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Saints coach Payton recalls interview with Raiders’ Davis

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, June 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

 

 

Sean Payton enters the 2010 season as the high-profile coach of the defending Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints.

Five years ago, he was an assistant coach of the Dallas Cowboys and angling for his first head coaching gig in the NFL. Raiders managing general partner Al Davis had first crack.
At the time, I contacted Maurice Carthon, who also worked for the Cowboys, in an attempt to see how the interview went.
Carthon told me, without prompting, that Payton had accepted the job and was on his way to Oakland as the successor to Norv Turner in 2005. That was before Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and then-coach Bill Parcells had their say.
Jones gave Payton a $500,000 raise, and he and Parcells persuaded Payton to stick around and wait for a better opportunity. Sure enough, it came in 2006, when he was hired by the Saints.
Davis kept Norv Turner as his coach, and Turner stayed one more season in a 9-23 stint over two seasons.
Parcells, along with former Raiders coaches Bill Callahan, Jon Gruden and John Fox, reportedly discouraged Payton from accepting the Raiders job.
In a new book just released, called “Home Team: Coaching the Saints and New Orleans Back to Life”, Payton recounted the events of his interview with Davis thusly.
A day after he agreed to coach the Raiders, Jones called and invited Payton to his house for a face-to-fact chat.
“If Jerry’s the last guy you see before you make a decision, you’re probably going to stay with him,” Payton says in his book.
So it was that Payton called his wife, Beth, and his agent after meeting with Parcells and informed them that he was staying with the Cowboys. The new contract came along with his decision to stick around.
In another fascinating anecdote, Payton recalled his interview with Davis in Alameda.
Payton says that Davis conducted the interview while wearing a black sweat suit. Nothing else about the process went as expected, either, according to Payton.
“Al is an extremely talented football guy. Few owners who interview can really talk about a defensive front, team travel and the salary cap,” Payton said. “He can hit on all these topics.”
Payton was a relative NFL neophyte at the time. Meeting with an NFL icon such as Davis made Payton more than a tad nervous.
“I walked into the bathroom, and I took three deep breaths,” Payton said. “I said: ‘I belong here. I belong here. I belong here.’ ”
The interview lasted into the night, which prompted Davis to suggest that they grab a quick meal.
“You like cheeseburgers?” Davis asked Payton.
“Of course I do,” Payton said.
Davis ordered an assistant to make a McDonald’s run for some cheeseburgers and some cole slaw from Kentucky Fried Chicken.
“The assistant says, ‘Mr. Davis, McDonald’s doesn’t have cole slaw,’ ” Payton said.”But Al wanted his cole slaw, so the assistant had to figure out what to do. So we’re sitting there — mind you, it’s about 11 p.m. — eating McDonald’s cheeseburgers and cole slaw from KFC. You know what a cold cheeseburger tastes like?”
In a strange twist, the Raiders now are coached by Tom Cable, who worked on the coaching staff at San Diego State with Payton in 1989 and remains a close friend of Payton’s.
You can bet that Cable and Payton have plenty of Davis tales to share whenever they get together for a beer or two and, perhaps, a cold cheeseburger and some cole slaw.

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  1. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    #

    Dos Equis ad Al Davis should watch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNYHoI47fw0

  2. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I’m diappointed. I thought we’d get to 4000!

  3. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    that’s disappointed. lol

  4. BigTed707 Says:

    NICE!

  5. BigTed707 Says:

    Sign Mawae!

  6. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry, BHP will be there to tell you later that Payton was never offered the job in Oakland. And that you, Payton, Parcells, and Jerry Jones are all liars.

  7. BigTed707 Says:

    Bwah! Micky-Dees!
    Al really doesn’t spend on coaches!

  8. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL @ the cheeseburgers. Al hasn’t lost a step. He knows how to get a coach in today’s market. McDonald’s. My treat. Just Win!

  9. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry Jones found out about it and took Payton to In N Out Burger. He hasn’t looked back since.

  10. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Did you guys see that dumb bittch Palin talking about Reagan going to Eureka college when speaking in California, and how because of that his roots are in California? Eureka college is in Illinois. Reagan didn’t go to California until he started acting. She might honestly be the dumbest person ever allowed to speak on television.

  11. Pretty Rick Says:

    Even if Sean Payton had become the Raiders head coach,,it probably wouldnt have mattered because at that time Al was still actively ruling with an iron fist, wich wouldnt have allowed Sean Payton to be successful anyway & we probably wouldve been in here making a wish list of potential coaching candidates.

  12. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I would like to say thanks to the team behind ‘ITOR’… it was very nice of you to let me decide what the target should be =) LOL

    Thanks

  13. Drexl Says:

    Black track suits for interviews, white track suits for pregame walk around eh Al?

  14. Seymour Bush Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Did you guys see that dumb bittch Palin talking about Reagan going to Eureka college when speaking in California, and how because of that his roots are in California? Eureka college is in Illinois. Reagan didn’t go to California until he started acting. She might honestly be the dumbest person ever allowed to speak on television.
    =================================================

    MistabrOwn posted an Anti Obama piece yesterday by actor Jon Voight. What is it with the conservatives and actors? Reagan, Schwarzenneger, Fred Thompson. It does make sense tho. You think mistabrOwn would post an op-ed piece from the NY Times? He must get all his editorials from the National Enquirer.

  15. Drexl Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    #

    Dos Equis ad Al Davis should watch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNYHoI47fw0
    ——————————————
    It is a known through out the Nation.

    The “most interesting man in the world” is Al Davis.

  16. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No, he’s not. The most interesting man in the world isn’t embarrassing himself as the worst owner in all of sports. The ad’s message is one Al Davis needs to hear. “Find out what you’re not good at, and don’t do it”. And obviously Al is NOT good at running an NFL football team.

  17. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jon Voight. Yeh. There’s another one. He likes to go around speaking for Republicans and talking about family values, while Angelina Jolie, who’s Jon Voight’s daughter, won’t speak to Voight to this day because he was a dead beat drunk dad. I see keep them in front of the camera. Only helps us.

  18. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Sean Payton here are your options: i) Go to Oakland and be the puppet HC of an utterly dissapointing team, you don’t choose any of your assistants, and you get paid less than the ball boys in Dallas. ii) Get a 500k raise and wait for Parcells to keep his promise of getting you a decent HC job….throw in a cold MCds cheeseburger… no brainer, no brainer.

  19. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Tom Cable here are your options: i) be the puppet HC of a POS team, don’t choose your assistants, get paid less than the ball boys in Dallas. ii) be a ball boy in Dallas…..no brainer.

  20. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha. Right on, Macho Man. nnnnnyeeeek right on…..bbbbrother!

  21. Rayda23059 Says:

    Macho and RMR, here are your options:

    1) continue to disguise yourself as Raiders fans
    2) admit you are jackazzes(er, democrats)

  22. Drexl Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    No, he’s not. The most interesting man in the world isn’t embarrassing himself as the worst owner in all of sports. The ad’s message is one Al Davis needs to hear. “Find out what you’re not good at, and don’t do it”. And obviously Al is NOT good at running an NFL football team.
    ——————————————————
    Kick an old man when he’s down much?

    I still love the old fawker, and have faith he will be successful in the NFL again.

  23. fat kidd Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    Jon Voight. Yeh. There’s another one. He likes to go around speaking for Republicans and talking about family values, while Angelina Jolie, who’s Jon Voight’s daughter, won’t speak to Voight to this day because he was a dead beat drunk dad. I see keep them in front of the camera. Only helps us.

    ……………………..if angelina jolene was naked in front of you would you listen too her?

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What’s crazier, Sarah Palin thinking that Eureka college is in Eureka, CA (no speech editors???) or that Sarah Palin was able to bring in more money than any other speaker ever at Stanislaus State, including more than Michelle Obama?

  25. MistaBrown Says:

    first

  26. MistaBrown Says:

    Angelina Jolene?
    You cant even copy her name correctly from the cut & paste section? Fuktard
    ____

    # fat kidd Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    ……………………..if angelina jolene was naked in front of you would you listen too her?

  27. fat kidd Says:

    the country is almost in a depression and people are listening to people like sarah palim do the math!!!!!

  28. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    Angelina Jolene?
    You cant even copy her name correctly from the cut & paste section? Fuktard
    ____

    # fat kidd Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    ……………………..if angelina jolene was naked in front of you would you listen too her?

    …………………………….mistabrown you tripped over the cord of your phone yesterday and you have a cordless phone and your calling me a fuktard!!!!

  29. MistaBrown Says:

    You for giving a damn. Our current Pres thinks there are 57 states in our union.

    ____

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    What’s crazier, Sarah Palin thinking that Eureka college is in Eureka, CA (no speech editors???) or that Sarah Palin was able to bring in more money than any other speaker ever at Stanislaus State, including more than Michelle Obama?

  30. MistaBrown Says:

    The idiot asst should have bought the “cold” cole slaw from KFC first and then hit McDonalds on the way back to Alameda, but Im pretty sure cheeseburgers fit in a microwave for a “reheat” takes all of 20 seconds.

    ___

    ”But Al wanted his cole slaw, so the assistant had to figure out what to do. So we’re sitting there — mind you, it’s about 11 p.m. — eating McDonald’s cheeseburgers and cole slaw from KFC. You know what a cold cheeseburger tastes like?”

  31. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
    You for giving a damn. Our current Pres thinks there are 57 states in our union.

    ____

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    What’s crazier, Sarah Palin thinking that Eureka college is in Eureka, CA (no speech editors???) or that Sarah Palin was able to bring in more money than any other speaker ever at Stanislaus State, including more than Michelle Obama?

    Eureka IS NOT EVEN A COLLEGE ITS A VACUUM CLEANER DIPSTIK.

  32. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Rockstar anyone who thinks they are smarter than good solid football people has drank too much moonshine when they were a child. And anyone who thinks Capt Wuss gets over on anyone has had their brain eaten away badly by moonshine.
    ——————————————
    Not what he said. It’s what YOU said as a weak pathetic retort, after your mancrush on Rob the Slob Ryan got laughed at.

    Let me simplify it for you, Old Man.
    Most Raider fans think Rob Ryan sucks as a DC.
    YOU replied with “Belichick had him as a coach, and you’re not smarter than him”
    Except he WASN’T a DC.
    But you won’t let that go, because doing so means you get laughed at even more for being wrong, yet again.

    As far as me owning you?
    Doesn’t everyone on this board basically own you?

    Why do you think you ALWAYS change your handles?
    Because you KEEP GETTING SLAMMED DOWN…

    Simple question I KNOW YOU WON’T answer….
    By your estimate, how many posters here have accused you of cross-posting?

  33. fat kidd Says:

    mistabrown remember what your orange juice carton said at breakfast concentrate.

  34. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Richochet Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Pray tell…how is it that YOU KNOW ABOUT COMMENTS FROM ME from over a year PRIOR TO SEYMOUR BUSH signing on?
    How is that possible…I mean…if you AREN’T Oakglen?
    ====================================================

    Once again, a completely STUPID thing to say. You see that link to the catalog of Jerry’s articles up there on the right? Well, you can just pull any of those articles up and wow, there you are saying stupid sh**. It takes all of about four seconds to find you saying some ignorant idiotic thing. Same thing for mistabrOwn. Literally, it takes four seconds.
    ===================
    Now how odd is that?

    What you’re saying is that you…basically…went back a year plus, and just decided to READ ALL OF MY POSTS?

    You didn’t just say that? lol…

    don’t you think it’s better you just state “I knew all of what happened back then because I WAS HERE BACK THEN POSTING AS OAKGLEN’ instead of now saying you went back….

    AND DECIDED TO GO AND READ MY COMMENTS, WHEN YOU WEREN’T EVEN HERE?

    I mean, granted, you look like a fool either way…too late to un-sail that ship, courtesy of your dumbass,..but..everyone already knows you’re a cross-posting POS who has full conversations/arguments with himself…but now stating you’re my little groupy?

    Does it get much better than this? :mrgreen:

  35. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    You for giving a damn. Our current Pres thinks there are 57 states in our union.
    =================================================

    He’s probably referring to the US Protectorates. Ever hear of Puerto Rico? How’s about US Samoa? Guam? US Virgin Islands? Probably never heard of any of those have you? Might as well throw Iraq and Afghanistan in there as well. Right now those two are states without US voting rights.

  36. MistaBrown Says:

    Rich,
    Between Fat Kidd, tj, and SeyGlen how many brain cells are in the picture at any given time ?

    over under /36

  37. MistaBrown Says:

    Oh SeymourGlen was just sitting here looking for something to brighten his day and HERE I am!

    Seyglen, first you get Rob Ryans back and now you want to defend a Pres that thinks there are 57 states? Are you in the circus?
    _____

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    He’s probably referring to the US Protectorates. Ever hear of Puerto Rico? How’s about US Samoa? Guam? US Virgin Islands? Probably never heard of any of those have you? Might as well throw Iraq and Afghanistan in there as well. Right now those two are states without US voting rights.

  38. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Anyone else see this today? Rick Santelli might kill someone on air by the end of the BO admin.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_m8khoJI0

  39. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    Rich,
    Between Fat Kidd, tj, and SeyGlen how many brain cells are in the picture at any given time ?

    over under /36

    braincells your the one who climbed a chain link fence too see what was on the other side!!!!!!!!1

  40. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And Rob Ryan sucks as a DC but is a damn good assistant.

    That’s what his resume shows. Very successful assistant coach, very disastrous DC.

    The proof is in the pudding.

  41. MistaBrown Says:

    Whats up with Santelli doesn’t he know that tax cuts cause deficits NOT Barback 0ilbama spending like a drunken sailor?

    SeyGlen, it appears R Santelli didnt get your memo of fuktard economics.
    ____

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Anyone else see this today? Rick Santelli might kill someone on air by the end of the BO admin.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_m8khoJI0

  42. MistaBrown Says:

    In 120 days Pres purple lips will lose his Dem majority in Congress and the spending and wealth distribution will end.

    In 2012 Pres Purple lips can go back to being a community organizer/agitator. We can reverse his HC reform.

    Amen
    The end.

  43. fat kidd Says:

    Rick Santelli is working in the pits on wallstreet and cant even get his own show !!!!barack obama is in the oval office of the white house .maybe goldman sachs ceo should ask the carwash boy how to run his bussiness!!!

  44. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    In 120 days Pres purple lips will lose his Dem majority in Congress and the spending and wealth distribution will end.

    In 2012 Pres Purple lips can go back to being a community organizer/agitator. We can reverse his HC reform.

    Amen
    The end.

    not so fast ever hear of a veto.

  45. MistaBrown Says:

    Nothing like a old Sean Payton story regurgitated to keep the politics to a minimum.

    Thanks Steve

  46. fat kidd Says:

    okay back to sports george w. bush was the worst owner of a major league team.the texas rangers who went bankrupt!!!!

  47. Just Fire Baby Says:

    For a football topic, I’ll break down my opines on the draft.

    Rolando McClain and Houston will be studs. A little biased for McClain being that he was the guy I wanted the Raiders to draft a good 6 months before the draft, but I believe only injuries will deter this guy from having a 5 or 6 time Pro Bowl career. Guys with his size, skill, pedigree, work ethic and football IQ rarely ever fail in this league.

    Houston may never make a Pro Bowl, but he will be a disruptive force, and a guy O-lineman will hate. Maybe a Brenston Buckner type career, not any Pro Bowls but a damn good player who played on a lot of good defenses.

    I see Jacoby Ford maybe having a Jermaine Lewis of the Ravens type career. Mostly a returner, who’s stars fizzle fairly quickly, but a threat on every return for 4-5 years, and an occasional big-gainer on offense.

    I really like McFadden to ultimately replace Routt as our 3rd DB. McFadden may lack some “Raider size and speed”, but when the balls in the air, he attacks it and makes plays. Watched the entire Outback bowl this past year, and he might have been the best player on the field that day.

    Campbell and Veldheer scare me a tad. Veldheer didn’t play against any type of pro talent, and there is going to be a colossal leap in talent in guys he will face. Doesn’t appear to be very versatile, at 6′8 he won’t be playing any interior line, and most RT’s are 340+ and not 6′8. He seems to be a LT or nothing, and if Mario improves where does that leave Veldheer? I look for him to make his biggest impact maybe blocking FG’s in all honesty.

    And than Campbell. Some already have annointed him the next Gene Upshaw, as far as type of talent. But truth be told, he was a somewhat injury-prone, somewhat productive LT in college. Without his combine numbers, what would we have been? His film probably put him in the 6th or 7th round. Moving to G could be what he needs, and I am very eager to see him play. But he has already stated his “Struggles” at RG so far, and it ain’t going to get much easier.

    Our two O-line picks might be our lemons of the draft.

    But any draft that may include a top-tier LB talent for 10 years is a good draft, no matter what the others do.

    Great day to be a Raider because we got a new thread!!!

  48. fat kidd Says:

    Cleveland Browns: Is Rob Ryan a Great Coach or Just a Great Quote?
    by J Gatskie Written on June 03, 2010 Defensive Coordinator Rob Ryan has 23 years experience coaching football at the collegiate and professional levels. He is entering his second season as the leader of a Cleveland Browns 3-4 defense that appeared, on the surface at least, to make huge strides at the end of 2009.
    In addition to his experience as a football coach, Rob Ryan is known as one of the best interviews in sports. Cleveland Plain Dealer Columnist Bud Shaw probably summed it up best when he called for Ryan to be named “Assistant Head Coach of Press Conferences.”
    Ryan is the son of famed former Chicago Bears Defensive Coordinator and NFL Head Coach Buddy Ryan, and the twin brother of New York Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan. He was born in Oklahoma and played linebacker and defensive end at Southwestern Oklahoma State University.
    Rob began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at both Western Kentucky in 1987 and Ohio State in 1988. He matriculated to Tennessee State from 1989-1993 where he coached the running backs, followed by the wide receivers and finally, the defensive line.
    From 1994-95, Ryan was the Arizona Cardinals defensive backs coach, and coached Aeneas Williams, who went to the Pro Bowl both years. In 1995, the Cardinals led the NFL with 32 interceptions and in 1994 they were second in pass defense.
    In 1996 he landed his first defensive coordinator job at Hutchinson Community College. While he was at Hutchinson in 1996, they led the nation in total defense and sacks. His defense set a national record by forcing 49 turnovers.
    Hutchinson led to a huge step up when he was named the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State in 1997. He was there from 1997-99 and was named the Coordinator of the Year by The Sporting News in 1997.
    In 2000, Bill Belichick hired him to oversee the linebackers on the New England Patriots, and he held that position until 2003, winning two Super Bowl rings.
    In 2004, he was hired as the Oakland Raiders Defensive Coordinator and held the position until 2008. In 2006, Ryan’s Raiders led the NFL in pass defense, was third overall, and was fourth in fewest yards allowed.
    In the other four years, the Raiders ranked 27th overall in defense in 2008, 22nd in 2007, 27th in 2005 and 30th in 2004.
    At times Ryan has shown a propensity for accepting responsibility. After a loss to the Broncos in 2008, Ryan responded to a question from the National Media with this expletive laced tirade:
    “Hell I’ve been through some tough times. S–t, look at this… I’ve got gray [hair]. I’ve got it. This is the National F—ing Football League, you’re not going to be on point every week. Am I pissed off about (last) Monday night? You’re d— right. But it’s on me and G-d— it, enough’s enough.
    Come on, guys. Put it on me, let’s not make up some bulls–t. I’ve been here five years, let’s just get it out on the f—ing table and get it done with. Okay, I’m man enough to do that, alright.
    Our whole team’s disappointed, alright, but we have excellent players, guys working their a– off and it didn’t go well. I’ll be the same guy in front of you next week when we kick a–.”
    Rob, in typical Ryan fashion, called himself a “great coach” and said, “I will be a head coach in this league, and I will be damn successful, too.”

  49. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Pretty Rick…post 11

    Good observation. Payton would have been forced to keep Rob Ryan for starters, and that would have meant no blitzing, no pressure and no defensive stoppage, either against the run or the pass. Also, Payton would have had to draft moron JaFatass as well for his QB, if Payton would have lasted that long. etc etc.

  50. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Drexl Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Kick an old man when he’s down much?

    ……………..

    Al Davis chooses to continue working for the Raiders and making football decisions, therefore he’s as subject to criticism as anyone in football, especially considering his performance in recent years.

  51. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    What’s crazier, Sarah Palin thinking that Eureka college is in Eureka, CA (no speech editors???) or that Sarah Palin was able to bring in more money than any other speaker ever at Stanislaus State, including more than Michelle Obama?

    …………

    What’s odd about that? Almost all of California outside of the SF and LA metro areas is republican. Getting info from right wing websites just makes you dumber, Vegas.

  52. MistaBrown Says:

    Wrong.
    _____

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    What’s odd about that? Almost all of California outside of the SF and LA metro areas is republican. Getting info from right wing websites just makes you dumber, Vegas.

  53. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, did you see that dumb bytch say that about Eureka? Were you laughing? She will be your candidate to face Obama in ‘12. That can’t be a comforting thought.

  54. MistaBrown Says:

    MR when you acknowledged Pres 0ilbama was a failure the other day I gave you props.

    :D

  55. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    I honestly haven’t seen or heard it do you have a link?

  56. MistaBrown Says:

    Palin wont be my candidate she wont run even if I had to guess. I dont care to be honest. 0ilbama is out in 2012 I dont care who runs. Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Palin, even McCain could beat 0ilbama right now..

    As mad as people were with G Bush you can multiply that by 5 with 0ilbama, he is a failure.

  57. snnyjcbs Says:

    “Reportedly”?, you love to throw in Gruden. There have been many other FALSE claims that you have reported Gruden yo have said or have done over the past.

    Fact is you have no conection to Gruden what so ever and just print how you would hope Gruden would feel and act towards the Raiders.

    Gruden is and will always be a Raider, he thrashes the people on ESPN when they go overboard on the Raiders. And looks at them as the jerk no nothing media types that no very little of what they write and speak.

    As for John Fox, it is said that he went a little off his rocker when with the Raiders and did something that Al Davis has never let out to the public. They made it sound like it was something along the lines of not sound of mind.

  58. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I got my info from the Modesto Bee, if they are a right-wing website God help us all.

  59. fat kidd Says:

    Republican’s Conservative policies destroying America
    June 13, 8:44 AM Modesto Political Issues ExaminerRon BynumPrevious
    Get alerts when there is a new article from the Modesto Political Issues Examiner. Read Examiner.com’s terms of use.

    Symbol of Corporate Greed & Destruction
    wikimedia commonsAmerica is experiencing the result of Conservative policies that nearly caused a financial meltdown, killed workers, and despoiled the environment. Conservatives incite anger toward Democrats and President Obama because they can no longer allow corporate interests to operate without regulations while they let the common people wallow in poverty. The results of Republicans’ conservative policies are destroying America.

    Between the financial meltdown the country is just starting to emerge from, and the spate of man killing disasters like the West Virginia mine explosion, the Deep Water Horizon explosion and subsequent oil blowout, one would think Conservatives would quietly fade away, but that isn’t the case.

    Actually, it is the exact opposite. Conservatives convince half-witted people that current problems are the result of the Obama Administration, and their audience lacks the mental resources to think for themselves about why America is in the predicament it’s in.

    Conservative Republicans are consistent in using people’s fears to mask the damage they have caused with deregulation and laissez faire corporate attitudes. They convinced the simple-minded followers to protest against stronger regulations on the banking industry and corporate rapists who damaged the economy, and tricked teabaggers into protesting against higher taxes in spite of the fact that Obama cut taxes for 95% of Americans.

    Conservative Republicans have provided reasons to never allow them to lead again, and yet, in spite of disastrous results, they have disciples willing to arm and fight for their policies. The results of Conservative policies are disastrous for the country and every citizen, so it’s curious that people who live in the Gulf Coast region still think it’s a good idea to drill for oil without regulations; just because conservative Republicans tell them it’s okay.

    The Republican governor of Louisiana, Bobbie Jindal, wrote a letter to President Obama telling him that it is disastrous to halt the drilling in the Gulf regardless that oil is going to damage the region for years to come. The loyal, conservative Jindal still pushes for drilling while his state drowns in oil so the oil industry can continue to reap the profits they are accustomed to.

    The standard mantra of the Republican Party to remove regulations for businesses and corporations is the cause of the Deepwater Horizon oil-well blowout, the West Virginia mine explosion and a long list of travesties the American people have suffered while corporations enjoy record profits.

    If the result of Conservative policies that harm America and its citizens are a record to admire and brag about like they do in Modesto, then conservatives are evil people. It can only be one of two things. Either conservative Republican devotees are stupid and out of touch with reality, or they deliberately abuse and cheat the American people.

    Based on their record, hypocrisy, and lack of veracity, the only conclusion is that Conservatives are evil and deliberately allow corporations to rape America for profit; it is, after all, the conservative way.

  60. priesttj Says:

    Wrong again MR you don’t know me. Everything I ever heard was very similar to what Sean Peyton said. He was petrified you could see it on his face. He was offered the job and excepted it. Mr Davis was deparate to get rid of Norv whom he hired based on Jimmy Johnson’s high recommendation. He wanted to hire Jimmy Johnson but Johson didn’t want to coach anymore and asked Mr Davis to give Norv a chance. I would tell you about Norv but their are some bad memories there. It led to my association with th Raiders to come to an end.

    But anyway Mr Davis really wanted Peyton he believed in him eventhough Peytn didn’t blieve in himself. I think it was easy to talk Peyton out of that job because quite frankly he was intimidated by Mr Davis. if you watch his offense it is a mirror of what the Sid Gilman ran when at LA Chargers. Mr Davis had designed [arts of the offense when you see Reggie Bush involved in the passing game and flexing the tE out that is the verticle principle to a T. That’s why he wanted him he knew he could atteck defenses in their weak spots and force them into bad matchups.

  61. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, Obama will win because people are tired of conservative white people.

  62. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priest, Raider PR tried to say that Payton was never offered a job.

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, you come in here every day and recite all of the Republican talking points. You have to remember that not everyone in here is a dumb Davis worshiper.

  64. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priest, nobody’s afraid of Al Davis. When people say that they’re mocking him. If they were really scared they wouldn’t even bring it up. It’s almost like when a kid’s acting tough, and you say, “oooh, I’m scared”. That’s what Payton meant when he talked of his meeting with al.

  65. fat kidd Says:

    Why did that merger take place?

    Because Al Davis was willing to challenge the NFL, something no one else has successfully done since.

    Without Al Davis’ competitive drive, there is no Super Bowl. The leagues may never have merged. Hell, the AFL might not have even survived. What’s more, Davis’s AFL pioneered innovation in the world of football. Whereas the NFL had one static camera at the 50-yard line, the AFL brought multiple cameras and mic’d the players. While the NFL stuck to a stodgy run game, the AFL produced offense-first football, introduced the two-point conversion and shared home and away gate and television receipts among teams.

    The AFL also pioneered television revenue sharing, gave black players more opportunities on the field than the comparatively racist NFL, added player names to the back of jerseys and finally put a scoreboard clock featuring the official time on a scoreboard.

    All of these ideas seem completely obvious today, but before Davis’s AFL waged war on the NFL, innovation was dead in the game of football. It took a fearless leader like Davis to make this merger happen.

  66. priesttj Says:

    Your post just proves how bad it hurts for you to see past your hatred for Mr Davis. Anyone with an onuce of objectivity can see that Peyton was intimidated in Mr Davis’s presence. I was there you weren’t. While I never saw Peyton himself I got it from a reliable source who had no reason to lie.

    If he can admit it just how sick d you have to be to argue against it. Get over yourself.

  67. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priest, nobody is scared of Al DAvis. It’s a running joke, that everyone’s in on except for Al’s worshipers, obviously. Why would anyone be scared of Al Davis? What threat does he pose? The only people who fear him are people who work for him and don’t have the skills to do anything else. Nobody else has any reason under the sun to fear him. There is nothing Al can do to them. Payton was making fun of Al.

  68. priesttj Says:

    Idiot read the man’s words I didn’t say it HE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO!

  69. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Back to the race thing again. Al Davis couldn’t care less about black people. They’re thoroughbreds to him, nothing more. Why hasn’t Al offered any shares of the team to any of his former black players? Why did he tell Tim Brown he didn’t like black athletes from Notre Dame? Al doesn’t like smart black people. Has NO use for them. He needs black dobermans and work horses. When it comes to team management and financial issues, only whites need apply.

  70. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MR you are such a mindless loser. He is the election results from 2008 for the entire country, by county. Have you ever used a fact to backup your argument? This clearly states you are dead wrong, and that right where Palin spoke the other day, is the heart of “Blue” country. Feel free to learn something from this link, but I won’t fold my breath.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html

  71. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, are you following along? tj was there and saw that Peyton was intimidated by Davis. He was there you weren’t!!!! While he never saw Peyton even though he was there and YOU we’re not is a mystery, but tj can observe still photos and see DHB isn’t fighting the ball.

    ______

    priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Anyone with an onuce of objectivity can see that Peyton was intimidated in Mr Davis’s presence. I was there you weren’t. While I never saw Peyton himself I got it from a reliable source

  72. priesttj Says:

    If you’re dumb enough to think someone would go into the restroom by himself and hyperventilate. Repeating “I belong here” who are they talking to? besides the guy in the mirror.

    This is pointless convince yourself that the sky is purple………………………….and leave sane people alone.

  73. Just Fire Baby Says:

    “Almost ALL of California, except SF and LA”

    That’s one for the archives.

  74. MistaBrown Says:

    No, he has not.
    ______

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    MR you are such a mindless loser. Have you ever used a fact to backup your argument?

  75. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And of course Peyton was nervous. Hell he probably would have been nervous with ANY team, being that it was his very first interview as a HC candidate.

    When people apply for jobs that would represent the highest paying job they ever had, people are nervous. Only someone who doesn’t go through job interviews wouldn’t consider that.

  76. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, you were there in the room and MR was not in the room. You saw that Peyton was intimidated but you didn’t see him yourself, your “reliable” source told you…

    But you yourself never saw Peyton, right? Am I following you so far? Maybe if I had some “still” photos I could understand better what you’re saying, or what you are lying about.

  77. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow. Testy Testy, Vegas. You didn’t punch a hole in your wall, did you? I said most of California is Republican except for LA and SF metro areas, and it’s true. Almost all of the Dems are from those areas. The rest of the state produces mostly Republicans. If California is so liberal why do we spend so much on prisons? Think before you type. And try not to get too angry. Wow. I’ve never seen you like that. I can almost hear the shrill, the whimpering, the crying. Calm down, baby.

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    58 counties in California, with 36 voting “Blue”.

    But of course 22 out of 58 is almost all of California.

  79. priesttj Says:

    lil sista some can and some can’t don’t hate me cause I’m good.

    word travels fast in a biulding it was no secret. That’s prbably why he admitted it in his book. But he was the first many coaches come there and spnd too much time trying to prove to Mr Davis that they belong there instead of coaching the team. Even Bill Walsh said that.

  80. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priest, I’ve got news for you, and this is going to be rough. Peyton never went to any bathroom to catch his breath. He made that up. He’s mocking the notion that Davis is tough, sort of like you’d pretend to be scared of a kid if he was putting his dukes up playfully. Same thing. Nobody is scared of Al Davis. Why would anybody be scared of Al Davis? It doesn’t even make sense.

  81. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Can’t attack the argument so attack the arguer.

    That is from the handbook of I have lost the debate 101.

  82. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, your spinning doesn’t work with me.

  83. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    California is mostly Democrat by almost a 2-1 margin why do you think the state is bankrupt with the highest tax rates in the Country? Look no further than the liberal legislature that all you libtards re-elect time after time. You can include or eliminate all the counties you want. Registered voters are registered voters.

  84. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, are you resorting to name calling already? STrange behavior for an old man…

    You said you were there in the room, then you said you didn’t see Peyton. How about a clarification without name calling? Wadda ya say tj ? Give it a GO!

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Spin = facts that don’t jive with my rhetoric

  86. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re the one who brought up the irrelevant thing about The First Lady. Had nothing to do with the topic at hand. We were talking about Palin and her dumb ass comments about Eureka college. In some futile attempt to defend her, you bring up something about how much is spent on public speaking. I think you were just trolling anyway.

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SF and LA are liberal, that’s it. Rest of the state is conservative. Where do you dumb asses think the Republicans in the legislature come from? Vegas, since you’re on a full Republican talking point kick today, look up Arnold’s numbers per county, if your’e going to use particular elections as proof of which counties go which way politically. But you won’t do that because you have an agenda, you weasel.

  88. MistaBrown Says:

    VOTER REGISTRATION IS UP: DEMOCRATS STILL MORE NUMEROUS; INDEPENDENTS REACH NEW HIGH.
    At the close of registration for the May 2009 special election, 17.2 million of the 23.4 million eligible voters in the state were registered to vote: 45% as Democrats, 31% as Republicans, 20% as independents, and 4% with other parties.
    _______

    Like I said almost 2-1

  89. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My point was that this dingbit is still able to be a top fundraiser in the heart of liberal CA.

    I was in essence, making fun of the people that support her. Sorry to try to get you to think a little, lesson learned, won’t be so naive to do it again.

  90. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, you’re a Republican. You think everything is liberal.

  91. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re also a loser at the casinos, Vegas.

  92. fat kidd Says:

    what about purple lips schwarsenager thought he was a republican governor!!!!!

  93. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, the Dems have held the majority in the cal legislature for a long long long time.

    Do you have some stigma with facts?

    _____

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    SF and LA are liberal, that’s it. Rest of the state is conservative. Where do you dumb asses think the Republicans in the legislature come from?

  94. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, you can try to pull up all the numbers you want to spin it. Bottom line is that California spends more money than most countries on locking people up. SF and LA are the only places that are liberal. Only places in the state where you can talk liberal politics at the grocery store without some fat redneck getting angry. It’s true.

  95. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    He has some strange fascination with both Clintons so where did you get the idea he is a Rep?
    ____

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Vegas, you’re a Republican. You think everything is liberal.

  96. souldogdave Says:

    A lot of bellyachin’ crybabies today.

  97. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    MR, the Dems have held the majority in the cal legislature for a long long long time.

    ………….

    Most of those dems are from SF and LA. White Republicans are dumb. You keep proving it.

  98. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Governor election, Arnold smoked that Angelides clown.

    So yes, I will cede you that. That was never my point so not afraid to say you are right there.

    But what about presenditial elections? Clearly the majority of the state voted “Blue” this past election. Are you saying that all of these “REd” counties went and punched Barack Husein Obama’s ticket? Not a chance.

  99. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That’s right, MB, I forgot. Vegas is a puma. He’s their only male member, but he’s loud and shrill and he will never forget Obama doing his Hillary wrong.

  100. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, what spin? Facts are facts, not in your world but for the rest of us.

    Here is the link for the cal legislature. Look for yourself… DEM DEM DEM DEM DEM REP DEM DEM REP DEM DEM = bankrupt over taxed business fleeing state wrecked by liberals.

    Click the link I dare you..

    http://www.assembly.ca.gov/clerk/MEMBERINFORMATION/memberdir_1.asp

  101. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, stop being stupid. LA and SF are liberal, rest of state is conservative. Your political views are like your betting, just dumb.

  102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And look where those Dems are from, MB. SF and LA, most of them. MB, you’re white, you’re republican, you’re stupid. Not a good mix.

  103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Never voted for a Repub, at any level, in my life.

    For the first time in my life, I just registered to vote in my new state, and didn’t put Democrat. Went with no party.

    Voted Hillary in the last primaries, AS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.

    But hey facts, who needs them right?

  104. MistaBrown Says:

    lol ok I keep proving I’m dumb with “facts” and you keep shooting from the hip not hitting a single target.

    MR, at least you don’t resort to name calling. I’ll give you that. Poor tj cant stop himself. You both are liars though.

  105. MistaBrown Says:

    Good, so you admit you were wrong. You lie. You have no use for facts & your off on some new spin that I will ignore.

    :D
    ___

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    And look where those Dems are from,

  106. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Spin doesn’t work with smart people, you idiots. You guys don’t know anything about California politics. Both of you need to get off your Obama hate train because it’s making both of you as dumb as Palin.

  107. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Your political views are like your betting, just dumb.

    ****************************

    Go look under your couch, get whatever money you can find, get a paypal account and let’s do this.

  108. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, were you in the room or not?

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, Obama’s going to win huge because dumb white people are scary.

  110. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Now that TJ is no longer talking about Jamarcus, I have become a big fan.

    Let’s just forget that happened.

  111. fat kidd Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    Never voted for a Repub, at any level, in my life.

    For the first time in my life, I just registered to vote in my new state, and didn’t put Democrat. Went with no party.

    Voted Hillary in the last primaries, AS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.

    But hey facts, who needs them right?

    …………………………pip pip cheerio good for you keep voting democrat and dont buy in to that republican bs

  112. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, are you still pretending to be a gambler? Give it up. You’ve been exposed so many times for being a wannabe in that regard.

  113. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m not buying into Republican or Barack’s BS.

    Not sure which one is worse, but I do care about the damage Barack is doing to the Dem party. I could care less what the Repubs do to theirs.

  114. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Fat Kidd, Vegas comes in here every day reciting Republican talking points. I’d be hesitant to buy the Hillary thing. But he does sound like a puma chick with all of his Obama hatred.

  115. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    Vegas, are you still pretending to be a gambler? Give it up. You’ve been exposed so many times for being a wannabe in that regard.

    ***********************************

    Really…than why don’t you cease the opportunity to take my dough?

  116. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    You learned tonight:

    A- The Cal legislature is Dem controlled (hence the fk’d up state.

    B- Majority of reg istered voters are Dem by almost 2-1

    C- tj was in the room but saw nobody

    D- JFB is NOT a Rep afterall

    Tomorrow we might work on your geography or math skills. You will soon be a productive member of society.

    Thank me very much!

  117. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh my god, when will he quit? Vegas, you are NOT one of those people who knows what’s up. One of those smart guys who knows the edge. Not with gambling, not with politics. GIVE UP! It’s not you. When you say Obama is hurting the Democratic party you reveal that you have no clue what you’re talking about. Humble yourself and just admit you’re a dumb bumpkin from Tracy on a desperate mission to be someone, and you’ll at least be honest. The more you try to sound like an insider, be it with sports or politics, the more you prove yourself to be a stupid kid who’s in over his own head. Stop for your own good.

  118. MistaBrown Says:

    The end

  119. Just Fire Baby Says:

    All right that is enough ranting and raving for one night.

    Anyone complaining about the political talk can stick it. I posted a lengthy Raider topic in #47 and got crickets. Tell me I’m wrong, agree, disagree….nothing.

    Just politics and Al Davis sucks, so I jumped in.

  120. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, thanks for giving us the dumb white Republican take on California politics tonight.

  121. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas, stop pretending you’re one of the smart people in the world. You get that figured out, and who knows where you can go from there? Got to start at one, and you’re trying to start at 10. Doesn’t work. And it’s transparent. Notice how you called yourself a Democrat tonight yet recited the same dumb Republican nonsense as MB? That’s what happens when you’re in over your own head. Someone smart like me catches you and sh its down your throat.

  122. MistaBrown Says:

    JFB no offense but everything you said on 47 has been said 100 times or more already.

    0ilbama is taking a wrecking ball to the Country so this is it until camp opens.

  123. fat kidd Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    Vegas
    ……………………….are you going senile i looked thru all the post and their is not one person with the name vegas.but you keep saying vegas.

  124. MistaBrown Says:

    The only news right now is and this is 4 or 5 year old news….Peyton ate a cold cheeseburger because he was too scared to ask for a microwave. Why tj didnt warm up his cheeseburger is unknown at this time.

  125. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    FAt kid, ‘Just Fire Baby’ used to go by Vegas Raider, until he lost all of his money at the slots and moved to Colorado.

  126. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, right wing radio has taken a wrecking ball to your brain.

  127. MistaBrown Says:

    Fat Dump,
    I understand there is no abc spell check or grammar fixer upper for you but you must know when to use “their” or “there” or “are” or “our”. Every time I read your post which is less & less I feel like we all got a lil dumber each time.
    ____

    fat kidd Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    i looked thru all the post and their is not one person

  128. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Your post just proves how bad it hurts for you to see past your hatred for Mr Davis. Anyone with an onuce of objectivity can see that Peyton was intimidated in Mr Davis’s presence. I was there you weren’t. While I never saw Peyton himself I got it from a reliable source who had no reason to lie.

    If he can admit it just how sick d you have to be to argue against it. Get over yourself.
    ==========================
    You “were there”?
    You “got it from a reliable source”??
    riiiiiiiiggghhhht!!

    You’re so full of crap.
    Seriously..you’re a bold faced LIAR.
    Dude..you make up crap as you go along, and when you get caught? YOU DISAPPEAR, OR REFUSE TO ADDRESS IT.

    that’s why you have ZERO credibility.
    I, and others, engage back and forth, tossing out comments or not..but only TWO POSTERS ON THIS BOARD have zero credibility, and that’s you and Oakglen. (his dozen other current handles not withstanding)

    Want PROOF OF YOUR ZERO CREDIBILITY, SPAWNED BY YOUR TOTAL MADE UP BS?

    Jhill (think it was him) on a lark, for fun, made up a story about JR being “juiced” or “on the juice” (something on that order) because, as he stated “things were slow, and just wanted to see where it would go”

    YOU THEN CAME ON AND STATED “Oh, yeah, I knew it. Actually knew it all along. I suspected it from the start, and had A COUPLE OF MY GUYS FOLLOWING HIM AROUND, and reporting back to me on what they saw. All I can say is he better lay off that stuff.”

    REMEMBER THAT, TJ?

    Your sorry lying ass took a MADE UP STORY, and stated that you KNEW ALL ALONG..and that you had him followed.

    In other words, you’re a lying ass dog.

  129. fat kidd Says:

    okay i did not know ,you had me scratching my head!!!who the heck is vegas.

  130. MistaBrown Says:

    tj ?

  131. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
    Fat Dump,
    I understand there is no abc spell check or grammar fixer upper for you but you must know when to use “their” or “there” or “are” or “our”. Every time I read your post which is less & less I feel like we all got a lil dumber each time
    ………………………..yes thats correct with each post you get a little dumber.

  132. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas is a Davis shill and a Republican Obama hater who tries to pretend he’s neither of those things, and does a pretty bad job at it. He also likes to pretend he’s a high roller.

  133. fat kidd Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
    Fat Dump,
    I understand there is no abc spell check or grammar fixer upper for you but you must know when to use “their” or “there” or “are” or “our”. Every time I read your post which is less & less I feel like we all got a lil dumber each time.

    spellchek=lil correct word is little

  134. MistaBrown Says:

    I think tj broke his own record. One post about being in the room but seeing nobody drove him to his liquor cabinet.

  135. priesttj Says:

    boy such personal attacks i’m offended………

  136. Richochet Says:

    MaddenMoron?
    Question…are you at that “give up on life” stage?
    You know..where you basically are a disgusting slob?
    Sit in your room, gut dragging on the ground, telling yourself one of these days you’re going to ’start exercising’, maybe ‘fill out an application’..maybe even shave?

    Talking about it is the first step to recovery.

    Ok..after me..”Girls are good. They can be nice.”
    Now you try it.

    Ok…now say “There is more to life than sitting on my fat ass, posting on a blog 12 plus hours a day, every day of every week.”

    Finally “When people call me a disturbing hermit, they aren’t really kidding. Maybe I should go outside sometimes.”

    Baby steps, Doofus.

  137. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Don’t worry, priest. The morning after the 2012 election MB will have killed himself, so there’ll be one less person calling you names.

  138. priesttj Says:

    Boy, how someone can twist “I was there” into I was in the room is beyond me. But you’ve reached a new level of spin. In the biulding doeasn’t mean in that room. There are upwards 30 rooms in that biulding. I would’ve never been allowed in THAT ROOM. I was told what happened by a reliable source.

  139. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet..

    Seriously, when will you get a life? peanut. wimp. punk. chump. sissy. I’ll hang you on your locker by your underwear. you live alone. you’re unemployed. your wee wee bends awkwardly to the left….all by your self admission! your wife is boning a 19 year old street dancer. Your son is gay. your daughter is an anorexic. All by your admission! Then, you’re here, all day. Every day. Saying one stupid childish thing after another, trying to be cool. And your’e 60. That’s sad. Peanut. Wimp. Skallywag. Nincupoot. Doofus.

  140. fat kidd Says:

    this is a no spin zone..

  141. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    boy such personal attacks i’m offended………
    =============================
    Don’t weasel out.
    Are you DENYING IT?

    Are you denying that you lied? That you stated you knew all along about it? That you “had Russell followed by a couple of your guys”??

    ARE YOU DENYING IT?
    Of course you aren’t, because it’s easy enough to post links.

    Like I said, NO CREDIBILITY.
    If someone accused me of the above? Which basically proves you know NO ONE, that you aren’t involved with ANYTHING REGARDING THE RAIDERS, and you sure as hell aren’t in the know?
    If I ACTUALLY WAS, I WOULD DEFEND MYSELF.

    You won’t, because you can’t…BECAUSE YOU’RE A FRAUD.

    Save the lies about “I was there”..because YOU LIE.
    You make up crap as you go along, and stupidly get caught at it.

    Just like Oakglen gets caught with all of his numerous handles.

    You’re both too stupid to avoid getting caught..just the way it is.

  142. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Priest,

    listen to what Richochet is saying.

    You’re a peanut. A wimp.

    No credibility.

    Denying it?

    Of course you aren’t.

    Like I said, No credibility.

    you’re just too stupid.

    Just the way it is.

    Peanut. Wimp. Punk. Poopy head.

  143. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Boy, how someone can twist “I was there” into I was in the room is beyond me. But you’ve reached a new level of spin. In the biulding doeasn’t mean in that room. There are upwards 30 rooms in that biulding. I would’ve never been allowed in THAT ROOM. I was told what happened by a reliable source.
    ===========================================

    riiiiight….

    Now..how about Russell being “juiced”?

    What room were you in then, when you run your line of BS?

    I mean, how sorry is that to state you actually “knew all along, and had him followed”???

    ON A MADEUP STORY??

    well?

  144. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    St. Peter?

    you sit up here, all day. Taking orders from Jesus. Not cool. Peanut. Moron. You sit here, ask people to tell you their life stories. Want people to beg you to get into heaven. That’s sad. You’re single, by your own admission. You have no skills. You’re a retard. Think that’s cool? It’s not. Just the way it is. Moron.

  145. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO at MaddenMoron…

    “LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE…HEY…LOOK AT ME…TALK TO ME…DON’T LEAVE ME…PLEASE, PLEASE, DON’T LEAVE ME”

    MR? You have my permission to follow me.
    Just pick your gut up off the floor.

    BTW..pretty much dead on, wasn’t I?

    LMAO that you probably cringed, cussed me out, and are proving how much it stung as you post your silly “I’m so intimidated” replies.

  146. MistaBrown Says:

    You were there! You didnt see him! You were in a room alone ? Day dreaming ?

    tj if you were in the building how come you didn’t know JaMeatball was being released ?
    ______
    priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    I was there you weren’t. While I never saw Peyton himself I got it from a reliable source

  147. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richchet, do you take this woman to be your wife?

    “Moron. Douchebag. What do you think? No, I don’t. I just came here for the food. Rented tux, jsut for the looks. Peanut. Idiot. Moron. “

  148. Richochet Says:

    One thing TJ is IS CONSISTENT.

    When he gets called out on one of his lies?
    HE TUCKS TAIL AND RUNS…

    EVERY SINGLE TIME.

    And yes, TJ, we all know you’ll be peeking in, to see when it’s safe to come back, lol…

  149. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, it’s your new baby. Want to hold him?

    “Peanut. Moron. Wimp. Little punk. You pee, you cry, you pee some more. Should have had abortion. You sit here in my arms, while I rock you, like a loser. You shyt your pants, admittedly! That’s not cool. Idiot. Moron. “

  150. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, any final words for dad, before they pull the plug?

    “Old fart. You smell. Not cool. You haven’t had a hard on for 40 years. Sad. Hope it doesn’t run in family, but I’m afraid it does. My wife bangs a 19 year old thug, because I can’t get it up. Thaks for the genes. Loser. Chump. Peanut. “

  151. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    TJ tucked tail and ran from Richochet! Woo hoo, go get ‘em, Richochet! Another one that done tucked tail and run! Wooooooooo hooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVPASJmeMU

  152. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wooo hooooo ,…

    Yipppeeeee yeee haw, look at him go, hon. Look at him go! His name’s Richochet! Damn he’s bad!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVPASJmeMU

  153. Richochet Says:

    Now, while TJ loves to hide, MaddenMoron, on the other hand, revels in getting stepped on.

    What’s the longest you’ve posted, in one day? I mean, all day, MR?
    A what point to you accept the fact you’re a loser?
    Would you state that someone was the ultimate lazyass loser who actually posted from the hour of 9am until 9 pm, pretty much each and every hour, outside of eating?

    Well?
    how about from 9 am until 10 pm?
    Big time loser..right?

    From 9 am until 11 pm? Can anyone be THAT SORRY IN LIFE?

    HOW ABOUT from 8 am until 11pm?
    Can someone honestly be THAT FREAKING PATHETIC?

    How about from the hour of 7 AM until AFTER 11 PM, EACH AND EVERY HOUR, EXCEPT FOR STUFFING HIS FATASS WITH FOOD??

    Can you imagine ANYONE being that much of a nobody?

    I know someone like that…you!!

    Can you be a bigger blight on the planet?
    Seriously..from the hour of 7 am up until almost midnight…

    Damn..sucks to be you, MaddenMoron.

  154. priesttj Says:

    Lil Sista

    you obviously didn’t read my post prior to his release. While I can’t say I knew it for a fact, I knew the probability was strong. I also agreed with it prior to his release.

    Jamarcus deserved to be released his refusal to re-negotiate was STUPID.

  155. Richochet Says:

    BTW..where’s my $100?

    Oh man..all of the above…AND A WELCH??

    Ouch..you got even uglier.

    Oh..wait..no job.
    IF you paid up, you’d have to hit mommy up for the dough…forget it.
    Feeding you no doubt has tapped her out.

    GET A JOB, YOU BUM.

  156. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Look at him go, hon! Look at him go! Hot dam he’s great! Keep on ‘em, Richochet! Keep on ‘em. Woooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Hon, did he just look at you? OK you can stop looking at him now. Where are you going, babe?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwfzZYhieo

  157. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    THE BUM’S LOST!

  158. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO..Yep, there’s TJ, HOPING NO ONE SAW THE FACT HE GOT CAUGHT LYING about having anything to do with the Raiders.

    You have no balls, little man.

    You’ve perfected the hiding..but backing up your words?
    You’re a coward, nothing more..

    And a liar.

  159. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Nobody fuc#s with the Richochet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONyLZn0pLI

  160. priesttj Says:

    Fat Kidd

    how is it you endure these guy’s day in day out? The ranting and raving and false accusations. I’m ashamed of their behavior. And I had such high hopes…..sad

  161. Richochet Says:

    You know you own someone’s ass when they’re reduced to posting youtube links, hoping it masks the fact they just got beyotch slapped.

    You think anyone got confused?

    Or are they laughing at you?

    You think you saved face?

    Or did you just stoop the the lowest of pathetic lows?

    No reply necessary, mama’s boy.

    We all know the answer, lol.

    The fun part?
    I get to pour in the salt. :)

    Remember that when you push all the empty potato chip bags off your mattress as you roll over to go to sleep.

  162. fat kidd Says:

    priesttj Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    Fat Kidd

    how is it you endure these guy’s day in day out? The ranting and raving and false accusations. I’m ashamed of their behavior. And I had such high hopes…..sad

    ……………………….i just laugh this website is funnier than a barrell of monkeys

  163. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    How do you know when you’ve owned someone’s ass, richochet? Hot damn, I love him, hon. I’m so glad we came to see this. TELL THEM, RICHOCHET. HOW DO THEY KNOW WHEN THEY OWN SOMEONE’S ASS? heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haw!

  164. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    He called him a mama’s boy, hon. Get down hot damn he’s the baddest summa bytch i ever seen. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  165. Richochet Says:

    TJ: “false accusations”??

    did you REALLY just state that?

    Oh..lol…I think what you mean is you want PROOF that you lied like a tool?

    You should have shut up, old man…pretty hard to tell everyone not to believe their lying eyes.

    You’re a liar, and a fraud.

  166. priesttj Says:

    Fat Kidd

    post#131 is fah lol

  167. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # fat kidd Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    ……………………….i just laugh this website is funnier than a barrell of monkeys

    …………

    Where Richochet met his wife, right?

    Owned.

  168. Richochet Says:

    I think MR’s still a little miffed since I outed him…well, actually, he outed himself, I just reminded him of it.

    is that it, Quadraphonic Buttcheeks?

  169. Richochet Says:

    September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
    ================================

    No wonder you admit to never having a girlfriend.

    You aren’t interested in girls..obviously.

    Nasty…

  170. Richochet Says:

    MR? Is that it?
    You being confused sexually has you retreating?
    Hiding?
    Staying in the safety of mommy’s house?

    there are groups that can help you cope with this.

    Seriously.

  171. fat kidd Says:

    oh no i missed kieth olbermans worst person in the world!!!

  172. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Quadraphonic Buttcheeks

    …………………

    Your high school band. I remember you talking about that. Sorry I never heard any of your tunes. I don’t listen to disco.

    Owned.

  173. Richochet Says:

    September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
    =================================
    Does anything else need to be said?

    So..when you go on dates..let me guess?

    You carry the purse..right?

    Thought so…I mean…it’s so….”you”

  174. Richochet Says:

    TJ: “What can I say?? Dang…oh man…I should have shut up. Why did I make up that stupid story? No one believes me anyway..and now I look even more pathetic than MR…OMG..HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?? No one looks more pathetic than MR…oh, I should not have made the comment about “false accusations”..if he posts a link…I’M SCREWED.”

    You would be right, TJ :)

  175. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet and the Quadrophonic Buttcheeks

  176. fat kidd Says:

    NASA Shuttle Commander: No Sex in SpaceUpdated: 1 day 13 hours ago
    Print Text Size EmailMore
    Michelle Ruiz
    Contributor

    AOL News (June 28) — There were plenty of starry nights, but a NASA commander says there was absolutely no sex in space during a mission that brought three female astronauts to the International Space Station.

    Space Shuttle Discovery commander Alan Poindexter spoke definitively today on the outerspace romance ban during a trip to Tokyo, where he and his team discussed their two-week resupply mission in April.

    “We are a group of professionals,” Poindexter told a reporter when asked about consequences for space sex. “We treat each other with respect and we have a great working relationship. Personal relationships are not … an issue. We don’t have them and we won’t.”

    The mission was groundbreaking because four women, including Naoko Yamazaki, the first Japanese mother in space, were in orbit at the same time. Three of Poindexter’s six crew members were women. They joined the space station, where a woman also was on board.

  177. jmeds Says:

    Children, quit throwing the crayons and making a mess. *Back to the scheduled programming*

    Sean Payton, huh? Al has an eye for them.

    Al Davis may have been very hardheaded up to this point, but I think he got the memo. The obvious as in let your coaches coach and take their input on picks and personnel. We trimmed alot of fat and should be greatly improved this year RRRRAAAAAIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEERRRSSSSS!

  178. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet and the Quadrophonic Buttcheeks

    Album: Greats Shyts

    1. Love Machine Listen
    2. Right Back Where We Started From Listen
    3. Native New Yorker Listen
    4. Finally [Live] Listen
    5. Car Wash Listen
    6. You Make Me Feel Like Dancing [Live] Listen
    7. Dancing Queen [Original Recording] Listen
    8. Young Hearts Run Free Listen
    9. Back off Boogaloo [Original Recording] Listen
    10. Boogie Oogie Oogie

    http://www.amazon.com/Richochet and the Quadrohonic Butt Cheeks/dp/B0017LFKP6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1277877495&sr=1-1

  179. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    owned.

  180. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    JMeds, you’re right, Al Davis got the memo, and decided NOT to retire.

  181. fat kidd Says:

    Various teams are kinda sorta not really interested in JaMarcus Russell
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 29, 2010 5:03 PM ET
    It’s quiet on the JaMarcus Russell front, but here’s the best we can do.

    Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork writes that the Jets have been “monitoring” JaMarcus Russell and even checked under his rock. (Big rock.)

    But the interest appears to be “cursory” and a union is highly unlikely. Here’s where it gets interesting.

    Cimini writes that the Vikings and Cardinals are Russell’s most likely destinations, according to sources. (It’s important to keep in mind that “most likely” still means unlikely in this case.)

    Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that the chances of Russell landing in Minnesota are not high, which should be obvious enough just by looking at the depth chart. Then again, Zulgad finishes his post like so:

    “It’s believed that if something is going to happen with Russell it might take a while to play out,” he writes.

    That line indicates at least a scrap of interest, which is more than we’d expect from Minnesota. Either way, this sounds like Russell’s agent trying to drum up business. We think it will take a while for any “cursory” interest in Russell to turn more serious.

    A while could mean 2011.

  182. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The day Al Davis is serious about letting other people control the Raiders is the day he retires and hires a GM. Richochet, take us out with a Buttcheeks cover of More Than A Woman.

  183. fat kidd Says:

    Bill Clinton says: “Blow up the well”
    Discussions on energy related breaking news.

    Bill Clinton says: “Blow up the well”
    by Plantagenet » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:44 pm

    Bill Clinton just discussed the BP oil spill in an interview with Wolf Blitzer. Clinton says lots of interesting things about what the federal government should be doing……a few quotes:

    –”the most important thing thing is to fix the leak”
    –”blow up the well”
    –”send the navy down there”
    –”conventional weapons”
    –”the navy could probably do it”

    Given the fact that Clinton is VERY well connected with the Obama administration, this could be seen as Clinton acting as a senior statesman and putting up a trial balloon for the idea of using the Navy to plug the leak —and perhaps even acting on behalf of the Obama administration to get this idea before the public

    On the other hand, maybe Clinton has lost it and doesn’t know what the heck he is talking about.

  184. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Say, where that Charged up Pu Degrahc?

    DEA investigating Chargers doctor…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/ap_on_sp_ot/dea_chargers_padres

  185. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Go Bruce!!!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  186. djohnnyg Says:

    RMR said:

    “priest, nobody’s afraid of Al Davis. When people say that they’re mocking him. If they were really scared they wouldn’t even bring it up. It’s almost like when a kid’s acting tough, and you say, “oooh, I’m scared”. That’s what Payton meant when he talked of his meeting with al.”

    You are seriously a nutcase. You are an embarrassment to yourself. I used to think you had some credibility, but I can see you just some loser who hates Al Davis and will resort to any and all ridiculous lies to make a so called “point”. I notice that most things you claim as “facts” are just you deciding to make it up and say it, such as the Peyton thing. You say (with no actual facts to back it up) that Peyton was joking when he said he was hyperventilating in the bathroom saying “I belong, I belong, I belong”. The only “facts” we have is that Peyton actually wrote that in a book. He also WROTE (in black and white so that even retards like you can read) that he was nervous. You say that ‘no-one is nervous about Al Davis. Why would they be”? Well, not sure why, maybe it has to do with Al’s reputation or whatever but the FACT is Peyton said it and there is NOTHING to suggest he was joking, as you say. All you do is make stuff up. For once, why don’t you back up something you say with something remotely resembling PROOF? You know why? cuz you never have any. All you have is your ridiculous bluster and delusional, made up statements. All you have is blind hatred for Al Davis. What he do? Did he dump your mother when he saw YOU? Yeah that’s it. And that is a known fact for evryone in the real world, outside of the delusional made up world you lived in. I know for a fact that it is common knowledge. You need to wake up.

