D-line steals the show
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some observations from the Raiders’ 17-9 over the Dallas Cowboys to to consider or disregard:
– Impressive showing from the Raiders defensive line, with the only downside being if they can get this much natural pressure, someone will think it’s a good idea for John Marshall to scrap any ideas of blitzing and moving Nnamdi Asomugha creatively and let the front four handle everything.
– Like the idea of having Lamarr Houston back in the game at the end, getting a feel of what it’s like to close out a pseudo-game in the NFL. Hard to imagine Houston and Matt Shaughnessy being any more impressive considering their experience level.
– If the Raiders had made Hue Jackson available at some point in the last 200 days, it would have been all hearts and flowers. Now everyone will want to know what’s wrong with his offense.
– Would have been nice for Darrius Heyward-Bey to get a catch or two to demonstrate his offseason progress isn’t a mirage.
– Two of the late heroes of the Raiders win were running back Michael Bennett (68 yards, 12 carries, one catch for 33 yards) and safety Jerome Boyd, and there’s a chance neither of them will be around when the season opens in Tennessee. Rock Cartwright is at present the No. 1 kickoff return specialist and plays on other special teams as well. Boyd’s touchdown was a essentially a gift and seventh-round draft pick Stevie Brown, as well as Hiram Eugene, are more likely to stick on the final 53 along with Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff and Mike Mitchell.
– Yes, the Cowboys had already played a game _ supposedly an advantage. They played it on Sunday in Canton, meaning they had a day off and a couple of light practices before playing again. Let’s not overplay their competitive edge.
– Can the Raiders keep both Ricky Brown and Travis Goethel? Both played well. Quinton Groves had his moments as well. The three starters _ Kamerion Wimbley, Rolando McClain and Trevor Scott _ are etched in stone in terms of the 53-man roster, health permitting. Then there’s Thomas Howard, a starter for three -plus years. A nice problem to have.
– I don’t understand field goal attempts with established kickers in the preseason. Why bother on a play with a 99 percent success rate when you can find out something about players you’re not sure about in a game-type situation on fourth down? Oakland’s field goal attempt with Swayze Waters was a waste of time.
– If stopping the run is an attitude to be displayed at all times, giving up 66 yards on 22 carries was a good start for the Oakland defense.
– Nice catch by Nick Miller and Johnnie Lee Higgins and Yamon Figurs did some good things, but keep in mind we still haven’t seen Chaz Schilens or Jacoby Ford. There’s a long way to go at wide receiver.
– Penciling Jared Veldheer and Bruce Campbell into the starting lineup on the basis of handling some tired Dallas scrubs is a bit of a reach, but it’s nice to dream of some young blood ready to help right away.
– You wonder if Colt Brennan will get a chance to take a snap in a Raiders uniform. If Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye get back on the field this week, he could be UFL bound within a couple of weeks. Kyle Boller’s numbers (12 of 21, 148 yards, 1 TD, 94.9 passer rating) were good, but he got lucky when the Cowboys dropped an easy interception in the red zone. Had the Cowboys held the ball, the perception of his game would be much different.
– The Raiders were 2-for-12 on third down, and the first look at the Jason Campbell offense wasn’t encouraging. No turnovers, though _ and that alone makes it an upgrade from you-know-who. If Oakland can approach its 4.4 yards per carry average against the Cowboys consistently, the passing game should come along eventually. Campbell told reporters afterward the Raiders hadn’t gone deep into their playbook and were keeping it simple.
(JaMarcus Russell, by the way, told ESPN he’d turned up positive for codeine in 2007 after being selected by the Raiders with the No. 1 overall pick but said he doesn’t have a drug problem. Guess that rules out the Raiders being oblivous to Russell’s problems).
– Coach Tom Cable said linebacker Sam Williams sustained a concussion and Walter McFadden had a shoulder injury (although he returned to the game after leaving). Kicker Swayze Waters had a calf strain.
– Friday is a player’s day off, with practice resuming Friday. Coach Tom Cable is scheduled to be available to reporters by conference call Friday evening.
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August 12th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Is Dmac healthy yet?
August 12th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
2nd
August 12th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
The time has come! It is now LAMAR time in Dallas!
Houston #99 ROY! Bet
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August 12th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Pito
August 12th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I love how Russell is trying to pin his drug problem on the Raiders now. Dude hasn’t changed, still trying to dodge responsibility for his actions. What a douche!
August 12th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
The only thing I don’t like about Lamar Houston is his #99.
The #99 reminds me of big mouth/soft belly Sapp!
August 12th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
#7 !
August 12th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
The rebirth of DHB is still apparently TBD. Raiders receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey followed up what looked like a breakout couple of weeks at training camp with a preseason debut that looked a lot like a rerun of last season.
Heyward-Bey dropped the first pass of the game from Jason Campbell and wasn’t heard from again in Oakland’s 17-9 win over Dallas at Cowboys Stadium. As for Campbell, he fared OK in his debut after being acquired from Washington in April. He finished 7-for-13 for 49 yards, playing almost a quarter and a half.
The Raiders won the game thanks to backup running backs Michael Bennett and Rock Cartwright. Bennett’s 33-yard catch-and-run set up Sebastian Janikowski’s 28-yard field goal with 2:24 left in the fourth quarter.
Jerome Boyd iced the win with a 48-yard interception return with 33 seconds left.
Three of Campbell’s passes were complete to tight end Zach Miller for 15 yards, and while Louis Murphy had one reception for 14 yards, he did have a chance on two deep balls from Campbell. The first one, on the right side, Murphy got his hands on before colliding with defenders. On the second, down the left side, Murphy caught it but was out of bounds.
Campbell also completed passes to Todd Watkins, Michael Bush, and Marcel Reece, but didn’t look Heyward-Bey’s way again after the first drop.
Heyward-Bey, the team’s first-round pick last year, had only nine catches but worked hard this offseason and looked more confident and more explosive as he attacked balls and caught them with his hands instead of waiting for them to hit his chest. But the game-film evidence of a new Heyward-Bey will have to wait until at least next week.
Campbell was only supposed to play one quarter, but came back for the first series of the second quarter because coach Tom Cable wanted better results than he had seen so far. And Campbell responded with his best drive of the night.
Bush had two carries for 10 yards and then Campbell hit Murphy for 14 yards to get the Raiders to the 46-yard line. Bush, who finished with 31 yards on seven carries in Darren McFadden’s absence (hamstring), put his head down for another 5 yards and Campbell found a stumbling Todd Watkins for 10 yards.
That’s where the drive stalled, as Miller couldn’t quite reach for the first-down marker on 3rd-and-5. Oakland went for it on 4th-and-1 from the Cowboys’ 30-yard line – which was a good decision considering no one wanted to see an obvious and pointless field goal at that point.
What may have been a bad decision, though, was the call new offensive coordinator Hue Jackson came up with. He supposedly leans toward power football, but here he lined up four receivers and also had Cartwright go out for a pass. Campbell missed Miller high and the Raiders came up empty.
After a slow start, quarterback Kyle Boller led Oakland on a 13-play, 80-yard drive midway through the fourth quarter. Cartwright took a short pass 25 yards and Bennett scampered for 14 to get the Raiders past midfield. Boller hit Yamon Figurs for 18 and 7 yards, and Cartwright for eight more to set up and 4th-and-1 at the 7-yard line.
Boller got the first down and two plays later apparently found Nick Miller on a nice-play action lob for a touchdown. The play was ruled incomplete, the Raiders challenged and the officials showed they don’t hate Oakland after all by reversing the call to make it 9-7.
Colt Brennan was expected to close the game out with backup quarterbacks Bruce Gradkowski (groin) and Charlies Frye (wrist) out, but Cable went with Boller.
Vitt
August 12th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Maybe Houston can erase any memory of anybody else who wore #99
August 12th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
“If the Cowboys would have held the pick the game would have been much different”? Yes and if the Raiders recover a couple of those fumbles in scoring position it could have been another game all together, who cares. Thats how games are won and lost, plays made or not made.
Lets just say there was lots to like and lots that needs worked on but man handling the Cowboys 1’s in the trenches was nice to see.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
I like this defense. Just as long as Chris Johnson quits giving up plays on 3rd and long. C’mon dude! Ya gotta know they’re coming your way…
August 12th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Maybe Houston can erase any memory of anybody else who wore #99
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The best to wear 99 was Dan Hampton, NOT Sappy!
August 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I miss Warren Sapp. Hopefully we have a few Warrens on the team. Somebody has to speak truth to power. We’ll find out by week 8, when we’re out of playoff contention. Usually that’s when the real men speak up.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Of course the Raiders knew of Russell’s drug use. Come on. That’s obvious to everyone except for Al’s supporters. Then again, the fact that Al’s lost it is obvious to everyone except them, as well.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Jerry
No matter how hard you try to put on damper on this it was a very good showing for the Raiders tonight. It’s not like they were going against the Chiefs sorry defense in Oakland this is was one of the top 2-3 teams in this league at home and the Raiders shut them out………..period
Our offense has a long way to go and Campbell looked good IMO nt just because he didn’t turn it over but because he was on time with his throws and he gave his players a chance to make plays. I see why Mr Davis likes this kid he has great pocket presence he’s decisive and exudes confidence. He’s a leader and you can just see it forget the stats. They will manifest themselves because he will throw completions……. a lot of them. Kid throws a great ball easy to catch.
Our front7 looks like it might be in the top 5 in the league, I guess you and your cohorts who pronounced Mr Davis dead a long time ago were a bit hasty.
This young team he’s built is very talented, it showed bigtime tonight so you might as well admit the fact that he hasn’t gotten a GM and was able to get this done smashes egg all over your face you and Monte Foole.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I see why Mr Davis likes this kid he has great pocket presence he’s decisive and exudes confidence.
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Yeh, you could see that. His confidence was definitely rubbing off on Lechler.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I miss Warren Sapp. Hopefully we have a few Warrens on the team. Somebody has to speak truth to power. We’ll find out by week 8, when we’re out of playoff contention. Usually that’s when the real men speak up.
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I am not down with players who “speak”! They are paid to play, NOT flap thier dang GUMS! Sappy was only good for that during his time with the RAIDERS! TALK TALK TALK! I say SOFT SOFT SOFT! Twinkie SOFT! No run D, very little PASS rush, especially when it mattered!
August 12th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I miss Warren Sapp.
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I’m sure he misses you too. Well, parts at least.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
DHB didn’t drop that pass the writer is an idiot that pas was broken up by the DB. Do these guy’s watch football? or know it?
August 12th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Bjbrown1968 Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I love how Russell is trying to pin his drug problem on the Raiders now. Dude hasn’t changed, still trying to dodge responsibility for his actions. What a douche!
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The Raiders themselves said it best:
“did all they could to intervene and assist with a myriad of issues with JaMarcus Russell.”
That clown has issues galore. He needs therapy. Oh, and send him back to school too. The ESPN interviewer had to interpret for the tv audience and summarize what he said, every time after he spoke. What a joke.
August 12th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Hey, I’m optimistic too but I have to LMAO @ Priest calling anyone “a bit hasty.”
August 12th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Overall, I saw Character from the Raiders tonight. The D-Line was manly.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
One thing’s for sure…Jason C knows what to do in the face of pressure. Nothing spectacular about our 1st team offense but nothing horrible either. The O-line doesn’t look too good. That said, we can count on Jason to not make bonehead mistakes like Purple Drank. JC has presence and knows when to get rid of it.
The defense, and especially the line looks solid. Excited to see what these cats bring to the table this year.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Let’s package a trade – Routt & Thomas Howard for a starting ORT.
I don’t care if Veldheer & BCampbell are newbie rookies. They are already an upgrade from Satele & Carlisle. I like what I saw of both these rookies. I know it was against 2’s & 3’s but they have a real upside. Satele & Carlisle don’t! The rookies new reps with the 1’s. By the 4th week they should be way ahead of where we are right now. Satele is embarrassing. Carlisle is just over the hill.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Hey, I’m optimistic too but I have to LMAO @ Priest calling anyone “a bit hasty.”
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LOL! That’s some funny sh1t there. A bit hasty? from Priest? lol…
August 12th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
explain, you have an issue with me Bo?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
did anyone hear the pre and post game show on online? i tried both kfrc and 105 website and got nothing. it shouldnt be this damn complicated 2 hear a fugging broadcast over the net. the raiders shouldve hooked up with ktrb, a real sports talk station. btw ktrb sucks. i cant stand that damn jj and the mouth or even rick tittle but atleast he will talk raiders. the rest of that sh!t just blows.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
You mean that Dline that Al Davis put together?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Armond Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
did anyone hear the pre and post game show on online? i tried both kfrc and 105 website and got nothing. it shouldnt be this damn complicated 2 hear a fugging broadcast over the net. the raiders shouldve hooked up with ktrb, a real sports talk station. btw ktrb sucks. i cant stand that damn jj and the mouth or even rick tittle but atleast he will talk raiders. the rest of that sh!t just blows.
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I miss the days of KTCT 1050. Sure, it was propaganda. But it beats the crap that’s out there right now. Pure garbage.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Whassup Armond
it’s been a minute.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Priest, you are an unapologetic optimist, admit it. You often get hasty proclaiming players to be the next phenoms “if they just grow into their talent”. Remember Arman Shields?
Own up to yourself. You never fail to see the potential in players, before there is but scant hope of it being realized. You define hasty. Period. LOL.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
jb id like to have gaither but i know hes hurt now.i definately think campbell and veldheer need to be the c and rg NOW. i dont recall them getting pushed back at all and those who said campbell couldnt run block must have been smokin. dude was movin his man so easy and got to the second level. he and veldheer were good in pass pro also. priest u called it with houston before the draft so props to ya. i hated the game plan. i would like to have seen more runs mixed in early.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Solid Defense with an offense that can move it every now and then, but not make many mistakes. Who knows fellas, but I think that’d at least be worth 2-3 victories from last year, putting us at .500. Still early but we’ll see.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I will admit you saw the flaws in DMAC from predraft – your one memorable moment of public cynicism.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
yeah wattup priest. ive been out of town on vacation. got back this week just it time for the game. now we can finally have some legit convos about who can make it and who wont. trs u right about the ticket 1050. atleast it was raiders all day too. i just dont like the setup of ktrb. no local programming like knbr and its really dry. that damn jj and the mouth are some straight biotches. i cant even listen to that no more. rick tittle gets on my nerves but he will talk raiders. i just think hes a jackazz with some of his comments.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Jerry
No matter how hard you try to put on damper on this it was a very good showing for the Raiders tonight. It’s not like they were going against the Chiefs sorry defense in Oakland this is was one of the top 2-3 teams in this league at home and the Raiders shut them out………..period
Our offense has a long way to go and Campbell looked good IMO nt just because he didn’t turn it over but because he was on time with his throws and he gave his players a chance to make plays. I see why Mr Davis likes this kid he has great pocket presence he’s decisive and exudes confidence. He’s a leader and you can just see it forget the stats. They will manifest themselves because he will throw completions……. a lot of them. Kid throws a great ball easy to catch.
Our front7 looks like it might be in the top 5 in the league, I guess you and your cohorts who pronounced Mr Davis dead a long time ago were a bit hasty.
This young team he’s built is very talented, it showed bigtime tonight so you might as well admit the fact that he hasn’t gotten a GM and was able to get this done smashes egg all over your face you and Monte Foole.
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And you’re an idiot.
So…what else is new?
Seriously…you actually run that moronic “doesn’t have a GM and was able to get the job done”?? You fool.
The offense looked like crap…what? You past out drunk for that part?
Running backs were lacking..except for those not making the team, going against scrubs.
Campbell’s plus was that he isn’t JR..YEAH, IT’S “WELL, HE’S BETTER THAN JR” level..yeah, yeah, it’s preseason, and he’ll settle in, but don’t come on here with that garbage about how “Campbell looked good, in that he didn’t turn it over”…THAT’S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE TELLING CRITERIA..49 yds just under a half of play is something that is anything but “looked good”
and stating the front 7 could be top 5 IN THE LEAGUE?? you need to get back on the meds, TJ..that’s just ignorant. Dallas played Sunday, traveled Monday, couple walk troughs, and a quick exit for the starters, and you proclaim them top 5, and run the AL STILL HAS IT? LOL..you idiot.
