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Camp questions: Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

With reporting day two weeks away, the second in a series of questions and issues to be sorted out in Napa:

With a full training camp, can Richard Seymour elevate the play of the entire defensive line?

When Seymour signed his exclusive franchise free agent tender on June 19, it meant the nine-year veteran would be in camp on time, taking the Nnamdi Asomugha approach to being franchised rather than showing up for the opener like Charles Woodson.

Coach Tom Cable worked overtime last year stressing Seymour’s influence on the rest of the defensive linemen, end Matt Shaughnessy and tackle Desmond Bryant in particular.

But at the end of the season, the Raiders remained deficient against the run (29th in the NFL), continued to allow rushing touchdowns (24) at a pre-Seymour rate and were middle of the road in terms of a pass rush (34 sacks). When playing as much man-to-man coverage as the Raiders do, pressure on the quarterback must rise above mediocre.

By season’s end, Seymour had four sacks _ down from eight a in 2008 _ to go along with 47 tackles and a forced fumble. Two of those sacks came in a remarkable Monday night opener against San Diego just two days after he reported while sorting out his personal affairs and getting used to the idea of being traded from the New England Patriots for a 2011 first-round draft pick.

Seymour has never been big in the sacks department, but his reputation in New England was of a player who was so difficult to block he made everyone else better on an ever-changing multiple defense _ often as an end in a 3-4 scheme.

With the Raiders, Seymour, according to Football Outsiders, had a team-high 17 hurries and was named to their “No-Help All-Stars” team, indicating he hadn’t exactly elevated the games of other linemen such as Tommy Kelly and since departed veterans Gerard Warren and Greg Ellis.

The Raiders are counting on a full training camp making a difference, with Seymour showing the way to the likes of Shaughnessy, Bryant, Jay Richardson and rookie second-round pick Lamarr Houston.

Another factor is the return of line coach Mike Waufle, whose job it will be to bring a unit mentality to a group which has shown the raw ability to beat the man in front of them but too often fails to cover for each other.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    1st!

  • aig

    repost … anyone up for creating a fantasy league on yahoo? If so, drop the pw and id pls. thanks.

  • Seymour Bush

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Thec07 Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 7:54 am
    Wigg, what up Brethren? the “so-calleds” beleive they are GOD’s choosen…
    -======================================================
    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    All religions believe they are the only way. Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc. More people are killed for religious conflict than any other reason. The Koran separates into believers and infidels. Jews into Jews and Goyim. Christians do the same. Hindus fight Sikh.
    That’s it for my religious take.
    ——–
    Guess who’s on a misson for “god”?
    Sharron Angle Latest Republican to Claim God is on Her Side
    http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/sharron-angle-latest-republican-to-claim-god-on-her-side

    The balls on these Republicans. Besides any race claiming they “read” the mind of god!?!?!?
    =============================================

    That’s the conservatives only hope: To convince other conservative idiots that they have a direct line to God Almighty and that The Good Lord is completely pissed about US deficit spending. Of course God has already addressed these lying thieving conservatives 21 centuries ago. He called them “false prophets.”

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:05 am
    The Oakland Coliseum is a dump with a lesson
    By jhornberg in Minor Lines
    July 11, 2010

    Many of those who read the Advocate will never get to experience the wonder that is the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.

    While on vacation in California visiting family and friends, I went with a couple of friends twice to this epic concrete failure of architecture to watch the Oakland Athletics battle their opponent of the day in front of a crowd that could usually be counted on one hand.

    When the A’s aren’t winning, Oakland fans stay home. And based on the surroundings, any person in their right mind can’t blame them.

    The Coliseum is built in one of America’s most dangerous cities, and is located in one of that city’s most dangerous areas. Outside the Coliseum’s parking lots is thuggery of a near epic proportion, and a walk to the nearby rapid-transit train can be harrowing when made on non-game days.

    And the conditions inside aren’t much better. Bleacher seats hang off a cliff, a good 20 to 30 feet off the playing field. There isn’t a good seat in the outfield, as most of them have obstructed views of the everything that isn’t the infield. You can’t sit in the upper deck any more — they’ve covered those seats with tarps because the A’s make no money by selling them. About half of the middle deck seats — or upper deck for A’s games — aren’t even in view of the scoreboards at the Coliseum.

    Coliseum attendants are rude wage slaves who act as though they hate their job as much as they hate you. Then again, if you spent your night watching A’s baseball, would you be happy?

