A footnote, but not an afterthought
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, August 8th, 2010 at 12:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.
For updates on today’s practice session at 3:30 p.m., check my Twitter page.
The three years Jerry Rice spent with the Raiders was a footnote that got reduced to an afterthought in his Hall of Fame speech.
Remove the 243 receptions, 3,286 yards and 18 touchdowns Rice scored with Oakland his career totals would be 1,306 catches, 19,609 yards and 189 touchdowns. That’s still 204 receptions more than Marvin Harrison, 4,401 yards more than Isaac Bruce and 14 more touchdowns than Emmitt Smith, the No. 2 leaders all time in those categories.
I understand why Rice’s induction speech was crafted as it was, with one scant sentence about his Raiders experience and an even longer one later about his “Dancing with the Stars” family.
Play up the Raiders too much and it puts more of a spotlight on the reason he went to Oakland in the first place _ a bitter end to his 49ers tenure which saw Terrell Owens catch 20 passes on his last day in a San Francisco uniform.
Near the end of his career with the team that made him famous, the 49ers didn’t know what to do with Rice. Coaches weren’t sure how to deal with a sullen living legend. Not only were the 49ers 10-22 in his last two seasons, but Rice had become a second wheel behind Owens in 2000, with Owens catching 97 passes for 1,451 yards and 13 touchdowns and Rice with a career-low 10.7 yards per catch and 75 catches, 805 yards and seven touchdowns.
It was Rice’s second straight season below 1,000 yards, he was 38 years old, and he looked at the end of the line.
Instead, the 2001 and 2002 seasons enhanced his legacy, with 83 catches for 1,139 yards and nine touchdowns in 2001 and 92 catches for 1,211 yards and seven scores in 2002 _ the last two 1,000-yard seasons of his career. It was an easy call for Al Davis to bring him aboard, given his track record of trying to squeeze the last bit of “greatness” out of great players.
Rather than be a secondary receiver to Owens, Rice was more or less on equal footing with Tim Brown, with whom he shared an interest in golf as well an impeccable manner of dress and style. He had a quarterback in Rich Gannon who revered Rice for his work ethic.
There was coach Jon Gruden, who seemed to understand the insecurities Rice talked about in his induction speech, constantly poking, prodding and cajoling, and always remind Rice that he was the GOAT (Greatest Of All Time) and never to forget it. He became the oldest player to score a touchdown in a postseason game with nine catches for 183 yards and a touchdown in a 38-24 wild card win over the Jets.
“I had fun, and that’s why I came here,” Rice said at the time. “I wanted to be a factor, and I wanted to win a championship. You’ve got to save your best performances for when they matter the most.”
He was a key part in the Raiders 2002 AFC championship in an offense opened up by Bill Callahan and offensive coordinator Marc Trestman, which was his last season among the elite receivers before finally beginning to show signs of age in 2003.
As it did in San Francisco, it ended badly in Oakland. A consecutive-game streak of 274 games with a catch ended in a 13-10 win over Buffalo, with Rice throwing a fit on the sideline, blaming coach and play-caller Norv Turner and then going to Davis and asking for a trade.
Still, Rice gave the Raiders more production than anyone could have imagined for a player his age, and his Raiders stats alone (243-3,286-17) dwarf those of anyone on the current roster. The receptions are the 10th most in franchise history.
In terms of catches and yards per game, Rice, Brown and Art Powell were the most prolific Raiders receivers.
(Fred Biletnikoff and Cliff Branch played on teams that ran more than they passed, bringing down their per game averages).
Powell averaged 4.535 catches per game from 1963-66, with Rice averaging 4.5 and Brown 4.46. Powell also leads in yards (80.2) followed by Brown (61.9) and Rice (61.4).
In the Canton archives, that might rate more than Dancing with the Stars, but he’s a worthy addition to this year’s Raiders media guide as the 19th player in franchise history to make the Hall of Fame.
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August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Rich, how log until SeyGlen pops up with a new screen name? I say by the eve of 1st pre-season game!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
No, DMAC can’t take the pounding. He better to learn to hold onto the ball better or he won’t even make it in the passing game.
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PEDO……DMAC is fine……not worried at all. The offense will be much better. Remember that fraud of a QB isnt there anymore…at worst by default its a major upgrade
August 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Mista can ya believe we have football tonight and then thursday we get our first look at the 2010 Raiders? Exciting times I tell ya cuz the A’s are 8.5 back and it will take a Boston Celtics type of collapse for us to win the West
August 8th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
If B Beane wasnt such a kunt and added 1 or 2 bats we could compete for the div!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Thursday tips off the season and we get 5 months of comedy from tj. Who could ask for more ?
August 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of that..admit it, Bree the Flea…when you saw Eddie D, you started yelling ‘MAFIA..HE’S IN THE MAFIA”, didn’t you, lol
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No StirFry I mean Rott errr…PEDOchet……I thought cheater and then Rice was standing next to him and I thought about the tragedy of your precious win for Prop 8 the other day
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lol…I posted the other day how funny it was seeing someone smack on you, and you immediately jumped into the fetal position, and said “OMG..IT MUST BE RICHO..IT JUST HAS TO BE..I JUST FEEL IT”
Like I said, someone gets you to jump, and you automatically think I’m holding the leash?
And yeah, I also laughed at the “10 YEARS AGO I WENT ON THE RADIO AND SAID THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL….SO THERE”
think about it, Flea, lol…pretty weak.
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Fetal position? No PEDO I’m not you chaperoning a middle school dance for boys
No one smacked meand no one ever will….you have tried and failed miserably
PEDO that was you trolling and its funny after being called out about it you show up…HAHAHAHA I dont have to think about shyt, you have always been a weak person but yet you are comedy
August 8th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
No, DMAC can’t take the pounding. He better to learn to hold onto the ball better or he won’t even make it in the passing game.
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PEDO……DMAC is fine……not worried at all. The offense will be much better. Remember that fraud of a QB isnt there anymore…at worst by default its a major upgrade
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Fine?
Compared to what?
Guy just doesn’t have it to be a featured back. Those spindly legs, his hands of stone, and his “I was touched, therefore I’m down” mode of running isn’t what we need.
Give Bush the job, Cable…take a stand you sorry blob, and don’t do what you did last year, which was have no idea who your RB was throughout training camp, much less the season.
August 8th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
You have to wonder how mentally i’ll & deranged tj is to call people out for the very same things he does on a daily basis. Such a mope he is and an embarrassment to Raider nation!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
MB
I was joking about the three headed monster
August 8th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Rich, how log until SeyGlen pops up with a new screen name? I say by the eve of 1st pre-season game!
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I say if we win against Dallas, shortly thereafter.
A loss and his three new handles will have to wait another 5 days.
