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Raiders not on same page, after all

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 9th, 2010 at 3:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Following the first day of practice the Raiders’ mandatory minicamp following the draft, I asked rookie third-round pick Jared Veldheer about the intensity of the “no contact” practices.

He laughed out loud.

“Well, it’s a lot of contact right now,” said Veldheer, who went on to talk about technique, pad level and how you don’t quite finish a block even if you fire out to start one.

He said, “Besides that, the run stuff is pretty full go.”

The following is the official offseason guidelines for the 14 workouts classified as OTAs:

– No pads except protective knee or elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.

– No live contact; no live contact drills between offensive and defensive linemen.

– A maximum six hours per day, with a maximum two hours on field for any player.

– 7-on-7, 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills will be permitted, providing no live contact takes place.

For the second time since 2007, the Raiders have apparently either exceeded the amount of contact deemed acceptable for the offseason or practiced too long. The joint statement by the NFL and NFLPA did not specify Oakland’s violation and the Raiders have had no comment. Oakland head coach Tom Cable was the offensive line coach the last time the Raiders lost OTA time.

Oakland joins the Baltimore Ravens as the second team to lose OTA sessions. Violations typically are reported through the union, with the NFL then requesting practice film with the offending team obliged to produce it.

So as happy as Cable has been with the offseason turnout and as much as he believes everyone on the same page, a player or three had to deviate from the script to get the ball rolling for punishment to be meted out.

The Raiders have been pushing the two-hour limit in most of their offseason practices open to the media but cut Wednesday’s short by comparison, starting at 9:30 a.m. and finishing a little after 11 a.m.

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  • jhill

    Yeah, Indy has a better team than we do.

    Painter and Gradkowski are plain and simply QBs that won’t get a team past 6 wins.

    Yeah they have fire and passion, will know the play book, yada, yada, yada. Their talent level = 6 wins.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

  • the_big_one_of_83

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

    who did u want then RMR who would u saywill get us over 5 win hump

  • Just Fire Baby

    No, the key point is who’s the best QB talent on this team right now. I think if you want to look at career accomplishments, you know your Marshawn Lynch tactic, Gradkowski is running #4.

    ***********************************

    LMAO…..

    Wasn’t Gradkowski way better than Frye last year? You know 6 TD’s to 3 int’s, compared to 1 TD and 4 ints.

    Just letting you know that Campbell is a certified non-winner at this stage in his career.

  • fat kidd

    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

  • the_big_one_of_83

    fat kidd Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

    al cant take all the blame the game is played and won on the field some players are to blame as well for vacationing when they come to oakland instead of giving 100%

  • jhill

    JFB,

    What’s the point of your propoganda?

    Really!?!?

    Are u seriously suggesting that we should start Bruce Gradkowski. Is he the guy we really should get behind to lead us to …..

  • jhill

    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage, kept the coaches in tact, added an OC.

  • the_big_one_of_83

    randy moss warren sapp kerry collins javon walker just to name a few

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Snitches get the dirt nap!

  • the_big_one_of_83

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage, kept the coaches in tact, added an OC.

    good point al atleast try’s thats why we are the team of the decades every ten years he manages to get a squad that can compete

  • Just Fire Baby

    My point is that we still don’t have crap at QB and that whoever plays best in preseason still shouldn’t just be given the keys for 16 games because all that all 4 of those QB’s have proven so far is that their teams will be no good if they start 16 games.

    Not too hard right?

    And I am biased to the one guy of the 4 who has actually won tough road games in the Silver and Black before. Sue me.

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  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # the_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

    who did u want then RMR who would u saywill get us over 5 win hump

    ……………

    A GM.

  • jhill

    Not too hard right?

    ——————————————————

    Totally disagree that we should have the bullpen ready, if you will. And I don’t see Campbell failing.

    IMO, Mini Garcia is the 4th best QB talent on the roster. Maybe #3, but I’d take Frye and Campbell 1 and 2. Grads is too short and has a turnover rate similar to Russell’s. His throwing motion is terrible. Oline has to be too good for a guy like him to be back there.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # the_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    fat kidd Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

    al cant take all the blame the game is played and won on the field some players are to blame as well for vacationing when they come to oakland instead of giving 100%

    …………..

    The reason why they slack is because they can. Al won’t let a coach crack the whip on them. Oh, Al will let a coach attack another coach. Worked wonders for us last year, didn’t it? (5-11). So, it’s still Al’s fault, period. Al is responsible for every single employee here. If Al only had a losing season every few years or so, I could see chalking it up to Al just making a few bad moves and still being able to right the ship. But 7 years? Al is garbage!

  • the_big_one_of_83

    1983 SB win 1990 afc championship apperance 2000 playoff contender 2001 afc championship apperance 2002 SB apperance were getting close to ten again we will start competing this YR

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage,

    …………..

    My doctor said I can’t laugh anymore. Tore some muscle lining. So please, cut it out.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # 408RAIDER Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Snitches get the dirt nap!

    ……………

    Raiders get the dirt nap, year after year.

  • the_big_one_of_83

    RMR the GM cant play QB

  • Just Fire Baby

    Grads is too short and has a turnover rate similar to Russell’s

    ************************

    Really? I most have missed when Jamarcus had twice as many TD’s as INT’s.

    BTW, Frye 6’4 220, Boller 6’3 214, Bruce 6’2 220.

    They are all the same fkn size.

  • Rayda23059

    MR

    The reason why they slack is because they can. Al won’t let a coach crack the whip on them. Oh, Al will let a coach attack another coach. Worked wonders for us last year, didn’t it? (5-11). So, it’s still Al’s fault, period. Al is responsible for every single employee here. If Al only had a losing season every few years or so, I could see chalking it up to Al just making a few bad moves and still being able to right the ship. But 7 years? Al is garbage!

    And this comment from someone that supports organized labor?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Frye AND Boller are both not making the team, so your going to have to pick a side on that one.

  • the_big_one_of_83

    j hill frye is fragile just like chaz

  • the_big_one_of_83

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    Frye AND Boller are both not making the team, so your going to have to pick a side on that one.

    who will be num 3 QB then

  • Just Fire Baby

    J,

    Here’s some film to review why I am down on Campbell.

    Week 1 last year. Great stats, all of 3 points scored offensively until his garbage TD at the end of the game that he patented in Washington.

    Not to mention a TD costing turnover.

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009091310/2009/REG1/redskins@giants/recap#tab:watch

  • fat kidd

    see the team is run by al davis and his lawyers ,they get 9 million back from j. russell and then spend it on T.O. FLOZELL ADAMS ,BRIAN WESTBROOK ETC.

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    MR

    Please explain to me why you’re a Raiders fan? All you do is Hate..

  • Rayda23059

    408RAIDER Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    MR

    Please explain to me why you’re a Raiders fan? All you do is Hate..

    —-
    That’s easy, he’s not.

  • fat kidd

    AL DAVIS LAWYERS SHOULD BE IN H.O.F.

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  • Rayder

    Raider Rule #1: Cheating is encouraged
    Raider Rule #2: See Rule #1