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Camp questions: Will we see T.O.?

Eighth in a series analyzing quesitons and issues regarding the Raiders with players reporting to training camp in Napa a week from today:

Is it possible the Raiders will bring aboard Terrell Owens?

Columnist Monte Poole thinks so, and made his case in today’s Bay Area News Group publications.

If that argument sounds vaguely familiar, I wrote pretty much the same thing back on March 11.

If Monte thinks something, chances are pretty good the Raiders are thinking the opposite. The two sides have a special relationship that way.

And while the Raiders and I were on the same page on draft day with the selection of Rolando McClain, two developments in the offseason made it a lot less likely they would bring in Owens.

The first was an improvement in Darrius Heyward-Bey, last year’s No. 7 overall pick. While the second-year receiver still has to prove it during live contact, as well as during preseason and regular season games, there was a marked difference in the way he performed during minicamps and organized team activities open to the media.

The second was the appearance of Chaz Schilens during the last OTA open to the media. Schilens underwent a second surgery for on a broken fifth metatarsal on his left foot following the season, and the Raiders had to be at least a little nervous about him holding up. Coach Tom Cable originally said Schilens wouldn’t be ready to go until training camp, so he’s ahead of schedule.

I’m guessing that at this point the Raiders want to fully develop their young corps of receivers, which includes Louis Murphy, and won’t do anything to cut into their playing time by bringing in Owens.

As I mentioned on my on-line chat Tuesday, the best chance of seeing Owens would be if one of those three players were to be injured and out for a prolonged length of time.

That’s probably the game Owens is playing now _ waiting and watching to see if a team loses a receiver during training camp.

Previous camp questions:

Can less be more for Cable?

Can the starting linebackers hold up in coverage?

How good is Mike Mitchell?

Can Mario be super?

Can Higgins return to ’08 form?

Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

Can Bush be a beast?

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  • RaiderRockstar

    McGrady tweeted yesterday that he has plenty of interest:

    “clippers, bulls, lakers, heat….but that could change by the morning…lol..this is the NBA”

    The Heat will not be bringing him in, they have said privately they do not want to bring in another big name and personality that could in any way threaten the chemistry of their big three.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Matt Barnes was still trying to decide Wednesday afternoon whether he’ll take more money to play with the Cavaliers or chase a chance at a championship with the Lakers, Celtics or Heat.

    The Cavaliers can offer the most money by far of any of the teams that Barnes is considering. Cleveland has its full mid-level exception for next season, $5.8 million, to use to sign players. The Cavaliers also have the $14.5 million trade exception they received from Miami as part of the sign-and-trade deal earlier this month for LeBron James. But Cleveland won’t use the trade exception for Barnes, and it’s not likely it would use all of the mid-level for the 30-year-old forward. Cleveland opted to take the big trade exception for James rather than renouncing him and several other free agents to clear cap space.

    Just to break out the numbers on the contenders: The Lakers can offer the remaining $1.8 million from their mid-level exception (Steve Blake took up the first $4 million); the Heat and Celtics can only offer a veterans minimum of $1.2 million. Orlando does not have his “Bird rights” because he played for just one season for them, so they cannot exceed the cap to sign him. That’s what killed the sign-and-trade with Toronto.

    The money matters. Barnes has made “only” $7.7 million in his six years in the league. Yes, you and I would take that in a heartbeat, but in the financial world of the NBA that is nothing — every team in the NBA has at least a couple players making more than that this year alone, often players making twice that this year alone.

    Barnes has played well under pressure for contenders, he deserves a payday. But he’s not getting a big one. So he sits and is indecisive. Can’t really blame him.

  • Raider guy

    Good morning.

    A few weeks ago, Chris Cooley was interviewed on Sirius. He was sad about Campbell going because he and Campbell were such good friends.

    But the thing that came out of that interview was the little comment Cooley made that “Jason loves his receivers out there.”

    Of all the things to note in the two friends’ conversations, it sounds like the receivers have been a big part of what Campbell has been impressed with in Oakland.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Tracy McGrady = selfish hoops player. The complete opposite of a winner.

    Matt Barnes = unselfish hoopster. A complete winner.

  • Raider guy

    that is good.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Sources close to Nuggets star Carmelo Anthony have said that he expects to accept the team’s offer of a three-year, $65 million contract extension.

    Philadelphia 76ers signed free agent center Tony Battie.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

  • RaiderRockstar

    Tracy McGrady = selfish hoops player. The complete opposite of a winner.

