More Tatum reaction
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, July 27th, 2010 at 6:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A few more observations from Raiders’ present and past about Jack Tatum, the former Raiders safety who died of heart failure Tuesday at age 61.
– “Seeing him the last two years, it was a blessing to me to know that was what the Raiders were all about. To hear he passed _ bless his family, and God’s going to be with him. It’s not a timetable when the Lord calls you home. It was just his time to go. This day and time, the Raider Nation did take a downfall from one of their soldiers,’’ _ Raiders cornerback Chris Johnson
– “He was all about big hits. Wouldn’t nobody come across the middle. That’s what we’ve got to bring to the secondary. We’ve got to bring that back. We can’t do it exactly like he did because we’d get fined now, but we still have that mentality as he had just be under the rules,’’ _ Johnson on Tatum’s playing style.
– “You try to but you can’t duplicate some of the things he did on the field. The way he hit people, he was a pure intimidator out there,’’ Raiders safety Tyvon Branch.
– “Everybody’s heard of Jack Tatum. (Others), you never hear about them. It’s because of the way he played the game. He leaves behind that legacy of being the assassin. I was watching ESPN Classic one day and they were showing the old hits. You see him popping people’s helmets off. Everybody’s got short arms when they were going across the middle because they knew he was there,’’ Branch on Tatum’s name recognition among young players and playing style.
– “I got to know Jack during my time with the Raiders. Just one of the all-time greats. A very good football player on a lot of those great Raiders teams. He’d come around and watch practice and talk to the young players and was always a sounding board, particularly for the young defensive players. He played the game with a little chip on his shoulder, very physical. A member of the College Football Hall of Fame. It’s really a sad day for all Raiders and for all Raider fans across the country,’’ former Raiders quarterback and Sirius Satellite Radio host Rich Gannon.
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July 27th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
All defensive personal foul penalties incurred this season should be should be forgiven right now, in training camp, by Uncle Al and the coaching staff. A Green Light to rip peoples heads off this year should be given, in honor of Jack Tatum.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
RIP…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/legends_of_the_silver__black
July 27th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Hehateme,
I agree with your post. I think the first few days on live contact is going to be crazy!!!!!
July 27th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
so jerry, how’s that for a first day of training camp… enough news for ya?
July 27th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Aig, keep saying “Houston don’t hurt em’!~
July 27th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Rich Gannon, always the class act.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I see Chaz was working with my boy Bruce for a solid month.
Chemistry in action!!
July 27th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
CHAD T.O. BRYANT ALL CINCY NEEDS IS A BIG ARM QB LIKE JR.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
When I met Cliff Branch at Wal-Mart last month, I asked him if he had an autographed photos of him with Atkinson or Tatum.
I would have bought a dozen or so, and had X-mas and B-day gifts for all my uncles who idolized those guys. Sadly, he didn’t have any.
I wish I could have watched those cats hit people, and intimidate. I’m not as PC as others, putting Dez Bryant or a 49er in paralysis this preseason sounds good to me.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Last years hand-holding session was a direct correlation with our previous QB not being up to speed.
If Campbell or Bruce was the starter during that time, after about 2 hours they would step up and say , “coach…enough of this BS, let’s play ball.”
Jamarcus probably loved it.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Beikert to the coaching staff is a good move as Jerry said earlier he decoded Peyton’s pre snap call in a game the Raiders beat the Colts. Beikert was also the guy who decked former Raider Scott Davis his rookie year in LA. Good stuff.
July 27th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Confucius say = Oakland Raiders are being transformed again to hungry underdogs, desperate for a title.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Greg Beikert will make Pain Mclain a HOF.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
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July 27th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Raiders training camp roster
BAY AREA NEWS GROUP
Posted: 07/26/2010 07:59:14 PM PDT
Updated: 07/26/2010 07:59:15 PM PDT
TRAINING CAMP ROSTER
Quarterbacks (4): Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller
Running backs (5): Darren McFadden, Michael Bush, Rock Cartwright, Michael Bennett, Marcel Reece
Fullback (3): Luke Lawton, Chane Moline, Manase Tonga
Wide receivers (12): Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Todd Watkins, Jonathan Holland, Nick Miller, Damola Adeniji, Shaun Bodiford, Yamon Figurs, Jacoby Ford, Paul Hubbard
Tight ends (4): Zach Miller, Tony Stewart, Brandon Myers, John Owens
Centers (2): Samson Satele, Chris Morris
Guards (6): Cooper Carlisle, Robert Gallery, Bruce Campbell, Daniel Loper, Brandon Rodd, Allen Smith
Offensive tackles (5): Mario Henderson, Khalif Barnes, Erik Pears, Langston Walker, Jared Veldheer
Defensive ends (7): Richard Seymour, Jay Richardson, Matt Shaughnessy, Lamarr Houston, Trevor Scott, Alex Daniels, Greyson Gunheim
Defensive tackles (7): Tommy Kelly, John Henderson, Chris Cooper, Ryan Boschetti, William Joseph, Desmond Bryant, Kellen Heard
Linebackers (10): Thomas Howard, Kamerion Wimbley, Rolando McClain, Ricky Brown, Sam Williams, David Nixon, Slade Norris, Jon Condo, Travis Goethel, Quentin Groves
Cornerbacks (6): Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Johnson, Stanford Routt, Walter McFadden, Joey Thomas, Jeremy Ware
Safeties (6): Tyvon Branch, Hiram Eugene, Mike Mitchell, Michael Huff, Jerome Boyd, Stevie Brown
Kickers (2): Sebastian Janikowski, Swayze Waters
Punter (1): Shane Lechler
Armchair G.M. WE NEED TO MAKE CUTS DOWN TO 53 PLAYERS AND NOBODY CUT THE PUNTER.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Stevie Brown, Alex Daniels, Joey Thomas, Paul Hubbard, Brandon Rodd, Shaun Bodiford, Chris Cooper might as well just stay home.
They have zero chance of making the final roster, and would be a reach to even make the Practice Squad.
What do we do with the 10 LB’s? I think Howard is actively being shopped as we speak, but there isn’t much of a market. Goethel, Norris and Nixon could all be PS candidates. Ricky Brown is one more injury from being history.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Move Reese to fullback, cut Moline & Tonga
Let Bush, Bennett and Cartwright pound the ball
Trade DMAC for a seat at Mister Tatums funeral.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Jack Tatum was the man.
Cool cat, and a wicked free safety.
I named my son Jack, because of him.
Rest in peace brother.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
R.I.P Video!! SHOW LOVE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1lYWg0_Yz8
July 27th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
All joking aside, I pray DMAC has a probowl year.
July 27th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Did someone say Greg Biekert is on our coaching staff? That would be awesome. Another great move. Players who didnt have the physical gifts are usually better coaches.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Great vid C.R…. Man, could the Assassin shiver guys with the forearm. I also had to love the punches to the head on WR’s away from the ball. Sure seems like a sissy game now compared to then… Not that I’d like to take a hit from Pain McClain or the Missile.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Alright ya’ll. Had to post this to remind everyone (as if u didn’t know already) that the first preseason game is only a little less than 2 1/2 weeks away!
