No word on Schilens
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 29th, 2010 at 7:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders completed their second practice session Thursday without wide receiver Chaz Schilens, who left the field early on the session accompanied by a member of the athletic training staff and did not return to the field.
Schilens, who missed the first eight games of the season with a broken metatarsal on his left foot and had two surgeries since, was not limping and its not known if his foot was the problem.
About 30 minutes after practice, Schilens emerged from the hotel and walked back to the field house and still was walking without a limp.
The Raiders had no comment on Schilens’ early exit and the interview sessions had concluded for the day.
Practice resumes Friday morning at 8:30 a.m. Thursday’s second session contained a few team sessions and some seven-on-seven sessions which went beyond the walk-through “learning intensive” pattern of the morning practice, with the defense mostly getting better of the offense in terms of defending the pass.
For more practice highlights, check out my Twitter page.
Apologize for some of the typos. The glare can make it difficult to see the screen on the field . . .
Apologize for some of the typ
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July 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Never would….
July 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
The typo’s are ok springer…Keep up the good work…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
This is the reason why TO would have been a good insurance policy….
July 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Kind of an anti-climatic day. Fairly boring.
Two weeks until kickoff!!!
July 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Hope Chaz is OK, if not look for JFORD to get more reps…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Do we really want the headaches of TO? The guy showed up late already to his first camp. I think we will be ok with our WR corp.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
was not limping and its not known if his foot was the problem.
About 30 minutes after practice, Schilens emerged from the hotel and walked back to the field house and still was not walking without a limp.
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Springer, was he limping or not???
July 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
ford is our guy….who is with me on this?
July 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
aig Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Do we really want the headaches of TO? The guy showed up late already to his first camp. I think we will be ok with our WR corp.
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Yes, I really did want the org to get TO…
Assuming your starters are DHB, Murphy, Chaz…
Chaz goes down, who replaces him?
July 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
JLH has not been bad. I wished he was more consistent and not such a head case at times.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
what other veteran receivers are available?
July 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
r8eray Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
ford is our guy….who is with me on this?
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1000% correct…
I will also go on record and say he will be RON….
Rookie Of the NATION…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
aig Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
JLH has not been bad. I wished he was more consistent and not such a head case at times.
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I like JLH, nowever he has had gator limbs sice the weddle hit….
JFORD <——- will emerge…Book it…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Thec
If Ford beats him, then that’s even better. I was willing to accept JLH as is so better than JLH is a bonus for me.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Im taking ford over jlh. Last year JLH was rocking the big daddy kane high top fade but he played more like queen latifah
July 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
What about…Ford?
Please excuse my typos…im swype typing on my htc hd2.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
aig Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Thec
If Ford beats him, then that’s even better. I was willing to accept JLH as is so better than JLH is a bonus for me.
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Agreed Brother…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
mistic1 Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Im taking ford over jlh. Last year JLH was rocking the big daddy kane high top fade but he played more like queen latifah
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Post of the day…ROFLMAO….
July 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
lamarr’s gettin my vote, i hope he keeps pushing the o-line, he’s leting them know what son the plate for sndays. we’ll just hope hope nobody gets injured in the process. has anybody ever seen tape of him playing de in college. a bigger dwight freeny would be swell.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
DHB working with Nnamdi AFTER practice.—Jerry’s twit thingy
July 29th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
tell chaz and jlh…..kiss the baby!!!
This is FORD country..yeah baby!!!!
July 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
f o r d
first on race day
July 29th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
r8eray Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
What about…Ford?
Please excuse my typos…im swype typing on my htc hd2.
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In my opinion JFORD in the S#!t…..
He is hella fast, however he grew up playing football, just so happens that he ran track. He was doing the same thing in high school that he was doing in college.
Most people disregard this, as being another nation getting the fastest guy pick…..
July 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
kvnbntly Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
lamarr’s gettin my vote, i hope he keeps pushing the o-line, he’s leting them know what son the plate for sndays. we’ll just hope hope nobody gets injured in the process. has anybody ever seen tape of him playing de in college. a bigger dwight freeny would be swell.
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Look up texas games his fresh, soph year…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Chaz has already went down to a certain extent, that guy is all time fragile. We’ve got to look beyond him he just is not reliable.
It would be nice to see Watkins or Jford take step forward. TO is not an option nor was he ever under Cable he jsut doesn’t want to coach guy’s like T.O.. I’d much rather get a journeyman type.
When I was listening to the Seymour interview on th website I just thought about the “Tuck rule” that we played NE and I thought he must have been somewhat impressed with the way we played in that game. Because this guy is really into this team right now. He likes being here, no question in my mind. And he wants to hlep the Raiders get back to that level of play.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
If we are relying on JLH and Jacoby Ford to maximize our passing offense in 2010, we are in deep doo-doo.
Zack Miller, DHB, Lou Murph, Chaz and Darren should catch around 75-80% of our passes.
JLH, Nick Miller, Ford, Meyers, Mike Bush, and Reese can all fight over the leftovers.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Kvnbntly, when was the last time Ford one major championship?
