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Camp questions: Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, July 14th, 2010 at 10:01 am in Oakland Raiders.

With reporting day two weeks away, the second in a series of questions and issues to be sorted out in Napa:

With a full training camp, can Richard Seymour elevate the play of the entire defensive line?

When Seymour signed his exclusive franchise free agent tender on June 19, it meant the nine-year veteran would be in camp on time, taking the Nnamdi Asomugha approach to being franchised rather than showing up for the opener like Charles Woodson.

Coach Tom Cable worked overtime last year stressing Seymour’s influence on the rest of the defensive linemen, end Matt Shaughnessy and tackle Desmond Bryant in particular.

But at the end of the season, the Raiders remained deficient against the run (29th in the NFL), continued to allow rushing touchdowns (24) at a pre-Seymour rate and were middle of the road in terms of a pass rush (34 sacks). When playing as much man-to-man coverage as the Raiders do, pressure on the quarterback must rise above mediocre.

By season’s end, Seymour had four sacks _ down from eight a in 2008 _ to go along with 47 tackles and a forced fumble. Two of those sacks came in a remarkable Monday night opener against San Diego just two days after he reported while sorting out his personal affairs and getting used to the idea of being traded from the New England Patriots for a 2011 first-round draft pick.

Seymour has never been big in the sacks department, but his reputation in New England was of a player who was so difficult to block he made everyone else better on an ever-changing multiple defense _ often as an end in a 3-4 scheme.

With the Raiders, Seymour, according to Football Outsiders, had a team-high 17 hurries and was named to their “No-Help All-Stars” team, indicating he hadn’t exactly elevated the games of other linemen such as Tommy Kelly and since departed veterans Gerard Warren and Greg Ellis.

The Raiders are counting on a full training camp making a difference, with Seymour showing the way to the likes of Shaughnessy, Bryant, Jay Richardson and rookie second-round pick Lamarr Houston.

Another factor is the return of line coach Mike Waufle, whose job it will be to bring a unit mentality to a group which has shown the raw ability to beat the man in front of them but too often fails to cover for each other.

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133 Responses to “Camp questions: Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?”

  1. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1st!

  2. aig Says:

    repost … anyone up for creating a fantasy league on yahoo? If so, drop the pw and id pls. thanks.

  3. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Thec07 Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 7:54 am
    Wigg, what up Brethren? the “so-calleds” beleive they are GOD’s choosen…
    -======================================================
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    All religions believe they are the only way. Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc. More people are killed for religious conflict than any other reason. The Koran separates into believers and infidels. Jews into Jews and Goyim. Christians do the same. Hindus fight Sikh.
    That’s it for my religious take.
    ——–
    Guess who’s on a misson for “god”?
    Sharron Angle Latest Republican to Claim God is on Her Side
    http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/sharron-angle-latest-republican-to-claim-god-on-her-side

    The balls on these Republicans. Besides any race claiming they “read” the mind of god!?!?!?
    =============================================

    That’s the conservatives only hope: To convince other conservative idiots that they have a direct line to God Almighty and that The Good Lord is completely pissed about US deficit spending. Of course God has already addressed these lying thieving conservatives 21 centuries ago. He called them “false prophets.”

  4. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:05 am
    The Oakland Coliseum is a dump with a lesson
    By jhornberg in Minor Lines
    July 11, 2010

    Many of those who read the Advocate will never get to experience the wonder that is the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.

    While on vacation in California visiting family and friends, I went with a couple of friends twice to this epic concrete failure of architecture to watch the Oakland Athletics battle their opponent of the day in front of a crowd that could usually be counted on one hand.

    When the A’s aren’t winning, Oakland fans stay home. And based on the surroundings, any person in their right mind can’t blame them.

    The Coliseum is built in one of America’s most dangerous cities, and is located in one of that city’s most dangerous areas. Outside the Coliseum’s parking lots is thuggery of a near epic proportion, and a walk to the nearby rapid-transit train can be harrowing when made on non-game days.

    And the conditions inside aren’t much better. Bleacher seats hang off a cliff, a good 20 to 30 feet off the playing field. There isn’t a good seat in the outfield, as most of them have obstructed views of the everything that isn’t the infield. You can’t sit in the upper deck any more — they’ve covered those seats with tarps because the A’s make no money by selling them. About half of the middle deck seats — or upper deck for A’s games — aren’t even in view of the scoreboards at the Coliseum.

    Coliseum attendants are rude wage slaves who act as though they hate their job as much as they hate you. Then again, if you spent your night watching A’s baseball, would you be happy?

    And then football season rolls around. By mid-August, the outfield will be a groundskeeper’s nightmare of dying grass and potholes from seating structure supports. The Oakland Raiders still haunt the Coliseum on Sundays, and their presence can be seen in the waning days of the season as the outfield grass slowly changes to match the color of the infield. It’s really a pathetic site to behold.

    The Coliseum is among the last of a deservedly dying breed – the convertible cookie cutter, circular in shape with nothing descript about it. Its concourses are so small it makes 15,000 people seem like a lot, but it’s seating bowl is so damn cavernous it swallows 35,000 whole (a sellout for the Athletics.)

    Right now, Oakland is the only team in MLB that plays in one and has no realistic plans to replace it. Florida will be moving out of its stadium in 2012 into a shiny new stadium built on top of the old Orange Bowl. There are plans, but nothing has been solid.

    Yet the Coliseum experience is one many fans need to experience. It’s something that baseball fans from newer generations need to see once in their lifetime, that baseball wasn’t always played in a theme park with trains and wonderful architecture. That life at the ballpark wasn’t always as idyllic as it is at the Juicebox.

    Sometimes, the stadium matches the harsh realities of the city it’s in and the team on the field. The Coliseum, for all its faults, seems fittingly drab.

    Rather, the sport spent the days before steroids wallowing in smelly pits best forgotten. Places built to accomodate more than one sport, and neither one in optimal conditions. The game was played in charmless concrete mazes better off blown up than remembered.

    http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/weblogs/almost-there/2010/jul/11/the-oakland-coliseum-is-a-dump-with-a-lesson/

  5. Seymour Bush Says:

    With a full training camp, can Richard Seymour elevate the play of the entire defensive line?
    =============================================

    For $13+mm he better.

  6. Kirk Says:

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.

  7. RNOraiderFan Says:

    If the Raiders do play some 3-4 with Seymour,Houston,Kelly, who is going to be the NT? also the LBs will be Wimbley,McClain,Scott, so who will be the other ILB?

  8. Seymour Bush Says:

    Regarding #4, as long as this Hornberg guy is ready to write a $700mm check for a new stadium, I am sure the citizens of Alameda County will cheerfully accept it.

  9. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Catching Up With Nnamdi Asomugha
    By Ed Yevelev
    Since his breakout eight-interception campaign in 2006, former Cal safety Nnamdi Asomugha has become one of the NFL most feared cornerbacks as a member of the Oakland Raiders. Opposing quarterbacks have targeted him no more than 31 times over each of the past three seasons.

    His accomplishments outside of football are notable, as well. Asomugha was recently awarded the “Whizzer” White NFL Man of the Year award for his extensive community service work.

    The Daily Cal caught up with Asomugha through an email exchange, where he talked about his life on and off the field.

    Ed Yevelev: What has it been like for you to still play here in the Bay Area?

    Nnamdi Asomugha: It (has) been an amazing experience being able to stay local and stay in the Bay Area. I had the best four years at Berkeley when I was in school and the fact that I was still able to stay and be around Oakland, San Francisco, and Berkeley is something that makes me feel blessed.

    It made my transition into the NFL much easier because I was already familiar with the area so all I had to do was focus on football. A lot of guys aren’t so lucky.

    There is so much uncertainty surrounding the NFL draft so you never have a good idea where you end up playing. I’ve been in California most of my life and I knew it would be great to stay.

    EY: Before your last year at Cal, the program was going through some tough times. Has that experience helped you deal with the Raiders’ struggles at all?

    NA: I can never get used to losing because I’m such a competitor. I think once my team gets on the winning track I’ll be able to look back at the struggles of previous years and really be able to feel the payoff from the hard work put in during those tough times.