P1 Aug 12 OAK @ DAL Cowboys Stadium 9:00 PM
P2 Aug 21 OAK @ CHI Soldier Field 8:30 PM
P3 Aug 28 SF @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 9:00 PM
P4 Sep 02 SEA @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 10:00 PM
Then notice how we end up playing at home, we can rest up and get ready for TEN!
GO RAIDERS!
July 27th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Fatkid, why are you talking about Tebow’s underwear?LOL on the mancrush.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
well i wear jockey brand until today now i gonna go without!!!
July 27th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Plunketthead Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
All joking aside, I pray DMAC has a probowl year
…………………………sorry im cutting dmac replacing him with larry johnson,marshawn lynch,willie parker when they are let go.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
well i wear jockey brand until today now i gonna go without!!!
…………………no more underwear till al davis admits he was wrong about lance kiffin.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Jack Roush Seriously Injured in Another Plane Crash
7/27/2010 10:19 PM ET By FanHouse Staff
NASCAR team owner Jack Roush is in serious but stable condition after walking away from a plane crash in a jet he was piloting in Wisconsin on Tuesday.
“There are injuries. Possible surgery,” Roush Fenway Racing president Geoff Smith said in a text message to The Associated Press. “But he walked out of the plane.”
A backboard is brought up as Roush lies down next to the plane. Meanwhile, his lone passenger, identified as Brenda Strickland, also gingerly makes her way out of the plane on her feet, assisted by rescuers.
Roush, an aviation buff, was expected to attend the Experimental Aircraft Association’s annual AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wis., this week.
The aviation website avweb.com reported that Roush’s Premier Beechcraft jet pancaked the runway with a loud bang while landing at Oshkosh, but that Roush and a passenger were out of the plane and standing after the crash.
In a statement on the EAA website, officials said a Beechcraft Premier business jet registered to Roush Fenway Racing, LLC was involved in a landing accident at Wittman Regional Airport in Oshkosh.
The accident occurred at approximately 6:15 p.m. CDT, the statement said.
According to the EAA, the National Transportation Safety Board and Winnebago County Sheriff’s Department confirmed that two occupants on board were Roush and Brenda Strickland of Plymouth, Mich.
“Each exited the aircraft following the accident,” the statement said. “Both were transported to local hospitals, with Roush in serious but stable condition and Strickland with non-life threatening injuries. The NTSB is leading the investigation into the accident.”
It is the second plane crash Roush has survived. He crashed a plane into a pond in Alabama in 2002 and was rescued by an ex-Marine who lived nearby. Roush continued flying after that accident.
Roush owns several aircraft, including a World War II-vintage P-51 Mustang
July 27th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
RIP Tatum. A true founder and member of the Raider Nation. Not only was he the president, but he was also a client.
July 27th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
…………………no more underwear till al davis admits he was wrong about lance kiffin.
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What was he wrong about fatty?
Fat boy on a diet, don’t try it
I’ll jack yo’ ass like a looter in a riot
July 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Now just maybe now Jerry can gt it through his head that Seymour actually wanted to be here and wasn’t boxed. But then again we’re talking about Jerry! he always thinks the Raiders need to beg someone to come here. This is still a place where players want to be wether he likes it believes it or not. Seymour is proof positive.
We have a chance to have a very good defense. Seymour doesn’t want a repeat of last year he knows they have a real chance to win now with the offense. So h can’t allow the defense to falter.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
priesttj Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Now just maybe now Jerry can gt it through his head that Seymour actually wanted to be here and wasn’t boxed. But then again we’re talking about Jerry! he always thinks the Raiders need to beg someone to come here. This is still a place where players want to be wether he likes it believes it or not. Seymour is proof positive.
We have a chance to have a very good defense. Seymour doesn’t want a repeat of last year he knows they have a real chance to win now with the offense. So h can’t allow the defense to falter.
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How bout this TJ:
Maybe, just maybe, Seymour is a pro, and is acting like a pro. I like him. The fact that he came on a bus, the rookie bus nonetheless, say alot about his character.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Anyone remember when Jerry Porter showed up wearing a Boxing Belt without a shirt? What a tool that guy was.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Talk to me Goose.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Well that sir goes without saying, you don’t do what he’s done sinc he’s been here unless you’re a pro. He never once took the primadonna approach and h could’ve as many probowls as h’s been to. But I think the guy really likes the idea of being a Raider. It shows in his actions.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
I am hoping these guys go at it hard this year. Lots of intimidation type personal fouls to start games like the Raiders of old. Does anyone remember the playoff game years ago when Otis Mckinney dumped Seattles’ punter in the beginning of the game. I was only 11 or 12, but even then I thought he did it on purpose. It didnt look like he even tried to block the kick in my young eyes. The tone was set for that game and the Raiders whooped their asses all day long.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Jack Tatum <——- Hard Hitter, Stand Up Guy a true RAIDER…..RIP….
July 27th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Raider E Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
I am hoping these guys go at it hard this year. Lots of intimidation type personal fouls to start games like the Raiders of old. Does anyone remember the playoff game years ago when Otis Mckinney dumped Seattles’ punter in the beginning of the game. I was only 11 or 12, but even then I thought he did it on purpose. It didnt look like he even tried to block the kick in my young eyes. The tone was set for that game and the Raiders whooped their asses all day long.
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Play like Jack did…
July 27th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Jack Tatum played on the best NFL team of all times…..The 1976 Raiders…
July 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Dr. Steven Hawking Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
RIP Tatum. A true founder and member of the Raider Nation. Not only was he the president, but he was also a client.
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Amen Brother….
July 27th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
tj if the Raiders traded Seymour tomorrow it would take you all of 5 minutes to turn on the guy.
You’re a fraud.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
tj if the Raiders traded Seymour tomorrow it would take you all of 5 minutes to turn on the guy.
You’re a fraud.
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Come on man, don’t start, please.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Like you got it through your head JaMeatball was garbage, oh wait you never did get that through that thick empty skull.
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priesttj Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Now just maybe now Jerry can gt it through his head
July 27th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I would turn on him to Mistabrown. Once you leave the Raiders, you become the enemy? I bet you still like Mucus Allen when he was a Chief didn’t you….
July 27th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Not me when a player leaves he is gone so what its a business. Took me all of 10 mins to get over Moss leaving. When you watch GB play are you throwing things at your TV every time C Wood makes a play ?
Give me a break..
July 27th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Doc
Don’t worry about th little hatemonger h can’t hlp himself. He only entry in here is always to attack someone. Anything positive is just not a part of his thought process.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
M Allen killed us twice a year when he went to KC I hated him just the same as I hated LT. No diff!
July 27th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
tj is your keyboard missing the “e” key or have you been tipping the bottle? Keyboards are like 10 dollars at Fry’s.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Tried to post the “Cody Flunks Conditioning Test”
Seems he will not be able to practice and is now on the PUP…..
