Camp questions: Will we see T.O.?


Eighth in a series analyzing quesitons and issues regarding the Raiders with players reporting to training camp in Napa a week from today:

Is it possible the Raiders will bring aboard Terrell Owens?

Columnist Monte Poole thinks so, and made his case in today’s Bay Area News Group publications.

If that argument sounds vaguely familiar, I wrote pretty much the same thing back on March 11.

If Monte thinks something, chances are pretty good the Raiders are thinking the opposite. The two sides have a special relationship that way.

And while the Raiders and I were on the same page on draft day with the selection of Rolando McClain, two developments in the offseason made it a lot less likely they would bring in Owens.

The first was an improvement in Darrius Heyward-Bey, last year’s No. 7 overall pick. While the second-year receiver still has to prove it during live contact, as well as during preseason and regular season games, there was a marked difference in the way he performed during minicamps and organized team activities open to the media.

The second was the appearance of Chaz Schilens during the last OTA open to the media. Schilens underwent a second surgery for on a broken fifth metatarsal on his left foot following the season, and the Raiders had to be at least a little nervous about him holding up. Coach Tom Cable originally said Schilens wouldn’t be ready to go until training camp, so he’s ahead of schedule.

I’m guessing that at this point the Raiders want to fully develop their young corps of receivers, which includes Louis Murphy, and won’t do anything to cut into their playing time by bringing in Owens.

As I mentioned on my on-line chat Tuesday, the best chance of seeing Owens would be if one of those three players were to be injured and out for a prolonged length of time.

That’s probably the game Owens is playing now _ waiting and watching to see if a team loses a receiver during training camp.

Previous camp questions:

Can less be more for Cable?

Can the starting linebackers hold up in coverage?

How good is Mike Mitchell?

Can Mario be super?

Can Higgins return to ’08 form?

Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

Can Bush be a beast?


I try and check in with The Onion every day, and this story on the Raiders is one reason why.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Raider E

    The thing that sticks out in my mind is that Russell played and never got hurt, minus a series or two, with the same oline. Grads and Frye may be to fragile for a 16 game NFL season. Solid Backups? They definitely have the work ethic and desire to be ready at anytime. I just hope Campbell can take the hits that Russell did.

  • Raider E

    I do like Grads and Frye for the 2nd and 3rd QB’s though. I think they add something positive to the team as a whole.

  • lefty12

    there is no doubt the Oline must do a better job of keeping the QB on his feet,but hopefully Campbell will do a much better job of reading the Def. and getting rid of the ball in a timely manner.

  • lefty12

    Also,lets hope the running game and improvement by our WRs slows down the opponents from getting after our QB.

  • fat kidd

    Jason Campbell is good at misleading defenses with his eyes someone taught him to do that well!

  • Raider E

    Campbell will take this team as far as his play and leadership allow. These guys just need someone to trust and believe in. I think that was proven last year when Russell was benched, minus the Dallas game, but hey, they played that game on 3 days rest.

  • Raider E

    I got a message on Facebook from an ex-girlfriend tonite. She was rubbing in my face a little how she has a client that has season tix on the 50 yard line at the club level. She gets to go one game a year. She is a travel agent. Funny thing is she told me that she also has Cliff Branch as a client and she srranges his travel to the Pro bowl in Hawaii. I don’t know if I have the heart to tell her that the Pro Bowl was in Miami last year? 🙂

  • Raider E

    Im talking Superbowl, aim high is what I say. Anyone can be mediocre. Well ok, maybe not?

  • MTraidernation

    Raider E Says:
    July 21st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
    I do like Grads and Frye for the 2nd and 3rd QB’s though. I think they add something positive to the team as a whole.


    gradkowski will give campbell a serious push for ths starting gig. this group seems to rally around grads. healthy competition; should be a good thing.

    a little bit of me wants to see gradkowski start. like the way he plays. kind gannon-like.

    am i allowed to talk about rich gannon? is that a kosher?

  • Raider E

    I appreciate the desire Grads has and think competiton creates better players, and also an alliance that will create a better team.

  • fat kidd

    my only concern is can we run,i know we will be able pass.

  • aig

    We are a much better team now than we’ve ever been since 2003. The offseason moves have been very good. Removing the Jawalrus and getting Hue were big accomplishments for Al this offseason. Drinking the Koolaid!!!!