July 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
thanks
July 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
hey i’m a chevy guy
how this one f’dup old rebuilt dodge
July 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
just saying it fits the man
July 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
August 31 is the first roster cut, I wouldnt be surprised if Chaz is on that list…maybe even the PUP list.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
If we are relying on JLH and Jacoby Ford to maximize our passing offense in 2010, we are in deep doo-doo.
Zack Miller, DHB, Lou Murph, Chaz and Darren should catch around 75-80% of our passes.
JLH, Nick Miller, Ford, Meyers, Mike Bush, and Reese can all fight over the leftovers.
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Disagree 100,000%….. JFORD as a starter will be just as good if not better than Murphy as a starter…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Disagree 100,000%….. JFORD as a starter will be just as good if not better than Murphy as a starter…rookie season…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Agreed JFB,
I was looking at JLH/Ford/Watkins/Nick Miller/Whoever as a bonus 3rd or 4th WR. Our production must come from Miller, Murphy, and DHB (cuz Al starts him).
Chaz and McDust are so fragile I dont even bother counting them anymore.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
i liked what limited play i saw of watkins last year also
July 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Damn it I’m a Mopar fan dude… its cool I smell what your stepping in.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Thec,
You like Ford that much huh? He’s too little for me and I didnt really think much of his hilites.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Production will come from whoever is open….
July 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Ford may not be a key member of th WRcorp but I wouldn’t sell him tooo short. AS the year wears on he could find himself getting more opportunities. He will draw the worst cover guy on most teams and that is a huge advantage for us. You put that kid in the slot and he could cause some serious matchup problems.
Your not asking these guys to be stars on ly to make a play here or there. Big difference!!
July 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I Liked darren sporles at K state, knew he would be a hit as I told san diego fans down here….
JFORD > D sproles….
July 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
i got a soft spot for magnums, wedges, and hemis
that really doesn’t sound good though lol
July 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Ford is SO stinking fast it is scary. I know nothing bout the kid other then watching some youtube of him. One word Lighting!
July 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
gotta go, i’ll be back to read up on ya’’s divine insight though
thanks
July 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
What do you mean “too little” too little for what? Ford is perfect for the slot 5′9″ 185 same size as Napoleon Kaufman.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
See when I see someone that small I think of Steve Smith. that dude is a baller and he is so precise and strong. I dont think of Steve Smith when I watch Ford. The diff between Ford and JLH so far is that I see Ford is bigger built than that toothpick Gumby JLH.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
JFORD is a football player, he likes contact, and for a little guy dished some out beleive it or not….
As far as expetations for rookies, I expect him to be as good if not better than MURPHY <—Bad A$$….
as a rookie….
JFORD <——- Rookie Of the NATION…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Nap Kaufman <——- awesome, could bench 500lbs…
July 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Priest,
Please name for me how many slot 5-9 WR’s making an impact for their teams in the NFL?
July 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Best NFL football team in the history of the NFL?
1976 Raiders….
The End.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
size doesnt matter…. If he can ball he can ball. thats it.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
ford can be like a faster more explosive version of wes welker, with a little more veratility than wes, put him in the slot, motion him out of the backfield, run reverses and bubble screens, and slants. He has hands he is a football player. Dont sleep on this cat. He was every bit of explosive as c.j spiller at clemson.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Everyone has to have a niche. If you are a small dude, then you better offset with quickness or be a hell of a route runner or great hands. I read the scouting report that Ford is fast on the trackfield but doesnt play fast in the game.
Will wait to see how he performs. I hope you guys are right about him.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Wes Welker is not a huge target he may be bigger buit not by much. The slot is perfect for punt returner types very quick and fast. That’s why I’ve always ssaid JLH should be played there. Most cases safeties play the slot or the 3rd corner with Ford that is a mismatch. H’s just too quick and fast. I watched him in the senior bowl and he needs work there but once he gets the concept he can be a nightmare.
If you watch Percy Harvin the way they use him it’simpossible to matchup that’s what you want. DMC and this kid can be explosive in that role.
July 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Wes welker a slot guy led the league 2009..
July 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Priest,
I think Nick Miller is more of a Welker than Ford from what I watched so far on the tube. I may be wrong but just my opinion.
Percy Harvin is 5-11 and 202lbs. He is def not in the league of Ford. Harvin is a bonafied RB if they put him back there too.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
I am glad the scouting rpeort mentioned he ran track. that gives you the impression that he is another track star playing football. This kid has balleda ll of his life, he did the same stuff in HS, that he did in college. He is a football player first…
Should get a photo opp to shine…
Agree that JLH should be in the slot also…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
In Tim Browns rookie year he caught 41 passes working the slot just in the middle of the field. They couldn’t matchup with him Because Willie Gault and James Lofton were taking them deep. Left the middle for Timmie to work on LB’s.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Schilens is soft, time to move on. I see an injury settlement in his near future. We simply can’t count on him. It’s not that I dislike him or anything, but Jeezuz H, is he EVER healthy?
