Camp questions: Is McFadden just a camp star?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, July 25th, 2010 at 10:14 am in Oakland Raiders.
No. 12 in a series of training camp issues and questions as the Raiders report to Napa Tuesday and hold their first practice Thursday:
Can Darren McFadden build on what will probably be another terrific training camp?
Following his selection with the No. 4 overall pick in the draft in 2008, McFadden couldn’t wait to get started.
Rather than play the waiting game with his agents and eventually sign a moment or two before training camp began, McFadden was signed on June 6.
His first camp was spectacular. I wrote at the time he was the best Raiders rookie since Charles Woodson, and I sought the opinion of some people in the organization before I wrote it. These were people who will give me a blunt assessment knowing it was off-the-record, and who are more than willing to tell me when I’m way off base.
McFadden showed lightning burst, with the ability to instantly pull away and outrun angles. He looked impossible to beat to the perimeter. Wasn’t bad inside, either. His pass receiving skills were off the charts _ he had better hands than most of the wideouts and in fact one member of the Raiders organization was convinced that if he was put at that position, he’d be the best pass catcher on the team.
Add to the mix that McFadden always had a smile on his face, loved to work hard, and any character concerns which came after a couple of family-related incidents in Arkansas seemed to be a joke.
Two years later, Al Davis must have thought at least once what it would be like to have drafted Chris Johnson, taken by the Tennessee Titans at No. 24. McFadden has 217 carries for 856 yards in two seasons, with 50 receptions for 530 yards. Johnson has 609 carries for 3,234 yards and 93 receptions for 763 more.
McFadden has been beset by injuries which coach Tom Cable believes have derailed his momentum in each of first two seasons. There was turf toe on both feet as a rookie and post-season shoulder surgery, indicating he was playing with that issue. Minor knee surgery interrupted his second season.
Critics of McFadden contend he goes down at the first hint of contact and often will stumble before even being hit. They want to see Michael Bush early and often and see if McFadden can be put in situations as a perimeter player and receiver which will better utilize his talents. Thinks 600-plus yards rushing and 70-plus catches for 700 yards.
The Raiders still want to see if McFadden can generate some momentum as a runner and be an all-round back capable of gaining 1,200-plus yards and also being a terrific receiver _ a Marshall Faulk or Roger Craig-type player worthy of the No. 4 overall pick.
Chances are McFadden will tear it up again this training camp. It will be up to Hue Jackson to look beyond what the running back does in limited contact situations and determine which course of action will get the most out of him.
Previous camp questions:
Can the starting linebackers hold up in coverage?
Can Higgins return to ‘08 form?
Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?
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July 25th, 2010 at 10:25 am
I hope Hue figures out a way to get both McFadden and Bush on the field at the same time. McFadden is not your every down back answer. He is all built at the top. His center of gravity is way too high to make cuts for the nfl. Watch his college tapes and he hardly jukes anybody. All we see is him making 1 cut and running real fast through wide open holes or around the corner. On the other hand, he’s got good hands though.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:26 am
fukk!
July 25th, 2010 at 10:29 am
anyway // mcfadden is one of the bes video game players ever , but in real life he needs to put sum meat on them sissy legs of his. so he can last an entire season . raiders really need to run sum half back screens this season also .
July 25th, 2010 at 10:31 am
It’s a real head scratcher to think that they are _still_ trying to figure out if he is an every-down back. Obviously, he is not. I really hope this is Bush’s break-out year because I highly doubt Dmac will ever breakout as the every-down back.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:37 am
he hasnt had a good OC till now, so i truely think he will be a factor this year. Hue will get it done.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:04 am
As the season progressed, McFadden seemed to gain a little strength running between the tackles but he still has a ways to go. Bush does need to step it up and get into better shape. There is no need for him to take himself out of games.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:20 am
As long as Bush & DMAC are used as the primary running backs and given 90% of the carries….it won’t matter who is #1 or #2.
THe problem over the past few years have been:
1. DMAC getting injured
2. Cable’s undying support for Justin Fargas
Two running backs will give both the chance to get into a rhythm. Also, we won’t have to worry about Tom Cable, A HORRIBLE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, pulling Bush for one bad carry…or inexplicably benching him.
THe running game will be fine. There are more than enough carries for Bush & DMAC.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Whats Up Nation?!
I’m all for D-Mac rippin’ it up between the twenties, but can Mike Bush be the guy to blast it in from goal-line situations? It will be difficult unless somebody steps up as a decent FB. Manase Tonga?
How will Bennet and the Rock factor in? Can they Block?
I hope y’all are having a good Sunday – they only get better from here.
Go Raiders! 10-6
July 25th, 2010 at 11:32 am
DMC needs to be untouched in order to best utilze his running skills so the Raiders need an O line that can open massive holes for him to sprint thru.
Good luck with that.
Hue should be able to better utilize him than the over worked Tom Cable.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Bush’s ceiling and potential value is much higher than Darren’s.
Darren can still be effective in some roles, but effective between the tackles runners are about as rare as lockdown covers and franchise QB’s.
Bush is one, Darren is not.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Jerry– I thing you need to conduct some sort of measurements on the practice field in Napa, to conclude whether or not the the hash marks are perhaps recessed, thus leading to McSkinny’s impressive showing in previous camps. Since he doesn’t seem to trip over them only on THAT field.
Might, I suggest you obtain a nice straight 16-20ft. 2×4 from a local lumber supply, and place it along the hash marks (1 1/2in. side down.) You should be able to quickly determine any depth in the marks with this method.
I’m sure Herrera won’t mind if you do this for us. Anxiously awaiting your findings, and report on this matter.
Yours, 909RaiderLifer.
July 25th, 2010 at 11:57 am
yo
July 25th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Need to get DMC in space although he can’t seem to juke anyone for ****.
Bush needs to prove he can run bishes over if not he could turn into the next Ron Dayne.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
**ThinK**…..eerrrrrrrrr…
July 25th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
poor o-lines, poor playcalling, and no passing game. No wonder he’s struggled. I’m not saying he’ll be great but I still think we need to wait n see. If Campbell can be good enough to at least make other teams respect the pass I still think McD can be a good player. Bush seems to lack the stamina(will?) to be an every down back so we better hope 22 has a break0out season. IMO
July 25th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Darren had a 3.4 YPC last year, fumbled more than Fargas and Bush combined, and has missed one game for every 4 in his career.
Any skepticism is warranted, and any excuses and optimism is unfounded.
Can he turn it around? Sure, and we all hope so. Will he? Doubtful.
Feed Bush the rock, and have either Rock or Bennett ready if/when Darren falters with his carries.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
I hope Merrimaid does report and I hope the DOlts front load him $90 million cuz without the roids and with a mnagled knee odds are he’s washed up.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8194ab2a/article/report-chargers-merriman-discussing-when-hell-report-to-camp
July 25th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
16. JFB,
True, but he ran behind Chris Morris, Satele, Green, Cooper, Walker…and NO FB!
He could use some help and an O corrd, but yeah, we need him to turn it on…
July 25th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
In regards to Bushs’ stamina issues, one must consider he played one half in 2006, and no games in 2007.
Tough to go from that and become a workhorse.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Nnamdi,
Better blocking would help, well help any RB, but that hasn’t seemed to be an issue for Bush.
Tough to buy the blocking issue for one back, when another back with the same line, coach, OC and QB has been very successful.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
It would seem then that neither back can be relied upon to carry the load. Bush’s lack of games must have contributed to sharpness but certainly not fatigue. Mentally his injury may have had an impact, I dont know. When he’s good he’s very good, but McFadden is explosive in the open and I’m optimistic (however misplaced) he’ll have a much better season.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Zone blocking works much better for inside runs and inside runners. On the edge where 22 likes to run, man blocking is more effective for the runner to read the blocks. We only have one gaurd who pulls well (Gallery)so this may be a draw back for Mcfadden. I know it sounds like I’m making excuses. So what.
Cant figure out the apparent lack off finishing of runs though.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Bush wasn’t given the doggone football! Tom Cable inexplicably denied him carries…..how about just going into a game and saying “Michael Bush is our running back today”
NO running back can be successful getting a few carries every 3 games.
Tom Cable WASTED all those carries on Fargas and then backed that up by letting Charlie Frye throw 50x in the 2nd half of he Cleveland game….even though Bush was averaging 5+ per carry at half time…only to give Bush NO carries the remainder of the game.
Bush + DMAC – Fargas – CABLE = Running Game!
July 25th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
What kind of PROFESSIONAL offensive coordinator doesn’t feed the rock to the running back averaging 4.8 per carry?
That’s why Hue Jackson is here. He will get it right.
As for conditioning, what the hell do they do in practice and training camp. Tell Al Davis to STOP RUNNING CLUB MED and let the coaches put these players through the paces during camp / practice.
I have never heard of a team with more hamstring issues (stretch & conditioning), weight issues and cardio than the Raiders the last few years.
Tell the coaches to do their job!
July 25th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
JaDavis is zonked out on Purple Drank and yet he is still allowed to start anyway.
I hope Al Davis has learned his freekn lesson at this late stage of the game!
July 25th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
“129 carries that Justin Fargas had last year, which was more than either Bush or McFadden.” NFL.com
This year should give a better indication which remaining back is No.1. Regardless, we’ll need both.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Mcfadden had better stats and played in the SEC against chris johnson’s stats, so this is really befuddling to me. It has to be the coaches as the reason why. Let’s hope as others have mentioned that hue can find plays for Dmac. Go raiders!!!
July 25th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
What up Nation!
Basically I see McFadden the same way most see J Campbell. Most think Campbell will lead us to the playoffs (I believe too) but many doubt DMAC. Campbell has had dissappointments in recent years like DMAC the last two but I think with this new OC and revamped line, DMAC will have a breakout year.
I see the line looking like this:
(LT)Henderson(LG)Gallery(C)Satele(RG)Walker(RT)Barnes
Veldheer, B Campbell, Morris, Parsons, and whoever will be solid backups.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
I see Lane Kiffin has pi%£ed of Jeff Fisher by stealing his Running back coach.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I’m glad Fargas is gone, but let’s not discredit his play last year.
We won 5 games last year. Fargas was the leading rusher in 3 of them (Philly, Cincy, Steelers). In the Cincy game, Bush got 4 carries and fumbled, so he didn’t help any.
Bush and Darren led the way against Denver and the Chiefs.
We scored 20 points 4 times last year (lol). Fargas was the leading back in two of them.
You can argue that our offense was at our best when he was the lead back.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Not saying we should have kept Fargas and made him the lead back this year. He has ran his course.
But HE was not the reason our running game and offense didn’t get going. He helped more than he hurt.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Fargas was able to do what he did because Tom Cable’s favorite movie is “Rudy.”
And for the record, I remember watching a game 4 years ago where Crash Test Dummy was earning that name. He went hard up the middle, and I mean extremely hard, as some defender from the outside came across and stuck his index finger out and touched Crash Test. It was like a fork in the road. Crash Test went airborn, the ball went one way and Crash Test went another. I jumped outta my seat and emphatically cussed out my T.V. as if the Samsung had something to do with the play. Un-freakin-believeable.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
McFadden will be a potent weapon if he’s used right and avoids the injury bug. The last two years it seemed like he had 5 carries between the tackles for every 1 play on the perimeter. Hopefully Hue sets that straight.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Not to mention he’s only been getting an average of about 10 touches per game to do anything with. That needs to about double for him to have a real chance to shine.
And don’t underestimate the effect of having a passing game that absolutely no one respected the last few seasons as well. If Campbell, Miller, Schilens, DHB, JLH and Murphy can jumpstart that it’ll open things up for DMC.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Under The Microsope: FB Marcel Reece
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During the Washington Huskies historically bad 2007 season, they had a 6′2″ 240 pound wide receiver catching passes. That year, current Oakland Raiders fullback Marcel Reece started all 13 games for the Huskies at wide receiver, and earned himself the KING-TV Most improved offensive player award at the team’s postseason banquet. During his 43 game career with the Huskies, Reece caught 120 passes for 2,866 yards (23.9 ypc) and 20 total touchdowns.