  187. fat kidd Says:

    Cops Accuse Donald Duck of Driving Drunk

    AOL News (June 29) — Donald Duck is a jailbird now.

    Police in Massillon, Ohio, arrested a drunk driving suspect who shares his name with Disney’s most famous waterfowl.

    Law enforcement officials say 51-year-old Donald Norman Duck was intoxicated when he pulled into a drive-through pizzeria around 5:25 p.m. Saturday and repeatedly bumped the car ahead of him,

  188. Richochet Says:

    Wow…talk about getting someone randy?

    I remind MR of him admitting he’s got the hots for Jeff Garcia:

    September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
    ==============
    Adding the nickname he’s gotten from those walking behind him “Quadraphonic Buttcheeks” and I’ve gotten MR on a JeffGarcia meltdown..

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    Richochet and the Quadrophonic Buttcheeks

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    take us out with a Buttcheeks cover of More Than A Woman.
    ================================
    Just the THOUGHT of Jeff Garcia in his little tight jeans woke MR up, lol..

    Didn’t you also state how Jeff looks “really good in Silver and Black”??

    Whatever rocks your boat, MaddenMoron

  189. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Wow…talk about getting someone randy?

    I remind MR of him admitting he’s got the hots for Jeff Garcia:

    Just the THOUGHT of Jeff Garcia in his little tight jeans woke MR up, lol..
    =================================================

    # Richochet Says:
    March 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    Seriously, though, Tim Tebow does make me hard.

  190. Seymour Bush Says:

    Looks like wacky-sheeit has hit a new low in hypocriticism.

  191. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Johnny, do you honestly think Payton was serious when talking about how he was scared of Al? What would he be scared? What could he possibly be afraid of?

  192. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    “The hots” for Jeff Garcia. More disco talk. Richochet, what was the Butt Cheek’s favorite tune to cover?

  193. Seymour Bush Says:

    Actually post #189 completely renders everything wacky wuss ever says as completely irrelevant. Captain Wuss has to either

    a) admit that Tebow makes him hard

    or

    b) admit that trolls make posts rendering his constant “cross posting” diatribes meaningless.

    It HAS to be either A or B.

    Which one is it Captain Wuss?

  194. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet was in a bad mood tonight. He spent the entire afternoon giving his wife a bath and clipping her paws.

  195. Violent Hands Says:

    hahahaha clipping her paws..hes a funny guy

  196. LT DAN Says:

    Good afternoon/morning Nation

  197. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Cheeseburgers and coleslaw? At least Al Davis keeps it real.

  198. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    OMG a new post? Wow…

    However…The Jets are looking at JaMarcus Russell? Really? He’s in AZ trying to stay in shape? Realy?

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_15405363?nclick_check=1

    Have at it…

  199. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.YES HWNRDR,THE N.Y. MEDIA WILL BE ALL OVER MR.RUSSELL IF HE LANDS THERE..

  200. hwnrdr Says:

    Shoot…I think Spike Lee and P. Diddy will be on him like flies on…
    Good Morning btw, Dirt Lot!

  201. LT DAN Says:

    Guess we can always use another pass rusher. http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/06/25/schobel-likely-done-in-buffalo-looking-for-trade

  202. La Milicia Negra Says:

    good afternoon Lieutenant Dan

  203. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Payton says that Davis conducted the interview while wearing a black sweat suit. Nothing else about the process went as expected, either, according to Payton.
    “Al is an extremely talented football guy. Few owners who interview can really talk about a defensive front, team travel and the salary cap,” Payton said. “He can hit on all these topics.”

    ***

    Al Davis = STUD!

  204. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The interview lasted into the night, which prompted Davis to suggest that they grab a quick meal.
    “You like cheeseburgers?” Davis asked Payton.
    “Of course I do,” Payton said.
    Davis ordered an assistant to make a McDonald’s run for some cheeseburgers and some cole slaw from Kentucky Fried Chicken.

    ***

    Al Davis is cheap!

    at least we know those rumors are true …

  205. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Steve Corkran,

    thanks for the new post!

    3700+ posts = torture for daily bloggers

    Adam Schefter = DHB fan

    http://tweetphoto.com/29826918

  206. hwnrdr Says:

    Al Davis is cheap!

    at least we know those rumors are true …

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hey, nothing wrong with that…wait I mean…I guess that showed Payton that he wasn’t going toget paid…

  207. Saints coach Payton recalls interview with Raiders Says:

    [...] [...]

  208. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar, LT DAN, AB Paine…

  209. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Tom Cable gets cold cheesburgers and cole slaw from KFC, what do Hue Jackson & John Marshall get?

    candy bars 3 for $1 with a glass of milk at room temperature???

  210. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning AM crew!

    Hwnrdr, LMN, Dan, ABP, Dirt Lot …

  211. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait Rockstar…Sean Payton got a cold cheeseburger and cole slaw…Tom Cable got French Fries and Water

  212. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Southwick would never let those burgers get cold…

  213. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Bo…
    He has one of those pizza warmers?

  214. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Good morning fellas..

    HwnRdr, Dan, ABP, RRS Dirtlot…

    I a bit proud, how i almost predicted the target of the previous thread…

  215. hwnrdr Says:

    Afternoon to ya LMN…
    You were close…wait didn’t you say 3700? Wasn’t it that?

  216. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable got French Fries and Water

    ***

    LOL. yeah, I forgot about him being a lifelong Raider fan with a terrible W/L record as college HC. promotion from within, too …

    Al Davis probably did get a discount on him. haha

    perhaps a cup of coffee?

    no biscotti!

  217. J Wiggle Says:

    LOL at cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw

  218. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I a bit proud, how i almost predicted the target of the previous thread…

    ***

    almost doesn’t count

    Rocky ALMOST got knocked out in every major fight in every one of those movies.

    3710 was the magic number and I’m sure that’ll shrink by more than 10 posts when Becker returns and attempts to clean up the place

  219. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HwnRdr..

    yup… I said 3700… so ten from the final result…

  220. J Wiggle Says:

    candy bars 3 for $1 with a glass of milk at room temperature???

    ——————————————————

    no shyt, huh?

    What happened to the catering crew? Isn’t this a global multi hundred million dollar establishment here or what?

  221. hwnrdr Says:

    I don’t think Becker will waste his time with that thread…wait…maybe he will…it is Becker we’re talking about, right?

  222. J Wiggle Says:

    Rocky ALMOST got knocked out in every major fight

    —————————————————–

    Who ?????

  223. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL at cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw

    ***

    Jwigg: if I ever make it to CA for a Raider game and Russell/Warren/Miller/Morrison film session at your mansion I expect nothing less than cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw …

  224. hwnrdr Says:

    Catering crew? Is that those buys in the yellow shirts who sell the fans popcorn and ice cream?

  225. J Wiggle Says:

    Davis ordered an assistant to make a McDonald’s run

    ——————————————————-

    This shyt is HILARIOUS to me.

    Wait a minute, I thought there were In N Outs in Oakland?

  226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What happened to the catering crew?

    ***

    Jwigg: it’s called Hometown Buffet and JaFranchise almost put them out of business!

  227. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought there were In N Outs in Oakland?

    ***

    The chain only had 18 restaurants in 1976 …

    Al Davis has probably never heard of them

  228. J Wiggle Says:

    Catering crew? Is that those buys in the yellow shirts who sell the fans popcorn and ice cream?

    ——————————————————-

    LOL ….

  229. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait a minute, I thought there were In N Outs in Oakland?

    Haha…that’s what makes Al more of a cheapskate!

  230. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 7:15 am
    I thought there were In N Outs in Oakland?

    ***

    The chain only had 18 restaurants in 1976 …

    Al Davis has probably never heard of them

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

    That’s a good one, Rockstar!!!

  231. J Wiggle Says:

    at your mansion I expect nothing less than cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw …

    ——————————————————

    Corndogs and Funyons mayne …

    5 year old does the grocery shopping around here. Or it sure seems like she does.

    (taking notes?)

  232. J Wiggle Says:

    Russell/Warren/Morrison film session

    ——————————————————

    Who ??????

  233. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Corndogs and Funyons mayne …

    5 year old does the grocery shopping around here. Or it sure seems like she does.

    (taking notes?)

    ***

    thats cool. I’m good with a poptart & a juicebox

    I should start taking notes

    had our first “official” ultrasound yesterday. it’s a boy!

    he’s already on the FFA waiting list

  234. J Wiggle Says:

    Cold McDonald’s cheeseburgers, and cole slaw from KFC ?????????!!!!!!!!??????!!!!!!!

    Aw man you can’t make this shyt up, lol!

    Who’s the dumb assistant who didn’t get the cole slaw first so the burgers could still be hot?

    I bet you if the dumb assistant brings In N Out, Peyton never leaves without signing a contract.

  235. hwnrdr Says:

    Congrats!!! Rockstar Jr.?

  236. BigTed707 Says:

    Word Up Nation!
    Sign Mawae!

  237. hwnrdr Says:

    Wiggle…that’s what I’m saying…

  238. J Wiggle Says:

    Congrats man!

    I hope your wife doesn’t let you name him Kirk.

  239. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who’s the dumb assistant who didn’t get the cole slaw first so the burgers could still be hot?

    ***

    EASY! EASY!

    Al could never find a replacement for John Herrera.

  240. J Wiggle Says:

    I bet you Herrera was the dumb assistant. Who else would be hanging around Al’s office that time of night?

    Can’t imagine much personell other than Alice the longtime secretary from a guy on a cheeseburger (cold ones mind you) and cole slaw budget.

  241. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hope your wife doesn’t let you name him Kirk.

    ***

    LOL!

    what about Darrius or Johnnie Lee?

    can’t name him Zach. he wouldn’t be able to BLOCK the declawed cat from running outside. hehe

    right Jwigg?

  242. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I bet you Herrera was the dumb assistant. Who else would be hanging around Al’s office that time of night?

    ***

    OUCH!

  243. J Wiggle Says:

    Al could never find a replacement for John Herrera.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly!

    Herrera was probably starving, lol, and HAD to hit Mickey Ds up.

    Double QPC, super sized … Uh make that 2 of those, with a 7 up …

    Oh yeah, and 10 of those cheeseburgers

  244. J Wiggle Says:

    what about Darrius or Johnnie Lee?

    ——————————————————-

    Might want to refer to Dakota’s list of name. Darrius and Johnnie Lee might get a few applications rejected before they even get in the door.

    I’d go with something simple along the lines of Chris, Alex, John.

    Hell if you really want to give him a head start, you could go with something uppity like Blair, Blake, Slade, Hunter, Parker, or something like that.

  245. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: I was just thinking of Raider names

    I wouldn’t go with anything like Chris, Alex or Blair. not even Sam or Ryan because chicks are using those names now

    Chris = Christina
    Alex = Alexandra or Alexandria
    Sam = Samantha

    etc etc

    I like Hunter, Jaxson & Logan

  246. Raider O Says:

    I like Hunter! I’m going to name my son Abraham!

    Good Morning Nation

  247. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning O!

    your wife is preggo too?

    we’re trying to figure out a way for her to stay at home with him after he’s born. no daycare. no babysitters. no working part time or working from home

    tough decisions to make in the next 5 months

  248. J Wiggle Says:

    I like Hunter, Jaxson & Logan

    ——————————————————-

    Logan is a cool name …

    I don’t know about action Jaxson though, lol.

  249. Try Cheating Says:

    Good Morning, all. Any of my favorite Communists out there?

  250. BigTed707 Says:

    Some funny shh yte here last night.

    I particularly like how MB told Fat Kidd he needed a “grammar fixer upper”.

  251. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd does need a grammar fixer. What up, Big T?

  252. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    No she is not now, but maybe soon.
    I can tell you from exp:
    1- if you can afford to, try to have your wife spend the 1st 2 years at home with the child.
    2- money doesn’t last, but you can see your family to heaven.
    3- no babysitters or daycare. Talking Monkeys ate everywhere, and you don’t want them teaching little Hunter their values!!

    Good luck, and God Bless you!

  253. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning TC, Ted …

    the exchanges between MR & Rich were pretty funny too imo

    and I’m still waiting on SeyGlenn’s prediction for the Cleveland Browns with masterminds Holmgren & Ryan running the show

  254. Try Cheating Says:

    Hey RR!

  255. Raider O Says:

    In heaven*

  256. BigTed707 Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Good Morning, all. Any of my favorite Communists out there?
    ____________________

    LOL, Don’t call me a Pinko, you Fascist!

    ‘Morning Cheat :)

  257. J Wiggle Says:

    we’re trying to figure out a way for her to stay at home with him after he’s born. no daycare. no babysitters. no working part time or working from home

    ——————————————————-

    Good luck with that man!

    For REAL!

    Your kid will be so better off for it.

    Think outside the box with it. Online sales via ebay is a damn good way to go about it. Get a wholesalers license, for example, buy a bunch of tee shirts, socks, lamps, rugs or whatever and don’t try to break the bank on the flip. Without trying, that’s 200-300 a week.

    Another idea, might be to start a nice garden and sell produce. Tomatoes, corn, lettuce, and shyt like that gorws FAST! Don’t know how much property you have out there in Podunk, but it doesn’t have to be anything big.

    Whatever you do, don’t let the cable go!

  258. Try Cheating Says:

    BigTed707 Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am
    # Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Good Morning, all. Any of my favorite Communists out there?
    ____________________

    LOL, Don’t call me a Pinko, you Fascist!

    ‘Morning Cheat

    LOL

  259. Try Cheating Says:

    I see it is all quiet on the Raiders front.

  260. BigTed707 Says:

    ‘Grats RR! and Good Luck!

  261. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Don’t know how much property you have out there in Podunk, but it doesn’t have to be anything big.

    ***

    Jwigg: our place has just over an acre, but my in-laws own about 18 acres with access to the river and have said they’ll give us 5 acres to build a house out there, if we want it. WAY rural out that direction right now. no power poles, well or septic system. just land. we hunt on it right now, in addition to the land we lease for hunting each year. also nice to go set trout lines or limb lines for channel cat or flatheads

  262. Try Cheating Says:

    RR, I would be building a house.

  263. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks for the advice Jwigg & Raider O!

    got to weigh some options …

    Maybe i’ll open a store called ‘Podunk Unlimited’ to compete with Bass Pro & Cabelas ???

    haha

    i’m going out to gig frogs tonight

  264. Raider O Says:

    LMN,

    Argentina vs Germany should be a great game.
    Go Argentina!!

  265. J Wiggle Says:

    my in-laws own about 18 acres with access to the river and have said they’ll give us 5 acres to build a house out there, if we want it.

    ——————————————————-

    That’s they type of shyt that’ll get me to leave Cali.

    18 acres ????

    River ????

    Yeah, I’d be building a house and commuting the kids to school.

  266. RaiderRockstar Says:

    PITTSBURGH (AP) Steelers offensive tackle Willie Colon will have surgery Wednesday to repair a torn right Achilles’ tendon and is expected to miss the season.

    Colon was injured while working out on his own at the Steelers practice complex on Monday. The Steelers haven’t officially ruled Colon out for the season, but such an injury typically sidelines a player for at least nine months.

    Rookie tackle Chris Scott, a fifth-round pick, also will have surgery Wednesday to repair a right foot injury that occurred while he was training in Tennessee.

    With Colon likely out until 2011, the Steelers will explore bringing in an experienced offensive tackle.

    Flozell Adams visited yesterday …

    ***

    I’m glad we have some insurance in case Mario Henderson gets hurt!

    Barnes, Veldheer, Campbell & Pears can all play LT …

  267. M Lonetree Says:

    guys, you are slipping, Corkran gave a segue to :

    trade DMc for a cold cheeseburger and some bad coleslaw!

    or are you holding out for more gourmet fare?

  268. M Lonetree Says:

    and sometime in the not too distant future in Podunk, U.S.A. –
    “I christen this child Humuhumunukunukuapua’a Rockstar. Amen.”

  269. BigTed707 Says:

    In Al’s defense, Where else are you gonna get a cheeseburger in Alameda at 11pm?

    How late is Nation’s open?

  270. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: I barely have time to build a storage shed before my son is born.

    Summer officially started on 06/21 and it’s been in the 80’s and 90’s and I finally just began the process of cleaning the pool yesterday!

    building a house myself would be a massive task unless I could get into business with my brother n law. set up a business or two to run themselves and kick back. as of right now it’d take me 5 years to build and then I’d have to hope a tornado doesn’t come before then and tear that sucker down. haha

  271. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I drive a 94 Altima since 96. I don’t buy a lot of new things, and I live in an avg area to save money on rent. It’s not the best life in terms of materials and comfort, but we are a POOR but Happy family.

    I will be a banker, and I will stick it to Preppie!!

  272. BigTed707 Says:

    trade DMc for a cold cheeseburger and some bad coleslaw!
    __________

    Is there really any other type of coleslaw?

  273. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “I christen this child Humuhumunukunukuapua’a Rockstar. Amen.”

    ***

    LOL @ M!

    how about “Humuhumunukunukuapua’a” as a middle name ???

  274. BigTed707 Says:

    Great day to be a Raider fan! 10-6 Baby!
    Have a good 1 y’all!

  275. Try Cheating Says:

    Raider O, you are an honorable man…we need more Americans like you.

  276. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: I wouldn’t say that we’re well off by any means, just comfortable.

    If my wife quit her job all together, which is what her and I both want … I would need to make a few sacrifices in addition to a few minor adjustments

    are you really going to school to become a banker? I thought you were pursuing a degree in accounting? CPA

  277. LT DAN Says:

    Congrats RR and RO. I have four kids and my wife is a stay at home mom. Its tough financially but we feel its worth it. It is a difficult decision.

  278. Raider O Says:

    J,

    Can you imagine growing weed in Podunk on 18 acres and a river.

    Oh happy day!!!

  279. Try Cheating Says:

    Raider O, material goods do not provide lasting happiness. If you are happy, then you are ahead of the game. You are teaching a valuable lesson to your child/ren.

  280. Try Cheating Says:

    You too, Dan

  281. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    Thank you.
    BTW, I’m not that honorable. I’m just cheap. lol

  282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: I’m only 27 and I blow through vehicles like JaMarcus does popsicles!

    ‘85 Cadillac Coup DeVille, ‘98 Chevy S10, ‘74 GMC (muscle truck), ‘92 Dodge Dakota, ‘99 Acura Integra, ‘00 Chevy Silverado, ‘05 Dodge Stratus

    Integra was my wife’s (foreign made) and she bought it before we met. please don’t hold that against me!

    nothing fancy – just reliable

  283. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Can you imagine growing weed in Podunk on 18 acres and a river.

    ***

    Raider O: do I have a business partner ???

    haha

  284. Try Cheating Says:

    To me, living a spartan life is honorable, and a valuable lesson to children, whether self-imposed or not.

  285. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O, you are an honorable man…we need more Americans like you.

    ***

    Agreed, wish I could have attended a Raider game with him in SD with walrus costumes on

    that would have been hilarious, but now that JaButterworth is gone we’ll have to adjust back to winning games for enjoyment

  286. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Banker thing is a joke to F with preppie. I’m doing my MBA after this, and then work in Corp finance for a few years. I want to work for an American co in the Mid East, and then come back here as an investor.

    RR, TC, LD, and others,

    You have to know what you want of this short stay (85 years!!! I know trees that live longer), and you have to work hard to get it. I want a happy family, good health, good brain, and comfort. I’m working on the 1st 3 now.

  287. RaiderRockstar Says:

    cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw = steak & lobster in Podunk!

  288. Try Cheating Says:

    RR, start saving for your retirement now. Invest in a good mutual index fund, save your cash, and don’t buy a new car every two years. By the time you are in your 40s, you will have amassed quite a sum.

    Be a good saver not consumer

  289. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I want a happy family, good health, good brain, and comfort. I’m working on the 1st 3 now.

    ***

    O: trade Nick Miller for southern comfort!

  290. J Wiggle Says:

    my in-laws own about 18 acres with access to the river and have said they’ll give us 5 acres to build a house out there, if we want it.

    ——————————————————

    My man!

  291. J Wiggle Says:

    Can you imagine growing weed in Podunk on 18 acres and a river.

    ——————————————————

    Only if it’s legal there too …

    Or maybe if the local sheriff is a friend of Rockstar, lol!

  292. J Wiggle Says:

    ‘85 Cadillac Coup DeVille,

    ——————————————————

    playa playa ….

  293. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO
    Farming is honest and hard work!

  294. J Wiggle Says:

    I can see RR rollin around Podunk in his caddy …

    http://images.lowridermagazine.com/features/0704_lrmp_06_z%2B1979_cadillac_coupe_deville%2Bdriver_front_view.jpg

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Be a good saver not consumer

    ***

    TC: it’s hard when your little country bumpkin wife wants to go clothes shopping every other day!

    how many sh0es, purses & earrings have a person have and actaully use? not to mentiom the essentials

    I wish she would collect sexy underwear that way so we could both enjoy them!

    at least we have ZERO credit card debt

  296. J Wiggle Says:

    On another note …

    WTF is up with these cats and the these tight arss nut huggers?

    ANY guy wearing skinny jeans is suspect in my book!

  297. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    I can tell from your few posts today that you understand the game.
    Don’t be a consumer!!!! Be an Investor!!!

  298. Try Cheating Says:

    O…indeed!

  299. J Wiggle Says:

    TC: it’s hard when your little country bumpkin wife wants to go clothes shopping every other day!

    ——————————————————-

    Wassup with these Texas women ?!?!?!

    My wife is dropping hints everyday about a new Jeep 4 door hardtop “for her kids”, lol.

    Says “at least I’m not asking for a volvo or BMW!”

  300. Try Cheating Says:

    Wiggle, they are not men.

  301. RaiderRockstar Says:

    playa playa ….

    I can see RR rollin around Podunk in his caddy …

    ***

    LOL. not really man. I was 16 and it was my first car

    bought it from a guy who used it to drive clients around and show houses or something. said he was in real estate I think

    it was either buy a car or go to Germany (took 4 years in high school) …

    was the first of any of my friends to drive or buy a car. it was a no brainer. sweet ride. cush seats and you could drive 85-90 with it feeling like you were only driving 30-40 mph

    I put a sound system in it, like a total dweeb

  302. J Wiggle Says:

    Don’t be a consumer!!!! Be an Investor!!!

    ——————————————————

    Well, it’s a fine line.

    Some of our investments have taken a beating over the last 3 years of so.

    Damn sure wish I had spent some of that change instead of investing it.

  303. Raider O Says:

    People,

    If you save you money, then you can invest it in sec, property, etc…
    If you keep those investments for a year or more, then they are taxed at STD rate of 15%.
    now imagine making a 100k+ per year, and pay no more than 15K in taxes!! I love it!!!

  304. Try Cheating Says:

    Wiggle, a Jeep is a pricey vehicle. You have to realize you will be financing for between 5-6 years. That is a lot of money when you also consider the value of that vehicle diminshes by 20% once driven off the lot. Buy a used car; status is meaningless.

  305. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My wife is dropping hints everyday about a new Jeep 4 door hardtop “for her kids”

    ***

    LOL! good luck Jwigg. you know how wives are

    she’ll catch you in a weak moment and then BAM!

    she’ll get what she wants :)

    I told my wife that after my truck is paid off she can get a Chevy Trail Blazer or Avalance instead of minivan – something safe & sporty that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to drive!

  306. Try Cheating Says:

    O, that will not be the case in January 2011. The Bush tax cuts expire. Those tax rate will go from 15% to 40%.

  307. J Wiggle Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Wiggle, they are not men.

    ——————————————————-

    LeBron was just on First Take shooting FTs against some pizza delivery guy with some tight arss shyt on. Even the pizza dude and some other metero stud was on there with those things on too.

    Maybe I’m bias because I’m fat, lol! I wouldn’t look good in those things at all. Not to mention the knots being uncomfortable.

  308. Try Cheating Says:

    O, that will not be the case in January 2011. The Bush tax cuts expire. The tax rate will go from 15% to 40%.

  309. RaiderRockstar Says:

    maybe if the local sheriff is a friend of Rockstar

    ***

    funny you mention that.

    I have met him on Sunday 06/20 actually. haha. really cool guy

    no law enforement in Podunk. we ARE the law enforement. everybody owns a gun and will use it if need be

    i’m good friends with some guys at the volunteer fire dept too

  310. Try Cheating Says:

    Wiggle, I was at a Vietnamese restaurant in an eclectic part of town. Let me just say most of the guys were wearing those jeans, and they all looked feminine. It’s not my generation

  311. J Wiggle Says:

    You have to realize you will be financing for between 5-6 years.

    ——————————————————-

    Not me, my friend. Probably cash some things out and just pay for it.

    Status ????

    LOL. I, with the emphasis on ME, drive a 98 Camry with 200k miles on it because I’m too cheap to buy a new car.

    Wifey ?????

    Who different animal.

  312. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t get why dudes would want to wear tight jeans either …

    I dress for comfort. and if we’re going out to dinner with somebody my wife will dress me, haha

  313. J Wiggle Says:

    The Bush tax cuts expire. Those tax rate will go from 15% to 40%.

    ——————————————————

    I’m sure there will be some new loopholes my tax lady comes up with to keep my 5 figure refunds coming, lol!

  314. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    I know income tax will go up again, but are you sure Cap Gains tax will increase too?

  315. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m sure there will be some new loopholes my tax lady comes up with

    ***

    loopholes? I need her name & number please!

    haha

  316. J Wiggle Says:

    it was a no brainer. sweet ride. cush seats and you could drive 85-90 with it feeling like you were only driving 30-40 mph

    ——————————————————-

    If I do ever break down and buy myself a new car, I’m without question going with a Caddy. That DTS is SWEET!

    Maybe in 2018 when the last kid is out of the house.

  317. J Wiggle Says:

    check that ..

    2028.

  318. Try Cheating Says:

    O, yes…they are going up.

  319. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    As you can tell, I’m not an investor in this country. lol
    I buy property in Jordan. Their currency is Based on $ value, so you don’t have to worry about FX rate, and it’s a developing country so prices keep going up regardless of how the economy is doing.

  320. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe in 2028 when the last kid is out of the house.

    ***

    Jwigg: your not kicking your daughter out until she’s 23?

    giving her time to wrap up a 4-year degree? Bachelors

    the pressure is on! haha

  321. Dakota Says:

    What a great new post…no wonder we can’t hire anyone of quality.

    Didn’t Al Davis once say he wanted to run the classiest franchise in sports or something like that?

    Does he consider conducting interviews in his PJs and ordering Herrera to get some cheap take out food classy?

    Wal-mart’s hiring policies are probably classier than Al’s!

  322. Try Cheating Says:

    O, very interesting. Jordan does not have many natural resources. Do you invest in rentals?

  323. Raider O Says:

    J,

    If you are paying cash, buy a used one. If you are financing, buy new and get the 0% for 60 months.

  324. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    Yes. They have a great market for rentals. You buy an apt for 25K and rent it for 2500 per year. Build a house for about 200K, and rent for 30-40k per year. It’s never less than 10%, but the real money is in commercial property and rentals. Build and rent shops, 20-25% return.

  325. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Does he consider conducting interviews in his PJs and ordering Herrera to get some cheap take out food classy?

    ***

    Dakota: we’re sending a limo to go pick up Randy Moss from the airport, but grabbing some cold burgers from McD’s for Head Coaching candidates and keeping them up past midnight to talk about the greatness of the Raidahs?

    something wrong with this picture …

  326. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    That’s why I’m going to Haas school of buisness. It will look great on my Resume/CV, and I will give the American investors 10-15% return, and they will love me for it, and I will keep 10%. It’s also good to sell the property every few years and buy new ones. You make another 30%- 100%+ on your original investment.

  327. RaiderRockstar Says:

    also wined & dined JaWalrus (who ordered fish) when he had no say in whether or not he’d end up in Oakland as the #1 pick

  328. Raider O Says:

    TC,

    It’s always easy to liquidate too. Banks give 60% of property value with no credit, and 100% with good credit. Not much risk.

  329. J Wiggle Says:

    Jwigg: your not kicking your daughter out until she’s 23?

    ——————————————————

    Have a 6 month old

  330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rathman took DMAC to a SF Giants game, I think … which means he probably just got a hotdog

    DHB got nothing. came in for a workout. his hands checked out. reached for him

  331. J Wiggle Says:

    If you are paying cash, buy a used one

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    Hey RRS, could you please tell O about these Texas women again!

    Used car?

    LOL!

  332. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hey RRS, could you please tell O about these Texas women again!

    Used car?

    LOL!

    ***

    Jwigg: my wife is from Missouri, so I don’t know much about Texas women … but yes country girls do like nice things. thier philosophy = spend it if you got it!

  333. Raider O Says:

    J,

    Buy a new one and get the 0%. it’s a great time to buy.

  334. Dakota Says:

    Just found out our Caddy had a blown head gasket…foook me.

  335. Try Cheating Says:

    I have a philosophy for southern women: hit em’ if they open their yaps!

  336. J Wiggle Says:

    hit em’ if they open their yaps!

    ——————————————————

    Uhhh …

    What ?????

    What generation are you from again?

    Thumb rule is a bit outdated, lol.

  337. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Just found out our Caddy had a blown head gasket…

    ***

    The engine should be pulled. Re-tapping the head bolt holes MUST be done. At a typical dealer, it’s a $3500-$5000 job, with I believe a 40-hour book.

  338. WESTRAIDER Says:

    Oakland Raiders MADDEN 11 RAITINGS

    Wide Receivers and Tight Ends
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG
    80 Z. Miller TE 86 78 77 66 80 83 90 85 93 67 85 87 74
    18 L. Murphy WR 75 93 91 59 91 67 91 88 86 72 92 78 72
    81 C. Schilens WR 73 92 94 55 89 66 88 70 83 77 94 79
    15 J. Higgins WR 70 94 96 48 93 65 89 79 92 88 89 77
    86 T. stewart TE 69 66 78 69 63 74 66 75 75 67 54 75 66
    85 D. Heyward-Bey WR 68 97 98 63 88 58 88 85 90 65 93
    83 B. Myers TE 66 72 76 65 74 55 82 82 90 75 75 73 70 6
    12 J. Ford WR 60 97 95 40 95 42 80 75 84 79 88 69 55 82
    17 J. Holland WR 56 90 88 46 89 36 80 60 90 70 91 67 49
    19 T. Watkins WR 52 90 93 37 86 44 82 55 90 49 88 67 52
    Running Backs
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG JM
    29 M. Bush HB 77 84 85 79 82 68 65 88 84 70 75 79 84 85
    20 D. McFadden HB 77 94 95 67 87 65 75 75 74 85 90 69 6
    25 R. Cartwright HB 69 82 88 78 75 79 50 78 84 80 52
    44 L. Lawton FB 60 82 85 74 82 52 75 82 89 60 70 73 74
    Quarterbacks
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG
    8 J. Campbell QB 83 70 67 59 69 74 90 90 92 79 67 37
    5 B. Gradkowski QB 67 70 72 49 71 69 90 74 91 64 66 35
    3 C. Frye QB 65 68 74 55 72 65 90 88 93 65 54 25 68 77
    Offensive Linemen
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ
    76 R. Gallery LG 82 59 82 89 56 75 85 94 79 57 40 91
    64 S. Satele C 79 62 82 84 65 71 82 90 94 70 65 85 82
    75 M. Henderson LT 79 60 70 87 59 76 78 84 94 75 60 82
    66 C. Carlisle RG 78 56 64 87 63 82 76 88 92 54 34 85
    70 L. Walker LG 77 46 66 93 47 80 65 78 85 45 18 87 80
    69 K. Barnes RT 76 62 82 90 61 77 78 77 93 61 28 88 76
    74 B. Campbell LT 72 75 94 90 75 30 79 55 85 72 77 80
    51 C. Morris C 71 52 55 86 50 72 72 90 86 70 36 84 80
    72 E. Pears RT 70 60 74 83 61 67 75 87 89 62 29 85 75
    68 J. Veldheer RT 68 68 79 90 67 31 75 85 95 72 67 83 8
    63 B. Rodd RG 67 50 65 86 54 58 70 75 90 55 28 82 76
    Linebackers
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG
    96 K. Wimbley ROLB 82 79 93 77 82 72 87 75 93 89 84 83
    55 R. McClain MLB 79 81 87 78 77 67 91 93 96 85 79 88
    53 T. Howard LOLB 78 88 84 75 86 77 97 80 96 75 87 85
    91 T. Scott LOLB 77 79 86 76 73 70 84 90 94 65 75 79 78
    57 R. Brown MLB 70 76 78 73 76 75 74 80 92 54 62 82 57
    54 S. Wiliams ROLB 63 80 84 72 76 70 72 70 84 70 75 71
    58 S. Norris ROLB 56 73 82 68 74 45 72 85 88 54 55 73
    50 I. Ekejiuba MLB 50 75 84 75 79 62 74 70 88 65 72 72
    Kickers and Punters
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ
    9 S. Lechler P 98 60 62 33 52 93 94 60 85 60 96 94
    11 S. Janikowski K 90 64 65 55 60 84 84 65 68 94 98 88
    Defensive Linemen
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG
    92 R. Seymour LE 92 68 79 91 70 93 85 85 86 84 51 87
    93 T. Kelly DT 78 63 74 88 59 72 79 84 84 78 63 80 83
    77 M. Shaughnessy RE 72 73 84 82 69 64 85 88 80 75 63
    98 J. Richardson LE 71 74 82 82 69 75 84 77 88 65 80 78
    99 L. Houston DT 70 72 82 77 70 40 80 72 82 79 70 74
    52 Q. Groves RE 68 83 90 70 82 52 77 86 92 80 84 64 54
    94 W. Joseph DT 66 59 79 87 62 59 60 80 85 70 65 80 66
    90 D. Bryant DT 66 64 77 79 64 49 69 75 87 70 65 74
    Defensive Backs
    NUM NAME POS OVR SPD ACC STR AGL AWR STA TGH INJ SWG
    21 N. Asomugha CB 98 93 94 69 94 95 99 88 93 89 96 70
    33 T. Branch SS 86 93 90 64 85 75 94 80 94 84 92 45 79
    24 M. Huff FS 78 93 94 60 92 67 90 80 94 82 95 67 61
    37 C. Johnson CB 76 97 95 52 90 70 91 76 89 64 88 60
    31 H. Eugene FS 72 83 86 66 81 67 92 78 92 66 80 57 75
    34 M. Mitchell SS 68 87 86 67 85 49 84 91 90 87 87 54 7
    26 S. Routt CB 67 95 94 47 89 68 86 74 92 78 86 53 45
    22 W. McFadden CB 64 93 90 38 93 45 84 69 90 85 87 49
    36 J. Thomas CB 56 87 86 57 87 60 86 85 78 64 91 65 54

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota -

    if in fact the headgaskets are in need of replacing the current labor time for replacing is 20.3 hrs,depending on what the hourly flat rate is,say 90-100 dollars per flat rate hour your looking at around 2500 dollars parts and labor.if the work is done by a qualified shop,i would recommend a Cadillac dealership to do the work,and if its a Goodwrench Plus Dealership then it will carry a very good warranty on parts and labor,plus it will be done right the first time,depending on the rest of the engine condition and maintinance has been kept up it will last the life of the car itself.

  340. J Wiggle Says:

    Dakota …

    Sounds like you need to ship the Caddy to RRS. He needs to make some money on the side anyway and I’m sure he can beat the dealer’s ticket.

    Might sit up for a minute though as he has a pool to clean and a shed to build first.

  341. RaiderRockstar Says:

    its 18 hours just to remove engine and thats not including dissassmebly and parts, yes the engine has to come out.

    as of right now, $700 parts, $2300 labor.

    Reference: cadillac tech

  342. Dakota Says:

    I’d rather drive that car off a cliff than put 5K into it lol.

  343. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d rather drive that car off a cliff than put 5K into it

    ***

    3-5K

    at a dealership you get quality work at a higher cost, unless it’s still under warranty

    at what looks like homebody’s house with tires in the front yard and a guy that doesn’t speak english? cheaper cost & questionable service. probably have to bring it back at least once

  344. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 9:48 am
    I have a philosophy for southern women: hit em’ if they open their yaps!

    ………………………..try hitting a women in front of me and i will slap your little punk ass around!!

  345. RaiderRockstar Says:

    somebody’s house*

    LOL

  346. RaiderRockstar Says:

    try hitting a women in front of me and i will slap your little …

    ***

    fatty: you mean some liberals do have character or integrity?

    thats rare!

  347. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, you can’t spell your name, so I doubt you could protect anyone. But I’d love to give you a chance to prove yourself. And to those who think I was serious about hitting a woman, lighten up, it was a joke. Some of you here are very strange.

  348. fat kidd Says:

    the difference between a liberal and a conservative,liberal earns his money thru hard work ,a conserative steals from the old and poor.

  349. RaiderRockstar Says:

    fatty: I will slap you around

    TC: I doubt you could protect anyone. But I’d love to give you a chance to prove yourself.

    ***

    cat fight!

  350. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:19 am
    Fat Kidd, you can’t spell your name, so I doubt you could protect anyone. But I’d love to give you a chance to prove yourself. And to those who think I was serious about hitting a woman, lighten up, it was a joke. Some of you here are very strange.
    ………………………..i wouldnt smack you around to defend someone,nope i would do it for pleasure.

  351. RaiderRockstar Says:

    liberal earns his money thru hard work

    ***

    bwahahahahaha!

  352. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
    fatty: I will slap you around

    ………………..pack a lunch!!!!!!!!!!!!

  353. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, a highschool dropout, inherited money and property. I don’t believe that is the definition of hard work, do you? What did you earn before this windfall? For you, yeah, that was probably hard work. Tell us again about “veitnam” Which chow hall did you peal taters in each day? Ya Rube!

  354. Dakota Says:

    Rockstar,

    Mechanic said it MIGHT just be a blocked purge line…small chance, but worth looking into.

  355. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, during the Vietnam War you were shoveling shyte in Louisiana! What other work can a turd like you do?

  356. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 9:08 am
    Wiggle, I was at a Vietnamese restaurant in an eclectic part of town. Let me just say most of the guys were wearing those jeans, and they all looked feminine. It’s not my generation

    ………………………….at least i gont look at guys in tight jeans like you princess.

  357. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, you stand about 5′9″ tall and weigh a 190 lbs. You had better not be threatening anybody, lil’feller. You might just find yourself a couple inches shorter. Just sayin’

  358. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd says, “at least i gont look at guys in tight jeans like you princess.” What is “gont.” Hey, Mr. Potato head, shut the fluck up! You is IGNANT!

  359. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:30 am
    Fat Kidd, you stand about 5′9″ tall and weigh a 190 lbs. You had better not be threatening anybody, lil’feller. You might just find yourself a couple inches shorter. Just sayin’

    ……………………………..wow i am shakin from a little punk ass who slaps women

  360. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, tell us how many taters ya peeled in “veitnam”?

  361. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating ,try being a man instead

  362. Try Cheating Says:

    I shall return!

  363. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am
    I shall return!

    ……….who cares!!!

  364. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota:

    Check the purge line to the surge tank and make sure coolant is flowing.

  365. RNOraiderFan Says:

    WOW! a new post!

  366. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Radiator upper hose cool, lower hose hot?

  367. J Wiggle Says:

    cat fight!

    —————————————————-

    Purses ????

  368. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Com’on guys, Internet gangsters, cars. Lets talk some Raider football.

  369. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Anyone wooried about our D? It seems we have better players now, but with so many changes in personel is this team going to gel?

  370. RNOraiderFan Says:

    wooried? lol worried.

  371. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lets talk some Raider football

    ***

    alright RNO. specific topic please

  372. J Wiggle Says:

    Not worried about the D at all …

    Top 10 defense easily. If our offense does anything, top 5!

  373. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    This has been a wonderful offseason for the team. For this blog, not so good…

  374. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: purses indeed!

  375. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Dline 2-3 starters from last year. LBs 0-1 starters from last year. DBs 2-3 starters from last year. I see up to 7 new faces on defence this year, is that too many?

  376. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:39 am
    Radiator upper hose cool, lower hose hot?
    ++++++++
    I am not sure. Here is what happens, the car normally runs between 196 and 206 degrees…in the last 4 months the coolant began to overheat when driven for about 1 hour with the AC on and the car begins to automatically idle the engine. If the AC is turned off, coolant usually stays in the normal range, but did overheat once with AC off.

    No steam or smoke coming out of the engine.

    No noticeable white smoke coming out of the exhaust.

    Engine has shook upon startup a few times and has died upon start up a couple of times.

    No noticeable leaks of any fluids on garage floor.

    When it first happened I took it to the nearest dealership and they replaced the radiator cap thinking it might just be a pressure problem…that worked for a month or two before problems started again.

  377. fat kidd Says:

    Randall Cunningham’s 2-Year-Old Son Drowns in Family’s Hot Tub118
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    6/30/2010 10:30 AM ET By Milton Kent

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    Milton Kent

    The body of the toddler son of former Philadelphia Eagles star Randall Cunningham was found in the family’s hot tub Tuesday afternoon, Las Vegas police said.

    Christian Cunningham, 2 years old, was discovered floating in a hot tub in the backyard of the family’s Las Vegas home. A woman who was at the home discovered Christian (pictured right with Randall) around 4:30 p.m., local time and began performing CPR on the boy.

    He was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead a short time later. Police are investigating the incident, but an officer told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the drowning appeared to be an accident.

    The Review-Journal reported that Randall Cunningham was not at home at the time of the incident, and was either in San Diego or returning home. Randall Cunningham became an ordained minister in 2004 and often performed baptisms in the hot tub at his home, which he shared with his wife, Felicity and three other children.

    Randall Cunningham, who set career passing records at UNLV, played 16 seasons in the NFL, including 10 in Philadelphia, where he brought a level of athleticism to the quarterback position. He was voted league Most Valuable Player by the Pro Football Writers Association in 1990, but suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his knee the next season.

    He retired after the 1995 season, but came out of retirement in 1997. He played for Minnesota, Dallas and Baltimore before he retired permanently after the 2001 season as the all-time leading rusher among quarterbacks.

  378. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Top 10 defense easily. If our offense does anything, top 5!

    ***

    Agreed

    the o-line might need a little time to gel, with potentially 2 or 3 new starters

    Defense should be solid!

  379. RNOraiderFan Says:

    top 10 J Wiggle? I’m thinking more of middle of the pack if this unit gels. Who have the Raiders added that will allow them to jump to the top 10?

  380. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Try Cheating hits women? No surprise there.

  381. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Raiders will run the same D they ran last year. I will not believe all the hype about blitzing more until I see it.

  382. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, you do realize the only way to determine if a team had a good off season is how they do in the regular season, right? Would you say we had a good off season in ‘08, even now? I dare you.

  383. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: was it the dealership that told you it was a blown Head? and did they actually have a look at it since it was in last for the radiator cap ???

  384. Dakota Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:46 am
    Randall Cunningham’s 2-Year-Old Son Drowns in Family’s Hot Tub.
    ++++++++

    God that sucks.

  385. RNOraiderFan Says:

    New faces…
    Henderson Let go by the Jags
    Wimbley how good was the Browns D?
    McClain Rookie
    Houstan Rookie
    Scott Converted TE to DE to LB
    Mitchell Can he cover?
    Huff can he hit?

  386. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What was a 2 year old doing near a hot tub? Come on, Randall.

  387. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who have the Raiders added that will allow them to jump to the top 10?

    ***

    Houston, Groves, Henderson & more playing time for Shaughnessy & Bryant on the D-Line …

    McClain, Wimbley & Scott at LB. if Brown stays healthy and Goethel gets a little work in? bonus!

    pass D was already good and now McFadden & Ware replace Holland & Bowie

    Top 10.

  388. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
    Dakota: was it the dealership that told you it was a blown Head? and did they actually have a look at it since it was in last for the radiator cap ???
    ++++++++

    It is currently at a local dealership that is not a Caddy dealership…the guy said it was down 2 quarts of coolant and that the fans are working fine (which was his initial guess) and that he now thinks it is most likely a blown head gasket. I brought up the plugged purge line and he said that might be the problem and is going to check it out.

  389. LT DAN Says:

    I am worried about the two new olb’s there is a reason they havent been successful.

  390. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I’m thinking of a ranking around 20-14. To me that would be a great improvement. If the O can score a little then 7-9 wins is for sure.

  391. Dakota Says:

    Looks like Michael Vick has already been caught in a lie about his B-day party shooting…he was there about 3 minutes prior to the shooting.

    What a foooking idiot. I hope they nail him again.

  392. J Wiggle Says:

    The Raiders will run the same D they ran last year. I will not believe all the hype about blitzing more until I see it.

    ——————————————————-

    If u watched our defense from the Philly game on last year, you would know that blitzing is witout question part of the plan. Marshall’s defense year 2 should be sumthin else!

    Mike Mitchell on the field = blitz package.

  393. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Figures. Randall turned into a bible freak. And now we know why toddlers had access to the hot tub at his house. Jesus would save them! F****ing idiot!

    “Randall Cunningham became an ordained minister in 2004 and often performed baptisms in the hot tub at his home, which he shared with his wife, Felicity and three other children.”

  394. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Randall Cunningham’s 2-Year-Old Son Drowns in Family’s Hot Tub

    ***

    oh my!

    can never be too careful, it seems

    how could you ever forgive yourself?

  395. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If Vick didn’t pull the trigger, he’ll walk from this.

  396. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Was our pass D good? I could not really tell. I know Aso is gold, but who else is good? CJ is on the field until Al can find his replacement. Routt could be good if he starts and can use the sidelines instead of covering the slot. Mitchell and Branch are in the box type, Huff can cover but can’t tackle.

  397. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    problem is scheme, RNO. As long as Davis is in charge, defense is vanilla and giving up yards. Period.

  398. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The Raiders had a good offseason in 08.

  399. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: good to have all your options weighed

    if it’s not the purge line, and he can’t think of what else it might be I’d swing by the Caddy dealership before coughing up the dough on a HG replacement

  400. Dakota Says:

    Thanks for the advice Rockstar.

  401. J Wiggle Says:

    Was our pass D good?

    —————————————————–

    Was a lot better when the pressure started getting to the QB instead of those vanilla 4 man fronts we used to run. Pass rush will be fierce this year = pass defense top 10. A lot of picks this year!

  402. Dakota Says:

    Doc Rivers says he will return to the Celtics.

  403. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Anyone know anything about any of the rookie DBs?
    LT DAN Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am
    I am worried about the two new olb’s there is a reason they havent been successful.
    I hear that. I’m worried that while we might be better stopping the run (Not great but better) teams will now beable to pass on us at will.

  404. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Doc Rivers says he will return to the Celtics.

    ***

    Rasheed retired and Ray Allen is a free agent

    they are done

  405. LT DAN Says:

    As long as we can stop the run like we project with the addition of bigger lbs and henderson. Then we can use the pass rush specalists to advantage but if not then it will be a repeat of last years def

  406. RaiderRockstar Says:

    teams will now be able to pass on us at will.

    ***

    at will? not sure about that. MLB is the field general and he may have to cover the TE on occasion, with safety help.

    OLB’s trying to get after RB’s, FB’s and even WR’s on screen passes or short slants = trouble if Branch or Mitchell aren’t there to knock the p1ss out of them

  407. J Wiggle Says:

    Sources tell ESPNNewYork.com that the Jets have checked on JaMarcus Russell, and they have cursory interest in the former Oakland Raiders bust who was cut recently after reportedly ballooning to 300 pounds.

    Jets blog
    Looking for more information on the green and white? ESPNNewYork.com has you covered. Blog

    The Jets are looking to acquire a veteran quarterback before training camp and, while league sources maintain that free agent Mark Brunell remains the odds-on favorite, Tannenbaum isn’t ignoring other options. Russell, the No. 1 overall pick in 2007, is training in Arizona, trying to get in shape. Sources say the Arizona Cardinals or the Minnesota Vikings are the most likely landing spot for Russell, but the Jets have inquired by phone and received positive reports.

    The Jets wouldn’t be handcuffed by the NFL’s “Final Eight” rules if they decide to sign Russell; that’s because he was released by another team. To sign Brunell, an unrestricted free agent, the Jets would have to wait until late July, when the restrictions are lifted.

    ——————————————————-

    I think cold cheeseburgers and KFC cole slaw set Russell on the wrong path here.

    If this guy ends up on Az, Minn, or the frickin Jets and does ANYTHING, I’m going to be pissed!

  408. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders stop the run. lol. Don’t forget, regardless of getting some decent talent on defense, the Raiders don’t practice hard, either. They’re winded in games, usually by the second quarter. Ask Shannahan. That’s why he always ran rollout plays against us. To wear the defense out by half time. Almost always worked. That’s why his record against Al is so good. The Raiders are not going to stop the run. That’s just another one of those things you’re going to have to wait till Al Davis retires to see happen.

  409. fat kidd Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
    Dakota: was it the dealership that told you it was a blown Head? and did they actually have a look at it since it was in last for the radiator cap ???
    ++++++++

    It is currently at a local dealership that is not a Caddy dealership…the guy said it was down 2 quarts of coolant and that the fans are working fine (which was his initial guess) and that he now thinks it is most likely a blown head gasket. I brought up the plugged purge line and he said that might be the problem and is going to check it out.

    ……………………………there is a product you dump in the radiator that seals blown head gaskets and soft plugs its called IRONTITE check it out it is about 25 dollars a bottle works good .

  410. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Remember the Denver game last year? Denver sent thier WR’s on short slants and drag routes in front of our LBS and ate us up. Can any of the LBs we have now stop this type of attack?

  411. LT DAN Says:

    rmr I sure hope not. Losing is getting old but I am always excited for a new Raider season.

  412. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Russell sucks.

    no way he could beat out Mark Sanchez or even Kellen Clemens …

    his agent is probably just trying to drum up interest by throwing a few team names out there who are unsettled at QB

    at this point it’s probably the UFL or nothing. he needs to drop 15-40 pounds, depending on his actual weight. not an easy task for a lazy kid that cares more about status or fun than work and personal achievement

  413. RNOraiderFan Says:

    at will? not sure about that. MLB is the field general and he may have to cover the TE on occasion, with safety help.
    ***********************************
    Do we have one LB that can cover Gates? It seems we are always getting killed by TEs. Huff is good at that and Morrison was great at it when he played SLB. Right Now our SS and SLB are Branch and Wimbley, can either of these guys cover a TE?

  414. LT DAN Says:

    Lbs can stop that type of attack walling off the drags or crossers. Slants can be stopped with big hits.

  415. J Wiggle Says:

    OLB’s trying to get after RB’s, FB’s and even WR’s on screen passes or short slants = trouble if Branch or Mitchell aren’t there to knock the p1ss out of them

    ——————————————————

    This is where the pass rush is going to come in big time.

    Mike Mitchell will be on the field a lot = 2 LBs on the field. Scott and McClain are the likely suspects here, and Scott will most likely be rushing the passer.

    Play action out of a normal set might be our area of weakness, but our SS usually covers the TEs. I doubt very seriously that our LBs will be matched up 1 on 1 with a RB in coverage.

  416. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Damit! I’ve got to run (on call job). I love my Raiders but sometimes it sucks being a fan of a team that keeps its practices so closed off from the fans. The Raiders are like a box of chocolates, right LT Dan?
    Peace out Nation!

  417. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Will Irontite Sealant Products fix a head gasket leak?

    YES. Either the Ceramic Seal or the All-Weather Seal will repair minor head gasket leaks.

    http://www.irontite.com/faq.html#Will_Irontite_Sealant_Products

    better hope the problem is a MINOR one …

  418. J Wiggle Says:

    Remember the Denver game last year? Denver sent thier WR’s on short slants and drag routes in front of our LBS and ate us up. Can any of the LBs we have now stop this type of attack?

    ——————————————————

    I think that was game 1 which was prior to the Philly game.

    Kirk being matched up with Marshall is something we reviewed in here a lot, lol!

  419. J Wiggle Says:

    at this point it’s probably the UFL or nothing. he needs to drop 15-40 pounds, depending on his actual weight.

    ——————————————————-

    Isn’t this cold cheeseburgers and cole slaw thing a big ironic, lol!

  420. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Kirk being matched up with Marshall is something we reviewed in here a lot, lol!
    ************************************
    Ya, I almost threw my remote into the TV screen over that BS.

  421. LT DAN Says:

    Roger that RNO cya

  422. RNOraiderFan Says:

    And then he was gone….

  423. RaiderRockstar Says:

    any LB covering B Marsh = mismatch

    he wasn’t just floating over the middle or backpeddling either! Marsh was on a slant and Kirk was chasing him from behind

    thats what I like to call “blown coverage”

    either somebody screwed up and didn’t know thier assignment (BM) or the DC is an idiot

  424. Dakota Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am
    Remember the Denver game last year? Denver sent thier WR’s on short slants and drag routes in front of our LBS and ate us up. Can any of the LBs we have now stop this type of attack?
    ++++++

    I don’t see this new set of LBers being any better in that situation.

  425. DKnight007 Says:

    I remember when this happened. I was pissed.

    Payton would have turned around this Raiders franchise, but Tuna and Jones had to C-Block for no apparent reason.

    Payton wasn’t going to be the coach of the Cowgirls anyways!

  426. DKnight007 Says:

    Amare will join Lebron in Cleveland, NY or NJ.

    J Johnson might follow them.

    Bosh will probably wind up with Wade in Miami, if not Boozer or Nowitzski will.

  427. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: I don’t picture a svelte JaMarcus showing up and beating out somebody to get on the field, much less giving a dazzling performance when he finally gets a chance

    average? sure
    decent? you bet
    good enough to manage a game with a solid rushing attack and dominant defense? probably
    expecting 300 yards or 3 TD’s? never happen

  428. Dakota Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Amare will join Lebron in Cleveland, NY or NJ.

    J Johnson might follow them.

    Bosh will probably wind up with Wade in Miami, if not Boozer or Nowitzski will.
    __________’

    Nope, Lebron and Bosh will go to Chicago.

    J. Johnson and Amare to NY

    Boozer and R. Allen to Miami with Wade.

    Dirk and Paul Pierce stay with their teams.

  429. Dakota Says:

    I would love to see Wade go to NY though…the NBA would be great if NY and Chicago had decent teams again…along with the Lakers and Celtics…

  430. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LeBron & Bosh are going to join Wade in Miami …

  431. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I would love to see Wade go to NY though…the NBA would be great if NY and Chicago had decent teams again…along with the Lakers and Celtics…

    ***

    you think the Celtics can keep that team intact for another run?

    they’ll have to pick up another big (Rasheed is gone)

  432. DKnight007 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Amare will join Lebron in Cleveland, NY or NJ.

    J Johnson might follow them.

    Bosh will probably wind up with Wade in Miami, if not Boozer or Nowitzski will.
    __________’

    Nope, Lebron and Bosh will go to Chicago.

    J. Johnson and Amare to NY

    Boozer and R. Allen to Miami with Wade.

    Dirk and Paul Pierce stay with their teams

    ^^^^^^^
    I forgot about Chicago. Regardless, I’m think Amare or Bosh will for sure be with Lebron.

    I think J Johnson goes to NY and either Amare or Boozer will follow.

    Boozer will most likely wind up in Miami with Wade however.

  433. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am
    I would love to see Wade go to NY though…the NBA would be great if NY and Chicago had decent teams again…along with the Lakers and Celtics…

    ***

    you think the Celtics can keep that team intact for another run?

    they’ll have to pick up another big (Rasheed is gone)

    ^^^^^^^^
    Doesn’t matter the Celts are old and done!

    This free agency period will shift the balance of power in the East to the other teams not named the Celtics!

    Screw ALL Boston teams! LOL

  434. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:35 am
    LeBron & Bosh are going to join Wade in Miami …

    ^^^^^^^^
    I don’t see it happening.

    Lebron and Wades egos will not allow it.

    It would be Wades teams and Lebron wants his OWN team to be the leader of.

  435. RaiderRockstar Says:

    This free agency period will shift the balance of power in the East to the other teams not named the Celtics!

    ***

    I can see that happening, easily.

    plenty of big names out there …

    Amare in Boston, plus locking up thier FA’s = playoffs, maybe even finals

    Wallace out. Amare starting. Perkins off the bench

  436. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It would be Wades teams and Lebron wants his OWN team to be the leader of.

    ***

    that doesn’t matter.

    LeBron wants to win a championship and he wants to get paid …

    PERIOD

  437. Dakota Says:

    If the Celtics keep Pierce and either T. Allen or Ray Allen and then add a vet, like Shaq maybe, they will still contend…it would be the Magic, Celtics and Bulls in the east with the Lakers once again coming out of the West…and if Wade is in NY, they will at least make the playoffs.

    I did hear that the Spurs might make a push for Amare…won’t help them though…Duncan is done.

    If Oklahoma can get a decent big they might be interesting, and if Portland stays healthy they could push the Lakers.

  438. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    It would be Wades teams and Lebron wants his OWN team to be the leader of.

    ***

    that doesn’t matter.

    LeBron wants to win a championship and he wants to get paid …

    PERIOD
    +++++++++

    I don’t think so…Lebron wants to be the biggest name in the NBA…he would be mocked if he went to Miami and had to ride Wade’s coattails to an NBA championship, not to mention the fact that teaming with Wade and Bosh would prevent Lebron from becoming the all-time leading scorer in the NBA.

    Lebron going to Chicago, with Rose who hasn’t won anything and where he could still dominate the ball and potentially win a championship makes more sense.

    If it was just about winning championships Lebron would be pushing for a sign and trade to the Lakers.

  439. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t see Portland or OKC contending with the Lakers

    I was actually VERY surprised that OK took 2 games from L.A. in the playoffs

    this is probably the Spurs last year …

  440. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    “Somebody gimme a cheeseburger!”

    Davis was simply quoting the Steve Miller Band, from Livin in the USA.

    http://www.lyricsdownload.com/steve-miller-living-in-the-usa-lyrics.html

  441. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If it was just about winning championships Lebron would be pushing for a sign and trade to the Lakers.

    ***

    LeBron wouldn’t wear purple

    he’s a man :)

  442. Dakota Says:

    There was a reason Lebron turned in his #23 for #6….so he could play for the Bulls.

  443. fat kidd Says:

    During Sunday’s Eagles-Raiders game, a pigeon went onto the field, stopped briefly near where the Raiders were lining up for a kickoff, and then flew downfield in the same direction as the Raiders’ coverage unit. It made for a funny viral video, but one Oakland player, Justin Fargas, thinks it was much more: he thinks the pigeon was the reincarnation of deceased ex-Raider Marquis Cooper.