July 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Darren Sproles had all over 300 yards from scrimmage HIS FIRST 3 YEARS COMBINED!!!
Let’s hope Ford can be a little better than that.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
DMAC should also spend some time in the slot…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Nick Miller is as small as Ford but you’re way too gocused on the size factor. There is no size requirement to play the slot it’s just more effective if you use someone with great quicks.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Darren Sproles had all over 300 yards from scrimmage HIS FIRST 3 YEARS COMBINED!!!
Let’s hope Ford can be a little better than that.
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Would you want sproles on your team 2010?
July 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
doubt Ford? watch this it gets better as it go’s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp4_19YsG2A
July 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
small guys that made big impacts, here are a few names just off the top of my head. Dicky Post, charlie brown, lionel “little train” james & gary anderson, stump mitchell, more modern times our very own nap kaufman, wayne chrebet, randle el, steve smith santana moss. I could go on forever. Ford will be fine.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Would you want sproles on your team 2010?
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Are we going to have to wait 5 years for Ford to be good?
Sproles is vastly overrated IMO.
Look at his stats, tell me what I am missing?
http://www.nfl.com/players/darrensproles/careerstats?id=SPR711296
July 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
James Jett was small.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Darren Sproles = the poor mans Brian Mitchell.
Good at many things, great at none.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
John Stockton was small.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Earl Boykins was small.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Dude you want to argue F Sproles and his horse and carrarage… Or better yet tell me how bad JCampbell is going to be…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
watch out for this kid Ford….. WOW!!!
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
I hope Ford is good, and I am confidant he will be a shot in the arm for our return game.
But we tried the whole rookie starting WR last year. Let’s not do that again, please.
Chaz, DHB, Lou, JLH, and probably even Watkins should be ahead of him to start the season.
Let’s not be fooled with his use in camp. Nick Miller has all over camp last year, and we saw how that turned out.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Ford does not have to be great, that is what we dhb and murphy can become, he just needs to be dangerous when he does get his touches, which will be limited on offense. If chaz holds up ford is no 4, if chaz goes down he can be no03. No doubt the kid is dangerous.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Would you want sproles on your team 2010?
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Are we going to have to wait 5 years for Ford to be good?
Sproles is vastly overrated IMO.
Look at his stats, tell me what I am missing?
http://www.nfl.com/players/darrensproles/careerstats?id=SPR711296
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Thats your opinion, sounds a lot like your opinion of Jcampbell…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Sproles and Steve Smith are very quick. All the small guys mentioned above are very quick. Nap Kaufman was more quick than fast. I remember Kaufman being caught from behind on long runs but getting around the DE’s was easy for him.
In watching the tube on Ford, I dont see him making quick cuts and juking people out. However, I do see him making catches with people hanging on him. So I dont doubt that he is a footballer. I sincerely hope he is quicker than what I am seeing.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
I hope Ford is good, and I am confidant he will be a shot in the arm for our return game.
But we tried the whole rookie starting WR last year. Let’s not do that again, please.
Chaz, DHB, Lou, JLH, and probably even Watkins should be ahead of him to start the season.
Let’s not be fooled with his use in camp. Nick Miller has all over camp last year, and we saw how that turned out.
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You liet a guy that may not even be playing for us in Chaz…
Unless JLH spens in, who else would you play…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Spud Webb was small.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Watkins???? Ok…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Chaz S<—— Not sure how many games he plays, hope he contributes….
July 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Allen Iverson was small.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
lol….at least I am consistant!!!
All I saying is that if Darren Sproles was 6 foot 205, noboby would really care that much. But since he small, everyone thinks he is great.
This is his 6th year in the league. He has had two decent years, and he average about 250 yards rushing a year, 300 receiving and about 6th in the league in return averages.
Not impressed, and neither were the Chargers, that’s why they traded up to draft a RB.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
So who is the start X, Y and Z WR for the Nation 2010-11?
July 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
You remember Nap getting caught from behind???
REmind me I forgot.
I’ve seen this kid on reverses and he is explosive. Incidently Nap ran a 4.32 40 and I never remember him gettin caught from behind. If a guy had the angle on him yeah but not from behind no way.
Ford is not C J Spiller in terms of moves but he aint bad trust me.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
DHB, Murphy, and Ford!
July 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
JFB,
I would take Sproles on my team only so he doesnt kill the Raiders twice per year. We just can’t handle his quickness.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Aig not sure what your watching on Ford but he challenges people with his speed and wins. no he doesnt cut like cj but he knows where to go and how to get there very quickly. Just fire all we saw was a injured Miller??? i dont get what your trying to say ” we all saw how that worked out”
July 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Kaufman
Didn’t get caught from behind on this one mang…
http://www.videosurf.com/video/napoleon-kaufman-103717861
July 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
lol….at least I am consistant!!!
All I saying is that if Darren Sproles was 6 foot 205, noboby would really care that much. But since he small, everyone thinks he is great.
