Holland no longer on the roster
By Jon Becker
Sunday, August 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Wide receiver and kick returner Jonathan Holland is no longer an Oakland Raider. Although the Raiders haven’t yet clarified what the move was, Holland’s spot on the roster has been taken by quarterback Colt Brennan, who was signed Saturday.
Holland, who was last seen on crutches after suffering an ankle injury during camp, was awaiting results of an MRI on his ankle.
The Raiders’ 2007 seventh-round choice never caught a regular-season pass. He returned 29 kicks last season.
NOTE: There will be no in-practice updates from Jerry McDonald. Jerry, though, will have a complete practice report later this evening.
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August 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
aw darn, hes a scrub. seems like a good guy though hope he lands somewhere
August 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
2nd
August 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
# hendu Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Buckeyeraider, The Raiders have at times had Richochets team in for a scrimmage, the niners,and as you mentioned, the Cowboys. Not sure why they havent this year, probably cuz we play Richochets team in reg season game.
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Oh now how precious are you? lol
What’s the matter? Your silly post gets slammed, and now you’re begging for my attention?
Beg some more..this time with feeling.
August 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Holland sucked. Watkins should be next to go..
The end
August 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
post 3,one doesnt have to write a book to get a point across,right peanut? So nut, how are youre whiners goin do for ya this year? Perhaps a bet would be ideal, RAIDERS VS whiners, what do you think,Walnut? Raiders!!!!!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Peanut, have a wonderful work week, see Ya! ps Bri-n is right!!!!! out!
August 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Anxious to see if and how much T.O. plays tonight.
Never been a big fan of the guy or anything. It’s water under the bridge now, but I kinda wish Al would’ve signed him. I agree with Jerry, it was almost a no lose situation.
At best, the guy is a self promoting goofball. At worst, a team chemistry killing, locker room cancer.
But, I think that was earlier in his career. I think the guy has grown up a little. He handled his exile to NFL Siberia without incident.
If the atmoshere in Oakland is indeed changing and the Raiders are competitive, I think TO would’ve bought right in. I think he would’ve welcomed the opportunity to make a successful return to the Bay area.
The Raiders have the speed to stretch the field. T.O. could’ve done the dirty work underneath. Given Campbell a big target underneath. I think maybe it was a missed opportunity, especially with Chaz’s injury concerns.
Oh well.
August 8th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Roll call: no gradkowski, Hubbard, McFadden, Daniels, zach miller and richardson
2 minutes ago via
August 8th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
One guy I want to keep an eye out for this preseason is the second year TE out of Iowa..Meyers. I thought he looked promising last preseason. I think it was against those samr niners. He was making plays all over the field. Some really nice catches.
The only action I remember him gettin in on during the season was, albeit a big one, was the play against the Bungles. Causing and recovering that late fumble on special teams. Don’t remember any snaps w/ the O.
The guy came out of the Big Ten with the rep of being a good blocker. Looks like he can catch too. Hopefully he steps up this preseason and pushes Tony Stewart. He and Miller would make a nice set of TE’s. Seems like Jerry hasn’t mentioned him much. Except for the scrape w/ everybody’s favorite nasty boy, Lamarr Houston.
August 8th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
VittorioTafur – Campbell throws beautiful rainbow deep but Schilens does not change gears and get it – probably still going a little easy on foot.
VittorioTafur – A lot of drops by receivers today; as for Schilens I think his timing is off as he’s still pulling back a little.
At what point do the Raiders need to consider cutting Schilens due to the fact he just cannot stay healthy enough to play and also have some chemistry with the offense? I love his skills and playmaking ability, but I’m just saying…
August 8th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Steve,
No way do I see them severing ties w/Chaz any time soon. The guy has looked very good, when he’s played. As a seventh rd pick he probably isn’t making that much money. If he can’t play, they’d probably stash him on IR and give him another year to try and get the foot fully healed.