    Cooper and former Detroit Lions defensive end Corey Smith died in a boating accident in February, and Fargas said in a radio interview this week that he thinks Cooper may have come back to Oakland in the form of that pigeon.He also stated in the interview that he is now healthy and ready too roll if the raiders come calling.

  444. LT DAN Says:

    Jimmy Buffet likes cheesburgers in paradise and so does AL

  445. Dakota Says:

    FU FARGAS….keep that non-TD scoring nobody away from Oakland as long as his butt buddy Cable is around (even if he is now just the Timeout Coordinator).

  446. RaiderRockstar Says:

    There was a reason Lebron turned in his #23 for #6….so he could play for the Bulls.

    ***

    what would the Bulls need to compete, besides LeBron?

    anything ??? are all these guys still under contract?

    Derrick Rose
    Luol Deng
    Kirk Hinrich
    Joakim Noah
    Flip Murray
    Hakim Warrick
    Taj Gibson
    Brad Miller
    Devin Brown

  447. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Paul Pierce opted out of his contract with the Meltics, but Ainge says they are still negotiating to bring him back.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1264841

  448. LT DAN Says:

    Going to bed cyall later

  449. J Wiggle Says:

    The real question is which one of these free agents Mitch Kupchak wants. Hilarious how all these teams are running from the West.

    Lamar Kardashian has played his last game as a Laker

    Luke Walton will retire due to back issues and give us a medical exemption.

    Farmar and Brown are also outta here.

  450. J Wiggle Says:

    The other real question is if Big Bynum earned another year on the roster with his playoff performance.

  451. J Wiggle Says:

    “The Nuggets are pressing Carmelo Anthony for a long-term commitment, because if he declines a three-year, $65 million contract extension now on the table, the team must consider trading its leading scorer. Trade Melo? Would the Nuggets really part ways with a 26-year-old forward in the prime of his NBA career? Denver might not have any choice. With an eye on how megastars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh have held the league’s competitive balance in their fickle hands and turned this summer’s free-agency period into a three-ring circus, the Nuggets seem determined not to let Anthony do the same in Denver. While their offer of a hefty contract extension proves the Nuggets hope Anthony will remain the face of the franchise for years to come, the team is prepared to trade Melo rather than let him walk as a free agent next summer, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.”

    ——————————————————-

    We’ll give you Bynum and Odom for Carmelo !?!?!?

  452. J Wiggle Says:

    Supposedly, the reason the Cavs don’t want to execute a sign-and-trade is they don’t want to be remembered as the front-office executives or owners who traded James. If he leaves and signs elsewhere, won’t they be saddled with that albatross anyway? If the Cavs are unable to sign James in free agency, which starts Thursday, observers think it’s imperative they execute a sign-and-trade. Why wouldn’t they want to get players, draft picks or a hefty trade exception in return? Out of spite? Because they are pouting? Are they drawing a line in the sand? It’s almost ridiculous to think they wouldn’t want to do what’s best for the franchise. Fellow executives will laugh at them behind their backs.”

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

  453. J Wiggle Says:

    and then add a vet, like Shaq maybe

    ——————————————————-

    Lakers need to bring Shaq back. Kobe should be ok with it too now that they’ve buried the hatchet and he has 1 more ring than Shaq, lol.

  454. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We’ll give you Bynum and Odom for Carmelo !?!?!?

    ***

    Bryant + Anthony = drama

  455. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m pretty sure Flip Murray, Hakim Warrick, Brad Miller & Devin Brown would re-sign with Chicago if King James came to town …

  456. J Wiggle Says:

    Yeah, but Chicago won’t have $ for them.

  457. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
    There was a reason Lebron turned in his #23 for #6….so he could play for the Bulls.

    ***

    what would the Bulls need to compete, besides LeBron?

    anything ??? are all these guys still under contract?

    Derrick Rose
    Luol Deng
    Kirk Hinrich
    Joakim Noah
    Flip Murray
    Hakim Warrick
    Taj Gibson
    Brad Miller
    Devin Brown
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Hinrich is gone, and some of those guys are FAs, but I think the Bulls could put together a roster of:

    C Bosh
    Noah
    Deng
    LBJ
    Rose

    which looks much better than Miami’s:

    Rony Seikaly
    Bosh
    James
    Wade
    Bimbo Coles

  458. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    The other real question is if Big Bynum earned another year on the roster with his playoff performance.
    ______________

    Only one real option for a Bynum trade and that is to Toronto for Bosh, but I am torn on that one.

    Gasol would have to play C with Bosh at PF, which makes us smaller…but Bosh is 100 times more likely to be healthy in June than is Bynum….but if Bynum can somehow get over the knee jinx, he could be the most dominant C in the NBA, or second most if Howard ever develops an offensive game…

    …and if we have to include Odom in the deal then I sure hope we don’t do it….that is too much to give up.

  459. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m pretty sure Flip Murray, Hakim Warrick, Brad Miller & Devin Brown would re-sign with Chicago if King James came to town …

    Jannero Pargo, Joe Alexander & Acie Law are also FA’s

    Jwigg: Chicago doesn’t have the $$$ for these cats?

  460. J Wiggle Says:

    …and if we have to include Odom in the deal then I sure hope we don’t do it….that is too much to give up.

    ——————————————————

    If we include Odom, Turkoglo is coming back this way.

  461. Dakota Says:

    You can go over the cap to sign players at their respective Vet minimum salaries….which is about what most of those guys can hope for anyhow.

  462. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: Rony Seikaly & Bimbo Coles?

    LOL!

    hard to believe Rony was married to Elsa Benítez at one time …

  463. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    …If we include Odom, Turkoglo is coming back this way.
    __________

    No way Buss would do that…he would be adding approximately $9 million to the payroll (Bosh $16.5+ Turk $10.6) – (Odom $8.3 + Bynum $14.25) = 4.52 * 2 for luxury tax = approx $9 Million.

    And we would still only have 7 players under contract…

  464. fat kidd Says:

    FanHouse Newswire

    Tiger Woods has reached a record divorce settlement with Elin Nordegren, according to a report by The Sun.

    Woods will pay his former wife between $750 million and $833 million, the report says, which would be the biggest payout ever seen in a high-profile divorce. In return, Nordegren, 30, can never publicly speak about reported affairs he had while they were married.

    According to the deal, which is expected to be finalized soon, Nordegren gets complete custody of their children (3-year old daughter Sam and 1-year old son Charlie), but Woods gets to share in making decisions in their life.

    Woods also has to keep his children away from his girlfriends or any other unmarried women that Nordegren does not know.

  465. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Turkoglu would be a solid bench player for the Lakers. He can always get off his own shot in crunch time, and plays tough. Trade Odom straight up.

  466. J Wiggle Says:

    Gasol would have to play C with Bosh at PF, which makes us smaller…

    —————————————————–

    Bring in Shaq as a backup and sign John Salmons as a starter.

  467. J Wiggle Says:

    Woods will pay his former wife between $750 million and $833 million,

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  468. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Congrats to Elin Nordegren!

  469. J Wiggle Says:

    = 4.52 * 2 for luxury tax = approx $9 Million.

    ——————————————————-

    Byron Scott = 3 million – PJ’s 12 million = that 9 million.

  470. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Gasol would have to play C with Bosh at PF, which makes us smaller…

    —————————————————–

    Bring in Shaq as a backup and sign John Salmons as a starter.
    _____________

    Lol, crazy talk Jhill…#1 Shaq would want the MLE leaving no $$ for Salmons and #2 where does that put Artest?

  471. J Wiggle Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Congrats to Elin Nordegren!

    ——————————————————-

    No shout outs to Iverson’s wife?

  472. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    That makes Elin the most eligible Bachelorette in the WORLD

  473. RaiderRockstar Says:

    No shout outs to Iverson’s wife?

    ***

    high school sweethearts almost never last …

    what did Tawanna walk away with?

  474. fat kidd Says:

    Woods will pay his former wife between $750 million and $833 million, Nordegren, 30, i dont know at 30 years old who is going to want her.

  475. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Iverson’s wife got a Popeyes Chicken franchise and a Barber Shop.

  476. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That makes Elin the most eligible Bachelorette in the WORLD

    ***

    expect a call from Kevin Federline.

  477. J Wiggle Says:

    Woods will pay his former wife between $750 million and $833 million,

    ————————————————–

    LOL at these stories …

    First of all, Tiger had a prenup.

    2ndly, what kinda change do you think Tiger has?

  478. Dakota Says:

    It would take at least $5 to $6 million per year to hire Byron Scott (That was his contract in NO).

    So if you could somehow find a trade partner for Sasha’s expiring $5 million dollar contract the numbers might work…but then you would have to re-sign Brown….and Fisher will want his $5 million a year too…

  479. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nordegren, 30, i dont know at 30 years old who is going to want her.

    ***

    you’re right fatty!

    thats 12 or 13 years too old for Steve Alford

  480. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Some parts of a Pre-nup are null and void with spawns. He is worth MUCH more than she is getting. That pay off more than likely pertains to the two kids she punched out of her vag.

  481. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Dakota please stop talking basketball. We are talking about important things that pertain to this blog such as; vag’s, Tiger, Elin, money, Steve Alford, and pre-nups. Get with it, or get lost.

  482. J Wiggle Says:

    Lol, crazy talk Jhill…#1 Shaq would want the MLE leaving no $$ for Salmons and #2 where does that put Artest?

    ——————————————————

    Shaq ???? MLE ???? He’d be lucky to get the miminum. Maybe we throw him a bone and do a sign a trade with Cleveland for a guy like Walton to help Shaw out with the triangle.

    Salmons gets the MLE and starts. moving Fish to the bench.

  483. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Just say no to Shaq unless he publicly details how Kobe’s azz tastes.

  484. fat kidd Says:

    Elin Nordegren may buy the oakland raiders from al davis!!!!!!!!!!and hire lane kiffin.

  485. J Wiggle Says:

    It would take at least $5 to $6 million per year to hire Byron Scott (That was his contract in NO).

    ——————————————————-

    This isn’t NO …

    Buss offers Scott the Lakers job for 3.5, he takes it. If not B. Shaw will.

  486. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Basketball is lame.

  487. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Elin Nordegren may buy the oakland raiders from al davis

    ***

    fatty: that would take $835 million

    no deal. Al Davis (in ROG’s terms) = BAUCE!

  488. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders and media reach a temporary truce…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  489. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Does anyone agree with me that Megan Fox is F’ING HOT?
    http://popculturefeministas.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/megan-fox-fhm-2.jpg

    Dam I LOVE brunettes!!

  490. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Elin’s hot with or without billions. Always had a thing for Nordic blondies…

  491. J Wiggle Says:

    Tiger Woods is an effin clown!

    First you pay off the bimbo’s millions of dollars and now you pay your ex wife you had a prenup with a quarter of a BILLION dollars ?!?!?!?!

    This dude really fugged off that kinda loot behind some boom boom????

    AMAZING !!!!!!

  492. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tiger Woods is an effin clown

    ***

    Jwigg: been saying that for years …

    same with Kobe Bryant

  493. J Wiggle Says:

    Elin ended up with double the sum she originally sought

    ——————————————————-

    What a clown!

    Oh you want 300 Million?

    Why don’t I give you 700?

    Deal ???

  494. fat kidd Says:

    Elin Nordegren,snoop dog and ice buy raiders from al davis and they throw in a 63 chevy

  495. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    J Wiggle

    Maybe he is paying her to STFU. Maybe she know more than what we and the media have already learned about him. Just a thought….

  496. J Wiggle Says:

    same with Kobe Bryant

    —————————————————–

    Well at least Kobe realized it was cheaper to keep her.

  497. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Kobe is a tool. Ever since that photo shoot with him wearing a white Burka….. Tool.

  498. J Wiggle Says:

    Maybe he is paying her to STFU.

    ——————————————————-

    She couldn’t have that much to say.

    My wife would have to spill the beans. I’d give the media or whoever the fugg the big eff U sign with that 750 MILLION dollars in my pocket!

    No wonder Tiger couldn’t finish last weekend, lol!

  499. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Maybe Tiger goes “both ways” and he is paying his wife to STFU about it.

  500. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Well at least Kobe realized it was cheaper to keep her.

    ***

    Big Ben needs to find out how to be sneaky like Cable, Sapp, Marshall, Kobe & O.J.

  501. J Wiggle Says:

    What a news day …

    Can it get any better ????

    cold cheeseburgers and KFC cole slaw is the food choice of mega millionaires

    and the wife of a frickin golfer can get 750 million in a divorce.

    Gotta love this country.

  502. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Maybe the whole, Drive, in the hole, Shaft, Stroke, and the fact he plays with dude every weekend prompts him to go “both ways”. Elin knows it.

  503. J Wiggle Says:

    Big Ben needs to find out how to be sneaky like Cable, Sapp, Marshall, Kobe & O.J.

    ——————————————————

    That a really progressive list

  504. J Wiggle Says:

    OJ = not guilty buy the way

  505. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    # J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    OJ = not guilty buy the way

    ————————-

    “buy” the way? Are you suggesting he “purchased” his freedom or innocence?

  506. J Wiggle Says:

    Couldn’t be that much blackmail out there mayne …

    700 million = time to come out the closet.

  507. J Wiggle Says:

    “buy” the way?

    ——————————————————-

    freudian slip there …

  508. Dakota Says:

    Most likely Lakers roster:

    C Bynum 14.25 mil
    PF Gasol 17.823 mil
    SF Artest 6.8 mil
    SG Kobe 23.9 mil
    PG Fisher 5 mil
    PF Odom 8.33 mil
    SG-PG Sasha 5 mil
    SF Walton 5 mil
    SF Ebanks 500K
    PF Caracter 500K

    That is $87.103 and we still need to add two players:
    (Splitting the MLE)
    PG-SG Raja Bell 4 mill
    C Brad Miller 2.8 mill

    Total payroll of 93.903
    2010-11 projected Salary cap $56.1 mill

    Total player salaries with Luxury tax = $131.706

    Add in Phil’s $10-12 mill
    No way in hell Buss does that….

    Might have to replace Bell and Miller with vet minimum contracts for:
    PG Shaun Livingston
    C E. Thomas

    That would save Buss about $5 million

  509. DKnight007 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    FanHouse Newswire

    Tiger Woods has reached a record divorce settlement with Elin Nordegren, according to a report by The Sun.

    Woods will pay his former wife between $750 million and $833 million, the report says, which would be the biggest payout ever seen in a high-profile divorce. In return, Nordegren, 30, can never publicly speak about reported affairs he had while they were married.

    According to the deal, which is expected to be finalized soon, Nordegren gets complete custody of their children (3-year old daughter Sam and 1-year old son Charlie), but Woods gets to share in making decisions in their life.

    Woods also has to keep his children away from his girlfriends or any other unmarried women that Nordegren does not know.

    ^^^^^^^
    LOL….what a dumb ass Tigger is. I love rooting against him now.

    As I said months ago, he won’t win a major for quite sometime. Too much going on in his head.

  510. RaiderRockstar Says:

    700 million = time to come out the closet.

    ***

    what does MR get for coming out of the closet?

    $7.00 ?

    0.70?

    0.07?

  511. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: Brad Miller or Etan Thomas?

    nah …

    the Lakers are going after Kwame Brown!

    Raider/Laker fans love “Kwame” :)

  512. Dakota Says:

    No way that Tiger Woods report is true.

  513. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    700 million = time to come out the closet.

    ***

    what does MR get for coming out of the closet?

    $7.00 ?

    0.70?

    0.07?

    —————————

    He doesn’t need to come out, everyone knows he takes it.

  514. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Most Likely Lakers Roster:

    WHO F’ING CARES. F THE LAKERS. F BASKETBALL.

  515. J Wiggle Says:

    Imma play Kool Kell here for a minute …

    Can a black man keep his $ in America EVER?

    That Euro pimp who introduced Elin to Tiger finally got the payoff. I bet he sent the other Bimbo’s in last year as well and even staged the golf club scene with Elin.

    Tiger got set up and should bring an extortion case against the lot of them.

  516. J Wiggle Says:

    Total player salaries with Luxury tax = $131.706

    —————————————————-

    Gotta pay the cost to be the boss!

  517. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That Euro pimp who introduced Elin to Tiger finally got the payoff. I bet he sent the other Bimbo’s in last year as well and even staged the golf club scene with Elin.

    Tiger got set up and should bring an extortion case against the lot of them.

    ***

    bwahahahahaha!

  518. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    Total player salaries with Luxury tax = $131.706

    —————————————————-

    Gotta pay the cost to be the boss!
    _______________

    That is much more than the average NFL team pays for its 53 man roster, and the NBA tv contracts are nowhere near as lucrative as the NFL.

  519. J Wiggle Says:

    PG Fisher 5 mil
    PF Odom 8.33 mil
    SG-PG Sasha 5 mil
    SF Walton 5 mil
    SF Ebanks 500K
    PF Caracter 500K

    ——————————————————-

    Fisher 3 million
    Odom traded
    Walton – injury exception

  520. J Wiggle Says:

    the Lakers are going after Kwame Brown!

    ——————————————————-

    That’s actually a good idea for the minimum. Solid defender.

  521. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That’s actually a good idea

    ***

    did I just get props from a Laker fan regarding a comment that I MADE about that team?

    Hmmm… thats new!

  522. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg:

    Kwame Brown gets the MLE and starts

  523. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    Fisher 3 million
    Odom traded
    Walton – injury exception

    ______________________
    Walton’s injury exception would only allow the Lakers to sign a player for $2.5 million (50% of the injured player’s salary) and Buss would still be on the hook for Waltons’ $5 million dollar salary.

    Fisher might take $3 million, but he would probably want a 3 year deal to do so, which I doubt Buss would do.

    If you trade Odom his money comes off the books, but the Lakers still would have $0 cap space, but would then be more likely to be able to use the MLE…can you think of a player that we could sign for the MLE that would help the lakers more than Odom?

  524. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: you seem to know a lot about the Lakers cap situation … what players would they have to pitch at Cleveland for LeBron in a sign-and-trade ???

    is there a way they COULD afford him, paying him what he wants/deserves?

  525. fat kidd Says:

    Tiger Woods Scandal: Kim Kardashian speaks about Tiger Woods He has how much money!!!!

  526. J Wiggle Says:

    can you think of a player that we could sign for the MLE that would help the lakers more than Odom?

    ——————————————————-

    I can’t stand Lamar Odom man. He should be doing so much more with all that talent that he has. What a waste!

    I don’t care about the salary cap. Bynum’s 14 milion plus Lamar’s 8 = a lot better players and bang for your buck, IMO.

    If it comes down to just getting more for Odom’s 8 million, I’d trade him back to Miami for Beasly and Dorrell Wright and take the cap relief. Use that 4 million saved on that deal and get Salmons with the MLE.

    Salmons
    Kobe
    Artest
    Gasol
    Bynum

    Bench

    Fisher
    Beasly
    Wright
    Sasha
    Shaq

  527. buckeyeraider Says:

    Thank God. Thanks for the post finally Steve. Tried to post a few times in the last week and it was almost unbearable.

    Interesting read about Payton’s interview though. The cold cheeseburgers and coleslaw. Al was really laying out the red carpet. Sparing no expense.

    I saw a piece on Jon Gruden along time ago where he talked a little about his interview with Al. Fascinating stuff. He was immitating Al, kind of making that sucking sound on his teeth, and speaking with a Brooklyn accent. Anyway he said it was quite an experience. He said they grabbed a six pack and talked football. I assume Jon meant beer, and not sparkling soda. Although according to John Madden, Al does not drink any alcohol. He said Al just fired question after question.

    I didn’t get the feeling Gruden was mocking Al at all. I think he saw him as a sort of kindred spirit. Someone like himself, who was consumed with pro football.

  528. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    Dakota: you seem to know a lot about the Lakers cap situation … what players would they have to pitch at Cleveland for LeBron in a sign-and-trade ???

    is there a way they COULD afford him, paying him what he wants/deserves?
    ____________

    Cleveland could get

    Bynum + draft picks or
    Bynum + Artest + draft picks or
    Bynum + Odom + Draft picks

    Cleveland would be stupid to turn down any of those deals. Bynum is 22 years old.

  529. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If it comes down to just getting more for Odom’s 8 million, I’d trade him back to Miami for Beasly and Dorrell Wright and take the cap relief.

    ***

    LOL. like Miami would ever make that trade!

  530. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    Miami wants cap space….not Lamar Odom.

  531. J Wiggle Says:

    Riley LOVES Odom ….

    Wright is a FA who would get the minimum. They’ve been trying to trade Beasley all summer.

  532. J Wiggle Says:

    Miami wants cap space….not Lamar Odom.

    ——————————————————

    Once they figure out they are not getting LeBron, things will change.

  533. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: what about Bynum + Odom + Artest ???

    what that give L.A. enough money to sign LeBron and still bring back Fish and replacements for Farmar & Brown? plus 2 bigs …

  534. RaiderRockstar Says:

    would that*

    sorry, typo

  535. buckeyeraider Says:

    I’d never heard the part about Gruden or Parcells telling Payton to wait for another opportunity. That’s interesting. I had heard that John Fox advised his friend Payton not to take the job. There was bad blood there. Fox was the Raiders DC who quit the week before the season opener. Al Davis was reeming him during film study. He supposedly said “fine.. you coach the Defense. I quit” and walked out.

    It’s no secret Al Davis is a heard man to work for.

  536. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  537. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    Dakota: what about Bynum + Odom + Artest ???
    what that give L.A. enough money to sign LeBron and still bring back Fish and replacements for Farmar & Brown? plus 2 bigs …
    ++++++

    Nope, the Lakers would have to get back at least 80% of the contracts they send out….in your scenario they would send out $29.38 mill and only get back $17, and if you included another player to get within 80% ($23.504) you would only be saving a little less than 6 Mill, and the Lakers would still be far above the salary cap, so you would only have the MLE to replace Odom and Artest.

  538. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Dakota do you blog at an Lakers blogs?

  539. Nnamdi21 Says:

    If he works out at RG I’m alright with it. If he takes a season or two to develop into a starting LT, ok with that too…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  540. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Is that your website or something Nnamdi21?

  541. Kirk Says:

    Al Davis knows his stuff.

    KFC has the best cole slaw.

  542. Dakota Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    Dakota do you blog at an Lakers blogs?
    ______

    I tried, but the general NBA fan is too friggin ignorant…the fans in here are much more intelligent. Thankfully, Jerry opened this place up for any sports talk.

  543. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    What moron spells the name Shawn as Sean, hence Geoff and Jeff, hence Br1En and Brian.

  544. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    Dakota do you blog at an Lakers blogs?
    ______

    I tried, but the general NBA fan is too friggin ignorant…the fans in here are much more intelligent. Thankfully, Jerry opened this place up for any sports talk.

    ————————

    Gotta love the NFL offseason.

  545. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Cetic name Sean is spelled Sean. Shawn is for folks who can’t spell.

  546. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Cold cheeseburgers in Alameda? = cheeseburgers in paradise…..

  547. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Kirk says: KFC makes the best coleslaw.

    Yeah! What the hell are they putting in that?
    And Jack-in-the Box makes the best tacos.
    Especially when you’re happy.

  548. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    The Cetic name Sean is spelled Sean. Shawn is for folks who can’t spell.

    ————————

    So would “Cetic” be for “folks who can’t spell” as well?

  549. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    No Steven. That would be for folks who had too much to drink and can’t type.

  550. La Milicia Negra Says:

    hep

  551. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If Kwame goes back to LA, he might as well come out of the closet this time.

  552. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    No Steven. That would be for folks who had too much to drink and can’t type.

    ———————

    Oh yeah, because the first thing I do when I have been drinking too much or out with some ladies and the fellas putting down some alcohol is jump on my computer on a Raiders blog and start typing.

    “Good on ya m8″

    Wanker.

  553. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Washinton Post is describing Obama as “the first female president”. Lol.

    Now there’s a name that’s going to stick.

  554. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Steven, you shouldn’t get all upset just because you can’t spell Sean.

  555. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Not upset at all m8.

    4:33 in podunk, later gents.

  556. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    OK wanker.
    I’m out of here too.

  557. M Lonetree Says:

    MSN sub-headline :

    Carrie Prejean to Marry NFL Star

    yep. Boller is the NFL Star.

  558. DKnight007 Says:

    JaMierda Russell knows about cold cheeseburgers I’m sure.

    Just as good as David Hasselhoff does! LOL

  559. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jets comtacted Jamarcus Russell about being a dietary consultant. They want him to help their linemen to bulk up.

  560. Nnamdi21 Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    JaMierda Russell knows about cold cheeseburgers I’m sure.

    Just as good as David Hasselhoff does! LOL

    ==========================

    and Dr. Rockzo!

  561. Nnamdi21 Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    The Washinton Post is describing Obama as “the first female president”. Lol.

    Now there’s a name that’s going to stick

    ===========

    Hilary was our first female President but even staunch hard core Neo Cons (”Con” being the operative word) have to admit Bush was Cheney’s bish…

  562. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Condolences to the Cunningham family. Heartbreaking tragic loss…

  563. JB Says:

    What Cunningham family loss? Please elaborate Nhamdi.

  564. Just Fire Baby Says:

    KFC cole slaw is straight trash.

    Herrera should have stopped at the Safeway deli and got some.

    Hopefully Al has stepped up his spread game a little.

  565. fat kidd Says:

    JB Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
    What Cunningham family loss? Please elaborate Nhamdi.

    read post 377

  566. fat kidd Says:

    popeyes is better than kfc

  567. JB Says:

    # fat kidd Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    JB Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
    What Cunningham family loss? Please elaborate Nhamdi.

    read post 377
    ***********************

    Thx Fat Kidd – Yes, a terrible loss. Sympathy to the family in this time of loss.

  568. JB Says:

    I guess AD is a real gourmet. He may just be addicted to ballpark food. I imagine he’s had more than his fair share. How could he pass on MickyD’s fries? They are the best around. LOL

  569. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When Dan Snyder tries to woo a coach, he probably takes them out for Dom P, filets and crab cakes.

    In Oakland, you get cold items from the dollar menu.

  570. buckeyeraider Says:

    Hey Vegas.
    How ya doin?

    I think I recall somewhere in that 4,000 comment monstrosity over the last week that you don’t think T Howard will make the 53. Is that true?

    Man, I hope you’re wrong. I’m all for the move to the bigger front seven. I love the changes they’ve made to the D.
    I don’t know how many linebackers they plan on keeping, but hopefully they can find room for Howard. Surely they could find some kind of nickle package where they could use his coverage skills. I don’t know if there’s an OLB in the league with better coverage abilty. IMO.

  571. Midwest Fan Says:

    I see Howard as our 3rd down linebacker and in certain roles matching up with other teams TE’s.

  572. buckeyeraider Says:

    BTW,
    Has anybody on here actually read Payton’s book? Did he say in his book that Gruden, Callahan, et al told him to stay away from Oakland? Did Maurice Carthon tell Corkran this directly? He just says “reportedly” in his article. Is this a rumor he heard somewhere “through the grapevine”? I just read his post again and it’s unclear to me.

    Like I said I’s read about John Fox before, but never heard Gruden’s name mentioned, or Parcells.

  573. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hey what’s happening Buckeye??

    My belief on T Howard is the same with JLH as well. Just about every year the Raiders have a suprise cut or two of a veteran. Last year it was Garcia and Lorenzo Neal.

    I believe that Howard and JLH won’t get much of a chance in preseason. If guys trying to take their roster spot show promise, they will be cut. If their competitors (Norris, Goeble, Groves and N Miller, Ford and Figures) look like they don’t belong, they will keep JLH and Howard. But it will most likely be completely out of their hands.

    I think our nickle package(s) will have a lot of Mike Mitchell in kind of the hybrid-LB spot, with McClain roaming the middle still.

    Howard has never made THAT much of an impact in the passing game, to warrant a roster spot solely because of it. If he wants to be on the 53, he better start liking special teams, because the other kids will have no problem being asked to cover kicks.

    (BTW, we need to work a Giants-Reds trade. We can give you an arm, you can give us one of your million power-hitting OF’s)

  574. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And always remember, you don’t want to be that last LB competing for the last LB spot with Sam Williams. You will lose that one every time.

    Al loves Sam, and Sam is a bad-azz Special Teamer, and a seriously good, well-respected dude.

  575. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Congrats to Kyle Boller on his wedding.

    He may be marrying a crazy, patholigical lying, brain-washed weirdo, but she is one hot piece!!!

  576. buckeyeraider Says:

    *I’s must be Jar-Jar Binks speak for I’ve. Damn.

    Went to the Reds-Phillies game last night. Ass still draggin. Votto clubs 3 run homer in ninth to tie. Sir Arthur Rhodes who’s pitched like 35 consec. scoreless inning comes in in 10th and can’t retire a batter.
    Still 2 out of 3 vs Philly not bad.

    The Reds are a good young team. I’m hoping the Raiders young talent comes together in a similar fashion.

  577. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Votto can rake. One of the better young hitters nobody knows about

  578. buckeyeraider Says:

    Yeah Vegas. Dude can flat out hit. He hit another today. His 18th which I believe moves him into a tie for league lead. The Reds lead NL in almost every offensive category. And fielding % as well.
    They are about to get some more pitching help from within. Edinson Volqez, the pitcher acquired for Josh Hamilton from Texas is about to return from injury rehab. Homer Bailey a 1st rd pick is due back from IR. And they have this young Cuban pitcher Aroldis Chapman who throws 100 mph in the minors, who should be called up soon. The Reds gave him a 30 mil deal. That’s a lot of change for the penny pinching Reds.

    Scot Rolen is providing the Richard Seymour veteran leadership role. He’s having s resurgent year, as well.
    I’m seriously expecting similar things from the Raiders this fall. This young team is going to come together and surprise some people this year. Print that.

  579. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Volquez is a little iffy coming off Tommy John I believe, and Bailey hasn’t panned out as of yet.

    But that Chapman is supposed to be then next great Cuban.

  580. buckeyeraider Says:

    Not only is he coming back from Tommy John surgery, but I believe he just finished a 50 game susp. for using steroids during his rehab. But, WLW the Reds flagship station have really been talking up his last two minor league rehab starts. Might be back before All Star.
    Bailey has been hot and cold. Got sent back to minors last year to work on off speed pitches to complement his impressive fastball. Can’t just overpower major league hitters.

    The big thing with him, is he showed up this year with a totally new and improved attitude.

    With that, I’m out. 11:30 and way past my bedtime.

    G’night Vegas, and the rest of the Raider Nation.

  581. fat kidd Says:

    Model Promises Naked Run Through Streets if Paraguay Wins World Cup17
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    Back Porch Editor

    Lingerie model Larissa Riquelme was already well known in her native Paraguay but she became something of an international star — and World Cup sex symbol — when she was photographed, cell phone secured between her breasts, cheering on the national team with other fans in the capital city of Asuncion.

    And if Paraguay wins the month-long tournament, Riquelme could become even more popular: she’s promised a celebratory naked jaunt through the streets. Argentina coach Diego Maradona made a similar pledge, with two stark differences.

    First, the odds of Argentina winning the whole thing are pretty good. If Paraguay emerged champions it would be one of the biggest surprises in World Cup history. Second, nobody wants to see Maradona naked. Expensive suits, rosary beads and a watch for each wrist is more than enough.

  582. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Individual tix for the AZ Cardinals game may go on sale tomorrow. Already got a crew of 6 for the Raiders game, and growing. Just spreading the word if anyone else is up for a road trip.

  583. fat kidd Says:

    Obama given power to shut down the internet
    A single person with an internet kill switch
    25 Jun 2010 14:30 | by Dean Wilson | posted in Internet
    2 Comments
    US President Obama has been given new powers to shut down large parts of the internet if there is a “national emergency”, reports TechRadar.

    A US Senate committee has approved new legislation entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, an update of the 1934 Communications Act. The title alone suggests that the US government considers the internet to be part of its property, which is enough to rile up a considerable number of people, including foreign governments.

    The US President, under current law, already has the power to take over communications networks, but this new “kill switch” creates worrying potential for abuse. It begs the question if one man should have the authority and power to shut down large parts of the internet, even if it were only employed in the most exceptional of circumstances.

    The Senate has tried to downplay these concerns by saying that “only specific systems or assets whose disruption would cause a national or regional catastrophe would be subject to the bill’s mandatory security requirements.” What qualifies for that, however, has not been revealed, which means the US government could technically argue that anything it wants falls under its broad definition of disruption and national catastrophe.
    Next time a website you’re visiting is down, Obama may have flicked the switch. We can’t confirm or deny that the Twitter Fail Whale is his responsibility

    Read more: http://www.techeye.net/internet/obama-given-power-to-shut-down-the-internet#ixzz0sJTDmO71

  584. satanowesaldavis Says:

    300 push ups , 300 sit ups .. then i just hit da weights… might kick this dude azz at work that told this girl im doin that im bi sexual . thats a reason to go ….

  585. satanowesaldavis Says:

    steve corkan please take over this blog . cus jerrymc douchebag sukks

  586. satanowesaldavis Says:

    just dont see why dudes gotta hate on ya ? sad really . anyway ,,,,,, who saw that movie KNIGHT & DAY ? good movie

  587. satanowesaldavis Says:

    hey , sumbody on this blog needs to remind me to pay my probation officer the $35 i owe her tommorow. we gotta stick together nation .

  588. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kick his azz, go to jail and save the $35.

  589. The Return of Godliness Says:

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  590. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Its the month of July now good people! We have less than a month before our team gathers up in Napa to start off the 2010 season…..I’m beyond excited…….Denver isnt shyt, Kc will improve but has many holes still and SD is crumbling day by day………if we get a few bounces our way we can be talking about some meaningful games come November and December

  591. Just Fire Baby Says:

    All these guys in the AM excited about the potential of living on 18 acres, with no power and having to build their own house.

    What’s the saying, rather die on my feet than live on my knees? If that ain’t living on your knees I don’t know what is.

    As a general rule of thumb, if a nudey joint isn’t within 10 miles of said front door, it won’t be my front door.

  592. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ROG,

    Wouldn’t be suprised if KC was better than Den, and give SD a run for the money.

    SD is one Rivers injury away from picking in the top 10 next year.

  593. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why is it that Jamarcus Russell always is in AZ to lose weight?

    Is that the only place someone can lose weight? And apparently, it hasn’t worked all that well, might want to give some place else a chance.

  594. satanowesaldavis Says:

    just fire baby. u really put things into perspective. oh well. only 2 more years left on my probation :(

  595. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Next week I go to the land of all evil.

    Denver. Get to meet a bunch of suits with season tickets apparently. Maybe I can weasel in to the Raiders game.

  596. satanowesaldavis Says:

    and i havent really smashed the girl yet , got sum head , and sucked her hooters , but yeah ……

  597. satanowesaldavis Says:

    the mods say i can only come on this blog this time of night cus im x rated . so ,, um the lonely raider blogger ,,,,

  598. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yes less than two months away from getting to see McClain put someone’s face in the dirt.

    I wouldn’t mind starting with that flinty-eyed Miles Austin.

  599. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Speaking of X-Raided, is that guy still trying to rap these days?

  600. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    ROG,

    Wouldn’t be suprised if KC was better than Den, and give SD a run for the money.

    SD is one Rivers injury away from picking in the top 10 next year.
    ********************************

    Yeah man I expect the hiring of those two coordinators in KC to have major significance to this division. Denver defense obviously isnt stout and the offense took another major hit in the offseason. Wouldnt surprise me the least bit if they finished 4th

    I dont want Rivers injured…I want him to endure ass whipping after ass whipping. I got a message for that hillbilly sheep rapist comes Week 5

  601. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Speaking of X-Raided, is that guy still trying to rap these days?
    **************************

    X-Raided was a crazy MFKER for sure. How many ppl maming songs from jail doing life bids?

    From what I know I havent heard him on anything in years…….I use to knock his music in high school vicious

  602. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Supposedly Rivers has never cursed, because he is a weird North Carolina bible-thumper.

  603. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Yes less than two months away from getting to see McClain put someone’s face in the dirt.

    I wouldn’t mind starting with that flinty-eyed Miles Austin.
    ***************************

    Yes we shall see it I pray. He is a film junkie and demands greatness. Type of guy we need on this defense. I believe he will eventually be molded into something Kirk never was……a star MLB.

    Having John Henderson and that huge starting D-line outta make it easier for one on one tackles in 2010

  604. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Supposedly Rivers has never cursed, because he is a weird North Carolina bible-thumper.
    ***************************************

    Rivers says, ” Welcome to North Carolina where the men are god-fearing and the sheep are nervous”

  605. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I remember Mac Dre’s I’m in Motion from the slammer. A Bay Area classic.

    Don’t know what X-Raided is doing these days, but always thought it was funny his moms was his manager, and she worked in the Sac courthouse!!!

  606. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kirk liked to celebrate and make sure his towel looked cool in pileups.

    RoMac will be going in there to clean up those piles, and could give a crap about his towel.

    Film studies are just going to make things so much easier for him. He is going to be a bigger more physical Derrick Brooks. Quiet, good dude, but one of the top football IQ’s and an unquestioned leader.

  607. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    I remember Mac Dre’s I’m in Motion from the slammer. A Bay Area classic.

    Don’t know what X-Raided is doing these days, but always thought it was funny his moms was his manager, and she worked in the Sac courthouse!!!
    ********************************

    Yeah same X-raided who use to rob and kills his enemy’s mother in Sac……dude was nuts

  608. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Kirk liked to celebrate and make sure his towel looked cool in pileups.

    RoMac will be going in there to clean up those piles, and could give a crap about his towel.

    Film studies are just going to make things so much easier for him. He is going to be a bigger more physical Derrick Brooks. Quiet, good dude, but one of the top football IQ’s and an unquestioned leader.
    *******************************

    Seemed down to earth when I met him at Kincaid’s……bigger than I thought…..He is 255 lbs right now wont doubt he wont be a 265 lb animal when its all said and done

  609. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Vegas…..what do you think about Lamarr Houston?

    I can admit I wasnt happy we drafted him when other NTs were on the board…..but after seeing our plan and our move to get big John I can dig it some…..now at 6′3 305 lbs and playing DE should we not have him slim down some to be quicker off the edge…and I heard through grapevine Raiders flirting with idea of letting him and Matt S. battling it out at RDE…..I just think Seymour can be ala Reggie White at the LDE….would love for the strong side LB Wimbley to have that safety net there

  610. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I made the comparision of Lamarr Houston to Brentson Buckner.

    A very versatile, tough SOB, who will never get the credit he deserves but will be part of a lot of good defenses.

    And he won’t make many friends within the division and I think he will play more DT than Cable is leading on to.

  611. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ROG,

    McClain isn’t even 21 yet and I thought he kind of has a skinny neck still.

    He will gain those extra 10 pounds without losing one bit of speed and agility.

    The next great Raider, IMO.

    I’m clocking out for the night, got to clock in tomorrow on the Rosetta Stone.

  612. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    I made the comparision of Lamarr Houston to Brentson Buckner.

    A very versatile, tough SOB, who will never get the credit he deserves but will be part of a lot of good defenses.

    And he won’t make many friends within the division and I think he will play more DT than Cable is leading on to.
    *********************************

    Hmmmm so you think he will play DT in alot of pass rushing situations? I think Al will give Tommy Kelly one more year to live up to that crazy ass contract and he takes most of snaps at UT

    I belive letting Houston drop to 285-290 lbs at RDE will do the Raiders defense wonders….I just know Seymour isnt quick enough tio be a 4-3 RDE…..wont happen and cant happen ever

  613. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    ROG,

    McClain isn’t even 21 yet and I thought he kind of has a skinny neck still.

    He will gain those extra 10 pounds without losing one bit of speed and agility.

    The next great Raider, IMO.

    I’m clocking out for the night, got to clock in tomorrow on the Rosetta Stone.
    ********************************

    Cool VR

  614. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    X Raided is a punk. That lady he killed worked at the cafeteria at my junior high. She never harmed a soul.

  615. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I never thought X Raided’s music was good, either. I was in high school when his first tape came out, right when he got busted. Just whack. Homicide and Bad Mouth from Oak Park were both better.

  616. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    X Raided is a punk. That lady he killed worked at the cafeteria at my junior high. She never harmed a soul.
    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    I never thought X Raided’s music was good, either. I was in high school when his first tape came out, right when he got busted. Just whack. Homicide and Bad Mouth from Oak Park were both better.
    ********************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..too bad u werent taken out…you deserve death MR

  617. The Return of Godliness Says:

    X-Raided was FAWKIN DAWPE!…..BAUCE!

  618. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Lady never harmed a soul? Yeah I’m sure you were with her all throughout her years on earth….we all have a past and do some evil wicked shyt….you isnt exempted from as such….not saying murder is cool but dont front saying someone never harmed a soul when you dont have FACTS on such…..like yesterday when Mista and others showed you couldnt produce facts about California only being liberal in SF and LA….thats a complete lie

  619. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. Are you and your dad still looking for Ice Cube? He has to be scared.

  620. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ice Cube has a blog. He talked about Raider fans wanting to kill him. You don’t want to know what he said. I think it was funny. I would tell you, but I don’t want you to have a heart attack.

  621. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    X Raided and his friends would shoot you, Bri en. Just so you know. They don’t give passes to male groupies in Meadowview.

  622. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Seemed down to earth when I met him (Rolando McClain) at Kincaid’s……

    ……….

    LIAR.

  623. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    LOL. Are you and your dad still looking for Ice Cube? He has to be scared.

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Ice Cube has a blog. He talked about Raider fans wanting to kill him. You don’t want to know what he said. I think it was funny. I would tell you, but I don’t want you to have a heart attack.
    ********************************************

    HAHAHAHAHA you hate the Raiders and love the fact a fake ass n*gga like Ice Cube is throwing salt on the people up here in Northern California

    Cube is a sucka and wont do a damn thing….You write to blog and tell Cube I’ll meet him in a bathroom where no muthafugga can run from an ass beating….just like you he will back down

  624. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    CUBE DIDN’T DISS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU DRAMA QUEEN DRY SNITCHING PUNK. HE DISSED DUMB ASS RAIDER FANS LIKE YOU.

  625. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Seemed down to earth when I met him (Rolando McClain) at Kincaid’s……

    ……….

    LIAR.
    *****************************

    Please tell me how I am lying MR…..just like when I met Jason Campbell at Kincaid’s you were on the blog trying to shoot that down lol…..Many Raider players go into Kincaid’s….nothing new man. Also Jason and Louis Murphy hit up Chicken & Waffles at JL Square all the time…….your problem is anger at the fact your life amounts to little but constant store runs for more emotion lotion

  626. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    By far the funniest thing ever said at this blog:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    tell Cube I’ll meet him in a bathroom where no muthafugga can run from an ass beating….just like you he will back down

    ………….

    BWWWWWWWWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!

  627. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    CUBE DIDN’T DISS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU DRAMA QUEEN DRY SNITCHING PUNK. HE DISSED DUMB ASS RAIDER FANS LIKE YOU.
    ************************

    Please show me blog lingk so i can sign up and invite Cube for a good ole one on one fight……..bet ya he wont show up….just like you wont show up at a Raider game to get your deserved beat down……let me guess you wont pay your money for a game until Al Davis croaks lol…….just come to get beat up and then go back to the Sac all lumped up and shyt

  628. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    By far the funniest thing ever said at this blog:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    tell Cube I’ll meet him in a bathroom where no muthafugga can run from an ass beating….just like you he will back down

    ………….

    BWWWWWWWWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!
    **********************************

    Exactly backing down again from MR………….Welch on bets and refuse to show his face at Raider games…..coward

  629. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    More lies from IBA.com/Raider’s resident wannabe G:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Seemed down to earth when I met him (Rolando McClain) at Kincaid’s……

    ……….

    LIAR.
    *****************************

    Please tell me how I am lying MR…..just like when I met Jason Campbell at Kincaid’s

    (lie)

    you were on the blog trying to shoot that down lol…..Many Raider players go into Kincaid’s….

    (maybe true, but they don’t kick it or even talk to nobodies like Lyin’ Bri en…)

    nothing new man. Also Jason and Louis Murphy hit up Chicken & Waffles at JL Square all the time…….

    (same as above)

    your problem is anger at the fact your life amounts to little but constant store runs for more emotion lotion

    (your problem is that you can’t type one sentence without lying, and you’re a wannabe)

  630. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    More comedy:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Please show me blog lingk so i can sign up and invite Cube for a good ole one on one fight…….

  631. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    More lies from IBA.com/Raider’s resident wannabe G:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Seemed down to earth when I met him (Rolando McClain) at Kincaid’s……

    ……….

    LIAR.
    *****************************

    Please tell me how I am lying MR…..just like when I met Jason Campbell at Kincaid’s

    (lie)

    you were on the blog trying to shoot that down lol…..Many Raider players go into Kincaid’s….

    (maybe true, but they don’t kick it or even talk to nobodies like Lyin’ Bri en…)

    nothing new man. Also Jason and Louis Murphy hit up Chicken & Waffles at JL Square all the time…….

    (same as above)

    your problem is anger at the fact your life amounts to little but constant store runs for more emotion lotion

    (your problem is that you can’t type one sentence without lying, and you’re a wannabe)
    ************************************

    HAHAHA typical of MR…sorry but Jerry even confirmed that pic I sent of Jason Campbell and Hue eating dinner together April 25th was indeed fact!. Wanna see Jerry’s email to me? Meanwhile an idiot like you said I was the janitor at Kincaid’s hahahahahahahahaha….yes it is in the archives…stop scrambling lil virgin.

    Now why wouldnt players talk to regular people? Please try and put a spin on that….players appreciate the support and excitement from people.

    Sorry you dont come to JL square because you are stuck in the Mobile Home Estates in the rural areas outside of Sac

  632. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lyin’ Bri en, before you get with Cube, who will surely have one of his bouncers toss you against against a wall like a trash bag, try going to South Sac and telling X Raided’s folks in the Gardens how big of a fan you are, and how the lady he killed probably had it coming because everyone’s done some evil. Make sure someone tapes the ass whooping they give you.

  633. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    More comedy:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Please show me blog lingk so i can sign up and invite Cube for a good ole one on one fight…….
    ******************************

    And you see no blog link lol…….cowardice of MR never can be hid

  634. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, so now you admit you were just taking pictures like a stupid groupie, because at first you were making it sound like they were kicking it with you. Backpedaling.

  635. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    Lyin’ Bri en, before you get with Cube, who will surely have one of his bouncers toss you against against a wall like a trash bag, try going to South Sac and telling X Raided’s folks in the Gardens how big of a fan you are, and how the lady he killed probably had it coming because everyone’s done some evil. Make sure someone tapes the ass whooping they give you.
    ******************************

    How come Cube cant toss me himself….aint he such a hardcore LA gangsta?LOL………when did I ever say the lady had it coming? Again MR you are acting like a woman and accusing someone of saying something they didnt even say….lol wimpish

  636. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Leave those Raiders players alone, Bri en. They like women. Not weirdo ass male fans stalking them. You’re liable to catch a beat down from one of them, too.

  637. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Oh, so now you admit you were just taking pictures like a stupid groupie, because at first you were making it sound like they were kicking it with you. Backpedaling.
    *******************************

    LOL tell me when I said they were kicking it with me……people go into eating venues and bars and sit down….actually talk to people…..sadly you have never gotten out of your Eminem trailer to ever meet anyone out and about

  638. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m acting like a woman? Who’s the mutha fugga following local celebrities around Jack London with his gay little camera phone?

  639. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You tried to make it sound like they were kicking it with you. Saying you saw them at Kincaid’s, met them there. Tell the truth. You were stalking them. Nobody introduced you to them. You introduced yourself, then took a picture. Groupie.

  640. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Leave those Raiders players alone, Bri en. They like women. Not weirdo ass male fans stalking them. You’re liable to catch a beat down from one of them, too.
    ********************************

    HAHA i aint catching a beatdown……I’m sporting Raider gear and they appreciate the support. They love how people havent given up on them(MR) after these awful 7 seasons

    MR you are a pitiful case and who cant even man up on bets

  641. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    I’m acting like a woman? Who’s the mutha fugga following local celebrities around Jack London with his gay little camera phone?
    *******************************

    See MR trippin his ownself up? He just said in post 629 that I was lying about meeting JC and Hue at Kincaid’s then just said I’m following local celebs around with my camera phone….LOL you know you dont fuked up right?

  642. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 30th, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    You tried to make it sound like they were kicking it with you. Saying you saw them at Kincaid’s, met them there. Tell the truth. You were stalking them. Nobody introduced you to them. You introduced yourself, then took a picture. Groupie.
    ***********************************

    What is wrong with sitting at the bar and sending your support to a player on your favorite team in the world? I see nada wrong wit that….Oh i get it…..they are employed by Al Davis so therefore they are terrible…..sure lol

  643. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You idiot. you think NFL players care if you’re wearing their team’s shyt? My god you’re the dumbest muther fugger ever. They hate male groupies. Period. Keep following them around like a weirdo and you will have problems.

  644. The Return of Godliness Says:

    MR,…..this isnt Sac where the Kings players dont wanna mingle with you cowtown bastards….this is the Bay Area where ppl are cool as fuk overall and those guys enjoy it here. I know that hurts your feelings that the people in Nor Cal are optimistic about the 2010 season but get over it

  645. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Here’s the problem with “sending your support” to your favorite players, Bri en. They get it all day. They just want to have a few drinks, pick up some women, relax, listen to the music, etc. The sound of male fans calling their name and forcing conversation on them might as well be fingernails going down a chalk board. That’s how annoying it is. Gets even more annoying when dorks like you bust out a camera. They deal with it all day. The best way to send them your support is to buy a ticket to a game, or buy some products advertised on television during games. That’s all the support they need. They don’t need your groupie ass jocking them like your’e some kind of tranny R&B songstress.

  646. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:02 am

    You idiot. you think NFL players care if you’re wearing their team’s shyt? My god you’re the dumbest muther fugger ever. They hate male groupies. Period. Keep following them around like a weirdo and you will have problems.
    ***************************

    LOL who said I followed them? I go into Kincaid’s frequently….before some of these guys could even legally drink that are on the team now……..hahahahaha and you know what football players like and dislike? MR you never played sports in your life so how would you know?

  647. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:05 am

    Here’s the problem with “sending your support” to your favorite players, Bri en. They get it all day. They just want to have a few drinks, pick up some women, relax, listen to the music, etc. The sound of male fans calling their name and forcing conversation on them might as well be fingernails going down a chalk board. That’s how annoying it is. Gets even more annoying when dorks like you bust out a camera. They deal with it all day. The best way to send them your support is to buy a ticket to a game, or buy some products advertised on television during games. That’s all the support they need. They don’t need your groupie ass jocking them like your’e some kind of tranny R&B songstress.
    **********************************

    HAHA this is MR’s meltdown happening…now he speaks for pro athletes when he doesnt even associate with the child athlete’s in his own area….that is a complete lie you fool…..those guys are in a pressure position and are ridiculed and booed when they stink! They generally appreciate support sending from people in the local area. If you say as such then you are a damn liar….but you have been proven to be a liar many times on this site…..notice I havent yet

  648. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Lyin’ Bri en, how’d you meet McClain, then? He didn’t introduce himself to you. Nobody introduced you to him. Tell me how you met him without being the 100th annoying retarded Raider fan that approached him and asked for a hand shake and picture that day? Groupie.

  649. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lyin’ Bri en you are even more retarded than I thought if you think pro athletes enjoy fans bugging them. They hate it. I know they say they like it, dumbass. They have to. It’s their job. When you ask a retail clerk if they’re having a good day. What do they say? That they’re pissed off, tired, and want to go home? They say, “yes, I am”. They’re lying. It’s what people do when they’re at work, Lyin’ Bri en. And celebrities are always at work, because their public image is marketable. You not only annoy them but you make them look bad, because you’re a bum and a wannabe gangster. They don’t need your kind of company.

  650. The Return of Godliness Says:

    But let’s talk about your self hate issues with being white…….what is it that ails you my friend? Dont like the tint to your skin? Dont like the texture of your hair? Are you one of those athletically deprived white guys the Schwab who wishes he had skills? Or is it the fact you are just a white nerd who cant find acceptance amongst his own and take it out on other whites that have a backbone?

  651. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Let’s talk about how you’re going to kick Ice Cube’s ass. What are you going to say to Ice Cube when you see him, Br ien? Give me a quick run down of what you’re going to say to him, before he snaps his fingers and has one of his bouncers drop kick you?

  652. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:09 am

    OK, Lyin’ Bri en, how’d you meet McClain, then? He didn’t introduce himself to you. Nobody introduced you to him. Tell me how you met him without being the 100th annoying retarded Raider fan that approached him and asked for a hand shake and picture that day? Groupie.
    *****************************

    Idiot its a common thing most football players arent ever noticed because their faces are usually covered by a helmet.

    How I met RoMac? Go run through archives and I described how it went down…….

    I didnt ask for a pic….I only took JC and Hue’s pic to show idiot Bay Area mediots that JC and Hue meeting 24 hours after the trade shows his dedication to being the QB of this team

  653. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Lyin’ Bri en you are even more retarded than I thought if you think pro athletes enjoy fans bugging them. They hate it. I know they say they like it, dumbass. They have to. It’s their job. When you ask a retail clerk if they’re having a good day. What do they say? That they’re pissed off, tired, and want to go home? They say, “yes, I am”. They’re lying. It’s what people do when they’re at work, Lyin’ Bri en. And celebrities are always at work, because their public image is marketable. You not only annoy them but you make them look bad, because you’re a bum and a wannabe gangster. They don’t need your kind of company.
    *********************************

    LOL just like Sean Payton was just joking when he said he was nervous in his interview with Al right?

  654. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lyin’ Bri en, did you approach McClain or did he approach you? Just answer that.

  655. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Of course Payton was joking. Why would anyone in the world be afraid of Al Davis?

  656. The Return of Godliness Says:

    BRB

  657. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’ll leave with this, Lyin’ Bri en. Make sure when you see X Raided and decide to approach him with your gay little camera phone like you do every celebrity, that you tell him Sac is a cow town. This dude killed a cafeteria worker for nothing. So you can figure out what he’ll do to you. See you tomorrow, male groupie.

  658. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Lyin’ Bri en, did you approach McClain or did he approach you? Just answer that.
    ****************************

    Refer to archives

  659. Violent Hands Says:

    tyvonbranch
    Tyvon Branch | Oakland, CA
    What’s gunna happen???? #nbafreeagents about 3 hours ago

  660. LT DAN Says:

    Still no breaking Raider news guess well still have to wait.

  661. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My belief on T Howard is the same with JLH as well. Just about every year the Raiders have a suprise cut or two of a veteran. Last year it was Garcia and Lorenzo Neal.

    ***

    Fire Baby: those dudes were older than dirt! and injured! and just recently signed!

  662. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al will give Tommy Kelly one more year to live up to that crazy contract and he takes most of snaps at UT

    ***

    ROG: Agreed

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly is or was asked to take a paycut already!

    Seymour tagged, Houston drafted and Cable’s mancrush on Desmond Bryant almost makes TK expendable

    if Henderson & Heard both stick, it’s hard to justify paying TK top DT money with his production there the past 2-3 years

    he might be one of those “surprise cuts” JFB was referring to imo…

    overpaid and non-productive Russell & Walker are already out this offseason (3’s a charm?)

  663. LT DAN Says:

    Morning/Afternoon RR. No doubt they didnt have what it takes anymore. I dont think either one played for another team last year.

  664. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Congrats to Kyle Boller!

    Carrie Prejean is a fox

  665. LT DAN Says:

    I enjoyed the link above for Megan Fox she truly is a fox.

  666. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont think either one played for another team last year.

    ***

    After quarterback Donovan McNabb suffered a fractured rib in Week One, the Eagles signed Garcia to a one-year contract on September 14, 2009. He was released on September 29, following Michael Vick’s return from suspension.

    but nobody even sniffed Lo’Neal

  667. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    # The Return of Godliness Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:03 am

    MR,…..this isnt Sac where the Kings players dont wanna mingle with you cowtown bastards….this is the Bay Area where ppl are cool as fuk overall and those guys enjoy it here. I know that hurts your feelings that the people in Nor Cal are optimistic about the 2010 season but get over it
    ————————————————————
    Ha Ha Ha ROG I have a ton of friends who are Queens fans and this will be a slam I use on them forever Ha Ha.

  668. LT DAN Says:

    I dont think anybody, but moss, that we have let go or traded recently have been successful for other teams.

  669. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Supposedly Rivers has never cursed, because he is a weird North Carolina bible-thumper.

    ***

    http://domestic-vocation.blogspot.com/2008/01/philip-rivers-catholic-quarterback.html

    JFB: is this what you’re talking about?

  670. LT DAN Says:

    I still think this guy could help the Raiders….probs in the past or not http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Trenches/entry/view/70282/trenches_talk_lions_want_no_part_of_albert_haynesworth

  671. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont think anybody, but moss, that we have let go or traded recently have been successful for other teams.

    ***

    you’re exactly right

    he was 1 in 100 and he got traded to the Pats (ideal situation).

    what if we traded him to St. Louis, Detroit or Cleveland ???

  672. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dan,

    I’d still take Fat Albert too.

    trade Tommy Kelly for him, straight up. TK is great at 3-4 DE. Remember that the donks were interested in him and that made Al Davis throw a can’t resist contract at him on the eve of free agency. think Shanny is still interested ???

    Seymour-Haynesworth-Henderson-Shaughnessy

    3rd downs:

    Houston-Seymour-Bryant-Groves

    Seymour = franchise player. he won’t come off the field unless he’s winded or injured

  673. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    LT DAN, Rockstar…what’s up fellas? So how long is this thread going to last?
    LOL

  674. LT DAN Says:

    I like Seymour a lot. Wish a lockout wasnt looming imo its the reason he hasnt been signed to a long term deal yet.

  675. LT DAN Says:

    Fun in the sun hmrdr.. I like the line up RR maybe old school 80s Raiders dline.

  676. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So how long is this thread going to last?

    ***

    good morning Hwnrdr!

    Jerry Mac’s post went from 06/20-06/29 for 3710 comments …

    think Steve Corkran will try to top that ???

  677. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rockstar,

    That was a creppy link.

    I just some him in interview once say he talks trash but never curses.

  678. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup, I’ll take that DLine…
    But isn’t Fat Albert and Shanny cool now? I thought thye worked out their issues and Albert will play for Washington?

  679. hwnrdr Says:

    Nah, I say tomorrow there will be a new post!

  680. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only TK, IMO, get cuts this year is if Heard is good enough to make the 53.

    I would look at him as a Practice Squader this year.

  681. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like the line up RR maybe old school 80s Raiders dline.

    ***

    that D-Line (above) would be a force to be reckoned with!

    every one of those guys (besides maybe Henderson) can get after the QB, as well as play the run

  682. LT DAN Says:

    I think fatalbert was just saying that for pr purposes

  683. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning JFB…
    I thought that TK is not eligible for practice sqaud anymore?

  684. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That was a creppy link.

