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Raiders could get stationary target

Ordnarily, a first-time offender in the eyes of the NFL gets the benefit of the doubt.

However, it’s conceivable Tennessee quarterback Vince Young could ride Ben Roethlisberger’s coat tails and be slapped with a one-game suspension _ meaning he’d miss the season opener against the Raiders.

Young was 8-2 as a starter after replacing Kerry Collins for the Titans last season, reviving a career that appeared dead in the water because of personal issues and poor play. An alleged assault caught on film at a strip club at 3:30 a.m. may be enough for Commissioner Roger Goodell to follow up the six-game Roethlisberger hammer and put Young out of action.

Collins is a more dangerous medium range and deep thrower than Young but much easier to prepare for considering the Raiders will have an entirely new corps of linebackers. They can play run or pass, and not be concerned with a quarterback which can get them out of position with his feet.

Add to that the status of running back Chris Johnson, the 2,000-yard running back who could sit out much of training camp in a contract dispute, and the Raiders timing appears good.

Chat scheduled for 1 p.m. today . . .

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  • Jonesy941

    kobe said hes done with the lakers he is going to come play for the raiders as our new wide receiver!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Gruden is 0-2 against us? Surely you’re not counting Super Bowl 37.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
    I would give Al Davis credit if he would just do something worth giving him credit for…

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    Well, he passed on Clausen! Genius! But he did draft DMAC. Al can be an idiot at times, I admit.

  • DeuceDeuce

    Jonesy941 Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
    kobe said hes done with the lakers he is going to come play for the raiders as our new wide receiver!

    I thought they dont allow gays in the NFL..

  • RaiderRockstar

    kobe said hes done with the lakers he is going to come play for the raiders as our new wide receiver!

    ***

    no room!

    Dakota, Jhill & BSJ are sold on Nick Miller as the 6th man

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    You want to talk about bombing, look at what the Raiders have done after that Super Bowl.

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    And they would have done at least as bad with Gruden. The roster was ancient by 2003, and Gruden cannot develop young players.

    ……………………

    Down to wouldas, couldas and shouldas now, huh?

  • DeuceDeuce

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    Gruden is 0-2 against us? Surely you’re not counting Super Bowl 37.

    Reading is fundamental dumbass…
    “and as bad as the Raiders have been since that Super Bowl…..Gruden is 0-2 against us…..oh no’s…..”

  • RaiderRockstar

    LOL @ DeuceDeuce #154

    Agreed

  • DeuceDeuce

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
    Down to wouldas, couldas and shouldas now, huh?

    —-
    Isnt that what your down to everytime you talk about if we WOULDA kept Gruden….or WOULDA kept Kiffin….or SHOULDA drafted this guy and not that guy….

  • Jonesy941

    f nick miller in the A$$ we should get an extra roster spot this season cuz his retard A$$

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Someone who was at Super Bowl 37 in SD said they saw a guy in a Raider shirt running around and asking, “It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?”, when the game was over.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Down to wouldas, couldas and shouldas now, huh?

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    Hmmm, Gruden WOULDA kept his job if he COULDA beat the Raiders like you seem to think he SHOULDA.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    I think MR is just skeptical that Al Davis could possibly field a decent team since Al has been in a 26 year funk.

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    Thats a bit much. There were some very good teams in that period. Does funk mean not winning a SB? If so, Green Bay, Dallas, San Diego, San Fran, etc. are also in a decade-long funk.
    +++++++++++

    Getting blown out by the Bills in the AFC championship game and by TB in the SB just doesn’t float my boat. I don’t care about those other team’s problems…Al sold me on the whole team of the decades, commitment to excellence line of BS =25 years ago and he has dissapointed me year in and year out. He keeps things exciting, sure, he is just no longer capable of winning SBs.

    As a Lakers fan you should know that finishing second means nothing.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    LOL Deuce Deuce beat me to the punch!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jonesy941: Agreed

    Nick Miller is done in Oakland. he won’t make the final 53, even if we keep a 6th WR

    Watkins, Holland & Figurs will fight for the last spot (if we keep a 6th)

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    As a Lakers fan you should know that finishing second means nothing.

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    And as a Cubs and Notre Dame fan you should know that winning is not the only reason to be one.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    Someone who was at Super Bowl 37 in SD said they saw a guy in a Raider shirt running around and asking, “It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?”, when the game was over.

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    Oh, you were there?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    It’s just that Bo’s pretending to be a historian today. Surprising to see him delve into the wouldas and couldas, that’s all.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    Someone who was at Super Bowl 37 in SD said they saw a guy in a Raider shirt running around and asking, “It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?”, when the game was over.

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    Oh, you were there?

    ++++++++

    BURN!

  • DeuceDeuce

    nice backpedal….whats your 40? might have a future as a DB

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Al Davis is in the way of the Raiders winning…he must go down and he must go down hard.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RRS, I will bet you that Nick Miller lasts longer on the roster than Figurs. Practice squad doesn’t count.

