Seymour signs tender
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, June 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders announced on their Twitter account that defensive end Richard Seymour had signed his exclusive franchise tender, meaning all free agents are present and accounted for and should be to camp on time.
Next up for the Raiders is the process of getting rookies signed and into camp, something they’ve done extremely well with the lone exception of the JaMarcus Russell hold out. Last year’s top pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, missed just one practice while his agents were tying up loose ends.
In a year where restricted and unrestricted free agents aren’t signing tenders in the wake of an uncapped year and an ensuing collective bargaining agreement, the Raiders got all their RFAs in for offseason workouts and now will have Seymour in tow for Napa.
Seymour will make nearly $12.398 million on his tender but can still negotiate a long-term deal.
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June 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
He better sign the tender
June 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Excellent….
June 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
He needs to earn a long term deal…
June 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Gonna be a good season
June 19th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Al is back!
June 19th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
next up for the Raiders is the process of getting rookies signed and into camp, something they’ve done extremely well with the lone exception of the JaMarcus Russell hold out. If we knew what we know now about j. russell he would still be a holdout
June 19th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Good news!
Hopefully none of the draft picks are represented by any agents, who will try to make a name for themselves by trying to play hardball with uncle Al..
June 19th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
What is going on Raider Nation.
Good news on Richard. Now, let’s work out a fair contract extension.
Try as I might I just can’t get into this World Cup thing. I like to watch the olympics when they come around and get caught up in the wave of patriotism and such.
I guess I still have the opinion, outdated as it may be, that soccer is just a sport for little boys whose mommies won’t let them play football, because they’re afraid they might get hurt. I can’t help it.
June 19th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Something to pass the time with:
http://tfdsports.com/2010-articles/june/quentin-groves-making-fast-friends-with-the-raider-nation.html
June 19th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
By far the best Raider offseason in years. We still need a veteran WR but from Al’s press release I doubt we’ll see anything at this point since DHB’s last two non-contact practices clearly has him on track for the HOF.
June 19th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
the red zone channel is a channel that only shows teams that are near the 20 and about to score,the raiders were not on much last year but should take over the show this year!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Thousands of rubber ducks to land on British shores after 15 year journeyBy BEN CLERKIN
Last updated at 22:00 27 June 2007
They were toys destined only to bob up and down in nothing bigger than a child’s bath – but so far they have floated halfway around the world.
The armada of 29,000 plastic yellow ducks, blue turtles and green frogs broke free from a cargo ship 15 years ago.
Since then they have travelled 17,000 miles, floating over the site where the Titanic sank, landing in Hawaii and even spending years frozen in an Arctic ice pack.
And now they are heading straight for Britain. At some point this summer they are expected to be spotted on beaches in South-West England.
While the ducks are undoubtedly a loss to the bath-time fun of thousands of children, their adventures at sea have proved an innvaluable aid to science.
June 19th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Jerry….
Wow! two posts from you on a Saturday. Did you get all of your honey do’s done early, or what?…Thanks for the updates….
June 19th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Ya baby… The Raiders seem almost functional. Is all well. I mean Al well?
June 19th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
[...] The Oakland Raiders announced on their Twitter account that defensive end Richard Seymour had signed his exclusive franchise tender, meaning all free agents are present and accounted for and should be to camp on time. [...]
June 19th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I know this is from the last post by Jerry, but here’s why it NOT ok to sign Mawae…
He’s never been a ZBS center. Why sign a guy for one year so he can spend half the season learning the blocking assignments and line calls, just to cut him in training camp (or before) the following year? He also has missed training camp, so will be behind learning Hue’s offense.
One of our main problems at the center position is that the guys we have are too small and not strong enough to handle the big NTs in our division. Mawae is basically the same size as Satele and Morris. No upgrade there.
It’s a waste of a roster spot, and either Morris or Satele would have to go. Morris is a reasonably good backup that can also play guard, and Satele already knows the line calls and has minicamps and OTAs under his belt with Jackson’s offense.
Don’t get me wrong; we need a center. Mawae just isn’t the one.
June 19th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I’m so pumped for this season. I’m pumped for every season but this year just feels like we are ready to truly compete again. RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRSSSS!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Manute Bol, who became a basketball sensation in the 1980s as a skeletally thin shot-blocking giant with the Washington Bullets and other professional teams, and who devoted his post-basketball life to improving the lot of his fellow natives of Sudan, died June 19 at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville. He was 47.
June 19th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Good enough. Lets see if he gets more than 4 sacks this year. Bet he does.
Signing this tender gives the man incentives to play for a long term or shop himslef for another team next year. Nice move Al!
