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Raiders not on same page, after all

Following the first day of practice the Raiders’ mandatory minicamp following the draft, I asked rookie third-round pick Jared Veldheer about the intensity of the “no contact” practices.

He laughed out loud.

“Well, it’s a lot of contact right now,” said Veldheer, who went on to talk about technique, pad level and how you don’t quite finish a block even if you fire out to start one.

He said, “Besides that, the run stuff is pretty full go.”

The following is the official offseason guidelines for the 14 workouts classified as OTAs:

– No pads except protective knee or elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.

– No live contact; no live contact drills between offensive and defensive linemen.

– A maximum six hours per day, with a maximum two hours on field for any player.

– 7-on-7, 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills will be permitted, providing no live contact takes place.

For the second time since 2007, the Raiders have apparently either exceeded the amount of contact deemed acceptable for the offseason or practiced too long. The joint statement by the NFL and NFLPA did not specify Oakland’s violation and the Raiders have had no comment. Oakland head coach Tom Cable was the offensive line coach the last time the Raiders lost OTA time.

Oakland joins the Baltimore Ravens as the second team to lose OTA sessions. Violations typically are reported through the union, with the NFL then requesting practice film with the offending team obliged to produce it.

So as happy as Cable has been with the offseason turnout and as much as he believes everyone on the same page, a player or three had to deviate from the script to get the ball rolling for punishment to be meted out.

The Raiders have been pushing the two-hour limit in most of their offseason practices open to the media but cut Wednesday’s short by comparison, starting at 9:30 a.m. and finishing a little after 11 a.m.

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  • Raider E

    first biotches

  • Just Fire Baby

    Nothing wrong with being in a select group with the Ravens.

  • kvnbntly

    way to be on top of it there

  • Seymour Bush

    Why would anyone think the Raiders would be on the same page?

  • Just Fire Baby

    If your not cheating your not trying.

  • kvnbntly

    so where should the over under on houston for unsportsman like be this year 4?????

  • Coach on Wheels

    Pro Football Talk .com points out the no contact rule is often broken but rarely enforced. Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.

  • http://twitter.com Monsieur Madden Verite

    Beeecham and R8eray, vas te faire encule!

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg R8eray

    We should start practicing with the Ravens!

  • fat kidd

    Darrius Heyward-Bey has reportedly out-practiced Louis Murphy throughout each of the Raiders’ last two OTAs.

    Heyward-Bey “dusted” speedy rookie Walter McFadden on a 20+ yard end-zone strike from Jason Campbell Wednesday, and has mostly avoided drops. DHB isn’t on the fantasy radar, but is worth tracking for his big-play potential.
    Source: Oakland Tribune

    Nice to hear, but gameday is where I want to see it. Hopefully it does translate to gameday.

  • Silver-n-Black-666

    COW its been a while how the hell are you?

    Fat kid take a break you must be out of breath breathing heavy all over my posts.

    Its not very manly to try and talk like your a tough guy on the internet makes you look weak and pathetic.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    Maybe they and McClain can create a new physical vibe for the Defense.

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg R8eray

    a GRACEFUL TAUNT….

  • Just Fire Baby

    Having guys that want to fight and get after people will be a welcome addition to the defense.

    Our defensive captain and MLB was a fashion diva the last 6 years.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.
    ———————
    There you go, making excuses and placing blame on others, for that organization’s actions.

  • the_big_one_of_83

    this rule is gay these guys get paid more than a doctor and the pres but cant practice to hard BS

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg R8eray

    2 violations in 3 years is not enough…1-2 violations in one year is the quota! We gotta do something different around here…get this team back to .500 football (at least)!

  • http://Noknuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    The player that “unexpectedly” gets cut before training camp is the snitch..

  • fat kidd

    Silver-n-Black-666 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    COW its been a while how the hell are you?

    Fat kid take a break you must be out of breath breathing heavy all over my posts.

    Its not very manly to try and talk like your a tough guy on the internet makes you look weak and pathetic.

    ……………………lets not talk lets walk the walk i am not called fat kidd cause i am small,so i if i come to your game section and you identify yourself i promise not to breathe heavy when i pull your lungs out of your chest scabbie

  • the_big_one_of_83

    if u pick in the top ten they should let u practice as hard as u can

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # Coach on Wheels Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Pro Football Talk .com points out the no contact rule is often broken but rarely enforced. Either the Raiders have more crybabies playing for them or the league is focusing on them to have 2 violations in 3 years.
    ________________________________________________________

    I dont believe the league is focusing more on a single team ore than others, and they need video proof to make their point, so I think its crybabies…

    COW, good to see you back, im on another schedule these days so im not that often here late at night…

    I really fear we used Schilens too early and forced him on field, I fear his legs will implode this season again… Hope im wrong..

