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Lakers, Asomugha, bowl over Celtics, Cable

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, June 18th, 2010 at 12:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A few notes during the lull before the Raiders begin to sign their draft picks and in between filing stories and preparing for the Allan Green-Andre Ward WBA super middleweight title fight Saturday night at Orcale Arena:

– According to EGA Sports, Raiders cornerback and avid Lakers fan Nnamdi Asomugha won a bet with coach and longtime Celtics fan Tom Cable after Los Angeles beat Boston in seven games Thursday night.

As the loser, Cable will treat the entire team to dinner and bowling at some point during training camp.

– Had the Raiders opened their final organized team activity to the public, sentiment among the players probably would have been similar to that of the Jacksonville Jaguars, the latest team to be docked a couple of OTA sessions.

“We’re looking to push the envelope,” safety Sean Considine said. “If you do that, you’re going to come close to breaking those (OTA) rules. If we pushed it too far, then we’re going to suffer the consequences. I don’t think anybody’s worried about who called the (player) union or turned us in.

“Losing those last two OTAs isn’t going to have anything to do with how we do this season. There’s a message behind that (NFL ruling) that you can find a positive out of it.”

Baltimore and Detroit were the other two teams besides Oakland and Jacksonville to lose OTA time.

It’s no coincidence that player complaints appear to be on the rise given the status of negotiations between the union and ownership for a new collective bargaining agreement.

– The Web site “Cold, Hard Football Facts” analyzes the stunning decline of the Raiders passing game since Super Bowl XXXVII.

Their conclusions? Part of JaMarcus Russell’s problems was the organization he played for and that Al Davis has clearly lost his fastball.

– Profootballtalk.com is reporting Russell could end up in the UFL with the new Omaha franchise. And then later reported Russell woudln’t be going to the UFL after all, instead staying in Arizona to get in shape and refine his mechanics.

Too bad. Raiders fans wishing to relive the good ol’ days with Russell could have traveled to Sacramento to see him Nov. 13 against Daunte Culpepper, Dennis Green and the Sacramento Mountain Lions.

– The wheels of NFL justice are turning regarding Vince Young. A one-game suspension for Young means he won’t face the Raiders in the regular season opener.

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  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    That Laker game last night was too stressful with an s-load of money riding on it. I want to thank the refs and Ron Artest for assuring that I won a fistful of cash.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I want to thank the refs and Ron Artest for assuring that I won a fistful of cash.

    ***

    LOL. thats what I’m saying …

    hows it going Dogg?

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Rockstar

    Not bad at all, ready for a packed Fathers Day weekend.

    How you living on this Friday afternoon?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    How did the refs help the Lakers last night? By not calling the obvious travel on Rondo late in the game?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Which one of you cowards is afraid to pop up with your alias 3 Minute Lyle and take your medicine?

  • ottocrat

    Albert Haynesworth is the reincarnation of Darrel Russel. A guy who knows how to talk, and sounds smart. But, in reality, is a gigantic dumbass with zero character.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    There is an entirely different ball game going on when you have no heart invested in either team. Although I was rooting for the Lakers cuz of a bet, I noticed they were getting some breaks, more so it seemed than the Celtics. For the first time in my life I was on the good side of the breaks and, I have to admit, it felt really good.

    Congrats on the Ring homie, enjoy it while you can cuz the Warriors are going to DESTROY fools now that they have a new logo!

  • Jonesy941

    the lakers helped themselves to a Championship!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Not bad at all, ready for a packed Fathers Day weekend.

    How you living on this Friday afternoon?

    ***

    Dogg: same man, same

    booked all weekend. wanted to relax, but it ain’t happening

    wanted to get some stuff done at home. mow, clean out the pool, stain the deck – no time

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    The Rap Is A Joke dudes from East Bay Sick squashed the beef with Dirt Nasty and Andy Milonakis long enough to do a track together. Y’all ain’t ready for this, not for the easily offended:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-NWtS4AHc

  • fat kidd

    JaMarcus Russell could be joining the UFL
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 18, 2010 8:38 AM ET
    Last month, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reported that former Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell won’t be playing in the AFL or the CFL.

    In the end, Russell could be landing in the UFL.

    A source with knowledge of the situation tells us that the expansion Omaha Nighthawks could be signing Russell, who would team up with running back Ahman Green in the team’s backfield.

    There’s still a long way to go before Russell would actually join the team, the internal discussions have begun, and they will continue.

    He’d become the second former first-round NFL quarterback to join the five-team league for 2010. Recently, Daunte Culpepper agreed to terms with the Sacramento Mountain Lions.