June 19th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
18. MANUTE!!!
RIP…
June 19th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
16. I tend to concur, but Mawze DOES have like 17 years experence. I’m sure he could figure out blocking asignments. Satele’s had like 3 yrs in the ZBS and still doesn’t get it.
Satele’s all too often got his back turned to the LOS and it gets our QB killed on delayed stunts.
Morris is under powered but CLEARLY played better that Satele at center.
At guard Morris got creamed.
Mawae may not be the answer but he could be better than what we’ve got…
June 19th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
R.I.P Manute Bol. Imagine if that guy had put some weight on his frame. Would have been unstoppable.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Nnamdi21,
We traded a 1st round pick for Richard Seymour. I sincerely hope he’s going to be an elite talent for the next 4 to 5 years.
What a waste if it turns out last year was the best we could get for a 1st rd pick.
Especially given that the draft picks now have value given how Al Davis is listening to people in the room before making these picks.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Seymour is overrated and now overpaid. We should have kept the draft pick.
I hope we let him go after this year.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Manute is nailing three pointers in the pearly gates as we speak.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Four sacks and a stud in stopping the run??
That would be like our best first round pick since Nnamdi!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Saints trade former Pro Bowl LT Jamal Brown for a mid-round pick.
For you big O-line buffs, this guy was a Pro Bowler, who got hurt last year and was replaced by a 6th round pick rookie from D-II, and they won the Super Bowl.
LT = most overrated position in football. Not because it isn’t important, but because team after team draft these guys in the top 5 and pay them more than some teams pay their QB.
Last year the Saints started the rookie at LT, and the Colts started a converted TE at LT. Both went to the Super Bowl.
June 19th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
if he signs a long term deal i hope its only a 3 year deal. not a Sapp type deal…..
June 19th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
I hop[e Seymour DOES take Houston under his wing. Both “under sized” DT’s can benefit.
Houston can help with rotation and Seymour can teach the kid hand placement and hand fighting that makes him one of the best DE’s in the game at standing ground and shedding blocks.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
June 19th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
st Fire Baby Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Saints trade former Pro Bowl LT Jamal Brown for a mid-round pick.
For you big O-line buffs, this guy was a Pro Bowler, who got hurt last year and was replaced by a 6th round pick rookie from D-II, and they won the Super Bowl.
LT = most overrated position in football. Not because it isn’t important, but because team after team draft these guys in the top 5 and pay them more than some teams pay their QB.
Last year the Saints started the rookie at LT, and the Colts started a converted TE at LT. Both went to the Super Bowl.
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You may be onto something. I’m sure Marcus McNeil of the Chargers would disagree with you but even he was a 2nd rounder.
Word is he’ll probably strike a deal with SD before the season.
Probably not for Wr Vincent Jackson.
Hope it hurts them!
June 19th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
25. Word
June 19th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Nnamdi21,
We traded a 1st round pick for Richard Seymour. I sincerely hope he’s going to be an elite talent for the next 4 to 5 years.
What a waste if it turns out last year was the best we could get for a 1st rd pick.
Especially given that the draft picks now have value given how Al Davis is listening to people in the room before making these picks.
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Pretty steep price I admit, but we’ve done well with later round picks recently and NOT with our 1st rounders unfortunately.
I like the veteran savvy Seymour brings and attitude. Hope he has a pro bowl year.
I’m sure he does too so he can leverage for a long term after the strike…
June 19th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
# Kirk Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Seymour is overrated and now overpaid. We should have kept the draft pick.
I hope we let him go after this year.
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I rarely belittle anyone on this blog but this post was IDIOTIC!The trade has been completed. The player is now with the S&B. What would possess you to hope we now let him go? IDIOT!
Seymour will prove, IMO, to be one of the finest defensive players ever for the S&B. And, I go back to 1965. I’ve seen most if not all. Seymour’s acquisition was one of he better things AD has done in a very long time.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
D starting to look good to bad the Offense still has no proven no 1 Wr or No 1. Rb but hey I’m sure with no Russel the Offense will just explode.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
June 19th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
You suppose that we gave such high tenders to guys like Routt b/c Al wanted to make them happy signing their tenders and let them go about their offseason. Whereas some other teams rfa’s don’t want to sign their tenders b/c that will make them underpaid.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Midwest fan
AD has almost always overpaid his players. He’s known as a players coach. He’s NOT a coaches coach though. Coaches are usually underpaid, especially due to all the BS they must have to put up with.
Your view of he situation probably has a lot of validity. Besides, lest us not forget, it’s NOT AD’s money that’s being spent. It’s the investors money. AD Football INC. is a contracted entity that gets paid for running the team and NOT paying for it.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I know I’m biased, but I think you’d be hard pressed to think of another team that’s had a better offseason than the Raiders. We’ll see how it translates in the fall in terms of wins and losses. The Raiders have to be one of the most improved teams in the league.
