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Boschetti back for another try

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 17th, 2010 at 7:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Defensive tackle Ryan Boschetti, a defensive tackle thought to have a good chance of making the Raiders roster last season only to be a training camp casualty on the final cut, has signed a contract, according to Raiders.com

Boschetti earned positive reviews from coach Tom Cable when he signed in April of last year. Boschetti played at UCLA when Cable was the Bruins’ offensive coordinator and the coach spoke in glowing terms of Boschetti’s ability to defend the run and play with necessary energy on the defensive line.

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261 Responses to “Boschetti back for another try”

  1. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    uno

  2. chappy23us Says:

    I can die a happy man! 1st

  3. chappy23us Says:

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  4. Lynn from Snot Says:

    There that should shut everybody up.

  5. vegas raider Says:

    Who needs Albert Haynesworth or John Henderson, lol

  6. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    we NEED T.O

  7. buckeyeraider Says:

    There you have it. All DT questions answered. Boschetti’s back.

  8. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    i just smoked my 1st brisket. F-ing tough as leather but tasty. i guess i need to smoke something else to make me not care and mow it down n e ways

  9. JustWinBaby Says:

    I rather have desmond bryant over fn henderson..he is a free agent for a reason..next..d bryant showed good promise and its only may. lets c what the young guy can do…i c the same posts everyday. sign henderson..trade for that slob haynesworthnothing.o wait ryan bo is back even better

  10. LoneRaider Says:

    Henderson is still a FA for the same reason no one has signed JaMarcus…..HE CAN’T PLAY ANYMORE..

  11. JustWinBaby Says:

    gracias LoneRaider my fellow fan

  12. priesttj Says:

    Some people can’t see the forest for the trees.

    In here everyday whinning and crying about the same thing a NT.

    SnB 1+1=2 2+2=4 if they wanted a fat slob NT they’d have one………….period

  13. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    i want a fat slob piece o a$$. fat hoes need d!ck too

  14. JustWinBaby Says:

    this fool hayneworth just said he feels decieved by the redskins…per pft

  15. buckeyeraider Says:

    ‘night fellas.

  16. vegas raider Says:

    Haynesworth wants to “rush the QB” he says.

    Nothing about staying in his lanes and occupying blockers, being stout against the run.

    Just “I want to get after the QB” and you are not paying me enough to occupy blockers since it is not what I want to do.

  17. priesttj Says:

    JWB,

    Haynesworth is not a NT he just isn’t. It takes a special type of animal to play NT. That’ why I keep preaching to these guy’s that converting to a 3/4 is not that easy. NT’s are hard to ind just because you weigh a certain thing doesn’t mean you can play that position. It takes a certain mentality one that you are willing to take a vicious beating all game long for the good o the team and get NO glory or it.

    Hanyesworth is a playmaking DT so are most DT’s and playing the point is sacrificial. It’s very difficult it’s also very difficult to playcall a 3/4 system. I think we have the talent to play it occasionally but to stay in it get’s your DT too muc wear and tear if he’s not use to it.

    Fans just cry for things without thinking it all the way through, they think it’s easy to go from one alignment to another but it’s very difficult and requires lots of discipline.

    Haynesworth is not wrong in his stance you have to know what type of player you are. He knows he can’t play that position over an extended period o time. He’s just being honest.

  18. JustWinBaby Says:

    This guy is nuts…He feels deveived before or after he got the 30 million this yr

  19. JustWinBaby Says:

    I understand that but coaches and schemes change. I feel him n a way on not being there because nothing is mandatory right now but tofeel deceived?

  20. vegas raider Says:

    Priest,

    I didn’t know players told teams what positions they want to play. What is this little league, just go run to the position you want to play?

    The Redskins signed Haynesworth to be an interior lineman. Parts of being an interior lineman are getting after the QB, parts of it are sucking up lineman.

    Seems he wants to do some parts of the job, but not all of it. They paid him to do all of it and he cashed the checks, so seems to me he has no leg to stand on here.

  21. JustWinBaby Says:

    But ur right he is a natural dt not nt

  22. priesttj Says:

    Vegas

    Why don’t we ask DMC to play B then and get ZMiller to play LT a 40 lbs. and become a lineman. Come on man if it’s within reason and the player is accommodating it’s goo for the team. If he’s not what’s the point?

  23. priesttj Says:

    Play DMC at FB

  24. vegas raider Says:

    Priest,

    To me, it is like a DB throwing a hissy because he doesn’t get to play zone, a RB getting mad because he is in to pass-protect for a play or something along those lines.

    You really think Washington is going to pay Haynesworth all that money to just absorb blockers 100% of the time? Of course not, but what did they get when he played the position he wanted? 4 sacks, less tackles than TK and a few missed games.

    If I was Washington I would tell him he wasn’t good enough at what he did last year, and his inconsistant play got him a new less glamorous job. Don’t like it, do better.

  25. priesttj Says:

    Vegas

    That’s their prorogative, Haynesworth has always been a heacase. You knew that when you signed him. The best thing they can do is get him a NT and let it rip IMO.

    Changing systems is not that simple. That’s why I keep telling guy’s like SnB asking or a NT in a 4/3 system defeats the entire purpose of the system. If you’re getting a NT then the next step is to switch t a 2gap 3/4 system to accommodate him.

  26. vegas raider Says:

    Priest,

    I will be the first to admit that X and O’s, and all the 2 gap, 5 technique and all that stuff is not my gig.

    So yes, in large part, Washington made it’s bed by signing him, and now they must lay in it.

    I just don’t want Albert here, and John Henderson only on the cheap. SnB wants miracles performed in one year, that just ain’t happening.

    Offseason is going 100% as planned for me in my head. Kept Cable but got him OC help. Drafted McClain and other line guys, got rid of Jamarcus, Fargas, Cornell, Kirk and Warren.

    What more can we ask for?

  27. priesttj Says:

    10-4

  28. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Vegas

    That’s their prorogative, Haynesworth has always been a heacase. You knew that when you signed him. The best thing they can do is get him a NT and let it rip IMO.

