Camp questions: Will we see T.O.?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, July 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am in Oakland Raiders.
Eighth in a series analyzing quesitons and issues regarding the Raiders with players reporting to training camp in Napa a week from today:
Is it possible the Raiders will bring aboard Terrell Owens?
Columnist Monte Poole thinks so, and made his case in today’s Bay Area News Group publications.
If that argument sounds vaguely familiar, I wrote pretty much the same thing back on March 11.
If Monte thinks something, chances are pretty good the Raiders are thinking the opposite. The two sides have a special relationship that way.
And while the Raiders and I were on the same page on draft day with the selection of Rolando McClain, two developments in the offseason made it a lot less likely they would bring in Owens.
The first was an improvement in Darrius Heyward-Bey, last year’s No. 7 overall pick. While the second-year receiver still has to prove it during live contact, as well as during preseason and regular season games, there was a marked difference in the way he performed during minicamps and organized team activities open to the media.
The second was the appearance of Chaz Schilens during the last OTA open to the media. Schilens underwent a second surgery for on a broken fifth metatarsal on his left foot following the season, and the Raiders had to be at least a little nervous about him holding up. Coach Tom Cable originally said Schilens wouldn’t be ready to go until training camp, so he’s ahead of schedule.
I’m guessing that at this point the Raiders want to fully develop their young corps of receivers, which includes Louis Murphy, and won’t do anything to cut into their playing time by bringing in Owens.
As I mentioned on my on-line chat Tuesday, the best chance of seeing Owens would be if one of those three players were to be injured and out for a prolonged length of time.
That’s probably the game Owens is playing now _ waiting and watching to see if a team loses a receiver during training camp.
Previous camp questions:
Can the starting linebackers hold up in coverage?
Can Higgins return to ‘08 form?
Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?
RAIDERS GET ONIONED
I try and check in with The Onion every day, and this story on the Raiders is one reason why.
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July 21st, 2010 at 9:56 am
1st?
July 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am
Chaz is very unlikely to last an entire season….bring in TO until Chaz proves his health….and then we get some entertainment for the year at least!
July 21st, 2010 at 10:09 am
Will we see T.O? No. He wants to go to a playoff team.
Second question…will we see 6 wins? No.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:10 am
look at the Raider WR numbers from last year, and the year before, and …
July 21st, 2010 at 10:11 am
Develop the young guys-screw TO and all his baggage.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:11 am
Funniest thing I’ve ever read on this blog…
“The first was an improvement in Darrius Heyward-Bey, last year’s No. 7 overall pick. While the second-year receiver still has to prove it during live contact,..”
July 21st, 2010 at 10:16 am
Dakota Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 9:44 am
Anything new?
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Bynum’s knee surgery postponed to 7/28; Taiwanese-American PG from Harvard chooses Warriors over Lakers; Sarah Palin to solve financial crisis based on her experience living next to a bank; Raider Image in LA cancels annual autograph signing.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:20 am
Raiders Excited About Prospect Of Signing Free Agent JaMarcus Russell
OAKLAND, CA—Raiders owner Al Davis enthusiastically praised free agent quarterback JaMarcus Russell at a press conference Thursday, calling the first overall pick in the 2007 draft an exciting playmaker and a perfect fit for the team’s offense. “Obviously JaMarcus Russell has had some troubles on and off the field, but I’ve seen nothing that indicates he couldn’t find a home with the Raiders and reinvigorate his career,” Davis said. “We’d be extremely fortunate to acquire a quarterback like Russell, a player who can beat you with his arm or his feet, to help us overcome our recent disappointments at that position.” Davis told reporters that the Raiders were currently negotiating a deal with Russell that included more than $22 million in guaranteed bail money.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:21 am
Love The Onion.
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God Hinting At Retirement
July 19, 2010 | ISSUE 46•29
God’s eternal presence will gradually become less apparent as he eases out of day-to-day omnipotency.
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THE HEAVENS—At a press conference Tuesday, God Almighty, our Lord and Heavenly Father, gave his strongest indication yet that he might soon step down from his post as the supreme ruler of all things.
Following a routine address during which God confirmed the recent extinction of several thousand species, the Divine Creator fielded questions regarding rumors of his possible retirement.
“I’ve been at this a long time,” said God, ∞, the all-knowing, all-powerful being who has presided over the cosmos since forming it from sheer nothingness nearly 14 billion years ago. “And the truth is, this was never something I planned on doing forever. Lately, in fact, I’ve begun to wonder if I should move on sooner rather than later.”
Over the past few centuries, God has on numerous occasions deflected speculation that his reign might be winding down, but his remarks Tuesday appeared to signal a shift in celestial policy.
While touting his accomplishments as the prime mover of all space and time, the Lord spoke with surprising candor about the recent struggles of his absolute dominion over heaven and earth, acknowledging that it hasn’t always been easy for him to keep up with the rapid pace of modern existence.
Enlarge ImageA stunning vista brought into being toward the end of God’s career.
“I couldn’t be more proud of the universe I brought forth,” God said. “But a lot has changed since then, and if I’m completely honest with myself, I’m probably not as passionate about my work as I once was. Things change. Who knows? I might not be the right entity for this job, going forward.”
“Maybe we need some new ideas around here,” God added. “Maybe heaven needs some new blood.”
He Who Commanded Light to Shine Out of Darkness told reporters that his biggest regret was putting his job above spending more time with his son. In particular, God mentioned that he deeply lamented missing his only child’s once-in-a-lifetime crucifixion.
“Your son’s down there being martyred in front of all these people, but you can’t be there for it,” said God, his voice cracking slightly. “He thought I’d forsaken him. Of course, I was tied up working on something that seemed important at the time but that I can’t even remember now. And I’ll never get that moment back.”
Many worry that God’s retirement could create a void at the helm of creation that no omnipotent deity would be available to fill. However, sources close to the Heavenly Father pointed out that he has been gradually delegating key responsibilities to respected subordinates, such as the Holy Ghost, for at least an eon.
Attempting to downplay such concerns, God told reporters that he wasn’t “going anywhere just yet” and that, in any case, the universe was largely self-sustaining these days.
“This place pretty much runs itself by now,” the Lord said. “And besides, how many people still notice I’m around? To be frank, I’m not even sure I’m much more than a beloved figurehead at this point.”
God was quick to emphasize that his potential retirement wouldn’t mean a complete withdrawal from cosmological affairs, but would instead mark a transitional period during which he would step back a bit and take on a different role.
While he ruled out the possibility of creating a new universe, the Eternal One said he would be open to the idea of working as a consultant, perhaps judging the dead, offering his opinion on which civilizations should be wiped out by natural disasters, or performing the occasional miracle on a strictly freelance basis.
God also said he hoped to find free time to catch up on years of unanswered prayers, putter around with black holes in his basement, and, for the first time ever, take a trip just for the fun it.
“Maybe I’ll visit Europe,” God said. “I’ve never been in the Vatican, and I’ve heard it’s supposed to be beautiful.”
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-hinting-at-retirement,17747/
July 21st, 2010 at 10:22 am
Thanks for the update Bo.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:23 am
Attempting to downplay such concerns, God told reporters that he wasn’t “going anywhere just yet” and that, in any case, the universe was largely self-sustaining these days.
“This place pretty much runs itself by now,” the Lord said. “And besides, how many people still notice I’m around? To be frank, I’m not even sure I’m much more than a beloved figurehead at this point.”
July 21st, 2010 at 10:24 am
Probably a good move by that rookie to sign with the W’s, then when he is seasoned he can come over to the Lakers and win some games.
Do the W’s have all bad luck? I see David Lee hurt a finger practicing for team USA.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
I went to Inception yesterday….loved it. I don’t care for DiCrappio much, but he was great.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:28 am
The Onion article about Russell wouldn’t be so funny if there wasn’t a grain of truth to it. JaMarcus Russell, even to this day, possesses all of the qualities Al Davis wants in a QB. Has an arm. Can scramble. Is a reclamation project with issues. In fact, I think that Onion article quotes Al Davis nearly verbatim from when he signed Randy Moss, about troubles “on and off” the field.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:30 am
To all of the passengers who suffered injuries on that LA bound flight that hit severe turbulence: It’s called a safety belt.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:32 am
The Inception trailer looked so fake I figured I’d save the $15. Too much CG. Or I could just get bombed and enjoy it like I did with Avatard.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:35 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 10:30 am
To all of the passengers who suffered injuries on that LA bound flight that hit severe turbulence: It’s called a safety belt.
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And you think calling Barkley a cancer is insensitive? And Jamarcus cannot scramble. Well, maybe a dozen eggs but thats it.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:37 am
Uh..Bo, people don’t choose to get cancer. People do however choose to walk around an airplane cabin when a flight hits turbulence. Nice try, kiddo.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:43 am
Yet you were referring to actual injuries MR. I wasn’t referring to cancer patients at all, but rather to a well-known malignant teammate from the sports world.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:48 am
Why are there so few compelling, believable leading men under 40? DiCaprio, Pitt, Keanu, Depp, Cruise, etc…all seem like punks. There is no one who can claim to be this generation’s Clint, Jack, Pacino, Paul Newman or Dustin Hoffman.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:55 am
I was referring to people having a choice between putting on a safety belt when a flight hits turbulence, and ignoring it. I made no specific reference to anyone’s injury. Could have been a broken toe, could have had their skull cracked. Bottom line is, it was their stupidity to not sit down and buckle up the minute turbulence hit. Taking on mother nature isn’t wise. Cancer victims on the other hand don’t choose cancer.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:56 am
“If Monte thinks something, chances are pretty good the Raiders are thinking the opposite. The two sides have a special relationship that way”.
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Best observation in the whole article.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:01 am
I guess we’ll see T.O. soon (Chaz is destined for a substantial injury)
July 21st, 2010 at 11:01 am
Bo, it’s your age. Clint, Jack, Pacino, ARE your generation, because you grew up watching them. If you are in your thirties, then you’re just a nostalgic person, you’re not into things in your era. To most thirty something film audiences today, Cruise and Pitt are compelling, that’s why they have jobs. I happen to agree with you. But it’s not about what we think. It’s about what film audiences in general think. And to them, Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt are Clint Eastwood and Jack Nicholson. It’s absurd to us, but they believe it. Womens’ views have changed, too. Women don’t like guys rough around the edges anymore. They’re into pretty boys. Guys like Jack and Al Pacino are just creepy to women these days. Times have changed. That old white man’s world is dwindling away, and cinema is just another aspect of it.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:02 am
I was referring to people putting Charles Barkley on their roster and then when a season hits turbulence, ignoring it. I made no specific reference to anyone’s disease. Bottom line is, it was their stupidity to not sit down and buckle up the minute Charles Barkley hit the squad. Taking on the Round Mound of Rebound isn’t wise. Cancer victims on the other hand don’t choose cancer. GMs chose Barkley.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:04 am
I think we’re squared away on the cancer thing, Bo. My apologies.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:04 am
That old white man’s world is dwindling away
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Huh? All the punks I cited are also white.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:04 am
I think we’re squared away on the cancer thing, Bo. My apologies.
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Must be a troll, lol.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
And I certainly don’t mock people who are injured at no fault of their own. But not getting your ass in your seat and buckling up when turbulence hits is just another sign of modern day arrogance and stupidity, and anyone injured was asking for it.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:07 am
Why is everyone claiming Chaz is ‘destined’ to get injured yet nobody says the same thing about D.McFadden who has actually been injured more often-nagging injuries yet still injuries.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:08 am
MR, the gist of my actor complaint is just that I DO NOT BUY Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise or DiCaprio or Depp as heroic figures in movies. Can you imagine remaking Deer Hunter with Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves instead of Deniro and Walken? It would become a bad comedy.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:08 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:04 am
That old white man’s world is dwindling away
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Huh? All the punks I cited are also white.
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But would you consider them “men”, in that sense that you do Nicholson or Pacino? Remember Peter Faulk? In the ’70s you could write any old white character and make him a star, didn’t have to have the looks. Today, you have to be a pretty boy. Hollywood is no longer a white man’s world. It’s a metrosexual man’s world. That’s where you get Cruise and DeCaprio.
…And, speaking DeCaprio, some good directors are able to mix the old with the new, as Scorsese did with The Departed. Showed the best of the old school men’s men, i.e., Nicholson, Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, and a modern day pretty boy like DeCaprio.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:09 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
And I certainly don’t mock people who are injured at no fault of their own. But not getting your ass in your seat and buckling up when turbulence hits is just another sign of modern day arrogance and stupidity, and anyone injured was asking for it.
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Perhaps, although some turbulence hits unexpectedly when the light is off.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:10 am
And, speaking DeCaprio, some good directors are able to mix the old with the new, as Scorsese did with The Departed.
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Leonardo ruined that movie. Wholly implausible.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Hollywood is all about looks, all about female audiences. Even action movies are made with women in mind. An action flick that only gets male audiences is considered a box office failure. That’s why all action flicks have some kind of romantic angle, and try to cast a female lead that women will admire. Bottom line, in the old days women were into men’s men like Clint. They’re not today. Times have changed. The country is more feminized. Women don’t want men anymore, they want a pretty boy/slave to lead around by the nose. They want him to look good enough to show off to their friends, yet at the same time to be their servant. And they want to see that portrayal of men in movies they see. They don’t want a self made man’s man, who does what he wants. Women view that as a threat today. That’s why you don’t see compelling male leads in hollywood.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:15 am
There were pretty boys back in the old days too MR, i.e. Redford, Newman. They just didn’t get cast for the roles that needed a McQueen, Brando or Deniro.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
I’m guessing that at this point the Raiders want to fully develop their young corps of receivers, which includes Louis Murphy, and won’t do anything to cut into their playing time by bringing in Owens.