That is with everything taken into account, an outstanding draft, some nice free agent signings, and maybe the biggest difference maker..the hiring of Hue Jackson as OC.
I can’t even think of a close second. The Jets made some big moves and brought in some big names. But they have some serious unrest on that roster with contract situations.
Washington brought in McNabb as a veteran upgrade to Campbell, but the Fat Albert situation is ripping that team apart.
I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but can anybody think of a team that’s improved themselves more, at least on paper?
Nobody,IMO.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
buckeyeraider
Couldn’t agree more.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Hell, in my last post I didn’t even mention Jerry and everybody else raving about how DHB looks light years ahead of where he was at this point last year. Or a big one…the addition by subtraction of the Jamarcus Lethargy addiction distraction, if you will.
Totally different vibe around this years team.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Try saying that last part three times in a row…
Peter Piper picked a peck of…lol.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I’m guardedly optimistic about our O-line. If that improves I think that will be the difference in the season.
I also like that Hue is challenging Nnamdi. That is when he was here. Why not have your offense go after your best defensive players. Makes everyone better.
I’m thinking Seymour signs a 4yr deal around the bye week.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Let’s see now: Shaughnessy, Kelly/Henderson, Seymour, Houston, Scott, McClain, Wimbley, Asomugha, CJ, Branch/Mitchell, Huff. On paper at least, that’s going to be a bad ass D unit. Minimally a top 10 defense. Realistically, I expect to see a top 5 defense.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
The O-line is still a work in progress. We need a center badly. The RG & RT position needs to be solidified. I expect that we might end up with Bruce Campbell @ guard and Veldheer at Tackle. I believe Walker & Barnes will be the main Guard/Tackle back-ups with Satele & Morris as the center and guard back-ups.
Bruce Campbell reminds me, physically, of a young Gene Upshaw. I believe he could make that guard position special especially with lead blocking around the right edge. He’s got the speed to make it happen. We are not that far away on the O-line if 1.) Super Mario can continue to develop and become an above average LT and 2.) Robert Gallery can stay healthy. Lastly, we need another Barrett Robbins to takeover at center. IMO, our WR & TE’s are fine for now and will get a lot better over time. Bush & DMac need to make a statement this year. I also think JCampbell will flourish with the Raiders. He could end up being our next Gannon. He’s got the tools and apparently the desire & work ethic to make it happen.
It all began with the dumping of the giant turd. It’s been all positive since then.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Midwest,
I agree with you about the O-line. That is where the key to success for this season lies. If the line gels and performs capably this year, the Raiders could really surprise some people. If the line falters, this team might once again struggle to reach mediocrity.
Like you, I’m cautiously optimistic. I hope Satele’s shoulder has healed, and he’s added some strength. I hope he shocks some people this year. And I think some fans might be sleeping on Bruce Campbell too. He might be a year away or so, but I can’t wait to see how this kid looks in preseason.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
I hope we start signing Bruce Campbell, Veldheer, Mcfadden, etc basically our third to seventh picks right away, we should get everyone in by training camp.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Here’s my best guess:
At Tenn – Win (No Young or Johnson)
St. Louis Rams – Win
At Arizona Cardinals – Win
Houston Texans – Loss
San Diego Chargers – Win
At SF 49ers – Win
At Denver Broncos – Loss (tough place for us)
Seattle Seahawks – Win
KC Chiefs – Win
BYE WEEK
At Pittsburg Steelers – Win (We beat them last year and can do it again)
Miami Dolphins – Loss (Mia just does well against us)
At San Diego Chargers – Loss
At Jacksonville Jaguars – Win
Denver Broncos – Loss
Indianapolis Colts – Win (Colts resting stars)
At KC Chiefs Win
Result: 11-5 AFC-W Champion
June 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
June 19th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
JB,
I’ll take your final results…11-5 and AFC West cahmps, anyday. But, there’s no way in hell this team gets swept by the Broncos. I think lil prodigy Joshy McDaniels is about to crash and burn.
BTW, Mile High used to be a nightmare, but surprisingly, as of late the Raiders have had a lot of success in Denver. Winning 3 of the last 4 there, I believe. And their one loss was the BS with Shannarat calling the TO as Jano’s game winner sailed through.
I think you might switch one Denver L with SF or Pitt.
Just quibbling I guess. It’s all just speculation and fun and games at this point.