    And then football season rolls around. By mid-August, the outfield will be a groundskeeper’s nightmare of dying grass and potholes from seating structure supports. The Oakland Raiders still haunt the Coliseum on Sundays, and their presence can be seen in the waning days of the season as the outfield grass slowly changes to match the color of the infield. It’s really a pathetic site to behold.

    The Coliseum is among the last of a deservedly dying breed – the convertible cookie cutter, circular in shape with nothing descript about it. Its concourses are so small it makes 15,000 people seem like a lot, but it’s seating bowl is so damn cavernous it swallows 35,000 whole (a sellout for the Athletics.)

    Right now, Oakland is the only team in MLB that plays in one and has no realistic plans to replace it. Florida will be moving out of its stadium in 2012 into a shiny new stadium built on top of the old Orange Bowl. There are plans, but nothing has been solid.

    Yet the Coliseum experience is one many fans need to experience. It’s something that baseball fans from newer generations need to see once in their lifetime, that baseball wasn’t always played in a theme park with trains and wonderful architecture. That life at the ballpark wasn’t always as idyllic as it is at the Juicebox.

    Sometimes, the stadium matches the harsh realities of the city it’s in and the team on the field. The Coliseum, for all its faults, seems fittingly drab.

    Rather, the sport spent the days before steroids wallowing in smelly pits best forgotten. Places built to accomodate more than one sport, and neither one in optimal conditions. The game was played in charmless concrete mazes better off blown up than remembered.

    http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/weblogs/almost-there/2010/jul/11/the-oakland-coliseum-is-a-dump-with-a-lesson/

  • Seymour Bush

    With a full training camp, can Richard Seymour elevate the play of the entire defensive line?
    =============================================

    For $13+mm he better.

  • Kirk

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.

  • RNOraiderFan

    If the Raiders do play some 3-4 with Seymour,Houston,Kelly, who is going to be the NT? also the LBs will be Wimbley,McClain,Scott, so who will be the other ILB?

  • Seymour Bush

    Regarding #4, as long as this Hornberg guy is ready to write a $700mm check for a new stadium, I am sure the citizens of Alameda County will cheerfully accept it.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Catching Up With Nnamdi Asomugha
    By Ed Yevelev
    Since his breakout eight-interception campaign in 2006, former Cal safety Nnamdi Asomugha has become one of the NFL most feared cornerbacks as a member of the Oakland Raiders. Opposing quarterbacks have targeted him no more than 31 times over each of the past three seasons.

    His accomplishments outside of football are notable, as well. Asomugha was recently awarded the “Whizzer” White NFL Man of the Year award for his extensive community service work.

    The Daily Cal caught up with Asomugha through an email exchange, where he talked about his life on and off the field.

    Ed Yevelev: What has it been like for you to still play here in the Bay Area?

    Nnamdi Asomugha: It (has) been an amazing experience being able to stay local and stay in the Bay Area. I had the best four years at Berkeley when I was in school and the fact that I was still able to stay and be around Oakland, San Francisco, and Berkeley is something that makes me feel blessed.

    It made my transition into the NFL much easier because I was already familiar with the area so all I had to do was focus on football. A lot of guys aren’t so lucky.

    There is so much uncertainty surrounding the NFL draft so you never have a good idea where you end up playing. I’ve been in California most of my life and I knew it would be great to stay.

    EY: Before your last year at Cal, the program was going through some tough times. Has that experience helped you deal with the Raiders’ struggles at all?

    NA: I can never get used to losing because I’m such a competitor. I think once my team gets on the winning track I’ll be able to look back at the struggles of previous years and really be able to feel the payoff from the hard work put in during those tough times.

    EY: What were some of your best memories while playing for Cal, and while at Berkeley in general?

    NA: I remember my first interception at Cal. It my sophomore year and we were playing against UCLA who was ranked pretty high nationally at the time. I remember I got my very first interception and I ran it in for a touchdown.

    And I remember how wild the Berkeley crowd went after that because it was such a rivalry that we knew we had to win. We ended up winning that game in overtime and it was the best feelings that at I had with the program.

    I have tons of great moments from my time at Cal.

    From sneaking into movies at Wheeler Auditorium to the concerts at the Greek Theater. From the last second office hours before the dreaded finals to the bonfires before the big game versus Stanford. Oh, and let’s not forget the random daily protests that would occupy Sproul Hall.

    EY: How much do you follow the Bears today? Do you keep in touch with any recent or current players?