What’s really sad about you is how spineless you are. You run these silly comments, and then when you’re wrong, you tuck tail and hide…
Here’s bad news for ya..until the 4th quarter the team looked pretty bad, except for the Dline controlling their scrubs.
Figures you would crow, lol.
I’ll say it again…IT’S PRESEASON, AND IT MEANS NOTHING..except for individual play..and honestly?
Out of the starters? Maybe 3 get stars…rest was getting out cobwebs.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Listen Bo everybody in here says what they think a particular player might be able to do that why they cry like hell when their player doesn’t get picked.
I just do it with more description than most. Everyone said what DMC would do if we drafetd him didn’t they? how’s that different
I’m an experienced football fan who watches a lot of colege football and I always project players it’s called a draftnik. Something you know notyhing about obviously.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
You mean that Dline that Al Davis put together?
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Al Davis and his cronies are always ready to hogg the credit, but never man up to the blame. That’s why the place is so dysfunctional.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
I’m an experienced football fan who watches a lot of colege football and I always project players it’s called a draftnik.
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You so funny!
Seriously, you think I went out on a limb calling you an “optimist” or “hasty”? I really wish I had your powers of delusion.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Chris Johnson got beat up a little bit.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Jamie Dukes says we got our qb but there is no one to throw too!!!!
August 12th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Can’t run when 60% of your O-line is getting stuffed. That will be fixed when the C, RG & RT are replaced.
I thought JCampbell was a little tentative in his passing game. This is especially true on his out routes. If he can put a little more zip on them his completions will increase significantly.
Bennett seemed to have the most running success. Of course that was against 2’s & 3’s but he still looked good.
I’m still a Nick Miler fan. He just has that X-factor. He makes things happen. We need players like that on the roster. He single handedly started our comeback. That was a great catch – good hands & concentration.
Once we fix the O-line we should be good to go. We will certainly be the ones to beat in the AFC-W.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Samson Satele, whooooo-boy.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Armond
Rick Tittle really says some off the wall crap no doubt. Sometimes I wonder what the hell he’s looking at, he had the nerve to say Nnamdi can cove and can’t tackle. That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. As if OC’s and QB’s stay away from him because they’re hypnotized. lol
August 12th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
A dominate D-Line is a good foundation.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
I loved the aggressive play-calling at the end of the first half.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
No Bo I just think your freaking clueless…….how bout that? I have an opinion about certain players The only players I spoke about are the ones I feel strongly about. If I don’t know a player I say it…..period
Just like I didn’t have an opinion on Jason Campbell, I’ll just say if they apply themsleves they have a chance to be whatever. You can’t comprehend that? lol
August 12th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
View Poll Results: Grade the defense you saw tonight
A 2 25.00%
B 5 62.50%
C 1 12.50%
D 0 0%
F 0
August 12th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Nice call to let J Campbell etal go well into the 2nd qtr, to get some rhythm.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Priest,
Do you just cut and paste the same posts every year about this time?? You really say the same stuff every year.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Al Davis, Keep your bony twisted arthritic needy claws off.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Trano
August 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Priest,
Have you EVER posted anything that proved to be true?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
OK I’ll do it now
You’re STUPID!!
August 12th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Defense obviously played good overall. I would have liked to have seen more blitzing in the first quarter of course, but overall they played solid.
Offense sputtered in the beginning and I thought Hue should have run the ball a bit more….but he wanted to practice the pass.
Throwing a slant on 4th and 1 was silly however….gotta be physical and run the rock!
I would have liked to have seen more plays called that had Campbell role out a bit and move the pocket to buy him more time.
Blitz pickup from O-Line needs to be worked on!
O-Line needs to play better from the get go and they need to set the tempo!
August 12th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I am not down with players who “speak”! They are paid to play, NOT flap thier dang GUMS!
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Free country.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Soooooo….that would be a no, eh?? LOL! Love it when a guy spews complete BS year after year after year yet still ties to act like he knows ANYTHING about what hes talking about.
You do know anyone can go back and look at your past posts dont you Priest?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
No Bo I just think your freaking clueless…….how bout that?
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You do not even know me! Stop being so hasty.
How can you judge me based on such little information… it’s not like I’m Arman Shields.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
The Center position is still a weak spot.
Satele or Morris need to get their heads out of their asses and step it up!
August 12th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Al Davis LIVES!!!
KK all you do eat whatever he feeds you like your famished and come in here and complain….because that’s just how sick you are. Or else you wouldn’t even bother. You just about had loved what you saw which is what he biult and then you say keep your hands off………get a life.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
key to a win over dallas was al davis!!
August 12th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
So, who do we keep…Boyd or Eugene?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Anything the Raiders are doing right that isn’t deep passing or man defense, Al’s putting an end to it.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Al would rather lose throwing deep and using man coverage than go 19-0 doing anything else.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Suicide/near death watch:
• Bodiford, WR
• Watkins, WR
• Satele, C
• Morris, C/OG
• Eugene, FS
• Gunheim, DE
• Joseph, DT
• Waters, K/P
• Rodd, OG
• Tonga, FB
• Reece, FB
• Norris, LB
Trade Bait:
• Routt, CB
• Howard, LB
• Brown, LB
• Higgins, WR
• Frye, QB
• Boller, QB
August 12th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
You gave me plenty of info with your comments about my projections of players. That’s what’s fun about being a fan trying to project what your team needs and who can fill them. I’ve been a draftnik for years, it’s what we do. Use whatever term so you can understand it yourself.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
priest when he says that namdi is overrated and that we shouldve kept morrison it makes me sick. he also doesnt see the benefit of t.scott playin wlb over howard. well 2nite just proved why he is. that damn dline is nasty. its only one game but that seymour kelly dt combo looked pretty damn effective now didnt it? jerry said somethin stupid about lamar beig a poa guy. well he showed he can get after that qb also. joseph looked very explosive as well. im hopin heard can make an impact. he is that big young run stuffer we need to develope to counter the quickness of
d bryant.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
GRIM Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
So, who do we keep…Boyd or Eugene?
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The Wolverine, Stevie Brown
August 12th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Arent you a little biased there, Bo?
August 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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August 12th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
jb id take joseph tonga and reece off of that list. that fb position is 2 wide open right now and jospeh was damn fast 2nite.the passin game wil take alittle time now that they have to get use to game speed. people get on cj but that throw and catch between romo and austin had to do with chemistry. people expect cj to shut everyone down tho he is going up against probowl wrs. that was an athletic catch miles made over good coverage. that defense really looked more disciplined.
August 12th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Anybody that’s watched football or studdied the NFL over a long period of time and followed the draft knows that great players don’t make it in this league all the time. There have been some extremely talented players who didn’t make for a myriad of reasons. It happens most of making it at this level is mental and confidence. But ither factors creep in and they just don’t make it.
Doesn’t mean a projection is wrong talent wise it can be spot on but he just doesn’t love the game. Or injuries, chronic illness, drugs just to name a few. It’s tough to make it in that league it weeds out some of the very best.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:01 am
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
You gave me plenty of info with your comments about my projections of players.
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Umm, I mentioned Arman Shields and then gave you credit for the DMAC projection. No other players mentioned. So I am “clueless”? Of course we all know there are a litany of failed players who never lived up to your billing, but I did not mention them. Didn’t have to, I guess.
Why can’t you be a LITTLE honest with yourself and admit to being hasty/optimistic by often over-projecting young Raiders? A bit of humility and self-awareness can be a blessing old man.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I miss Warren Sapp. Hopefully we have a few Warrens on the team. Somebody has to speak truth to power. We’ll find out by week 8, when we’re out of playoff contention. Usually that’s when the real men speak up.
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I am not down with players who “speak”! They are paid to play, NOT flap thier dang GUMS! Sappy was only good for that during his time with the RAIDERS! TALK TALK TALK! I say SOFT SOFT SOFT! Twinkie SOFT! No run D, very little PASS rush, especially when it mattered!
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I am not down with players who “speak”! They are paid to play, NOT flap thier dang GUMS!
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Free country.
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Yep, it is a free country.
“We’ll find out by week 8, when we’re out of playoff contention. Usually that’s when the real men speak up.”
Real men PLAY the game! Sissy boys talk.
Isn’t liking a DT because the way he talks kinda like liking a Boxer because of the way he dresses?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Looks like C. Cooper will make the team. Who else we got to play DE? Houston, Sagnasty, Cooper!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:06 am
priesttj Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Anybody that’s watched football or studdied the NFL over a long period of time and followed the draft knows that great players don’t make it in this league all the time.
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People who rarely watch the game know that too, priest.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 am
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Isn’t liking a DT because the way he talks kinda like liking a Boxer because of the way he dresses?
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I liked Sapp as a player, too. His hands were tied here with a horrible team and a horrible owner who ruined defensive gameplans, and he spoke out about it. I respect that.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 am
GRIM Says:
August 12th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Arent you a little biased there, Bo?
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Yep, but the camp reports seem to point to Brown regardless. Appears to be a playmaker…disagree?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:14 am
great post#67 Armond.
Sometimes I think Rick is just driving calls so he says inflamatory crap that he knows is stupid. He can’t be that stupid at least I hope not. Keep Morrison anyone who saw that Front7 and says we should’ve done anything different shouldn’t be on the air. Houston and Shonasty at DE and the 2 DT’s is as talented as you can ask for. We have about 7 LB’s that can play. And Joseph and Bryant look like starters.
Nick Miller is a keeper fo sho. If they cut that kid they’re crazy, he just makes plays and has great hands.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Jay Richardson.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:19 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 am
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Isn’t liking a DT because the way he talks kinda like liking a Boxer because of the way he dresses?
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I liked Sapp as a player, too. His hands were tied here with a horrible team and a horrible owner who ruined defensive gameplans, and he spoke out about it. I respect that.
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GM’s buy the groceries, Coaches cook, and Players EAT! Not talk.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:19 am
All I’ve got to say is thank God there are a few more weeks of camp.
The passing game was horrible.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Nick Miller should make this Raider team without a doubt!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Bo you guy’s al never seem to remember the ones I get right either so you could use a little humility as well. I get a lot more right than I get wrong I just don’t beat a drum about them.
All you haters count ones missed. I was right about MBush being better than DMC long before he was healthy. I was right a T Scott and Mario Henderson and even that Micheal Huff was player too cautous. I was right about Hiram Eugene making the team before any of you knew his name. I could go on but I know your already saying I’m lying so why bother. Your just a hater………..period
August 13th, 2010 at 12:26 am
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:19 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 am
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Isn’t liking a DT because the way he talks kinda like liking a Boxer because of the way he dresses?
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I liked Sapp as a player, too. His hands were tied here with a horrible team and a horrible owner who ruined defensive gameplans, and he spoke out about it. I respect that.
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GM’s buy the groceries, Coaches cook, and Players EAT! Not talk.
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When the GM buys the wrong groceries and the coach can’t cook, the player talks.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:27 am
I said you were lying? What a lie. I said you were HASTY and OPTIMISTIC. Pay attn. And as for this: “you guy’s al never seem to remember the ones I get right either”, what about my post #34? Period.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:28 am
priest, you keep referring to everyone who disagrees with you as a hater I’m going to start thinking you’re white.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:30 am
And it looks all the world like I’m right about “little Nicky Miller the DB killer”
August 13th, 2010 at 12:33 am
No you said that I was right about DMC and wrong about all the rest at least you implied that.
I was also right about Matt Shonasty when I came in here an dtold everyone he was a player and was roundly attacked for doing so. Well looks like i was right!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Oh by the way It looks like I’m right about Lamarr Houston as well….
August 13th, 2010 at 12:35 am
The Center position is still a weak spot.
Satele or Morris need to get their heads out of their asses and step it the heck up!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:35 am
# priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:33 am
I was also right about Matt Shonasty when I came in here an dtold everyone he was a player and was roundly attacked for doing so. Well looks like i was right!!!!!!!
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That’s right. He just got selected to the pro bowl.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:36 am
The Defense obviously played good overall. I would have liked to have seen more blitzing in the first quarter of course, but overall they played solid.
Offense sputtered in the beginning and I thought Hue should have run the ball a bit more….but he wanted to practice the pass.
Throwing a slant on 4th and 1 was silly however….gotta be physical and run the rock!
I would have liked to have seen more plays called that had Campbell role out a bit and move the pocket to buy him more time.
Blitz pickup from O-Line needs to be worked on!
O-Line needs to play better from the get go and they need to set the tempo!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:38 am
# DKnight007 Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:35 am
The Center position is still a weak spot.
Satele or Morris need to get their heads out of their asses and step it the heck up!
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Doesnt matter where their asses are. Neither of them is NFL starter material. Actually, they are at best poor back-up material. Veldheer is our answer for the center position. As they say, you can print that.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Of course you guy’s don’t know this but I was right about Tommy Kelly the same as Iam right about Des Bryant when Lefty12 told me not to expect too much from an undrafted rookie.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:41 am
RMR
I said he would be our starting rush end and was I right? if he stays healthy double digit sacks………..period
August 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
Iright more than mpost people put together in here I just don’t blow a horn about it. You have people like Seymour Bush, J Wiggle, Armond, Lefty12 and several others whpo really know the game but most are in here just retyping what they read…………period
August 13th, 2010 at 12:46 am
The fact that our D line (the 1’s) stuffed their 1’s bodes well. Dallas has a fairly substantial established O-line. Our new bunch held their own and then some. They will only get better with time. Add to that we didn’t need to blitz to get to the passers says a lot about the starting 4. Houston and Seymour together are a load. Then Tommy Keley can hold the middle while MattS sneaks in from behind. Add to that possible blitzes from the fastest back seven in the league & I think we could easily be a top 10 or better D. The O will come around as soon as we fix the O-line. I’m optimistic for this upcoming season. Pass the koolaide please.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:48 am
priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
Iright more than mpost people put together
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Well, I’m your huckleberry.
Got a prediction for the final record this year?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:57 am
Surely there’s a right tackle out there that won’t continually kill us with false starts, right? Is that so much to ask for?
August 13th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Who can predict a final record you idiot, If you can gaurantee me that our entire team will be healthy all year long I’ll give yu a final record.
Who do you think your talking to stupid?
August 13th, 2010 at 1:13 am
mrs,please stfu,you Never see anything positive, the niners play on Sunday. OH,just wondering if a niner blog might be available,perhaps some pay back would be in order, Raiders!!!!!!!!! mrs, richo chetie
August 13th, 2010 at 2:27 am
99’s take on last night’s game:
First, the obvious…
DL with Seymour at DT, along with Houston, Shaugnassy and Scott thrown in, can really bring the heat. This is a formidable unit and once some blitz packages are added to the mix, the QB will go down and he’ll go down hard. Very happy with this unit.
OL continues to be the main concern for the 2010 Raids. This unit appears to frequently get overpowered and isn’t proficient at protecting the QB or opening lanes for a running attack. Valdheer and Campbell might provide a lift but immediate help is needed. Al must try to make personnel moves to improve this group, will be surprised if Raids stand pat going into regular season.
Now for the not so obvious:
I have not been a fan of Jason Campbell based on my limited observations of his play with the Redskins. In fact, I thought he was a stiff. His completion percentage was good but I attributed that to alot of check downs and short passes. I was leaning towards the opinion that he couldn’t throw an accurate intermediate or deep pass. I know this will sound absurd, but based on the two deep sideline INCOMPLETIONS to Murphy last night, I’m ready to believe Campbell can throw a good deep ball and I expect the Raids to hit some long TD’s this season.
Both those passes just missed, but once the timing gets down I can see some successful play action bombs and the return of the Raider deep strike capability. At least I’m hoping so. Might not be Stabler or Plunkett to Branch, but I think we’ll put the fear of the deep strike back into opposing defenses, and that’s something that’s been missing for a long time now, even with Gannon at the helm. Maybe I’m like Al and the game has passed me by, but I still believe the bomb should be an integral part of Raider football, and I’m hoping we can revitalize that aspect of our offense.
If this team can manage to score some points and the defense plays as well as I think it can, the Raids are going to surprise alot of people this year.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:10 am
Had a chance to go to the Pats-Saints game last night. One thing I saw:
Gerrard Warren making plays in the running game. They are lining him up at left END and he is taking on d-teams a lot but he’s still involved. And that’s against a good 1st-string offense in NO. He’s stout and strong, was not getting moved off the ball at all. Shockey blocks like a girl so that might have something to do with it.
