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By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, July 31st, 2010 at 4:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Heading down to the penalty box shortly for the second practice.

Barring something of news value which needs elaboration, practice updates for the afternoon session can be found on my Twitter page.

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  • priesttj

    Raider O

    I think DHB is going to change a lot of opinions about him in a hurry. He has rare size speed ratio. A lot of people laughed when I posted that and I don’t think many are laughing anymore. DHB has world class speed and he is the only WR with that kind of size and physicality with thjat kind of speed. Randy Moss is the other but Moss is not a physical WR. AJ is very physical but he doesn’t possess speed like DHB. He really is a rare animal. That 44 inch vertical makes him a nightmare to deal with. That’s why Nnamdi always selects him after practice because there is no one like him and DHB is getting Nnamdi best. Just think about that for a second.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    DHB was drafted 7th overall and was the 1st receiver taken in 2009. He is supposed to improve and he is supposed to be a difference maker.

    I am pleased that he is rebounding from a totally atrocious and unacceptable performance last year. Shows he has character.

    But lets keep things in perspective, he was drafted to be the dominant receiver….not a role player.

  • priesttj

    Duh Yeah!! anything else?? it’s just justifying the pick, we’ve already said that.

  • Thec07

    priesttj Says:
    July 31st, 2010 at 7:46 pm
    Raider O

    I think DHB is going to change a lot of opinions about him in a hurry. He has rare size speed ratio. A lot of people laughed when I posted that and I don’t think many are laughing anymore. DHB has world class speed and he is the only WR with that kind of size and physicality with thjat kind of speed. Randy Moss is the other but Moss is not a physical WR. AJ is very physical but he doesn’t possess speed like DHB. He really is a rare animal. That 44 inch vertical makes him a nightmare to deal with. That’s why Nnamdi always selects him after practice because there is no one like him and DHB is getting Nnamdi best. Just think about that for a second.

    ++++++++

    Truth…

  • Thec07

    I have my bar b q sauce ready to eat all the crow served up by myself with regards to DHB…

    He is leading ALL WR’s this camp…

    Look forward to him ripping a whole is SD A$$…

  • Just Fire Baby

    I said from the beginning of last year that I thought DHB would have the best pro-career out of him, Darren and Jamarcus.

    People laughed me out of the forum pretty much.

    I think that one is a pretty safe bet these days.

  • Thec07

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 31st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    I said from the beginning of last year that I thought DHB would have the best pro-career out of him, Darren and Jamarcus.

    People laughed me out of the forum pretty much.

    I think that one is a pretty safe bet these days.

    ++++++++++++==

    Not sure if i was one of the ones laughing or not but that prediction does seem Nostradamus like….

  • Thec07

    And accurate…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    I am not attacking any of the players or belittling the progress that’s been made.

    But as AL Davis says “Just Win Baby” it is probably a little ahead of the game to be anointing players to Pro Bowl based on practices that have not included pads yet.

    Of course the regular season too. I personally like the direction of this team, but this team is going to go through the paces this year trying to bring all of the new pieces together. That may take time.

    Hope you all don’t get too frustrated if things don’t happen quite as fast you are predicting

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    wheres the fix? come on Jerry!

  • aig-raiders

    Gotta admit I will be with Thec eating my own words on DHB. Didnt hate him as much as others but didnt think he was a footballer to begin with. Man, he seems to be the star of camp so far on the O side based on these tweets.

  • lefty12

    So now everyone is on the “I told you so” wagon concerning DHB.Sorry,Priest,but last year you were blaming DHB for the bust and the offense in general being so terrible.

  • aig-raiders

    thats right. Priest was blaming dhb for Jawalrus’ poor performance.

  • priesttj

    SnB

    Hard work always pays off, at what point is hard to say but it will pay off. DHB has been the hardest working Raider this offseason and it’s just starting to pay dividends.

    No one is saying at any point this year we’re going to resemble “the greatest show on turf”, all I’m saying is DHB’s love for the game is very evident. In most cases that is the difference between just average and greatness.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Priesttj,

    No dividends have been paid yet. Dividends get paid with catches, yards and wins when the games count. Not practice without pads.

    He’s practicing better, that’s good. Lets see it transfer into games

  • lefty12

    AIG-in all fairness,he wasn’t the only one.

  • priesttj

    My onpinion of what I saw from DHB last year hasn’t changed he was green and so was Murphy. IN fact Murphy admitted leaving some 500 yards out on the field and he didn’t blame anyone but himself.

    AIG listen man anyone with half a brain knows throwing a struggling QB together with two rookies is a recipe for disaster. Maybe you think it should’ve worked. lol

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    DHB was awful last year. Period. Regardless of the shoddy QB play.

    As for the QB, JaDavis had no business being on the field at all and should have been made to earn it.

    Water under the bridge now. Let’s see if this team can compete this year. That’s the goal….play hard consistently and compete in most of the games this year.

    Wins and losses count in 2011

  • Raider Dell

    Practice is for the players to prepare the players, for each player role in the offense or defense.

