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More Tatum reaction

A few more observations from Raiders’ present and past about Jack Tatum, the former Raiders safety who died of heart failure Tuesday at age 61.

– “Seeing him the last two years, it was a blessing to me to know that was what the Raiders were all about. To hear he passed _ bless his family, and God’s going to be with him. It’s not a timetable when the Lord calls you home. It was just his time to go. This day and time, the Raider Nation did take a downfall from one of their soldiers,’’ _ Raiders cornerback Chris Johnson

– “He was all about big hits. Wouldn’t nobody come across the middle. That’s what we’ve got to bring to the secondary. We’ve got to bring that back. We can’t do it exactly like he did because we’d get fined now, but we still have that mentality as he had just be under the rules,’’ _ Johnson on Tatum’s playing style.

– “You try to but you can’t duplicate some of the things he did on the field. The way he hit people, he was a pure intimidator out there,’’ Raiders safety Tyvon Branch.

– “Everybody’s heard of Jack Tatum. (Others), you never hear about them. It’s because of the way he played the game. He leaves behind that legacy of being the assassin. I was watching ESPN Classic one day and they were showing the old hits. You see him popping people’s helmets off. Everybody’s got short arms when they were going across the middle because they knew he was there,’’ Branch on Tatum’s name recognition among young players and playing style.

– “I got to know Jack during my time with the Raiders. Just one of the all-time greats. A very good football player on a lot of those great Raiders teams. He’d come around and watch practice and talk to the young players and was always a sounding board, particularly for the young defensive players. He played the game with a little chip on his shoulder, very physical. A member of the College Football Hall of Fame. It’s really a sad day for all Raiders and for all Raider fans across the country,’’ former Raiders quarterback and Sirius Satellite Radio host Rich Gannon.

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  • Thec07

    LHOUSTON is going back to his natural postion….

  • aig

    Let me remind you…Casey Hampton.. probowler from Pitt.

    Made probowl from 2003 to 2007. Showed up 2008 out of shape and did not make probowl. Showed up in shape in 2009 and made the probowl.

    There’s a track record for you when it comes to being in shape to play football. Yes they are big and fat but there is a football big and fat and there is a big turd and fat.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Do your statements ever come with any fact to back them up?

    ***

    No.

    do yours?

  • elboocho

    RIP assassin, the best raider safety ever :( !!!

  • aig

    RRS,

    yes and I have proven them to you time again. If you have memory problems, then just re-read my post on Casey Hampton above…you know the very same DT that you tried to use for your argument that I quickly debunked yesterday.

  • mistic1

    Grady Jackson is a perfect example of what a raider 4-3 tackle should be. You have one tackle as a guy that holds and closes gaps and the other tackle penetrates and pushes his gap, collapses the pocket, forces the rb’s outside. This is kelly’s strength, we have only needed some one to match him up with. henderson is the perfect fit, and we can draft or free agent next year if he is out of gas.

  • aig

    1. Cody has yet to take a professional snap and showed up out of shape….FACT.

    2. DMAC has been useless the past 2 years for the Raiders…FACT.

    3. Nick Miller was successful in his roles as a returner and WR for the Raiders in the preseason last year. FACT.

    would you like more RRS?

  • kidseven

    I don’t think it’s just the Purple Drank that’s got us feeling good about this season. In addition to the big additions and subtractions let’s not forget that the league is designed, via the draft, to balance things out and give all teams a chance at success.

    Even though the Raiders have had some questionable drafts, they are probably, on average, assembling better players than teams that have been drafting much later. Therefore it’s really no surprise that they have so many young players who it would appear are either about to break out or at least contribute in important ways. The safety position is a good example; Huff is finally coming around, Branch could be a Pro-Bowler in the next couple of years, and MM34 waits in the wings.

    How many teams have a better lineup of YOUNG talent at WR? Chaz could breakout this year. Murphy is already dangerous. DHB might contribute. JLH might get his testosterone back, and Jacoby Ford waits in the wings.

    I say pour me a double shot of the cough-Aid and let’s get this season started.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Let me remind you…Casey Hampton.. probowler from Pitt.

    Made probowl from 2003 to 2007. Showed up 2008 out of shape and did not make probowl. Showed up in shape in 2009 and made the probowl.

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    AIG – the Steelers won the 2008 Super Bowl in large part due to the play of Casey Hampton.

    just because somebody fails to make the Pro Bowl doesn’t mean they weren’t effective

    Albert Haynesworth, Vince Wilfork & Jamal Williams are all SOLID football players that got more votes than him … click this link

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Pro_Bowl

    Hampton made the 2008 Pro Bowl as an injury replacement for Jamal Williams!

    what were you saying about FACTS again?

    LOL!