Like I said I’ll take 11-5 anyday.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Maybe we can get more than 3 good games from Seymour this year.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Some more good news:
Raiders | Desmond Bryant having strong offseason
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Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:57:35 -0400
Oakland Raiders DL Desmond Bryant has been the surprise of the team’s offseason practices, according to Gil Brandt, of NFL.com.
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl#ixzz0rLRTTakj
June 19th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Realistically, I think this could be an 8-8 team. But, an 8-8 team is just a break or two away from 10-6. Or a bad call or injury or two from 6-10.
8-8 would be a marked improvement and major step back towards respectability. I would be happy with that.
But hey, if you’re going to dream, might as well dream big, right?
June 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
The org should be be talking with worths agent as we speak. Hopefully the deal gets done….
Worth and henderson were teamates for the tenn vol national championship team….
June 19th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
MIstaBrown
How about one day without your baited BS – just looking for some back & forth jesting for your entertainment.
For a change why don’t yu really tel us what you think rather than take the opposite side of everything that’s said. If that really is you, then just go away because we don’t need to hear that BS.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Logan Mankins…..org should waste no time on this one.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RRRAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!!!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Mistabrown is the blog clown. He’s just a bitter dude cause he can’t get any Cleveland Brown info on a blog.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
chargers starting LT mc niek, and best WR jackson to sit out until november…
June 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
chargers starting LT mc niel, and best WR jackson to sit out until november…
June 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
JB..
I hope we get more than 3 games out of Seymour this year. If you dont like my post you can stick a serrated knife in your anus.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
the addition by subtraction of the Jamarcus Lethargy addiction distraction
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Damn Buckeye, waxing poetic……
June 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I think we ought to go after Nick Mangold, C-NYJ. He’s in a contract dispute with the NYJ. They just have to many big contracts coming into play and all the wheels can’t get greased at the same time. Mangold, a 2-time all pro, & 1-time all consensus 1st team all pro would be the missing piece we need to solidify the O-line. Trade next year’s #2 pick (our first of the 2011 draft) for Mangold.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
LMAO @ JB
What is it about B Campbell that reminds you of G Upshaw? Besides the color of their skin?
Lets see….1 is a HOF’er and the other will be lucky to make the team!!!
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JB Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Bruce Campbell reminds me, physically, of a young Gene Upshaw.
June 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Thec,
Man, I’ve been seeing that scrolling across the bottom of the screen here lately. Sounds almost too good to be true, doesn’t it? The quote from the GM…We’re trying to win a championship, doing it without those two might be harder, or something along those lines.LOL.
Surely, one side or the other is going to blink first. But wouldn’t that be sweet.
I’m just glad to see all the dysfunction and disharmony going on elsewhere for a change. While the good ship Silver and Black sails on tranquil and productive seas. What an off season. F’n A.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
I said my piece to you MistaBrown, I guess it hit home. You can’t seem to observe & comment without attacking people – a definite character flaw. I’ll just ignore you going forward – no harm no foul.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
buckeyeraider, chargers are in for it. They also lost john runyan who played very well on the oline last year as he became a politician.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
JB, maybe you should visit lenscrafters and find out how B Campbell reminds you of G Upshaw because I done SEE it. Upshaw was ONLY 60 lbs lighter…lmao
G Upshaw 6-5 -255lbs
B Campbell 6′6 -314lbs
June 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
trade tommy kelly straight up for worth…
June 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
JB,
You know who reminds me of Bo Jackson?
DMAC!
Cant you see the similarities? They are both Afr Amer and wear the same Uni!!! OMG its like Deja Vu!
hahaha
June 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Everybody back then was 60# lighter. Upshaw was very athletic and had better than decent speed for a lineman. He was extremely effective pulling on off tackle runs. I believe BCambell can be coached to emulate the same high level performance. He’s got the tools to make it happen. If you disagree, so be it.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Yes JB I agree..
B Campbell has shown nothing but promise in all ZERO of his NFL games so far. Im with you on this bro….I see 10 or 11 pro bowls in his future!
June 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Glad you agree.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
JB, after you decided to make an issue out of my post on Seymour that wasnt at all directed at you or anybody here it was just my thoughts you said you would ignore me. Now that I know you are a liar as well as a derelect resume humping your sister and stfu.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Gotcha!
June 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice if posters would stay on the subject???
June 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
What are you, 13? Certainly act like it. Go to your room.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
JB seeing how athletes are big and stronger now than they were when G Upshaw played, and seeing how B Campbell has yet to even play a pre-season game you can understand what a comical and ridiculous statement from you to be reminded of G Upshaw when you look at B Campbell right?
June 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
LOL
First day on a blog?
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# noteasilyimpressed Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice if posters would stay on the subject???