    NA: I try to get out to at least three games each year. Sometimes it’s tough because we’re playing the very next Sunday and we may have traveled out of town but I definitely keep a close watch and brag about the Bears as much as I possibly can. I am still really good friends with a number of guys that have come through Cal football including Kyle Boller and DeSean Jackson.

    EY: You’ve made television cameos on “Friday Night Lights” and “The Game.” How did you get into acting, and is that something you’re considering doing later on?

    NA: I can’t say that I’ve always wanted to be an actor, but I can say I’ve always known how to entertain a crowd. I would get in trouble a lot of times in school for disrupting a class because of my sudden urge for wanting to make people laugh.

    My teachers would always say, “You’re going be on TV one day because you’re not afraid of being in the ‘moment.”’ I did a couple plays and took a couple of classes growing up and that at point I knew it was something I wanted to really do. It’s definitely something I want to continue to get better at and continue to do, so be on the lookout.

    EY: You’ve been involved in a numerous philanthropy projects. Did the activist culture of Berkeley influence you at all?

    NA: The Asomugha College Tour for Scholars (ACTS) was a program that I started four years ago with the intent of exposing high school students from at-risk, under-served communities to the infinite possibilities that exist outside of their difficult environments.

    I’ve been able to now take the students to colleges in Atlanta, Boston, New York City, and Washington, DC. The sheer joy and excitement that they experience and the belief that anything is possible is probably what is most rewarding about it for me.

    I was involved in several community service projects while I was at Cal. It’s never too early to start helping out in the community and that was one thing I learned at Berkeley with my work at Stiles Hall and all the service that we did there.

    http://www.dailycal.org/article/109817/catching_up_with_nnamdi_asomugha

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    —”The Baltimore Sun predicts that NT Terrence Cody will have the biggest impact among all of the Ravens’ rookies this season. Cody’s competition isn’t exactly stiff, with top Ravens pick Sergio Kindle backing up Jarret Johnson, and mid-round TEs Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta competing to be second on the depth chart. Cody will have to revamp his body in order to be an every-down player, but he’ll help right away in rushing situations”—

    - I still cry myself to sleep each night :/

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    When has that ripple effect ever happened here? We sign a good player, and not even they produce, let alone the rest of the team in their presence. Once these players realize what they’ve walked into in Oakland, they give up.

  • RaiderRockstar

    20 lbs is easy to get, just take a day or two in the school of Jamarcus..

    ***

    LOL @ LMN. good one bro!

    what does a JaWalrus diet consist of, besides sizzurp ???

  • aig

    LMN,

    with our environment, Cody would never live up to his potential. He needs to be around Ray Lewis who can control the intensity and locker room there.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Report: Charles Woodson escapes fire that destroyed home

    The reigning NFL defensive player of the year made it to safety in Michigan on Saturday when a multi-million dollar home in tony Bay Harbor was destroyed by a fire.

    Woodson and his business partner Rick Ruiz were among 11 people still in the home after 4 a.m. following a party, according to Bill Michaels of WTMJ in Milwaukee. The home was completely destroyed in the blaze.

    The Green Bay Packers cornerback was likely in attendance because the party was celebrating a large gift to the University of Michigan Women’s Hospital. Woodson, of course, donated $2 million to the hospital last year.

    Fortunately, no one was injured in the fire, the cause of which has not yet been determined.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Charles-Woodson-escapes-fire-that-destroyed-home.html

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Thanks for the $2mil Chuck. Class act. Go Blue.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    # Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.

    ……………..

    I think Belichick takes advantage of Al Davis, butters him up with all of this, “Al knows the game, he’s my friend” stuff, and then offers him washed up players or players with expensive back ended contracts for draft picks.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    The Patriots get big players in their prime by loading up the back end of their contracts, knowing Al Davis will wind up paying for it, basically.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    #

    # aig Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    LMN,

    with our environment, Cody would never live up to his potential. He needs to be around Ray Lewis who can control the intensity and locker room there.
    ________________________________________________________

    well i hope Rolando is the reincarnation of Ray Lewis, so had we picked both Rolando and Cody, our D would instantly be 100% better…

    then Seymour wouldnt be such a need to resign either…

  • RaiderRockstar

    I think Belichick takes advantage of Al Davis, butters him up with all of this, “Al knows the game, he’s my friend” stuff, and then offers him washed up players or players with expensive back ended contracts for draft picks.

