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Anniversary and practice link

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 5th, 2010 at 7:24 am in Oakland Raiders.

Maybe Tom Cable wanted to celebrate the one year anniversary of a day he’d rather forget, or perhaps he just wanted the guys to blow off a little steam.

More likely, he was paying off a bet to cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha about the Los Angeles-Boston NBA championship series, where Cable’s beloved Celtics fell to Asomugha’s Lakers.

In any event, Cable canceled meetings Wednesday night and took the team bowling, much to the excitement of running back Darren McFadden, who made note of it on his Twitter account.

A year ago today, assistant coach Randy Hanson was injured in what he alleged was an assault by Cable, prompting a lengthy investigation which ultimately resulted in no charges being filed but which stayed in the news for months. The Hanson story begat an ESPN story about Cable’s anger-management issues, which included alleged domestic abuse.

The NFL, like the Napa authorities, found no grounds to pursue.

Through all the questions and an 11 loss season, Cable never lost his temper in public, the one thing which would have been career suicide, and rode out the storm.

On the 364th day since Hanson broke his jaw at the Marriott, Cable was playfully running a pass pattern, hoping to catch a pass from safety Tyvon Branch, saying he was in perfect harmony with his players and coaches.

“This is my team and we got at it together, coaches and players,” Cable said. “We enjoy each other, and I think that’s part of it. You need to keep in touch with them.”

Not that Branch can expect to test his passing skills in a game any time soon.

“Tyvon was trying to convince me that he needs to come to offense and throw a reverse pass,” Cable said. “You guys saw it. He can’t throw.”

Assuming Cable hasn’t canceled practice to take the Raiders to a miniature golf course, I’m heading to Napa, with highlights available on my Twitter page.

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269 Responses to “Anniversary and practice link”

  1. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1st!

  2. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Mornin RR, NATION!

  3. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fullback Luke Lawton had a headache and will go through the concussion protocol, meaning he could be out a few days. Fullback Marcel Reece also has a sore foot, and Manese Tonga a knee strain or bruise, Cable said.

    ***

    sign Brad Hoover!

  4. neilb Says:

    Sign Jeremi Johnson!

  5. J Wiggle Says:

    VittorioTafur Gradkowski bouncing as he drops back to pass – is that to see over 6-foot-8 backup center Veldheer?

    ——————————————————

    6′8 – 315lb Center ????

    Can’t wait to see that experiment in the preseason games. Veldheer is going to play A LOT in the preseason if he is the #2LT and the #3 C.

  6. J Wiggle Says:

    Scrap the FB position. Put a the backup TE back there.

  7. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You don’t think JLH is going to make the team?

    Since when?

    I can’t see us cutting JLH.

    ***

    Jwigg: I find it hard to imagine the team keeping 3 smallish WR/KR types … Jerry Mac even said as much, didn’t he?

    so Ford is a lock (4th round rookie) and that leaves Higgins, Miller & Watkins fighting for the 5 and possibly 6th WR spot(s)

    But you know we’ve cut draft picks before (Slade Norris, Quentin Moses, etc) so maybe I shouldn’t call Ford a lock just yet.

    I’m still confident in JLH and think he’s a lock to make the team – over Miller, Watkins and the “other guys”

  8. edward teach Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 7:19 am
    I know you guys won’t like this, but I think Bruce Campbell would make an ideal Fullback …

    I’m not the first to bring it up either.

    was it M Lonetree?

    anywho, he has the size, strength & speed. technique isn’t required as much and he won’t be forced to take on massive DT’s 1-on-1. BC against a LB or S is a mismatch every time, especially with a running start

    FB Campbell & RB Bush = beast mode

    ********************************************************

    I’d rather see a guy like Daniels play fullback, if we’re going in that direction. Campbell is going to be needed on the o-line at some point, and Daniels (a defensive end, and a pretty good pass rusher in college) is probably athletic enough to handle it and has played in the offensive backfield before. With our reasonable depth at DE, he’s probably a long shot to make the team there anyway and may be more help as a fullback without wasting Campbell (or risking an injury to him) at a position he’s not going to end up playing.

  9. J Wiggle Says:

    Jerrymcd Chris Johnson doing a lot of watching with first nickel consisting of Routt, Nnamdi, McFadden,Mitchell,Branch, Huff (Mitchell in box as LB)
    about 14 hours ago via PockeTwit

    ——————————————————

    Interesting since it’s been made clear that CJ has been the best corner in camp. The fact that McFadden is in there instead of CJ is surprising.

  10. hwnrdr Says:

    In the top ten? Woohoooo!!!

    Cable bowling? Living up to yaba daba doo?

  11. WenzhouRaider Says:

    Jerry, please give updates on who won the bowling match. Anybody see the video on NFL.com about the top 5 teams in the afc (raiders as surprise team, not included). #3 sd chargers because “nobody finishes like the chargers” alright maybe thats a paraphrase, but still. I think thats a rather ironic statement considering their playoff record.

  12. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not that Branch can expect to test his passing skills in a game any time soon.

    “Tyvon was trying to convince me that he needs to come to offense and throw a reverse pass,” Cable said. “You guys saw it. He can’t throw.”

    ***

    I wish we could have heard Cable say that about Russell after he was cut …

    “You guys saw it. He can’t throw.”

  13. J Wiggle Says:

    I find it hard to imagine the team keeping 3 smallish WR/KR types

    ——————————————————-

    Maybe not 3, but certainly not just 1. The thing that keeps folks on the roster is there special teams contributions. All 3 of those guys can contribute on STs.

    I’d be SHOCKED if we cut JLH. Maybe we trade him, but I can’t see him “not making the team”.

    Chaz
    DHB
    Murphy
    Ford
    JLH

    Watkins and Miller fighting for the last spot

  14. edward teach Says:

    Jwiggle,

    Not surprising at all. What gets lost in translation sometimes is that everybody has to get the work in, and sometimes non-starters have to get in there against the starters on the other side of the ball so they can be evaluated against the better players on the team.

    The fact that someone is getting work on the first team defense doesn’t necessarily mean the starter’s getting replaced, and things like that get WAY overanalyzed when the team’s in camp.

  15. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Interesting since it’s been made clear that CJ has been the best corner in camp. The fact that McFadden is in there instead of CJ is surprising.

    ***

    I think we pretty much know what we’re getting in CJ37

    not so much with Routt & McFadden opposite Nnamdi Asomugha imo

    Cable said that Walter Mac could challenge for the nickel spot, so maybe thats exactly what he’s doing out there?

  16. neilb Says:

    What Jerry doesn’t say is that they went bowling with Hanson’s head.

  17. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d rather see a guy like Daniels play fullback, if we’re going in that direction. Campbell is going to be needed on the o-line at some point

    ***

    ET: fair enough, hard to argue with that

    Go Daniels!

    you know his initials are “AD” so maybe he’s got a shot ???

  18. J Wiggle Says:

    With our reasonable depth at DE, he’s probably a long shot to make the team there anyway and may be more help as a fullback without wasting Campbell (or risking an injury to him) at a position he’s not going to end up playing.

    ——————————————————-

    I agree with you but my concern is giving him a roster spot just for that purpose. If he makes the team as a DE, I’m right there with you. If not, not so sure. The backup TEs should be able to get the job done or maybe Trevor Scott, lol.

  19. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d be SHOCKED if we cut JLH. Maybe we trade him, but I can’t see him “not making the team”.

    Chaz
    DHB
    Murphy
    Ford
    JLH

    Watkins and Miller fighting for the last spot

    ***

    Agreed 100 percent. sorry for yesterday Jwigg

    I’ve been trying to drink more water at work lately and not so much coffee and I’ve been having migraine headaches every day since last Thursday (lack of caffeine?) I know i’ve been a little testy :)

  20. edward teach Says:

    Rockstar,

    I hadn’t noticed that. I would say that, just based on that alone, he’s guaranteed a roster spot :)

  21. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The backup TEs should be able to get the job done or maybe Trevor Scott

    ***

    ouch! I know Trevor Scott gets abused against the run, but he’s still our best pass rusher, isn’t he?

    Groves, ShoNasty & Houston offer loads of potential, but TS is still #1 in this area imo

  22. edward teach Says:

    Jwiggle,

    I would only give Daniels a roster spot as a fullback if he was a fullback, and could play there in situations other than just short yardage.

    If he’s better than Lawton or Tonga or Reece or anybody else, then he’s a fullback and I keep him. Somebody’s got to play the position and if he’s better than the rest then he gets the spot.

  23. J Wiggle Says:

    The fact that someone is getting work on the first team defense doesn’t necessarily mean the starter’s getting replaced

    ——————————————————

    In and of itself, no.

    But CJ doing “a lot” of watching????

    CJ, Routt, Nnamdi need a lot of work based on last year. Not making to big a deal about it, but the way it was presented, yeah I’m surprised.

    Fully expect CJ and Nnamdi to be the opening day starters.

  24. J Wiggle Says:

    All good RRS

  25. J Wiggle Says:

    Teach,

    I’m not an OC, I just play one on this blog.

    I just don’t see many formations where a FB is going to be needed. 3rd and 2, goal line, I get it. Other than that, it’s going to be Bush and McFadden in the game together, 3WRs sets, and 2 TEs.

    I’ll be the first to admit I could be wrong about this, but I just don’t see why in those limited situations, Meyers or Scott can’t be a lead blocker?

  26. bcz24 Says:

    Nnamdi’s team won the bowling thing…

  27. J Wiggle Says:

    ouch! I know Trevor Scott gets abused against the run, but he’s still our best pass rusher, isn’t he?

    ——————————————————-

    But he’s on the sidelines when a lead blocker might be needed, so let him get an extra 3 or 4 plays per game.