    The players on offense must exhibit knowledge of their assignment and display the knowledge of that assignment. The player must show his ability to know what their role is and move towards perfection in performing that assignment.

    I know its hard to believe, but one player on offense or defense, who fails or can’t fulfill that assignment will cause the particular play to breakdown and the play, can be a rushed pass, a broken block,and its not completed, so the running play is shut down. All players on defense have to perform in rhythm, to have a successful play. That’s what makes football so hard, the incredible rhythm and chemistry to complete everyones given assignment perfectly.

    I’m glad DHB is showing promise, but again Campbell must read the defense accurately, blocking has to protect and DHB has to run his route in rhythm with the coordinated pass play.

    The great teams peform on sundays with more chemistry and executation and have less broken plays by their players in their assignments.

    The play has so many variables only the end result is a completed pass and so many others must perform their job to make DHB look good and Campbell as well.

  • lefty12

    S&B,what you are missing is by the way he is practicing and what he is showing in those practices gives others on the team more confidence and the knowledge our WR core could be a strength,not a weakness.You don’t believe the DHB of today is making Campbell feel more comfortable?

  • Dude

    There have been, what 3 practices and all the sudden DHB is a strength?? Man, sometimes I think Raider fan is the stupidest fan in all of sports. The Raider WRs as a group are the worst in the NFL. Period.

  • priesttj

    Lefty12

    I think DHB is giving Campbell confidence not just comfort, guy’s with that kind of talent can make a QB play better. WE can’t see practice but what I’ve been told and what I’m hearing consistently is huge concerning DHB. It’s almost shocking!!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Lefty12,

    Its good they are apparently practicing well. Glad to hear this as opposed to the nonsense of the past.

    This team is still in OTAs until they start practicing with pads and at least playing some preseason games.

  • priesttj

    It’s obvious that some in here just don’t get practice. 95% of the time players play the way they practice. Now you’re right we haven’t been in pads but that is just where they’re hitting amd taking hits. The toughst ;part for any WR is getting OPEN in the NFL. DHB got open last year he and the QB were never on the same page. Year two we have a experincd QB and a very confident DHB much different battery here.

    This isn’t rocket science if he can get it done in practice there is a 90% chance he’ll do it in a game……….period

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Saw an interview of Rolando McClain by G Papa with footage of Rolando running around the practice field the day he signed with the Raids.

    I was surprised at how slim he looked in a Raider uniform. Thought he looked much beefier at Bama. In fact, without the horse collar he wore at Bama his neck reminded me of Harvey Williams.

    Encouraging to read twitters noting him diagnosing and intercepting swing passes. Raids have an awful lot riding on McClain’s performance this year. He’s gotta be ready from the get-go. We’re asking for alot from a rookie. I believe he’s up to the task and should be more solid than Morrison even this early in his career.

    One question though, if McClain gets injured or is unable to go for whatever reason, who steps in for him ?

    Brown ? Goethel ? Wimberly ? Scott ?

    I’d be interested to know what the Raider contingency plan is in the event McClain has to miss some time.

  • lefty12

    Take a reading comprehension course dude.’Could be a strength’ is not the same as ‘is a strength’.Talk about stupidity-you are at the head of the class.As far as the worst in the NFL-that remains to be seem.Many young WRs blossom in their 2nd and 3rd year.That could very well be the case with the Raiders,and if it does happen they will be far from the worst in the league.

  • priesttj

    Lefty12

    Dude is not a very sharp guy…….he’s not responsible……if you know what I mean.

  • lefty12

    Agreed,Priest.I read an interview with Campbell by someone back east in Wash. and the thing that impressed me was the praise Campbell was giving our whole WR unit,especially DHB.With DHB’s size and speed,if the QB and him develop some chemistry,we could see some special plays between them.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Priesttj,

    What you are neglecting is that other teams are practicing well too. I am happy you are fired up about the season.

    Pads and hitting makes a huge difference. That’s practice. This is OTA like stuff right now. Trying to learn where to be and all that stuff. Let’s perform like this in pads with someone ready to hit you….let’s get open with the corners jamming the fell out of you and a hard hitting safety looming over the top.

    I cannot say the Raiders are heading to a Colts like precision based on SIX practices in shorts.

  • aig-raiders

    Priest,

    My Garbagegrowdski didnt seem to have much problem winning a couple of games under those 2 rookies. Try again pls.

    Dude,

    Long time no see. Still coming on here smarting your rears off huh? How’s USC? The last time I asked you mentioned “what violations” this time last year. lmao.

  • lefty12

    Last year the complaint was if they can’t do things right in practice how can we expect them to do it in games.This year they seem to be ‘doing it’ in practice and it is being downplayed because its ‘just practice’.I guess to some we just can’t do anything right.

  • aig-raiders

    SnB,

    Even though they dont have pads, I can assure it’s been rough out there. Langston Walker admitted as much that they go 100% at the lines. We played without pads and our WR got a concussion. Even Jerry agreed with me that we should just put the pads on and go full force.