  • Raider E

    Were gonna need a blocking fullback who can catch.

  • Raider E

    It tastes soooo good too.

  • fat kidd

    we have a good recieving crew with or without T.O.,i am tickled that we have a kick returner make that plural ,i thought that was a big weakness,but i have doubts about the running game.

  • lefty12

    are your doubts due to the RBs we have or the Oline?

  • fat kidd

    lefty12 Says:
    July 21st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    are your doubts due to the RBs we have or the Oline?

    the backs we have

  • fat kidd

    Former Manager Ralph Houk Dies at 90
    7/21/2010 9:39 PM ET By FanHouse Newswire

    BOSTON (AP) — Ralph Houk, who guided the powerhouse New York Yankees of the early 1960s to two World Series championships during his 20 years as a big league manager, died Wednesday. He was 90.

    Tough couple of weeks for the Yankees organization, which has lost three notable figures from its storied history in the last 10 days. Longtime public address announcer Bob Sheppard died on July 11 and iconic owner Steinbrenner passed away two days later.

    Houk’s best seasons as a manager were his first three in New York. He took over the Yankees in 1961 and behind Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris the team won 109 games and a World Series championship.

    The Yankees repeated as champions in 1962 and won the AL pennant in 1963, but were swept by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series.

    Houk managed a handful of Hall of Famers in New York, but Kubek said he was an integral part of the team’s success.

    “Sometimes when you have good players, you can mess it up and he didn’t do that,” he said. “He didn’t overmanage. He was probably, more than a strategist, a handler of men.”

    Houk moved into the front office after the series loss to the Dodgers, serving as Yankees general manager in 1964 and ’65. He returned to managing the Yankees in 1966 and held the job until 1973, but he only had four more winning seasons and never finished better than second place.

    The Lawrence, Kan., native had only one winning season with the Tigers, his last in 1978.

    “Ralph was a great baseball man who handled his players well and they played hard for him,” Tigers Hall of Famer Al Kaline said in a statement released by the team. “He was well respected and a fun guy to be around. I enjoyed playing for him during my last year.”

    Longtime Braves manager Bobby Cox played for Houk with the Yankees in 1968-69.

    “Great guy. Great guy,” Cox said Wednesday night after Atlanta lost to San Diego in 12 innings. “Sorry to hear that. I love Ralph. He was just outstanding.”


  • NoMoreFargasForever

    How many TD did DudleyHB catch that he is so improved or is he actually catching the ball and that alone is improvement, cause I thought MR.Pro System in College was gonna be able to contribute right away. I think Mclain,Henderson,Houston mean the end of people running on us.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Will Queen Lebron ask Wade, ” Can I be CO-Captain”?

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Will we see TO? I say no, but you never know…

  • The preacher from Poltergeist 2


    LOL Naamdi.

  • Thec07

    what up NATION???

  • RaiderRockstar

    if there was a Tea Party around in 1965 Bo Schembechler would have been in it.

    Print That

  • Thec07

    Question, who would be the “sacraficial lamb” if we sign TO?

  • NoMoreFargasForever

    I call him the Canswer not Cantanswer mine being he is a Cancer. When you have been a life long Laker fan you hate every other NBA sorry I don’t do the second team think in any sport Raiders,SF Giants,Lakers the rest of the pro teams I hate! Lakers 10 World Titles Since 79 RR you can cry all you want . When DudleyHB starts catching TD than his nickname is gone. Until than he is Ricky Dudley JR.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Question, who would be the “sacraficial lamb” if we sign TO?



    Nick Miller and Todd Watkins = no chance to stick

    JLH = slim chance to stick

  • RaiderRockstar

    NMF: Iverson & James are studs

    A.I. has lost a step (maybe two) but I thing he would give a playoff team some good minutes off the bench, especially a team like Miami that only has Chalmers & Arroyo at PG … disgusting

    and DHB will rip it up this year. you will RUE THE DAY my friend

  • NoMoreFargasForever

    Trust me RR if DudleyHB is killing with long TD and big time Rec I will admit I was wrong, and being a Raider I hope no pray he proves me wrong.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Can’t wait for the first preseason game.