    ***

    JFB: sorry – here is the first part of the article in that link … if you’re interested i’ll post the rest

    Sometime over the Summer – or perhaps it was early Fall – I watched an episode Life on the Rock where Philip Rivers was interviewed. (Note: Video may not work any more; I believe the interview was conducted by Father Francis Mary. I have searched for a copy on YouTube, but to no avail.) He spoke a bit about his faith, about how his proposal to his college sweetheart (a cheerleader!) was not a mistake, how he is happy to be married in spite of what teammates might think.

    One would think that someone who appears on EWTN and talks about how important his faith is to him would be more discerning about his behavior.

    Philip Rivers has, in recent games, acted in a manner totally unbefitting of a Catholic. Trash talking at the Broncos game. Taunting Colts fans.

    Seriously, is this how he thinks Catholic athletes should act?

  685. LT DAN Says:

    I think RR was meaning Heard

  686. hwnrdr Says:

    Knowing Fatso…that could be true! Still…if someone flashed $100 mill in my face and told me that I have to work for 4 years…geez…not too hard of a decision (no matter the change in management, etc)…

  687. hwnrdr Says:

    Well…let me retract…depends, I guess, lol

  688. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The only TK, IMO, get cuts this year is if Heard is good enough to make the 53.

    ***

    what if Houston is a beast and Bryant steps up his game ???

    couldn’t one of these guys start on the D-Line with Seymour, Shaughnessy & Henderson?

  689. hwnrdr Says:

    Was it Henderson who said that he looked up at the jumbotron and seen TK’s big fat arse…and hopefully he never sees that again?

  690. NFL News and Notes – July 1, 2010 | The Other 31 Says:

    [...] When interviewing with the Oakland Raiders, Saints head coach Sean Payton dined on fast food. [...]

  691. LT DAN Says:

    That was a funny story about Al buying SP Mcds burgers and KFC cole slaw. lol

  692. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Hey guys..

    take care of the fort the next few days, Im going to the worlds best festival till sunday…

    Prince, Muse, Alice in Chains, Gorillaz, them crooked vultures… and so on…

    http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/uk/

  693. hwnrdr Says:

    WOW….sounds like fun, LMN…Have a good one!

  694. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That was a funny story about Al buying SP Mcds burgers and KFC cole slaw.

    ***

    I dislike just about EVERYTHING from McDonalds and am not a fan of cole slaw either

    I would have demanded 2 for $1 hot dogs and 44oz soft drink from the nearest gas station!

    if he really wants to impress me? nachos as well :)

  695. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HwnRdr…

    will do! cant wait =)

  696. La Milicia Negra Says:

    KoolKell…

    if you are out there, one of my american colleagues told me to say, that you have to notice how people drive and how little they use the horn…

    He said it was the first weird and really nice thing he noticed about Copenhagen…

  697. hwnrdr Says:

    A 2 for 1 hot dog, a drink and Nachos? LOL
    Being in Oakland…I would have demanded Hegenburgers! (SP?) Those who been there know what I am talkig about!!!

  698. LT DAN Says:

    Just think if Cali had whataburgers he could have sealed the deal with Payton!

  699. hwnrdr Says:

    Rockstar….I do agree with you on the cole slaw, though. And definitely not from KFC! Who does that? Cheeseburgers and cole slaw? I guess uncle Al does…

  700. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He should have went to Nation’s.

    He could have got a 1/2 LB burger and the best Banana Cream pie man ever made.

  701. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Than stopped at the Safeway and got some real deli cole-slaw and maybe even get harassed from KoolKell.

    I believe Southwick has tightened this up.

  702. hwnrdr Says:

    That’s true…Nations is around the corner also! But Safeway for cole slaw? Sorry…I only eat home made ones…especially the ones that my dad makes (in fact only his one)!

  703. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    Who needs Sean Payton we got Cable baby!

  704. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I hate cole slaw, but I imagine if I were trying to impress, I would go to a deli.

    Not many deli’s @ 11 pm in Alameda, so Safeway might have been his only option.

  705. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I grill some awesome burgers, chicken & steak … no need for fast food most of the time

    waiting for my wife to get me a “Podunk Cafe” apron

    but I don’t wear aprons :)

    I do have a Raiders chef hat & grill apron though and all the utensils. came in a set from the Raider Image (I think?)

  706. LT DAN Says:

    I like cooking on a smoker. Brisket or ribs

  707. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I have an apron that say F*ck the cook.

    I never wear it though.

  708. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey JFB…
    Is that an invitation or a hatred quote? LOL

  709. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I used to wear it back in my single days, so it was an invitation.

    But it wasn’t often misconstued the other way..lol

  710. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raiders taking pressure off Rolando McClain
    Written by Levi “Dizzle” Damien
    Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:14

    When the Raiders drafted middle linebacker Rolando McClain and traded away former MLB Kirk Morrison, McClain was instantly seen by many as the savior of the Raider defensive woes. He had all the credentials coming out of Alabama of being the star linebacker and leader of the National Champion Crimson Tide defense.

    He can take whatever pressure the NFL and the Raiders can place on him, there is little doubt about that. But the Raiders have spent this offseason sculpting the defense around and in front of him with the sole purpose of not placing the entire weight of the defense on him.

    This can only be a good thing.

    I initially pegged McClain as the odds-on favorite to win the defensive rookie of the year. Afterall, Kirk Morrison led the Raiders in tackles for the past five seasons and in the end, he was considered somewhat of a disappointment and traded away. So it stands to reason that with even decent play from Rolando, he would certainly lead the team in tackles. Add to that fact that the defensive rookie of the year is often times a linebacker because of their penchant for racking up tackles. He will be the starter at the middle linebacker spot immediately and that translates to tackles on any team.

    I still think that it is a distinct possibility that he is named the DROY but the Raiders are not depending upon him to have a spectacular season for the defense to be a success.

    The most recent acquistion that cemented the team’s intentions of taking pressure off of McClain was the signing of former Pro Bowl defensive tackle John Henderson. The Raiders have been thin at defensive tackles in recent seasons. And they got even thinner with the release of Gerard Warren. Henderson is a big fella for sure with 335 pounds of movable mass. He can be a pure DT in the 4-3 or play as a nose tackle when the team lines up in a 3-4 look. He will eat up blockers and close gaps. He will make quite of a few tackles of his own and when he closes a gap, he will send the runner to the outside where they will meet a defensive end or an outside linebacker in most cases. This will ease the burden on McClain as well as lower his tackle total.

    The Henderson signing is only the latest in load displacing infusions to this Raider defense. McClain will also have new linebackers Kamerion Wimbley and Quentin Groves on each side. They add to the pass rush and coverage abilities of OLB’s Trevor Scott and Thomas Howard.

    The day after McClain heard his name called, he found out he would also have another big body in front of him in the form of DE/DT Lamarr Houston. He is a solid (pun intended) run stopper with pass rush abilities as well. And the Raiders franchise tagged Richard Seymour to ensure his return for one more season so the combination of Houston and Seymour will attempt to see to it that no running back can take the edge.

    In the end, McClain will likely have less tackles than Morrison was known for. But with his new teammates, those tackles should be more quality tackles for little gain, no gain or for a loss. Therefore, I will stand by my initial prediction and call it right now that, barring injury, Roland McClain will be the defensive rookie of the year. And the Raider defense will be extremely formidable. Not because of McClain’s tackle load, but despite them.

    http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/june/raiders-taking-pressure-off-rolando-mcclain.html

  711. Just Fire Baby Says:

    was often…not wasn’t often.

    Coffee!!!!

  712. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Morning Raider Nation:

    In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from the University of Toronto .

    On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air.

    The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.

    He got down on one knee, inspected the elephants foot, and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it.

    As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot.

    The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments.

    Peter stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled.

    Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away.

    Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.

    Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Toronto Zoo with his teenage son.

    As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and

    walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing.

    The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down.

    The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.

    Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter could not help wondering if this was the same elephant.

    Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing, and made his way into the enclosure.

    He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder.

    The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around one of Peter legs

    and slammed him against the railing, killing him instantly.

    Probably wasn’t the same fycking elephant.

    This is for everyone who post those heart-warming bullshyt stories.

  713. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Wow, Jim Otto’s prosthetic leg is silver and black!

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/6/30/1545872/jim-ottos-image-should-be-on-the

    I wonder if Tatum’s is too…

  714. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL…I hear ya JFB…
    Bo…thanks for that posting. Good article on McClain and our D!!!

  715. La Milicia Negra Says:

    well see ya… im out, i might join major wasted… now you’re all warned =)

    take care…

  716. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Kyle Boller is marrying that hypocritcal slut Carrie Prejean tomorrow. I bet Jano isn’t invited.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=66879

  717. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Byron Scott takes the Cavs job.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxwCuwvnGtL6ECqCm03ZNr1ns9PgD9GM8IHG0

  718. RaiderTW Says:

    I would have demanded 2 for $1 hot dogs and 44oz soft drink from the nearest gas station!
    ———-
    Geez RRS, do you know what parts of the cow goes in a hotdog? Lips & a$$hol3s!!!
    The gofer for Al (Herrera) was an idiot! He probably got the hamburgers first then they got cold hunting down cole slaw!

  719. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Yahoo! Ranks the Raiders Running Backs 21st in the NFL
    AUTHOR: Thomas Casale

    During the past week I have been posting the position rankings done by Yahoo! Sports’ Jason Cole. Today we look at running backs, a position Oakland lands at 21 in Cole’s rankings.

    Two of the Raiders AFC West rivals finished ahead of them in the rankings. The Broncos came in at No. 10 and the Chiefs at 17. The Chargers, however, ranked below Oakland in the 25th spot.

    In my opinion the Broncos are rated way too high. Knowshon Moreno had a solid rookie campaign but he did only average 3.8 yards per carry. Not to mention Moreno’s backup, Correll Buckhalter, is injured more often than he’s actually on the field.

    Here is what Cole had to say about the Raiders running backs:
    21. Oakland Raiders: Darren McFadden was lucky to be surrounded by the pathetic presence of quarterback JaMarcus Russell in his first two years. If not for the stench of Russell’s play, fans might be talking about McFadden as one of the all-time busts in draft history. In two years, Run DMC has made less noise in his career than his rap namesake has over the same period of time … and Jam-Master Jay has been gone from us for nearly a decade. Yeah, that’s harsh, but let’s be real about this. McFadden still has a great chance for success. There have been plenty of running backs who struggled for a couple of years and then hit it big, but the clock is ticking and the Raiders have other options, such as Michael Bush.

    Apparently Cole didn’t watch Bush play much last year since he barely mentioned him. Just so he knows, both times Bush received at least 14 carries in a game, he ran for over 100 yards and for the season Bush averaged 4.8 yards per carry.

    I’m just saying.

    http://justblogbaby.com/2010/07/01/yahoo-ranks-the-raiders-running-backs-no-21/

  720. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rolando McClain will be the defensive rookie of the year. And the Raider defense will be extremely formidable.

    ***

    thats exactly what Jwigg and I were saying the other day. Top 10 overall defense

    perhaps even Top 5 if the offense starts moving the chains, chewing up clock & scoring points!

    2010 Raiders = 10-6

  721. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Key quote:

    “If not for the stench of Russell’s play, fans might be talking about McFadden as one of the all-time busts in draft history.”

  722. hwnrdr Says:

    Trade DMac for the stench!

  723. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The most recent acquistion that cemented the team’s intentions of taking pressure off of McClain was the signing of former Pro Bowl defensive tackle John Henderson. The Raiders have been thin at defensive tackles in recent seasons. And they got even thinner with the release of Gerard Warren. Henderson is a big fella for sure with 335 pounds of movable mass. He can be a pure DT in the 4-3 or play as a nose tackle when the team lines up in a 3-4 look. He will eat up blockers and close gaps. He will make quite of a few tackles of his own and when he closes a gap, he will send the runner to the outside where they will meet a defensive end or an outside linebacker in most cases. This will ease the burden on McClain as well as lower his tackle total.

    The Henderson signing is only the latest in load displacing infusions to this Raider defense. McClain will also have new linebackers Kamerion Wimbley and Quentin Groves on each side. They add to the pass rush and coverage abilities of OLB’s Trevor Scott and Thomas Howard.

    ***

    Henderson makes the entire defense better.

    a few things …

    1) I expect Groves to be a pass rushing specialist DE in the mold of Burgess, Ellis, Clemons & Scott (a bit of a tweener, but a sack artist). tore up many QB’s at Auburn

    2) Scott is not known for his pass coverage, but for his ability to get after the QB. Replaced Howard at WLB because TH was getting abused against the run

    3) you can still have a nose tackle in a 4-3 defense and it’s actually called a NT, not a “pure DT”

  724. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McFadden still has a great chance for success. There have been plenty of running backs who struggled for a couple of years and then hit it big, but the clock is ticking and the Raiders have other options, such as Michael Bush.

    Apparently Cole didn’t watch Bush play much last year since he barely mentioned him. Just so he knows, both times Bush received at least 14 carries in a game, he ran for over 100 yards and for the season Bush averaged 4.8 yards per carry.

    ***

    Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker = 16 game starters (barring injury)

    I don’t expect to see much of Veldheer, Barnes, Morris, Campbell or Pears unless the above mentioned totally tank

    I said that to say this … the running game will go as far as the O-Line will take them

    better play calling and a legit QB makes our offense less predictable. Mark Schlereth (NFL Live) is a Raider Hater and even he says “the Raiders can run on anybody”

    A very good defense will keep the score close and allow us to run more instead of going pass happy to play catch-up

    I expect a Top 10 rushing attack and don’t care who starts.

  725. hwnrdr Says:

    This is what I say…Bring on the Season!!! Tired of boredom…baseball is not exciting yet! (Is it ever?)

  726. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 7:20 am
    Key quote:

    “If not for the stench of Russell’s play, fans might be talking about McFadden as one of the all-time busts in draft history.”
    ++++++

    It should say…”If not for the stench of Russell’s play and the horrible o-line play and the poor play calling by wannabe head coach Tom Cable McFadden would have had a fabulous season last year.” ,

  727. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Geez RRS, do you know what parts of the cow goes in a hotdog?

    ***

    TW: I doubt those 2 for $1 hotdogs are all-beef franks from oscar meyer or ballpark.

    they mix in chicken, turkey & beef. maybe just a slight touch of dog poop, salt & pepper

    I’m not picky, if it tastes good? EAT IT!

    Bratwurst is the best though. and I’ve never spent the time to find out whats in there

    beer brats or cheddarwurst (Johnsonville) = commitment to excellence

  728. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    It should say…”If not for the stench of Russell’s play and the horrible o-line play and the poor play calling by wannabe head coach Tom Cable McFadden would have had a fabulous season last year.”

    Did Cable and Russell trip DMAC all season? And make him fumble so much? Dakota = ostrich.

  729. Dakota Says:

    I heard that after firing Tom Cable this coming January, Al Davis plans on trying to sway next season’s head coaching target with a buffet table featuring gas station gut bomb burgers, frozen burritos, 3 day old hot dogs and nachos with extra cheese!

  730. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 7:42 am
    It should say…”If not for the stench of Russell’s play and the horrible o-line play and the poor play calling by wannabe head coach Tom Cable McFadden would have had a fabulous season last year.”

    Did Cable and Russell trip DMAC all season? And make him fumble so much? Dakota = ostrich.
    +++++++++++

    Russell’s greasy fingers certainly contributed to the fumbles….as to the tripping Bo = exaggerator.

  731. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, the greasy fingers are gone…

  732. RaiderTW Says:

    Does anyone remember when the Raider’s coaching staff picked up Hostetler at the airport for an interview they had a flat on their rental which Jeff H changed for the coaches before he was signed!

  733. Dakota Says:

    If the brilliant Raiders’ medical staff didn’t fit McFadden with Ronald McDonald shoes he probably would not have tripped the three times he did last season.

  734. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Hostetler looked like a tow truck driver too.

  735. hwnrdr Says:

    Haha…I guess Hoss really wanted to come here!
    Rental…geez, what is wrong with their own cars? Must be nice!

  736. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RECAP from last year

    McFadden ran 12 times for 35 yards and a touchdown and caught two passes for 20 yards in the Raiders’ 13-10 win over the Chiefs on Sunday.

    Analysis: McFadden had a pretty good day considering the entire Oakland offense totaled 166 yards. The Raiders’ passing game has struggled mightily with JaMarcus Russell completing a league-worst 35.2 percent of his passes through the first two games. If Russell can fix that, it could open things up for McFadden.

  737. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Dakota:

    You SURE it was only 3 times?

  738. RaiderRockstar Says:

    above was courtesy of CBS Sports. sorry

    DMC year 1 = turf toe on both feet, shoulder injury, steel plate in his shoes

    DMC year 2 = missed 4 games with a knee injury

  739. Dakota Says:

    4 time, tops

  740. RaiderTW Says:

    Anyone see Nnamdi on TNT’s Leverage the other night?

  741. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Remember when Charles Woodson had turf toe on ONE foot? Played horribly. Everyone excused him. Played great when he recovered. Why rip DMac? I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what he can do, injury free, with an improved O-line, QB, and receiver corps. Due to past injuries and lack of supporting cast, I consider this his rookie season.

  742. RaiderTW Says:

    McFaddy fumbled 3 times in the first Denver game alone, lost it once.

  743. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    I “lost it” all 3 times!

  744. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Frank,

    C Wood has always been a great player, but I don’t think he ever matured and started taking the game seriously until he got to Green Bay … blame that on the Raiders if you like, but I think he started thinking more about film study, working hard during the offseason and perfecting his game rather than drinking, going to clubs, missing team meetings and asking for a boatload of money

    one thing I just can’t forget is when we played the Bears and Kordell Stewart was thier QB. awful passer, reminds me of Vince Young. He rolled out, couldn’t find anybody and then started running down the sideline. Wood comes up to tackle him. Kordell lowers his shoulder and flattens him. C Wood got trucked by a QB on the sideline! and he was healthy for that game!

    I don’t see that happening in GB. and we got a guy like Nnamdi who basically saved the Chiefs game last year shutting down that big horse Larry Johnson in the flat, keeping him inbounds in an open field 1-on-1 situation as time expired in the first half

  745. M Lonetree Says:

    BSPN is reporting that this newest round of NBA free agency has been thrown for a loop.
    Foregoing what would have been more lucrative NBA money, LeBron “King” James has just signed an offer extended by the Oakland Raiders.
    James was quoted as saying that he always wanted to wear the Silver and Black and that when Al Davis offered a position on the team he jumped at the chance.
    When questioned about which position that might be for the Raiders James said “I’ve always wanted to be bent over and then bullrushed by large men, so I’m hoping I can be the longsnapper.”
    BSPN’s calls to Pro Bowl longsnapper Jon Condo for comment went unanswered.
    Speculation has a future for Condo prepping cabbage in a local KFC where his former Raider teammate and #4 overall draft pick Darren McFumble tries daily to hoist buckets of the Colonel’s chicken to the customers without dropping them.

  746. J Wiggle Says:

    Dakota,

    How about Al Harrington for the MLE?

  747. J Wiggle Says:

    they mix in chicken, turkey & beef. maybe just a slight touch of dog poop, salt & pepper

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

  748. RaiderRockstar Says:

    James can earn perhaps $125 million over six years by staying in Cleveland; $96 million over five years if he goes. (The exact figures can’t be determined until next season’s salary cap is set in July). But leaving could put him in a better position to win a championship.

    He’ll first meet Thursday with the Nets’ traveling party that includes new owner Mikhail Prokhorov, coach Avery Johnson, president Rod Thorn and hip-hop superstar Jay-Z, a part-owner and James’ longtime friend.

    Then the Knicks will drop in. They can afford to pay him and another classmate the maximum next season, which might be what they need to finally get going again after a franchise-record nine straight losing seasons.

    “We’ve had to live through some tough times in order to get where you think you start rebuilding the franchise,” Walsh said. “We have that opportunity now. How well, how fast we can rebuild the team can be shortcut by getting great players.”

    They’ll have plenty of competition. The Heat, Nets, Bulls and Clippers also can afford to offer a player about $16.6 million next season, which is the maximum someone with James’ amount of NBA experience can make. Chicago and New Jersey made trades in recent days to push them closer to joining the Knicks with enough to offer two max deals, and the Heat can keep Wade, give an additional max contract and have enough left over for another quality player.

  749. J Wiggle Says:

    Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker = 16 game starters (barring injury)

    I don’t expect to see much of Veldheer, Barnes, Morris, Campbell or Pears unless the above mentioned totally tank

    ——————————————————

    For the Oline to be our biggest weakness according to the coaching staff, I’d say going into the season with Langston Walker as the only “upgrade” would have me concerned.

  750. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bosh also took to Twitter to inform followers he’d also received presentations from Chicago, Miami and Toronto.

    Pat Riley and a Heat contingent also began their free agency tour in California, where teams were hoping to meet with Stoudemire. Miami also planned to meet with Joe Johnson.

    Atlanta’s Joe Johnson was expecting early visits in Los Angeles from the Hawks and New York Knicks, with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporting that the Hawks were prepared to offer the All-Star shooting guard a maximum salary contract

  751. RaiderRockstar Says:

    For the Oline to be our biggest weakness according to the coaching staff, I’d say going into the season with Langston Walker as the only “upgrade” would have me concerned.

    ***

    Jwigg: Veldheer & Campbell aren’t as big of upgrades as you’re expecting – not this year anyways.

    Veldheer is a small school project with raw talent who will need to be groomed. in essence, another Mario Henderson (except he played at Florida State)

    Campbell is a LONG ways off from contributing anywhere on this line. If he starts so much as 1 game this year, I’ll be shocked … even if we start racking up injuries again

    Gallery is back healthy, Satele with 16 starts at center after more time to learn the zbs and Henderson cares once again now that he has a competent QB under center are also things we didn’t have last year NOT JUST LANGSTON

    the o-line will be fine

  752. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    C Wood has always been a great player, but I don’t think he ever matured and started taking the game seriously until he got to Green Bay … blame that on the Raiders if you like, but I think he started thinking more about film study, working hard during the offseason and perfecting his game rather than drinking, going to clubs, missing team meetings and asking for a boatload of money

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I disagree. Packer followers here in the midwest have told me that he is infamous (still) for not practicing hard, studying, or putting in much extra effort. However his relationship with teamates and his play on the field has been exemplary. No surprises.

  753. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:30 am
    BSPN is reporting that this newest round of NBA free agency has been thrown for a loop.
    Foregoing what would have been more lucrative NBA money, LeBron “King” James has just signed an offer extended by the Oakland Raiders.
    James was quoted as saying that he always wanted to wear the Silver and Black and that when Al Davis offered a position on the team he jumped at the chance.
    When questioned about which position that might be for the Raiders James said “I’ve always wanted to be bent over and then bullrushed by large men, so I’m hoping I can be the longsnapper.”
    BSPN’s calls to Pro Bowl longsnapper Jon Condo for comment went unanswered.
    Speculation has a future for Condo prepping cabbage in a local KFC where his former Raider teammate and #4 overall draft pick Darren McFumble tries daily to hoist buckets of the Colonel’s chicken to the customers without dropping them.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMFAO!

  754. J Wiggle Says:

    trade Tommy Kelly for him, straight up. TK is great at 3-4 DE.

    ——————————————————-

    So TK – Henderson – Seymour as our 3-4 Dline doesn’t interest you?

    LBs = Wimbley McClain Scott Howard

  755. J Wiggle Says:

    So we are just “hoping” Henderson plays better now because he cares? The coach identified him as the weak link of the Oline, and I absolutely agree with him. His performance last year was embarassing even with the other QBs. How long do we have to see this train wreck? Are we still going to have to give him help with a TE or RB?

    Agree with you on Satele

    Carlisle is terrible. I can’t imagine Barnes or Campbell being worse.

  756. TBRaiders Says:

    From Blog:
    Parcells, along with former Raiders coaches Bill Callahan, Jon Gruden and John Fox, reportedly discouraged Payton from accepting the Raiders job.

    Followed a link earlier today and ran across this old SI article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/02/23/mmqb/index.html
    g. I wonder what the next meeting between Bill Parcells and Al Davis, long-time friends, will be like. There are those in Raider Nation who think Parcells talked Sean Payton out of taking the Oakland head-coaching job, which reportedly did not please Al. But I have it on good authority that Parcells did NOT talk Payton out of the Raiders job. Payton thought himself out of it.

    Off topic, but this gem was in there too:
    b. I can’t see the Giants passing on Iowa tackle Robert Gallery with the fourth pick in the first round. Why wouldn’t they take a 6-7, 325-pound left tackle who runs a sub-five-second 40 and who has the character and the work ethic to be their left tackle for the next 10 years?

  757. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So TK – Henderson – Seymour as our 3-4 Dline doesn’t interest you?

    ***

    Jwigg: as N21 points out, we’ll use a 3-4 looks on occasion to confuse the defense or send pressure, but our base remains a 4-3 with pressure from the front 4 alone

    I’m a fan of the 3-4 defense. I’d love to have Dick LeBeau here. With the talent on this defense, we’d be #1 next year … no doubt

    However, I don’t think Marshall, Waufle, Haluchak and “Coach Davis” have that in mind.

    The reason guys like Haynesworth & Henderson balk at playing on a 3-4 line is because they are proven Pro Bowlers on a 4-3 line and change isn’t always for the better. a 3-4 NT has a much more difficult task and many Raider fans have expressed concern already about Henderson being able to contribute as a 4-3 DT. Jerry Mac heard that big John was “done” from a scout on a different team, right? I hope that scout was wrong, because we’re counting on him big time. I don’t trust a pair of DT’s like Kelly & Bryant to get it done in the middle. I say put John on a 4 man line and let him clog and collapse running lanes all day long on 1st & 2nd downs. Take him off the field on 3rd downs and slide Seymour over or bring in a fresh Bryant to push the center back in the QB’s face.

  758. Dakota Says:

    My Lakers’ Championship shirts are on the way baby! Currently sitting in KC…should be here in 2 days!

  759. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So we are just “hoping” Henderson plays better now because he cares? The coach identified him as the weak link of the Oline, and I absolutely agree with him. His performance last year was embarassing even with the other QBs. How long do we have to see this train wreck? Are we still going to have to give him help with a TE or RB?

    ***

    for the most part, yes. He’ll have every opportunity to win the starter LT job again.

    Will he have help? no.

    If he can’t hack it? Expect Khalif Barnes to give it a go … not Veldheer

    the whole team quit on JaWalrus last year, not just Mario. the coaching staff benched him for 3 different QB’s. and his effect on the OL & WR’s? JaMarcus even said “they are making plays for the other guys at QB” for the difference why the passing game had improved once he got yanked

  760. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Currently sitting in KC…should be here in 2 days!

    ***

    Want me to pick them up?

    I could “personalize” them for you :)

    haha

  761. Dakota Says:

    Watch it Rockstar! You are messing with FIRE!

    lol

  762. J Wiggle Says:

    but our base remains a 4-3 with pressure from the front 4 alone

    ——————————————————-

    Base ???

    What does that mean?

    How many times do you see the other team come out in a traditional 2RB 2WR 1TE set?

    If LBs like Grove, Scott, and Wimbley end up at DE rushing the passer with TK, Seymour, and Henderson flanking them, is that really a 4-3?

    I think we are way past the vanilla 4 man fronts we’ve seen in the past.

  763. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think we are way past the vanilla 4 man fronts we’ve seen in the past.

    ***

    I sure hope so, but I’m not gonna take that to the bank

    Week 1 John Marshall trotted out Rob Ryan’s old favorite prevent defense, remember?

    Then the Philly game he went aggressive and said he hopes he doesn’t get in trouble for it …

  764. LT DAN Says:

    Grove and Wimbley are not proven players that should makes us go to a 34.

  765. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Grove and Wimbley are not proven players that should makes us go to a 34.

    ***

    Jax & Cleveland ran a 3-4 defense last year and were happy to trade away these players …

    good point Dan.

    we haven’t seen Trevor Scott or Thomas Howard in a 3-4 defense either!

  766. Dakota Says:

    1. J Wiggle Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:36 am
    Dakota,
    How about Al Harrington for the MLE?
    ________________________

    What about trading Odom to the Wizards for K. Hinrich and then not re-signing Fisher and using a portion of the MLE on a big? Maybe Harrington….but isn’t he a cancer?

  767. LT DAN Says:

    Scott would have to play over the TE and Howard away or it would be bad match ups for us.

  768. Dakota Says:

    Car sales dropping, home sales dropping, consumer confidence dropping, unemployment still high despite job growth numbers skewed by the temps hired for the census.

    Hundreds of billions, if not trillions wasted.

  769. Jonesy941 Says:

    i dont think we will be seeing scott whimbley or groves trying to cover gates, clark, davis, witten or players like that they would have to use howard other wise why did we keep him he is great in coverage for a LB

  770. Jonesy941 Says:

    how about no one messes with my lakers team fisher is not going anywhere maybe bynum odom will prob stay.

  771. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    > No Harrington, thanks. I’d rather keep Powell.

    > With Farmar and maybe Brown gone Fisher MUST stay. Crittendon might develop.

    > I have regained some faith in Sasha after the finals, but Raja Bell would be a HUGE plus at the 2 spot.

    > If the Lakers could get anyone decent for Odom I would send his inconsistent ass out of town.

  772. MistaBrown Says:

    And the job stimulus ONLY cost tax payers 800 Billion! Money wasted, we will never get back, complete waste.

    Liberal economics!
    ____

    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 9:47 am
    Car sales dropping, home sales dropping, consumer confidence dropping, unemployment still high despite job growth numbers skewed by the temps hired for the census.

    Hundreds of billions, if not trillions wasted.

  773. MistaBrown Says:

    How about put NBA talk on hold for the next 4 months.
    ____

    Jonesy941 Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am
    how about no one messes with my lakers team fisher is not going anywhere maybe bynum odom will prob stay.

  774. Dakota Says:

    Jonesy941 Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:15 am
    how about no one messes with my lakers team fisher is not going anywhere maybe bynum odom will prob stay.
    ++++++++

    Come on Jonesy, Bynum was drafted by Jim Buss, the owner’s son, so it would take a major deal (L. James, Chris Bosh) to pry him from the Lakers. Odom was, once again, a major dissapointment coming off the bench and Fisher is 34 years old. We could replace Fisher with 28 year old Hinrich, who is a better 3 point shooter and a better defender than Fisher, and replace Odom with another backup big that will give us consistant numbers off the bench. Odom’s $8.33 mill would be replaced by Hinrich’s $9 Mill and getting rid of Fisher would save $5 mill that would then open the door for the Lakers to use the $6.8 mill MLE on a replacement for Odom.

    I like the idea…

    Always look to get better!

  775. Dakota Says:

    or should I say:

    disappointment

    consistent

  776. RaiderTW Says:

    Dakota Says:
    Car sales dropping, home sales dropping, consumer confidence dropping, unemployment still high despite job growth numbers skewed by the temps hired for the census.
    Hundreds of billions, if not trillions wasted.
    ———–
    http://crooksandliars.com/ian-welsh/how-bailing-out-rich-created-depression
    Then why are your repub buddies so against Wall st reform. Americans will remember that in Nov.

  777. MistaBrown Says:

    Libtard and wealth redistribution confidence is SKY HIGH!
    ____

    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 9:47 am
    Car sales dropping, home sales dropping, consumer confidence dropping, unemployment still high despite job growth numbers skewed by the temps hired for the census.

    Hundreds of billions, if not trillions wasted.

  778. MistaBrown Says:

    TW is high on Govt cheese.

  779. Dakota Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am
    How about put NBA talk on hold for the next 4 months.

    ++++++++++

    Sorry….other than Obama, there is nothing else to talk about until training camp….

  780. MistaBrown Says:

    Hope & change
    ____
    By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber, Ap Economics Writer – 18 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Fears that the economic recovery is fizzling grew Thursday after the government and private sector issued weak reports on a number of fronts.

    Unemployment claims are up, home sales are plunging without government incentives and manufacturing growth is slowing.

    Meanwhile, 1.3 million people are without federal jobless benefits now that Congress adjourned for a weeklong Independence Day recess without passing an extension. That number could grow to 3.3 million by the end of the month if lawmakers can’t resolve the issue when they return.

  781. RaiderTW Says:

    Mistablond is high on Corporate wealfare.

  782. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Get em TW. The stimulus staved off a major depression, but the hole W dug for this nation is just too deep to climb out of overnight.

  783. LT DAN Says:

    Bush bailed out wall street first and that set the libs up for even more bailouts

  784. RaiderRockstar Says:

    *fart*

  785. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Repub answer to this major recession: cut taxes for the rich, cut regulations for big business, cut the American worker loose to fend for himself.

    Isn’t that how we got in this mess in the first place? They lost the election. It wasn’t even close. Time for some ideas that could work instead of those that have proven to be disastrous.

  786. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Time for some trickle UP economics… anyone else here ready to piss on some greedy bankers?

  787. RaiderTW Says:

    BSJ, it’s amazing they have the b@lls & arrogence to critisize ANYthing another party does. Thank gawd for the Tea baggers splitting them into lol.

  788. LT DAN Says:

    IMO the big prob is reps and dems dont work together at all. The politicians, both sides of the aisle,only care about reelection and not “people”

  789. fat kidd Says:

    Chris Simms arrested for driving while impaired by marijuana
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 1, 2010 12:42 PM ET
    Titans quarterback Chris Simms was arrested in New York City early this morning for operating a motor vehicle while impaired by marijuana, the New York Post is reporting.

    According to the report, Simms “was observed with red eyes, flushed face and slurred speech at around 2 a.m.”

    Simms spent Thursday morning getting booked and awaiting arraignment at Manhattan Criminal Court.

    Simms is the second Titans quarterback to be arrested in less than a month; Vince Young got an assault citation in June for hitting someone at a strip club in Dallas.

  790. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Simms is the second Titans quarterback to be arrested in less than a month

    ***

    seems like the perfect time for a Kerry Collins DUI, doesn’t it ???

  791. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dolts WR Vincent Jackson suspended 3 games (NFL Personal Conduct Policy)

  792. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cavs are the 5th visit to LeBron (Saturday) after the Nets, Knicks, Heat & Bulls …

  793. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wade meets with Bulls. Knicks up next. then possibly Miami

  794. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nets also in the mix for Wade…

    Darko stays with Wolves

    Salmons stays a Buck

  795. Try Cheating Says:

    Executive Summary: The Subprime Mortgage Market Collapse: A Primer on the Causes and Possible SolutionsPublished on April 22, 2008 by Ronald Utt, Ph.D.

    The collapse of the subprime mortgage market in late 2006 set in motion a chain reaction of economic and financial adversity that has spread to global financial markets, created depression-like condi­tions in the housing market, and pushed the U.S. economy to the brink of recession. In response, many in Congress and the executive branch have proposed new federal spending and credit pro­grams that would greatly expand the role of govern­ment in the economy but do little to alleviate the distress caused by the financial crisis that has spread rapidly to nearly all sectors of the economy.

    The Financial Crisis. These problems origi­nated in the mid-1990s, when mortgage lenders relaxed the previously strict financial qualifications for obtaining a mortgage to buy a house by offering mortgage loans to credit-impaired households, albeit at higher interest rates to compensate for the greater risk. Despite the many different forms that these mortgages would ultimately assume (e.g., no down payment, interest-only, and negative amorti­zation), they were designated “subprime” because of the borrowers’ checkered credit histories. Despite the risk associated with these subprime mortgages, many mortgage lenders further relaxed their under­writing standards and in the process introduced even more risk into the system, some of it motivated by fraud and misrepresentation.

    Looser lending standards enabled previously unqualified borrowers to become homeowners, and the homeownership rate soared from the 64 percent range of the 35 years before 1995 to an all-time high of 69 percent in 2004. While most celebrated this accomplishment, lending to riskier borrowers under diminished underwriting standards led to an escalating number of loan defaults and foreclosures beginning in 2006. Because many of these loans had been repackaged into mortgage-backed securities, the growing default problem soon spread to inves­tors in national and international financial markets where these instruments were sold.

    The first to suffer was the housing market when new construction and sales of new and existing homes plunged. This was soon followed by a decline in home values, which worsened the mort­gage market’s financial problems by reducing the value of the collateral securing these loans. As many subprime borrowers found themselves owning houses worth less than the debt owed on them, their incentive to default increased. By the end of 2007, more than 17 percent of subprime borrowers had fallen behind on their loan payments.

    Many hope that the housing market has reached bottom and will soon revive, but this seems unlikely. The subprime default and foreclosure problems first emerged when the economy was healthy, most borrowers were employed, and hous­ing values were stable or rising. In 2008, home prices and sales are falling, some borrowers may soon be unemployed, tightened credit standards will exclude many from homeownership, and the number of subprime mortgages resetting to higher payments will be much greater than the number that reset in 2006 or 2007.

    As a consequence, the homeownership rate will likely fall from its record levels near 69 percent to something closer to the historic norm of 64 percent. This trend implies that a greater number of lost homes will come onto the market at a time when sales are already depressed.

    Proposed Solutions: Good and Bad. Under the circumstances, government policies should focus on cost-effective ways to facilitate the transition to a sustainable housing market of fewer homeowners and/or lower home prices, as opposed to costly exercises to prop up the inflated and unsustainable market of the sort that existed from 2004 to 2006.

    One way to do this might be to encourage cre­ation of a privately funded version of the Resolution Trust Corporation that helped to wind down the portfolios of the dead and dying savings and loan industry during the catastrophic collapse of the real estate market in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Capitalized by financial institutions looking to sell off portions of their troubled mortgage portfolios (an ownership share of the entity would be a pre­requisite for using it), the corporation would be tasked with choosing the most cost-effective way to deal with each troubled mortgage, ranging from foreclosure to restructuring. A new private entity, the Private National Mortgage Acceptance Com­pany (PennyMac) has already been created to do just that. More will be needed and should be encouraged.

    This approach would be superior to many of the costly plans that Congress and the Administration have been discussing, all of which would expand existing federal programs to some degree and/or create new ones, often at substantial taxpayer expense. While only a few of these proposals have been acted on, the threat of a worsening economy and upcoming presidential and congressional elec­tions may encourage members of both parties to succumb to the temptation of a massive bailout. As this report reveals, the history of such government intervention in housing markets is not marked by much success. Many of the current proposals prom­ise to carry on this tradition of failure.

    Conclusion. Among the many risks confronting the United States is that many of the proposed relief measures would substantially and permanently expand the scope of the federal government while doing little to address the current financial crisis. Few will remember that, while the New Deal of the 1930s substantially and permanently increased the scope of the federal government, the process was well underway before Franklin Roosevelt took office in 1932. Following the stock market collapse in October 1929, the Hoover Administration attempted to spend its way out of the Great Depres­sion, increasing federal spending by 47 percent between 1929 and 1932. As a result, federal spend­ing as a percentage of GDP increased from 3.4 per­cent in 1930 to 6.9 percent in 1932 and reached 9.8 percent by 1940. During that period, many of the federal programs now being buffed up for expanded action-Fannie Mae, Home Owners’ Loan Corpora­tion, FHA, FHLBB-were created for much the same purpose.

    While this point of nostalgia has excited many advocates of an expanded federal government, ordi­nary citizens and taxpayers should note that, despite all of the new government spending and bureaucracy, fewer Americans had jobs 1940 than in 1929. Furthermore, the homeownership rate of 43.6 percent in 1940 was the lowest recorded by the Census Bureau, even below the 47.6 percent rate of 1890.

  796. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:43 am
    Time for some trickle UP economics

    *****************************

    You mean trickle Up poverty?

  797. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t get the blame game on the bailout talk.

    Many blame Bush for bailing out the banks, but Obama voted in favor of it. Many credit Obama for bailing out or saving GMAC, but that also happened under W’s watch.

    Which one is it?? I can’t keep track these days.

  798. RaiderTW Says:

    Since moving to Denver here are the controversial games played here. See a difference in ref treatment compared to Raider controversial games?

    . Nov. 11, 1985

    Denver 17, San Francisco 16

    The original snowball game, when a fan in the east stands launched a snowball just as 49er Ray Wersching was setting up to kick a field goal. The snowball landed a few yards from Matt Cavanaugh, who bobbled the snap, stood up and threw incomplete. Rich Karlis hit a 24-yard field goal with 1:27 left. Bet you didn’t remember: Most seem to remember the snowball fired at Wersching coming at the end of the game. It happened late in the second quarter.

    Dan Reeves & the donkeys recieved a fifth down in a game with Cleveland. Refs shrug.
    ———
    Jan 06
    Brady was 20 of 36 for 341 yards — 22 of 36 if you count the two interceptions he threw, including one which Broncos coach Mike Shanahan called “the turning point of the game.” That would be Champ Bailey’s 100-yard pick-off return late in the third quarter on a third-down play from the Denver 5. What could have been a 13-10 New England lead suddenly became a 17-6 Broncos lead, courtesy of Bailey’s interception, followed moments later by Mike Anderson’s 1-yard scoring run.
    Champ had the ball knocked out of his hands before he crossed the endzone. The ball sailed forward out of the endzone meaning: If a team fumbles the ball into and out of the opponent’s end zone, it is ruled a touchback once it goes out of bounds. This means that the opponent (NE) will be awarded the ball at their own 20 yard line.
    Instead the refs inexplicably give the Broncos the ball on the five as if the ball travelled perpendicular to the goal line decieving your lying eyes several times with every replay.
    ———
    Who can forget the Donkey QB whiffing with the ball for a fumble with a Charger falling on it & the ref shrugs & calls incomplete pass?

  799. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And to be fair, critics call Obama the socialist, but his supporters credit him for making money on some of those moves when we bought stake in GMAC and Citi.

    But again, it was Paulsen and Bush in office when that happened. So again which way is it? Is Bush the socialist or is he the savior?

    I’m confused. Let’s all just agree that they all suck.

  800. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Presidential scholars rank Dubya among five worst presidents in U.S. history

    Excerpt:

    “Since 1982, the Siena Research Institute has polled presidential scholars on whom they view to be best and worst presidents in American history, based on a variety of issues from “integrity” to economic stewardship. This year’s poll of 238 scholars found that President Franklin Roosevelt was once again ranked on top, joined by Presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt to complete the top five. However, President George W. Bush did not fare well since the last poll was conducted in 2002. He dropped 16 places to 39th, making him the worst president since Warren Harding died in office in 1923, and one of the bottom five of all time, according to the experts.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/01/scholars-bush-worst-president/

  801. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oh and (so far) Obama is 15th, according to the 238 scholars.

  802. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    But again, it was Paulsen and Bush in office when that happened. So again which way is it? Is Bush the socialist or is he the savior?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Easy: It was Bush and Paulsen’s policies which predestined their bailout.

  803. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So Bush let his capitalism ways ruin the country, only to turn around with a socialist solution that you support.

    Roger.

  804. Dakota Says:

    Lol, I can’t believe that liberal scholars rank Bush low! How could that be?

    And it is pretty obvious from the poll numbers that the American people certainly do not hold Obama in the same regard as the liberal scholars.

  805. Seymour Bush Says:

    The economy is going to recess again. That became a foregone conclusion approximately 3 months ago. I have been predicting that for 14-16 months. That is not a indictment of the Obama stimulus plan, that is the REALITY of how INCREDIBLY the conservative policies of the last 8-10 years have ruined the economy.

    On another note, mistabrowntoiletpaper was saying California is 2-1 Dem to Rep and that is what caused California to basically go bankrupt. Actually, what the truth is, once again, because of conservative policies, there needs to be a 66% majority to raise taxes, so one third of the population continues to hold the 60+% hostage, causing huge budget deficits, unpaid obligations, higher interest costs and economic chaos. An amendment to change that is already on the November 2010 ballot.

    Also in a report today in CBS Marketwatch the Congressional Budget Office predicted debt would reach 87% of the US GDP by 2020 if the Bush tax cuts are extended.

    There. In just five short minutes, everything mistabrowntoiletpaper believes is refuted by indisputable fact.

  806. Dakota Says:

    Haven’t the Democrats controlled Congress for the past 4 years???

  807. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jared Veldheer and Bruce Campbell = the lemons of the great Raider 2010 draft

  808. inonewordraider Says:

    Lakers re-sign Fisher, sign Steven Blake for a discount, Sign and trade w/ the Knicks David Lee for Lamar Odom

  809. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Haven’t the Democrats controlled Congress for the past 4 years???
    ======================================================

    Yes. And it took a couple of years just to start undoing all the catastrophes the conservatives got us into.

  810. MistaBrown Says:

    Imagine 0ilbama’s poll numbers if the mainstream media actually reported what he and his left wing libtards were doing to this Country.

    15%-20%

  811. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    And to be fair, critics call Obama the socialist, but his supporters credit him for making money on some of those moves when we bought stake in GMAC and Citi.

    But again, it was Paulsen and Bush in office when that happened. So again which way is it? Is Bush the socialist or is he the savior?

    I’m confused. Let’s all just agree that they all suck.
    =============================================

    I certainly agree the all suck. If I remember correctly the Bush admin kept bailing out Citi and GMAC, but never took an equity stake, the new admin took an equity stake in Citigroup and GM, not the acceptance corp. But I am doing this from memory. I could easily be wrong.

  812. Seymour Bush Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Imagine 0ilbama’s poll numbers if the mainstream media actually reported what he and his left wing libtards were doing to this Country.

    15%-20%
    ====================================================

    That would STILL be higher than conservatives Bush/Cheney at the end of their run.

  813. Dakota Says:

    Oh, and did you know that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which deregulated the banking industry passed the House with 207 republicans voting Yea and 153 Dems voting Yea….and it was signed into law by Dem Bill Clinton…

    …yeah, it was all the Republicans fault right?

    lmao

  814. MistaBrown Says:

    You will never hear a Libtard like 0akglen/Seymour say we spend too much….No its those darn tax cuts that caused the debt.

    Dem congress has been spending and spending since 2006. GW let it happen under his watch and 0ilbama went above and beyond Bush 3x over with failed stimulus & bailouts.

    The end.

  815. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Here’s a chart of tax revenues received federally. It clearly shows growth from 2002-2007. Once the economy went to crap, revenues plummeted.

    It wasn’t taxes that caused the deficit problems, it was spending. And definately Bushs’ fault for spending too much, but quit blaming the tax cuts.

    http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/downchart_gr.php?year=2000_2014&view=1&expand=&units=b&fy=fy11&chart=F0-fed&bar=0&stack=1&size=l&title=&state=US&color=c&local=s

  816. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You are wrong Bush.

    Remember Barack scoffing at him being a socialist by saying, “I wasn’t the one who started buying stock in companies.”

    TARP, under the Bush admin, was supposed to buy toxic assets, but Hank the crook just bought stock, IMO, to prop up the prices for his buddies. No socialist agenda, even though it was a very socialisitic move, just trying one last time to throw his buddies a bone.

  817. MistaBrown Says:

    With the same Libtard media, yes!
    You poor lil derelict let me spell it out for you…

    A- Lib media hides Oilbamas radical agenda
    B- Lib media goes after Bush everyday for 8 years.

    The Lib media drives up 0bama’s sorry numbers. The Lib media drives down GW’s.

    Do you understand it yet or are you just too challenged?
    _________

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    # MistaBrown Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Imagine 0ilbama’s poll numbers if the mainstream media actually reported what he and his left wing libtards were doing to this Country.

    15%-20%
    ====================================================

    That would STILL be higher than conservatives Bush/Cheney at the end of their run.

  818. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bush,

    #816 is in regards to financial stocks. I know the GMAC bailouts were in Novemeber and December of 2008, but not as sure as to the specifics of said bailout.

  819. MistaBrown Says:

    Oakglen/Seygmour, you look just slightly less retarded backing Rob Ryan and JaMeatloaf Russell.

    Just sayin…

  820. Dakota Says:

    Our deficit problems would be much less right now had we not taken the terrorist hit in 2001 which subsequently lead to the war in Afg and Ir@q and shook our markets.

    The terrorists landed a heavy blow and Bush is not at fault for that, Clinton pussed out and didn’t kill Bin-laden when he had the chance, but Iraq is clearly on Bush.

  821. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Here’s a chart of tax revenues received federally. It clearly shows growth from 2002-2007. Once the economy went to crap, revenues plummeted.

    It wasn’t taxes that caused the deficit problems, it was spending. And definately Bushs’ fault for spending too much, but quit blaming the tax cuts.
    ===================================================

    Believe me, I understand the spending part of the equation. However, it was the growth of conservative spending programs i.e. HUGE defense outlays, in addition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, coupled with tax cuts disguised to help the uber rich, that gutted the economy. Again, this is indisputable.

  822. MistaBrown Says:

    “We are going to spend our way back to prosperity”

    Sincerely
    Libtard Economics

  823. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the American people certainly do not hold Obama in the same regard as the liberal scholars

    ***

    please don’t use President JaMarcus and “scholar” in the same sentence …

    thanks,

    Management

  824. MistaBrown Says:

    lol @ this is indisputable.

    When tax cuts gets administered across the board a libtard is there to claim ONLY the rich got a tax cut. And when Dems throw Billions away on social programs (which all fail) they point their finger, they point THERE finger(so fat kidd can understand) at Reps.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  825. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    President JaMarcus = racist term

  826. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    ***

    Brown: what part of save the trees and kill the babies don’t you understand ???

  827. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bush,

    How can you say “coupled with tax cuts”?

    It produced more tax money. This is a fact. Taking about the deficit, not the effects of trickle down on the economy.

    Bush’s tax cuts had nothing to do with our deficit. If anything, it prevented it from being worse.

  828. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    ***

    Brown: what part of save the trees and kill the babies don’t you understand ???
    +++++

    lmao

  829. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Our deficit problems would be much less right now had we not taken the terrorist hit in 2001 which subsequently lead to the war in Afg and Ir@q and shook our markets.

    The terrorists landed a heavy blow and Bush is not at fault for that, Clinton pussed out and didn’t kill Bin-laden when he had the chance, but Iraq is clearly on Bush.
    =========================================================

    I completely disagree with this. Deficits climbed HUGELY under Nixon, and particularly under Reagan, Bush I, and then again under the Bush/Cheney fiasco. It is part of the conservative formula to take tax revenues out of the uber wealthy and gut even the most BASIC social programs like roads and education. It’s been going on for half a century. All the terrorist attacks did was give them carte blanche to do what they were already going to do.

    That’s what I don’t understand about some of you that purportedly agree with these policies. Hey, sure, if you guys here were sitting on twenty, thirty, forty million dollars in gold bullion, then hey, you should support the conservatives policies. If you don’t have that kind of jack, you’re shooting yourselves economically, culturally, and societally.

  830. MistaBrown Says:

    Has anybody EVER heard a Dem say we are spending too much, we need to operate within our means? Nope..tax cuts are so evil, how dare we put money back into the hands of people that work lets give it to poor impoverished people that vote for Dems.

    hope & change

  831. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Bush,

    How can you say “coupled with tax cuts”?

    It produced more tax money. This is a fact. Taking about the deficit, not the effects of trickle down on the economy.

    Bush’s tax cuts had nothing to do with our deficit. If anything, it prevented it from being worse.
    ======================================================

    The economy produced more tax revenues, not the tax cuts.

  832. MistaBrown Says:

    JaMarcus Bobama is economically retarded.

    hope & change

  833. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JaMarcus Bobama

    ***

    Brown: 3 for 1 combo?

  834. Dakota Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    # Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Our deficit problems would be much less right now had we not taken the terrorist hit in 2001 which subsequently lead to the war in Afg and Ir@q and shook our markets.

    The terrorists landed a heavy blow and Bush is not at fault for that, Clinton pussed out and didn’t kill Bin-laden when he had the chance, but Iraq is clearly on Bush.
    =========================================================

    I completely disagree with this. Deficits climbed HUGELY under Nixon, and particularly under Reagan, Bush I, and then again under the Bush/Cheney fiasco. It is part of the conservative formula to take tax revenues out of the uber wealthy and gut even the most BASIC social programs like roads and education. It’s been going on for half a century. All the terrorist attacks did was give them carte blanche to do what they were already going to do.

    That’s what I don’t understand about some of you that purportedly agree with these policies. Hey, sure, if you guys here were sitting on twenty, thirty, forty million dollars in gold bullion, then hey, you should support the conservatives policies. If you don’t have that kind of jack, you’re shooting yourselves economically, culturally, and societally.

    ++++++++++

    So despite the fact that revenues went up under Bush, you don’t believe that the deficit would be much less right now had we not experienced the terrorist attack and the wars in Iraq and Afgn?

    Please explain, and please note that Nixon and Reagan are irrelevant to my point.

  835. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The economy produced more tax revenues, not the tax cuts.

    ************************

    So they worked.

    Got it.

  836. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Has anybody EVER heard a Dem say we are spending too much, we need to operate within our means?
    ===============================================

    hahaha. Once again, the misinformed yell the loudest. The last President to actually run a Federally balanced budget was a democrat with a democratic congress. The last one before that was a democrat with a democratic congress. You should check your facts.

  837. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You should check your facts.

    ***

    SeyGlenn: put down the vodka & OJ

    Rob Ryan would do a better job as President than Barack, agreed?

    obviously Holmgren & Belichick think so … are you smarter than them?

  838. Try Cheating Says:

    Government IS the problem not the solution. Politicians relaxed lending standards so the unqualified could buy homeS they could not afford.

  839. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    The economy produced more tax revenues, not the tax cuts.

    ************************

    So they worked.

    Got it.
    ===================================================

    Actually, they didn’t. The economy was in full boom for a variety of reasons, one of which was the paring down of the amount of defense expenditures on the Federal level, which was in direct conflict with the conservative policies. Small investors knew they could not make money investing in Ratheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed, so they put their money in this new thing called the “internet” which caused a general economic boom, which increased tax revenues on both state and Federal levels.

    Once the conservatives took over, they reversed this, cut tax rates (most highly for the rich) and engaged in costly wars with little or no public benefit. This in turn bloated the deficit, took a lot of money overseas, and cut investment smaller companies here. Gutting the economy and eventually causing a HUGE downturn in tax receipts.

  840. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Meanwwhile back to the Raiders:

    Nnamdi to be in studio with the little pip squeek, on Rome Is Burning @ BSPN. Bottom of the hour…

  841. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymours Bush \ Oakglenn

    LFMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  842. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    I hate Jim Rome.

  843. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, deficits climbed under Nixon? Ummm, you missed LBJ, and you always conviently ignore the failed economic policies of Carter with double digit unemployment, interests rates, and inflation. You have no credibility.

  844. Dakota Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
    MistaBrown Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Has anybody EVER heard a Dem say we are spending too much, we need to operate within our means?
    ===============================================

    hahaha. Once again, the misinformed yell the loudest. The last President to actually run a Federally balanced budget was a democrat with a democratic congress. The last one before that was a democrat with a democratic congress. You should check your facts.
    +++++++++++++

    Actually that is not true, the last President to have a true balanced budget was Republican Eisenhower:

    http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/

  845. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Rob Ryan would do a better job as President than Barack, agreed?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Idiocy

  846. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, by the way, you are a BOOB!

  847. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Rob Ryan should be President of Jack in the Box. All the Ryan’s are fat slobs.

  848. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Government IS the problem not the solution. Politicians relaxed lending standards so the unqualified could buy homeS they could not afford.
    ======================================================

    Huh?

    No. Actually what happened was Wall Street created an appetite for high yield securities, (bundled mortgages) that private lenders made and sold to private organizations. That was the problem. Government did nothing which was also a problem. But isn’t that what ALL you conservatives want? Government to do nothing? THAT IS THE CONSERVATIVE MANTRA! You conservatives should all be standing here APPLAUDING and telling the government to get OFF THE BACKS of BP!!

  849. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    Seymour, by the way, you are a BOOB!

    —————————

    LOL

  850. Just Fire Baby Says:

    From 93-95 it was a Dem Senate and Rep House.

    From 95-01 it was a Rep Senate and Rep House.

    Please, Seymour Bush, look it up first if your not 100%.

  851. Seymour Bush Says:

    Looks like ALL THE TROLLS HAVE ARRIVED! I was leaving any way.

  852. Dakota Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Meanwwhile back to the Raiders:

    Nnamdi to be in studio with the little pip squeek, on Rome Is Burning @ BSPN. Bottom of the hour…
    ++++++++++

    Nnamdi is spending way too much time on TV these days…if the Raiders’ offense is better this year and teams are forced to pass against us more often, I believe Nnamdi will be exposed a little this season.

  853. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Anyone know if those muscle stimulation belts work?

  854. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour is full of misleading statements. Liberals can’t handle the truth because it is inconsistent with their ideology! Make a liberal mad by telling him the truth!

  855. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    Looks like ALL THE TROLLS HAVE ARRIVED! I was leaving any way.

    =————————-

    But of course you were.

  856. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I was leaving any way

    ***

    SeyGlenn: you didn’t answer my question about your boy Slob Ryan!

  857. RaiderTW Says:

    Who’s to blame? Let’s let your “news” program explain:
    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/blame
    “Fox &Friends” deems it inappropriate for the Obama administration to mention Bush when talking about the wars, economy or oil spill.

  858. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    From 93-95 it was a Dem Senate and Rep House.

    From 95-01 it was a Rep Senate and Rep House.

    Please, Seymour Bush, look it up first if your not 100%.
    ++++++++++++

    Thanks for saving me the trouble of correcting him…again……

  859. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    From 93-95 it was a Dem Senate and Rep House.

    From 95-01 it was a Rep Senate and Rep House.

    Please, Seymour Bush, look it up first if your not 100%.
    =====================================================

    Dude, that is what I said. When Clinton took over in 92-93 and began balancing the budget he basically had a Democratic legislature. The republicans jumped on board after the fact. And that can be corborated by your 2000-2001 when the US Fed Budget went to hell in a hand basket under complete Republican control.

  860. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Government IS the problem not the solution. Politicians relaxed lending standards so the unqualified could buy homeS they could not afford.
    ======================================================

    Huh?

    No. Actually what happened was Wall Street created an appetite for high yield securities, (bundled mortgages) that private lenders made and sold to private organizations. That was the problem. Government did nothing which was also a problem. But isn’t that what ALL you conservatives want? Government to do nothing? THAT IS THE CONSERVATIVE MANTRA! You conservatives should all be standing here APPLAUDING and telling the government to get OFF THE BACKS of BP!!
    ____________________________

    Seymour that happened afterward when so many loans were in default. You are one flucking stupid bird!

  861. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    SeyGlenn tell your momma I said hi.

  862. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Always blame the buyer not the seller.

    AIG created these credit-default swaps, but nobody had to buy them.

    If you went to your butcher, and he told you about this new Cow-Kangaroo-Giraffe meat that looked weird, was very confusing how he explained it, and it was cheaper than chicken, would you buy it?

    Some home-buyers bought the Cow-Kangaroo-Giraffe meat. That’s on them, banks will always try to rip you off, every since banks were created. If you let them, again that’s on you.

  863. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    From 93-95 it was a Dem Senate and Rep House.

    From 95-01 it was a Rep Senate and Rep House.