    Changing systems is not that simple. That’s why I keep telling guy’s like SnB asking or a NT in a 4/3 system defeats the entire purpose of the system. If you’re getting a NT then the next step is to switch t a 2gap 3/4 system to accommodate him.
    *********************************

    Shut up you idiot! How come Tom Cable the head coach answered who would be the NT? BHP you are a fukin idiot. Go to sleep old fuk

  29. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Priest,

    I will be the first to admit that X and O’s, and all the 2 gap, 5 technique and all that stuff is not my gig.

    So yes, in large part, Washington made it’s bed by signing him, and now they must lay in it.

    I just don’t want Albert here, and John Henderson only on the cheap. SnB wants miracles performed in one year, that just ain’t happening.

    Offseason is going 100% as planned for me in my head. Kept Cable but got him OC help. Drafted McClain and other line guys, got rid of Jamarcus, Fargas, Cornell, Kirk and Warren.

    What more can we ask for?
    *****************************

    Wait how come miracles cant happen? New Orleans is a miracle and we are the Raiders and are more deserving than the Saints.

    Hey VR….. BHP isnt an X’s and O’s guy either so dont feel bad. He doesnt know what the fuk he is talking about

  30. priesttj Says:

    grow man!!

  31. priesttj Says:

    grow up!!

  32. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP you are a fuking moron! The Left Defensive Tackle is what is called an Under Tackle who goes up against the RG and the Right Defensive Tackle is the Nose Tackle who goes against the LG and C.

    You talking only a NT is in the 3-4 defense shows how much you really know. shut up old man and take your old ass to bed. I’m sure the big Bingo tourney tired you out

  33. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    grow up!!
    ******************

    Better than growing to an old idiot

  34. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL BHP says we should switch to a 3-4 to accomodate someone like Haynesworth or Henderson hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Old fool put the bottle of gin down old man

  35. vegas raider Says:

    Hey VR….. BHP isnt an X’s and O’s guy either so dont feel bad. He doesnt know what the fuk he is talking about

    ***********************************

    I wouldn’t know if he was or not. Sounded about right.

  36. The Return of Godliness Says:

    He is WRONG VR…..very wrong!!

  37. vegas raider Says:

    Go get ‘em ROG, going to go burn and watch Law and Order.

    Pick you up on the flip side, the New Mexico flip-side.

  38. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    This is amazing. Have you guys heard this. P.O.D. rocks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFhmzRkUx0I&feature=related

  39. priesttj Says:

    THat isn’t a true NT in the true sense of the word. It’s just termed that way to differentiate between the 2 DT’s. The true sense of a NT is in a 3/4 system. It’s true they do want the LDT to tie up doubles but the term NT came from the 3/4 alignment. You can als play 2gap in a 4/3 alignment but it doesn’t make a lot sense. Still some teams have one it.

    There is no MLB in a 3/4 an there is no NT in a 4/3 it’s a contradiction in terms.

  40. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Go get ‘em ROG, going to go burn and watch Law and Order.

    Pick you up on the flip side, the New Mexico flip-side.
    *************************

    Law and Order is my schit too!!! I like SVU…You seen the episode about MR aka Gust372 and his Uncle Brad?

  41. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    This is better. Al Davis gets a shout out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8z_q5QUi4c&feature=related

  42. LoneRaider Says:

    Haynesworth is a crybaby son of a whatever-you-want-to-call-him but like Priest said he is not NT. I lived in Nashville when he was there and he can be a BEAST at DT when he wants to be. But to be a Please-beat-my-@ss-all-game-long NT takes a special breed and there are really only about 5-7 true all game long, good NTs in the NFL. It is more than being a 350lb fatboy. Skins best bet is to trade him because Albert will screw at a locker room when he is unhappy.

  43. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    THat isn’t a true NT in the true sense of the word. It’s just termed that way to differentiate between the 2 DT’s. The true sense of a NT is in a 3/4 system. It’s true they do want the LDT to tie up doubles but the term NT came from the 3/4 alignment. You can als play 2gap in a 4/3 alignment but it doesn’t make a lot sense. Still some teams have one it.

    There is no MLB in a 3/4 an there is no NT in a 4/3 it’s a contradiction in terms.
    ***********************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and you are the coach or is Tom Cable? Thank you….you haven been corrected…..now we are moving on

  44. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # LoneRaider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Haynesworth is a crybaby son of a whatever-you-want-to-call-him but like Priest said he is not NT. I lived in Nashville when he was there and he can be a BEAST at DT when he wants to be. But to be a Please-beat-my-@ss-all-game-long NT takes a special breed and there are really only about 5-7 true all game long, good NTs in the NFL. It is more than being a 350lb fatboy. Skins best bet is to trade him because Albert will screw at a locker room when he is unhappy.
    ***********************

    LOL you lived in Nashville……..says enough right there……….moving along

  45. The Return of Godliness Says:

    When Tom Cable was asked about Nose Tackle position did he say we dont have a Nose Tackle? Thanks…………..NEXT

  46. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    STFU Godliness! You don’t know sh*t.

  47. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Nose Tackles are Nose Tackles becuase they line up over the Nose of the ball……….meaning against the center!!! Come on BHP you old fart you starting to sound like an idiot like KoolKell

  48. JustWinBaby Says:

    lol 43

  49. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    STFU Godliness! You don’t know sh*t.
    ***********************

    you are a chargerr fan………..only thing you know is not winning superbowls and choking………..NEXT

  50. The Return of Godliness Says:

    No wonder the symbol of San Diego is that ridiculous chicken….bock bock!

  51. The Return of Godliness Says:

    San Diego as a city will always be beaneath my area when it comes to sports. Clippers left, Padres sucks and Chargers are losers………NEXT!

  52. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    FU Douchebag! Good night y’all

  53. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    FU Douchebag! Good night y’all
    ***********************

    Checkmate! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

  54. MistaBrown Says:

    ***Post of the Year***
    _____________________________________________

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    May 16th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 16th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Attorney Gen Eric Holder admits to not reading the 10 page Arizona immigration bill before he criticized it. Taking his cue from Dictator purple lips 0bama not having the facts before speaking..

    hope & change
    **************************

    LOL Mistabrown rules!!!

  55. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Chumped Out has nada for me……SD is a city where the men are soft and high off shrooms and get their women snatched…..even at sporting events NO BS! They not use to real men. In SD they got 2 choices a dummy in the armed forces or a gang banger….no in betweens there….its very easy….you outta try it sometime lol

  56. MistaBrown Says:

    The pot calling the kettle black.
    _____

    priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Some people can’t see the forest for the trees.