July 27th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Hopefully McClain will be signed soon, he needs to be in camp.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
83,
I posted that already this morning. No worries…there are still diehard people on this blog that still wanted him him regardless if he can’t even practice or not.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
tj is your keyboard missing the “e” key or have you been tipping the bottle? Keyboards are like 10 dollars at Fry’s.
……………………where did you get your keyboard sistabrown at monkeys r us
July 27th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
tj have you resisted arrest this week or been assaulted by any “white” cops ?
July 27th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
How can you be one of the most feared hitters of all time and not be in the hall?
July 27th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
John Madden on Tatum’s reaction to Stingley injury: “It ate at him his whole life”
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2010 12:22 AM ET
As part of an excellent obituary of former Raiders safety Jack Tatum, who died Tuesday of a heart attack while waiting for a kidney transplant, Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times obtained reaction from Tatum’s coach in Oakland, John Madden.
Madden told Farmer that the play for which Tatum was most notorious — the August 1978 hit on Patriots receiver Darryl Stingley that left him paralyzed — had a dramatic impact on the man who seemed to relish his reputation as a fierce hitter.
“It ate at him his whole life,” Madden said of Tatum.
Madden also said that Tatum didn’t want to be known as an assassin, but that the label was foisted upon him based on the title to Tatum’s autobiography. “After the book, people started to call him ‘The Assassin’ and say that that was his nickname, which was never true, and that he called himself an assassin, which he didn’t,” Madden told Farmer. “The story is that he’s a high school All-American and he’s recruited to Ohio State as a hitter. And he’s praised to be a hitter. And he plays at Ohio State and he’s an All-American, because he’s a hitter. And he goes to the pros and is a first-round draft choice because he’s a hitter.
“And then he hits a guy, the guy doesn’t get up, and they call him an assassin.”
First of all, that brilliant-in-its-simplicity explanation from Madden makes me realize how much I miss hearing him on my television. Second, Tatum really shouldn’t be chastised for doing too effectively the job he was hired to do — especially since the NFL still loves to show us the kinds of hits that Tatum used to dish out, as long as the guy who absorbed the blow was able to get up afterward.
July 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Later Raider fans I’m just not in the mood for negativism and contraversy. We had a great Raider fall today and all som people can do is find a way to hate.
Adios!!
July 27th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Adios bigot!!
July 27th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Lane Kiffin says he was surprised by Titans lawsuit
Posted by Mike Florio on July 27, 2010 10:17 PM ET
USC coach Lane Kiffin says he was surprised by the Tennessee Titans’ decision to sue Kiffin and the Trojans for pilfering running backs coach Kennedy Pola.
John Taylor of CFT has the details.
As best we understand Kiffin’s position, he was taken aback by being sued for interfering with Tennessee’s contractual rights as to Pola because Kiffin routinely has interfered with the contractual rights of other football programs.
We don’t care what happens to Kiffin at USC because college football isn’t our thing, but we hope no NFL team ever gives this guy another chance as a head coach or as an assistant.
And we hope he doesn’t win his grievance against the Raiders, which at last word was still not resolved.
Finally, at what point does Kiffin’s father, long-time NFL assistant Monte, get called out by the media for allowing Lane to act this way?
July 27th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
tj why dont you stick to words you can spell because “contraversy” is clearly a word giving you trouble for quite a long time now.
hint: the “a” doesn’t belong.
Maybe Fat Runt can loan you his “spellchek” prog!
July 27th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 11:42 am
*****Must Read************
OK, I know this is not a Dallas Blog but I ahve to comment on the way they made a big deal out of Dez Bryant carrying Roy Williams pads.I could have summed all of this bull$#!t up in three words “BIG FREAKING DEAL!!!” I hate all of that traditional hazing BS. So he did not carry Roy’s pads boo-hoooooo.
The Cowboys are idiots!
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never spent a season in a locker room obviously.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Jack Tatum, Kenny Stabler, Hendricks, Alzado, Matuszak…all Raider warriors that are what the Silver and Black are all about.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
forgot Lester Hayes.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Those guys marched to their own drum….and lots of guys followed.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
tj is your keyboard missing the “e” key or have you been tipping the bottle? Keyboards are like 10 dollars at Fry’s.
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unfortunately MistaClown can’t buy a personality…anywhere.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
You forgot alot more then the Judge RDT. For reals….
July 27th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
probably Raider E
July 27th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Jack Tatum, Kenny Stabler, Hendricks, Alzado, Matuszak…Russell all Raider warriors that are what the Silver and Black are all about.
……………………………..russell who?
July 27th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
and MistaClown…just for your information…he didn’t miss the “e” key, it was the “o” key…but we’ll keep that just between you and me Ok?
Don’t worry…our opinion of your superior spelling skills hasn’t dropped off at all…we always knew you couldn’t.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Don’t start that with me Random. My name is Eric. I live in Spokane WA.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Fat Kidd who?
July 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
and yes, it sucks here, just trying to get through 3 more years of school.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Raider E Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Don’t start that with me Random. My name is Eric. I live in Spokane WA.
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start with you?…..I agreed with you…but whatever.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
but thanks for the warning that you’re from “Spokane”…I’ll know better from now on.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Spokane is the name of a city which is located near Washington. It is based near the Idaho border. It is a metropolis and an urban centre. It is the second largest city in Washington and the county seat of Spokane County. It was initially known as Spokan Falls even when it was incorporated as a city. It was named after a Native American tribe named Spokane which meant “children of the sun”. This tribe is located in the north-eastern part of Washington State in U.S.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
fat kidd Says:
July 27th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
well i wear jockey brand until today now i gonna go without!!!
…………………no more underwear till al davis admits he was wrong about lance kiffin and that it was Ok for me to be in bed without underwear with him.
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Fat Kidd…why would pick here to say this…not cool.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
My mistake, I guess. It looked an awful lot like you were implying that I am Richo.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
The D needs to wear a special patch this year in honor of Jack Tatum, the “Assassin”. The entire squad should commit themselves to Tatumize their game and commit to bringing it on every play. Maybe his passing can be used for that which Jack would have approved – kicking ass and taking names.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Im from Newark CA, born in Castro Valley at Eden Hospital. I moved right before the quake in 89. I used to commute on that highway that collapsed daily.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
would never do that Raider E…agreed with your statement that I obviously left out many Great Raiders in my statement.
the “Richo” statement was thrown out into the cloud to see if “Richo” was working as a Mod tonight…but it seems that only “Fat Kidd” is working as Mod tonight.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
out.
July 27th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
after saying out…Jack Tatum knocked out Earl Campbell on the Goal line, and it was only luck that Campbell fell into the endzone….nobody else ever hit a guy that big and hurt him as bad as Jack Tatum did.
Jack Tatum can’t be honoured as he should, because everybody remembers Darryl Stingley instead of everything else Jack did.
July 27th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
and I will now agree with you Random.
July 28th, 2010 at 1:47 am
TRAINING CAMP facts
Coach: Tom Cable
When: Today through late August
Where: Napa Valley Marriott
Practice schedule: From 8:30-11 a.m. and 4:20-6:30 p.m. on most days.