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Agreed. pass on Owens!
I wanted Moose to mentor the youngsters and give us a move-the-chains possession WR for 1 year. he retired
we drafted Jacoby Ford for the return duties, instead of letting Cartwright, Figurs, Miller & Higgins battle it out with a few undrafted kids …
he have 5 young wides now with Sanjay Lal as WR Coach. not exactly what i’d call an “ideal situation”, but it is what it is. Todd Watkins might hang on as the 6th WR and I wouldn’t exactly call him a veteran either.
if somebody gets hurt, that’ll give more reps to the guy behind him – no need to search for ANOTHER young WR or get a washed up malcontent like Terrell.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Redford and Newman may have been pretty boys but would you put them in to the pussified category of Cruise and Decapprio?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:20 am
They had Redford facing off against Gandolfini in the Last Castle. Redford wore both hats.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:21 am
How can Terrell Owens hurt the Raiders?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:23 am
I think we do NEED a veteran Reciever to help mentor these kids, but it’s not “Me-O”…he’s a proven cancer, on a team that finally seems to be building some chemistry, can you imagine him getting the Javon treatment here…he’d burn down the building.
As for Leo, it’s been all downhill since Basketball Diaries…
July 21st, 2010 at 11:24 am
How can Terrell Owens hurt the Raiders?
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team chemistry may mean little to Al Davis or you (a poor man’s 75-81 year old owner/gm Al Davis), but it makes a difference in the W/L column!
July 21st, 2010 at 11:26 am
Rockstar, Al Davis is the general manager of the team, and is involved with every decision. If he doesn’t believe in chemistry, then then team obviously isn’t going to have any chemistry anyway. So, again, how can Terrell Owens hurt us? According to your logic, it seems Al Davis is hurting us, and he’s signed for the year. And then some.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:27 am
Van Heathen, give me an example of this “chemistry” you’re seeing with the Raiders.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:29 am
Van Heathen says the team has chemistry, RockStar says chemistry leads to wins. Yet, the Raiders didn’t improve by one win from their previous year. They finished at 5-11. So what gives?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
lefty12 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:07 am
Why is everyone claiming Chaz is ‘destined’ to get injured yet nobody says the same thing about D.McFadden who has actually been injured more often-nagging injuries yet still injuries.
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McFadden will be injured at some point this season as well. Probaly not to the extent Chaz will hurt himself. Happy?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
MR: Tom Cable has a policy and it’s being enforced “no knuckleheads”
i’m not sure if he has Al Davis’ ear or somebody else does, but something has changed in recent years … otherwise Owens would be wearing silver & black last year or right now this offseason
there would be no “maybe if somebody gets hurt” discussion.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:31 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:29 am
Van Heathen says the team has chemistry, RockStar says chemistry leads to wins. Yet, the Raiders didn’t improve by one win from their previous year. They finished at 5-11. So what gives?
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no Jamarcus that’s what gives
July 21st, 2010 at 11:32 am
no Jamarcus that’s what gives
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JaMarcus gives … turnovers and sizzurp
he also takes … naps and money
July 21st, 2010 at 11:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
MR: Tom Cable has a policy and it’s being enforced “no knuckleheads”
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I’m going to assume you’re joking.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
NO Jamarcus= at least 2 more wins by default
July 21st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
but something has changed in recent years … otherwise Owens would be wearing silver & black last year or right now this offseason
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Not necessarily. What makes you think Owens wants to come here? Could you imagine being in T.O.’s shoes if you sign to Oakland this early and NE, Indy, or NO winds up with an injured receiver in camp?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:32 am
no Jamarcus that’s what gives
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JaMarcus gives … turnovers and sizzurp
he also takes … naps and money
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While we are at it… He also takes down large buffets by himself
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
NO Jamarcus= at least 2 more wins by default
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According to what? Statistically, we had more wins in the 3 years Russell was here than in the 3 years before he was here. Russell, statistically, has only HELPED the Raiders.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
but something has changed in recent years … otherwise Owens would be wearing silver & black last year or right now this offseason
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Not necessarily. What makes you think Owens wants to come here? Could you imagine being in T.O.’s shoes if you sign to Oakland this early and NE, Indy, or NO winds up with an injured receiver in camp?
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At this point I think T.O. will just be happy to have caught on with a team so he can inflate his numbers for the hall of fame. IMO
July 21st, 2010 at 11:41 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
NO Jamarcus= at least 2 more wins by default
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According to what? Statistically, we had more wins in the 3 years Russell was here than in the 3 years before he was here. Russell, statistically, has only HELPED the Raiders.
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LOL Really?!?!??!
Come on, you aren’t seriously going to take that angle.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
It seems you guys are only interested in mocking Russell, not putting up an effective argument that the Raiders are any better now. And there’s a simple reason for this. They’re not any better. That’s why none of you can give any examples, football related, as to how the Raiders will be better. Because there isn’t one. It’s the same system in Oakland. Same offense. Same attitude. Same chaos. You guys know the team won’t be any better, but you have the convenience of there not being any games to lose right now, and it gives you the high ground to claim we will be better. That’s it. That’s your whole argument. You can’t make any football related argument, using football related facts, to demonstrate how the Raiders will be better this year. Because there aren’t any.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
I’d be happy if neither player got hurt.Chaz had a freak injury last year that lingered and bothered him apparently all season.He had more surgery to solve the problem this off-season.McFadden has had different nagging injuries every year.That bothers me more than a freak injury like a broken foot while admittedly the foot could be a sign of frailty,but lets hope not.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
At this point I think T.O. will just be happy to have caught on with a team so he can inflate his numbers for the hall of fame. IMO
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So, again, why would he want to come here? He’s not going to inflate his numbers in Oakland.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:47 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:41 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
NO Jamarcus= at least 2 more wins by default
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According to what? Statistically, we had more wins in the 3 years Russell was here than in the 3 years before he was here. Russell, statistically, has only HELPED the Raiders.
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LOL Really?!?!??!
Come on, you aren’t seriously going to take that angle.
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What angle is that? FACTS? Yes, I will take that angle. Somebody here has to. Bottom line is, it’s a FACT that the team won more games in Russell’s 3 years here than the team did the 3 years before he was here. Is there a better angle to take than referencing facts? What angle are you taking? The one where you just throw your false hopes out in the wind? Like the Raiders automatically picking up 2 wins because Russell is gone? Again, this is based on what? What’s your angle making this claim? It’s not based on statistics, that’s for sure. Because statistics argue against it.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:53 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
It seems you guys are only interested in mocking Russell, not putting up an effective argument that the Raiders are any better now. And there’s a simple reason for this. They’re not any better. That’s why none of you can give any examples, football related, as to how the Raiders will be better. Because there isn’t one. It’s the same system in Oakland. Same offense. Same attitude. Same chaos. You guys know the team won’t be any better, but you have the convenience of there not being any games to lose right now, and it gives you the high ground to claim we will be better. That’s it. That’s your whole argument. You can’t make any football related argument, using football related facts, to demonstrate how the Raiders will be better this year. Because there aren’t any.
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Logical football arguement as to why the Raiders will be better.
1)Jason Campbell Not Jamarcus as starting QB
2) DHB and Murphy have more experience under the belt. WR is the biggest position for a player to break out in year 2.
3) Hue Jax using McFadden like R. Bush. Hue Jax not calling predictable plays.
4) Cable W/ less responsibility.
5)Mcclain taking over for a soft K.Morrison
6)Seymour having a training camp with Houston. They both should be nasty this season and feed off each other.
7) Jacoby elevating our return game.
8)Nnamdi and the kickers continue to do there thing
9) Broncos took a step back, We are better than the Cheifs, and Chargers lost a lot of key personnel.
10) No Cornell Green, a healthy Gallery and some promising young talent on the O-Line
That is where my optimism comes from-K?
July 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
At this point I think T.O. will just be happy to have caught on with a team so he can inflate his numbers for the hall of fame. IMO
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So, again, why would he want to come here? He’s not going to inflate his numbers in Oakland.
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some numbers are better than no numbers
July 21st, 2010 at 11:56 am
“No more JaMarcus” is it? That’s all the examples you guys have to support your argument that we’ll be better? No Russell? How about what we will do to win games? Will we be a pass or run offense? Balanced? A lot of you don’t even know the answer to that. Who will be Campbell’s targets? All of his receivers are young and unproven, except the TE, but you can’t rely on the TE every play, too easy for defenses to stop. Can our line run block? Will we even run the football? How disciplined is the offense? Would you say it’s as disciplined as when Gruden was here? How will defenses match up against a young and unproven receiving corp? Can Campbell read blitzes? Will defenses force him to make errant throws all day long by putting pressure on him, especially considering our line is suspect to begin with? Can you answer any of these questions? Or are you going to insist that 2 opponents this year will basically forfeit games to us just because Russell is no longer with us? Will teams automatically fear the Oakland Raiders now that Russell is gone? Are teams dreading playing the Raiders now? Just perplexed as to how they will play the Raiders? How they will stop them? Are other teams saying, “wow, Russell’s gone. This team’s going to be hard to beat now. What do we do?”.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:56 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:30 am
but something has changed in recent years … otherwise Owens would be wearing silver & black last year or right now this offseason
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Not necessarily. What makes you think Owens wants to come here? Could you imagine being in T.O.’s shoes if you sign to Oakland this early and NE, Indy, or NO winds up with an injured receiver in camp?
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T.O.’s aspirations to be an actor is what makes me think T.O. would love to be as close to L.A. as he can possibly get.
Not a great reason to choose a team, but I think it is what he is looking for.
July 21st, 2010 at 11:58 am
The TO arguement as to whether he is a disruptive force to a team or “how can he hurt the Raiders” is missing the REAL point that guy is unemployed.
He’s done. Guy can’t get open on hos own anymore, and you don’t run your offense through a 38yo slow receiver who drops a LOT of balls.
Thats how he can hurt the Raiders, by sucking on the field.
IF Chaz gets hurt or Bey continues to show growing pains in becoming a play maker THEN maybe we sign a vet WR.
Don’t want or need TO. So far 32 teams agree with me.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:02 pm
1)Jason Campbell Not Jamarcus as starting QB
Oooh. Jason Campbell. Look out, NFL.
2) DHB and Murphy have more experience under the belt. WR is the biggest position for a player to break out in year 2.
Never heard that. Most receivers take a few years to learn this game, except for the great ones. You’re assuming DHB and Murphy are the next Brown and Rice. Fail.
3) Hue Jax using McFadden like R. Bush. Hue Jax not calling predictable plays.
Would be good if that’s the case. But will it be up to Hue?
4) Cable W/ less responsibility.
Some endorsement for the Head Coach.
5)Mcclain taking over for a soft K.Morrison
An unproven rookie and upgrade? Little ahead of yourself, are you?
6)Seymour having a training camp with Houston. They both should be nasty this season and feed off each other.
Really? Will they be playing each other? This is the NFL. You’re either a player or you’re not.
7) Jacoby elevating our return game.
As if special teams is the problem…
8)Nnamdi and the kickers continue to do there thing
Well, let’s hope so. If they don’t, we could wind up a 2 win team instead of a 5 win team.
9) Broncos took a step back, We are better than the Cheifs, and Chargers lost a lot of key personnel.
How did the Broncos take a step back? We’re better than the Chiefs? How so? Chargers lost a lot of key personnel? Enough to drop how many games?
10) No Cornell Green, a healthy Gallery and some promising young talent on the O-Line
A healthy Gallery means an injury prone Gallery. Promising doesn’t win games.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
At this point I think T.O. will just be happy to have caught on with a team so he can inflate his numbers for the hall of fame. IMO
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So, again, why would he want to come here? He’s not going to inflate his numbers in Oakland.
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some numbers are better than no numbers
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So, the Raiders are the only team that will take Owens? Is that what you’re saying?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
what does it hurt to bring TO in? i don’t think anyone can question his work ethic. he’s never smacked a “young lady” up or organized a dog fighting ring. i say sign him up. at the first sign of trouble, cut him. at the very least, he and DHB can exchange notes on how to drop passes.
there you go mods. PG version.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
T.O. has aspirations to become an actor? Did he ever say that?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Owens is 36, Lofty. Rice was 40 in the big ‘02 season.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
At this point I think T.O. will just be happy to have caught on with a team so he can inflate his numbers for the hall of fame. IMO
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So, again, why would he want to come here? He’s not going to inflate his numbers in Oakland.
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some numbers are better than no numbers
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So, the Raiders are the only team that will take Owens? Is that what you’re saying?
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NO, I am saying that I think at this point in his career he will be happy to catch on with any team for the next couple years. Would he be happier going to a contender? sure, but he may not have the option. It remains to be seen. Even though T.O. is cocky on the outside and portrays himself a certain way, I think he knows deep down he has a lost a step.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
# JLofty Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:58 am
So far 32 teams agree with me.
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Delusional, are we? 32 teams have a receiver roster with all receivers being more productive then Terrell Owens? Sure you’re going to stand on that? Sure you’re not going to consider contract negotiations as a likely reason for Terrell not having signed anywhere?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Jamarcus could never learn the full playbook.
Jamarcus could never lead the offense, or inspire them.
Jamarcus could never throw short passes.
Jamarcus could never be accurate in his drops.
Jamarcus could never limit the fumbles.
Jamarcus could never use mobility due to poor conditioning.
Any benefit that Hue Jackson could bring would have been nullified by Jamarcus’ inability to learn offensive systems.
Clearly, for these reasons, the Raiders are expected to improve. Otherwise Jamarcus would still be here and Al would be paying him to throw instead of plead not guilty.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
# JLofty Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:58 am
So far 32 teams agree with me.