    Hell, let Condo do it. He needs a few more responsibilities for the $ he’s making.

  28. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If he’s better than Lawton or Tonga or Reece or anybody else, then he’s a fullback and I keep him. Somebody’s got to play the position and if he’s better than the rest then he gets the spot.

    ***

    Agreed. we’re still looking for a FB so if Daniels proves to be better than the others … welcome to the 53 man roster!

  29. niceguymoe Says:

    Good thing we didn’t draft Ron Brace…

    “Over in New England, disappointing second-year defensive tackle Ron Brace hasn’t participated in 13 straight practices. Patriots personnel director Nick Caserio said that Brace didn’t pass his physical to open camp, but Ian Rapoport of the Boston Herald reports Brace did not pass his conditioning run to open camp.

    When Brace passes, he’ll get back on the field. (The 2009 second-round pick essentially had a lost rookie season.)”

  30. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m not an OC, I just play one on this blog.

    ***

    LOL! very nice Jwigg

    can I play DC?

    start John Henderson!

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    let Condo do it. He needs a few more responsibilities for the $ he’s making.

    ***

    Condo at FB? interesting

    try it OC Hill-Wiggle …

  32. J Wiggle Says:

    Cable said that Walter Mac could challenge for the nickel spot, so maybe thats exactly what he’s doing out there?

    ——————————————————-

    Meaning Routt drops to #4 on the depth chart?

    Year 6 for Stan Routt, 1st and 3rd tender = dime CB

    Sad!

  33. neilb Says:

    J…..

    Maybe Cable’s trying to start a fire under Routt.

  34. bcz24 Says:

    I know a few people here trying to start a fire under Routt too… they just wont let ‘em into practice with the lighter fluid

  35. neilb Says:

    Maybe if we need to push someone’s buttons after 6 years they’re not worth pushing.

  36. neilb Says:

    …….the lighter fluid seems the best choice.

  37. edward teach Says:

    Jwiggle,

    I think you may be assuming too much when you say that you don’t see much of a need for a fullback, based on the type of formations and such that this offense is going to utilize. Unless you’re in camp or have a playbook I can’t see how you would be able to determine that.

    What IS certain is that this team will have at least one fullback on the roster, and maybe two. My point was that, since this is the case, if Daniels proves that he can do the job, than he should get it. It’s not like we have any All-Pros back there right now, and the fact that he’s getting work there tells you that 1) We’re going to need one, and 2) the staff isn’t all that fired up about the ones we have.

  38. Thec07 Says:

    FB is an out moded outdated position. Which is why Alex Daniels a DE at 275 lbs is getting un at FB…
    the NFL has changed…

  39. J Wiggle Says:

    Daniel’s is getting work there becasue the other 3 guys are hurt. I think the fact that you can pull a guy off the end of the DE pile and plug that hole kinda speaks to my point. He’s the guy standing around going nothing right now in camp. When the season starts, pull one of the guys off the sidelines who’s not doing anything and throw him in there.

  40. neilb Says:

    Thec07…..

    I think there’ll always be a need for a full back.

  41. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ Routt comments by BCZ & Neil!

    Jwigg: I think N21 & CJ37 are the opening day starters, but according to Cable it’s still a competition between Routt & CJ … so i’m assuming Routt was opposite Nnamdi during that set with WMAC at nickel

    if Routt gets outplayed by McFadden, you’re right. That would be sad. rookie 5th rounder

  42. illintentions Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 7:19 am

    I know you guys won’t like this, but I think Bruce Campbell would make an ideal Fullback …

    I’m not the first to bring it up either.

    was it M Lonetree?

    anywho, he has the size, strength & speed. technique isn’t required as much and he won’t be forced to take on massive DT’s 1-on-1. BC against a LB or S is a mismatch every time, especially with a running start

    FB Campbell & RB Bush = beast mode!

    =====================================================

    I’ve been dreaming of the possibility of Campbell back there as well… With the limitless physical ability this guy has, I worry there must be some serious problem with his football mentality… Anyways, I love the idea of having Daniels give it a go… a 275 pound guy with a hitter’s mentality, who seems to have a positive, workman like attitude.. As far as receivers go, I see no reason why we can’t keep Higgins, Ford, and Miller… all of them seem to have play-maker ability at receiver, as well as returner.. keep 6: Schillens, DHB, Murphy, Higgins, Ford, and Miller.. I want players with heart, and I have a hunch that Nick Miller’s training camp success will translate to the games…

  43. J Wiggle Says:

    neilb Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Maybe if we need to push someone’s buttons after 6 years they’re not worth pushing.

    ——————————————————-

    True

  44. J Wiggle Says:

    You need at least 4 quality CBs on the roster with these offenses these days. It’s good to have Ware stepping up and pushing Routt. Last year, it was John Holland behind Routt.

  45. neilb Says:

    Time for some dinner.

    Have a great Thursday everyone!

  46. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: by reading some of ET’s other comments it seems like Daniels might actually be a good fit at FB due to size, strength, speed and being a former RB (in the backfield). he may not just be some guy who wasn’t getting work elsewhere – at least I hope the coaching staff would put more thought into decisions than that!

    Moline & Cartwright weren’t banged up, were they?

  47. J Wiggle Says:

    Plaxico ????

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You need at least 4 quality CBs on the roster with these offenses these days. It’s good to have Ware stepping up and pushing Routt. Last year, it was John Holland behind Routt.

    ***

    McFadden & Ware replacing Bowie & Holland is huge … but don’t sleep on Joey Thomas

    he’s been making some plays in camp. Well, I guess Joe Porter & Stevie Brown have been to (thanks to Kyle Boller)

  49. aig-raiders Says:

    Morning peeps, found this….

    Campbell looking to thrive with Oakland
    Vittorio

    Jason Campbell worked out with Brett Favre this summer, as he has in the past, and Campbell and his dad have spent many hours fishing the ponds at Favre’s farm in Hattiesburg, Miss.

    Favre, 12 years Campbell’s senior, will join them once in a while and maybe they’ll talk about how they learned to play quarterback out in the country.

    Accuracy drills consisted of trying to knock the bark off trees with a football.

    Campbell grew up just down the road from where Favre did. Campbell’s dad was a substitute teacher for Favre’s daughter. And Campbell knows just like his old quarterback friend that if the bass aren’t biting, rural Mississippi is a great place for introspection.

    While Favre again was pondering retirement this offseason, Campbell had his own issues, namely trying to figure out why the Redskins didn’t like him and recalling how the Washington offense varied year to year, practically week to week.

    “Brett told me about how it took him five years to get comfortable at Green Bay, and he knew how hard it was to change systems all the time,” Campbell said. “He told me not to get lost and forget what it was that got me to this point – to play my game.”

    Campbell, 28, will get his chance to do that with the Raiders. He might be a leader and a deep-ball threat the Redskins didn’t take the time to see.

    Campbell was the Redskins’ first-round pick in 2005. Besides the revolving door of offensive coordinators (four), he had to deal with the wandering eye of owner Daniel Snyder. In the spring of 2009, there was the courtship of Jay Cutler and the wining and dining of Mark Sanchez.

    “It was like having your manhood questioned, like they were saying I was not a good quarterback while I was still on the team,” Campbell said.

    Snyder couldn’t land Cutler or Sanchez, and even though Campbell had a good year statistically last season, Washington finished 4-12. So Snyder went after and got Donovan McNabb, and Campbell was sent to Oakland in exchange for a fourth-round draft pick.

    “Coming here is kind of like being drafted all over again,” he said. “It’s a new start, you know. Oakland is trying to turn it around. They’re trying to become a new team. They made a lot of changes, and I think they’re trying to do things the right way and get it going in the right direction.”

    Looking for a leader
    After three years of enduring JaMarcus Russell’s work habits and mistakes, the Raiders were ecstatic to acquire a quarterback who takes care of the football.

    “We’re just real hungry and passionate for that kind of leadership,” coach Tom Cable said. “He has been welcomed, and he has taken it and run with it.”

    Receiver Chaz Schilens didn’t want to talk about Russell but …

    “Right now, I feel we’ve got a good guy, a dependable guy, a guy who’s going to work hard, who will be there for us every day,” he said. “He’s not going to shy away from anything. We know what to expect.

    “You know where the balls are going to be. That’s really all you can ask for as receivers, a dependable guy that’s going to go out and work hard every day. So we have that now. We’re ready to work. We’re ready to forget about everything else and move forward.”

    At 6-foot-5, 230 pounds, Campbell has a strong arm, but didn’t show it much in Washington. After being drafted out of Auburn for Joe Gibbs’ down-the-field system, Campbell had to trade in his playbook and learn new footwork every season, ultimately as a bad fit for Jim Zorn’s and then Sherman Lewis’ West Coast offense.

    Campbell is not one to make excuses, but he hasn’t thrown the same route to a receiver often enough to make any adjustments on the fly.

    Plunkett parallels
    Besides the four offensive coordinators in Washington, Campbell had four in his four years at Auburn and is playing for his ninth offensive coordinator or play-caller in 10 years.

    “I speak nine offensive languages,” he said. “Every time I started to get comfortable, things got changed up on me.”

    Jim Plunkett, discarded by the Patriots and 49ers before winning two Super Bowls with the Raiders, has a lot of similarities with Campbell. Plunkett had eight head coaches in his first eight NFL seasons.

    Plunkett said recently he lost some confidence after the 49ers cut him: “No matter how hard I worked, I kept hitting my head on the wall. I thought maybe it is me.”

    Campbell says he didn’t get to that point.

    “While it seemed like I might have been constantly looking over my shoulder, I couldn’t,” Campbell said. “Because I was still starting, and we had to get ready to do battle in the NFC East.”

