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Raiders not on same page, after all

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, June 9th, 2010 at 3:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Following the first day of practice the Raiders’ mandatory minicamp following the draft, I asked rookie third-round pick Jared Veldheer about the intensity of the “no contact” practices.

He laughed out loud.

“Well, it’s a lot of contact right now,” said Veldheer, who went on to talk about technique, pad level and how you don’t quite finish a block even if you fire out to start one.

He said, “Besides that, the run stuff is pretty full go.”

The following is the official offseason guidelines for the 14 workouts classified as OTAs:

– No pads except protective knee or elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.

– No live contact; no live contact drills between offensive and defensive linemen.

– A maximum six hours per day, with a maximum two hours on field for any player.

– 7-on-7, 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills will be permitted, providing no live contact takes place.

For the second time since 2007, the Raiders have apparently either exceeded the amount of contact deemed acceptable for the offseason or practiced too long. The joint statement by the NFL and NFLPA did not specify Oakland’s violation and the Raiders have had no comment. Oakland head coach Tom Cable was the offensive line coach the last time the Raiders lost OTA time.

Oakland joins the Baltimore Ravens as the second team to lose OTA sessions. Violations typically are reported through the union, with the NFL then requesting practice film with the offending team obliged to produce it.

So as happy as Cable has been with the offseason turnout and as much as he believes everyone on the same page, a player or three had to deviate from the script to get the ball rolling for punishment to be meted out.

The Raiders have been pushing the two-hour limit in most of their offseason practices open to the media but cut Wednesday’s short by comparison, starting at 9:30 a.m. and finishing a little after 11 a.m.

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132 Responses to “Raiders not on same page, after all”

  1. Raider E Says:

    first biotches

  2. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nothing wrong with being in a select group with the Ravens.

  3. kvnbntly Says:

    way to be on top of it there

  4. Seymour Bush Says:

    Why would anyone think the Raiders would be on the same page?

  5. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If your not cheating your not trying.

  6. kvnbntly Says:

    so where should the over under on houston for unsportsman like be this year 4?????

  7. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Pro Football Talk .com points out the no contact rule is often broken but rarely enforced. Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.

  8. Monsieur Madden Verite Says:

    Beeecham and R8eray, vas te faire encule!

  9. R8eray Says:

    We should start practicing with the Ravens!

  10. fat kidd Says:

    Darrius Heyward-Bey has reportedly out-practiced Louis Murphy throughout each of the Raiders’ last two OTAs.

    Heyward-Bey “dusted” speedy rookie Walter McFadden on a 20+ yard end-zone strike from Jason Campbell Wednesday, and has mostly avoided drops. DHB isn’t on the fantasy radar, but is worth tracking for his big-play potential.
    Source: Oakland Tribune

    Nice to hear, but gameday is where I want to see it. Hopefully it does translate to gameday.

  11. Silver-n-Black-666 Says:

    COW its been a while how the hell are you?

    Fat kid take a break you must be out of breath breathing heavy all over my posts.

    Its not very manly to try and talk like your a tough guy on the internet makes you look weak and pathetic.

  12. KoolKell Says:

    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    Maybe they and McClain can create a new physical vibe for the Defense.

  13. R8eray Says:

    a GRACEFUL TAUNT….

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Having guys that want to fight and get after people will be a welcome addition to the defense.

    Our defensive captain and MLB was a fashion diva the last 6 years.

  15. KoolKell Says:

    Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.
    ———————
    There you go, making excuses and placing blame on others, for that organization’s actions.

  16. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    this rule is gay these guys get paid more than a doctor and the pres but cant practice to hard BS

  17. R8eray Says:

    2 violations in 3 years is not enough…1-2 violations in one year is the quota! We gotta do something different around here…get this team back to .500 football (at least)!

  18. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    The player that “unexpectedly” gets cut before training camp is the snitch..

  19. fat kidd Says:

    Silver-n-Black-666 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    COW its been a while how the hell are you?

    Fat kid take a break you must be out of breath breathing heavy all over my posts.

    Its not very manly to try and talk like your a tough guy on the internet makes you look weak and pathetic.

    ……………………lets not talk lets walk the walk i am not called fat kidd cause i am small,so i if i come to your game section and you identify yourself i promise not to breathe heavy when i pull your lungs out of your chest scabbie

  20. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    if u pick in the top ten they should let u practice as hard as u can

  21. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Coach on Wheels Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Pro Football Talk .com points out the no contact rule is often broken but rarely enforced. Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.
    ________________________________________________________

    I dont believe the league is focusing more on a single team ore than others, and they need video proof to make their point, so I think its crybabies…

    COW, good to see you back, im on another schedule these days so im not that often here late at night…

    I really fear we used Schilens too early and forced him on field, I fear his legs will implode this season again… Hope im wrong..