But hey, with Oakdork, he could be anyone of the new names plastered around here.
Even he isn’t so stupid that he’ll continue on with his previous M.O. which is immediately going after you, me, KK, and whoever.
Oh wait…it’s Oakdork, lol..anything is possible
August 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Ok Plunk I kinda thought you were but wasnt 100%
August 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Rice can go F himself.
Never liked him, never will!
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Agreed….those who had a Rice jersey on during those days are cowards and deserve to be put to death
August 8th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Actually he is exactly that stupid he has done it with every name change…lol
August 8th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
No, DMAC can’t take the pounding. He better to learn to hold onto the ball better or he won’t even make it in the passing game.
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PEDO……DMAC is fine……not worried at all. The offense will be much better. Remember that fraud of a QB isnt there anymore…at worst by default its a major upgrade
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Fine?
Compared to what?
Guy just doesn’t have it to be a featured back. Those spindly legs, his hands of stone, and his “I was touched, therefore I’m down” mode of running isn’t what we need.
Give Bush the job, Cable…take a stand you sorry blob, and don’t do what you did last year, which was have no idea who your RB was throughout training camp, much less the season.
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Dont need him to be featured back……Bush gets 20 carries and Dmac 15……perfect
August 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Agreed.
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Jerry Still Hating On The ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Agreed….those who had a Rice jersey on during those days are cowards and deserve to be put to death
August 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
But PEDOchet…..you should be worrying about your 49ers…..you should be excited…the NFC Less is up for grabs and you wanna spend your time on a Raider blog LOLOLOLOLOLOL too funny
Or………..you should be concerned about old man Kell rapidly approaching your home with his walker to teach you a lesson sonny boy
August 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of that..admit it, Bree the Flea…when you saw Eddie D, you started yelling ‘MAFIA..HE’S IN THE MAFIA”, didn’t you, lol
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No StirFry I mean Rott errr…PEDOchet……I thought cheater and then Rice was standing next to him and I thought about the tragedy of your precious win for Prop 8 the other day
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lol…I posted the other day how funny it was seeing someone smack on you, and you immediately jumped into the fetal position, and said “OMG..IT MUST BE RICHO..IT JUST HAS TO BE..I JUST FEEL IT”
Like I said, someone gets you to jump, and you automatically think I’m holding the leash?
And yeah, I also laughed at the “10 YEARS AGO I WENT ON THE RADIO AND SAID THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL….SO THERE”
think about it, Flea, lol…pretty weak.
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Fetal position? No PEDO I’m not you chaperoning a middle school dance for boys
No one smacked meand no one ever will….you have tried and failed miserably
PEDO that was you trolling and its funny after being called out about it you show up…HAHAHAHA I dont have to think about shyt, you have always been a weak person but yet you are comedy
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Slow down. Think. then post.
Weren’t those posts you referred to a week ago? or whatever?
I showed up back from vacation the other day..why would I EVER need to post as anyone else, especially to get over on you? lol…geez…it’s kidsplay.
However, that said, still pretty funny your comment about how YOU PREDICTED THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL, and then you crowed, as if you’re a prophet, adding “everyone knows I don’t lie”
Classic stuff…
Bad news for ya…last year you predicted a ton of stuff about what was happening with the Raiders. Pretty much torched that one, Flea.
Maybe you’re a closet Niner fan???
food for thought.
August 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
lol @ KK goin after somebody with a walker!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Rich, how log until SeyGlen pops up with a new screen name? I say by the eve of 1st pre-season game!
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I say if we win against Dallas, shortly thereafter.
A loss and his three new handles will have to wait another 5 days.
But hey, with Oakdork, he could be anyone of the new names plastered around here.
Even he isn’t so stupid that he’ll continue on with his previous M.O. which is immediately going after you, me, KK, and whoever.
Oh wait…it’s Oakdork, lol..anything is possible
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LOL @ we…..hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha PEDOchet the laughs never stop with you….I propose you Kell and BHP form a comedy trio and hit the road. You can let the two OGs school ya and show ya the ropes
August 8th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Football is here and the JaMarcus B0b@ma libt@rds have slithered under their rocks…good stuff!
Go Raiders!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
But PEDOchet…..you should be worrying about your 49ers…..you should be excited…the NFC Less is up for grabs and you wanna spend your time on a Raider blog LOLOLOLOLOLOL too funny
Or………..you should be concerned about old man Kell rapidly approaching your home with his walker to teach you a lesson sonny boy
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Naw..lol…not worried about it, considering I live in Pleasanton, and he showed up somewhere over there because of a caller ID number on his phone, from a call that hung up?
that alone is pretty weird, if he actually did go up and talk to some guy.
Now..don’t be all butthurt that I schooled you on the Niners, much like I do with the Raiders.
You opened mouth..I simply informed you of the error of your ways.
Aren’t you used to that by now?
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of that..admit it, Bree the Flea…when you saw Eddie D, you started yelling ‘MAFIA..HE’S IN THE MAFIA”, didn’t you, lol
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No StirFry I mean Rott errr…PEDOchet……I thought cheater and then Rice was standing next to him and I thought about the tragedy of your precious win for Prop 8 the other day
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lol…I posted the other day how funny it was seeing someone smack on you, and you immediately jumped into the fetal position, and said “OMG..IT MUST BE RICHO..IT JUST HAS TO BE..I JUST FEEL IT”
Like I said, someone gets you to jump, and you automatically think I’m holding the leash?
And yeah, I also laughed at the “10 YEARS AGO I WENT ON THE RADIO AND SAID THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL….SO THERE”
think about it, Flea, lol…pretty weak.
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Fetal position? No PEDO I’m not you chaperoning a middle school dance for boys
No one smacked meand no one ever will….you have tried and failed miserably
PEDO that was you trolling and its funny after being called out about it you show up…HAHAHAHA I dont have to think about shyt, you have always been a weak person but yet you are comedy
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Slow down. Think. then post.
Weren’t those posts you referred to a week ago? or whatever?
I showed up back from vacation the other day..why would I EVER need to post as anyone else, especially to get over on you? lol…geez…it’s kidsplay.
However, that said, still pretty funny your comment about how YOU PREDICTED THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL, and then you crowed, as if you’re a prophet, adding “everyone knows I don’t lie”
Classic stuff…
Bad news for ya…last year you predicted a ton of stuff about what was happening with the Raiders. Pretty much torched that one, Flea.
Maybe you’re a closet Niner fan???
food for thought.
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Sorry but never liked the 49ers and root for Chiefs,Chargers and Broncos when they play the 49ers so try again……actually last year before the season I came out hard on Russell because the stories in the bay area kept coming out, hey who knew Cable was that stupid? I know he is a moron but he reached levels that MR couldnt even predict and I never thought we were winning the division in 09 with Russell…..certainly had some talent but with a QB like that who can win?
