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Camp questions: Can Raiders block and tackle?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, July 26th, 2010 at 1:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Last in a series of camp questions, with players reporting Tuesday and practice opening Thursday in Napa:

Can the Raiders improve their blocking and tackling in camp without doing a lot of blocking and tackling?

Warren Sapp used to say stats are for losers, his argument being you could bend a statistic any which way to make a point. The only thing that truly matters is wins and losses.

In the case of the Raiders, the stats clearly show they’re losers because of the two most important aspects of the game _ blocking and tackling.

Over the past four years, the Raiders have allowed an NFL high 201 sacks, and while properly teaching quarterbacks to get rid of the ball can take care of some of that, a lot of it has to do with pass blocking.

The last four seasons have seen the Raiders rank 21st, 10th, sixth and 29th in rushing, but with only 36 rushing touchdowns over those four seasons. In 2007-08, having installed a zone blocking scheme, their rushing yardage was up but they still managed 20 rushing touchdowns in 32 games _ an offense that could run the ball between the 20s before faltering in the red zone.

On defense, the Raiders’ well-documented woes defending the run have seen them ranked 29th, 31st, 31st and 25th since 2006 while surrendering 86 rushing touchdowns _ fifty more than they scored during the same span. The fact that safety Tyvon Branch led all NFL defensive backs in tackles with 123 is not a good thing, because it means runners are consistently getting downfield. Against the pass, only three teams gave up more 20-plus yard pass plays than Oakland’s 56 _ with many of those coming after an early blown tackle.

Yes, you can bend stats a lot of ways, but it’s hard to come to any conclusion other than this is a team that has had serious toughness issues along the line of scrimmage _ the polar opposite of, say, the Baltimore Ravens.

Good Raiders teams have been possible because of offensive line play, and that includes the most recent string of AFC West titles from 2000 through 2002 with Bill Callahan as the architect of a line which led the league in rushing in 2000 and pass blocked their way to an AFC title in 2002. Say what you will about Callahan as a head coach _he’s one of the NFL’s best lieutenants, as witnessed by his work with the New York Jets since leaving Nebraska.

The arrival of Hue Jackson means the Raiders will no longer be a pure zone blocking team, and the hope is that will enable the team to get tough yards in the red zone and particularly inside the 10-yard-line. Jackson was spending as much or more time in offseason practices open to the media as Tom Cable with line coach Jim Michalczik.

Assuming that rookie draft picks Jared Veldheer (third round) and Bruce Campbell (fourth round) won’t be instant starters, coaching and scheme will have to make the difference, because going into camp, the present lineup of Langston Walker at right tackle, Cooper Carlisle at right guard, Samson Satele at center, Robert Gallery at left guard and Mario Henderson at left tackle looks awful familiar.

It’s a different story on defense, where the Raiders got appreciably bigger and more physical at linebacker with the selection of Rolando McClain, the trade for strong side linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and the late-season ascension of Trevor Scott to weak side linebacker. Add rookie defensive end Lamarr Houston to the mix and Oakland clearly addressed its run defense in terms of personnel.

They also brought in released Jacksonville defensive tackle John Henderson, whose best days as a run defender may be behind him but could be a useful player for 15 to 20 snaps a game.

But here’s the rub regarding upgrading blocking and tackling _ it’s not like the old days when training camp was a survival of the fittest, injuries be damned.

You don’t bring tacklers to the ground in spring training, nor do you finish cut blocks or go out of your way to pancake a defender.

The best tackling Raiders team since they came back to Oakland was in 1998, with Willie Shaw as defensive coordinator. Shaw explained that by the time players got to the NFL, their tackling skills weren’t going to change much. The solution was to get more people to the ball, so that when a tackle was missed, another player followed right up.

That Oakland team was particularly adept at making tackles on third down, giving up some yards but never enough to move the chains.

If the Raiders can’t find a way to be a better blocking and tackling team during training camp, these previous 12 questions of this series are moot:

Is McFadden just a camp star?

Is Jason Campbell the answer?

Can Nnamdi be a playmaker?

Can Gradkowski start?

Will wee see T.O.?

Can less be more for Cable?

Can the starting linebackers hold up in coverage?

How good is Mike Mitchell?

Can Mario be super?

Can Higgins return to ‘08 form?

Where is Seymour’s ripple effect?

Can Bush be a beast?

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106 Responses to “Camp questions: Can Raiders block and tackle?”

  1. Nnamdi21 Says:

    McClain…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  2. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for blocking and tackling!

  3. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Say what you will about Callahan as a head coach _he’s one of the NFL’s best lieutenants, as witnessed by his work with the New York Jets since leaving Nebraska.

    ======================

    Ok,

    D’Brickshaw, Mangold, Alen Faneca ect ect…

    I think Thmoas Jones gets exposed at KC unless they’re waaaay better on the O line than I think they are…

  4. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Said it a thousand times…

    “Fix the O line, save the Raiders…”

    I think if they stay healthier, they’ll be better this year.