    The loser has to call HQ and ask to speak with GM Danny Southwick…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    It’s funny to see Raider fans mock *other* GMs.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    Al Davis is in the way of the Raiders winning…he must go down and he must go down hard.

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    Speaking of DMAC…

  • HayesDaze37

    Immediately following the Super Bowl disaster against TB…MOST of us REAL FANS were, and are, the same fans we used to be. All-in, all of the time, and hoping for the best for our team…and not allowing the whines of the weak, weak-minded, or hate-driven to alter our allegiance.

    Tough times??? Everybody goes through ‘em. Tough people and teams (and fans), survive them without much more lost than pride and ticket sales. Legacies can be rebuilt, if that is even necessary. The winning Raiders will be back — may be back as early as this year, even — and the fans who survived these times with them will be stronger for it.

    A strength and satisfaction that the sycophants (MR, KK, et al) will never know.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I will bet you that Nick Miller lasts longer on the roster than Figurs. Practice squad doesn’t count.

    The loser has to call HQ and ask to speak with GM Danny Southwick…

    ***

    deal!

    wait, what if they both fail to make the final 53 ???

  • RaiderRockstar

    BSJ: you should have bet me on that T-storm headed towards Podunk last night

    never happened

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Immediately following the Super Bowl disaster against TB…MOST of us REAL FANS were, and are, the same fans we used to be. All-in, all of the time, and hoping for the best for our team…and not allowing the whines of the weak, weak-minded, or hate-driven to alter our allegiance.

    Tough times??? Everybody goes through ‘em. Tough people and teams (and fans), survive them without much more lost than pride and ticket sales. Legacies can be rebuilt, if that is even necessary. The winning Raiders will be back — may be back as early as this year, even — and the fans who survived these times with them will be stronger for it.

    A strength and satisfaction that the sycophants (MR, KK, et al) will never know.
    ++++++++++

    Sure, the Raiders deserve that loyalty…Al Davis doesn’t.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    I will bet you that Nick Miller lasts longer on the roster than Figurs. Practice squad doesn’t count.

    The loser has to call HQ and ask to speak with GM Danny Southwick…

    ***

    deal!

    wait, what if they both fail to make the final 53 ???

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    You mean cut on the same day? Maybe Reece vs. Condo can be a tiebreaker…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    What you’re not getting HayesDaze, is that the Raiders did not “survive” that loss. 7 years later, they still haven’t gotten on their feet. They haven’t won more than 5 games in a season. Gone through countless head coaches and quarterbacks. They haven’t even won 3 games straight. So, the truth is, not everyone bounces back from tough losses. Some people stay down, forever. And Al is one of them, it looks like.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    BSJ: you should have bet me on that T-storm headed towards Podunk last night

    never happened

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    Must have stayed to the east of Springfield…looked like a sure thing. I have been known to err on the radar thing though… just ask my golfing buddies :(

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    I mean west of Springfield. Joplin-ish.

  • HayesDaze37

    And…yes, even at that fateful Super Bowl, I probably did walk around saying, “It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?”

    Like all in the Raiders family, I was numb…but not numb in the brain (or heart) enough to let it change my loyalties. Honor and pride last a lot longer than 60 minutes of football played on game days.

    Proud to be a Raiders fan. Proud of Al Davis for NEVER GIVING UP. Proud to see MY Oakland Raiders rebuilt…and anxious to see all their hard work pay off.

    It IS a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The misinformed have sadly coupled Al Davis to the Raiders. Al Davis is nothing but a temporary owner who will eventually be gone and the Raiders will move forward without him.

    If Al Davis was a CEO he would have been ousted years ago. If he was the GM of another team he would have been fired in the 1990s.

    Al is nothing but an impediment and someone for you old guys to look fondly back on and remember him for his great run more than a quarter century ago…good for you, now just get Al out of our way please.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    So what did I learn today…that Tyvon Branch hits as hard as Jack Tatum and that the Glaziers actually wanted Tressman and not Gruden. Always a laugh in here. Later.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Al Davis is nothing but a temporary owner who will eventually be gone and the Raiders will move forward without him.

    :::::::::::::::::::::

    PLEASE NO!!!!!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Al Davis is to blame for it all. Our team, which once was the model franchise (27 years ago), has now become the standard bearer for the bottom dwellers of the NFL. Outside of expansion teams, the last 7 years of Raiders football has been possibly the worst, most pathetic showing an NFL team has ever had. We have not had the players, the coaches or the leadership that is required to pull us out of this slump.

    Who do I think is to blame? Everyone to an extent, I guess, but there is one constant through it all; Al Davis. It is his team, he makes all of the decisions, he is in complete control of this franchise so how can he not take the blame for the current state of his franchise? He IS THE RAIDERS as some of you are fond of stating. Let’s check the facts all of you Al supporters have been touting.

    This is his track record since 1990:

    Team Record: 132-172

    AFC West Championships: 3 in 19 seasons

    Super Bowls: 0-1

    Coaches: He hired six losers: , Art Shell, Bugle, White, Callahan, Turner, Tom Cable; and one winner: Gruden. Then traded the winner. And don’t forget Al sabotaging the entire 2008 season simply to build a case against Lane Kiffin.