    Campbell had passer ratings of at least 104.1 three times in Washington’s four-game winning streak in 2008 before the offensive line fell apart. His completion percentage has improved each season. Last year, he had career-best numbers (3,618 yards, 64.5 completion percentage, 20 TDs).

    “I had a pretty good year, but we lost three of four offensive linemen and that made it a very tough situation,” Campbell said.

    He is excited about what he calls Oakland’s no-name offense, complete with young, fast receivers, a stud tight end in Zach Miller, and running backs Michael Bush and Darren McFadden.

    “It’s not like it’s going to be a run team or just a passing team,” he said. “We’re going to be able to do a lot of different things. Our whole game is to keep defenses off balance.”

    Running back Rock Cartwright was with Campbell in Washington and is with him now in Oakland.

    “I am so excited for Jason,” Cartwright said. “The best thing for him was to get a fresh start and have a chance to run the offense here. We all like playing football, but you can tell Jason is really, really enjoying it again.”

  50. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Plaxico ????

    ***

    nobody wants to push his buttons!

  51. J Wiggle Says:

    I’m fine with Daniels as a “FB”.

    I’d be fine with Bush, Meyers, Scott, 3rd TE, Pears, or whoever else we need to throw out there when needed. There isn’t a young Oren Oneal on the roster jumping out at us so whoever, whatever.

  52. J Wiggle Says:

    I think I might be up for Plaxico in Silver and Black. If Chaz can find a cool pair of shoes, I might change my mind on that.

  53. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Condo has to go, along with Sam Williams. Enough already. If Satele or Morris can’t “long-snap,” then get a center who can. If Veldheer can learn to do it, then he’s the man. But why “WASTE” a roster spot on a long-snapper???

    I’ve stated this before over the years and there is always a response that long-snapper is critical. OBVIOUSLY, DUDE!
    I GET IT! (I just can’t understand why any “CENTER” in the NFL, making the money they make, can’t long-snap as a part of the position?) Might as well get an extra QB to throw long passes only? Keep JaFatAss to throw bombs only?
    What’s the difference? It’s a waste of a team slot.

  54. edward teach Says:

    “Fuulback is an outmoded outdated position.”

    Ask Ray Rice and Willis McGahee about the irrelevance of the fullback in todays’s NFL, and you’re likely to get a slightly different take.

  55. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Meyers

    ***

    Who ???

  56. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Condo has to go, along with Sam Williams. Enough already.

    ***

    the two best special teamers ???

    besides Jano & Lechler of course …

  57. J Wiggle Says:

    VittorioTafur Myers with nice diving catch, should have rolled the ball to Houston

    ——————————————————

    Sounds like a FB candidate to me

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Whatever I can do to help the team win, that’s what I’m going to do,” Daniels said. “If I gotta play fullback, if I gotta play center, if I gotta go get the water, then I’m going to do it. Commitment to excellence, that’s what I want to do.”

    ***

    LOL! Al Davis loves “AD” already …

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: here’s our answer

    Cornerback Chris Johnson watched a lot of practice, as Stanford Routt got a lot of first-team snaps. Cable said Johnson was getting some rest…. Safety Mike Mitchell played well at linebacker on 3rd down and long situations.

    Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)

  60. bcz24 Says:

    Ask Ray Rice and Willis McGahee about the irrelevance of the fullback in todays’s NFL, and you’re likely to get a slightly different take.

    Le’ron McClain aint your average fullback… he is exceptional…. I would say best in the league right now.

  61. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chris Mortensen in the house; so are clouds on very overcast morning

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

    ***

    LOL!

  62. bcz24 Says:

    Dumervil out for at least 4 months, maybe the season!

  63. bcz24 Says:

    Looks like the black cloud has finally moved on east over to Donkeyville.

  64. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what did Tomlinson look like without Lorenzo Neal lead blocking and Michael Turner to back him up?

    average (at best)

    same thing with Priest Holmes & Larry Johnson after losing Tony Richardson …

  65. J Wiggle Says:

    Le’ron McClain aint your average fullback… he is exceptional…. I would say best in the league right now.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly.

    Anything close to that on the roster I don’t think we’re having this conversation.

  66. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody think DeAngelo Williams & Jonathan Stewart will have the same measure of success without FB Brad Hoover in Carolina?

  67. bcz24 Says:

    Anybody think the Donks go 6-2 to start the season without Elvis leading the AFC in sacks?

  68. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Deangelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart will be just fine RRS.

    Hoover isn’t even on a team. Just like Kevin Mawae, these guys are clearly past their point of effectiveness, hence they might join guys like me and you on Sundays.

    On the couch.

  69. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:04 am
    Looks like the black cloud has finally moved on east over to Donkeyville.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Split over two cities donkeyville, and dischargerland…

  70. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anybody think the Donks go 6-2 to start the season without Elvis leading the AFC in sacks?

    ***

    probably more like 2-6

    no Marshall or Scheffler either

    Moreno & Buckhalter are banged up, hence the signing of fat potsmoker LenDale White

  71. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:09 am
    Anybody think the Donks go 6-2 to start the season without Elvis leading the AFC in sacks?

    ++++++++++++

    No and Raiders will win the west….

  72. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Broncos will be last in the AFC West and Tebow will get at least 4 starts this year.

    Book it.

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hoover isn’t even on a team. Just like Kevin Mawae, these guys are clearly past their point of effectiveness, hence they might join guys like me and you on Sundays.

    On the couch.

    ***

    Who knows?

    Jeff Garcia & Lorenzo Neal were obviously done … most guys (including myself) had them as locks for the 53 man roster

    I hope thats not the case with Langston Walker & John Henderson (nobody wanted them in FA).

    we need these guys!

  74. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kellen Heard not here

    *******************************

    So much for that. I think Practice Squad might be a reach for this guy at this stage.

  75. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Rockstar…matter of opinion. But comparing them to Jano and Lechler, you gotta be kidding. Sam Williams has been on scholarship for years. He’s knows where the body was buried. Condo, wow, really! I don’t think so. And, you’re missing my main point. All centers should be able to long snap as part of their everyday functions at that position. If they can’t, then they need to get the hell out of the game. Maybe take up golf or ping pong?

  76. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who else is ready to see Josh McDaniels go pass-happy with Kyle Orton throwing to Demaryius Thomas, Eddie Royal, Jabar Gaffney & Brandon Stokley ???

  77. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Daniels back with fullbacks; Reece (foot) and Tonga (knee) watching

    Charlie Frye walks off field with trainer

    Figurs finds extra gear to haul in deep Gradkowski pass

    Also no sign of Heard and Ware; no one would miss Kellen Heard unless you had roster and were checking off names

    First play of scrimmage – penalty

    DHB and Schilens on field but no Murphy

    No sign of Seymour

    Raiders have officials out here to throw some flags today

    they go at 830 and 420 today

    Walker seems to have right tackle locked up, has eaten up Lamarr Houston last couple of days

    Special teams drills: good to be kicker. Seabass highest paid in league and hasn’t broken sweat

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think 90% of the long-snappers in this league don’t do anything but long-snap and be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart at another position.

  79. RaiderRockstar Says:

    fire Vaughn Walker!

    bring in Judge Joe Brown :)

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2010/08/05/MNQS1EOR3D.DTL&o=0

    which one of these guys is BSJ???

  80. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sam Williams = Oakland Raider for another 5 years.

    He may get released and waived every so often, but he always seems to come back and play on ST.

  81. Lakota Says:

    We ran the ball pretty well when Oneal was here…I’d say the FB position is still pretty important to teams that want to run the ball. Pass happy teams might feel differently.

  82. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JFB: this team hasn’t won more than 5 games since Sam Williams was drafted …

    call it the SW curse!

    but like you said, he’ll probably retire one day and Al Davis will make him an asst coach

  83. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We ran the ball pretty well when Oneal was here…

    ***

    Justin Griffith, too

  84. Lakota Says:

    Dumervil out for four months with a torn pectoral.

    Bummer for the Broncos.

    muhahahahahahahaaaa

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dumervil out for four months with a torn pectoral.

    Bummer for the Broncos.

    muhahahahahahahaaaa

    ***

    less than a week after signing that mega-deal too. LOL

    they better hope he becomes a gym rat with his rehab like Bruce Gradkowski or he could miss the entire season!

  86. Thec07 Says:

    Lakota Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:28 am
    We ran the ball pretty well when Oneal was here…I’d say the FB position is still pretty important to teams that want to run the ball. Pass happy teams might feel differently.

    ++++++++++++++++

    see last years super bowl winner for further analysis…

  87. Raider Dell Says:

    On the beach in Cancun Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
    Condo has to go, along with Sam Williams. Enough already. If Satele or Morris can’t “long-snap,” then get a center who can. If Veldheer can learn to do it, then he’s the man. But why “WASTE” a roster spot on a long-snapper???

    I’ve stated this before over the years and there is always a response that long-snapper is critical. OBVIOUSLY, DUDE!
    I GET IT! (I just can’t understand why any “CENTER” in the NFL, making the money they make, can’t long-snap as a part of the position?) Might as well get an extra QB to throw long passes only? Keep JaFatAss to throw bombs only?
    What’s the difference? It’s a waste of a team slot.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I’ve read your comments before and others on this blog have commented to you, on the need for a LS. In fact, the most recent comment to you was from Priest a few days ago, regarding Condo.

    I would challenge you to snap a football, between your legs and deliver it belt high in less than one second fourteen yards, Try to do it, very difficult. Not many can!!!

    The rule changes in the punt game over the years, has evolved from the slow bulky center doing the long snapping, to a quicker more agile, athletic player, like Condo. Every team wastes a roster spot for this speciality player, look around the league,all the teams have a athletic and fast LS doing their specialty also.