    Russell presumably is holding out hope for an NFL job. But he ultimately needs to ask himself whether it makes more sense to hold a clipboard on game days — or actually get live reps against guys who are good but not great football players.

    Or maybe he just wants the steaks

  • jwiggle

    only thing I can think of might me his stance on Kobe Bryant and the Colorado “incident”

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    Yeah that was it.

    I scrolled back up and it was awaiting moderation.

    J Hill hasn’t been able to post ever since.

    J Hill doesn’t know how to email the mod and get him to see the error of his ways.

    8D

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Rockstar

    I feel you bro, I’ve got family in the East Bay all day tomorrow including a East Bay Sick set at a Festival in Danville called California Dreamin, then Sunday I am taking my kid to see Toy Story 3 followed by family all day then dinner at Johhny Garlics. I took Monday off so I can chill when everyone else is outta the house.

  • HairyBush

    Kevin Mawae rips Albert Haynesworth
    In case you haven’t heard enough people ripping Albert Haynesworth, let’s listen briefly to Kevin Mawae, who’s not only the NFL Players Association president but also was Haynesworth’s teammate in Tennessee from 2006 to 2008.

    Mawae, currently a free agent, appeared on Sirius radio with Bryan McGovern and Gil Brandt Thursday night and didn’t hold back.

    “You talk about someone putting a mask on and going in backwards to get his paycheck,” Mawae said. “I mean, if you don’t want to be there, don’t take the $21 million contract. How things turned out, it’s no surprise to guys that have played with him in Tennessee. You know, what do you say?

    “I mean, you’re getting paid a ton of money to play less and you’re complaining about it,” he continued. “At the end of the day, it’s one thing to be a football player and get paid lots of money, but there’s a whole lot more to be said about being a man. You know, he’s a [inaudible] player when he wants to be and he can be one of the best in the league and I’ve said that to him in his face before. But to this point he doesn’t want to do it on a consistent basis.”

    “At some point in time in the game, you know, you got to do what’s right for yourself and what’s right for you and your family. I think $32 million guaranteed in one year pretty much takes care of those issues. I think the other issues go beyond the football field.”

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    This article is for those of you who still want Haynesworth (AKA another Meangelo hall)

  • jwiggle

    I want to thank the refs

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    In a game where they clearly let everyone play, I can’t see how that helped the Lakers.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Dogg,

    There were questionable calls both ways throughout the series…very poor officiating.

    That new logo might be the missing ingredient for the Ws though fo sho.

  • jwiggle

    Mawae is babbling …

    The only issue is Haynesworth not wanting to play in the 3-4 defense which was made clear during his FA trips.

    Amazing that FORMER Tenn players are still bitter that a FREE AGENT chose to go elsewhere, lol!

  • jwiggle

    wanted to get some stuff done at home. mow, clean out the pool, stain the deck – no time

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    Run down to the local Homey Depot and pick up some $10/hr labor.

  • HairyBush

    jwiggle Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
    Mawae is babbling …

    The only issue is Haynesworth not wanting to play in the 3-4 defense which was made clear during his FA trips.

    Amazing that FORMER Tenn players are still bitter that a FREE AGENT chose to go elsewhere, lol!
    —————————————-
    If you truly believe that is Haynesworth’s only issue I don’t know what to tell you. (well I kind of do)

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Come on guys, the numbers tell the whole story. The Lakers shot 37 free throws to the Celtics 17. That’s more than double the fouls shots yet the officiating wasn’t questionable? Some of you Laker fans need to remove your championship colored lenses long enough to look at REAL STATS instead of basing your opinion on your heart.

    You guys won, with a little help from your friends. It helped me get paid but I am not going to deny what I saw with my own OBJECTIVE eyes, not blinded by any loyalty to either team.

    The ONLY cool Laker fan that I know is Dakota and he deserves this ring. All the rest of you are just trippin hahahahaha

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    Dogg,

    There were questionable calls both ways throughout the series…very poor officiating.

    That new logo might be the missing ingredient for the Ws though fo sho.”

    Speaking of questionable calls, did you see the USA get screwed today on that 3rd goal? I have never been so pissed off at a soccer game in my life.

  • jwiggle

    If you truly believe that is Haynesworth’s only issue

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    Ok …

    Go ahead and enlighted us as to what Haynesworth’s other issues are that have him holding out of camp?

    And then tell me why they are so reluctant to trade him?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Dogg, as a studied NBA fan as yourself knows full well, when a team attacks the basket they get more foul calls. The Lakers attacked the basket last night while the Celtics settled for jump shots…that has little or nothing to do with the refs.

  • jwiggle

    The ONLY cool Laker fan that I know is Dakota

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    Ouch!

    Stats ????