    Matt Barnes = unselfish hoopster. A complete winner.

    ***

    so in other words, T-Mac will be a Laker and Barnes will join the Heat or Celtics instead of making more cash in Cleveland?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Hornets guard Chris Paul reportedly expresses interest in joining Lakers

    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/chris-paul-reportedly-expresses-interest-in-joining-the-lakers.html

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://www.oakglenisafuktard.com MistaBrown

    Gotta luv it!
    ___

    HOOVER, Ala. (AP)—Nick Saban didn’t pull punches Wednesday when discussing the improper contact with athletes by unscrupulous agents, comparing their behavior to that of a “pimp.”

  • RaiderRockstar

    Chris Johnson signs his new deal

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)

    Chris Johnson has officially received the pay raise he was looking for.

    A league source tells us that Johnson signed the deal on Thursday that PFT first reported was agreed to on Monday. The contract will pay Johnson more money this season by accelerating some escalators that he had unlocked for future seasons.

    So Johnson will arrive at Titans practices next week a happy camper. And he’ll stay that way — at least until next offseason.

  • RaiderRockstar

    training camp starts up next thursday.

    1 week boys!

  • http://www.oakglenisafuktard.com MistaBrown

    Maybe B Favre’s agent has been reading this blog I’ve been calling Favre a Drama queen for 2 years. Retire already!

  • RaiderRockstar

    former 2x Pro Bowl guard Shawn Andrews (Eagles) now plays for the Omaha Nighthawks in the UFL ???

    He missed all of last year with a back injury. only played in the first 2 games of 2008 because of a back injury

    geez. I hope Robert Gallery’s back holds up!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Al Davis,

    please sign C Kevin Mawae & FB Brad Hoover this week before training camp starts up. If they suck, cut them!

    Thanks.

    RaiderRockstar

  • Richard Bentley

    Monte Cess Poole just stirs the pot. He may have got something right one time, what year was that?

  • RaiderRockstar

    DT Jason Shirley (Bengals)
    S Daniel Bullocks (Lions)
    WR Chris Davis (Titans) *** return man
    FB’s: BJ Askew, Kyle Eckel, Jeremi Johnson, Dan Kreider

  • RaiderRockstar

    I wonder how many DMAC jerseys & bobbleheads Dakota would have to sell to open up a Pawn Shop in Holland?

  • J Wiggle

    Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!

  • Nnamdi21

    Still not sold…

    Silver & Black Sleepers pt. 8

    “The new Wes Welker?”

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  • Nnamdi21

    J Wiggle Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
    Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!

    ====================

    Beasty!

    I hope so, but he’s been struggling. I’m sure they may have a few packages. but his forte was using that massive wing span to snag edge rushers in college.

    Negated with his move inside to guard and he has struggled mightly in run blocking.

    Hard to imagine him in on pass protection plays and harder to imagine him in on short yardage run plays.

    Hope he can improve enough to make an impact, but not sure yet.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!

    ***

    Bruce Campbell won’t see the field this year unless somebody gets hurt. Even then, he’ll struggle

    Barnes is your backup LG behind Gallery and Morris is your backup RG behind Carlisle

    Henderson/Veldheer
    Satele/Morris
    Walker/Pears

  • Nnamdi21

    Not sure what happened to the numbering there…oh well, RR good morning!

    I think you’re right about Campbell of course but would like to see Khalif challenge for RT.

    Walker may have a shot but I really liked him at guard.

    He hated it apparently filling for Gallery but he leveled some mo’ fo’s and blew open some huge holes for our RBs.

  • J Wiggle

    he has struggled mightly in run blocking.

    ——————————————————-

    Source ????

    Practices are closed so how do you know what is going on? Because the guy said he was struggling after the first practice of him moving from 1) college and 2) changing positions ….

    Man, you guys will run with some stuff, lol!

  • Nnamdi21

    Mods on a tear? went from 400 sumthing to 382..

  • Nnamdi21

    J Wiggle Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
    he has struggled mightly in run blocking.

    ——————————————————-

    Source ????

    Practices are closed so how do you know what is going on? Because the guy said he was struggling after the first practice of him moving from 1) college and 2) changing positions ….

    Man, you guys will run with some stuff, lol!

    ==========================

    Source?!!!

    JERRY MCDONALD and BRUCE CAMPBELL!!!!

  • J Wiggle

    Bruce Campbell won’t see the field this year unless somebody gets hurt. Even then, he’ll struggle

    ——————————————————-

    If you say so mayne …

  • Nnamdi21

    Don’t get me wrong J Wig, I’d like nothing more than to be proven wrong on this one.