    Teams, like the Raiders are placing a emphasis on speed and coverage, to stop any return. The return game has come back, due to the blocking rules and allowing only two gunners to leave on the snap, prior to the punter kicking the ball.

    My question to you is, “why aren’t you whining about the third string QB” he has even less time on the field than the LS, and is rarely ever used and he takes up a roster spot every game and his salary is more.

    I’m sure my comment will not help. I’ve tried as others, to convince you it’s the way football in the NFL is played and some specialities like LS are needed.

    Finally my challenge to you, try to LS. My son did this in high school and practiced every day, 1 1/2 hours a day during football and the off season. He got pretty good, around one second and two tenths was his best, sad for him he couldn’t run as fast as Condo, so his career ended in HS.

    Please stop showing your ignorance to the speciality Condo has, and realize since he’s been a Raider, in the LS and short snap Jano, and Lechler have had, their best years and Condo has been rewarded for his hard work.

  88. HairyBush Says:

    Change the Raiders can Believe In Steve Wyche NFL.com

    ——————————————————————————–

    The arrival of quarterback Jason Campbell is one reason why the Raiders feel primed for a winning season.

    NAPA, Calif. — It seemed like someone in Oakland knew what he was doing.

    For the first time in a while, the Raiders didn’t do anything outrageous on draft day. They selected linebacker Rolando McClain with the 12th overall pick and defensive end LaMaar Houston in the second round, and waited until the fourth round to select offensive tackle Bruce Campbell — potentially the value pick of the draft.

    Then the trade for Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell and the eventual release of JaMarcus Russell — a No. 1 overall bust — seemed to confirm that the Raiders were no longer trying to play Fantasy Football and had a plan about building a real team.

    “The vibe here is different, the feeling here is different from other years that I’ve been here,” said perennial Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who has never played on a Raiders team that has won more than five games since he was drafted by Oakland in 2003. “We’ve had years where we’ve had so much talent that it was assumed we were going to be a great team — like maybe three years ago. We’ve had years where we brought a coach back and, again, it was assumed we were going to have a good team.

    “(But) this year it actually feels like our team is going to make some noise because the product that we’re putting out speaks greater than the names on the team. It doesn’t matter what we have here. What we’re doing in practice looks like winning football. It’s a different feeling.”

    Caution: Just because the Raiders seem to be working off a legitimate NFL template and things feel decent, these are the Raiders. We should probably wait and see.

    For instance, on Tuesday, four times there were pre-snap penalties. Receivers dropped passes. It was very Raider-like. However, this wasn’t much different than some of the things I’d seen at previous training camps. And Coach Tom Cable isn’t letting these things slide.
    Camp preview: Better watch out
    If Darren McFadden doesn’t fulfill expectations in his third season, he’d better watch out. Michael Bush might step up and take the reigns at running back. More …

    Neither is Campbell. How about that: A quarterback who’s actually taking charge. That’s why there is optimism in Oakland. Campbell isn’t Russell, and that’s such a good thing. He’s still ironing out a lot of little things, as well as changing the mindset of an organization that, since 2003, is 29-83.

    “It’s still a process,” Campbell said. “Things are not going to turn overnight. We’ve got to chip things down one by one.”

    OBSERVATION DECK

    » Players are feeling good about new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson. The high-energy play caller has inserted a diverse offense — especially in the passing game — that even has defenders impressed.

    “It doesn’t matter who we put in, with him calling plays, we have a chance,” Asomugha said.

    There are multiple options in the passing game, but the key is Campbell getting the ball out quickly, something Cable said Campbell has done well. That’ll allow the young receivers — which include Louis Murphy, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Chaz Schilens — a chance to make plays. Oakland will try to be a run-dominant team, but they won’t be predictable.

    Another good thing, Jackson was relentless on detail during camp, jumping on players for seemingly minute things like unenthusiastically breaking the huddle. That being said, the defense dominated, which is something I’ve noticed at my stops in San Diego and San Francisco, so this seems to be a trend early in camps.

    Defenses are good early while the offense installs schemes and personnel packages. Things eventually should balance out.

    » The Raiders’ offensive line is still a work in progress. There were leaks in the run game and in pass protection,. Cable is really stressing the need for cohesiveness and protection up front. He’s also riding the running backs about protection.

    » Heyward-Bey, Last year’s first-round selection, is drawing high praise for working to improve, especially hanging onto the ball. He made some nice grabs when I saw him, but the same couldn’t be said for the rest of the wideouts. Murphy (concussion) and Schilens (foot) did not practice.

    » Running back Darren McFadden worked with the first offense and Michael Bush the second, but Bush rotated in depending on the situation. Cable said he’s not sure how both will be used. What is clear is that both players with unfulfilled expectations will be used.

    ROOKIE REPORT

    » McClain is the real deal. Okay, he hasn’t played in a game yet, so I’m not crowning him. But his instincts are off the charts. The cerebral middle linebacker has the speed and innate football sense to be around the ball against the run and in pass coverage. He’s a legit three-down player whose feel for the game is impressive. I was really taken with how he played in pass coverage.
    NFL RedZone

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    Teammates said Houston is an hornery hombre. He still has some things to work out, but he worked with the first-team defense.

    » Fourth-round wide receiver Jacoby Ford has blazing speed, but he needs to work on catching the ball. He routinely got open but didn’t always finish the play in team drills.

  89. Raider Dell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:24 am
    I think 90% of the long-snappers in this league don’t do anything but long-snap and be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart at another position.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fire Baby,

    Mornin, Condo also snaps on Jano’s extra points and field goals too.

  90. Thec07 Says:

    Raiders will win the west….No kool aid Required….

  91. Stabler76 Says:

    Fullback Luke Lawton had a headache and will go through the concussion protocol, meaning he could be out a few days. Fullback Marcel Reece also has a sore foot, and Manese Tonga a knee strain or bruise, Cable said.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Man I miss Jon Ritchie

    His forehead bled continuously from July to February every year but he never hesitated to take out an opposing LB.

  92. Thec07 Says:

    » Running back Darren McFadden worked with the first offense and Michael Bush the second, but Bush rotated in depending on the situation. Cable said he’s not sure how both will be used.
    ++++++++++++++++

    good answer….

  93. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Morning Dell.

    I am with you on the Condo deal. People act like he is the only specialty long-snapper in the league.

    Almost every team has a specialized long-snapper taking a roster spot, and most, if not all, of them aren’t as good at it as Condo.

  94. Raider O Says:

    What is Cable up to today? Bowling, no Contact, or Branch passing?!
    Crazy Fat Monkey!!!

  95. Thec07 Says:

    The cerebral middle linebacker has the speed and innate football sense to be around the ball against the run and in pass coverage. He’s a legit three-down player whose feel for the game is impressive. I was really taken with how he played in pass coverage.
    NFL RedZone

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    A MIKE we can beleive in….

  96. Thec07 Says:

    Dell, whats up Brother???? doyou have your own blog yet????

  97. Thec07 Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
    Change the Raiders can Believe In Steve Wyche NFL.com

    ++++++++++++++++=

    Great find….Thanks for posting…..

    Raiders will win the west…..

  98. J Wiggle Says:

    VittorioTafur 2nd team: Bruce Campbell holding his own with John Henderson

    ——————————————————-

    Here we go!

  99. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McClain will have more picks this year than Kirk and Howard combined.

    May take only 1, but he will do it!!

  100. Raider O Says:

    Hey!! You guys finished 5-11 last season, so let’s end practice early and go Bowling!!!
    Practice!!! Who needs practice!!??!!

    You are on thin ice Fat Monkey!!

  101. Raider Dell Says:

    Thec

    Really my own blog? What’s up back to you.

    I’ll answer doing well, great summer so far, looking forward to football.

    How are you?

  102. Thec07 Says:

    Players are feeling good about new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson. The high-energy play caller has inserted a diverse offense — especially in the passing game — that even has defenders impressed.

    “It doesn’t matter who we put in, with him calling plays, we have a chance,” Asomugha said.

    +++++++++++++++++=

    wow a competent play caller, outstanding….

  103. RNOraiderFan Says:

    So Mort is picking the Raiders as a Darkhorse playoff team. In his camp report he named 10 players he thought were “great.” Seymour, McFadden, Bush, Aso, Campbell, Miller, Shielens, Murphy, Gallery, and DHB!
    He also says he likes the LB core with McClain and Wimbley. Is this Mort kissin Al’s back side or is this guy serious?

  104. Raider Dell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:43 am
    Morning Dell.

    I am with you on the Condo deal. People act like he is the only specialty long-snapper in the league.

    Almost every team has a specialized long-snapper taking a roster spot, and most, if not all, of them aren’t as good at it as Condo.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Thanks for the comment back. I just wish some of the comments on this blog, are backed up with some logic to their comments, like you just did.

  105. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McClain making plays the last few minutes it seems.

    Expect the bulk of the convo from the Mort Report to be about the addition-by-subtraction of Jamarucs and how good Rolando looks.

  106. Thec07 Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 9:47 am
    Thec

    Really my own blog? What’s up back to you.

    I’ll answer doing well, great summer so far, looking forward to football.

    How are you?

    +++++++++++++++++

    I am doing very well Dell thanks. Yeah would figure someone of your knowledge of things NATION you would have your own blog.

  107. Raider O Says:

    TH has good hands for a LB, and He played S at UTEP. He is the best cover LB on our Roster IMHO.