    ***

    as much as I hate to admit it, this is true …

    Shanny did it to us with Gerard Warren too!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    ***

    Kirk: couldn’t agree more

    pretty doggone solid supporting cast in N.E. during thier championship years and the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season

    if Tommy Kelly ever decides to become the dominant force everybody thought he had the potential to be, Seymour wouldn’t be needed. If Houston or Bryant step up, Little Richard might be out next year anyways …

    I’m glad Al Davis tagged Seymour though instead of trading away a 1st rounder on a 1-year rental that improved the defense NADA. John Henderson & Rolando McClain might make all the difference. Sey isn’t expected to carry the defense or even the D-Line anymore

  • aig

    LMN, good point

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Bo knew sports weren’t forever

    By BILL SHAIKIN
    Los Angeles Times

    So many sluggers, no one to lead off. But Bo could run. That was his winter job in Los Angeles, for the NFL’s Raiders.

    Bo Jackson played in his one and only baseball All-Star game in 1989, in Anaheim. Tony La Russa, the American League manager, told Jackson he would bat first for the home team.

    “I was shocked,” Jackson said. “I was just happy to be in the company of so many great athletes.

    “When he said I was leading off, that meant one thing to me: I had to get my stuff in gear a little earlier than I had planned to.”

    That he did. The Kansas City Royals outfielder delivered a lasting All-Star memory with his very first swing, driving a pitch 448 feet, far beyond the center-field fence and halfway up the tarps that covered seats so distant that they were used only for Rams football games.

    Jackson, one of the most celebrated athletes of his generation, transcended the sporting world and became a pop culture icon. His Nike commercials turned “Bo knows” into a catchphrase, playing off Jackson’s ability to perform outrageous feats in multiple sports.

    A Heisman Trophy winner at Auburn and No. 1 NFL pick, he returned to major league baseball after hip replacement surgery.

    He’ll take the field in Anaheim again Sunday, for a celebrity softball game. It’s the same place where he was most valuable player in the 1989 game and finished his career with the Angels in 1994.

    “I think a lot about Gene Autry, meeting and talking with him,” Jackson said, referring to the Angels’ founding owner.

    “I think about the man walking through the clubhouse with his cowboy boots on – every day, a different pair of boots.”

    The Angels had what Jackson called “a somewhat decent team” in 1994, though its .409 winning percentage during the shortened season was the Angels’ worst in the last 20 years.

    Jackson batted .279, with 13 home runs in 75 games. The players went out on strike as part of a labor dispute in August, the season was canceled, and Jackson retired at 31.

    He had offers to play in 1995 but wasn’t interested.

    “I knew deep in my heart that, if we had a strike and it lasted for the rest of the season, I wasn’t coming back,” Jackson said. “My kids were in elementary school. If I had the opportunity to be home with them – to get up in the morning with them, to make breakfast for them, to take them to school, to go to parent-teacher conferences – I knew I wouldn’t be back.

    “I got home, and I got a taste of freedom.”

    His football career had ended because of a hip injury on Jan. 13, 1991.

    “Here’s what people don’t know,” he said. “On Jan. 9, my wife and I sat down at the table, at our place in Playa del Rey. We decided that, when the season was over, I was going to retire from football, even though I had a year left on my contract.”

    Jackson said he and his wife agreed that moving their children so often – from Kansas City for baseball season to Los Angeles for football season, back home to Alabama for the off-season and then back to Kansas City – was not healthy.

    “God works in mysterious ways,” Jackson said. “The way I look at it, I dislocated my hip, so I didn’t have to retire.”

    The Raiders did not last much longer in Los Angeles. They abandoned the Coliseum and returned to Oakland after the 1994 season.

    “This is my opinion, and my opinion only, but the reason the Raiders left Los Angeles was because of the condition of our place of work,” Jackson said. “The public just got to see the outside of the stadium, which is beautiful.

    “But, after a game, we had to stand in line to take a shower. There were 20 or 25 shower heads – and only four of them had a steady stream of water coming out of them.”

    The hip injury might have derailed his rush to greatness in one sport, or two, not that he would accept any pity.

    “Don’t feel bad for me,” he said. “I didn’t get into sports to make it to the Hall of Fame, or to be the home run king, or to break Walter Payton’s record. I got into sports because I saw it as a way to open other doors.”

    Jackson resides in the Chicago area and is president of a company that manages his affairs and another that manages an indoor sports complex. He also serves on the board of directors for a local bank.

    He steered himself on a post-sports career path even in college, so he says he did not agonize over retirement and the loss of fame and fortune.

    Jackson said, “Sports was never the center of my universe for this simple reason: I knew where I wanted to be by the time I was in my mid- to late 30s. That was out of sports completely, and into business.”