This is his 6th year in the league. He has had two decent years, and he average about 250 yards rushing a year, 300 receiving and about 6th in the league in return averages.
Not impressed, and neither were the Chargers, that’s why they traded up to draft a RB.
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Sorry but your posting of sproles stats does not consider that he was a third string back to LT, and Mike turner…
Also those years he was running backm KR/PR…
Sure Sproles is not an every down back same as DMAC…
But I can assure you the charers kept him around not becuase he is overated.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Kaufman got caught from behind, lmfao, you are a tool aig.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
r8eray Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
DHB, Murphy, and Ford!
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Thats whats up…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Thec I like those as starters but if chaz is healthy i think he is going to be a beast.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rHAIt74-po
Nap Kaufman doesn’t get caught from behind on this one either, matter of fact, he increases distance….
July 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
bigd2010 Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Thec I like those as starters but if chaz is healthy i think he is going to be a beast.
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Ok Bro, so who is your X, Y, and Z ?
July 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Vegas, its still too early too tell if ford will be good…but give him a chance. What do we got to lose? We ain’t got nobody in that position that you could say is a #1 starter.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Darren Sproles = reduced roled in 2010
July 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w003GCtWcNQ
that is to refresh your memory. he was out in the open but got caught. Just like McFadden. They both have similar 40 yard times but years from now you’ll all be saying he was fast but to me McFadden is more quick than fast.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Chaz, DHB, and Murphy someone WILL get hurt then we will get to see Ford.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I never said Ford wouldn’t be good. I just don’t see him starting as a rookie at WR.
Is that some type of far-out notion?
Let him return kicks if he beats out JLH and Nick Miller, shouldn’t be too hard, and develop as a WR over a year or two.
That’s all I ever said.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Darren Sproles = reduced roled in 2010
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wrong, He will get the same run as if LT was there…next…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I never said Ford wouldn’t be good. I just don’t see him starting as a rookie at WR.
Is that some type of far-out notion?
Let him return kicks if he beats out JLH and Nick Miller, shouldn’t be too hard, and develop as a WR over a year or two.
That’s all I ever said.
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So with that logic is was wrong to start Murphy a 4th round pick right???lol
July 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
JFB, I would like to go back and look at your comments about Murphy… Should be telling…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
aig Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
hey fkc face,
go to the one minute mark dumba$$. it was him in the open and the guys came on from the side to force him to cut back and when he cut back the other side was wide open to him but he couldnt finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w003GCtWcNQ
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STFU, go to be douche bag. You are a tool.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I wasn’t down on Murphy, and Murphy started because nobody was better or healthier.
Ford isn’t in that same situation, unless people get hurt.
What’s your deal? You come on here blowing smoke up your own azz because you “told” everyone how great Sproles was going to be, but I’m sure you weren’t saying shyt as 2 seasons passed and he hadn’t even scored a TD.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Sproles sucks azz.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
hey fkc face,
Is that the best of your counter argument?
I did your homework for you. If you are any objective fan at all you’d can easily count the number of times he got caught from behind.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dyvd_nap-attack-video_sport
Dont EVER FCKING test my memory again…. punk.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Let him return kicks if he beats out JLH and Nick Miller, shouldn’t be too hard, and develop as a WR over a year or two.
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So we use that logic Murphy sits….
Rookies should be expected to perform…
I expect JFORD to perform, and contribute…Gone are the days of “waiting” to see if they develop…
Look at all the rookies to come into the league and have an immediate impact… those HC’s played them why? Becvuase they can ball….Period
July 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Ok Thec, we put you down that Jacoby Ford can ball.
Roger.
Unless Chaz and someone else get hurt, he ain’t starting.
Take your beef up with Coach Cable.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Aig
Just as I thought you don’t know what caught from behind means. In that clip h is running through the defense and it collapses on him. H’s forcd to slow down twice and wait for a block. And the kid comes from an angle and gets him.
Caught from behind means the guy runs you down from behind without help. In other words his speed overwhelms you. You can’t outrun him. THat’s gtting caught from behind in that clip anyone can get caught from behind
July 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I wasn’t down on Murphy, and Murphy started because nobody was better or healthier.
Ford isn’t in that same situation, unless people get hurt.
What’s your deal? You come on here blowing smoke up your own azz because you “told” everyone how great Sproles was going to be, but I’m sure you weren’t saying shyt as 2 seasons passed and he hadn’t even scored a TD.
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I brought sproles into the convo to make a point aout small guys that had an impact on the team. I liked sproles at K state but F him now, as he is not a raider. So if you intepret that as smoke so beit…
However I am sure i never used the word great….
FORD isnt in the same situation…REALLY
The guy you list Chaz S may never see the field, how is that any diffrent? We also had vets like walker, and JLH….
July 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Ok Thec, we put you down that Jacoby Ford can ball.
Roger.
Unless Chaz and someone else get hurt, he ain’t starting.
Take your beef up with Coach Cable.