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gallery down awkwardly as hit in back of leg in scrum

    2nd team: Bruce Campbell holding his own with John Henderson

    Off/def: live drill as Wimbley tackles Bush to ground

    Cable getting hands dirty with offensive line

    Frye back

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

  109. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Man I miss Jon Ritchie, Stabler76.
    ******************************************
    So do I, real football players are getting harder and harder to find these days. Jon’s jersey was the first ever jersey I got for my son when he was 5. Over the past 8 years the Raiders could of used alot more players like Jon. The only players in his mold we have now are Aso, Gallery and maybe McClain, will have to wait on the last one. Oh ya Murphy seems to be a old school kick you in your teeth type too.

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2nd team: Bruce Campbell holding his own with John Henderson

    ***

    maybe BC is learning how to play guard ???

    good for him! good for us!

    either that or JH has lost a step … (cringe)

  111. Kirk Says:

    The first game is NEXT WEEK!!!

    Sorry…I’m just getting excited.

  112. Raider O Says:

    Good Morning.
    Where is Preppie? MIA

    The Great OSU > Preppie talent stealing Mich!!

  113. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Expect the bulk of the convo from the Mort Report to be about the addition-by-subtraction of Jamarucs and how good Rolando looks.
    ***************************************************
    Just watched it, Mort spoke mostly of the O and Gallery, DHB, Miller, Chaz, Murphy, and Campbell. He thinks this O can be good to great.

  114. Raider Dell Says:

    Thec,

    My own blog,really?I have no time, directing my business in this rocky economy we have, is time consuming.

  115. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Kirk, is the game going to be on T.V? If so what network is playing the game?

  116. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Elvis has left the building! Could not be happier for the Donks.

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    directing my business in this rocky economy we have, is time consuming.

    ***

    Dell: time to open up a branch in Podunk?

  118. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Who is going to run the ball for the Donks? Who is going to rush the passer? Looks like Donks will be celler dwellers this year.
    Chargers 10-6
    Raiders 9-7
    KC 8-8
    DONKs 4-12

  119. Raider Dell Says:

    RRS

    Opened or have one in Arizona.

    Missouri(Podunk) is not to far behind.

  120. RNOraiderFan Says:

    With Elvis out for the Donks they will be looking for FA pass rushers. Could they go after Derrick Burgess?

  121. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Just watched it, Mort spoke mostly of the O and Gallery, DHB, Miller, Chaz, Murphy, and Campbell. He thinks this O can be good to great.

    ************************************

    It’s on already??

    The first session hasn’t even ended and he already filed his report.

    Figures. What was the point of driving out if you were going to file your “report” (used loosely) after about 25% of the practice time that day.

    Should have just stayed his okie azz in Bristol.

  122. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Ya Mort just did his report from in front of the ESPN bus and Really talked up the Raiders. I think he was talking so highly of them so Al would let him in. LOL

  123. Raider Dell Says:

    I can remember when the football season started, the following weekend, after Labor Day holiday. I mention this because some schools in my area will start the 2010, 2011 year next week. I can remember when I started school after Labor Day Holiday and looked forward to football. I know they start with the opening game of the season on Thursday, but seems so odd to see school start this soon in August. My daughter starts august 16.

  124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Paul Gutierrez says Mortensen must have liked players’ legs

    Chris mortenson was on espn today saying the raiders had a good chance at the playoffs!!!

    if I was Satele I would be concerned coaches moved Veldheer to center

    Chris Johnson watched Stanford Routt take a lot of first team snaps again

    Holland goes off on a cart

    Holland down, limps off

    Gallery worked on, walking now without limp

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

  125. bcz24 Says:

    Hey!! You guys finished 5-11 last season, so let’s end practice early and go Bowling!!!
    ************************************************
    Who said they ended practice early? They ended practice at normal time, and instead of meetings after Cable took the whole team out. After a week of 2 a days and meeting after meeting a little team bonding activity for a few hours one night aint so bad. Keeps minds clear and players get a chance to really know each other. I thought it was a cool gesture

  126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Missouri(Podunk) is not to far behind.

    ***

    Dell: don’t forget about me :)

  127. Stabler76 Says:

    Gallery down awkwardly as hit in back of leg in scrum

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Who let Fargas back on the field?

  128. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Why shouldn’t the Raiders make noise in thier devision?
    The Chargers have 3 stars holding out, The donks lost thier best D player for 4 months and thier #1 and 2 running backs are hurt. The Chiefs are rebuilding….
    Why Not?

  129. RNOraiderFan Says:

    As far as the AFC goes only the Colts are sitting pretty. every other mortal team has thier problems. I think the Bengals make some noise and go to the ACF championship game.

  130. J Wiggle Says:

    VittorioTafur Chris Johnson watched Stanford Routt take a lot of first team snaps again
    19 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

    ——————————————————-

    ?????????????

  131. RNOraiderFan Says:

    West Chargers
    East Jets
    South Colts
    North Bengals
    wildcard Raiders, Texans

  132. bcz24 Says:

    You actually think the Ravens will be sitting home in January? And Rex Ryans fantasy team is the best in the east? Wow… different thinking. I agree with 2 of your picks though…

  133. edward teach Says:

    I think some of you are missing he point as regards the need for a fullback. The fact that we don’t have Le’Ron McLain is beside the point.

    We’re going to run the ball. Players have quoted Hue Jackson as saying so on many occasions. To run the ball effectively in the NFL you need a fullback that can take on defenders and move them out of the way, and catch the ball once in awhile as well. It’s immutable. Some offenses utilize the position more than others; I haven’t seen the playbook or been at camp but based on the fact that it seems to be a position of concern in Oakland I would say that having one that can
    do those things is going to be pretty important.

  134. aig-raiders Says:

    VittorioTafur Chris Johnson watched Stanford Routt take a lot of first team snaps again
    19 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

    ——————————————————-

    ?????????????
    ————

    simple answer. Al Davis pet project.

  135. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Ravens are a great team. I don’t know how they are going to defend the pass. If thier O is as good as it looks on paper then, yes they make the playoff and the Raiders are sitting at home.

  136. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Why not the Jets? The Pats are getting old and broke down, I’m not sold on the Fins, and the Bills? Don’t count on it.

  137. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I’m really thinking the Bengals will be AFC Champs this year.

  138. bcz24 Says:

    The Ravens front 7 is definitely stout enough to mask a lot of their deficiencies in their secondary…

  139. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Ravens are a great team. they make the playoff and the Raiders are sitting at home.

    ***

    RNO: there goes my Kool-Aid buzz

    thanks alot man!

  140. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Ravens have a few great players in thier front 7, but the rest are good to average and without the great secondary they will be exposed.

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Defense has no answer for Zach Miller: pair of TD grabs from Gradkowski just before practice ends

    McClain yelling at other rookies like he was 10-year vet

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

    ***

    who is he yelling at?

    I assume it wasn’t Campbell, Veldheer, Ford or one of the FB’s …

  142. RNOraiderFan Says:

    RNO: there goes my Kool-Aid buzz

    thanks alot man!
    ***************************************
    Sorry, I think the Raiders are in it until the end, but if the Ravens O gels they could be dangerous. Who should I leave out to get the Raiders in the Playoffs?
    Bengals, Jets, Colts, Chargers, Texans, Ravens, also the Pats are right thier too. Maybe the raiders can win the devision outright and make it.

  143. elboocho Says:

    No way the bengals are gonna be AFC champs, but they might win a playoff game if T.O. acts like an adult and they do not back into the playoffs like they did last year!

  144. bcz24 Says:

    Raiders will have to win the division outright to get in… Pats/Dolphins/Jets, Ravens/Bengals/Steelers, Colts/Texans all solid teams. Titans are a question mark right now… are they the 13-3 Titans or the 7-9 Titans…

  145. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 5, 2010 1:20 PM ET
    So the fact that Broncos linebacker Elvis Dumervil suffered a likely season-ending torn pectoral muscle not long after inking a six-year deal that guarantees him $43 million means that he’ll get the $43 million, right?

    Not necessarily.

    A league source points out to us that, even though Dumervil’s contract is fully guaranteed against injury, there’s a potential scenario in which Dumervil simply won’t get the bulk of the money.

    Players receive money that’s guaranteed for injury only if they can’t pass a physical. Many players have serious injuries, the injuries heal, they pass a physical, and then at some point they injure the area again. (See, e.g., Atari Bigby.)

    So, as the source explains it, the Broncos could determine in he future that Dumervil is healthy — and then the Broncos could cut him before the first day of the next league year, when $14 million of his base salary for 2011 and another $14 million of his base salary for 2012 become guaranteed for skill.

    We’re not saying that the Broncos will dump Dumervil before the first day of the next league year. We’re saying that they can, if they so choose.

    And while such a move would allow Dumervil to hit the open market, who will give him $28 million guaranteed for injury and skill given that he missed all of 2010 with an injury?

    That’s why there’s only one truly guaranteed form of guaranteed money. A signing bonus. It’s why guys like Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis aren’t interested in $100 million in non-guaranteed base salaries, and why they want to maximize the signing bonus they receive. That way, if Revis tears an ACL or rips a pec or breaks a leg, the bulk of the money will be guaranteed because the money already will be in his bank account.

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  146. RNOraiderFan Says:

    AFC power rankings
    Colts
    Bengals
    Chargers
    Ravens
    Texans
    Jets
    Pats
    Raiders
    Titans
    Steelers
    Dolpins
    KC
    Jags
    Donkeys
    Browns
    Bills

  147. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Bengals have been quietly building a great D and they are going to have a great O. Why won’t they be AFC champs?

  148. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Of course these power rankings will mean nothing in week 9 of the season.

  149. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Donks have to be on the phone with Burgess and Schobel right now.

  150. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Elvis Dumervil’s nickname is “Doom.”

    It used to be because the small, but mighty linebacker meant despair for opposite offenses. Now, the nickname means his 2010 season is doomed.

