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UPDATED: OTAs, Kiffin-Cable and `30 for 30′

Back at it this week, with Raiders’ OTA’s scheduled Tuesday through Thursday.

If form holds, the media window will be Wednesday (awaiting confirmation), with the Raiders opting for the NFL minimum of availability rather than build on a what has been a very good offseason in terms of positive vibes.

UPDATE: Indeed, media availability will be four of the next five Wednesdays _ May 19 and 26 followed by June 9 and 16.

A couple of items until then:

– Lane Kiffin’s interview with HBO’s “Real Sports” airs Tuesday. Haven’t seen an advance copy, but the Orange County Register reported Kiffin denied he was insubordinate and CNN-SI’s Peter King had a Kiffin quote regarding Al Davis and the coach’s defense about leaving Tennessee after a single season in his “Monday Morning Quarterback” column.

“How many Raiders coaches ended real great? It’s all Al Davis. He’s gonna run the whole thing. What’s going to happen is whatever he feels like that day,” Kiffin said.

Contrast that approach with how Tom Cable described working with Davis following the draft.

“When I first got this job, one of the things I asked him to do was teach me (the business side of it), free agency, putting a team together through the draft,” Cable said. “We’re connecting that way, and it’s a good thing. The field stuff, the coaching, that is easy for me. That’s what I’ve always done. But there’s another whole side of this that’s just as important. That’s where as an organization, we’re able to do it together.”

Cable may not ultimately succeed, and we’ll have a good indication it’s a lost cause the moment Sebastian Janikowski lines up for a 76-yard field goal attempt (not that he’d be insubordinate in any way). If the offense improves, and the Raiders still struggle in terms of wins and losses, Hue Jackson could be next man up.

But Cable is operating in a way that gives him something Kiffin didn’t want _ a chance. You either look to succeed and survive or look to get out. So far, both Cable and Kiffin got what they wanted.

– Is this supposed to be tongue-in-cheek and I’m too clueless to get it?

In Mike Lombardi’s weekly Sunday column he writes “According to sources I’ve talked to in the NFL, former Raiders first-round pick JaMarcus Russell apparently is running out of options. Cincinnati isn’t interested, and several teams are exploring the possibility of Russell playing another position. Russell needs to be more proactive to get back in the NFL, and if that means turning to the CFL, he must explore that option. Waiting for his phone to ring from an NFL team is not going to happen.”

Playing another position?

Putting aside the jokes about Russell playing nose tackle or on the offensive line, what other position could he possibly play and exactly how long are these teams spending on someone whose sole strength at present is a strong throwing arm at a position other than quarterback?

– Lots of angry reaction on Ice Cube’s “Straight Outta LA,” the ESPN “30 for 30” film on the rapper’s youth and the influence of the Los Angeles Raiders.

Growing up in the East Bay during the Raiders’ Oakland glory years, my own point of view was expressed much better in HBO’s “Rebels of Oakland,” the documentary about the championship seasons of the A’s and Raiders. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t interesting to see things from a different frame of reference.

Most striking _ the Los Angeles Raiders represented style over substance, attitude over production. The Oakland Raiders were true iconoclasts, quirky individualists who became a team every Sunday.

Davis was right in that he’ll ultimately be judged by history, and make no mistake _ if the Raiders actually turn things around, considering the change in media since they last won anything _ he’ll be a bigger story than he ever was while presiding over three Super Bowl champions and railing against the perceived injustices of the NFL.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    Seymour doesn’t want to play here but Haynesworth does?

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    Fat Albert already got paid after being tagged.

    Richard Seymour is about to. Seymour never said anything about a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. Just wants one last payday. said he’ll play for anybody but the Pats

    Fat Albert (before hitting FA) said he’ll go to the highest bidder. That highest bidder was Washington. He’s no longer asking for money. He’s got that. He wants to play NT on a 4-3 defense. He’s not a 3-4 DE

    how many other 3-4 DE’s do you see around the league that weigh 350+ and completely dominate?

    Skins signed Holliday & Carriker to play 3-4 DE. plus they have holovers Jarmon & Daniels from last year

    Jarmon 277. Holliday 285. Carriker 296. Daniels 305.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    At receiver we have viable options

    At NT we have William Joseph and Desmond Bryant. Bryant weighs 290lbs and is a penetrator. I doubt he can beat his man 1-1 enough times to command a double team, nor do I think he’s big enough to be a load for an O-Lineman to move out of running lanes.