    Lakers shot more FTs because they were the aggresors in the paint. Wallace, KG, and Allen did nothing but shoot jump shots. Rondo was not going to the hole. Pierce was constantly on the line because he was the only one going to the rack.

  • HairyBush

    RaiderDogg Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    Come on guys, the numbers tell the whole story. The Lakers shot 37 free throws to the Celtics 17. That’s more than double the fouls shots yet the officiating wasn’t questionable? Some of you Laker fans need to remove your championship colored lenses long enough to look at REAL STATS instead of basing your opinion on your heart.

    You guys won, with a little help from your friends. It helped me get paid but I am not going to deny what I saw with my own OBJECTIVE eyes, not blinded by any loyalty to either team.

    The ONLY cool Laker fan that I know is Dakota and he deserves this ring. All the rest of you are just trippin hahahahaha
    —————————-
    Dogg: I am a Celtic fan from Ma, and I have to say there were games I would blame the officals and last night wasn’t one of them. It pains me to say it but it’s the truth. 90% of the fouls were legit. One major foul missed at a crucial time was when Gasol travled and it wasn’t called. Anyways I was hoping for one more ring for my boys but I think this is the last year you see this group together. (minus Rivers and Allen probaly) It was a hard fought game.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    The reason the Lakers won last night is because of rebounds, offensive rebounds to be exact. They dominated both sides because the Celtics have no big man worth a crap.

    I am winking at you cuz you know I am just stirring the pot with that refs comment ;)

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Lakers need to trade Mbenga and Powell to the Griz for Marc Gasol.

    Yeah baby!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Oakglenn,

    Why are you keeping your 3 Minute Lyle persona under wraps today?

  • HairyBush

    jwiggle Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    If you truly believe that is Haynesworth’s only issue

    ——————————————————-

    Ok …

    Go ahead and enlighted us as to what Haynesworth’s other issues are that have him holding out of camp?

    And then tell me why they are so reluctant to trade him?
    —————————
    I am not a know at all by any means. I just believe he is a selfish headcase that was looking for a payday. Does he have skills? sure he does and so does Randy Moss. You see my point?
    They aren’t reluctant to trade him, the fact is his trade value deminishes daily. Most teams are aware he will probaly get released and if they really want him they can have him without giving up anything IMO

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    this is Kobe’s new theme song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-NWtS4AHc

    ok that is all the sh1t talking from me today.

    Laker fans – I only mess with you cuz I like you, or at least some of you ;)

  • jwiggle

    One major foul missed at a crucial time was when Gasol travled and it wasn’t called.

    ——————————————————-

    Pierce blocked his shot, actually should have been a jump ball.

  • Legacy510

    MJ dominated an era when the NBA was a water-down league with little to no competition. Magic went up against the Celtics, 76ers, and Pistons….all of which were much better teams with better players than the Sonics, Jazz, Suns or Blazers by far.
    _________________________________________________________

    Dakota you’ve obviously forgotten when MJ torched Bird and the Celtics in the playoffs for 63 points, which prompted Larry Bird to refer to Michael as “God in basketball shoes.”

    MJ is a Bentley Continental GT. Kobe is a Chrysler 300E. From a distance they look similar, but when you look closely, they’re not even close to being the same. Dakota you should know better.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    In terms of the Tom Cable disgust level, it now reads like this:

    #1. Celtics Fan
    #2. Addmitted Wife Beater
    #3. Horrible Offensive Coordinator
    #4. Loser Head Coach (20-54 seriously!)

  • RaiderRockstar

    Kevin Mawae rips Albert Haynesworth

    ***

    safe to say the Raiders will only target 1 of these players (if any)

  • Legacy510

    Just for clarification…
    The comment I referenced in my post #82 was made by Dakota of course.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I thought the officials were on point until about the last 4 minutes of the game.

    The Pau shot was a travel, or at worst a jumpball. His feet were clearly on the ground prior to the shot.

    Than there was two 50/50 charge/block calls I thought that both went the Lakers way. The Kobe one that was ‘Sheeds’ 6th foul, and the block on PP by Gasol when he was hurrying it over the halfcourt line to avoid an 8 second call.

    Either way, Celtics get a couple more boards and make a couple more shots and it doesn’t matter. Plus, that’s what home-court is for, you are going to get those calls at home.

  • jwiggle

    Haynesworth getting released ????

    I can’t see that happening.

    As for looking him looking for a payday, he was a free agent who was the best DT on the market. A LOT of teams wanted him, including Tenn. Washington set a record for $ paid when they signed him. That’s not his fault, is it?

    I’d like to know an instance of when he hasn’t showed up for a game? Hasn’t been dominant? Other than when he was injured, of course.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    A big and early Happy Father’s Day to all of you dads out there handling your business. Good work.