  5. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Charger fans are starting to get what we already know…

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-chargerscamp

  6. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jerry, what are the odds one or both of our draft picks are already signed and Al just hasn’t thrown the media a bone?

  7. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Thmoas Jones gets exposed at KC unless they’re waaaay better on the O line than I think they are…

    ***

    N21: Thomas Jones was pretty doggone special in Chicago too

    his early years (Cards & Bucs) are the ones i’m sure he’d like to forget …

  8. DKnight007 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:46 am
    One critique of Campbell is that he checks down too much as opposed to going for more yards.

    *************************************

    This has been the biggest critique of his game. Reading comments sections on PFT and Redskins blog, ‘Skins fans constantly railed on this.

    Could lead to why he has such a high completion %, decent stats, but not many points or wins.

    Although a guy who is skilled in the checkdown will be a welcome relief to our backs. Russell was especially pathetic in this area.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Agreed. A QB who tries to force the ball downfield…will not be very efficient. Just the way it is.

  9. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Over the past four years, the Raiders have allowed an NFL high 201 sacks

    ***

    much props to Dakota’s boy Tom Cable!

  10. RaiderRockstar Says:

    *fart*

  11. fat kidd Says:

    Fans visiting the Miami Dolphins’ Sun Life Stadium — or any NFL venue in Florida — might want to pack a lunch.

    Those were among the revelations from an “Outside The Lines” investigation highlighting “critical violations” incurred by stadium food vendors in recent inspections. The report showed disparate reviews for NFL venues, with 93 percent of vendors at Sun Life Stadium incurring critical violations — compared to zero percent at Gillette Stadium and less than 10 percent at stadiums in Baltimore and Indianapolis.

    The Sun Life report sounded unsettling enough for Dolphins boss Bill Parcells to reach for the antacid tablets he helped advertise years ago.

    “In June 2009, an employee complained anonymously that small insects and other debris were blended into frozen alcoholic beverages at a stand where equipment wasn’t being cleaned,” the Sun Life Stadium inspection report reads. “When inspectors checked, they issued a critical violation for a buildup of slime inside the frozen drinks machine.”

    Thanks, but no thanks.

    The chart below, based on information from the OTL piece, ranks NFL stadiums by percentage of food vendors suffering critical violations in recent inspections.

    Bon appétit.

    ‘Outside The Lines:’ Stadium Food Safety
    Rank NFL Stadium Team Percent Critical Violations
    1 Gillette Stadium Patriots 0%
    2 M&T Bank Stadium Ravens 4%
    3 Lucas Oil Stadium Colts 7%
    4 Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome Vikings 8%
    5 Cleveland Browns Stadium Browns 9%
    6 Ralph Wilson Stadium Bills 12%
    6 Soldier Field Bears 12%
    6 Louisiana Superdome Saints 12%
    9 Candlestick Park 49ers 13%
    10 Qualcomm Stadium Chargers 17%
    11 Lambeau Field Packers 18%
    12 Giants Stadium (demolished) Giants 20%
    12 Giants Stadium (demolished) Jets 20%
    14 Edward Jones Dome Rams 21%
    15 Reliant Stadium Texans 26%
    16 University of Phoenix Stadium Cardinals 28%
    17 Paul Brown Stadium Bengals 31%
    18 Georgia Dome Falcons 32%
    19 Lincoln Financial Field Eagles 33%
    19 Qwest Field Seahawks 33%
    21 McAfee Coliseum Raiders 34%
    22 FedEx Field Redskins 36%
    23 Bank of America Stadium Panthers 55%
    24 Arrowhead Stadium Chiefs 56%
    25 Heinz Field Steelers 61%
    25 Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium Broncos 61%
    27 LP Field Titans 62%
    28 Ford Field Lions 70%
    29 Cowboys Stadium Cowboys 72%
    30 Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Jaguars 77%
    31 Raymond James Stadium Bucs 84%
    32 Sun Life Stadium Dolphins 93%

  12. Pretty Rick Says:

    I think the most important question will be : Can Tom Cable coach? Call me crazy, but I still have doubts about Cable Guy,& I believe the success we have this year will be because of Hue Jackson although Tom Cable will probably get the credit,,& am I the only one who thinks Bruce Campbell should be playing Tackle instead of Guard?

  13. fat kidd Says:

    Edgerrin James open to playing in “the right situation”
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 26, 2010 3:49 PM ET
    Edgerrin James is about to turn 32, and he’s coming off a season in which he averaged 2.7 yards a carry. But he says that if a team out there is looking for a veteran running back, he’s available.

    “Now I’m healthy,” James said today at his youth football camp. “If the right situation presents itself, I’ll be playing.”

    James says he’s not going out of his way trying to convince a team to sign him, but he does think NFL teams should keep him in mind.