  57. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    ***Post of the Year***
    _____________________________________________

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    May 16th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 16th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Attorney Gen Eric Holder admits to not reading the 10 page Arizona immigration bill before he criticized it. Taking his cue from Dictator purple lips 0bama not having the facts before speaking..

    hope & change
    **************************

    LOL Mistabrown rules!!!
    ******************************

    Haha Mista……you should have heard BHP in here man saying there isnt a NT inthe 4-3 lol….he knows about gap assignments apparently…just like he knew in two years Russell would lead us to the Super Bowl lol. now Russell will only lead someone to a big bowl of Honey Comb cereal!

  58. JustWinBaby Says:

    LOl. Is there no charger blogs?

  59. MistaBrown Says:

    I see tj is still getting suckers or (suckas) to debate him on tackle football.

    I see tj is still calling people blind, dumb, morons, and whiners.

    I see tj is STILL tj.

  60. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, you are the undisputed village idiot!

    Did you know this ?

  61. MistaBrown Says:

    Godliness,
    I wasnt going to say anything but..

    In a 4/3 you have 2 interior lineman and 2 ends so a nose tackle isn’t in the picture technically speaking. You could argue the 2 interior guys are BOTH nose tackles!

    On another note Cable knew the question directed at him and dint correct the guy.

  62. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # JustWinBaby Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    LOl. Is there no charger blogs?
    ************************

    Home Shopping Network is their blog lol

  63. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, we dont have 1 nose tackle we have 2.

    na na na na na we’re right & you are wrong!

    :D

  64. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    I see tj is still getting suckers or (suckas) to debate him on tackle football.

    I see tj is still calling people blind, dumb, morons, and whiners.

    I see tj is STILL tj.
    ***********************

    so easy man a caveman can do it

  65. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Godliness,
    I wasnt going to say anything but..

    In a 4/3 you have 2 interior lineman and 2 ends so a nose tackle isn’t in the picture technically speaking. You could argue the 2 interior guys are BOTH nose tackles!

    On another note Cable knew the question directed at him and dint correct the guy.
    *******************
    Exactly it just shows how dumb BHP is

  66. MistaBrown Says:

    tj’s little baby nuts shrivel up when I come in here
    :D

  67. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL just like MR’s when I come thru…its funny aint it to have a blog punching bag…..well I got multiple ones but fun nonetheless

  68. The Return of Godliness Says:

    I wonder what Seymour will say about Boschetti another HIGH motor guy lol

  69. MistaBrown Says:

    Seymour will be here within minutes to rescue his good ole buddy tj.

    Funny how OakGlen was always to the rescue for tj and then when OakGlen disappeared Seymour stepped right up to the plate! Didn’t even miss a beat..

    lol

  70. Try Some Reality Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Some people can’t see the forest for the trees.
    ============================================
    Look who’s talking! According to you, the Raiders cut the best QB on the team. Get real…

  71. Try Some Reality Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Seymour will be here within minutes to rescue his good ole buddy tj.
    ============================================
    Expect Jhill any minute too. He came in here the other day when I was roasting BHP and defended him by saying “hey, he was right all along. He was just saying that Grads wasn’t the answer!” LOL…

  72. MistaBrown Says:

    Just on the team?

    Actually I think tj said JaMeatloaf had the skills to be the NFL’s best Qb in decades! Talent like we’ve NEVER seen before..

    Of course tj has SO much inside info he didn’t see this release coming a mile away!
    :D

  73. MistaBrown Says:

    Yah I saw Jhill with a mouth full of goo the other night, he needed a bib!

    Nothing new tho, he gets a thrill up and down his leg when he hears tj call into 1050am.

  74. The Return of Godliness Says:

    LOL but Jhill is cool and I like Seymour too…but Mista and Sey got a long thing going on and i dont get into it at all….but still funny the last 5 posts

  75. Try Some Reality Says:

    I’m sure he did. Russell probably had to call him to ask him to take it easy, as his nuts were getting sore from BHP swinging. That whole inside source crap is some funny azz sh1t. He cracks me up with that.

  76. MistaBrown Says:

    I dont even blame tj for his lunacy. The people who try and debate him give him opportunity to say things like “Some people can’t see the forest for the trees.” I learned a long time ago not to talk to tj but to talk at him like the stooge that he is.

    The end.
    :D

  77. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BHP is an idiot and wouldnt show up for hella long when we traded for JC

  78. Try Some Reality Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    May 16th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    Jhill

    I see these guy’s are still beggin’ for a NT in a 4/3 1gap system. They just don’t understand the system and they watched it all year last year.

    Well there’s always the actual coaches who make these decisions, because if we left it up to the fans we’d be in trouble.
    ===============================================

    Do you EVER tire of having egg on your face? LOL. Sh1t, man! You ever stop to read your BS?

    “Well there’s always the actual coaches who make these decisions, because if we left it up to the fans we’d be in trouble.”

    LMAO!! Yes, all of us as fans are absolutely thrilled that coaches are there to make the decisions and not fans like you. If you actually had the influence you claim to have, the Fat Porker might still be heaving balls at people’s feet!

  79. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    russell as a tight end lol

  80. Try Some Reality Says:

    The Return Of Godliness Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    BHP is an idiot and wouldnt show up for hella long when we traded for JC
    ================================================

    He was busy hitting up all the bars. Poor schmuck.

  81. MistaBrown Says:

    LMAO @

    the Fat Porker might still be heaving balls at people’s feet!

  82. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mistabrown is hilarious…..too bad liberals will censor you soon!!

  83. The Return of Godliness Says:

    No one wants Russell…career over

  84. MistaBrown Says:

    Let them try!

  85. Einstein Says:

    Stool Kell gets banned, and we haven’t see MR either, is that just a coincidence?

  86. Try Some Reality Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    May 13th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Tom Cable is very careful to get the kind of players he wants to coach. If you can’t see that you’re not paying attention. He gets rid of everyone he feels will be a problem for him.

    ==================================================

    You mean like you couldn’t see that Russell’s days were numbered when Cable said he didn’t want any “knuckleheads”? Thanks tj, but we already knew you weren’t paying attention.