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Bro, I dont have a “beef” as this is the internet…
July 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Chris Johnson runs a 4.24 40 and in your desciption he’s been caught from behind as well. But if he’s in the clear with nothing but the endzone no one is going to catch him.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Nobody and i mean NOBODY can predict how good a player is going to be going from college to the pro’s. First a player can be good in one system and crapy in an other. Coaches and systems make players. Look at Gannon. How many years was he a back up? Gruden had an offense that Gannon fit, then he taylored the playes, players, and schem (i dont think i spelled that right) around him.
July 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
I’m going to wait to hear the injury report, if there even is one, to see if Chaz isn’t going to see the field.
If he is out, DHB and Murphy will start, right or wrong.
If Ford goes bonkers during the preseason he may have a chance, and if he does than fkn great. Put the best players on the field, no matter who, IMO.
Until I see it on the field, I’m not going all Nostradamus on a rookie. Like I said, Nick Miller was returning all kicks, taking handoffs and reverses, and catching passes all throughout training camp last year, so even that sometimes can be deceiving.
Don’t worry bro, if Ford is a baller I will give you your props, until than I’m calling your bluff.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
all Nostradamus on a rookie
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lol….Good one…
July 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Just fire you cant use nick miller as an example he ended up getting hurt.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
And I hope you are right, because I do believe Ford will be our primary kick/punt returner.
Just a lot of guys getting paid more, drafted higher, and who have played the last year(s) ahead of him on the depth chart.
He would really have to be a bad-azz to start right away. And you are right, if they can ball, they can ball.
We will start to find out in less than two weeks.
We can pick it up after tomorrow’s tap-dance session.
Raider On!!
July 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I know nothing of nick miller though. i live out of the country and last year had no tv or internet. From what i know i hope he is healthy and we get to see what he can do in the season.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Vegas, Take Care Bro…
July 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Nick MIller, J. Ford and JLH, Dmac, DHB Ready Set GO!! Maybe just for one play.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Later Just Fire.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
bigd2010 Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Nick MIller, J. Ford and JLH, Dmac, DHB Ready Set GO!! Maybe just for one play.
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that would be intersting to see all those guys at the same time running GO routes….
July 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Ayyyyyyy!
July 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Wow, lotta hate for JLH! You all hate JLH but give a free pass to all those players that didn’t do shhhh last year. DHB, 9 receptions…Schilens, missing time, at JLH got hit….free pass to Tommy Kelly and on and on..
We all have favorites I guess. I am rooting for JLH. I like his playmaking ability….now that we have a QB that can hit him…we should see him get back to 2008…
July 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
“at least JLH got hit”
July 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Still no DMAC news? I remember that youtube vid from 08 where Jano beat him in a sprint, outbenched him, and then drank him under the table after practice. Can’t find the link though…
lol
July 29th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I hope DMAC was carrying Echemandu’s pads as a rook.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
JLH was not a rookie – he gets no pass for last year. His sweet ass got drilled and he never had the nuts to get back on the horse. All hair and backflip, no stones.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
BSJ,
Schilens is hurt all the time and DHB had 9 receptions last year.
~they get a free pass?
July 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
SnB
No one is giving anyone a free pass, we’re picking our favorites. Doesn’t mean if JLH goes out there and gets it done watch how fast they support him. But he needs to concentrate and stay focused he’s the most tenured veteran here now and he needs to demonstrate some what that means. He could be the 3rd WR and should be but why isn’t he? A lack of focus…………..period
July 29th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Bo and Priest lying as usual
July 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
These young kids are very hungry and they wont wait in him.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:28 am
I thought for sure that Cable would nix the patty-cake training camp idea now that Jamarcus is gone…that lazy fool needed the special ed version of training camp. The other players are professionals, treat them like it.
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Dakota…what is your sports resume? ever do a training camp? ever show up for practise everyday, along with attending every class, and maybe partying when you could?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
And Thec….u my patna and all but shut up the Ford talk. The mfker aint better than Watkins and he will not be best rookie. I watch way more college ball than you do and Ford will never be better than JLH at WR
July 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
priesttj Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
SnB
No one is giving anyone a free pass, we’re picking our favorites. Doesn’t mean if JLH goes out there and gets it done watch how fast they support him. But he needs to concentrate and stay focused he’s the most tenured veteran here now and he needs to demonstrate some what that means. He could be the 3rd WR and should be but why isn’t he? A lack of focus…………..period
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JLH is a nobody in this league…he has to earn his place in it…just like anyone else…he has no special lock on any position.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Priest,
I am quite sure that JLH is focused. As to why he’s not penciled number 3? Draft status is why he’s seen as expendable. He’s done a hell of a lot more than DHB…and Schilens can’t stay healthy. Also the fact he was drafted in the 3rd round as opposed to the 1st round makes him easy to get rid of….
July 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Nap = no fumbles. Nap = heart. Nap = integrity. Nap = few injuries.
DMAC = palimony, turnovers and legs like Chapelle.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Higgins had more than a “fade” in his hair-do…he had a “fade” in his intestinal fortitude…time to give that shot to someone else…he FAILED
July 29th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
He really “Nancy’d” out after getting hit hard.