I’m really pulling for this dude. He looks like a steal, if he can stay healthy. A big IF at this point.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Tommy Kelly abused by Veldheer on play; he has not shown well so far at camp
less than 10 seconds
August 8th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Im not 100% sold on Schilens. Our WR unit has been such garbage he was able to standout so its hard to say how good he is, add his injuries on top and who knows~! Put him on NO or Dallas does he even make their 53 man roster?
August 8th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
At this point Murphy has a lot more potential than Schilens and if DHB gets off to a nice start id throw him into the same category. If JLH shakes off those hits Russell set him up for and J Ford comes up BIG Schilens cant hit the road!
August 8th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
can*
August 8th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Batman and Robin. What a couple of clowns. The ambigously gay duo….SNL..
Tough call Mista. His body of work is so limited. I just remember those last two games of ‘08, when Oak’s passing game actually looked competant. Buerlein did that Houston game and at the beginning was like Starting WR’s are who? But Schillens and JLH both played very well. Ditto the following week vs TB.
Obviously missed almost all of last year, but looked really good in finale vs. Balt. Was making some tough catches. Needs to stay healthy though.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Did they just say W Philips lost weight on Nutri System? LMAO I couldn’t tell.
C Johnson & TO are two mental patients that deserve each other. I hope they go up in flames.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
I’m still excited to see if Nick Miller can stay healthy and contribute. It seems every day that Vic and/or Jerry are always tweeting about a great catch Nick makes in practice. He would quickly become a fan favorite if he could come up with those catches in a game.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Tommy Kelly is an enormous waste of money and roster space. At some point the Raiders should give Dez Bryant a crack at Kelly’s position. At least Bryant is a young player with upside.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
personally…I don’t think Kelly makes it out of camp this year…
August 8th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
N Miller stayed on the roster last year and dint play a single down! He better have some serious skills we dont know about!
August 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
T Kelly = T Sands
August 8th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I’d like to see Schilens contribute, but there are just some players that can never shake the injury bug. If he ever does, he could be a great one.
Patrick Crayton looking good in the HOF game. I still think we should make a move for him. Although as long as Dez Bryant (the Cowboys one) is out with an injury, the Cowboys might be hesitant to move Crayton.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I wouldn’t mind if the Raiders gave the Cowboys a late round pick for Crayton. It would definitely make it easier to cut ties with Band Aid boy Schilens…
August 8th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
From the camp updates it seems like Joe Porter keeps making plays. We picked him up off Green Bay’s practice squad, it would be awesome if he ends up being a contributor. Even if it’s just CB depth behind Routt and McFadden. Someone is bound to go down at some point this season…
August 8th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
From the camp updates it seems like Joe Porter keeps making plays. We picked him up off Green Bay’s practice squad, it would be awesome if he ends up being a contributor. Even if it’s just CB depth behind Routt and McFadden. Someone is bound to go down at some point this season…
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It will come down to who is the better player on special teams…
August 8th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I doubt they’d cut ties with Schilens this season because as a 7th rounder he’s not making much money at all. But Nick Miller, Jacoby Ford, JLH and Yamon Figurs are all very similar players, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of those guys not make the roster.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Haven’t seen Jeremy Ware’s name pop up at all, outside of that one rough practice the rookie CBs had. Here again, the press doesn’t have the best view of the field, but he might be practice squad fodder at best.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
I think the Raiders will keep 6 WR: DHB, Schilens, Murphy, JLH, Ford, and either Miller or Watkins for the last spot. Figurs and the rest of the camp bodies will have a hard time making it.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
If this is finally the year that Watkins doesn’t make the team, that’ll probably be a good sign for the rest of our receiving corps.
I’d like to see Patrick Crayton in there instead of Nick Miller, but hey, if Miller can really play I won’t complain.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I’d love to see our running backs corps look like this:
RBs:
Bush
McFadden
and trade for Marshawn Lynch
FBs:
Daniels or Tonga
Marcel Reece (H-back on passing downs?)
August 8th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
not having to carry Watkins as the extra WR last year due to the Schilens and Miller injuries enables us to keep an extra DB or LB for special teams which makes them better.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
If this is finally the year that Watkins doesn’t make the team, that’ll probably be a good sign for the rest of our receiving corps.