  87. Einstein Says:

    Mobile Alabama wants him as King Elexis. Can’t say nobdy B.

  88. MistaBrown Says:

    Oh wow! Didn’t even consider that!

    You are Einstein..
    _____

    # Einstein Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Stool Kell gets banned, and we haven’t see MR either, is that just a coincidence?

  89. Try Some Reality Says:

    MR steps in from time to time. He just seems so lost lately, though. He doesn’t have his racist bigot friend to pal around with anymore.

  90. MistaBrown Says:

    MR steps in poop from time to time?

  91. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    nothing worth talking about all these scrub as s DT

  92. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, you still here? Just reading eh?

    lol

  93. Try Some Reality Says:

    Priesttj Says: 
March 24th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Anyone who says they wouldn’t give a 1st rnd pick to get a player of McNabbs calibre just doesn’t understand this sport. Start watching knitting it’s more your speed.

    That kind of talent is rare and very di9fficult to come by, that’s what Russell should apire to become. A few years with DMc and then the rest with Russell and it changes EVERYTHING………….period
    =================================================

    This one’s still my all time favorite, tj. You called out your hero, Al Davis, as someone that should be knitting. McNabb was right there, wasn’t he? Could have had that overrated poser for a 1st rounder. But nooooooo…..

  94. MistaBrown Says:

    McNabb gets clowned by Rush Limbaugh, TO, and Desean Jackson.

    :D

  95. Try Some Reality Says:

    lol…..tj’s waiting for jhill or seymour/Oakglen/Raider Debo

  96. MistaBrown Says:

    tj……fyi

    In a 4/3 scheme we are using 2 nose tackles!
    :)

  97. Einstein Says:

    Just glad both of them are gone. Makes this blog soooo much better.

  98. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    i guess we dont want big name players anymore

  99. MistaBrown Says:

    If we dont get some OTA news soon Im gonna start ripping Barback purple lips 0bama!

    Jerry you there?

  100. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Einstein Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Mobile Alabama wants him as King Elexis. Can’t say nobdy B.
    ******************

    I stand corrected

  101. Try Some Reality Says:

    Einstein Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Just glad both of them are gone. Makes this blog soooo much better.
    ===============================================

    Sh1t yeah, you can say that again!

  102. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Priesttj Says: 
March 24th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Anyone who says they wouldn’t give a 1st rnd pick to get a player of McNabbs calibre just doesn’t understand this sport. Start watching knitting it’s more your speed.

    That kind of talent is rare and very di9fficult to come by, that’s what Russell should apire to become. A few years with DMc and then the rest with Russell and it changes EVERYTHING………….period
    =================================================

    This one’s still my all time favorite, tj. You called out your hero, Al Davis, as someone that should be knitting. McNabb was right there, wasn’t he? Could have had that overrated poser for a 1st rounder. But nooooooo…..
    *************************

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  103. MistaBrown Says:

    big one 83
    We need to create our own big name players. Thats when we are a force again! L Murphy shows signs of that kinda swag. I hope McClain develops into that!

  104. The Return of Godliness Says:

    I actually liked when PEDOchet was on here….Kell ran him out of here lol

  105. Try Some Reality Says:

    So what’s Russell gonna do with his self-praising self-idolizing diamond statue of himself in a Raider #2 jersey, I wonder? Probably find it in an Alabama pawn shop in a few short years, I’m guessing.

  106. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    big one 83
    We need to create our own big name players. Thats when we are a force again! L Murphy shows signs of that kinda swag. I hope McClain develops into that!
    *****************************

    Agreed

  107. MistaBrown Says:

    Kell ran out Richo ? I think he got banned. Kell can barely run poop out his keester!

  108. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    So what’s Russell gonna do with his self-praising self-idolizing diamond statue of himself in a Raider #2 jersey, I wonder? Probably find it in an Alabama pawn shop in a few short years, I’m guessing.
    ********************************

    Few short years? You mean months?

  109. Try Some Reality Says:

    Kell couldn’t run a 2-year old out of here. All he does is post race-baiting bullsh1t and the Raiders record over the last 7 years.

  110. MistaBrown Says:

    We need a bad a$$ on our O-line. I miss WIZ knockin people off piles, throwin forearms around! I miss you WIZ! We need some SWAG on our O-line and I don’t see it.

  111. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Kell ran out Richo ? I think he got banned. Kell can barely run poop out his keester!
    ********************

    PEDOchet was a certified moron who lied big time about many things lol

  112. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Kell couldn’t run a 2-year old out of here. All he does is post race-baiting bullsh1t and the Raiders record over the last 7 years.
    **********************

    Nothing was better than when he said we were jealous because he was rich with a white wife lol

  113. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    We need a bad a$$ on our O-line. I miss WIZ knockin people off piles, throwin forearms around! I miss you WIZ! We need some SWAG on our O-line and I don’t see it.
    *************************

    Yeah our line as of right now is SVELTE

  114. Kirk Says:

    Damn you, MistaBrown.

    I have sore ribs and you made me laugh!

  115. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Also we were all mad becuz we dont wanna support a black qb lol…….I hated Russell and I’m black so his claims just dont fit eh?

  116. Try Some Reality Says:

    Couldn’t agree more on Wiz. Mcquistan was supposed to be that guy with a mean streak. We saw how well that panned out. I’m hoping Campbell will come out p1ssed and looking to take off some heads. He sounded bothered by the fact that he lasted so long.

  117. MistaBrown Says:

    I dont know what Richo lied about but I think SeymourGlenDebo has the market cornered on lying.

    You can post Seymour’s lies right to his face and he would still deny it! He’s a slippery little Kunt if your not careful!

  118. MistaBrown Says:

    Kirk which post got your funny bone ?

  119. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Kell ran out Richo ? I think he got banned. Kell can barely run poop out his keester!
    ***************************

    So you saying his sphincter’s shutter speed doesnt even matter?

  120. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    I dont know what Richo lied about but I think SeymourGlenDebo has the market cornered on lying.