    “You never search,” James said. “You don’t have to search. My resume is out there. The one thing about me is you know what you’re going to get.”

    James isn’t the runner he once was — he hasn’t averaged even 4.0 yards a carry in any season since he was with the Colts in 2005. But he still thinks he has the skills to contribute to an NFL offense. I”ve got raider speed.Hint?

    “I’ve always been one of the best pass protectors out there,” James said. “I know I can block and I can help protect those $20 million a year quarterbacks

  14. RaiderRockstar Says:

    21 McAfee Coliseum Raiders 34%

    ***

    looks about like our run defense after drafting ROMAC to replace Morrison!

    good thing we signed John Henderson :)

    Top 15 baby

  15. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I went to just about every game between 99 and 03, and I don’t think I ate one thing ever at a game.

    No bugs in Jack Daniels shots, I am pretty sure of this. Use to get a huge azz coke, and than I got friendly with the bar girl near my section and she would hook it up with a couple of shots with a nice little tip for her.

  16. RaiderRockstar Says:

    am I the only one who thinks Bruce Campbell should be playing Tackle instead of Guard?

    ***

    he’s played tackle since high school. I agree with you

  17. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I got friendly with the bar girl near my section and she would hook it up with a couple of shots with a nice little tip for her.

    ***

    must be that robert goulet charm, eh?

  18. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’ll take Edgerrin James if McFadden or Bush get hurt!

    Brian Westbrook is too risky with those concussion issues …

  19. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Campbell also played defensive end in high school. Another Fred Wakefield? lol

  20. Dakota Says:

    After looking around at some other Raider-related comment sections I just don’t see the hate for McFadden that I see in here.

    I feel responsible for the hatred of McFadden in here….people want me to be wrong JUST ONCE!

    Sorry biotches, it ain’t happening!

    GOOOOO MCFADDEN!

  21. aig Says:

    Titans sue Lane Kiffin, USC
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2010 5:27 PM ET
    Folks in Tennessee have been fuming about Lane Kiffin for months. After all, he took over the state’s flagship college football program in 2009, stayed for a year, and then jumped to USC as soon as the job came open.

    More recently, Kiffin and USC has angered the state’s pro football team by hiring running backs coach Kennedy Pola, who was under contract with the Titans.

    The Titans, as it turns out, are heeding the advice of Doug Llewellyn.

    Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that the Titans have sued Kiffin and the Trojans for “maliciously” interfering with Pola’s contract with the Titans. Pola also has been sued for breaching his contract.

    Though college football coaches routinely regard contracts as meaningless documents that can be disregarded at will, the reality is that most — if not all — American jurisdictions recognize a claim for tortious interference with contractual relations, giving a team like the Titans the ability to sue another team like the Trojans that induces an employee to break an existing contract. (If another NFL team had taken Pola, the remedy would have arisen under the league’s tampering rules.)

    The lawsuit does not specify an amount of financial damages, and the Titans apparently do not attempt to force Pola to remain employed by the Titans. In cases of this nature, damages would be determined by tabulating the actual losses incurred by the Titans in having to scramble to replace Pola. Punitive damages also could be available.

    In most cases, football teams move on after an assistant coach is pilfered by another program. It doesn’t mean that teams don’t have the ability to pursue legal relief.

    To the likely delight of everyone in Tennessee, the Titans have.

    Meanwhile, Titans coach Jeff Fisher has rocketed to the top of the Al Davis wish list.

    ————–

    lmao I think Jeff Fischer is going to be a Raider at some point.

  22. Jonesy941 Says:

    did you not read the article that stated they only put bruce campbell at guard so he could get more playing time! they know he is a tackle thats prob where he will end up sooner then later!

  23. Dakota Says:

    Cooper and Satele are currently our starters……

    puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke!

  24. Jonesy941 Says:

    they are terrible

  25. fat kidd Says:

    Dez Bryant on Cowboys’ Rookie Hazing Ritual: ‘I’m Not Doing It’
    7/26/2010 10:30 AM ET By Chris Harry
    Senior NFL Writer
    SAN ANTONIO — It didn’t take rookie Dez Bryant long to find a comfort zone with the Dallas Cowboys.
    Or to raise an eyebrow or two amongst his teammates.
    Bryant, the wide receiver and first-round pick who wowed fans at the Alamodome during the team’s first training camp workouts over the weekend, refused to take part Sunday in the rookie ritual of carrying veterans’ shoulder pads to the locker room.

    “I’m not doing it,” Bryant said. “I feel like I was drafted to play football, not carry another player’s pads. I just feel like I’m here to play football. I’m here to try to help win a championship, not carry another man’s pads. I’m not saying that out of disrespect.”