    Please, Seymour Bush, look it up first if your not 100%.
    =====================================================

    Dude, that is what I said. When Clinton took over in 92-93 and began balancing the budget he basically had a Democratic legislature. The republicans jumped on board after the fact. And that can be corborated by your 2000-2001 when the US Fed Budget went to hell in a hand basket under complete Republican control.
    ___________________________

    This statement also requires correction. The Republican party over congress in 1994. They controlled the purse strings. Additionally, Clinton had an advantage; he had a peace dividend. He no longer had to pay for a cold war, ya dunce. You intentionally mislead, so I am forced to correct you.

  864. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi is spending way too much time on TV these days…if the Raiders’ offense is better this year and teams are forced to pass against us more often, I believe Nnamdi will be exposed a little this season.

    ***

    agreed. ask Tony Gonzalez or Miles Austin if N21 deserves 15-25 million per season!

  865. Seymour Bush Says:

    In 1992 and 1993 when Clinton took Office did he not have control of both houses? Better look again.

  866. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Thought you said you were leaving Seymour Busy \ Oakglenn

  867. Seymour Bush Says:

    Say troll and trolly, grown men are talking. why don’t you do what you do best and go clean the rest rooms.

  868. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Vegas,

    The problem was not the derivatives themselves, it was that the buyers and sellers did not hedge their risk well enough and there were no regulators to insist they do so. The hedged like the risk was minimal when in reality it was extreme. Root cause = deregulation.

    Also, the mortgages were sold off and packaged so the original lenders had NO INCENTIVE to make smart loans.

  869. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    You consider yourself a man Seymour Bush \ Oakglenn? Talk about delusional.

  870. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That was the lure to why Clinton was so successful, he was one of the first presidents to be a success while having to face a House and Senate of the other party.

    When BO’s super-majority goes away, he will just snivel, whine and cry about it and do nothing.

  871. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Thought you said you were leaving Seymour Busy \ Oakglenn
    =================================================

    Weren’t you making fun of someones spelling yesterday, while you don’t even know how to spell your OWN NAME? Kind of stupid of you don’t you think?

  872. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SeyGlenn: still waiting on your predictions for the Cleveland Browns this year lead by masterminds Holmgren & Ryan …

    run defense
    overall record
    presidential election vs. Prez Putz

    thanks in advance

  873. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Always blame the buyer not the seller.

    AIG created these credit-default swaps, but nobody had to buy them.

    If you went to your butcher, and he told you about this new Cow-Kangaroo-Giraffe meat that looked weird, was very confusing how he explained it, and it was cheaper than chicken, would you buy it?

    Some home-buyers bought the Cow-Kangaroo-Giraffe meat. That’s on them, banks will always try to rip you off, every since banks were created. If you let them, again that’s on you.
    ____________________

    Should have known better…this nation is full of retards, I mean look at all the fools that voted for Obama, a person with no resume whatsoever. A lot of buyer’s remorse over that decision right now.

  874. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    LOL, you moron, you know EXACTLY why I spell it this way, do I really need to remind you? YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SPELLED IT HIS WAY, do I need to prove it? ITs a slam on you , you moron.

  875. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He wasn’t even in office in 2002. His first day was in January of 2003.

  876. Seymour Bush Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    This statement also requires correction.
    ============================================

    Pal you couldn’t correct a black board if you had twenty erasers. Change your name to Try thinking, and maybe we can talk.

  877. Just Fire Baby Says:

    1992 not 2002…..slow down (deep breath).

    I am going to go take my hatred out on libs, on some Pinnacle’s.

  878. Try Cheating Says:

    Jackson, everyone was to blame for the collapse. The people who bought homes they could not afford; the lenders who received a percentage of each transaction; realtors, bankers, and politicians on both sides of the aisle. But Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are more responsible than most.

  879. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    SeyGlenn: still waiting on your predictions for the Cleveland Browns this year lead by masterminds Holmgren & Ryan …
    ============================================

    Ask mistabrOwn. He is the resident expert on the Cleveland Browns. By the way, you drunk on “shine” yet? Shoot it has to be done near past two in the afternoon where yer at! Yer probably done drunk off yer ass on that there “thinkin” juice”

  880. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawkings Says” duh, dhud abdhsjsm, djhdjd, erk, erk.”

  881. Try Cheating Says:

    Excuse me Seymour, your statements are regularly incorrect, and that is because you are either misinformed or intentioinally lying! I believe the latter.

  882. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
    Dr. Steven Hawkings Says” duh, dhud abdhsjsm, djhdjd, erk, erk.”

    ——————–

    OK Moron. Here, let me rimind you of how big of an idiot you are:

    Another reason Raiders need to be good
    By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
    Monday, May 24th, 2010 at 2:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

  883. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Lol, Seymour Bush \ Oakglenn….. your words, “Steven freaking Hawking”. LMFAO. You are such a tool.

  884. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

  885. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 7:39 am

    Geez RRS, do you know what parts of the cow goes in a hotdog?
    ===========================================

    Come on, lickin’ a hog anus ain’t nothin’ right there rockstar. You do it all the time right boy?

  886. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    Weren’t you making fun of someones spelling yesterday, while you don’t even know how to spell your OWN NAME? Kind of stupid of you don’t you think?

    —————————————-
    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

    LMFAO

  887. fat kidd Says:

    you lose your job cant pay your mortage your house is foreclosed on you have no where to live.sad sad sad sad. …………………..the bank dont want your 350,000 dollar house so they sell it 250,000 dollars and they get some of their money back. the rest is written of .bank happy happy happy………………….a rich republican lawyer buys your house for 250,000 dollars from bank and re-sells the house for 300,000 dollars making a profit of 50,000 dollars .happy happy happy ………………….he donates 10,000 to a politican .happy happy happy……………….so if the recession ended tomorrow the republicans ….sad sad sad . get it ,you are in a recession because that what they want!!!!!!!!

  888. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Hey Seymour Bush:

    Kond of stupid of you don’t you think?

    LOL

  889. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Excuse me Seymour, your statements are regularly incorrect, and that is because you are either misinformed or intentioinally lying! I believe the latter.
    ============================================

    Do you know how much anyone cares what you think? Let me tell you: not much. Now, why don’t you take your trolling self, and your little troll dog, and leave. We all know you are a troll. Bye.

  890. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    Vegas,

    The problem was not the derivatives themselves, it was that the buyers and sellers did not hedge their risk well enough and there were no regulators to insist they do so. The hedged like the risk was minimal when in reality it was extreme. Root cause = deregulation.
    _______________________

    Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act…is this the deregulation you are referring to? You mean the act that passed by the House with the approval of 153 Dems and was signed into law by Bill Clinton?

    But I am sure that you will still claim that deregulation was ALL the Republicans’ fault right Bo?

    LMAO…talk about ostriches…

  891. Try Cheating Says:

    Kidd, you are excluded from this conversation because you are ignorant. Go tell your mother how many taters you peeled each day in “veitnam.”

  892. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking. a

  893. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ok..a good joke to lighten the mood.

    I was a very happy man. My wonderful girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year so we decided to get married. There was only one little thing bothering me..it was her beautiful younger sister. She was 22, wore very tight skirts, and generally went bra-less. One day her little sister called and asked me to come over to look at wedding invitations. She was alone when I arrived and she whispered to me that she had feelings and desires for me that she couldn’t overcome. She told me she wanted me just once before I got married and commited my like to her sister. She asked me to meet her upstairs for one last fling. I was stunned watching her walk up the stairs. I made a beeline straight to the front door and headed straight to my car!! Low and behold all my fiance’s family were outside, clapping, proud that I had passed their test.

    The moral of the story…Always keep your condoms in the car!!!

  894. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    Kidd, you are excluded from this conversation because you are ignorant. Go tell your mother how many taters you peeled each day in “veitnam.”

    ……………….sorry you accidentaly got on a raiders web site try searching glen beck and you will get to the right chat room

  895. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Did that sting a bit Seymour Douche?

  896. Try Cheating Says:

    Did anyone else notice that liberals on this board are ignorant on all subjects, and everything they write is refuted. Liberalism is the ideology of lies.

  897. fat kidd Says:

    try cheating has to be a republican because that is a republican talking point ,cheating corruption lying all equal capitalism too a republican if you try and stop them from cheating and stealing they cry out socialism.

  898. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ask mistabrOwn. He is the resident expert on the Cleveland Browns.

    ***

    SeyGlenn: Brown wasn’t the one talking up Holmgren & Ryan the past week or two

    come on, be a man. put up some predictions

    quit trying to change the topic to my Podunk livin’

  899. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    A lot of buyer’s remorse over that decision right now.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Fat chance. All the Repubs were offering was Geezer and Bimbo. They would still lose that election. Easily.

  900. Seymour Bush Says:

    Say Hawking you’re just a little lap dog aren’t you? For an internet troll! How does that feel? I didn’t think there was anything lower than the internet troll, but then along comes hawking the idiot, the lap dog of the internet troll! hahahahaha

  901. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    SeyGlenn: Brown wasn’t the one talking up Holmgren & Ryan the past week or two

    come on, be a man. put up some predictions

    quit trying to change the topic to my Podunk livin’

    ———————

    He won’t, he can’t. When Seymour Douche gets called out he runs and hides… He isn’t a man, not even close.

  902. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    if you try and stop them from cheating and stealing they cry out socialism.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Conservatism in a nutshell. Just add fake compassion for fetuses (but not living people).

  903. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Phil Jackson to return as Lakers coach. Statement from the Lakers front office, via local sports talk radio..

  904. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    Ask mistabrOwn. He is the resident expert on the Cleveland Browns.

    ***

    ……………….the only thing mistanbrown is expert on is having his head stuck in a anal cavity..

  905. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Douche:

    At Least I know who the fk STEPHEN Hawking is, you moron.

    ———————————-

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

  906. Seymour Bush Says:

    I don’t predict things moron. Nor do I care about the Browns. But put down the moonshine and sober up a bit. I know that is all you got there in Podunk. Along with screwing the pigs out yonder.

  907. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    A lot of buyer’s remorse over that decision right now.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Fat chance. All the Repubs were offering was Geezer and Bimbo. They would still lose that election. Easily.
    +++++++++

    That “Geezer” has more ability in one of his jacked up arms than Obama has in his entire body.

  908. Dakota Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    Phil Jackson to return as Lakers coach. Statement from the Lakers front office, via local sports talk radio..
    ++++++++

    YEAH BABY!

  909. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Seymour Douche:

    At Least I know who the fk STEPHEN Hawking is, you moron.
    ==========================================

    No you didn’t you lap dog. You probably would fit in Paris Hiltons little purse wouldn’t you turd?

  910. Try Cheating Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    if you try and stop them from cheating and stealing they cry out socialism.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Conservatism in a nutshell. Just add fake compassion for fetuses (but not living people).
    ____________________

    Living people have free choice; a fetus does not! Get it?

  911. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    LOL

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

  912. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    But I am sure that you will still claim that deregulation was ALL the Republicans’ fault right Bo?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Nope, Greenspan had a lot of Dems fooled too. Blue Dog = Cowardly Punk

  913. fat kidd Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    if you try and stop them from cheating and stealing they cry out socialism.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Conservatism in a nutshell. Just add fake compassion for fetuses (but not living people).

    exactly correct when a republican is trying to get elected they are against abortion.when they get in office they couldnt give a rats ass.

  914. Dakota Says:

    Bo, you are right about the Bimbo though….damn she needs to GO AWAY!!!

  915. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Douche = Blog moron and whipping boy. He loves it to.

  916. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    And ostrich was referring to your FOOTBALL dreamlife. You know, the one where Cable forced DMAC to fumble 3x as often as the rest of the RBs?

  917. Try Cheating Says:

    Fat Kidd, I support abortion. I wish you had been aborted. You were partially aborted however, the doctor got your brain.

  918. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    Bo, you are right about the Bimbo though….damn she needs to GO AWAY!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. Repubs need to stop villifying their centrists. They’ll never beat the Dems by championing quitter idiots like her. Talk about a weak resume!

  919. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Obesitiy is also the fault of politics and politicians. Just ask Seymour Douche, he is a fatty.

  920. Try Cheating Says:

    Kidd, tell us about “veitnam.”

  921. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    Fat Kidd, I support abortion. I wish you had been aborted. You were partially aborted however, the doctor got your brain.

    ………………………….i am glad you are a live ,i cherish life even a loser like you.

  922. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Douche mix in a salad every now and then and hit the treadmill, Fatty.

  923. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    Dakota Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    Bo, you are right about the Bimbo though….damn she needs to GO AWAY!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. Repubs need to stop villifying their centrists. They’ll never beat the Dems by championing quitter idiots like her. Talk about a weak resume!

    ______________

    If she wins the nomination for 2012 I will renounce the Republican Party and move to Communist Cuba.

  924. Try Cheating Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    Fat Kidd, I support abortion. I wish you had been aborted. You were partially aborted however, the doctor got your brain.

    ………………………….i am glad you are a live ,i cherish life even a loser like you.
    _____________________________

    Kidd, what in God’s name are you trying to say?

  925. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Government IS the problem not the solution. Politicians relaxed lending standards so the unqualified could buy homeS they could not afford.
    ==================================================

    Then we have THIS IDIOT. Hate to tell ya, but governemtn does not SET lending standards, private organizations do. This is the STUPIDEST POST EVER!

  926. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    fat kidd Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    Fat Kidd, I support abortion. I wish you had been aborted. You were partially aborted however, the doctor got your brain.

    ………………………….i am glad you are a live ,i cherish life even a loser like you.
    _____________________________

    Kidd, what in God’s name are you trying to say?

    …………i am a democrat and i am more pro life than you

  927. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, post 925 proves you are the dumbest creature to walk this earth.

  928. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    This is the STUPIDEST POST EVER!

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

    —————————–

    Agreed,that was the stupidest post ever, fat azz.

  929. Try Cheating Says:

    Kidd, you are also an idiot…what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

  930. Seymour Bush Says:

    No Wait this one is EVEN STUPIDER!! Hey Try Cheating put down your Lap Dog, and go find some of Raider Rockstar’s “thinking juice”. You NEED IT!

    No. Actually what happened was Wall Street created an appetite for high yield securities, (bundled mortgages) that private lenders made and sold to private organizations. That was the problem. Government did nothing which was also a problem. But isn’t that what ALL you conservatives want? Government to do nothing? THAT IS THE CONSERVATIVE MANTRA! You conservatives should all be standing here APPLAUDING and telling the government to get OFF THE BACKS of BP!!
    ____________________________

    Seymour that happened afterward when so many loans were in default. You are one flucking stupid bird!
    ====================================

    So the huge appetite for these instruments came AFTER they went into default? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

  931. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t predict things moron. Nor do I care about the Browns.

    ***

    bwahahahahaha!

    you basically acted like Holmgren & Ryan were gonna lead the Brownies to the Super Bowl all week and I ask for an actual prediction and you call me a moron?

    don’t get mad when somebody calls you on your bs

  932. Seymour Bush Says:

    Are you trying to say the governement sets lending standards Try Cheating? You know, I have this bridge that I can sell ya reeeaaalll cheap.

  933. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SeyGlenn: show a little backbone and either admit you were wrong about Rob Ryan or make a prediction for his run defense this upcoming season …

  934. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:11 pm
    Kidd, you are also an idiot…what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    ………………………………i dont worry about tea like you teabaggers.

  935. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    If she wins the nomination for 2012 I will renounce the Republican Party and move to Communist Cuba.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    God Bless Cuba! LOL

  936. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, you are the dumbest creature to walk this earth. You are an emotional wreck. Seek help.

  937. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    I don’t predict things moron. Nor do I care about the Browns.

    ***

    bwahahahahaha!

    you basically acted like Holmgren & Ryan were gonna lead the Brownies to the Super Bowl all week and I ask for an actual prediction and you call me a moron?

    don’t get mad when somebody calls you on your bs
    ===================================================

    I can tell reading ain’t your thing Rockstar. That I can tell. What I said for the trillionth time is Belichik, and Holmgren employed or are employing Ryan. You seem to have a problem with that. If you do, you must know more than they do. With all due respects, when it comes to the NFL, I’ll listen to them. When it comes to mucking out a stall, I’ll call you. How’s that?

  938. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Seymour, you are the dumbest creature to walk this earth. You are an emotional wreck. Seek help.
    ==========================================

    Try Cheating you are the one name calling and melting down. Why don’t you tell us where these government lending standards are? Or better yet, admit you’re a moron and come back later.

  939. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    GO PHIL JACKSON! Red Auerbach, how’s Phil’s Azz Taste!?!?!?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  940. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, you are incapable of deductive reasoning. Your brain takes information and scrambles it into alphabet soup. You are helpless

  941. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What I said for the trillionth time is Belichik, and Holmgren employed or are employing Ryan. You seem to have a problem with that. If you do, you must know more than they do. With all due respects, when it comes to the NFL, I’ll listen to them.

    ***

    SeyGlenn: quit trying to talk your way out of this. you talked up Holmgren & Ryan.

    Give out some predictions. I’ll wait

    by the way, check all that personal crap at the door

    thanks

  942. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, what point are you trying to make?

  943. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    In 19 seasons as an NBA coach, Jackson has a record of 1,098-460, good for a .705 winning percentage that is the best in league history.

    Anyone know Don Nelson’s (ex-Meltic) record by the way?

  944. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    chirp chirp

  945. Seymour Bush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Give out some predictions. I’ll wait
    ================================================

    Why do you need predictions? What does that prove? Tell me

  946. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why do you need predictions? What does that prove?

    ***

    I just think if you’re gonna talk up a player, coach or team you should be able to put some expectations up to show what YOU THINK they are capable of

    if Holmgren is a great VP and Ryan is a great DC, you should have no fear making a simple projection like this

  947. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, here is some info on Federal Lending rules:

    FDIC Law, Regulations, Related Acts

    ——————————————————————————–

    [Table of Contents] [Previous Page] [Next Page] [Search]

    6500 – Consumer Protection

    PART 226—TRUTH IN LENDING (REGULATION Z)

    Subpart A—General

    Sec.

    226.1 Authority, purpose, coverage, organization, enforcement and liability.
    226.2 Definitions and rules of construction.
    226.3 Exempt transactions.
    226.4 Finance charge.

    Subpart B—Open-End Credit

    226.5 General disclosure requirements.
    226.5a Credit and charge card applications and solicitations.
    226.5b Requirements for home equity plans.
    226.6 Initial disclosure statement.
    226.7 Periodic statement.
    226.8 Identification of transactions.
    226.9 Subsequent disclosure requirements.
    226.10 Prompt crediting of payments.
    226.11 Treatment of credit balances.
    226.12 Special credit card provisions.
    226.13 Billing error resolution.
    226.14 Determination of annual percentage rate.
    226.15 Right of rescission.
    226.16 Advertising.

    Subpart C—Closed-End Credit

    226.17 General disclosure requirements.
    226.18 Content of disclosures.
    226.19 Certain residential mortgage and variable-rate transactions.
    226.20 Subsequent disclosure requirements.
    226.21 Treatment of credit balances.
    226.22 Determination of annual percentage rate.
    226.23 Right of rescission.
    226.24 Advertising.

    Subpart D—Miscellaneous

    226.25 Record retention.
    226.26 Use of annual percentage rate in oral disclosures.
    226.27 Spanish language disclosures.
    226.28 Effect on state laws.
    226.29 State exemptions.
    226.30 Limitation on rates.

    Subpart E—Special Rules for Certain Home Mortgage Transactions

    226.31 General rules.
    226.32 Requirements for certain closed-end home mortgages.
    226.33 Requirements for reverse mortgages.
    226.34 Prohibited acts or practices in connection with credit secured by a consumer’s dwelling.
    226.35 Prohibited acts or practices in connection with higher-priced mortgage loans
    226.36 Prohibited acts or practices in connection with credit secured by a consumer’s principal dwelling.

    Subpart F—Subpart F—Special Rules for Private Education Loans

    226.46 Special disclosure requirements for private education loans.
    226.47 Content of disclosures.
    226.48 Limitations on private education loans.

    Subpart F—Subpart G—Special Rules Applicable to Credit Card Accounts and Open-End Credit Offered to College Students

    §226.51 Ability to Pay.
    §226.52 Limitations on fees.
    §226.53 Allocation of payments.
    §226.54 Limitations on the imposition of finance charges.
    §226.55 Limitations on increasing annual percentage rates, fees, and charges.
    §226.56 Requirements for over-the-limit transactions.
    §226.57 Reporting and marketing rules for college student open-end credit.
    §226.58 Internet posting of credit card agreements.

    Appendix A—Effect on state laws.
    Appendix B—State exemptions.
    Appendix C—Issuance of staff interpretations.
    Appendix D—Multiple advance construction loans.
    Appendix E—Rules for card issuers that bill on a transaction-by-transaction basis.
    Appendix F—Annual percentage rate computations for certain open-end credit plans.
    Appendix G—Open-end model forms and clauses.
    Appendix H—Closed-end model forms and clauses.
    Appendix I—Federal enforcement agencies.
    Appendix J—Annual percentage rate computations for closed-end credit transactions.
    Appendix K—Total annual loan cost rate computations for reverse mortgage transactions.
    Appendix L—Assumed loan periods for computations of total annual loan cost rates.

    AUTHORITY: 12 U.S.C. 3806; 15 U.S.C. 1604 and 1637(c)(5) and 1639(1).

    SOURCE: The provisions of this Part 226 appear at 46 Fed. Reg. 20892, April 7, 1981, effective October 1, 1982, and 58 Fed. Reg. 50512, September 28, 1993, except as otherwise provided.

    Subpart A—General

    § 226.1 Authority, purpose, coverage, organization, enforcement and liability.

    (a) Authority. This regulation, known as Regulation Z, is issued by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to implement the federal Truth in Lending Act, which is contained in title I of the Consumer Credit Protection Act, as amended (15 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.). This regulation also implements title XII, section 1204 of the Competitive Equality Banking Act of 1987 (Pub. L. 100–86, 101 Stat. 552). Information-collection requirements contained in this regulation have been approved by the Office of Management and Budget under the provisions of 44 U.S.C. 3501 et seq. and have been assigned OMB No. 7100–0199.

    (b) Purpose. The purpose of this regulation is to promote the informed use of consumer credit by requiring disclosures about its terms and cost. The regulation also gives consumers the right to cancel certain credit transactions that involve a lien on a consumer’s principal dwelling, regulates certain credit card practices, and provides a means for fair and timely resolution of credit billing disputes. The regulation does not govern charges for consumer credit. The regulation requires a maximum interest rate to be stated in variable-rate contracts secured by the consumer’s dwelling. It also imposes limitations on home-equity plans that are subject to the requirements of § 226.5b and mortgages that are subject to the requirements of § 226.32. The regulation prohibits certain acts or practices in connection with credit secured by a consumer’s principal dwelling. The regulation also regulates certain practices of creditors who extend private education loans as defined in § 226.46(b)(5).

    (c) Coverage. (1) In general, this regulation applies to each individual or business that offers or extends credit when four conditions are met: (i) the credit is offered or extended to consumers; (ii) the offering or extension of credit is done regularly;1 (iii) the credit is subject to a finance charge or is payable by a written agreement in more than 4 installments; and (iv) the credit is primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.

    (2) If a credit card is involved, however, certain provisions apply even if the credit is not subject to a finance charge, or is not payable by a written agreement in more than 4 installments, or if the credit card is to be used for business purposes.

    (3) In addition, certain requirements of § 226.5b apply to persons who are not creditors but who provide applications for home equity plans to consumers.

    (d) Organization. The regulation is divided into subparts and appendices as follows:

    (1) Subpart A contains general information. It sets forth: (i) the authority, purpose, coverage, and organization of the regulation; (ii) the definitions of basic terms; (iii) the transactions that are exempt from coverage; and (iv) the method of determining the finance charge.

    (2) Subpart B contains the rules for open-end credit. It requires that initial disclosures and periodic statements be provided, as well as additional disclosures for credit and charge card applications and solicitations and for home equity plans subject to the requirements of §§ 226.5a and 226.5b, respectively. It also describes special rules that apply to credit card transactions, treatment of payments and credit balances, procedures for resolving credit billing errors, annual percentage rate calculations, rescission requirements, and advertising rules.

    (3) Subpart C relates to closed-end credit. It contains rules on disclosures, treatment of credit balances, annual percentage rate calculations, rescission requirements, and advertising.

    (4) Subpart D contains rules on oral disclosures, Spanish language disclosure in Puerto Rico, record retention, effect on state laws, state exemptions, and rate limitations.

    (5) Subpart E contains special rules for mortgage transactions. Section 226.32 requires certain disclosures and provides limitations for loans that have rates and fees above specified amounts. Section 226.33 requires disclosures, including the total annual loan cost rate, for reverse mortgage transactions. Section 226.34 prohibits specific acts and practices in connection with mortgage transactions that are subject to § 226.32. Section 226.35 prohibits specific acts and practices in connection with higher-priced mortgage loans, as defined in § 226.35(a). Section 226.36 prohibits specific acts and practices in connection with credit secured by consumer’s principal dwelling.

    (6) Subpart F relates to private education loans. It contains rules on disclosures, limitations on changes in terms after approval, the right to cancel the loan, and limitations on co-branding in the marketing of private education loans.

    (7) Several appendices contain information such as the procedures for determinations about state laws, state exemptions and issuance of staff interpretations, special rules for certain kinds of credit plans, a list of enforcement agencies, and the rules for computing annual percentage rates in closed-end credit transactions and total annual loan cost rates for reverse mortgage transactions.

    (e) Enforcement and liability. Section 108 of the act contains the administrative enforcement provisions. Sections 112, 113, 130, 131, and 134 contain provisions relating to liability for failure to comply with the requirements of the act and the regulation. Section 1204(c) of Title XII of the Competitive Equality Banking Act of 1987, Pub. L. No. 100–86, 101 Stat. 552, incorporates by reference administrative enforcement and civil liability provisions of sections 108 and 130 of the act.

    [Codified to 12 C.F.R. § 226.1]

    [Section 226.1 amended at 49 Fed. Reg. 46991, November 30, 1984, effective December 31, 1984; 52 Fed. Reg. 43181, November 9, 1987, effective December 9, 1987; 54 Fed. Reg. 13865, April 6, 1989, effective April 3, 1989, but compliance is optional until August 31, 1989; 54 Fed. Reg. 24686, June 9, 1989, effective June 7, 1989, but compliance is optional until November 7, 1989; 60 Fed. Reg. 15471, March 24, 1995, effective March 22, 1995, compliance is optional until October 1, 1995; 66 Fed. Reg. 65617, December 20, 2001, effective December 20, 2001, but compliance is mandatory as of October 1, 2002; 73 Fed. Reg 44599, July 30, 2008, effective October 1, 2009; 74 Fed. Reg. 41231 August 14, 2009, effective September 14, 2009, compliance date February 14, 2010]
    § 226.2 Definitions and rules of construction.

    (a) Definitions. For purposes of this regulation, the following definitions apply:

    (1) Act means the Truth in Lending Act (15 U.S.C. 1601 et seq. ).

    (2) Advertisement means a commercial message in any medium that promotes, directly or indirectly, a credit transaction.

    (3) [Reserved]2
    (4) Billing cycle or cycle means the interval between the days or dates of regular periodic statements. These intervals shall be equal and no longer than a quarter of a year. An interval will be considered equal if the number of days in the cycle does not vary more than four days from the regular day or date of the periodic statement.

    (5) Board means the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.

    (6) “Business day” means a day on which the creditor’s offices are open to the public for carrying on substantially all of its business functions. However, for purposes of rescission under §§ 226.15 and 226.23, and for purposes of § 226.19(a)(1)(ii), § 226.19(a)(2), and § 226.31, and § 226.46(d)(4), the term means all calendar days except Sundays and the legal public holidays specified in 5 U.S.C. 6103(a), such as New Year’s Day, the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr., Washington’s Birthday, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day.

    (7) Card issuer means a person that issues a credit card or that person’s agent with respect to the card.

    (8) Cardholder means a natural person to whom a credit card is issued for consumer credit purposes, or a natural person who has agreed with the card issuer to pay consumer credit obligations arising from the issuance of a credit card to another natural person. For purposes of § 226.12(a) and (b), the term includes any person to whom a credit card is issued for any purpose, including business, commercial, or agricultural use, or a person who has agreed with the card issuer to pay obligations arising from the issuance of such a credit card to another person.

    (9) Cash price means the price at which a creditor, in the ordinary course of business, offers to sell for cash the property or service that is the subject of the transaction. At the creditor’s option, the term may include the price of accessories, services related to the sale, service contracts and taxes and fees for license, title, and registration. The term does not include any finance charge.

    (10) Closed-end credit means consumer credit other than “open-end credit” as defined in this section.

    (11) Consumer means a cardholder or a natural person to whom consumer credit is offered or extended. However, for purposes of rescission under §§ 226.15 and 226.23, the term also includes a natural person in whose principal dwelling a security interest is or will be retained or acquired, if that person’s ownership interest in the dwelling is or will be subject to the security interest.

    (12) Consumer credit means credit offered or extended to a consumer primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.

    (13) Consummation means the time that a consumer becomes contractually obligated on a credit transaction.

    (14) Credit means the right to defer payment of debt or to incur debt and defer its payment.

    (15) Credit card means any card, plate, coupon book, or other single credit device that may be used from time to time to obtain credit. “Charge card” means a credit card on an account for which no periodic rate is used to compute a finance charge.

    (16) Credit sale means a sale in which the seller is a creditor. The term includes a bailment or lease (unless terminable without penalty at any time by the consumer) under which the consumer:

    (i) Agrees to pay as compensation for use a sum substantially equivalent to, or in excess of, the total value of the property and services involved; and

    (ii) Will become (or has the option to become), for no additional consideration or for nominal consideration, the owner of the property upon compliance with the agreement.

    (17) Creditor means:

    (i) A person (A) who regularly extends consumer credit3 that is subject to a finance charge or is payable by written agreement in more than four installments (not including a downpayment), and (B) to whom the obligation is initially payable, either on the face of the note or contract, or by agreement when there is no note or contract.

    (ii) For purposes of §§ 226.4(c)(8) (discounts), 226.9(d) (Finance charge imposed at time of transaction), and 226.12(e) (Prompt notification of returns and crediting of refunds), a person that honors a credit card.

    (iii) For purposes of subpart B, any card issuer that extends either open-end credit or credit that is not subject to a finance charge and is not payable by written agreement in more than four installments.

    (iv) For purposes of subpart B (except for the credit and charge card disclosures contained in §§ 226.5a and 226.9(e) and (f), the finance charge disclosures contained in §§ 226.6(a) and 226.7(d) through (g) and the right of rescission set forth in § 226.15) and subpart C, any card issuer that extends closed-end credit that is subject to a finance charge or is payable by written agreement in more than four installments.

    (18) Downpayment means an amount, including the value of any property used as a trade-in, paid to a seller to reduce the cash price of goods or services purchased in a credit sale transaction. A deferred portion of a downpayment may be treated as part of the downpayment if it is payable not later than the due date of the second otherwise regularly scheduled payment and is not subject to a finance charge.

    (19) Dwelling means a residential structure that contains one to four units, whether or not that structure is attached to real property. The term includes an individual condominium unit, cooperative unit, mobile home, and trailer, if it is used as a residence.

    (20) Open-end credit means consumer credit extended by a creditor under a plan in which:

    (i) The creditor reasonably contemplates repeated transactions;

    (ii) The creditor may impose a finance charge from time to time on an outstanding unpaid balance; and

    (iii) The amount of credit that may be extended to the consumer during the term of the plan (up to any limit set by the creditor) is generally made available to the extent that any outstanding balance is repaid.

    (21) Periodic rate means a rate of finance charge that is or may be imposed by a creditor on a balance for a day, week, month, or other subdivision of a year.

    (22) Person means a natural person or an organization, including a corporation, partnership, proprietorship, association, cooperative, estate, trust, or government unit.

    (23) Prepaid finance charge means any finance charge paid separately in cash or by check before or at consummation of a transaction, or withheld from the proceeds of the credit at any time.

    (24) Residential mortgage transaction means a transaction in which a mortgage, deed of trust, purchase money security interest arising under an installment sales contract, or equivalent consensual security interest is created or retained in the consumer’s principal dwelling to finance the acquisition or initial construction of that dwelling.

    (25) Security interest means an interest in property that secures performance of a consumer credit obligation and that is recognized by state or federal law. It does not include incidental interests such as interests in proceeds, accessions, additions, fixtures, insurance proceeds (whether or not the creditor is a loss payee or beneficiary), premium rebates, or interests in after-acquired property. For purposes of disclosure under §§ 226.6 and 226.18, the term does not include an interest that arises solely by operation of law. However, for purposes of the right of rescission under §§ 226.15 and 226.23, the term does include interests that arise solely by operation of law.

    (26) State means any state, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States.

    (b) Rules of construction. For purposes of this regulation, the following rules of construction apply:

    (1) Where appropriate, the singular form of a word includes the plural form and plural includes singular.

    (2) Where the words “obligation” and “transaction” are used in this regulation, they refer to a consumer credit obligation or transaction, depending upon the context. Where the word “credit” is used in this regulation, it means “consumer credit” unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

    (3) Unless defined in this regulation, the words used have the meanings given to them by state law or contract.

    (4) Footnotes have the same legal effect as the text of the regulation.

    (5) Where the word “amount” is used in this regulation to describe disclosure requirements, it refers to a numerical amount.

    [Codified to 12 C.F.R. § 226.2]

    [Section 226.2 amended at 46 Fed. Reg. 29246, June 1, 1981; 47 Fed. Reg. 7392, February 19, 1982; 48 Fed. Reg. 14886, April 6, 1983, effective October 1, 1982; 54 Fed. Reg. 13865, April 6, 1989, effective April 3, 1989, but compliance is optional until August 31, 1989; 60 Fed. Reg. 15471, March 24, 1995, effective March 22, 1995, compliance is optional until October 1, 1995; 61 Fed. Reg. 49245, September 19, 1996, effective October 21, 1996; 69 Fed. Reg. 16773, March 31, 2004; 73 Fed Reg. 44599, July 30, 2008, effective October 1, 2009; 74 Fed. Reg. 23300, May 19, 2009, effective, July 30, 2009, the amendments to §§ 226.2(a)(6), 226.17(b) and (f), and 226.19(a)(1); and amendments 13, 14, 16, and 17 to Supplement I to part 226, published on July 30, 2008 (73 FR 44522), previously to become effective on October 1, 2009, are now effective July 30, 2009; 74 Fed. Reg. 41232, August 14, 2009, effective September 14, 2009, compliance date September 14, 2010]
    § 226.3 Exempt transactions.

    This regulation does not apply to the following:

    (a) Business, commercial, agricultural, or organizational credit.4 (1) An extension of credit primarily for a business, commercial or agricultural purpose.

    (2) An extension of credit to other than a natural person, including credit to government agencies or instrumentalities.

    (b) Credit over $25,000. An extension of credit in which the amount financed exceeds $25,000 or in which there is an express written commitment to extend credit in excess of $25,000, unless the extension of credit is:

    (1) Secured by real property, or by personal property used or expected to be used as the principal dwelling of the consumer; or

    (2) A private education loan as defined in § 226.46(b)(5).

    (c) Public utility credit. An extension of credit that involves public utility services provided through pipe, wire, other connected facilities, or radio or similar transmission (including extensions of such facilities), if the charges for service, delayed payment, or any discounts for prompt payment are filed with or regulated by any government unit. The financing of durable goods or home improvements by a public utility is not exempt.

    (d) Securities or commodities accounts. Transactions in securities or commodities accounts in which credit is extended by a broker-dealer registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission or the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

    (e) Home fuel budget plans. An installment agreement for the purchase of home fuels in which no finance charge is imposed.

    (f) Student loan programs. Loans made, insured, or guaranteed pursuant to a program authorized by title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1070 et seq.).

    [Codified to 12 C.F.R. § 226.3]

    [Section 226.3 amended at 48 Fed. Reg. 14886, April 6, 1983, effective October 1, 1982; 74 Fed. Reg. 41232, August 14, 2009, effective September 14, 2009, compliance date September 14, 2010]
    § 226.4 Finance charge.

    (a) Definition. The finance charge is the cost of consumer credit as a dollar amount. It includes any charge payable directly or indirectly by the consumer and imposed directly or indirectly by the creditor as an incident to or a condition of the extension of credit. It does not include any charge of a type payable in a comparable cash transaction.

    (1) Charges by third parties. The finance charge includes fees and amounts charged by someone other than the creditor, unless otherwise excluded under this section, if the creditor:

    (i) requires the use of a third party as a condition of or an incident to the extension of credit, even if the consumer can choose the third party; or

    (ii) retains a portion of the third-party charge, to the extent of the portion retained.

    (2) Special rule; closing agent charges. Fees charged by a third party that conducts the loan closing (such as a settlement agent, attorney, or escrow or title company) are finance charges only if the creditor:

    (i) Requires the particular services for which the consumer is charged;

    (ii) Requires the imposition of the charge; or

    (iii) Retains a portion of the third-party charge, to the extent of the portion retained.
    (3) Special rule; mortgage broker fees. Fees charged by a mortgage broker (including fees paid by the consumer directly to the broker or to the creditor for delivery to the broker) are finance charges even if the creditor does not require the consumer to use a mortgage broker and even if the creditor does not retain any portion of the charge.

    (b) Example of finance charge. The finance charge includes the following types of charges, except for charges specifically excluded by paragraphs (c) through (e) of this section:
    (1) Interest, time price differential, and any amount payable under an add-on or discount system of additional charges.

    (2) Service, transaction, activity, and carrying charges, including any charge imposed on a checking or other transaction account to the extent that the charge exceeds the charge for a similar account without a credit feature.

    (3) Points, loan fees, assumption fees, finder’s fees, and similar charges.

    (4) Appraisal, investigation, and credit report fees.

    (5) Premiums or other charges for any guarantee or insurance protecting the creditor against the consumer’s default or other credit loss.

    (6) Charges imposed on a creditor by another person for purchasing or accepting a consumer’s obligation, if the consumer is required to pay the charges in cash, as an addition to the obligation, or as a deduction from the proceeds of the obligation.

    (7) Premiums or other charges for credit life, accident, health, or loss-of-income insurance, written in connection with a credit transaction.

    (8) Premiums or other charges for insurance against loss of or damage to property, or against liability arising out of the ownership or use of property, written in connection with a credit transaction.

    (9) Discounts for the purpose of inducing payment by a means other than the use of credit.

    (10) Debt cancellation fees. Charges or premiums paid for debt cancellation coverage written in connection with a credit transaction, whether or not the debt cancellation coverage is insurance under applicable law.

    (c) Charges excluded from the finance charge. The following charges are not finance charges:

    (1) Application fees charged to all applicants for credit, whether or not credit is actually extended.

    (2) Charges for actual unanticipated late payment, for exceeding a credit limit or for delinquency, default, or a similar occurrence.

    (3) Charges imposed by a financial institution for paying items that overdraw an account, unless the payment of such items and the imposition of the charge were previously agreed upon in writing.

    (4) Fees charged for participation in a credit plan, whether assessed on an annual or other periodic basis.

    (5) Seller’s points.

    (6) Interest forfeited as a result of an interest reduction required by law on a time deposit used as security for an extension of credit.

    (7) Real-estate related fees. The following fees in a transaction secured by real property or in a residential mortgage transaction, if the fees are bona fide and reasonable in amount:

    (i) Fees for title examination, abstract of title, title insurance, property survey, and similar purposes.

    (ii) Fees for preparing loan-related documents, such as deeds, mortgages, and reconveyance or settlement documents.

    (iii) Notary, and credit report fees.

    (iv) Property appraisal fees or fees for inspections to assess the value or condition of the property if the service is performed prior to closing, including fees related to pest infestation or flood hazard determinations.

    (v) Amounts required to be paid into escrow or trustee accounts if the amounts would not otherwise be included in the finance charge.

    (8) Discounts offered to induce payment for a purchase by cash, check, or other means, as provided in § 167(b) of the act.

    (d) Insurance and debt cancellation coverage. (1) Voluntary credit. Premiums for credit life, accident, health, or loss-of-income insurance may be excluded from the finance charge if the following conditions are met:
    (i) The insurance coverage is not required by the creditor, and this fact is disclosed in writing.

    (ii) The premium for the initial term of insurance coverage is disclosed. If the term of insurance is less than the term of the transaction, the term of insurance also shall be disclosed. The premium may be disclosed on a unit-cost basis only in open-end credit transactions, closed-end credit transactions by mail or telephone under § 226.17(g), and certain closed-end credit transactions involving an insurance plan that limits the total amount of indebtedness subject to coverage.

    (iii) The consumer signs or initials an affirmative written request for the insurance after receiving the disclosures specified in this paragraph. Any consumer in the transaction may sign or initial the request.

    (2) Premiums for insurance against loss of or damage to property, or against liability arising out of the ownership or use of property,5 may be excluded from the finance charge if the following conditions are met:

    (i) The insurance coverage may be obtained from a person of the consumer’s choice,6 and this fact is disclosed.

    (ii) If the coverage is obtained from or through the creditor, the premium for the initial term of insurance coverage shall be disclosed. If the term of insurance is less than the term of the transaction, the term of insurance shall also be disclosed. The premium may be disclosed on a unit-cost basis only in open-end credit transactions, closed-end credit transactions by mail or telephone under § 226.17(g), and certain closed-end credit transactions involving an insurance plan that limits the total amount of indebtedness subject to coverage.

    (3) Voluntary debt cancellation fees. (i) Charges or premiums paid for debt cancellation coverage of the type specified in paragraph (d)(3)(ii) of this section may be excluded from the finance charge, whether or not the coverage is insurance, if the following conditions are met:

    (A) The debt cancellation agreement or coverage is not required by the creditor, and this fact is disclosed in writing;

    (B) The fee or premium for the initial term of coverage is disclosed. If the term of coverage is less than the term of the credit transaction, the term of coverage also shall be disclosed. The fee or premium may be disclosed on a unit-cost basis only in open-end credit transactions, closed-end credit transactions by mail or telephone under § 226.17(g), and certain closed-end credit transactions involving a debt cancellation agreement that limits the total amount of indebtedness subject to coverage;

    (C) The consumer signs or initials an affirmative written request for coverage after receiving the disclosures specified in this paragraph. Any consumer in the transaction may sign or initial the request.

    (ii) Paragraph (d)(3)(i) of this section applies to fees paid for debt cancellation coverage that provides for cancellation of all or part of the debtor’s liability for amounts exceeding the value of the collateral securing the obligation, or in the event of the loss of life, health, or income or in case of accident.

    (e) Certain security interest charges. If itemized and disclosed, the following charges may be excluded from the finance charge:

    (1) Taxes and fees prescribed by law that actually are or will be paid to public officials for determining the existence of or for perfecting, releasing, or satisfying a security interest.

    (2) The premium for insurance in lieu of perfecting a security interest to the extent that the premium does not exceed the fees described in paragraph (e)(1) of this section that otherwise would be payable.
    (3) Taxes on security instruments. Any tax levied on security instruments or on documents evidencing indebtedness if the payment of such taxes is a requirement for recording the instrument securing the evidence of indebtedness.

    (f) Prohibited offsets. Interest, dividends, or other income received or to be received by the consumer on deposits or investments shall not be deducted in computing the finance charge.

    [Codified to 12 C.F.R. § 226.4]

    [Section 226.4 amended at 61 Fed. Reg. 49245, September 19, 1996, effective October 21, 1996]

  948. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Seymour, what point are you trying to make?
    ===============================================

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Politicians relaxed lending standards so the unqualified could buy homeS they could not afford.
    ==================================================

    Do you not realize that this is the STUPIDEST POST anyone has EVER posted? Let’s say the mayor of the town came to me and said, “I hereby decree that anyone who can fog a glass can now qualify for a loan!”

    I would then say, “well, uh, sure, but if I make them a loan, I’ll go bankrupt.” Even if a politican did relax the standard which is highly dubious, to actually MAKE that loan would be insane.

    But that’s what you conservatives want, less government right? That’s what you talk about, and then they relax the oversight, sh** goes horribly wrong and you’re calling me names. Sounds like you’re the one needing help turd.

  949. Try Cheating Says:

    There is a lot more Seymour, shall I post the rest? It will take some time however. Now, go fluck yourself!

  950. Seymour Bush Says:

    Post #947 the very definition of “If you can’t dazzle ‘em with brilliance, baffle “em with bullsh**.”

  951. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    There is a lot more Seymour, shall I post the rest? It will take some time however. Now, go fluck yourself!
    ==============================================

    You don’t even know what you posted do you? Regulation Z is the consumer credit requirement law of posting accurate fees and charges to consumers. It has NOTHING to do with lending standards! The more you post, the stupider you get! Find Rockstar and get some of his “thinkin’ juice”

  952. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, you asked why it occurred. The law was changed on lending so that most anybody could buy a home. You said Republicans did this. Your statement was proven wrong.

  953. fat kidd Says:

    “The Rules of Conservative Correctness”

    1) if anyone disagrees with you, they are a “Democrat.”

    2) if anyone argues with you, they are a “Liberal.”

    3) if they argue with you and actually present data (formerly known as
    “debating”), shrug it off as “propaganda from the Liberal Media.”

    4) if you cannot rebut the argument pick on details such as
    misspellings, improper punctuation or taglines.

    5) If your opponent has an unrefutable argument, change the subject.

    6) if your opponent consistently overturns your “correct” stories (anything
    told by Rush Limbaugh), use ad hominem attacks.

    7) anyone who puts life over profits is a “tree hugger.”

    8) anyone who refutes or debates “correct” science (Creationism, Ecological
    Stability) is a “sky-is-falling” reactionary.

    9) anyone who opposes the melding of religion and government is one of the
    “liberals” who helped create the rampant immorality today.

    10) any federal program created by a Democrat, or that “looks” Democratic is
    “socialistic.”

    11) dismantling programs and restrictions on spending then sending the money
    to states as a “block grant” is better than having a standardized Federal
    program with rules.

    12) giving tax money to People is “enslaving them,” giving tax money to
    Corporations is “making jobs.”

    13) anything that does not turn a profit for private corporations is “an
    elitist” operation.

    14) always take everything personally.

    15) whatever your weakness is, blame it on your opponent.

    16) the more narrow and prejudiced your sources, the more you project that
    onto your opponent.

    17) when your opponent attacks a Republican/conservative President’s
    policies, blame them on a Democratic Congress (or vice versa).

    18) when quoting your opponent, edit his words to conform to “correctness.”

    19) anyone who reads anything beyond “the Limbaugh Letter” is an “ivory
    tower intellectual.”

    20) when all else fails, lie.

  954. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, did you not understand what I wrote? I said there is more…would you like for me to post it?

  955. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    I don’t predict things moron. Nor do I care about the Browns.

    ***

    bwahahahahaha!

    you basically acted like Holmgren & Ryan were gonna lead the Brownies to the Super Bowl all week and I ask for an actual prediction and you call me a moron?

    don’t get mad when somebody calls you on your bs
    ===================================================

    I can tell reading ain’t your thing Rockstar. That I can tell. What I said for the trillionth time is Belichik, and Holmgren employed or are employing Ryan. You seem to have a problem with that. If you do, you must know more than they do. With all due respects, when it comes to the NFL, I’ll listen to them. When it comes to mucking out a stall, I’ll call you. How’s that?
    ——————————
    BULL**** POS lying cross-poster.
    You run the same stupid reply, even though it’s gotten shot out of the water, over and over.

    Raiderfan: “Rob Ryan sucked. Glad he’s gone”

    Oakglen: “Guess you know more than Bilicheck or Holmgren.”

    Raiderfan: “You idiot. Neither of them hired Ryan for DC”

    OakDork: “hahahaha”

    Raiderfan: “why act like a child with the silly hahaha’s? that’s what children do”

    Oakdork: “Hahahahaha. You’re a moron because Holmgren evaluated his staff in Cleveland for FOUR MONTHS, AND THEN DECIDED TO KEEP Ryan.

    Raiderfan: “Wrong, vertically challenged tool. Holmgren hired Dec 22. made announcement that he wasn’t making any changes right away, on Jan 7″

    OakSeyDeboDumbass: “You LIE, You lie…post a link. You can’t. You won’t.”

    Reallycoolraiderfan: “h t tp ://fantasy.ballhype DOT com/story/holmgren-to-keep-mangini-staff-in-2010/”

    h t tp://lebrownstown DOT com/?p=11525

    OakCrossPoster: “hahaha..oh wait. what? Oh..um..uh…well, oh…have to go. My ride is here. ”

    Raiderfans: “See you in 10 min”

    Oakdork:
    “Oakglenn Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    Actually Daze, I saw both Unitas and Elway play many times with my own eyes. Elway was the best QB I ever saw. hate to say it but it’s true. If he had the Pro Bowlers and Hall of Famers Montana had, he would have won 6-8 Super Bowls.”

    Raiderfan: Unitas retired 37 years ago. How old are you?

    Oakglen/SeyMoron: · Seymour Bush Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    No, I think you got that a little bit wrong as usual. I am young rich, have homes, young girlfriends and a FANTASTIC life. But even if I was what you described, I wouldn’t trade that for being you- the worthless internet troll.
    Hahahahahahahahaha.
    ================================

    Raiderfan: In other words, you’re a lying POS crossposter, who makes up lies as he goes along?
    Yeah, we know.

  956. Try Cheating Says:

    Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA)

    The ECOA prohibits discrimination in lending based on race, creed, religion, national origin, sex, marital status or age. This makes sense given its title, right? After all, if credit wasn’t equal for all, there wouldn’t be a need for this law. This law goes one step further and mandates the lender to send the applicant a written explanation stating the reason(s) for a rejection of the application. This letter must be mailed within 30 days of the turn down.

    Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA)

    The Fair Credit Reporting Act is important in every aspect of your credit life. You would be well advised to at least research this act on the Internet. When you apply for a mortgage, the lender pulls a credit report. The FCRA guarantees you will have access to that report.

    This has become so common place that lenders automatically give you a copy for your records. They will even go over your report with you should you have a low credit score. Some lenders offer help to people with troubled credit so they are able to qualify for the loan.

    Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act (RESPA)

    The RESPA requires lenders to give a “good faith estimate” of all closing costs you are likely to pay. The idea is to keep the borrower from being forced to pay “hidden” fees at closing.

    Keep in mind the lender won’t know the precise closing costs when you submit your application but the lender will be able to estimate the costs to within a few hundred dollars. Along with the good faith estimate you will receive the HUD approved information booklet that discusses closing costs. Read it.

    Truth In Lending Act (TILA)

    The TILA, like the FCRA, is important in every aspect of your credit life. It too should be researched and read. When you are applying for a mortgage loan, you may hear the term Reg Z because that is the paragraph that requires the lender to inform you of the annual percentage rate (APR) on the loan.

    With a known APR you are better able to compare the relative value of different loans. In other words, you can see what loan makes sense for you at that point in time, at least in theory.

    Remember, ALL lenders must abide by the above laws. Banks, mortgage brokers, mortgage bankers, savings and loans and credit unions are not exempt from the law. Knowing these laws exist should make you a smarter consumer.

  957. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, there is more…shall I continue?

  958. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, again, I have proven once again that you are a fuggin moron, who argues just to argue. Your positions are consistenlty refuted, and then you change direction to another issue in your continued attempt to mislead others. You are ill!

  959. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Seymour, there is more…shall I continue?
    ==============================================

    hahahahahah!!! You keep going and you keep looking STUPIDER AND STUPIDER AND STUPIDER!

    Here, let me explain to you, what you are posting, since you have no idea: The equal credit opportunity Act or ECOA, is designed so that if you have a credit score of 650, and I have a credit score of 650, and some one who falls into a certain list of criteria has a credit score of 650 a lending institution can NOT just make the loan to you and I and NOT them. This is NOT lowering LENDING criteria you MORON!

  960. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    =====================================

    OMG, we have the Dummass Hall of Fame here!! And look who just arrived: A Charter Member.

    You STILL haven’t refuted my facts. Your big comeback was Raider fan hated Ryan. Don’t you know that “Raider Fan” is the most DERIDED Fan in the world?? Are you Stupid? Raider fan is made fun of more than the Raiders! And that’s your source? And then, on top of it all, you name that again:

    LooK:

  961. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SeyGlenn: still waiting on those predictions …

  962. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.d

  963. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Raiderfan: “Rob Ryan sucked. Glad he’s gone”
    =====================================================

    Why don’t we try this for the trillionth time:

    I said Bellicik had him on his staff for two Super Bowl Wins. He Coached the Linbebackers. Do you think the LB’s have anything to do with an Odd front defense?

    Next, I said Holmgren didn’t have a problem with him, since he is STILL the DC over in Cleveland. Your answers were, he didn’t hire him, and make a prediction. And Raider Fan says he sucked. Those are the most idiotic comments of ALL TIME.

    You guys need some time off. Maybe a new hobby. Try knitting.

  964. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    SeyGlenn: still waiting on those predictions …
    ==========================================

    I told you. I don’t follow the Browns, I don’t care about the Browns. I don’t make predictions. Are you stupid, or are you just playing someone stupid?

  965. Seymour Bush Says:

    Let’s hear you make a prediction RR. How’s Jason Campbell going to do? Dmac? JLH? Aren’t you a big JLH fan?

  966. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Vincent Jackson suspended 3 games by the NFL for second DUI.

  967. Seymour Bush Says:

    Why is Lap Dog sitting there yapping and yapping like, well, like a Lap Dog?

  968. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I told you. I don’t follow the Browns, I don’t care about the Browns. I don’t make predictions.

    ***

    be a man. show a little backbone

    -Browns overall record
    -Browns run defense
    -Will Ryan stay past this season?

    answer those questions and I’ll leave you alone

    if you can’t put up, shut up. I don’t want to here another thing about Holmgren, Belichick or Ryan from you, got it?

  969. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Seymour, again, I have proven once again that you are a fuggin moron, who argues just to argue. Your positions are consistenlty refuted, and then you change direction to another issue in your continued attempt to mislead others. You are ill!
    ============================================

    Let’s break this down to show what a complete imbecile you are. This will only take a second. You claimed that the relaxing of government standards is what caused the mortgage crisis. Then to support the relaxing of goverment standards you cite this:

    Truth In Lending Act (TILA)

    The TILA, like the FCRA, is important in every aspect of your credit life. It too should be researched and read. When you are applying for a mortgage loan, you may hear the term Reg Z because that is the paragraph that requires the lender to inform you of the annual percentage rate (APR) on the loan.

    With a known APR you are better able to compare the relative value of different loans. In other words, you can see what loan makes sense for you at that point in time, at least in theory.

    Remember, ALL lenders must abide by the above laws. Banks, mortgage brokers, mortgage bankers, savings and loans and credit unions are not exempt from the law. Knowing these laws exist should make you a smarter consumer.
    ================================================

    Show me on this, that you yourself cited, to support your own argument, is a relaxation of ANY standard of anything? Or do you not have ANY IDEA what you are doing?

  970. Richochet Says:

    First off, your ignorant ass is confused, Oakglen.
    I NEVER said “He didn’t hire him, make a prediction”.
    You get slapped down by so many, you can’t remember who’s shoving dirt over you. never said make a prediction, Old Man

    Now..read YOUR comments again, you lying POS.

    Richochet Says:
    June 28th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 25th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF.
    I have bad news for you, Oakdork. That’s a little over TWO WEEKS, NOT 4 MONTHS, you fool.
    —————————————————–
    Seymour Bush Says: NO HE DIDN’T LIAR! YOU HAVE NO CRED HERE. YOU ARE A LIAR! POST A LINK! YOU DIDN’T BECAUSE YOU CAN’T! Wrong AGAIN!
    ====================================

    SEE, YOU WERE WRONG, and you don’t have the balls to admit it. Like everyone says, you make stupid comments, then go off in some silly direction, avoiding what was said.

    Link WAS POSTED.

    You? You’re a worm, and a coward, and predictably tucked tail.

  971. Seymour Bush Says:

    RR, that’s cause you can’t refute anything you dummass drunken hick. You say the dummest crap on this board ass wipe. You wanted me, you got me. STFU you turd.

  972. Richochet Says:

    Raiders defense since Ryan left?
    Moved up.

    Browns defense since Ryan got there?
    Dropped from 26th to 31st.

    do the math

  973. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    RR, that’s cause you can’t refute anything you dummass drunken hick. You say the dummest crap on this board ass wipe. You wanted me, you got me. STFU you turd.
    ====================
    LMFAO…can just see you melting down.

    Picking up your cane..hitting the dog

  974. Plunketthead Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:

    hahahahahah!!! You keep going and you keep looking STUPIDER AND STUPIDER AND STUPIDER!

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

    This is about the 20th time you have said this to someone besides moi in the past thirty days. Its the same MO everytime. You say something you cant backup and when called on it you do everything except admit you were wrong.

    Its not just a misunderstanding now and then like we all have. Its an everyday thing.

    The truth is obvious to everyone. Its not a stupid thing. Its an ignorant bigot with serious psychological issues thing

  975. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?

  976. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Raiders defense since Ryan left?
    Moved up.

    Browns defense since Ryan got there?
    Dropped from 26th to 31st.

    do the math
    =================================================

    Woah. All the way from 26th to 31st? How did the Raiders Defense do? We went from what to what with out Ryan. I’m sure we jumped up big time. Tell me.

  977. RaiderRockstar Says:

    can just see you melting down.

    ***

    SeyGlenn backs himself into a wall and starts insulting others, thinking that’ll change the topic and he won’t have to answer the original questions …

    not gonna fly. he’ll have to man up or pipe down with that Rob Ryan nonsense

  978. Seymour Bush Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    This is about the 20th time you have said this to someone besides moi in the past thirty days. Its the same MO everytime. You say something you cant backup and when called on it you do everything except admit you were wrong.
    —————————————————–

    Hey idiot, why don’t you go back on this entire blog, and you will see I have four or five threads going and I have backed up every single thing over and over. I do it everytime. You may not like the answer, but it’s there. That’s the problem. Idiots like yourself lose the arguement, and then come back again and again and again. Go on this thread today and tell me one point I did not answer. go ahead. And don’t use that idiotic “make a prediction” swill.

  979. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    can just see you melting down.

    ***

    SeyGlenn backs himself into a wall and starts insulting others, thinking that’ll change the topic and he won’t have to answer the original questions …

    not gonna fly. he’ll have to man up or pipe down with that Rob Ryan nonsense
    =================================================

    You’re the one melting down. Or just plain drunk, which ever it is. I have made my point about Ryan. You can’t refute it. Sucks to be you.

  980. RaiderTW Says:

    SeyGlenn: still waiting on those predictions …

    Here’s a prediction for you, your GOP candidate for Pres will be half Gov Palin who said:
    “This is Reagan country,” the former Alaska governor told the cheering crowd, invoking the name of a fellow conservative icon, “and perhaps it was destiny that the man who went to California’s Eureka College would become so woven within and interlinked to the Golden State.”
    Defending BP over the American people, voting against Wall st reform & a Party leader who says Boehner: We Can’t Have the War AND Social Security – So We Need To Cut Social Security!
    The only party made more of a laughing stock than the Pubs will be the Tea Baggers who want to barter chickens for health care.
    This will be like shooting friends faces in a quail reserve!

  981. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    can just see you melting down.
    =======================================

    your idiotic refutation was you know more than Belichik and Holmgren. Sorry, but if that DOESN’t deserve some insults I don’t know what does.