June 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
He better sign the tender
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Thinking for you is such a challenge, isn’t it, GlennDork?
The very first sentence Jerry posted stated he had already signed the tender..you then rush to post this, proving reading and comprehension were never your strong suit.
Besides dating 15 year old girls, what exactly is your strong suit?
oh, that’s right..according to you, you had enough money at 18 to buy your own house, WHILE you were graduating from college at 20, because you were in a hit rock band at 18.
Of COURSE you were, Oakdork…we believe you.
No…really…we do.
don’t we?
June 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
SeymourGlen, take your meds.
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# Just Win Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Mistabrown is the blog clown. He’s just a bitter dude cause he can’t get any Cleveland Brown info on a blog.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
# noteasilyimpressed Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice if posters would stay on the subject???
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$5.00 says you don’t know what the subject is….
Ok…..GO!
June 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Richochet, put this in your vault.
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KoolKell Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I saw Randy in there a couple of years ago, I had some questions for him about his negative comments in the paper. Believe it or not, he took off running with a full grocery basket to his car in the parking lot. He called over his shoulder, “you have eyes don’t you” But he wanted no part of me.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
“The Raiders announced on their Twitter account that defensive end Richard Seymour had signed his exclusive franchise tender”
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# Seymour Bush Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am
He better sign the tender
June 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
This is a brain- Raiders 2010= 6-10.
This is a brain on drugs:
# JB Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Here’s my best guess:
At Tenn – Win (No Young or Johnson)
St. Louis Rams – Win
At Arizona Cardinals – Win
Houston Texans – Loss
San Diego Chargers – Win
At SF 49ers – Win
At Denver Broncos – Loss (tough place for us)
Seattle Seahawks – Win
KC Chiefs – Win
BYE WEEK
At Pittsburg Steelers – Win (We beat them last year and can do it again)
Miami Dolphins – Loss (Mia just does well against us)
At San Diego Chargers – Loss
At Jacksonville Jaguars – Win
Denver Broncos – Loss
Indianapolis Colts – Win (Colts resting stars)
At KC Chiefs Win
Result: 11-5 AFC-W Champion
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Are you freaking serious?
11-5? lol…I mean, why not just for got the gusto…state 16-0??
How in the hell can the Raiders go 11-5?
June 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Richard Seymour did you hear SeymourBushGlen? He said you better sign the tender…
Or he will make you sign it…..AGAIN!
lmao
June 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Richochet, put this in your vault.
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KoolKell Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I saw Randy in there a couple of years ago, I had some questions for him about his negative comments in the paper. Believe it or not, he took off running with a full grocery basket to his car in the parking lot. He called over his shoulder, “you have eyes don’t you” But he wanted no part of me.
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lol…already have it..from the first go round.
Classic stuff.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
So, everyone’s getting banned? for what?
June 19th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
This is my favorite assumption by “posters”.
“At Pittsburg Steelers – Win (We beat them last year and can do it again)”
Nothing like some good scientific logic! Take it to the bank fellas!
haha
June 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
If I may,
I used to have an NFL films piece on the late Gene Upshaw. It compared his appearance, with his padded forearms to a mummy who broke down the walls of an ancient crypt. Anyway, Upshaw said his favorite part of the game, and his forte really, was pulling and leading a sweep. He was VERY mobile. He said he liked to get out there and see the fear in a db’s eyes, cause the lil sucka didn’t know what to do or where to hide.
Now, fast forward. The comparison comes in to B Campbell. At the combine the guy ran like a TE, at 310 freakin lbs. VERY mobile. If you watch his youtube highlights, he looks very adept at getting outside and leading sweeps. He sent some dudes flyin.
That’s the comparison JB was getting at, I believe. He certainly wasn’t implying Bruce Campbell is a future hall of famer or anything.
Some people just need to blow things all out of proportion, I guess.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
This is funny as heck!
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ys-forbesdisliked061810
June 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Buckeye, thats sweet of you to speak for Jb, you should probably give him a reach around while your at it, but he said “physically” he is reminded of G Upshaw not by his “leading a sweep” ability. I dont see how 2 guys separated by 60lbs is remotely similar by any stretch but my vision is 20/20.
Can we at least see Campbell in a pre-season game to start the comparisons?
June 19th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Rich-O,
How the hell are ya? Ain’t been around these parts much lately. Spending your summer fishing and golfing, it sounds like. Kinda missed your surliness and lazerlike focus.
As long as it’s not aimed at me. LOL.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Reach around? Sounds like you might be speaking from experience, Mistabrown. Which not coincidentally rhymes with Ass Clown.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
That’s the comparison JB was getting at, I believe. He certainly wasn’t implying Bruce Campbell is a future hall of famer or anything.