    EY: What were some of your best memories while playing for Cal, and while at Berkeley in general?

    NA: I remember my first interception at Cal. It my sophomore year and we were playing against UCLA who was ranked pretty high nationally at the time. I remember I got my very first interception and I ran it in for a touchdown.

    And I remember how wild the Berkeley crowd went after that because it was such a rivalry that we knew we had to win. We ended up winning that game in overtime and it was the best feelings that at I had with the program.

    I have tons of great moments from my time at Cal.

    From sneaking into movies at Wheeler Auditorium to the concerts at the Greek Theater. From the last second office hours before the dreaded finals to the bonfires before the big game versus Stanford. Oh, and let’s not forget the random daily protests that would occupy Sproul Hall.

    EY: How much do you follow the Bears today? Do you keep in touch with any recent or current players?

    NA: I try to get out to at least three games each year. Sometimes it’s tough because we’re playing the very next Sunday and we may have traveled out of town but I definitely keep a close watch and brag about the Bears as much as I possibly can. I am still really good friends with a number of guys that have come through Cal football including Kyle Boller and DeSean Jackson.

    EY: You’ve made television cameos on “Friday Night Lights” and “The Game.” How did you get into acting, and is that something you’re considering doing later on?

    NA: I can’t say that I’ve always wanted to be an actor, but I can say I’ve always known how to entertain a crowd. I would get in trouble a lot of times in school for disrupting a class because of my sudden urge for wanting to make people laugh.

    My teachers would always say, “You’re going be on TV one day because you’re not afraid of being in the ‘moment.”’ I did a couple plays and took a couple of classes growing up and that at point I knew it was something I wanted to really do. It’s definitely something I want to continue to get better at and continue to do, so be on the lookout.

    EY: You’ve been involved in a numerous philanthropy projects. Did the activist culture of Berkeley influence you at all?

    NA: The Asomugha College Tour for Scholars (ACTS) was a program that I started four years ago with the intent of exposing high school students from at-risk, under-served communities to the infinite possibilities that exist outside of their difficult environments.

    I’ve been able to now take the students to colleges in Atlanta, Boston, New York City, and Washington, DC. The sheer joy and excitement that they experience and the belief that anything is possible is probably what is most rewarding about it for me.

    I was involved in several community service projects while I was at Cal. It’s never too early to start helping out in the community and that was one thing I learned at Berkeley with my work at Stiles Hall and all the service that we did there.

    http://www.dailycal.org/article/109817/catching_up_with_nnamdi_asomugha

  10. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    —”The Baltimore Sun predicts that NT Terrence Cody will have the biggest impact among all of the Ravens’ rookies this season. Cody’s competition isn’t exactly stiff, with top Ravens pick Sergio Kindle backing up Jarret Johnson, and mid-round TEs Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta competing to be second on the depth chart. Cody will have to revamp his body in order to be an every-down player, but he’ll help right away in rushing situations”—

    - I still cry myself to sleep each night :/

  11. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    When has that ripple effect ever happened here? We sign a good player, and not even they produce, let alone the rest of the team in their presence. Once these players realize what they’ve walked into in Oakland, they give up.

  12. RaiderRockstar Says:

    20 lbs is easy to get, just take a day or two in the school of Jamarcus..

    ***

    LOL @ LMN. good one bro!

    what does a JaWalrus diet consist of, besides sizzurp ???

  13. aig Says:

    LMN,

    with our environment, Cody would never live up to his potential. He needs to be around Ray Lewis who can control the intensity and locker room there.

  14. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Report: Charles Woodson escapes fire that destroyed home

    The reigning NFL defensive player of the year made it to safety in Michigan on Saturday when a multi-million dollar home in tony Bay Harbor was destroyed by a fire.

    Woodson and his business partner Rick Ruiz were among 11 people still in the home after 4 a.m. following a party, according to Bill Michaels of WTMJ in Milwaukee. The home was completely destroyed in the blaze.

    The Green Bay Packers cornerback was likely in attendance because the party was celebrating a large gift to the University of Michigan Women’s Hospital. Woodson, of course, donated $2 million to the hospital last year.

    Fortunately, no one was injured in the fire, the cause of which has not yet been determined.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Charles-Woodson-escapes-fire-that-destroyed-home.html

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Thanks for the $2mil Chuck. Class act. Go Blue.

  15. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.

    ……………..

    I think Belichick takes advantage of Al Davis, butters him up with all of this, “Al knows the game, he’s my friend” stuff, and then offers him washed up players or players with expensive back ended contracts for draft picks.

  16. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The Patriots get big players in their prime by loading up the back end of their contracts, knowing Al Davis will wind up paying for it, basically.

  17. La Milicia Negra Says:

    #

    # aig Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    LMN,

    with our environment, Cody would never live up to his potential. He needs to be around Ray Lewis who can control the intensity and locker room there.
    ________________________________________________________

    well i hope Rolando is the reincarnation of Ray Lewis, so had we picked both Rolando and Cody, our D would instantly be 100% better…

    then Seymour wouldnt be such a need to resign either…

  18. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Belichick takes advantage of Al Davis, butters him up with all of this, “Al knows the game, he’s my friend” stuff, and then offers him washed up players or players with expensive back ended contracts for draft picks.

    ***

    as much as I hate to admit it, this is true …

    Shanny did it to us with Gerard Warren too!

  19. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    ***

    Kirk: couldn’t agree more

    pretty doggone solid supporting cast in N.E. during thier championship years and the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season

    if Tommy Kelly ever decides to become the dominant force everybody thought he had the potential to be, Seymour wouldn’t be needed. If Houston or Bryant step up, Little Richard might be out next year anyways …

    I’m glad Al Davis tagged Seymour though instead of trading away a 1st rounder on a 1-year rental that improved the defense NADA. John Henderson & Rolando McClain might make all the difference. Sey isn’t expected to carry the defense or even the D-Line anymore

  20. aig Says:

    LMN, good point

  21. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bo knew sports weren’t forever

    By BILL SHAIKIN
    Los Angeles Times

    So many sluggers, no one to lead off. But Bo could run. That was his winter job in Los Angeles, for the NFL’s Raiders.

    Bo Jackson played in his one and only baseball All-Star game in 1989, in Anaheim. Tony La Russa, the American League manager, told Jackson he would bat first for the home team.

    “I was shocked,” Jackson said. “I was just happy to be in the company of so many great athletes.

    “When he said I was leading off, that meant one thing to me: I had to get my stuff in gear a little earlier than I had planned to.”

    That he did. The Kansas City Royals outfielder delivered a lasting All-Star memory with his very first swing, driving a pitch 448 feet, far beyond the center-field fence and halfway up the tarps that covered seats so distant that they were used only for Rams football games.

    Jackson, one of the most celebrated athletes of his generation, transcended the sporting world and became a pop culture icon. His Nike commercials turned “Bo knows” into a catchphrase, playing off Jackson’s ability to perform outrageous feats in multiple sports.

    A Heisman Trophy winner at Auburn and No. 1 NFL pick, he returned to major league baseball after hip replacement surgery.

    He’ll take the field in Anaheim again Sunday, for a celebrity softball game. It’s the same place where he was most valuable player in the 1989 game and finished his career with the Angels in 1994.

    “I think a lot about Gene Autry, meeting and talking with him,” Jackson said, referring to the Angels’ founding owner.

    “I think about the man walking through the clubhouse with his cowboy boots on – every day, a different pair of boots.”

    The Angels had what Jackson called “a somewhat decent team” in 1994, though its .409 winning percentage during the shortened season was the Angels’ worst in the last 20 years.

    Jackson batted .279, with 13 home runs in 75 games. The players went out on strike as part of a labor dispute in August, the season was canceled, and Jackson retired at 31.

    He had offers to play in 1995 but wasn’t interested.

    “I knew deep in my heart that, if we had a strike and it lasted for the rest of the season, I wasn’t coming back,” Jackson said. “My kids were in elementary school. If I had the opportunity to be home with them – to get up in the morning with them, to make breakfast for them, to take them to school, to go to parent-teacher conferences – I knew I wouldn’t be back.