Who can watch: All practices are closed to the public, except for the Raider Nation Celebration at the Oakland Coliseum on Aug. 27.
Exhibition schedule: Aug. 12, at Dallas Cowboys, 6 p.m.; Aug. 21, at Chicago Bears, 5:30 p.m.; Aug. 28, vs. 49ers, 6 p.m.; Sept. 2, vs. Seattle Seahawks, 7 p.m.
Snap decision
Raiders coach Tom Cable will have to choose between Jason Campbell, right, or Bruce Gradkowski, above, as his starting quarterback. Here is how the two compared last season: (Campbell’s statistics with the Redskins):
Campbell Gradkowski
16 Games 7
507 Attempts 150
327 Completions 82
64.5 Percentage 54.7
3,618 Yards 1,007
20 Touchdowns 6
15 Interceptions 3
86.4 Rating 80.6
July 28th, 2010 at 3:43 am
People are starting to come out of the woodwork about the great man that Jack Tatum was. This might be the impetus to get him into the HOF, posthumously — I hope so!
July 28th, 2010 at 5:29 am
All I will add is this — football is a violent game: everyone knows that going-in. Perhaps Tatum would have been less vilified if the “hit” in question had come during a regular season or playoff game, instead of a preseason game. Regardless, the man did his job and played within the rules — you never saw him deliver a late hit out of bounds or take a cheap shot. What he did was legal, fierce and intimidating. I remember the great “Night Train” Lane and all those ferocious clothesline tackles he used to deliver (now illegal). Suppose one of his victims had landed wrong and become paralyzed – would history have viewed Night Train any differently? I am thinking so. Tatum is the victim of the fact that Stingley landed the wrong way when he came to the ground – a fate that many more players have been lucky to avoid. Otherwise, I think Jack would already be in the Hall.
July 28th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Growing up, I used to love the Soul Patrol!!! Very sad day yesterday, but now all that we can do is celebrate the life of Tatum! Mr Assassin! Rest in Peace!!! With those quotes from Branch and Johnson…it really would be great to see the fear factor again in the middle!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Jack Tatum can’t be honoured as he should, because everybody remembers Darryl Stingley instead of everything else Jack did.
~~~I agree Random. Very unfortunate that Mr. Stingley landed the way he did. But, that was how football was played and Jack did it best! The NFL should have overlooked that incident and looked at how great of a player Tatum was!!! But…and especially…because he was a Raider…’nuff said!
July 28th, 2010 at 6:31 am
No one is here this morning besides Tbone? Good morning to you by the way…
July 28th, 2010 at 6:33 am
In Memorium
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which almost went unnoticed last week. Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote “The Hokey Pokey”, died peacefully at age 93. The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin. They put his left leg in. And then the trouble started.
July 28th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Could not resist. Morning Raider Nation!
July 28th, 2010 at 6:38 am
That was a quick laugh this morning…lol
Good Morning Exla!
July 28th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Good Morning, Nation! Glad to have you all in …
July 28th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln,
how was the play?
July 28th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Oooh, now that’s bad…
July 28th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Interesting hire for the Raiders coaching staff _ former starting middle linebacker Greg Biekert.
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what is he?
asst LB Coach? defensive quality control?
July 28th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Defensive tackle John Henderson is fine with his primary responsibility _ seeing if he can help turn around a poor run defense.
“I love stopping the run. That’s my thing,’’ Henderson said. “It’s been that way since I was at the Univeristy of Tennessee.’’
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muwahahahahaha!
2010 Raiders = 10-6
Print That
July 28th, 2010 at 6:53 am
KENTUCKY:
Five million people,
Fifteen last names.
Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!
My short-term memory is not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my short-term memory’s not as sharp as it used to be.
OK, I got it out of my system. Can’t wait for the camp to start!!
July 28th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Good Morning Rockstar!
I always did like Biekert…yes, he would be famous for recovering Tom Brady’s fumble in the snow…but…
Good question…he has to be there for some kinda linebacking coach, I would guess?????
July 28th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake
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must have been Laker fans …
July 28th, 2010 at 6:55 am
good morning AM crew!
Hwnrdr, Exla, Tbone …
July 28th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Rockstar,
Greg Biekert is HC-in-waiting.
July 28th, 2010 at 6:56 am
What up NATION???
July 28th, 2010 at 6:57 am
… or, more likely, someone who got involved romantically with Michael Vick.
July 28th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Biekert would make a great linebacking coach, but he’s not head coaching material – not just yet. I think a lot of people agree that the Raiders coach-in-waiting is Hue Jackson.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake
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must have been Laker fans …
Ok, ok…enough about The Lakers already…come on now, Camp is in!!! I gues the question now is when is Rolando signing…he vowed to be in camp ontime…now what’s the story?
July 28th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Biekert was a hitter. Another one of AD’s late round gems. 7th round pick. Can’t remember whether he was waived or traded to the Vikings.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:03 am
He was traded to the Vikings….wasn’t it for a pick…because I know Napoleon whats his name was traded for Moss…(probably, based on performance, the worst deal ever…)
July 28th, 2010 at 7:07 am
tbone,
Hue Jack has plenty of work to do with the O.
Biekert was a coach on the field for a dozen years already.
With coordinators doing all the heavy lifting what is left for an HC but liaise with Al, talk to the media, make up a practice schedule and set a tone for the troops.
Not exactly quantam physics.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:08 am
I think it’s great that Richard Seymour is leading by example, that was a nice gesture joining the rookies on the bus trip to camp making sure they know it all starts here, his presence for a full training camp along with new faces like Houston, Henderson and Mike Waufle bodes well for this defense.
Welcome aboard Greg Biekert, you were a great player and a guy every Raider fan appreciated, good luck.
R.I.P. Mr. Jack Tatum, you belong in the Hall of Fame and as opposed to many current members, nobody will ever forget about you.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Good Morning M, Marley…
Marley…I agree!
July 28th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Lonetree:
All those things you mentioned are things that HueJack is doing right now. It doesn’t matter how many years of coaching experience you have (Rich Kotite), it’s what you bring in terms of presence and drive. It’s what the Raiders need – it’s what HueJack has.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:16 am
If crybaby T.O. makes it into the HOF before Jack does, I’ll never visit Canton again!
July 28th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Da kine mornin’ to you Hwnrdr.
Marley Esq.,
Biekert was the only one I ever saw get in Gannon’s face when Rich needed called out. I loved that.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:20 am
read this article:
http://oaklandraidersschedule.com/top-draft-pick-mcclain-vows-to-not-hold-out.php
July 28th, 2010 at 7:20 am
I saw da kine, and it opened up my eyes, I saw da kine
That would be something good having Biekert jump in peoples faces…
July 28th, 2010 at 7:21 am
yes tbone,
Hue Jack could be HC material.
He could also be better hands on working with the O and letting someone else worry about deciding about how the special teams are going to be run, or what defensive players have to cut etc. etc.
The Peter Principle is never far from reality.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:21 am
No sign of McClain, by the way, on the rookie bus or at the Marriott.
-Jerry Mac
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good example ROMAC!
where’s Capt Kirk ???