Despite his impressive numbers with the Huskies, Reece did not receive an invitation to the NFL combine. He did, however, graduate with the body of a linebacker and the speed of a wide receiver. At his school’s pro day, he ran the 40 in 4.42 seconds, registered a broad jump of 9′6″, and showed off a 36 ½ inch vertical leap.
“I never feel any pressure,” Reece said when asked about the added significance of his Pro Day workout after being a combine snub. “This is football. This is a sport. This is what I’ve been doing my whole life. As (UW running back) Louis Rankin and I always say, ‘We get fresher under pressure.’ It’s a corny phrase that has a lot of meaning to it, because we love pressure, we love to be in competition. This is why we do it.”
He was the highest rated Husky heading into that draft, rated as a potential 7th round draft pick, but Reece never did get drafted that year. There was much debate over what position Reece would play at the next level; he was seen as too short to play tight end, too stocky to be an efficient receiver, too tall to be an effective halfback.
“This has been going on my whole career,” Reece said. “I’ve learned to get used to it. I’ve learned to embrace it and basically show people I can do whatever they want me to do. I just love being on the field, so I’ll play anything they want me to play.”
Reece was scooped up as an undrafted free agent by the Miami Dolphins. Shortly after not making the Dolphins squad, he got a call from the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders decided to bring Reece in as an option at fullback. During that time, the Raiders were in the second year of the Lane Kiffin experiment. They had fullback Justin Griffith, who came over from the Atlanta Falcons following offensive line coach Tom Cable and Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp. They also had another rookie they were impressed with named Oren O’Neal and four year pro Luke Lawton.
Reece didn’t make the 53 man roster, but he did earn himself a spot on the practice squad that year. In the middle of the season, head coach Lane Kiffin was fired, the Raiders season self imploded, and Marcel Reece just kept plugging away. When the 2009 season came, the Raiders brought back fullback Oren O’Neal, who was put on IR early in the 2008 season, and they also brought in veteran hole puncher Lorenzo Neal. Ultimately, it was 5 year pro Luke Lawton’s job due to injuries to O’Neal and Neal. And Marcel Reece was once again delegated to the practice squad.
Now it’s Reece’s time to go under the Oakland Microscope. This is his make or break year; Reece will not be able to go onto the Raiders practice squad this year, as he has used up his eligibility. During the final two games of the 2009 season, Reece was moved from the practice squad to the 53 man roster for the Raiders due to Luke Lawton’s suspension from the league for testing positive for a banned substance.
Recently, when asked about what the Raiders would do for a fullback this year, Head Coach Tom Cable said, “Marcel Reece is there and Luke Lawton is there and then we’ll see.” Cable also said at his pre-draft news conference last Thursday that there are not really any I-Form fullbacks left in college football. He said it was becoming increasingly hard to evaluate guys for the position in the NFL.
I think Reece is not only a good FB option, but it would give Oakland another dangerous weapon on offense. A dangerous weapon with a high likelihood of being overlooked during opponents defensive scheme meetings. Reece could be a player that could be detrimental to a team who doesn’t game-plan for his abilities; much like FB Peyton Hillis of the Cleveland Browns via the Denver Broncos.
Marcel Reece has a lot to prove this year, but he has a couple of things working in his favor. For one, he has clocked two years in the organization. The second thing would be a boatload of raw talent. Finally, there is the still pending suspension of last year’s starter Luke Lawton. That’s not to say that Reece should start by default, but it is to say when opportunity meets preparation, that is where you find success. Reece has the tools to play this spot and be as an effective FB as the Raiders have had since the days of Zach Crockett. In fact, I will go so far as to say that Reece has the talent to be the best fullback the Raiders have ever had, but Marcel needs to show people that he can do whatever they want him to do. It’s time to sink or swim for Reece with the Raiders
July 25th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Certainly being able to sustain drives by completing some passes and a few 3rd and 8’s will help the backs get going.
But it is tought to continue to pound the ball to a back who is averaging 3.4 ypc and our defense is one of the worst in the league.
Darren wants more touches? Doing something with them will help that cause more so than the QB.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
‘Sup fellas?
Man, reading Jerry’s opener about McFadden’s first camp gets me excited. Thinking about what might of been and what might still be. He was tearing it up.
Then week 2 he suffers the turf toe injury. On both feet. That injury is supposed to be very painful, and obviously affects ones balance. Ended Lambert’s career.
He tried to shoot it up and play through it. Who knows what kind of damage he might have done and how long it might have lingered.
Hopefully the guy is finally healthy, and able to stay healthy. Maybe this will be the guys breakout year. I think he and Bush can be a hell of a one-two punch. There should be plenty of carries for both.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Many complain because they believe Fargas was given carries that should have been given to McFadden and Bush.For one,McFadden is constantly injured and nursing nagging injuries.Should the coaches play a player who is injured over one who is healthy?As for Bush,in todays NFL it is the PLAYERS responsibility to be in shape,not the coaches.If a player can’t motivate himself to get and stay in shape he is lucky he isn’t cut.Hopefully this year Bush realizes he could be the man and will be in better game condition and won’t ask to come out as often.The reason Cable played Fargas as much as he did was because of what the other 2 couldn’t do not because he had this fascination with him.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
There should be more touches for EVERYONE this year.
The offense in total won’t be as bad, meaning more plays.
The defense won’t be as bad, meaning more offensive chances.
Bush better be ready, Darren needs to stay healthy and be more productive, and Rock/Bennett will get some touches as well.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Stop with the excuses already for McFadden. He ran behind the same line as Bush yet Bush has shown more. McFadden has to step it oup period. Go youtube McFadden’s college highlights and you see him running through wide open holes or around the corner. You dont get wide open holes in the pros. McFadden cannot make a play for himself. We are more suited for Bush until our Oline improves. I doubt our Oline will ever dominate the way we did in 2002.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
AIG,I for one am not making excuses for the guy,just pointing out that he seems to always have some nagging injury and that isn’t a good thing.If the guy can’t stay healthy,he can’t help the team and someone else has to play in his place.It is time for him to step up or be considered a HUGE bust.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I am indifferent to DMAC to be honest. Trying to stay positive about the kid. Bush will most likely end of being the lead back anyway. 4.8 per carry last year…and big games the prior year. Just give him the ball. As for Fargas, good kid, fine….but he isn’t breaking the big run, he isn’t taking over a game….I’ve seen Bush do it a couple of times in his limited carries.
I am glad the Raiders weren’t STUPID enough to trade the kid last year.
To Lefty: What the “f’ is wrong with this franchise? Why do we keep attracting players that can’t stay healthy, in shape, motivated or whatever……why are we always talking about conditioning here? How does an overweight baffoon that doesn’t know the playbook and is doped up on Purple Drank be given the starting job?
I’ll tell you how. Al Davis has run a loose ship around here. If you are going to run a loose ship, then you need a bunch of “law abiding” veterans….or a strong no-nonsense 100% in charge head coach. We have had neither the last 7 years…and hence all this non-sense.
Hopefully guys like Campbell, Seymour, Asomugha and McClain can get the discipline more established around here and push everyone to be their best….hopefully Davis let’s his coaches run the camp and stay on these guys and run them through the Gauntlet to get them in shape and ready on week 1.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Quite honestly, we could have gone ahead with Bush and Fargas….maybe….but DMAC had that 40x…..hopefully he comes through
July 25th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
One of the many humorous things brought up on here is how Bush proved he is capable of carrying the team with a couple of very good games yet Gradkowski is doubted because he has only had a couple of very good games.BTW,before I hear all the negative comments,I believe JC is and should be the QB-just pointing out how sometimes fans have double standards for different players.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
2010-2011 NFL Predictions
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OAKLAND RAIDERS
Pre-season record:
Rookie who will win a starting spot sometime during the season(that wasn’t picked in top 3 rounds):
Regular season record:
Best offensive player:
Best defensive player:
Best rookie:
Most improved player:
Position for 2011 draft:
2010 Draft Disappointment:
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July 25th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Because he was the #1 pick in the draft and the draft is always a gamble.Unfortunately we lost that gamble.
July 25th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Lefty12,
As with Campbell, Michael Bush is the best player of the players on the roster at his position. That’s the issue.
This team has not been winning games…as you know…actually been playing some of the worst football in league history….the guys that were leading that charge had to go…and Davis has wisely broomed a lot of those plodding players right off the roster…many of which are now out of the league…..
As for Gradkowski, if he can play…he should EASILY beat out this journeyman QB from D.C…EASILY….
As for Bush…I look at the carries he gets throughout the season and there doesn’t seem to be a rhythm to the carries….15 carries one game and 5 for the next 4….yet he has put up numbers when he gets more than 10 carries (look it up).
All of that is in the past now….hopefully we can get to competitive this year!
July 25th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Because he was the #1 pick in the draft and the draft is always a gamble.Unfortunately we lost that gamble.
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But if he is drunk on “Purple Drank” not following the playbook, 30lbs overweight, getting scorn from coaches and players alike…skipping meetings…and all this in his 3rd year?
I think Al Davis will give the coaches more authority to run this team and roster this year….that’s my guess
July 25th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
35. “They had fullback Justin Griffith, who came over from the Atlanta Falcons following offensive line coach Tom Cable and Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp. They also had another rookie they were impressed with named Oren O’Neal and four year pro Luke Lawton.”
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Pretty sure Griffith was NOT a Raider when Lawton was brought on:
Griffith was waived along with Kwame Harris in Feb of 09′.
Lawton was claimed off waivers from the Eagles by the Oakland Raiders on August 26, 2009. He was waived on August 30, and re-signed on September 3.
Oakland was NOT impressed with Oren. He was wavied because he nver fully recovered from a devastating knee injury and was the reason we HAD to take perennial wash out Lawton who, BTW, sucks in a big way.
Who ever wrote that hunk of junk you quoted needs to do his homework fat Kidd
July 25th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Go Raiders! 1-0
July 25th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
And he was benched and then cut.What more do you think we could have done?Quit complaining about the bust-he is gone,just as he should be.End of chapter.BTW,you can thank the guy you hate so much for it happening-thanks Tom Cable!
July 25th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Lawton was claimed off waivers from the Eagles by the Oakland Raiders on August 26, 2009. He was waived on August 30, and re-signed on September 3.
……………………….EAGLES EAGLES NEVER WITH THE EAGLES TRY THE SEAHAWKS
July 25th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Lefty,
The JaDavis experience matters greatly if they don’t learn. Players getting into condition, being prepared and all that has to happen in camp.
If we are once again complaining about conditioning in week 4…then its the same ol, same ol.
I don’t have an opinion about the record this year…all I am looking for is competition. In camp and during the season. Will we compete this year…no more blowouts..bonehead penalties week after week..preparation…etc…
Will the team fight to the end? Will these “professional” athletes be in shape and prepared (regardless of the outcome of the game itself)….
If we see that this year from week 1 to week 16…then you will know we have turned the corner.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
As for Tom Cable…he was a terrible O.C.
Maybe now that he is focused on being head coach…he will do a better job.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Lefty,
Even when he is healthy, Dmac hasnt done anything for us. Dont me wrong…I want him to be successful for the sake of our season. We know Al Davis wants him to be successful too so he’s going to force Dmac on us. I just think he is not your typical primary back. It’s time we use him more as a receiving back rather than one that can pound it on first and 2nd downs.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Aig Says:
We know Al Davis wants him to be successful too so he’s going to force Dmac on us
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If this becomes the case…then that would suggest that Al hasn’t learned anything about the JaDavis debacle.
It has to be about the best players on the field and the coaches being given the freedom to exercise their judgement.
And for JFB, I would say that this would apply to the QB situation as well. If Gradkowski somehow were able to out duel Campbell…then Gradkowski should start….if DMAC is the bust that he has been to date…then Bush should get almost all of the carries.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
2010-2011 NFL Predictions
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OAKLAND RAIDERS
Pre-season record:3-1
Rookie who will win a starting spot sometime during the season(that wasn’t picked in top 3 rounds):Jeremy Ware
Regular season record:10-6
Best offensive player:BRIAN WESTBROOK
Best defensive player: KAMERON WIMBLEY
Best rookie:JACOBY FORD
Most improved player:MICHAEL BUSH
Position for 2011 draft:TRADE UP TO 1ST
2010 Draft Disappointment:ROLANDO MCCLAIN
July 25th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
DMAC is the least of our concerns. Everything revolves around stopping the run and the O-line performing at a higher level than they have since Cable arrived.