    William Joseph is a fringe NFL player who is often cut and re-signed during the year by 1 team in the NFL.

  • http://raiders.com Charged Up for Superbowl Victory

    I got to go make some rock and roll. This new girl joined the band. She is smoking hot. I am pretty sure she wants to get charged up by Mr. Charged Up! LOL peace bros

  • 30 year raider

    lakers 112 phx nuns 101

    thats for u rockstar!! lol

  • Plunketthead

    The Oakland Raiders had a bad rep long before they went hollywood and the compton crips didnt do crap for the Raiders.
    Before they went to LA, almost everyone HATED the Raiders.
    Go to any bar in Vegas, two, three fans top. The other twenty people hated the Raiders and hated you for cheering for them as they kicked arse.

    La brought the bandwagon fans, compton and the tijuana nation are johnny come latelys

    Long live AL!!!!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Since when are the Raiders afraid of taking on guys that are rough around the edges

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    Sorry Javon Walker and Jamarcus Russell screwed that up for the Albert Haynesworth’s of the world.

    This whole notion that Haynesworth is sitting out because of the switch to a 3-4 is laughable. Has nothing to do with it, he wants more money. Guarantee they pay him more, and all of a sudden he loves to play the 3-4.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Who cares about the LA vs. Oakland thing.

    I am more interested in stopping the doggone run!

  • 30 year raider

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    I got to go make some rock and roll. This new girl joined the band. She is smoking hot. I am pretty sure she wants to get charged up by Mr. Charged Up! LOL peace bros
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    she gonna get charged up by some double AA batteries not by u fool!

  • RaiderRockstar

    lakers 112 phx nuns 101

    thats for u rockstar!!

    ***

    HAHA. we’ll see

    the little suns team will put up a fight at least

  • 30 year raider

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Who cares about the LA vs. Oakland thing.

    I am more interested in stopping the doggone run!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    man thats what i say who cares………………
    hymmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    but u know what???? you cant spell oakland without LA………….HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    No one thought for a second that Javon Walker could play. deAngelo Hall was a bad fit for the defense we ran. JaDavis Russell wasn’t a malcontent, he was just lazy as all can be. Plus, as a draft pick, he never proved anything.

    Haynesworth can play and play well. And on his worst night will be a better option than Desmond Bryant, who at 290 lbs will be playing out of position (a typical Raider trait). I have no problem bringing on attitudes that can play. Those are good risks to take.

  • RaiderRockstar

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    You guys are so gullible with this “he just wants to play in a 3-4″ notion.

    Haynesworth has been about one thing and one thing only his hole career, money. When asked about his love for football, his exact words were, “if the money is right”. His exact words!!!

    Well guess what, this year, the money isn’t right. I think he blatantly signed his deal last year to set himself up for this, after one year, wanting a new deal or extension.

    Like if the Redskins just announced tomorrow “we are scrapping any notions of going to a 3-4″, Haynesworth would just show up the next day with a smile ready to work.

    LMAO!!!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Bryant and Kelly substituting for one another at UT is an excellent decision.

    Putting Bryant and Kelly on the field at the same time will lead to those knifing runs from the opponent that we’ve grown used to

  • 30 year raider

    snb

    man im just playin bro i had to throw that in at least one time… man i cant wait till i get my #55 ROMAC IN BLACK!!!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Albert Haynesworth may in fact be the #1 locker room cancer in the entire league, and people on here want to give up draft picks for him.

    Haven’t we learned anything lately people? The organization just ain’t going there right now.

  • The Return of Godliness

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Godliness, I will sodomize in front of your pathetic Raider Nation with my Dan Fouts Starting Lineup figurine.
    *******************************

    LOL no wonder the women in SD cant wait to have Raider men take over the city…..I’m not into that…maybe you should go to the 49er blog with that nonsense

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    1st of all…every player, coach, owner, and citizen in a capitalist society is about the money. I am about money and so are you. Only people that are not are folks working in non-profit and the military.

    Haynesworth is not holding out for more money. He is the highest paid defensive player in the NFL and he just signed his deal last year.

    Acording to the AP, he does not want to play the 3-4. He said as much earlier in the year.