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
How did the ROG & Rich feud get started anyway ?
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Football is here and the JaMarcus B0b@ma libt@rds have slithered under their rocks…good stuff!
Go Raiders!
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Seems the mods gave the political jargon carte blanche for the offseason, and nixed it once camp started, thank God.
Your welcome.
August 8th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
How did the ROG & Rich feud get started anyway ?
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He got all prissy, and I schooled him.
Pretty much that, in a nut shell, lol
August 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
But PEDOchet…..you should be worrying about your 49ers…..you should be excited…the NFC Less is up for grabs and you wanna spend your time on a Raider blog LOLOLOLOLOLOL too funny
Or………..you should be concerned about old man Kell rapidly approaching your home with his walker to teach you a lesson sonny boy
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Naw..lol…not worried about it, considering I live in Pleasanton, and he showed up somewhere over there because of a caller ID number on his phone, from a call that hung up?
that alone is pretty weird, if he actually did go up and talk to some guy.
Now..don’t be all butthurt that I schooled you on the Niners, much like I do with the Raiders.
You opened mouth..I simply informed you of the error of your ways.
Aren’t you used to that by now?
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Yawwwnnnnnn you never schooled me because you are incapable of such. Again I showed you a well known 49er site and you wanna quote a book by a known idiot who isnt evena sports writer lol….You talk lame shyt that Eddie D didnt have mafia ties well Dan Moldea’s book showed that wasnt the case…..then on top of that you lied and said John Vella’s store isnt a Raider store and that they sell ALL other team’s merchandise with was a lie lol
August 8th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
I see the board is in midseason form, lol!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of that..admit it, Bree the Flea…when you saw Eddie D, you started yelling ‘MAFIA..HE’S IN THE MAFIA”, didn’t you, lol
***********************
No StirFry I mean Rott errr…PEDOchet……I thought cheater and then Rice was standing next to him and I thought about the tragedy of your precious win for Prop 8 the other day
==================
lol…I posted the other day how funny it was seeing someone smack on you, and you immediately jumped into the fetal position, and said “OMG..IT MUST BE RICHO..IT JUST HAS TO BE..I JUST FEEL IT”
Like I said, someone gets you to jump, and you automatically think I’m holding the leash?
And yeah, I also laughed at the “10 YEARS AGO I WENT ON THE RADIO AND SAID THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL….SO THERE”
think about it, Flea, lol…pretty weak.
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Fetal position? No PEDO I’m not you chaperoning a middle school dance for boys
No one smacked meand no one ever will….you have tried and failed miserably
PEDO that was you trolling and its funny after being called out about it you show up…HAHAHAHA I dont have to think about shyt, you have always been a weak person but yet you are comedy
==========================================
Slow down. Think. then post.
Weren’t those posts you referred to a week ago? or whatever?
I showed up back from vacation the other day..why would I EVER need to post as anyone else, especially to get over on you? lol…geez…it’s kidsplay.
However, that said, still pretty funny your comment about how YOU PREDICTED THE NINERS WOULDN’T DO WELL, and then you crowed, as if you’re a prophet, adding “everyone knows I don’t lie”
Classic stuff…
Bad news for ya…last year you predicted a ton of stuff about what was happening with the Raiders. Pretty much torched that one, Flea.
Maybe you’re a closet Niner fan???
food for thought.
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Sorry but never liked the 49ers and root for Chiefs,Chargers and Broncos when they play the 49ers so try again……actually last year before the season I came out hard on Russell because the stories in the bay area kept coming out, hey who knew Cable was that stupid? I know he is a moron but he reached levels that MR couldnt even predict and I never thought we were winning the division in 09 with Russell…..certainly had some talent but with a QB like that who can win?
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No one.
And was still scary is the TWO GUYS WHO STUCK WITH HIM ARE STILL THE HEAD COACH, AND STILL THE OWNER.
Not exactly a warm and fuzzy feeling
August 8th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
How did the ROG & Rich feud get started anyway ?
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He got all prissy, and I schooled him.
Pretty much that, in a nut shell, lol
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Again another lie……..PEDO came in here spouting off BS because he is a 49er lover and got smacked….his only get back to lie as evidenced by his John Vella selling NFL merchandise of other teams…..sorry PEDO if you lied about that then you are lying about everything else…. try again buddy
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Rog you are in Rich’s cross hairs to the level of SeyGlen…lol
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Vella did sell some 9er krap last time I was in there.
August 8th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Mista this isnt a feud……its similar to how I bully MR on the constant…..PEDOchet hates the Raiders plain and simple. He has an agenda
August 8th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
SeyGlen will create another screen name, call me a Browns fan, and then swear up & down he is not SeyGlen…u watch!
August 8th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Vella did sell some 9er krap last time I was in there.
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An autographed Joe Montana jersey which we already established last year…..Mista call up Vella’s store now and ask them are they geared to selling Raider stuff….PEDOchet last year said that isnt the case lol
August 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Rog you are in Rich’s cross hairs to the level of SeyGlen…lol
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PEDO is just another punching bag for me…..look at this way….I’m Tom Cable and he is Randy Hanson
August 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
With the Raiders having moved Richard Seymour inside to tackle alongside Tommy Kelly, Henderson and second-year Desmond Bryant are competing for time. In most alignments, it will be Seymour as the three technique and Kelly over the nose, but Cable said the Raiders will be able to slide their line to create mismatches.
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So you want to hang your hat on a JERRY interpretation? I don’t see Tom Cable being quoted!
WTF does “Kelly OVER the nose” mean?
I accepted GGs definition of weakside gap DT and strongside gap DT, lol.
YOU have offered NOTHING to the so called NT you talk about. If you mean NT in the sense of lining up over the CENTER, then you’re wrong and enjoy getting run through.
August 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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Yawwwnnnnnn you never schooled me because you are incapable of such. Again I showed you a well known 49er site and you wanna quote a book by a known idiot who isnt evena sports writer lol….You talk lame shyt that Eddie D didnt have mafia ties well Dan Moldea’s book showed that wasnt the case…..then on top of that you lied and said John Vella’s store isnt a Raider store and that they sell ALL other team’s merchandise with was a lie lol
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LMFAO at “I showed you a well known 49er site”…DUDE, YOU POINTED TO A COMMENT BY A SINGLE NINER FAN AS YOUR SOURCE OF INFO..that’s like someone arguing with a Charger fan, and pointing to something MR said as “PROOF THAT IT’S TRUE”.
Yeah, I think I’ll take an author who wrote out a detailed book, over a sorry single poster on a thread somewhere, lol…WHICH DO YOU GIVE CREDIT TO?? The poster? You serious?
And I’ll say it again, you assume Eddie D had mafia ties because he’s ITALIAN..and I laughed that it bothered you so much.