    The kid seemed sincere enough, but it was interesting that the vet he stiffed was Roy Williams, the wideout everybody expects Bryant to unseat in the starting lineup.
    “He’s kind of ornery right now,” said Williams, who has been a huge disappointment for the Cowboys since the club traded first- and third-round picks during the 2008 season to acquire the former Detroit Lions first-round pick. “He doesn’t want to carry the pads and we should take them in the locker room. We might have to go to Step 2.”

    That sounds ominous.

    Former Dallas coach Bill Parcells used to have rookies fetch him water during practice. And several rookies were spotted carrying pads and helmets for Cowboys vets over the weekend. That’s no different than what will go on across the league when the rest of the teams begin filing in for camp this week. Williams did it as a rookie with the Lions in 2004.

    But Step 2?

    “I’ve seen guys take people’s credit cards and go fill up their cards and wives’ cards,” Williams said. “There’s a lot of dirt that goes on in the locker room.”

  26. Pretty Rick Says:

    Here’s an idea,,get Bruce Campbell the reps at Tackle,,whats the point of him getting reps at a postition he nevered played & probably isnt gonna play? Thats one of the reasons the O-line has been terrible for years, because we draft players at one position then move’em to a totally different postion. Bruce Campbell taking reps at guard isnt going to make him a better tackle,,its just wasting time,,he should be learning how to become an NFL Tackle.

  27. Pretty Rick Says:

    Never,,not nevered,,,yeah Im a clown :-)

  28. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    I hope that Cable doesn’t waste the first couple of days, with hand holding sessions like last year…

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dez Bryant, as usual, acted like a child.

    He asked to wear Michael Irvin’s #88, and I am sure Michael carried pads and than made others after him do it.

    Mike needs to sit this little brat down and tell him how it is.

    What is this, I was brought here to win a championship nonsense? What is he the only one, are the other rookies there to carry pads?

    I hate this guy already. I hope MM34 knocks his teeth out in a few weeks.

  30. Thec07 Says:

    I hope MM34 knocks his teeth out in a few weeks
    ++++++++++++++++===

    That would be a good gesture…

  31. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mario is slated to be the starting LT, Valdheer is a LT and Campbell played LT.

    I doubt they are going to waive either of them in the next 2 years, so you need to try to do something with them, they can’t all be LT’s.

    And I know one could go to the right-side, but Jared and Mario especially are pretty lean to go to RT, where the emphasis is on run-blocking and less pass-blocking.

    I think the plan all along was to draft Campbell in the later rounds if he was there, and make him a G.

  32. Dakota Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    I hope that Cable doesn’t waste the first couple of days, with hand holding sessions like last year…
    ___________

    The patty-cake training camp…another brilliant move by Tom Cable.

  33. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Im still trying to figure out who the bigger douche bag is, Lame Sniffin Kiffin, or Seymour Oakdork Bush…. lets just call it a tie..

  34. fat kidd Says:

    im excited!! i dont think mcclain and houston will be there the first day unfortunately
    __________________

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lane Kiffin pissing off USC alum. LMAO

    This new AD, Pat Hayden is a USC guy, who probably is old buddies with Jeff Fisher.

    I put the over/under on games coached at USC for Lane Kiffin at 17. Unceremoniously dumped right before the end of this 2 year ban.

  36. aig Says:

    yup….I dont even think Lame Kitten will even last his first season. They need to start recruiting before the sanctions are up. My hunch is 1 year and done.

  37. Thec07 Says:

    good as i dont like lane. he is overhyped, as he wasnt the brains behind the USC rise on O. that was ALL norm chow… He benifitted and was exposed at USC, and will be further exposed as the fraud that he is….

  38. Thec07 Says:

    when he co-called the plays with sark, the O was lousy…

  39. lefty12 Says:

    Unless you are a USC fan you should hope he stays.

  40. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    Whatever happened to Lame’s lawsuit \ grievance against the Raiders? eh? Maybe Al was right? That one has just been swept under the rug…..

  41. Thec07 Says:

    I am a USC fan…

  42. fat kidd Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    I am a USC fan…

    ………you poor thing you have my sympathy

  43. inonewordraider Says:

    Glad we didn’t draft that primadonna Bryant

  44. Dr. Steven Hawking Says:

    I am not a Lane Kiffin fan…

  45. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Lane = the Barack of coaches.

    Great speaker, great salesman, accomplished very little and has continued to somehow get a better job after not really being succesful at his previous job.

  46. fat kidd Says:

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  47. bcz24 Says:

    Anyone knows jerrys twitter address?

  48. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Coto de Caza = VERY high rent part of town. That’s where all “The Real Skanks Of Orange County.” are from…

  49. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Bcz24…..

    twitter.com/Jerrymcd

  50. Thec07 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    I am a USC fan…

    ………you poor thing you have my sympathy

    ++++++++++++++++++

    No need for sympathy, as USC will be back, money on it…

  51. Jonesy941 Says:

    I think we need to hire R.Kelly and send him to Kiffens house and when Lane answers well you know what happens next.