Still, I think our new d-line is better now with what we got.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am
After reading the raiders beat writers, calm down its preseason and the first game for the offense. Yes we all know we still should have taken a chance with T.O. but we have a young team thats coming from nowhere trying to get somewhere. Relax writers and melt down and talk bad about jason campbell and offense after 5 ot 6 games into the nfl season
August 13th, 2010 at 5:03 am
Trade Bait:
• Routt, CB
• Howard, LB
• Brown, LB
• Higgins, WR
• Frye, QB
• Boller, QB
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JB:
JLH, Ricky Brown & Charlie Frye are locks
Print That
August 13th, 2010 at 5:09 am
Penciling Jared Veldheer and Bruce Campbell into the starting lineup on the basis of handling some tired Dallas scrubs is a bit of a reach, but it’s nice to dream of some young blood ready to help right away.
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LOL!
Jerry Mac was obviously talking to Jwigg here
it’s ok. he shot a Kirk Morrison comment at me yesterday when I complained about the run D against Dallas starters
he was in a fiesty mood last night, eh?
August 13th, 2010 at 5:11 am
If we could have signatures in this forum mine would be…
Frye Shmye, Higgins Shmiggins, Howard Shmoward.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:12 am
alright fellas. busy work day ahead
had fun last night … glad to see a win, even if it took 4th quarter scrubs like Nick Miller & Jerome Boyd to get the job done
August 13th, 2010 at 5:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 5:09 am
he was in a fiesty mood last night, eh?
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he was lol. he gave Papa some lip too haha.
Touchdoooooooown Jerrrrrrrrrrry!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:15 am
btw the refs last night were racist!
Nick Miller’s TD counted but at least 2 of Louis Murphys TD’s were called back last year that actually were in bounds with possession
not enough reason to keep that little clown on the roster imo – Figurs outplayed him, might be fighting with Watkins now for that 6th WR spot
August 13th, 2010 at 5:16 am
have a great day Raider fans.
GG, keep it real bro
August 13th, 2010 at 5:22 am
chat soon RR!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Problem with JaLosers statement was that he failed a drug test after his arrest. He had no script. He is a liar and the reporter on ESPN caught him. He told the arresting officer the drink next to his bed was his. JaLoser and his attorney are trying to change the facts but the Grand Jury will indict. Do I smell plea bargain. The fact that the Raider’s offered him help and he refused lends credence to my belief that they Raider’s turned him in to get their money back.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Pretty cool to have Jerry in here with us last night. He didn’t like my semi-pro comment too much.
Toughest thing to evaluate in preseason is QB’s, IMO. Easiest thing to evaluate is the LOS battles.
So, with that said, can’t get much out of what Campbell did. He wasn’t good or bad, a couple nice throws, a couple of off throws. One thing you can tell is that he does have a pretty quick release, not the big wind-up like JaLiar. His last pass was his worst one, the 4th and 1 overthrow.
O-line, did OK in run-blocking, and struggled on a few pass plays. Still an issue, but our O-line did better than Dallas’ (with the 1’s) so I guess that may be the silver lining. I expect a lot of shuffling around with this unit. Gallery and Mario may be the only guys (barring injuries) that don’t get replaced at some point in the season.
D-Mac better get healthy, because I did like what I say in Rock and Bennett. Granted it was against scrubs, but they looked how they should against scrubs, like they were way better than them. If Darren isn’t ready to go next Saturday, I wouldn’t mind seeing one or both get at least a carry or two with the ones.
With that, I am going to go finish packing and flying out to D.C, the land of Campbell.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Watched BC, and V they looked really good yesterday.
BC and V should get first team reps next game. Want to see how they perform against the 1’s….
August 13th, 2010 at 6:29 am
I liked what I saw from Jason Campbell last night. He hd no problem at all throwing the short stuff, he was decisive and got rid of the ball when he should have, and was with a couple of exceptions pretty accurate. The first deep ball to Louis Murphy was (in my opinion) beautifully thrown; Murphy just couldn’t bring it in with two Dallas defenders around him.
Still disappointed in the center play, and some pretty blatant whiffs by both Satele and Morris were damaging. Other than that I don’t think the line played too badly.
For all the talk about Hue Jackson (the offense seems to need to work on better timing, but that’s to be expected at this point, I think), I think Mike Waufle has had at least as much of an impact on the team this year. The young guys looked really good, and Houston specifically mentioned Waufle as helping him a great deal with his technique and how to attack his opponent.
McClain seemed to have a pretty good idea out there, and it was nice to see a Raider middle linebacker actually playing like one for a change.
Also nice to see JLH run with a bit of recklessness on his one punt return. I know he didn’t play against the first team defense, but I thought Michael Bennett looked awful good. That’s going to be an interesting choice for the Raiders because the last thing you want is him landing in Denver.
Obviously work to do but a good start.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:39 am
If DHB starts listening to the media again, he’s going to have another horrible year. Everyone is already starting to doubt him, since he didn’t have a single catch last night. I hope they at least throw a bomb his way during the next game, just to see what happens.
Boyd got a gift, but I don’t see him making the team, as of right now. Nick Miller impressed me; if he stays healthy, I think he’s got a spot. Defensive pressure was good – Houston is proving his worth already. Campbell had to do a lot of check-downs last night — a lot of short passes; that may bode well for D-Mac, long-term. A good outing for the Raiders … I am hopeful, but I am not chirping about playoffs, just yet.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:56 am
3 things in reference to last nights game.
1. It’s early to criticize the offense. Defense is always ahead of offense. It was the cowgirls 2nd game on D.
2. Our D line looked cohesive and 4 sacks in 1st have was impressive.
3. No Major INJURIES.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Keep in mind, this is the same cowgirls who physically beat up the Bengals last week. No such dominance over the Raider’s.
August 13th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Replay at 3:30 pm est on NFL.com
August 13th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Exla, I was just gonna write that! Thanks
August 13th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Worst call of the game was that 4th and 1 pass play Hue called.
No confidence in Satele or Carlisle to run it 1 YARD for a first down?
WTF?????
August 13th, 2010 at 7:08 am
I think my favorite play of the whole night was by Big John Henderson. He was engaged with a Dallas OG and basically grabbed the guy and pulled him out of the hole while falling down backwards in an effort make it look like he got blocked that way. The linebacker stepped into the hole and blew up the play.
Waufle was probably laughing his a** off an the sidelines.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:15 am
J Wiggle,
I don’t agree with that. An unusual call, yes, but if the ball was thrown accurately it’s a first down.
I think the call was fine; it’s the execution that was lacking.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
William Joseph actually played well too at DT. Well one or two snaps i saw of him he had the line going backwards.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:22 am
This offensive line is, well, offensive. Without significant upgrades it could keep us from going 8-8. What a disgrace, and it has to do with Al’s continuing obsession with the skill positions.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Remember – we beat Dallas early in the preseason last year, too. It didn’t really prove a thing.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:30 am
The good thing with Campbell, he is used to playing with bad O-Lines, so he should be able to handle just fine.
As for the offense and the passing game, I think the playcalling was conservative because there’s no sense in using too many plays in preseason.
I think the coaches wanted the offense just to put their toes in the water to check the temperature. And they did better than i thought they would with the Cowboys pass rush and decent secondary. Only gave up one sack? I know we gave up pressure but one sack against a front seven I compare to the Ravens is a far cry from last year.
Still, I think you’ll see Campbell and Veldheer start the last few games of the year if not sooner.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:31 am
true that tbone but our first string handled themselves fairly decently against an alleged Super Bowl favorite.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Chris Carter said the Raiders are much improved.
It’s about time.
JR talking on ESPN!!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:48 am
JR,
Dude, what is wrong with you?!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:48 am
I know it’s pre-season, but I didn’t see the improved offense I was hoping to see. Run defense does look improved, and pass coverage was better than I expected – leading to a couple sacks.
Bennett looked real good, Bush and Rock – not so much. At least there weren’t any serious injuries.
Hopefully the offense improves as we move towards the regular season.
Oh yeah, cut Eugene!
Go Raiders! (1-0)
August 13th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Chris Carter said the Raiders are much improved.
It’s about time.
JR talking on ESPN!!
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ESPN is terrible
i saw the recap of the game last night (as i was unable to watch it)
you know what they showed?? nothing but cowboys highlights
the only raiders highlights they showed was a sack on Campbell and a couple incomplete passes
and i was acctually hoping for some pro raiders highlights for once…
August 13th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Yeah, when they completed the pass to Miles Austin, I’m surprised they didn’t pan the crowd to find little Ms. Kar-TRASH-ian. The media just loves the Cowboys!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:52 am
I have ESPN Mobile on by cell. They sent me plenty of highlights and replays. I also get NFL.com and Red Zone for free with my data package. Looking forward to the replay with my magnifying glass.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:53 am
BC and V should be starting on the right side of the O line.
McFadden and DHB should be waived. They are busts. Unfortunately it will take Al another year to admit it.
We need to concentrate next year’s draft on offense.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:54 am
We need to improve:
1- OL ( right side is weak)
2- Chris Johnson continues to be picked on, he makes plays, but he also misses a lot of plays & allows a lot of catches.
3- Our WRs didn’t look good, RBs, or QB, but that could be due to the weak play of the OL.
Fix the OL!!!! Isn’t our HC suppose to be an OL Gurur?!?!?!
You are on thin ice Fat Monkey!!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Yeah, i scrounged ESPN all morning this morning, and i couldnt find a decent highlight, think i might have to check NFL.com for a semi non biased one
August 13th, 2010 at 7:56 am
ESPN is one of my fav networks, but I agree. They are Bias!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
the only raiders highlights they showed was a sack on Campbell and a couple incomplete passes
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I watched the game, and that’s all I saw of the first team offense too! You didn’t miss much, 9-0 in the fourth qtr.
this link has some Raiders highlights: http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d819a79dc/Raiders-on-the-rise
August 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Defensive front 7 looked very good. Especially the starters. ABout time we went big upfront. Jerry alluded to a good point in the 1st paragraph about Al Davis interference. Davis needs to let the John Marshall do his job. Go with the different looks, move Nnamdi and Scott around, occassional blitz packages, bring Huff up from time to time etc…that vanilla defensive b.s we’ve been running in the past doesn’t work. AGain, let Marshall do his job!
If that vanilla b.s rears its ugly head in week 1….that may be all for me
August 13th, 2010 at 7:59 am
McFadden and DHB should be waived. They are busts. Unfortunately it will take Al another year to admit it.
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im not quite ready to give up on either of them yet, let them compete this year, they both know they are certainly on thin ice, but i think they might come out strong… or at least decent
August 13th, 2010 at 8:00 am
NFL Network showed highlights, and when they mentioned DHB, Jamie Dukes started crumbling paper into the microphone – that bastard!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Offensive line will hold the team back. Thankfully, Jason Campbell has proven to be a durable QB. He will need to be.
DHB needs to look better. 0 catches…step up big man
JLH – 3 receptions for 38 yds…he will be the #4 receiver when camp breaks.
Did I mention that DHB needs to start looking like a starting wide receiver….he’s on the watch list for sure
Chaz Schilens, Darren McFadden, Bruce Gradkowski….these injury issues are going to keep these guys on the bench all year…and out of the league the next…gotta stay healthy
August 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Waufle appears to be making a BIG difference.
Wish we had brought back Rathman to rescue DMAC from the trash heap.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:08 am
I like #27 – Stevie Brown.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Top 12 defense!!! 22 carries for 66 yards!!! We have a Run Defense!!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Me too. For the first time in many years we have good depth at safety…
August 13th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Jeremy Ware got burned.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Top 12 defense!!! 22 carries for 66 yards!!! We have a Run Defense!!
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that alone i think is reason for celebration
August 13th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Isn’t Ware from Mich?! He should be an expert at stealing & cheating.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
WR could not get open. OL couldn’t pass protect. RB getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.
Not much to hang your hat as far as the starting offense is concerned.
I didn’t realize how slow Campbell’s delivery was either until last night. He has to get faster.
Houston got 2 sacks on first series. Guy is going to be huge!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Tuned in to SportsCenter — about 13 minutes of highlights between Saints and Patriots (they are jsut slobbering all over themselves for a Pats vs. Saints Super Bowl!) Don’t even see highlights for the Raiders coming up on the scroll – they’re down to story #7 — Pirates vs. Padres — are you KIDDING me?!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am
We can have a top defense as long as they stay modern in their approach. Different looks, rotation, moving players around, mixing in some zone with the man 2 man…playing big…occassional blitzing.
Everyone should read Jerry’s 1st paragraph. Hope he is wrong on that
August 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Raidertbone,
The only way the Raiders get more coverage is by winnning games.
Having DHB get more than 0 receptions would help too
August 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Mustafa – Stevie Brown is from Michigan.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Wide receiver depth chart if draft and money didn’t matter:
1. Louis Murphy
2. Johnnie Lee Higgins
3. Jacoby Ford
4. Nick Miller
5. DHB
Gotta start giving the nod to production and health
August 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Depth chart could change based on future performance. But that’s how I see it now….maybe swap Miller and Ford at #3
August 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Offensive line is terrible. The whole right side (C, RG, RT) is suspect.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
My bad Preppie.
Brown should be an expert at cheating & stealing since he from Mich!!
The Great OSU > Preppie Mich!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Stealing is admirable in a safety. Not so much in a QB (i.e. Art Schlichter, the greatest pro QB ever from OSU):
“Over the years, Schlichter has, by his own count, committed over 20 felonies. He gambled away much of his NFL, Arena League and radio salaries. Whenever he ran low on money to support his gambling, he stole and conned it from friends and strangers, and frequently passed bad checks. In a 2007 interview for ESPN’s Outside the Lines, he estimated that he’d stolen $1.5 million over the years, if not more.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Schlichter
August 13th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Set your DVRs for 12:30 (Pacific Time) today. NFL Network is going to air the broadcast of the game. Raiders’ network will get one half and the Cowboys the other — that’s the way it usually works out. After that, we can better analyze what actually happened. Early results show the first team defense did pretty well, but there were some coverage breakdowns.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Offensive line is terrible. The whole right side (C, RG, RT) is suspect.
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Suspect? They got treated like rag dolls all in one play. Just watch the BSPN hilite of the JC sack. I disagree with Jerry Mc. We need to put V and Beast in there NOW. Can’t be much worst than the current guys.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
“Suppose he could, bu tit’s not just KOs it’s coverage teams, etc. . . . you don’t want another guy who trips?”
less than a minute ago via TweetDeck
Check out Jerry’s last tweet….he said tits…LOL
August 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Why do the Raiders always take two years to figure out who should be starting? Bush should have been starting two years ago. BC and V should be starting now. McFadden and DHB should be gone.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Hey BSJ:
There was a QB for the Buckeyes back in the early 70s – Corny Green (remember him?) If he had actually gotten a legitimate shot in the NFL, I think he might’ve made it.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Cooper Turnstile played horribly last night…same goes for Samson Satele too…he’s givin a bad name to Pacific Islanders…he played with no aggression.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Start Bush at running back – end of story!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Wow, our front four did really well yesterday. It has been a very long time for the front four to clog up the Running Lanes and putting up pressure.
I think our D is very legit other than the occasional weak link CJ.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Interesting game, hard to make judgements based on the first pre-season game but here goes:
Carlisle and Satele we’re poor last night, Carlisle was getting pushed around a lot last night, and Satele was a turnstyle.
In pass coverage a we still look like we’re going to have trouble with a good TE, I wouldn’t be so quick to send Howard out of town, we’re going to need someone that can match up on Gates if we expect to make a move on SD this year.
I liked the building momentum in the passing attack, with more reps it should be exciting.