  • 30 year raider

    # vegas raider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Albert Haynesworth may in fact be the #1 locker room cancer in the entire league, and people on here want to give up draft picks for him.

    Haven’t we learned anything lately people? The organization just ain’t going there right now.
    ##########################################

    I AGREE the dude is a big azz baby WE DONT NEED THAT CLOWN UP IN HERE!!!! dont be surprised if you see john marshall do alot more stunting this year!! hitting THAT hole quick with diff looks…. if anything why havent we signed henderson yet

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    SnB,

    It is about the money, he made something like $16 million last year, and is only set for around $6 million this year. Bump that back up to $16 and guarantee that 3-4 sounds pretty good to him.

    IMO, from reading about this guy for years, the 3-4 is just a smoke-screen excuse for him to ask for more money. Could be wrong, but his past remarks and actions make this sound a little like crying wolf to me.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    30 year,

    The Raiders rarely outscheme anyone. I am skeptical when I hear about different looks, moving players around etc..etc..

    That’s not the M.O of the Raiders and you all know it. Its a base 4-3 with a lot of man2man and minimal blitzing.

    So, Desomnd Bryant (290 lbs UT) is going to have to take it to the LG and C on those running plays. Otherwise one of the lineman get free and mug McClain…if Bryant is not beating his man 1-1, then look for those gashing runs again

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas,

    Haynesworth, or his agent, isn’t stupid. they have no leg to stand on to get more money after just signing a 100 million deal with 40m guaranteed.

    Just last year. Highest paid defensive player.

    Its not money that’s deterring this guy, its the scheme.

  • RaiderResurrection

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Guess whose #1 y’all, Philip ‘mutha f*cking’ Rivers!!!

    _______________________________________________________

    I always knew Chargers participated in incest. This man said it himself.

  • RaiderResurrection

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Godliness, I will sodomize in front of your pathetic Raider Nation with my Dan Fouts Starting Lineup figurine.

    _______________________________________________________

    Honestly? From man to man, What the hell are you thinking?

    Even KoolKell, Richchet, RealMaddenRaider, etc. Who are the extreme posters in recent memories never said stuff like that.

    That just goes over board and you deserve to play in traffic.

    Forget the girly power puff girl blue uniform and being a Charger fan.

    You sound like a No on prop 8 fruit. (no offense to any gay people on here, but I never knew a gay Raiders fan)

  • RaiderResurrection

    Someone get this guy blocked, deleted, or mediated from this blog!

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory

  • 30 year raider

    # RaiderResurrection Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Godliness, I will sodomize in front of your pathetic Raider Nation with my Dan Fouts Starting Lineup figurine.

    _______________________________________________________

    Honestly? From man to man, What the hell are you thinking?

    Even KoolKell, Richchet, RealMaddenRaider, etc. Who are the extreme posters in recent memories never said stuff like that.

    That just goes over board and you deserve to play in traffic.

    Forget the girly power puff girl blue uniform and being a Charger fan.

    You sound like a No on prop 8 fruit. (no offense to any gay people on here, but I never knew a gay Raiders fan)
    ##############################

    CHARGED up is a freakin queer/ trisexual

  • 30 year raider

    SNB VEGAS

    WELL U LOOK at those stats… man numbers dont lie…

  • RaiderResurrection

    Amen 30 Year Raider!

  • 30 year raider

    its not even close… john henderson has outperformed fat albert in every single category exept sacks.. and its a diff of only one!!! 29-28 fuk fat albert!!!! WE DONT NEED HIM!!! WE ARE GETTING RID OF ALL THE CANCERS ON THIS TEAM…

  • 30 year raider

    STANFORD ROUTT is next to go… mark my words

  • RaiderResurrection

    Isn’t Fat Albert the same age (roughly) as John Henderson?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    30 year,

    Cancers or not…we still need players.

    Desmond Bryant as the starter next to TK is not going to get the job done. We all know it deep in our collective souls.

    Do you really see Desmond Bryant (290lbs) full-time inside beating his man enough times to command a double team?

    Do you really see him in their full-time clogging running lanes and forcing the RB to go in a different direction?

    I want to believe he’s going to be the man. I just can’t. Not a 290lbs UFA from Harvard who played spot duty.

    And don’t kid yourself into thinking that Rolondo McClain will just shed all the blocks and be a missle into the gap. he needs freekn help! And the opponents are professionals too.