I’d like to see Patrick Crayton in there instead of Nick Miller, but hey, if Miller can really play I won’t complain.
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Would have been a possibility, now that bryant s injured he moe=ve to the number 3.
August 8th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
moves to no. 3
August 8th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Word, at the very least the Cowboys would want a higher draft pick for him, which might not be worth it.
Marshawn Lynch is still being dangled out there, though…
August 8th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
A higher draft pick than they would have originally asked for, I should say.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Hendu,
I agree. I think Miller will be he fav target.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Does this mean that Jason Campbell will get his #17?
August 8th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Our WRs:
Chaz: can he stay healthy?
Murphy: still developing
DHB: still developing
JLH: had a bad season last year
Ford: Rookie
N Miller: UDRFA who hasn’t done anything in a EEG seasn game. Unkown!
Watkins: he doesn’t do much, and should be cut
August 8th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
“After sex scandals rocked their college careers, two Oakland hopefuls look for “Raider Redemption”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
August 8th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I hope Daniels works out and that Lamarr can be a fridge type goal line guy.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Our WRs:
Chaz: can he stay healthy?
Murphy: still developing
DHB: still developing
JLH: had a bad season last year
Ford: Rookie
N Miller: UDRFA who hasn’t done anything in a EEG seasn game. Unkown!
Watkins: he doesn’t do much, and should be cut
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thats a fair eval of those players. I would like to see if Al could somehow pry Vincent Jackson from SD. Al loves players that would be extra motivated to perform against their old team that wouldn’t pay them.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
thats a fair eval of those players. I would like to see if Al could somehow pry Vincent Jackson from SD. Al loves players that would be extra motivated to perform against their old team that wouldn’t pay them.
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Word. I don’t know how it would get done, but I’d love to see VJ in silver and black. He’s 6′5 and can run, which Big Al’s gotta love.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Tafur says Brennan looks much smaller than his listed 6′3. The guy might get killed next week behind our 3rd string line.
Chaz is staying no matter because of his contract. Jeremy Ware might make more than him. Worst case for Chaz is IR.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Geno Atkins is looking pretty good for the Bungles tonight. I wanted to draft Iupati this year. Atkins gave him fits at the Senior bowl. Guy looks like a quick inside penetrator ala Sapp.
Not liking what is being reported about T Kelly at all. Guy is getting paidbig bucks, and needs to step it up.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
The reality is that we only have a 7th Rd. pick invested in this guy. He is only a WR with potential who now has a history of getting injured by tripping over the lines on a football field. Most 7th Rd. picks are a reach to make a NFL team anyways. Upside will only take you so far…
August 8th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
As good as this draft was, I’ll never understand passing on NT Cam Thomas so many times…
August 8th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
T Kelly is done unfortunately.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
personally…I don’t think Kelly makes it out of camp this year…
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Really?
Who steps up and takes his place?
I assume you’ll go with Seymour, Henderson, and Bryant?
Who’d #4?
Heard is out, hasn’t been heard from.
Is it William Joseph finally living up to his 1st rd pick potential.
Chris Cooper?
I think Kelly makes the 53 man roster.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
As good as this draft was, I’ll never understand passing on NT Cam Thomas so many times…
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Because as soon as we drafted Houston, that enables us to move Seymour inside which is a way better option. The has to be a reason Thomas fell as far as he did. He will wind up starting for the Chargers only because there is no one there but him. He are gonna abuse him the regular season.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
How about looking at it a different way ????
Maybe Veldheer has some skills?
August 8th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Chaz is NOT getting cut.
What is he making, 100k?
No big deal.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Pretty typical first preseason game. Very sloppy.
That 3rd string TE for Dallas looks good, though. Kinda like Meyers did for Oak last preseason.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I am rooting for Veldheer to take the center job from Satele. The coaching staff is now realizing what Parcells knew in Miami…that Satele can’t handle a NT by himself. It would be sweet to see Veldheer pancake Cam Thomas…
August 8th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Because as soon as we drafted Houston, that enables us to move Seymour inside which is a way better option. The has to be a reason Thomas fell as far as he did. He will wind up starting for the Chargers only because there is no one there but him. He are gonna abuse him the regular season.