  22. kvnbntly Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    sounds a bit ournery, right after the raiders got seymoure a pat fan was on here saying “its amazing what he can do when he’s pissed” and the monday game agianst sd proved him right. maybe houston can keep him fired up

  23. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    of the draft

  24. R8eray Says:

    D-A-D?

  25. Monsieur Madden Verite Says:

    The snitch was probably Russell.

  26. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # R8eray Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    D-A-D?
    _______________________________________________________

    Disneyland After Dark??

  27. KoolKell Says:

    The_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    this rule is gay these guys get paid more than a doctor and the pres but cant practice to hard BS
    ————————-
    “too hard”

    I never hear people complain about the salaries of anybody, except athletes, particularly those of a certain class. “non-deserving” ones.

    Yet you get your asz ripped from throat to crotch everyday by Corporate America, while you subsidize their massive profits with your tax-dollar. Suckers. Bait & Switch.

  28. Monsieur Madden Verite Says:

    Beeecham, pourquoi vous êtes si retardé?

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Way to read between the lines KoolKell and pull the race card.

    Do you act this way in the real world?

  30. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    sounds a bit ournery, right after the raiders got seymoure a pat fan was on here saying “its amazing what he can do when he’s pissed” and the monday game agianst sd proved him right. maybe houston can keep him fired up
    ________________________________________________________

    doesnt help much if it mean Houston and Seymour gets penalized, that will only hurt the team, and we are already way to much penalized on the field..

  31. fat kidd Says:

    NFL Network Schedule JUNE 13 2:30 PM EST .NFL REPLAY: 2009 WEEK 13 – OAK vs. PIT Oakland Raiders vs. Pittsburgh Steelers (12/06/09) – Scoring 21 points in the fourth quarter, the Raiders hand the defending champion Steelers their fourth straight loss. With less than two minutes remaining, Gradkowski compiles an 88-yard drive resulting in the winning score

  32. kvnbntly Says:

    true i suppose, lol this last ota being suspended sucks. i waas really hoping seynoure would show for the last one

  33. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    doesnt help much if it mean Houston and Seymour gets penalized, that will only hurt the team, and we are already way to much penalized on the field..

    this is very true butkeep those guys fired up

  34. KoolKell Says:

    Il est Retarde.

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    88 yard drive!!!!

    How many of those did we have last year? 2? 3?

    Let’s hope Jacoby can do a little better than get it past the 12 at the end of games.

  36. MistaBrown Says:

    KKKell, no mention of the DOW since you slithered back in here ?

  37. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    true i suppose, lol this last ota being suspended sucks. i waas really hoping seynoure would show for the last one
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, are you typing this on you phone or what?

    well they are entitled to 14 OTA days, and no team uses them all, so if you have a smart team you plan for 14 OTA days, in case you get penalized, then you have days to spare =) just in case it gets a bit too wild =)

  38. kvnbntly Says:

    jason campbell vs saints is the first game this weekend, then oak and pitt, followed by dallas and nyg. all three games raider fans should watch. the dallas game just to see if flojob adams still has much left i believe he’s still a free agent.

  39. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That was Campbell’s best game of the year.

  40. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Mistabrown…

    you looked up what an analogy means? last time you didnt know the difference between an example and an analogy…

    btw, just keep on lying, many guys here will get you caught in the act, so just keep it on…

  41. kvnbntly Says:

    naw just not a profecient typer or speller, thats what happens in idaho when ya get too old to run up and down mountiamns, you get a job dumping trucks in a grain elevator

  42. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Also during that few weeks were the Saints struggled and lost a few games and played down to their opponent.

  43. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Oliver Stone is about to make a chumy-feely movie on Hugo.

  44. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    naw just not a profecient typer or speller, thats what happens in idaho when ya get too old to run up and down mountiamns, you get a job dumping trucks in a grain elevator
    ________________________________________________________

    Fair enough, I’ll let it go then =) sorry =)

  45. kvnbntly Says:

    what do you suppose houston called satele “pineapple head” ???? lol

  46. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    well if ford stays higgins i think will be traded with watkins

  47. MistaBrown Says:

    Pres Barback 0bama should kick his own ass for being a incompetent finger pointing derelict.

  48. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not sure if there would be much of a market for a soon to be released #4 WR.