    He said he saw what other college athletes could not see, or chose not to see.

    “A lot of kids don’t realize the gravy train is going to come to an end,” he said. “They have no formal education, no business sense, no money management skills. They just have to live with that.

    “I made it a point to learn as much as I could in college.”

    That, he said, might be the most valuable bit of advice he could share with his three children.

    “If my two sons were the top two high school baseball players on the planet, and everybody wanted to make them instant millionaires,” he said, “they would still have to spend at least three years in college – not to hone their skills, but to get an education.”

    His skills will be on display one more time in Sunday’s softball game, even if his primary talent might now be vocal.

    “When they said I could play in the softball game, I said, ‘Sure.’ That is just an hour and a half of trash talk, fun and entertaining the fans,” Jackson said, “and catching up with people I haven’t seen in 15 or 20 years. I’m very much looking forward to it.”

    http://www.sacbee.com/2010/07/12/2884144/bo-knew-sports-werent-forever.html#ixzz0tgETYxIv

  • RaiderKen

    Kirk Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am
    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    That really was a very bad trade.
    _______________________________________________________

    Overrated? NO overpaid? What about Kelly. If you really think this you need to look at the tape of last season and figure out the only DL to stop the run was Seymour. On most passing downs he was moved to DT and double teamed by the Center and Guard. Not really the best position to get after the QB. I’ll agree overpaid, but never overrated.

  • RaiderRockstar

    “I would get in trouble a lot of times in school for disrupting a class”

    sneaking into movies at Wheeler Auditorium?

    ***

    should have traded N21 for Ben Peepeeburger

  • RaiderRockstar
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  • HairyBush

    I’ll show you a ripple effect

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Three thousand nuclear warheads?

    Gee whiz! That would leave us virtually defenseless!

    This article – http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100713/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_nuclear_stockpile – proves that Obama is a traitor (if not also a foreign-born Muslim usurper of the U.S. presidency).

    Clearly, it’s time for another Tea Party rally of people carrying misspelled signs.

    Obama’s lilly-livered pacifism reminds me of Ronald Reagan’s foolish dreams of nuclear disarmament.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Lamar Odom traded to the Denver Nuggets in exchange for Chris “The Birdman” Andersen and future cash considerations … Lakers now in hot pursuit of Raja Bell

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Cleveland Cavaliers’ pursuit of Hawks swingman Marvin Williams centers at the moment on trying to convince the Hawks to do a sign-and-trade deal that would send Shaquille O’Neal to Atlanta, according to a league source. The Hawks do have an interest in the 38-year-old O’Neal, who is not likely to return to Cleveland next season. But Atlanta has budget limitations after agreeing to give guard Joe Johnson a $124 million max contract, with ownership unlikely to approve a deal for O’Neal or any other backup center that goes much above the veteran minimum. The Hawks are also interested in free agent center Brad Miller and Bucks free agent center Kurt Thomas.

    Cleveland got a $14.5 million trade exception by agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal for LeBron James to Miami, in addition to two future draft picks from the Heat. The Cavs could use part of the exception to absorb Williams’s $6.7 million salary for next season.

    For 2010-11, the Hawks’ savings would be the difference between the $6.7 million owed Marvin and Shaq’s new salary. For 2011-12, the savings would be Marvin’s $7.5 million salary minus Shaq’s salary. Shaq and Marvin would both be off the books in 2012-13, when Marvin makes $8.3 million, and the Hawks wouldn’t be on the hook for Marvin’s $7.5 million option in 2013-14.

    The Charlotte Bobcats are close to acquiring Shaun Livingston to help address their hole at point guard, an informed source told the Observer Wednesday.

    Signing Livingston would likely preclude the team from other options, such as trading for Minnesota’s Ramon Sessions or Indiana’s T.J. Ford, at least for now.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

  • HairyBush

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Seymour is overrated and overpaid.

    ***

    Kirk: couldn’t agree more

    pretty doggone solid supporting cast in N.E. during thier championship years and the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season

    if Tommy Kelly ever decides to become the dominant force everybody thought he had the potential to be, Seymour wouldn’t be needed. If Houston or Bryant step up, Little Richard might be out next year anyways …

    I’m glad Al Davis tagged Seymour though instead of trading away a 1st rounder on a 1-year rental that improved the defense NADA. John Henderson & Rolando McClain might make all the difference. Sey isn’t expected to carry the defense or even the D-Line anymore
    ————————————-

    I have to say that I live in Massachusetts and see and hear way to much about the Patriots. To say the Pats “didn’t miss a beat” without Seymour last year is an ignorant statement to say it nicely-They were a mess!. Do your research.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Matt Bonner signed just signed the biggest contract of his life — four years, $16 million.