    There is no way out of this one, folks. The Denver Broncos’ season just took a brutal hit. I’m not sure the defense can survive it. Yes, it’s that bad.

    ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting that Dumervil suffered a torn pectoral muscle during a Wednesday evening practice and will be out about four months. Now, Denver will have to decide if it should save a roster spot for Dumervil for a chance for him to play in the final few games of the season, or to put him on the injured reserve, ending his season. This is the biggest NFL injury of the year so far.

    Dumervil is a dominant pass rusher and he’s Denver’s best defensive player. He led the NFL with 17 sacks last season in his first season as a 3-4 linebacker. Denver just rewarded him with a new six-year contract extension with more than $43 million in guaranteed money.

    Denver gave him the big money because he is the player it is building its future around. He’s a cornerstone player. Now, he will have to wait until 2011 to make an impact.

    If Dumervil isn’t Denver’s best overall player, he is a close second to left tackle Ryan Clady. Yes, the same player who is rehabbing from a torn patella tendon in his knee, which he suffered while playing pickup basketball in April. The Broncos hope Clady is back early in the season. Denver is also without starting running back Knowshon Moreno, who suffered a hamstring injury Sunday. He is expected back this month. For a team with many question marks, these injuries are not ideal.

    But the Dumervil injury is devastating. He set the tone for the defense. Now, Denver has no real pass-rush threat. Now, the pressure is on former first-round picks Jarvis Moss and Robert Ayers. Moss has been a complete flop and Ayers is entering a pivotal season after a rocky rookie season. The Broncos need one of these two players to step up.

    Former Buffalo pass rusher Aaron Schobel will likely be linked to Denver now that Dumervil is hurt. However, one of the main reasons Schobel wanted out of Buffalo was that the Bills were moving to a 3-4 defense. He is much more comfortable as a 4-3 player. So, the Broncos are not a great fit for Schobel.

    Dumervil is the perfect fit in Denver. In addition to being a great player, he is a leader and a favorite of his teammates. He represented hope in Denver. Now, suddenly, that hope is gone, perhaps for all of 2010.

  151. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Bengals have been quietly building a great D and they are going to have a great O. Why won’t they be AFC champs?

    ***

    half the team will be locked up by January ???

  152. RNOraiderFan Says:

    half the team will be locked up by January ???
    ***********************************************
    LOL! you never know…..

  153. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Why are players so soft now a days? They run at the speed of light, they lift cars and trucks for weights but they get pains and aches like they are frail.

    What ever happen to playign with a little pain.

    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

    —————————————————-
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
    Fullback Luke Lawton had a headache and will go through the concussion protocol, meaning he could be out a few days. Fullback Marcel Reece also has a sore foot, and Manese Tonga a knee strain or bruise, Cable said.

    ***

    sign Brad Hoover!

  154. RNOraiderFan Says:

    What about those power rankings? Anyone care to post thiers?

  155. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    After all saw Dez Bryant go down in Dallas there is NO way he is letting Cable start live hitting and tackling. No Way!!!!!!!

  156. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Why are players so soft now a days? They run at the speed of light, they lift cars and trucks for weights but they get pains and aches like they are frail.

    What ever happen to playign with a little pain.

    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
    **************************************************
    They are all looking for that legal script for some opiates, like Codine, Vicodin, Percs, ect

  157. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RNO: this is 2010

    Raiders > Chargers

  158. RNOraiderFan Says:

    After all saw Dez Bryant go down in Dallas there is NO way he is letting Cable start live hitting and tackling. No Way!!!!!!!
    ************************************************
    Raiders went “Live” today.

  159. bcz24 Says:

    Their entire offense is composed of overrated over the hill players… Sorry, the Bengals wont even win their division much less the AFC

  160. RNOraiderFan Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
    RNO: this is 2010

    Raiders > Chargers
    *********************************
    I hope so, If that happens then the Raiders are in the playoffs. I just don’t know if they can get a wildcard.

  161. RNOraiderFan Says:

    August 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
    Their entire offense is composed of overrated over the hill players… Sorry, the Bengals wont even win their division much less the AFC
    ****************************************************
    Kinda like the Raiders O from 99 to 2002. How did that work out for us? The diffrence is thier D is YOUNG and GOOD.

  162. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Palmer > Gannon
    Ohco = Brown
    TO = Rice
    Bensen > Weatley
    Oline = Oline
    Gresam > any TE the raiders had.

  163. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Their entire offense is composed of overrated over the hill players… Sorry, the Bengals wont even win their division much less the AFC

    ***

    Ravens & Steelers are tough every game

    even without Big Ben for the first 6 games, they might take a wildcard spot

    Ravens look like the favorite to me, despite a banged up secondary

  164. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I don’t mind being the minority as long as I’m right!
    LOL

  165. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Bengals are only missing that Charlie Garner type back.

  166. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Remember what the Raiders did with the pass to the Steelers? Who on the Ravens are going to defend the pass?

  167. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The bengals will be able to pass on anyone, except the Raiders!

  168. DKnight007 Says:

    neilb Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 7:22 am
    I’d rather have Campbell learning the RT position,but I can see where you’re coming from.

    ^^^^^^^
    I think Campbell will eventually be moved to RT.

    He is learning how to run block on that right side, which he will need to do effectively as a RT.

    They probably figure he has all the tools to be a good at pass pro on the RT, so they want to add depth at RG and teach him how to run block first.

  169. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Defense has no answer for Zach Miller: pair of TD grabs from Gradkowski just before practice ends

    ********************************

    Sounds like the defense didn’t have an answer for the great Gradkowski either!!!

    Hmmmm……Gradkowski throwing to Miller, with Rolando on D getting mad.

    Bruce getting some run with the 1’s?

  170. aig-raiders Says:

    RNO,

    The key thing you are missing there is the Oline of 2002 vs the Bengals 2010. We had a fanstastic and prob #1 Oline in the league at that time. Gannon had forever to throw the ball.

  171. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Ravens will beable to pass on anyone too. They just will not have the pass D to match up with the Bengals. The Bengals have one of the best CB tandums in the NFL.

  172. Just Fire Baby Says:

    People forget how awful Carson Palmer looked at the end of last year.

    Even against us, he looked like he was 50 years old out there.

    Bungles = 8-8.

    Tough division, too much Hollyhood.

  173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Bengals are only missing that Charlie Garner type back.

    ***

    Bernard Scott or Cedric Peerman ???

  174. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Any defense with Ray Lewis and that D-line will still be a top tier defense.

    HOF, once in a lifetime players like Ray Lewis simply don’t allow things to go bad.

  175. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Bengals Oline is just fine. I could be wrong, Iam not an expert, I still think the Bengals time has come and they will be Superbowl bound this year if they can win the devision and get by the colts

  176. bcz24 Says:

    Agreed RRS…

  177. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Tim Brown and Jery Rice just quit being able to get out of coverage, It happens to the best of them…AGE.

  178. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Bernard Scott or Cedric Peerman ???
    ***********************************************
    Sorry don’t know about either of those guys. Most of my knowledge is the Raiders. I’m just a casual fan of the other teams.

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RNO: one good hit on Carson Palmer and the Bengals go from 11-5 to 3-13 …

  180. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Its been fun debating with you all, have to run.
    Bengals to the Superbowl! You all heard it hear first.
    Peace Out Nation!

  181. RNOraiderFan Says:

    RNO: one good hit on Carson Palmer and the Bengals go from 11-5 to 3-13 …
    ***************************************************
    True.. thats the same with alot of teams..
    Colts, Chargers, Pats ect

  182. Thec07 Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
    RNO: this is 2010

    Raiders > Chargers
    *********************************
    I hope so, If that happens then the Raiders are in the playoffs. I just don’t know if they can get a wildcard.

    +++++++++++++

    F the wild card, like our HC said we are goind for the Division….

  183. DKnight007 Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 10:18 am
    West Chargers
    East Jets
    South Colts
    North Bengals
    wildcard Raiders, Texans

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nope.

    Texans, Bengals or Ravens will get the Wild Cards.

  184. Lakota Says:

    Shannon Brown back to the Lakers…yippppeeee

  185. Thec07 Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
    Its been fun debating with you all, have to run.
    Bengals to the Superbowl! You all heard it hear first.
    Peace Out Nation!

    ++++++++++++++++++

    F the bungholes…..Its all about the NATION….

  186. DKnight007 Says:

    The Bengals and Ravens will BOTH make the playoffs.

  187. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shannon Brown back to the Lakers…

    ***

    told ya so!

    haha

  188. Just Fire Baby Says:

    AFC:

    East- Jets
    South- Colts
    West- Raiders (at 9-7; shyty division)
    North- Ravens

    WC: Steelers, Patriots

  189. DKnight007 Says:

    The Raiders need to play their ASSES off this year and try and WIN THE FREAKIN DIVISION!

    It’s their for the taking!

    The DisChargers window has closed!

  190. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if the Bungles make the playoffs, it’s because they have a FB named Fui Vakapuna!

  191. DKnight007 Says:

    The Raiders need to play their ASSES off this year and try and WIN THE FREAKIN DIVISION!

    It’s their for the taking!

    The DisChargers window has closed!

  192. Just Fire Baby Says:

    NFC:

    East- Cowboys
    West- Seachickens
    South- Saints
    North- Vikins (w or w/o Brett)

    WC: Redskins, Falcons

    (As much as I am rooting for my fellow Butte College alum Aaron Rodgers, tough schedule and bad O-line still; not getting in)

  193. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I thought the Broncos would finish in last prior to the Smelvis injury, not I seriously think they could 3-13.

    Not a very talented roster.

  194. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ben Wallace finally signs two-year deal with Pistons

    Celtics & Bobcats interested in Larry Hughes

    Shaq to Boston (who called that one?)