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Delusional, are we? 32 teams have a receiver roster with all receivers being more productive then Terrell Owens? Sure you’re going to stand on that? Sure you’re not going to consider contract negotiations as a likely reason for Terrell not having signed anywhere?
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He’s already on the record for saying he will take less $$ to play for a team like the Pats.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Wanting isn’t the same as needing.
T.O. is an immediate target. No one on the Raiders is an immediate target.
T.O. had more yds than Bey and Murphy combined.
And more importantly, had more yards after catch that Bey, Chaz, JLH and Murphy had COMBINED.
And considering Buffalo’s combined passer rating was 71, only 9 above the Raiders 62, it wasn’t because T.O. had a much better surrounding cast.
Yeah, T.O. has lost a step, and isn’t as dominant as he once was.
However, there will be no shortage of teams needing a WR once the injury bug starts to hit teams, and many teams will wish they had grabbed him when the had the chance.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Clearly, for these reasons, the Raiders are expected to improve.
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Ha ha ha! Expected by who? The same fans who say we’re improved every time this year?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Hairy Bush, he didn’t say the Pats agreed with him. He said 32 teams agree with him. Every team in the league. Every single team in the league, including the Oakland Raiders, can look at their current receiving roster, and say with a straight face that every single receiver on their roster is better than Terrell Owens? Are you guys serious?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
So you cannot refudiate my seven reasons that dumping jamarcus will make winning more likely?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Bo, have you ever said this time of year that the Raiders would be bad? Ever?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# Drexl Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:56 am
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T.O.’s aspirations to be an actor is what makes me think T.O. would love to be as close to L.A. as he can possibly get.
Not a great reason to choose a team, but I think it is what he is looking for.
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The T.O. show isn’t exactly “acting” however it’s pretty much a lock he will go in that direction, considering how comfortable he is in front of a camera, and how he comes across.
That said, ‘being close to LA’??
Any LA aspirations T.O. has is off-season. No team is going to allow a player that distraction. A rare commercial that is shot in one outing, maybe, but other than that, likely won’t happen.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
So you cannot refudiate my seven reasons that dumping jamarcus will make winning more likely?
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Now it’s “more likely”? What’s the matter, don’t have the balls to predict 2 additional wins thanks to Russell’s departure? Someone else did earlier. Don’t blame you for riding the fence, though.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Yes after hiring Kiffin.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
T.O. show isn’t even the T.O. show. It’s the Mo and Kita show, his agent and manager, whatever. They’re the producers of the show. It’s in the credits. They’re using T.O.’s fame to have their own reality show, and that’s all the T.O. reality show is. Last season’s finale was entirely based on Mo’s wedding. T.O. was nothing more than a side character.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Yes after hiring Kiffin.
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You disagreed with Al, then. He said Kiffin was better than Gruden.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Now it’s “more likely”? What’s the matter, don’t have the balls to predict 2 additional wins thanks to Russell’s departure?
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I think we will have 3-4 more addl. wins, but the team has improved in other ways as well. So not all can be credited to offloading the walrus.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
You disagreed with Al, then. He said Kiffin was better than Gruden.
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But I wholeheartedly agreed with Al when he said he made a mistake and Kiffin is a liar.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
You think we’ll have 3 or 4 additional wins because of Russell? Is that a prediction, or a maybe? Because we might go 16-0, too. But I predict we go 5-11. What’s your prediction, Bo? Not what’s likely to happen, not what could, happen, not what might happen, not what’s a possibility, because we all know it’s possible to hit the lotto, I’m talking about taking a stand and predicting what you think the Raiders’ final record will be this year, based upon what you know right now. Let me know when you grow the sack.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
You think we’ll have 3 or 4 additional wins because of Russell?
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No. Can’t you read?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
T.O. show isn’t even the T.O. show. It’s the Mo and Kita show, his agent and manager, whatever. They’re the producers of the show. It’s in the credits. They’re using T.O.’s fame to have their own reality show, and that’s all the T.O. reality show is. Last season’s finale was entirely based on Mo’s wedding. T.O. was nothing more than a side character.
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LMFAO..you are such a sad sack.
Look at you..not only stating you lived for the show, watched every episode, including reporting on the “finale” but you sit AND READ THE CREDITS?
Damn..You know, I’ve always said how sorry you are, having nothing in your life, but had no idea you are this sad.
Dude, that is just pathetic.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I think we will have 3-4 more addl. wins, but… not all can be credited to offloading the walrus.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Al seemed very frustrated when he fired Kiffin, wasn’t in his best state of mind. I’ll go with the Davis who was positive and trying to build a winning team, and that Al Davis said that Kiffin was better than Gruden. Al Davis just thought that Kiffin would be his slave, and that wasn’t the case. Kiffin coached the team the best way he knew how, Al didn’t like it, and that’s why Kiffin’s gone, and why Al has changed his tune.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
You make it sound as if reading a show’s credits is right there with a heroin addiction, Richochet.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Yuengs N Wings says:
July 21, 2010 11:45 AM
If you want to read quality from a columnist in Oakland, make it Jerry McDonald.
Stay away from morons like Poole and Nancy Gay.
This was in pft blog.Keep up the good work Jerry.Word’s spreading about you Jerry your gonna be famous one day.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo, what’s your prediction for the Raiders’ final record this year?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Being better than Gruden is not saying much. Guy was nothing when Al found him, and once he was fired the team really took off. At least Al corrects his mistakes.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo, what’s your prediction for the Raiders’ final record this year?
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I’ll wait until camp is over.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Ed Norton could hang w/ the legends
July 21st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Where do you get the idea that Al “found” Gruden? Found him where?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo, what’s your prediction for the Raiders’ final record this year?
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I’ll wait until camp is over.
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Translation: 5-11. Same as mine.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
MR, would Gannon have won an MVP here if Gruden stayed?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Ed Norton could hang w/ the legends
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So could Josh Brolin. But that’s the thing, they’re kind of obscure next to the pretty boy actors.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 11:20 am
They had Redford facing off against Gandolfini in the Last Castle. Redford wore both hats.
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One of my favorite movies ever… can’t think of two people who have even heard of it…
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Al found Gruden = Al was first to ever offer Gruden a HC job at any level.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
MR, would Gannon have won an MVP here if Gruden stayed?
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Don’t care if Gannon wins MVP or not. We’re not the Oakland Gannons. A Super Bowl is what I want, and what Gruden wanted. And, Gruden got one. Davis had other plans.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Ed Norton could hang w/ the legends.
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Word. Val Kilmer too, before he went all Kirstie Alley.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Come on now Try Cheating are you the racist right winger who got in a shootout with police below or is it some other warped hypocrite racist right winger in here:
“Williams was hospitalized after the shooting with gunshot wounds that were not life-threatening, and was arraigned Tuesday in Oakland on multiple felonies, including several counts of attempted murder. Investigators said he’d been drunk and on his way to San Francisco to kill liberal activists at the American Civil Liberties Union and the Tides Foundation when he was pulled over.
In his neighborhood — a rural mountain community speckled with sheep farms, horse paddocks and log cabins — neither Williams nor his mother were known to many. One next-door neighbor said she hadn’t even realized there was a house tucked back into the property where Williams lived with his mother.
Another neighbor, 55-year-old Thomas Funk, said he had seen Williams drive by a few times but had never heard him speak. Williams didn’t stay quiet, though, after the 2008 election of President Barack Obama.
“He was (angry) about the new president,” Funk said. “He said the world’s going to hell in a handbag because we have a black president and he didn’t think black people deserve to be president. He was just bitter.”
Williams screamed in anger so loudly, using curse words and racial epithets, that Funk’s wife had to close the door to keep her son from hearing, Funk said.
His apparent racism, combined with comments his mother has made to the media that she owned the guns he took from her because she believes a “revolution” is near, may paint a picture suggesting Williams was part of a white supremacy group and could have been acting on their behalf Saturday, but local sheriff’s deputies said they’ve seen nothing to suggest he was connected to such a group. Authorities in Oakland believe he acted alone.”
July 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
MR, would Gannon have won an MVP here if Gruden stayed?
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Don’t care if Gannon wins MVP or not. We’re not the Oakland Gannons.
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Translation = not a chance in hell.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Al found Gruden = Al was first to ever offer Gruden a HC job at any level.
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That’s an appropriate use for the term “found”? I assumed found meant that nobody had heard of Gruden before Davis hired him. Surely you weren’t insinuating that, were you?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Trestman > Gruden
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Al found Gruden = Al was first to ever offer Gruden a HC job at any level.
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That’s an appropriate use for the term “found”?
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Translation = yes Al discovered Gruden
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Hairy Bush, he didn’t say the Pats agreed with him. He said 32 teams agree with him. Every team in the league. Every single team in the league, including the Oakland Raiders, can look at their current receiving roster, and say with a straight face that every single receiver on their roster is better than Terrell Owens? Are you guys serious?
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your missing the point
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
MR, would Gannon have won an MVP here if Gruden stayed?
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Don’t care if Gannon wins MVP or not. We’re not the Oakland Gannons.
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Translation = not a chance in hell.
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I agree. But is a team’s goal to win an MVP for their quarterback, or to win a Super Bowl? Because that’s what Gruden did the same year Gannon won his MVP.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Come on now Try Cheating are you the racist right winger who got in a shootout with police below or is it some other warped hypocrite racist right winger in here:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/bay-area-news/ci_15560859
“Williams was hospitalized after the shooting with gunshot wounds that were not life-threatening, and was arraigned Tuesday in Oakland on multiple felonies, including several counts of attempted murder. Investigators said he’d been drunk and on his way to San Francisco to kill liberal activists at the American Civil Liberties Union and the Tides Foundation when he was pulled over.
In his neighborhood — a rural mountain community speckled with sheep farms, horse paddocks and log cabins — neither Williams nor his mother were known to many. One next-door neighbor said she hadn’t even realized there was a house tucked back into the property where Williams lived with his mother.
Another neighbor, 55-year-old Thomas Funk, said he had seen Williams drive by a few times but had never heard him speak. Williams didn’t stay quiet, though, after the 2008 election of President Barack Obama.
“He was (angry) about the new president,” Funk said. “He said the world’s going to hell in a handbag because we have a black president and he didn’t think black people deserve to be president. He was just bitter.”
Williams screamed in anger so loudly, using curse words and racial epithets, that Funk’s wife had to close the door to keep her son from hearing, Funk said.
His apparent racism, combined with comments his mother has made to the media that she owned the guns he took from her because she believes a “revolution” is near, may paint a picture suggesting Williams was part of a white supremacy group and could have been acting on their behalf Saturday, but local sheriff’s deputies said they’ve seen nothing to suggest he was connected to such a group. Authorities in Oakland believe he acted alone.”
July 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Hairy Bush, he didn’t say the Pats agreed with him. He said 32 teams agree with him. Every team in the league. Every single team in the league, including the Oakland Raiders, can look at their current receiving roster, and say with a straight face that every single receiver on their roster is better than Terrell Owens? Are you guys serious?
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your missing the point
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No, YOU are.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Owens is unemployed because the NFL is a business. Show biz maybe but a biz nonetheless.
So currently TO’s price to reward/risk ratio is high. If TO drops his price the ratio changes maybe some one picks him up.
The other factor is supply and demand. Currently the supply for WRs is high enough to make teams not feel too good about TO’s price vs risk/reward. If someone gets hurt and that team doesn’t have the depth to overcome, he gets a job and yet another chance to prove me correct:
He is done. Can’t get open by himself, and drops a lot of passes. TD passes even.
I am a lot of things but delusional is certainly not one of them…
July 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
You make it sound as if reading a show’s credits is right there with a heroin addiction, Richochet.
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I don’t know ANYONE who sits and actually STUDIES A SHOWS CREDITS. You admitted you have.
Point is…why?
It’s because, to you, you live for sitting and living on this blog, while watching tv, while eating chips.
You really need a life.
Seriously.
Maybe a dog to take for a walk. Go to the library and ask about “books, what are books?”
Something/anything besides watching your life waste away as it is now.
It’s like you’ve given up.
I suspect, quite honestly, it’s because you’re likely just too big and fat to do what I suggested. There really is no other explanation why someone spends 16 hours a day, every single day, sitting down, begging for attention on a blog.
Sad..in every way.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Al found Gruden = Al was first to ever offer Gruden a HC job at any level.
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That’s an appropriate use for the term “found”?
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Translation = yes Al discovered Gruden
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DISCOVERED GRUDEN HOW YOU FRICKING IMBECILE?
GRUDEN WAS A WELL KNOWN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE LEAGUE, WHO’D BEEN CONSIDERED FOR HEAD COACHING JOBS AS MUCH AS 2 YEARS BEFORE HE CAME TO OAKLAND. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF “FOUND” OR “DISCOVER” IS?
July 21st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I would bet my next months salary that TO is on someones starting roster week 1.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Yeh, Richochet, watching a show’s credits is that bad. There’s heroin addiction, crack cocaine, then there’s watching the credits of a t.v. show. It’s right there with them. Sharp logic, bud.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Richochet Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
It’s because, to you, you live for sitting and living on this blog, while watching tv, while eating chips.
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Funny, I was about to say the same to you.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis discovered Tom Cable.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Richochet, you’re here as much as anyone. What’s your deal? What job lets you spend this much time on a blog? You say you run a business, really? What business affords you this much free time? If anyone fits the profile of a fat loser sitting at his mom’s house, it’s you. Because lying about your career and owning a business, etc., is one of the personality traits of people like that.
July 21st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
# HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Hairy Bush, he didn’t say the Pats agreed with him. He said 32 teams agree with him. Every team in the league. Every single team in the league, including the Oakland Raiders, can look at their current receiving roster, and say with a straight face that every single receiver on their roster is better than Terrell Owens? Are you guys serious?