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I know Nancy. Nancy is insulted.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Higgins failed? Sure noticed good games when they played hiom in 2nd half of season
July 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Higgins = 49er material
July 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
rack time in CHitown. dodge the rats and gats ROG…
July 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Word? Stop copying Bob….be original….oops u are from SoCal so its impossible….anyways dmac lost 3 fumbles total…..many more backs lost more than 3……..NEXT
July 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Great day…long though! Enjoy the night and up at 8 for 1st practice! Peace all! Go Raiders!~
July 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
I don’t think this guy is really Br !en
July 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
or he is on Purple Drank
July 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
maybe it’s just me…but I thought “codeine” would be a white man’s problem.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
trade DMAC for the real Br!en
July 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
could Tammy Faye Baker have been our QB if she wasn’t so tranked out on over the counter pills?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Hey..I just got 30 million dollars…alright, now i can do all the depressants i can get my rich hands on!
I’m a winner!….look at me!
July 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
yeah right ROG…is he the WR with 22 whole catches to lead our team?
You gotta step up more than that….and don’t even go near the PR/KR returns.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Russell would ask regular everday folks where the “lean” was at……yes too much confirmation on that
July 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
and if Random Drug Tester = Ramdom dyck taster, then ROG = really overly g@y
July 29th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Name how many raider punt returners even did what he did in 08? KICK return? Lol he hasnt been on that in a while since Carolina game and still before than he had excellent returns until he fumbled that game
July 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
ROG is master of this site and is above all u peons when it comes to the Raiders
July 29th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Kaufman got caught from behind @ home against Denver. I think he went for 80 yards on that run.
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# priesttj Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
You remember Nap getting caught from behind???
REmind me I forgot.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
And Jhill shut up with ur hate for Mario…..Veldheer aint starting nor is anyone else at LT……and please slap urself for the B Campbell beast talk. Guy is on the bench this season
July 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
08 means crap in ‘10..and he is the reason why we had no return game since then…come on B, you know that as well as anyone.
But I’m hyped for this year, and IF it’s JLH on that part of our game…I’m down wit it.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Priest u old drunk man…..i named two distinct cases…..MNF in 95 vs Sd and at home vs den in 00….i was there……now go to bed
July 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I agree ROG…if Veldheer or Campbell (oline) are seeing playing time…we are hurting or we are the luckiest drafters in the world…which we aren’t.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
What return game did u ever have before Higgins? And KR wasnt him last season dumbass
July 29th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
never mind ROG…you are in this for yourself…not the RAIDERS…g’night.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Schilens gets hurt in non contact 7 on 7’s?
It better have been a cramp or something not at all serious or he has glass for bones.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Mista….run for That day was for 57 right after halftime
July 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I remember it ROG he ran through the left side of Denvers defense, correct?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I dont remember the Jordan play was that against Denver too ?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I hope this year wipes out your “once a year memories” that you are hanging on to…we are becoming a team that is going to do special things on a consistent basis…book it…print it…the end…period.
July 29th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Kaufman was headed towards the black hole south end zone. Who was the Bronco that caught him?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Mista hmmmmm i dont think it was ray crockett……a safety i remember but doubt it was Kennedy
July 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Training camp his here I’m not talking politics until Oakland is out of the playoff picture.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
live it up ROG…self-proclaimed, #1 Raider fan…it’s good for me cuz every Sunday, your bizzies and I know where you’re at, and we have at least 4 hours to have our fun.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
My god so is tommy kelly being cut or what? He cany play NT! We saw that in 06…..unless seymour goes to LDE this line is useless….start Henderson at NT
July 29th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
A winning season will be like a dagger through the heart of MR.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
how old are you guys?….so adolescent and under-developed
July 29th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Crap? sorry but i speak truth and sadly for u MR i mean RDT its been confirmed
July 29th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Now on to biz…….the Raiders better listen to the ROG or prepare for 8th straight losing season
July 29th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
# the ROG is ready for 2010 Says:
July 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
My god so is Tommy Kelly being cut or what? He can’t play NT! We saw that in 06…..unless Seymour goes to LDE this line is useless….start Henderson at NT
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We need Kelly. We need someone in the middle to be willing to drop trou and stop traffic. Funniest damn thing I’ve ever seen on live NFL TV.
Seriously, Kelly can be a force in the 4-3 if he puts forth the effort. The fact that he’s going to have serious players on all sides should bring his game back to where it needs to be. He’s not a NT. Never was, never will be. But, in the 4-3 he can be a force. Houston, Seymour, Kelly & Shonasty backed by our new Heavy Duty LB corps makes for one nasty front 7. Someone not putting out 110% effort will stand out like a sore thumb. I don’t see Kelly not putting out in that environment. Can’t wait for our new D to Tatumize the opposition. We have the tools to be a top 10 or better D.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
ever wonder why women only do it with you once?
but I get them repeatedly? They don’t care to have you for a second time ROG….they don’t dig your scene..,.just like the rest of us.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Schilens needs to get well and stay that way or hit the bricks. He’s of no value to us or anyone else if he’s always injured. GET IT FIXED Chaz! Take a hint from Ronnie Lott. His finger tip was a repeated injury so he just had it removed and went on to to the HOF. Professional football is a violent sport. If you are injury prone find another sport.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Burgess retiring from Pats ?