July 28th, 2010 at 7:24 am
I just don’t want to see another Matt Millen. I loved him as a player — but once he got out of player mode, he was an absolute reject as an NFL higher-up.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:24 am
what has Greg Biekert been doing the last 6 or 7 years ???
July 28th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Matt Millen would be a great puppet GM in Oakland … like Ron Wolf & Bruce Allen
July 28th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Matt Millen = The Peter Principle
July 28th, 2010 at 7:28 am
M: where have you been?
The Peter Principle has been renamed “The Ob@ma Principle”
July 28th, 2010 at 7:29 am
meetings for the next several hours
BBL gents!
July 28th, 2010 at 7:30 am
McClain is probably working out contract finalities as we speak. There’s been no talk of a holdout and he has said alll along he fully expects to be in camp. Have patience, my brothers, the deal will get done – probably by the end of the day.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Let’s hope Biekert has a little more success with his prodigy than Eddie Anderson did.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Gotta go, Nation. You can keep up with McClain through NFL Network, Raiders.com and the Bama blogspot.
July 28th, 2010 at 7:32 am
JustFB,
you talkin’ ’bout Travis Goethel?
July 28th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Lol…..not quite
July 28th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Trade DMAC for Greg Biekert!
July 28th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Trade DMAC for a #32 commemorative Jack Tatum patch!
July 28th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Stop hating on DMAC!!!
I can’t wait until he cracks a 1000 yards rushing and another 500 catching and watch you maggots try to hang on the hair off his balls as he sprints down the field for another TD!
If you want to hate. Hate on Denver you idiots or join them in mile high!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Ok… Tatum passed away. RIP and condolences to his family. That being said, LETS MOVE ALONG NOW.
Time to find out what is happening with McClain’s contract talks, how Cable will approach practices during the first week of camp, and who the starters will be.
Go to work Jerry!
July 28th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Im not hating on DMAC. I just think the running joke of “trade dmac” lines is funny. Relax bud, you are going to have stroke if you let things like a football blog get you all worked up.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Bite me CJ. DMAC has done nothing to merit your foolish ass sucking. Kid fumbles 3x as often as he should, never gets 100 yds, is fragile, and has stumbling issues (per Jerry, not just me). FOR A #4 PICK?
As A Raider, of course I wish he were a better player. But he ain’t. Kid is a menace to victory.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Harvey Williams > DMAC
July 28th, 2010 at 9:06 am
http://napavalleyregister.com/sports/
here are a couple pics from the first bus
July 28th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Good morning all.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:15 am
TEST
July 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Does work…….good.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Remember Biekert smacking the crap out of a Bronco during a Monday night game in Oakland.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:18 am
damn Bo, brutal as usual on Dmac huh. Waiting for Dakota to come her defense. Her as in Dmac. Didnt Parcell refer to one of his 1st round receivers as Her in camp?
July 28th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Yeah Bo, that is the type of response I was looking for. This blog has been getting real lame talking about politics and BS for about a month now. I am glad to see there is a Raider fan out there who still likes a good blog fight every now and then.
For the record he does need to step it up and I don’t think his issue is just breaking tackles. He runs to stiff with his speed he needs more swivel, juke moves etc.
Now for the record kiss my @$$. LOL!!! : )
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Bite me CJ. DMAC has done nothing to merit your foolish ass sucking. Kid fumbles 3x as often as he should, never gets 100 yds, is fragile, and has stumbling issues (per Jerry, not just me). FOR A #4 PICK?
As A Raider, of course I wish he were a better player. But he ain’t. Kid is a menace to victory.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am
By the way not doubt DMAC needs to hold on to the ball more. Maybe he and Adrian Peterson (more productive but he fumbles his @$$ off as well) need to start carrying the football like Tiki Barber had to do.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:29 am
RIP Tatum!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was a Raider & a Buckeye!
God bless his family.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:29 am
The raiders have one of the best traditions at the saftey position in football history. These guys could fly around the field and lay you out! Tatum, Atkinson, Lott, Even Eddie Anderson! I would love to see Branch and Mitchell, carry on the tradition. People kill big al for the way he evalutes talent, and his his single high philosophy, but check yourself. Davis knows how to build a secondary. Dont look now but I think he is on to something again. All we need now is one more very good corner, Johnson is good, but I cant wait to see this Mcfadden kid. Hayes ( the judge ), and Haynes the greates corner tandem I have ever seen!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:32 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Stop hating on DMAC!!!
I can’t wait until he cracks a 1000 yards rushing and another 500 catching and watch you maggots try to hang on the hair off his balls as he sprints down the field for another TD!
If you want to hate. Hate on Denver you idiots or join them in mile high!!!
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I second that….
July 28th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Greg Biekert on the staff…YEAH BABY!
Biekert for HC in 2011!!!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Biekert for HC in 2011!!!!!
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Anyone know the odds!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Fair enough CJ! BTW, I still want DMAC to live up to his draft slot. I would love to be proven wrong, as I have told Dakota many times.
The fumbling is my main concern. FYI, he fumbles twice as much as Peterson on a per touch basis. If he can handle the ball better his skills can be well used as a receiver.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Fair enough CJ! BTW, I still want DMAC to live up to his draft slot. I would love to be proven wrong, as I have told Dakota many times.
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….but he knows I don’t believe it lol.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Where are all of those people that were on here asking big Al to step down???? What happen to everyone that was so upset that we didnt get Mt. Cody??? We might be looking at one of the greatest raider defenses of all time in a year or two!!!The biekert hire is pure genious! If anyone fits the Plunkett mode its Campbell. Rocket arm, mobile enough to buy time, understated personality, loved by teamates, leads by example. On offense we have speed all over te field! Speed kills!!! Dmac and Bush, Wheatly Kaufman any one? Our new thunder and lightning have better hands! I have seen this movie before, and it ends in silver black glory! In a year or two our offensive weapons will mature and grow together, and our defense will gel! I was not a cable fan, but i love him in the managers role, like Madden and Flores, let the coaches do their job and cable just oversees the operation. Jackson and Marshall bring the fire. And lastly the elephant hybrid D, mixed with our pressure man to man, hang on to your hats kiddies this is going to be nuts! davis the man you love to hate has done it again, very soon we will be challenging for the super bowl again! we never rebuild we only reload!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:44 am
mistic1 Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Where are all of those people that were on here asking big Al to step down????
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PLEASE AL, STEP DOWN!!!!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:45 am
“…a menace to victory.” now there is fine turn of a phrase. Good one BoSJack.
menaces to victory (solution)
1) devastatingly poor QB play (addressed)
2) turnovers (with #2 flushed #20 has to recalibrate)
3) WTF play calling leading to time of possession issues (addressed)
4) shoddy run defense and tackling (addressed)
5) ill-timed and ill-conceived penalties (anti-Raider Zebraism aside, needs addressed on a weekly basis)
6) dropped passes and would-be interceptions (concentrate! it ain’t Jack Tatum bearing down on you!)
July 28th, 2010 at 9:46 am
“we never rebuild we only reload!”