  52. DutchRaider77 Says:

    A lot rookies through the years have started out playing guard like: Florzell Adams (RG). Why is everyone so hyped on Campbell being a tackle anyways? I did not think he was an awesome Tackle in college, I thought we were high on him b/c of his combine numbers? Not sure why a 4th rounder playing guard is a wasted pick, considering how raw a player he is supposed to be? I was looking forward to the Raiders using some of those combine skills on traps and getting up to the next level on LBs.

  53. bcz24 Says:

    Gallery was a first round LT who has excelled at guard… maybe they saw the same patterns in campbell

  54. bcz24 Says:

    That would be nasty dutch… Campbell pulling across the line at 4.6 40 speed blasting unsuspecting dlineman!

  55. bcz24 Says:

    Edgerin James would be a very solid replacement for Farglass. He could be a real mentor to Bush and DMac, without infringing on their carries to much.

  56. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Tennesse can get behind Davis. We get to sue him first…

  57. Nnamdi21 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    That would be nasty dutch… Campbell pulling across the line at 4.6 40 speed blasting unsuspecting dlineman!

    =========================

    Except that he’s a terible run blocker especially in space.

    “Must improve his effectiveness as a cut blocker, often failing to even reach the ground. Throws his body towards a defender instead of locking on and sustaining.”

  58. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Where is Barnes and Pears plaing? Jerry said that Barnes was playing exclusively at LG in camps? Wonder if Barnes has a chance to play RG also? What I heard on Barnes from Jackonsiville day was he was a good run blocker, terrible at pass protection. Cable has been high on Pears(RT?), well he was high on Harris and Green also (maybe he is just high?). Also, I am eager to see what a new and improved Langston Walker can do at RT.

    Let us hope B. Campbell is a fast learner and a hard worker. Love to see

  59. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Am I wrong that Gallery failed at LT b/c of his short arms?

  60. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Fix the O line, save the Raiders…

  61. fat kidd Says:

    i bought a mountain dew slushy i put it down now i cant find it!!!!!!!!!!

  62. J Wiggle Says:

    Except that he’s a terible run blocker especially in space.

    ——————————————————-

    How about waiting to see when the pads go on?

    Were talking about getting a body on a guy in a phone booth as opposed to him blocking as a LT.

  63. Thec07 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    i bought a mountain dew slushy i put it down now i cant find it!!!!!!!!!!

    +++++++++++++++++++==

    lol…… are u high???

  64. Thec07 Says:

    every thing being equal our season rests on the oline…

  65. fat kidd Says:

    New Madden game will feature revamped soundtrack
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2010 6:10 PM ET
    In past years, the Madden franchise featured a soundtrack with new music that appealed to the youthful demographic to which the exclusive NFL video game appeals.

    This year, Electronic Arts will focus on replicating the in-stadium experience.

    The full soundtrack appears at the EA website. Original songs appearing on the game include AC/DC’s Thunderstruck, Welcome to the Jungle by Guns ‘N’ Roses, Let It Rock from Kevin Rudoff, the Kiss classic Rock and Rock All Nite, and Ozzy Osbourne’s Crazy Train.

    The game also includes covers of Rock ‘N’ Roll Part 2 and We Will Rock You.

    For the first time, team-specific songs will appear in the game, including Bear Down Chicago Bears, Go Packers Go!, Skol Vikings, and Fly Eagles Fly.

    Meanwhile, Florio Jr. continues to pester the hell out of me to demonstrate my modest sports industry juice by scoring for him an advance copy of the game. EA, Drew Brees, can you help me get Florio Jr. off my back?

  66. M Lonetree Says:

    ah yes, block and tackle. very useful to hoist untold weights like the 7 year gorilla off one’s back.

    no 300 pound walrus pushing while everyone else is pulling is also an enormous help.

    Raider on.

  67. bcz24 Says:

    At least we have some appreciable depth this year… I still dont know why we havent even worked out Mawae

  68. bcz24 Says:

    Wonder if that means “The Autumn Wind is a Raider” will be on the Madden soundtrack

  69. fat kidd Says:

    everyone can sleep easier now i am going to vouch for the o-line flozell is coming!!!!!!!!the o-line will be fine.

  70. fat kidd Says:

    and i found my slushy

  71. JT52 Says:

    oh how I love nfl game rewind. Watching some past games right now notably our ass wopping we gave the chargers week 1 LOL too bad we lost.

  72. bcz24 Says:

    Still say they ROBBED Murph of that TD… difference in the game, and possibly our whole season… Who knows what we do if we start 1-0

  73. JT52 Says:

    AGREED! Even Steve Young said it was a TD in the booth

    Anyway I just switched over to NO vs. Washington to scount Cambell some he had like 330 pass yards this game and 3TD’s

  74. Thec07 Says:

    just had the same discussion in the office. That was a touchdown…

  75. Thec07 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    and i found my slushy

    ++++++++++++++++=

    where was it in the fridge???