GO RAIDERS!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
No, I do not recollect “Corny Green” lol. QBs in the days of Woody and Bo were never gonna be pro stars.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Trade DMAC for a turnstile!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
would have liked to see Nnamdi covering Miles Austin on those two third down passes that were obviously going his way.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Interesting take:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=70048
August 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
I think we should start calling Cooper “Kitty Carlisle” (old Hollywood reference) and then we have “Softy” Satele. Bring in more O-line people; we’ve already gotten rid of “Mop Handle” — now we need to get a few others replaced!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Captain,
Correct. Miles is their best receiver and we should also be providing safety help on CJ on every 3rd and long.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:42 am
BoSJack,
you gotta admit DMc had a good game last night in Arlington. No self-tackles, no stumbles, no fumbles.
that’s progress!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:42 am
AIG,
Yes the O-Line was terrible. Tom Cable is on the hook on this one since he hand crafted most of these guys. I still would like to see Campbell at RT and move “big” Langston Walker inside.
What the hell, put the Veldheer kid in at center now…he could at least hold his own.
What a freekn mess this is. Our O-Line needs to start a converted LT from D-3 to Center and play mix-n-match with the rest of the line.
Get it fixed!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
I hope Nnamdi is covering the #1 receiver at least 50% of the snaps.
Nnamdi could even be 10x better than he is if the Raiders would let him play!
I also hope we don’t end up with mismatches like last year when Brandon Marshall lined up opposite Kirk Morrison…while Nnamdi was covering “someone else”
Modernize please
August 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
i agree AIG. On a side note, they seemed to come out of the game relatively healthy, which is the most important thing.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Lonetree,
DMAC, Schilens and Gradkowski are all backup players because they can’t stay healthy in this league.
DMAC has disappointed and we are finding out why Schilens was available in the 7th round….Gradkowski keeps wrecking body part after body part the last 9 months
August 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
tbone,
if someone gives Satele a jawbone to start swinging perhaps he’ll begin making opponents miserable (long as he avoids Delilah altogether).
August 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
snb,
I was disgusted with 60% of our starting Oline. However, I am really looking forward to seeing V and B play on there. They treated Dallas non-starters like junior varsities. Can’t wait to watch the tivo again on the game today so I can see better who’s doing what.
The thing about Beast is he is far from being a polished product so I think that’s why they put him inside.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Let’s see which linemen are available after the last round of cuts. I think we can pick up one or two — then get rid of Routt and somebody else.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
M,
Yes, the progress DMAC is making is momentous. No more taking the ball out of Lechler’s hands with those short improvised punts on 3rd down.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
yeah Cap,
I thought we lost Walter for a second there. May be I am overly optimistic but our back up rookie db’s seem to be football players with good speed vs being a track star like Routt.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
aig,
yea, the way his arm was hanging i thought he might have dislocated his shoulder….but he got back in there. Nnamdi has been talkin him up this training camp- calm, cool, doesn’t get rattled. Hope he unseats Routt for sure. Routt has regressed from the moderate success he had a few years ago. Even that Travis Goethel kid played well. Could use someone like that on ST.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
BoSJack,
I’ll take DMc’s zero-sum over anti-productivity any day.
SnB,
I thought DMc and the Polish Pectoral were back-ups because they really aren’t good enough. As for Chaz…fragile is as fragile does.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Raidertbone Says:
NFL Network showed highlights, and when they mentioned DHB, Jamie Dukes started crumbling paper into the microphone – that bastard!
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That paper was a wrapper from Carl’s Jr 12″ cheese burger, that FAT bastard!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Ja Codiene…LIAR
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5460278
August 13th, 2010 at 9:01 am
V <——- start Him today…
B <——- start him today…
we need to et these rookies on the field
as much as it pains me the niners are doing exactly that starting both rookies…
August 13th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Polish Pectoral? LMFAO…that’s gold, Jerry! Gold!
August 13th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I think it’s overstating it to say that the Oline was bad last night.
Satele and Carlisle were TERRIBLE last night, and Walker wasn’t muich better.
BUT …
I thought Henderson, Gallery, Campbell, and Veldheer @ C all played well. I REALLY liked the two rooks.. I think they stood out. Against 2s and 3s, yeah. But they can’t be ANY worse than the starters.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:03 am
dont think i heard John Henderson’s name called once. Did the kid Heard play at all?
August 13th, 2010 at 9:04 am
RM you miss Sapp?
Exposes you for the bonehead Raider hater you are.
Sapp sucked as a Raider and then whines about it the rest of his life. (when he’s not beating up women)
All you haters need to go away.
This blog needs to have blocks in place so we don’t have to take the time to skip over freaking stupid hater comments like RM.
What a diik.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Routt got shook on a sweep play by Barber that ultimately went for all of 3 yds, lol.
He didn’t make one other bad play, or get beat by anyone.
Meanwhile CJ gives up a long pass play to Austin, and another 1st down on a 3rd and 5 on a quick slant. He did make a nice play on a ball later in the 2nd qtr.
BOTH guys fighting for the 2nd corner need to step their games up!
August 13th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I think our line is improving to say the least, although i didnt see many highlights, from what i saw, and what i heard, (only one sack given up, right?) they are slowly improving, maybe not the best we need, but they may do well until B.Campbell and Veldheer are fully groomed.
Rather have them develop their skills than stick them in when they are still so raw.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Big John was out there and made a couple nice plays against the run. He was definitely a factor.
Heard played late in the game.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Henderson had 1 assist and Heard had 1 tackle. Defense was pretty spread out — Mitchell had 4 tackles, the most of anybody.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Right on SnB.
If these guys are always hurt lets get rid of them and find some more durable players. McFad just has one injury after another.
Grad played well, when he could, but if he gets hurt from someone just looking at him he’s not reliable. Maybe he wants out.
When was the last time you saw Fitzgerald hurt? Boldin was always getting hurt so Cards traded him. Guaranteed he won’t make it thru a season w/o going on IR.
Get rid of the breakable sissy-boys!
August 13th, 2010 at 9:13 am
SDR,
I understand what you are saying, but Satele and Carlisle get collapsed more than anything. They are “in the way” blockers vs. Veldheer and Campbell actaully holding their ground if not moving forward.
My only issue with Veldheer is if he knows the playbook and line calls. Campbell was SOLID man.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:14 am
If the line only gave up one sack to Dallas’ powerful rush and were able to eek out 4.5 yds per carry, that’s a good start!
I’ll take it.
There’s progress Raiders cab build on.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Is it me or is RealMaddenRaider a lil nagging punk ? hey RMR. i think you need some meds
August 13th, 2010 at 9:16 am
To be honest with you, I’d rather take a gamble and bring Mark Bulger in as a backup, as opposed to going with “Fragile-kowski”. It may turn out that Boller may beat out everybody else for the #2. Oh and just so you all know – there’s a reason why we were able to pick up Colt Brennan so easily; he won’t be around long, if Frye heals back up.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:17 am
My only issue with Veldheer is if he knows the playbook and line calls. Campbell was SOLID man.
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Well, if Campbell continues to be solid, i think we will see him starting opening weekend.
Veldheer may need to study the game a little more, C is a tough position, very few people master it.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Charlie Frye better get healthy soon. Boeller didn’t look as bad as I initially though upon further review. Gotta factor in scrubs like Bodiford and Watkins as his WRs.
As soon as the real WRs Nick the Quick and JLH got on the field, he looked like a different guy.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:18 am
SouthDakotaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I think our line is improving to say the least, although i didnt see many highlights, from what i saw, and what i heard, (only one sack given up, right?) they are slowly improving, maybe not the best we need, but they may do well until B.Campbell and Veldheer are fully groomed.
Rather have them develop their skills than stick them in when they are still so raw.
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disagree Brother… 9ers are starting both new linemen…
August 13th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Raiderbone I agree Boller looked good. Not impressed by Frye though. Hasn’t even played much and he’s hurt. Unreliables need to go. Meds won’t help RM. He’s just a diik. Vasectomy might help. It would be a lobotomy for him.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Agree SDR …
But I tell you, Satele and his patty cake BS are on notice.
Bruce Campbell still has a few technique things to work on as well. I thought his initial push and punch were outstanding, but there were at least 3 times where his man was able to literally throw him aside. Mind you it was after Campbell had pushed him 2 yds back as opposed to Carlisle being in the backfield, lol.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Gotta give the coaches credit for improving DMAC’s ball security this season. They are clearly using the Tiki Barber method. It is amazing how rare fumbles can be when you don’t play a snap.
Hue: “Um, Darren, we think you should skip the stretching period before practice today and go straight to a series of timed 40 yard sprints.”
DMAC: “Ok coach. Do I need pads?”
Hue: “No, kid. But put on some smaller shoes…we got a tough game this Sunday.”
August 13th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Even if it’s just a warning shot to the current starters on the offensive line, next time they show up to practice Veldheer and Campbell should be running with the first team. See what those guys can do. It can’t be any worse than the alternative.
Then, sign Kevin Mawae and trade for a legitimate mauler RT who won’t false start once every freaking drive.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:24 am
I would say go ahead and get Campbell and Veldheer in the game. They aren’t going to do any worse are they and they pick up valuable experience. Although, I would still like to see Campbell on the outside and Walker pushed inside…but that’s one man’s opinion.
As for the WR position. If Schilens can’t go by the next preseason game…write him off…DHB has to start being a factor…preseason or not…the lights are not just going to come on for this guy. Can he get two catches next week. Weak performance from him yesterday.
Bush will do fine as the running back….and the defense looks very good, having big guys up front matter…..especially upfront. only issue on defense is whether Al Davis reverts back to his Man 2 Man vanilla looks or lets Marshall implement “the plan”
August 13th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Preseason is the perfect time to throw the rookies in if your line is already set. Trouble with Raiders is they don’t know who to go with so the veterans need reps because they don’t know who their best lineman are. They have to look at everybody.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:25 am
get b and V first team reps now…
August 13th, 2010 at 9:26 am
My WR depth chart…
Louis Murphy
Johnnie Lee higgins
Nick Miller
Jacoby Ford
Darius Heyward-Bey
Schilens on IR
August 13th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I always liked Cris Carter as a football player, amd he has become a decent football analyst. He was just on ESPN, breaking down footage from the game. They showed a couple of deep balls by Campbell, to Murphy (one was incomplete, into tight coverage, but a good ball nonetheless; the other, Murphy actually caught, but he was out of bounds). Cris Carter says that he believes JC will be successful this year but it’s all about stability and surrounding him with good people (RE: GOOD OFFENSIVE LINE PLAY). Carter says the Raiders “will be one of the most improved football teams in the league, if not THE most improved team”. Break it down!
August 13th, 2010 at 9:28 am
And Carter doesn’t like the Raiders. For him to say that…
August 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Tony Romo says back is ‘fine’ after three sacks in loss to Raiders
Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo brushed off concerns about an achy back after being sacked three times in Thursday’s loss to the Oakland Raiders.
“I’m fine,” Romo said, via ESPN, after playing in his second preseason game in five days.
The three sacks came during Romo’s limited work. While Romo accepted blame for one sack, the QB flattenings shine a light on a potential black spot for the Cowboys this season if they can’t get optimal performance from new LT Doug Free.
Romo talked about the sacks, via the Dallas Morning News:
“One of those we ended up running into each other on a route, so it’s different in that regard. Another one I held too long. I’ve got to get it out and then another one I can remember it just being the preseason in a sense. Felix (Jones) has an option route on a guy and there’s a second defender there. He just takes a little bit of an extra second there and that’s the adjustment of knowing there’s a time in your head for him and me. Those are things we’ll get synced up.”
– Sean Leahy
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/08/tony-romo-says-back-is-fine-after-three-sacks-in-loss-to-raiders/1
August 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Here’s a question. If Campbell and Veldheer end up being beasts at C and RG, does Tom Cable get the credit?
August 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Is it me or did Campbell look kinda slow from under center and seemed to stare down his receiver a little too much? His arm release seemed kinda slow as well and was maybe short on a deep pass or two. Didn’t see much zip on his short passes either. Hopin it was just jitters.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:32 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Routt got shook on a sweep play by Barber that ultimately went for all of 3 yds, lol.
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I saw the same thing and my first thought is he is not A NATURAL football player. He is supposed to contain the guy and turn him back in as the corner. Yet he still took the bait inside.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I was surprised that Jeremy Ware looked decent last night. Sure he got burned a couple times, but no worse than Routt and Johnson do. And that was Ware’s first time going up against legit NFL receivers. He’s fast and can hit, and looked a hell of a lot more natural than Routt does on the field.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Captain,
No it’s not you. It’s what the Redskins fans were complaining about all these years. You know those need 8 yards for a first down but dump it off at 4 yards or trying to get Murhpy killed. I mean why even bother throwing that play to Murphy. 3rd Down and long, Murphy ran a short route (short of first) and got covered by 2 guys. Why even bother killing Murhphy when you know darn well he aint going to get the first down.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:35 am
noticed that too AIG, regarding Routt…shoulda been stopped for no gain imo. Gotta attack and not let the ball carrier dictate anything.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Capt
Thats why I like the new rooks like Ware and Walter. They are both football players playing in big divisions as starters. They wont make bonehead plays like Routt.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:37 am
AIG,
that made no sense to me as well…throwing to guys running short routes…typicall they dont get much YAC any way…better off going deep in a situation like that rather than throwing short and still having to punt.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:38 am
I think we’ll be frustrated by Jason many times this season. He’s not the second coming of The Snake (that sounded dirty…). But I think we have to keep in mind who he’s replacing, and the fact that he’s our best alternative at this point. If he can grow with the young team the Raiders have surrounded him with, that’ll be great. But even that takes time.
And it’s not out of the question for us to draft another quarterback in the next couple years. Or make another trade. Matt Flynn from GB, anyone?
August 13th, 2010 at 9:38 am
We were lucky Murphy didnt get another concussion on that play Capt.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Campbell said as much that he was nervous…He will be fine
August 13th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Agreed Young. We can win by being a Tough D, Pound the rock (not with Satele), and dont turn the ball over. JC will help with not turning the ball over but I doubt he’s a passing phenom.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Agreed Young. We can win by being a Tough D, Pound the rock (not with Satele), and dont turn the ball over. JC will help with not turning the ball over but I doubt he’s a passing phenom.
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Definitely. And we’ve seen the Raiders do it before, except with a much, much worse defense. They wear down the opposing offense, force red zone field goal attempts instead of touchdowns, and by the end the opposing offense gets sloppy and starts making mistakes.
Campbell won’t be a turnover machine, which in and of itself is a vast improvement. The Raiders just need to surround him with better offensive linemen and give him more of a chance to see the field, which he’s had some issues with in the past. A good o-line will help wear down that opposing defense so even if the Raiders aren’t scoring a lot of early touchdowns, by the end of the game they can be in a position to win.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I said it before and I’ll say it again. Sign Mawae. Give Campbell a chance to start. Package Howard with draft picks and make a move for another tackle, be it Marcus McNeil, or Matt Light, or ANYONE really. Either move Veldheer to the right, or start developing him into a center behind Mawae.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Having Jason in place now is perfect for our long-term needs. You start him this year (and probably next), and bring in another young quarterback to groom along the way. It brings stability to the position, and I think Jason is the perfect guy for that. In the meantime, we’re gearing up NOW for a playoff run. I think we all agree that we need more help along the O-line and I see both Veldheer and Bruce the Beast cracking into the starting lineup by mid-season.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:50 am
AS for Jason Campbell…we have to see what he can do. Having to exclusively rely on journeyman QBs is the nasty result of this organization’s complete and total inability to develop a signal caller of their own.
It will take time for Campbell to adjust to our less than stellar wide receivers….our plodding O-line probably restricts things too.
We will be better than the past because Campbell is competent and accurate. He also doesn’t take a lot of chances….if you want more chances expect more turnovers…the key is to not be in those 3rd and long situations….but keeping down and distance manageable with short throws and a good running game
August 13th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I hope Jackson and Cable seriously scrutinize the receiver corps and just go with the best players that produce.
Time for Schilens and DHB to step up
August 13th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I don’t understand how the Raiders don’t see the correlation between a good passing game and having a good offensive line. If the coaching staff wants the passing game to get off the ground, the quarterback can’t be worried about his head getting taken off, or having to convert a 3rd-and-19.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Tony Romo says back is ‘fine’ after three sacks in loss to Raiders
Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo brushed off concerns about an achy back after being sacked three times in Thursday’s loss to the Oakland Raiders.
“I’m fine,” Romo said, via ESPN, after playing in his second preseason game in five days.
The three sacks came during Romo’s limited work. While Romo accepted blame for one sack, the QB flattenings shine a light on a potential black spot for the Cowboys this season if they can’t get optimal performance from new LT Doug Free.