  49. La Milicia Negra Says:

    well im out of here, you enjoy your obama talks… its nearly 0200 so im heading home soon, see ya gents take care and the c1owns as well..

  50. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    Pres Barback 0bama should kick his own ass for being a incompetent finger pointing derelict.

    ………………finally a pres who will kick ass and take names,instead of i dont know let me ask dick cheney

  51. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am pretty sure BO will not kick anyone’s ass.

    Just another quote for a bumper sticker.

  52. kvnbntly Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    naw just not a profecient typer or speller, thats what happens in idaho when ya get too old to run up and down mountiamns, you get a job dumping trucks in a grain elevator
    ________________________________________________________

    Fair enough, I’ll let it go then =) sorry =)

    not a problem at all, see what i mean about the spelling, i should rephrased that and said you move across the river to washinton and get a job dumpin trucks
    just a long distance fan

  53. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No such thing as a “long-distance” fan.

    It’s all Raider Nation.

  54. MistaBrown Says:

    0bama cant even kick his own ass, only a mental retard would believe he is going to “kick” anybody’s a$$, ever!
    _____

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    I am pretty sure BO will not kick anyone’s ass

  55. kvnbntly Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    No such thing as a “long-distance” fan.

    It’s all Raider Nation.

    thanks for the welcome, hopefully before they move from the coliseum i’ll make it to a game

  56. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dammit, nothing worse than playing in a 1,200 person poker tournament, hanging in there for 5 hours, than get blasted on the river, get 67th place and win exactly $18.

    Frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  57. KoolKell Says:

    The Raider Nation has a capital where the elites reside, and then there’s the hinterlands.

  58. MistaBrown Says:

    KKKell, every time I mention the DOW you take off running!

    :D

  59. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not sure if you read Mista, but if so, you might get a kick out of this:

    http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1920910,00.html

  60. JB Says:

    Contact is good. Aggression is better, violence directed at your opponent is best.

    That’s what we need, more opponent brutality. It’s time that we start dominating the lines of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Dominating lines win games. Defense wins championships, Dominating offenses win Super Bowls. We appear to finally going in the right direction. It’s about damn time.

  61. kvnbntly Says:

    time to clock out thanks

  62. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Just Fire Baby…

    If you get the chance, take a couple of days and visit Ruidosa. Beautiful area, some nice golf ,the horses should be runnin. Look for a bar called The Winners Circle in downtown, the place has “character”…

  63. fat kidd Says:

    A.B. Paine II Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    Fat Kidd Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    A.B. Paine II Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    Kvnbntly, are you really from Idaho?

    none of your business stalker.
    ———————
    Shut up fat boy! I’m also from Idaho.

    ……………………….nuthin in idaho but queers and steers

  64. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I dig “character”.

    Thanks for the headsup. I think my father-in-law goes hunting somewhere around there.

  65. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m sure he was there in spirit Mista.

  66. MistaBrown Says:

    KKKell doesn’t want to talk about the DOW now that it doesn’t fit in his moronic defense of Baracks failed economy…

    :D

  67. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Update on the Darren McFadden-Michael Bush situation to come later . . .

    *********************************

    Great job seeding, but you can’t wait 6 hours to give us the goods Jerry!!!

  68. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Just Fire Baby…

    It’s a “old school” bar/night club. Tuck and roll upholstered booths, free popcorn, live music 364 nights a year. Closed on x-mas….oh, and they serve ice COLD beer…

  69. The Big Banana Says:

    Schilens, who employed the polite strategy of “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all” when asked about JaMarcus Russell for most of the past two years, had no problem identifying what he liked about new quarterback Jason Campbell.

    “He’s smart, intelligent, throws a good ball,” Schilens said. “He works hard at learning the offense. I’m happy.”

    _______________________________________________________

    Be careful Jerry….You might get accused of incorrectly reading between the lines.

  70. The Big Banana Says:

    Who the heck is the tattler? Tape him to the dam goalpost upside down!

  71. jhill Says:

    You might get accused of incorrectly reading between the lines.

    ——————————————————-

    I guess I should go ahead and respond to this so you can stop posting it?

  72. The Big Banana Says:

    Nah, don’t respond. Too much fun.

  73. jhill Says:

    JFB,

    What did you shoot today?

  74. jhill Says:

    Too much fun.

    —————————————————–

    What’s too much fun?

    How about actually waiting until a read between the lines scenario comes up, lol!

    And the comment was about YOU semi pro bloggers reading between Jerry’s lines not Jerry reading between the lines.

  75. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    In a related story, Al Davis called Tom Cable’s involvement “limited”.
    ——————————-
    Now that’s funny!