  76. JT52 Says:

    Correction 367 yards passing, 3TDs, 71.4% completions

  77. fat kidd Says:

    2010 fantasy football rankings wr 1. Andre Johnson, Texans
    2. Calvin Johnson, Lions
    3. Randy Moss, Patriots
    4. Miles Austin, Cowboys
    5. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals
    6. Reggie Wayne, Colts
    7. DeSean Jackson, Eagles
    8. Roddy White, Falcons
    9. Brandon Marshall, Dolphins
    10. Sidney Rice, Vikings
    11. Anquan Boldin, Ravens
    12. Marques Colston, Saints
    13. Greg Jennings, Packers
    14. Chad Ochocinco, Bengals
    15. Steve Smith, Panthers
    16. Steve Smith, Giants
    17. Percy Harvin, Vikings
    18. Hakeem Nicks, Giants
    19. Michael Crabtree, 49ers
    20. Pierre Garcon, Colts
    21. Dwayne Bowe, chiefs
    22. Hines Ward, Steelers
    23. Mike Sims-Walker, Jaguars
    24. Robert Meachem, Saints
    25. Donald Driver, Packers
    26. Mike Wallace, Steelers
    27. Vincent Jackson, Chargers
    28. Santana Moss, Redskins
    29. Derrick Mason, Ravens
    30. Jeremy Maclin, Eagles
    31. Steve Breaston, Cardinals
    32. Dez Bryant, Cowboys
    33. Kenny Britt, Titans
    34. T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Seahawks
    35. Wes Welker, Patriots
    36. Lee Evans, Bills
    37. Antonio Bryant, Bengals
    38. Braylon Edwards, Jets
    39. Devin Aromashodu, Bears
    40. Nate Burleson, Seahawks
    41. Santonio Holmes, Jets
    42. Julian Edelman, Patriots
    43. Demaryius Thomas, Broncos
    44 Malcom Floyd, Chargers
    45. Mario Manningham, Giants
    46. Johnny Knox, Bears
    47. Josh Morgan, 49ers
    48. Mohamed Massaquoi, Browns
    49. Devery Henderson, Saints
    50. Eddie Royal, Broncos
    51. Devin Thomas, Redskins
    52. Chris Chambers, Chiefs
    53. Terrell Owens, FA
    54. Jerricho Cotchery, Jets
    55. Laurent Robinson, Rams
    56. Donnie Avery, Rams
    57. Golden Tate, Seahawks
    58. Jabar Gaffney, Broncos
    59. Austin Collie, Colts
    60. Kevin Walter, Texans
    61. Jacoby Jones, Texans
    62. Arrelious Benn, Buccaneers
    63. Davone Bess, Dolphins
    64. Roy Williams, Cowboys
    65. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Raiders
    66. Lance Moore, Saints
    67. Nate Washington, Titans
    68. Anthony Gonzalez, Colts
    69. Early Doucet, Cardinals
    70. Devin Hester, Bears
    71. Chaz Schilens, Raiders
    72. Mike Williams, Seahawks
    73. Jason Avant, Eagles
    74. Brandon Gibson, Rams
    75. Bernard Berrian, Vikings
    where is murphy?

  78. fat kidd Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    and i found my slushy

    ++++++++++++++++=

    where was it in the fridge???

    ……………….no i was carrying groceries and sat it down on the porch!!!

  79. JT52 Says:

    LOL To be honest I do a fantasy league where we buy-in for 100 each and I doubt I am picking any Raiders this year.

    If DMAC or Bush are there past round 10 I will consider them, I would even take Raiders Defense depending on how they look in the preseason. But thats all.

  80. bcz24 Says:

    Zack Miller is the only worthy fantasy guy, at least for now…

  81. fat kidd Says:

    32.dez bryant hasnt caught a ball yet in the nfl and people hate him.

  82. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JT52 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    Correction 367 yards passing, 3TDs, 71.4% completions

    ********************************

    Don’t forget the back-breaking int with a minute to go in his own territory in a tie game.

    Just saying.

    But if that kicker makes that 24 yarder it wouldn’t even have came to that.

  83. fat kidd Says:

    randy moss went to new england too play for a contender ,i hope we play new england in the playoffs and stomp their a$$.

  84. JT52 Says:

    ust Fire Baby Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    JT52 Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    Correction 367 yards passing, 3TDs, 71.4% completions

    ********************************

    Don’t forget the back-breaking int with a minute to go in his own territory in a tie game.

    Just saying.

    But if that kicker makes that 24 yarder it wouldn’t even have came to that.

    **************************

    Ouch havent seen this game yet so I did not know thats how it ends. Damn that sucks. Well NO did win the SB last year I hope the INT was atleast a good Defensive play and not a boner move.