    You can post Seymour’s lies right to his face and he would still deny it! He’s a slippery little Kunt if your not careful!
    ***************************

    He pretty much denied Debartolo’s being connected to organized crime….Al Davis not helpnig the sale of 49ers also not recommending Joe Thomas and also Bill Walsh later on….also said at John Vella’s store they just dont sell Raiders jerseys that they sell all 32 teams jerseys lol…..list goes on

  121. Try Some Reality Says:

    The Return Of Godliness Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Kell couldn’t run a 2-year old out of here. All he does is post race-baiting bullsh1t and the Raiders record over the last 7 years.
    **********************

    Nothing was better than when he said we were jealous because he was rich with a white wife lol

    ===============================================

    LOL! What a f’n moron. He said some pretty racist sh1t. Didn’t he post pics of his wife to prove that he wasn’t racist? LMAO! Crazy old goon. And going to Europe was supposed to impress. Heck, I’ve been to Europe. So what? I’m not gonna dog on those that haven’t been. It may not be something that others want to do. F’n moron!

  122. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, will you quit fighting it and post something stupid before I call it a night?

    pretty please

  123. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    The Return Of Godliness Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Kell couldn’t run a 2-year old out of here. All he does is post race-baiting bullsh1t and the Raiders record over the last 7 years.
    **********************

    Nothing was better than when he said we were jealous because he was rich with a white wife lol

    ===============================================

    LOL! What a f’n moron. He said some pretty racist sh1t. Didn’t he post pics of his wife to prove that he wasn’t racist? LMAO! Crazy old goon. And going to Europe was supposed to impress. Heck, I’ve been to Europe. So what? I’m not gonna dog on those that haven’t been. It may not be something that others want to do. F’n moron!
    **************************

    The viagra prescriptions had a reverse affect and his wife snoops around downtown Oakland looking for a young stud like me and shyt on the weekends lol

  124. MistaBrown Says:

    KKKell said the recession was over 6 months ago!

    Helloooooooooooooooooooo

  125. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    He was a Black Panther? Married to a white woman?

    lmao
    *************************

    Actually co founder Bobby Seale married a white lady…….BLACK POWER!

  126. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    KKKell said the recession was over 6 months ago!

    Helloooooooooooooooooooo
    ******************************

    BWAHAHAHAHA that was funny

  127. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    tj, will you quit fighting it and post something stupid before I call it a night?

    pretty please
    **********************

    HAHAHAHA you gotta love it

  128. MistaBrown Says:

    I thought Panthers hated white people..

  129. MistaBrown Says:

    I bet KKKell has a George Foreman grill in every room of his apartment, even the bathroom.

  130. MistaBrown Says:

    I can see KKKell inhis bathroom taking a burning dump while flippin a burger on his G Foreman grill with a portable TV watching Sanford & Son reruns on his beta max.

    Good gawd!
    The FK’n end.

  131. MistaBrown Says:

    lol @ real pole

  132. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista ouch dont get on Papa that hard!!!

  133. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    I can see KKKell inhis bathroom taking a burning dump while flippin a burger on his G Foreman grill with a portable TV watching Sanford & Son reruns on his beta max.

    Good gawd!
    The FK’n end.
    ****************************

    His wife says ” Kell you big dummy”

  134. MistaBrown Says:

    Well..

    You see his eyebrows are waxed?

    WTF!

  135. Try Some Reality Says:

    That’s wrong. But I admit that I laughed. Greg Papa is a cool dude. He’s on the payroll but he doesn’t seem to lay on the propaganda as thick as the other guys like George “marble mouth” Atkinson

  136. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Well..

    You see his eyebrows are waxed?

    WTF!
    *************************

    TV got him fuked up…..thats all i can say as long as he says TOUCHDOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN RAIDERS!!! I’m cool

  137. Try Some Reality Says:

    LMAO @ #144……so true

  138. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Hey Im ok with Papa what people do behind closed doors is their business but if your going to wax your eyebrows expect people to mention it at the water cooler & the blog.
    **************************

    Aw gosh damn Mista you are one rough guy….liberals might say you are a homophobe

  139. MistaBrown Says:

    Does Atkinson tie his own shoes or does tj do that for him?

  140. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Seriously George is dumb drunk all the time…his facial expressions are one of the guys who go to Ricky’s Saturday nite before the game

  141. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Does Atkinson tie his own shoes or does tj do that for him?
    ***********************

    He is old school….he wears the loafers with no socks

  142. MistaBrown Says:

    If the guy is waxing his eyebrows imagine whats going on other places.

    Enough said…

  143. Try Some Reality Says:

    And that explains all the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. Seriously…me and my homies have driven back from home games listening to his BS spin on a f’d up game where we lost and we inevitably turn to each other and say “WTF did he just say?” LOL…He sometimes mumbles himself right out of his own argument and ends up way the f’k in left field.

  144. MistaBrown Says:

    So is Barback purple lips 0bama going to stop spending money we dont have?

    Will Joe Biden get an MRI on his skull to see whats rattling around up there?

    Can Nancy Pelosi squeeze out 1 more face lift?

    Will the Attorney Gen start reading laws before commenting on them?

    Jerry, are you awake? New thread!

  145. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    If the guy is waxing his eyebrows imagine whats going on other places.

    Enough said…
    ************************

    He does announce for Giants right? lol

  146. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    And that explains all the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. Seriously…me and my homies have driven back from home games listening to his BS spin on a f’d up game where we lost and we inevitably turn to each other and say “WTF did he just say?” LOL…He sometimes mumbles himself right out of his own argument and ends up way the f’k in left field.
    ***************************

    Those Tequila shots got George fuked up…he also hit the chiba

  147. MistaBrown Says:

    I have no idea who announces for the Giants!
    Are they still in SF ?

  148. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    So is Barback purple lips 0bama going to stop spending money we dont have?

    Will Joe Biden get an MRI on his skull to see whats rattling around up there?

    Can Nancy Pelosi squeeze out 1 more face lift?

    Will the Attorney Gen start reading laws before commenting on them?

    Jerry, are you awake? New thread!
    ***************************************

    No

    No

    No

    No

    Are you serious?

  149. Try Some Reality Says:

    Well…you fellas have a good one. I’m out.