YOU ALSO RAN THE CARMEN POLICY DEFENDS MOB GUYS as another reason, which was also pretty funny (yeah, he does represent mobsters,…so what?)
And stop with the BS…I NEVER STATED VILLA’S STORE WASN’T A RAIDER STORE..I said that his Raider store also had other teams items for sale, specifically a signed Montana placard, and other team hats..don’t recall who or what..
how odd you bring that up, lol…you’re reaching, aren’t ya?
August 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Mista hell there is some Giants Memorabilia, but leave it up to PEDO in his mind Vella is selling Gore and Craptree jerseys hahahahahahahahahahahaha
August 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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Yawwwnnnnnn you never schooled me because you are incapable of such. Again I showed you a well known 49er site and you wanna quote a book by a known idiot who isnt evena sports writer lol….You talk lame shyt that Eddie D didnt have mafia ties well Dan Moldea’s book showed that wasnt the case…..then on top of that you lied and said John Vella’s store isnt a Raider store and that they sell ALL other team’s merchandise with was a lie lol
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LMFAO at “I showed you a well known 49er site”…DUDE, YOU POINTED TO A COMMENT BY A SINGLE NINER FAN AS YOUR SOURCE OF INFO..that’s like someone arguing with a Charger fan, and pointing to something MR said as “PROOF THAT IT’S TRUE”.
Yeah, I think I’ll take an author who wrote out a detailed book, over a sorry single poster on a thread somewhere, lol…WHICH DO YOU GIVE CREDIT TO?? The poster? You serious?
And I’ll say it again, you assume Eddie D had mafia ties because he’s ITALIAN..and I laughed that it bothered you so much.
YOU ALSO RAN THE CARMEN POLICY DEFENDS MOB GUYS as another reason, which was also pretty funny (yeah, he does represent mobsters,…so what?)
And stop with the BS…I NEVER STATED VILLA’S STORE WASN’T A RAIDER STORE..I said that his Raider store also had other teams items for sale, specifically a signed Montana placard, and other team hats..don’t recall who or what..
how odd you bring that up, lol…you’re reaching, aren’t ya?
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LOL look at PEDO backtrack hahahahahahahahaha….come on stand on what you say….only women try to lie like this….this is sad my friend
Single 49er fan? Guy runs the fukin site PEDO
Um Carmen Policy does defend Mob guys….not once did I ever say Eddie D was tied to mob because he was Italian…again you remind me of my bz making false claims….SMH
You are flat out lying about Vella’s store….you said it wasnt a Raider store lol….come on man….this is sad PEDO…..you said it was an NFL store……PEDO dont switch up on us now
August 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Vella did sell some 9er krap last time I was in there.
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An autographed Joe Montana jersey which we already established last year…..Mista call up Vella’s store now and ask them are they geared to selling Raider stuff….PEDOchet last year said that isnt the case lol
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Again, you’re confused.
As Mr. B said, it’s a Raider store that WISELY SELLS WHAT ANYONE WILL BUY.
His Castro Valley store has lots of Niner fans that live in the area..(actually, he closed that store) and was full of Raider stuff, with a small amount of other gear.)and while not paying attention to what was there, I definitely noticed the cross town colors, albeit not much
August 8th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
As for Italian mobsters….they aint shyt compared to those that run them…JOOS…..Meyer Lansky coldest bastard ever and Italians wanted no part of that so spare me the because he was Italian crap….do all Irish people drink until they are damn near dead? Do all asian people know martial arts? Please stop this
August 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
My memory says his store was about 98% Raider gear with some 9er krap sprinkled in here and there. He had hats behind the counter of Baseball, Football, and Basketball….I think
August 8th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Vella did sell some 9er krap last time I was in there.
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An autographed Joe Montana jersey which we already established last year…..Mista call up Vella’s store now and ask them are they geared to selling Raider stuff….PEDOchet last year said that isnt the case lol
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Again, you’re confused.
As Mr. B said, it’s a Raider store that WISELY SELLS WHAT ANYONE WILL BUY.
His Castro Valley store has lots of Niner fans that live in the area..(actually, he closed that store) and was full of Raider stuff, with a small amount of other gear.)and while not paying attention to what was there, I definitely noticed the cross town colors, albeit not much
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LOL what Castro Valley store? That isnt up anymore and hasnt been for a minute….TRY again
Dont run to what Mista said….stand on your own….be a man….you need the training for your big bout with Kell….I dont want to see you get Robin Venture style against Nolan Ryan
August 8th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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Yawwwnnnnnn you never schooled me because you are incapable of such. Again I showed you a well known 49er site and you wanna quote a book by a known idiot who isnt evena sports writer lol….You talk lame shyt that Eddie D didnt have mafia ties well Dan Moldea’s book showed that wasnt the case…..then on top of that you lied and said John Vella’s store isnt a Raider store and that they sell ALL other team’s merchandise with was a lie lol
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LMFAO at “I showed you a well known 49er site”…DUDE, YOU POINTED TO A COMMENT BY A SINGLE NINER FAN AS YOUR SOURCE OF INFO..that’s like someone arguing with a Charger fan, and pointing to something MR said as “PROOF THAT IT’S TRUE”.
Yeah, I think I’ll take an author who wrote out a detailed book, over a sorry single poster on a thread somewhere, lol…WHICH DO YOU GIVE CREDIT TO?? The poster? You serious?
And I’ll say it again, you assume Eddie D had mafia ties because he’s ITALIAN..and I laughed that it bothered you so much.
YOU ALSO RAN THE CARMEN POLICY DEFENDS MOB GUYS as another reason, which was also pretty funny (yeah, he does represent mobsters,…so what?)
And stop with the BS…I NEVER STATED VILLA’S STORE WASN’T A RAIDER STORE..I said that his Raider store also had other teams items for sale, specifically a signed Montana placard, and other team hats..don’t recall who or what..
how odd you bring that up, lol…you’re reaching, aren’t ya?
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LOL look at PEDO backtrack hahahahahahahahaha….come on stand on what you say….only women try to lie like this….this is sad my friend
Single 49er fan? Guy runs the fukin site PEDO
Um Carmen Policy does defend Mob guys….not once did I ever say Eddie D was tied to mob because he was Italian…again you remind me of my bz making false claims….SMH
You are flat out lying about Vella’s store….you said it wasnt a Raider store lol….come on man….this is sad PEDO…..you said it was an NFL store……PEDO dont switch up on us now
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BULL****..care to bet?
Come on..put your money where your mouth is.
THE POSTS ARE STILL THERE. GO LOOK..you won’t find a single comment from me that says ‘IT’S NOT A RAIDER STORE”.
I doubt your lying, I just think all those drugs you admitted you ingested has you loopy, lol.