    On the other hand Zach Miller is a worthy fantasy option i had him the past two years and will prob grab him again

  85. fat kidd Says:

    2010 nfl training camp dates Team: Oakland Raiders
    Location: Napa Valley Marriott
    City: Napa Valley, Calif.
    Rookies: July 28
    Veterans: July 28 in case somebody fogot.Mcclain you better be there!!!

  86. fat kidd Says:

    The 2010 Raiders schedule has been released.

    Oakland opens the season against Tennessee on Sept. 12.

    Check out the complete 2010 Oakland Raiders schedule below. All times are ET.

    1 Sun, Sept 12 at Tennessee 1:00 PM WIN
    2 Sun, Sept 19 St. Louis 4:05 PM WIN
    3 Sun, Sept 26 at Arizona 4:15 PM WIN
    4 Sun, Oct 3 Houston 4:05 PM WIN
    5 Sun, Oct 10 San Diego 4:15 PM WIN
    6 Sun, Oct 17 at San Francisco 4:05 PM WIN
    7 Sun, Oct 24 at Denver 4:15 PM WIN
    8 Sun, Oct 31 Seattle 4:15 PM WIN
    9 Sun, Nov 7 Kansas City 4:15 PM WIN
    11 Sun, Nov 21 at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM WIN
    12 Sun, Nov 28 Miami 4:05 PM WIN
    13 Sun, Dec 5 at San Diego 4:05 PM WIN
    14 Sun, Dec 12 at Jacksonville 1:00 PM WIN
    15 Sun, Dec 19 Denver 4:15 PM WIN
    16 Sun, Dec 26 Indianapolis 4:05 PM WIN
    17 Sun, Jan 2 at Kansas City 1:00 PM WIN

  87. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He played great all game, maybe even better than Brees.

    Than on the int……well you just go watch it. Very Jamarcus-esque.

    But 360 yards and 3 TD’s is about 5 weeks for Jamarcus, lol.

  88. bcz24 Says:

    16-0… I like your thinking Fats!

  89. bcz24 Says:

    5 weeks Vegas? Did Janyquil through 3 tds with the Raiders?

  90. JT52 Says:

    Checked the sports book today oakland is 100-1 to win the Big one this year.

    I think thats worthy of a bet.

    Hell Cinnci is 50-1. If they get TO I am taking that bet too

  91. fat kidd Says:

    LIST OF PEOPLE LANE KIFFIN HAS NOT PISSED OFF 1. HIS MOM 2. HIS DAD 3. HIS PAPERBOY 4. 5. 6. …………………………I NEED SOME HELP HERE!!!

  92. fat kidd Says:

    Bengals want answer, lower price from T.O.
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 26, 2010 8:41 PM ET
    With the Rams out of the mix, the Bengals are once again the only team going after Terrell Owens. Just like March.

    With that in mind, the Bengals are trying to close the deal fast. They made an official offer on Monday according to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer and the team is hoping an answer comes in the next 48 hours before training camp starts. The problem here looks like Owens’ price tag.

    “There’s a reason why the Rams pulled out of the TO bidding — the asking price hasn’t come down,” Reedy writes.

    The Bengals like to waste money on wide receivers, but it’s ridiculous if they don’t get Owens at a discount. The team burnt $10 million on Laveranues Coles last year and invested huge money into Antonio Bryant, who the Bengals coaching staff now feels “lukewarm” about according to Adam Schefter.

    Paying Owens over $5 million would be throwing good money after bad.

  93. bcz24 Says:

    Silly pick up for the Bungles… They already have one personality too big for their locker room, dont need another.

  94. fat kidd Says:

    Martellus Bennett apologizes for nude photos
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 26, 2010 7:01 PM ET
    Cowboys tight end Martellus Bennett is apologizing once again, this time for naked pictures of him that surfaced today.

    “These pictures were taken four years ago and placed on the Internet recently without my knowledge or consent,” Bennett said in a statement released by the Cowboys. “I understand that they are totally inappropriate. And for that I am sorry. I regret the embarrassment that it has caused the organization.”

    The photos show a nude Bennett using his iPhone to take a picture of himself in a mirror. They were apparently sold to a web site by an ex-girlfriend.

    The Cowboys haven’t said whether they’re taking any action on this particular matter, but coach Wade Phillips did say that the team can discipline players if their personal conduct reflects poorly on the team.

    “We fine players. We’ve done quite a few things in that area,” Phillips said. “We talk about social media, and we have rules on all those things.”

    It’s far from the first time that Bennett’s antics have landed him in hot water. This month he posted a video on YouTube showing him wearing a fake beard and pretending to be Osama bin Laden. Last month he ripped Titans quarterback Vince Young for getting into an altercation at a strip club, then apologized to Young. A year ago he apologized for posting a YouTube video that he called the “Black Olympics,” featuring himself and his brother competing to see who could eat more fried chicken and watermelon. He was fined by the Cowboys for using a homophobic slur and a racially offensive remark. He once claimed to have eaten a dog at a Chinese restaurant. And so on.