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your missing the point
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No, YOU are.
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Never once did I say he wasn’t a better reciever than a lot of guys out there amongst the 32 teams. I know you don’t like the chemisty answer, but it is a reality. If teams really wanted him they would make it happen regardless of his salary demands. If it wasn’t for injury he probaly would not sniff the NFL ever again. My point about the Pats was that he said he would take less $$ and they didn’t care. We both know he’s better than Torry Holt, yet T.O. is the one unemployed. I think the Pats are a perfect example because thet don’t mind picking up people like say Corey Dillon or Randy Moss. I will also say that we are only hearing about T.O. offering to take less $$ to sign with the Pats, when in fact it could be a multitude of teams that he would do that for, and it just hasn’t been “leaked” to the public. Truth be told, you and I both do not know what goes on behind the scenes hence our speculation.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The person I was responding to, forget who, didn’t say anything about Chemistry. He downplayed T.O.’s actual playing skills. So if you’re going to do this, just jump into an argument and take sides, at least know what the heck you’re talking about, moron. We’re not talking about his chemestry. This guy, think his name was Lofty, said that T.O. couldn’t play anymore, and said that 32 teams disagree with him. Pay attention dumbass.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Because that’s what Gruden did the same year Gannon won his MVP.
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Wow. He took a great team he did not build and he beat a team he knew intimately.
Why didn’t Gruden come close again if he was such a good coach?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis discovered Tom Cable.
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Now you get it! Al Davis also discovered Mike Shanahan and Ron Wolf.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Correction, he said 32 teams “agree” with him, not disagree. Lofty said that T.O. can’t play anymore, even giving examples, said that that’s how he would hurt the Raiders, and said that 32 teams “agree with” him, in those exact words. I hate idiots like you who just jump into arguments trying to get someone’s back when you don’t even have the attention span to see what point they made in the first place. Go play video games. This is above your intellect, obviously.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
He still won a SB, Bo. You said that Gannon wouldn’t have won his precious little MVP award if Gruden stayed. I say who cares? It’s about the Super Bowl, and Gruden got. You can quibble all you want to as to how he got it, bottom line is, Gruden HAS won a Super Bowl in the past 2 decades, Al Davis hasn’t.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Hey MR,
Question – and please lay off the ALL CAPS this time – did anyone anywhere ever offer Jon Gruden a head coaching position before Al Davis? For Pee Wee? High School? College?
I say that qualifies as “discover”. Perhaps another owner/GM would have given Gruden a HC job eventually, but as is usually the case Al was first.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Shannahan was well known by the media and around the league when Al hired him. Agreed on Al finding Ron Wolf. And glad he did. It’s the only reason we have our glory years. Al to this day hasn’t won a SB without Wolf. But Wolf’s won one without Al.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Unfortunately, Al also discovered Lance Kiffin.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
So the reason the Raiders had their glory years was Al Davis’ brilliant discoveries? I agree MR. Well said.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The person I was responding to, forget who, didn’t say anything about Chemistry. He downplayed T.O.’s actual playing skills. So if you’re going to do this, just jump into an argument and take sides, at least know what the heck you’re talking about, moron. We’re not talking about his chemestry. This guy, think his name was Lofty, said that T.O. couldn’t play anymore, and said that 32 teams disagree with him. Pay attention dumbass.
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The arguement was based on T.O. not finding an NFL team. I am simply bringing up points that would explain as to why he is unemployed. Personally for me it is not about taking sides. I don’t think that makes me a dumbass or a moron. I try not to get so defensive when having what should be an entertaing football conversation. Perhaps you should consider lightening up a little and think before you insult people.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Cya. Go Raiders. I predict between 5 and 12 victories. Will narrow down after camp.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I guarantee we will win between 0-16 games this year…
July 21st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Look, idiot:
dis·cov·er
/dɪˈskʌvər/ Show Spelled[dih-skuhv-er] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.
to see, get knowledge of, learn of, find, or find out; gain sight or knowledge of (something previously unseen or unknown): to discover America; to discover electricity.
2.
to notice or realize: I discovered I didn’t have my credit card with me when I went to pay my bill.
3.
Archaic . to make known; reveal; disclose.
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You either can’t read, didn’t pass the 1st grade, or you’re just flat out making up your own definition of the word discover. Al Davis didn’t discover Jon Gruden. There is the definition of the word, right above you. There was no discovery. Gruden was already known, and had been publicly considered for head coaching jobs by teams other than the Raiders before he worked here. Give up.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Gruden was already known, and had been publicly considered for head coaching jobs by teams other than the Raiders before he worked here.
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what teams?
link? source?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Dumbass, you took a side, and failed, because you weren’t even on the topic. Nobody was talking about T.O.’s charisma. Lofty, or whatever his name is, said that T.O. couldn’t play anymore, gave examples and everything, and said that 32 teams agree with him. That’s what he said. Then comes you, as if you’re the superman of moronic Raider blogs on a crusade to back up every idiot in here who paints themselves into a corner, to try and change the argument to being about T.O.’s charisma. That’s NOT what it’s about. Frankly, I agree with you about his charisma. Of course that’s the main reason nobody wants him. But Lofty didn’t say that. He demeaned T.O.’s football skills, said that that’s the reason he’s not on a team, including the Raiders, and I called him on how dumb that was. Now you’re trying to convince me he never said that when it’s right up there for everyone to see, you f’n idiot. Give up!
July 21st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Okay, I have two words (?) for the Raider Nation, in regard to Terrell Owens:
T-No!!!!!
July 21st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Silver and Black Sleepers pt. 7
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
July 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
BTW, fuhk T.O.
We’ve worked hard and lost millions ditching attitudes. Why on earth would we take the biggest cancer to hit the game in decades?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
In 1990, Gruden’s father Jim set up an interview with Mike Holmgren, who was the offensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers. Gruden impressed Holmgren with his knowledge of the game for such a young man. Holmgren hired Gruden as one of the first quality control coaches in the NFL.
He quickly ascended through the ranks of NFL coaching by learning the famous West Coast offense pioneered by longtime NFL coach Bill Walsh. When Holmgren left the 49ers to become head coach of the Green Bay Packers in 1992, he took the promising young Gruden with him to become the team’s wide receivers coach. After three seasons in Green Bay, Gruden moved on to become the offensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles under former Packers assistant coach Ray Rhodes. Gruden then was chosen by the owner and general manager of the Oakland Raiders, Al Davis, to be the Raiders’ new head coach for the 1998 season.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
So Rockstar – what you’re saying is:
Jon Gruden’s father discovered Jon Gruden, right?
(sounds about right)
July 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Dumbass, you took a side, and failed, because you weren’t even on the topic. Nobody was talking about T.O.’s charisma. Lofty, or whatever his name is, said that T.O. couldn’t play anymore, gave examples and everything, and said that 32 teams agree with him. That’s what he said. Then comes you, as if you’re the superman of moronic Raider blogs on a crusade to back up every idiot in here who paints themselves into a corner, to try and change the argument to being about T.O.’s charisma. That’s NOT what it’s about. Frankly, I agree with you about his charisma. Of course that’s the main reason nobody wants him. But Lofty didn’t say that. He demeaned T.O.’s football skills, said that that’s the reason he’s not on a team, including the Raiders, and I called him on how dumb that was. Now you’re trying to convince me he never said that when it’s right up there for everyone to see, you f’n idiot. Give up!
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Look, your perception is I was trying to “rescue” someone who had painted themself into the corner with a debate you guys were having. The reality is I was just looking to talk some football and chime in with my 2cents regarding T.O.. Some of you may agree with my points and some may not. Perhaps you take this blog a little to serious and think you are the king. I am an intelligemt guy who likes talking Raiders football. I may have typos and improper blog etiquite butting into conversations, that doesn’t change the fact that I bring valid points to a conversation. Why does it have to be more than that?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
the Reid/McNabb didn’t start in Philly until 1999.
Gruden was OC there from 95-97 under HC Ray Rhodes (a defensive minded coach). his QB’s were Rodney Peete & Ty Detmer
Philly was hardly a powerhouse with Gruden running the offense
July 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
So Gruden had all of that time with the 49ers, who were one of the best teams in football then and were considered the gold standard of the league, then was offensive coordinator for the Eagles, mind you, OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, not some running backs coach or whistle blower, but offensive freakin coordinator, a position that actually gets camera time, yet Al Davis still “discovered” him? It’s obvious you guys are either too dumb to know what discover means, or you’re attempting to make up your own definition of it, more of that delusional Al Davis discovered this, Al Davis discovered that nonsense. Obviously, the San Fransisco 49ers “discovered” Jon Gruden, in every sense of the word, not the Raiders. That’s probably why Al got rid of him.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
inonewordraider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Ed Norton could hang w/ the legends
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Pffft! What?!!
Norton is a scenery chewing hack.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
After three unsuccessful seasons under White and his successor, Joe Bugel, Davis selected a new head coach from outside the Raiders organization for only the second time when he hired Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Jon Gruden, who previously worked for the 49ers and Packers under head coach Mike Holmgren.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
146. Spurious logic…as usual
July 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Hairy Bush, go get shaved.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Rocktard, did I say Phily was a power house when Gruden was there?
No.
This is what your morons do. Twist arguments when you’re losing.
Nobody said that Phily was a powerhouse when Gruden was there.
Nobody was talking up Gruden’s ability,.
The topic is here is whether or not Al Davis DISCOVERED Jon Gruden.
And, he DIDN’T.
And, your stupid article PROVES IT!
July 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Obviously, the San Fransisco 49ers “discovered” Jon Gruden, in every sense of the word, not the Raiders. That’s probably why Al got rid of him.
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2 years as a quality control coach for the 49ers = discovered?
LOL
I’m so glad that the Raiders discovered Sanjay Lal!
promoted from quality control coach to WR coach. If the Raider do well next year maybe he’ll become somebody’s OC? woot woot
July 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Hairy Bush, go get shaved.
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I’m proud of you, I knew you could do it!
Doesn’t it feel better to take it down a notch?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Hairy Bush, go get shaved.
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BTW my screen name is a reference to Mike Bush’s receiting hair line
July 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Packers WR Coach for 3 years = discovered?
Can anybody tell me who the Saints WR Coach is, without looking it up ???
July 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
What is your definition of discovered, Rocktard? I have the real one posted above. Want me to post it again? To discover means to notice someone before anyone else does, and the 49ers did in fact notice Jon Gruden before any other NFL team did. We’re not talking about the impact Gruden had in San Francisco, we’re talking about which NFL team DISCOVERED Jon Gruden, and it wasn’t the Raiders, nor Al Davis. But if Al’s retarded supporters want to completely alter the definition of the word discover and insist he did, be my guest. It’s not the first time you guys planted your flat on something completely false. It’s a way of life for die hard Raider fans.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Your screen name is a reference to your brain matter, hairy bush.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Can anybody tell me who the Saints WR Coach is, without looking it up?
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Curtis Johnson, been there 4 years.
you might ask yourself, “Who ???”
Gruden wasn’t DISCOVERED around the league by the 49ers or Packers (Holmgren connections) ya dip
July 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Every day you guys find a new way to prove that Raider fans are the dumbest sports fans on the planet. Today you’re doing it with the discovery of Jon Gruden argument. The more you guys try to save your failed argument, that’s been thoroughly debunked, sadly by dictionary.com, the dumber you look. But why should I stop it?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
The Raiders could say that Al Davis discovered modern medicine and you imbeciles would believe it.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
And Holmgren worked for what team?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
MR, I’ll ask again …
what teams?
link? source?
LOL at “Rocktard”
resorting to insults = loss
if you had the answers, you would have posted them already. instead you’re trying to challenge people on the definition of a word (nice distraction btw)
July 21st, 2010 at 1:50 pm
I really can’t believe you guys are this dumb. I’ve never seen a group of people so determined to salvage a lost argument when painted into a corner, and with egg on their face. You guys are a case study.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
MR: see post #137
i’m still waiting for a response
July 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
rocktard isn’t an insult. It’s an accurate description of your intellect. You think Al Davis discovered Jon Gruden, even after the definition of the word discover was posted here, and even after you yourself posted an article proving that Al Davis certainly did not discover him. Your article proved that if any NFL team discovered Jon Gruden, it was the 49ers. Mike Holmgren worked for the 49ers. As a matter of fact, so did Gruden’s dad, didn’t he? Fugg you are dumb.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Every day you guys find a new way to prove that Raider fans are the dumbest sports fans on the planet. Today you’re doing it with the discovery of Jon Gruden argument. The more you guys try to save your failed argument, that’s been thoroughly debunked, sadly by dictionary.com, the dumber you look. But why should I stop it?
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They may not have “discovered” him in the dictionary sense, but they definetley took a chance on him by making him one of the youngest head coaches of all time.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
rocktard isn’t an insult. It’s an accurate description of your intellect.
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“rocktard” isn’t a word …
look it up on your favorite site dictionary.com
July 21st, 2010 at 1:54 pm
HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Every day you guys find a new way to prove that Raider fans are the dumbest sports fans on the planet. Today you’re doing it with the discovery of Jon Gruden argument. The more you guys try to save your failed argument, that’s been thoroughly debunked, sadly by dictionary.com, the dumber you look. But why should I stop it?
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They may not have “discovered” him in the dictionary sense
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I’M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ BEYOND THAT. I CAN’T DO IT ANYMORE. IT’S LIKE LAUGHING A KID WHO’S EATING PASTE. I JUST CANT DO IT. “IN THE DICTIONARY SENSE”. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS IF THE DICTIONARY ISN’T AN ACCURATE SOURCE. THE RAIDERS PR COMES BEFORE THE F’N DICTIONARY IN THESE PEOPLES’ MINDS. I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:56 pm
When are you moronic, retarded douchbags going to give up and admit that the 49ers discovered Gruden?