LMAO…I guess you can say after the past 7 years we sure don’t know HOW to rebuild….
July 28th, 2010 at 9:48 am
M,
Don’t forget about piss poor special teams play (excluding Jano and Lechler of course)…was that addressed?
July 28th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Wait and see.I thought we’d turned the corner 2 seasons ago when we beat Houston and Tampa.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:49 am
@ Dakota,
I respect that, at least you have the balls to show up!
But you have to admit in all of football or professional sports at least davis gives a reason to get excited almos every year, most owners do not. Also we have played for championships and super bowls in every decade but the ninties and in the ninties we made the playoffs and afc title game! You dont like what we have done so far this off season?
July 28th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I hear Childress has AP carrying around a 50# football to develop his carrying strength to reduce his fumbles…
July 28th, 2010 at 9:51 am
If fumbles are a problem for Dmac then I’m sure Hue Jackson will be working on it.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
LOL @ Lonetree.
Add:
Lack of football during summer (ADDRESSED!)
July 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Bcz24,
I read that AP has been toting around a football which is filled with sand. weight, one stone.
July 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am
@ Dakota,
hey you cant be right every time, you cant win every year. If you look at the big picture though there are few great franchises and the raiders are perinial winners that have hit some lean years, it happes to every team. Noone would argue that the steelers are not a powerhouse of a franchise, but they were in the doldrums throught the eighties and most of the ninties! The cowboys have made a come back but before the last couple fo years you have to back to the aikman era to find a good cowboy team. How about the niners we remeber what they did in the eighties and ninties where are they now? In reality once you disconnect from the espn sound bite mentaltiy you realize that 7 years really isnt that long, and compared to other great sports teams We typically dont stay down as long as most!
July 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Dakota,
feel free to contribute to “menaces to victory” list.
(notice I didn’t list your boy first).
7) lack of return game (Jacoby, c’mon down)
July 28th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Time to go.
July 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Mistic1,
Al used to give me reasons to be excited about football….but that was when I was a kid and didn’t understand that Eric Dickerson was old and useless….and so was Roger Craig….and so was (enter name of old vet here). New coaches every couple of years, and now head coaches that aren’t even qualified to coach college ball……
I think Al has made some solid moves this offseason by demoting Cable and dumping Russell. But the draft is always a crap shoot. Prior to the draft Charlie Casserly said Rolando McClain doesn’t make many big plays, doesn’t cover well and doesn’t shed many blocks for his size…so I am not sold on the draft. Certainly better than drafting a WR with hands of stone, but we’ll see.
I like the theory of Henderson, but he is ancient…
I don’t like out LBs in pass coverage….
We didn’t do schyt to address our o-line…couple of draft projects isn’t good enough. For someone who won SBs due to great o-lines, Al sure as hell avoids getting quality o-linemen…too stuck on trying to find big armed qbs, fast wrs and DBs to worry about the o-line I guess.
Undrafted FAs for the FB position….can’t count on that.
Marshall is still a DC who’s run D normally is in the bottom half if not bottom third in run D.
Cable is still around the team as Timeout Coordinator when he should be using his limited coaching abilities to coach the o-line.
I like Hue Jackson (because he has to be a better OC than Cable and he comes from a team that ran the ball)
I still believe that Al made a mistake in allowing Rathman and that special team’s coach to leave….those were quality coaches who have yet to be adequately replaced.
I like Campbell better than Russell obviously, and so I am holding out hope that defenses will have to respect our passing game at least a little this season.
I like Murphy, but I still would like to see DHB catch a ball or two in actual games instead of being the ultimate zone clearer or whatever.
I like Bush and McFadden….if we actually use them…
I like our chances of getting to the QB….if we blitz with our new LBs…
Still a ton of questions in my mind, but I certainly feel better about 2010 than I did about 2009…but by how much? Just a little…I am hoping for 8-8.
July 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Hey #145. Don’t forget Vann McElroy!
July 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Terrence Cody passed his conditioning test and is now on the active list.
Damn, kid must have done some Tae Bo in the last couple of days!
July 28th, 2010 at 10:24 am
A true legend will be missed!
July 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Trade DMAC for Tom Rathman and Brian Schneider!
July 28th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# Dakota Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Terrence Cody passed his conditioning test and is now on the active list.
Damn, kid must have done some Tae Bo in the last couple of days!
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Either that or he threw up a ten pound ham.
July 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Dakota
My blitz happy friend, here’s a thought what if the defense can actually rush the QB without depending on th blitz. It’s like some of you can’t see past th blitz. The blitz can be an effective weapon but it’s not the end all to be all in defensive concepts.
When you blitz you are actually xposing your defense as much as helping it. It depends on who you’re blitzing. IOW who the QB is and who you’re sending. All you guy’s ever think about when rushing the passer is the blitz. Playing great defense is playing great defense either you can or you can’t……….period.
In my book you use your front4 if they struggle you have a guy for 3rd and long. An edge rusher in recent years it hasn’t matterd wether we blitzed or not we still sucked rusher the passer. A talented defense doesn’t need to blitz as often. Now coaches rely heavily on it because they don’t have the talent to get to the QB. The Indy Colts rarly EVER blitz they use those two edge rushers mainly. That’s how you play dominant defense.
Now most will loook at the 3/4 scheme and say they blitz all the time. That is because that defense relies on and was biult to blitz. They are trying to use better athletes to get to the QB, with 7techigue types who drop and rush something they call the zone blitz. It’s a very different concept. But if you notice they rarely send more than 5 players and mostly only 4 which essentially a 4 man front it’s just utilizing different angles.
We ran that same defense in the late 70’s early 80’s and won 2 SB’s with it. But man please get a better grasp as to what the blitz is all about.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
LOL….I told everyone they were overreacting to Terrence Cody not passing the physical.
What did that last, one day? He will be practicing and playing by this weekend, and probably will help improve an already dominant defense.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Pittsburg zone blitz scheme is one of the most effective in the league… but they have some big nasties on the line who effectively neutralize o lineman. It remains to be seen if we can do something like that this year, but I highly doubt we will approach anything close to Dick Lebeau’s ZB scheme
July 28th, 2010 at 11:07 am
It isn’t as much about blitizing, as it is about being creative.
You just blindly blitz, you will eventually get burned. If you just line up the same everytime, you will get burned.
You have to show different looks, and make the QB have to think and re-think in those few precious seconds before the snap.
We started to do this last year, and I expect to grow from it this year.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Priesttj,
I agree with what you are saying. I am just not sure where the sacks are going to come from on OUR front 4…Seymour’s production is on the decline, so is Henderson, Kelly isn’t getting to the QB….in theory of course it is best to put pressure on the QB with the front 4….I just don’t see where we have the personnel to do so, thus I think Wimbley might be the key to getting pressure on the QB this season.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
LMAO at the 1,000 yards rushing and 500 yards receiving prediction for D-Mac.
Hey I will happily eat some crow and take that. But it ain’t happening. I think he could actually have more than 500 yards receiving, but he has shown nothing that supports he could handle an increase in his workload to the point that it would support those numbers.