DMAC gets a pass for having to play with JaMeatball, O-line, Fargas, and Cable calling the plays. Having said that if he gets hurt in week 2 I’m done that mope!
The end.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Fat Runt, shut down your computer, you’re a copy & paste blog monkey.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
AIG,I just want him to start being productive in some capacity or else he too will be considered a huge bust.He has to be given every opportunity-he was drafted too high to give up on after 2 injury filled years.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
unlike another former first round draft choice (unnamed), McF does seem to care about his craft.
perhaps he himself or his homies or his baby mommas or his dogs will get on his case and urge him to make a juke move, hold onto the ball, not crumple into a heap at the first sign of contact or trip over the hashmark fantastic without any bit of resistance.
skinny legs and all, ain’t holdin’ my breath.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
SnB,
C’mon bro. I know you dont like to admit it but we all know Al Davis has his pets. The only reason why he cut Jawalrus was because of the big contract. he even tried to renegotiate and keep him on the roster.
I’m an Al Davis fan BUT I am well aware of his issues. It’s all about Al Davis’ image. We are stuck with Dmac being forced on us until Dmac do something stupid like Jawalrus.
You’ve already seen how they did an offseaon press relase on DHB even though it’s OTA and non-contact. You know it was Al Davis that released that press release. It was embarrassing as a Raider fan to see an offseason press release relating to performance in OTA’s.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Lefty,
For the sake of our (sanity) season, I hope that Dmac has a productive year. I still think he can be a huge asset for us coming out of the back field or lined up on the slot receiver position. I dont think most LB’s can keep up with him.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
aig Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Lefty,
For the sake of our (sanity) season, I hope that Dmac has a productive year. I still think he can be a huge asset for us coming out of the back field or lined up on the slot receiver position. I dont think most LB’s can keep up with him.
……………………..i was not high on dmac this year but since sistabrown dont like him i am coming around ,cause mistabrowns predictions and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee!!!
July 25th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I didn’t say I don’t like DMAC I said he gets a pass for having to play with Russell and the O-line. How you have a computer and 4th grade reading & writing level is beyond me.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
DMAC is the least of our concerns. Everything revolves around stopping the run and the O-line performing at a higher level than they have since Cable arrived.
DMAC gets a pass for having to play with JaMeatball, O-line, Fargas, and Cable calling the plays. Having said that if he gets hurt in week 2 I’m done that mope!
The end.
…………………..I’m done that mope!
The end.
…………………..I’M done that mope! its I”M done with that mope! you forgot the with like the width of your fat a$$.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
AIG,I for one am not making excuses for the guy,just pointing out that he seems to always have some nagging injury and that isn’t a good thing.If the guy can’t stay healthy,he can’t help the team and someone else has to play in his place.It is time for him to step up or be considered a HUGE bust.
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Seems strange to me to point out McFadden’s injuries a couple of camments after trumpeting Fargas…who had a long history of injuries.
This is football and player get injured. Just bad Raider luck that McFadden was injured early in his rookie season…really his first game with carries…and look what he was doing to KC before he injured himself…tearing them up.
But hopefully he can stay healthy…one more injury ridden season and we will have to move on, but that isn’t going to happen baby!!!!!
TD MCFADDENNNNNNNN!!!
July 25th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Careful Mistabrown,
Your excuses for Dmac are sounding like something from the liberals that you detest so much….lmao.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RIP Kaye Cowher….is that why Bill hasn’t been coaching the past few seasons?
Maybe we can take a run at him in 2011.
July 25th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Dakota,I didn’t ‘trumpet’ Fargas.I pointed out that the reason he HAD to be used was injuries to your boy and Bush asking out of games.If a team has 3 RBS, one is always injured,one asks out after limited carries and one is left,what is a coach supposed to do,play with no RB?
July 25th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Dakota Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RIP Kaye Cowher….is that why Bill hasn’t been coaching the past few seasons?
Maybe we can take a run at him in 2011.
………………………….Tom Cable wood have to be fired,you dont fire afc coach of the year!
July 25th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
And the Raiders don’t go after big named, overpaid coaches-and he knows it.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
people that hate lance kiffin list………………….AL Davis,jeff fischer,all of tennesee,mrs. kiffin,all of oakland,urban meyer,who did i miss.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
And the Raiders don’t go after big named, overpaid coaches-and he knows it.
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Hence no SB wins for 27 years….
July 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
They didn’t in the 1st 23 years either and they won 3 SBs and appeared in 4.But I forgot to you the didn’t exist in those days.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
BTW,how many big named coaches have changed teams and won SBs or even been successful?
July 25th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Eli Manning donates $1 million to Ole Miss
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 25, 2010 5:55 PM ET
Giants quarterback Eli Manning and his wife have given $1 million to an academic scholarship program at their alma mater, the University of Mississippi.
“Abby and I were drawn to this program of helping people who might not be able to attend college otherwise,” Manning said in a statement released by the university. “To us, it was a way of truly helping a lot of people.”
The program the Mannings are helping to finance will aid students who were already getting scholarships but struggling to pay for school after Ole Miss raised tuition by 6.5 percent this year.
Manning is one of a number of NFL players who have made significant contributions to their schools over the last year. Others include Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh, who pledged $2.6 million to Nebraska, Packers cornerback Charles Woodson, who gave $2 million to Michigan, and Vikings safety Madieu Williams, who gave $2 million to Maryland.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Jamarcus Russell donates 1 million to robitussin cough syrup!!
July 25th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Dakota,
Echo your sentiments regarding Kaye. Bill, not so much. First, he would never come to Oakland. Second, why would you want him? He’s just a glorified time out coordinator slash designated spitter/jaw jutter. Lebeau ran that D for 20 years. And Whizenhunt or Mularkey ran the O. How many years did it take Cowher to win his Super Bowl? He was on thin ice in Pitt for awhile, aftert hey missed the playoffs a couple of times.
I know you’re not fond of Cable. Give this guy a chance. I think he might be the perfect fit in Oakland. A unique situation, to say the least. I’m glad he is no longer calling the plays. I think Hue is gonna be a big upgrade.
I think the players like him and play hard for him. This year it’s going to show up in the standings,IMO. I think the Raiders are going to very competitive and surprise some people this year.
He goes 5-11 again, he’s gone and you won’t have to worry about him. But that’s not going to happen. We are all gonna be pleasantly surprised.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
They didn’t in the 1st 23 years either and they won 3 SBs and appeared in 4.But I forgot to you the didn’t exist in those days.
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LMAO….times have changed…throwing a bunch of raw talented players together with a crap HC and hoping for the best just doesn’t cut it anymore.
But what change can you really expect from a franchise that still utilizes overhead projectors, rotary phones and dot-matrix printers in their day to day operations?
July 25th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
I know you’re not fond of Cable. Give this guy a chance. I think he might be the perfect fit in Oakland. A unique situation, to say the least. I’m glad he is no longer calling the plays. I think Hue is gonna be a big upgrade…………………………….yeah what if cable does a randy hanson on hue !!!!!
July 25th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
“I know you’re not fond of Cable. Give this guy a chance.”
What? He had his chance….and he blew it and was demoted. But I can tolerate him in his new role as Timeout Coordinator for 2010…
July 25th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
If you don’t like the franchise so much move on-it is what it is.Surely when you talk about raw talented players you aren’t talking about McFadden.LMFAO.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Lefty12,
The situation of Bush being asked out of a game is way overdone. He asked out of 1 play where Bush ran 5x for 35yds on successive plays. THat’s the only time I’ve heard of him asking out.
Should he have asked out? Probably not. But let’s not make this out as he is asking out of plays every game or at every turn.
Bush only had 6 games with 10 carries or more anyway…so last year was pretty much the Fargas/McFadden show anyway.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
S&B-we don’t know how many times he asked out.It could have only happened once,it could have happened many times.We also don’t know what his attitude was like during the rest of the week.It really makes little difference now-he and McFalldown will be the main backs this year.As with the big bust-history-lets move on and support them.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Dakota is right. Cable was horrendous as an offensive coordinator. He was also terrible in setting the roster…wasting an entire season with Kwame Harris and cornell Greene….relegating Bush to mop up duty…trying to make a 300lbs JaDavis, who was in a Purple Drank Haze, into a Peyton Manning…….
Cable might be a good motivator and surely I hope he develops better game management skills. He also has fostered loyalty with the team. Hopefully he will demand excellence in training camp and hold people accountable..as far as X’s and O’s…leave that to the coordinators
July 25th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
S&B-we don’t know how many times he asked out.It could have only happened once,it could have happened many times.We also don’t know what his attitude was like during the rest of the week.It really makes little difference now-he and McFalldown will be the main backs this year.As with the big bust-history-lets move on and support them.
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I have no problem with what you said here. Although “McFalldown” might be a bit harsh…..DMAC did show some explosiveness…if he rekindles that…this team will be in very good shape
July 25th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Fat Runt when is the last time you left the house? I bet you are growing roots in that chair. Take a break from the retarded jokes and copy & pasting every stupid thing you find.
Thanks in advance!
July 25th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Shanahan: If Haynesworth won’t cooperate, we’ll go on without him
July 25, 2010 4:31 PM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said last week that he expects defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to do whatever the Redskins’ coaching staff tells him to do, whether that means playing nose tackle, defensive end or free safety.
But what if Haynesworth is uncooperative with the coaches when training camp opens?
In an interview that aired Sunday on ESPNews, Ed Werder asked Shanahan if he’s optimistic that Haynesworth will be cooperative with playing in the 3-4 scheme that the Redskins are installing.
“We’ll find out,” Shanahan answered. “We know how talented he is, we know what he’s done in the past, and I’m looking from the positive side that he comes in and does what he’s supposed to do. If not, we’ll go ahead without him.”
Shanahan has stated emphatically that Haynesworth will be traded. He will be put on the first bus to oakland But Shanahan’s comments to Werder suggest that the Redskins don’t think Haynesworth is a player they need to keep, especially if he’s not interested in doing what Shanahan and the staff tell him to do.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
I thought Davis always set the roster.Using Dakota’s reasoning-he had a chance and blew it- Parcells,B.Walsh,and J.Johnson would have all been fired after their 1st year as head coaches and Belicheat would have never gotten another gig after Clev.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
If you don’t like the franchise so much move on-it is what it is.Surely when you talk about raw talented players you aren’t talking about McFadden.LMFAO.
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I love the franchise…that is why it hurts to see it dwindling to irrelevancy under Al Davis.
In the business world, once a CEO builds a company up, it does not mean that his shareholders will not object to him when he moves past his prime and begins to hurt the company…fans are the shareholders of sports teams, and I object to the way Al is ruining the franchise because I know full well the Raiders are more than just one man.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
SnB,
Now that the Raiders have a QB capable of completing 60%+, I don’t think there will be as many three and outs. Couple that with an improved runD (hopefully) that gets the ball back, and there ought to be alot more carries for everybody. The Raiders are gonna get back to pounding that rock.
To that extent, I’ve been thinking about this. That raw block of clay–the physical phenom Bruce Campbell. If he is too raw to supplant aging C Carlisle at RG. I think he will have a big role in the O. That look they used Pears in with some success. As an extra tackle, eligible. An unbalanced line. I wanna see that freak leading Dmac on some sweeps. And opening some holes for Bush in the red zone.
Damn, I can’t wait for this season to start.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Fat Runt when is the last time you left the house? I bet you are growing roots in that chair. Take a break from the retarded jokes and copy & pasting every stupid thing you find.
Thanks in advance……………………….sistabrown your teabagger buddies are outside yelling sistabrown come out and play!!!!!
July 25th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
SO back to original question-how many successful HCs have won SBs after they went to another team?Never mind-later guys.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
I should have said big name coaches.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Thanks for the Redskins update Fat Tard we’ve been on the edge of our seats for that!
July 25th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Lol, even Belichick’s 36-44 record in Cleveland looks golden compared to Tom Cable’s 20-54 career coaching record….this guy has shown NOTHING as a HC.