July 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Gruden was already known, and had been publicly considered for head coaching jobs by teams other than the Raiders before he worked here.
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MR: what teams?
link? source?
still waiting …
July 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:54 pm
HairyBush Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Every day you guys find a new way to prove that Raider fans are the dumbest sports fans on the planet. Today you’re doing it with the discovery of Jon Gruden argument. The more you guys try to save your failed argument, that’s been thoroughly debunked, sadly by dictionary.com, the dumber you look. But why should I stop it?
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They may not have “discovered” him in the dictionary sense
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I’M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ BEYOND THAT. I CAN’T DO IT ANYMORE. IT’S LIKE LAUGHING A KID WHO’S EATING PASTE. I JUST CANT DO IT. “IN THE DICTIONARY SENSE”. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS IF THE DICTIONARY ISN’T AN ACCURATE SOURCE. THE RAIDERS PR COMES BEFORE THE F’N DICTIONARY IN THESE PEOPLES’ MINDS. I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
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Why don’t you post my whole comment? Because it makes sense, that’s why.
July 21st, 2010 at 1:59 pm
The idea that the Raiders discovered Jon Gruden is a low point for Raider fans talking up Al Davis. Remember when you guys used to be able to point to real things, like victories? Players? Super Bowl wins? Now it’s half baked theories like the Raiders discovering Gruden, despite the mountains of evidence that Gruden was well known before ever stepping foot in Oakland. A true low point in the Raider Nation’s campaign for Al Davis’s legacy. It’s now down to lies and fabrications. Just sad. You guys are literally making stuff up to salvage Al’s diminishing legacy.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:00 pm
If Monte thinks something, chances are pretty good the Raiders are thinking the opposite. The two sides have a special relationship that way.
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Word Jerry. Tell it!!!
Seems like even our beloved Jerry McD has grown wearly of Poole’s unreasonable hatred of all things Silver and Black especially ole Al.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
MR: be a man and admit that you were wrong
you have no proof to that statement re: Gruden i’ve brought up many times
July 21st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
My mom always said never argue with an idiot, you will never win.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Then Jerry goes on to say that DHB has improved, while admitting in practically the same breath that DHB is yet to prove himself in live action. Jerry’s not on his A game today. He’s riding the fence. Trying to please you guys by taking a shot at Poole, while remaining credible. Trying to appease Raider fans taxes your credibility by default. The smart money is in pissing them off, because in most cases you’re telling the truth and reporting the facts.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
I think Quentin Groves is going to be a gamble. Hope we keep Howard as insurance…
July 21st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
176. Poole’s hacktacular. Always has been, always will…
Can’t wait for the Raiders to shut foole’s like him up once we start winning…
July 21st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
you guys have a good night-later
July 21st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
later Hairy
July 21st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
The way the Raiders will be much improved without Russell is fairly straightforward to me: I just think of how many times I said aloud, “If he could just complete a pass or two” or “If we just had an average QB we’d win this game.” The Raiders proved they can beat the best teams, so it’s all about some consistency now—-something never remotely possible with the Chinchilla-fur-coat-wearing-belly-full-of-drank QB at the helm.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:36 pm
The Davis Machine: A Cancer Cure?
Inventor Tells 60 Minutes He Hopes To Live Long Enough To See Machine Cure Humans
The Davis Machine
Lesley Stahl meets a man who invented a machine that may kill cancer cells using radio waves. Cancer Machine Shows Promise
Al Davis, invented a machine that uses radio waves to kill cancer cells. Harry Smith speaks with Davis and Dr. Steven Curley, who is testing the device.
What if we told you that a guy with no background in science or medicine – has come up with what may be one of the most promising breakthroughs in cancer research in years?
Well it’s true, and if you think it sounds improbable, consider this: he did it with his wife’s pie pans and hot dogs.
His name is Al Davis, and as correspondent Lesley Stahl first reported last April, he’s a businessman and Football Executive who built a radio wave machine that has cancer researchers so enthusiastic about its potential they’re pouring money and effort into testing it out.
Here’s the important part: if clinical trials pan out – and there’s still a long way to go – the Davis machine will zap cancer cells all through your body without the need for drugs or surgery and without side effects. None at all. At least that’s the idea.
It was during one of those sleepless nights that the light bulb went off. When he was young, Davis was one of those kids who built radios from scratch, so he knew the hidden power of radio waves. he got out of bed, went to the kitchen, and started to build a radio wave machine.
“Started looking in the cupboard and I saw pie pans and I said, ‘These are perfect. I can modify these,’” he recalled.
His wife woke up that night to a lot of banging and clamoring. “I was concerned truthfully that he had lost it,” she told Stahl.
That’s what 60 Minutes wanted to know, so Stahl went to his garage laboratory to find out.
Here’s how it works: one box sends radio waves over to the other, creating enough energy to activate gas in a fluorescent light. Davis put his hand in the field to demonstrate that radio waves are harmless to humans.
“So right from the beginning you’re trying to show that radio waves could activate gas and not harm the human-anything else,” Stahl remarked. “‘Cause you’re looking for some kind of a treatment with no side effects, that’s what’s in your head.” That and i think Jon Gruden would make a good head coach,most people work on one discovery at a time!!!
July 21st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
DISCOVERED GRUDEN HOW YOU FRICKING IMBECILE?
GRUDEN WAS A WELL KNOWN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE LEAGUE, WHO’D BEEN CONSIDERED FOR HEAD COACHING JOBS AS MUCH AS 2 YEARS BEFORE HE CAME TO OAKLAND. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF “FOUND” OR “DISCOVER” IS?
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 1:54 pm
I’M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ BEYOND THAT. I CAN’T DO IT ANYMORE. IT’S LIKE LAUGHING A KID WHO’S EATING PASTE. I JUST CANT DO IT. “IN THE DICTIONARY SENSE”. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS IF THE DICTIONARY ISN’T AN ACCURATE SOURCE. THE RAIDERS PR COMES BEFORE THE F’N DICTIONARY IN THESE PEOPLES’ MINDS. I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
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LOL UMad?
July 21st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
So, Mike Pouncey in the second round in 2011?
July 21st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
While it is certainly true that at one point TO was better than any WR on our roster-and possibly better than anyone on our roster will ever be-I don’t know if that is true at the present time.He is without a doubt on the downside and one or more of the youngsters could make huge leaps this year.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
I guess I am mad. Stupidity makes me angry. I think it’s noble. Stupidity should make people angry. Could be all that saves this country. If people weren’t more angry at stupid people in 2004 Bush might have not had a second term. And seeing people in here say things like Al Davis “discovered” Jon Gruden, then defying the mother flipping dictionary’s definition of the word “discovery”, does make me angry. I’ll admit that. Stupidity is frustrating to me.
July 21st, 2010 at 2:49 pm
More good stuff from The Onion
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More Americans Concerned Illegal Immigrants Will Take Their Spot On Couch
July 13, 2010 | ISSUE 46•28
LOS ANGELES—According to a Los Angeles Times survey published Tuesday, an increasing number of Americans believe undocumented immigrants pose a threat to their favored spot on the couch, with many expressing concern that illegal aliens are “actively plotting” to take their seat as early as the next time they get up to go to the kitchen or bathroom. “I’ve been sitting on this part of the couch for 40 years, and I’ll be damned if some foreigner thinks he can sit down right here where my father sat, and my grand≠father before him,” survey respondent Earl Lockwood of Tulsa, OK said. “I earned this spot.” The poll also found that a majority of Americans support the recently enacted Arizona law requiring immigrants to present proper identification before calling dibs on a particular seat.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/more-americans-concerned-illegal-immigrants-will-t,17705/
July 21st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Maybe if you didn’t try to argue with everyone and take things so literally you wouldn’t get so upset about such minimal things.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Jerry,
I love your Monte rip. That guy seems to only be interested in writing sensationalist articles.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Monte Poole sees Oakland making strides and getting better so he wants them to bring in T.O. to destroy that.
Eat a large one Jaunty Foole.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
LONG LIVE AL DAVIS! GO MY BELOVED RAIDERS
July 21st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
lol….
July 21st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Fantasy Football 2010 Rankings: Quarterbacks5
7/19/2010 8:00 AM ET By R.J. White
R.J. White
Fantasy Football Analyst
It’s been over a month since we delivered our first fantasy football 2010 rankings in mid-June, so we’re bringing you a week of updated rankings. These may be your newest cheat sheets, but they won’t be your last,
Mock drafts are currently designating Kevin Kolb as a stud quarterback as soon as this year, and I’ve seen the Philadelphia quarterback picked right after the clearly defined top two tiers of quarterbacks. Our guys are being a little more cautious with Kolb’s ascension to greatness, so if you really want Kolb as part of your fantasy squad, you’ll have to reach a bit higher than we would. There’s nothing wrong with that (after all, you’re the one who has to live with your fantasy team all season), just don’t reach too high and draft Kolb before filling other needs.
1. Aaron Rodgers, Packers
2. Drew Brees, Saints
3. Peyton Manning, Colts
4. Matt Schaub, Texans
5. Tom Brady, Patriots
6. Tony Romo, Cowboys
7. Philip Rivers, Chargers
8. Matt Ryan, Falcons
9. Donovan McNabb, Redskins
10. Brett Favre, Vikings
11. Jay Cutler, Bears
12. Kevin Kolb, Eagles
13. Eli Manning, Giants
14. Joe Flacco, Ravens
15. Matthew Stafford, Lions
16. Chad Henne, Dolphins
17. Carson Palmer, Bengals
18. Alex Smith, 49ers
19. Vince Young, Titans
20. Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers
21. David Garrard, Jaguars
22. Matt Leinart, Cardinals
23. Matt Cassel, Chiefs
24. Mark Sanchez, Jets
25. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks
26. Matt Moore, Panthers
27. Kyle Orton, Broncos
28. Jason Campbell, Raiders
29. Josh Freeman, Buccaneers
30. Sam Bradford, Rams
31. Jake Delhomme, Browns
32. Trent Edwards, Bills
33. Byron Leftwich, Steelers
34. Michael Vick, Eagles
35. Derek Anderson, Cardinals
36. Charlie Whitehurst, Seahawks
37. Dennis Dixon, Steelers
38. Brady Quinn, Broncos
39. Jimmy Claussen, Panthers
40. Tarvaris Jackson, Vikings
July 21st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Richochet, you can post my number of comments all day long. Here’s what you will NEVER post: The name of your business. BECAUSE IT DOESN’T EXIST.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
No MR, was just pointing out that even though we like the blog we also enjoy our annomimity…
I know you understand that as no one would ever want to know who you are… I take that back, the people on this blog that want to server you want to know you…
July 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
BTW, the reason why Richochet is serial posting and reposting and reposting that run down of my comments is to distract you guys that he’s running from my question. I’ve been asking him all afternoon what business he owns, and every time I get that in response. What kind of businessman runs from the opportunity to advertise his company for free? Ones that really don’t own businesses, and like to say they do to show off on blogs.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Thec, you’re on cheerleader status. I’m just addressing Richochet now.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
MR <——- Needs to stick to bashing MR. Davis and the Raiders…
You look like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum….
TELL ME YOUR BUSINESS NOW….lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Thec, you’re a cheerleader on a sideline. No substance in your words. You get no response, other than me reminding you that you’re a cheerleader.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I wouldn’t even know that you owned a business had you not brought it up, Richochet. I learned it from YOU. How could I have brought it up?
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Stop with the textbook Oakdork wandering “I’m so confused” reply, you dumbass.
ALREADY STATED ABOVE..how I replied to someone asking me what I did…also stated that SINCE THEN YOUR INSECURE ASS KEEPS BRINGING IT UP.
Your juvenile replies might work for the idiots you hang out with..but here? You’re just fodder.
Let me dumb it down, because you need it, Fatboy.
Since I answered the first question about what I do, I’VE NEVER BROUGHT UP “I OWN A BUSINESS”.
However..when YOU get slapped down? (same as Oakdorks replies, which I suspect you adopted)..whenever YOU get torched? Where you feel helpless? THAT’S WHEN YOU BRING IT UP, AS YOUR HOPEFUL SAFETY NET..
How’s that working for ya? lol..I mean..do you think everyone views you as less of a loser if you bring up who here works? Or has a business?
Or do you think you just come across as even more pathetic, and needy?
Take your time, Mama’s Boy.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Thec, you’re a cheerleader on a sideline. No substance in your words. You get no response, other than me reminding you that you’re a cheerleader.
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You are a sad little guy…. All the responses above….
If I conducted a poll on who the biggest attention whore on this blog is, who do we think would win that poll?????
July 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Is there a name to your business anywhere in that rant, Richochet? Of course not. Because your business STILL DOESN’T EXIST, of course.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
# Thec07 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Richochet, Richochet, he’s our man. If he can’t do it, no one can. Whoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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Wow, dude. You must have gotten beat up a lot as a kid.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
TELL ME YOUR BUSINESS…lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I ran my own biz for two years and would never have publicly advertised it. It did cost me 14 months anyway.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Sorry, meant to say, can’t make this carp up!
July 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
In my mel gibson voice…TELL ME YOUR BUSINESS….
July 21st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
# Thec07 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Richochet, Richochet, he’s our man. If he can’t do it, no one can. Whoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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Wow, dude. You must have gotten beat up a lot as a kid.
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Mr, the blogs own punching bag, is now the blog tough guy….lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
BTW, the reason why Richochet is serial posting and reposting and reposting that run down of my comments is to distract you guys that he’s running from my question. I’ve been asking him all afternoon what business he owns, and every time I get that in response
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Hmm…I suspect I know the reasoning here behind your actions..