He’s missed 20% of his potential games, with three different injuries, while only getting around a dozen touches a game. If he give him 20+ touches every week, he might turn into dust.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
@ Dakota,
Your pont about the o-line is well taken, and i agree to a point. I think more work will be done to adress that next years draft, becuase the guys we wanted were off the board by the time we picked. You are right though great raider teams have always had the dominant line play. Rathman is a great coach, i was also not pleased he left, but we dont know what is money demands were. Cable is a terrible play caller, i think his strength is personal relationships. You can see that his players love him, now move over and let the x and o guys do their thing. Marshall is a good coordiantor that when he has the horses gets it done. the seattle seahawks rode his defense to the bowl. the elephant scheme is one of my favorites and is going to fit well here. 8-8 will be a really good start! I think 9-7 is where we will end up.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Of course they have to put Cody in there. He is a first round pick and they already guaranteed his money. But it doesnt mask the fact that he showed up to his first ever professional job out of shape. Cody = Jawalrus. Tons of potential and risk on personal behavior. Thank god Al Davis passed on him.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Dakota
Wait a minute!!!! you named all the DT’s, you don’t rush the passer with DT’s you rush the passer off the edge. OUR edge rushers must do the job. Matt S primariy Houston, T Scott and the other kid what’s his name. You have to have guy’s who you feel comfortable with that can bring the heat. DT’s can somtimes push the pocket but primariy you use guy’s who are fleet of foot. Dez Bryant and Houston I think will prove very useful as far as an inside rush. But the main guy is Matt S he must show what I saw in college. This kid has the ability to be a premier edge rusher. So we’ll see what happens.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
gotta go
July 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Priest,
Seymour is our RDE in case you didn’t know that….
July 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
If he give him 20+ touches every week, he might turn into dust.
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HAHAHAHAHA. Tragic but true.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Zone blitz is awesome, but the press man to man is can be suffocating as well. A good press man to man will give you flexibilty to send the surprise blitzer from almost any position with out leaving as many holes open in your defense. The zb scheme leaves alot of holes, the trick is to disguise where it comes from so the qb’s and recievers have trouble finding the holes. The philly game last year showed what we can do with press man to man, mixing the elephant blitz. we couldnt rely on it last year becuase we lacked depth on the line and couldnt stop the run. philly isnt a great run team so we had the green light. lets see what we can do now that we have major upgrades on the defense.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Maybe with Houston here Seymour might move to DT on obvious passing downs next to Kelly…we’ll see. Hope it works.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
You have to show different looks, and make the QB have to think and re-think in those few precious seconds before the snap.
We started to do this last year, and I expect to grow from it this year.
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Agreed
July 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Cody was a second-round pick.
These humoungous DT’s are always at issue of being out of shape in camp, and most of them at least have a few years of kicking azz in the middle.
Cody won’t have a long career, but he will help the Ravens defense at some point in his career.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Turn into dust LMAO!!!!
I think he could gain a 1000 yards “if” he stays healthy and I know so far that is a big “if.”
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
LMAO at the 1,000 yards rushing and 500 yards receiving prediction for D-Mac.
Hey I will happily eat some crow and take that. But it ain’t happening. I think he could actually have more than 500 yards receiving, but he has shown nothing that supports he could handle an increase in his workload to the point that it would support those numbers.
He’s missed 20% of his potential games, with three different injuries, while only getting around a dozen touches a game. If he give him 20+ touches every week, he might turn into dust.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Of course they have to put Cody in there. He is a first round pick and they already guaranteed his money.
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AIG: Cody was actually a SECOND round pick, taken after the Raiders added yet another DE to the roster (Lamarr Houston) with nobody inside to clog the middle
thank goodness John Henderson was available after the draft!
July 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
This year im sure we are going to see seymour line up all over the place as well as houston and scott, this is going to make our press / elephant very imaginative, and fun to watch! kelly suffered the last two years with warren as his running mate, and still was one of best at his position in terms of tackles made. Also sapp lacked the discipline to play gap control, with a more sound dt next to kelly, he can go back to his real strength penetrating the line. kelly and hendo will be a good tandem 1st and second down, and seymour moves inside on third to let our young guys bring the heat off the edge. Now if we can find a way to get mm#34 on the field with branch.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I stand corrected that he was a 2nd round pick. However that doest not mean that he already has guaranteed money and showed up to his first job unprepared. He has a track record of showing up out of shape. That says alot about who you are as a person.
I think he will do fine for a few years in Bal but he would have never succeeded with the RAiders and Al Davis mgmt style of letting the players getting away with murder.
Had he shown up out of shape for the Raiders, we would have made CNN ESPN NFL and especially Yahoo Sports front page with Mike Silver doing another hate article.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Does anyone think we need anoter RB with all of DMAC and Bush’s injury issues?
July 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Agree with AIG and Priest …
Glad we passed on Cody
July 28th, 2010 at 11:44 am
what could go wrong from this point forward, besides injuries?
-Henderson & Heard dumped in favor of Joseph & Boschetti
-Higgins & Watkins dumped in favor of N. Miller & Holland
-Howard & R. Brown dumped in favor of Nixon & Norris
-S. Brown or Boyd dumped in favor of Eugene
-Tonga or Moline dumped in favor of Reece
July 28th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Cody is terdell sands, cant pass on the bisquits long enough to play in our defense. However he is a nice fit for a 3-4 scheme where he can platoon, and only play a couple of downs a series. Davis did the right thing, and hendu will help us stop the run.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:48 am
LHouston was a DE, that was switched to DT as a junior..
July 28th, 2010 at 11:48 am
One has to wonder if Nick Miller can be that dumpoff machine (like Welker) for JC.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:48 am
McFadden will be a stud
Cody will be a stud
if you don’t agree, you’re wrong
The End.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:51 am
One has to wonder if Nick Miller can be that dumpoff machine (like Welker) for JC.
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trade Nick Miller for Julian Edelman straight up, let’s find out!
NM is NOT Wes Welker 2.0
July 28th, 2010 at 11:55 am
pretty funny that you guys don’t think big fat DT’s are useful in this league or that they only last 3 or 4 years!
Ted Washington, Sam Adams, Grady Jackson, Jamal Williams, Albert Haynesworth, Kris Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, Pat Williams, etc suggest something quite different … even our very own John Henderson
July 28th, 2010 at 11:56 am
RRS,
Bro, you’re killing me here. Do your statements ever come with any fact to back them up?
Cody has never taken a professional snap.
Dmac has proven to be useless in his first 2 years. YES USELESS!!!
We havent even seen Nick Miller in a regular game yet. From what we saw of him, he did well in the preseason in all areas they asked him to play.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:58 am
LHOUSTON is going back to his natural postion….
July 28th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Let me remind you…Casey Hampton.. probowler from Pitt.
Made probowl from 2003 to 2007. Showed up 2008 out of shape and did not make probowl. Showed up in shape in 2009 and made the probowl.
There’s a track record for you when it comes to being in shape to play football. Yes they are big and fat but there is a football big and fat and there is a big turd and fat.