And Cable improved the team’s record by very little in his second season…Parcell’s team improved by 6 games his second season…and Walsh improved the 49ers by 4 games his second season.
Cable has only proven one thing in all his years of being a HC….that he can’t.
July 25th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Buckeyeraider,
I think we have to keep things tempered when it comes to rookies. Hopefully Campbell takes to the offense quickly enough to contribute.
But if he doesn’t, forcing him in the lineup would be bad for his development. Bring him along.
If they can find some creative opportunities for him, that’s great…but creative opportunities are not what’s going to make this season successfull….it will be executing the basic playbook
July 25th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
J. Johnson….six game improvement his second year…
Cable???….not so much…
July 25th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Lefty,
Tony Dungy
Jon Gruden
Tom Coughlin
Bill Belichek
Dick Vermeil
And that’s just the last 10 years
July 25th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I think Dick Vermeil did okay in St. Louis…Gruden won a SB after success in Oakland…Dungy did okay in Indy after TB…
July 25th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
SO back to original question-how many successful HCs have won SBs after they went to another team?Never mind-later guys
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Lefty,
Tony Dungy
Jon Gruden
Tom Coughlin
Bill Belichek
Dick Vermeil
And that’s just the last 10 years
July 25th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Oh, SnB already nailed it!
July 25th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Cable had to manage the biggest bust of a Qb we’ve ever seen. He had no chance to succeed. He will either sink or swim in his second full year. Comparing him to Walsh or J Johnson is like teaching Fat Kidd to not bite his own toe nails. A waste of time…
July 25th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
don’t need a big name HC….I just need a HC with some potential…Cable only has the potential to be a decent o-line coach.
Kiffin had potential
Sean Peyton had potential
Weisenhunt had potential
Gruden had potential
I’ll give Al one thing, he can spot those young guys with potential…he has simply destroyed the franchise’s credibility to the point where he can no longer trick them into signing on with us….therefore he must step down.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Dungy,Gruden,Coughlin,Vermeil-none of them WON SBs with their PREVIOUS teams.Belicheat wasn’t successful in Clev.
How Many SBs did Lombardi win in Wash;Parcells in NE.,NYJ.,Dal.;Johnson in Mia.How did Walsh do when he went back to Stanford.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
SO back to original question-how many successful HCs have won SBs after they went to another team?Never mind-later guys
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Just for kicks…these coaches took their 2nd team to the S.B but lost
Bill Belichek
Mike Holmgren
Dick Vermeil
Bill Parcells
Dan Reeves
Marv Levy
July 25th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Dungy,Gruden,Coughlin,Vermeil-none of them WON SBs with their PREVIOUS teams.Belicheat wasn’t successful in Clev.
How Many SBs did Lombardi win in Wash;Parcells in NE.,NYJ.,Dal.;Johnson in Mia.How did Walsh do when he went back to Stanford.
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Who cares? No one said we have to have a former SB winning coach come to us….just a competent HC.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Dungy,Gruden,Coughlin,Vermeil-none of them WON SBs with their PREVIOUS teams.Belicheat wasn’t successful in Clev.
How Many SBs did Lombardi win in Wash;Parcells in NE.,NYJ.,Dal.;Johnson in Mia.How did Walsh do when he went back to Stanford.
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You asked how many coaches won a SB on their 2nd team? I don’t know if you directed that at me or not…but that’s how I interpreted your question
July 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
If you dropped JaMarcus Russell in the lap of Walsh or J Johnson they would either resign or sabotage their job just to get out.
Just like Kiffin did..
Cable is a meathead but he hasnt been put in a position to win until this year coming up!
July 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
As with you being wrong in proclaiming McFadden a great player,you don’t know what Cable is capable of.He did much better once HE talked Davis into getting rid of the bust.Am I glad we hired an OC-hell yes.Is Cable a failure-unknown as he was saddled with the bust for his first 1 1/2 yrs as HC.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
D Haren to the FK’n Angels.
Billy Beane is a monster kunt!
July 25th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I was talking to Dakota,S&B.He is always on here biotching because we won’t go after a former SB winning HC-along with anything else Raider related.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
If you dropped JaMarcus Russell in the lap of Walsh or J Johnson they would either resign or sabotage their job just to get out.
Just like Kiffin did..
Cable is a meathead but he hasnt been put in a position to win until this year coming up!
………………………………………………..Mistsbrown Pretend your computer’s mouse is a CB radio, and talk to it.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Dakota likes riding Cable like a shetland pony, makes him feel like the Dom in the relationship.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Sorry but Kitten HAD NO POTENTIALS. All he did was talk and continue to make excuses.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
“As with you being wrong in proclaiming McFadden a great player”
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We’ll just see about that….and players who suffer injuries get a pass, at least for a while…coaches that continually prove their incompetence do not. One smart move in benching Russell does not earn him a pass on everything else he has failed on…sorry. Any coach would have made that call…giving Cable credit for that decision is like patting someone on the back for making the easiest decision of their life.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
No doubt this will be the make it or break it year for Cable. I think he will succeed. Get him away from the OC position was good for Al.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I was talking to Dakota,S&B.He is always on here biotching because we won’t go after a former SB winning HC-along with anything else Raider related.
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LMAO….better than being a little excuse making doormat fan like yourself.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
What are “potentials” ?
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aig Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Sorry but Kitten HAD NO POTENTIALS
July 25th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
the decision was easy.Do you honestly believe convincing Davis was also easy?Knowing what needs to be done and doing it as a Raider HC are entirely different things.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Dakota,
you are skirting the question. When McFumble is IRed/benched for inadequacy do you have a permanent place for him as a mannequin outside of the pawn shop come heat or snow that you can use as admonition for Long Worthy to “not believe the hype”.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
At least I am a Raider fan-unlike you.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I was talking to Dakota,S&B.He is always on here biotching because we won’t go after a former SB winning HC-along with anything else Raider related.
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What is really funny is that Lefty, in his heart of hearts, knows Al is a POS GM, as evidenced by these comments…..but he is a doormat fan so he acts all loyal lol:
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
i give up-obviously the team has.
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
it is disheartening watching other teams pick FOOTBALL players and we get laughed at on all the networks-and rightfully so i might add.
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
thank god we only have 4 more picks.that way we only have to look like fools 4 more times THIS draft.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
At least I am a Raider fan-unlike you.
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You are the little Silver and Black doormat sitting outside of Al’s office bathroom is what you are. You suck up all the pee on Al’s slippers when he goes back to his desk.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
DMAC is the least of our concerns. Everything revolves around stopping the run and the O-line performing at a higher level than they have since Cable arrived.
DMAC gets a pass for having to play with JaMeatball, O-line, Fargas, and Cable calling the plays. Having said that if he gets hurt in week 2 I’m done that mope……………………………………..
I see the wheel is spinning, but the hamster looks dead
July 25th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
You know,Dakota,San Diego is only a short distance from your beloved LA,why not go root or should I say constantly biotch -since you seem to think it’s the same thing-for them?After all,you’d have plenty of ammo with all their SB wins.
Ya,I made the above comments-all in a state of anger within 30 minutes.But the funny thing is with Cable seemly more involved this year,we did take football players,we weren’t laughed at,and we didn’t look like fools
July 25th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Funny how Dmac gets excuses and passes for lack of production yet the coach that depends on him doesnt. Strange world we live in that’s for sure.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Its all about “potentials”
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# aig Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Funny how Dmac gets excuses and passes for lack of production yet the coach that depends on him doesnt. Strange world we live in that’s for sure.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
AIG,you can add the ineptness of the huge bust to that statement.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Sorry Lefty, I don’t take advice from Al Davis excuse making doormats like yourself. You go right ahead and remain content with losing and mind your own business…hey watch out! Al has some TP on his heal! Oh, I forgot, you love that schyt….
July 25th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Brownie,
So what “potentials” has Dmac shown so far for you to make excuses for him. Oh yeah, 1 game against KC in 2 years.
If you want to use that logic, then we should crown Bruce Gradkowski an all pro then. He played in 3 games and won 2 of them. Both against tough teams and not floormat KC. That’s one more than Dmac.
Nice logic you got there.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
*heel*
July 25th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Baltimore Ravens Rookie Sergio Kindle Hospitalized
7/25/2010 5:34 PM ET By FanHouse Staff
Baltimore Ravens rookie Sergio Kindle has been hospitalized after sustaining a head injury. He is in stable condition.
The Ravens’ first pick in the 2010 draft fell down two flights of stairs at a home he was visiting in Austin, Texas, according to information released by the team on Sunday.
Kindle, the University of Texas product, is being treated at University Medical Center Brackenridge in Austin and will be unable to report to training camp with the rest of the Ravens’ rookies on Monday.
The Ravens’ medical staff is in touch with doctors in Texas regarding Kindle’s condition. It is not clear at this point when he will join the team at camp.
Kindle had six tackles and 2 1/2 sacks in last winter’s national championship game.
Kindle, a second-round pick, was arrested in 2007 for driving while intoxicated, along with Texas teammate Henry Melton. Both players were suspended for three games.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Lefty,
i hear ya. To me I think fair is fair. People make excuses for Dmac but blast the coach that depended on his and Jawalrus’ productions. All I am saying is this year will make or break a lot people from the HC down.
I can guarantee you even Bill Walsh cannot win with Jawalrus at the helm. Knowing what we know now, I am shocked that we even produced a few wins with Jawalrus at the helm.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
I must have missed your answer Dakota.How many SB winning HCs have gone to a different team and won another SB?
July 25th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
I must have missed your answer Dakota.How many SB winning HCs have gone to a different team and won another SB?
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Once again for the slow guy…..I never said we need a former SB winning HC to come to Oakland….just a competent HC…so why do I give a schyt about your retarded question? Just because I mentioned Bill Cowher doesn’t mean I think we have to have a former SB winning coach.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I’ll take big name, overpaid HC (doesn’t have to even have a SB on his resume) over incompetent, unqualified (Cable) HC every day of the week.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Supper time…later Lefty…and a word of advice…try and keep those true and repressed feelings under wrap…they really interfere with your goal of being the biggest doormat fan in the Raider Nation.
July 25th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
You have mentioned Cowher,Bellick,the rat,Parcells,and Gruden in the past.Haven’t they all won SBs?How does one know if a coach is capable without giving one the opportunity?And being forced to coach a team with busts like the QB and RB we have recently drafted that isn’t a fair opportunity.But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Once more before I go….this is the best one…
lefty12 Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
i give up-obviously the team has.
LMAO…Lefty hated Al Davis in that moment more than I probably ever have…I just shook my head in disbelief that day…Lefty was once again betrayed by his hero. Sad, and yet funny as hell.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Contrary to what some on here think, DMAC is not a total bust. I just think he hasn’t been used correctly. I don’t believe he will ever be a between the tackles RB. His lower end isn’t and he’s not built to bang. He’s built for speed. That means sweeps, swing passes and lining up in the slot for passes. Compare his skill set to those of Reggie Bush with the exception the up the middle is not one of his strengths. Given that, he can still be a major weapon. Hue Jackson just needs to play to his strengths and not that we have a QB that can throw an accurate touch pass we might see DMAC playing a bigger role in the offense.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Keep trying young man.BTW,how are your Chargers doing protecting all those Lombardi trophies?
July 25th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
JB,
4th in the draft. 800 yds rushing in two years. As many fumbles as TDs. More self-tackles than imagineable.
Blame? No one. If the kid can’t do it then he just can’t do it.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Most would say that Reggie Bush has been a major disappointment, so saying we should use Darren like Bush still means we aren’t getting great value out of the #4 pick.
Truth be told, Bush was more highly regarded coming out than Darren, but nevertheless, whatever position you draft at #4, he shouldn’t have these type of holes in his game.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
JFB,
It is what it is. DMAC ran that 40x…that meant he was a Raider…and before people slam me for that overused cliche…we all know its basically true. So let’s see what DMAC can do. He has been misused over the time he’s been here…even when healthy.