    He is now living it large (as told to the News Express), rolling into the local deli with a new attitude.

    “When I splurge,” Bonner said, “I’m going to order double meat on my sandwich.”

    Just like Notorious B.I.G. said, “Mo Money, Mo Meat…” or something like that.

    Bonner – a stretch four, if you have to define him — is one of those players more valuable to the team he is with than he is on the open market. Look at it this way, according to 82games.com, Boner led the Spurs in +/- two seasons ago and was third this season behind Manu Ginobili. While that stat is not perfect, the fact is if the team is that much better when he is on the court over two seasons, he has value.

    Boner isn’t flashy, on or off the court. Which also fits in with the Spurs. He likes a good deli, not fancy foods.

    And the man likes his meat.

    -PBT

    LOL!

  • RaiderRockstar

    To say the Pats “didn’t miss a beat” without Seymour last year is an ignorant statement to say it nicely-They were a mess!. Do your research.

    ***

    HB,

    2008 (with Seymour): 10th total defense, 15th run defense

    2009 (without Seymour): 11th total defense, 13th run defense

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Right-wing machine attacks Michelle for focusing on childhood obesity
    by Jed Lewison

    The headline on Drudge Report was sinister, touching off racially paranoid fantasies in each of the 11 or so states where his site is still popular:

    “Michelle Tells Blacks to Increase Intensity”

    Increase intensity? Oh no! Michelle Obama is telling African Americans to band together to fight white people! Michele Bachmann and Glenn Beck were right! She’s coming to get us! They are coming to get us! And I’m scared!

    I was so freaked out that I actually followed Drudge’s link. And it sent me here, to an ABC News story mentioning nothing about the First Lady telling blacks to “increase intensity.”

    Huh? What was going on here? I thought Michelle Obama was trying to rile up blacks. Was ABC now participating in a conspiracy to cover up her remarks, just like the MSM stamped out the “get whitey” video tape?

    I needed to know the answers to these questions. So I hit the Google and Binged the search and found that rightwingers were all talking about Michelle Obama’s sinister comment.

    But I still couldn’t find what it was that she had said. Nonetheless, I knew that what she said must have been wrong. Everybody was outraged, and they should have been.

    It’s one thing when wingers give a speech to fundamentalist American Taliban whackjobs or run political ads calling President Obama a slavemaster, but it’s quite another thing when the First Lady speaks to the NAACP in an election year and tells blacks that now is the time to “increase intensity.” That is fanning the flames of racism, pure and simple. Right?

    But there was still part of me that wanted to see her full, unsnipped remarks. I just had to see each and every one of her awful, wretched words. So I kept on digging until I found the transcript.

    Actually, it turns out that the transcript was at my fingertips the whole time. It was sitting right there in my inbox from the White House Press Office. How nice of them to send me her hate speech.

    So with the transcript now open on the monitor in front of me, I rubbed my hands together, ready — and, yes, I’ll admit, a little bit afraid — to read her militant speech.

    It didn’t take long to find the relevant passage:

    “When African American communities are still hit harder than just about anywhere by this economic downturn, and so many families are just barely scraping by, I think the founders would tell us that now is not the time to rest on our laurels.

    When stubborn inequalities still persist — in education and health, in income and wealth — I think those founders would urge us to increase our intensity, and to increase our discipline and our focus and keep fighting for a better future for our children and our grandchildren. (Applause.)

    And that’s why I really wanted to come here today — because I wanted to talk with you about an issue that I believe cries out for our attention — one that is of particular concern to me, not just as First Lady, but as a mother who believes that we owe it to our kids to prepare them for the challenges that we know lie ahead. And that issue is the epidemic of childhood obesity in America today.”

    The first thing I noticed was that not only did Michelle tell African Americans to “increase intensity” but she also urged more “discipline.” Those were truly frightening words to hear, given that the race war was finally upon us.

    I kept on reading, hoping to gain insight into her battle plan.

    And that’s when it happened. After completing the next paragraph, I realized this wasn’t a speech about race war. In fact, Michelle Obama was talking about the scourge of childhood obesity.

    In a matter of seconds — maybe even faster than that — it dawned on me that I actually agreed with her. In fact, what she was saying was incontrovertibly true. It was obvious. We do need to increase our intensity to combat this important health problem. We do need more discipline in addressing fundamental health problems that hold some of our nation’s children back.