    And I’m out…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Legacy510 Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    MJ dominated an era when the NBA was a water-down league with little to no competition. Magic went up against the Celtics, 76ers, and Pistons….all of which were much better teams with better players than the Sonics, Jazz, Suns or Blazers by far.
    _________________________________________________________

    Dakota you’ve obviously forgotten when MJ torched Bird and the Celtics in the playoffs for 63 points, which prompted Larry Bird to refer to Michael as “God in basketball shoes.”

    MJ is a Bentley Continental GT. Kobe is a Chrysler 300E. From a distance they look similar, but when you look closely, they’re not even close to being the same. Dakota you should know better.
    +++++++++++

    Lol, who one that series? Larry had a tendancy to compliment his competitors. MJ never sniffed the championship until the Lakers, Celtics and Pistons got old and injured. That is a fact. You should know better. MJ had to go through who in the east? The Knicks lol

  • Plunketthead

    Pistol Pete makes them all look like boots.

  • fat kidd

    Snooki” from Jersey Shore says cable will be coach of the year.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Who WON that series…

  • Just Fire Baby

    Didn’t the Bulls lose the game when Jordan scored 63?

    Interesting stat they said at halftime yesterday. MJ shot over 50% for the entire playoffs 4 times or something like that, Kobe has never done it.

  • HairyBush

    jwiggle Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    Haynesworth getting released ????

    I can’t see that happening.

    As for looking him looking for a payday, he was a free agent who was the best DT on the market. A LOT of teams wanted him, including Tenn. Washington set a record for $ paid when they signed him. That’s not his fault, is it?

    I’d like to know an instance of when he hasn’t showed up for a game? Hasn’t been dominant? Other than when he was injured, of course
    ———————-
    If you are on this weekend we can continue this-gotta run

  • jwiggle

    MJ is a Bentley Continental GT. Kobe is a Chrysler 300E.

    ——————————————————-

    Kobe is going to end his career as the all time leading scorer even though his early years were wasted holding up Shaq O Neal.

    All time leading scorer, 6-8 rings, better jumper, more versatile defender, better handle, and he’s a 300E????

    You do remember Jordan missing 20 shots in the utah game and then getting away with pushing Russell to end that last finals game, right?

  • Plunketthead

    Tiger told me snooki has herpes and a bucketgina

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 18th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    I thought the officials were on point until about the last 4 minutes of the game.

    The Pau shot was a travel, or at worst a jumpball. His feet were clearly on the ground prior to the shot. (might have a point there, but just moments later the Refs made it up by not calling the clear Rondo travel)

    Than there was two 50/50 charge/block calls I thought that both went the Lakers way. The Kobe one that was ‘Sheeds’ 6th foul, (Yeah right, I have heard that sometimes the hand is part of the ball, but I have never heard that the forearm is part of the ball, he CLEARLY hacked Kobe’s forearm)and the block on PP by Gasol when he was hurrying it over the halfcourt line to avoid an 8 second call (PP was clearly not set….that means it is a blocking foul).

  • Just Fire Baby

    Dakota,

    The point being, they were all very close calls, and they ALL went in favor of the Lakers.

    But I do say, you win the most games in the regular season, you should get something, and the prize is game 7 at home, with the well-known bias that NBA refs always have for the home team.

  • jwiggle

    Bottom line is the Cs lost because Garnett and Wallace were gassed about halfway through the 3rd qtr. That is why they were fouling so much to end the game. You could clearly see them sucking eggs. Surprised Garnett didn’t throw up on the court.

  • RaiderRockstar

    As for looking him looking for a payday, he was a free agent who was the best DT on the market. A LOT of teams wanted him, including Tenn. Washington set a record for $ paid when they signed him. That’s not his fault, is it?

    ***

    Agreed 100 percent. Fat Albert probably could have signed with a number of teams for big money

    if that team didn’t switch to a 3-4 defense, there wouldn’t be an issue right now …

    a switch from 4-3 to 3-4 or vice versa can ruin a players career, or at least season. Remember what Sapp looked like as a 3-4 DE? a huge waste of money. If we stayed with the 3-4 defense we would have ended up cutting him imo or watching him struggle game in & game out

    Albert wants to be a Pro Bowler. a dominant force inside and difference maker. who can blame him? thats what Snyder promised him (so we’re told) 1 year into it a new system is put into place and he’s asked to do somethign he’s never done before and theres a chance that could make him look like a bad player on the field and show up in his next contract (if there is one)

    rather get a bad wrap as a selfish player than stink it up on the field imo. look at Brandon Marshall