And AGAIN, you don’t want me schooling you again regarding Joe Thomas, do you?
You know..the guy who had been at Debartelo family dinners for over ten years, that YOU stated “Al Davis introduced Thomas to the Debartelo’s when they got the team”??
You don’t REALLY WANT TO GO THERE, AGAIN, DO YOU?
And AGAIN, no where, anywhere, does anyone say Eddie D is mobbed up, just YOU.
now..if it’s NOT because he’s Italian (which I stated back then is the only reason you would say it) then why?
Oh..the mailman told you?
No? Then why?
BECAUSE HE’S ITALIAN
August 8th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
My memory says his store was about 98% Raider gear with some 9er krap sprinkled in here and there. He had hats behind the counter of Baseball, Football, and Basketball….I think
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Only 49er crap he ever has had was plaques like Memorabilia shyt…never once has a 49er hat or even jersey like you see on the streets ever sold there Mista……I went in there at the beginning of the summer and told the worker bz in there what PEDO claimed and I swear she laughed as if i was Richard Pryor or something
August 8th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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Yawwwnnnnnn you never schooled me because you are incapable of such. Again I showed you a well known 49er site and you wanna quote a book by a known idiot who isnt evena sports writer lol….You talk lame shyt that Eddie D didnt have mafia ties well Dan Moldea’s book showed that wasnt the case…..then on top of that you lied and said John Vella’s store isnt a Raider store and that they sell ALL other team’s merchandise with was a lie lol
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LMFAO at “I showed you a well known 49er site”…DUDE, YOU POINTED TO A COMMENT BY A SINGLE NINER FAN AS YOUR SOURCE OF INFO..that’s like someone arguing with a Charger fan, and pointing to something MR said as “PROOF THAT IT’S TRUE”.
Yeah, I think I’ll take an author who wrote out a detailed book, over a sorry single poster on a thread somewhere, lol…WHICH DO YOU GIVE CREDIT TO?? The poster? You serious?
And I’ll say it again, you assume Eddie D had mafia ties because he’s ITALIAN..and I laughed that it bothered you so much.
YOU ALSO RAN THE CARMEN POLICY DEFENDS MOB GUYS as another reason, which was also pretty funny (yeah, he does represent mobsters,…so what?)
And stop with the BS…I NEVER STATED VILLA’S STORE WASN’T A RAIDER STORE..I said that his Raider store also had other teams items for sale, specifically a signed Montana placard, and other team hats..don’t recall who or what..
how odd you bring that up, lol…you’re reaching, aren’t ya?
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LOL look at PEDO backtrack hahahahahahahahaha….come on stand on what you say….only women try to lie like this….this is sad my friend
Single 49er fan? Guy runs the fukin site PEDO
Um Carmen Policy does defend Mob guys….not once did I ever say Eddie D was tied to mob because he was Italian…again you remind me of my bz making false claims….SMH
You are flat out lying about Vella’s store….you said it wasnt a Raider store lol….come on man….this is sad PEDO…..you said it was an NFL store……PEDO dont switch up on us now
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BULL****..care to bet?
Come on..put your money where your mouth is.
THE POSTS ARE STILL THERE. GO LOOK..you won’t find a single comment from me that says ‘IT’S NOT A RAIDER STORE”.
I doubt your lying, I just think all those drugs you admitted you ingested has you loopy, lol.
And AGAIN, you don’t want me schooling you again regarding Joe Thomas, do you?
You know..the guy who had been at Debartelo family dinners for over ten years, that YOU stated “Al Davis introduced Thomas to the Debartelo’s when they got the team”??
You don’t REALLY WANT TO GO THERE, AGAIN, DO YOU?
And AGAIN, no where, anywhere, does anyone say Eddie D is mobbed up, just YOU.
now..if it’s NOT because he’s Italian (which I stated back then is the only reason you would say it) then why?
Oh..the mailman told you?
No? Then why?
BECAUSE HE’S ITALIAN
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LOL pitiful PEDO….yes Al Davis did get Joe Thomas there and they already had history together…I’ve explained this to you many times but like a woman your emotions are getting involved….hey you see Jed York a few months ago saying Al Davis was responsible for his…………aw nevermind you will find a way to Bill O’reilly that one too LOL
August 8th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
BTW…I NEVER saw what you’re talking about, regarding the Niner site, which, AGAIN, is pretty sad that you use a poster as your source..but I’m up for a good laugh…post the link, I’ll check it out.
(bad news for you, however…see…ANYONE CAN START A SITE, ABOUT ANYTHING. Doesn’t mean you’re now an expert. Look at Nnamdi NumNum’s..plagiarizes others words, pastes them on a “Raider site”, and points to it routinely.
As we well know, he’s about as informed about the Raiders as a gnat.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
But notice people the great lengths PEDO will go to defend the 49ers?….but earlier he said if “we” beat dallas…..hahahahahahahahahahahaha
August 8th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
BTW…I NEVER saw what you’re talking about, regarding the Niner site, which, AGAIN, is pretty sad that you use a poster as your source..but I’m up for a good laugh…post the link, I’ll check it out.
(bad news for you, however…see…ANYONE CAN START A SITE, ABOUT ANYTHING. Doesn’t mean you’re now an expert. Look at Nnamdi NumNum’s..plagiarizes others words, pastes them on a “Raider site”, and points to it routinely.
As we well know, he’s about as informed about the Raiders as a gnat.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 8th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
This is just an easy beating….again…..wiping his ass with the roughest of sand paper
August 8th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
And the idiot who wrote that Bill Walsh book is an expert? NEXT
August 8th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Speaking of uninformed and stupid, did Fatt Runt finally run out of stimulus $$$ and lose his internet?
A gift from God if he did..
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
My memory says his store was about 98% Raider gear with some 9er krap sprinkled in here and there. He had hats behind the counter of Baseball, Football, and Basketball….I think
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Only 49er crap he ever has had was plaques like Memorabilia shyt…never once has a 49er hat or even jersey like you see on the streets ever sold there Mista……I went in there at the beginning of the summer and told the worker bz in there what PEDO claimed and I swear she laughed as if i was Richard Pryor or something
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Aww..so he DID SELL NINER STUFF???
Yeah, lol..I know.
And did you just say that you went in, on a special trip, and mentioned me?
Damn..I have a groupy
that’s so cool, lol.
BTW..few years ago, as a joke, one of my neighbors, who’s a Niner fan, bought another Raider fan neighbor a Niner christmas ornament for the tree, from Villa’s in castro valley.