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But Seymour doesn’t play the nose. Kelly does. Kelly has shown exactly nothing since he got paid, and with all the other high-dollar, do-nothing players getting the ax in the offseason, it surprises me that Kelly is still around. Plus Thomas would have been a steal in the 5th round.
The Chargers had veteran Ian Scott when the season began, and after getting a look at what Thomas can do Scott was cut. Even Ian Scott might be better than Tommy Kelly…
August 8th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Hi there. Just wanted to check in and get a taste of Raider fans and info about the team and the upcoming season.
I’m a new fan from Hawaii and one of Colt Brennan’s many adopted “aunties” who loves football and is not shy about cheering on Sundays!
August 8th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Veldheer is a really intriguing option at center, especially in a 3-4 heavy division. But he has to learn the playbook first. The center has to be the smartest guy on the offensive line, and Veldheer is coming from a small school. He’s only had limited exposure to a pro-style offensive scheme. He might eventually take the center job from Satele, but it won’t be this season.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Hello Liz! Don’t let the psychos here scare you off.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Chaz is NOT getting cut.
What is he making, 100k?
No big deal.
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it’s not about the money, the roster spot is the real value. It cripples teams when they have to carry injured players on the active 53. I’m just curious how long Schilens will be on scholarship?
August 8th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
If Sam Williams has stuck for as long as he has, I’d say Schilens is safe for a while.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Vegas,
What would you think about your Giants making a move for ex-Red Adam Dunn? Washington put him on waivers. BSPN radio said SF was one team that might be interested.
Guy could probably hit a baseball outta the Grand Canyon. Strikes out a ton, and is a big lumbering oaf in the field. Might be best as a DH, in fact.
You said awhile back they need another stick. Might be an option.
August 8th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I don’t see how a 7th rd pick is on scholarship.
And a guy that has been described as our best receiver should not be on the cut line so quickly.
A bit premature, IMO.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I don’t see how a 7th rd pick is on scholarship.
And a guy that has been described as our best receiver should not be on the cut line so quickly.
A bit premature, IMO.
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Definitely. The fact that when he’s healthy he produces more than any other receiver on the Raiders roster certainly counts for something.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I have played the offensive line in my younger days and was on teams that had the guard making the calls. I don’t think it has to be the center who makes the call, but the smartest lineman. I find it hard to believe that Gallery or Carlisle aren’t just as smart as Satele is. Hell, if I was the coach, every lineman would know everyone’s job. The lineman who actually makes the call would be just verifying what everyone already knew…
August 8th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
dallas vs raiders pre-season game a superbowl preview
August 8th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
So TK gets handled by Looper during one drill during the first week of practice and he should be benched in favor of Henderson.
Gets handled by Veldheer on one play during week 2 of practice, and he won’t make it out of camp.
Interesting.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Aloha Liz…I am a life long fan from Hawaii that now lives in California and season tix holder for the Raiders! I was happy when I heard Colt signed with the S&B!!! I wish him luck to make the team!!!
August 8th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
August 8th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Vegas,
What would you think about your Giants making a move for ex-Red Adam Dunn? Washington put him on waivers. BSPN radio said SF was one team that might be interested.
Guy could probably hit a baseball outta the Grand Canyon. Strikes out a ton, and is a big lumbering oaf in the field. Might be best as a DH, in fact.
You said awhile back they need another stick. Might be an option.
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I would like to see Billy Beane go and get him. The A’s need some pop in the lineup. He would have be an upgrade over Jack Cust…LOL.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
TK will not be cut because Al gave him the big money. However, TK has not been the same player since his injury and contract. TK was showing promise prior to the injury.
Anyone who thinks Chaz and TK are going to get cut is just crazy.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Wiggle and YA,
That’s just the way it is nowadays. I’m not pointing fingers at anyone on here. Just society in general. It’s a microwave society. Instant gratification. 24 hr news and internet. 30 second attention spans.
Nobody has patience for somebody to recover from an injury marred season, or heaven forbids, take a year or two to develop.