  150. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    I have no idea who announces for the Giants!
    Are they still in SF ?
    **************************

    Well Papa was doing it………….dont know whats up with him now…TV got him maybe all weird lol

  151. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Mista just lay off of obama he is god and change has come okay…a “black” man is in the office and if racists like you dont like it then oh well….this is america okay….we are changing and if it socialism and we get our money stolen then so be it

  152. MistaBrown Says:

    I didn’t get that memo.

  153. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Cuz ur a racist is all

  154. Gust372 Says:

    I see return of drunkenness aka br ian finally stopped the crazy talk about “OG Raider fans” confronting Ice Cube when he comes to Oakland. The way I made fun of him every time he brought it up is kind of like an electrical dog collar. He knows better now.

  155. Gust372 Says:

    # Einstein Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Mobile Alabama wants him as King Elexis. Can’t say nobdy B.

    …………….

    Guess what NFL owner wanted him with the number one overall draft pick just 3 years ago?

  156. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    There is a reason why Russell doesn’t have a job yet.
    On the other hand there are two reasons why TO doesn’t have a job yet-age and attitude.

    Jerry, you think we should stay away from Merriman and go after TO?
    I don’t know that we want either one but you’ve probably got that reversed.
    Even last year Cable said that the biggest problem on the team-and one that’s been holding us back for some time-was the it’s-all-about-me attitude on the team.
    The Raiders, thanks to Cable pushing, are doing something about that, why bring in a cancer like TO?
    His train already left the station.

  157. Jerry McD: Boschetti back for another try - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

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  158. NFL News and Notes – May 18, 2010 | The Other 31 Says:

    [...] agent defensive tackle Ryan Boschetti has re-signed with the Oakland [...]

  159. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Enough with all this Cable bs , let him have a winning season then I’ll praise him turning around the culture no more Japrecious to blame for losses.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wow the Suns look amazing HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  160. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Hey NMF! Haha…Suns got spanked last night!
    We’ll see what happens…

  161. NoMoreFargas Says:

    It’s official I hate SD 7 in a row for Padres and how many for dumb Chargers sicking .

  162. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Kobe> Entire Suns Franchise

  163. jhill Says:

    Raiders on the field today …

    Outstanding!

  164. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    NoMoreFargas Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 5:48 am
    Kobe> Entire Suns Franchise

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Paging Mr. Rockstar…

  165. Kirk Says:

    Kobe = Rapist

  166. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Bosch who back? You call that an update?

    It must be the off off season. Who gives a rats @$$?

  167. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Man like Kobe’s personality or not. If you don’t think that guy is good than you really don’t know anything about basketball or you are foolish. When Kobe gets hot on the court he can scorch the sun (yes! pun inteneded). : )

  168. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I thought the days of MR switching names were over. So many embarassing traumas in the past… Anyways, Al’s good draft must have caused a relapse because MR has now become Gust372. For laughs check out posts 154 & 155 – who does he think he is fooling?

  169. hwnrdr Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 6:22 am
    Man like Kobe’s personality or not. If you don’t think that guy is good than you really don’t know anything about basketball or you are foolish. When Kobe gets hot on the court he can scorch the sun (yes! pun inteneded). : )

    Love him or hate him…he is still, in my opinion…the best player out there! Could they win another title? The way they played last night…Yes! But it still remains to be seen!

  170. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    From TJ Simers’ Lakers article:

    “By the way, I believe that’s Chargers Coach Norv Turner and one of the Goofs who owns the team sitting at courtside.

    Wonder if they were up here earlier to take a look at Tim Leiweke’s stadium site, a good bet where the Chargers will be playing in a few years.”

    LMAO!

  171. hwnrdr Says:

    Now that’s funny!

  172. Raider O Says:

    King James > princess Kobe!

  173. hwnrdr Says:

    Ummm…O…not yet! James is still young, though!

  174. Raider O Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    C’mon Man! James is a Freak.

  175. hwnrdr Says:

    Yes…but…not there yet!
    Where do you think he’ll go next year?

  176. Raider O Says:

    I’m hoping he stays in Ohio, but I think he may go to NY.

  177. Raider O Says:

    Can you franchise a player in BBall? What can we do to keep James in the Great State of Ohio.

  178. hwnrdr Says:

    That’s what I heard…but I think Cleveland is going to put up a fight to keep him, though!

  179. Raider O Says:

    Where is RR?

    Good Morning Preppie.

  180. hwnrdr Says:

    OK…back to Raider footbal…

    If any high profile vets are to come to the Raiders, who do you think it will be?
    Merrimen, TO, whoever…?

  181. Raider O Says:

    1- DT J Hendersn: maybe, he is 31, and has a few more years.
    2- WR TO: just say no to TO!
    Merriman: he is not an OLB in a 4-3 scheme, he plays End. I don’t one if he can get double digit sacks without the roids.

  182. Raider O Says:

    I don’t know*

  183. vegas raider Says:

    Alright folks this is the official outro for your buddy Vegas Raider. Next time you see me, it will be with a different handle.

    The Vegas Raider book has now officialy closed. I hope it was a good read.

    Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  184. Raider O Says:

    I have a final today at 4, so I have to study. Later Gents, and wish me luck. I will need it for this one!

  185. 4evaRaider Says:

    What you talking about Vegas?

  186. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Adios “Vegas”…

  187. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Mornin’ Y’all!!

    Will be tough to adjust to Vegas with a new moniker. Buess he wants to get one before MR uses up every combination of vowels, consonants and numbers and there are none left!!!!!!

    Best of luck on your final O!!!

  188. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    That was…..”Guess he wants…..”

  189. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Vegas you have to stay and keep the same handle, it is a household Raider name.
    ——————————————–
    vegas raider Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 7:29 am
    Alright folks this is the official outro for your buddy Vegas Raider. Next time you see me, it will be with a different handle.

    The Vegas Raider book has now officialy closed. I hope it was a good read.

    Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  190. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oh I get it now Vegas!

    something like new mexraider?

  191. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Boschetti = training camp fodder to push other DT’S….or actually has a chance to make the team?

  192. 4evaRaider Says:

    TaosRaider?

  193. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Boschetti will not push anything but the door to exit as soon as camp is over.

    Keep the retreds away!

  194. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    4eva:

    Did Vegas actually move?

    Or maybe cashed in some of his chips and bought a country place???

  195. 4evaRaider Says:

    IDK,SFYF….

    vegas stated a couple months ago he has family there.

    but he prolly did cash-out and buy a spread!