  982. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SeyGlenn: Rob Ryan is a terrible DC

    I think he proved that …

  983. Seymour Bush Says:

    Anyone have anything else?

  984. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Hey idiot, why don’t you go back on this entire blog, and you will see I have four or five threads going and I have backed up every single thing over and over. I do it everytime.

    ——————————–

    No you don’t. Back this up the beeotch.

    Seymour Bush Says:
    May 24th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Jamarcus Boucher weren’t you the one making fun of Jamarcus Russell’s intelligence? Compared to you Russell is Steven freaking Hawking.

  985. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    Anyone have anything else?

    Read 984 beeotch.

  986. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “can just see you melting down” was a comment from Rich and you replied to me twice on it, like I said it

    LOL!

    too scared to attack Rich now because he’s got your number?

  987. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    SeyGlenn: Rob Ryan is a terrible DC

    I think he proved that …
    ==================================================

    That is your opinion. If you noticed, which none of you did, I never expressed an opinion on Rob Ryan being a DC. I never said I liked him, never said I hated him. What I did say was Mike Holmgren is OK with him as his DC. And I will take Holmgren’s opinion over any of yours.

  988. Seymour Bush Says:

    Lap Dog, you are an embarrassment to trolls everywhere. Stay in the house.

  989. Plunketthead Says:

    Vegas

    You probaly know that UNLV’s leading point scorer was arrested for spanking his ho. Here is his 28 year old hos myspace. She calls herself beautiful nightmare

    A nightmare with pancake titties

    http://www.myspace.com/skyybluu702

  990. fat kidd Says:

    Flozell Adams is looking for $4 million
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 1, 2010 2:28 PM ET
    Like Terrell Owens, Flozell Adams has a price and he’s sticking to it.

    The former Dallas Cowboys left tackle wants $4 million for 2010, according to Jason La Canfora of NFL Network. The total sounds reasonable to us; Orlando Pace earned $5 million last season and Pace’s play had clearly declined more than Adams’. (Only the Bears didn’t seem to know.)

    It’s obvious that no team, including the Steelers, has met Flozell’s price yet. But there’s no inherent pressure for Adams to sign before training camp, which he’d probably prefer to avoid.

    The Hotel will be open in 2010, the only question left is the location and nightly rate.

  991. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Come on Seymour Douche, you say “you have backed up every single thing over and over”, then back up your claim that you mis-spelled “Stephen” Hawking as Steven.

    chirp chirp

  992. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?
    =========================
    don’t run that weak BS spin..you know I’ll just torch it.

    YOU STATED:
    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 28th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    You see psycho nutjob, the last four months Holmgren was actually reviewing all the game tape to see what changes in coaching and personnel he would make.

    =======================
    After I state he made the comment in less than THREE WEEKS, where you CALLED ME A LIAR and challenged me to post a link…which I did??

    NOW YOU BACKTRACK, AND THINK THE ABOVE STUPID TAKE WORKS?

    Wrong, liar.
    You got slammed down.

    Find some balls and admit when you’re wrong.

    (NOW IS WHEN YOU REPLY WITH SOMETHING WHERE YOU THINK I WAS WRONG, BECAUSE IN YOUR LITTLE ALKIE, FEEBLE, WHAT’S LEFT OF IT’S MIND, THAT WORKS FOR YOU)

    You wonder why you’re such an easy target?

    You..really…don’t get it, do you?

  993. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    COme on Seymour, just admit it, you don’t back up everything like you say you do.

  994. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    too scared to attack Rich now because he’s got your number?
    ===================================================

    This is a joke right?

  995. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Douche doesn’t back anything up, he is not a man, he is a coward.

  996. fat kidd Says:

    Nnamdi Asomugha: JaMarcus Russell didn’t get “the mental part”
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 1, 2010 4:53 PM ET
    Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha says the reason JaMarcus Russell failed as the team’s quarterback is simple: Russell’s impressive arm didn’t have an impressive head to match.

    “He didn’t progress as quickly as we wanted him to or needed him to,” Asomugha said Thursday on ESPN’s Jim Rome Is Burning. “The mental part of the game, I don’t think, caught on for him as quickly as we needed it to.”

    Asomugha wasn’t ripping Russell so much as he was saying what Russell needs to improve upon if he’s ever going to make it in the NFL. But he made clear that he believes releasing Russell and acquiring Jason Campbell will make a big difference in Oakland.

    “The offseason was great, with us cutting down on certain players,” Asomugha said.

    When Rome asked Asomugha specifically what happened in the offseason to make the team better, Asomugha answered, “The Jason Campbell trade.”

    Still, while Asomugha doesn’t sound like he’ll miss having Russell as a teammate, he does think Russell could have a future in the NFL — if his experience in Oakland motivates him to work harder.

    “It’s a chance to start over again, have that chip on your shoulder and start over again,” Asomugha said. “If that doesn’t fuel you to do much better, then you know there’s a problem.”

  997. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Coward.

  998. Richochet Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Hey idiot, why don’t you go back on this entire blog, and you will see I have four or five threads going and I have backed up every single thing over and over. I do it everytime.
    =================
    WHAT????

    You didn’t just say that?

    Are you FREAKING SERIOUS?

    You are the biggest coward on this board, right before TJ.
    When you get called on something, YOU DIVERSION POST, GOING OFF IN SOME SILLY DIRECTION, making no sense, resorting to the above mentioned juvenile “hahaha” while avoiding the question.

    You have even less credibility here than TJ..and everyone knows that.

  999. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?
    =========================

    See, this is exactly what I am talking about. We have been over this and over this and over this and over this. The point that you are making is Holmgren RUSHED IN, and in two weeks just decided he was keeping Mangini and Ryan. On a whim. Because he had to make a quick decision and he had spent the prior three weeks TROLLING on a Pittsburgh Steeler site. So he just opted to keep the staff. That’s your point right?

  1000. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    EVERYONE knows that. Seymour Coward is the MOST hated person on this blog. With morons like RMR and Stool Kell that is quite a title.

  1001. Seymour Bush Says:

    That’s why it takes FIVE of you. Because I”M the coward. You POS make me sick.

  1002. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    Come on Seymour Coward, you say “you have backed up every single thing over and over”, then back up and admit you mis-spelled “Stephen” Hawking as Steven.

    chirp chirp

  1003. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Come on Seymour Coward, you say “you have backed up every single thing over and over”, then back up and admit you mis-spelled “Stephen” Hawking as Steven.

    chirp chirp

  1004. Seymour Bush Says:

    No, what we do know is there are a couple of trolls on the board. Richochet, Try Dancing, and Lap Dog are one two and three. That is a known fact. Anything else?

  1005. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

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  1006. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    too scared to attack Rich now because he’s got your number?
    ===================================================

    This is a joke right?
    ========================
    No, it’s not a joke.

    You get slammed, and you get so desperate you actually LOOK TO REAL MADDENRAIDER for support…then…instead of addressing me torching your idiot takes, when you’re really desperate, you end up in the gutter, only saying “where are your kids?”
    “What does your wife call you?”

    Think about it.

    does anything scream NO MAS anymore than someone ONLY coming up with the above…at MIDNIGHT?

    Hey…I’m not special.
    You’re everyone’s beyotch..I’m just one on a long list.

  1007. Seymour Bush Says:

    Lap Dog your yapping is embarrassing. Really embarrassing for you and richochet.

  1008. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymours Coward

    Come on Seymour Coward, you say “you have backed up every single thing over and over”, then back up and admit you mis-spelled “Stephen” Hawking as Steven.

    chirp chirp

  1009. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet, now you are embarrassing yourself. Your only friend here is mistabrowntoiletpaper. Sucks to be you two.

  1010. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Cowardess

    Come on Seymour Coward, you say “you have backed up every single thing over and over”, then back up and admit you mis-spelled “Stephen” Hawking as Steven.

    chirp chirp

  1011. Seymour Bush Says:

    You need some more troops. I’ll wait. Lap Dog, richochet, RR, plunkethead, mistabrOwn. This IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL. You gotta do better than this. Find some GOOD posters. I’ll wait.

  1012. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Just answer the question coward

  1013. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says: yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap

  1014. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

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  1015. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says: yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.

  1016. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    LOL, you are a coward pos.

  1017. Seymour Bush Says:

    I guess this has now devolved into yappy dog.

  1018. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    I hope you don’t have children, because they would be very dissapointed in having a coward as a father.

  1019. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says: yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.

  1020. Plunketthead Says:

    LOL

    Thats the funniest thing you have ever said. Good one

    You need some more troops. I’ll wait. Lap Dog, richochet, RR, plunkethead, mistabrOwn. This IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL. You gotta do better than this. Find some GOOD posters. I’ll wait.

  1021. Seymour Bush Says:

    Dr. Steven Hawking Says: yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.

  1022. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Coward says: I am not a man, I am a coward pos.

    WOOF WOOF that beeotch. LMFAO.

  1023. RaiderTW Says:

    Damn, anyone over 6 years old on here?

  1024. Seymour Bush Says:

    Plunketthead Says: yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yapyap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.

  1025. Richochet Says:

    I TOLD YOU, DON’T EVEN THINK THE FOLLOWING BS DIVERSION REPLY WILL WASH…I’LL TORCH IT EVERY TIME.
    When you’re wrong, little man, ADMIT YOU’RE WRONG.
    But you never do, and that’s why everyone enjoys slamming you.
    ———————————
    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?
    =========================

    See, this is exactly what I am talking about. We have been over this and over this and over this and over this. The point that you are making is Holmgren RUSHED IN, and in two weeks just decided he was keeping Mangini and Ryan. On a whim. Because he had to make a quick decision and he had spent the prior three weeks TROLLING on a Pittsburgh Steeler site. So he just opted to keep the staff. That’s your point right?
    ========================
    NO, THAT’S NOT THE POINT I WAS MAKING, AND DON’T EVEN TRY THAT WEAKASS SPIN.
    YOU commented to others how Holmgren, AFTER 4 MONTHS OF REVIEWING THE STAFF, decided to keep Ryan.

    I called you on it. Said you are WRONG. Said his exact words were in didn’t think it right to fire a HC and his staff, after just one year, and was not making any changes AT THIS POINT..and that was NOT 4 months, as you stated, but less than 3 weeks.

    YOU CALLED ME A LIAR. YOU CHALLENGED ME FOR LINKS.

    Now? Now you want to backtrack and say ‘oh, what do you think he did for 3 weeks”??

    Either you lied, or you’re stupid,. In both instances, you’re a coward, and you have zero credibility.

  1026. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Damn, anyone over 6 years old on here?
    ==============================================

    Unfortunately no. I feel like I am surrounded by all of Paris Hiltons pocket pooches.

  1027. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    LMFAO. This is one for the ages. Seymour Coward is completeling losing it and is in prime melt down mode. wow…

  1028. Plunketthead Says:

    I am not a big BB fan but I would like to see the Knicks on top again. I use to love seeing Reggie spank spike lee the migit.

    It would be good for BB if Lebron went there.

  1029. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Damn, anyone over 6 years old on here?
    =-==================
    I have a birthday coming up.
    That count?

  1030. RaiderTW Says:

    Nothing you have ever said has counted.

  1031. Seymour Bush Says:

    So what you are saying richochet is Holmgren just decided after two weeks, without going over any game film to just keep the entire staff for continuity sakes. That’s what you are saying rigth?

  1032. Seymour Bush Says:

    Just leave me alone please. Why do you guys keep piling on me?

  1033. Seymour Bush Says:

    Not melting down at all. I am waiting for someone with a brain to show up. looks like TW is here at least.

  1034. Seymour Bush Says:

    I make mistakes, it is difficult for me to admit it, say what you will about me, but when you rag on me it hurts, I have feeling too, and mine are really hurt. I just want friends, is that too much for a guy to ask?

  1035. Seymour Bush Says:

    Now here comes more trolling. Now they have hacked my name. If you have to all jump on me and hack my name, then I have won. Good night!

  1036. Seymour Bush Says:

    Trolly trolly Thank you for hacking my name.

  1037. Seymour Bush Says:

    Thank you for hacking my name.

  1038. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Lap Dog your yapping is embarrassing. Really embarrassing for you and richochet.
    ==================
    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Richochet, now you are embarrassing yourself.
    ==============================
    :mrgreen:
    Ever notice how when Oakglen gets really flustered?
    Feeling defenseless?

    He starts telling everyone the same thing..how they’re “embarrassing themselves”??

    I mean, it couldn’t be that…well…that YOU’RE the one that’s embarrassed, and is pretty much out of ammo? And this is all you now have?

    that possible, Oakdork? lol

  1039. Seymour Bush Says:

    Jerks hacking my name, wtf.

  1040. Seymour Bush Says:

    Thank you for hacking my name!

  1041. Plunketthead Says:

    Nonetheless 99% of your type is jr high nonsense.
    The yapping stuff, the YOURE STUPID stuff, and the genital/body fluid stuff you type everyday.

    That was my last remark to you
    Last word is all yours

  1042. Seymour Bush Says:

    Yes Richochet it is possible, could it be that is my defense mechanism, jeez, you are a real genious aren’t you, no?

  1043. Seymour Bush Says:

    Oh wait, this blog prevents name hacking now doesn’t it, maybe I am really in melt down mode. Sht, where are my bi-polar meds mom.

  1044. Seymour Bush Says:

    Plunketthead says: yapyap yap yippity yap yap ypa yap yap yippit yapppity

  1045. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    can just see you melting down.

    ***

    =================================================

    You’re the one melting down. Or just plain drunk, which ever it is. I have made my point about Ryan. You can’t refute it. Sucks to be you.
    ============================
    Hey Oakdork…can you explain why you TWICE quoted the “melt down” and directed it at RR, when I was the one who posted it?

    See..RR commented on that..that was a perfect chance to say ‘oh, my bad’..but you didn’t.
    Because you have no spine.

    So..hey..just curious, gumby

  1046. Plunketthead Says:

    Vince Jackson suspended?
    Did I miss that or is it new news

  1047. Seymour Bush Says:

    Define coward?

  1048. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Thank you for hacking my name!
    ==================
    Hey…Real MaddenMoron is here.

    that’s his forte’…

    Ask him when he signs in under MR, and he’ll tell you guys how to do it.

  1049. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Define coward?
    ============================
    This isn’t Oakdork/Seymour

    It’s Real MaddenRaider..

    He just wants attention…he’s so damn stupid he can’t even NOT make it obvious when it’s him, lol….damn he’s sad.

    Oakdork is pathetic.
    TJ is just basically a loon
    But MaddenMoron? Living at home with Mommy? Where he’s almost 40? Admitted to never having a girl? Comments about how he fantasizes over his cousins and nieces? No job? Disgusting fat slob?..

    Guys just sad.

    don’t reply to him

  1050. Plunketthead Says:

    Chris Simms busted this morning for driving under influence. Police said Chris admitted to smoking a joint.

    Jackson suspended for three games

  1051. Try Cheating Says:

    Pelosi:”Unemployment Checks Fastest Way to Create Jobs”

    I mean really! Just look at how many jobs those checks have created SO FAR, Nancy!

  1052. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour is ill equipped to debate factually any of his positions. Seymour, you are a puzzy. Just sayin

  1053. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Plunkett,

    I always thought Tre’von was a creep. Starting with his first year at UNLV went he fought with and threw the seniors under the bus.

    That chick, is a stripper, I will bet anything. I know the look.

    He isn’t that good anyways, your shoot-first with a low percentage point guard.

  1054. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would like to thank the libs on here from earlier this afternoon.

    Took the aggression out on a brand new pinnacle and shot 6 over on the back nine of my local course.

  1055. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, GE CEO and Obama supporter is turning on him too: Mr Immelt also had harsh words for Barack Obama, US president, lamenting what he called a “terrible” national mood and expressing concern that over-regulation in response to the global financial crisis would damp a “tepid” US economic recovery. Business did not like the US president, and the president did not like business, he said, making a point of praising Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor, for her defence of German industry.

    “People are in a really bad mood [in the US],” Mr Immelt said. “We [the US] are a pathetic exporter…we have to become an industrial powerhouse again but you don’t do this when government and entrepreneurs are not in synch.”

    Immelt, this is what you get for putting an empty suit that achieved nothing inside the White House. There are consequences for being ignorant. Ask Seymour!

  1056. Try Cheating Says:

    I guess using Nancy’s logic, we should all quit our jobs (or get fired) and collect unemployment from the government. Just think of the millions of jobs that will be created by 100+ million people doing that!!!! Unfortunately, there will be no one to fill all those new jobs being created because we will all be too busy collecting our unemployment checks and sitting on our a$$es watching Oprah and Jerry Springer for work. Makes sense to me (if I was a left-wing nut, that is).

  1057. Try Cheating Says:

    Seymour, tell us what roll Fannie and Freddie Mac played in the housing market crash? Go ahead…I need a laugh, ya putz!

  1058. Try Cheating Says:

    role

  1059. Try Cheating Says:

    Deficit spending from 2002 -2006 (5yrs) under Republican congress was $1.51 Trillion
    Deficit under Dem congress from 2007-2011 (5 yrs, includes projected deficits from Obama’s budgets) $5.13 Trillion. Can you see the nearly $4 Trillion difference?

  1060. Try Cheating Says:

    Why Obamanomics Has Failed
    Uncertainty about future taxes and regulations is enemy No. 1 of economic growth..ArticleVideoComments (449)more in Opinion ».EmailPrintSave This ↓ More.
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    The administration’s stimulus program has failed. Growth is slow and unemployment remains high. The president, his friends and advisers talk endlessly about the circumstances they inherited as a way of avoiding responsibility for the 18 months for which they are responsible.

    But they want new stimulus measures—which is convincing evidence that they too recognize that the earlier measures failed. And so the U.S. was odd-man out at the G-20 meeting over the weekend, continuing to call for more government spending in the face of European resistance.

    .The contrast with President Reagan’s antirecession and pro-growth measures in 1981 is striking. Reagan reduced marginal and corporate tax rates and slowed the growth of nondefense spending. Recovery began about a year later. After 18 months, the economy grew more than 9% and it continued to expand above trend rates.

    Two overarching reasons explain the failure of Obamanomics. First, administration economists and their outside supporters neglected the longer-term costs and consequences of their actions. Second, the administration and Congress have through their deeds and words heightened uncertainty about the economic future. High uncertainty is the enemy of investment and growth.

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    .Most of the earlier spending was a very short-term response to long-term problems. One piece financed temporary tax cuts. This was a mistake, and ignores the role of expectations in the economy. Economic theory predicts that temporary tax cuts have little effect on spending. Unless tax cuts are expected to last, consumers save the proceeds and pay down debt. Experience with past temporary tax reductions, as in the Carter and first Bush presidencies, confirms this outcome.

    Another large part of the stimulus went to relieve state and local governments of their budget deficits. Transferring a deficit from the state to the federal government changes very little. Some teachers and police got an additional year of employment, but their gain is temporary. Any benefits to them must be balanced against the negative effect of the increased public debt and the temporary nature of the transfer.

    The Obama economic team ignored past history. The two most successful fiscal stimulus programs since World War II—under Kennedy-Johnson and Reagan—took the form of permanent reductions in corporate and marginal tax rates. Economist Arthur Okun, who had a major role in developing the Kennedy-Johnson program, later analyzed the effect of individual items. He concluded that corporate tax reduction was most effective.

    Another defect of Obamanomics was that part of the increased spending authorized by the 2009 stimulus bill was held back. Remember the oft-repeated claim that the spending would go for “shovel ready” projects? That didn’t happen, though spending will flow more rapidly now in an effort to lower unemployment and claim economic success during the fall election campaign.

    In his January 2010 State of the Union address, President Obama recognized that the United States must increase exports. He was right, but he has done little to help, either by encouraging investment to increase productivity, or by supporting trade agreements, despite his promise to the Koreans that he repeated in Toronto. Export earnings are the only way to service our massive foreign borrowing. This should be a high priority. Isn’t anyone in the government thinking about the future?

    Mr. Obama has denied the cost burden on business from his health-care program, but business is aware that it is likely to be large. How large? That’s part of the uncertainty that employers face if they hire additional labor.

    The president asks for cap and trade. That’s more cost and more uncertainty. Who will be forced to pay? What will it do to costs here compared to foreign producers? We should not expect businesses to invest in new, export-led growth when uncertainty about future costs is so large.

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    Financial-Rules Redo Passes Major Hurdle
    .Then there is Medicaid, the medical program for those with lower incomes. In the past, states paid about half of the cost, and they are responsible for 20% of the additional cost imposed by the program’s expansion. But almost all the states must balance their budgets, and the new Medicaid spending mandated by ObamaCare comes at a time when states face large deficits and even larger unfunded liabilities for pensions. All this only adds to uncertainty about taxes and spending.

    Other aspects of the Obama economic program are equally problematic. The auto bailouts ran roughshod over the rule of law. Chrysler bondholders were given short shrift in order to benefit the auto workers union. By weakening the rule of law, the president opened the way to great mischief and increased investors’ and producers’ uncertainty. That’s not the way to get more investment and employment.

    Almost daily, Mr. Obama uses his rhetorical skill to castigate businessmen who have the audacity to hope for profitable opportunities. No president since Franklin Roosevelt has taken that route. President Roosevelt slowed recovery in 1938-40 until the war by creating uncertainty about his objectives. It was harmful then, and it’s harmful now.

    In 1980, I had the privilege of advising Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to ignore the demands of 360 British economists who made the outrageous claim that Britain would never (yes, never) recover from her decision to reduce government spending during a severe recession. They wanted more spending. She responded with a speech promising to stay with her tight budget. She kept a sustained focus on long-term problems. Expectations about the economy’s future improved, and the recovery soon began.

    That’s what the U.S. needs now. Not major cuts in current spending, but a credible plan showing that authorities will not wait for a fiscal crisis but begin to act prudently and continue until deficits disappear, and the debt is below 60% of GDP. Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wisc.) offered a plan, but the administration and Congress ignored it.

    The country does not need more of the same. Successful leaders give the public reason to believe that they have a long-term program to bring a better tomorrow. Let’s plan our way out of our explosive deficits and our hesitant and jobless recovery by reducing uncertainty and encouraging growth.

    Mr. Meltzer is a professor of economics at Carnegie Mellon University, a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and the author of “A History of the Federal Reserve” (University of Chicago Press, 2003 and 2010).

  1061. Twocents Says:

    For me, this sparring between the Left and Right is no longer relevant.

    The truth is out there but like anything of value it takes a great deal of effort to uncover it.

    The Austrian School of economics has been saying “I told you so!” for close to 100 years. (Mises.org)

    It’s a good place to start.

  1062. Just Fire Baby Says:

    QB Bruce Gradkowski surprised Napa High School senior Michaela Lambert by presenting her with the Bay Area All-Star Scholarship Award during class. This was Napa High’s first student to receive the scholarship. The Bay Area All-Star Scholarship Program receives applications from schools in nine Bay Area counties annually. Student advisors recommend two female and two male seniors who display outstanding achievement in the classroom, community, and in sports.

    *************************

    From Bruce’s fan page on Facebook. Also pictures of him and Louis Murphy working with some handicap kids.

  1063. Drexl Says:

    “If Al Davis punched you in the face, you would have to fight the urge to thank him”.

    The most interesting man in the world.

  1064. Drexl Says:

    Try Cheating, you’re trying to hard.

    yoU kNOw it!

  1065. fat kidd Says:

    Try Cheating Says=The Obama economic team ignored past history. The two most successful fiscal stimulus programs since World War II—under Kennedy-Johnson and Reagan—took the form of permanent reductions in corporate and marginal tax rates. Economist Arthur Okun, who had a major role in developing the Kennedy-Johnson program, later analyzed the effect of individual items. He concluded that corporate tax reduction was most effective………………………………after reading your post we longer want economic advice from you but we wondering if you could explain too us what makes your legs move?

  1066. satanowesaldavis Says:

    why i dont care if obama fails at everything he does ++=

    cus hes the first black president

  1067. satanowesaldavis Says:

    take that white people !!

  1068. satanowesaldavis Says:

    ya know ? u whiteys just dont let up … we gave u O.J. , u fukked dat up . we gave u tiger woods . WOW , we even gave u michael jackson . DISASTER . isee now its time for us minorities to activate plan c.

  1069. satanowesaldavis Says:

    plan c involves putting all white people in concentration camps in wyoming …. ( has anyone actually ever been in wyoming ?) cus plan b has failed . … = impregnate thousands of white women and make a master race of half breeds

  1070. satanowesaldavis Says:

    but i digress.. ha! alwaya wanted to use that … .. so , im smashing this big booty chick at work but she has a boyfriend . .. hold on , this is a raiders blog ? OH!! didnt notice :(

  1071. fat kidd Says:

    smashing a big booty chick at work is not good for productivity unless you were doing it as a stimulus

  1072. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Barack Obama a black president?? I have heard it all now.

    Does he even know one black family member? He was raised by white guys in Kansas for crying out loud. How many black guys do you know who have even been to Indonesia and Hawaii, better yet lived there.

    If Barack was as light as say, Derek jeter, Jason Kidd or Grady Sizemore (guys who are also 50% black) I think he would be viewed a little differently.

    My two cents.

  1073. satanowesaldavis Says:

    her butt is very stimulating ….. uhhh .. just fire baby ? uhhh. he black , get over it already . next yall gone tell me martin luther king was gay … THE MAN just wont let us have sh^t .

  1074. fat kidd Says:

    satanowesaldavis Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    plan c involves putting all white people in concentration camps in wyoming …. ( has anyone actually ever been in wyoming ?) cus plan b has failed . … = impregnate thousands of white women and make a master race of half breeds

    ……………………….white people plan a place nuclear devices in every state except wyoming.boom!!!!!!!

  1075. fat kidd Says:

    satanowesaldavis Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:09 pm
    but i digress.. ha! alwaya wanted to use that … .. so , im smashing this big booty chick at work but she has a boyfriend . .. hold on , this is a raiders blog ? OH!! didnt notice

    ………………..but i digress =you dont use that on a raiders blog /thats like tailgating and cooking ostrich burgers /thats a bird not a burger.

  1076. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I was thinking of this thing about Jason Campbell being the top-rated QB in the red zone last year. That seems pretty impressive. I believe he had 18 TD’s and zero turnovers. Again very impressive.

    Until you realize that, those numbers mean when he was on the other 80 yards (most of the time) he had 2 TD’s and 19 turnovers!!!! Yikes!!

    Maybe we can have Bruce manage the game until we get ready to score and than we can bring in our red zone wiz kid.

  1077. fat kidd Says:

    Idk how many of you have seen this video, but it’s so dope!! needs to be shown here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s9_FYC5lMM&NR=1

  1078. fat kidd Says:

    Don Coryell, NFL Coaching Legend, Dies at Age 85
    7/01/2010 9:30 PM ET By Nancy Gay
    Nancy Gay
    Senior NFL Writer
    Don Coryell, the legendary St. Louis Cardinals and San Diego Chargers head coach and architect of one of the greatest passing games in NFL history, died Thursday afternoon following a lengthy illness. He was 85.
    Coryell’s family told the Chargers organization that he died at 3:15 p.m. PDT at Sharp Grossmont Hospital in La Mesa, Calif., in East San Diego County. He had been suffering from pneumonia and complications from that illness since last fall.
    “He was an atypical coach,” Fouts told FanHouse Thursday evening.. “A lot of football coaches believe it’s my way or get on the highway-thing. But Don gave us as players a feeling of ownership of the offense, the plays. He took our ideas and tried them. He wasn’t afraid to try things.”
    In Coryell’s offense, Fouts rarely threw out of the shotgun and played a modified, timed version of the hugely successful Bill Walsh “West Coast offense” high percentage passing attack. The late Walsh – another Hall of Famer who pushed hard for Coryell’s place in Canton – had planted the seeds of the West Coast offense in San Diego in 1976, where he had served as offensive coordinator under Tommy Protho.
    “When Don came to San Diego in midseason (1978), he didn’t change hardly anything that offense was about at the time,” Fouts said. “He added a few things. Then when he took over full time the next year, he kept the best things from what we were doing, and those were the Bill Walsh things.
    Dean Spanos said Thursday, “We are terribly saddened by the passing of Coach Coryell. He revolutionized the game of football, not only in San Diego , but throughout the entire NFL. Don Coryell was a legend not only with the Chargers but throughout San Diego . Though unfortunately he did not live long enough to see it, hopefully one day his bust will find its proper place in Pro Football’s Hall of Fame. He will be missed.”
    Coryell coached 12 seasons at San Diego State, compiling a record of 103-19-2 before moving on to the NFL, where he won two division titles with the St. Louis Cardinals in 1974-75. He coached 14 seasons in the NFL, with a career record of 111-83-1.

  1079. MistaBrown Says:

    This makes as much sense as slobbering over a libtard like Hillary Clinton while disliking 0ilbama. Hillary is just slightly less socialistic than purple lips, almost identical left wing nut jobs.

    Having a 2 Qb system is about the dumbest thing I read here since tj looked @ still photos.
    ____

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Maybe we can have Bruce manage the game until we get ready to score and than we can bring in our red zone wiz kid.

  1080. MistaBrown Says:

    At least this moron has the balls to “keep it real”

    ___

    # satanowesaldavis Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    why i dont care if obama fails at everything he does ++=

    cus hes the first black president

  1081. fat kidd Says:

    Congressional Baseball Team members are introduced at the start of the Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park in Washington DC on Tuesday, June 29, 2010. The game was tied until the last inning when the Democrats scored nine runs. The Republicans could answer with only one additional run, leaving the final score 13-5.beat them again.

  1082. MistaBrown Says:

    Here Dems want to expand on the deficit yet again while Rep’s want to use money from the stimulus that hasn’t been spent yet!

    hope & change
    ___________________________________

    As a result, more than 2.1 million people are expected to have lost their unemployment benefits by the time legislators reconvene on July 12.

    House Democrats have struggled to get support from Republicans, who oppose the extension because it adds to the nation’s $1.4 trillion deficit.

  1083. MistaBrown Says:

    J Campbell & the Oak Raiders got sum luv on NFL live today.
    JaMarcus Bobama (Black Moses) is the antithesis of addition by subtraction.

  1084. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, give us your best definition of socialism.

  1085. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, I’m not your stooge take your lazy a$$ to google and see for yourself.

    FK’n goon

  1086. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I already know what it is. I just want to see if you know. Because I don’t think you do.

  1087. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    If you want to think I don’t know what socialism is I’m quite content letting you believe that and more importantly I’m not going to play your game of changing the argument when you get made a fool of.

    On occasion I do play along with your horse sh!t but not right now..

  1088. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    Speaking of fools (besides you) have you seen Fl Pete?

    He told me 60 days ago Barback Bobama was doing all he could on the 0ilbama spill. Now that WE all know that was not the case 2 months later I just wanted to say hello to the old fool.

  1089. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I don’t think you know what socialism is because you’ve never described it in any way, you just throw the term around, as if you overhear people calling people socialists and repeat what the say. That’s why I want to know if you actually know what the word means. So far, I’ve seen no indication that you do. If you don’t, it’s cool. You wouldn’t be the first bumpkin with a room temperature IQ running around calling someone a socialist without having any clue what the word means. In fact, you’d be part of a widespread cult across rural America today. But don’t try to lie and pretend you know what it means. It’s obvious you don’t.

  1090. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What do you think Obama should do about the oil spill, MB?

  1091. MistaBrown Says:

    MR, the comment below from N Pelosi should be enough to make any human being run like hell from the Dem party.

    Unemployment benefits are a job creator??????
    ____________________________________________________

    On employment extensions:

    “It injects demand into the economy,” Pelosi said, arguing that when families have money to spend it keeps the economy churning. “It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name.”

  1092. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Why do you single out the Democratic Party? Should people not run from the Republican party?

  1093. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, it’s obvious you have no solutions. This is why the Republicans are called the party of “no”. Is that going to be the Republican platform this year and in ‘12? No solution? Good luck with that.

  1094. MistaBrown Says:

    MR,
    Here are some solutions:
    -seal the border
    -deport any illegals (including ones in jail)
    -Overturn HC
    -Give military the force to win the war & go home
    -Stop bailouts
    -Shrink the size of Govt

  1095. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Seal what border? And why? We have two borders.

    Deporting any illegals is costly. Your last solution is to shrink the size of government. Could you imagine the type of police force we would need to deport any and every illegal immigrant? It would be impossible to enact such a plan AND shrink the size of government. Already, you’re unrealistic.

    Overturn HC (health care bill, I assume?)? What’s your alternative solution? Overturning something is not a solution in and of itself. There has to be an alternative plan.

    What would be your definition of winning the war? Ridding the world of terrorism? Don’t think it’s possible. And it too would fly in the face of your solution to shrink government, because we would basically have to draft the entire country to achieve that goal. We’ve used carrots and sticks to deal with sovereign states who’ve killed and maimed, we have no choice but to use the same strategy with terrorism. It’s based on practicality. If you’ve got the money to build an army that would kill every terrorist world wide, feel free to call the president and tell him.

    stop bailouts…I agree. But it’s interesting you never talk about that, considering how much of your tax dollars go toward them.

  1096. Seymour Bush Says:

    You know, if you have to steal my shi* to get over on me whether it’s my tag, or my id, or my stuff, if you have to steal to get over, fukk you.

  1097. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Hey Oakdork…can you explain why you TWICE quoted the “melt down”
    ================================================

    Yeah, I can explain that. If it takes 5 of you to take one of me, there’s some overlap. That explains that. The thing is you’re not Raiders. I am. That also explains that. Fukk you on that as well.

  1098. Seymour Bush Says:

    And BTW, you can all also have the Seymour Bush name. If someone has to hack it, they can have it. It’s yours. I officially don’t want it anymore. Who am I now?

  1099. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Hey Oakdork…can you explain why you TWICE quoted the “melt down”
    ================================================

    Yeah, I can explain that. If it takes 5 of you to take one of me, there’s some overlap. That explains that. The thing is you’re not Raiders. I am. That also explains that. Fukk you on that as well.
    ==================
    What you mean is you’re a freaking moron, and can’t follow the dots.
    Old man..you didn’t do it once, YOU WENT AND COPIED IT TWICE, you dumbass.

    And yes, LMFAO at the “it takes 5 of you”..you laid there in the fetal position, backtracking like a fool. Everytime you posted something, you had posters laughing at you.
    You finally left with tail between legs, like the POS you are.

  1100. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I think Arizona’s immigration law was designed to divide the country, anyway. They know it’s impossible to enforce. And let common criminals start to clue in the police changing their priorities to target immigration, and figure out ways to exploit it.

  1101. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    You know, if you have to steal my shi* to get over on me whether it’s my tag, or my id, or my stuff, if you have to steal to get over, fukk you.
    =======================
    awwww…does the widdle baby need a crying towel? Shut the hell up, you cross posting POS..you perfected the stealing of handles, and using them. Hell, you and MR would infest whole threads with the two of you taking turns posting as each other..and now you’re crying like a child?

    Typical

  1102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, when is the last good day you had?

  1103. Seymour Bush Says:

    Hey wack job, have you been waiting all nite for me? Well, you got me.

  1104. Richochet Says:

    Hey MR..how was work today??

    Oh…my bad.

    Well, how was eating and sitting on your fatass all day?

  1105. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    =======================
    awwww…does the widdle baby need a crying towel? Shut the hell up, you cross posting POS..you perfected the stealing of handles, and using them.\

    ===================================================

    Wack job, whose handle have I stole? Tell me. Or are you lying again.

  1106. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky job, you are a pathological liar. What that means is you can’t help yourself. You are JUST LIAR. It’s what you are. By definition. Care to debate?

  1107. Seymour Bush Says:

    Come on Liar, there are a bunch of issues on the floor right now about youyr lying. what are you doing? Calling all the othe trolls? Is that where you are right now? Calling the OTHER trolls?

  1108. Seymour Bush Says:

    See, this defines wacky sheeit. Notice how wacky posts, but then, he will evaporate for a while, and then ALL THE TROLLS somehow show up. Some that can hack my name. And complete IDIOTS like Raider Rockstar fall for it.

  1109. Seymour Bush Says:

    Come on Wacky sheeit. You just posted! Where are the OTHER TROLLS?

  1110. Seymour Bush Says:

    Come on Wacky. Where are you? Scared?

  1111. Seymour Bush Says:

    That’s the best part of Wacky and his trolls. Calling others cowards.

  1112. Richochet Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Richochet, when is the last good day you had?
    ============================
    Let’s put it this way..I have more good days in a month than you have in a year.
    You have nothing.
    What do you equate a good day with?
    seriously? You know you WON’T ANSWER, but it’s too painful too.
    You have nothing..at all..except to fantasize about your cousins, aunts and nieces.
    Can you even remember having a good day?

    Here, let me help you with the obvious
    MR: “I’ll have a great day when Al steps down”…

    what else could you say?

  1113. Seymour Bush Says:

    Yooohoooooo, Wacky we are waiting for you.

  1114. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky, you’re here!!! Good to see you! Whose handle have I stole wacky, tell me.

  1115. Seymour Bush Says:

    Come on wacky. Whose handle have I stole? Tell me POS.

  1116. Richochet Says:

    Hey..you want to cop to the fact you’re an idiot, and a fool, on the following?
    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?
    =========================

    See, this is exactly what I am talking about. We have been over this and over this and over this and over this. The point that you are making is Holmgren RUSHED IN, and in two weeks just decided he was keeping Mangini and Ryan. On a whim. Because he had to make a quick decision and he had spent the prior three weeks TROLLING on a Pittsburgh Steeler site. So he just opted to keep the staff. That’s your point right?
    ========================
    NO, THAT’S NOT THE POINT I WAS MAKING, AND DON’T EVEN TRY THAT WEAKASS SPIN.
    YOU commented to others how Holmgren, AFTER 4 MONTHS OF REVIEWING THE STAFF, decided to keep Ryan.

    I called you on it. Said you are WRONG. Said his exact words were in didn’t think it right to fire a HC and his staff, after just one year, and was not making any changes AT THIS POINT..and that was NOT 4 months, as you stated, but less than 3 weeks.

    YOU CALLED ME A LIAR. YOU CHALLENGED ME FOR LINKS.

    Now? Now you want to backtrack and say ‘oh, what do you think he did for 3 weeks”??

    Either you lied, or you’re stupid,. In both instances, you’re a coward, and you have zero credibility.

  1117. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    you perfected the stealing of handles,
    ===================================================

    I perfected the stealing of handles…..

    You wouldn’t mind elaborating on this statement. Instead of hiding under your kids bed would you?

  1118. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky, wacky, wacky, NO ONE here wants your life story. Just prove your statement in #1117. I’ll wait.

  1119. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    And BTW, you can all also have the Seymour Bush name. If someone has to hack it, they can have it. It’s yours. I officially don’t want it anymore. Who am I now?
    ——————————-
    You’re pretty weak, MR…can’t even copy his dumbass effectively.

  1120. Seymour Bush Says:

    wacky wacky wacky, what your idiotic take in post, #1116 states that we have gone over A MILLION TIMES, basically what your argumement is, is Holmgren signed on to the entire Cleveland Browns coaching staff, without EVER reviewing ANYTHING!! He never revierwwed their work right? Well, hang on, we can contact Holmgren tomorrow and see if that is right. Are you OK with that?

  1121. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    You’re pretty weak, MR…can’t even copy his dumbass effectively
    ===============================================

    Wacky are you calling ME MR?? Wacky, wacky, wacky, take a sedative. I mean take a strong sedative. Because you are about to take a BEATING.

  1122. Richochet Says:

    No no…the question was put to you about the following.
    Where’s the answer?

    Hey..you want to cop to the fact you’re an idiot, and a fool, on the following?
    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Richo: WRONG, MORON. Holmgren was hired Dec 22. On JAN 7TH HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS BRINGING BACK MANGINI, AND HIS COMPLETE STAFF
    ============================================

    We ALREADY went over this a dozen times you MORON. What do you think Holmgren did for three weeks contemplating the job? You think he might have looked at just a few seconds of game film? Or do you think he did what YOU would do and spend his time trolling on the internet?
    =========================

    See, this is exactly what I am talking about. We have been over this and over this and over this and over this. The point that you are making is Holmgren RUSHED IN, and in two weeks just decided he was keeping Mangini and Ryan. On a whim. Because he had to make a quick decision and he had spent the prior three weeks TROLLING on a Pittsburgh Steeler site. So he just opted to keep the staff. That’s your point right?
    ========================
    NO, THAT’S NOT THE POINT I WAS MAKING, AND DON’T EVEN TRY THAT WEAKASS SPIN.
    YOU commented to others how Holmgren, AFTER 4 MONTHS OF REVIEWING THE STAFF, decided to keep Ryan.

    I called you on it. Said you are WRONG. Said his exact words were in didn’t think it right to fire a HC and his staff, after just one year, and was not making any changes AT THIS POINT..and that was NOT 4 months, as you stated, but less than 3 weeks.

    YOU CALLED ME A LIAR. YOU CHALLENGED ME FOR LINKS.

    Now? Now you want to backtrack and say ‘oh, what do you think he did for 3 weeks”??

    Either you lied, or you’re stupid,. In both instances, you’re a coward, and you have zero credibility.

  1123. Seymour Bush Says:

    OK wacky, you have insulted me, you have slandered me, and now you are calling me MaddenRaider. Are you OK? We can call 911 for you. You might want to take that option right now.

  1124. Richochet Says:

    I’m sorry, I missed your answer to the following:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    June 28th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
    “This idiotic comment ranks up with your “Gruden flipping Al off from the field” lunacy!”
    ============================================
    LMFAO…uh…moron?

    THAT EXCHANGE REGARDING GRUDEN FLIPPING OFF AL IN HIS BOX, (which other posters here verified as having read) was between ME AND OAKGLENN, LOOOONG TIME AGO…loooooong before “Seymour Bush” came on these boards.
    Was just between me and Oakglenn.

    Gosh…uh…”Seymour Bush”??
    Uh..how would you…you know…know about that exchange, considering…well, you know, that you weren’t on this board back then?

    Any…”explanations” how “Seymour Bush” would know about an exchange between Oakglen and myself?

    lol…oh..I’ll KEEP asking until you cop to it, Old man.

  1125. Seymour Bush Says:

    Go to post #1120 wacky. You are already behind.

  1126. Richochet Says:

    Seymour? How is it you know EXACTLY the differences between Debo and you? Isn’t it “odd” that someone could just quickly rattle off the differences? Why would anyone even note that?
    Unless, of course, they just happen to be…..lol…well..you know.
    ==============
    · Seymour Bush Says:
    May 10th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
    # MistaBrown Says:
    May 10th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
    Seymour, do you want to talk about lies?
    How many aliases do you have ?
    ============================================
    None. In fact if you had half a brain you could tell. You say I am debo. Debo is fine with Stanford Routt. Debo is fine with Kiffin. I think routt should be cut ASAP. I never liked kiffin. It’s ridiculous that you would even think that, but again, your cranial capacity is quite limited. So, just throwing around lies is easier. Isn’t it?

  1127. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky, wacky, wacky, wacky, now you are on to the Oakglen thing again. Wacky, try to stay focused wacky. Try. Try!!!

  1128. Seymour Bush Says:

    Are you now onto the Debo thing wacky?? I have told you a million times I am NOT Debo. But you won’t believe it. I am not Debo wacky. How can I prove it wacky? Tell me.

  1129. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    Actually Daze, I saw both Unitas and Elway play many times with my own eyes. Elway was the best QB I ever saw. hate to say it but it’s true. If he had the Pro Bowlers and Hall of Famers Montana had, he would have won 6-8 Super Bowls.
    ================
    I missed your answer..how old are you again?

  1130. Seymour Bush Says:

    Right now wacky you are melting down like a snowman. You don’t stay on topic, you bounce like a ball. What can we do to get you to focus wacky? Can we get you some ridilin?

  1131. Seymour Bush Says:

    Will ridilin work wacky?

  1132. Seymour Bush Says:

    Focus wacky, FOCUS!!!! FOCUS!!!

  1133. Seymour Bush Says:

    FOCUS WACKY!!!! PLEASE TRY TO FOCUS!

  1134. Richochet Says:

    Really, lol…how is it a NEW poster can quote comments from me from over a year before that NEW poster signed on?

    Oh..wait..you stated that you follow me?
    That it? that you went to the archives and read all up about me? Memorized what I said so you could quote me? WHEN YOU SUPPOSEDLY WEREN’T EVEN HERE THEN?

    Is that what you’re saying? You’re my groupy?

  1135. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    ========================================

    Wacky it is 2010. Soon to be 2011. I am Seymour Bush. You are posting Oakglenn posts from 2008. FOCUS WACKY, FOOOOOCCCCUUUSSSSSSS!!!

  1136. Richochet Says:

    Simple stuff, POS crossposter…old questions unanswered.

    Can’t move on until the past is cleared up.

    Simple math.

    Put old business away.

    Now…how old again, Old man?

  1137. Seymour Bush Says:

    FOCUS WACKY! FOCUS!!!!

  1138. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky you are posting stuff from 2008. ‘Are you OK? Really are you OK? Or has this Oakglen guy efffed you up since -08?

  1139. Seymour Bush Says:

    Earth to wacky. Earth to wacky. Are you out there wqacky?

  1140. Seymour Bush Says:

    Houston, wacky is gone.

  1141. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Richochet Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    ========================================

    Wacky it is 2010. Soon to be 2011. I am Seymour Bush. You are posting Oakglenn posts from 2008. FOCUS WACKY, FOOOOOCCCCUUUSSSSSSS!!!
    ================
    Soon to be 2011??? WTF?? Really? “soon”??? It’s the beginning of July, you dumbass.

    What’s the matter, MR? hard to go back and forth?

    Try it..come on..you can do it.

  1142. Seymour Bush Says:

    wacky is lost in space

  1143. Seymour Bush Says:

    Now I am MR again wacky? Danger Will Robinson!!!

  1144. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky there are 500 questions on the table you haven’t answered? Am I Madden RAider? Are you on Ridilin? Do you NEED ridilin?

  1145. Seymour Bush Says:

    FOCUS WACKY, FOCCCCCUUUUSSSSSSS!

  1146. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Yooohoooooo, Wacky we are waiting for you.
    ====================
    lol…who’s “we”? MR and MR, or MR and Oakdork?

  1147. Seymour Bush Says:

    Get some Ridilin and FOCUS! At least now we know why he constantly calls his TROLLS to back him up.

  1148. Richochet Says:

    Where did “MR” go? lol…you dumbass…you should have kept posting as both instead of making it so obvious, you sorry fat mama’s boy.

  1149. Richochet Says:

    Oh MR..so YOU tell me how old do you think Oakdork is.

    I say 65

  1150. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
    ====================
    lol…who’s “we”?
    =========================================

    oh come on wacky. It’s your fan club! You know, you and Raider Rockstar the hick from hicktown.

  1151. Richochet Says:

    You’re so freaking stupid MR…embarrassed you’re of the same species.

  1152. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Richochet Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
    ====================
    lol…who’s “we”?
    =========================================

    oh come on wacky. It’s your fan club! You know, you and Raider Rockstar the hick from hicktown.
    =====================
    You dumbass…go read it again.

  1153. Seymour Bush Says:

    Did you just DOSE on Ridilin wacky? Good. Now there are a bunch of questions for you;

    Why do you think I am MR?

    Why do you think I am Debo?

    Do you REALLY think Holmgren signed onto Mangini and Ryan without reviewing either of their work?

  1154. Richochet Says:

    So, how’s it feel dreaming about your niece?

  1155. Seymour Bush Says:

    How have I perfected stealing handles? Come on Wacky. Tell me.

  1156. Richochet Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Did you just DOSE on Ridilin wacky? Good. Now there are a bunch of questions for you;

    Why do you think I am MR?

    Why do you think I am Debo?

    Do you REALLY think Holmgren signed onto Mangini and Ryan without reviewing either of their work?
    ====================================
    Geez MR…you’re so damn pathetic..not to mention stupid.

    Yeah..NO ONE can figure out it’s you, you dumbass.

  1157. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky, wacky, wacky, you keep asking questions about MR. Are you OK? Really. Are you OK?

  1158. Seymour Bush Says:

    Wacky, wacky, wacky, I am NOT MR. You have LOST your mind. Nurse. Nurse….

  1159. Seymour Bush Says:

    Nurse……Nuuuuuuurrrsssseee….

  1160. Seymour Bush Says:

    Nurse the patient in bed #1156 has lost his mind.

  1161. Richochet Says:

    See, you ignorant cross posting sorry POS..when you started cross posting earlier, you also stated then “you want me, you got me”..now?
    You stupidly post the same comment.
    Dead give away, you cowardly fat POS.

  1162. Seymour Bush Says:

    Surrre. Wacky. Suuuure.

    Nurse, give him a triple dose of lithium. And make sure he doesn’t choke on his own bile.

  1163. Seymour Bush Says:

    Oh and BTW, I stood up to your five troll friends earlier. Cowardly is having to have five trolls come in a join your lame BS. And I have very very very little body at on me. Any other lies you want to spew?

  1164. Seymour Bush Says:

    Where’d he go?

  1165. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    March 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    Mommy!!!!! Oakglen beat me up!!!
    —————————————-

    Oh that’s where he went.

  1166. Seymour Bush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    May 1st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Davis was a great pick by the Niners

  1167. Seymour Bush Says:

    Fukk that idiot coward

  1168. fat kidd Says:

    Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis is more responsible for the modern-day NFL than anyone else alive in the country. He is, without a doubt, the single greatest living influence in the NFL.

  1169. LT DAN Says:

    Good morning/Afternoon Nation. Man great conversation yall had earlier.

  1170. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t know about that, Fat Kid. It would seem to me that old NFL guard won the war. Look at the NFL today. It’s everything the old NFL’ers stood for. The league is built around the white hero. Black players are considered thugs. The big NFC teams get way too much press. Philadelphia gets just as much press as New England and The Eagles are yet to win a Super Bowl. Sure the AFC has dominated on the field but when it comes to the overall culture of the league, it’s still an NFL/NFC world. The AFL/AFC philosophy brought on by the likes of Al, the Rooneys, Art Modell, et al is considered rogue and half hazard by the NFL/NFC and their puppets in the press, who all but control the marketing of the game. Santana Holmes made the greatest catch in SB history two years ago and it’s entirely forgotten now for all intents and purposes. The one lone exception you could think of is the New England PAtriots, but aside from my Philadelphia example earlier, face it, could the PAtriots be any more like an NFC team? They might as well be in the conference. They don’t play AFC football. They win with finesse and carry themselves with an elite swagger. Not AFL/AFC like. When the Raiders won their 3rd Super Bowl they still viewed themselves as ghetto f’n bad asses, put on earth to destroy anything in a Redskins or 49er uniform. Al Davis may be to credit for the merger, but he is not to credit for the modern day league. Its standards existed before Al and will exist long after them. Perhaps the AFL never should have settled for a merger but then they’d likely not exist today. Welcome to American capitalism.

  1171. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Guy could lose a lot of weight jumping over all these idiotic Seymour/Richochet posts.

  1172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    OAKLAND (CBS 5 / AP) ― The Golden State Warriors have extended qualifying offers to Anthony Morrow and C.J. Watson, making both guards restricted free agents.

    The Warriors made the moves Wednesday, giving themselves the right to match any offer sheet signed by either player.

    Morrow’s offer is worth $1.029 million for next season, while Watson’s offer is for $1.25 million.

    Morrow averaged 13 points and 3.8 rebounds in 69 games with Golden State last season, making 37 starts. He was fifth in the NBA in 3-point percentage, making 45.6 percent.

    Watson averaged 10.3 points and 2.8 assists in 65 games, including 15 starts.

    The Warriors didn’t make qualifying offers to forward Anthony Tolliver and center Chris Hunter. Both are unrestricted free agents.

  1173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It’s your fan club! You know, you and Raider Rockstar the hick from hicktown.

    ***

    LOL!

    SeyGlenn: speaking of “fan clubs”, we all know you’re in the Rob Ryan fan club. give me your predictions for his Cleveland Browns run defense next year

    (here come the insults… and probably an attempt to change the subject)

  1174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Notice how wacky posts, but then, he will evaporate for a while, and then ALL THE TROLLS somehow show up. Some that can hack my name. And complete IDIOTS like Raider Rockstar fall for it.

    ***

    SeyGlenn: so let me get this straight. Rich stole your handle and posted those 500-600 posts about Rob Ryan being a great Def. Coordinator ???

    holy cow. the hole you’ve dug just getting deeper! just own up to it man. quit making excuses.

    Rob Ryan is a terrible DC. true or false?

    (here come the insults… and probably an attempt to change the subject)

  1175. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You need some more troops. I’ll wait. Lap Dog, richochet, RR, plunkethead, mistabrOwn. This IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL. You gotta do better than this. Find some GOOD posters. I’ll wait.

    ***

    SeyGlenn: so pretty much anybody that calls you on your BS is a “BOTTOM OF THE BARREL” poster? I asked you to back up your claim on Rob Ryan, which you refused to do. If that takes me off of your GOOD POSTER list, so be it

  1176. MistaBrown Says:

    CJ Watson I like. A Morrow is a streaky shooter that handles the ball miserably, poor passer, low BB IQ

  1177. Plunketthead Says:

    Dutchslavers 5
    Carnivaltime 1

    Operasnakes 5
    dopesmokers 1

  1178. Plunketthead Says:

    Morning rockstar

    Starting work early?

  1179. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Watson is a shoot first PG who doesn’t play a lick of defense.

    Morrow is a dead-on shooter. At least he does one thing reallly well.

    And no offer to Tolliver? If Nellie would play him at the 3 instead of the 4, I think he can produce. He can shoot, he rebounds and gets after it.

  1180. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MB,

    Not usre if you ever heard of sarcasm, but I wasn’t serious about the 2 QB thing. Just shedding light on those numbers.

  1181. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Rockstar, JFB, LT DAN, Plunkett and MistaBrown…
    Its Friday on the verge of a 3 day weekend!!!

  1182. hwnrdr Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 am
    Guy could lose a lot of weight jumping over all these idiotic Seymour/Richochet posts.
    ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  1183. MistaBrown Says:

    Morrow is a dead on shooter when he is hot. Which occurs about 1 out of every 6 games. The other 5 games he puts up 6 points but turns the ball over, doesn’t play def, if he puts the ball on the floor he gets his pocket picked. One demensional player with ZERO upside.

    I’ll take CJ any day of the week. Tolliver should have been kept. Azubuke’s injury is the only reason Morrow saw the floor as much as he did.

  1184. MistaBrown Says:

    JFB,
    Guess you didn’t like my post, too bad. You know I exercise sarcasm on a reg basis here so I assume you were being “sarcastic” when you asked if I heard of sarcasm.

  1185. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Marcus Vick said he heard rumors about the possible shooter and heard stories about Phillips’ behavior. “A couple of the people I was talking to said he was intoxicated and high and drunk. So when people are in those kind of conditions, you never know what they are going to say to other folks in the area to cause a shooting,” Vick said.

    ********************************

    The Vick’s classy as ever. Blame the victim for being shot.

    Glad I never got shot for being high and intoxicated.

  1186. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I was, now your catching on.

    Morrow is one of the best spot-up shooters in the league. Not saying he should see the floor a ton, because he does havee no handle or any quickness to penetrate or play solid D.

    No harm in him being the 9th or 10th guy. A little worried with Watson as the backup PG. That means our starting 1 and 2 (Curry, Ellis) and our backup PG are all pretty crappy defensively.

  1187. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning AM crew!

    Fire Baby, Hwnrdr, Plunk, Brown …

    busy day in Podunk. came in an hour early to wrap up some things (month end close)

  1188. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi Asomugha: JaMarcus Russell didn’t get “the mental part”

    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 1, 2010 4:53 PM ET

    Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha says the reason JaMarcus Russell failed as the team’s quarterback is simple: Russell’s impressive arm didn’t have an impressive head to match.

    “He didn’t progress as quickly as we wanted him to or needed him to,” Asomugha said Thursday on ESPN’s Jim Rome Is Burning. “The mental part of the game, I don’t think, caught on for him as quickly as we needed it to.”

    Asomugha wasn’t ripping Russell so much as he was saying what Russell needs to improve upon if he’s ever going to make it in the NFL. But he made clear that he believes releasing Russell and acquiring Jason Campbell will make a big difference in Oakland.

    “The offseason was great, with us cutting down on certain players,” Asomugha said.

    When Rome asked Asomugha specifically what happened in the offseason to make the team better, Asomugha answered, “The Jason Campbell trade.”

    Still, while Asomugha doesn’t sound like he’ll miss having Russell as a teammate, he does think Russell could have a future in the NFL — if his experience in Oakland motivates him to work harder.

    “It’s a chance to start over again, have that chip on your shoulder and start over again,” Asomugha said. “If that doesn’t fuel you to do much better, then you know there’s a problem.”

    ***

    fatty posted this yesterday (no response)

    what do you guys think ???

    still think the Jets, Cardinals & Vikings are interested?

    what about the UFL?

  1189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    a while back, people (including myself) were accused of being racist for saying that JaMarcus was dumber than a box of rocks …

    now that Nnamdi Asomugha, one of the classiest players in the league has confirmed that, is he racist?

    just curious

    by the way, this is exactly why I call Barack “President JaMarcus” – another accurate assesment

  1190. LT DAN Says:

    He will never play in the nfl again imo. I dont think the has the desire to play anymore to much money to young.

  1191. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “The offseason was great, with us cutting down on certain players,” Asomugha said.

    ***

    plural. Hmmmm (addition by subtraction)

    what other players was N21 referring to?

    Walker, Green, Fargas, Warren?

    I assume it wasn’t Losman, Ellis, Alston or Morrison.

  1192. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think Jamarcus may get a camp invite, but when they realize he has the football IQ of a JV QB, he won’t make the team.

    I said it from the beginning, he will be in the UFL, probably starting, and it will give bettors one last chance to Fire against Jamarcus.

  1193. MistaBrown Says:

    Begin the day
    Wth a friendly voice
    A companion, unobtrusive
    Plays the song that’s so elusive
    And the magic music makes your morning mood

  1194. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If I had to to guess he might have implied Money as one of those “Cuts”.

    Warren was Jamarcus’ closest buddy on the team.

  1195. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gary Russell & John Bowie also got the axe. Oren O’Neal walked after I.R. was lifted

    none of those guys were considered impact players though imo. paid next to nothing

    he said “players” so that excludes Randy Hanson & Dwayne Board

  1196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fire Baby: why does Nnamdi think the trade for Jason Campbell was huge?

    if he thought we could get the same or better production from Bruce Gradkowski, why would he put so much emphasis on JC?

  1197. MistaBrown Says:

    Monta & Curry had a ton of steals. If they didn’t lead the league for tandem guards they were VERY high up. Defense takes all 5 guys working together being able to rotate and float is essential. Im ok with the def of the guards but the team def as a whole is terrible. Under Nelson def is NOT going to flourish.

  1198. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You don’t need real world smarts to play in the NFL, but you do need to put in some work to get NFL smarts.

    Dexter Manley was a badazz D-lineman, and he couldn’t even read or write!!!!