DMAC,DHB..doesn’t matter…He sucks! He’s a bum! get em the hell outta here! Somebody actually advocated putting DHB on waivers….halfway through his rookie season. Crazy.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Maybe it’s time for Schilens to take Nick Miler’s non-IR position. Sounds as though Nick Miller may have returned in great form. I’d love to see him, through performance, put down all the nay-sayers.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
But Seymour doesn’t play the nose. Kelly does. Kelly has shown exactly nothing since he got paid, and with all the other high-dollar, do-nothing players getting the ax in the offseason, it surprises me that Kelly is still around. Plus Thomas would have been a steal in the 5th round.
The Chargers had veteran Ian Scott when the season began, and after getting a look at what Thomas can do Scott was cut. Even Ian Scott might be better than Tommy Kelly…
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So Cam Thomas the guy who slid all the way to the 5th rd is better than TK?
Ian Scott ????
You shouldn’t let his contract cloud you vision. I’m sure if the coaches thought Cam Thomas was a better fit for our defense, they would have taken him and but Kelly when the cut Warren?
August 8th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
TK will not be cut because Al gave him the big money. However, TK has not been the same player since his injury and contract. TK was showing promise prior to the injury.
Anyone who thinks Chaz and TK are going to get cut is just crazy.
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Bingo!
August 8th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I have played the offensive line in my younger days and was on teams that had the guard making the calls. I don’t think it has to be the center who makes the call, but the smartest lineman. I find it hard to believe that Gallery or Carlisle aren’t just as smart as Satele is. Hell, if I was the coach, every lineman would know everyone’s job. The lineman who actually makes the call would be just verifying what everyone already knew…
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Well, I would argue that Satele is a mediocre center in a lot of ways. Maybe it’s just because it was his first season in this scheme, but he didn’t perform well at all. Morris held him off when he wasn’t even injured.
While any of the offensive lineman can certainly make calls, it definitely helps if the guy who does it is also the guy snapping the ball to the QB.
And I know what you mean about every lineman knowing every other lineman’s job. Ideally it should be like that. But when you’re working with a bunch of mediocre players (which outside of Gallery, the Raiders are), I think the focus is on just getting them to do their own jobs well enough to get by.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
So Cam Thomas the guy who slid all the way to the 5th rd is better than TK?
Ian Scott ????
You shouldn’t let his contract cloud you vision. I’m sure if the coaches thought Cam Thomas was a better fit for our defense, they would have taken him and but Kelly when the cut Warren?
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Maybe, maybe not. At least he still has a lot of untapped potential. I would argue that TK has already hit his ceiling, and even that was years ago and he hasn’t been anywhere close since.
Maybe playing next to Richard Seymour will help him turn it around. I hope so, because even if Kelly turns into an average DT it’ll help the Raiders out a whole lot.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I would argue that TK has already hit his ceiling, and even that was years ago and he hasn’t been anywhere close since.
Maybe playing next to Richard Seymour will help him turn it around. I hope so, because even if Kelly turns into an average DT it’ll help the Raiders out a whole lot.
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R U serious?
Statistically, TK was one of the top 10 DTs in the league.
You don’t even think he is average?
August 8th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
What statistics are you using to peg him as a top ten DT?
He gets stood up at the line frequently, and has poor gap discipline.
The thing about stats is that sometimes they lie. Statistically, Kirk Morrison was a solid player, too.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Congrats to Dick Lebeau. Probably long overdue.
Must have good genes. Dude doesn’t look 73. Could probably pass for 53.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I couldn’t believe it when I found out that dude was 73. Unreal.
Easily one of the best D-coordinators in league history. Not such a great HC, but we’ll let that one slide…
August 8th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
To top it off that dude LeBeau supposedly shoots his age in golf. That is so unfair.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
We’re stuck with TK so all I want for him is to be avg. That should be good enough for us this year since we added depth there.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Wise man once said there are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
However, I think TK has generally been an underrated player. I think he takes so much flak because of his contract. He was the beneficiary of one of Al’s wild spending sprees of late. Based on what he is being paid, he should be more dominant.