I also hope people give this team a chance. Let’s remember that the Raiders are pulling together a lot of new pieces that have never played together. Its rarely as smooth as one would think. I am evaluating this year on four things:
1. Preparation: we should not hear about gap discipline, route running, reads etc
2. Discipline: No more stupid penalties
3. Competition: Are they in MOST of the games they play…no more blowouts ala the Jets & Giants games
4. Coaching: Does it appear they are using the roster correctly…no more Bush getting only 5 gms with 10 carries or more…or force feeding underperforming players like DHB last year or Harris the year before. Play people that are performing
July 25th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Damn,
The last hour or so of NFLN has been a horror show for a Raider fan. Season highlight films of the 2000 Ravens, 2001 Patriots and now the 2002 Bucs. Ouch.
The Goose, The Tuck and the Revenge of Chuckie.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
This year, the Raiders have No. 1 pick Rolando McClain to patrol the middle (If he signs), and they’ve added veteran tacklers Kamerion Wimbley, John Henderson and others to try to halt the run-defense demolition.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I’m with you 100% SnB.
I will say that there will be blowouts, there almost always is a few for any team. I will take a 8-8 season with a few shytty games, over a 6-10 team that had a bunch of close losses.
Play dictates the penalties. Maybe not the stupid ones, but were we really holding less, offensively and defensively, in our 00-02 years? I think it is more of a product of your record with those types of calls.
This may be our most meaningful preseason in many years, with all the youngsters. What was the point of preseason last year, when Jamarcus was going to start, as we learned, even if he went on drugs and skipped meetings?
July 25th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
The Tuck………I will never get over that one.
The point of instant replay wasn’t to overturn a call with a rule that was so vague, and it was not irrefutiable video evidence.
Complete sham.
July 25th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Pain McClain is going to be the best Raider draft pick in quite some time.
I’m feeling this kid. Will be the best defensive player in the AFC West for 10 years.
Book it.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
This is painful to watch. Callahan killed me. I guess you dance with the girl ya brung. And by that time the Raiders were predominantly a passing team. But I thought he would cross them up, and turn back the clock.
A couple of years before, Gruden’s Raiders gave the playoff bound bucs a 42-0 beatdown, where Wheatly and Kaufman ran for 200+. It was pretty much the same cast of characters too. Sapp, Brooks and Lynch.
I thought the Raiders would take a page out of the ol playbook. Nope. Callahan played it right into Chuckies hands and came out winging. No huddle. Lynch is calling out Raider plays at the line of scrimmage. Damn.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Vegas,
I like everything I’m hearing about that kid. This kid sounds intelligent, instinctive and a natural leader. A real student of the game. Sounds like he is going to know his assignments and make sure everybody else is in the right place too.
Plus, ya gotta love his size. He’s a big dude. I noticed that watching the SEC and Nat’l championship games. Guy’s thick in the lower body..big legs. Looks like he can anchor, and take on lead blocks..shut down those inside running lanes.
Another one I can’t wait to see in action in a few weeks.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I never watched the SB after the actual date, until I mentioned it and my wife bought me the SB game on DVD (albeit the Bucs version with Alstott on the cover).
Man we dominated that first quarter. First possession, Upshaw levels Johnson and C-Wood gets a pick. We settle for 3. A couple of series later, Rod Woodson does what he never did, and drops a pick that would have more than likely been a pick 6. Timmy dropped a potential first down near midfield, when it was still 3-0.
Than the proverbial wheels just fell right off.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
McClain just turned 21 too Buck. Kind of has a long skinny neck right now.
He will probably add a good 5 pounds that won’t affect his athleticism what-so-ever.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
152. Too brutal…destroyed Gannon’s remarkable legacy. He was the best player in the NFL for a couple years of that run…
July 25th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
McClain just turned 21 too Buck. Kind of has a long skinny neck right now.
He will probably add a good 5 pounds that won’t affect his athleticism what-so-ever.
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Groves 6-3, 265, McClain 6-3, 255, Kam Wimbley 6-3 255
July 25th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Nnamdi,
don’t forget Scott. He’s a big boy too. I think he’s going to make a nice OLB. A lot of people wanted to compare him to the failed Tyler Brayton experiment. But Scott looks much more comfortable playing in space than Brayton ever did. I guess he was even a TE at U of Buffalo before converting to TE. So he should have decent hands.(maybe not great or he wouldn’t have been converted).
And the thing about Scott, and Groves and even Wembley, is they can all move to DE in pass rushing situations. They are all versatile. Can give multiple looks and fronts.
That is what I expect out of Marshall’s D this year, versatile, agile, mobile and hostile. They are gonna bring it.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
The big question mark supposedly is our LB’s ability to cover TE/RB’s.
But really isn’t that a question mark for most teams? That is what ALL teams try to do, get a play-maker isolated on a LB. Now granted some teams don’t get burnt as much as others in this area, but I think it is tad overblown. Not like having Morrison and Howard covering LB’s and TE’s were the key to our success as a defense.
July 25th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Lil missy just got home from work. It’s been fun.
Back to work tomorrow.
G’night fellas.
July 25th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Well, on paper, we had the best offseason since the 1988 draft when we got Tim Brown, Terry McDaniel, and Scott Davis. Even in the Gruden days, we were not drafting well. It will be interesting to see how all these things fall out.
July 25th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
2010-2011 NFL Predictions
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OAKLAND RAIDERS
Pre-season record:
Rookie who will win a starting spot sometime during the season(that wasn’t picked in top 3 rounds):
Regular season record: 10-6
Best offensive player: Bush (although I think it’ll be a team effort with JC, McFadden, Miller, and the WRs all contributing just about on par with Bush as well).
Best defensive player: obvious choice: Nnamdi; less obvious: Huff or Chris Johnson
Best rookie: Lamaar Houston
Most improved player: DHB
Position for 2011 draft: o-line
2010 Draft Disappointment: None.
July 25th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
The big question mark supposedly is our LB’s ability to cover TE/RB’s.
But really isn’t that a question mark for most teams? That is what ALL teams try to do, get a play-maker isolated on a LB. Now granted some teams don’t get burnt as much as others in this area, but I think it is tad overblown. Not like having Morrison and Howard covering LB’s and TE’s were the key to our success as a defense.
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The threat we aquired Howard and Morrison to counter are gone. Gonzales and Scheffler are out of the divison. Only Gates remains.
The bigger threat would seem to be from division running backs Ryan Mathews with SD,Knowshon in Denver, and Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles in KC.
Raider fans should be pleasntly surprised by Kam Wimbley.
July 25th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Forgot the first one, Bruce Campbell.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
McFadden &ucks.
He’s a better receiver than he is a runner.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
# Kirk Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
McFadden sucks.
He’s a better receiver than he is a runner.
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Based on what we’ve seen so far, you are 100% correct. So, let just make him the slot WR and get on with the season.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
all our fears of raiders linebackers stopping the pass are true. only guy out there that can run wit anybody is thomas howard , better keep him . this is thge same problem the cleveland browns have had . big stupid linebackers that cant cover
July 25th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
only way this defense can work is if the ends get pressure and if the team decides to finally blitz… but this will mean the safeties will have to STAY BACK ! hmmm ???
July 25th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
all in all . a really talented squad . if scary azz jason campbell will take off and run sumtimes and thro wthe deep ball more than one time a game .and if hue jackson throws in sum h/b passes and rb screens in the offense , and if at least one d. end plays great .. and if one raider reciever becomes a go to guy
July 25th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
and if the suspect azz o – line doesnt fall apart .. . yeah .. might .. just might go to he playoffs
July 25th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
so yeah ,, its 12:27 here in memphis tenn. and im goin to bed.. nighty night fellow future therapy members and sleepin pill addicts
July 25th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Does Jason Campbell Have the Tools To Be Great?
By danny o’connor (Correspondent) on July 22, 2010
He has the potential
Many Raiders fans believe that Jason Campbell is the man for the job of leading the Raiders’ return to glory. Some fans have been slow to believe the hype surrounding the trade.
One thing for sure is that Campbell will be tested when the Raiders open training camp on Wednesday. He will have live pass rush and his receivers will be involved with contact.
Until training camp opens, we have to look at Campbell himself to see how good he is or how good he can be. I have listed some skills that make a great quarterback and I have evaluated Campbell in these areas.
Work Ethic
One thing for sure is that if a quarterback doesn’t put in the time to learn the offense, he can’t lead it. Look at Oakland’s previous quarterback to see what happens when a quarterback takes Tuesday off.
Campbell is a very hard worker. Along with his work ethic, he is a class act. Despite all the harassment he took in Washington, he never shot back or took the low road.
Expect his work ethic to increase now that he has a chip on his shoulder from being replaced by Donovan McNabb.
Decision Making
This may not be very important because Brett Favre is a great quarterback and look at his decision making. All jokes aside though, this is a much needed skill for a quarterback to guide his team down the field to put points up on the board.
One critique of Campbell is that he checks down too much as opposed to going for more yards.
In Oakland, his check down may be the better option. His check down options will be Zach Miller, Darren McFadden and/or Michael Bush. But if DHB can truly catch the ball, then let’s air it out.
Footwork
Quarterback’s need to have mobility to escape the pass rush, especially when they have a poor offensive line. Unfortunately, Oakland’s offensive line doesn’t look much improved for 2010.
One of the stories I heard from the Raiders minicamp right after the draft was that Campbell appeared to be much more mobile than expected. He was able to run bootlegs nicely. One of the reasons Gradkowski and Frye had some success in the Raiders offense was their mobility. This will be vital to J.C. surviving long enough to show his other skills.
Leadership
A quarterback must be able to rally his team. Look at how much better the Raiders played with a fierce Bruce Gradkowski opposed to a laid back JaMarcus Russell. Look around the NFL and you won’t see many quiet quarterbacks on successful teams.
After OTAs, Louis Murphy said that Jason Campbell was taking charge in the huddle. Campbell was criticized for lacking leadership in Washington so time will tell who is right and wrong.
Supporting Cast
This is out of Campbell’s control but it is still very important. Don’t believe me? Ask Matt Cassell how much teammates effect the success of the team.
I think Campbell will bring out the best in the Raiders young wide receivers who now have a quarterback who will hit them in the hands and not overthrow constantly. Zach Miller is a fine young tight end so the only question mark is the offensive line.
Arm Strength and Accuracy
Any quarterback who wants to reach the NFL has to be able to throw the ball somewhat deep and with pinpoint accuracy.
Campbell has the accuracy to be great with his completion percentage at 64 last year. He has improved every year statistically in the NFL. He is expected to be even better in Oakland’s vertical favored offense.
If Campbell can hit his speedsters on the outside with the long ball then the Raiders will be a threat to score on every play.
July 26th, 2010 at 2:52 am
Dakota…
I read you spat with Lefty12…
I hear you, we need a coach with potential, problem is no-one with potential will ever go work in Oakland as long Al Davis is in charge…
Lefty12… you know it, we know you know it, so just stop all that “im a fan you’re not” cr4p, you know we are fans, we want to win, but we wont win before the entire organization has been fixed, that means that all the henchmen like Herrera has been cleaned out, Al is on Retired and on pension… then we once again will be the franchise Al once made great…
…An analogy… to great soccer clubs here in Denmark. Mine Brøndby and the other is FCK… both clubs made by great stubborn men with a vision… mine club is in demise and have been for a few years, FCK just last year began to suck, mine club is the one with the tradition and FCK is the new cat on the block… our CEO claws him to the top of totempole to stay in power… FCK’s shareholders fired their boss and maker of club..
the club that will reap success in the future??? obviously FCK (dammit) Brøndby is like the Raiders, FCK is like the Jets…
July 26th, 2010 at 4:41 am
[...] Oakland Raiders running back Darren McFadden needs to be more than a “Mr. August”. [...]
July 26th, 2010 at 5:05 am
No Russell,Fargas,Morrison I’m ready for the Season can’t wait to see the new D!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 26th, 2010 at 5:39 am
mcfadden is as soft as butter. sure an oline wold help but that has nothing to do with him going down no matter touched him and no matter how hard
July 26th, 2010 at 5:46 am
One critique of Campbell is that he checks down too much as opposed to going for more yards.
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This has been the biggest critique of his game. Reading comments sections on PFT and Redskins blog, ‘Skins fans constantly railed on this.
Could lead to why he has such a high completion %, decent stats, but not many points or wins.
Although a guy who is skilled in the checkdown will be a welcome relief to our backs. Russell was especially pathetic in this area.