You’re retarded, aren’t you?
Seriously..are you?
I’ll state it AGAIN, retard…NO ONE POSTS THEIR PERSONAL INFO ONLINE…see…YOU LIED.
you STATED THAT LOTS OF POSTERS HERE HAVE DONE JUST THAT..TO “GET BUSINESS”..well…show us.
I want to see those, and then I’ll gladly show ya..
Get to it, mama’s boy…the clock is ticking.
OR, OF COURSE, YOU CAN JUST STATE NOW YOU’RE A LYING POS.
You’re an idiot, dude. Everyone calls you one. Why do you think that is? Everyone thinks you’re a coward. Why do you think that is? Everyone knows you’re..a little “off”..why is that?
And you wonder why people don’t give out info to retards?
Really??
You need that explained?
That alone proves my point..you’re losing it, dude.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
MR, was today your first day getting high???
July 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
I have seen you throw hissy fits, but wow this is monumental and funny….
July 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
In my mel gibson voice…TELL ME YOUR BUSINESS….
……………………..that sounded exactly like mel gibson.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Richochet, have you given the name of your business yet? That’s all I’m looking for out of you. There’s nothing else you have to say that I’m concerned about right now. I didn’t see any business name in that rant. And of course, we know why you won’t say what business you own. There is no business you own.
This is all I know about you so far, Richochet.
You say you own a business, yet refuse to prove it in any way. Which means you don’t own one. This also reveals you’re the type of person who lies about his career to make himself seem better. You also have a hyperlink to Natalie Gulbis in your link. What am I supposed to think of you, Richochet? Do you want me to believe you’re a business man who plays a few rounds with Natalie every now and then? Or should I believe what’s far more likely to be true…that you’re lying about owning a business, and Natalie Gulbis’s website is basically you’re favorite porn link? It’s obviously the latter, Richochet.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Kool Kell posted his info and that would be one tough act to follow. Still laughing now just thinking about it.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Tell us about your swing shift job, MR.
Swing shift is either from 11 am to 8 Pm or usually from 3 PM to midnight or so.
Curious how you can work “swing shift” IF YOU’RE HERE EVERY DAY, DURING THOSE HOURS??
I mean..you aren’t..uh…”lying” are you?
I mean..you wouldn’t do that, right, Random..
Oh..I mean MR?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
In my mel gibson voice…TELL ME YOUR BUSINESS….
……………………..that sounded exactly like mel gibson.
i do arnold schwarzenegger= i drive a t2000 with twin turbos……hayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
July 21st, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Richochet, I scanned through that comment, still didn’t see a name to a business. So tell me, why do you feel the need to lie about owning a business, and what’s with the link to Natalie Gulbis’s website? What are you trying to project with that? We can all find Natalie’s site on our own, Richochet. We didn’t need you to announce to us that she has a website. Every celebrity and pro athlete does. Do you have that hyperlinked in your screenname to give the impression that you actually know her, Richochet? Or that maybe you date her caliber of women? Are you serious, Richochet?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
# Raider E Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Kool Kell posted his info and that would be one tough act to follow. Still laughing now just thinking about it.
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lol…wrong..he posted someone’s info..not mine.
He figured a phone call that dropped was automatically me, looked at callers ID and said “a HA..I think that’s him”
Actually pretty funny if he really did go out to someone’s house, but I doubt that.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Fat Kidd, let me know when Thec says anything he hasn’t said already. He’s like a fly at this point. I’m just waiting for the right time to swat him.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:24 pm
One way Kell could figure out that it wasn’t you who called him, Richochet, is if it was a business name in the caller ID. Because you don’t own a business.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Im talking about his real estate stuff
July 21st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Fat Kidd, let me know when Thec says anything he hasn’t said already. He’s like a fly at this point. I’m just waiting for the right time to swat him.
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hahahahaha, cheerleading huh, right….lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Fat Kidd oh help me please…lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Fat Kid keep an eye on thec for me….lol
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Thec ,you’re like a cheerleader getting mowed over by a half back hitting her at full speed, and I’m the half back. That’s basically the best analogy I can give to our respective roles on this blog.
No…better yet, Richochet is the half back running into you and knocking you over, and I’m the safety who knocked Richochet into the sideline.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Freddie B. grades out as #5 on the NFLN “Top Ten Hands of Alltime”
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
MR <——- Every time he types people laugh….
July 21st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Understand what that means, thec? It means I’m two levels above you. But tell us about that business you own. lol.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Richochet, I scanned through that comment, still didn’t see a name to a business.
RICHOCHET: Geez..you are touched, aren’t you? Said ONLY A FOOL WOULD POST PERSONAL INFO..I’m not a fool. YOU are. You’re also an idiot for asking the same question a dozen times. “slow” people do that.
Seriously..that’s not smack..’slow’ people can’t grasp things. You obviously fit the category.
Oh..and honestly?
do you REALLY think that someone/ANYONE is now going to post their personal info..because you whine about it?
Really? lol…you REALLY think that?
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So tell me, why do you feel the need to lie about owning a business, and what’s with the link to Natalie Gulbis’s website?
She’s hot
I know..I know…”women” just seem so “icky” to you, don’t they?
Let me guess?? What’s yours linked to? Guys working out?
Cousins doing cousins?
Oh…no…I know…AL DAVIS??
Why do I just know it’s one of the above?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Thec ,you’re like a cheerleader getting mowed over by a half back hitting her at full speed, and I’m the half back. That’s basically the best analogy I can give to our respective roles on this blog.
No…better yet, Richochet is the half back running into you and knocking you over, and I’m the safety who knocked Richochet into the sideline.
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Not once did I call Rich… You on the other hand summoned Fat Kid to watch me…. lol doesnt get any better little guy….
July 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
It can’t be Richochet who called Kell, because I think Kell said it was a business name. That automatically rules out Richochet. He doesn’t own his own business.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Understand what that means, thec? It means I’m two levels above you. But tell us about that business you own. lol.
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I dont need a lot of word for you MR, you are too simple…lol… anyone who reads these post will know that…
July 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Raider E Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Freddie B. grades out as #5 on the NFLN “Top Ten Hands of Alltime”
hard too say he wore stikum but todays recievers wear gloves.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
29-83
July 21st, 2010 at 4:35 pm
The show covered the stikum angle and it seems all agreed it was legal, so why not?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Kool Kell? Oh sh**! I was wondering what happened to you.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:39 pm
What’s wrong with Kell mentioning the record? Cable should have that thing up in the locker room every day, to remind the players just how much work they have to do. The Raiders act as if that record is reversed. A dysfunctional organization with a delusional mind set. Gannon talked about that.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Al Davis and Christopher Columbus have a lot in common
July 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Al Davis and Christopher Columbus have a lot in common
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They shared the same set of false teeth?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers traded two first-round draft picks, two second-rounders and $8 million to the Oakland Raiders in February 2002 to pry Al Davis coaching find Jon Gruden away.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Al discovered Gruden but didnt really discover Gruden and Chris did something similar.
July 21st, 2010 at 4:50 pm
MR, wouldn’t the best representation of the Jamarcus debate be the Raiders record the next 3 years, after he is gone.
Or even the Raiders were 2-2 in games when he stayed on the sidelines last year, and 3-9 when he was involved?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Al Davis = American hero
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Shaun Rogers helps catch DUI driver
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 21, 2010 6:41 PM ET
This time, Shaun Rogers was on the right side of the law.
Fox 8 News in Cleveland reports the Browns defensive tackle called 911 on Thursday to report an erratic driver he saw on the road. Rogers stayed on the line and followed the car, which swerved off the road multiple times. Eventually it stopped in the middle of a busy highway with part of the car sticking out into traffic.
“Mr. Rogers positioned himself behind that vehicle and turned his emergency flashers on to notify other drivers that there was an emergency on the road, and I don’t know what would’ve happened had he not done that,” Middleburg Heights Police Chief John Maddox said.
Ultimately, 20-year-old John Nykiel was charged with a DUI and operating an unsafe vehicle.
“I thought his actions were above and beyond and I wanted to express to him as chief of police how much we appreciate what he did that night he helped keep Middleburg Heights safe,” Maddox said.
Nice work, Shaun. Who says we never print positive stories?
July 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
……………………..your making me hungry
July 21st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Was it Eric the Red or his son Leif Ericson that first docked on the New World?
July 21st, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Al Davis great great great great grandfather Warren Allen Davis Sr landed on the shore of oakland ca. in 1411 and discovered the new world and a future football coach.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
all i know is,
i WILL be the first cat on the streets with an authentic Nmandi Asomugha Legacy WHite jersey!!
he is “Mr. Raider” all day.
Any one with ANY doubt on this man should quit on sports altogether .. if he would’ve left the raiders.. i would’ve really question’d my loyalty towards the raiders..
oh yeah, we do not need T.O.. like i said before, we have a potential 3-headed monster WR corps.. and thats not including JLH15.. he’s a possible game-changer himself so… we are definitely set there..
who else loved the pick of B. Campbell 4th Rd.? i was so glad he fell to us! i had him on my board late in the college FB season.. He’s a monster who needs to learn the system.. he’s possibly the next Lincoln Kennedy! lets hope!
July 21st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Jimmy Johnson Signs on With ‘Survivor’23
7/21/2010 12:25 PM ET By Milton Kent
Former NFL coach turned broadcaster Jimmy Johnson is a potential contestant on the next season of the television show “Survivor.”
The Dallas Morning News reported that Johnson, who formerly coached the Cowboys and the Dolphins before heading to FOX as an analyst, will be a contestant on the long-running “Survivor,” as the show is being taped in San Juan del Sur, Nicaragua.
Johnson, 67, reportedly tried out for the show, said to be one of his favorites, two years ago when it was staged in Gabon, but he supposedly failed the physical. Johnson, who would be one of the oldest contestants ever on the show, would supposedly be finished in time to appear on “Fox NFL Sunday” in the fall.
Meanwhile, a caretaker at Johnson’s Florida Keys home was arrested Tuesday following a 5 1/2-hour standoff with local police officers.
Monroe County (Fla.) police charged Robert Twist, Jr., 58, with aggravated assault with a firearm for pointing a gun at two sheriff’s deputies, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Police said they responded to a call that a man was considering suicide in a caretaker’s cottage in a wooded area on the grounds of Johnson’s oceanfront home near Miami. When police arrived, there was no answer and as they entered the cottage, they discovered Twist.
Police said Twist, who lives in the cottage, was inside and pointed a gun at the officers, one of whom tried unsuccessfully to disable the man with a Taser. Another officer fired a shot that missed Twist, who barricaded himself in another part of the cottage while the officers backed away.
The Post reported that Twist repeatedly yelled “Shoot me,” and “Kill me,” as hostage negotiators and a SWAT team arrived on the scene. Eventually, negotiators were able to talk Twist out by late afternoon. No injuries were reported and there was no word on whether Johnson was on the premises, the newspaper reported.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Thats stiil about 400 years after Eric or Leif Fat Kidd.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Who cares about finding the new world, Columbus found the spices to make all the great Italian foods.
For that his holiday is well-deserved.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Who cares if Richo owns a business?
July 21st, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Raider E Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Thats stiil about 400 years after Eric or Leif Fat Kidd.
………………………..i dont know what happened to eric leaf but the chargers let ryan leaf go.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Who cares about finding the new world, Columbus found the spices to make all the great Italian foods.
For that his holiday is well-deserved
……………………….columbus discovered ohio,dah columbus,ohio
July 21st, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I personally miss KoolKell. His passion is lacking on this here Raiders blog.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
No T.O.
No knuckleheads!
July 21st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Get your popcorn ready T.O. coming to oakland..
July 21st, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I know someone in Cal who isnt sleeping very well……..
Lance, whats his name, that kid who coaches USC.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
2009 rec 2009 yds
Louis Murphy 34 521
Chaz Schilens 29 365
JLee Higgins 19 263
D Heyward-Bey 9 124
July 21st, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
July 19th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
And remember what I said before. JR will probably be signed by the Pats, or some other team who will bring him along slowly. Two years, maybe three from now, ProBowl.
That’s a guarantee.
……………………………i heard of the three stooges heres a fourth stooge.
July 21st, 2010 at 5:58 pm
……………………………i heard of the three stooges heres a fourth stooge…………………
Meltdown Raider?
July 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
……………………..your making me hungry
Okay tater peeler, it’s you’re not your. My point proven once more.
July 21st, 2010 at 6:09 pm
kevin mawae > TO. i wouldn’t complain about acquiring TO, but can someone please tell me why we haven’t signed mawae yet? we spent an entire offseason making the d-line better. what about the big uglies on the o-line?
July 21st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Try Cheating Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
……………………..your making me hungry
Okay tater peeler, it’s you’re not your. My point proven once more.
Nie rozumiem Kurwa
…………………………polish
July 21st, 2010 at 6:24 pm
MTraidernation,
Besides the fact he is 39, this is probably why the Raiders and no other team have signed Mawae.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/15/perhaps-the-real-reason-no-one-wants-mawae/
July 21st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Try Cheating Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
……………………..your making me hungry
Okay tater peeler, it’s you’re not your. My point proven once more.
……….read and learn Write your as the possessive form of you, referring to something that a person has, something that belongs to the person in question or, the person you are talking to.
“Is your stomach growling?”
“Your book is on the table.” ……..your italian hero i wish to possess im hungry get it Dupek
July 21st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Try Cheating Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chris Columbus = Italian hero
……………………..your making me hungry
Okay tater peeler, it’s you’re not your. My point proven once more.
……….read and learn Write your as the possessive form of you, referring to something that a person has, something that belongs to the person in question or, the person you are talking to.
“Is your stomach growling?”