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I know it hurts PEDOchet, it hurts all you SF lovers about the truth but thats okay…..look PEDO you have alot to be excited about for the upcoming season…it seems your 49ers have inside track on the division…..you should go there and discuss those sort of things….me and my Raider brothers got Raider biz to discuss….stick with your own kind Gold Rush girl
August 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
My memory says his store was about 98% Raider gear with some 9er krap sprinkled in here and there. He had hats behind the counter of Baseball, Football, and Basketball….I think
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Only 49er crap he ever has had was plaques like Memorabilia shyt…never once has a 49er hat or even jersey like you see on the streets ever sold there Mista……I went in there at the beginning of the summer and told the worker bz in there what PEDO claimed and I swear she laughed as if i was Richard Pryor or something
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Aww..so he DID SELL NINER STUFF???
Yeah, lol..I know.
And did you just say that you went in, on a special trip, and mentioned me?
Damn..I have a groupy
that’s so cool, lol.
BTW..few years ago, as a joke, one of my neighbors, who’s a Niner fan, bought another Raider fan neighbor a Niner christmas ornament for the tree, from Villa’s in castro valley.
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too funny….keep it going PEDO one day someone will believe you
so PEDO you gonna go to Vella’s store and purchase a Patrick Willis Jersey? No Taylor Mays?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
But notice people the great lengths PEDO will go to defend the 49ers?….but earlier he said if “we” beat dallas…..hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Don’t abuse the right to be confused.
Defend the Niners?
I torched your sorryass regarding info you posted about the Niners, simply because you were rambling off silly stuff, trying to make something stick.
Like you are now…we’re talking about Eddie D, and the induction ceremony, and because you know you don’t stand a chance on that, you jump to Villa?
Huh? lol…and toss in York??
Called “grasping for straws”…and failing
August 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Here it comes…..pumpkin….peanut…..LOL
August 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
But notice people the great lengths PEDO will go to defend the 49ers?….but earlier he said if “we” beat dallas…..hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Don’t abuse the right to be confused.
Defend the Niners?
I torched your sorryass regarding info you posted about the Niners, simply because you were rambling off silly stuff, trying to make something stick.
Like you are now…we’re talking about Eddie D, and the induction ceremony, and because you know you don’t stand a chance on that, you jump to Villa?
Huh? lol…and toss in York??
Called “grasping for straws”…and failing
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You have no fire therefore there wasnt a torch…try again PEDO
We are jumping to all your BS and if you didnt notice Mista asked a question regarding you and I….keep up buddy
August 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too funny….keep it going PEDO one day someone will believe you
so PEDO you gonna go to Vella’s store and purchase a Patrick Willis Jersey? No Taylor Mays?
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First you state Villa NEVER SOLD ANYTHING NINERS.
Then, after Mr. B states ‘I saw stuff there”, you change your tune to “oh, but JUST that stuff”
You ever get the idea you should contemplate whether or not you should engage in things you aren’t sure about?
Like the raiders, or the niners, or football in general?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Defend the Niners?
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Come on PEDO…..now you wanna front……not cool
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Here it comes…..pumpkin….peanut…..LOL
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You’re such a toady, pumpkin
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too funny….keep it going PEDO one day someone will believe you
so PEDO you gonna go to Vella’s store and purchase a Patrick Willis Jersey? No Taylor Mays?
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First you state Villa NEVER SOLD ANYTHING NINERS.
Then, after Mr. B states ‘I saw stuff there”, you change your tune to “oh, but JUST that stuff”
You ever get the idea you should contemplate whether or not you should engage in things you aren’t sure about?
Like the raiders, or the niners, or football in general?
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Idiot go scroll up and try reading actually….this is beyond pitiful….notice I said only thing they have in there are memorabilia likethe autographed Joe jersey in a plaque we talked about or maybe another plaque….been said that, but you made it like shirts hats and jerseys are there as well like its a Bay Area store…..you are reaching but as your wife said you just cant get to that spot
August 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Here it comes…..pumpkin….peanut…..LOL
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You’re such a toady, pumpkin
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Vintage PEDO lol
August 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Hmmm..update…
Thomas…you didn’t fare too well there.
Villa..brought that up because you wisely backed off the “my source is a Niner poster on a Niner site” angle…but didn’t fare to well there either.
Eddie D just gives ya the willys, lol…so I can understand you avoiding that crash and burn from way back when…
That pretty much sums it up, I believe
August 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Is it Vella or Villa?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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Dont matter both he and DMAC will be basically splitting time
August 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too funny….keep it going PEDO one day someone will believe you
so PEDO you gonna go to Vella’s store and purchase a Patrick Willis Jersey? No Taylor Mays?
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First you state Villa NEVER SOLD ANYTHING NINERS.
Then, after Mr. B states ‘I saw stuff there”, you change your tune to “oh, but JUST that stuff”
You ever get the idea you should contemplate whether or not you should engage in things you aren’t sure about?
Like the raiders, or the niners, or football in general?
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Idiot go scroll up and try reading actually….this is beyond pitiful….notice I said only thing they have in there are memorabilia likethe autographed Joe jersey in a plaque we talked about or maybe another plaque….been said that, but you made it like shirts hats and jerseys are there as well like its a Bay Area store…..you are reaching but as your wife said you just cant get to that spot
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Flea? wife takes? Seriously???
Kind of means you’re throwing in the towel.
Kindly refrain in the future, as the mods here have everyone on a short leash, and you seem to have this knack of when I start one-upping ya, you go out of your way to get banned.
Ok, peanut?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
or maybe Veilla?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# Raider E Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Is it Vella or Villa?
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My bad…it’s Vella
August 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Hmmm..update…
Thomas…you didn’t fare too well there.
Villa..brought that up because you wisely backed off the “my source is a Niner poster on a Niner site” angle…but didn’t fare to well there either.
Eddie D just gives ya the willys, lol…so I can understand you avoiding that crash and burn from way back when…
That pretty much sums it up, I believe
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Ha a MSNBC update?
It is common knowledge Joe Thomas was suggested by Al Davis…..too bad your agenda prevents you from admitting that….Joe Thomas done trades before with Al….NEXT
I never backed off anything, I stand by what I say unlike you backtracker
Sorry a 49er site admitting the truth pretty much puts you to shame…..try again
Eddie D gives me the willys? HAHAHA are you Italian? Because you sure you really offended, hey yo whoooooooaaa!
I crash inside of bzies and i burn their weed and money…………..try again PEDO
August 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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By far, IMO.
He fights for yards, is not easy to take down, and isn’t injury prone.
DMAC doesn’t fight for yards, goes down from a stiff breeze, and can’t stay off the injury list.
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
August 8th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Kind of funny that you find it so amazing that retail outlets, that sell football items, would completely shut off local buyers that support another local team.
Only an idiot would do that, and Villa’s not an idiot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too funny….keep it going PEDO one day someone will believe you
so PEDO you gonna go to Vella’s store and purchase a Patrick Willis Jersey? No Taylor Mays?