Romo talked about the sacks, via the Dallas Morning News:
“One of those we ended up running into each other on a route, so it’s different in that regard. Another one I held too long. I’ve got to get it out and then another one I can remember it just being the preseason in a sense. Felix (Jones) has an option route on a guy and there’s a second defender there. He just takes a little bit of an extra second there and that’s the adjustment of knowing there’s a time in your head for him and me. Those are things we’ll get synced up.”
– Sean Leahy
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/08/tony-romo-says-back-is-fine-after-three-sacks-in-loss-to-raiders/1
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translation…we had zero idea that D was this good. we were expecting a cake walk, not get my head bashed in…
August 13th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Big ups to Lamarr and Sho-nasty. This defense is going to be fun to watch. I see Houston getting into the offensive line’s head. High-motor guy who talks a lot of game. Gotta love that.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Agree that we have to keep in mind the WRs he is working with. Pretty much DHB, Murphy, and Watkins, who were not really open.
I think it will look a lot better with McFadden, Schillens, Miller, and JLH/Miller on the field together. It’s not like we saw WRs running open that he missed.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I think the Raiders were being pretty conservative with how they used Zach, too. No sense in getting his bell rung in the preseason.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:00 am
YoungAmerican,
Tom Cable and Al Davis have tried to build this line with scrubs. Period.
The investment, up until this year, went to defensive backs and skill players on offense.
The lines and linebackers were mostly ignored…relying on quick fix free agents and low round picks….the O-Line was underinvested and Coach Cable thought he could coach em up.
Well he better…because this offense will float in the toilet until the O-Line starts playing
August 13th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Yeah, they finally invested in the LBs this year. Maybe next year is the year of the o-line?
August 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
we picked up 2 rookies got campbell a project first rounder…Start these youngsters now…
August 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Maybe it’s just because I called the Raiders drafting him, but I love the way Goethel played. The Raiders have one of those good problems with him, Ricky Brown, and Thomas Howard around.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am
we picked up 2 rookies got campbell a project first rounder…Start these youngsters now…
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Word. Seems like common sense. The line can’t be any worse than it is now. If they were good enough to draft, they should be good enough to play. With maybe one additional offseason move, the Raiders can completely remake the right side of the line. It’s gotta happen if they want to actually be contenders.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Let Huff play CB!! He can’t be worse than CJ! CJ needs help covering good WRs, so we need to have S help on top, or find a better CB!!!!
Play Huff @ CB!!!
Start Branch & Mitchell at Ss!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Or maybe long-term they’re hoping Veldheer is a left tackle, and they’re just trying him at center because the only other ones on our roster are so terrible.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:08 am
RaiderO, sorry, but the Huff-to-CB talk just makes no sense. He’s never been a corner. He doesn’t have man coverage skills. He’s a center fielder, and an average-to-slightly-above-average one at that.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Just saw an excerpt from the ESPN “Outside the Lines” interview with Ja-Drank-us. It must have been painful for Colleen Dominiguez to try and decipher his answers, which made NO sense. Dude said he wasn’t even aware of the Raiders’ statement that they did all they could for him, despite the fact that it was on their website and pasted all over every sports media page in the country. First, he said he was under a prescription for codeine, then he admitted that he missed a drug test because he wasn’t in camp in 2007 (makes you think, doesn’t it?), then he said he has only taken codeine once without a prescription and that was three years ago. He also said the Raiders had asked him about drugs before. He thinks he deserves a second chance in the NFL because “I can help a team do, you know … whatever.” I feel sorry for Ja-Drank-us (interview shows on August 22nd) — and WHAT THE HELL WAS HE WEARING? It looked like something confiscated from the Jackson 5 1979 World Tour!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Snb,
our success will be determined by the Oline play. JC is not great. He is competent and that should good enough to get back to respectability. You dont need a great QB to win in this league. You need a good Oline, ground game, solid D and dont turn the ball over.
The current right side of the Oline is unacceptable.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:09 am
lol Preppie.
You have Tom B!! The most overrated QB in the history of the game..
We have Eddie G, C Carter, Tatum….etc PBers & HOFers!!! You have overrated players like Tom & Sir Charles!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:11 am
DHB shoulda came back to the pass on the opening play instead of just waiting for it…thought he was working on that during camp. I thought it was a pick 6 for sure.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:12 am
YA,
It makes a lot of sense since he played CB @ Texas!!
It makes since since has great cover skills!!
The only thing that doesn’t make sense is him playing S since he can’t tackle!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Raiderbone,
I saw the same thing dude and I was so frustrated halfway through it. So glad we dont have to deal with that chytt anymore.
He’s trying to sell himself for a new job and he can’t even do it. Did you see how fat his face is now?
August 13th, 2010 at 10:13 am
MM34 was flying aroung, nice open field hit..
August 13th, 2010 at 10:14 am
What’s with ZMiller coming up short on 2 – 3rd & <10. He needs to run his patterns 2-3 yards deeper on those types of plays.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:15 am
That’s a great idea!!
Let’s put the guy who can’t tackle as our last line of defense!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:16 am
I thought JCampbell’s out route passes need more zip on them. Had he done that, there were at least 3-4 more completions to be had.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:19 am
AIG:
It was a struggle to watch. Colleen even gave Ja-Drank-us an opportunity to “sell himself” to another team and I think he just sold himself straight down the river. He said “Yeah, I can come in and run the scout team; I can do that” (hell, I CAN DO THAT!)
I think I’m probably going to end up draining a whole six-pack when I watch the whole interview — I think I’ll probably have to bring along an interpreter from southern Alabama!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Nick the Quick Miller needs to make this squad. This guy just has the X-factor and has a way of getting things going. He once again demonstrated great hands and outstanding concentration on that TD reception. Now, if he can just stay healthy. He can be our Welker.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am
NMILLER <——- maker….
August 13th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Only problem I see with NMILLER is we have 3 of those types
FORD NMILLER JLH….
August 13th, 2010 at 10:31 am
2 hrs till kickoff…..
August 13th, 2010 at 10:34 am
As I said before!!
Our WRs are:
- Chaz
- DHB
- Murphy
- JLH
- Ford
- Miller
We have enough size on offense that we can afford to have 2 small WRs. JLH is 5′11!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:35 am
At a minimum, I want to see Veldheer at C. The Satele/Morris experiment has failed. Get over it and let’s get the rookie in their with the 1’s. The same holds true for the RG position. Carlisle just no longer has what it takes. BCampbell demonstrated that he’s no worse than Carlisle right now and has too much upside to ignore. The middle of the O-line needs to be able to hold their own. That’s not happening with Satele & Carlisle. Make the change now.
Package a trade deal with Routt & Howard for a starting ORT. If we make these changes we are respectable and VERY competitive this year.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:38 am
# Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Only problem I see with NMILLER is we have 3 of those types
FORD NMILLER JLH….
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Miller has better hands than JLH. I’m also not convinced that JLH has recovered from geting blown-up last year. Haven’t seen enough of Ford to make an assessment. NMiller is #1 in my book for that group. JLH’s best value may be as trade bait.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Agreed on Nick the Quick!
I don’t see Watkins or Figurs making the squad.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:41 am
How did MM34 look last night? I read stats, he lead team in tackles with 4. I won’t see the game until later on today. It will air on NFL network at 3 eastern.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:42 am
We already paid our dues for NMiller by keeping him on the active 53 for 15 weeks when he probably should have been on IR. The coaches must have seen something special in his skill set. I say NMiller ends up being our #3 or #4 WR.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Waddup fellas…
D looked good last night. O will catch on. It’s always like that in preseason, but at least this year, the D-line, really did look legit. DT rotation should be pretty nasty, and our youngsters Bryant, Houston and Shaughnessy are all gonna make a huge splash this year. Mike Waufle is definitely earning his share of Al’s money.
Looking forward to seeing the offense with Schilens and McFadden out there to help open it up
As for the O-line. Gosh Dammit Walker!!! Didn’t look any better than Cornell Green’s weak behind!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:44 am
For all of you who disagree (B), D Jackson is (5′10) & J Maclin is (5′11/ 6′), and they did well as starters!! We have 3 WRs who will start that are over 6′1, and you guys are freaking?!?
Stop freaking out over an inch or 2!! You People!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:46 am
JB,
Need to see a little more of McFadden before we trade Routt, imo. CJ is not playing well enough to get rid of Routt. I don’t recall Routt giving up any completions.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:49 am
JB,
Don’t put too much into preseason performances (positive or negative)….at the end of it all.. the real evaluation has to be based on on-the-field production.
Yesterday, DHB did jack squat and looked like last year.
The other receivers found ways to get the ball including Murphy, JLH, the two Millers and Figures.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Our WR alignment should look like this:
• Chaz/DHB – wideout
• Murphy/JLH – wideout
• NMiller/DMac – slot
• Ford – utility back-up
Chaz needs to be healthy. JLH needs to prove he’s still not Gun shy. DMac needs to be successful at something – #1 RB is not in his future.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:49 am
If Veldheer can perform, may give the Raiders an interesting advantage over other teams in the league. Especially in a 3-4 heavy league, it could be beneficial a big, imposing center that can handle those larger nose tackles.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:49 am
D Jackson!!!
Steve Smith!!
They play outside, they start, and both are under 5′10!!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Raider O,
Here are the receivers based on production:
1. Louis Murphy
2. Johnnie Lee Higgins
3. Nick Miller
4. Jacoby Ford
5. DHB
6. Chaz Schilens is always injured.
I am getting tired of wishing upon a star. Just get the players on the field that make catches and actually play in games (preseason or regular season)
We have no more time to hand hold this thing. REceivers catch the ball. That is the #1 responsibility…not decoys, not on IR, not potential…at some point we just need guys that will catch 3 or 4 balls a game.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:52 am
BC and V should start.
DHB and McFadden should be waived.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I love this huge rookie center ,(# 68 Jared Veldheer) the Raiders have. It would be a dream to have this behemoth of a center become a SUPERCENTER. He can readily move the defensive line off the ball. I am going to keep my eye on this development.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I like your WR depth Chart O …
I might move a couple of the smaller guys up it though instead of having them 4, 5, and 6.
August 13th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I hope Ford gets healthy soon, I want to see what he can do.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:00 am
J,
It’s not in order bro.
I would have Chaz, Murphy, DHB, and JLH play outside!! Miller, Ford, and DMC in the Slot!
Btw, I was LMAO yesterday!!! That was funny!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Later Raiders; got to get ready to watch the game.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:02 am
4:47 left in the fourth quarter.
Is he going to do it?
Time-out coordinator makes his move.
Perfect pitch and cadence!
Time-out Raiders!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Not sure what Jacoby Ford has produced to warrant him being on the field.
Chaz was just held out, being brought alond slowly. He practiced last week.
I think Nick the Quick or JLH needs to be on the field all the time. I’d go with the 3 WR set. One of those guys needs to crack the top 3.
I don’t like DHB and Murphy on the field at the same time in a 2 wr set. Not productive at all.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:03 am
I can’t agree with you guys about V. I agree that he looks good, but playing C!! The guy can help us at RT more than C IMO!!
We have 2 rookies with size, played OT (LT) at college, and they play G & C!!
It’s a waste of Talent to have Campbell play G!!!
You are on thin ice Fat Monkey!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:04 am
At O’Hare airport, I think this is where Puffy did that music video with all the lights. Soon as I went over the ramp on the moving walkway I knew I seen the lights before.
Valdheer should get some run with at least the two’s, but do you sacrifice stunting Campbell’s growth by changing his center in the preseason? Tough call.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:05 am
So much for power running with Hue, huh?
We might be in the top 10 in pass attempts this year.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:06 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Not sure what Jacoby Ford has produced to warrant him being on the field.
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Uh… he’s a football player? And the Raiders drafted him? What did Louis Murphy produce to warrant him getting on the field as a rookie?
Early reports from camp were that Ford looked more polished as a receiver than anyone thought he would be. He’s missed some time with a tight hamstring, but it would nice to see him healthy and get him back on the field.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I can nderstand the moves if we had solid starters at LT, C, RG, and RT. We don’t!! We need a LT to compete with Mario. we need a RG and a RT, but we have V play C!!
Play V at RT!! 6′8 & strong!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I think it would be great to see Veldheer get a crack at RT, but the Raiders’ coach staff haven’t even tried him there.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:12 am
JLH playing with the 5th string in the 4th quarter was interesting.
And Mike Bush on punt coverage units? WTF is Cable thinking with that one?
August 13th, 2010 at 11:13 am
“Its preliminary but is Oaklands ambitious offensive line scheme on the right track or will it continue to bring…
“Woe to the O?”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
August 13th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Nice performance by the D-line, but just remember that if there is one weakness to the Cowboys it is their shaky o-line, so let’s just see how our D-line does throughout the preseason.
Our o-line is very bad. So very bad. F it, might as well put the rookies in at C and RG…can’t be any worse than Satele and Cooper. And re-sign Cornbread Green, at least that douche can run block.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Michael Bush was on punt coverage? No way, really? That’s just plain dumb.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:16 am
O,
Henderson looked pretty good at LT yesterday and we know that Gallery is solid.
Biggest question marks on the Oline are C and RG. Satele and Carlisle get moved around like rag dolls. Their technique is to get in the way instead of attacking attacking their man.
Walker or Barnes should be able to handle RT.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Understand*
August 13th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I can nderstand the moves if we had solid starters at LT, C, RG, and RT. We don’t!! We need a LT to compete with Mario. we need a RG and a RT, but we have V play C!!
Play V at RT!! 6′8 & strong!!
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Centers the most important position in the ZBS and Satele ain’t it.
Several guys with experience could play RT in theory (Barnes, Walker) but to get a guy trained up to play C makes sense and could get Veld in the mix sooner rather than later.
Remember, Veld came from Div II Hillsdale and has never consistently faced top flight competetion in college let alone the pros.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:16 am
297. Word J wig
August 13th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Bruce Campbell looked good in the second half, but him and his unit was not looking very good in the second quarter.
That goalline sequence with Boller in the game was comical. False-starts, everybody getting blown up, holding calls. Yikes!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Gotta give Coach Cable credit for challenging that dumb call, and calling a time out under five minutes, trying to give Kyle and Co. a shot at the win.
Too bad Swayze got knocked by that illegal hit, judging by his missed FG attempt – I’d say he needs the reps.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
FB looked pretty weak last night too…
It might be a long year on O this season with these WRs, that QB and that o-line…I think Campbell can be okay, but he needs decent WRs and a good o-line so that he can get the pass out…he doesn’t seem to make quick decisions…guess that was his problem in Washington too…
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
YA,
Exactly bro, why not?!?!?
You are on thin ice Fat Monkey!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Very first punt of the game, I saw him out there. Don’t know why, or if he did more than once.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:03 am
It’s a waste of Talent to have Campbell play G!!!
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Not even sure if he’s even a football player at this point let alone a starting tackle in the NFL.
Cable thinks moving him inside will give him help,let him use his physical gifts and get him in the game faster.
Campbell is the first one to admit he is struggling at this levle right now.
I think the kids got maybe 17 starts in his life?
He’s a real project…
August 13th, 2010 at 11:20 am
J,
I’m not sold on Walker or Barnes at RT!! I can live with Campbell playing G, but V needs to play RT IMHO.
We should trade for C & FB ASAP!! Trade with the Jets!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Lakota Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
FB looked pretty weak last night too…
It might be a long year on O this season with these WRs, that QB and that o-line…I think Campbell can be okay, but he needs decent WRs and a good o-line so that he can get the pass out…he doesn’t seem to make quick decisions…guess that was his problem in Washington too…
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If we do struggle and J Campbell is ineffective does that mean we give Jamarcass a break?
NOOOOOOOO!!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Nnamdi,
I agree with what you and J are saying, but why draft 2 LTs to play them at G & C?!?!? We could have drafted a G & C!!
That’s it!! The ice Broke!!
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:22 am
307. I’m interested to see how Alex Daniels will do at FB. Not sure Oakladns ready to spring that one on the NFL until the regs…
Did he play FB last night?
Have to watch that when it comes on here in an hour…
August 13th, 2010 at 11:22 am
We should trade for C & FB ASAP!! Trade with the Jets!!
