Cable says McClain should be back soon
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, August 14th, 2010 at 7:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain missed practice to attend to a personal matter, but coach Tom Cable said he didn’t expect the Raiders’ first-round draft pick to be gone long.
Teammates Thomas Howard and Quentin Groves both offered support for McClain earlier in the day on their Twitter account in terms of prayers for the rookie and his family.
Cable would only say, “He has a personal issue that he has been excused to handle. He’ll be back quick.’’
While no one would say it for the record, the reason for McClain’s absence was a serious illness in his family.
McClain played the first three series against Dallas, exited the game and then came back briefly. He had one tackle and one assist, making no big hits but no obvious mistakes, either.
“I think he did fine,’’ Cable said. “He ran the defense like you want him to. He ran to the ball, was in on a number of plays, so I think you could say it was a success, first time out.’’
More news, notes and quotes from Saturday’s lone practice:
– Quarterback Charlie Frye has a sore right hand that hasn’t responded to treatment and will see a specialist this week to determine what is wrong.
It’s not the first time. Frye missed three games for the Cleveland Browns after injuring his right wrist in Dec. 3, 2006. He returned that year to play in the season finale.
Frye hasn’t practiced since Aug. 5. He has already undergone an MRI which didn’t reveal anything.
“They only show so much because the things in there are so small,’’ Frye said. “That’s probably the hardest part, not knowing. That just tears you up.’’
Cable’s assessment sounded ominous.
“We’re going to have some work done here in the next couple of days to see if we can get kind of some decisions made on what we’ve got to do there,’’ Cable said.
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, meanwhile, was recovered enough from a groin strain to get in some work in drills and in team sessions (the Raiders were in shorts or shells) but wasn’t pushing it in terms of mobility.
“We turned him loose throwing the ball and all that today and we’ll see how he feels in the morning and keep adding to it,’’ Cable said.
– Running back Darren McFadden did not practice and hasn’t been on the field since Aug. 7, the day Cable said, “there’s no injury or anything. We just don’t want to mess with it.’’
McFadden was working with Luke Lawton and Jacoby Ford near the field house with a member of the athletic training staff, going through drills. McFadden said he’s not quite ready to turn loose the uninjured hamstring.
If the Raiders play it safe, McFadden could conceivably miss Saturday’s game in Chicago against the Bears.
The dilemma? You never really know a hamstring is healed until you turn it loose _ and the easiest way to re-injure it is to turn it loose.
“Even if it is feeling strong, at the same time you don’t want to open up too much if you’re not ready all the way and go back to point one,’’ McFadden said.
– Ford, out since Aug. 5 with a quadriceps injury, said he’d be back at practice Sunday.
“My coach definitely told me, if you can’t go 100 percent, then don’t go at all. He’d rather have me for the season than to miss all of training camp, which would be bad. That’s very encouraging to have the coaches behind me and supporting me’’
Cable wouldn’t commit to Sunday for Ford, but said, “We’re very close,’’ and thought the rookie hadn’t fallen too far behind.
– With Tyvon Branch and Mike Mitchell both safeties who play physically and usually near the line of scrimmage, and Michael Huff having a void in his contract after this season, Cable has usually skirted the issue as to which player could play as a single deep safety.
On Saturday, that man was Mitchell.
I think the reason you saw him there today is we want to find that out,’’ Cable said. “He did some nice things (against Dallas), and are kind of pleased with what he did. But, there are about four or five plays out there that we cannot have and he’s got to be better.
“In the process of developing our team we kind of want to move him around a little bit and see if we can develop some of those things in the middle of the field.’’
– Veteran running back Rock Cartwright is hoping to stick as a reserve, but looks at the Raiders offense and thinks a lead back could do a lot of damage.
This offense allows a back to do a lot of different things. It allows him to go split out at wideout a lot, it allows him to take a lot of checkdowns and screens.
“If a back is able to stay healthy for a full season in this offense I’m sure they can put up close to 2,000 all-purpose yards.’’
– The Raiders have a single practice Sunday at 3:30 p.m. and two sessions Monday at 8:30 a.m. and 4:20 p.m.Rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain wasn’t present at practice Saturday attending.
– Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski was not at practice. Cable said Janikowski was “with his family and it’s not a big dea. He’ll be back tomorrow.”
Practice highlights can be found on my Twitter page.
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August 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
1st!
August 14th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Good to hear McClain is ok.
August 14th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Ummm,… Is everyone banned? lol
August 14th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
He Hate Me, are you Elway’s Teeth?
August 14th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
From today’s news….
It’s been easy for opponents to find Asomugha since he became a starter in 2005: Look to the far right of the field, close to the line of scrimmage, and there he was.
Opponents also were keenly aware of the Raiders’ reluctance to move Asomugha around. That enabled teams to free up their best receiver simply by lining him up on the other side.
This really is the dumbest team in football.
August 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Good Gawd, the fans who eat up all this info, if that’s what it is, must be under 25 in years and an IQ to match. The rest of us laugh.
Too much info every day and all the time.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
August 14th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Looking back on the stats, I think we might be jumping the ship on how bad our O-line was.
Yes, Satele completely wiffed on that sack (to my old Butte College buddy Junior Siavii) that looked awful. But Bush did average 4.4 ypc, against a good rushing defense, and Campbell was only sacked once in 14 drop backs, which is right around the league average.
The O-line still needs to improve, but let’s not start calling for two rookies to come in and play a brand new position, and think that is some type of sure-fire way to improve things.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I want to see DHB catch some freekn passes before the preseason is done. #1 receiver cannot have games with 0 catches and only 1 pass thrown in his direction…which shows he isn’t getting open.