    Tough game in Dallas, our firsts gave up a long TD drive to them last preseason (with Routt, no suprise there, getting posted up by Witten for a TD).

    Campbell has struggled more against Dallas than maybe any other team, putting up a combined 16 points in his last three games against them, with two of them at home.

    Wonder how many series they will give him.

  • RaiderRockstar

    JFB: what do starters usually get in the first preseason game?

    first half? first quarter?

  • Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
    Can’t wait for the first preseason game.

    Tough game in Dallas, our firsts gave up a long TD drive to them last preseason (with Routt, no suprise there, getting posted up by Witten for a TD).

    Campbell has struggled more against Dallas than maybe any other team, putting up a combined 16 points in his last three games against them, with two of them at home.

    Wonder how many series they will give him.


    I expect he’ll go into the third quarter unless the line is too porous to risk it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Usually one or two series, depending on how things are going.

    If he scores a TD the first drive, they might just park him at that. If we go 3 and out twice, he should get a third series.

    I just know we can’t give him the Jamarcus treatment, and just play him a few series, no matter what, and say , “Hey that is our starting QB, come hell or high-water.”

  • I bet DudleyHB has a better season than DudleyMAC.

  • RaiderRockstar

    JFB: were you impressed with Bruce Gradkowski against Dallas last year on Thanksgiving?

  • Just Fire Baby

    DHB will have a low catch, high YPC and TD ratio.

    Look for 40 catches, for 700+ yards and 6+ TD’s.

    Chaz, Murphy and Miller, and maybe even Darren, might all have more catches than him. But DHB may have more TD’s than any of them.

    You heard it here first.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Not overly impressed, but on 3 days rest against that d on the road it wasn’t as bad as some make it seem.

    JC scored all of 6 points against Dallas, on full weeks of rest, with the benefit of a home game, IN TWO COMBINED GAMES!!

  • NoMoreFargasForever

    BSJ; Dmac may run like Hayes but he plays like S**t!

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    The TO question…I like our young WRs, give them time to develop, its not like every other unit on the team is SuperBowl ready.

  • Just Fire Baby

    BSJ; Dmac may run like Hayes but he plays like S**t!



    On a side note, the coach died just the other day I belive.

    May coach Brown RIP.

  • SeyGlen doesn’t like his 20 aliases being censored so he packed his bags & left? This is too good to be true like when tj said he wasn’t coming back!

    Anyway, don’t let the door hit you in your pompous a$$. Fat Runt you might want to follow SeyGlen out.

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    July 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Seriously, if 14 year old kids can hack your site, and post bull sh*t under our names, then I am on the wrong site. See ya.

  • LOL

  • @ Hayes

  • hwnrdr

    Lots of work to cover today before I leave…hopefully no OT, but…gotta do what I gotta do…
    See ya all tomorrow in the AM!!!
    Go Raiders!!!

  • As much as I hate TO I think he winds up in Oakland.

  • If nothing else TO could show Murphy & DHB how to do situps properly.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • Just Fire Baby

    That little fat kid could be our future C.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Clippers ask about Andre Iguodala trade

    By Kurt Helin (PBT)

    The Clippers have a pretty nice roster — Baron Davis at the point, Eric Gordon at the two, Blake Griffin as the power forward and Chris Kaman anchoring the middle.

    What they lack is an attacking wing player at the three. They struck out not only with LeBron James but with all the big name swingmen in the free agent market, They drafted Al-Faroqu Aminu for that role, and while he looked pretty good at Summer League he did not look like a guy ready to step in and play a starter’s role yet.

    So the Clippers have turned to trades, asking about the availability of Andre Iguodala of Philadelphia, according to David Aldridge of NBA.com.

    Iguodala would be a good fit, but he would also be an expensive one — he has four years and nearly $57 million remaining on his contract.

  • I wonder if JC is lobbying for TO behind the scenes or he’s happy with what we have.

    If I had to bet I would say he’s lobbying..

  • RaiderRockstar

    McGrady tweeted yesterday that he has plenty of interest:

    “clippers, bulls, lakers, heat….but that could change by the morning…lol..this is the NBA”

    The Heat will not be bringing him in, they have said privately they do not want to bring in another big name and personality that could in any way threaten the chemistry of their big three.