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Exactly. Thank you for noticing. I’ve met Upshaw a umber of times and have seen all his home games. He was impressive coming around the corner. DB definitely didn’t want anything to do with that. Now, just imagine that same scenario, maybe just a little quicker & 60#’s larger. That works.
June 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Reach around? Sounds like you might be speaking from experience, Mistabrown. Which not coincidentally rhymes with Ass Clown.
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A poet no less. LMAO
June 19th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Right! Thanks for noticing what I didn’t say eh JB?
lmao
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JB Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Exactly. Thank you for noticing.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
For you younger fans, you missed a lot by not being able to see the old players. They earned many of those nicknames. The Assassin really was. The Molestor did that regularily to WR’s. D. Death was just that at safety. The game was a lot more vicious back then. Head slaps, iron barring, constant hit & run contact on WR’s was normal. We had a RT back then that came from the LA Rams- BIG Bob Brown. He to wore wrappings around his arms (like Upshaw). I believe they had hard-shelled protective devices under the wraps for more effective blocking techniques. Bob Brown, during a practice, actually broke a goalpost with a forearm swing. The guy was a real monster. Those were really the good days. They were truly one bad ass group – both on and off the field.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
JB does SuckEyeRaider chew your bubble gum for you too or just think and type for ya? Oh look I made a rhyme, such a poet we all are!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
To all my friends in Cali, There is a…….YES,, Peter Frampton……Concert Tour……on your way. You don’t want to miss it, they are smoking up the East Coast, even if you saw them before, they are rocking out the houses here, do not miss this!!!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
JB, for you older guys that dont have Cable or Satellite. There’s this thing called ESPN now, they have alot of throw back specials where you can see teams from back in the day. Heck sometimes they even do hour long specials on just 1 team, for example the Oakland Raiders. You should check it out! You know Hiram Eugene reminds me of G Atkinson, how about you?
June 19th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Oh gee wiz let me go break my piggy bank so I don’t miss this one!
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860Todd Christensen Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
To all my friends in Cali, There is a…….YES,, Peter Frampton……Concert Tour……on your way
June 19th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Only $35 here, they are a rockin, rollin, and setting the place on fire, if you need some cash Mista, send me an e-mail, I’ll help you out and educate you at the same time!!!!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Damn Mista,
You’re in an unusually foul mood tonight. Even by your standards. Everything OK? Did you just come in here to vent your frustations? WTF.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I think O-Bama is sponsoring this tour, trade in your cheese points for a concert!!!!!!Win, Win!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
MB
No I really don’t see the similarities. Atkinson’s main strength was his intimidation factor. He’d clothesline a receiver as he tried to go by. He’d also be very physical with receivers and runners alike. Every tackle came with a forearm shot along side the head. They can’t do the things he did in today’s game. I’m not sure he would be very effective in today’s game. So far, Hiram Eugene is at best a back-up. I’m not sure he will progress beyond that.
Surprisingly so, I have all the goodies you mention and I do enjoy watching the Raiders of Old. Thank you for reminding me of that. Fortunately it’s our short term memory that goes. The long term memory remains solid. That way the Raiders I remember best are those that help build the History of the S&B. We wouldn’t be here today if it weren’t for them.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Seymour did not record a single sack in the last 10 games of last season.
Overrated and overpaid.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
JB, Mike Mitchell fits that mold, hope he dosen’t forget it!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
R.I.P Manute. You were a good man. Oakland will always luv ya!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Kirk
I think you’ll see a much improved Seymour this year. He was always double and triple blocked last year. He was also new to our defense – the same defense with a total void at LB. This year the line will be dominate from end to end. The new LB’s will help change the complexion of the defense. Seymour and Houston will be a terror on the right side. Just wait & see – you won’t be disappointed.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
JB, I was at the Raider/Pats game when Blackmon was taken out. 40 Feet away, Raider football, they do not play the same since, sorry…we have lost the swagger, not to mean we have to break peoples necks, but I have noticed the change in this team since then….
June 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
JB, Mike Mitchell fits that mold, hope he doesn’t forget it!
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He does but unfortunately the rules today will not allow a player to do the things that Atkinson got away with. Too bad as it was a good thing to see when your guy was on the delivering side.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Seriously sacks arent the only measure of a dlinemans value. If that were the case Lance Johnstone and Rod Coleman are two of the raiders greatest ever.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
JB, I agree we had to sign him, we had little choice.
I hope you are right.
One thing is for sure, our team is going to be much, much better this year.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Otto,
Yes, he was a good man. I remember I saw a human interest piece on him once, where he was raising money and even using his own to build hospitals for the poor in Africa. A decent human being.