    “I got home, and I got a taste of freedom.”

    His football career had ended because of a hip injury on Jan. 13, 1991.

    “Here’s what people don’t know,” he said. “On Jan. 9, my wife and I sat down at the table, at our place in Playa del Rey. We decided that, when the season was over, I was going to retire from football, even though I had a year left on my contract.”

    Jackson said he and his wife agreed that moving their children so often – from Kansas City for baseball season to Los Angeles for football season, back home to Alabama for the off-season and then back to Kansas City – was not healthy.

    “God works in mysterious ways,” Jackson said. “The way I look at it, I dislocated my hip, so I didn’t have to retire.”

    The Raiders did not last much longer in Los Angeles. They abandoned the Coliseum and returned to Oakland after the 1994 season.

    “This is my opinion, and my opinion only, but the reason the Raiders left Los Angeles was because of the condition of our place of work,” Jackson said. “The public just got to see the outside of the stadium, which is beautiful.

    “But, after a game, we had to stand in line to take a shower. There were 20 or 25 shower heads – and only four of them had a steady stream of water coming out of them.”

    The hip injury might have derailed his rush to greatness in one sport, or two, not that he would accept any pity.

    “Don’t feel bad for me,” he said. “I didn’t get into sports to make it to the Hall of Fame, or to be the home run king, or to break Walter Payton’s record. I got into sports because I saw it as a way to open other doors.”

    Jackson resides in the Chicago area and is president of a company that manages his affairs and another that manages an indoor sports complex. He also serves on the board of directors for a local bank.

    He steered himself on a post-sports career path even in college, so he says he did not agonize over retirement and the loss of fame and fortune.

    Jackson said, “Sports was never the center of my universe for this simple reason: I knew where I wanted to be by the time I was in my mid- to late 30s. That was out of sports completely, and into business.”

    He said he saw what other college athletes could not see, or chose not to see.

    “A lot of kids don’t realize the gravy train is going to come to an end,” he said. “They have no formal education, no business sense, no money management skills. They just have to live with that.

    “I made it a point to learn as much as I could in college.”

    That, he said, might be the most valuable bit of advice he could share with his three children.

    “If my two sons were the top two high school baseball players on the planet, and everybody wanted to make them instant millionaires,” he said, “they would still have to spend at least three years in college – not to hone their skills, but to get an education.”

    His skills will be on display one more time in Sunday’s softball game, even if his primary talent might now be vocal.

    “When they said I could play in the softball game, I said, ‘Sure.’ That is just an hour and a half of trash talk, fun and entertaining the fans,” Jackson said, “and catching up with people I haven’t seen in 15 or 20 years. I’m very much looking forward to it.”

    http://www.sacbee.com/2010/07/12/2884144/bo-knew-sports-werent-forever.html#ixzz0tgETYxIv

  22. RaiderKen Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am
    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.
    _______________________________________________________

    Overrated? NO overpaid? What about Kelly. If you really think this you need to look at the tape of last season and figure out the only DL to stop the run was Seymour. On most passing downs he was moved to DT and double teamed by the Center and Guard. Not really the best position to get after the QB. I’ll agree overpaid, but never overrated.

  23. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “I would get in trouble a lot of times in school for disrupting a class”

    sneaking into movies at Wheeler Auditorium?

    ***

    should have traded N21 for Ben Peepeeburger

  24. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good game Richard

    http://www.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/aef_ct_wire_image_lightbox/images/afp/photo_1262566073418-1-0.jpg

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    this guy got a 2nd round tender!

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2010-01/51421971.jpg

  26. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/12/16/sp-onthenfl17_ph_0495974127.jpg

    MVP!

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://wassupsports.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/allen-iverson-sixers.jpg

    MVP!

  28. HairyBush Says:

    I’ll show you a ripple effect

  29. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Three thousand nuclear warheads?

    Gee whiz! That would leave us virtually defenseless!

    This article – http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100713/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_nuclear_stockpile – proves that Obama is a traitor (if not also a foreign-born Muslim usurper of the U.S. presidency).

    Clearly, it’s time for another Tea Party rally of people carrying misspelled signs.

    Obama’s lilly-livered pacifism reminds me of Ronald Reagan’s foolish dreams of nuclear disarmament.

  30. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lamar Odom traded to the Denver Nuggets in exchange for Chris “The Birdman” Andersen and future cash considerations … Lakers now in hot pursuit of Raja Bell

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Cleveland Cavaliers’ pursuit of Hawks swingman Marvin Williams centers at the moment on trying to convince the Hawks to do a sign-and-trade deal that would send Shaquille O’Neal to Atlanta, according to a league source. The Hawks do have an interest in the 38-year-old O’Neal, who is not likely to return to Cleveland next season. But Atlanta has budget limitations after agreeing to give guard Joe Johnson a $124 million max contract, with ownership unlikely to approve a deal for O’Neal or any other backup center that goes much above the veteran minimum. The Hawks are also interested in free agent center Brad Miller and Bucks free agent center Kurt Thomas.

    Cleveland got a $14.5 million trade exception by agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal for LeBron James to Miami, in addition to two future draft picks from the Heat. The Cavs could use part of the exception to absorb Williams’s $6.7 million salary for next season.

    For 2010-11, the Hawks’ savings would be the difference between the $6.7 million owed Marvin and Shaq’s new salary. For 2011-12, the savings would be Marvin’s $7.5 million salary minus Shaq’s salary. Shaq and Marvin would both be off the books in 2012-13, when Marvin makes $8.3 million, and the Hawks wouldn’t be on the hook for Marvin’s $7.5 million option in 2013-14.

    The Charlotte Bobcats are close to acquiring Shaun Livingston to help address their hole at point guard, an informed source told the Observer Wednesday.

    Signing Livingston would likely preclude the team from other options, such as trading for Minnesota’s Ramon Sessions or Indiana’s T.J. Ford, at least for now.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

  32. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    ***

    Kirk: couldn’t agree more

    pretty doggone solid supporting cast in N.E. during thier championship years and the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season

    if Tommy Kelly ever decides to become the dominant force everybody thought he had the potential to be, Seymour wouldn’t be needed. If Houston or Bryant step up, Little Richard might be out next year anyways …

    I’m glad Al Davis tagged Seymour though instead of trading away a 1st rounder on a 1-year rental that improved the defense NADA. John Henderson & Rolando McClain might make all the difference. Sey isn’t expected to carry the defense or even the D-Line anymore
    ————————————-

    I have to say that I live in Massachusetts and see and hear way to much about the Patriots. To say the Pats “didn’t miss a beat” without Seymour last year is an ignorant statement to say it nicely-They were a mess!. Do your research.

  33. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Matt Bonner signed just signed the biggest contract of his life — four years, $16 million.

    He is now living it large (as told to the News Express), rolling into the local deli with a new attitude.

    “When I splurge,” Bonner said, “I’m going to order double meat on my sandwich.”

    Just like Notorious B.I.G. said, “Mo Money, Mo Meat…” or something like that.

    Bonner – a stretch four, if you have to define him — is one of those players more valuable to the team he is with than he is on the open market. Look at it this way, according to 82games.com, Boner led the Spurs in +/- two seasons ago and was third this season behind Manu Ginobili. While that stat is not perfect, the fact is if the team is that much better when he is on the court over two seasons, he has value.

    Boner isn’t flashy, on or off the court. Which also fits in with the Spurs. He likes a good deli, not fancy foods.

    And the man likes his meat.

    -PBT

    LOL!

  34. RaiderRockstar Says:

    To say the Pats “didn’t miss a beat” without Seymour last year is an ignorant statement to say it nicely-They were a mess!. Do your research.

    ***

    HB,

    2008 (with Seymour): 10th total defense, 15th run defense

    2009 (without Seymour): 11th total defense, 13th run defense

  35. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Right-wing machine attacks Michelle for focusing on childhood obesity
    by Jed Lewison

    The headline on Drudge Report was sinister, touching off racially paranoid fantasies in each of the 11 or so states where his site is still popular:

    “Michelle Tells Blacks to Increase Intensity”

    Increase intensity? Oh no! Michelle Obama is telling African Americans to band together to fight white people! Michele Bachmann and Glenn Beck were right! She’s coming to get us! They are coming to get us! And I’m scared!