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First you state Villa NEVER SOLD ANYTHING NINERS.
Then, after Mr. B states ‘I saw stuff there”, you change your tune to “oh, but JUST that stuff”
You ever get the idea you should contemplate whether or not you should engage in things you aren’t sure about?
Like the raiders, or the niners, or football in general?
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Idiot go scroll up and try reading actually….this is beyond pitiful….notice I said only thing they have in there are memorabilia likethe autographed Joe jersey in a plaque we talked about or maybe another plaque….been said that, but you made it like shirts hats and jerseys are there as well like its a Bay Area store…..you are reaching but as your wife said you just cant get to that spot
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Flea? wife takes? Seriously???
Kind of means you’re throwing in the towel.
Kindly refrain in the future, as the mods here have everyone on a short leash, and you seem to have this knack of when I start one-upping ya, you go out of your way to get banned.
Ok, peanut?
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Sorry my little 49er ballerina but I was getting banned before you came on here as PEDOchet so that angle just wont work….find a new one
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I hope Jerry Rice is not persona non-grata now in Alameda because he didn’t mention Al Davis at his induction speech.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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Was there a football post I missed?
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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By far, IMO.
He fights for yards, is not easy to take down, and isn’t injury prone.
DMAC doesn’t fight for yards, goes down from a stiff breeze, and can’t stay off the injury list.
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
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By far? HAHAHAHAHAHA hell no and DMAC isnt as strong as Bush obviously but to say he never fights for yards is a damn lie….actually he tries to take on more contact than Bush….for a 245 lb back Bush doesnt bull over people as he should
August 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I hope Jerry Rice is not persona non-grata now in Alameda because he didn’t mention Al Davis at his induction speech.
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Damn that punk, I was hoping a sniper would take her out during that boring bumbling speech
August 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
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I think dude could bring a lot to the table if we can find a way to get the ball in his hands 15-20 times per game. I’d like to see about 15 carries and at least 5 receptions.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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Was there a football post I missed?
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Football will be on in a few hours……but for last 45 minutes or so I had fun kickin PEDO around likethe old days…..sure was fun but gotta go to a BBQ…..people gettin down onthe grill and the Tequila is flowing……YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
JUST WIN
August 8th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
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I think dude could bring a lot to the table if we can find a way to get the ball in his hands 15-20 times per game. I’d like to see about 15 carries and at least 5 receptions.
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That’s the Jheezy I know………BAUCE…..see ya….and PEDOchet no one wants to be ya LOL
August 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
It is common knowledge Joe Thomas was suggested by Al Davis…..too bad your agenda prevents you from admitting that….Joe Thomas done trades before with Al….NEXT
RICHO-I schooled you on that already. Part of the deal with the DeB’s getting the Niners was they asked Thomas BEFORE they even got the team if he would be GM. That’s because it’s a fact that Thomas had been attending DeBartelo family get togethers FOR OVER TEN YEARS. What part of that confuses you?
BTW…Joe Thomas sucked as a GM.
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I never backed off anything, I stand by what I say unlike you backtracker
RICHO-Save it..no one buys it. You diversion reply, because your takes get shredded. However, if you mean you are stubborn, and refuse to admit all the times you are wrong, well, yeah, that one you got right.
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Sorry a 49er site admitting the truth pretty much puts you to shame…..try again
RICHO-No, what’s SHAME IS THAT YOU DESPERATELY SEARCHED FOR INFO TO TRY AND BACK YOUR COMMENTS, and you found NONE.
you then went, according to you, onto a Niner site, and asked about Thomas, and someone apparently said “oh, ok, yeah, that was it”..AND NOW THAT IS YOUR SOURCE???
Seriously…IT’S LIKE SAYING MR IS A SOURCE BECAUSE HE POSTED THAT THE RAIDERS WERE GOING TO GO 5-11 AGAIN, and he posted it on a Raider site…see how silly your angle is?
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Eddie D gives me the willys? HAHAHA are you Italian? Because you sure you really offended, hey yo whoooooooaaa!
Richo-Actually, it’s the word MAFIA that gets you shaking in your booties, lol. Hey, your the one who gets so worked up about it, not me. I just think it’s funny…
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I crash inside of bzies and i burn their weed and money…………..try again PEDO
Richo=High praise, lol….in deed.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
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I think dude could bring a lot to the table if we can find a way to get the ball in his hands 15-20 times per game. I’d like to see about 15 carries and at least 5 receptions.
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That’s the Jheezy I know………BAUCE…..see ya….and PEDOchet no one wants to be ya LOL
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No, but you want to be just like me…and know that will never happen, Flea.
Be comfortable that when you stumble, I’ll be there to lift ya up.
It’s what I do
August 8th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I hope Jerry Rice is not persona non-grata now in Alameda because he didn’t mention Al Davis at his induction speech.
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That was surprising to me as well, Kelli..No mention of Al, and a single mention of Young and Montana, two HOF qb’s, who without them, he’s just a average receiver?
Gave more mention of his dancing with the stars ‘group’.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
DMAC is fast, but that’s about it
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I think dude could bring a lot to the table if we can find a way to get the ball in his hands 15-20 times per game. I’d like to see about 15 carries and at least 5 receptions.
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Unfortunately platooning RB’s rarely works..it did with a couple of teams last year, but I think both need to get their rhythm, which many RB’s feel, and that’s only by reps, and not the feeling their inserted to see “how I’m going to do now”
August 8th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
# Jerry still Hating on the ROG Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
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By far? HAHAHAHAHAHA hell no and DMAC isnt as strong as Bush obviously but to say he never fights for yards is a damn lie….actually he tries to take on more contact than Bush….for a 245 lb back Bush doesnt bull over people as he should
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Again, you’re confused. When you come back you can clear up why it is that DMAC’s universal knock is that he tends to go down the moment he’s touched, and that some believe he even anticipates the hits, and is already on the way down once he’s hit.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Rich,
I agree about Bush. People are making an issue of a single incident. Bush is the best back on the Roster IMHO.
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Was there a football post I missed?
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Referring to last year, where Bush had 3 consecutive carries, then took himself out for the following play to catch his breath.
Many refer to that as him not being tough enough to play full time, instead of the fact that he had the wind knocked out of him.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Had the wind knocked out of him?
I think that’s the first time I heard that.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Universal knock is overstating it a bit.
I’d say that propoganda gets thrown out there by a certain anti DMAC crowd.