  • mistic1

    Forget nick miller, and jlh, jacoby ford is the real deal. Ford, DHb, and Dmac, mix in some draw plays, screens, reverse, and bubble screens this team is going to kill teams that try and blitz.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Nick Miller was successful in his roles as a returner and WR for the Raiders in the preseason last year. FACT.

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    link? source?

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves with putting too much weight (pun intended) into the first day of training camp.

    Guys can show up in their best shape of their lives and fall on their face, and guys can show up out of shape and have a great year.

    Cody isn’t going to be a full-time player anyways, and it is not like the Ravens NEED him. He will be phased in, and I doubt there is an interior O-lineman that is looking forward to blocking him, man boobs and all.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Zach Miller has been one of the best TE’s in the league the past 3 years …

    ZERO pro bowls

    does that mean he’s not a good player?

    the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest man. you should know that by now

  • CJ Legend 34

    To be honest the one big thing I am excited about this year besides us winning. Is just being able to have a QB out there that does not make you have a heart attack every time he lets go of the ball! Russel had no short touch on the ball and a number of our skill players have the ability to take a screen or an out or a slant and take it the distance. Even Zach can take a short drag and go! Before anyone says Grads no disrespect but he has a weak arm and all the great makings of a scond string QB. I like Grads but he just ain’t it. Frye gym rat or not no production on the field.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Cody isn’t going to be a full-time player anyways

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    true. Kelly Gregg is a stud, until further notice

    he turns 34 years old this year though. the Ravens had to get a guy to groom and eventually replace him

    Terrence Cody is that guy and he’ll do a good job for them. GM Ozzie Newsome can identify talent

  • Just Fire Baby

    Wonder who will be the main kick returners in our preseason game?

    Will JLH even be given a shot on punts? Is Miller the kickoff guy, and Ford the Punt guy? Or vice versa? Will Yamon get a crack?

  • CJ Legend 34

    I agree and we have a QB now who can check down and make that happen! Nick Miller JLH we will see how gos.
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    mistic1 Says:
    July 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    Forget nick miller, and jlh, jacoby ford is the real deal. Ford, DHb, and Dmac, mix in some draw plays, screens, reverse, and bubble screens this team is going to kill teams that try and blitz.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Fire Baby: I bet Rock Cartwright & Yamon Figurs will get in on the returner competition, as will JLH & little nicky …

    Ford will have every opportunity to take this job and run with it

  • Just Fire Baby

    CJ,

    Curious, how much arm strength do you need? It surely helps, but Drew Brees has a fairly weak arm, and he might be the best QB in the league.

    Bruce threw the ball 55 yards in the air when he hit Murphy in Pittsburgh, does he really need to throw the ball 60+ yards to be successful?

    Bruce may not be the ultimate answer, even as a backup, but it won’t be arm-strength that does him in. It will be the ability to stay healthy and not turn the ball over.

  • kidseven

    “Russel had no short touch on the ball and a number of our skill players have the ability to take a screen or an out or a slant and take it the distance.”

    So true. How many games we could have won if only #2 could have made the simple throw. Regardless of their other deficiencies, one thing most Raiders have is speed. Wasted the last few years.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the arm strength argument is WAY overblown. you just have to have a guy that fits your system …

    did anybody see Kyle Orton throwing for 3800 yards & 21 TD’s last year ???

  • Just Fire Baby

    Glad everyone is excited to have a QB that has the ability to check down, because that is one of the main negatives on JC’s game, he checks down way too much.

    Although a check-down on 3rd and 8 is much better than a sack or an overthrown turnover.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Accuracy, game management and leadership.

    That’s what a QB needs. They can be 6 foot with a weak arm, and still win the Super Bowl (as we just learned).

  • RaiderRockstar

    Chad Pennington has been pretty darn impressive (when healthy) throughout his career

    this guy probably has the weakest arm in the league, but makes up for it with smarts & accuracy

  • RaiderRockstar

    Accuracy, game management and leadership.

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    Bruce Gradkowski might have 2 out of 3, but that first one (accuracy) is a biggie!

    I’m not ready to call journeyman Bruce an accurate QB when his stats don’t enforce it

  • Just Fire Baby

    Bruce needs to be accurate if he ever envisions himself a full-time starter.

    This is true. But the book should never be closed on any 27 year-old QB. There is still time to improve and hopefully he did so this offseason and upcoming training camp.

    Same goes with Jason. His accuracy is good enough, game management is not. This can also improve this year, as the book shouldn’t be closed on him either.

    QB’s are not RB’s, they gradually get better and peak at around the 28-33 range. RB’s are already used up by about that time.

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post. Go Raiders!

  • bcz24

    Leave your running backs on the sidelines with Ngata and Cody plugging up the middle…

    Vegas you got the line on the Ravens for the SB?

  • mistic1

    Monatana and young anyone? Arm strenght is a luxury depending on the system you run.

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