    If the line struggles…it could be another looong season…

  • J Wiggle

    Source?!!!

    JERRY MCDONALD and BRUCE CAMPBELL!!!!

    ——————————————————

    So let me get this straight …

    Your contention is Campbell is struggling with run blocking?

    Even though there have been no pads put on and everything has pretty much been non contact?

    Jerry Mac tells you that gets to see 1 outta what 5 practices? And limited viewing at that?

    Bruce Campbell is a beast and will be an impact OL for us!

    Print that!

  • lefty12

    Good job Mods!!!!!

  • J Wiggle

    I’d like nothing more than to be proven wrong on this one.

    ——————————————————

    I’m just trying to figure out how the guy can’t get on the field at RG in some of your opinions?

    The guy was a top 5 LT prospect and he can’t play frickin RG?????

    Yeah he’s raw, for a LT that is. But RG ??? ANd replacing one of the worst in the league in Carlisle????

    Shouldn’t be that hard or that much of a drop off, if any.

    IMO

  • lefty12

    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.

  • Nnamdi21

    lefty12 Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.

    ======================

    That would be GREAT!

    Fix the O line, save the Raiders….

  • J Wiggle

    RRS …

    It seems the mods are not letting me post about politics, lol!

    5 posts have been deleted, or are “awaiting …”

    Hilarious!

    Guess I’ll move on …

  • J Wiggle

    lefty12 Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am

    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.

    ——————————————————-

    Mid season?

    My theory is we all know RG and LT were probably 2 of the worst postions we had last year. Why go half a year with the same players that are arguably the worst at their positions in the league?

    In other words, how can Campbell or Veldheer be any worse? Let them get that 6 games of experience under their belts instead of sitting on the bench.

  • lefty12

    Cable has said when you draft players in the 1st couple of rds. you want someone who can come in and contribute right away.Veldheer should get an opportunity right away and Campbell was projected to go early at tackle so as J says moving to guard shouldn’t be that big of a deal.

  • lefty12

    The reason I say by mid season is due to the way the Raiders usually do things.They usually ease draft picks in instead of throwing them out there-except for the 1st rd picks,ie.-DHB,McLain,Huff,etc.But I’m with you,I’d give them the exp. yesterday.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Well, me at least.

  • http://www.oakglenisafuktard.com MistaBrown

    No that would mean our O-line was garbage and had to make a switch mid year. Not all a good scenario! Think things through before you post.
    _____

    lefty12 Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.

  • bcz24

    Did you really just call Bruce Campbell a bust BEFORE his first training camp? Can a fourth round pick even be a bust?

  • lefty12

    If Cooper and Henderson(without Gallery) play as they did last year,our line will be garbage just as it was last year.

  • RaiderRockstar

    BCZ: we could have taken a much better player than Bruce Campbell in RD4

    for all we know BC could have been sitting there in RD 6 or 7!

    the guy played LT in college and was awful. we’re trying to make him a 2nd string RG because he posted good numbers at the combine? i’ll pass on this kid. he doesn’t have it. and he’s certainly not going to beat out Cooper Carlisle at RG who has only missed 1 start (due to injury) in the last 5 years! thats just silly

    maybe Cable can “coach him up”, but I think he’ll just flop like Kwame Harris.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the O-Line will be fine

    Starters: Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Carlisle-Walker

    Backups: Veldheer-Barnes-Morris-Campbell-Pears

  • http://www.oakglenisafuktard.com MistaBrown

    If this, if that, blah, blah, blah, its a new year, new start everybody is healthy. S.T.F.U and quit yer beeotchin.

    If Cable doesn’t get this Oline pumpin on all cylinders this year he take his fat a$$ to the JaMarcus Bob@ma unemployment line.

  • bcz24

    Wow… you guys cant help but find something ANYTHING to complain about… we could have gotten someone better in the 4th round? How do you even know? THEY HAVENT EVEN PUT ON PADS YET! Can the man please play ONE SNAP of NFL football before we annoint him a FOURTH round bust…

  • Thec07

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
    Hornets guard Chris Paul reportedly expresses interest in joining Lakers

    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/chris-paul-reportedly-expresses-interest-in-joining-the-lakers.html

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    I said this a while back… Would be a good counter to what is going on in miami, provided Phil does not stick exclusively with the triangle. Paul however would bust the SCAP, as he is at 13-14 per…

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