August 8th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Mista can ya believe we have football tonight and then thursday we get our first look at the 2010 Raiders? Exciting times I tell ya cuz the A’s are 8.5 back and it will take a Boston Celtics type of collapse for us to win the West
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SHUT YOUR STUPID DUMB AZZ FACE UP!!! THAT WAS NO CELTIC COLLAPSE U MORON THAT WAS A LAKER SHOVE IT IN YOUR FACE 16 TIME WORLD CHAMPION LOCK DOWN DEFENSE!!! SHUT THAT STUPID GREEN TEAM UP LIKE UR MOUTH NEEDS TO BE!!! TOOK YOU ABOUT 3 WEEKS B4 U GOT BACK ON HERE AFTER U TALKED YOUR STUPIDNESS!! CELTICS IN SWEEP CELTICS IN 5… LMAO YOUR A FOOL
August 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
ive been out of the loop for a min but im back now… ill be there at that stupid space ship on thursday wathing first hand what we have… ill be paying close attention the the oline and our pursuit defense… thats a big key there… how well we can recover defensevly once the the offense gets past our front 7… big LB’s now should be able to stop the run but will they be able to to pursue the ball carriers effectively..
August 8th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Ive been shopping at Vellas store for years. The Fremont store , now closed, never had niner stuff, except for once. I asked the clerk, What the frig is this? She laughed and said its a special order for a relative that has lost her way. Bri-n is right!
August 8th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
We should run an offense simlar to Gruden’s in 98-2000.
August 8th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Raider O,not a bad idea,except JC has a stronger arm, I think they will spread the field a bit more! Raiders!!!! out for a beer run
August 8th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
# hendu Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Ive been shopping at Vellas store for years. The Fremont store , now closed, never had niner stuff, except for once. I asked the clerk, What the frig is this? She laughed and said its a special order for a relative that has lost her way. Bri-n is right!
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Kind of ridiculous to state that any outlet only had something ONCE, isn’t it?
I mean, did you go in every day? Don’t think so. Every WEEK? Highly unlikely..couple times a year maybe.
As others stated, they’ve walked in and have seen Niner gear.
Vella used to have lots of signings at his Castro Valley store, (Nap, Casper, Phil V I was at)and for two consecutive signings, he had the same Montana signed plaque there as you walked in..
Bree initially stated Villa NEVER sold anything Niners, then changed it to “only that”..not a big deal…except to Flea
August 8th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
30 year Raider…post 89! Agreed! It was the Lakers D that kept them in that game and when the O woke up…it was over…
On that note, we can win the West…but we need great play from all 3 sides of the ball!
August 8th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
this is OUR YEAR I CAN FEEL IT!!! THE COHESIVENESS OF THIS TEAM IS MUCH MORE THAN WHATS ON THE SURFACE!!!THERE IS SOME SUBSTANCE FINALLY TO WHAT WE ARE DOING !!THE LINEBACKERS OUR BIG REAL BIG.. I AM WORRIED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS once someone gets around the corner.. can we pursue that will be the big question for our defense… as for our O can we protect jason and create some running lanes…
August 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
post 94, Im sure villa may have sold much 9er stuff, but VELLA did NOT! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!! ps, In the Fremont store, now closed,cant speak to Castro Valley, that being said, Its Raider Image now,and still,Bri-n is correct in his point, period! My Opinion
August 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Run heavy, and pass to keep the Defense honest.
August 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Hendu,
Exactly. JC has a stronger arm than Gannon, so we can use that too.
Run Heavy Offense, Take shots down field, and a good defense can win the AFC west.
We Can Do It!!!!!!
RAIDERS!!!!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
# hendu Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
post 94, Im sure villa may have sold much 9er stuff, but VELLA did NOT! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!! ps, In the Fremont store, now closed,cant speak to Castro Valley, that being said, Its Raider Image now,and still,Bri-n is correct in his point, period! My Opinion
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Obviously you state you can’t speak for CV, but you follow it by saying Bree is correct? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOU DIDN’T GO TO CV??
Oh…almost forgot…PERIOD. MY OPINION.
August 8th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
We should all be GMs!! We know everything, we can solve problems, and we have great ideas!! lol
I love being a football fan, but even more being a Raiders Fan and part of the Only Nation on Earth!! The Raider Nation!!
Attack & Destroy!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Rich,
Bush was considered a top 10 pick in the 2007 draft before he broke his leg. I don’t think OUR TEAM is using him correctly. He needs to have more carries per game. Look at the TB game, and that will prove out point. He needs more carries!
August 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Later Gents!
August 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Raider O, got youre point now. Nap is Mac and Wheatly is Bush, move the chains,etc ok,Do you agree that JC will depend on Miller,more so than dhb,lm,chaz ,etc at least early on? I think they may surprise teams with this offense,and the defense, O,I hope it can be Bear85 at some point THIS year!Thats my hope,that the RAIDERS get back to TATUM smash mouth football!
August 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
‘Sup fellas?
Raider O,Rich-O how’s everybody doin?
Hope we got that Vella store debate squared away.
All I know is I hope nobody has the audacity to try and shoplift in one of em. Because as Phil V says in the America’s game..you don’t want to make Happy Fella John Vella mad. He WILL rip your frickin’ head off.
Only a couple of hours till the 2010 season kicks off, fellas.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
post100, thanks Peanut,fyo!
August 8th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Besides you and maybe 3 other tools who gives a fk about Jerry Rice ?
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KoolKell Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I hope Jerry Rice is not persona non-grata now in Alameda because he didn’t mention Al Davis at his induction speech.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Preseason obviously.
Does anybody scrimmage anymore? The Raiders used to scrimmage the Cowboys when they were in LA. They’d get in some good scrapes. Haven’t seen any highlights of any teams practicing against each other this year.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I thought Schilens broke his foot against the 49ers in a scrimmage last year.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
WHATS UP OHIO ST BUCKEYE!!!!! yyyyyaaaaaaaa FOOTBALL IS HERE!!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Buckeyeraider, The Raiders have at times had Richochets team in for a scrimmage, the niners,and as you mentioned, the Cowboys. Not sure why they havent this year, probably cuz we play Richochets team in reg season game.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
I wish the Raiders would’ve practiced with the niners again. After all the shyt SF was talkin last year. Like to shut their pieholes.
I guess they’ll get a chance later this year.
Those two teams just do not like each other. I guess you guys know that moreso than me, most of you live right there at ground zero.
But damn, some of their preseason games have almost playoff-like intensity.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Does anybody scrimmage anymore? The Raiders used to scrimmage the Cowboys when they were in LA. They’d get in some good scrapes. Haven’t seen any highlights of any teams practicing against each other this year.
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GOOD QUESTION IDK… I KNOW THAT THE COWGIRLZ AND THE TEXANS DID SOME LAST YEAR.. I DONT KNOW IF WERE GONNA GET IT ON WITH DALLAS AGAIN..
August 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
‘Sup 30 Yr.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
D OHIO ST BUCKEYES will be good this year… could be your year!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
who the hell is joe porter?
August 8th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
We could just get back into Jerry Rice, but these other posts are a lot fun!
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