  76. Just Fire Baby Says:

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
    JFB,

    What did you shoot today?

    ****************************

    Well……I had three pars and three snowmen out of 9 holes, so it was an up and down day. Short game is still very solid, long irons are still very awful.

    Playing this place right next to the house, Notah Bogay’s home course, Ladera. They have pro-am tours out there supposedly.

  77. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This Sunday we can watch both Campbell’s and Gradkowski’s best games from last year on NFLN.

    Jhill, this is required viewing for film review!!!

  78. jhill Says:

    three snowmen out of 9 holes

    ——————————————————

    Ouch

  79. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    well i hope were not keeping cartwright or bennett but we do need that third RB

  80. jhill Says:

    Jhill, this is required viewing for film review!!!

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    I don’t need to watch Gradkowski’s game. His best play was the bootleg, and his lucky 4th qtr duck and int drop will only make me hate the guy even more.

    Mini Garcia is TERRIBLE!

  81. fat kidd Says:

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
    three snowmen out of 9 holes

    ——————————————————

    Ouch

    …………………golf a manly sport,did you ladies knit something after golf

  82. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    bruce isnt that bad jhill it could be worst like that painter guy from indy

  83. RaidingTexas Says:

    So who was the rat?

  84. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t need to watch Gradkowski’s game

    *************************

    Well you can close your eyes as we are scoring touchdowns, but there is another 21 starters to review as well.

  85. edward teach Says:

    Blabbing Veldheer’s comments about the level of contact at OTAs is a perfect example of why the Raiders don’t give the media the access they desperately want, and cry about when they don’t get.

    Back in the day, reporters knew when to STFU. Today, not so much.

  86. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    he sits behind the best QB in the league so whats his excusse

  87. fat kidd Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    So who was the rat?

    …………..probably mistabrown

  88. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    So who was the rat?

    i think the rookies were running their mouth to much and talked to the teams player rep about the work outs

  89. jhill Says:

    Painter is terrible too. Gradkowski would have looked just as bad against the Jets.

  90. jhill Says:

    As a matter of fact, he did look pretty bad against the Jets, lol!

  91. jhill Says:

    golf a manly sport,did you ladies knit something after golf

    ——————————————————-

    Translation – Can’t get out of the tee box

  92. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Campbell has a career record of 19-32 with the Skins.

    The Skins record when Campbell didn’t play over the 5 years?

    17-12, 2 playoff appearances.

  93. jhill Says:

    And Bruce Gradkowski’s career #’s are ????

  94. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # BornInOakland Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Can you imagine Jack Tatum, Ted Hendricks, Mark Van Eeghen whining about too many practices?

    ………………..

    Those guys would never play on the type of team Al DAvis runs now.

  95. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If Al Davis or any other owners in the league had any problem with these OTA regulations they should have brought them up at the last contract negotiation.

  96. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    he was better than painter look at our o-line vs indy

  97. Just Fire Baby Says:

    5-10, but his teams were no better without him.

    That’s the key point.

  98. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    thats indy’s o-line

  99. jhill Says:

    No, the key point is who’s the best QB talent on this team right now. I think if you want to look at career accomplishments, you know your Marshawn Lynch tactic, Gradkowski is running #4.

  100. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    Jason Campbell has a career record of 19-32 with the Skins.

    The Skins record when Campbell didn’t play over the 5 years?

    17-12, 2 playoff appearances.

    campbell will be better here like the mens warehouse guy i garuntee it

  101. jhill Says:

    Yeah, Indy has a better team than we do.

    Painter and Gradkowski are plain and simply QBs that won’t get a team past 6 wins.

    Yeah they have fire and passion, will know the play book, yada, yada, yada. Their talent level = 6 wins.

  102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

  103. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

    who did u want then RMR who would u saywill get us over 5 win hump

  104. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No, the key point is who’s the best QB talent on this team right now. I think if you want to look at career accomplishments, you know your Marshawn Lynch tactic, Gradkowski is running #4.

    ***********************************

    LMAO…..

    Wasn’t Gradkowski way better than Frye last year? You know 6 TD’s to 3 int’s, compared to 1 TD and 4 ints.

    Just letting you know that Campbell is a certified non-winner at this stage in his career.

  105. fat kidd Says:

    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

  106. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

    al cant take all the blame the game is played and won on the field some players are to blame as well for vacationing when they come to oakland instead of giving 100%

  107. jhill Says:

    JFB,

    What’s the point of your propoganda?

    Really!?!?

    Are u seriously suggesting that we should start Bruce Gradkowski. Is he the guy we really should get behind to lead us to …..