    On the field, Bennett is currently unable to participate in the Cowboys’ training camp practices with an ankle injury.

    is this the worlds smartest guy?

  95. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Take him Cincy.

    They apparently have a need for a locker room psycho at WR.

    (No, not you Ocho…)

  96. Nnamdi21 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    LIST OF PEOPLE LANE KIFFIN HAS NOT PISSED OFF 1. HIS MOM 2. HIS DAD 3. HIS PAPERBOY 4. 5. 6. …………………………I NEED SOME HELP HERE!!!

    ===================

    Mom and Dad stopped taking his calls…

  97. Nnamdi21 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    July 26th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
    32.dez bryant hasnt caught a ball yet in the nfl and people hate him.

    ===================

    They want to…

    They’ll al shut up when he starts catching passes. He is REALLY GOOD…

  98. Thec07 Says:

    Dez Bryant is who would should have been drafting had we drafted ligcally a few years in a row…..

    I like dez bryant better than crabtree….

  99. Thec07 Says:

    I meant to type drafting logically…
    Drafting ligcally is what we have been doing the last few years….

  100. fat kidd Says:

    Dez Bryant Just Another Cowboys Diva
    7/26/2010 8:32 PM ET By Anthony L. Gargano
    Thanks now to Dez Bryant, LeBron James isn’t the most me-bloated, self-sniffing rebel without a pause button on the planet. See, Roy Williams told Dez to carry his shoulder pads like a good rookie, and Dez told him to get his own shine box because Dez doesn’t play that.

    Even though his well-accomplished number-sake did. And from first-rounders to free-agent camp bodies throughout the history of the league, just about everyone else did when they were a rookie. Because there’s a lesson in it about humility. Because no matter how swoll your bankroll or swagger rating on “Madden ‘11″, you need to earn respect in the room. Because the sum of the room wins in football.

    And while Dez has declared much through a couple days in San Antonio, impressing the eyes with a series of one-handed snares and deep grabs, the Cowboys will only win in a house not divided. So while it’s news that Dez dons Michael Irving’s jersey, the voices in that locker room had better make sure now that it doesn’t say H1N1 on the back instead of 88.

    Romo better order a Code Red.

    And blame it on the ghost of Terrell Owens.

  101. Thec07 Says:

    bunles will have a good WR’s corps of Owens, Ocho, and Bryant… not bad…

  102. Midwest Fan Says:

    Anyone else want to see Campbell play some FB at the goal line. I think a counter would be pretty effective.

  103. fat kidd Says:

    Andy Reid defends “very nice person” Michael Vick
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 26, 2010 7:50 PM ET
    Eagles coach Andy Reid addressed reporters today at the start of his team’s training camp, and questions about backup quarterback Michael Vick dominated the session. Reid has steadfastly defended Vick, and today was no different.

    “Michael is a very nice person,” Reid said. “He really is.” And a Big Mac is a nery nice sandwich!

  104. fat kidd Says:

    “I will do anything to win” – Al Davis

  105. fat kidd Says:

    Raiders’ Louis Murphy: ‘I Really See Us in the Playoffs’
    7/12/2010 6:45 PM ET By Chris Burke
    It’s almost time for NFL training camps to get going, which means optimism is flowing like water around the league.

    Back in June, Lions second-year safety Louis Delmas made the claim that Detroit can go 8-8 and make the playoffs this season. And now Raiders wide receiver Louis Murphy has jumped on the prediction bandwagon, claiming in a chat on NFL.com that Oakland’s headed for the postseason.

    “I see the Silver & Black in the playoffs this year,” Murphy wrote. “We had a lot of good chances, a strong rookie class. I really see us in the playoffs. We have the same coaching staff, with a couple of changes. The addition of (new offensive coordinator) Hue Jackson is great, he brings a whole new feel to the offense. He’s very energetic. It’s a whole new feel. Everyone is excited.”

    Here’s the part where we point out that Oakland hasn’t made the playoffs since its Super Bowl runner-up finish in the 2002 season, when Bill Callahan was running the show with Rich Gannon at QB. The Raiders finished 4-12 the next year and haven’t topped the five-win mark in any season since, composing a 29-83 record.

    Oakland finished 5-11 last year, good for third in the AFC West ahead of Kansas City, but did finish 3-4 down the stretch despite a brutal schedule that included trips to Dallas, Pittsburgh and Denver, plus home games against the likes of Baltimore and Cincinnati. The Raiders also, theoretically, upgraded at the quarterback position, dumping JaMarcus Russell in favor of Washington castoff Jason Campbell. They also added veteran John Henderson to a solid defensive line and drafted linebacker Rolando McClain, among others.

    Long story short, if you’re looking for reasons to buy low on the Raiders, you can find them. But it’s probably worth keeping in mind that you can probably find at least one guy on all 32 teams who thinks his squad’s playoff bound.
    Murphy says book it dano!!!!!!

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