    I was so freaked out that I actually followed Drudge’s link. And it sent me here, to an ABC News story mentioning nothing about the First Lady telling blacks to “increase intensity.”

    Huh? What was going on here? I thought Michelle Obama was trying to rile up blacks. Was ABC now participating in a conspiracy to cover up her remarks, just like the MSM stamped out the “get whitey” video tape?

    I needed to know the answers to these questions. So I hit the Google and Binged the search and found that rightwingers were all talking about Michelle Obama’s sinister comment.

    But I still couldn’t find what it was that she had said. Nonetheless, I knew that what she said must have been wrong. Everybody was outraged, and they should have been.

    It’s one thing when wingers give a speech to fundamentalist American Taliban whackjobs or run political ads calling President Obama a slavemaster, but it’s quite another thing when the First Lady speaks to the NAACP in an election year and tells blacks that now is the time to “increase intensity.” That is fanning the flames of racism, pure and simple. Right?

    But there was still part of me that wanted to see her full, unsnipped remarks. I just had to see each and every one of her awful, wretched words. So I kept on digging until I found the transcript.

    Actually, it turns out that the transcript was at my fingertips the whole time. It was sitting right there in my inbox from the White House Press Office. How nice of them to send me her hate speech.

    So with the transcript now open on the monitor in front of me, I rubbed my hands together, ready — and, yes, I’ll admit, a little bit afraid — to read her militant speech.

    It didn’t take long to find the relevant passage:

    “When African American communities are still hit harder than just about anywhere by this economic downturn, and so many families are just barely scraping by, I think the founders would tell us that now is not the time to rest on our laurels.

    When stubborn inequalities still persist — in education and health, in income and wealth — I think those founders would urge us to increase our intensity, and to increase our discipline and our focus and keep fighting for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. (Applause.)

    And that’s why I really wanted to come here today — because I wanted to talk with you about an issue that I believe cries out for our attention — one that is of particular concern to me, not just as First Lady, but as a mother who believes that we owe it to our kids to prepare them for the challenges that we know lie ahead. And that issue is the epidemic of childhood obesity in America today.”

    The first thing I noticed was that not only did Michelle tell African Americans to “increase intensity” but she also urged more “discipline.” Those were truly frightening words to hear, given that the race war was finally upon us.

    I kept on reading, hoping to gain insight into her battle plan.

    And that’s when it happened. After completing the next paragraph, I realized this wasn’t a speech about race war. In fact, Michelle Obama was talking about the scourge of childhood obesity.

    In a matter of seconds — maybe even faster than that — it dawned on me that I actually agreed with her. In fact, what she was saying was incontrovertibly true. It was obvious. We do need to increase our intensity to combat this important health problem. We do need more discipline in addressing fundamental health problems that hold some of our nation’s children back.

    Suddenly, I felt relieved. It was soothing to know that when it comes to Michelle Obama, there’s nothing to be afraid of. In fact, if you let yourself, you might just get inspired, because her speech was really a speech about love — love of country, love of community, and love for our nation’s children.

    Yet somehow the right-wing noise machine tried to turn her speech into one about hate. And in the end, it says more about them and their fears and their motivations than it does about Michelle Obama or any of the rest of us.

    Their paranoia really is the past. And slowly but surely we will close the door on it and find our way to a better future.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/13/883915/-Right-wing-machine-attacks-Michelle-for-focusing-on-childhood-obesity

  36. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Examples of Republican “compassion” for those who have lost their jobs as a result of the recession:

    Pennsylvania Attorney General Tom Corbett, who is running for governor, said last week that unemployed people are purposely avoiding jobs so they can continue collecting benefits from the government: “The jobs are there. But if we keep extending unemployment, people are going to sit there and – I’ve literally had construction companies tell me, ‘I can’t get people to come back to work until…they say, I’ll come back to work when unemployment runs out.’”

    Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said in March that unemployment benefits don’t “create new jobs. In fact, if anything, continuing to pay people unemployment compensation is a disincentive for them to seek new work.”

    South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer compared the unemployed to stray animals back in January, saying that unemployment insurance is a lot like helping out strays. One is “facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply,” he said. “They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better.”

    In June, Nevada Senate nominee Sharron Angle said that “what has happened is the system of entitlement has caused us to have a spoilage with our ability to go out and get a job.” She added: “They keep extending these unemployment benefits to the point where people are afraid to go out and get a job because the job doesn’t pay as much as the unemployment benefit does.”

    Former House Majority Leader (and former Dancing With The Stars contestant) Tom DeLay appeared on CNN in March to point to “studies that have been done that shows that people stay on unemployment compensation and they don’t look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out.” When host Candy Crowley pointed out that saying “people are unemployed because they want to be” is a “hard sell,” DeLay responded: “Well, it is the truth.”

    Back in May, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) said that Congress needs to think twice about continuing unemployment benefits “because you’re out of the recession, you’re starting to see growth and you’re clearly going to dampen the capacity of that growth if you basically keep an economy that encourages people to, rather than go out and look for work, to stay on unemployment.”

    Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) said in February that he thinks that extending unemployment benefits yet again raises the question: “Is the government now creating hobos?”

  37. Seymour Bush Says:

    If the right wing conservatives have to attack the lst lady, (and they do) it just shows they have NO ANSWERS to what this society needs to get on track.

  38. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Today, even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for our country, he signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil! The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and NOT THE USA! Now here’s the real clincher… the Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil . . . .

    We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever!

    Wait, it gets more interesting. Guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is American BILLIONAIRE, George Soros, who was one of President Obama’s most generous financial supporter during his campaign.

  39. Kirk Says:

    Yikes!

    Raider Rockstar has the facts!

  40. HairyBush Says:

    I knew for a fact that you would bring that out. I am telling you for a fact that I (unfortunetley) had to suffer thru almost every pats game the last few years. I can confidentaly say the Pats were a lost group most of the time last year. I am not just talking about being dimantled by a guy like Peyton Manning, I’m talking about the Broncos game, the Ravens game, and so many others. Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit. I challenge you to watch the games (not just pull up #’s)and I guarantee you will see a DRASTIC difference in overall play. I read this blog daily and I can see You are a amart guy and you know stats only tell part of the story. I.E The Raiders “exceptional” pass defense in 2006 or Richard Seymour last year only getting 4 sacks when we both know he was disruptive in other ways.

  41. Kirk Says:

    Modern day conservatism is the political codification of selfishness.

  42. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I simply do not believe Obama loaned $2bil to a Brazilian company, and that Obamaphobes would make up that lie to discredit his administratoin. So I checked into it:

    Fact check: Obama not involved in loan
    FACT: Brazil is buying American-made equipment and services.

    Truth be told there’s not a lot of truth in this claim.

    The genesis of the e-mail was a Wall Street Journal opinion piece in August 2009 and a November segment on Fox News Channel by host Glenn Beck, according to the fact-finding sources FactCheck.org and Snopes.com.

    On April 14, 2009, the Export-Import Bank approved a preliminary commitment to loan $2 billion to Petroleo Brasileiro S.A. (Petrobras).

    According to its charter, the Ex-Im Bank is an independent federal agency that helps finance the export of U.S. goods and services to international markets. The agency does not compete with private sector banks, but takes on and provides insurance for transactions that might be risky for others.

    The Ex-Im Bank, although mandated to support small business, has come under fire for previous involvement with such companies as Enron and Boeing, research shows. Some unscrupulous exporters also have been imprisoned for fraudulently using Ex-Im Bank money. But the bank says on its website that in the past 16 years, the bank “has netted the American people $4.9 billion and the jobs those exports have supported.”

    In any event, Ex-Im Bank, is a self-sustaining entity; it gets most of its financing from guarantees of loans and the fees it charges. Congress appropriates no money to it, so taxpayer money is not involved.

    Obama did not sign an executive order, nor would he have to for the Petrobras loan to take place, according to FactCheck.org and Snopes.com.