    Suddenly, I felt relieved. It was soothing to know that when it comes to Michelle Obama, there’s nothing to be afraid of. In fact, if you let yourself, you might just get inspired, because her speech was really a speech about love — love of country, love of community, and love for our nation’s children.

    Yet somehow the right-wing noise machine tried to turn her speech into one about hate. And in the end, it says more about them and their fears and their motivations than it does about Michelle Obama or any of the rest of us.

    Their paranoia really is the past. And slowly but surely we will close the door on it and find our way to a better future.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/13/883915/-Right-wing-machine-attacks-Michelle-for-focusing-on-childhood-obesity

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Examples of Republican “compassion” for those who have lost their jobs as a result of the recession:

    Pennsylvania Attorney General Tom Corbett, who is running for governor, said last week that unemployed people are purposely avoiding jobs so they can continue collecting benefits from the government: “The jobs are there. But if we keep extending unemployment, people are going to sit there and – I’ve literally had construction companies tell me, ‘I can’t get people to come back to work until…they say, I’ll come back to work when unemployment runs out.’”

    Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said in March that unemployment benefits don’t “create new jobs. In fact, if anything, continuing to pay people unemployment compensation is a disincentive for them to seek new work.”

    South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer compared the unemployed to stray animals back in January, saying that unemployment insurance is a lot like helping out strays. One is “facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply,” he said. “They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better.”

    In June, Nevada Senate nominee Sharron Angle said that “what has happened is the system of entitlement has caused us to have a spoilage with our ability to go out and get a job.” She added: “They keep extending these unemployment benefits to the point where people are afraid to go out and get a job because the job doesn’t pay as much as the unemployment benefit does.”

    Former House Majority Leader (and former Dancing With The Stars contestant) Tom DeLay appeared on CNN in March to point to “studies that have been done that shows that people stay on unemployment compensation and they don’t look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out.” When host Candy Crowley pointed out that saying “people are unemployed because they want to be” is a “hard sell,” DeLay responded: “Well, it is the truth.”

    Back in May, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) said that Congress needs to think twice about continuing unemployment benefits “because you’re out of the recession, you’re starting to see growth and you’re clearly going to dampen the capacity of that growth if you basically keep an economy that encourages people to, rather than go out and look for work, to stay on unemployment.”

    Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) said in February that he thinks that extending unemployment benefits yet again raises the question: “Is the government now creating hobos?”

  • Seymour Bush

    If the right wing conservatives have to attack the lst lady, (and they do) it just shows they have NO ANSWERS to what this society needs to get on track.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Today, even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for our country, he signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil! The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and NOT THE USA! Now here’s the real clincher… the Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil . . . .

    We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever!

    Wait, it gets more interesting. Guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is American BILLIONAIRE, George Soros, who was one of President Obama’s most generous financial supporter during his campaign.

  • Kirk

    Yikes!

    Raider Rockstar has the facts!

  • HairyBush

    I knew for a fact that you would bring that out. I am telling you for a fact that I (unfortunetley) had to suffer thru almost every pats game the last few years. I can confidentaly say the Pats were a lost group most of the time last year. I am not just talking about being dimantled by a guy like Peyton Manning, I’m talking about the Broncos game, the Ravens game, and so many others. Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit. I challenge you to watch the games (not just pull up #’s)and I guarantee you will see a DRASTIC difference in overall play. I read this blog daily and I can see You are a amart guy and you know stats only tell part of the story. I.E The Raiders “exceptional” pass defense in 2006 or Richard Seymour last year only getting 4 sacks when we both know he was disruptive in other ways.

  • Kirk

    Modern day conservatism is the political codification of selfishness.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    I simply do not believe Obama loaned $2bil to a Brazilian company, and that Obamaphobes would make up that lie to discredit his administratoin. So I checked into it:

    Fact check: Obama not involved in loan
    FACT: Brazil is buying American-made equipment and services.

    Truth be told there’s not a lot of truth in this claim.

    The genesis of the e-mail was a Wall Street Journal opinion piece in August 2009 and a November segment on Fox News Channel by host Glenn Beck, according to the fact-finding sources FactCheck.org and Snopes.com.

    On April 14, 2009, the Export-Import Bank approved a preliminary commitment to loan $2 billion to Petroleo Brasileiro S.A. (Petrobras).

    According to its charter, the Ex-Im Bank is an independent federal agency that helps finance the export of U.S. goods and services to international markets. The agency does not compete with private sector banks, but takes on and provides insurance for transactions that might be risky for others.