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I was thinking that. If we could snag Mangold and Tony Richardson for Thomas Howard and some draft picks? Could be well worth it.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:23 am
YA,
I like what I’ve read about Ford, but we were talking about actual production. We’ve seen JLH, Miller, and some of those other guys actually play in preseason and regular season games.
Based on what actually happened on the game, JLH, Miller, and Figurs actually produced. I don’t doubt that Ford will be able to produce, but as of now he hasn’t.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:24 am
309. Could be Raider O. I’m not sure who was avail at G and C at those points in the draft…
Cable’s supposed to be the O line guru, but frankly man, so far in Raider town he hasn’t been…
August 13th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Lakota Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:17 am
FB looked pretty weak last night too…
It might be a long year on O this season with these WRs, that QB and that o-line…I think Campbell can be okay, but he needs decent WRs and a good o-line so that he can get the pass out…he doesn’t seem to make quick decisions…guess that was his problem in Washington too…
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If we do struggle and J Campbell is ineffective does that mean we give Jamarcass a break?
NOOOOOOOO!!!!
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lol, I already said maybe Russell indulged in the Purple BECAUSE of his schytty o-line (and bad WRs)!
In all seriousness, Russell was just a POS that didn’t put forth effort. No matter how Campbell plays, at least he is busting his butt trying to make the team and himself better.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Guys, enjoy the win and have a great day! Raiders!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Draft C Dan Wenger in the 2nd or 3rd round next season…
August 13th, 2010 at 11:26 am
314. Lak,
Did you see that interview with Russell saying he failed a drug test after the draft in 2007?!
Codiene…
Now he’s got one of his dirt bag homies takin the bullet for him on the purple drank they arrested him for.
Looooooooow….
August 13th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Nnamdi,
That what I’m saying. The OL Gurue has a bad OL, can’t call plays, and he likes Soft Camps and practice!!
I’m done with Cable!!!
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
Later Gents.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Nnam,
I haven’t seen that interview yet…Outside the Lines right?
I’ll try and catch it today.
What else are flunkies for…of course he should take the bullet for his Cash Cow! Russell will reward him with gallons of the Purple when he is paroled!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:32 am
I seen Morris get dominated to often at center. setele is ok. I feel Veldeer can open up some holes right in the middle of defense and Bush reads a up front push quite well.I am saying it will be a good time to see if he can help in the run first philosophy. This will keep J. Campbell risk at a minimum.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:24 am
309. Could be Raider O. I’m not sure who was avail at G and C at those points in the draft…
Cable’s supposed to be the O line guru, but frankly man, so far in Raider town he hasn’t been…
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In 2007 when Cable was just the o-line coach we were great and Cable was a legend…then he Kwame Harrised us and then he Sateled us and Kahlifed us.
Cable should be allowed to do one job in the NFL; coach the o-line that others bring in for him.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:34 am
john er i mean bhp,
why do you feel the need to speak as if you are not just a fan, like you have some personal relationship with al and you need to call him mr.davis. and the constant repeating of the team mr. davis has put together. al has put together lots of teams to be sure everyone of them is his team, but he doesn’t win every year and has been downright horrible some years. ths points to coach cable going in the direction he is and building a team concept and not just an athlete getting paid which has been hallmark in so many of mr davis’ teams. takes two to tango and al can’t win all by himself, he might be able to lose all by himself if what sapp says is true about game plans being thrown out on friday and new ones not practiced in.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:37 am
JRuss interview:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5460278
August 13th, 2010 at 11:40 am
what kinda call was that on 4th and 1…a pass to Z. Miller lined up wide….bad call Hue!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Nnamdi,
I agree with what you and J are saying, but why draft 2 LTs to play them at G & C?!?!? We could have drafted a G & C!!
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Raider O, you know better than to question this. The Raider draft philosophy is to draft the athlete and then find a way to fit him in. At least half the players they draft get slotted into a new position.
Veldheer is our Center of the Future and Campbell our Right Guard. Hope Veldheer can get up to speed being the QB of the O-Line…better know line calls and audibles too.
Better get used to dealing with 300+ players as opposed to 250 to 270lb players you typically get on the outside
August 13th, 2010 at 11:43 am
was that russell interview about russell or about the raiders?
August 13th, 2010 at 11:46 am
#324, the Raiders were trying plays out and I think it is a good time to do such a thing. I feel the Raiders should line up Z. miller one on one with certain linebackers. Z. Miller has the skills to beat most one on one coverage.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Re that 4th and 1 play, Satele and Carlisle need to work on getting push. Would’ve been a perfect scenario to pound the ball for a 1st down. Not like we have that down at all.
Didn’t like the play call at all in that situation. Another situation, all day, but not there.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Dr. Jerry Buss to the HOF.
Come on Dr. Buss, buy the Raiders and move them back to LA. Buss would hire a good GM and then he knows to get the F out of the way…until a FA QB needs wooed into coming to the Raiders.
Oh, one can dream!
August 13th, 2010 at 11:56 am
The interview was about Russell, who ever his PR person was they should be shot. Not that I am into helping a dumb @$$ like Russell. It did nothing to help his case it only made him look worse. Why you would go public and say I tested positive in 2007 w/ a case pending and say it was your friends is beyond me. Russell was at the house, it was in his bed room, he said it was his kool aid(dumb a$$)but his friend pured it, and you are coming out to say you have used it before. Keep in mind this is supose to be a guy serious about getting another contract w/ a NFL team. The Raiders were right for letting him go, he is no professional, he does not get it. A team would have to be on codine to keep this guy.
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Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:43 am
was that russell interview about russell or about the raiders?
August 13th, 2010 at 11:57 am
re 327: maybe on 3rd and short, but 4th n 1? I just didn’t like it at all.
August 13th, 2010 at 11:58 am
i dont think he has a PR guy…anyone that associates with him loses instant credibility. He’s a nightmare!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
COuld not agree more J Wiggs. I would have prefered to see that practiced even more before it counts. If you were going to do a trick play do a pitch from the shot gun to Nick Miller or Bush. Somethign Wild Cat tricky. What a waste of play.
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J Wiggle Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Re that 4th and 1 play, Satele and Carlisle need to work on getting push. Would’ve been a perfect scenario to pound the ball for a 1st down. Not like we have that down at all.
Didn’t like the play call at all in that situation. Another situation, all day, but not there.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Did Cable ever say JR was the reason we did not make the playoffs last year?
JR’s interview seems “conflicted”. Yes he did purple syrup but it had nothing to do with his poor performance?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Did Cable ever say JR was the reason we did not make the playoffs last year?
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At the end of year press conference (one I had hoped would be Cable’s last with the raiders) I believe a reporter asked if Cable thought they would have made the playoffs with better play from the QB position, and Cable said “You know we would have” or something to that affect.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I think we need to give up our 2nd rounder for J Gaither from Baltimore…he could play LT or RT for us and make us much much better.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
isn’t he injured Lakota?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
“The Raiders were this close to having an outstanding season. When I say “this close” imagine me holding a picture of JaMarcus Russell, because it was pretty much all his fault that they didn’t. It sure wasn’t Tom Cable’s doing!
Oakland is 5-10 right now, which is just a shade shy of lousy, but three of those wins came after former No. 1 holdout Russell was benched in favor of a couple of chumps. Sensing a pattern, San Jose Mercury News columnist Tim Kawakami asked their head coach at a press conference, “If the Raiders had gotten average to above-average quarterback play this year, do you think you’d be competing for a playoff spot right now?” (Which is sort of like asking, “If your team wasn’t terrible, would they be good?”) Cable’s response:
“Without even asking that question,” Cable said with a tight grin, “you know we would have.”
Get that? All that was standing between the Raiders and the playoffs was a lack of “above-average quarterback play.” Simple as that. Yet, Cable is the head coach and offensive coordinator, so surely he could have done something to improve that quarterback play, right? Kawakami also asked the coach to grade his own performance in that area.
“I think at times an exceptional job and at times an average job,” Cable said.
So if I’m following correctly, Tom Cable did a (at times!) exceptional job coaching his below-average quarterbacks to their below-average performances. He’s not saying it’s definitely JaMarcus Russell’s fault that the Raiders stink … but we sure as hell know it wasn’t Tom Cable’s fault. You know what they say: Sometimes a great carpenter just has lousy tools.”
lmao
August 13th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Russell had trouble interpreting the questions being asked. He is a bafoon. Good riddance. He robbed the Raiders and its fans. Screw him!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Wow, Gaither has been out with back problems….okay, trade a 4th and 6th for him lol.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I think coaches should NEVER KICK a FG when you have a solid kicker like we do in the pre-season. waste of time and play.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
JaWalrus-
“I could have been the worst in the universe….”
You were the worst in the universe you f-in moron.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Captain & CJ point taken and repected. I do feel different about trying plays out at odd time during preseason. I actually don’t like when sit on the ball and run out the clock in preseason when I can watch more rookie playing time.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
aig-raiders Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I think coaches should NEVER KICK a FG when you have a solid kicker like we do in the pre-season. waste of time and play.
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AIG, but it is not all about the kicker on a FG attempt is it? Maybe the idea is to have that entire unit get a feel for game-like kicks before the regular season?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I am watching Hot Tub Time Machine on my computer right now….funny schyt!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I saw a small part of the JR interview.
He is a spoiled little boy in an NFL QB body.
Immature in all his ways
August 13th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Trade DMAC for some lousy tools!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
What the hell, time to go home…I am out.
Have a nice weekend! Everyone hope and pray we somehow get a miracle cure to our RT, RG and C problems!
August 13th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
If this first “practice” is any indication (and that can be debated), we may be in for another painful season as Raider fans.
For all this talk of how great the D-line was, Tony Romo sliced up our secondary in that first drive (Chris Johnson, I’m looking at you).
I am 100% sure that we have the WORST recieving corps in the league. DHB still looks like an amateur out there, Murphy is our best WR, but still only a 2nd year guy with marginal technique and I don’t think Schilens will be in the NFL much longer (that bad foot will continue to haunt him).
The running game looked decent, but we all know that teams will key on that in the regular season, then Cable will give up on the running game too early, force passes to our amateur hour recievers, and once again Zach Miller will be the only offensive threat on our team.
Optimism: Houston looked good at DE, this little experiment might actually work. Goethel looks like a PLAYER, they need to start thinking about how to get him on the field this season. Veldheer at Center could be exciting; did you see that QB sneak that Boller did on 4th and 1? Veldheer tunneled his way about 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. Bush looks ready to go as the primary back, put DMC in the slot already. Campbell is an upgrade from Russell, but it may take him a game or two, just to pull even with Gradkowski circa last season.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Why do you want the Raiders in Los Angeles, Lakota?
August 13th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Problem is, Jerry Buss is an old goat too.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
The defense looked impressive yesterday but I’ve seen this before. For some reason, we seem to just hit a wall at some point. Call Sapp a liar, but if he’s telling the truth that’s one reason for it. Another reason could just be lack of practice. Whatever the case, hopefully the Raiders are doing something different now where every day routine is concerned than they were in recent years when we saw decent defensive play out of the defense early on, only to see it crumble later in the year.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Sorry for the redundant use of “defense” derivatives in one sentence…
August 13th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
BBB, a better gameplan around our green receivers would help, too. I guarantee you someone like, yes, cringe all you want, Gruden would get production out of this offense. He would. Like it or not. He’d figure out which routes these junior receivers tend to do better at, he’d figure out ways to draw defenders away from them to give them space. We just don’t have that kind of attention to detail in our offensive staff, at least I didn’t see it yesterday, for those of you about to say “Hue”.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I dont know if Gruden or anyone could gameplan around the recievers to make them better, but I can say with confidence that if we had gotten Crabtree last season, he would be our #1 reciever by leaps and bounds right now.
Al places so much focus on speed, that he never sees another quantifiable athletic ability, which is just as important (if not more): Body Control. All of our recievers can fly down the field, make the easy catch if they are wide open, then have the wiggle for some YAC, but they lack the body control to make the tough catches in traffic, along the sideline, while being covered, etc. It is so plain to see, when you watch them up against a guy like Miles Austin. He made some catches in situations last night where, a Raider WR dropped it, or positioned themselves so poorly that the DB actually had the better play on the ball.
I fear that our offense will continue to be “Keystone Cops-esque” until Hue Jackson can have some say in personnel acquisition, and that could be never.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I know it’s only preseason, but so far Hue Jackson gets a “D”. Why not make adjustments that will just move the chains and give the offense a jolt of confidence? And, a lot of those players, I’m telling you….had the bed and breakfast written all over it. 10 yard sideline comebacks? I know it’s preseason. But I didn’t see the Pats or NO running leather helmet plays yesterday. Hue Jackson is supposed to be state of the art, up there with the better OC’s of the game. I saw the same ol’ Raider O last night with the first stringers.
August 13th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Its about a lot more then fixing the O line.
Fix the oline and Nnamdi & Mclain go down. You are still screwed.
Its about having quality depth to go with playmakers. A lot of teams go deep in the playoffs and some even make the SB with crappy olines.
Same with having a crappy defense. If you have playmakers on O and thats what Al has been working on you can go to the big game. Especially if you have a history of playing in the SB. And the Raiders have that. I think only 4 teams have made it to as many SB’s as we have
Coach them up, no knuckleheads, draft smart and pray injuries go to another team.
I am looking for improvement in all phases. Lets be competitve and not a joke. Lets go 8-8 and be respectable in every game. Thats what is important to me this year. Sure I want to go 10-6 and make the playoffs but theres another 31 teams with the same aspirations and most of them are doing everything they can to kick butt.
Al knows how to build SB teams and I will put my money on him before anyone else.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Yes, Crabtree. Then imagine if we take Peterson in ‘07 as Kiffin reportedly wanted to. But, Al’s still sharp. that’s what his supporters say. And you’re not a Raider fan if you don’t believe it, I guess.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
have you guys seen the movie ‘Big Fan’?
August 13th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Imagine if lance kitten could pull the lottery numbers out his arse. He would be megarich and he could quit coaching. Then you could move to the bahamas with him gnaw on his sack forever and a day.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Hue gets a D
Lance created the universe
Al stole my lunch money
sniffle, sniffle
If there is a bigger crybay in the world then meltdownraider then I will eat a barrel cactus
August 13th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Clayton just said Dez Bryant will solve the O problem.
Wait untill he gets the living daylights smacked out of him 10 times a game. Then we will know something about the flashy rookie with a bad attitude
No knuckleheads
August 13th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Trade DMAC for a barrel cactus!
August 13th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
thats an insult to the barrel cactus
August 13th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
# Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
have you guys seen the movie ‘Big Fan’?
………….
Yes. There was somebody in here the other day talking about DMac responding to him on twitter. Sounded like Paul.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
A barrel cactus would be MUCH harder to tackle.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
RMR, LMAO….good stuff….that movie was funny as shyyyt
August 13th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
A barrel cactus would be MUCH harder to tackle.
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And would likely hold on to the ball better too, albeit deflated.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Pittsburgh Steroid Users 6-1
San Francisco 69ers 5-0
Dallas Cowvag’s 5-3
Green Bay Whackers 3-1
New York Ants 3-1
Oakland F N Raiders 3-2
Washington Deadskins 3-2
New England Cheaters 3-3
Baltimore Bolts 2-2
Miami Tunas 2-3
Milelow cheating Donkeys 2-4
Baltimore Scum 1-0
The Other NY Team 1-0
Tampa Bay Gay Pirates 1-0
New Orleans Aints 1-0
Chicago Gangsters 1-1
Kansas City Teepees 1-1
LA Lambs 1-2
Minnesota Lakers 0-4
Buffalo Losers 0-4
Philadelphia Hoodlums 0-2
Cincinnati Bungals 0-2
Houston Oil Derricks 0-1
Seattle Pigeons 0-1
Tijuana DonkeyShow Discharge 0-1
Carolina Tabbycats 0-1
Atlanta DirtyBirds 0-1
Arizona Hummingbirds 0-1
August 13th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
So 4 teams have been to more SB’s then us
Three teams have more VL’s then we do.
Not too shabby
August 13th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
So the only owner with more is Rooney?
August 13th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
So it’s August.
I’m sitting here in England and the weather over the last four weeks has been unimpressive.
I mean, we actually had the central heating on this evening.