    Not only that, but the members of the bank when the loan decision was made were not appointed by Obama. At the time, the Ex-Im Bank notes, its board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush.

    Snopes.com does point out that the chairman and president of Ex-Im Bank is Fred P. Hochberg, an Obama appointee. But the president did not nominate him to his position until a week after the board approved the loan.

    The e-mail also says that the U.S. will not gain from this loan. Actually, U.S. companies should gain because Petrobras is using the money to buy American-made oilfield equipment and services, according to a July 29, 2009, news release.

    In February 2010, Ex-Im Bank authorized a $308 million medium-term credit guarantee under its $2 billion preliminary commitment to Petrobras. The financing will assist “significant sales from major U.S. exporters and small-business suppliers,” the bank said.

    The e-mail goes on to claim that billionaire George Soros – who has monetarily supported the ideals of the Democratic Party – would “benefit most” from the loan.

    Yes, he would benefit some as a major investor in Petrobras through his New York-basedhedge-fund, notes FactCheck.org and Snopes.com. Soros reduced his stake in the company before any money from the loan was dispensed.

    It is also true that China probably would benefit a little from the oil drilling, FactCheck.org and Snopes.com agree, but it certainly wouldn’t be the sole recipient of the oil. Brazil has agreed to export 200,000 barrels of oil a day to China from 2010 to 2019 in return for a loan from China of $10 billion – five times the amount of the Ex-Im Bank loan.

    http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-07-03/story/fact-check-obama-not-involved-loan

  43. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit

    ***

    HB,

    we weren’t talking about Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau or Ellis Hobbs …

    Seymour only

  44. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Slip of the tongue by 1st Lady.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k

  45. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    AGAIN:

    The members of the bank when the loan decision was made were not appointed by Obama. At the time, the Ex-Im Bank notes, its board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush.

    Obama did not sign an executive order, nor would he have to for the Petrobras loan to take place.

    In any event, Ex-Im Bank, is a self-sustaining entity; it gets most of its financing from guarantees of loans and the fees it charges. Congress appropriates no money to it, so taxpayer money is not involved.

  46. Seymour Bush Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Slip of the tongue by 1st Lady.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
    ===========================================

    Oh right, I forgot Barak Obama is actually a North Korean agent, born in Kenya who is leading our country to ruin so the Chinese Red Army can march in and make us all slaves like the delusional conservatives believe . How could I be so stupid? Rush Limbaugh said it so it must be true.

  47. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 11:57 am
    Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit

    ***

    HB,

    we weren’t talking about Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau or Ellis Hobbs …

    Seymour only
    ————————————
    to quote you-”the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season”

    It sounds to me like your saying the Pats defense was just as good the year he left as years prior. This is where I beg to differ. I only bring other guys into the equasion to defend my point about there team defense not being as good. (regardless of what the #’s say) Seymour was a vital part of the Pats defense, his leadership and solid play were truly missed ecspecialy considering how young the Pats went on defense last year.

  48. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Here’s another conspiracy theory on Obama’s Birth Certificate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtvJ_nM47GM&NR=1

    LMFAO

  49. HairyBush Says:

    RR, BTW, why so down on Dick Seymour?

  50. Seymour Bush Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Here’s another conspiracy theory on Obama’s Birth Certificate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtvJ_nM47GM&NR=1

    LMFAO
    ————————————————-

    To me it would be funny if it wasn’t SO bizarre that knuckleheads actually think this is even remotely possible. But of course we are talking about people like mistabrOwn here, so I guess anything is possible.

  51. J Wiggle Says:

    Wow RRS …

    That Brazilian oil propoganda you tried to pull off gut blown out of the water by BSJ, lol.

    Any response?

  52. MistaBrown Says:

    OakGlen I see you combed through over 1000 posts to find mine and comment. Your like a little mut humping my leg! I make your day you pathetic moron..

  53. HairyBush Says:

    Yahoo sports rankings-linebackers

    17. Oakland: The Raiders made two really nice pickups this offseason at linebacker. The best move was taking Alabama linebacker Rolando McClain in the first round of the draft. The second was trading for Kamerion Wimbley, even if Wimbley isn’t exactly your prototype 4-3 outside linebacker. McClain is a no-nonsense, driven player who has a chance to be another Patrick Willis. That may be saying a lot, but McClain is the rare inside linebacker who can justify being selected in the top 20. As for Wimbley, his pass rush skills are solid, although he needs to play with more urgency all the time. The big question is whether he’ll ever figure out coverage. As for the rest, Trevor Scott and Thomas Howard will duel for the other outside linebacker spot and the depth is good.

  54. Nnamdi21 Says:

    pt.1 of Exclusive interview with Raider Safety Tyvon Branch!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  55. MistaBrown Says:

    Wiggle,
    BsJ is a well documented liar. Sometimes he doesn’t even know who posted what. 0ilbama did lend Brazil 2 bil and his buddy Soros invested in the company. Read between the lines. Corruption at its finest!

    “You read that headline correctly. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

    The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574346610120524166.html

  56. Nnamdi21 Says:

    42. The Wall Street Journal was purchased by Rupert the Na-zi Murdock

  57. MistaBrown Says:

    There’s no bread, let them eat cake
    There’s no end to what they’ll take
    Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
    Wash the salt into the earth
    But they’re marching to Bastille Day
    La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
    Free the dungeons of the innocent
    The king will kneel, and let his kingdom rise

    Bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
    Naked fear on every face
    See them bow their heads to die
    As we would bow as they rode by

    And we’re marching to Bastille Day
    La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
    Sing, o choirs of cacophony
    The king has kneeled, to let his kingdom rise.

    Lessons taught but never learned
    All around us anger burns
    Guide the future by the past
    Long ago the mould was cast

    For they marched up to Bastille Day
    La guillotine – claimed her bloody prize
    Hear the echoes of the centuries
    Power isn’t all that money buys

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    why so down on Dick Seymour?

    ***

    HB, like the rest of us Raider fans … I expected more out of him

    much like Terdell Sands, Tommy Kelly or Gerard Warren he showed up about once every 4 or 5 games.

    As I stated (above), his supporting cast this year might make all the difference, but he certainly didn’t step up his game last year or boost the level of play in the guys around him

    Here’s hoping for better results, not more of the same!

  59. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Seymour’s got gas left in the tank. Should be a good year…

  60. MistaBrown Says:

    Libtards are such mental patients Pres purple drank lips sends Brazil 2 bill a year after Bush left office and they still point the finger @ Bush-Cheney!
    :D

  61. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That Brazilian oil propoganda

    ***

    Jwigg: that was an e-mail forward I received like 10 minutes before I posted it on here. I didn’t care if it was true or not, just thought it was worth reading. I figured a Barack worshipper would challenge it and I was right. no biggie. I don’t watch Fox News and I’m not a mormon, so Glenn Beck’s opinion means nothing to me. sure gets the dems fired up though. LOL!

    Any response?

  62. MistaBrown Says:

    Seymour played about 2 games last year and took the other 14 off. Maybe a decent Qb this year will keep players engaged until December.

  63. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    MistaBrown is right on his oil facts. Also, the Chinese are getting all of Iraq’s future oil contracts. Not a liberal vrs. conservative argument, just a FACT.

  64. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    GOP in Idaho’s Bonner County doesn’t like ‘Fiesta’ theme

    SANDPOINT, Idaho — Some Republicans are unhappy with the Bonner County Fair’s theme of “Fiesta at the Fair,” in light of ongoing battles to stop illegal immigration from Mexico.

    The Bonner County GOP said it will decorate its booth with the word “celebrate” instead of “fiesta.” The Republicans have also asked Arizona officials for some license plates to put in the booth, to show support for that state’s controversial law targeting illegal immigrants.

    “The Republicans at BCRCC want to make it very clear that English is our primary language, and call our booths ‘Celebrate!’ and display some Arizona license plates if you have some to spare,” Bonner County Republican Central Committee Chairman Cornel Rasor wrote in a letter to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, according to The Spokesman-Review newspaper.