    The Ex-Im Bank, although mandated to support small business, has come under fire for previous involvement with such companies as Enron and Boeing, research shows. Some unscrupulous exporters also have been imprisoned for fraudulently using Ex-Im Bank money. But the bank says on its website that in the past 16 years, the bank “has netted the American people $4.9 billion and the jobs those exports have supported.”

    In any event, Ex-Im Bank, is a self-sustaining entity; it gets most of its financing from guarantees of loans and the fees it charges. Congress appropriates no money to it, so taxpayer money is not involved.

    Obama did not sign an executive order, nor would he have to for the Petrobras loan to take place, according to FactCheck.org and Snopes.com.

    Not only that, but the members of the bank when the loan decision was made were not appointed by Obama. At the time, the Ex-Im Bank notes, its board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush.

    Snopes.com does point out that the chairman and president of Ex-Im Bank is Fred P. Hochberg, an Obama appointee. But the president did not nominate him to his position until a week after the board approved the loan.

    The e-mail also says that the U.S. will not gain from this loan. Actually, U.S. companies should gain because Petrobras is using the money to buy American-made oilfield equipment and services, according to a July 29, 2009, news release.

    In February 2010, Ex-Im Bank authorized a $308 million medium-term credit guarantee under its $2 billion preliminary commitment to Petrobras. The financing will assist “significant sales from major U.S. exporters and small-business suppliers,” the bank said.

    The e-mail goes on to claim that billionaire George Soros – who has monetarily supported the ideals of the Democratic Party – would “benefit most” from the loan.

    Yes, he would benefit some as a major investor in Petrobras through his New York-basedhedge-fund, notes FactCheck.org and Snopes.com. Soros reduced his stake in the company before any money from the loan was dispensed.

    It is also true that China probably would benefit a little from the oil drilling, FactCheck.org and Snopes.com agree, but it certainly wouldn’t be the sole recipient of the oil. Brazil has agreed to export 200,000 barrels of oil a day to China from 2010 to 2019 in return for a loan from China of $10 billion – five times the amount of the Ex-Im Bank loan.

    http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-07-03/story/fact-check-obama-not-involved-loan

  • RaiderRockstar

    Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit

    ***

    HB,

    we weren’t talking about Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau or Ellis Hobbs …

    Seymour only

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Slip of the tongue by 1st Lady.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    AGAIN:

    The members of the bank when the loan decision was made were not appointed by Obama. At the time, the Ex-Im Bank notes, its board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush.

    Obama did not sign an executive order, nor would he have to for the Petrobras loan to take place.

    In any event, Ex-Im Bank, is a self-sustaining entity; it gets most of its financing from guarantees of loans and the fees it charges. Congress appropriates no money to it, so taxpayer money is not involved.

  • Seymour Bush

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Slip of the tongue by 1st Lady.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
    ===========================================

    Oh right, I forgot Barak Obama is actually a North Korean agent, born in Kenya who is leading our country to ruin so the Chinese Red Army can march in and make us all slaves like the delusional conservatives believe . How could I be so stupid? Rush Limbaugh said it so it must be true.

  • HairyBush

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 11:57 am
    Plays that probaly never would have happened if they didn’t lose so many key defenders last year (Dick Seymour being one of them)To say the Pats defense did not skip a beat the year Seymour was absent is crazy because not only was was he gone, but several other key veterans, Guys that may have lost a step but played really well as a unit

    ***

    HB,

    we weren’t talking about Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau or Ellis Hobbs …

    Seymour only
    ————————————
    to quote you-”the defense didn’t miss a beat without him last season”

    It sounds to me like your saying the Pats defense was just as good the year he left as years prior. This is where I beg to differ. I only bring other guys into the equasion to defend my point about there team defense not being as good. (regardless of what the #’s say) Seymour was a vital part of the Pats defense, his leadership and solid play were truly missed ecspecialy considering how young the Pats went on defense last year.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Here’s another conspiracy theory on Obama’s Birth Certificate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtvJ_nM47GM&NR=1

    LMFAO

  • HairyBush

    RR, BTW, why so down on Dick Seymour?

  • Seymour Bush

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    Here’s another conspiracy theory on Obama’s Birth Certificate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtvJ_nM47GM&NR=1

    LMFAO
    ————————————————-

    To me it would be funny if it wasn’t SO bizarre that knuckleheads actually think this is even remotely possible. But of course we are talking about people like mistabrOwn here, so I guess anything is possible.