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Camp questions: Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

With reporting day two weeks away, the second in a series of questions and issues to be sorted out in Napa:

With a full training camp, can Richard Seymour elevate the play of the entire defensive line?

When Seymour signed his exclusive franchise free agent tender on June 19, it meant the nine-year veteran would be in camp on time, taking the Nnamdi Asomugha approach to being franchised rather than showing up for the opener like Charles Woodson.

Coach Tom Cable worked overtime last year stressing Seymour’s influence on the rest of the defensive linemen, end Matt Shaughnessy and tackle Desmond Bryant in particular.

But at the end of the season, the Raiders remained deficient against the run (29th in the NFL), continued to allow rushing touchdowns (24) at a pre-Seymour rate and were middle of the road in terms of a pass rush (34 sacks). When playing as much man-to-man coverage as the Raiders do, pressure on the quarterback must rise above mediocre.

By season’s end, Seymour had four sacks _ down from eight a in 2008 _ to go along with 47 tackles and a forced fumble. Two of those sacks came in a remarkable Monday night opener against San Diego just two days after he reported while sorting out his personal affairs and getting used to the idea of being traded from the New England Patriots for a 2011 first-round draft pick.

Seymour has never been big in the sacks department, but his reputation in New England was of a player who was so difficult to block he made everyone else better on an ever-changing multiple defense _ often as an end in a 3-4 scheme.

With the Raiders, Seymour, according to Football Outsiders, had a team-high 17 hurries and was named to their “No-Help All-Stars” team, indicating he hadn’t exactly elevated the games of other linemen such as Tommy Kelly and since departed veterans Gerard Warren and Greg Ellis.

The Raiders are counting on a full training camp making a difference, with Seymour showing the way to the likes of Shaughnessy, Bryant, Jay Richardson and rookie second-round pick Lamarr Houston.

Another factor is the return of line coach Mike Waufle, whose job it will be to bring a unit mentality to a group which has shown the raw ability to beat the man in front of them but too often fails to cover for each other.

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  • Seymour Bush

    Regarding #101, the ONE THING that Kiffin brought here that Cable learned, that Pete Carroll is bringing up to Seattle from his days at SC is “competition at EVERY position.”

  • Guy

    Pretty sure Wimbley can play end too.

  • fat kidd

    Former President Bush’s Boat Runs Aground Updated: 6 hours 6 minutes ago
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    AOL News (July 14) — Beach-goers in Maine had an unexpectedly close encounter with former President George H.W. Bush when his fishing boat ran aground.

    Bush can often be seen piloting his 38-foot boat off the coast of Kennebunkport. This time, the Fidelity IV ended up stuck on Gooch’s Beach for several hours.

    Photo By Ebonie Burritt
    Former President George H.W. Bush’s boat, Fidelity IV, ended up stuck for hours Monday on Gooch’s Beach near his home in Maine.It’s not clear who was steering the boat, but the former president and some family members were aboard, Bush’s personal assistant Jim Appleby told SeacoastOnline.com. The boat had trouble navigating through heavy fog that rolled in at midafternoon and got caught in swells that pushed it onto the public beach, Appleby said.

    The same thing happened to a boat that was following Bush’s. Nobody was hurt, and neither boat was seriously damaged, according to Portland’s WCSH TV.

    Secret Service agents and Bush staffers had to wait about five hours for the tide to come in and float the Fidelity IV off the sand. Hundreds of people gathered on the beach to watch the process and take snapshots.

    “We were all going to go for a whale watch, but this tops that,” tourist Mike Hilton told a local TV news crew.

  • RaiderRockstar

    The New Orleans Hornets will not offer free agent shooting guard Luther Head a contract because he had some physical issues during his physical examination that was a concern of the Hornets’ medical staff. league sources said Wednesday. Earlier this week Head and the Hornets had agreed to a two-year contract that was contingent on him passing his physical. Sources said the decision not to offer Head a contract did not have anything to do with general manager Jeff Bower and the Hornets mutually agreeing to part ways on Tuesday.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

    ***

    give’em 2 weeks. then Miami will get him for the minimum

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders Sign 7th Round CB Jeremy Ware

    According to a league source, the Oakland Raiders have signed seventh-round cornerback Jeremy Ware to a four-year contract worth $1.852 million dollars.

    Ware received a signing bonus of $62,450. A fourth year escalator can increase the total value of his contract to over $2.585 million dollars.

    Ware began his college career at South Carolina, where he red-shirted in 2005 before transferring to Michigan State. Ware started 16 of the 25 games he’d play for the Spartans between 2007-09, totaling 84 tackles, 2 quarterback sacks, 1 interception, and 11 pass break-ups. Ware was not invited to 2010 Scouting Combine, but ran a 4.37-40 at Michigan State’s Pro Day on March 17, and displayed a 37.5” vertical leap and 9’10” broad jump.