  1199. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Steals can be deceiving. I believe Curry was in the top 10 in steals, but opposing team would often iso him as a denfeder. His instincts help mask just how bad he is defensively.

    Ellis is always looking to get out on the break instead of sealing out for the long rebounds. Very slight for a 2 guard.

    Just the culture in Golden Stae I guess.

  1200. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    Nhamdi is a great player but you almost laugh at any comments he ever gives, always were just around the corner from being great. I’m sure he has said great thinks about Collins,Brooks,Mclown,Japrecious,Grads,Frye and now the Hall of Famer Campbell.

  1201. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 6:26 am
    Fire Baby: why does Nnamdi think the trade for Jason Campbell was huge?

    ****************************

    Because it sealed the fate for Jamarcus.

    Didn’t all our players demand we hire Joe Bugel once as well? Nnamdi won’t be a GM when he retires, lets wait a couple of months until we see guys play.

  1202. MistaBrown Says:

    Steals are decieving in what way? You take away the ball you go down the court and drop an easy 2! Seems like a win/win positive situation to me. It says your guards are playing “defense”, no ?

  1203. Plunketthead Says:

    why does Nnamdi think the trade for Jason Campbell was huge?

    Because Janotmentallyfocused was sent packing because of it?

  1204. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Rockstar…I don’t have any sources to give, but heard that some UFL teams were looking at him and wanting him to start…but his agent said that he will not settle on anything less than an NFL team…wonder if Russell picked the right agent? Poor kid is getting led on by Bob Sugar!

  1205. MistaBrown Says:

    0ilbama said the border is more secure now than its been in 20 years! What world does this buffoon live in and why is he against securing the border?

    Oh yah those illegals that get fast tracked citizenship will be life long Dems.

    hope & change

  1206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Because it sealed the fate for Jamarcus.

    ***

    you don’t think Gradkowski, Frye & Boller would have pushed him off the roster?

    the guy was a disaster JFB!

    his teammates even described his play as a “horror show”

    on paper the 3 above mentioned QB’s doesn’t look like much, but probably good enough to win 8 games with the easy schedule this season

  1207. Plunketthead Says:

    Where is that Nnamdi interview?
    He said something like it was a plus by subtraction

  1208. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Plunk: all I got is that article (above) from PFT

    sorry bro

    I think he was on ‘Rome is Burning’ , right?

  1209. Plunketthead Says:

    ATTENTION STEVE CORKRAN

    You have always done a excellant job replacing our ringmaster scary. So what happened?
    I suspect there are HR problems at the CCT. Nonetheless dont take it out on us.
    We need a new thread.

  1210. RaiderRockstar Says:

    some UFL teams were looking at him and wanting him to start…but his agent said that he will not settle on anything less than an NFL team…wonder if Russell picked the right agent?

    ***

    Hwnrdr: if I remember correctly, Russell seemed pretty content with his play last season when asked about it and then refused a paycut after the season to remain a Raider

    pretty funny that no team in the NFL even wants him as a BACKUP now

  1211. Plunketthead Says:

    Dam I need coffee. I skipped right over it.

    “The offseason was great, with us cutting down on certain players,”

    Thats the remark, although Nnamdi probaly was worried about those knees
    Superman can be defeated with kryptonite and Superbruce has bum knees

  1212. Plunketthead Says:

    Dam that broad looked just like my ex

    shivers went through my spine

  1213. Plunketthead Says:

    Say no to racism
    Wow what a great message
    I hope it works better then just say no to drugs
    Like that will ever happen

  1214. Plunketthead Says:

    What are those little flag things they exchange before the match.

  1215. RaiderRockstar Says:

    plunk: what are you talking about?

    a soccer game? I’m lost

  1216. Plunketthead Says:

    Why the hell is Brazil wearing blue?
    I thought they were green and yellow
    I think they change colors of the unis more often then Jarobitussion works out

  1217. Plunketthead Says:

    Yes RR
    Brazil – Netherlands

    Could be as good as the final game
    Just started

  1218. Plunketthead Says:

    Has everyone seen the superfine Uraguayan model who is gonna parade buttnaked if the Opera lovers win?
    Heres ten pics of her superfine self

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/larissa-riquelme-lingerie_n_629975.html#s108051

  1219. Plunketthead Says:

    Thems real boobies

  1220. Plunketthead Says:

    I ditched work again to be here and theres noone watching?

  1221. Plunketthead Says:

    I take that back. Upon closer examination of all the pics I dont think they are

  1222. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MB,

    Good article in the WSJ the other day about how BO really does not care about amnesty, it is all for show to get votes in a few months. Writer doubted that they will actually go through with suing AZ.

    Showed the four times that an Amnesty or temporary worker bill went on the floor, BO voted aginast it 3 times and was a no vote once. One of the times, he was one of six Dems (out of like 230) to vote against it.

    Just playing politics.

  1223. Plunketthead Says:

    Looks like the dutchboys may not be near as good as the pundits thought

  1224. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My saying, if you can touch them, they are real.

    And she is smoking !!!

  1225. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And lastly, steals are good when you get them, but teririble if you go after them and fail (as the Warriors always do).

    Good defensive teams just stay in front of their man, and crash the boards.

  1226. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/larissa-riquelme-lingerie_n_629975.html#s108051

    I remember when I could make women make them kind of faces.

  1227. Plunketthead Says:

    http://sp4.fotolog.com/photo/4/33/27/musasparaguayas/1253139826169_f.jpg

    Google images has lots of her pics

  1228. Dakota Says:

    Mike Miller to the Lakers? He can nail the 3.

  1229. Plunketthead Says:

    Most gorgeous woman I ever saw was Susan Anton at the Ceasers Palace Grand Prix. All the women dressed to kill for grand prixs. It was middle of the day and she was wearing a high dollar evening gown with all the jewels and make up.
    She stopped to allow pics. I grew up in Vegas and I have seen plenty of fine women but she was stunningly beatiful

  1230. Dakota Says:

    “On that front, it’s time for swingman Mike Miller to live up to his words proclaiming just how much he wants to be a Laker. He not only was telling his hometown South Dakota paper two weeks ago he wanted to be a Laker, he was telling people when the Wizards swung through Staples Center 3 ½ months ago that he wanted to be a Laker.”

    South Dakota to the rescue baby!

  1231. RaiderRockstar Says:

    E-Mail forward I just received:

    One of my sons serves in the military. He is still stateside, here in California . He called me yesterday to let me know how warm and welcoming people were to him and his troops everywhere he goes, telling me how people shake their hands and to thank them for being willing to serve and fight for not only our own freedoms, but so that others may have them also.

    But he also told me about an incident in the grocery store he stopped at yesterday on his way home from the base. He said that ahead of several people in front of him stood a woman dressed in a burkha.

    He said when she got to the cashier she loudly remarked about the U.S.flag lapel pin the cashier wore on her smock. The cashier reached up and touched the pin, and said proudly, ‘Yes, I always wear it and probably always will.’

    The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi.

    A gentleman standing behind my son stepped forward. Putting his arm around my son’s shoulders and nodding towards my son, he said in a calm and gentle voice to the Iraqi woman: ‘Lady, hundreds of thousands of men and women like this young man have fought and died so that YOU could stand here, in MY country and accuse a check-out cashier of bombing YOUR countrymen. It is my belief that had you been this outspoken in YOUR own country, we wouldn’t need to be there today.. But, hey, if you have now learned how to speak out so loudly and clearly, I’ll gladly buy you a ticket and pay your way back to Iraq so you can straighten out the mess in YOUR country that you are obviously here in MY country to avoid.

  1232. hwnrdr Says:

    Rockstar…kudos and applause to that man in the grocerey store…

  1233. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raja Bell > Mike Miller

  1234. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: is there a big Laker fan base in ND & SD or something ???

  1235. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    I was thinking of this thing about Jason Campbell being the top-rated QB in the red zone last year. That seems pretty impressive. I believe he had 18 TD’s and zero turnovers. Again very impressive.

    Until you realize that, those numbers mean when he was on the other 80 yards (most of the time) he had 2 TD’s and 19 turnovers!!!! Yikes!!

    Maybe we can have Bruce manage the game until we get ready to score and than we can bring in our red zone wiz kid.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Thought provoking…

  1236. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gay stays in Memphis. Pierce stays in Boston. Salmons stays with the Bucks. Hill stays with the Suns. Ming stays with Houston

    hopefully this weekend proves to be a little more exciting!

  1237. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
    Dakota: is there a big Laker fan base in ND & SD or something ???
    ++++++

    Phil Jackson went to school in ND. But I know of at least two Lakers’ fans from SD, Mike Miller and myself.

  1238. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Phil Jackson went to school in ND. But I know of at least two Lakers’ fans from SD, Mike Miller and myself.

    ***

    Dakota: so most of the NBA fans root for what team then?

    T’Wolves, Bucks, Bulls?

    Nuggets, Pistons, Pacers seem like the closest teams after that …

  1239. Dakota Says:

    Miller:
    30 years old, 6′8″

    13.7 ppg
    46.4 fg%
    40.5 3pt% (48% last year)
    77.0 FT%
    5.1 rpg
    3.2 apg
    .7 stlspg
    .3 blks per game

    Bell:
    34 years old in sept, 6′5″

    10.3 ppg
    43.5 fg%
    41.1 3pt%
    78.9 FT%
    2.9 rpg
    1.7 apg
    .7 stlspg
    .2 blks per game

    Bell is clearly a better defender, but I would take Miller at 30 years old coming off the bench to spell Kobe and Artest. Both can hit the three, Miller is a more willing passer and a much better rebounder…actually, I want both of them in 2010!

    Gotta go with Miller do to his youth….and we need scoring off the bench.

  1240. RaiderRockstar Says:

    from a geographical standpoint, anyways

  1241. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am

    Phil Jackson went to school in ND. But I know of at least two Lakers’ fans from SD, Mike Miller and myself.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Any other DMAC fans?

  1242. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Phil Jackson went to school in ND. But I know of at least two Lakers’ fans from SD, Mike Miller and myself.

    ***

    Dakota: so most of the NBA fans root for what team then?

    T’Wolves, Bucks, Bulls?

    Nuggets, Pistons, Pacers seem like the closest teams after that
    ++++++++++++++

    Not a lot of NBA fans….mostly just NFL (Vikes and Broncos) and college football fans (Nebraska)…but those that are NBA fans are Nuggs and Twolves fans.

  1243. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Miller cannot play Kobe’s 2 position. He would get burnt by any decent team. Plus, Miller is a weak rebounder. Bell would make us tougher, Miller would make us softer.

    In other words, our regular season record would be better with Miller but our playoff team would be better with Bell.

  1244. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: did you read this?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409119-could-darren-mcfadden-be-another-oj-simpson

  1245. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not a lot of NBA fans….mostly just NFL (Vikes and Broncos) and college football fans (Nebraska)…but those that are NBA fans are Nuggs and Twolves fans.

    ***

    So as a Raiders/Lakers fan I’m guessing you get along pretty well with the Vikings/T’Wolves crowd, but not so much the Broncos/Nuggets crowd … right ???

  1246. RaiderRockstar Says:

    college football is big around these parts too, moreso than NFL.

    Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma & Nebraska fans everywhere

    I don’t watch college ball …

    Chiefs & Rams both suck so they don’t say jack when I wear my Raiders gear around

  1247. LT DAN Says:

    I hate that crap RR. Will he be come her soon?

  1248. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up Dan?

    is who coming where soon?

  1249. LT DAN Says:

    Iraq

  1250. Dakota Says:

    There are quite a few Raiders fans around here…mostly native americans…well, at least they wear the gear, but most of them couldn’t name 10 players on the team.

  1251. LT DAN Says:

    I noticed in your post before that your son was still statside. Sounded like he was deploying in the future. I was the maybe Iraq. Prob shouldnt ask those questions here anyway. Sorry

  1252. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
    Dakota: did you read this?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409119-could-darren-mcfadden-be-another-oj-simpson
    +++++++

    No comment.

  1253. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Paul Gutierrez (Sac Bee) hasn’t posted anything since 06/14.

    Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate) hasn’t posted anything since 06/22.

    Steve Corkran (here) hasn’t posted anything since 06/29.

    nice of him to throw us a bone … he’s a week updated on the competition and he’s just filling in for Jerry Mac

    26 days until training camp!

  1254. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Prob shouldnt ask those questions here anyway. Sorry

    ***

    Dan: if I knew, I’d tell ya

    that wasn’t my son man. that was just an e-mail forward somebody sent me

  1255. Raider O Says:

    Good Morning Nation.

    Plunk,

    The weed smoking pimps best the carnival people!

  1256. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: somebody at the bleacher report compared DMAC to O.J. (as a football player) and you have no comment ???

    you’re getting awfully close to the wrong end of that “RUE THE DAY” DMAC list

  1257. LT DAN Says:

    All football media types are on vacation!

  1258. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The weed smoking pimps best the carnival people!

    ***

    Raider O: is this your early Bengals vs. Browns prediction?

  1259. LT DAN Says:

    Roger RR. Well tell your friend GL to his son and to keep his head down and powder dry

  1260. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Comments from the SF Gate Raider blog:

    * the Raiders are checking in on the twenty sixth of July. Camp starts on the twenty seventh.

    * Hay-Bay says “just playing football” well, as far as I’m concerned he better step his game up when the season starts.
    No more free rides for Raider players.

    any thoughts ???

  1261. Raider O Says:

    Yes!!!!
    Brazil lost!!!!!

    Go Argentina!!!

    RR,

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

  1262. Plunketthead Says:

    I would like to see the dopesmokers win just to prove that the USA could easily have been in the final four

    But its hard to root against Larissa parading buttnaked

    my my however since theres naked pics already, I will root for the land of the gangasmokers

  1263. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Brazil is the most un-sportsmanlike team I have seen so far.

    Bunch of jerks, glad they lost. We need to get our soccer ambasador down there to straighten them out.

  1264. Plunketthead Says:

    My thoughts are that DHB will tear it up this year
    Probowl baby!!!

    Best year ever!!

  1265. Plunketthead Says:

    I think its gonna be an all euro final
    Holland vs Germany

  1266. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I most have missed those “flashes” the guys is talking about the last two years.

  1267. Plunketthead Says:

    Argentina is just as bad as Brazil. I tried to speak to them about it but Maradona threatened to whup my arse so I hightailed it out of the

  1268. Raider O Says:

    Most soilders are honorable men & women, but their govt lacks honor and respect!! Stop killng our sons and daughters for your personal agendas!!!

  1269. LT DAN Says:

    I am still not convinced that a WR who is not a natural pass catcher can suddenly learn how to do so in one off season.

  1270. Plunketthead Says:

    Today will be a wonderful start to the weekend if tigger misses the cut

  1271. Plunketthead Says:

    The D of C and its enablers, international bankers have no intention of stopping the war despite the wishes of the American people

  1272. El Tato Says:

    Brazil K.O.

    Thats a surprise, Spain will beat Holland in the final game

  1273. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq?

    ***

    O: parents are proud of thier kids for serving thier country, no matter where they get deployed. it’s not like the kids or parents have a say in the matter. you sign the papers and they’ll put you where the need is

    and please don’t act like only Republicans join the military. BSJ, Kell, N21 and many others are proof thats not the case. and if that were the case it would make the Libs look AWFUL

  1274. Plunketthead Says:

    President Oboma is an African Colonial who has no wishes of stopping the war. Instead he will escalate the war.

    His first action upon becoming P was to sign an EO closing Guatanumo Bay.
    Its still wide open, and pres Jaboma has escalated the war efforts

  1275. El Tato Says:

    I am still not convinced that a WR who is not a natural pass catcher can suddenly learn how to do so in one off season.

    —————————–

    Me too, but it cannot be difficult to do better than last year since last year he was the worst starting WR in the league. He was not a Top-10 talent but everyone had him as a first round talent, I hope he does better this year, we need him to.

  1276. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1) My thoughts are that DHB will tear it up this year

    2) I am still not convinced that a WR who is not a natural pass catcher can suddenly learn how to do so in one off season.

    ***

    Hmmm.. both good points

    I fully expect Heyward-Bey to turn it on this year, but 9 catches and 6 drops in 12 games last year was NOT impressive. can’t blame Dan for being skeptical. can’t blame Plunk for being optimistic after reading about all the progress DHB has made this offseason. high praise from the owner, coaches and players alike – even the media (gasp)!!

  1277. LT DAN Says:

    I am not hating on him ET I hope he tears it up. I thinking the best we can hope for is a james jett type year.

  1278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    wow El Tato. is this your first visit since the draft?

    it’s been a while, how’s it going?

    Agreed with your DHB comments …

  1279. LT DAN Says:

    The media only saw one pratice a week of the OTAs.

  1280. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Hey Oakland fans, you better pony up some cash for a new stadium, or the Raiders are going back to L.A.

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_15423793?nclick_check=1

    “I could not have stayed in L.A. under the conditions that were there. I had to come back to Oakland,” Davis said. “And as L.A. knows, if they can get a stadium, they can knock on the door.”

  1281. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The media only saw one pratice a week of the OTAs.

    ***

    another good point, but do you really think he’d turn it on in front of the cameras and then choke when the pressure is off?

    high praise from the owner, coaches and players alike. they see him every day

  1282. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DHB wil never be a 80+ catch type of receiver. I do think he can be a big-play guy, and a red zone threat.

    My realistic expectations this year, 40 catches, 750 yards, 7 TD’s and still some bad drops. (And don’t forget the great blocking!!)

  1283. LT DAN Says:

    Like I said I hope he kicks butt. He is a RAIDER now. I am just not getting my hopes up.

  1284. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 am
    DHB wil never be a 80+ catch type of receiver. I do think he can be a big-play guy, and a red zone threat.

    My realistic expectations this year, 40 catches, 750 yards, 7 TD’s and still some bad drops. (And don’t forget the great blocking!!)

    ————————–

    Gee, thanks for being such a positive optimist.

    Why don’t you think he will or can be an 80+ catch receiver?

  1285. J Wiggle Says:

    Raja Bell > Mike Miller

    ——————————————————

    Naw suh ….

    Miller at 6′8 is a much better fit for the Lakes than Bell.

    Miller shot 48% from 3 pts last year

    Miller avg 6 boards a game

    Miller can play both guard spots and SF.

    Has he signed yet?!?!?!

    I’d give Bell the minimum though if he’s down for that.

  1286. Plunketthead Says:

    Most wide recievers take two or three years to get used to the pro game. DHB has a year under his belt in which he got plenty of game time experiance. He has a much improved QB tossing him the ball. He has all the qualities you want from a #1 WR except theres the ball catching thing which I feel is overblown and mostly because of inexperiance.

    He may not make the probowl but I am hoping for the above reasons that he will make huge strides this year and next.
    As a fan I will not give up on him just because he went in the first round instead of the second. Most of the year he had a joke of a QB, a well abused Oline, very little help from the #1 and #2 WR on the team which a rookie WR would have had on most other teams.
    Basically a brand new coach last year.
    A WR coach who is not exactly a household name, let alone an experianced WR coach.

    I could go on but the bottom line is DHB will improve, hopefully by a tremendous amount

  1287. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    You espeske English!!!???
    I didn’t say only Reps join the military!! I said “Reps plans”!! Govt plan, soilders act!!
    My cousin is in the army, and he is not a Rep!

  1288. Raider O Says:

    Soldiers*

  1289. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O: no hablo inglés

  1290. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    My cousin joined before the war, but I don’t understand why people join now? Do you want your kid to g fight a personal agenda war in Iraq. I don’t think that qualified as serving your country.

  1291. Plunketthead Says:

    A heck of a lot of young men are signing up because they cant get a job here in the USSA

  1292. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO little pinche cabron!

  1293. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a former Marine, I would agree re: Iraq War. Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies.

  1294. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Miller avg 6 boards a game

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    5.1

  1295. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Most of those guys who are 80, 90, 100 catch WR’s are ones catching short-passes, possession receiver types.

    DHB will always be a big chunk of yardage type of WR. I don’t think he will ever be close to the WR Randy Moss is and Moss hasn’t caught 80 or more passes in half of his seasons.

  1296. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    I agree. They need better jobs, more income, benefits, not a lot of jobs offer that, so they join!

    Save our Kids!!

  1297. RaiderRockstar Says:

    a personal agenda war in Iraq

    ***

    I don’t buy into those liberal conspiracy theories

    if we are there because of a personal issue GWB had with Iraq, President JaMarcus would have those boys re-assigned or brought back home by now, right?

    there is more to it than the American people know or even understand, I would imagine. It’s easy to play armchair political guru without knowing whats going on behind the scenes

  1298. Plunketthead Says:

    Heres the only war the D of C should be worried about

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100702/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

    Our Southern border is a war zone and the D of C has allowed it as well as encouraged it

  1299. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Miller can play both guard spots and SF.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Ludicrous. Show me how Miller could guard Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, Parker, etc.

    Bell? Yep.

  1300. Plunketthead Says:

    Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies.

    How about a pansy chickenhawk President who lies to get into office, then escalates said war?

  1301. LT DAN Says:

    I have to disagree O. Solders who are in OIF or OEF are undoubtly serving there country! Its the citizens of the US who elect our leaders and we have to live with their decisions. So choose wisely!

  1302. Plunketthead Says:

    RR said
    there is more to it than the American people know or even understand, I would imagine

    Thats the bottomline, We have been and are being decieved by everyone in the D of C. If its about oil and keeping the bogeyman from getting it, then we have the right to know that. It sure is not about protecting American citizens as the Constitution gives them the power to do.

    DAM,this place is slowing down again
    PLEASE STEVE

  1303. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mike Miller can’t guard anyone at any position.

    Terrible defender.

  1304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    GWB = Texas Air National Guard for 5 or 6 years

    BO = community organizer

    pansy chickenhawk president = President JaMarcus

  1305. Plunketthead Says:

    San Francisco, California (CNN) — Police are bracing for riots in Oakland, California as a verdict nears in a racially-charged murder trial of a white former police officer accused of killing an unarmed black man.

    On the Oakland Police Department website there are messages from the police chief and Oakland’s mayor warning people to stay calm.

    “We anticipate that regardless of the verdict reached by the jury, demonstrations could occur in downtown Oakland, and potentially throughout the city,” one of the messages said. “We will not tolerate destruction or violence. We live here, and we love Oakland. We understand that the community is grieving, and we are in this together. We will get through this together.”

    Closing arguments are scheduled to conclude Friday in the murder trial of former Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer Johannes Mehserle, said CNN affiliate KTVU reported.
    The jury could begin deliberating late Friday. Mehserle could be found not guilty, guilty of murder or guilty of a lesser offense like manslaughter.

    Mehserle is accused of fatally shooting an unarmed man on a California train platform on New Year’s Day last year.

    Mehserle, who is white, has pleaded not guilty to killing Oscar Grant III, a 22-year-old black man.

    The shooting was captured on a bystander’s cell-phone video camera, widely circulated on the Internet and on news broadcasts, and it spurred several protests and riots in and around Oakland.

    The trial has been moved from Alameda County to Los Angeles due to pre-trial publicity.

    Bay Area Rapid Transit police were called to Oakland’s Fruitvale station January 1, 2009, after passengers complained about fights on a train. Officers pulled several men, including Grant, off the train when it arrived at Fruitvale.

    The video showed Mehserle pulling his gun and fatally shooting Grant in the back as another officer kneeled on the unarmed Grant. Mehserle has said at the trial that he intended to draw and fire his Taser rather than his gun, KTVU reported.

    Mehserle resigned his position a few days after the incident and was later arrested in Nevada. Mehserle was released on a $3 million bond.

    Grant’s family filed a $50 million wrongful death lawsuit against the officers involved in the incident.

    In January, the transit system agreed to pay $1.5 million to settle the suit. The money will provide financial support to Grant’s young da

  1306. Raider O Says:

    GWB is a terrorist!! Send him to Cuba!

  1307. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think he will get manslaughter.

    Wonder if the union paid for a high-priced lawyer for him.

  1308. RaiderRockstar Says:

    to be fair, I don’t blame Barack for not wanting to enlist with Jimmy Carter as President … can’t think of a bigger douche

  1309. Raider O Says:

    DAN,

    I know you are serving your country, so is my cousin, and trust me I’m doing my best to help keep you guys out of useless wars.
    Thank you for what you do. I aptreciate it.
    I don’t appreciate my govt sending you these kind of wars! Damn the evil monkeys!!

  1310. RaiderRockstar Says:

    options:

    1) join the military

    2) go to Occidental College using alcohol, marijuana and cocaine

    guess which one President JaMarcus picked after high school ???

  1311. Plunketthead Says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100702/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

    Kill an old Arizona rancher or a cop or two = no big deal

    But kill one of his majestys own and you will go down and go down hard

  1312. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
    GWB is a terrorist!! Send him to Cuba!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Concur.

    And his Daddy spared him any Vietnam service so he could skate in the “National Guard”. Coke addict cheerleader silver spoon fake texan CSer.

  1313. Raider O Says:

    Bo,

    You were a Marine?! I didn’t know they let Preppies in!

    The OSU > Mich!!!

  1314. RaiderRockstar Says:

    GWB is a terrorist!!

    ***

    I laugh every time I read this kind of stuff

    what do you know about the man, besides what you’ve read about him that some liberal wrote in a book on the “best seller” list?

  1315. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    There was not a draft to dodge for Obama. Bush and Cheney? Completely.

  1316. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My brother joined the Navy after HS, and I went to Chico to do weed, coke and booze.

    I think I got the better end of the deal.

  1317. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You were a Marine?! I didn’t know they let Preppies in!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yes, and they don’t.

  1318. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Only president who is an admitted coke addict is terrorist criminal cheerleader GWB.

  1319. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Barack admitted coke use in his book.

  1320. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    BHO = President of Harvard Law Review.

    GWB = cheerleader at Yale.

    W is probably a closet Larry Craig too. So many Repub “evangelicals” are…

  1321. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Such disgraces to Jesus…

  1322. LT DAN Says:

    Well thanks O. But I am just a National Guardsman and in 3 days Ill be out of Iraq, 6 days back to the states, in 16 days home on the couch and in 26 Ill be looking for Raider training camp updates!

  1323. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:10 am
    Barack admitted coke use in his book.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    “Use” pales next to an admitted multi-year addiction. BO was a teenager, GWB was in his mid 20s too.

  1324. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LT DAN Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:15 am
    Well thanks O. But I am just a National Guardsman and in 3 days Ill be out of Iraq, 6 days back to the states, in 16 days home on the couch and in 26 Ill be looking for Raider training camp updates!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    WTG Dan!

  1325. LT DAN Says:

    Crazy article Plunket. Hard to believe.

  1326. Plunketthead Says:

    Dan

    Thanks for serving

  1327. RaiderRockstar Says:

    GWB has done a terrible job in office the last year or two

    maybe he should finally call it quits!

    I thought the max was 8 years?

    Hmmm…

  1328. Dakota Says:

    Just torched my son in NBA Live 2010 with Mike Miller hitting 6-10 wide open three pointers against the Magic.

    Goooo lakers! Get Miller!

  1329. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BSJ,

    BO was doing it in his twenties as well. His words in his book were that he liked it, but couldn’t afford it.

    I’m betting if he had daddy’s money like W, his issues would have been very parallel.

  1330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Just torched my son in NBA Live 2010 with Mike Miller hitting 6-10 wide open three pointers against the Magic.

    Goooo lakers! Get Miller!

    ***

    LOL :)

    I score 40+ points with Iverson everytime I play NBA Live

    MVP! MVP! MVP!

  1331. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RR,

    Robert Redford said the other day on CNN, that to fix the spill we have to get Cheney out of office.

  1332. LT DAN Says:

    Thanks guys but I didnt mean to turn it into a love me. Lots of people have done what I have done.

  1333. RaiderRockstar Says:

    His words in his book were that he liked it, but couldn’t afford it.

    ***

    JFB: don’t bring out facts! liberals hate that

    please stick with conspiracy theories …

  1334. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
    Just torched my son in NBA Live 2010 with Mike Miller hitting 6-10 wide open three pointers against the Magic.

    Goooo lakers! Get Miller!

    ***

    LOL

    I score 40+ points with Iverson everytime I play NBA Live

    MVP! MVP! MVP!
    +++++++++++++++

    NBA Live 1999 doesn’t count….

  1335. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Robert Redford said the other day on CNN, that to fix the spill we have to get Cheney out of office.

    ***

    are you serious?

    bwahahahaha! typical dem

    when was his last good movie anyways?

    has he made one in the last 20 years?

  1336. J Wiggle Says:

    Miller avg 6 boards a game

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    5.1

    ——————————————————-

    5.1 is his career avg.

    6 bds last year according to nba.com

  1337. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He also admitted that he thought of using heroin (which in drug speak means I did it and didn’t like it).

  1338. LT DAN Says:

    I had to stop playing my son in video games because I cant beat him anymore.

  1339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NBA Live 1999 doesn’t count….

    ***

    we’re talking video games here Dakota

    A.I. might be 35, but he still plays like he’s 25!

  1340. Raider O Says:

    Dan,

    Buy gold, and stay out of trouble for next 3 days.

  1341. J Wiggle Says:

    Mike Miller = 6th man, what do we need Odom for?

    We could trade him for a much better fit as a backup 4/5 for Bynum and Gasol.

    I would trade Odom for Gasol Jr if we get Miller.

  1342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LUNCH!

  1343. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mike Miller is very much like Jamal Crawford.

    When the shot is rolling, he is almost unstoppable. When his shot isn’t failing he is almost worthless.

  1344. Dakota Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Mike Miller = 6th man, what do we need Odom for?

    We could trade him for a much better fit as a backup 4/5 for Bynum and Gasol.

    I would trade Odom for Gasol Jr if we get Miller.
    ___________

    Man, I love that idea! The TANK along side his bro would be AWESOME!

  1345. LT DAN Says:

    I am out cyall

  1346. Dakota Says:

    LT DAN Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
    I had to stop playing my son in video games because I cant beat him anymore.
    ++++++

    My 16 year old gets pissed because I dominate him at all the sports games, and the guitar hero games…but I have been doing this since 1987 baby!

    He did finally break through and beat me at NBA Live 2010 this Summer…pissed me off a little.

    lol

  1347. RaiderRockstar Says:

    has Boston signed Shaq & Iverson yet ???

  1348. Try Cheating Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a former Marine, I would agree re: Iraq War. Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies
    ________________________________

    So Boo, you claim to be a “former Marine?” That is interesting because if you really were a Marine, you would never refer to yourself as a “former Marine.” Marines are always Marines. You lying again? What unit were you in?

  1349. Try Cheating Says:

    BSJ, RMR, SB, you are a lying scumbag!

  1350. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers deny talk of deal with Miller

    - The Lakers are shooting down reports that they offered Wizards free agent swingman Mike Miller a five-year, $30 million offer, telling at least one prominent agent that they have not given Miller an offer or a deadline to accept it. Los Angeles is looking for bench depth after guard Jordan Farmar opted out of his contract, and the 30-year-old Miller is one of the premier shooters available in free agency.

    Reports Thursday said that the Lakers had told Miller he had until midnight Thursday evening to accept the offer, which would be slightly less than the expected mid-level exception for next season.

    NBA.com

  1351. Try Cheating Says:

    BSJ, why don’t you show us the published works of Obumbles while President of the Harvard Law Review? Oh, there is none. As a matter of fact, let us see his collge transcripts like GWB provided. No, Obumbles sealed them. Why did Obumbles give up his law license? Some say he lied on the application. But that too was sealed.

  1352. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up TC?

    hows your friday?

  1353. Dakota Says:

    I am out! Have a nice weekend everyone!

    Gooooo Raiders!

    Gooooo Lakers!

  1354. Try Cheating Says:

    Come on Boo Jackson, tell me about yourself as a former Marine? Waiting

  1355. RaiderRockstar Says:

    enjoy it Dakota. see ya Tuesday

  1356. Try Cheating Says:

    Hey RR, it was good untli I read BSJ, RMR, lying about being a Marine. Otherwise great!

  1357. RaiderRockstar Says:

    TC: MR says he was a marine, too?

    now THAT is funny!

  1358. fat kidd Says:

    How much will you pay to help Raiders build a stadium?
    0 Comment July 2 Oakland Tribune columnist Cam Inman Share Article”The dollar signs are a queasy reminder.

    And they have nothing to do with unemployed NBA star LeBron James, Tiger Woods’ divorce settlement or new Sharks goalie Antero Niittymaki’s purchase price.

    The Oakland Alameda County Coliseum Authority has commissioned a 40-question survey, essentially asking Raider Nation how much it is willing to sell its soul (again) for a new football stadium (but not a shared, renovated one with the A’s).

    The dastardly term “personal seat license” apparently has been reclassified as a “one-time equity membership fee” in the Coliseum-issued survey. Not all seats would command that “1xEMF” dowry, but for some that do, are you willing to pony up: $12,000, $8,000, $5,000, $2,500 or, well, how about two tickets on Southwest to see the Raiders in Los Angeles?

    Cringe. Sigh. Do a spit-take with your Bud Light (a Raiders sponsor).

    But understand this: The Raiders need a new stadium, and fans are going to have to ante up for that dream to come true on the once-sacred soil between Hegenberger & 66th Avenue.

    The 49ers have a head start on their stadium pursuit thanks to last month’s go-ahead from Santa Clara voters. But financing is next on the 49ers’ agenda, and seat licenses will play a critical role, especially if it turns out the 49ers need the Raiders to share that stadium.

    Give the Coliseum folks and the Raiders credit (seriously) for working in harmony to see if Oakland is a feasible NFL site, and if urban redevelopment is possible. If not, perhaps Santa Clara becomes a more digestible option.

    “We believe that the Coliseum site is a tremendous location for a new football stadium, which can anchor an exciting, multiuse urban redevelopment project and provide economic benefits to the entire region,” Raiders chief executive Amy Trask said. “The survey being conducted by the Authority is one component of the Authority’s feasibility study which is designed to assess such a project.”

    Seeking the Raider Nation’s collective credit report is one way, perhaps the only way, to start solving that side of the bay’s stadium crisis.

    Can the Raiders still rally enough support in the wake of the worst seven-year stretch in NFL history, in terms of losing at least 11 games each season and doing so before sparse home crowds?”

  1359. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey fatty,

    it’s time for you to pony up the dough so Al Davis doesn’t have to move the team back to L.A.

    you cool with that?

  1360. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Congrats to Kyle & Carrie Boller … gettin’ hitched today

    woohoo! hooray!

    Kyle Boller = one lucky man

  1361. fat kidd Says:

    then they will have two teams in L.A. cause the vikings are moving there.

  1362. RaiderRockstar Says:

    think he’s looking forward to the honeymoon?

    http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-3/carrie-prejean-3.jpg

  1363. Try Cheating Says:

    RR,

    The RMR, BSJ aliases equals one jag off. He was not a Marine either. There is a reason why he talks politics relentlessly on this blog. He is hoping to garner support for Obama by misleading others. That happened last election but not again.

  1364. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kyle is hating life right about now (sarcasm implied)

    http://www.rowlandmanthorpe.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/carrie-prejean51.jpg

  1365. Try Cheating Says:

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a former Marine, I would agree re: Iraq War. Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies
    ________________________________

    So Boo, you claim to be a “former Marine?” That is interesting because if you really were a Marine, you would never refer to yourself as a “former Marine.” Marines are always Marines. You lying again? What unit were you in?
    _____________________________

    I am sure Richochet will be interested in this Big Whopper!

  1366. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
    Kyle is hating life right about now
    ……………………………she has a nice body but she is a conservative republican ,which means he will have to put duct tape over her mouth!!!!!

  1367. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who was making fun of Kyle for being engaged to this chick? nevermind – probably some loser

    http://www.apakistannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/carrie-prejean-top-less-with-bikini-Copy.jpg

  1368. fat kidd Says:

    tiger woods married a chick with a nice body ,now he is out 800 million.

  1369. fat kidd Says:

    CARRIE PREJEAN has a nice body but nothing upstairs ,she watched four episodes of LASSIE before she figured out why the little hairy kid didnt speak.

  1370. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Kle Boller could have chosen from thousands of equally beautiful women, and he chooses that ignorant hypocrite slut? I would NEVER marry a woman with sex tapes online, but thats just me. She clearly has no morals.

  1371. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    ^Kyle

  1372. RaiderRockstar Says:

    fatty: if Kyle Boller was a liberal dirtbag he wouldn’t be trying to marry Carrie Prejean and she certainly wouldn’t want to marry him!

  1373. severeraiderz Says:

    Kyle Boller has a big mouthed woman and will soon be unemployed……nag central

  1374. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    And I also do not recommend clicking links from apakistaninews.com, especially at work. Thats just me.

  1375. Richochet Says:

    # Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Hey Oakland fans, you better pony up some cash for a new stadium, or the Raiders are going back to L.A.

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_15423793?nclick_check=1

    “I could not have stayed in L.A. under the conditions that were there. I had to come back to Oakland,” Davis said. “And as L.A. knows, if they can get a stadium, they can knock on the door.”
    ============================
    It’s stupid comments like these that keeps shooting the marketing campaign’s in the foot.

    For years, just as the OFMA would start to run their ads, Al would, for some odd reason (many stated it was to thwart marketing, which would help him get out of the lease) Al would make it very clear that “I STILL OWN THE RIGHTS TO LA, AND I CAN MOVE BACK THERE ANYTIME I SO CHOOSE.”..which shot to hell the PSL sales, of course.

    It puts a bad taste in the mouth of county residents, and supervisors, who might consider going out on the limb for an organization that keeps making it clear they’ll leave if they get a phone call.

    Of course, Al has a snowballs chance in hell of having LA call.

    NO ONE in their right mind wants to deal with Al. He’s just gotten too flaky.

  1376. fat kidd Says:

    if kyle boller was a liberal he would be the starter

  1377. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if kyle boller was a liberal he would be the starter

    ***

    LOL! maybe so …

    not sure where Al Davis stands on politics, but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he made the determination of starting QB on something stupid like that.

  1378. Try Cheating Says:

    BSJ talks about morals yet lies about being a Marine! You fluggin liar!

  1379. Try Cheating Says:

    BSJ, come clean ya douche bag!

  1380. Try Cheating Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a former Marine, I would agree re: Iraq War. Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies
    ________________________________

    So Boo, you claim to be a “former Marine?” That is interesting because if you really were a Marine, you would never refer to yourself as a “former Marine.” Marines are always Marines. You lying again? What unit were you in?

  1381. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    if kyle boller was a liberal he would be the starter

    ***

    LOL! maybe so …

    not sure where Al Davis stands on politics, but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he made the determination of starting QB on something stupid like that.

    ……………………..well we know al davis is not a conservative republican they dont eat cold cheeseburgers and kfc colesaw .they eat lobster,caviar,and don p. on our dime.

  1382. Richochet Says:

    # Try Cheating Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Try Cheating Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
    Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Why would any parent want to see their kids go to Iraq? Oil war!! No thank you! My kids life is more important than Reps plans.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a former Marine, I would agree re: Iraq War. Our servicemen deserve more respect than to have their lives sacrificed by a pansy chickenhawk president who started a useless war based on lies
    ________________________________

    So Boo, you claim to be a “former Marine?” That is interesting because if you really were a Marine, you would never refer to yourself as a “former Marine.” Marines are always Marines. You lying again? What unit were you in?
    _____________________________

    I am sure Richochet will be interested in this Big Whopper!
    ======================================
    And why would I ever be interested in your idiot babbles?

    You sit there and get in lengthy exchanges with the board vegetable, FattSlug, where you usually come out on the short end.
    that alone labels you.

    See, anyone can figure out the context of one stating, in a discussion about those CURRENTLY serving, that stating “former Marine” means he is no longer active.

    Again, the fact you need that explained to you is why posters have their way with you.

  1383. severeraiderz Says:

    Of course, Al has a snowballs chance in hell of having LA call.

    NO ONE in their right mind wants to deal with Al. He’s just gotten too flaky.

    ==========================================================

    The Raiders are the most popular team in LA not named USC or Lakers. The team would instantly generate revenue and if there was even a slight improvement in play the season ticket sales would soar

  1384. Try Cheating Says:

    See, anyone can figure out the context of one stating, in a discussion about those CURRENTLY serving, that stating “former Marine” means he is no longer active.

    That’s wrong too, Lic-a-dic. I should have known a puzzy like you would not understand.

  1385. fat kidd Says:

    Minnesota Vikings moving to L.A.?
    By Mark J. Miller
    The Minnesota Vikings want a new stadium. And the team wants one that will likely cost $900 million-plus. In case you haven’t noticed, money is tight for everybody these days and the folks in Minnesota aren’t excited about the idea of shelling out all that dough for a football stadium. The Vikings’ current 30-year lease runs out at the end of 2011 and the team is making it pretty clear it’s not planning on playing one more game than necessary in the Metrodome.

    So the Vikings are apparently starting to use the threat of moving the team to Los Angeles a little more often these days, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, and one wonders if there is a growing truth to the threat.

  1386. Try Cheating Says:

    You just exposed your ignorance, lic-a-dic. See what happens when you go off topic! LOL.

  1387. Try Cheating Says:

    Lic-a-dic. just cut and paste and use the same stale responses. Ya lil’ poodle!

  1388. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How do we not know Boller is a liberal?

    He did go to Berkely, when they were a terrible team.

  1389. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    See, anyone can figure out the context of one stating, in a discussion about those CURRENTLY serving, that stating “former Marine” means he is no longer active.

    Again, the fact you need that explained to you is why posters have their way with you.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1390. Try Cheating Says:

    Richochet Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    See, anyone can figure out the context of one stating, in a discussion about those CURRENTLY serving, that stating “former Marine” means he is no longer active.

    LoL! Somebody please educated lic-a-dic. Stick to cutting and pasting and posting the same old responses.

  1391. fat kidd Says:

    Kyle Boller is a conservative cause he asked the center not to snap the ball so hard!!!

  1392. Try Cheating Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
    See, anyone can figure out the context of one stating, in a discussion about those CURRENTLY serving, that stating “former Marine” means he is no longer active.

    Again, the fact you need that explained to you is why posters have their way with you.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    __________________________

    BSJ, you are laughing? You are a fuggin liar who was exposed. Where did you serve, BSJ? Tell me the units you were with?

  1393. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oh snap! Its the weekend!

  1394. Try Cheating Says:

    BSJ, you don’t have the courage to serve. It is you who is the coward.

  1395. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we know al davis is not a conservative republican they dont eat cold cheeseburgers and kfc colesaw .they eat lobster,caviar,and don p. on our dime.

    ***

    fatty: you can’t be serious

    conservative republicans don’t eat burgers n’ slaw?

    i’ve never had caviar, champagne or lobster in my life

    not big on seafood or alcohol though, either

  1396. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rich is here. how long before SeyGlenn shows up to slurp on him and take some abuse?

    5 minutes? 10?

    Fire Baby: what’s the over/under?

  1397. fat kidd Says:

    Senate to the unemployed: Go to Hell
    Ann Brenoff
    Jul 1st 2010 at 6:36PM More Text SizeAAAFiled under: Recession, In the News

    Dear Unemployed Friends,

    When you’re firing up those barbecue grills this Independence Day weekend, be sure to turn the flame up high in honor of the U.S. Senate, which went on a week-long holiday break without extending jobless benefits to those who have been laid off. Thanks to the senators’ desire to get out of Dodge City and start their vacations early, the more than 1.3 million laid-off workers who have lost their benefits thus far will be joined by another 400,000 by the end of the week — bringing the anticipated total to 3 million people cut off from their financial life support by the end of this month. Somebody, please pass the ketchup.

    The House voted underwhelmingly 270-153 to extend unemployment benefits, but the Senate Republicans successfully filibustered the measure before adjourning for vacation.

  1398. RaiderRockstar Says:

    TC: I don’t really care if a semi pro blogger in here served in the military or not. Has nothing to do with Raiders football

    neither does political preference, but I realize this is the offseason between OTA’s & training camp …

    Liberal = Skank. just call the spade a spade

    if you’re talking politics with one, take that into consideration

  1399. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dear Unemployed Friends,

    go look for a job … quit relying on the government

    thanks

    Senate Republicans

  1400. Try Cheating Says:

    RR, they are skanks, no doubt!

  1401. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Rich is here. how long before SeyGlenn shows up to slurp on him and take some abuse?

    5 minutes? 10?

    Fire Baby: what’s the over/under?
    ====================================
    Now that you posted that, he’s wringing his hands in anguish, knowing he has to wait, lol.

    Hey..let’s take a poll.

    HOW MANY HERE KNOW EXACTLY WHO “TRY CHEATING” really is?

    It’s VERY very obvious. (No, not Oakglen/Seymour, lol)

    That SAME crossposting POS was also posting for a handful of posts yesterday, as Seymour Bush,

    who then came back last night, as Seymour Bush, immediately when I posted (or I should say “switched handles” immediately after I came on)

    The same idiot will post for HOURS under one handle..sign in under the other handle to exchange a few barbs with himself (much like Seymour would do as Debo)and then post for HOURS as his other handle.

    “Try Cheating” is donating his XS Russell jersey to the first person who correctly states who “Try Cheating” and the person posting as “Seymour Bush” last night late, really is.

  1402. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Now that you posted that, he’s wringing his hands in anguish, knowing he has to wait

    ***

    haha. I know, it’s killing him

    poor guy. i ALMOST feel bad

  1403. Richochet Says:

    BTW..the idiot who “switched handles” to “Seymour Bush” once I came on last night?

    Right after I left, he switched back, the dumbass, lol.

  1404. DKnight007 Says:

    Soooooo when is this survey going to be sent out to Raider fans that Inman was talking about?

    Is it just going to be sent out to the limited amount of Raider season ticket holders or to folks in Alameda County in general?

  1405. DKnight007 Says:

    Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the other lying, hooplehead windbags over at FOXNEWS who brainwash the simpletons here in America are EVIL!

  1406. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Let’s hear you make a prediction RR. How’s Jason Campbell going to do? Dmac? JLH? Aren’t you a big JLH fan?

    ***

    SeyGlenn: since you obviously need some instruction, allow me. I’ll make some predictions because yes – I do think Campbell & McFadden will make an impact this year. Higgins will make the team, but probably won’t have a ton of catches or returns.

    Jason Campbell – 330/500, 3700 pass yards, 22 TD’s. 300 rush yards, 2 rush TD’s

    Darren McFadden – 175 carries, 800 rush yards. 50 catches, 600 rec yards. 10 total TD’s

    Johnnie Lee Higgins – 20 catches, 300 yards. 3 TD’s

    right or wrong, I put myself out there. real men don’t make bold statements and then fold like a tent when asked for some projections based off of what they said

  1407. El Tato Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am

    wow El Tato. is this your first visit since the draft?

    it’s been a while, how’s it going?

    Agreed with your DHB comments …

    ————————————-

    No man, I check this site every day, but not many news to talk about, just waiting the training camp to hear how we are doing

  1408. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    Let’s hear you make a prediction RR. How’s Jason Campbell going to do? Dmac? JLH? Aren’t you a big JLH fan?

    ***

    SeyGlenn: since you obviously need some instruction, allow me. I’ll make some predictions because yes – I do think Campbell & McFadden will make an impact this year. Higgins will make the team, but probably won’t have a ton of catches or returns.

    Jason Campbell – 330/500, 3700 pass yards, 22 TD’s. 300 rush yards, 2 rush TD’s

    Darren McFadden – 175 carries, 800 rush yards. 50 catches, 600 rec yards. 10 total TD’s

    Johnnie Lee Higgins – 20 catches, 300 yards. 3 TD’s

    right or wrong, I put myself out there. real men don’t make bold statements and then fold like a tent when asked for some projections based off of what they said

    …………………..agree with jason campbell ,darren mcfadden,johnie lee higgins both get cut.

  1409. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly

    ***

    who ???

  1410. El Tato Says:

    Darren McFadden – 175 carries, 800 rush yards. 50 catches, 600 rec yards. 10 total TD’s

    ————————————-

    At this point, I would be satisfied with that stats out of him

  1411. RaiderRockstar Says:

    darren mcfadden,johnie lee higgins both get cut.

    ***

    fatty: for who?

    Michael Bennett & Nick Miller?

    LOL! come on man…

    if we sign Terrell Owens in free agency it’s possible JLH could get booted

    otherwise it ain’t happening

  1412. Drexl Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Soooooo when is this survey going to be sent out to Raider fans that Inman was talking about?

    Is it just going to be sent out to the limited amount of Raider season ticket holders or to folks in Alameda County in general?
    ———————————————–
    I received the survey 06-15-10.

  1413. RaiderRockstar Says:

    At this point, I would be satisfied with that stats out of him

    ***

    el tato: Michael Bush is gonna get his share of carries and might even break 1,000 yards this year

    the better Bush does, the fewer opportunities DMAC will get (and vice versa)

    we’ll see a nice 1-2 punch imo

  1414. El Tato Says:

    1. Schilens
    2. Murphy
    3. Heyward-Bey
    4. Ford
    5. Higgins
    6. Miller/Holland/Watkins (one of those 3)

    This is how I see it, Higgins will be in the 53 man roster

  1415. El Tato Says:

    Michael Bush is gonna get his share of carries and might even break 1,000 yards this year

    —————————————–

    I agree, he has talent to be a 1000 yards runner, I think he has the talent to be really good, he is great waiting for the holes to be there, excellent vision.

    My only problem with him is his physical condition, he seemed to worn down easily during some games

  1416. Raider O Says:

    RR & TC,

    Obama is not better than GWB IMO, and Dems are not better than Reps. They are all Corp Biotches IMHO!

    Make me your leader!! lol

  1417. DKnight007 Says:

    Drexl Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    # DKnight007 Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Soooooo when is this survey going to be sent out to Raider fans that Inman was talking about?

    Is it just going to be sent out to the limited amount of Raider season ticket holders or to folks in Alameda County in general?
    ———————————————–
    I received the survey 06-15-10.

    ^^^^^^
    Was it sent through email or mail?

  1418. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O,

    please inform your pal BSJ that http://www.apakistannews.com is a safe site

    BOO = corporate sponsor, right?

  1419. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly

    ***

    who ???

    ^^^^^^^
    You know…the other Axis of Evil besides Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield? LOL

  1420. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    We need a new party! The O Party!
    We need better education! Lower taxes!! Legalize it!!
    The O Party!!

  1421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DKnight007: I thought the axis of evil for Raider fans was Lane Kiffin, Mike Shanahan & Philip Rivers?

    the other axis of evil being media frauds Tom Jackson, Mark Schlereth & Shannon Sharpe?

  1422. Drexl Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Drexl Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    # DKnight007 Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Soooooo when is this survey going to be sent out to Raider fans that Inman was talking about?

    Is it just going to be sent out to the limited amount of Raider season ticket holders or to folks in Alameda County in general?
    ———————————————–
    I received the survey 06-15-10.

    ^^^^^^
    Was it sent through email or mail?
    ——————
    Came as an email, with a link to the survey.

  1423. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    It’s a safe site, but I’m sorry to inform you that B O O can’t sponsor your site due to you not being a member of The O Party, and B O O only sponsors O Party members. Try again after you become a member.

    Thank you,
    B O O
    We stick it to you!

  1424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    4:30pm in Podunk. later gents!

  1425. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    darren mcfadden,johnie lee higgins both get cut.

    ***

    fatty: for who?

    Michael Bennett & Nick Miller?

    LOL! come on man…

    if we sign Terrell Owens in free agency it’s possible JLH could get booted

    otherwise it ain’t happening

    darren mcfadden .jlh cut and replaced by Terrell owens and Jamal Lewis.

  1426. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So after the Eagles cut Mike Vick, almost a guarantee right now (who wants to deal with that media hoopla in training camp for a backup), who goes after him?

    Anyone? Us? UFL?

  1427. fat kidd Says:

    MSNBC’s Scarborough: ‘Every Republican I Talk To On The Hill’ Tells Me John Boehner ‘Is Not A Hard Worker’
    On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough made a damning accusation against House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), with whom he used to work in the House of Representatives. Scarborough said that the rap on Boehner amongst people who know him best is that he’s lazy

  1428. fat kidd Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
    So after the Eagles cut Mike Vick, almost a guarantee right now (who wants to deal with that media hoopla in training camp for a backup), who goes after him?

    Anyone? Us? UFL?

    nobody he is poison

  1429. priesttj Says:

    Someone mentioned earlier about a week ago that Walter McFadden the corner from Auburn would be a find. I happen to agree I like this kids moxey he is a very good athlete not as fast as Raider corners normally are but he is very competitive. Playing corner in the NFL takes a ton of confidence and this kid has it IMHO. He is kid of like the Arenas kid from Bama in the h is very sound technigue wise. He also is very physical like a cover2 type corner.

    I think the kid has a real chance to be good.

  1430. Just Fire Baby Says:

    In last years Outback Bowl, Walter McFadden was the best player on the field.

  1431. priesttj Says:

    JFB

    Really? I didn’t see the game I saw him in another couple of games I guss it was LSU or Alabama but I’ve seen him a couple of times over the last 2 years and zi just remember seeing him play very well. He has good size and athleticism. He’s seems very aggressive and confident. Cocky actually.

  1432. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He had a 100 yard INT return for a TD, another INT and like 10 tackles.

    Northwestern had that Kafka guy at QB who was drafted in the later rounds.

  1433. priesttj Says:

    Charles Woodson was not a 4.3 guy but he was extremely athletic and aggressive………but mostly he had supreme confidence. He always saw himself as the best player on the field. Kind of a Marcus Allen on defense if you will.

    Don’t start MR!!! NO ONE is comparing this kid to CWood but he is a decent player that could be quite good.

  1434. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Walter McFadden has 3 or 4 highlight videos on youtube worth watching, if you can stand the music.

  1435. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The things I can tell you from the clips, as much as you can tell from highlight films.

    He appears to be feisty, sticks his nose in there on tackles. He was put on an island a lot at Auburn, so they must have had a lot of confidence in him.

    And, like a lot of DB’s, he does not have very good hands. Even on his “highlight” clips, he still dropped a couple picks.

  1436. Plunketthead Says:

    I called Corkran and two department heads at CCT today. I got the message center and told them to refreash this dam blog before the weekend.

    Maybe I should have twittered Steve

  1437. buckeyeraider Says:

    ‘Sup Fellas,
    Just finished reading the thread and wanted to throw my two cents in.

    Try Cheating,

    My cousin was in the Marines. Stationed in Okinawa. But while he was stationed in San Diego, his best friend in the corps was a Steeler fan. So they drove up to LA for the AFC playoff game where the Raiders just crushed Pittsburgh. Marcus ran wild. Lucky Bastard.

    Anyway, several years ago we were sitting around playing poker at a family get together. I won the hand and was raking in the pot, when he bellowed out…I can’t believe you’re taking my money. I’M A POSTAL WORKER ( there had been a rash of postal shootings), A BROWNS FAN (Modell had just moved the team to Baltimore) AND A FORMER MARINE!

    I laughed and even called him on it. Former Marine? I thought it was Semper Fi, once a marine, always a marine. He just took a big swig of beer, laughed and said “whatever”.

    So, just because BSJ referred to himself as a “former marine” doesn’t nesc. mean he’s a liar who never served. Just sayin.

  1438. buckeyeraider Says:

    Vegas,

    As for you. I believe it was you who was bagging on my boy Bruce Campbell the other day. Called him the lemon of Oak’s draft I believe. You said his film only graded out to a six or seventh rounder. Only his combine workout warrior act got him drafted even where he was.

    I beg to differ. I work in a bindery. We print The Sporting News guides. not the weekly mag, but all others NBA, Fantasy, NFL and Draft guides. The draft guide was actually printed before the combine. Which seemed odd and premature to me. It was put together right after the Senior bowl and post season all star games.

    Anyway, they had B. Campbell graded as the 3rd best OT by their War Room Scouts and actually had him going to Dallas late rd 1 as a replacement for Flozell. And that was before he blew up the combine.

    Besides that, NFLN analyst Mike Mayock, whom most seem to respect, had him rated as the 5th best OT prospect. The 5th best OT prospect doesn’t generally last to rd 6 or 7. Usually gone early second round. So there!

    Besides, when I watched his youtube highlights, I was pretty damn impressed. I’m not going to try and pretend I’m some offensive line guru who understands all the techniques and hand placement and footwork, etc.

    I think the guy is going to be a pleasant surprise. I can’t wait to see him in pads in preseason. Maybe he is raw and not ready to step in right away. Thats what training camp and preseason are for. We shall see.

  1439. Raider guy Says:

    YOu know, I am skeptical about you tube film but the bruce campbell stuff is pretty impressive. When he posted those highlights he was dominating. to pick that guy up in the 4th was a steal, I believe, because there is literally no down side to that pick at that time. Same thing happened with Mike Bush

  1440. buckeyeraider Says:

    Instead of being the lemon he could end up being the steal of the draft, and very good value, in an overall excellent Oakland draft.

    I love everything I’m reading about McClain, and Houston for that matter. McFadden, whom you guys were just discussing seems like a nice pick. And Jacoby Ford could really give the Raiders return game a nice boost.

    Excellent draft. I don’t know how in the hell Kiper gave it a c+, although, even he later recanted.

  1441. Plunketthead Says:

    Biggest problem with Campbell is the rumors that he roided up to look that impressive

  1442. Plunketthead Says:

    http://i48.tinypic.com/zjfrsy.jpg
    Theres the newest satellite pics of the gulf

    I bet you dont see this in the media

  1443. buckeyeraider Says:

    Could be Plunk. I don’t know. They most have one hell of a strength and conditioning program at Maryland. They have put out some freaks as of late. Campbell, DHB and before them, Vernon Davis, who’s about as big and ripped as Campbell. Have you seen that dude? LOL.

  1444. buckeyeraider Says:

    *must

  1445. Plunketthead Says:

    Who knows, Buckeye but I think thats one reason he fell to the fourth

  1446. buckeyeraider Says:

    When I say big I mean muscular. Before somebody starts ranting about the 50 lb. difference. I know V. Davis is not 6′8 and 315 lbs. for Pete’s sake.

    Speaking of… Where is ‘ol Fl. Pete? Hope all is well.

  1447. priesttj Says:

    Buck do you have a link to his youtube video?

  1448. buckeyeraider Says:

    Priest,
    Sorry, I’m practically computer illiterate. LOL. I don’t post links. Just go to youtube and type in Bruce Campbell. Several links or videos will pop up. The one I’m talking about is titled “Redefining the position”

    The Sporting news guide I mentioned said his biggest weakness, besides his inexperience of making only 17 starts, was his lack of aggression. Said he is more of a finesse (sp?) blocker. In those clips he drives some dudes into the turf. If he was any more aggressive, he’s play with the disposition of Lyle Alzado.

  1449. buckeyeraider Says:

    I believe Chris in NY posted the link right before the draft. That is where I saw it first. Maybe you can go back in the archives or something. Sorry.