Sapp once said the guy has more talent than he ever had. I think, like alot of those big DT’s his motor runs hot and cold. Something caused him to go undrafted.
Don’t like what I’m hearing outta camp, though. Worrisome. Shouldn’t be getting manhandled by camp fodder.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
We’re stuck with TK so all I want for him is to be avg. That should be good enough for us this year since we added depth there.
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Yeah, Henderson obviously isn’t going to be a starter, so Kelly is going to stick this season. If all he does is occupy the blockers he’s assigned, the Raiders defensive will be much improved.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
*Not Veldheer. The other guy. Yesterday. Can’t think of his name.
3rd rd pick hopefully not camp fodder.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
J Wiggle
why bother man? we go through this crap every year with the same lames man. Thye just don’t think anybody is good enough for that positiion except who they want. It is what it is, let ‘em whine.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
loper
August 8th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Pain Mcclain and an offense that can occasionally convert a 3rd and 8 will do much more for our run d than some 5th round NT.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Thanks AIG.
On the flip side, like hearing about my boy Bruce Campbell holding his own in a blocking drill vs. Big Bad John Henderson. Hope Henderson has something in the tank, though. Liked that signing and hope he helps shore up run D and short yardage.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Tommy Kelly has to be ready to play great on 9/12/10 until then just get ready.
August 8th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Vegas,
As Jordan Palmer eats more turf, can’t help but laugh about your comment on slender Colt Brennan. Yikes. Hope the Raiders 3rd string line looks better than Cincy’s.
August 8th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Pain Mcclain and an offense that can occasionally convert a 3rd and 8 will do much more for our run d than some 5th round NT.
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Well I would certainly hope so. McClain was a first-round pick for a reason. And of course, you’re right about our offense on third and long.
But it’s pretty clear the defensive line has room for improvement. Lamarr Houston is going to be a big part of that. But Richard Seymour isn’t getting any younger, and if his play drops off and Tommy Kelly ends up being the best interior lineman on the team, the Raiders are not in great shape.
August 8th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
All that said, I’m hoping Kelly can end up being the player Big Al paid him to be. We’ll see if that happens this season.
Personally, I think getting some more young interior linemen through the draft isn’t such a bad idea.
August 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
man i cant wait for the season to start….
RAIDER NATION BABY!
August 8th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
YA
My god man they got some young interior lineman named Des Bryant,Lamarr Houston and this kid Hearne and some I didn’t name. The Dline is better than it’s been in years. What is it your worried about? jesus!!
They also rebiult the entire LBing corp what the hell else do you want?
August 8th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
There is only 1 player in the entire front7 from 2 years ago and still it aint enough.?!! what else?
August 8th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
It’s likely that Heard won’t even make the team. He’s a converted offensive tackle, and an undrafted free agent signing.
Bryant hasn’t seen a lot of action. He’s behind Seymour, Kelly, and Henderson on the depth chart. And if it ever comes down to him and Tommy Kelly on the offensive line… well, we went down that road last season. Did you like what you saw?
The linebackers are definitely going to do much better this season. But they need a defensive line capable of occupying blockers.
I like Houston and Shaughnessy at defensive end. Seymour is obviously a solid player, but is an aging veteran. Assuming that Desmond Bryant can eventually take over for Seymour and be even half the player Seymour was (which is a pretty huge assumption, as Bryant is another UDFA), he’s going to have to play next to someone. Maybe Houston and McClain have a ripple effect on the rest of the defensive line… maybe. But eventually the Raiders are going to have to dedicate some draft picks to legitimate interior line prospects. Lest we hinge our hopes on an aging vet and UDFA scrubs…
August 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I’m not even saying that the defensive line is going to be bad next season. I think the Raider defense is going to surprise a lot of people. But at some point you have to think long-term.
The fact is, Tommy Kelly isn’t living up to the contract, and best case scenario, Richard Seymour has a few solid years left in the tank.
August 8th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
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August 8th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Of course the bigger news story is that the raiders did not sign Mr. J. Otis to be our backup QB to the back up Qbs during training camp and the first couple of preseason games.
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