“Your book is on the table.” ……..your italian hero i wish to possess im hungry get it Dupek
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LOL…YOUR? AN IDIOT…AND YOU ARE (CONTRACTION YOU’RE) MAKING ME SICK.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Is that your book or mine: You are (you’re) a meathead, Fatt Kidd; You’re a fool, Fatt Kid; You’re ignorant, Fatt kidd….You’re funny, Fatt Kidd.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:06 pm
You’re a tater peeler, Fatt Kidd.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Try Cheating Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 7:06 pm
You’re a tater peeler, Fatt Kidd.
………..Spierdalaj……..
July 21st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I hope Tom Cable can coach up Veldheer, Campbell and Henderson for that matter..
Those three will succeed or fail based on the QUALITY of coaching they receive.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:28 pm
The Raiders already have a lot of new players…and unfortunately, it takes time for new players to gel. I think I would leave the roster the way it is.
Time for the coaches to step up and do their jobs
July 21st, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Try Cheating Says:Fatt Kidd I think your very smart.”
Again, incorrect. The “very smart” does not belong to the person that you are talking to — this doesn’t make any sense. Replace your with you’re, or you are.because there is no possesion,……….thxs for saying i am very smart…
July 21st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
and give Michael Bush the damn ball. 4.8 per carry deserves….well…more carries!
July 21st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
and give Michael Bush the damn ball. 4.8 per carry deserves….well…more carries!
…………………….i think once brian westbrook joins the team michael bush will get less carries..
July 21st, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Bush should get a lot more carries this year.
Darren might transfer some of his touches into more catches and less carries, and no way is Rock or Bennett going to get all of Fargas’ 200 carries.
Wouldn’t be suprised if Bush gets 300 carries.
July 21st, 2010 at 7:51 pm
damn, will start training camp already!!!!!!
July 21st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Fat Kid,
Relax, you are going to enjoy the running game this year with Michael Bush…no need to worry yourself about washout vets….
With Cable out of the picture, Bush has a clear path to the end zone
July 21st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Key camp question…
Will they be more creative with McFadden this year?
July 21st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Academy Award-winning actor Robert De Niro is attached to play legendary coach Vince Lombardi in the theatrical motion picture “Lombardi” being developed by ESPN Films, Andell Entertainment and the NFL. Additionally, Academy Award-winning screenwriter Eric Roth (Forrest Gump, The Good Shepherd) has come on board the project, which will chronicle Lombardi during the years he transformed the Green Bay Packers from the worst team in the National Football League into five-time NFL champions.
“Having an icon portray an icon on film is amazing,” said Ron Semiao, senior vice president of ESPN Films, “and with a writer as talented as Eric working on the script, the results could be magical for NFL fans.”
Current plans call for the film’s release on the weekend between the AFC and NFC Conference Championships and the Super Bowl in 2012
…………………………….i want too see this..
July 21st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
who will play Al Davis in his movie?
July 21st, 2010 at 8:07 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
who will play Al Davis in his movie?
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Ron Jeremy
July 21st, 2010 at 8:19 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
who will play Al Davis in his movie?
Christopher Walken,Danny Devito or Jack Nicholson
July 21st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
NCAA Investigates Florida & South Carolina, Alabama Investigates Alabama, Alleged Facebook Violations and Michigan’s Still a Mess
by Annapolisbuckeye on July 20, 2010
Now that USC is returning Reggie Bush’s Heisman Trophy, it seems like everyone is jumping on the NCAA violation bandwagon. The biggest accusation at the moment involves Florida first round draft pick Maurkice Pouncey who has been accused of accepting $100,000 from a NFL agent before the Sugar Bowl. If he is found guilty, Florida could be forced to forfeit the Sugar Bowl giving Cinci an undefeated season.
Hmm…first he resigns, then he’s back…sound familiar Pete Carroll?
The NCAA is also taking a look at tight end Wesley Saunders who may have joined players from UNC (also under investigation) in a trip to Florida funded by NFL agents.
Meanwhile, in an attempt to stave off the NCAA dogs, Alabama is looking into a party thrown by NFL agents which was attended by Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus. Same party? I don’t know. Whatever the case, Alabama coach Nick Sabin hit it on the head when he said,
What the NFL Players Association and the NFL need to do is if any agent breaks a rule and causes ineligibility for a player, they should suspend his (agent’s) license for a year or two,” Saban said. “I’m about ready for college football to say, ‘Let’s just throw the NFL out. Don’t let them evaluate players. Don’t let them talk to players. Let them do it at the combine.’ If they are not going to help us, why should we help them?”
I’ve got to agree with him. If the agents don’t play by the rules, get them out of the picture.
But wait, that’s not all. Florida and Ole Miss are both in trouble for violating Facebook etiquette. Apparently it’s against NCAA rules for coaches to post comments to recruits Facebook page and that’s exactly what they did. Both are “secondary violations.”
Facebook violations…did I just say that?
Finally, in case you missed it, Michigan’s Brad Labadie, director of football operations, has resigned taking the fall for the NCAA’s investigation into the UM football program. Supposedly Labadie was responsible for keeping better records than he did. Funny, I thought Rodriguez was all about burning players records.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
“With Cable out of the picture”-what an idiotic statement.He is the HEAD COACH,and I for 1 am glad about that.I know there are those that don’t like that,but think about it-if he wasn’t HC there is a good chance Russell would still be the QB.You may disapprove of the play calling under him,but he is responsible for the culture improvement of the team-like it or not.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Culture improvement??
July 21st, 2010 at 9:32 pm
“I hope Cable can coach up V.,C. & Henderson,they will succeed ….”-the job of coaching up the players is the position and assistant coaches not the head coach.And Henderson is 30 something years old with years of NFL exp.-he should be helping the younger guys,not need the HC to coach him up.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
who will play Al Davis in his movie?
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Th preacher from Poltergeist 2
July 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
aig Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Key camp question…
Will they be more creative with McFadden this year?
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With out a doubt.
Offense and D are going to be varied and dynamic.
We could actually see just how ham strung this offense might have been because of he who shall remain unemployed.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
That is correct Dude-No more knuckleheads.No more drug addicts.No more sleeping through meetings.No more being late for meetings and not being held accountable.No more……..
July 21st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
It ALL depends on the O line.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Look, with 2 league scrubs at the helm and a patch work O line this team competed and won last year.
Just sayin’…
July 21st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I assume your referring to John Henderson, Lefty. Mario is only 25 years old bro.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I don’t hold Gradkowski in such low regards as many on here,but I do wonder if it is because the guy he replaced was so terrible that anyone who replaced him would have looked decent(as Jhill and others said) or he did seem to show something when he was allowed to take over.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:49 pm
If you watched that Raiders/Ravens game again it is painfully obvious that we had a very good chance of winning if not for “Mr. Lean”.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Thanks E,I forgot about him and obviously that is who S&B was talking about.I stand corrected.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
The only thing Grads showed is how bad Russell really is.
July 21st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Grads got a couple breaks in that Pittsburg game. Frye looked like an All Pro in the first half against the Ravens compared to Russell in the second half. It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase ” He makes everyone around him better”
July 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
While that may true,I believe he showed more than that.He showed he is a good leader and capable of more than just competing.While he may never be a great QB,he showed he is capable of leading a team when thrust into action.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
The thing that sticks out in my mind is that Russell played and never got hurt, minus a series or two, with the same oline. Grads and Frye may be to fragile for a 16 game NFL season. Solid Backups? They definitely have the work ethic and desire to be ready at anytime. I just hope Campbell can take the hits that Russell did.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I do like Grads and Frye for the 2nd and 3rd QB’s though. I think they add something positive to the team as a whole.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
there is no doubt the Oline must do a better job of keeping the QB on his feet,but hopefully Campbell will do a much better job of reading the Def. and getting rid of the ball in a timely manner.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Also,lets hope the running game and improvement by our WRs slows down the opponents from getting after our QB.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Jason Campbell is good at misleading defenses with his eyes someone taught him to do that well!
July 21st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Campbell will take this team as far as his play and leadership allow. These guys just need someone to trust and believe in. I think that was proven last year when Russell was benched, minus the Dallas game, but hey, they played that game on 3 days rest.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
I got a message on Facebook from an ex-girlfriend tonite. She was rubbing in my face a little how she has a client that has season tix on the 50 yard line at the club level. She gets to go one game a year. She is a travel agent. Funny thing is she told me that she also has Cliff Branch as a client and she srranges his travel to the Pro bowl in Hawaii. I don’t know if I have the heart to tell her that the Pro Bowl was in Miami last year?
July 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Im talking Superbowl, aim high is what I say. Anyone can be mediocre. Well ok, maybe not?
July 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Raider E Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I do like Grads and Frye for the 2nd and 3rd QB’s though. I think they add something positive to the team as a whole.
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gradkowski will give campbell a serious push for ths starting gig. this group seems to rally around grads. healthy competition; should be a good thing.
a little bit of me wants to see gradkowski start. like the way he plays. kind gannon-like.
am i allowed to talk about rich gannon? is that a kosher?
July 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I appreciate the desire Grads has and think competiton creates better players, and also an alliance that will create a better team.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:44 pm
my only concern is can we run,i know we will be able pass.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
We are a much better team now than we’ve ever been since 2003. The offseason moves have been very good. Removing the Jawalrus and getting Hue were big accomplishments for Al this offseason. Drinking the Koolaid!!!!
July 21st, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Were gonna need a blocking fullback who can catch.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
It tastes soooo good too.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
we have a good recieving crew with or without T.O.,i am tickled that we have a kick returner make that plural ,i thought that was a big weakness,but i have doubts about the running game.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
are your doubts due to the RBs we have or the Oline?
July 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 am
lefty12 Says:
July 21st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
are your doubts due to the RBs we have or the Oline?
the backs we have
July 22nd, 2010 at 1:19 am
Former Manager Ralph Houk Dies at 90
7/21/2010 9:39 PM ET By FanHouse Newswire
BOSTON (AP) — Ralph Houk, who guided the powerhouse New York Yankees of the early 1960s to two World Series championships during his 20 years as a big league manager, died Wednesday. He was 90.
Tough couple of weeks for the Yankees organization, which has lost three notable figures from its storied history in the last 10 days. Longtime public address announcer Bob Sheppard died on July 11 and iconic owner Steinbrenner passed away two days later.
Houk’s best seasons as a manager were his first three in New York. He took over the Yankees in 1961 and behind Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris the team won 109 games and a World Series championship.
The Yankees repeated as champions in 1962 and won the AL pennant in 1963, but were swept by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series.
Houk managed a handful of Hall of Famers in New York, but Kubek said he was an integral part of the team’s success.
“Sometimes when you have good players, you can mess it up and he didn’t do that,” he said. “He didn’t overmanage. He was probably, more than a strategist, a handler of men.”
Houk moved into the front office after the series loss to the Dodgers, serving as Yankees general manager in 1964 and ‘65. He returned to managing the Yankees in 1966 and held the job until 1973, but he only had four more winning seasons and never finished better than second place.
The Lawrence, Kan., native had only one winning season with the Tigers, his last in 1978.
“Ralph was a great baseball man who handled his players well and they played hard for him,” Tigers Hall of Famer Al Kaline said in a statement released by the team. “He was well respected and a fun guy to be around. I enjoyed playing for him during my last year.”
Longtime Braves manager Bobby Cox played for Houk with the Yankees in 1968-69.
“Great guy. Great guy,” Cox said Wednesday night after Atlanta lost to San Diego in 12 innings. “Sorry to hear that. I love Ralph. He was just outstanding.”
……WOW THE YANKEES ARE DROPPING LIKE FLIES!!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 am
[...] Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News Group doesn’t expect the Oakland Raiders to sign wide receiver Terrell Owens. [...]
July 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 am
How many TD did DudleyHB catch that he is so improved or is he actually catching the ball and that alone is improvement, cause I thought MR.Pro System in College was gonna be able to contribute right away. I think Mclain,Henderson,Houston mean the end of people running on us.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will Queen Lebron ask Wade, ” Can I be CO-Captain”?
July 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Will we see TO? I say no, but you never know…
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
The preacher from Poltergeist 2
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LOL Naamdi.
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
what up NATION???
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
if there was a Tea Party around in 1965 Bo Schembechler would have been in it.
Print That
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Question, who would be the “sacraficial lamb” if we sign TO?
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
I call him the Canswer not Cantanswer mine being he is a Cancer. When you have been a life long Laker fan you hate every other NBA sorry I don’t do the second team think in any sport Raiders,SF Giants,Lakers the rest of the pro teams I hate! Lakers 10 World Titles Since 79 RR you can cry all you want . When DudleyHB starts catching TD than his nickname is gone. Until than he is Ricky Dudley JR.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
Question, who would be the “sacraficial lamb” if we sign TO?
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LOL!
Nick Miller and Todd Watkins = no chance to stick
JLH = slim chance to stick
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
NMF: Iverson & James are studs
A.I. has lost a step (maybe two) but I thing he would give a playoff team some good minutes off the bench, especially a team like Miami that only has Chalmers & Arroyo at PG … disgusting
and DHB will rip it up this year. you will RUE THE DAY my friend
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
Trust me RR if DudleyHB is killing with long TD and big time Rec I will admit I was wrong, and being a Raider I hope no pray he proves me wrong.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
Can’t wait for the first preseason game.
Tough game in Dallas, our firsts gave up a long TD drive to them last preseason (with Routt, no suprise there, getting posted up by Witten for a TD).
Campbell has struggled more against Dallas than maybe any other team, putting up a combined 16 points in his last three games against them, with two of them at home.
Wonder how many series they will give him.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
JFB: what do starters usually get in the first preseason game?
first half? first quarter?