  196. hwnrdr Says:

    4Eva…what’s up buddy?
    Vegas…gonna miss the name!

  197. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Got it, CJ!

    Just wonder about the wisdom of camp fodder. Does it really help push others….or….does it cause “keepers” to get fewer snaps in camps as they might get otherwise?

  198. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas will be wrestling dem doggies!

  199. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Hwnrdr!

    just keeping my nose above the flood waters,so 2 speak and it will be different without the Vegas handle in here.But vegas will come up with a good handle anyway,imo

  200. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    CAnnot wait to tease him about leaving the sheep alone!

  201. hellsbells Says:

    Bleacher report sending e-mails that we just sign T.O.
    What do you guy think?

  202. 4evaRaider Says:

    lol!

  203. 4evaRaider Says:

    NO 2 TO!

  204. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    B.S.

  205. hwnrdr Says:

    Ummm…bleacher report? LOL

  206. 4evaRaider Says:

    Just cheacked-in 2 say I’m very happy we cut jaskittle!

    never in all my life did I see such a not-give-a-sh!t attitude.Like just who did he think he is/was?

    oh well no-matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i hope the proverbial door DID hit him on the way out!

    GREAT JOB Big Al…..everyone reads you loud and clear

  207. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for T.O.!

  208. 4evaRaider Says:

    Have a MOST ENJOYABLE Day Nation!

  209. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Now Andre Johnson is a no-show at Tesans OTA’S….wants a new contract.

    What do you guys think about players doing this?

    My feeling is that, if you sign a contract in good faith you honor it and play FOR THE TEAM (which includes teammates). The team cannot re-structure (lower) for lack of production…so why should a player demand more money early because he had a better season than HE thought he would be when he signed???!!!

  210. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I hate agreeing with ESPN but this would be one FA pick up I think we should sign to a 1 yr deal. I hate his attitude at times but he does come to play and we need a veteran WR in the worse way. He is not the TO of old but he can move the chains when he is in rythm. Our WRs get hurt way to much and are to inconsistant to count on this year.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5194336

  211. 4evaRaider Says:

    1 more!!!!

    Andre Johnson was thee man at Miami….

    Andre Johnson IS thee man in the NFL!

    Go get him Big Al…..

    WOW THIS WOULD BE TONY THE TIGER GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  212. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    NOt to mention TOs cross routes could help free up Zach Miller and this guy needs help in the worse way.

  213. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 8:02 am
    1 more!!!!
    LMAO! He will be a Texan next year. Ain’t no way they let him get away. Best WR in the league.

    —————————————————-
    Andre Johnson was thee man at Miami….

    Andre Johnson IS thee man in the NFL!

    Go get him Big Al…..

    WOW THIS WOULD BE TONY THE TIGER GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  214. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Wow, 4eva!

    I never even considered that. So many guys have recently demanded new contracts and held out of training until they got them…..I just figured this was another.

    Do you REALLY think Texans would let him go ???!!!

  215. 4evaRaider Says:

    No :(

  216. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Common practice in the NFL today.

    Teams cut players all the time before their contracts are up.
    ——————————————
    SinceFrankYouellField Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 7:59 am
    Now Andre Johnson is a no-show at Tesans OTA’S….wants a new contract.

    What do you guys think about players doing this?

    My feeling is that, if you sign a contract in good faith you honor it and play FOR THE TEAM (which includes teammates). The team cannot re-structure (lower) for lack of production…so why should a player demand more money early because he had a better season than HE thought he would be when he signed???!!!

  217. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Ya lit the fire….then blew it out !!!!

  218. M Lonetree Says:

    Well, well, well. Boschetti re-joins the Silver and Black just as Baby Howie Cooper has, but this time it is during the brand new Daniel Loper Era!

    I smell a Super Bowl what with the addition of Travis Goethel as well.

  219. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ok…. just had 2 comment on the great A.Johnson

    1 can dream,right?

    8)

  220. SacRaider Says:

    SinceFrankYouellField Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 7:59 am
    Now Andre Johnson is a no-show at Tesans OTA’S….wants a new contract.

    What do you guys think about players doing this?

    My feeling is that, if you sign a contract in good faith you honor it and play FOR THE TEAM (which includes teammates). The team cannot re-structure (lower) for lack of production…so why should a player demand more money early because he had a better season than HE thought he would be when he signed???!!!
    ————————

    I disagree with this completely. Teams do not honor contracts if the player isn’t living up to it. The raiders just released russell. Are you saying that since the team signed him to the 6 year deal, they should have honored it and kept paying him?

    Look at Chris Johnson on the Titans. He led the NFL in rushing last year and he is scheduled to make less than the 3rd team rb on that team. His only leverage is to hold out for a better deal because he’s earned it..

  221. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Good point, CJ.

    Guess I was too focused on contracts not being built to account for both production and lack thereof. There are often fiscal “incentives” built in….but not penalties.

  222. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    As a matter of fact Stars seemed to hold out more in the late 80s and 90s.

    Barry Sanders
    Emmit Smith

    just to name a couple hall of fame guys.

  223. Seymour Bush Says:

    OTA’s start today.

  224. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    No, you’re right Sac.

    But I do think there should be a base……with both incentives and reductions based on performance.

    Just seems like, so often, guys get their money and then cruise….

  225. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    My feeling is that, if you sign a contract in good faith you honor it and play FOR THE TEAM (which includes teammates). The team cannot re-structure (lower) for lack of production…so why should a player demand more money early because he had a better season than HE thought he would be when he signed???!!!

    they wont lower your contract but they sure will cut your as s

  226. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Guess the whole JaMarcus thing still has my goat.

    Makes me sick to think a dumb kid can take that kind of money…then just laugh at those who trusted in him enough to agree to pay it…with him having to do virtually nothing to earn the money. 5.6 million per win….over 100,000 per completion.

    How can that not make Raiders fans sick?

    The ought to be some accountability built in. Hopefully, this all gets fixed next year without a strike!

  227. SacRaider Says:

    SinceFrankYouellField Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 8:18 am
    No, you’re right Sac.

    But I do think there should be a base……with both incentives and reductions based on performance.