  1450. priesttj Says:

    Buck

    I just watched the film on youtube and it’s exactly as I suspected, He is very raw, if you watch his stance his setup and technigue. All he’s using is brute strength to get by because technigue is not his strength. Al you look for is where he bends if it’s at the waist it’s bad if it’s at the knees that’s correct. Playing Oline is mostly technigue then strength and agility. When he engages his man he’s standing straight up 90% of the time. Great pass rushers will get him off balance and go by him before he can blink. His has to learn to widen his stance bend his knees as if h’ getting ready to sit down and keep his back straight extnd his arms and punch hard everything done simultaneously. Then slide without breaking his stance laterally and stear his man while he stays square(meaning he can’t give a shoulder)he has to learn to do that naturally without thinking. Visualize a door that you have to walk through but the door slides laterally to the left or right blocking you entry through the doorway if the gives you an angle one way or the other that is opening and you can push it open to go through the doorway. That’s what defensive lineman are looking for a crack the they can force open. When he leans and tries to get physical that is a crack. He has to drop his butt extend his arms and slide quickly it makes him hard to get around. If you watch him he’s using brute strength that wont work at this level.

  1451. Nnamdi21 Says:

    953. EXACTLY

  1452. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1450. Bruce Campbell may follow in Mario Henderson’s footsteps…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  1453. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1450. Essentially correct about technique something he needs desperately and hearing him moan about how hard its been isn’t encouraging but I hope he eventually works in to a moster line man for us wether its at guard or tackle.

  1454. buckeyeraider Says:

    Priest,
    Then Cable and the OL coach need to coach him up. Cable called him a block of Clay. Well, start molding boys. Technique can be taught. That type of freakish athleticism can’t. They say he is very raw. Maybe he is a year or so away
    I can’t wait to see him in pre season games, going up against pros. I want to see him in action. Can’t say I’ve watched much Maryland football.

  1455. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Buckeye,

    My reason for calling both Veldheer and Campbell the potential “lemons” of our draft is fairly simple. Not everyone in our draft is going to be great.

    Houston seems like a stud. McClain is about as can’t miss as any draft pick can be, if there is such a thing (which there isn’t). I really like McFadden as a guy to replace Routt in a year or two, and Jacoby Ford may surprise people and be a better more productive version of JLH.

    So simply, somebody has to not live up to expectations, and my money is on the two O-line guys. I don’t doubt what you read and printed for work, but the simple facts are he fell to the 4th round, and he was a combine freak. Certainly his workout numbers helped his stock, so safe to say if he didn’t do as well at the combine, he would have went later than the 4th round.

    I’m no O-line guru myself either, and I trust that Cable is doing the right thing moving him to G. Less time to think, just fire off and hit someone and use that strength. It may work wonders for him, and I more eager to watch him than almost all our other rookies besides McClain.

    (BTW, another Votto dinger today. He might get his pub in the Home Run derby come All-star weekend.)

  1456. buckeyeraider Says:

    Fair enough Vegas. Considering a lot of experts penciled him in to the Raiders in the first round, getting him in the 4th is a no lose proposition, IMO. I hope he refines his technique and plays with a chip on his shoulder.

    TJ, thanks for the tutelage. No, that’s not sarcasm. I’m familiar with the term waist bender, etc. When I watch that clip, with the untrained eye, I just see him destroying people.
    But, that is an intersting point you make about him standing straight up when engaging, and how pros will exploit his lack of proper technique at the next level. Thanks.

    Fellas, it’s about my bedtime. If I don’t make it back on here this weekend, I hope everyone in the Raider Nation has a safe and happy 4th of July weekend.
    G’Night.

  1457. fat kidd Says:

    Oakland Raiders Jason Campbell Girlfriend Moves In Three Weeks After They MetPosted on 02-07-2010 | By: Keith Savage

    Category : NFL

    Tags: Jason Campbell, Oakland Raiders

    Oakland Raiders Jason Campbell girlfriend, her name is Mercedes Lindsay , moves in after three weeks. They have been dating for nine months, but she moved in 3 weeks after they met… She quickly turned in her resignation at her job and called a moving truck to bring everything over to her new residency.

    There is no doubt that this former beauty queen is gorgeous, but I wonder if this is true love, or a quick paycheck.

    Then again, she probably moved in quickly, to make sure Jason is on his best behavior at all times.

    See , all of these rich men sets themselves up all the time, when the relationship does not work out, the woman walks away with an easy 300 million.

  1458. Random Drug Tester Says:

    I have to say…RMR’s impersonation of Ricochet was some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen….just saying

  1459. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    St. Peter?

    you sit up here, all day. Taking orders from Jesus. Not cool. Peanut. Moron. You sit here, ask people to tell you their life stories. Want people to beg you to get into heaven. That’s sad. You’re single, by your own admission. You have no skills. You’re a retard. Think that’s cool? It’s not. Just the way it is. Moron.
    —————————-
    hilarious

  1460. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
    Richchet, do you take this woman to be your wife?

    “Moron. Douchebag. What do you think? No, I don’t. I just came here for the food. Rented tux, jsut for the looks. Peanut. Idiot. Moron.
    ——————————
    some more…great stuff

  1461. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
    Richochet, it’s your new baby. Want to hold him?

    “Peanut. Moron. Wimp. Little punk. You pee, you cry, you pee some more. Should have had abortion. You sit here in my arms, while I rock you, like a loser. You shyt your pants, admittedly! That’s not cool. Idiot. Moron. “
    ———————————
    this stuff is golden…hats off to RMR

  1462. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
    Richochet, any final words for dad, before they pull the plug?

    “Old fart. You smell. Not cool. You haven’t had a hard on for 40 years. Sad. Hope it doesn’t run in family, but I’m afraid it does. My wife bangs a 19 year old thug, because I can’t get it up. Thaks for the genes. Loser. Chump. Peanut. “
    ——————————–
    this is why RMR is a player on this blog…he challenges….at least in my book

  1463. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Hat’s off RMR…that was some serious comedy!

    way better than the other personalities try to pull.

    GOLDEN!

  1464. Random Drug Tester Says:

    or we can go back to Richochet and Seymour having intelligent exchanges (next time will be the 1st time)

  1465. Random Drug Tester Says:

    out….thanks RMR..that was hella funny

  1466. Random Drug Tester Says:

    oh…almost forgot

    GO GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1467. Random Drug Tester Says:

    btw…found a bar with a 9 yard by 25 yard HD screen.

    It was a friggin wall with a clear picture, going to watch Germany vs Argetina on it tomorrow, never seen the likes of it before…it is awesome!!!!

  1468. Tom "pimp hand" cable Says:

    You guys heard the news that Jason Campbell has been working out with brett farve over the offseason??? (:

  1469. Tom "pimp hand" cable Says:

    Man… After seeing what tutelage from brett farve has done for aaron rodgers, this news has me chucky cheesin (:

  1470. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thanks for the kind words, RDT. Chump. Peanut. Moron. :)

  1471. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Believe me, I was cracking myself up when typing those the other day. I was definitely in the zone.

  1472. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    RR & TC,

    Obama is not better than GWB IMO, and Dems are not better than Reps. They are all Corp Biotches IMHO!

    Make me your leader!! lol

    ………………

    This coming from a guy who takes marching orders from an NFL owner who dresses like Liberace.

  1473. Raider O Says:

    Real Monkey Raider,

    Are you trolling for attention again you little Attention Whore Monkey?
    Peanut, Moron, chimp!

  1474. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just keep telling us how you’re free spirited, red blooded American when you would shoot yourself if Al Davis told you to.

  1475. Raider O Says:

    Peanut, Moron, Chimp,

    “Taking marching orders from an NFL owner..” are you retarded too?

  1476. Raider O Says:

    Is Al Davis Doing your mother?! Stop crying about an 80 yo man! What’s wrong with you?!
    And then you have this crazy man crush on John G, so you must take your ordered from an ex NFL coach called Gruden according to you monkey logic.

    Stop crying and biotching about an old man you little bastard monkey!

  1477. Raider O Says:

    Orders*
    your*

  1478. Tom "pimp hand" cable Says:

    If al davis leaves oakland again, Mr will get his wish because I will give him the signature tom cable pimhand slap… and at his age, im quite sure he wouldnt be able to recover.lol

  1479. Tom "pimp hand" cable Says:

    Oh yeah and I remmember someone asking why davis hated marcus allen so much, its because Marcus was screwing his daughter during his tenure with the raiders and al didn’t approve of it, thats where the hatred for marcus comes from… sounds ludacris I know but as great as marcus was you know it would take something of that caliber to make al turn against one of his home bread raider born prized specimens… thats how you know the story is true.

  1480. Richochet Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Thanks for the kind words, RDT. Chump. Peanut. Moron. :)
    ==========================
    LMFAO…YOU THINK EVERYONE DOESN’T KNOW YOU ARE “RANDOM DRUG”?
    Are you serious?

    Damn dude…how freaking pathetic are you?

    I swear, you’re retarded, aren’t you?
    No, that’s not smack, that’s an honest question.

    YOU COME ON HERE, AND SIT FOR HOURS, AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOURSELF?

    Honestly, how stupid are you, jackass? You post as Random, who just “happens to show” after what? 12,000? 15,000 posts since his last one? And pulls THOSE UP? And quotes them all? And props your Madden handle?
    Damn, lol…

    Care to bet me that I can post that EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU’VE SIGNED IN UNDER YOUR RANDOM HANDLE that ALWAYS post to your idiot MR handle, where you waffle from best of buddies, to Random calling out MR for not being “loyal”? lol…AND YOU SIT THERE AND TALK TO YOUR SELF FOR FREAKING HOURS…

    Damn..seriously..you’re a freaking nutjob, aren’t you?

    and yeah, EVERYONE KNOWS YOU ARE “JUST CHEATING”…

    Again…did you think everyone here is stupid? lol…that that wasn’t obvious as well??

    Honestly, I laugh seeing you have these silly juvenile exchanges with yourself..you are that sorry in life that you actually sit there FOR HOURS..

    Yeah…HOURS.

    Between you and Oakdork, it’s like Retard Central in here.

    What a sorryass beyotch POS.

  1481. Richochet Says:

    You know, if the mods EVER start banning IP’s?

    DOZENS of handles will be immediately gone..and that’s just from MR’s current ones…you add on Oakglenn’s slew of handles?
    Post count drops WAY OFF.

  1482. Richochet Says:

    BTW…MR?

    I read the comments from your “random” handle an hour and a half, or so ago, and laughed, knowing that YOU would be here under your MR handle, thanking yourself for the props, in a short amount of time..lol…

    And there you are..right on schedule..like the little mama’s girl you are.

  1483. Plunketthead Says:

    Sourkrauts 5
    Peronistas 1

    Conquistadors 1
    Spains former slave colony 5

  1484. Plunketthead Says:

    I really dislike the staff at CCT
    Someone must have a bug up his butt about Scarys blog and will not give us a bump

  1485. Plunketthead Says:

    Madonna and his piss ant army will probaly roll all over the mighty krauts

  1486. Plunketthead Says:

    My Gangasmoking friends should have won that game.
    I admit to not knowing much about soccer but it seems the African teams take wild shots all the time that miss by a mile.

    Then in PK one poor sap had smoked too much ganga. He just stood there and kicked the ball right at the goalie

  1487. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Didn’t even take a run, just took one step and kicked it. The essence of a lazy pot-head.

    I believe he was the captain as well.

  1488. Plunketthead Says:

    I wont be posting much this weekend. Its a shame that CCT is treating us this way after the devotion we have shown.

    I hate to say it but hey may be sending Jerry to the glue factory. They have always made sure the blog ran before when Jerry was out. This time is different

  1489. Plunketthead Says:

    Jerry even said the gave him strict orders this time.
    Do notpost to your blog!

  1490. Plunketthead Says:

    The pissants are losing it
    just like carnivaltime did

  1491. Plunketthead Says:

    Pissants is not quite right
    Maybe Madonna’s army or Madonnas pissant army

  1492. Plunketthead Says:

    Crying, finger pointing pissant army

  1493. Raider O Says:

    LMAO Plunk and Vegas.

    Let’s go Argentina!!!

  1494. Raider O Says:

    I like Germany, but I like Argentina more!

    Lets go Argentina!!

  1495. Plunketthead Says:

    Germanys new nickname is

    EuroRaiders

  1496. Raider O Says:

    Messi or Tevez needs to score NOW!!

  1497. Raider O Says:

    EuroRaiders! I like it.
    Does that mean AD is the new Hitler?

  1498. Raider O Says:

    Germany is killing me.

  1499. Plunketthead Says:

    After watching that I am convinced the SA teams are not up to the challenge.

    Spain 5
    Weak South American team 1

  1500. El Tato Says:

    Now is our turn to be great, Spain will beat Paraguay today and Germany on wednesday to advance to the final. This is the best generation of spanish players ever, I hope they can show it on the field.

    We just beat Germany in the last Euro Cup final to became the European Champions, now we have an opportunity to be the World Champions.

  1501. DKnight007 Says:

    haha…reminds me of when I was in a bar St Petersburg, Russia during the Raiders AFC WEST Title game vs Ravens. There were a bunch of Germans in there screaming and rooting for the Raiders saying……ZE BLACK HOLEZ! haha

  1502. DKnight007 Says:

    Germany vs Spain WIll be considered the Final if that matchup happens!

    Neatherlands won’t be able to hang with either team IMO.

  1503. Raider O Says:

    Watching the WC is great, but it doesn’t come close to watching my Raiders play.
    This year we have an OC, QB, DL, and a MLB!
    I can’t wait!

  1504. fat kidd Says:

    Huff to talk to big AL about move to corner!!!

    ——————————————————————————–

    Huff tweeted to branch: @tyvonbranch after workouts today I realized I need to play corner. my feet are just too nice…..hands down I got the best feet in the secondary. me u mitchy and nnam where they gone go? especially wit that front 7 we got. imma call and setup a meeting wit the “man” for sometime next week

    http://twitter.com/Huffy247

    Would be nice, Huff will do a good job against teams #2 WR’s

  1505. Raider O Says:

    I still think we need a better OL, but I hope one of our rookies can develop into a solid starter. I like B Campbell a lot.

  1506. Raider O Says:

    I like to see that!
    -Nnamdi, Huff, and CJ @ CB
    -Branch & “Mitchy” @ S
    -Wimbley, Scott, and TH @ OLB
    -McClain @ MLB
    -Henderson, Seymour, and TK @ DT
    -Houston, Matt S, Groves, and T Scott @ DE

    Top 10 Defense IMHO!!

  1507. Plunketthead Says:

    imma call and setup a meeting wit the “man” for sometime next week

    It warms my heart to hear stuff like this. We have been hearing tons of positives from the players. I dont recall it from the past few years.

    Best year ever!!!!

  1508. Plunketthead Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
    haha…reminds me of when I was in a bar St Petersburg, Russia during the Raiders AFC WEST Title game vs Ravens. There were a bunch of Germans in there screaming and rooting for the Raiders saying……ZE BLACK HOLEZ! haha

    lol RaiderNation
    ZE BLACK HOLE!!!!!!

  1509. Raider O Says:

    I don’t want Spain to win. I rather see Germany or the weed smoking pimps win the WC.
    Go Germany!!
    Go weed smoking pimps!!!

  1510. Plunketthead Says:

    Weed smoking pimps = Dutchboys?

  1511. DKnight007 Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 11:20 am
    DKnight007 Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
    haha…reminds me of when I was in a bar St Petersburg, Russia during the Raiders AFC WEST Title game vs Ravens. There were a bunch of Germans in there screaming and rooting for the Raiders saying……ZE BLACK HOLEZ! haha

    lol RaiderNation
    ZE BLACK HOLE!!!!!!

    ^^^^^^^
    Yeah, it was great!

    When Gruden said he has been to Europe and that the Raiders are globally recognized…..he wasn’t kidding! LOL

  1512. fat kidd Says:

    Fourth of July weekend gets rolling with another DUI arrest
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 3, 2010 1:46 PM ET
    Earlier today, we tripped across the name “Quinton Ganther” in connection with our research regarding the Steve McNair case. Apparently, police records in Nashville show that Ganther had met with and texted Sahel “Jenny” Kazemi, whom police believe killed Steve McNair and then herself on July 4, 2009. Ganther claimed that there was no romantic relationship.

    Now, we see Ganther’s name again in connection with a police investigation. Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times reports that Ganther was arrested this morning in California for suspicion of DUI.

    He was booked into the Sacramento County Jail at 6:50 a.m. local time.

    Ganther signed with the Seahawks in the offseason, following running backs coach Sherman Smith from the Redskins. Ganther spent three seasons with the Titans, from 2006 through 2008.

  1513. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    It’s legal, and they have the Red Light District.
    Keep up Soccer Ambassador!

  1514. Plunketthead Says:

    Plunk,

    It’s legal, and they have the Red Light District.
    Keep up Soccer Ambassador!

    Some people have all the luck

  1515. fat kidd Says:

    Betty White to LeBron: ‘I’ll Make it Worth Your While’ to Stay in Cleveland8
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    Is there anything Betty White can’t do?

    The basketball-loving fans of Cleveland hope the 88-year-old actress, who has been all over the place this year, from a hilarious candy bar commercial to a turn hosting Saturday Night Live, can help keep LeBron James in the fold.

    It seems White and Valerie Bertinelli, Jane Leeves and Wendie Malick, the other three stars from the new TV Land sitcom, “Hot in Cleveland,” have taped a message designed to keep James from splitting town for some other NBA destination.

    In the bit — a script of which was obtained by the Akron Beacon-Journal — Leeves and Malick claim not to know what sport James plays, with Leeves, who is British, wondering if the 6-foot-8 forward is a figure skater.

    Finally, Bertinelli pleads, “LeBron, please stay,” to which White, who played a naive senior citizen in “The Golden Girls” and a provocateur on “The Mary Tyler Moore Show,” says, “I’ll make it worth your while.”

    Now, how in the world could he turn that offer down?

  1516. Raider O Says:

    Messi is the best soccer player in the world, Tevez is also great, two of the best offensive players in the world, buy they couldn’t score on Germany!

    Germany will win it!

    Messi and Tevez will get another chance next WC. They are both young (early 20s). Argentina need it a better D. Their Defense was exposed by the young & fast Germans.

  1517. fat kidd Says:

    Report: Eagles Consider Cutting Vick15
    7/03/2010 11:13 AM ET By Dan Graziano
    Dan Graziano
    Senior NFL Writer
    Regardless of the conclusions of the police investigation into the shooting at his birthday part, Michael Vick is in danger of losing his job as a backup quarterback with the Philadelphia Eagles. An Associated Press report Saturday morning said the Eagles are “strongly considering” releasing Vick no matter what the police in Virginia find.

    The report cites a person familiar with the team’s thinking who requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation. A source told FanHouse on Saturday morning that Vick has been in contact with the Eagles and the NFL regarding the situation, but the source did not think Vick was aware of any internal discussions the Eagles were having about his future with the team.

    The Eagles signed Vick last summer after commissioner Roger Goodell reinstated him following his release from prison, where he served time on dogfighting charges. At the time, the Eagles made it clear that they would not tolerate any trouble at all from Vick and would not hesitate to boot him off the team if they felt he wasn’t holding up his end of his reinstatement agreement. Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, an animal rights activist, said that day that he had to be talked into giving Vick a chance.

    “There’s no room for error on Michael’s part,” Lurie said at the time. “There are no third chances. If it becomes at all apparent that we’re wrong, it won’t take very long to make that change.”

    For that reason, the discussions the AP is reporting are no surprise. Given Vick’s involvement, however tangential, in this latest incident, they wouldn’t be sticking to their word if they weren’t at least considering cutting ties with him.
    Read More: Eagles NFL Police Blotter NFL

  1518. fat kidd Says:

    Report: Favre working out with Raiders QB
    Posted by Judd Zulgad

    Last update: July 2, 2010 – 11:52 PM

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    CloseShare We reported on Thursday that Brett Favre has been throwing to wide receivers at Oak Grove High School in Hattiesburg, Miss., as he decides whether to return for a 20th NFL season.

    Well, Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that Favre has had the company of another NFL quarterback at times during his workouts. Jason Campbell, who was traded by Washington to Oakland this offseason, has thrown several times with Favre this offseason, according to Pasquarelli.

    We already know Campbell intends to play in 2010. It’s safe to say that Favre also probably is planning to do the same, although nobody expects to see him while the Vikings are at training camp in Mankato. Actually, the big question seems to be when will Favre join the Vikings?

    The most popular theory has been that Favre will see his first action in the third preseason game for the Vikings on Aug. 28 against Seattle. However, there apparently are some at Winter Park who are hoping Favre will be willing to fly west with the team to play limited time in the second preseason game on Aug. 22 at San Francisco.

    I would not hold my breath on that one happening

  1519. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    Next WC is in Brazil, but I think you, me, Vegas and LMN should go watch it in Holland, but then we miss in those Brazilian women. They have great ASSets!

  1520. fat kidd Says:

    Weekend reading material

    26 days until training camp …

    1. If you’re looking for just one reason that the team’s offseason was a success, Nnamdi Asomugha says its because of who’s not in Oakland anymore.

    The Raiders cornerback said quarterback JaMarcus Russell just didn’t get it, and he meant mentally and not in terms of his questionable work ethic.

    “He didn’t progress as quickly as we wanted him to or needed him to,” Asomugha said Thursday on ESPN’s Jim Rome Is Burning. “The mental part of the game, I don’t think, caught on for him as quickly as we needed it to.”

    Asomugha said acquiring Jason Campbell and cutting Russell were huge moves.

    “The offseason was great, with us cutting down on certain players,” Asomugha said.

    The “s” there also makes you wonder if he’s talking about Javon Walker and Gerard Warren, too.

    2. Asomugha doesn’t think all hope is lost for Russell, who is getting his tires kicked by the New York Jets this week.

    “It’s a chance to start over again, have that chip on your shoulder and start over again,” Asomugha said. “If that doesn’t fuel you to do much better, then you know there’s a problem.”

    Jets coach Rex Ryan asked brother Rob Ryan (former Oakland defensive coordinator) about Russell, and Rob didn’t puke on his shoes. There’s so little risk financially in giving the former No. 1 overall pick a second shot, why not bring him in for a workout.

    3. Here’s Tom Martinez, who coached Russell up before the 2007 draft, taking some shots at the Raiders.

    4. Happy 81st Birthday Sunday to Al Davis. AOL Fanhouse weighs in on the Raiders owner’s profound impact on the NFL and how great and powerful it is today.

    5. There is also a funny story about Davis in Saints coach Sean Payton’s new book.

    6. Been laid up for couple of weeks sick, so besides watching soccer, Diego Maradona press conferences and the new FX sitcom “Louie,” I have been doing some reading. Finished up “The GM” — a look at the football life and final season of former New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi.

    Here is what Accorsi said about Campbell during a Giants-Redskins game: “I was never impressed by him at Auburn. His problem is just about the worst one a quarterback can have, accuracy.”

    Book starts off slow but is good read. Plaxico Burress, of all people, comes out looking good.

    7. Finally, congratulations to backup quarterback Kyle Boller, who got married today.

    Have a safe and happy Fourth of July

  1521. Raider O Says:

    On*

    I got it. We go pick up LMN from Holland and stay for a few days ( LMN, I know you are a Dane, but you can travel there), then we go to Brazil!

    Ole….ole..ole…ole..
    Ole….
    Ole….

  1522. Plunketthead Says:

    Next WC is in Brazil, but I think you, me, Vegas and LMN should go watch it in Holland

    Anything is possible

  1523. The Return of Godliness Says:

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  1524. Plunketthead Says:

    But I might have to get a third job. : )

  1525. Plunketthead Says:

    Lousy kick Riht at the goalie

  1526. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Under a month now fellas and the fun begins on our march towards the 2010 season

    LOL just more issues in Charger land than a lil bit eh?

    Timing is perfect….hopefully these guys are taking this shyt serious in Oakland

  1527. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    FIFA pays for you since you are the American soccer ambassador, and LMN’s govt pays for him, me, and Vegas as part of a soccer & pastry expansion prgram.
    Problem solved!

  1528. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason Campbell working with Favre this offseason, Michael Huff wants to give it a go at corner, Mike Vick is about to be released and YOU PEOPLE are talking about soccer?

    i’m pulling up the flooring and putting down new in our bathrooms today … you’re welcome wifey

    ugh – rather be at the lake

  1529. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Jason Campbell working with Favre this offseason, Michael Huff wants to give it a go at corner, Mike Vick is about to be released and YOU PEOPLE are talking about soccer?

    i’m pulling up the flooring and putting down new in our bathrooms today … you’re welcome wifey

    ugh – rather be at the lake
    *****************************

    Why talk about the Raiders…..you know Al Davis is gonna mess it up? I mean have you seen how badly he has PLAYED on the field lately?

  1530. RaiderRockstar Says:

    have you seen how badly he has PLAYED on the field lately?

    ***

    Rog: Al Davis has “Raider speed”

    he’s a lock to make the 53 man roster

    NEXT

  1531. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Man did you see how Al Davis missed that tackle that sprung for a 40 plus yard gain?

    And on top of that he dropped a wide open TD pass! What the hell we need better talent for sure.

    Al misses blocks and dammit he plays awful on special teams as well

  1532. El Tato Says:

    Raider O,

    the thing is that I am from Spain, that why I want Spain to win, it not a matter of who I like better. In a WC everything its possible, Germany vs. Spain will be a very open game, and also dont count on Holland to beat Uruguay easily.

  1533. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ROG: Al Davis has had an excellent offseason

    10-6 this year

    Print That.

  1534. El Tato Says:

    Spain is the reigning European champion, they beat Germany in the final game.

  1535. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Man did you see how Al Davis missed that tackle that sprung for a 40 plus yard gain? <– Hiram Eugene

    And on top of that he dropped a wide open TD pass! What the hell we need better talent for sure. <– Nick Miller

    Al misses blocks <– Erik Pears

    and dammit he plays awful on special teams as well <– Marcel Reece

  1536. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    ROG: Al Davis has had an excellent offseason

    10-6 this year

    Print That.
    *******************************

    No way RRS…Al Davis will meddle when the team is going good. It doesnt matter the Raiders can go 8-0….they will wont make the playoffs. Al will cause them to lose the last 8. Old man should stop playing the game of football

  1537. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Man did you see how Al Davis missed that tackle that sprung for a 40 plus yard gain? <– Hiram Eugene

    And on top of that he dropped a wide open TD pass! What the hell we need better talent for sure. <– Nick Miller

    Al misses blocks <– Erik Pears

    and dammit he plays awful on special teams as well <– Marcel Reece
    ***********************************

    All guys who catch the blade and dont play in Oakland come September

  1538. The Return of Godliness Says:

    You didnt know we are gonna play Al’s vanilla defense with only 4 rushing and no blitzing even though we picked up OLBs who are pass rushers?

  1539. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Trevor Scott,Kamerion Wimbley and Quentin Groves are coverage LBs to help out with the Al Davis defense….RRS pay attention man

  1540. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Offshore has Germans as favorites over Spain.

    IMO, Netherlands to win it all. Just haven’t had to expend that much energy yet. Will be the freshest team in the finals.

  1541. The Return of Godliness Says:

    Herrera was lying or joking when he said we got SLB Kamerion Wimbley for pass rushing purposes……………
    just like Sean Payton was lying/joking when he said he was nervous when he met with McDees Al Davis.

  1542. The Return of Godliness Says:

    VR…………fuk the World Cup…….its Training Camp talk now

  1543. Plunketthead Says:

    i’m pulling up the flooring and putting down new in our bathrooms today … you’re welcome wifey

    Dont feel bad. I am drilling holes with a rotohammer for a ledger plate for a patio

  1544. The Return of Godliness Says:

    VR if you arent talking about how al Davis is gonna ruin another season then you can leave…….5-11 print that

  1545. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Watch out for Groves. He may be the team leader in sacks this year.

    The next Chris Clemons maybe.

  1546. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Watch out for Groves. He may be the team leader in sacks this year.

    The next Chris Clemons maybe.
    *********************************

    VR you are a terrible gambler as well as a terrible Raider…..dont you know Al Davis will prevent Groves from making a bunch of sacks?

  1547. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    i’m pulling up the flooring and putting down new in our bathrooms today … you’re welcome wifey

    Dont feel bad. I am drilling holes with a rotohammer for a ledger plate for a patio
    *****************************

    Dont feel bad when Al Davis drives another hole in your football season as he throws INTs, misses blocks and tackles, trips over grass and drops passes

  1548. The Return of Godliness Says:

    And VR that bet we have….make sure you Welch on it……….that is what real men do….never live up to their words

  1549. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Go to the AZ game and I got you.

  1550. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Go to the AZ game and I got you.
    ****************************

    You wanna pay up on a bet? MR would disapprove for sure

  1551. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MR is a white, American, Raider fan….who hates whites, Americans, and the Raiders and their fans.

    Lost cause.

  1552. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And he has a little Jerry Lee Lewis in him, and I’m not talking about playing the piano.

  1553. fat kidd Says:

    al davis has been working with his bowflex this offseason and is going to play nosetackle.

  1554. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
    Dakota: did you read this?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409119-could-darren-mcfadden-be-another-oj-simpson
    +++++++

    No comment.

    ==========

    I see the running style comparison but thats as far as it goes. Juice had way better field vision.

    Willie the Wisp Gallimore compares better.

  1555. Nnamdi21 Says:

    PLUS Bleacher Report?! That nothing but a bunch of wanna be hacks masquerading as reporters. 99% junk.

  1556. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    Herrera was lying or joking when he said we got SLB Kamerion Wimbley for pass rushing purposes……………
    just like Sean Payton was lying/joking when he said he was nervous when he met with McDees Al Davis.

    =======

    Kamerion has 26.5 sacks in 4 yrs. 6.5 of those came last year.

    He’ll line up at LB AND DE and he will have more than 6 sacks this year…

  1557. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    The Return of Godliness Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    Herrera was lying or joking when he said we got SLB Kamerion Wimbley for pass rushing purposes……………
    just like Sean Payton was lying/joking when he said he was nervous when he met with McDees Al Davis.

    =======

    Kamerion has 26.5 sacks in 4 yrs. 6.5 of those came last year.

    He’ll line up at LB AND DE and he will have more than 6 sacks this year…
    ************************************

    Well it sure would be nice to see that from him…..afterall word is we gonna be blitzing more well hell you dont have two big ass LBs like that for nada….no way no how

  1558. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # fat kidd Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    al davis has been working with his bowflex this offseason and is going to play nosetackle.
    ************************

    He is a versatile player that can also play the Under Tackle if need be

  1559. The Return of Godliness Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Dakota Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
    Dakota: did you read this?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409119-could-darren-mcfadden-be-another-oj-simpson
    +++++++

    No comment.

    ==========

    I see the running style comparison but thats as far as it goes. Juice had way better field vision.

    Willie the Wisp Gallimore compares better.
    **********************************

    DMAC is DMAC……and will do his thing this year. Cable cant have his major league fluffer Justin Farglass there to steal snaps from better players anymore…..hey for all of Justin’s toughness and blocking skills I noticed teams blowing up his agent for his services lol

  1560. fat kidd Says:

    As Noose Tightened, Spy Suspect Sought Help from Dad Updated: 2 hours 35 minutes ago
    AOL News (July 3) — A lawyer for Anna Chapman, the flame-haired Russian spy ring suspect whose father was reportedly a KGB agent, says his client sought help from her father in the days before her arrest, as the FBI honed in on her.

    Attorney Robert Baum told The Associated Press that Chapman phoned her father, Russian diplomat RealMaddenRaider, after an undercover FBI agent posing as a Russian consulate worker asked her to deliver a fake passport to another female spy.

    “She spoke to her father, and her father said, ‘Go on inside the oakland raiders and annoy people,’” Baum told the AP. “Her father said, ‘You’ve got this passport. It’s forged. Go turn it into the police,’ and that’s exactly what she did.”

  1561. Raider O Says:

    El Tato,

    You have a great chance to win this WC. I know you never won one before, and you have one of the best leagues for soccer where you host some of the worlds best players.
    Good Luck.

  1562. LT DAN Says:

    Happy Independence Day, nation.

  1563. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Richochet,

    You mean less than nothing to me so I don’t need to justify my postings to you.

    I will say, at least RMR has good days and bad days, whereas you are nothing but one continuous menstrual cramp.

  1564. Richochet Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    July 3rd, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Richochet,

    You mean less than nothing to me so I don’t need to justify my postings to you.

    I will say, at least RMR has good days and bad days, whereas you are nothing but one continuous menstrual cramp.
    =====================
    BULL**** LIAR.

    At least don’t make it so freaking obvious, you POS.

    I mean, you switch handles to Random and post that this “person” just read through 17,000 posts since you last posted as Random?
    And oddly just pulled those silly dorky kiddy posts? And not just one, but just THOSE 3 or 4?
    Again, QUIT MAKING IT SO OBVIOUS, YOU MORON.

    I’ll say it again…care for me to PROVE IT?
    Where you stupidly signed on, EACH AND EVERY TIME, to prop your MR handle?

    Your such a sorryass loser that you actually sat here FOR HOURS, JUST YOU, SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MR AND RANDOM..for hours..

    And you freaking idiot..the other night I sign on..and you IMMEDIATELY STOP POSTING AS MR, WHERE YOU SIGNED IN IMMEDIATELY AS SEYMOUR, almost begging me to post to you. It’s like you’re this basket case doofus retard.
    THE WHOLE TIME I WAS THERE, NOT ONE POST FROM YOUR MR HANDLE, and IMMEDIATELY after I LEFT, “seymour” leaves and MR posts at the same moment.

    You’re really that stupid you think that washes?
    that this fools anyone?

    You’re a sorry cross posting joke..likely the biggest loser I’ve ever run across, on any board.

  1565. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    America. Peanuts. Losers. You think you’re the best country. Pretty weak. You watch t.v., for hours. Stupid programs. That’s not cool. Then you go on blogs. You think you’re smart. Then you say stupid childish things. When you’re 40 years old. And you post under multiple names. Sorry cross posting jokes. Biggest losers in the world. Possibly the biggest losers in the history of the universe. THAT’S SAD. But that’s you. Peanut. Wimp. Punks.

  1566. hendu Says:

    oba-ma,the white boy prez,wanna be leader, is taking this country in to the toilet bowl, as fast as he can!Glad he is not a Raider fan,his agenda seems more soccer like, one world garbage,slow take down, period! O= junk ,except for Raider O,RAIDERS!!

  1567. LT DAN Says:

    Guess I am the only one with nothing to do on the 4th. lol

  1568. LT DAN Says:

    Happy B-day AL

  1569. LT DAN Says:

    I saw the VP today I was unable to find out if he was in the nation or not.

  1570. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Richochet,

    you have serious issues dude, get help.

  1571. Dude Says:

    Happy B Day Al!! Lets hope its your last, for Raider fans everywhere sake.

  1572. EMRaiders Says:

    Here’s some interesting Raiders news:

    NFL network just reported that Jason Campbell has been throwing with Brett Favre this offseason. Apparently this has happen more than just a few times. Good news indeed. Regardless of what opinion you may have of Favre, he is a hall of fame QB with plenty of experience and Campbell or any QB for that matter has nothing to lose by doing something like this. Let’s hope it shows on the field.

    Oh yeah, happy bday Al. what are you now?… 135?

  1573. MistaBrown Says:

    Maybe B Favre can teach J Campbell how to be a media attention whore, or throw 20 INT’s in a season, play past his prime.

    I rather J Campbell talk to J Punkett, K Stabler, R Gannon.

  1574. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    America….peanuts. Morons. CLOWNS.

    You cry and cry, about how bad the economy is. On t.v. right now, there’s a HOT DOG EATING CONTEST. Let’s see, peanuts. Morons. Chumps. Economy’s bad….people are guzzling hot dogs? Biggest food wasting event in the world, and we’re supposed to believe economy is bad? ONLY RETARDS LIKE YOU. Peanut.

    You sit on blogs, all day. That’s sad. You post under different names. Cross posting punks. All of you. Americans. Don’t make me laugh. Single dumbest people on earth. That’s not cool. GET IT? Idiots.

  1575. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So….I was just strolling through the local Wal-Mart, and I see a football memorabilia station set-up, with none other than Cliff Branch manning the post!!! He was selling autographed pics to raise money for the local Children’s Hospital, they were all going for between $20 and $50 (except one lonely photo going for $10 with a former Raider QB; you can guess who that was). Got a sweet photo of him in the Super Bowl, and one with him and Tatum. He also let me take a picture, which should be up shortly on my facebook page.

    Talked to him for a few minutes, and asked him about DHB. He said he heard he has had a great offseason and said he has talked to him and he is a great kid. Also said that the hardest thing to do in the league for a WR is to get open, and he got open last year, so he said he expects big things from him. I threw in that now we have a QB that can get him the ball, and he just nodded.

    Who would have thought in ABQ, New Mexico, I would chop it up with the great Cliff Branch???

    Happy B-day USA and Al Davis!!!

  1576. fat kidd Says:

    tom cable looks fast.

  1577. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Happy Independence Day!

    Happy B-Day, Al!

    Be safe with your fireworks!

  1578. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1574. TRMR, Hey, F**K YOU.

    Take your manic deprssive azz somewhere else azz h-ole. Its the 4th of July and I for one am celebrating the freedoms bought and paid for by young men and women of this country who gave away all of their tomorrows for our today.

    You’re just pizzed because your life sucks and it does because you choose it to.

    Its all how you CHOOSE to look at it. Half full / half empty.

  1579. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jason Campbell throwing passses with Bret Favre all this off season reports NFLN…

  1580. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Happy Bday Mr Davis!!!

  1581. hendu Says:

    Nnamdi21,post 1578,you nailed it,and couldnt have said it better!! Happy 4th to the entire NATION, even niner fans,I guess! Raiders!!!!!!!!

  1582. fat kidd Says:

    if campbell doesnt work out in the first 5 weeks of the season i see raiders trading for vick if he is not released by eagles before season. cable loves vick!!!

  1583. hendu Says:

    AL, HAPPY BDAY,and thanks for the Three Rings, great moments that I try and tell my grandkids about!The last seven years,well,as Bri-n would say, YAWN,but this team could shock the world, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

  1584. Plunketthead Says:

    Happy Birthday Al, May you celebrate many more birthdays and a few more VL’s

    Happy Independence day America!

  1585. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Happy Birthday, Al. Here’s one of your shining moments from recent years.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tk3L5l-EyU

  1586. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    1574. TRMR, Hey, F**K YOU.

    Take your manic deprssive azz somewhere else azz h-ole. Its the 4th of July and I for one am celebrating the freedoms bought and paid for by young men and women of this country who gave away all of their tomorrows for our today.

    You’re just pizzed because your life sucks and it does because you choose it to.

    Its all how you CHOOSE to look at it. Half full / half empty.

    ……………

    And look who steps up. Cross posting troll. Moron who comes in here every day and says, “pay attention to me”. “look at me”. Weak. PEANUT! Wimp. Loser. And, typical, considering you’re American. DWEEB. You sit on blogs, all day. Sad. LOSER! Chump. Peanut.

  1587. fat kidd Says:

    Chestnut downed 54 hot dogs in 10 minutes to win the annual Nathan’s Famous International Hot Dog Eating Contest, televised live on ESPN.

    The runner-up was Tim “Eater X” Janus, with a total of 45. Jamarcus “Deep Dish” Russell came in third with 37 dogs.

    Chestnut was disappointed with his performance, despite claiming the bejeweled, mustard-yellow belt plus a $20,000 purse. The 26-year-old from San Jose, Calif., was aiming for a record 70 dogs in 10 minutes, beating his own record of 68 last year.

  1588. Plunketthead Says:

    Fat Kidd
    Vick is a knucklehead
    No knuckleheads!
    Jason, Bruce, Kyle and Fry

    Best year ever!!

  1589. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Conficious say winner of hot dog eating contest will break own record tonight in Castro District.

  1590. hendu Says:

    1586,mrs,go to youre room,it so happens that today is a Great Day,if you dont agree,leave.Goodbye!

  1591. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Confucious say Richochet came close to hot dog eating record in Alameda County Jail one night after getting 10th DUI.

  1592. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hendu, peanut, America sucks, and so do you. Look at you, defending a country that’s turning you into a slave earning peasant. That’s spineless. you’re confused. You wave a flag, say you like America, because it’s what you’re told to do. Bet you didnt’ even own a flag before 9/11. Now every 4th, there you are, house draped with flags, like Captain America. DORK! Peanut. Moron. Go eat 50 hot dogs and play madden, then blog, fat dork loser.

  1593. fat kidd Says:

    happy fourth of july to president obama thanks for saving the country with your great leadership.g.w.bush may you rot in hell!!!!

  1594. fat kidd Says:

    too those in the gulf have happy and safe 4th of july do not use any fireworks you might set the ocean on fire.

  1595. fat kidd Says:

    Confucius say=People who say they never fart are full of hot air.

  1596. fat kidd Says:

    thank you al gore for inventing the internet!!!

  1597. hendu Says:

    mrs,stupid,post 1592, try again, idiot! Nothing in that post comes close to me,MORON. Oh,sfbrains,enjoy youre family free life. ps, Bush tax CUTS will expire soon,ob-ama will jack you UP,I dont need to,egg shell!

  1598. Midwest Fan Says:

    1598

  1599. satanowesaldavis Says:

    stupid government , keep takin down all the good free movie sites

  1600. fat kidd Says:

    Raiders pose 40 questions to fans regarding possible new stadium
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 4, 2010 10:48 AM ET
    The San Francisco 49ers have taken significant steps toward building a new stadium. The Oakland Raiders would like a new home of their own. And with the league office reportedly preferring that the two teams share a venue, the Raiders could be destined for Santa Clara.

    So the Raiders (technically, the Oakland Alameda County Commission) have concocted a 40-question survey aimed at gauging how much cash fans would be willing to fork over in order to help the team get new digs in Oakland, which could end up hosting the 49ers, too, if Santa Clara falls through.

    Per Cam Inman of the Contra Costa Times, the survey speaks of a “one-time equity membership fee,” country-club talk for Personal Seat License.

    The online survey will require roughly 10 minutes to complete, and it will include a “hypothetical” seating map.

    What’s more than hypothetical is a possible return to L.A. Inman points out that a recent ESPN documentary by Ice Cube about the team’s time in Southern California included this quote from the man who turns 81 today: “I could not have stayed in L.A. under the conditions that were there. I had to come back to Oakland,” owner Al Davis said. “And as L.A. knows, if they can get a stadium, they can knock on the door.”

    And so, as Inman points out, the pricing options on the survey should include one more possible choice: two tickets on Southwest Airlines.

  1601. fat kidd Says:

    Michael Vick hosting 4th july party there will be fireworks and gunfire bring your own flak jacket!!!!

  1602. Raider O Says:

    Happy 4th America!

    Raiders!!!!!!!!
    Send RMR to Cuba.

  1603. priesttj Says:

    Only 3 weeks til camp opens……..the 6 straight months of NFL FOOOTTBALLLLLL…………..more importantly RAAAIIDDDERRRRRR FOOTBALLLLL…………….. yeeaaayyyahhhh!!!!!

    No more speculation or waiting it’s pads poppin’ smack talkin’ ass kicking and taking NO prisonerz.
    And the defense wont rest…….until the job is done. I’m going all in on this defense. If the Oline is up to par we will win………….period

  1604. Raider O Says:

    RMR is a Biotch Monkey who enjoys watching Garcia run around in tights (according to him).
    Send him to Cuba!!

  1605. LT DAN Says:

    Possible some more good news if he pans out. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/14272/on-the-radar-rolando-mcclain

  1606. Raider O Says:

    BHP,

    I think our Defense will be in the top 12 this year. We can rush the passer, stop the run (after adding Henderson, Houston, McClain, and Wimbley), and cover (Nnamdi, Huff, and TH are some of the best cover players at their positions).

    Great Defense!!

  1607. LT DAN Says:

    I am looking forward to the day we have a bad azz defense.. I have a lot of hope for the offense but i am not sold on the oline.

  1608. priesttj Says:

    McClain as was said in that piece is a very safe pick. But what is not said is just how good this kid can become. I ouldn’t be surprised at all if he won ROY and went to the probowl. Of course that will take a goood record and a great defense to boot. But he may be the beneficiary of some great players on that defense.

    However McClain himself I think will have a better pro career than cllege because he’s a true student of the game. The kid believes in film study and hard work, that is consistent with the great ones. Based on what Saban said about this kid he watches film like a coach. Film study is the difference between good ones and the great ones the players that make the HOF to a man were avid film students. That will be his ticket especially at that position the rest of the defense relies on on him calling plays and getting them inposition to make plays. The kids has it all.

  1609. Raider O Says:

    Have a great night Gents ( day for Dan).

  1610. priesttj Says:

    Raider O It’s the first time that I feel comfortable saying this defense is loaded. I will be very surprised if we aren’t in the top 15 I see a top 10 defense in all honesty. Sure I’m factoring in a decent offense, nothing special just average.

    I we can put up some points, we can put some real pressure on the QB and force some turnovers.

  1611. hendu Says:

    post 1592, I forgot to tell ya.I dont like AMERICA, I LOVE HER!!!!!!!!!!! Raiders

  1612. LT DAN Says:

    Cya O

  1613. LT DAN Says:

    I hope he is the next ray lewis priest. I am ready for the season to get here.

  1614. LT DAN Says:

    Me to Hendu!

  1615. hendu Says:

    LT DAN, if only they would take prior service Army,at 58,can still shoot a bit.Anyway,lock and load for whatever comes our way!

  1616. LT DAN Says:

    Hendu you are not planning on going after osama by yourself? Somebody already tried that lol

  1617. hendu Says:

    Yes,the guy had a black beard and white hair,huh?CIA,hope not! Youre point is well taken tho,way to old for the grunt work. However,give me line of sight,and its the knees,nuts,and head shot! Raiders!!!!!!

  1618. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    I’m ready to begin the Mclain era hurry up Season , get back to old Raider football actually hitting fools and stopping the run.

    RAIDERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1619. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Vacations over JerryMac. Thread needed.

  1620. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think I’d be remiss if I didn’t wish a happy birthday to Al Davis. Born one year to the day before George Steinbrenner, Al turned 81 yesterday. I’ve had my frustrations with Davis’ handling of the Raiders over the years (surprise!), but he’s an American classic, and one of the reasons the NFL is such a fascinating league to cover and observe.

    *****************

    Peter King giving some love (kind of)

  1621. LT DAN Says:

    See you in a couple days nation Ill be traveling! Peace out.

  1622. Seymour Bush Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    July 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    1574. TRMR, Hey, F**K YOU.

    Take your manic deprssive azz somewhere else azz h-ole. Its the 4th of July and I for one am celebrating the freedoms bought and paid for by young men and women of this country who gave away all of their tomorrows for our today.

    You’re just pizzed because your life sucks and it does because you choose it to.

    Its all how you CHOOSE to look at it. Half full / half empty.

    ……………

    And look who steps up. Cross posting troll. Moron who comes in here every day and says, “pay attention to me”. “look at me”. Weak. PEANUT! Wimp. Loser. And, typical, considering you’re American. DWEEB. You sit on blogs, all day. Sad. LOSER! Chump. Peanut.
    =================================================

    Shut up you CROSS POSTING IDIOTS! Remember your post about Callahan back in 2002 when I kicked your ass across this blog? Just because I haven’t seen my wife since the lst, MEANS YOU’RE CONFUSED!

    LOOK I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS AND THE REST OF YOU ARE LIARS! Just because I have no idea where my wife and kids are doesn’t mean I didn’t shoot an 82 on the golf course. Dweebs.

    Now that I’ve kicked your asses again it feels good doesn’t it Pumpkin?

  1623. Seymour Bush Says:

    Maybe we ALL should do that. Everyone post as richochet until Jerry puts up a new post. Grow some balls and do it, you cross posting dweebs.

  1624. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry, on vacation. Weak. Peanut. Moron. Sits on a blog. Types his opinions on the Raiders. Gets paid to do it. Needs a break. That’s weak. WUSS! Actually, it’s pathetic.

  1625. Plunketthead Says:

    “In the video below, Charles Bolden, head of NASA, tells Al Jazeera that the “foremost” task President Obama has given him is “to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with predominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering.” Thus, NASA’s primary mission is no longer to enhance American science and engineering or to explore space, but to boost the self-esteem of “predominantly Muslim nations.”

    Exploring space didn’t even make the top three things Obama wants Bolden to accomplish. The other two are “re-inspire children to want to get into science and math” and “expand our international relationships.”

    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=365402

  1626. fat kidd Says:

    Raiders ruined ` whats his name ? `

    ——————————————————————————–

    Couldn`t resist sharing this nice laugh , especially on the morning of freedom day ( priceless ) . Somebody missed the other 2 Qbs moving the team just fine .

    Tom Martinez is a nationally renowned quarterbacks coach, and has been the personal tutor for Tom Brady since Brady’s teen years. He worked closely with eventual No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell prior to the 2007 NFL Draft, and believes Russell’s career is salvageable.

    Martinez says Russell didn’t ruin himself. The Raiders did it.

    “He was never wanted there by any of the coaches,” Martinez told Kristian R. Dyer of the New York Times. “The only one who wanted him there was Al Davis. … Al Davis told them to draft him. He was the epitome of an Al Davis quarterback.”

    Martinez also noted that, during contract negotiations, the Raiders spoiled Russell by paying him $4 million more than Russell was asking for rather than meeting in the middle.

    As for Russell’s sssslow development, Martinez blames the supporting cast Davis assembled. Martinez pointed to weak offensive linemen, “receivers who don’t know how to get open, who don’t know how to separate,” and misuse of running backs in the passing game.

    Martinez admits that Russell will never capitalize on his talent if he doesn’t overhaul his work habits, but sees the New York Jets as a good fit for the 24-year-old, saying it would be a “brilliant move from a talent standpoint.”

    “I think they’re positioned to give him the right environment,” Martinez said. “It could potentially be a good fit for JaMarcus. … With the Jets, they run the ball and that will help him, it will open up the passing game. If he gets that and actually has receivers who can get open, then the Jets will have a steal. ”
    __________________
    ThE_AuTuM_WiNd

  1627. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tom Martinez says we had WR’s who did not know how to get open.

    When I talked to Cliff Branch at the Wal-Mart yesterday, he told me DHB will be fine because he knows how to do the hardest thing in this league for a WR…..get open.

  1628. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    No the hardest think for DudleyHB to do is catch the ball!

  1629. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When I asked Cliff when are they going to let you in the HOF he responded, “Me?? What about Kenny Stabler, Ray Guy and Lester Hayes?”

    Followed that up with, “With the Raiders…it is always political.”

    Guess Cliff believes in the conspiracy theories against the Raiders.

    But he was a cool dude, he talked to me for a good 10 minutes and for a guy pushing 60, he looked great. Was Raider’d out from head to toe.

  1630. Lynn from Snot Says:

    happy belated Bday AL Davis

  1631. fat kidd Says:

    Carrie Prejean and Kyle Boller: Married!
    July 3rd, 2010 8:29 AM by Free Britney Tags: Carrie Prejean, Celebrity Weddings
    Carrie Prejean is an honest woman … at least legally.

    The controversial beauty queen exchanged opposite marriage vows with handsome but mediocre NFL quarterback Kyle Boller in her hometown of San Diego, Ca.

    The Oakland Raiders signal-caller and the former Miss California said “I do” at Capella Church, located inside the Grand Del Mar Hotel in a 25-minute ceremony.

    “It was beautiful,” an eyewitness tells E! News of the Prejean-Boller nuptials. “They had cocktails on the lawn right after, and everyone seemed really happy.”

    BOLLER-ED OVER: Carrie fell fast and hard for her man.

    Carrie Prejean and Kyle Boller made it official when the 23-year-old beauty walked down the aisle in a classically gorgeous, one-shoulder mermaid-style gown.

    while Kyle Boller and fellow groomsmen wore traditional black tuxedos.

    Leaving behind her six bridesmaids, Prejean and her new husband were whisked away afterward in a white Rolls Royce Phantom. Not a bad way to roll out.

    Kyle and Carrie became engaged in February, and began dating July, after she weathered storm of controversy over her remarks at the Miss USA pageant.

    Congratulations to the happy newlyweds!

  1632. Plunketthead Says:

    Lingerie model Larissa Riquelme to strip naked despite Paraguay defeat

    Thousands of Paraguayan men depressed by the nation’s heart-rendering defeat to Spain in the World Cup have been given something to cheer about with the news lingerie model Larissa Riquelme is to honour her pledge to strip naked.

    ‘It will be a present to all of the players, and for all the people in Paraguay to enjoy,’ she said.
    ‘They tried as hard as possible and gave it their all on the field.’

    Dam, What a woman!!

  1633. Seymour Bush Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    July 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Exploring space didn’t even make the top three things Obama wants Bolden to accomplish.
    ==============================================

    We all want self supporting colonies on the moon. With what $$$$ are we going to pay for space exploration? Given the fact that Bush/Cheney and you conservatives pissed away over a trillion dollars on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

  1634. Plunketthead Says:

    Use the money that you said would make oil run from rooftops

  1635. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    July 5th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Use the money that you said would make oil run from rooftops
    ====================================================

    I never said we could make oil from rooftops. I said we can make electricity from rooftops. In fact most countries in the world other than ours are going that way. And then they are using that electricity to power vehicles. In fact the number one country on earth doing THAT is China. But you keep your head in the sand plunkethead. Heck, if you bury it far enough, you might find oil.

  1636. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    JaMarcus has been arrested. Turn on ESPN

  1637. Seymour Bush Says:

    plunketthead I don’t know why you would even WANT to go out exploring space. Every extraterrestrial you would encounter would think your conservative policies were horsesh** there too. In fact your only hope would be to spend all that money on a time machine that would take you so far back to caveman times where your policies might make sense. The operative word being “might”.

  1638. stoopidmike Says:

    As im watching sportscenter, they said “and coming up, the latest on the arrest of JaMarcus Russell”…..Anybody know anything about this? Just tried to find something on the net…nothing

  1639. art shells clipboard Says:

    This just in: Jamarcus busted for possession of controlled substance!!!!

  1640. Midwest Fan Says:

    Can’t wait to hear this story on Russell

  1641. Seymour Bush Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 5th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    JaMarcus has been arrested. Turn on ESPN
    ===================================================

    Hopefully for possession of tons of heroin and rock cocaine.

  1642. stoopidmike Says:

    DUI is my bet

  1643. stoopidmike Says:

    Codiene syrup…no surprise…He is from the south

  1644. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Codeine Syrup

  1645. Midwest Fan Says:

    Codine?

  1646. Seymour Bush Says:

    That charge won’t stick.

  1647. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Your prayers have been answered AD. Do I hear grievence victory. JaLoser!!!!

  1648. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Several players have been suspended for codeine syrup.
    Johnny Jolly for one.

  1649. Seymour Bush Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 5th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Your prayers have been answered AD. Do I hear grievence victory. JaLoser!!!!
    ====================================================

    That’s probably the best point of all. That idiotic mistake probably cost Russell millions in the Raiders grievance. Hahahahahaha.

  1650. 504 Raider Says:

    That stuff is very addictive and causes you to gain major weight. He must have been on it a while….All that UGK he was listening to in his Escalade and at the crib.

  1651. RaiderTW Says:

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38098689/ns/sports-player_news/
    JaMarcus Russell arrested for drug possession

    Free agent JaMarcus Russell was arrested Monday afternoon for possession of a controlled substance, said to be codeine syrup or “Sizzurp.”

    The arrest took place after an undercover investigation of Russell’s home. Booked at 4:22PM Monday, the former No. 1 overall pick was released “minutes later” after posting $2,500 bail. Already drawing scant interest on the free agent market, Russell won’t latch on with an NFL team anytime soon after this news. He is scheduled to appear in court next on July 20th.

    Is this the same as Jesus Juice Mikey Jackson used to f*ck little boys after they got drunk? Or this what they call redneck Robitussin?

  1652. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    It’s called “purple Drank” Its main ingredient is prescription-strength cough syrup containing codeine and promethazine.[1] Cough syrup is typically mixed with ingredients such as 7Up soft drink and pieces of Jolly Rancher candy. The purplish hue of purple drank comes from dyes in the cough syrup.

  1653. 504 Raider Says:

    Sizzurp was made popular by Rappers from South Texas, namely UGK and DJ Screw (who OD’d and died from it). Loud slow rap music and syrup drinking and blunt smokin. It’s a down south Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia way of relaxing. Just about every part of Louisiana (EXCEPT NEW ORLEANS) does it as well. Down in the N.O. we don’t do no country azz sh!t like that.

  1654. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    That came from wiki. Sorry for the cut and paste. I’m not used to the hip-hop drug culture.

  1655. 504 Raider Says:

    Al Davis 2

    Lane Kiffin 0

    JaMarcus Russell 0

  1656. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    JerryMac, you just got scooped by your blog.

  1657. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Free agent JaMarcus Russell was arrested Monday afternoon for possession of a controlled substance, said to be codeine syrup or “Sizzurp.”
    The arrest took place after an undercover investigation of Russell’s home. Booked at 4:22PM Monday, the former No. 1 overall pick was released “minutes later” after posting $2,500 bail. Already drawing scant interest on the free agent market, Russell won’t latch on with an NFL team anytime soon after this news. He is scheduled to appear in court next on July 20th.
    Source: Mobile Press-Register

  1658. toec Says:

    purple drank!! w00t!

  1659. ALSSOUL Says:

    Did anyone read the Willie Gault interview on cnnsi looks 30 n still runs a 4.37 n set world records n wants a tryout 4 a team n u know Al heck wont cost much n sell some tix .

  1660. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From PFT:

    …….Daniela Werner of the Mobile (Ala.) Press-Register reports that Russell was arrested in his home during an undercover investigation that resulted in the discovery of codeine syrup, which often is mixed with soda and called “purple drank” or “lean” or “sizzurp.”

    One and the same. LOL

    Great news to finish my day!

  1661. RNOraiderFan Says:

    So J Russell got busted with some codine cough syrup. I’m sure he was taking it for a vald medical reason, we all know he is a choaker!

  1662. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Bad joke, who cares.

  1663. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    New copy and paste post from Steve Cochran.

  1664. severeraiderz Says:

    So J Russell got busted with some codine cough syrup. I’m sure he was taking it for a vald medical reason, we all know he is a choaker!

    ==========================================================

    Russell been sippin that barre

  1665. fat kidd Says:

    JaMarcus Russell Arrested for Possession of Controlled Substance12
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    7/05/2010 7:20 PM ET By R.J. White

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    In what will likely be the straw that breaks the very large, overweight camel’s back for his NFL career, JaMarcus Russell was arrested for possession of a controlled substance, as reported by Daniela Werner of the Alabama Press-Register.

    The arrest came as part of an undercover investigation by the Mobile County sheriff’s office, who revealed the controlled substance in question was codeine syrup.

    The former Oakland Raiders quarterback has been released on bail and has a court date set for July 20.

    Despite showing next to no ability in the NFL since stepping on to a bad Raiders team as the No. 1 overall pick in 2007, Russell had been looking to sign with an NFL team as a backup after being released by the Raiders this past May.

    Predictably, there was little interest (if any) from NFL teams in regards to acquiring Russell’s services.

    This arrest is likely to scare off any potential suitors, which means Russell could have played his last down in the NFL.

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