  • kvnbntly

    KoolKell Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    sounds a bit ournery, right after the raiders got seymoure a pat fan was on here saying “its amazing what he can do when he’s pissed” and the monday game agianst sd proved him right. maybe houston can keep him fired up

  • the_big_one_of_83

    of the draft

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg R8eray

    D-A-D?

  • http://twitter.com Monsieur Madden Verite

    The snitch was probably Russell.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # R8eray Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    D-A-D?
    _______________________________________________________

    Disneyland After Dark??

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    The_big_one_of_83 Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    this rule is gay these guys get paid more than a doctor and the pres but cant practice to hard BS
    ————————-
    “too hard”

    I never hear people complain about the salaries of anybody, except athletes, particularly those of a certain class. “non-deserving” ones.

    Yet you get your asz ripped from throat to crotch everyday by Corporate America, while you subsidize their massive profits with your tax-dollar. Suckers. Bait & Switch.

  • http://twitter.com Monsieur Madden Verite

    Beeecham, pourquoi vous êtes si retardé?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Way to read between the lines KoolKell and pull the race card.

    Do you act this way in the real world?

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    I kinda like what I’m hearing about Houston. Seymour seems to have a nasty streak too.

    sounds a bit ournery, right after the raiders got seymoure a pat fan was on here saying “its amazing what he can do when he’s pissed” and the monday game agianst sd proved him right. maybe houston can keep him fired up
    ________________________________________________________

    doesnt help much if it mean Houston and Seymour gets penalized, that will only hurt the team, and we are already way to much penalized on the field..

  • fat kidd

    NFL Network Schedule JUNE 13 2:30 PM EST .NFL REPLAY: 2009 WEEK 13 – OAK vs. PIT Oakland Raiders vs. Pittsburgh Steelers (12/06/09) – Scoring 21 points in the fourth quarter, the Raiders hand the defending champion Steelers their fourth straight loss. With less than two minutes remaining, Gradkowski compiles an 88-yard drive resulting in the winning score

  • kvnbntly

    true i suppose, lol this last ota being suspended sucks. i waas really hoping seynoure would show for the last one

  • the_big_one_of_83

    doesnt help much if it mean Houston and Seymour gets penalized, that will only hurt the team, and we are already way to much penalized on the field..

    this is very true butkeep those guys fired up

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Il est Retarde.

  • Just Fire Baby

    88 yard drive!!!!

    How many of those did we have last year? 2? 3?

    Let’s hope Jacoby can do a little better than get it past the 12 at the end of games.

  • MistaBrown

    KKKell, no mention of the DOW since you slithered back in here ?

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    true i suppose, lol this last ota being suspended sucks. i waas really hoping seynoure would show for the last one
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, are you typing this on you phone or what?

    well they are entitled to 14 OTA days, and no team uses them all, so if you have a smart team you plan for 14 OTA days, in case you get penalized, then you have days to spare =) just in case it gets a bit too wild =)

  • kvnbntly

    jason campbell vs saints is the first game this weekend, then oak and pitt, followed by dallas and nyg. all three games raider fans should watch. the dallas game just to see if flojob adams still has much left i believe he’s still a free agent.

  • Just Fire Baby

    That was Campbell’s best game of the year.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Mistabrown…

    you looked up what an analogy means? last time you didnt know the difference between an example and an analogy…

    btw, just keep on lying, many guys here will get you caught in the act, so just keep it on…

  • kvnbntly

    naw just not a profecient typer or speller, thats what happens in idaho when ya get too old to run up and down mountiamns, you get a job dumping trucks in a grain elevator

  • Just Fire Baby

    Also during that few weeks were the Saints struggled and lost a few games and played down to their opponent.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Oliver Stone is about to make a chumy-feely movie on Hugo.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # kvnbntly Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    naw just not a profecient typer or speller, thats what happens in idaho when ya get too old to run up and down mountiamns, you get a job dumping trucks in a grain elevator
    ________________________________________________________

    Fair enough, I’ll let it go then =) sorry =)

  • kvnbntly

    what do you suppose houston called satele “pineapple head” ???? lol

  • the_big_one_of_83

    well if ford stays higgins i think will be traded with watkins

  • MistaBrown

    Pres Barback 0bama should kick his own ass for being a incompetent finger pointing derelict.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Not sure if there would be much of a market for a soon to be released #4 WR.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    well im out of here, you enjoy your obama talks… its nearly 0200 so im heading home soon, see ya gents take care and the c1owns as well..

  • fat kidd

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    Pres Barback 0bama should kick his own ass for being a incompetent finger pointing derelict.

    ………………finally a pres who will kick ass and take names,instead of i dont know let me ask dick cheney