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:06 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
Can’t wait for the first preseason game.
Tough game in Dallas, our firsts gave up a long TD drive to them last preseason (with Routt, no suprise there, getting posted up by Witten for a TD).
Campbell has struggled more against Dallas than maybe any other team, putting up a combined 16 points in his last three games against them, with two of them at home.
Wonder how many series they will give him.
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I expect he’ll go into the third quarter unless the line is too porous to risk it.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:06 am
Usually one or two series, depending on how things are going.
If he scores a TD the first drive, they might just park him at that. If we go 3 and out twice, he should get a third series.
I just know we can’t give him the Jamarcus treatment, and just play him a few series, no matter what, and say , “Hey that is our starting QB, come hell or high-water.”
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
I bet DudleyHB has a better season than DudleyMAC.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:08 am
JFB: were you impressed with Bruce Gradkowski against Dallas last year on Thanksgiving?
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
DHB will have a low catch, high YPC and TD ratio.
Look for 40 catches, for 700+ yards and 6+ TD’s.
Chaz, Murphy and Miller, and maybe even Darren, might all have more catches than him. But DHB may have more TD’s than any of them.
You heard it here first.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Not overly impressed, but on 3 days rest against that d on the road it wasn’t as bad as some make it seem.
JC scored all of 6 points against Dallas, on full weeks of rest, with the benefit of a home game, IN TWO COMBINED GAMES!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
BSJ; Dmac may run like Hayes but he plays like S**t!
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
The TO question…I like our young WRs, give them time to develop, its not like every other unit on the team is SuperBowl ready.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
BSJ; Dmac may run like Hayes but he plays like S**t!
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Awesome!!
On a side note, the coach died just the other day I belive.
May coach Brown RIP.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
SeyGlen doesn’t like his 20 aliases being censored so he packed his bags & left? This is too good to be true like when tj said he wasn’t coming back!
Anyway, don’t let the door hit you in your pompous a$$. Fat Runt you might want to follow SeyGlen out.
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# Seymour Bush Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 am
Seriously, if 14 year old kids can hack your site, and post bull sh*t under our names, then I am on the wrong site. See ya.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
LOL
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
@ Hayes
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Lots of work to cover today before I leave…hopefully no OT, but…gotta do what I gotta do…
See ya all tomorrow in the AM!!!
Go Raiders!!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
As much as I hate TO I think he winds up in Oakland.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:39 am
If nothing else TO could show Murphy & DHB how to do situps properly.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
HAHA! awesome
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/contribute/sn/photo?plckPhotoID=d11801da-e3fb-4e48-a8b2-9aa4a95680be&plckGalleryID=764ccdde-4d93-4f5b-b907-e0fddf9082c7
can’t wait until little Darrius Humuhumunukunukuapua’a McFadden is born
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
That little fat kid could be our future C.
July 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
Clippers ask about Andre Iguodala trade
By Kurt Helin (PBT)
The Clippers have a pretty nice roster — Baron Davis at the point, Eric Gordon at the two, Blake Griffin as the power forward and Chris Kaman anchoring the middle.
What they lack is an attacking wing player at the three. They struck out not only with LeBron James but with all the big name swingmen in the free agent market, They drafted Al-Faroqu Aminu for that role, and while he looked pretty good at Summer League he did not look like a guy ready to step in and play a starter’s role yet.
So the Clippers have turned to trades, asking about the availability of Andre Iguodala of Philadelphia, according to David Aldridge of NBA.com.
Iguodala would be a good fit, but he would also be an expensive one — he has four years and nearly $57 million remaining on his contract.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
I wonder if JC is lobbying for TO behind the scenes or he’s happy with what we have.
If I had to bet I would say he’s lobbying..
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
McGrady tweeted yesterday that he has plenty of interest:
“clippers, bulls, lakers, heat….but that could change by the morning…lol..this is the NBA”
The Heat will not be bringing him in, they have said privately they do not want to bring in another big name and personality that could in any way threaten the chemistry of their big three.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Matt Barnes was still trying to decide Wednesday afternoon whether he’ll take more money to play with the Cavaliers or chase a chance at a championship with the Lakers, Celtics or Heat.
The Cavaliers can offer the most money by far of any of the teams that Barnes is considering. Cleveland has its full mid-level exception for next season, $5.8 million, to use to sign players. The Cavaliers also have the $14.5 million trade exception they received from Miami as part of the sign-and-trade deal earlier this month for LeBron James. But Cleveland won’t use the trade exception for Barnes, and it’s not likely it would use all of the mid-level for the 30-year-old forward. Cleveland opted to take the big trade exception for James rather than renouncing him and several other free agents to clear cap space.
Just to break out the numbers on the contenders: The Lakers can offer the remaining $1.8 million from their mid-level exception (Steve Blake took up the first $4 million); the Heat and Celtics can only offer a veterans minimum of $1.2 million. Orlando does not have his “Bird rights” because he played for just one season for them, so they cannot exceed the cap to sign him. That’s what killed the sign-and-trade with Toronto.
The money matters. Barnes has made “only” $7.7 million in his six years in the league. Yes, you and I would take that in a heartbeat, but in the financial world of the NBA that is nothing — every team in the NBA has at least a couple players making more than that this year alone, often players making twice that this year alone.
Barnes has played well under pressure for contenders, he deserves a payday. But he’s not getting a big one. So he sits and is indecisive. Can’t really blame him.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
Good morning.
A few weeks ago, Chris Cooley was interviewed on Sirius. He was sad about Campbell going because he and Campbell were such good friends.
But the thing that came out of that interview was the little comment Cooley made that “Jason loves his receivers out there.”
Of all the things to note in the two friends’ conversations, it sounds like the receivers have been a big part of what Campbell has been impressed with in Oakland.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
Tracy McGrady = selfish hoops player. The complete opposite of a winner.
Matt Barnes = unselfish hoopster. A complete winner.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
that is good.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Sources close to Nuggets star Carmelo Anthony have said that he expects to accept the team’s offer of a three-year, $65 million contract extension.
Philadelphia 76ers signed free agent center Tony Battie.
http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Tracy McGrady = selfish hoops player. The complete opposite of a winner.
Matt Barnes = unselfish hoopster. A complete winner.
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so in other words, T-Mac will be a Laker and Barnes will join the Heat or Celtics instead of making more cash in Cleveland?
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Hornets guard Chris Paul reportedly expresses interest in joining Lakers
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/chris-paul-reportedly-expresses-interest-in-joining-the-lakers.html
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Gotta luv it!
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HOOVER, Ala. (AP)—Nick Saban didn’t pull punches Wednesday when discussing the improper contact with athletes by unscrupulous agents, comparing their behavior to that of a “pimp.”
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 am
Chris Johnson signs his new deal
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Chris Johnson has officially received the pay raise he was looking for.
A league source tells us that Johnson signed the deal on Thursday that PFT first reported was agreed to on Monday. The contract will pay Johnson more money this season by accelerating some escalators that he had unlocked for future seasons.
So Johnson will arrive at Titans practices next week a happy camper. And he’ll stay that way — at least until next offseason.
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 am
training camp starts up next thursday.
1 week boys!
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
Maybe B Favre’s agent has been reading this blog I’ve been calling Favre a Drama queen for 2 years. Retire already!
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
former 2x Pro Bowl guard Shawn Andrews (Eagles) now plays for the Omaha Nighthawks in the UFL ???
He missed all of last year with a back injury. only played in the first 2 games of 2008 because of a back injury
geez. I hope Robert Gallery’s back holds up!
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Al Davis,
please sign C Kevin Mawae & FB Brad Hoover this week before training camp starts up. If they suck, cut them!
Thanks.
RaiderRockstar
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
Monte Cess Poole just stirs the pot. He may have got something right one time, what year was that?
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
DT Jason Shirley (Bengals)
S Daniel Bullocks (Lions)
WR Chris Davis (Titans) *** return man
FB’s: BJ Askew, Kyle Eckel, Jeremi Johnson, Dan Kreider
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
I wonder how many DMAC jerseys & bobbleheads Dakota would have to sell to open up a Pawn Shop in Holland?
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:20 am
Still not sold…
Silver & Black Sleepers pt. 8
“The new Wes Welker?”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:23 am
J Wiggle Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!
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Beasty!
I hope so, but he’s been struggling. I’m sure they may have a few packages. but his forte was using that massive wing span to snag edge rushers in college.
Negated with his move inside to guard and he has struggled mightly in run blocking.
Hard to imagine him in on pass protection plays and harder to imagine him in on short yardage run plays.
Hope he can improve enough to make an impact, but not sure yet.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 am
Bruce Campbell is a BEAST and will be an IMPACT player on our Oline this year!
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Bruce Campbell won’t see the field this year unless somebody gets hurt. Even then, he’ll struggle
Barnes is your backup LG behind Gallery and Morris is your backup RG behind Carlisle
Henderson/Veldheer
Satele/Morris
Walker/Pears
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Not sure what happened to the numbering there…oh well, RR good morning!
I think you’re right about Campbell of course but would like to see Khalif challenge for RT.
Walker may have a shot but I really liked him at guard.
He hated it apparently filling for Gallery but he leveled some mo’ fo’s and blew open some huge holes for our RBs.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
he has struggled mightly in run blocking.
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Source ????
Practices are closed so how do you know what is going on? Because the guy said he was struggling after the first practice of him moving from 1) college and 2) changing positions ….
Man, you guys will run with some stuff, lol!
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Mods on a tear? went from 400 sumthing to 382..
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
J Wiggle Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
he has struggled mightly in run blocking.
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Source ????
Practices are closed so how do you know what is going on? Because the guy said he was struggling after the first practice of him moving from 1) college and 2) changing positions ….
Man, you guys will run with some stuff, lol!
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Source?!!!
JERRY MCDONALD and BRUCE CAMPBELL!!!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Bruce Campbell won’t see the field this year unless somebody gets hurt. Even then, he’ll struggle
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If you say so mayne …
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Don’t get me wrong J Wig, I’d like nothing more than to be proven wrong on this one.
If the line struggles…it could be another looong season…
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Source?!!!
JERRY MCDONALD and BRUCE CAMPBELL!!!!
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So let me get this straight …
Your contention is Campbell is struggling with run blocking?
Even though there have been no pads put on and everything has pretty much been non contact?
Jerry Mac tells you that gets to see 1 outta what 5 practices? And limited viewing at that?
Bruce Campbell is a beast and will be an impact OL for us!
Print that!
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Good job Mods!!!!!
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
I’d like nothing more than to be proven wrong on this one.
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I’m just trying to figure out how the guy can’t get on the field at RG in some of your opinions?
The guy was a top 5 LT prospect and he can’t play frickin RG?????
Yeah he’s raw, for a LT that is. But RG ??? ANd replacing one of the worst in the league in Carlisle????
Shouldn’t be that hard or that much of a drop off, if any.
IMO
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
lefty12 Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.
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That would be GREAT!
Fix the O line, save the Raiders….
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
RRS …
It seems the mods are not letting me post about politics, lol!
5 posts have been deleted, or are “awaiting …”
Hilarious!
Guess I’ll move on …
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
lefty12 Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.
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Mid season?
My theory is we all know RG and LT were probably 2 of the worst postions we had last year. Why go half a year with the same players that are arguably the worst at their positions in the league?
In other words, how can Campbell or Veldheer be any worse? Let them get that 6 games of experience under their belts instead of sitting on the bench.
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Cable has said when you draft players in the 1st couple of rds. you want someone who can come in and contribute right away.Veldheer should get an opportunity right away and Campbell was projected to go early at tackle so as J says moving to guard shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
The reason I say by mid season is due to the way the Raiders usually do things.They usually ease draft picks in instead of throwing them out there-except for the 1st rd picks,ie.-DHB,McLain,Huff,etc.But I’m with you,I’d give them the exp. yesterday.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Well, me at least.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 am
No that would mean our O-line was garbage and had to make a switch mid year. Not all a good scenario! Think things through before you post.
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lefty12 Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Veldheer and Campbell win jobs by mid season.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Did you really just call Bruce Campbell a bust BEFORE his first training camp? Can a fourth round pick even be a bust?
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
If Cooper and Henderson(without Gallery) play as they did last year,our line will be garbage just as it was last year.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
BCZ: we could have taken a much better player than Bruce Campbell in RD4
for all we know BC could have been sitting there in RD 6 or 7!
the guy played LT in college and was awful. we’re trying to make him a 2nd string RG because he posted good numbers at the combine? i’ll pass on this kid. he doesn’t have it. and he’s certainly not going to beat out Cooper Carlisle at RG who has only missed 1 start (due to injury) in the last 5 years! thats just silly
maybe Cable can “coach him up”, but I think he’ll just flop like Kwame Harris.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 am
the O-Line will be fine
Starters: Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Carlisle-Walker
Backups: Veldheer-Barnes-Morris-Campbell-Pears
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
If this, if that, blah, blah, blah, its a new year, new start everybody is healthy. S.T.F.U and quit yer beeotchin.
If Cable doesn’t get this Oline pumpin on all cylinders this year he take his fat a$$ to the JaMarcus Bob@ma unemployment line.
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:42 am
Wow… you guys cant help but find something ANYTHING to complain about… we could have gotten someone better in the 4th round? How do you even know? THEY HAVENT EVEN PUT ON PADS YET! Can the man please play ONE SNAP of NFL football before we annoint him a FOURTH round bust…
July 22nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Hornets guard Chris Paul reportedly expresses interest in joining Lakers
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/chris-paul-reportedly-expresses-interest-in-joining-the-lakers.html
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I said this a while back… Would be a good counter to what is going on in miami, provided Phil does not stick exclusively with the triangle. Paul however would bust the SCAP, as he is at 13-14 per…
July 22nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
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