    I would much rather spend money and time on receivers and defensive backs….but he truth is, if this defense is going to truly succeed, its going to need 11 starters. Not a few starters and a couple of “get me bys”

    The opponent will continue to run the ball until the Raiders demonstrate they are going to stop it.

    So what is your recommendation?

    Also, Seymour is NOT coming inside. He’s the RDE…Houston is the LDE. Cable said it himself…so forget the idea that Seymour is manning the middle.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    The whole Haynesworth talk is fairly moot because we aren’t dealing for him. No way no how.

    Now John Henderson? That could be a match potentially, and as long as we didn’t overpay him, I would be cool with it.

    Give him 2 years/9 million, with a few incentives.

    But you know what, there were 3 teams worse than us stopping the run last year, and they haven’t jumped at Henderson yet either. If he was such a sure-fire solution to stopping the run, he would already have a nice new shiny contract.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    RaiderResurrection Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    Isn’t Fat Albert the same age (roughly) as John Henderson?
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    Haynesworth is 29 yrs old

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Just because Cable said something in April doesn’t mean it will hold water by November.

    Houston and Seymour will see some time in the middle, and not just on passing downs. You can book that.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    VEgas Raider,

    Just get someone in here to compete for that position and be a CREDIBLE alternative.

    Personally, I would move Seymour or Houston inside, but that’s not happening.

    This is starting to line up just like last year when all of you thought that Trevor Scott could hold the point on the end.

    After getting ABSOLUTELY POUNDED INTO FINE DUST BY San Fran in preseason and training camp…did the Raiders make a last second trade for Seymour the week before the season started.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    vegas raider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Just because Cable said something in April doesn’t mean it will hold water by November.

    Houston and Seymour will see some time in the middle, and not just on passing downs. You can book that.
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    That’s no strategy. Just can’t play mix-n-match with these guys. They are going to line-up at their primary position most of the time given down and distance.

    Not some hodge-podge of moving players around. That will be purely situational

  • buckeyeraider

    ‘Sup Fellas.
    Must be something wrong with Big John Henderson. wasn’t too long ago he was considered one of the best interior D lineman in football. Those guys are at a premium. Now, not only are the Raiders not biting, but apparently neither are any of the other 31 clubs.
    He’s been on the market for a couple of weeks now.
    Don’t know if his knees are shot or what. Drugs? Attitude?
    Something’s wrong.

  • 30 year raider

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    30 year,

    Cancers or not…we still need players.

    Desmond Bryant as the starter next to TK is not going to get the job done. We all know it deep in our collective souls.

    Do you really see Desmond Bryant (290lbs) full-time inside beating his man enough times to command a double team?

    Do you really see him in their full-time clogging running lanes and forcing the RB to go in a different direction?

    I want to believe he’s going to be the man. I just can’t. Not a 290lbs UFA from Harvard who played spot duty.

    And don’t kid yourself into thinking that Rolondo McClain will just shed all the blocks and be a missle into the gap. he needs freekn help! And the opponents are professionals too.

    I would much rather spend money and time on receivers and defensive backs….but he truth is, if this defense is going to truly succeed, its going to need 11 starters. Not a few starters and a couple of “get me bys”

    The opponent will continue to run the ball until the Raiders demonstrate they are going to stop it.

    So what is your recommendation?

    Also, Seymour is NOT coming inside. He’s the RDE…Houston is the LDE. Cable said it himself…so forget the idea that Seymour is manning the middle.
    ###########################################

    b4 we start passing judgement on what bryant can or cant do i think we need to take a step back and maybe give this kid a chance… i mean we have only seen him play for a lil while… lets see what he can do first b4 we start passing that judgement is all im saying…290 lbs is of solid muscle is something i would much rather have than 330lbs of slow no good for nothing gerard warren ill tell u that much…

  • 30 year raider

    # buckeyeraider Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    ‘Sup Fellas.
    Must be something wrong with Big John Henderson. wasn’t too long ago he was considered one of the best interior D lineman in football. Those guys are at a premium. Now, not only are the Raiders not biting, but apparently neither are any of the other 31 clubs.
    He’s been on the market for a couple of weeks now.
    Don’t know if his knees are shot or what. Drugs? Attitude?
    Something’s wrong.
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    whats up BUCKEYE! well u know bro thats what ol physicals are for.. i was wonderin the same thing tho

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    30 year,

    I hear you in giving people a chance. Maybe I am cynical…I know I stopped drinking the kool-aid with this franchise.