July 26th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Soon, my friends, soon…football season is upon us!
July 26th, 2010 at 6:21 am
players report to Alameda tomorrow … is Lamarr Houston signed yet ???
camp begins Thursday
July 26th, 2010 at 6:31 am
is Lamarr Houston signed yet ???
camp begins Thursday
Shoot, is McClain signed yet? We need everyone in camp ontime!
July 26th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Good Morning Rockstar, JFB, NMF…
July 26th, 2010 at 6:37 am
IF MCCLAIN IS NOT IN ON TIME, I CAN FILL IN AT LB.I DO HAVE TROUBLE GOING TO MY LEFT THOUGH…
July 26th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Wassupp Dirt Lot…
Do you still have my e-mail? I haven’t checked it in awhile…are you going to the Niner pre-season?
July 26th, 2010 at 6:50 am
HEY HWNRDR,PLAN ON ATTENDING 49ER PRE-SSV GAME,HAVE MISPLACED YOUR E-MAIL THOUGH,SORRY.
July 26th, 2010 at 6:52 am
durbshot@comcast.net
They haven’t changed the time of tailgating yet, right? Its still 5 hrs prior to game time, right?
July 26th, 2010 at 6:57 am
NO CHANGES,STILL FULL 5 HRS.THANKS HWNRDR.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Morning Nation
July 26th, 2010 at 7:04 am
I don’t think McFadden is an every down back but I do think used similar to the way the Saints learned to set up Reggie Bush can help his game out. I know the smart Raider fan’s out there realize that in theory that sounds great but we don’t have a Drew Breeze like QB to get him the ball in space(s). Having Campbell on the team now who is more percise and can make those screen passes and short touch passes will help Mcfadden and the offense big time!
Now McFadden does still go down to easy and to often but so did Bush his first couple of years. Give McFadden space to use his speed to get some steam before he trys to run someone over or run around them.
Both McFadden and Bush should benefit from a better passing game (both can catch outstanding for a RB out of the backfield), O-line play (hopefully they stay healthy) and a QB that can put the ball in spaces to help them make plays.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:05 am
M Lonetree Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am
BoSJack,
no worries sir. there’s a permanent place readied for McFumble outside of a Hot Springs, SD pawn shop where he stand through heat and sleet like a cigar store figurine with a football superglued to his hand and an iron framework that’ll hold him always upright. problem solved.
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LMAO!
July 26th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Trade DMac for superglue!
July 26th, 2010 at 7:12 am
McFadden doesnt do the things Bush does though, like dive from the 8 yard line and reach for the pylon… Dont think Campbell is going to make him that electrifying
July 26th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Darren had a 3.4 YPC last year, fumbled more than Fargas and Bush combined, and has missed one game for every 4 in his career.
Any skepticism is warranted, and any excuses and optimism is unfounded.
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Well put Vegas.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:20 am
DMAC: 1500 all purpose yards & 10 TD’s this year (800 rush, 700 rec)
Bush: 1300 all purpose yards & 8 TD’s this year (1000 rush, 300 rec)
Raiders running game = top notch this year
Print That, haters …
July 26th, 2010 at 7:23 am
aig Says:
July 25th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Funny how Dmac gets excuses and passes for lack of production yet the coach that depends on him doesnt. Strange world we live in that’s for sure.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
July 26th, 2010 at 7:24 am
McFadden showed lightning burst, with the ability to instantly pull away and outrun angles. He looked impossible to beat to the perimeter. Wasn’t bad inside, either. His pass receiving skills were off the charts _ he had better hands than most of the wideouts and in fact one member of the Raiders organization was convinced that if he was put at that position, he’d be the best pass catcher on the team.
Add to the mix that McFadden always had a smile on his face, loved to work hard, and any character concerns which came after a couple of family-related incidents in Arkansas seemed to be a joke.
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all this stuff still applies. DMAC = stud
RUE THE DAY, haters …
July 26th, 2010 at 7:27 am
I dont hate on DMAC… I just dont believe in him yet. I havent given up like a lot of people here have, but I just dont see him getting it done. I hope that #20 proves me wrong but until then hes just Jamarcus with a zero on the end
July 26th, 2010 at 7:32 am
I hope that #20 proves me wrong but until then hes just Jamarcus with a zero on the end
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McFadden is nothing like Russell
DMC has been playing hurt. JR has been playing with a belly full of sizzurp
The End
July 26th, 2010 at 7:34 am
He is very much like Jamarcus in production relative to draft position/salary… hence the JOKE referring to the similarities in their numbers. Since when did you become such a staunch McFadden supporter
July 26th, 2010 at 7:35 am
I don’t understand how anybody who claims to be a Raider fan could root for a Top 10 draft pick to bust
I don’t see the logic in that …
we haven’t seen enough of a healthy DMC with a competent play caller and QB to judge him yet. He deserves AT LEAST one more season
July 26th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Since when did you become such a staunch McFadden supporter
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since he was drafted
July 26th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Whos rooting for him to fail? I surely am not!
July 26th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Just like NMF calling Heyward-Bey “DudleyHB”
I don’t think thats accurate or appropriate.
How does it look when one 1st round pick after another busts out? terrible. that doesn’t lead to success or add to team chemistry. recipe for disaster
I’m hoping that these young kids like DHB & DMC start to pick it up in Years #2 & #3 and produce on the football field
can they still flop? sure
but I think they deserve every opportunity and they deserve the fans support until it’s a known fact that they’ll never amount to anything with any team in this league (example: JaWalrus)
July 26th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I hope that #20 proves me wrong but until then hes just Jamarcus with a zero on the end
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A very intelligent analysis
July 26th, 2010 at 7:44 am
BCZ: by the way, i’m not trying to single you out here
I’m talking to all the haters
I know you’re a stand up guy, from other convo’s we’ve had in here
BBL
July 26th, 2010 at 7:45 am
RR
I have to agree with you on that one. What is with the RUssel hang over on all firs t round Raider picks? Tiki Barbar fumbled the ball a whole lot before he turned his game around. Petterson very productive but could he have put the ball on the ground anymore then he did in the playoffs? He had flashes on the field now it is time to put the whole package together. He may be a bust but I want to cheer him on before I call him a bust! I still thin Dmac and Bush can be effective together. Because our passing game has been so bad all our opponents have had to do is play run first.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Peterson will always have more fumbles than other running backs. Its a product of the fact that he is the most violent and physical running back in the game. The guy runs like a Mack truck carrying the ball.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Here is my camp question. How come the Raiders put the shield on on the shoulder/sleeve of practice jerseys but not game jerseys? I wish our game jerseys had that.
July 26th, 2010 at 7:52 am
He does run like a mack truck but you still can’t put the ball on the ground it kills a drive. Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Eric Dickerson, Marshall Faulk were pretty good RBs as well, but they did not put the ball on the ground that often. Rule #1 pony football: protect the ball!
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bcz24 Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Peterson will always have more fumbles than other running backs. Its a product of the fact that he is the most violent and physical running back in the game. The guy runs like a Mack truck carrying the ball.
July 26th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Agreed CJ. Im explaining it not justifying it.
July 26th, 2010 at 8:21 am
I hope that #20 proves me wrong but until then hes just Jamarcus with a zero on the end
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disagree 1000% percent….
BRL <——- zero work ethic, not dedicated to te game syrup head….
DMAC <——- Great work ethic, beset by injuries, womanizer…
It was reported on this blog by ROG way before it hit the news, even before Jerry Springer brought it up that BRL was a syrup head, and he hung out alot in diffrent hoods no less.
What haa anyone heard or said about DMAC outside of the fact he likes woman???
July 26th, 2010 at 8:22 am
ALL of the DMAC is a bust talk is utter nonsense….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:23 am
For the last time it was a JOKE!
July 26th, 2010 at 8:25 am
NBA News -
Rasual Butler will be back with the Clippers
Tim Thomas looking to tag along with Mavs again
Tracy McGrady nearing deal with Bulls
Stephon Marbury “Heck yea I’d play in Miami”
July 26th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I am well aware that DMAC is NOT a junkie. He is NOT fat. He is NOT lazy.
However. He has NOT produced anything close to what a #4 overall pick should produce.
I would like to see #20 pack a few pounds on like Felix Jones has this offseason. Maybe he could stay up after first contact…
July 26th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I never wanted DMAC, however to lable him a bust is utter nonsense… To say he is the same as BRL is even more redic….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Rivers on McNeill, Jackson: We want them, but don’t need them
Posted by Michael David Smith (PFT)
Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers’ stance on the absent wide receiver Vincent Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill is simple: He wants them on his offense, but thinks the Chargers can win without them.
“Those are two key guys on our offense,” Rivers told the San Diego Union-Tribune. “I don’t think there’s any way you can say we’re not better with them. We want to have them. But at the same time, can you still get it done without them? The answer is ‘Yes.’”
Rivers said he just hopes the Chargers don’t spend too much time and energy focusing on the people who aren’t there, at the expense of the people who are there.
“The biggest thing that can be a negative in the next four weeks is if guys get caught up in talking about when Marcus or Vincent or [Shawne] Merriman is coming every day,” Rivers said. “It’s the only thing that can keep us from having a great training camp.”
Still, Rivers knows he’s going to be asked about the absence of the team’s high-profile restricted free agents. He told reporters, “It’s what I’d ask about too.”
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Lots of turmoil brewing in SD. I love it! haha
July 26th, 2010 at 8:30 am
I never wanted DMAC, however to lable him a bust is utter nonsense… To say he is the same as BRL is even more redic….
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Agreed 100 percent Thec
July 26th, 2010 at 8:30 am
bcz24 Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:26 am
However. He has NOT produced anything close to what a #4 overall pick should produce.
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Lets see how he does playing a whole season without injury, and with Hue Jack calling plays….
I will give him that much, If he doesnt step up this year….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:32 am
RR, The dis-charger fans down here are in denial…
they also think they can win, was talking to one of the delusional, he was saying chargers go 14-2… wilt tra thomas at LT, and no VJack….ROFLMAO….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Also of note on the dis-chargers fairymen may or may not report to camp….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes, Bush, Echemandu
me on draft day “we took who ???” “why?”
I’ve been a fan since 06/06/08. the day he signed his contract
McFadden will silence the haters.
then we’ll hear all the “I knew he could do it” responses from the guys who trash him now in the offseason
July 26th, 2010 at 8:37 am
was talking to one of the delusional, he was saying chargers go 14-2… wilt tra thomas at LT, and no VJack
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LOL!
Tra Thomas did wonders for JAX last year, didn’t he?
Buster Davis & Josh Reed trying to replace VJ is like Eugene trying to replace Huff in coverage. absurd!
July 26th, 2010 at 8:38 am
[...] McD: Camp questions: Is McFadden just a camp star? yes. Camp questions: Is McFadden just a camp star? – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world… __________________ RaideroftheSith aka [...]
July 26th, 2010 at 8:40 am
They also have ROG’s relative who played at Freso state went undrafted, from what I hear he is making a lot of noise….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Legedue Nanea (not even trying to spell that right) is not a suitable replacement for Vincent Jackson… they are definitely going to miss him
July 26th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Legedu Naanee & Seyi Ajirotutu …
Who ???
July 26th, 2010 at 8:49 am
bcz24 Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Legedue Nanea (not even trying to spell that right) is not a suitable replacement for Vincent Jackson… they are definitely going to miss him
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10000% correct….
July 26th, 2010 at 8:51 am
DudleyHB fits him perfect, Rickey Dudley just like DHB looked like a stud in shorts ripped tall and fast, Dudley was impossible to cover only problem was he couldn’t catch the ball but every offseason talk was of how much better Dudley was gonna be so until he puts up numbers and catches the ball DudleyHB it’s gonna be.
July 26th, 2010 at 9:12 am
re Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson…
young man led all NFL running backs in fumbles and total number of rushing attempts which went for either zero yards or loss of yards.
only because…
DMcF had 1/3 the number of carries as did Peterson. Equalize the number of carries and DMcF would lead in both negative categories by a huge margin.
July 26th, 2010 at 9:34 am
DMAC = bust. Print that. End of story.
July 26th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Thank the Lawd we have MBush back there to show the nation how a talented back should produce. The sooner we give up on the habitual fumbler DMAC, the sooner we return to the playoffs.