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation
Quote:
ESPN.com’s Len Pasquarelli, citing multiple unnamed sources, reports New England Patriots outside linebacker Derrick Burgess is mulling retirement.
Burgess did not report for the start of Patriots training camp Thursday at Gillette Stadium. The odd development comes after the 31-year-old Burgess chose to re-sign with the Patriots in June. His one-year contract has a $1.4 million base salary and included a $100,000 signing bonus.
If Burgess decides to quit, his absence would weaken an already uncertain outside linebacking corps. The Patriots ranked 22nd in sacks last year with 31. Burgess was tied for second on the team with five sacks.
Tully Banta-Cain led the way with 10. Defensive lineman Mike Wright also had five, and outside linebacker Adalius Thomas, since released, was fourth on the team with three sacks.
Burgess played all 17 games. He started four games at outside linebacker and two at defensive end.
Man, Al raped New England in that trade. 2 picks for a 1 year rental who had the same amount of sacks as Shaughnessy, yet Shaughnessy played limited time and is years younger ?
Way to go Al !
You got Kam Wimbley for the 3rd round pick , and you also got Walter Mcfadden with the 5th rounder. For a guy that is retiring.
Rape.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Right now the main O-line questions are who’s at RG and who is the center. Satele is a poor choice and Carlisle, on his best day nowadays, is back-up material. Our whole season is going to come down to O-line performance. The D will win us a couple of games but it is up to the offense to bring home the wins. Victory starts in the pits. I’m not sure we have all the right horses yet. RG will get fixed but the center position is my main concern. I guess we’ll just have to wait & see.
July 29th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Al’s biggest recent rip off of the Patriots was Seymour. I predict he will become this decade’s Raider version of Lyle Alzado, but even better. Seymour was a steal. We knew what we were getting and Al will be willing to pay for it. Seymour will end up as one of the great Raider players in S&B history. Good move Al Davis.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Nnam picked off a pass and handed the ball right to Hue. Message to Hue, who had playfully called out Nnam in OTA’s, Nnam will get ya.
LMFAO
July 30th, 2010 at 1:07 am
Man!
Talk about fragile!
Every freakin’ year Schilens walks off with a limp.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:12 am
SF Gate is saying that Schilens wasn’t limping and that he was seen half a hour after afternoon practice on the field, but from a distance, and seemed to be doing ok.
Maybe he’s just taking it slow.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:23 am
ESPN saying that Merriman is refusing to show up until the team promises that they won’t trade him this year-may not be there until the games start!
How about if a regualr guy did that, tell his boss that he wasn’t coming in to work unless his boss promised not to fire him for a year? Lol.
These Chargers are very precocious.
Someone should change Merriman’s diaper, he’s crying.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:38 am
Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeil of the Chargers are also ahead of themselves, holding out for the future.
All three may not be there at the start of the season?
Sounds good to me.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:10 am
DMAC at WR, even more so now.
July 30th, 2010 at 4:35 am
[...] Raiders wide receiver Chaz Schilens was unable to finish the team’s second practice session for undisclosed [...]
July 30th, 2010 at 4:42 am
Albert Haynesworth in silver and black Trading Kelly + a draft pick would probably get the job done if the Redskins aren’t sold on him. Kelly could play as a 3-4 DE, IMO.
July 30th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Was up another day another Chaz injury oh well did anyone expect him to stay healthy. Even with him Wr core was terrible without him worst in NFL. D will have to carry this team hope they will.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:06 am
The Raiders completed their second practice session Thursday without wide receiver Chaz Schilens, who left the field early on the session accompanied by a member of the athletic training staff and did not return to the field.
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opens the door for DHB & JLH.
people in Jacksonville used to call Fred Taylor “Fragile Fred” …
what are people in Oakland are gonna start calling Chaz Schilens ???
July 30th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I’m not to worried about Chaz as of yet! Until word comes down that he is in fact HURT AGAIN…
Anyways…good reads on ROMAC and Seymour~
July 30th, 2010 at 6:07 am
people in Jacksonville used to call Fred Taylor “Fragile Fred” …
what are people in Oakland are gonna start calling Chaz Schilens ???
Chantilly Chaz?
July 30th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Good Morning Fat Kidd, NMF, Rockstar…
Happy Aloha Friday~~~
July 30th, 2010 at 6:10 am
as in the Battle of Chantilly?
or France? LOL (i’d have to agree with you on THIS one)
July 30th, 2010 at 6:11 am
all I could think of was Soft Schilens or China Cabinet Chaz … we deserve better!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:12 am
tgif
July 30th, 2010 at 6:16 am
I was thinking more of Chantilly Lace…
But Maybe he was taking it slow…who knows. Reports said that he appeared fine. Anyways…someone posted earlier that DHB was working with Nam AFTER practice? Gotta LOVE that!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:18 am
“About 30 minutes after practice, Schilens emerged from the hotel and walked back to the field house and still was not walking without a limp.”