    The Raiders have a nasty penchant for bringing in great talent but neglecting the talent around them to make them successfull.

    For example, sign Randy Moss but have no Line or QB to throw him the ball.

    Sign Robert Gallery and move him around every line position.

    Sign Michael Huff and put him out deep in no-mans land forced to cover the entire field sideline to sideline

    Sign JaDavis and give him no discipline, no stable coaching, no O-Line and No receivers (Although JaDavis was a tool and a lazy good for nothing)

    Now we bring in McClain. And we are just going to plunk him down there with Tommy Kelly and Desmond Bryant in front of him.

    Very risky

  • M Lonetree

    sign posted outside of Alameda HQ -

    Give Us No More Your Fat Blobs nor Slobs nor Slackers nor Spoiled Whiners Just Looking for a Paycheck. We only take Football Players here.

    kinda rules out Hayneson and Henderworth and TeOw doesn’t it.

  • Plunketthead

    No Knuckleheads

  • Plunketthead

    TO = knucklehead
    Fatalbert = knucklehead

    However if Al hires them, I support them.

  • M Lonetree

    Plunketthead,

    well said.

  • buckeyeraider

    How’s it going 30 Yr?
    Can’t wait for this season. Kinda sad really. Summer is just beginning. The pools haven’t even opened yet. Baseball is just getting into gear and I’m almost wishing the summer away. Can’t wait for ‘em to kick off the old pigskin. I believe the Raiders are going to be very competitive this year. Could even surprise. I cannot wait!

  • jhill

    This is starting to line up just like last year when all of you thought that Trevor Scott could hold the point on the end.

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    LOL, you included.

    I tried to tell you DE was the weak spot and you pumped up Scott to justify wanting Raji.

    Seymoure, Kelly, and Bryant will get the majority of the snaps at DT. It is what it is. Henderson, or no one else is going to come in a change that. The coaches have a different idea than you do about how to fix the run.

  • jhill

    Shaugnessy and Bryant are two 2nd year players that are going to see a lot of time on the field based upon how they played last year.

  • M Lonetree

    SnB,

    hope you’ve got a line on some kool-aid ’cause you might be in for a pleasant surprise with McClain.

    people assume that a fat blob in the middle is necessary to make the MLB effective.

    think oppositely. Oaktown D-linemen knew that nobody has had their backs for years. (Kirk? Napoleon? nope) Now it has come to pass that there is someone in Rolando.

    the dynamic has changed significantly

  • Seymour Bush

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    May 17th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

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    Man someone please talk to Seymour…..21 million was his roster bonus!!!!! Dan Snyder contract!!!! Roster bonus not his base salary. He is only getting about 4-5 million this season for playing!!!! Come on man!!! Fuk playing for Shannahan he takes the fun out of the game and he is a such a hack and a loser. Haynesworth isnt a 3-4 NT or DE…he is a 4-3 NT plain and simple and he knows what he can do I dont blame him.
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    Sorry but Jacksonville cant think he was that bad if they moved him to UT after Stroud left…..use your brain man….UT is the guy who doesnt do the dirty work and is apass rushing DT…also they did some 3-4 and he play DE which was stupid. The entire defense left after 2007 year. Remember their 12-4 year and how tough that defense was? Look at the defenses the years he was there they had excellent run Ds…..NEXT
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    C’mon TROG, Why on earth would Dan Snyder pay $21mm to watch Haynesworth go play for another team? He could have done that for FREE by NOT offering THAT BONUS! Snyder had two choices: pay Haynesworth $35mm to play half assed for ONE YEAR, or $40+mm for two years. He opted for the two year deal ONLY so he didn’t look completely STUPID! He tried to trade Haynesworth before the draft and got NO TAKERS. So, if he cut Haynesworth, paying him $30+mm for just one year, he would have looked SO stupid it would make Al Davis’ wheeeling and dealing look like Warren freaking Buffet.

    As for Henderson, again, you bring in the team as a whole not him individually. The team as a whole has played up and down over the last four years. They have had good years, they had so so years. Their defense has played decent, their defense played kinda crappy. Henderson has been paid like a four time pro bowl player. Henderson has played like a 5th rounder. No team in the NFL is going to repeat that mistake again.