  • aig-raiders

    Exactly Lefty,

    We should be happy that they have good practices. You need good practices to MAYBE win the game but you most certainly cannot win with poor practices.

  • priesttj

    Snb

    Dude relax man no one is claiming a Colts like offfense. We’re talking about ONE PLAYER tak it easy will ya’. I don’t know what the overall passing agme will loook like I’m just reiterating what I’m being told and the same things you’re hearing from Jerry and others.

    I would love to see a great passing game, do I expect one NO. Let’s just calm down a bit the only player I’m talking about here is DHB………period

    But I do know that you play how you practice it’s a truism. If you execute in practice you will execute in games………period

  • Raider Dell

    McNabb, and he was wearing No. 5. I didn’t think it was a particularly sharp first day for the Redskins latest starting quarterback, but I’m told by observers that he has already proven he can make throws that Jason Campbell never dreamed of in the past.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/07/29/redskins.postcard/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0vKKf9eFh
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Above quote by a washington exec is either the truth to Jason campbell difficulities in the west coast offense, or his inability to make certain throws as a QB, or a big lie to justify a QB change for McNabb and his performance thus far.

  • lefty12

    Dell,the hell with the Redskins,what do you expect them to say that McNabb can’t do what Campbell could?.All we can and should do is judge Campbell by how he does for us.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    When evaluating the quality of the Raider receiving corps, one must consider that this group of young men had the dumbest, most inaccurate QB in NFL history attempting to throw the pigskin to them.

    Yes, Murphy, DHB and Schillens are green but they also seem talented to me.

    Admittedly DHB didn’t perform well. The big question about him was his hands and he did nothing to lead anyone to believe that the belief that he couldn’t catch was unwarranted. But he does have that great speed that can’t be taught. With the right desire and coaching he could turn things around and be a force.

    Murphy had a very good rookie year. With a better QB he’d have had alot more catches and yards. His blocking on the long Miller TD vs. the Eagles was the Raider play of the year in my opinion. He’s a keeper.

    Schillens can be an upper tier WR. The only question is durability. He’s got the size, speed and hands to be one of the best. I’m really pulling for him to overcome the injury bugaboo that has plagued him so far. When I’ve seen him interviewed I was impressed by how well spoken he was. Seems like a real good kid.

    Has this group done much yet ? Nope.

    But given the right QB, some more experience and refinement, I think they can do plenty.

    Worst WR corps in the NFL ? Hardly.

  • Raider Dell

    Lefty,

    I agree with your comment #86, just a quote I read in the article.

  • lefty12

    Dell,the ‘skins will probably be one of the medias darlings this year due to the love affair they have for the rat.Here’s hoping they go down in flames.Never liked the rat-never will!!!!!!

  • Raider Dell

    Lefty,

    Let’s also be cautious with our own media, who may also be overstating camp performance, due to the abysmal camps the last three years.

    Last year, I recall a completed pass was a big deal. Many times Jerry tweeted, the ball on the ground and incomplete. Let’s be optimistic and let’s see for ourselves when the exhibition season starts.

  • lefty12

    I agree,Dell.But it sure is better reading what we hear so far this year as opposed to the last couple of years.Also,I doubt Jerry would sugar coat things,he seems to keep things in proper perspective.

  • Raider Dell

    Pads on Monday. We will read some different quotes from the scribes as the players play that physical part of the game.

  • lefty12

    Lets hope they continue to be positive.That is all we have at this point in time-HOPE!!!!

  • Raider Dell

    Lefty,

    Take care, off to bed.

  • lefty12

    Night,Dell.

  • priesttj

    Yes! hope based on what’s going on in practice. It’s like Lefty12 said earlier there were constant complaints about what wasn’t happening in practice, now they’re complaining about what is happening saing it dosn’t man anything. Well which is it?

  • Dude

    Hmm… Priests rhetoric about DHB sounds REALLLLLLLY familiar……. Every team in the league has Training Camp Stars who dont do a thing during the season. Priest is nothing but a freakn cheerleader who is wrong EVERY time he predicts something…..Period.

  • Dude

    Lefty,

    Funny reading you question someones intelligence when you sing the same song EVERY year and are ALWAYS wrong.

  • Try Some Reality

    Priesttj Says:
    July 31st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
    Yes! hope based on what’s going on in practice. It’s like Lefty12 said earlier there were constant complaints about what wasn’t happening in practice, now they’re complaining about what is happening saing it dosn’t man anything. Well which is it?

    ==================================================

    And which is it for you priest? You dogged Jerry last year for his reporting of Russell’s failures in camp. Now you believe Jerry’s reports? lol….

    I for one always took his reports at face value. Not like he’s making this sh1t up. Therefore, I’m excited about this year, especially DHB. Like his improvement. But there remains one big step so my optimism is cautious. Gotta do it in games, obviously.

  • http://atm Raider O

    According to KFFL, DHB added 10 pounds of muscle.