  195. Raider Dell Says:

    (As much as I am rooting for my fellow Butte College alum Aaron Rodgers, tough schedule and bad O-line still; not getting in)

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fire baby,

    Just read Don Banks (SI) postcard from Green Bay’s camp. The slant of the article is the Packers, as a team are talking up Super Bowl. Don Banks starts to lean that way, but refreshes and straightens out is article towards the end.

  196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NFC:

    East- Cowboys
    West- 49ers
    South- Saints
    North- Packers

    WC: Eagles, Bears

  197. RaiderRockstar Says:

    AFC:

    East- Jets
    South- Colts
    West- Raiders
    North- Ravens

    WC: Dolphins, Texans

  198. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Every year you get a team that is supposedly going to take that big leap and make the playoffs or SB, and half the time they are a big disappointment.

    Sorry to say, I think the Packers are going to finish a disappointing 7-9.

  199. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Patriots, Chargers, Vikings & Cardinals are done …

  200. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bears????

    That’s a quite a doozy right there RR.

  201. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Patriots, Chargers, Vikings & Cardinals are done …

    ++++++++++++++++++

    This will be the year Brady, and rivers get their heads caved in….

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bears????

    That’s a quite a doozy right there RR.

    ***

    they’ll run the ball and play good defense. thats what they do in Chicago

    loads of injuries last year. this year they pitched that old man Orlando Pace and added Chester Taylor to complement Matt Forte

    another year of experience for the young wides: Devin Hester, Johnny Knox, Devin Aromashodu & Earl Bennett

    good pair of TE’s in Olsen & Clark

    Martz brought in to “fix” Cutler helped Warner, Green, Bulger & Kitna have excellent seasons

  203. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    AFC:

    East- Jets
    South- Colts
    West- Raiders
    North- Ravens

    WC: Dolphins, Texans
    ———————— Any list W/ no Patriots is a good list.
    I like the optimism with the Raiders, although I would give them a wild card slot instead of division.

  204. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cutler played like crap last year and still managed to throw for 3600 yards and 27 TD’s (plus 1 rushing)

    Bears trying to fix the 26 INT’s and 35 sacks part of the equation … I think they will

  205. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If you say so…..

  206. DKnight007 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    NFC:

    East- Cowboys
    West- Seachickens
    South- Saints
    North- Vikins (w or w/o Brett)

    WC: Redskins, Falcons

    (As much as I am rooting for my fellow Butte College alum Aaron Rodgers, tough schedule and bad O-line still; not getting in)

    ^^^^^^^^
    No way.

    The Packers will make the playoffs by winning the division or getting a wild card. Their defense is too good and the offensive passing attack is too explosive.

    Their O-Line just needs to stay healthy.

  207. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Their O-Line just needs to stay healthy.

    ***

    DKnight007: the Packers drafted Bryan Bulaga & Marshall Newhouse too

  208. DKnight007 Says:

    I think the only way Raiders get in the playoffs this is by WINNING THE DIVISION BABY!

    Got to win the division to get in…otherwise they will be looking from the outside in.

    Too many tougher teams that will challenge for the wild cards

  209. DKnight007 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Every year you get a team that is supposedly going to take that big leap and make the playoffs or SB, and half the time they are a big disappointment.

    Sorry to say, I think the Packers are going to finish a disappointing 7-9.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Only way that happens is IF Rodgers gets hurt and is out for the season.

  210. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Patriots, Chargers, Vikings & Cardinals are done …

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I agree for the most part.

    Vikes are not done…..yet. If Leinart plays well…the Cards can still compete. The Dis-Chargers are on their way down and so are the Pats.

  211. raiders22 Says:

    DENVER IS DOOONNEEEE!!!
    tebow will be the guy by their bye week in week 9. yikes. now lets hope WE stay healthy

  212. bcz24 Says:

    AFC:

    Pats, Ravens, Colts, Raiders (I am not convinced quite yet but I refuse to place the Discharges here)

    WC: Texans, Dolphins (sorry I think Rex Ryans Fantasy team is going to collapse faster than a lawn chair with… well with Rex in it)

    Dallas, Green Bay, San Fran, NO

    WC: Eagles, Falcons

  213. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Sweet practice this morning.

    Wheres Murph?! He was at bowling last night I think…

  214. memo Says:

    It always puts a smile on my face to know that somewhere out there, a Broncos fan is sad.

  215. bcz24 Says:

    There are Broncos fans out there?

  216. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MRI on Fat Albert.

    Should be interesting. If it shows nothing, pressure will be on him to man-up, pass this stupid test and quite complaining. Doubt Albert will take that in stride.

    If it shows injury, Albert could say it was caused by this stupid test, and than another showdown could begin.

    Either way, this dude is turning more and more into a serious issue and distraction to the team.

  217. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Rex Ryans Fantasy team is going to collapse faster than a lawn chair with… well with Rex in it

    ***

    LOL!

  218. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fire Baby: I think Fat Albert has made a decision

    say all the right things to the media and do all the wrong things behind closed doors – like Brandon Marshall.

    eventually he’ll get dumped and another team will snap him up quicker than a Paris Hilton invitation …

    and most likely they’ll PAY THE MAN

  219. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Washington is struggling

    Shanny’s team chemistry vs. Snyder’s checkbook

    sort of like the Cable/Russell episode we watched last season

    JFB, you really think they’ll snatch the NFC wildcard?

  220. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Darrius Heyward-Bey was held out of practice on shorts and a t-shirt, as Coach Cable said he was just given a day of rest. DB Chris Johnson was also held out of practice to rest.

    Comcast SportsNet Bay Area

  221. weaselbit Says:

    Daniels as a 275lb fullback?
    Freaking great idea!
    How long has it been since we had a punishing fullback?
    Marv Hubbard used to hurt defenders for fun.
    Having to deal with shedding the blocks and trying to tackle a 275-pounder for an entire game would wear defenders out. Force them to take some hits. Gets in their head. Lotta defensive guys can dish it out but can’t take it. Not all. But some. Enough.

  222. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kenny Britt admits his offseason was horrible and now his training camp has reached a bump in the road.

    Britt was issued a misdemeanor traffic citation on Wednesday night for driving on a revoked license, according to Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean. He was not arrested, but has a court date coming up. Terry McCormick of FoxSports Tennessee tells us the same news, and notes that Britt violated camp curfew as well.

    The second-year receiver was out of shape for much of the offseason, and was arrested for traffic warrants. Easily the most talented receiver on his team, Britt has been chastised for dropped passes and inconsistency during camp. He’s run with the second team.

    These aren’t huge incidents on their own, but add them all together and it’s easy to see why the Titans don’t yet quite trust Britt to be their “No. 1″ receiver.

    -PFT

    ***

    Who said this guy was better than DHB ???

  223. bcz24 Says:

    I think the Redskins will definitely snap up tickets to the Wildcard game!

  224. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason Hanson, the Detroit Lions’ 40-year-old kicker, is sitting out training camp practices while he recovers from a minor knee injury.

    His teammates think he’s taking cues from another 40-year-old who’s currently sitting out training camp.

    “The guys are giving me a hard time, saying ‘Just don’t show up if you’re going to fake your way through camp,”’ Hanson said. “They’re giving me a hard time about Favre-ing it.”

    Like Brett Favre, Hanson also sat out much of last year’s training camp. But unlike Favre, Hanson is still attending camp, even if his bad knee keeps him from being a full participant.

    “I’d rather be working and get a flow going into the season,” Hanson said.

    Hanson had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee this week and is expected to play Week One.

    ***

    I wish Chaz Schilens would quit Favre-ing it!

  225. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Adrian Peterson could use more work on his pass protection and receiving skills, but missing a few days of training camp shouldn’t be a big deal.

    -PFT

    ***

    fumbling not an issue?

  226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nobody has nagged about DMAC’s pass protection or receiving skills … and he’s been healthy & fumble free since Day 1 of OTA’s

    Lakota: who’s ready to RUE THE DAY ???

  227. Florida Pete Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    AFC:

    East- Jets
    South- Colts
    West- Raiders
    North- Ravens

    WC: Dolphins, Texans
    ———————— Any list W/ no Patriots is a good list.
    I like the optimism with the Raiders, although I would give them a wild card slot instead of division.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    so… you really think the AFC west is going to have more than one team in the playoffs???

  228. HairyBush Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    HairyBush Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    AFC:

    East- Jets
    South- Colts
    West- Raiders
    North- Ravens

    WC: Dolphins, Texans
    ———————— Any list W/ no Patriots is a good list.
    I like the optimism with the Raiders, although I would give them a wild card slot instead of division.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    so… you really think the AFC west is going to have more than one team in the playoffs???
    ——————–
    Honestly? No.

    In kool aid world, maybe

  229. lefty12 Says:

    Very interesting.In games the bust wasn’t a factor last year we ranked 20th in yards per gameMaybe we aren’t as far off as many assume.

  230. RaiderRockstar Says:

    think the AFC west is going to have more than one team in the playoffs???

    ***

    Pete: look at the AFC West right now … why not Oakland?

  231. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Very interesting. In games the bust wasn’t a factor last year we ranked 20th in yards per game. Maybe we aren’t as far off as many assume.

    ***

    has JaWalrus joined the UFL yet?

    has Al Davis recouped the 9.5 million?

  232. Just Fire Baby Says:

    JFB, you really think they’ll snatch the NFC wildcard?

    ********************************

    They had a great D before Albert was there, they will have a great defense if they don’t get much out of them.

    Massively improved their coach and QB situation.

    Playoffs!!

  233. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  234. bcz24 Says:

    JaMarshmallow is slated to join th APFL this year making $.18 a day…. Alabama Prisons Football League

  235. lefty12 Says:

    RRS-don’t know where he is and really don’t give a rats a$$ as long as it isn’t Napa or Oakland.