  108. jhill Says:

    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage, kept the coaches in tact, added an OC.

  109. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    randy moss warren sapp kerry collins javon walker just to name a few

  110. 408RAIDER Says:

    Snitches get the dirt nap!

  111. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage, kept the coaches in tact, added an OC.

    good point al atleast try’s thats why we are the team of the decades every ten years he manages to get a squad that can compete

  112. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My point is that we still don’t have crap at QB and that whoever plays best in preseason still shouldn’t just be given the keys for 16 games because all that all 4 of those QB’s have proven so far is that their teams will be no good if they start 16 games.

    Not too hard right?

    And I am biased to the one guy of the 4 who has actually won tough road games in the Silver and Black before. Sue me.

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  114. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # the_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Grad wouldn’t get us past 5 wins, actually, Jhill. And neither will Campbell.

    who did u want then RMR who would u saywill get us over 5 win hump

    ……………

    A GM.

  115. jhill Says:

    Not too hard right?

    ——————————————————

    Totally disagree that we should have the bullpen ready, if you will. And I don’t see Campbell failing.

    IMO, Mini Garcia is the 4th best QB talent on the roster. Maybe #3, but I’d take Frye and Campbell 1 and 2. Grads is too short and has a turnover rate similar to Russell’s. His throwing motion is terrible. Oline has to be too good for a guy like him to be back there.

  116. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # the_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    fat kidd Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    the key to the raiders having a good season is sitting in a office!!!!!!!!!al davis baby

    al cant take all the blame the game is played and won on the field some players are to blame as well for vacationing when they come to oakland instead of giving 100%

    …………..

    The reason why they slack is because they can. Al won’t let a coach crack the whip on them. Oh, Al will let a coach attack another coach. Worked wonders for us last year, didn’t it? (5-11). So, it’s still Al’s fault, period. Al is responsible for every single employee here. If Al only had a losing season every few years or so, I could see chalking it up to Al just making a few bad moves and still being able to right the ship. But 7 years? Al is garbage!

  117. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    1983 SB win 1990 afc championship apperance 2000 playoff contender 2001 afc championship apperance 2002 SB apperance were getting close to ten again we will start competing this YR

  118. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    jhill Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Al Davis has done his part.

    Great draft, got rid of the garbage,

    …………..

    My doctor said I can’t laugh anymore. Tore some muscle lining. So please, cut it out.

  119. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # 408RAIDER Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Snitches get the dirt nap!

    ……………

    Raiders get the dirt nap, year after year.

  120. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    RMR the GM cant play QB

  121. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Grads is too short and has a turnover rate similar to Russell’s

    ************************

    Really? I most have missed when Jamarcus had twice as many TD’s as INT’s.

    BTW, Frye 6′4 220, Boller 6′3 214, Bruce 6′2 220.

    They are all the same fkn size.

  122. Rayda23059 Says:

    MR

    The reason why they slack is because they can. Al won’t let a coach crack the whip on them. Oh, Al will let a coach attack another coach. Worked wonders for us last year, didn’t it? (5-11). So, it’s still Al’s fault, period. Al is responsible for every single employee here. If Al only had a losing season every few years or so, I could see chalking it up to Al just making a few bad moves and still being able to right the ship. But 7 years? Al is garbage!

    And this comment from someone that supports organized labor?

  123. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Frye AND Boller are both not making the team, so your going to have to pick a side on that one.

  124. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    j hill frye is fragile just like chaz

  125. the_big_one_of_83 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    Frye AND Boller are both not making the team, so your going to have to pick a side on that one.

    who will be num 3 QB then

  126. Just Fire Baby Says:

    J,

    Here’s some film to review why I am down on Campbell.

    Week 1 last year. Great stats, all of 3 points scored offensively until his garbage TD at the end of the game that he patented in Washington.

    Not to mention a TD costing turnover.

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009091310/2009/REG1/redskins@giants/recap#tab:watch

  127. fat kidd Says:

    see the team is run by al davis and his lawyers ,they get 9 million back from j. russell and then spend it on T.O. FLOZELL ADAMS ,BRIAN WESTBROOK ETC.

  128. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR

    Please explain to me why you’re a Raiders fan? All you do is Hate..

  129. Rayda23059 Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    MR

    Please explain to me why you’re a Raiders fan? All you do is Hate..

    —-
    That’s easy, he’s not.

  130. fat kidd Says:

    AL DAVIS LAWYERS SHOULD BE IN H.O.F.

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  132. Rayder Says:

    Raider Rule #1: Cheating is encouraged
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