For all of you who actually believe fumbling, injuries and weak running are caused by coaches – I suggest you seek treatment for Culpability Deficit Disorder.
July 26th, 2010 at 9:52 am
If DMAC had gotten the same number of carries as Peterson (314):
DMAC 1077 yds. rushing, 15 fumbles
Peterson 1383 yds. rushing, 7 fumbles
Still wanna blame the coaches and Oline?
If MBush had gotten 314 carries:
MBush 1504 yds. rushing, 5 fumbles
July 26th, 2010 at 9:59 am
To many intangibles for that argument I think BSJ. But I am pretty sure you don’t think Bush is a better back the AP
July 26th, 2010 at 10:03 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The McFadden haters are getting dull.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:03 am
It’s a great week to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Campbell checks-down too much? McFadden a bust? Neither are true. Yet.
Watch Campbell play…he makes (mostly) good decisions with the football. His TD-Int ratio says a lot, considering the team he was on. If the Raiders had a steady QB with Campbell’s skills and football smarts the past 3 years, they’d have pushed for the Division title. Even with our line problems on both sides of the ball. Campbell may not be the savior, but he can play.
Campbell not only knows how to check-down, but he knows how to actually complete the play! What a concept for a QB.
IF — a giant IF — DMcFadden can stay healthy, check-downs from Campbell (or Grads, for that matter) could be the plays that finally bring the star out in DMac.
Whether a RB is the 3rd option or the 1st option… imagine a time where our QB actually hits his RB 10-yards away, instead of throwing the ball 5-yards over his head.
If McFadden stays healthy, he CAN be a star player, if not a great every down RB. Since most of us probably feel he would/should excel on the outside, it will be interesting to see how he plays with a more effective Offense, and a QB who can hit the target. Assuming we have one of those, of course!
July 26th, 2010 at 10:04 am
MBush should be carrying the load for this team.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:05 am
bcz24 Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:59 am
To many intangibles for that argument I think BSJ. But I am pretty sure you don’t think Bush is a better back the AP
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The only intangibles I acknowledge are DMAC’s injuries and treatment. He clearly ran like his feet were numb in 08. But a gimpy knee is SOP for a RB, and does nothing to explain the stumbling and fumbling.
I wanted him traded while he still had some value. Because I’m a Raider fan.
Now I just hope he becomes a receiver threat and learns better ball security.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Dakota Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:03 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The McFadden haters are getting dull.
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Just like the Russell detractors did?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:08 am
BoSJack,
often is the case that numbers lie, but in McF’s case the above numbers do appear to tell a true tale of woe.
…silk purse out a Hog’s ear…lipstick on a Hog…when Hog’s fly…
can McF find a way to Hog heaven? or is it that he regards defenses as the abattoir he is helpless to avoid?
oh well, IR beckons as a way out of more disastrous non-productivity.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Trade DMAC for an abattoir!
July 26th, 2010 at 10:10 am
HayesDaze37,
…”nutty-hippie nature guy”…
you guessed it.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Just like the Russell detractors did?
++++++++++++
No. Russell was clearly a fat lazy POS that was not dedicated to the game of football. He desrved the heat. McFadden has had injuries. How many other players have had injuries early in their careers adn then went on to have a great career?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:15 am
M — I know a few!
July 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Based on his experience in the east, I am hopeful that Hue Jackson will see more upside in MBush than Cable did, and give up trying to turn DMAC into an inside runner. Give him screens, wheel routes and an occasional pitch. Bench him if he coughs it up.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Of course if you projected McFadden’s yardage using his rookie season YPC of 4.4 and lost fumble rate with Peterson’s carries McFadden would have:
1382 yards and 3 lost fumbles.
This is an easy game to play…
July 26th, 2010 at 10:17 am
and 11 rushing TDs…
July 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am
OK. I absolve DMAC of his poor productivity when he was hurt. Now, how about when he wasn’t?
Dedication and a dime may get you a cup of coffee. Production wins games.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am
OK. I absolve DMAC of his poor productivity when he was hurt. Now, how about when he wasn’t?
Dedication and a dime may get you a cup of coffee. Production wins games.
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4.4 yards per carry and 4 tds in only 113 attempts…pretty damned productive considering his QB, horrible o-line, and a dumb fuk OC.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Dakota Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Of course if you projected McFadden’s yardage using his rookie season YPC of 4.4 and lost fumble rate with Peterson’s carries McFadden would have:
1382 yards and 3 lost fumbles.
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Yes, very easy. Peterson had a better year in 08 too.
And we were using ALL fumbles. Losing them is a factor of luck. Moreover, wasn’t DMAC hurt al lot in 08 but relatively healthy last year? So much for the injury argument. His numbers get worse when his feet are healthy?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:23 am
S’up Nation?
Kool-Aid Fueled Ramblings:
I was watching SB XVIII last night, and I noticed that the 1983-84 Raiders rarely used a traditional “Fullback” (or even many I-Formations) but rather Pro-sets with Marcus Allen and Kenny King.
Even Madden, who provided commentary along with Pat Summerall, commented several times about the Raiders “two half-back scheme”(While the ’skins were utilizing the wishbone to no avail). I hope we utilize the Pro Set more under Huge-Action, getting Bush and D-Mac out there to confuse defenses. We do, however, need a decent FB for goal-line situations.
Marcus Allen had a terrible first quarter – with two stumbles and a fumble, but their dedication to the run (and some strong runs by King) opened up the deep ball to Cliff Branch. In the second half, Allen was able to tear it up on the edges, making one cut, and hitting the turbo. He didn’t have much success up the middle, but he could outrun everybody in space (sound familiar?)
The Raiders played fierce defense, and shut down the ’skins’ run game completely. But, even though the secondary (Haynes and Hayes) frustrated the ’skins’ receivers, they also got burned on a few big throws. If the ‘Skins had established any sort of a run, it would have been a much closer game.
I am convinced that the Raiders are trying to get back to the old ways, and any conservative philosophy lingering from the Gruden/Gannon era is eroding away.
I am also convinced that if we can stop the run, we can win against the best teams in the NFL – even if Routt, Eugene, and Co. get burned every now and again.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that the 2010 Raiders look more like the 1983 Raiders than the 2001 Raiders – or at least I hope so. The Raiders aren’t about moving the chains, controlling the clock, and taking what they’re given. The Raiders are about exploiting weaknesses, taking what they want, and instilling fear in their opponents. I know we aren’t there yet, but I feel we are moving in the right direction.
Go Raiders! 1-0
July 26th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Explain to me again how a “dum fk OC” and “horrible o-line” make a RB tackle himself and fumble at such a rate?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Make him a Slot receiver and go get a real running back…
July 26th, 2010 at 10:26 am
At one point, McFadden was hurt…in large part because Kiffin used him as a sledgehammer in places he didn’t belong at times. But, his toe injuries alone could be the reason he never becomes a star.
Even if it’s for health reasons, if McFadden doesn’t turn into a star (i.e., produce at a Pro Bowl level — even if not selected), he could be justifiably labeled a bust.
But when you’ve got Mcfadden’s talent, and the time/inclination to improve, the sky is still the limit. Same with DHB…the sky’s the limit.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Good thoughts Ted.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am
But, his toe injuries alone could be the reason he never becomes a star.
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Como?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Even slot receivers have to hold onto the ball.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Bo & M, what would McFadden have to do in 2010 for you to back away from the premature bust label you have placed on him?
Give me some numbers…
July 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am
factoring in that Peterson played a majority of games indoors on artificial turf (less elevated hashmarks) and McF played the majority of his games outdoors on real grass (much elevated hashmarks) I would have to say that Adrian had an easier go of it than did McF with those dang blades of grass waiting to trip him up at every turn.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Please post a video of McFadden “tackling himself”. one time a guy slapped his heel from behind and you have been ranting about it ever since.
I’ll wait….
July 26th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Kenny King was a great Raiders player. What a blocker.
Nobody deserves his health issues.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Dakota,
I’m sure you’ll admit that even you, DMc’s most ardent supporter, will have a singular thought pass through your mind every time the ball is handed to your boy. That thought is “don’t fumble”.
transforming from McFumble to McFadden would be a start. then transforming from McStumble to running back would be the next phase.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Bruce Campbell at RG is a BEAST !!!!
Can’t wait for the pads to get on!
DHB is a BEAST !!!!
July 26th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Dakota Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Bo & M, what would McFadden have to do in 2010 for you to back away from the premature bust label you have placed on him?
Give me some numbers…
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14+ games played would be nice, but the key stats are fumbles (under 1.5% of touches) and total yards (1200). I consider it likely he would get most of those those yards by receiving, but if he runs for the majority then FINE BY ME.
Also, he would need to largely avoid going down on first (or no) contact.
And I will rue the day with a smile!
July 26th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Dakota Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Please post a video of McFadden “tackling himself”. one time a guy slapped his heel from behind and you have been ranting about it ever since.
I’ll wait….
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No video at the workplace, but you must be high to think it only happened once. Even Jerry says he had stumblitis.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:39 am
transforming from McFumble to McFadden would be a start. then transforming from McStumble to running back would be the next phase.
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Once again, Lonetree distills the issue concisely..
July 26th, 2010 at 10:39 am
The threat of the deep pass can make or break the run game.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Jerry is a blind old man….no offense Jerry
July 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
If I were Hue Jackson, I would make DMAC the regular object of defensive stripping drills. And put him into a lot of full contact scrimmages. I suspect he looks so good in camp because the defense holds back. He needs to run against men like he once did against students.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am
2 questions on the McFadden thing …
Is he still letting the Raider doctors touch him
Is he happy he has a BEAST like Campbell at RG and a road grader like Walker at RT.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Confused Kenny King with Steve Smith there. Both great FB’s for the Raiders. Smith was a devastating blocker. His battle with ALS devastated this good man.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:48 am
M Lonetree Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Dakota,
I’m sure you’ll admit that even you, DMc’s most ardent supporter, will have a singular thought pass through your mind every time the ball is handed to your boy. That thought is “don’t fumble”.
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Dakota, do you admit?
July 26th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Bo,
He looks good in camp because we were the perenial worst run D in the league. Anyone that practices well against our Run D doesnt mean they will equate that to success. The niners killed us in practice but they didnt do crap for the season.
When DHB makes catches against Nnamdi, then there is legit reasons to be excited.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Steve Smith was prob the best fb we ever had. That guy demolished LB’s.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:52 am
McFadden did indeed get caught from behind a few times…and one notable time he tripped over nothing, while leading his eventual tackler by about 5-yards. The beginning of the toe issues?
If McFadden’s feet can’t stay healthy, he’ll never live up to his potential.
July 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am
A peace offering Dakota,
Among the highlights from Mitch Kupchak’s news conference:
–The Lakers hadn’t planned on pursuing Matt Barnes, but Kupchak saw a possibility after Barnes’ sign-and-trade deal with Toronto fell through.
–Kupchak is worried Lakers forward Luke Walton might miss the entire season next year because of the pinched nerve in his lower back, which is partly why he pursued Barnes and drafted Devin Ebanks.
–Kupchak expressed optimism that the Lakers will re-sign Shannon Brown: “I think there’s a good chance that in the next couple of weeks, we can have some resolution with Shannon. I’m optimistic.”
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/tweetable-items-from-mitch-kupchak-and-theo-ratliff.html
July 26th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Of course McFadden needs to fix his problem with fumbles.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Hayes,
DMAC tripped over nothing repeatedly LAST season, once the toe issues were supposedly resolved.
Still, AIG is right – DMAC will never be a tough runner. Too top heavy.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am
There needs to be sub-categories for busts: Healthy busts (JaBustus), and un-healthy busts (Ki-Jana Carter).
July 26th, 2010 at 11:03 am
So Dakota, the flipside of your earlier question…
What numbers must DMAC put up in 2010 for you to be convinced he IS a bust?
July 26th, 2010 at 11:03 am
DMAC tripped over nothing repeatedly LAST season, once the toe issues were supposedly resolved.
***
link? source? pic? film?
July 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Bruce Campbell at RG is a BEAST !!!!