I need to be in the middle of the Mohave Desert.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Al Davis was a great owner until about the mid ’80s.
August 13th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Watched the Raider/Dallas game on NFL Game Pass and the announcers were the Dallas crew-Babe and Bill.
These guys are hopeless.
Lots of anti-Raider crap just for the hell of it.
And forget about naming any Raider players when they make a good play. Really unprofessional with the color guy being worse that the play-by-play guy.
I really wanted to jump into the screen and jam my remote down their throats.
As an SF Giant fan, I can watch Vin Scully call a game anytime.
THESE guys, forget it, I just wanted to go looking for that old M16 I used to have-just to clean it of course.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
The defense looked much better in this game
Jason Campbell looked pretty much like he did in Washington–which still makes him five times better than Russell.
Let’s face it, our biggest problem is the OL wich is the same except for Langston.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
re: “the coaching staff saw something in Nick Miller last year” comments
Hue Jackson runs the offense. he wasn’t here last year, therefore didn’t advocate the 15 Week love-affair or scholarship. He’s done nothing in regular season games. hasn’t even been active for any
he didn’t enter the game last night until the 4th quarter, as a receiver or return man … was behind Watkins, Higgins, Figurs and even Bodiford
had 2 passes thrown his way. 1 was incomplete and the other one was a gift from the refs. Even Jwigg (his biggest supporter) ruled it out! his single return opportunity was a fair catch
to think he’s a lock at this point = silly
August 13th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Mr: Al Davis IS and ALWAYS will be be a great owner-and you damn well know it.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
what constitutes a great owner?
August 13th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Englandraider…
Vin Scully is a god.
80 years old and he still does the entire Dodger broadcast BY HIMSELF!
August 13th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
4:20 in Podunk. later gents
have a great/safe weekend!
August 13th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Kirk:
Vin Scully is a God?
Nah, when it come to sports play-by-play Bill KIng and Lon Simmons are that category but Vin Scully is exceptionally good.
At 80 and still doing that he IS amazing also.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Jason Campbell ran a very basic passing game last night. It wasn’t designed to show off what he could do as much as it was allow the coaches to see players they wanted to see. The first two preseason games are just shell games nothing special. What I wanted to seee was his command and leadership and pocket presence. He got high marks in every regard IMO. As the preaseason moves on you wnat to see his ability to handle the playbook and is the timing down with all principle parties that should become more evident by the 3rd preseason game. But as far as a fine tuned pasing game I don’t expect to see that this year at all. They just have way to much to put together with a team this young over the next 3 years or so we should see very good football out of this bunch. But to expect that this year I think is unrealistic.
However based on what I saw from the defense which I expected we can win a lot of games by playing smart tough trench warfare football. Same as last night.
With the speed we have outside teams cannot stack the box. DHB and others aren’t polished recievers but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to cover them. Bennett is a very good 3rd RB and rock is a tough inside runner, I’d like to keep both of them. But IMO just run the rock if they load up send it deep and keep moving the chains with the short to intermediate stuff.
It aint rocket science. Do what works and get great at it.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
So JR tested positive for codiene in his rookie year but he didnt have a drug problem.
Was this already discussed earlier?
I have not been able to read todays chat.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
watch how we play in the 49er game that will be the closest thing to what we are capable of offensively. The niners have a very good defense if we handle it you’ll know. Only starters vs starters
August 13th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Mr: Al Davis IS and ALWAYS will be be a great owner-and you damn well know it.
……..
No great owner has as bad of a run as Al Davis is in right now.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Trade DMAC for Vin Scully!
August 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
priest, I saw the some old Raiders’ offense last night. I think Hue’s a puppet.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Either that or Hue sucks. Take your pick.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Preseason games do not prove much of anything.
You could argue one way or the other untill you are blue in the face but it will still come down to a 50-50 shot.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
To me, if you had to pick one criterion for defining a great owner it would be HOF membership.
The next best criterion would be championship trophies. Only the Rooneys have more than Mr. Davis.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
You’re right Plunketthead.
The only thing that pre-season games prove is that my television still works.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Bo Jax,
Are you saying Al Davis is CURRENTLY a great owner?
August 13th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
The offense I am watching right now looks no different than it did last year. Same plays, same scrub players. The Raiders have 2 guys on offense that would even rate as “good” NFL players.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I think you’re a puppet.
August 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
The Raiders wont win more than 6 games this year. That is a fact. The Raiders losing 10 or 11 games is becoming almost as automatic as death and taxes.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Dude Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Bo Jax,
Are you saying Al Davis is CURRENTLY a great owner?
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Hard to say. Thats like saying, is Michael Jordan CURRENTLY the best ever bball player?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
If you compare this this list to the one I posted earlier you will see that no AFL team has won more SB’s then the Oakland Raiders.
One AFL team won three games but they cheated like the big chowders they are. One other team close but they cheated as well.
Bottom Line = Raiders rule
The NFL-AFL merger occurred in 1970.
The teams in the NFL for the 1969 season were:
Dallas Cowboys
Washington Redskins
New Orleans Saints
Philadelphia Eagles
Los Angeles Rams
Baltimore Colts
Atlanta Falcons
San Francisco 49ers
Cleveland Browns
New York Giants
St. Louis Cardinals
Pittsburgh Steelers
Minnesota Vikings
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears
The teams in the AFL for the 1969 season were:
New York Jets
Houston Oilers
Boston Patriots
Buffalo Bills
Miami Dolphins
Oakland Raiders
Kansas City Chiefs
San Diego Chargers
Denver Broncos
Cincinnati Bengals
August 13th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
He is a great owner, but currently far from his prime.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Mike Jordan is retired. It is not like saying that at all. Al Davis is still the owner of the Raiders. At this moment is Al Davis a great owner? I dont give a flying funk about 20 years ago.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
based on that criteria, it doesnt matter what Al does from here on out then? Him being a great owner is etched in stone is what it sounds like.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Plunkett,
How many years have gone by since the Raiders have won a Superbowl?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
If the Raider O is no better than last year, I would agree. 6 wins.
It’s awfully early in the Pre-Season. In spite of the crappy O line, I think we still have more going for us this season offensivley, than last.
If the O can get to 20th in the league, I think this team could go 8-8.
If everything falls perfectly, 10-6.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
The odds have always been stacked against Al and his great team but he is a pitbull. He is ferocius? and determined and he never backs down from a fight.
He will have the Raiders back on top in two years, thre tops.
Long live Al!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
MR: When you become Dude, do your other pesonalities know?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Fire The Fat Monkey!!!!
-He kicked a FG with 2:24 in 4th Q in PreSason to win the game?!?!?!?
Did we need to kick a FG with Jano, or should we have practiced going for it?!?!?!?
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
you play to win the game!
hopefully it’s not like Art Shell II….4-0 in pre-season only go 2-14 when it counts….UGH!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Odds have been stacked against Al? WTF? LOL!
He is ferocious and never backs down from a fight? LOL!
Why wont you answer a simple question Plunkett?…..How long has it been??
August 13th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
the only thing ferocious about Al is his flatulence
August 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Yo Raider O,
We can’t fire the Fat Monkey.
The players love the Monkey.
The Monkey is smart like a fox.
Monkey kept His job.
Monkey got players it wanted.
Monkey good.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
RMR,
Gruden Sucks!!! He lost in the POs (with Raiders), won a SB with Tony’s team, won a SB because he played US, he doesn’t have an eye for talent, likes old vets, and now he is unemployed!!!!!!!!!!
Your Hero is an overrated QB coach!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable will be fired by week 6.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Monkey see, monkey do!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
The odds have always been stacked against Al and his great team but he is a pitbull. He is ferocius? and determined and he never backs down from a fight.
He will have the Raiders back on top in two years, thre tops.
……………
So, 10 years in the cellar. Ouch.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
LMAO Len!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
You know its football season as soon as Raider O shows up with his completely moronic posts. Long live the King of Stupidville, Raider O!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
The only good Monkey is a Zoo Monkey!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
RMR,
Gruden Sucks!!! He lost in the POs (with Raiders), won a SB with Tony’s team, won a SB because he played US, he doesn’t have an eye for talent, likes old vets, and now he is unemployed!!!!!!!!!!
…………….
Al Davis would have been unemployed 20 years ago if he wasn’t an owner, and he’s running our team now. I’ll take the guy who at least got the game a decade ago over the guy who lost touch in the ’80s.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
RMR,
Gruden Sucks!!! He lost in the POs (with Raiders), won a SB with Tony’s team, won a SB because he played US, he doesn’t have an eye for talent, likes old vets, and now he is unemployed!!!!!!!!!!
Your Hero is an overrated QB coach!!!
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I like John Gruden.
He, Bruce Allen and Al Davis TOGETHER brought the Raiders back to respectablility.
But I agree that he relied on veterans (his right)if he can win that battle with AL, but his eye for talent, I think could be questioned.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Madden,
Come on homie. DO NOT justify Raider O as a legit poster by responding to him.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Well take him and get lost
August 13th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Priest,
Wheres your boy Russell playing these days?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Len,
Yes it is, and Al is the Zookeeper!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
with you
August 13th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
“a legit poster” ! Now that’s effin funny!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
But Priest, you claimed Russell wouldnt be on the open market more than an hour if he was to be cut….. What gives bud?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Len,
He was too conservative in the offense and his play calling. Also, look at the players he drafted when he was the HC for TB.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Len,
He was too conservative in the offense and his play calling. Also, look at the players he drafted when he was the HC for TB.
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I agree. I still like the guy though.
I hated the 3rd and 7 call where he’d call a pass to the fullback to gain 5 yards.
All coaches have their warts however.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Dude, I think life is too short too waste time worrying about Al’s head
He is the boss
He loves the Raiders (just like TC)
Yes he runs the team the way he wants to
Yes he has always been a rebel(thats one reason I like him)
Yes, he does crazy things
Yes, he is a stubborn arse
Nonehteless I would be hard pressed to pick two owners who would do a better job and I think Vegas odds are about 20/80 the team will ever achieve greatness after Al leaves
I accept those facts
I choose to be positive every year
I have faith in the Raiders.
I like wearing my Raider shirt when we win or lose
Both start good conversations
And I worked two jobs for two years so i could afford Direct TV and I GET EVERY RAIDER GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will root for the Raiders from Al down to the waterboy
August 13th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
England,
I’m legit!! Too legit to quit!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
His problem not mine…………….I couldn’t care less.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Jamarcus is a mess.
If he hadn’t won the lottery, I might sympathize.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Talking Monkey,
What gives?!? He is in court fighting charges for drug abuse!!
You are too stupid!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
How can you tell if a woman is wearing pantyhose?
When she farts, her ankles all swell up.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Len,
He was too conservative in the offense and his play calling.
……………
You don’t even know what you’re talking about. ONLY Raider fans say this. Nobody else, anywhere, says that about Gruden. He’s often criticized for his relationships with players, the yelling and what not. But only Raider fans think he’s too conservative.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Priest,
I know its his problem, not yours. But YOU were the one who claims to be some sort of guru. And YOU are the one who laughed at anyone who said he would be cut and proclaimed over and over how teams would be lined up at his door to sign him if he were cut.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Plunkett,
How many years?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Russell is one of the most talented QB I”ve ever seen if that doesn’t mean anything to him. Why should I give a damn.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I choose to be positive every year
…………
I’m positive too. I think we can win 9 games if Al never once intervenes with ANYTHING, all year.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
O:
I didn’t mean YOU are not legit. I just meant it was a stupid thing for MR (as Dude) to say.
I mean, come on! He’s not even “a legit poster”!
That’s funny.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
lol @ “it’s his problem, not mine”. Wow. There’s a way to bail out of a prediction.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Len,
Gruden is a good coach, but RMR takes it too far IMO. I don’t agree with RMR on how good Gruden was/ is, but I agree that he can do better than Cable!!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
MR
get a clue and jump………..off a ledge.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RMR, If it is “all Raider fans”, I’d say that they had a large enough sample size of his work to come to that conclusion.
It might be that those that do not follow the Raiders closely, wouldn’t care or actually know, what Gruden did on any given Sunday.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Some idle thoughts after just watching the game. The O is not moving the ball at all, vanilla, and read all day. The D is gonna gel and wake people up. MM34 was either in or very near every play in his series, read field well, start him. Even our rookies play well, never did the O or the D give up during this game, shows character, I’m impressed. Cable needs to get off his azz and get the O team together and moving the chains or be done with him and get someone in who will. The WR’s do not seperate, the Q is not looking the whole field, that new kid has ballz, and stood up, keep him. All of them.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Len,
Gruden is a good coach, but RMR takes it too far IMO. I don’t agree with RMR on how good Gruden was/ is, but I agree that he can do better than Cable!!
…………
Oh, I thought he was too conservative? Now you’ll take him?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Len,
Gruden is a good coach, but RMR takes it too far IMO. I don’t agree with RMR on how good Gruden was/ is, but I agree that he can do better than Cable!!
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Raider O,
At this point it’s documented that The Trio of Gruden, Allen and Davis were better than anything that cable has done thus far.
Have a little faith in the Monkey.
Let’s see how the season goes.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Dude
The two jobs is an inside joke
August 13th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RMR, If it is “all Raider fans”, I’d say that they had a large enough sample size of his work to come to that conclusion.
It might be that those that do not follow the Raiders closely, wouldn’t care or actually know, what Gruden did on any given Sunday.
…………
Gruden was in Tampa longer than Oakland, NOBODY over there says he’s too conservative, fans, commentators, writers, nobody. No national t.v. or radio analysts say it, former players or otherwise. The only people who say that Gruden is too conservative are Raider fans. Raider fans think any offensive playcaller that doesn’t go deep every 3 plays is too conservative.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
If the Monkey don’t Blitz, can his azz.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
And bring back Gruden…..
August 13th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
A guy goes into a bar and asks the bartender for three shots of Jack Daniels and three beers.
He looks at them all on the bar and then drinks them all real fast.
Guy says: I shouldn’t be drinking all that.
Bartender says: Why not?
Guy says: Because I’ve only got a nickel.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Gruden is too conservative for Al Davis and the Raider culture, basically. That’s a better way of putting it. He’s not too conservative by NFL standards. Gruden was far more successful in his post Raider career in the NFL than anyone who was with the Raiders for that time span, so that should tell you which standard is more credible.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
You left out a pence, more or less
August 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
If only Raiders Fans think he is too conservative, then what does that make you?! Aren’t you a Raiders fan too?!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Watching the game… Huff looks constantly out of position in the passing game. He was better about that last season, hopefully he doesn’t regress this season.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Gruden thinks on his feet, didn’t listen to AD, add it up
August 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Young, he had some good tackles
August 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
We should all pitch in 50 cent and but meltdown a present
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August 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
If only Raiders Fans think he is too conservative, then what does that make you?! Aren’t you a Raiders fan too?!
……………….
Good point, O. Let me rephrase. Only dumb Raider fans think Gruden’s too conservative.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Russell is one of the most talented QB I”ve ever seen if that doesn’t mean anything to him. Why should I give a damn.
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Priest, I rarely take issue with you because it would be piling on BUT, JaLoser as the most talented? I know better. For two reasons. First we’ve had a number of Raider QB’s with far more talent and secondly, he’s NOT talented in any stretch of the imagination. Strong arm – yes! Other than that, NADA. Not very bright, slow in execution, no touch on his passes, inaccurate, no pocket presence, no leadership skills or abilities, need I go on? This guy is/was an ignorant bum, plain & simple. I give you more credit than to tie your wagon to his falling star. JaLoser has nowhere to go but down. Bank on it.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Young, he had some good tackles
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He’s definitely better at choosing his angles of pursuit than he was a few years ago, that’s for sure. But he seems a little soft against the pass…
August 13th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
England,
I was joking bro. I couldn’t help myself!
Legit! LOL
August 13th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Gruden was in Tampa longer than Oakland, NOBODY over there says he’s too conservative, fans, commentators, writers, nobody. No national t.v. or radio analysts say it, former players or otherwise. The only people who say that Gruden is too conservative are Raider fans. Raider fans think any offensive playcaller that doesn’t go deep every 3 plays is too conservative.
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OK, I’ll take your word. Did you follow Gruden and his every move in Tampa? Read all of the local Tampa beat writers articles? Participate in the Blogs of the Bucaneers? Or have you come to a well researched conclusion that you never heard it on TV or Radio.