    The fair runs Aug. 24-28 in Sandpoint, Idaho, a town with relatively few minorities that is about 90 miles north of Spokane, Wash.

    Bonner County fair board Chairman Tim Cary said the fair was just looking for a theme that’s fun to decorate with, and the choice had nothing to do with official language or immigration disputes.

    Cary noted that one of the fair’s regular offerings is the Mexican food sold at the Search and Rescue booth.

    “Are we supposed to change the name of a burrito to something in English?” Cary said. “I’m thinking there’s some narrow-mindedness here, but that’s just my opinion.”

    The county GOP at its monthly meeting in June voted to “affirm” Arizona’s tough immigration law and to send the letter seeking the license plates for the fair booth to Arizona’s governor.

    Rasor, also a county commissioner, sought to distance himself from the clash Wednesday but acknowledged he signed and sent the letter.

    “Having a fiesta theme at the fair was OK with me, I didn’t even think about it ’til somebody brought it up,” Rasor said. “But their concerns are very real to them, so I don’t want to downplay it.”

    Rasor said the words “fiesta” and “celebrate” mean the same thing.

    “So technically speaking we didn’t have a different theme than the fair, it’s just a different spelling,” he said.

    Last year’s fair theme was “A Black Tie and Blue Jeans Affair.”

    The Arizona law, not yet in effect, is intended to drive illegal immigrants out of Arizona and discourage them from coming in the first place. It requires police investigating another crime to ask people about their immigration status if there’s “reasonable suspicion” they’re in the country illegally. It also makes being in the country illegally a misdemeanor under state law.

    The Idaho Legislature may consider a similar law in its next session.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700046570/GOP-in-Idahos-Bonner-County-doesnt-like-Fiesta-theme.html

  65. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
    why so down on Dick Seymour?

    ***

    HB, like the rest of us Raider fans … I expected more out of him

    much like Terdell Sands, Tommy Kelly or Gerard Warren he showed up about once every 4 or 5 games.

    As I stated (above), his supporting cast this year might make all the difference, but he certainly didn’t step up his game last year or boost the level of play in the guys around him

    Here’s hoping for better results, not more of the same!
    ——————————
    I also want and expect more from him. perhaps you are being a little harsh saying he only shows up once every 4-5 games ala Turd sands. I think he did what he could do (for the most part). The biggest thing I would like to focus on is him elevating the play of guys around him. We can agree that he can definetley step it up in that department. Well here’s to hope for this upcoming training camp and season. Raider nation

  66. MistaBrown Says:

    BsJ is clueless because he spends his life on libtard blogs and left wing news sources like the NY times. The poor little mope hasn’t a fighting chance of pulling his head out of his bunghole.

  67. HairyBush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    Seymour played about 2 games last year and took the other 14 off. Maybe a decent Qb this year will keep players engaged until December.
    —————————-
    Just because he only had sacks in 2 games last year doesn’t mean he was non exsistant the other 14.It is a little extreme to imply he didn’t contribute. Let’s just agree that we all want more from him after a #1 pick was surrendered. Hopefully he will be the mentor we all want this training camp!

  68. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Steve Blake: ‘I’m extremely excited to be coming here to the Lakers.’

    The Lakers’ newest acquisition, guard Steve Blake, spoke as if he had joined the two-time defending champions, which, in fact, he officially did.

    Blake was effusive in his praise for the Lakers while he met with reporters Wednesday.

    “I’m extremely excited to be coming here to the Lakers,” he said. “As a player who wants to win and has won championships at every level except the NBA, I think this is the best place to be.”

    Blake, who signed a four-year, $16-million contract with the Lakers earlier this month, won a national championship at the University of Maryland in 2002.

    Blake, 30, said he was ready to play for the Lakers regardless of time or situation.

    “I look forward to coming in here, whether it’s starting or coming off the bench, and being productive,” he said.

    Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak said Blake would probably be a reserve, though it would be up to Coach Phil Jackson.

    “We expect Derek [Fisher] in all likelihood to start and play big minutes, but Derek is soon to be 36, so we know we need a player in the backcourt to spell Derek in relief and also going forward,” he said.

    Blake has averaged 7.5 points and 4.3 assists a game while shooting 39.3% from three-point range in a seven-year career with Washington, Portland, Denver, Milwaukee and the Clippers.

    – Mike Bresnahan

    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/

  69. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The poor little mope hasn’t a fighting chance

    ***

    Brown: thanks for bringing back the word “mope”

    HAHAHA

    I haven’t heard anybody use it since that Bloodhound Gang song 10 years ago!

    sort of like MR calling somebody a “rube”

  70. J Wiggle Says:

    Jwigg: that was an e-mail forward I received like 10 minutes before I posted it on here. I didn’t care if it was true or not,

    Any response?

    ——————————————————

    Didn’t care if it was true or not?

    Wow!

    Isn’t that the definition of propoganda?

  71. RaiderRockstar Says:

    As a player who wants to win and has won championships at every level except the NBA – Steve Blake

    ***

    oh… you mean the one that matters?

    hahaha. what a mope!

  72. RaiderRockstar Says:

    propoganda

    ***

    Who ???

  73. HairyBush Says:

    sort of like MR calling somebody a “rube”

    I think the last time I heard someone use “rube” It was coming from the mouth of Hannibal Lecter.

    hmmm Hannibal Lecter/MaddenRaider they are both warped!

  74. J Wiggle Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    MistaBrown is right on his oil facts. Also, the Chinese are getting all of Iraq’s future oil contracts

    ——————————————————-

    Really?

  75. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think the last time I heard someone use “rube” It was coming from the mouth of Hannibal Lecter.

    ***

    Exactly :)

  76. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg talking up Stan Routt yesterday = hidden agenda

    are you his agent?

    an original round tender (the lowest possible) for him would have been too much!

  77. Seymour Bush Says:

    # MistaBrown Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    OakGlen I see you combed through over 1000 posts to find mine and comment. Your like a little mut humping my leg! I make your day you pathetic moron..
    =============================================

    It’s so funny that somehow you can make someone pissing on your face seem like a welcome summer rain shower. Problem is, all I have to do is comb thru five or six posts, find the most idiotic one, and low and behold, there YOU are. Funny how that happens so consistently.

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    funny that somehow you can make someone pissing on your face seem like a welcome summer rain shower

    ***

    SeyGlenn: nice use of words pictures!

  79. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Seymour Oakglen Bush, my favorite whipping boy.

  80. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Not making it up J Wiggle
    http://jutiagroup.com/2009/07/01/chinese-win-contract-to-develop-major-iraqi-oil-field/

  81. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    What it do Oakdork?

  82. Seymour Bush Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    BsJ is clueless because he spends his life on libtard blogs and left wing news sources like the NY times.
    =============================================

    Yeah, the NY Times is not real credible as a news source. Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, and the National Enquirer are much more “fair and balanced.”

  83. J Wiggle Says:

    Jwigg talking up Stan Routt yesterday = hidden agenda

    ——————————————————-

    Talking up Stan Routt ???

    LOL!

    More propoganda!

    Just simply asked a question of how McFadden was competing against for that nickel role and prayed to GOD it wasn’t Stan Routt.

  84. Seymour Bush Says:

    # Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    What it do Oakdork?
    =======================================

    Ahh the blog troll. What it do troll? Find any good scraps in the dumpster for lunch?

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    National Enquirer ???

    ***

    Sey Bush: the only people who read that are fat housewives who watch Oprah!

  86. Seymour Bush Says:

    Routt is terrible.

  87. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Just simply asked a question of how McFadden was competing against for that nickel role and prayed to GOD it wasn’t Stan Routt.

    ***

    Walter Mac vs. #26

  88. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The largest football stadiums in the United States:

    109,901 — Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor

    107,282 — Beaver Stadium (Penn State), State College, Pa.

    102,495 — Neyland Stadium (Tennessee), Knoxville, Tenn.

    102,329 — Ohio Stadium (Ohio State), Columbus, Ohio

    101,000 — Bryant-Denny Stadium (Alabama), Tuscaloosa, Ala.