Cmon Jerry, the double negative is confusing!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:20 am
SF Gate is saying that Schilens wasn’t limping and that he was seen half a hour after afternoon practice on the field, but from a distance, and seemed to be doing ok.
Maybe he’s just taking it slow.
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ENGLAND: Chaz was full go at OTA’s and Jerry Mac said he was cutting hard with no restrictions, even was ahead of schedule
Cable was asked about injured players before camp opened and he said everybody is healthy and ready.
something ain’t right man and Terrell Owens in a Bungle now
the good news? Heyward-Bey, Higgins, Murphy, Watkins & Ford can get it done
July 30th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Well I’m not disappointed with the Chaz injury. Benn saying all along I HOPE we get 8 games from this guy.
July 30th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Sasha Vujacic on the trade block? I trust Mitch Kokchap to do the right thing…
July 30th, 2010 at 6:22 am
I was thinking more of Chantilly Lace…
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LOL!
fair enough. Chantilly Chaz works
July 30th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Lakers want Delonte West? Cougar bait? I loooove the idea of him guarding Lebaron.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/poll-question-shannon-brown-or-sasha-vujacic.html
July 30th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Sasha Vujacic on the trade block? That was a smart play bringing him in when Boston was looking to foul…
July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 am
the Cleveland Plain Dealer’s Brian Windhorst recently reported on Twitter that the Lakers were considering trading Vujacic and a first-round pick to the Cavaliers for Delonte West, increasing Brown’s chances to stay.
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BS!
No way Kupchak gives up a player AND a first round pick for Delonte West.
July 30th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Yeah, why would he do that?
July 30th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Rumors now have it that after game three of the playoffs, Lebron hit the town with Jay Z and Beyonce, and left his mom at the hotel. Delonte West apparently decided to stay at the hotel for one reason or another.
So now it is 3:30 in the morning and LeBron, after a night out, goes up to his mom’s hotel room to check up on her, and West answers the door in nothing but a towel. Other players on the team witnessed West in his towel as well.
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http://www.playerpress.com/articles/9262-lebron-james-mom-and-delonte-west-rumors-heat-up
July 30th, 2010 at 6:46 am
J Wiggle Says:
July 30th, 2010 at 6:31 am
the Cleveland Plain Dealer’s Brian Windhorst recently reported on Twitter that the Lakers were considering trading Vujacic and a first-round pick to the Cavaliers for Delonte West, increasing Brown’s chances to stay.
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BS!
No way Kupchak gives up a player AND a first round pick for Delonte West.
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Its a salary dump. Sasha = overpaid.
July 30th, 2010 at 6:46 am
So that’s why Lebron wanted to leave…the truth comes out!!!
So is that why the Lakers are after West? ROFLMFAO!!!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Delonte West + 1st rd pick = overpaid
July 30th, 2010 at 6:50 am
J Wiggle Says:
July 30th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Delonte West + 1st rd pick = overpaid
I AGREE!
Sorry Bo. I hear what you’re saying but West for Sasha and a 1st rounder? That is way too much!
July 30th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Now if they are able to trade Sasha’s expiring 6 million FOR a future draft pick, and then pick up Gloria’s man after Minnesota buys out his contract, then yeah. But giving up one of our picks AND the expiring contract?
Can’t see it.
July 30th, 2010 at 6:59 am
I agree, but jave read that Jerry Buss is forcing Kokchap to save some $$$$
July 30th, 2010 at 7:01 am
^have
July 30th, 2010 at 7:07 am
J Wiggle Says: the Lakers were considering
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July 30th, 2010 at 7:09 am
I can see saving $ and West is a better player than Sasha AND Brown.
But the way to do that would be to sign West for the minimum after Minny buys him out instead of taking on his 4 million dollar salary.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:09 am
new post
July 30th, 2010 at 7:11 am
DO NOT trade DMc for Delonte or his towel or Gloria.
Yep, finally some things are too disgusting as trade fodder for DMc.
mornin’ brethren, ladies.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
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July 30th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
[...] The Oakland Tribune reports that they have still not said why WR Chaz Schilens left practice early on Thursday: The Raiders completed their second practice session Thursday without wide receiver Chaz Schilens, who left the field early on the session accompanied by a member of the athletic training staff and did not return to the field. Schilens, who missed the first eight games of the season with a broken metatarsal on his left foot and had two surgeries since, was not limping and its not known if his foot was the problem. About 30 minutes after practice, Schilens emerged from the hotel and walked back to the field house and still was not walking without a limp. The Raiders had no comment on Schilens’ early exit and the interview sessions had concluded for the day. Enjoyed this post? Subscribe to Raiders Gab via RSS Feed or E-mail and receive daily news updates from us! Tags: Chaz Schilens [...]