Obviously, Raider fan thinks that a least 1 bomb MUST be thrown every 4 downs. Otherwise it’s to conservative.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Englander: Keep your day job. You are NOT the last comic standing.
August 13th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
I have to agree with JB, I also hung my star hopeing he would come around, we learn at an older age also
August 13th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
RMR,
Are you that retarded in real life, or do you try to be special here?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
O, he has the talent!
August 13th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
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August 13th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Gruden’s Biotch,
If he is so good, then why is he unemployed?
August 13th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
O, I liked Gruden, bypassed Al, made football exciting again, he played like a Raider of yesteryear, I’d sign him back to this young team with potential, Al?
August 13th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Gruden’s Biotch,
If he is so good, then why is he unemployed?
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O,
Gruden could have a Major College job any time he wanted it.
I think he’ll have another opportunity as an NFL head coach next season, if he wants it.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Supposedly Cartwright has the edge over Bennett because of his ST work. Actually I’d like to keep both and relegate DMac to WR with an occasional touch out of the backfield. If I had to choose between Bennett & Cartwright, I favor Bennett. I’d also prefer to see other than Cartwright as the KOR. We need the Nick “the Quick” Miller types returning the ball.
In case I wasn’t clear earlier, I don’t believe DMac will ever make it as a full time RB. His success and future lies in the WR position. I know that puts me on Dakota’s schit list but so be it. DMac is built for speed, not banging between the tackles. Leave that up to the Bush/Bennett/Cartwright’s.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
A guy says to a woman in an elevator: Can I smell your puzzy?
Hell no, she says.
Guy says: Well, it must be your feet then.
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LOL
August 13th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Len, you’re quibbling, now. If you really want to take this on, go find me one article where anyone other than a Raider fan or some serious Raider hack in the press who’s notorious for being apologetic to the Raider culture says that Gruden is too conservative. Remember, all I ever said is that I’ve never heard anyone other than a Raider fan or someone like George Atkinson say it. That claim needs no evidence. The burden is on anyone who disagrees to come up with a link to somebody, anywhere outside of the Raiders circle, saying Gruden’s too conservative. I’ve never seen it. And for the record, I am always reading articles on the internet from all over the country, and have read plenty about Gruden through the years, when he was here and after he left. Even still, I have NEVER read anyone other than a proclaimed Raider fan say that Gruden’s too conservative. This belief that Gruden is too conservative is exclusive to Raider fans. That’s it. Nobody else believes it.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Len & 860,
Can a man have some Fing fun with the Retard? lol
August 13th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Bennett showed a lot of heart, got it done. Cartright has desire, didn’t see the talent. IMHO
August 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Gruden’s Biotch,
If he is so good, then why is he unemployed?
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If Al Davis wasn’t an owner he would have been unemployed 20 years ago! If we’re going to use that standard.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
JB,
I’d like to see Cartwright and Bennett make the final 53 as well.
I’m still holding out hope for DMAC as a RB however.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
O, have at him, your just on the list….lol
August 13th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
BRB, cat wants some tuna fish, things we do for our kitties…
August 13th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Gruden’s Biotch,
Do you always answer questions about Gruden by talking about Al?
August 13th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RMR#477,
Fair enough. In an earlier post I’d pointed out an example of imo, Grudens conservatism.
It’s not an indictment of Gruden, rather an observation that he had a tendancy to the “safe” call.
For all of Grudens bravado, as a play caller, imo, His image doesn’t match his play selection.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Len
I understand your position on DMac. Hope you are right but I’m a pessimist when it comes to him. Don’t get me wrong, I think he can be a game changer, just not as a RB. His center of gravity is just to high. He’s top heavy with a slim lower end. That’s not the prototypical frame for a banging RB. Our O-line is not god enough or experienced enough to open the necessary sized holes for DMac to get through. He ca get around he edge and be effective on swing passes but so would the other RB’s. Where he could be a phenomenon is out of the slot. Get him the ball in the open against LB’s & safeties and it’s homerun time. That’s, IMO, how we should be using him. Running him up the gut is the same as banging your head against a cement wall.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Len, exactly, you provided us an example of his conservatism. And, YOU, are a Raider fan! That’s my point. What you view as conservative, most NFL fans view as smart football. I don’t think Gruden was too conservative. Were there some plays where he could have loosened up? Sure. But I don’t think it was excessive. He had an approach to the game that most Raider fans just weren’t accustomed to, and in fact didn’t even believe in. But it brought wins. And it brought wins because it was more in tune with the nuances of the modern game than Al Davis’s dated and useless philosophies that had drug the team into the cellar before Gruden’s arrival (and would eventually drag us back there after his departure).
August 13th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Did I just offend you moderator?
I do humbly beg your forgiveness.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
860,
I’m on every bad list. Dakota knows why.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
What’s the difference between erotic sex and kinky sex?
With erotic sex you use a feather.
With kinky sex it’s the whole chicken.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
England,
Maybe she is a girl with a smelly puzzy!
August 13th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Just finished watching last night’s game. WTH, got stuck w/ Dallas commentators whole game. God they sucked. Supposed to be half and half.
One player I was impressed with in the 2nd half was MLB T. Goethel. He looked a lot more athletic than I expecting from reading pre draft stuff. He could get to the sidelines. Gotta watch those sideline hits on QB’s, though. Raiders usually don’t get much leeway from the refs on those. I thought the kid looked good. Possible backup to McClain.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
All of our draft picks next year need to be on the offensive side of the ball.
And no more reaches by Al!
August 13th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
MR:
Didn’t I read somewhere that you want to be a screenwriter?
You should go with that because as a commentator on the Raiders you suck.
I recommend that if you want to write screen plays, then you should read every book that Elmore Leonard ever wrote.
Quentin Tarantino’s been using Elmore’s books for movies for a long time and pretending that HE write the script when in reality it came directly from the dialogue in Leonard’s books.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
O, Ive been paying attention, just don’t say much…
August 13th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RMR#485,
I understand your point of view.
My point of view is that Gruden, whom I like, mostly played it safe.
In His time here he was successfull with that formula, but as the saying goes, “no guts no glory.”
Gruden never seemed to roll the dice.
Think of guys like Chuck Knox, George Allen, etc.
Gruden was considered a bright offensive mind, but I never really saw anything that appeared to be innovative or different.
Just always the safe “conservative’ call.
No matter, it’s all water under the brige now.
August 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
JB
thanks for the news flash, as if I didn’t know he’s on his way down. That has nothing to do with his talent but everything to do with a kid who’s lost. Misguided and confused about life and some other things. Russell is going to hit bottom and bust wide open before he realizes his friends aren’t friends at all.
There were at least 6-8 GM’s that agreed with me before that kid was drafted. His proday was legendary ability off the charts but he likes getting high instead of working on his craft. That’s what’s wrong with Russell, I’ve known about the cough syrup fr a long time and he’s not the only NFL player doing it there are a lot of them. But it affects his motivation to study film and his craft that’s something no scout can measure.
Brett Farve was hooked on vicodin but he loved the game and no one could tell. But he loved the game enough to quit. Russell loves the party life more…………..period
August 13th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Len, I respect your point of view, but I’m going to go with the 90% of football fans, journalists, and analysts outside of the Raider Nation, who simply don’t share the view that Gruden is too conservative. Gruden had problems, but being too conservative is not one of them. A lot of Raider fans just really believe in that deep ball, baby, even though you have to be selective about it nowadays. The Davis philosophy is that you throw deep whenever you want. Davis and his supporters have their right to that opinion, the rest of the football world have the right to say it’s outdated and foolish, and that Gruden was actually the cure for it.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Gruden was ultra conservative. Hated his offense. Good HC avg OC.
The end
August 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
860,
Don’t worry. I’ll stay low till it’s time to invade Mich!! I said too much!! lol
Later Bro.
Later Nation!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
And ONLY you and a maybe 3 other fools that I know of were dumb enough to ride him to the bitter end.
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Priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Brett Farve was hooked on vicodin but he loved the game and no one could tell. But he loved the game enough to quit. Russell loves the party life more…………..period
August 13th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Priest, who were the “6-8″ GMs who liked Russell?
August 13th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
90%?!?!?!?
I love Retards!! They are funny!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
translation:
He was just the right color Qb for me thats why I named him “Black Moses” despite his lack of talent or commitment to the game.
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# priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Russell is one of the most talented QB I”ve ever seen if that doesn’t mean anything to him. Why should I give a damn.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Btw, Savage (Browns GM) wanted Jabustus!!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
You’ve been predicting 4-12 or 5-11 all off season. Did you forget or change meds?
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I’m positive too. I think we can win 9 games if Al never once intervenes with ANYTHING, all year.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
RMR,
I’ll leave it at this. Whatever approach produces Wins on the field, will be embraced.
Mike Martz was embraced in St Louis with “The Greatest Show on Turf”
Now, not so much.
If the Raiders in some way resurect “The Mad Bomber” and Win. It will be embraced.
The bottom line is that most Football coaches in the NFL are guys that play it close to the vest.
Bill Walsh’s they ain’t.
A good example of a “progressive” NFL coach would be Sean Payton.
The NFL status quo, in my opinion, is biased to be “conservative”
August 13th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Impressive showing from the Raiders defensive line, with the only downside being if they can get this much natural pressure, “SOMEONE” will think it’s a good idea for John Marshall to scrap any ideas of blitzing and moving Nnamdi Asomugha creatively and let the front four handle everything.
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If that “SOMEONE” butts out, they can win 8.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
KKKell hows the DOW looking today? Recession still over ?
August 13th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Watching Jacksonville and the Eagles.
Kirk Morrison still sucks.
That is all.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Satele got beat pretty badly giving up that sack right up the middle on the Raiders 3rd possession.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Brownstains
You’re an idiot.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
A guy says to a woman in an elevator: Can I smell your puzzy?
Hell no, she says.
Guy says: Well, it must be your feet then.
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Satelle, and Carlisle. Of the weak links, these two are the Poster Children.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Opps, wrong paste. sorry about that.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
A guy says to a woman in an elevator: Can I smell your puzzy?
Hell no, she says.
Guy says: Well, it must be your feet then.
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LMAO!!!! I keep that one.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
KKKell you’re calling me an idiot after you said the recession is over because the DOW is up?
LMFAO!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Glenn Coffee retires?
WOW
haha
August 13th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
BrownStains
Go google “Recession”, then google the Gross National Product.
Then go screw yourself, ok?
August 13th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
KKKell why would i do any of that, for you?
lol
August 13th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Btw BrownStains, It’s Football Season. This is a Football Blog.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
McNabb leads Skins to TD on second drive. DeAngelo Hall INT leads to second score in 1st Quarter.
Raiders fans have to love that.
August 13th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Warren Sapp’s an idiot
August 13th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
So why are you telling me to google “recession” as if everybody isn’t aware of one. Especially the last 18 months!
U fk’n dork
August 13th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
KKKell its football season! The DOW is down, foreclosures up, unemployment up, corruption is up! Lets stick to football ok..
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KoolKell Says:
August 13th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
BrownStains
Go google “Recession”, then google the Gross National Product.
Then go screw yourself, ok?
August 13th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
According to his Twitter account McFadden is at home attempting to Jailbreak his new IPhone.
He should put the phone away and study his damn playbook!
August 13th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
KKKell, taking a trip to Spain during 2 Wars and 20% (real number) unemployment is quite arrogant and insensitive, yes?
mope & change
August 13th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
McFadden doesn’t know the playbook?
First I’ve heard of that..
August 13th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
DHB was silent again last night.
August 13th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Sigh…another season and another year of misguided hype, sycophantic cheerleading, and apologies for the old rocksmoker Al from Priesttj. Hey dude, everybody want us to win, but you don’t have to defend the indefensible to be a loyal fan–by the way, another myth promoted by the kool-aid drinkers. Al still stucks ass, and his derelict neglect of the offensive line proves it.
August 13th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Regarding Gruden’s ‘conservatism’…I’m one of those Raider fans that felt he was a bit too conservative.
Towards the end of his Raider tenure I must admit I was getting tired of all the short crossing routes and dinking and dunking. Every play seemed to start with the signature man in motion and culminated with a short reception or dump off to a back.
However, in Gruden’s defense, he was running an offense saddled with a QB with a pea-shooter for an arm and designed plays to maximize his ability. Gannon was a fabulous field general that could make things happen, you just didn’t want to ask him to consistently throw accurate deep or intermediate passes. That just wasn’t his forte. When he first started QBng the Raids it was uncanny the way he would scramble for first downs to keep the chains moving. And that’s what Gruden’s offense was designed to do. Keep the chains moving.
Was it the most exciting offense ? No, but it worked. Of course back then we had a terriffic OL, some very good skill position players and it seemed we could have been more explosive, but the bottom line was Gannon wasn’t equpped to run an offense predicated on a lot of deep strikes and Gruden’s offense maximized Gannon’s abilities.
I think Gruden did a very good job coaching the Raids. But I will also say I thought Callahan opened up the offense just a little bit more in the SB year with good results up until he ran into Gruden in SD.
Gruden was a good coach, even Al admits that. I don’t regret the king’s ransom we got from TB in exchange for Gruden, it was the right move to make. Unfortunately Al whiffed on the draft picks we got for Gruden, and the Raids have whiffed on just about every high draft pick since then. Couple that with some horrible FA acquistions and you get a decade of misery for the Raiders. That’s all on Davis.
Understandably there’s many Raider fans that want to throw Al under the bus. They’re convinced the game has passed him by and we’re doomed to suck as long as he’s at the helm.
I’m not one of them.
I still think Davis will get this turned around, and even if he can’t, I’m going to stick with him. To me, Al Davis is greatly responsible for the Raider legacy and for that he has earned my undying support.
Heck, one of the reasons I admire the Raiders is the maverick image that Al is responsible for. If and when Al rights the ship it’s going to be all that much sweeter being a Raider fan and having stuck with crazy old Al. I just hope it happens soon because all these miserable Sunday’s have been killing me.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
DHB
silence was at least a bit concerning. You would think the coaches would’ve at least wanted to get him a couple of catch’s. He needs his confidence biult up in this preseason more than anyone IMO. To take him after the first series was odd.
August 13th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
I see at least seven rookies making the final 53.
100%- Mr. McClain, Mr. Houston, Mr. Veldheer, & Mr. Campbell
99%- Mr.Ford
98%- Mr. Brown, also Mr. McFadden & Mr. Goethel
still a solid chance is Mr. Ware
if so at least one of Mr. Johnson, Mr. Huff, Mr. Routt,or Mr. Eugene could be traded (all to valuable to simply cut).
August 13th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
We need to sign Matawe pro-bowlcenter!
August 13th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Looks like the Defense will be awesome this year.
What made the Raiders Offense famous, was the wild unpredictable gunslinger, Kenny Stabler the “Snake” and the vicious Defense that created fear among the league.
We need to get back to that same intensity, that “Raider Attitude”.
The pieces are right there for an exciting, unpredictable, high powered offense. Shake it up!l
First, bring in the 4 wide spread with Colt Brennan, the most prolific gunslinger in NCAA history, records held, completion %, touchdowns, total yards, 31 records in all. Bottom line, he is accurate and quick, critics say, it’s a gimmick offense, so what, it moves the ball downfield and is exciting to watch, like a machine.
Redzone, go with the Wildcat, utilizing Rock (young Ricky Williams), Bennett, Bush and McFadden or Pro set with Boller.
New England and the Colts are successful and fun to watch because of the spread.
The excitement will be back with the high scoring and mean defense, the country will be talking about the New Raider attack with the old Attitude!
If the Raider motto is “Just Win, Baby”, then they need to really mean it and shake it up!
Same old offense with Campbell, who had 5 years with the skins with limited success, will be low scoring and predictable, boring. I don;t think Raider fans want to wait another 5 years for him to “develop”.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Jerry I agree with your comment about wasting plays on field goals. However, Swayze is not a proven entity. I’m not exactly sure what his purpose is, but it can’t hurt to see a new guy attempt a kick. Him missing the easy one should tell you more than an incomplete pass on that 4th down.
In the future, it’s pointless to go for the kick though, because we know the guy isn’t as good as seabass.