    He drafted these losers in the critical first three rounds : Russell, Huff, Routt, McQuistan, Fabian, Gallery, Grove, Schweigert, Brayton, Teyo, Buchanon, Harris, Jolley, Gibson, Grant, Jano, Porter, Ioane, Stinchcomb, Bryant, D. Russell, Kohn, Dudley, Aska, Folston, Calvin Jones, Patrick Bates, Hobert, McGlockton, Skrepenek, Marinovich.

    He drafted these decent to good players: Morrison, Nnamdi, Fargas (only recently played well), Lechler, Woodson, Kaufman, Robbins. Only Robbins, Woodson and Lechler have been perennial pro bowlers. No Hall of Famers in this list.

    Moves: He moved the team from LA to Oakland and it blew up in his face.

    QBs: Schroeder, Marinovich, Hostetler, George, Gannon, Collins, Brooks and Russell: This is one of Al’s strong points. Schroeder, Hoss, George, Gannon and Collins all had decent stats, but did not always lead the team to victory outside of Gannon.

    If you check the facts it is pretty obvious that Al Davis has not performed up to expectations, especially his own expectations over the past 19 seasons or so. The game has moved beyond him. He needs to hire a GM to help him with his decision making; it is clear from the FACTS that Al Davis no longer has the ability to run an NFL franchise PERIOD. No super bowl victories, disgusting draft record, poor choices of head coaches, poor AFC West record, poor overall record, poor decision making in terms of moving his franchise…it all adds up. Pull your heads out of the sand and look at the stark, cold reality of the situation.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    If the Lakers lose tonight I want Mitch Kokchap fired. Artest has been a bust.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Maybe Reece vs. Condo can be a tiebreaker…

    ***

    LOL, alright

    go Condo!

  • DeuceDeuce

    My 53 man roster….
    QB – CAMPBELL / GRADKOWSKI / BOLLER
    RB – RUN DMC / BUSH / CARTWRIGHT / BENNETT
    FB – LAWTON / REECE
    WR – SCHILLENS / DHB / MURPHY / JLH / FORD / MILLER
    TE – MILLER / MYERS / STEWART
    OT – HENDERSON / WALKER / VELDHEER / PEARS
    OG – GALLERY / CARLISLE / BARNES / CAMPBELL
    C – SATELE / MORRIS
    DE – SEYMOUR / HOUSTON / SHAUGHNESSY / RICHARDSON
    DT – KELLY / HENDERSON / BRYANT /
    OLB – WIMBLEY / SCOTT / HOWARD / GROVES / EKUIJIBA
    MLB – MCCLAIN / BROWN /
    CB – ASOMUGHA / JOHNSON / ROUTT / MCFADDEN
    S – HUFF / BRANCH / MITCHELL / EUGENE
    K – JANIKOWSI / LECHLER
    LS – CONDO
    Practice Squad….
    S – STEVIE BROWN
    CB – JEREMY WARE
    DE – ALEX DANIELS
    DT – KELLEN HEARD
    G – ALEX PARSONS
    FB – CHASE MOLINE
    WR – DAMOLA ADENIJI

    IDK..

  • HayesDaze37

    Al’s done as Al will do.

    The Raiders have done pretty well since Al Davis CREATED the Raiders as we knew them, and as we know them now.

    As far as I know, in the good old USA (right, LMN?!)…a guy who OWNS his creation, has the right to do with it what he pleases. And what he pleases, is to stay in the mix. He created the mix, he still gets to stir it.

    Al Davis is THE Man. Weird? Quirky?? Nutty??? What great man ever WASN’T some or all of those things? What great man ever just rolled over and accepted failure without trying to right his wrongs? Al never quits, and there’s much to be said right there.

    Al Davis was, and is, great for the NFL. Long live Al!

  • DeuceDeuce

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    So what did I learn today…that Tyvon Branch hits as hard as Jack Tatum and that the Glaziers actually wanted Tressman and not Gruden. Always a laugh in here. Later.

    —-
    You learned that it is true…you are indeed a b**ch. And dodged and avoided all the points I called you on. You, your momma, daddy…..your whole family…I hate em all….lol

  • RaiderRockstar

    avoided all the points I called you on. You, your momma, daddy…..your whole family…I hate em all

    ***

    DeuceDeuce: do you hate the cousin MR wants to get it on with ???

  • DeuceDeuce

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 15th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    avoided all the points I called you on. You, your momma, daddy…..your whole family…I hate em all

    ***

    DeuceDeuce: do you hate the cousin MR wants to get it on with ???

    Ya I hate that guy too…lol

  • DeuceDeuce

    I traveled back in time to call ya a cracka….

  • DeuceDeuce

    The Real MaddenRaider listens to Coldplay….

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Real MaddenRaider listens to Coldplay….

    ***

    I thought it was Culture Club?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Jerry is on crack:

    jerrymac: Shaughnessy, Kelly, Henderson or Bryant, JRich (on 1st down)

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Kim Jong Al?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Kim Jong Al….I LOVE IT!