    The 5-10, 184-pound Ware is expected to compete with fifth-round pick Walter McFadden for the Raiders’ fourth cornerback job.

    Ware is the fourth of the Raiders’ nine picks in the 2010 NFL Draft to sign a contract.

    Posted by Brian McIntyre (Mac’s Football Blog)

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    —”Raiders signed seventh-round CB Jeremy Ware to a four-year contract, including a $62,000 signing bonus. The only Michigan State player drafted in April, Ware was just a one-year starter for the Spartans. The Raiders, though, are intrigued by his speed after Ware ran in the 4.3s at his Pro Day. He’ll be on the bubble in camp”—

    Al Davis’ speedster

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jeremy Ware > Stanford Routt

    Print That.

  • Seymour Bush

    Why do I think that if we looked at replays of 99% of the TD’s the Raiders have given up thru the air the last two years Routt would be in the picture, trailing the play with his hands up like “it wasn’t my guy?”

  • fat kidd

    Cut down on flying, sell the car and recycle your bottles. But if you really want to tackle global warming, you should stop your cow from burping.

    According to scientific estimates, the methane gas produced by cows is responsible for 4% of greenhouse gas emissions. And now, German scientists have invented a pill to cut bovine burping.

    The fist-sized plant-based pill, known as a bolus, combined with a special diet and strict feeding times, is meant to reduce the methane produced by cows.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Why do I think that if we looked at replays of 99% of the TD’s the Raiders have given up thru the air the last two years Routt would be in the picture, trailing the play with his hands up like “it wasn’t my guy?”

    ***

    because you either just finished watching film with Jhill, or you have a very good memory :)

  • RaiderRockstar

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  • buckeyeraider

    ‘Sup fellas.

    Al Davis takes a lot of flak for supposedly drafting height/weight/speed guys all the time. A lot of the time it’s unfair. Not so, in the case of Stanford Routt. That guy was way overdrafted. The guy has good size and great speed, but he is one of the most frustrating players on the Raiders. IMO.

    He seems to have no instincts. Or ball skills. Even when he is in good position and playing with good technique, he still gets beat. He rarely swats away a pass. And he has a bad habit of panicking and grabbing the receiver when he doesn’t need to. Although in his defense, the guy has gotten several shady calls against him.

    About the only thing I can say on his behalf, is when he has had to start in place of Nnamdi a couple of times, he has accounted fairly well for himself. He wasn’t a total mark.

  • http://sizzurp Dr. Steven Hawking

    buckeyeraider Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    ‘Sup fellas.

    Al Davis takes a lot of flak for supposedly drafting height/weight/speed guys all the time. A lot of the time it’s unfair. Not so, in the case of Stanford Routt. That guy was way overdrafted. The guy has good size and great speed, but he is one of the most frustrating players on the Raiders. IMO.

    He seems to have no instincts. Or ball skills. Even when he is in good position and playing with good technique, he still gets beat. He rarely swats away a pass. And he has a bad habit of panicking and grabbing the receiver when he doesn’t need to. Although in his defense, the guy has gotten several shady calls against him.

    About the only thing I can say on his behalf, is when he has had to start in place of Nnamdi a couple of times, he has accounted fairly well for himself. He wasn’t a total mark.

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    At what point can we put some blame on our “supposed” superstar Nnamdi? Shouldn’t he be making the other DB’s around him better? Shouldn’t he be taking the time to tutor players like route?

  • Nnamdi21

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    Jeremy Ware > Stanford Routt

    Print That.

    =================

    Except Routt was drafted in the 1st or very early 2nd round and Ware was a 7th.

    I hope Davis is right and Routt is ready to break out. He did have some good lookin plays last year, jumped a route of a TD last year against the Eagles but a BS flag negated it when a ref thought the receiver tripping over his own feet was pass interference…

  • Nnamdi21

    113. Herr Doktor,

    Read recently that exactly what Nnams is doing. Making players stay after practice to watch film and study together.

    Righteous…

  • aig

    Routt was on record to admit that he is uncomfy playing the nickel. He is more comfy playing the outside with the sidelines to protect him. From what I saw, he is much better outside than inside.

  • Nnamdi21

    112. Buckeye, Routt’s one of those famous track stars Davis loves but he hates playing Nickle for one, its harder and you don’t have the sideline as a friend.

    Wants to play out side in Chris Johnson’s spot and frankly he probably will see more time there this year.

    Johnson’s production fell off last year and he’s had knee problems in his past…

  • http://sizzurp Dr. Steven Hawking

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    113. Herr Doktor,

    Read recently that exactly what Nnams is doing. Making players stay after practice to watch film and study together.

    Righteous…

    ——————————————–

    Just for interest sake, any chance you have a link to that article?

  • Nnamdi21

    Guy Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    Pretty sure Wimbley can play end too.

    ===================

    Word.

    Diversity is the plan for Marshall’s D. Scott, Wimbley and Groves can play standing or hand on the ground apparently…

    COOL!