  89. J Wiggle Says:

    Not making it up J Wiggle

    http://jutiagroup.com/2009/07/01/chinese-win-contract-to-develop-major-iraqi-oil-field/

    ——————————————————-

    All good …

    But we were talking about the Brazilian oil fields, not Iraq.

  90. J Wiggle Says:

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Routt is terrible.

    —————————————————–

    Here come the DB coaches again.

    Routt against the slot WR is terrible.

    Routt on an outside WR in man to man is decent.

    Too bad we mostly get to see him lined up opposite the slot WR.

  91. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Here come the DB coaches again.

    ***

    RaiderRockstar & SeyGlenn > Lionel Washington & Randy Hanson

  92. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Happy birthday to Thomas Howard, and Rolondo McLaine…

  93. J Wiggle Says:

    To echo Dakota’s point …

    We are going to see what our DBs are made of this year. Teams never really had to test our DBs these past few years due to the ineptness of the offense. Score one TD, game was pretty much over.

    NOW …

    We are going to see what CJ and Nnamdi are really made of. All I know is that pass rush better be there or this board will be crying for a CB with next years first rd … wait a minute … I mean 2nd rd pick.

  94. HairyBush Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
    To echo Dakota’s point …

    We are going to see what our DBs are made of this year. Teams never really had to test our DBs these past few years due to the ineptness of the offense. Score one TD, game was pretty much over.

    NOW …

    We are going to see what CJ and Nnamdi are really made of. All I know is that pass rush better be there or this board will be crying for a CB with next years first rd … wait a minute … I mean 2nd rd pick.
    ————————

    Well said

  95. RaiderRockstar Says:

    All I know is that pass rush better be there or this board will be crying for a CB with next years first rd … wait a minute … I mean 2nd rd pick.

    ***

    If it’s not, who will you blame?

    Marshall
    Waufle
    Shaughnessy
    Seymour
    Houston
    Richardson
    Groves
    Scott
    Wimbley

    All of the above ???

    you know me. i’ll blame Nick Miller, Marcel Reece, Hiram Eugene & Stanford Routt!

  96. J Wiggle Says:

    If the pass rush is not there, I’ll blame the DC of course. Better have the ballz to bring more than that front 4!

    And I do mean regularly!

  97. Seymour Bush Says:

    J Wiggle Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Routt is terrible.

    —————————————————–

    Here come the DB coaches again.
    ==========================================

    routt started one game last year. He has had like 15 passes defended in like 61 career games. What that means is he makes one play every five games. Guys like that should be selling insurance not playing in the NFL.

  98. RaiderRockstar Says:

    routt started one game last year. He has had like 15 passes defended in like 61 career games. What that means is he makes one play every five games. Guys like that should be selling insurance not playing in the NFL.

    ***

    Sey Bush: I don’t think so

    selling insurance means you have to “cover” somebody!

  99. Seymour Bush Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    routt started one game last year. He has had like 15 passes defended in like 61 career games. What that means is he makes one play every five games. Guys like that should be selling insurance not playing in the NFL.

    ***

    Sey Bush: I don’t think so

    selling insurance means you have to “cover” somebody!
    ===============================================

    Hahahahaha. Best post of the day RR!

  100. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If the pass rush is not there, I’ll blame the DC of course.

    ***

    Can play DE:

    Shaughnessy
    Seymour
    Houston
    Richardson
    Kelly
    Bryant
    Groves
    Scott

    Can play DT:

    Henderson
    Heard
    Seymour
    Houston
    Richardson
    Kelly
    Bryant

    Can play OLB:

    Scott
    Wimbley
    Howard
    Brown
    Groves
    Norris

    Can play MLB:

    McClain
    Goethel
    Brown

    safeties that can hit like a linebacker:

    Branch
    Mitchell
    S. Brown
    Boyd

    John Marshall certainly has PLENTY to work with …

  101. Seymour Bush Says:

    Regarding #101, the ONE THING that Kiffin brought here that Cable learned, that Pete Carroll is bringing up to Seattle from his days at SC is “competition at EVERY position.”

  102. Guy Says:

    Pretty sure Wimbley can play end too.

  103. fat kidd Says:

    Former President Bush’s Boat Runs Aground Updated: 6 hours 6 minutes ago
    Print Text Size EmailMoreAOL News

    AOL News (July 14) — Beach-goers in Maine had an unexpectedly close encounter with former President George H.W. Bush when his fishing boat ran aground.

    Bush can often be seen piloting his 38-foot boat off the coast of Kennebunkport. This time, the Fidelity IV ended up stuck on Gooch’s Beach for several hours.

    Photo By Ebonie Burritt
    Former President George H.W. Bush’s boat, Fidelity IV, ended up stuck for hours Monday on Gooch’s Beach near his home in Maine.It’s not clear who was steering the boat, but the former president and some family members were aboard, Bush’s personal assistant Jim Appleby told SeacoastOnline.com. The boat had trouble navigating through heavy fog that rolled in at midafternoon and got caught in swells that pushed it onto the public beach, Appleby said.

    The same thing happened to a boat that was following Bush’s. Nobody was hurt, and neither boat was seriously damaged, according to Portland’s WCSH TV.

    Secret Service agents and Bush staffers had to wait about five hours for the tide to come in and float the Fidelity IV off the sand. Hundreds of people gathered on the beach to watch the process and take snapshots.

    “We were all going to go for a whale watch, but this tops that,” tourist Mike Hilton told a local TV news crew.

  104. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The New Orleans Hornets will not offer free agent shooting guard Luther Head a contract because he had some physical issues during his physical examination that was a concern of the Hornets’ medical staff. league sources said Wednesday. Earlier this week Head and the Hornets had agreed to a two-year contract that was contingent on him passing his physical. Sources said the decision not to offer Head a contract did not have anything to do with general manager Jeff Bower and the Hornets mutually agreeing to part ways on Tuesday.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

    ***

    give’em 2 weeks. then Miami will get him for the minimum

  105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders Sign 7th Round CB Jeremy Ware

    According to a league source, the Oakland Raiders have signed seventh-round cornerback Jeremy Ware to a four-year contract worth $1.852 million dollars.

    Ware received a signing bonus of $62,450. A fourth year escalator can increase the total value of his contract to over $2.585 million dollars.

    Ware began his college career at South Carolina, where he red-shirted in 2005 before transferring to Michigan State. Ware started 16 of the 25 games he’d play for the Spartans between 2007-09, totaling 84 tackles, 2 quarterback sacks, 1 interception, and 11 pass break-ups. Ware was not invited to 2010 Scouting Combine, but ran a 4.37-40 at Michigan State’s Pro Day on March 17, and displayed a 37.5” vertical leap and 9’10” broad jump.

    The 5-10, 184-pound Ware is expected to compete with fifth-round pick Walter McFadden for the Raiders’ fourth cornerback job.

    Ware is the fourth of the Raiders’ nine picks in the 2010 NFL Draft to sign a contract.

    Posted by Brian McIntyre (Mac’s Football Blog)

  106. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Raiders signed seventh-round CB Jeremy Ware to a four-year contract, including a $62,000 signing bonus. The only Michigan State player drafted in April, Ware was just a one-year starter for the Spartans. The Raiders, though, are intrigued by his speed after Ware ran in the 4.3s at his Pro Day. He’ll be on the bubble in camp”—

    Al Davis’ speedster

  107. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jeremy Ware > Stanford Routt

    Print That.

  108. Seymour Bush Says:

    Why do I think that if we looked at replays of 99% of the TD’s the Raiders have given up thru the air the last two years Routt would be in the picture, trailing the play with his hands up like “it wasn’t my guy?”

  109. fat kidd Says:

    Cut down on flying, sell the car and recycle your bottles. But if you really want to tackle global warming, you should stop your cow from burping.

    According to scientific estimates, the methane gas produced by cows is responsible for 4% of greenhouse gas emissions. And now, German scientists have invented a pill to cut bovine burping.

    The fist-sized plant-based pill, known as a bolus, combined with a special diet and strict feeding times, is meant to reduce the methane produced by cows.

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why do I think that if we looked at replays of 99% of the TD’s the Raiders have given up thru the air the last two years Routt would be in the picture, trailing the play with his hands up like “it wasn’t my guy?”