July 28th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Do your statements ever come with any fact to back them up?
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No.
do yours?
July 28th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RIP assassin, the best raider safety ever
!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
RRS,
yes and I have proven them to you time again. If you have memory problems, then just re-read my post on Casey Hampton above…you know the very same DT that you tried to use for your argument that I quickly debunked yesterday.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Grady Jackson is a perfect example of what a raider 4-3 tackle should be. You have one tackle as a guy that holds and closes gaps and the other tackle penetrates and pushes his gap, collapses the pocket, forces the rb’s outside. This is kelly’s strength, we have only needed some one to match him up with. henderson is the perfect fit, and we can draft or free agent next year if he is out of gas.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
1. Cody has yet to take a professional snap and showed up out of shape….FACT.
2. DMAC has been useless the past 2 years for the Raiders…FACT.
3. Nick Miller was successful in his roles as a returner and WR for the Raiders in the preseason last year. FACT.
would you like more RRS?
July 28th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I don’t think it’s just the Purple Drank that’s got us feeling good about this season. In addition to the big additions and subtractions let’s not forget that the league is designed, via the draft, to balance things out and give all teams a chance at success.
Even though the Raiders have had some questionable drafts, they are probably, on average, assembling better players than teams that have been drafting much later. Therefore it’s really no surprise that they have so many young players who it would appear are either about to break out or at least contribute in important ways. The safety position is a good example; Huff is finally coming around, Branch could be a Pro-Bowler in the next couple of years, and MM34 waits in the wings.
How many teams have a better lineup of YOUNG talent at WR? Chaz could breakout this year. Murphy is already dangerous. DHB might contribute. JLH might get his testosterone back, and Jacoby Ford waits in the wings.
I say pour me a double shot of the cough-Aid and let’s get this season started.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Let me remind you…Casey Hampton.. probowler from Pitt.
Made probowl from 2003 to 2007. Showed up 2008 out of shape and did not make probowl. Showed up in shape in 2009 and made the probowl.
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AIG – the Steelers won the 2008 Super Bowl in large part due to the play of Casey Hampton.
just because somebody fails to make the Pro Bowl doesn’t mean they weren’t effective
Albert Haynesworth, Vince Wilfork & Jamal Williams are all SOLID football players that got more votes than him … click this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Pro_Bowl
Hampton made the 2008 Pro Bowl as an injury replacement for Jamal Williams!
what were you saying about FACTS again?
LOL!
July 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Forget nick miller, and jlh, jacoby ford is the real deal. Ford, DHb, and Dmac, mix in some draw plays, screens, reverse, and bubble screens this team is going to kill teams that try and blitz.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Nick Miller was successful in his roles as a returner and WR for the Raiders in the preseason last year. FACT.
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link? source?
July 28th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves with putting too much weight (pun intended) into the first day of training camp.
Guys can show up in their best shape of their lives and fall on their face, and guys can show up out of shape and have a great year.
Cody isn’t going to be a full-time player anyways, and it is not like the Ravens NEED him. He will be phased in, and I doubt there is an interior O-lineman that is looking forward to blocking him, man boobs and all.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Zach Miller has been one of the best TE’s in the league the past 3 years …
ZERO pro bowls
does that mean he’s not a good player?
the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest man. you should know that by now
July 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
To be honest the one big thing I am excited about this year besides us winning. Is just being able to have a QB out there that does not make you have a heart attack every time he lets go of the ball! Russel had no short touch on the ball and a number of our skill players have the ability to take a screen or an out or a slant and take it the distance. Even Zach can take a short drag and go! Before anyone says Grads no disrespect but he has a weak arm and all the great makings of a scond string QB. I like Grads but he just ain’t it. Frye gym rat or not no production on the field.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Cody isn’t going to be a full-time player anyways
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true. Kelly Gregg is a stud, until further notice
he turns 34 years old this year though. the Ravens had to get a guy to groom and eventually replace him
Terrence Cody is that guy and he’ll do a good job for them. GM Ozzie Newsome can identify talent
July 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Wonder who will be the main kick returners in our preseason game?
Will JLH even be given a shot on punts? Is Miller the kickoff guy, and Ford the Punt guy? Or vice versa? Will Yamon get a crack?
July 28th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I agree and we have a QB now who can check down and make that happen! Nick Miller JLH we will see how gos.
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mistic1 Says:
July 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Forget nick miller, and jlh, jacoby ford is the real deal. Ford, DHb, and Dmac, mix in some draw plays, screens, reverse, and bubble screens this team is going to kill teams that try and blitz.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Fire Baby: I bet Rock Cartwright & Yamon Figurs will get in on the returner competition, as will JLH & little nicky …
Ford will have every opportunity to take this job and run with it
July 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
CJ,
Curious, how much arm strength do you need? It surely helps, but Drew Brees has a fairly weak arm, and he might be the best QB in the league.
Bruce threw the ball 55 yards in the air when he hit Murphy in Pittsburgh, does he really need to throw the ball 60+ yards to be successful?
Bruce may not be the ultimate answer, even as a backup, but it won’t be arm-strength that does him in. It will be the ability to stay healthy and not turn the ball over.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
“Russel had no short touch on the ball and a number of our skill players have the ability to take a screen or an out or a slant and take it the distance.”
So true. How many games we could have won if only #2 could have made the simple throw. Regardless of their other deficiencies, one thing most Raiders have is speed. Wasted the last few years.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
the arm strength argument is WAY overblown. you just have to have a guy that fits your system …
did anybody see Kyle Orton throwing for 3800 yards & 21 TD’s last year ???
July 28th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Glad everyone is excited to have a QB that has the ability to check down, because that is one of the main negatives on JC’s game, he checks down way too much.
Although a check-down on 3rd and 8 is much better than a sack or an overthrown turnover.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Accuracy, game management and leadership.
That’s what a QB needs. They can be 6 foot with a weak arm, and still win the Super Bowl (as we just learned).
July 28th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Chad Pennington has been pretty darn impressive (when healthy) throughout his career
this guy probably has the weakest arm in the league, but makes up for it with smarts & accuracy
July 28th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Accuracy, game management and leadership.
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Bruce Gradkowski might have 2 out of 3, but that first one (accuracy) is a biggie!
I’m not ready to call journeyman Bruce an accurate QB when his stats don’t enforce it
July 28th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Bruce needs to be accurate if he ever envisions himself a full-time starter.
This is true. But the book should never be closed on any 27 year-old QB. There is still time to improve and hopefully he did so this offseason and upcoming training camp.
Same goes with Jason. His accuracy is good enough, game management is not. This can also improve this year, as the book shouldn’t be closed on him either.
QB’s are not RB’s, they gradually get better and peak at around the 28-33 range. RB’s are already used up by about that time.
July 28th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
new post. Go Raiders!
July 28th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Leave your running backs on the sidelines with Ngata and Cody plugging up the middle…
Vegas you got the line on the Ravens for the SB?
July 28th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Monatana and young anyone? Arm strenght is a luxury depending on the system you run.
July 28th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
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