    Just seems like, so often, guys get their money and then cruise….
    ———————————-

    Yeah, i really think the contract structure in the nfl needs some re-tooling.. Like sign players for a shorter time but give the team more options with franchise tags or option years. like sign a rookie to a 2 year deal, and then give the team an option to pick up another 2 or 3 years at an average of the top 5 players at that position. That way, the rookie comes in and works hard to develope the first 2 (or 3) years and then gets a payday for the final 2 years before he can hit free agency and get another pay day. that way the team hasn’t committed big money to an unproven player, and the player can still earn good money in year 3.

  228. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    WR on the trading block patrick crayton

  229. M Lonetree Says:

    It is understandable for players to seek to use their leverage for more cash when they produce as have Andre and CJ28 as they know two things full well; 1) NFL careers are truly not for long – especially in the case of RBs; 2) NFL owners are going to make money hand over fist regardless of what players are in da house because of the guaranteed TV revenues.

    that said, CJ28 is underpaid by his professional standards but Andre Johnson already makes a king’s ransom for a few hours work on Sundays. Two wholly different scenarios in their hold-outs.

  230. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    I like your plan, Sac!

    Email it to the Commish!!!

  231. SacRaider Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 8:25 am

    that said, CJ28 is underpaid by his professional standards but Andre Johnson already makes a king’s ransom for a few hours work on Sundays. Two wholly different scenarios in their hold-outs.
    ———————

    I agree with your premise, but i don’t agree that football players only work for a few hours on sundays. Andre Johnson didn’t get to be where he is at today by only putting in a few hours work on sundays.. Thats why russell is where hes at..

  232. ian Says:

    Pretty good interview on KNBR w/Cable a few minutes ago. Probably up on their website soon.

    http://www.knbr.com/OnKNBR680/MurphandMac/tabid/584/Default.aspx

  233. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    if they try for johnson it will be something rediclous number or alot of players have to go

  234. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Uh, by the way, SacRaider…..when I call you “Sac” it is just an abbreviation….not an intended insult!

    Methinks I will dispense with the laziness and use your full moniker in the future.

  235. SacRaider Says:

    Everybody calls me Sac.. No biggie.. Now if it was sack (with the k) then i might take it differently.. :)

  236. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    83:

    Maybe not. Raiders don’t have an exhorbitant amount of money invested in only one WR’S. Only relatively large amount is DHB’S…..

  237. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Whew! Good. Still friends!

  238. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    that said, CJ28 is underpaid by his professional standards but Andre Johnson already makes a king’s ransom for a few hours work on Sundays. Two wholly different scenarios in their hold-outs.

    johnson isnt even a top 5 WR paid in the league but he plays hard all the time

  239. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    Maybe not. Raiders don’t have an exhorbitant amount of money invested in only one WR’S. Only relatively large amount is DHB’S…..

    if he takes a pay cut then this will probly work

  240. M Lonetree Says:

    SacRaider,

    what players do during their off-seasons are their own individual choices.
    they are paid weekly game checks for their work on Sundays.
    which actually amounts to only a few minutes of realtime work.
    essentially, Andre Johnson could train 7 hours/day during the off-season or he could smoke weed and chow on glazed doughnuts all day.
    whatever he chooses as long as he produces on Sundays.

  241. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    or he could smoke weed and chow on glazed doughnuts all day.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Trade DMAC for Norco Bob!

  242. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    who thinks crayton would be a good fit as a vetran WR

  243. SacRaider Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    SacRaider,

    what players do during their off-seasons are their own individual choices.
    they are paid weekly game checks for their work on Sundays.
    which actually amounts to only a few minutes of realtime work.
    essentially, Andre Johnson could train 7 hours/day during the off-season or he could smoke weed and chow on glazed doughnuts all day.
    whatever he chooses as long as he produces on Sundays.
    ——————

    But a lot of teams also build workout bonuses into contracts so that players will work out with the teams. I do know that they get game checks and i understand your argument. My argument is just that a football player works a lot more that just a few hours on sundays if he wants to be the best.

  244. M Lonetree Says:

    BoSJack,

    did you catch that NewYorkDailyNews article about drugs in the NFL? I posted a link a couple of days ago.

    A current NFLer, writing anonymously, related that only once in either May or June are players tested by the league for “street drugs”. The player wrote that the training staff will give ‘em a heads up when the time is coming.

    Otherwise players are only tested by the league for PEDs.

    They can smoke and snort and shoot all season long if they want to and the league doesn’t care.

  245. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    have we ever made a deal with the texans since they came out

  246. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Lonetree,

    Are the penalties for weed the same as a PED? Looking back at the Ricky Williams saga, it appears so. Why would the NFL test them in the dog days of offseason? They want them cleaning up for camps?

  247. M Lonetree Says:

    BoSJack,

    in Williams case it was because was caught in the inital test and then more testing was mandated.

    the player writing the article said that everyone knows they just have to be clean that one time in May/June and that the players regard anyone who tests positive during that time is an “idiot”.

  248. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    the_big_one_of_83 Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 9:00 am
    have we ever made a deal with the texans since they came out
    ////////////////////////

    i believe we traded philip buchanan to them.

  249. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  250. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    for what in return i thought he was a free agent

  251. DMAC Says:

    2nd and 3rd round picks I think

  252. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    if we give the texans JLH and watkins nd next 2 third RD picks 2011 2012

  253. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i think it was for a 2nd round draft pick

  254. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    now who is down for that

  255. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    we need a vet WR

  256. M Lonetree Says:

    People here write of JLH, DHB, Chaz and Murphy but seldom is anything written considering Jacoby Ford at wideout.
    As well as a kick returner, in the slot the kid could be everything that Nicky “Shin Splints” hasn’t been.

  257. DMAC Says:

    kid could be everything that Nicky “I’ll be erady week 16” hasn’t been.

  258. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    ford could be good but not a sure fit like nicky but he does have J Cribbs potential

  259. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    but he cant play QB like Cribbs from wildcat

  260. M Lonetree Says:

    and personally, I would rather see the Raiders attempt to use Jacoby in formations that many of you have mentally slated for McFalldown as a receiver since I have no confidence whatsoever that McFumble won’t just cough up the rock no matter whether he gets it as a hand-off or by air.

  261. hello Says:

    you sikfks disgust me

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