And one not afraid to live life to the fullest, and not afraid to poke fun at himself. Didn’t he fight William “The Fridge” Perry in one of those celebrity boxing matches?
RIP.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
JB, Tatum ruled….
June 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Unfortunately, some necks were broken. The rules did have to change to protect the players. Daryl Stingley would attest to that fact. Jack Tatum, to this day, regrets that hit that put Stingley in the wheelchair forever.
You are right about the swagger but I do see some of hat returning especially with the likes of Seymour & Houston.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Gotta run guys. Nice discussion all. Even you too MB.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
It’s a shame that a quality starting LT could who (apparently) fits the ZBS could have been had for mid/late round picks, and the Raiders didn’t make a move. If Quentin Groves was worth a fifth round pick, why isn’t Jammal Brown worth a fourth or a fifth?
June 19th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Part of me is still holding out hope that the Raiders are sitting on a deal for Jared Gaither.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
To YA, everyone was stacking the deck, not picking up the HIGH PRICED anything, they are probably going out on strike, which is going to cost them dearly, in these economic times, people don’t have the money that the League has had access to in past years. It’s called O-Bama fitness, spend Trillions on a path to no-where, just like JaMarcus, the fed’s are behind it!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Part of me is still holding out hope that the Raiders are sitting on a deal for Jared Gaither.
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Gaither has weight problems and poor work ethic. Sounds familiar…
June 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
It’s a shame that a quality starting LT could who (apparently) fits the ZBS could have been had for mid/late round picks, and the Raiders didn’t make a move. If Quentin Groves was worth a fifth round pick, why isn’t Jammal Brown worth a fourth or a fifth?
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The Raiders took Jared Veldheer and Bruce Campbell BOTH mid round left tackle prospects.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
N21, I’m in!
June 19th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
If I may,
I used to have an NFL films piece on the late Gene Upshaw. It compared his appearance, with his padded forearms to a mummy who broke down the walls of an ancient crypt. Anyway, Upshaw said his favorite part of the game, and his forte really, was pulling and leading a sweep. He was VERY mobile. He said he liked to get out there and see the fear in a db’s eyes, cause the lil sucka didn’t know what to do or where to hide.
Now, fast forward. The comparison comes in to B Campbell. At the combine the guy ran like a TE, at 310 freakin lbs. VERY mobile. If you watch his youtube highlights, he looks very adept at getting outside and leading sweeps. He sent some dudes flyin.
That’s the comparison JB was getting at, I believe. He certainly wasn’t implying Bruce Campbell is a future hall of famer or anything.
Some people just need to blow things all out of proportion, I guess.
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Campbell looks good and he can run. The bad news? He’s waaay green. The good news? He appears to be coachable.
He’s definitely mobile but run blocking, traps, sweeps cuts all of it, he needs serious work and he suffered an injury plaugued 2009.
June 19th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
When the Raiders Blitzed The Steelers repeatedly, this defence became a team, sorry we lost it after that game.
June 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Out everyone, have a good evening, east coast here, up @ 5 am, night bro’s
June 19th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Gaither has weight problems and poor work ethic. Sounds familiar…
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The difference is that he actually produces on the playing field.
Don’t get me wrong, I would have preferred Jammal Brown, and that ship has sailed. But the Raiders need to do something about the tackle position. Veldheer may indeed be a very good tackle in the future, but as it stands right now I’m not even sure there’s ONE starting-caliber tackle on the team, much less two.
Just like last season, Henderson and Barnes are the projected starters. Outside of that, there’s Langston Walker and Erik Pears.
Gaither is a proven player who is being dangled out there by a team with a lot of depth at the position. In my opinion it would be a shame to not take advantage of that.
The Raiders o-line would inspire a lot more confidence if it looked like this:
Gaither – Gallery – Satele – Campbell – Veldheer
Draft a center next offseason with enough size to take on those big 3-4 NTs and the Raiders are in good shape.
June 19th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
G’night everybody.
June 19th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Actually, I don’t think we will win two games against the Chiefs. We can win two games against the Broncos and maybe the Chargers if Jackson and Mcneil both get released or traded. I seriously think Chiefs will shock some teams with the addition of Thomas Jones and having Jamaal Charles in the mix. Cassel will be more familiar with Haley’s offense and Eric Berry might be the ROY in defense. I think the Raiders are better defensive team then the Chiefs but Chiefs offense might be better then ours. If we win both games, then we will win the division as I think the Chargers will fall out to 6-10 and Broncos will be 4-12.
June 19th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I just heard about Manute Bol.
I loved that guy. He always jacked up those crazy 3 pointers–and made quite a few.