  • fat kidd

    Second defendant gets 3-8 years in Javon Walker robbery
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 14, 2010 3:16 PM ET
    Last week one of two men who beat and robbed former NFL receiver Javon Walker in Las Vegas in 2008 was sentenced to life in prison without parole. Today the other defendant in the case got a much more lenient sentence.

    Arfat Abdo Fadel, a 32-year-old co-defendant who took a plea deal in the robbery case, has been sentenced to three to eight years in Nevada state prison.

    The other defendant, Deshawn Lamont Thomas, got the tougher sentence because he’s a habitual felon with 11 convictions. Thomas and Fadel lured a drunken Walker into a car and robbing him of cash, casino chips and jewelry.

    Walker played in just three games in 2009 and did not catch a pass. He is not under contract to any team, although he claimed this offseason that he had an upcoming tryout.

  • M Lonetree

    what a moronic post by Hawking asking why Nnamdi isn’t coaching up Routt. teaching a turnip to become a snow leopard isn’t in the realm of possibilities.

  • LhayeS37

    nice job with bastille day!!!!

  • LhayeS37

    walker should have been robbed twice instead of once…solve some problems in the secondary by playing more zone.i can’t stress that point enough.zone also provides better run support.all that man coverage is shameful.

  • LhayeS37

    all i can say is religion and adults don’t mix well

  • http://atm Raider O

    LMAO @ 124!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Nnamdi requested the DBs to stay for few hours after practice. What more do want him to do? We have coaches too!!

  • Kirk

    True #124.

    The three greatest evils in the world are Islam, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party.

  • fat kidd

    Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    True #124.

    The three greatest evils in the world are Islam, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party.

    …………………….and you forgot MISTABROWN

  • fat kidd

    ESPY Awards 2010 Winners
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    7/14/2010 7:46 PM ET By FanHouse Staff
    FanHouse Staff
    FanHouse will have ESPY awards 2010 winners and results tonight from LA. The ESPYs recognize the top athletes in the sports world.
    Find out who won the ESPYs below.

    Winners are in bold.

    BEST MALE ATHLETE
    Jamarcus Russell, NFL
    Kobe Bryant, NBA
    LeBron James, NBA
    Jimmie Johnson, NASCAR
    Albert Pujols, MLB

    BEST FEMALE ATHLETE
    Maya Moore, NCAA Basketball
    Diana Taurasi, WNBA
    Lindsey Vonn, Skiing
    Serena Williams, Tennis

  • fat kidd

    1927
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    Email Comments 117 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney has been discharged from the hospital after his latest bout with heart-related trouble.

    Cheney was admitted to George Washington University Hospital on Friday after reporting that he was not feeling well. He underwent testing and ultimately received medication to treat a fluid buildup related to his aggressive form of heart disease.

    His office said on Sunday that the former vice president’s condition has improved considerably, and he left the hospital as expected on Monday.

    The 69-year-old Cheney has a long history of heart disease
    ……………………..wow goverment healthcare not bad

  • fat kidd

    276597
    views285 Former Vice President Dick Cheney is in intensive care after undergoing major heart surgery Get Politics Alerts

    Email Comments 284 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney disclosed Wednesday that he has undergone surgery to install a small pump to help his heart work, as the 69-year-old enters a new phase of what he called “increasing congestive heart failure.”

    “The operation went very well and I am now recuperating,” a still-hospitalized Cheney said in a statement.

    The kind of heart pump that Cheney received can be implanted next to the heart to help its main pumping chamber, the left ventricle, pump blood through the body. Such devices are used mainly for short periods, to buy potential transplant candidates time as they await a donor organ.

    But they are being studied for use as a permanent therapy for people with severe heart failure who aren’t transplant candidates.

    The surgery took place last week at Inova Fairfax Heart and Vascular Institute in Washington’s Northern Virginia suburbs, where Cheney was receiving care Wednesday.

    A longtime face of the Republican Party, Cheney has dealt with heart problems much of his adult life, suffering five heart attacks since age 37. He said the latest step, the implanting of a pump called a left ventricular assist device, will allow him to resume an active life.

    About 5 million Americans have congestive heart failure in which the heart weakens over time – often as a result of heart attacks – and cannot pump enough blood. Heart transplants are one solution, but few patients find a donor and many are too old or sick for a transplant.

    The heart pump Cheney received, known as an LVAD for short, is not a cure, said Dr. Samer Najjar, medical director of the heart transplant and LVAD division at Washington Hospital Center. But by rerouting the blood to take over the job of the left ventricle, the pump relieves pressure on the heart.

    And once patients recover from the open-heart surgery, they can experience a much better quality of life, said Najjar, who has had LVAD recipients go back to work or resume hobbies like bowling. Najjar had no firsthand information about Cheney’s case
    …………………………wow more goverment healthcare.

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