***
LOL @ Jwigg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
And…McFadden adding weight is NOT the answer for him. He is what he is because of his speed. His lower body will not add weight (and some argue his legs are where it’s needed), and his skinny legs (yes, they ARE skinny) are not built to carry a bulkier torso.
McFadden is a tremendous talent and great athlete. Messing with his weight will not have any positive effects. He needs to get it done with the package he’s got right now.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
“Critics of McFadden contend he goes down at the first hint of contact and often will stumble before even being hit.”
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/07/25/camp-questions-is-mcfadden-just-a-camp-star/
July 26th, 2010 at 11:08 am
combine phenom LT Bruce Campbell from Maryland was drafted in Round 4 and thrown in at 2nd string RG backing up Cooper Carlisle (5 year starter at RG) in OTA’s
he already has a fan club?
now he’s a beast?
July 26th, 2010 at 11:08 am
DMAC tripped over nothing repeatedly LAST season, once the toe issues were supposedly resolved.
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I don’t recall that …
July 26th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 9:34 am
DMAC = bust. Print that. End of story.
++++++++++++++++++++
How so because you said it???
If he is a bust, why hasnt the team gotten rid of him like they did BRL?????
Hue Jack is the new sheriff in town, what is his opinion on DMAC????
We just got rid of our ” franchise QB” why not get rid of the other “so-labeled” bust…
July 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am
There needs to be sub-categories for busts: Healthy busts (JaBustus), and un-healthy busts (Ki-Jana Carter).
++++++++++++++++
Thats a good qulifier….
July 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am
critics contend = good source?
does that mean that the Lakers are crap because I said they are?
LOL. I love it
July 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:03 am
So Dakota, the flipside of your earlier question…
What numbers must DMAC put up in 2010 for you to be convinced he IS a bust?
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Numbers like last year and more injury problems and I will say it is time to move on…thankfully there is no chance of that happening baby!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am
now he’s a beast?
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No, he’s a BEAST …
Wait til the pads go on!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:11 am
We just got rid of our ” franchise QB” why not get rid of the other “so-labeled” bust…
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Thec, I don’t follow. However, it is clearly just my opinion I was sharing. As always time will tell.
I do find it funny that there were “rumors” of trading DMAC on draft day. Not to take credit, but I think I was the only one around seriously calling for a DMAC trade. Apparently my persistence had some effect.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Wait til the pads go on!
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fair enough
July 26th, 2010 at 11:14 am
thankfully there is no chance of that happening baby!
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Such a selective optimist you are for a natural cynic.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:16 am
While we may nitpick on Dmac’s running styles or built, I still think Dmac is a football player. I have seen him put the hurt the SD safety on a block. I have seen him make catches. Dmac is a football player and not an athlete trying to be a football player. I just think we are better off using him in other roles other than the primary back.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I just think we are better off using him in other roles other than the primary back.
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Absolutely. If used right, his only issues are ball security and the stumbling issues that so many of us have “imagined”.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:18 am
no contact from John Engelberger!
DMC “tackled himself” again …
http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2008/09/09/437035828_t220.jpg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:19 am
I still think Dmac is a football player.
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That’s the key right there. Lining this cat up predominantly in the I formation and trying to make him a “RB” was the problem.
Bush NEEDS to be the RB that gets 20 carries a game. McFadden needs to be a weapon that’s used to compliment that.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:20 am
DMAC tripped and nobody touched him!
http://nbcsportsmedia2.msnbc.com/j/apmegasports/200808152130774509577-pf.hmedium.jpg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:23 am
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0759gom2OdbXG/439x.jpg
pretty nice job avoiding Brian Dawkins for a guy who sucks worse than Fargas!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:25 am
oooo. he galloped by that KC defender with ease
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/09/20/ba-raiders_chief_0500619606.jpg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:26 am
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/08/08/sp-raiders09_ph__0498900228.jpg
McFadden had a Fullback?
we should have re-signed Justin Griffith!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:27 am
One thing I like about McFadden so far is he lays it on the line every play.
Look at game 1 last season against the chargers when he layed a nice crackback block on who i think was a linebacker for the bolts.
Straight up hard shoulder to the guys head it was a great block.
So far he has been misused in all our opinions and our o-line was again terrible last season.
I say Bruce Cambell earns a starting spot at guard and Satele knows the system better with the return of Gallery we are much improved this year and the Running backs can break loose.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:28 am
it takes 3 guys to bring DMAC down running with a steel plate in both shoes?
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/09/21/ba-raiders_buffa_0499180196.jpg
impressive!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Lets see so far…
Warriors have lost Morrow,(2nd best shooter on team) Azbuke, (great versatile bench player and spot starter) Randolph, ( young versatile athletic big man, with great upside) CJ Watson,( another solid backup PG and spot starter) and Turiaf,(energetic role player off the bench)
Warriors replace them with an overrated PF who can’t play one on one defense in Lee and a bench player who has no offensive game in D Wright….and a reach feel good player in Lin?? The number 1 pick Udoh is out for 6 months also!
Yep…as of now…this Warrior team is going to be WORSE than last years version as of now!
I know a few Warrior fans here at work, that I are actually buying Lin jerseys??
Are you serious?? Sad…
July 26th, 2010 at 11:29 am
JT,
that was the block on the safety of SD. He took him out.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:29 am
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/09/06/sp-raiders06_ph__0499010547.jpg
DMAC drinking gatorade, not sizzurp!
way to go young man …
July 26th, 2010 at 11:30 am
one guy at his feet, another guy trying to pull him down by the shoulders… DMC finds the endzone
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09Azdrl9Mv5PG/340x.jpg
TOUCHDOWN RAIDERS!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Just watched some DMAC highlights on youtube …
All I have to say is I hope he says healthy for 16 games. And this will be a non issue.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:32 am
just stiff-arm baby!
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/zip/2009/12-December/122009raidersATbroncos37/122009raidersATbroncos6–nfl_large_580_1000.jpg
now thats toughness …
what a supporting cast too! Charlie Frye & Todd Watkins? LOL.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am
DMAC dives for six!
http://thebdml.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sp-raiders_kansa_0499140319.jpg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am
So if I can find 8 pictures of Jamarcus throwing a completion does that make him not a bust?
July 26th, 2010 at 11:34 am
this is a good example of Dmac being a baller….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyZN1oXuehw&feature=related
July 26th, 2010 at 11:37 am
LMN-I know that,I was phucking with him,reversing things if you will.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:38 am
once again, barely touched by Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/09/ipt/1221446710.jpg
July 26th, 2010 at 11:39 am
DK,
the only guys happy with J Lin signing are Asian fans. he’s representing. I know because it’s blowing up all over Facebook.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:39 am
DMAC punches this dude in the grill!
http://cdn5.mattters.com/photos/photos/1336991/57474_redskins_raiders_football.jpg
you can tell he wants it
July 26th, 2010 at 11:40 am
http://raidersradar.com/files/2009/09/dmc2.jpg
Jamie Winborn didn’t tackle him. He fell on his own!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 7:35 am
I don’t understand how anybody who claims to be a Raider fan could root for a Top 10 draft pick to bust
I don’t see the logic in that …
we haven’t seen enough of a healthy DMC with a competent play caller and QB to judge him yet. He deserves AT LEAST one more season
^^^^^^^
Exactly…..plus people forget the Raiders O-Line has not been very good since he has been here!
That doesn’t help DMC one damn bit!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:42 am
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/pt/slideshows/2009/11/pho_112609_cowboys/embed/images/091126_NS_26McFadden_emb.jpg
2 Dallas players crushing DMAC. no wait, he tripped himself again and got hurt
my bad
July 26th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Warriors will be better than last year.
You can book that.
David Lee = All-star
Kelenna, Turiaf, CJ, Morrow, Randolph = role players
There are only 24 All-Stars and over 200 role players in the league.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:43 am
aig Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:39 am
DK,
the only guys happy with J Lin signing are Asian fans. he’s representing. I know because it’s blowing up all over Facebook.
^^^^^^^^
Yeah….ridiculous for the 10th or 11th man on the bench of a crappy team.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Warriors will be better than last year.
You can book that.
David Lee = All-star
Kelenna, Turiaf, CJ, Morrow, Randolph = role players
There are only 24 All-Stars and over 200 role players in the league.
^^^^^^^^
David Lee will NOT make the All-Star team next year…..mark my words!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:44 am
David Lee = All-star
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not in the West
July 26th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Just watched some DMAC highlights on youtube …
All I have to say is I hope he says healthy for 16 games. And this will be a non issue.
***
Jwigg: exactly
DMAC is a player
I think I proved that
July 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
The thing lost on some of us here, is that Darren is tough in some circumstances. I think his lack of between-the-tackle running ability is his lack of vision and patience. For all his supposed great speed and open-field running, I have yet to see him run away from anyone, and is often tackled by the safety when in the clear. He doesn’t change directions well, the great ones never slow down, he comes to an almost stop sometimes (could be injuries I guess).
But he may be a better short-yardage and goalline runner than Bush. Bush knows how to get chunks of yardage between the tackles, Darren just slams into the back of his lineman.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
All I know is when will they fire Nelson and Riley already?
On another note, any of you guys in here are weight lifters? I finally got to 315 for the first time and need tips on getting to 365.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Warriors will be better than last year.
You can book that.
David Lee = All-star
Kelenna, Turiaf, CJ, Morrow, Randolph = role players
There are only 24 All-Stars and over 200 role players in the league.
^^^^^^^^
Before the season starts….lets make a nice wager on that!
The Warrios will suck…AGAIN!
Book it…delusional Warrior fan.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:47 am
aig Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
All I know is when will they fire Nelson and Riley already?
On another note, any of you guys in here are weight lifters? I finally got to 315 for the first time and need tips on getting to 365.
^^^^^^^
More steroids maybe? LOL
July 26th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Lee and Amare will just trade All-star slots from East/West.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Did the Warriors even win 30 games last year?
They can improve…and still suck!!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Darren just slams into the back of his lineman.
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like Justin Fargas aka “Crash Test Dummy” ???
I don’t think so
Give the man another year. He has a competent OC & QB now! O-Line is still questionable at best, but good enough to get the job done imo
July 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
need tips on getting to 365.
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juice
July 26th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Bush knows how to get chunks of yardage between the tackles, Darren just slams into the back of his lineman.
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Careful Vegas. Someone will post 28 pics of him NOT running into his lineman to prove you “wrong”.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Gotta run….damn this phone..stop ringing!!!
July 26th, 2010 at 11:51 am
DKnight007: quit slamming the W’s … your favorite basketball team!
they’ll be back one of these days
July 26th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Lmao DK,
no thank you on steroids, I’d like to live a little longer. Cannot have Al Davis out live me…you know.
July 26th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Did the Warriors even win 30 games last year?
They can improve…and still suck!!
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hahaha….true…
July 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Exactly…..plus people forget the Raiders O-Line has not been very good since he has been here and the using the ZBS exclusively is not the way to go either.
Blocking schemes need to be mixed, between ZBS, man blocking, pulling and trapping, counters, and power zone depending on the game situation and when the offensive coaches see a weakness to exploit within the opposing D-Line and LB’s,
Having an inconsistent run blocking and pass blocking O-Line doesn’t help DMC or anyone else on that offense one damn bit!
July 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 26th, 2010 at 11:51 am
DKnight007: quit slamming the W’s … your favorite basketball team!
they’ll be back one of these days
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Can’t help it dude.
I mean they are not my #1 team, but I always have rooted for them to do well….but the crazy, irrational decisions over the years makes it awfully hard to not rip them.
July 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
338. DK,
I think we’ll see more rotation on the O line and a power package in short yardage and goal line.
The 2 TE sets didn’t work as well namely because Tony Stewart suggs azz and Myers has been a little green.
Jumbo package with Eric Pears at “TE” destroyed the Broncos on one drive.
Capped that drive with DMAC failing to get into the end zone though…
July 26th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
T.O. to Bengals?
Fug the Rams, Turd O wants to go to a team with a shot at the play offs so the Bungles make sense plus they’ve been the new landing pad for NFL malcontents for a while.
They just couldn’t face playing a season without a psychotic WR.
July 26th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
were playing alot of wildcat this year, jerry mac to my dismay pretty much spelled it out
July 26th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Bungles signed Owens?
new post!