    ***

    because you either just finished watching film with Jhill, or you have a very good memory :)

  111. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  112. buckeyeraider Says:

    ‘Sup fellas.

    Al Davis takes a lot of flak for supposedly drafting height/weight/speed guys all the time. A lot of the time it’s unfair. Not so, in the case of Stanford Routt. That guy was way overdrafted. The guy has good size and great speed, but he is one of the most frustrating players on the Raiders. IMO.

    He seems to have no instincts. Or ball skills. Even when he is in good position and playing with good technique, he still gets beat. He rarely swats away a pass. And he has a bad habit of panicking and grabbing the receiver when he doesn’t need to. Although in his defense, the guy has gotten several shady calls against him.

    About the only thing I can say on his behalf, is when he has had to start in place of Nnamdi a couple of times, he has accounted fairly well for himself. He wasn’t a total mark.

  113. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    buckeyeraider Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    ‘Sup fellas.

    Al Davis takes a lot of flak for supposedly drafting height/weight/speed guys all the time. A lot of the time it’s unfair. Not so, in the case of Stanford Routt. That guy was way overdrafted. The guy has good size and great speed, but he is one of the most frustrating players on the Raiders. IMO.

    He seems to have no instincts. Or ball skills. Even when he is in good position and playing with good technique, he still gets beat. He rarely swats away a pass. And he has a bad habit of panicking and grabbing the receiver when he doesn’t need to. Although in his defense, the guy has gotten several shady calls against him.

    About the only thing I can say on his behalf, is when he has had to start in place of Nnamdi a couple of times, he has accounted fairly well for himself. He wasn’t a total mark.

    ————————————————–

    At what point can we put some blame on our “supposed” superstar Nnamdi? Shouldn’t he be making the other DB’s around him better? Shouldn’t he be taking the time to tutor players like route?

  114. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    Jeremy Ware > Stanford Routt

    Print That.

    =================

    Except Routt was drafted in the 1st or very early 2nd round and Ware was a 7th.

    I hope Davis is right and Routt is ready to break out. He did have some good lookin plays last year, jumped a route of a TD last year against the Eagles but a BS flag negated it when a ref thought the receiver tripping over his own feet was pass interference…

  115. Nnamdi21 Says:

    113. Herr Doktor,

    Read recently that exactly what Nnams is doing. Making players stay after practice to watch film and study together.

    Righteous…

  116. aig Says:

    Routt was on record to admit that he is uncomfy playing the nickel. He is more comfy playing the outside with the sidelines to protect him. From what I saw, he is much better outside than inside.

  117. Nnamdi21 Says:

    112. Buckeye, Routt’s one of those famous track stars Davis loves but he hates playing Nickle for one, its harder and you don’t have the sideline as a friend.

    Wants to play out side in Chris Johnson’s spot and frankly he probably will see more time there this year.

    Johnson’s production fell off last year and he’s had knee problems in his past…

  118. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    113. Herr Doktor,

    Read recently that exactly what Nnams is doing. Making players stay after practice to watch film and study together.

    Righteous…

    ——————————————–

    Just for interest sake, any chance you have a link to that article?

  119. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Guy Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    Pretty sure Wimbley can play end too.

    ===================

    Word.

    Diversity is the plan for Marshall’s D. Scott, Wimbley and Groves can play standing or hand on the ground apparently…

    COOL!

  120. fat kidd Says:

    Second defendant gets 3-8 years in Javon Walker robbery
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 14, 2010 3:16 PM ET
    Last week one of two men who beat and robbed former NFL receiver Javon Walker in Las Vegas in 2008 was sentenced to life in prison without parole. Today the other defendant in the case got a much more lenient sentence.

    Arfat Abdo Fadel, a 32-year-old co-defendant who took a plea deal in the robbery case, has been sentenced to three to eight years in Nevada state prison.

    The other defendant, Deshawn Lamont Thomas, got the tougher sentence because he’s a habitual felon with 11 convictions. Thomas and Fadel lured a drunken Walker into a car and robbing him of cash, casino chips and jewelry.

    Walker played in just three games in 2009 and did not catch a pass. He is not under contract to any team, although he claimed this offseason that he had an upcoming tryout.

  121. M Lonetree Says:

    what a moronic post by Hawking asking why Nnamdi isn’t coaching up Routt. teaching a turnip to become a snow leopard isn’t in the realm of possibilities.

  122. LhayeS37 Says:

    nice job with bastille day!!!!

  123. LhayeS37 Says:

    walker should have been robbed twice instead of once…solve some problems in the secondary by playing more zone.i can’t stress that point enough.zone also provides better run support.all that man coverage is shameful.

  124. LhayeS37 Says:

    all i can say is religion and adults don’t mix well

  125. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ 124!

  126. Raider O Says:

    Nnamdi requested the DBs to stay for few hours after practice. What more do want him to do? We have coaches too!!

  127. Kirk Says:

    True #124.

    The three greatest evils in the world are Islam, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party.

  128. fat kidd Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    True #124.

    The three greatest evils in the world are Islam, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party.

    …………………….and you forgot MISTABROWN

  129. fat kidd Says:

    ESPY Awards 2010 Winners
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    7/14/2010 7:46 PM ET By FanHouse Staff
    FanHouse Staff
    FanHouse will have ESPY awards 2010 winners and results tonight from LA. The ESPYs recognize the top athletes in the sports world.
    Find out who won the ESPYs below.

    Winners are in bold.

    BEST MALE ATHLETE
    Jamarcus Russell, NFL
    Kobe Bryant, NBA
    LeBron James, NBA
    Jimmie Johnson, NASCAR
    Albert Pujols, MLB

    BEST FEMALE ATHLETE
    Maya Moore, NCAA Basketball
    Diana Taurasi, WNBA
    Lindsey Vonn, Skiing
    Serena Williams, Tennis

  130. fat kidd Says:

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    Email Comments 117 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney has been discharged from the hospital after his latest bout with heart-related trouble.

    Cheney was admitted to George Washington University Hospital on Friday after reporting that he was not feeling well. He underwent testing and ultimately received medication to treat a fluid buildup related to his aggressive form of heart disease.

    His office said on Sunday that the former vice president’s condition has improved considerably, and he left the hospital as expected on Monday.

    The 69-year-old Cheney has a long history of heart disease
    ……………………..wow goverment healthcare not bad

  131. fat kidd Says:

    276597
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    Email Comments 284 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney disclosed Wednesday that he has undergone surgery to install a small pump to help his heart work, as the 69-year-old enters a new phase of what he called “increasing congestive heart failure.”

    “The operation went very well and I am now recuperating,” a still-hospitalized Cheney said in a statement.

    The kind of heart pump that Cheney received can be implanted next to the heart to help its main pumping chamber, the left ventricle, pump blood through the body. Such devices are used mainly for short periods, to buy potential transplant candidates time as they await a donor organ.

    But they are being studied for use as a permanent therapy for people with severe heart failure who aren’t transplant candidates.

    The surgery took place last week at Inova Fairfax Heart and Vascular Institute in Washington’s Northern Virginia suburbs, where Cheney was receiving care Wednesday.

    A longtime face of the Republican Party, Cheney has dealt with heart problems much of his adult life, suffering five heart attacks since age 37. He said the latest step, the implanting of a pump called a left ventricular assist device, will allow him to resume an active life.

    About 5 million Americans have congestive heart failure in which the heart weakens over time – often as a result of heart attacks – and cannot pump enough blood. Heart transplants are one solution, but few patients find a donor and many are too old or sick for a transplant.

    The heart pump Cheney received, known as an LVAD for short, is not a cure, said Dr. Samer Najjar, medical director of the heart transplant and LVAD division at Washington Hospital Center. But by rerouting the blood to take over the job of the left ventricle, the pump relieves pressure on the heart.

    And once patients recover from the open-heart surgery, they can experience a much better quality of life, said Najjar, who has had LVAD recipients go back to work or resume hobbies like bowling. Najjar had no firsthand information about Cheney’s case
    …………………………wow more goverment healthcare.

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