I always liked how he shot his free throws, absolutely no hesitation. The ref gave him the ball and then it was going up insantly.
47 years, not long enough.
Give some serious thoughts to where you will spend eternity.
June 19th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
I can tell you right now where you’re going to spend eternity, Sweep. 6 feet in the ground. Well, really, you’re only going to be there for a few weeks before the bugs eat what’s left of you. So, you can stop worrying about that and focusing on getting your life together, now.
June 19th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
To YA, everyone was stacking the deck, not picking up the HIGH PRICED anything, they are probably going out on strike, which is going to cost them dearly, in these economic times, people don’t have the money that the League has had access to in past years. It’s called O-Bama fitness, spend Trillions on a path to no-where, just like JaMarcus, the fed’s are behind it!
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Talks of an impending strike have been going on well before Obama even ran for president. You’re as stupid as they come.
June 19th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
To all my friends in Cali, There is a…….YES,, Peter Frampton……Concert Tour……on your way. You don’t want to miss it, they are smoking up the East Coast, even if you saw them before, they are rocking out the houses here, do not miss this!!!!!
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I’m hoping they have a lot of insulin on hand, and perhaps plenty of fire hoses just to keep the smell tolerable.
June 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
John Henderson is F@Ckin nuts….
Has he killed someone on the field yet?
June 19th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Just to add my 2 cents on the B Campbell similar to Gene Upshaw. I see the same similarity and said as much a couple of days ago. The speed with which BC runs is very similar to Uppie including the athleticism.Now no one is saying BC will play to that level only saying with a lot of work which guy’s with good work etheic seem to do he could be a very similar in performance. No promises made no predictions just athletic comparisons.
June 19th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
I firmly believe that not only d we se it but the Raiders obviously saw the same thing. After all Uppie was in the 5th draft of Mr Davis’ tenure as owner and GM.
June 19th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
BCampbell could indeed emulate Gene Upshaw. He’s got all the tools including more speed and 60# of more muscle. That equates to big time blocking around the edge on the famous sweep play. He just needs to learn from the coaches and work hard at becoming NFL caliber talent.
June 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
I hope John Henderson is a little nuts. It makes for much more effective players. Witness John Matusak, Lyle Alzedo, Otis Sistrunk, Bill Romaniski, George Atkinson, Big Bob Brown, Steve Wisnewski, all players in their own zone.
June 19th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
The only thing JB is will we pull and trap the way we used to? This line is very physical in terms of size and athletic they could play whatever style they want but Cable is a ZB type guy hopefully they’ve seen the light. Get more power football in there and hit somebody play with aggressive style.
June 20th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Oakland Raiders: Rebuilding Process Nearly Complete
“I love it when a plan comes together!”
Not even the most adamant Raider-hater can deny the improvements made by the Oakland Raiders this offseason. Accounts describing the extent of this improvement vary depending upon who is doing the speaking.
Hardcore haters say it’s minimal at best. Hardcore fans say it’s the best since Al Davis took the Raiders from 1-13 in 1962 to 10-4 in 1963.
As is always the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
The road back to success and respectability is a long one for the Raiders. Improvement is needed at almost every position on both sides of the ball. A team that has given up more points that it has scored for seven consecutive years cannot be turned around in one offseason.
June 20th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Fat Kidd
Look at it like this, they’re making adjustmenst on a constant basis to get things the wya they need to be in order to be successful. Sometimes you think you’re done until the results are in which show you the difficiencies. You then adjust accordingly, biulding a winner isn’t like biulding a car or any other piece of machinery because the pieces have minds of their own. They’re not robots. Guy’s like KoolKell think you get players and they’re supposed to workout or else you’re at fault because you got the wrong player.
It’s just not as simple as that if it were you could biuld a tam on an assembly line. Players get injured have all kinds of issues which do not show up on a scouting report. Meaning you picked the right player physically speaking but he has issues that are near impossible to detect watching film or even in an interview. That’s why the draft is a such a crap shoot you cannot read the players mind and heart.
Thus mistakes that are in the 10’s of millions $ happen so often. Even with a PI on the case. Biulding a winnning team is extremely difficult that’s why you see organizations go 30-40 years without winning. Yet Raiders wish death on a man because he hasn’t won in 7 years.
In reality that is a very short period of time since a SB appearance. If we can just get back to respectability it will be a very good achievement in some respects. If we get to the playoffs in the next 2 years after rebiulding from scratch it will be impressive especially for a team so young.
And that’s not because I’m a Mr Davis supporter which I am it’s because it’s very true. That would mean we have able to compete for a SB appearance in every dcade of our existence. No other franchise can say that and very few in any sport…….period
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