  236. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    NFC East= Dallas
    NFC South= Atlanta
    NFC North= Green Bay
    NFC West= I hate to even say it but you know SF will

    Wildcards= New York, New Orleans

    AFC East= Miami
    AFC South= Houston
    AFC North= Baltimore
    AFC West= Oakland

    Wildcards= Cincy, New York

  237. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    JaMarshmallow is slated to join th APFL this year making $.18 a day…. Alabama Prisons Football League
    ***************************

    Wow bcz………….that was actually good but I think Russell too dumb to even play QB for them

  238. lefty12 Says:

    JFB,can’t say I agree with you about Wash. massively improving their coaching position or their QB position.Slight improvement in coaching,not sure about QB as McNabb is another year older and has been tailing off the last few years-not to mention hasn’t played a full year in quite a while.

  239. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JaMarshmallow is slated to join th APFL this year making $.18 a day…. Alabama Prisons Football League

    that was actually good but I think Russell too dumb to even play QB for them

    ***

    yeah. Joe McSaladtosser can’t throw 70 yards, but at least he’s accurate!

  240. bcz24 Says:

    Jamarcus says Jamarcus aint too dumb… Jamarcus says them books just dont know how to give Jamarcus infomation. Jamarcus gonna go buys another pair of earing now.

  241. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ROG: no Philly, Chicago, Minnesota, Indy, New England or SD?

  242. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    JFB,can’t say I agree with you about Wash. massively improving their coaching position or their QB position.Slight improvement in coaching,not sure about QB as McNabb is another year older and has been tailing off the last few years-not to mention hasn’t played a full year in quite a while.
    *******************************

    Possibly they will improve on the scale you speak of but i just dont see them as a playoff team at all

  243. lefty12 Says:

    B-neither do I.

  244. RaiderRockstar Says:

    switching to a 3-4 paid off big for Green Bay, but most teams struggle to adapt the first 1 or 2 years … especially without Dom Capers or Dick LeBeau as DC!

    Gregg Williams built that defense in WASH and then he got canned. what a joke. guess who got a Super Bowl ring as DC of New Orleans?

  245. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    ROG: no Philly, Chicago, Minnesota, Indy, New England or SD?
    *********************************

    Football changes from year to year more than any other sport…….its time for some folks to start their obvious decline….you cant be elite forever…..philly is too finesse and lost too much, chi town has c*ntler and less offense than we do, minny wasnt making it favre or no favre their pass d sucks, indy losing SB in that manner is always rough, Pats lost their people i wished we played them, and SD has problems…too much pressure in that organization like you couldnt imagine

  246. Just Fire Baby Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    JFB,can’t say I agree with you about Wash. massively improving their coaching position or their QB position.Slight improvement in coaching,not sure about QB as McNabb is another year older and has been tailing off the last few years-not to mention hasn’t played a full year in quite a while.

    *****************************

    I hate Shananhan, but at worst he is a good coach. Jim Zorn was easily the worst coach in the NFL and maybe one of the worst coaches in our lifetime.

    Meanwhile, McNabb makes the playoffs yearly, and Campbell has never made a team over .500. Ask any GM trying to win in 2010 who they would rather have, I think you will get a consensus.

    Hence, huge upgrade.

  247. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Jamarcus says Jamarcus aint too dumb… Jamarcus says them books just dont know how to give Jamarcus infomation. Jamarcus gonna go buys another pair of earing now.
    ***********************************

    I doubt Russell is even bright enough to know he is speaking in the 3rd person style lol….he is all like “I’m talking in ME person dawwwwwwwgggg now where the “lean’ at?

  248. Thec07 Says:

    the west will be won by the Raiders….

  249. Just Fire Baby Says:

    We got 171 hours until we get to see the Silver and Black again!!

    Count ‘em down

  250. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jamarcus went to court with his initials sewn into his suit.

    What is he like a 60 year old J*w from Florida? Who does that these days?

  251. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    lefty12 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    JFB,can’t say I agree with you about Wash. massively improving their coaching position or their QB position.Slight improvement in coaching,not sure about QB as McNabb is another year older and has been tailing off the last few years-not to mention hasn’t played a full year in quite a while.

    *****************************

    I hate Shananhan, but at worst he is a good coach. Jim Zorn was easily the worst coach in the NFL and maybe one of the worst coaches in our lifetime.

    Meanwhile, McNabb makes the playoffs yearly, and Campbell has never made a team over .500. Ask any GM trying to win in 2010 who they would rather have, I think you will get a consensus.

    Hence, huge upgrade.
    ********************************

    Remember VR…..McNabb has been in one type of offense his entire pro career, now he goes to Shanny…..dont think their be an issue…even a little? Different scheme town and players for Philly and Wash….hell think about a division rival trading their face to you…..someone knows something

  252. edward teach Says:

    The Redskins will not win with Dan Snyder as their owner, and as our friend Mr. Rockstar says, you can print that. The difference between Al Davis and the other “hands-on” owners like Snyder and Jerrah Jones is that Al isn’t pretending like he knows football. He actually DOES know football.

    Shanarat is a known control freak, and I’m a little shocked that he took that job, to tell you the truth. I have a feeling it’s not going to end well out there in DC.

  253. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    the west will be won by the Raiders….
    ************************

    The attitude and effort needed will be there…..just gotta put it together. This team wants to win and having some stand up guys should help us out

  254. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jim Zorn was easily the worst coach in the NFL and maybe one of the worst coaches in our lifetime.

    ***

    who do you think replaced Hue Jackson as QB Coach in Baltimore?

    Zorn > Kiffin.

  255. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    We got 171 hours until we get to see the Silver and Black again!!

    Count ‘em down
    **************************

    Crazy right? Seems like it was only yesterday Russell went to Vegas instead of attend last meeting of the season. My my what a large road we have traveled…..still more to go

  256. Thec07 Says:

    having some stand up guys should help us out
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Truth…

  257. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Redskins have made the playoffs twice in the last 5 years.

    Not like they are the world’s worst team. #7 ranked defense, drafted O-line help, and got some hurt guys back.

    May not make the playoffs, but will be damn close if they miss.

    IMO, change of scenary might be the best thing for the tail-end of McNabb’s career.

  258. lefty12 Says:

    JFB,the rat is still living off his success due to Elway.He hasn’t done squat since he retired.IMO,he is vastly overrated as a HG.I can’t refute your comments regarding McNabb but I think he played on a much better team in Philly and he is an ‘old’ 30ish guy-a lot of injuries the last few years.I’m could very well be mistaken about him but I just have this feeling he won’t be nearly as effective as in the past. A.Rodgers(as an example) has never been to the play-offs either-who would you rather have at this point in time.

  259. Thec07 Says:

    Crazy right? Seems like it was only yesterday Russell went to Vegas instead of attend last meeting of the season. My my what a large road we have traveled…..still more to go

    +++++++++++++++++

    The thing that pi$$ed me off the most was his diamond encrusted effigy of himself….. what a JackA$$

  260. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # edward teach Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    The Redskins will not win with Dan Snyder as their owner, and as our friend Mr. Rockstar says, you can print that. The difference between Al Davis and the other “hands-on” owners like Snyder and Jerrah Jones is that Al isn’t pretending like he knows football. He actually DOES know football.

    Shanarat is a known control freak, and I’m a little shocked that he took that job, to tell you the truth. I have a feeling it’s not going to end well out there in DC.
    ***********************************

    The Teacher speaks…class is in session…………shhhhhhhhhhh everyone

  261. bcz24 Says:

    Sorry… Jamarcus just woke up from Jamarcus nap. What Jamarcus mi…. HANDS OF MY DRANK GOTDAMMMMMIT… ss while jamarcus was sleepin’?

  262. Nnamdi21 Says:

    At todays presser Cable said “They’re going to move the umpire behind the LOS with the referee”

    Which could mean more offensive holding penalties. Glad we didn’t take Iupati and that we got rid of Green.

    Wonder why they’re doing this? I thought defensive holding was going to be watched more closely last year.

    Maybe its to protect the ump from getting killed or gettingin the way of quick slants and the action.

    Not sure I like this move…

  263. RaiderRockstar Says:

    change of scenary might be the best thing for the tail-end of McNabb’s career

    ***

    Andy Reid was loyal to McNabb until the bitter end and what did it net him? ZERO Championships

    McNabb’s play has been spotty the past few years. 400 yards and 3 TD’s in 1 game, then he’ll go to Oakland and get outplayed by JaMarcus

  264. Thec07 Says:

    New post ladies

  265. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ve been saying it for awhile, this might be the most important preseason in a long time for us.

    Of course, not the final score or if we win-lose. Just how we look, how our 1sts look, how our QB(s) look, our rookie MLB, new OC….on and on.

    Back in the Gannon years, preseason games were brutal to watch and you just hoped nobody got hurt. In the Russell era, we just tried to cling to anything positive. Whole different ball-game in 2010.

  266. Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    August 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Crazy right? Seems like it was only yesterday Russell went to Vegas instead of attend last meeting of the season. My my what a large road we have traveled…..still more to go

    +++++++++++++++++

    The thing that pi$$ed me off the most was his diamond encrusted effigy of himself….. what a JackA$$
    *******************************

    Oh you mean the one Kevin Harlan was clowing him about in Feb at the Suns game? Shyt was embarrassing man. He strolled around town with that sporting a large smirk as if he has done shyt…..guy is a loser plain and simple…..his career was over before it started….plus if he stayed here a lead pipe was in his future

  267. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Who is this Jamracus fellow some of you are talking about?

  268. edward teach Says:

    ROG! How’s it, brother? Are you fired up for the season?

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