Last year was horrible. 9 rec in 12 starts…we need to see better than that early on. And I am not talking about 7-7 drills at Napa.
Schilens has to be able to play in these games too. Is he ready or not?
I am leaning towards making JLH the #2 receiver. at least he has some catches
August 14th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Looking back on the stats, I think we might be jumping the ship on how bad our O-line was.
Yes, Satele completely wiffed on that sack (to my old Butte College buddy Junior Siavii) that looked awful. But Bush did average 4.4 ypc, against a good rushing defense, and Campbell was only sacked once in 14 drop backs, which is right around the league average.
The O-line still needs to improve, but let’s not start calling for two rookies to come in and play a brand new position, and think that is some type of sure-fire way to improve things.
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Totally agree here….I’ve been reading the comments the last few days and it just makes zero sense to throw them youngstas out there like that against first teamers. There are all kind of little things that they arent gonna grasp as those vets would. Yes Satele and Carlisle suck overall but dont think the rookies gonna fair better automatically
August 14th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Gaither has a tear in his back. Expected to miss 2-3 weeks.
Would be a good idea to package a trade for him and play him at Right Tackle.
Then get Mawae to play center and groom Veldheer to eventually take over the center spot.
Move Langston Walker inside to Right Guard to replace Cooper Carlisle and have Bruce Campbell back up Walker.
Instant line improvement addressing all 3 positions of need on the o-line, and allows us to have a reasonable chance to compete for the division this season.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I want to see DHB catch some freekn passes before the preseason is done. #1 receiver cannot have games with 0 catches and only 1 pass thrown in his direction…which shows he isn’t getting open.
Last year was horrible. 9 rec in 12 starts…we need to see better than that early on. And I am not talking about 7-7 drills at Napa.
Schilens has to be able to play in these games too. Is he ready or not?
I am leaning towards making JLH the #2 receiver. at least he has some catches
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SnB….calm down my friend calm down. We got the 21st and 28th of this month to see as such from DHB. DHB is playing the Y position not the X. He is a number 2 WR for us…….and Chaz will be playing Sept 12th….I’d like him to play now for entertainment purposes but the game in Tennessee needs to be our focus.
As we all know I’m the biggest JLH fan on the blog but he will be best served as a slot guy….being number 3 is nothing to be ashamed of. Let me tell it Chaz 1 Louis 2 and JLH 3 on September 12th is our best bet
August 14th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Gaither has a tear in his back. Expected to miss 2-3 weeks.
Would be a good idea to package a trade for him and play him at Right Tackle.
Then get Mawae to play center and groom Veldheer to eventually take over the center spot.
Move Langston Walker inside to Right Guard to replace Cooper Carlisle and have Bruce Campbell back up Walker.
Instant line improvement addressing all 3 positions of need on the o-line, and allows us to have a reasonable chance to compete for the division this season.
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AC…………but back injuries are a mfker so it would be some issues with him I believe. I’m really not worried about Walker as I am about Satele and Carlisle……but yes Mawae is perfect and would be a great force for one year
August 14th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Brien,
I hear ya. I know its only 1 preseason game. But its hard to envision the lights just coming on sometimes. Guys like Maclin, Nicks, Desean and Johnny Knox just come out and make some plays. Our DHB isn’t even out of the garage yet and that 1st preseason looked a lot like last year.
You are right, there are still 3 preseason games left. We need to see something. He should stay in these games until he grabs at least 2 receptions.
Tom Cable’s 7-7 drills don’t really mean much.
Of course not having JaDavis chucking low balls or Tom Cable calling plays should help.
Just get me 2 reception DHB. 2
August 14th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I think everyone is concerned with Satele and Carlisle. CLEARLY the weak links on the Oline.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Chris Morris may actually be our worst Olineman. Only reason he is #2 C is Veldheer still dilly dallying around over there at LT. Henderson looks decent enough over there so let’s get on with Veldheer at C.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
# B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I’m really not worried about Walker as I am about Satele and Carlisle……but yes Mawae is perfect and would be a great force for one year
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Brian I agree that Walker is less of a priority than Delilah Satele and Belinda Carlisle.
But I think Walker did much better for us as a guard last season. Watching him get beat by the the Defensive end and commit stupid false start penalties just reminded me of Kwame Harris and Cornell Green.
But at the very least we should get Mawae and then move Bruce Campbell to RG. I’ve just about had it with Carlisle.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
The O-Line is what it is. It is up to Cable and his staff to coach these hand-picked players up. They have who they wanted.
I agree with Brien, throwing two rookies out there early on will most likely not work out.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
# J Wiggle Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I think everyone is concerned with Satele and Carlisle. CLEARLY the weak links on the Oline.
# J Wiggle Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Chris Morris may actually be our worst Olineman. Only reason he is #2 C is Veldheer still dilly dallying around over there at LT. Henderson looks decent enough over there so let’s get on with Veldheer at C.
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Yes its obviousthe oline is a concern Jheezle….but to toss Veldheer at center is alot to ask….he has to be able to be the QB of the oline….that responsiblity isnt for everyone….if he is up to it the better for us I just dont see it
August 14th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
[...] doubt that former Browns and Seahawks QB Charlie Frye could be back collecting unemployment soon as he is in danger of being cut from the Raiders: The Oakland Raiders quarterback situation is coming into focus faster than most [...]
August 14th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Sounds a though Frye will be out awhile. Hope we get to see more of Colt Brennan this time around. Call it curiosity but sometimes player like this, can be a real find in the right environment/situation. Preseason is a time to see what’s out there so let’s take a peek.
August 14th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
# B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I’m really not worried about Walker as I am about Satele and Carlisle……but yes Mawae is perfect and would be a great force for one year
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Brian I agree that Walker is less of a priority than Delilah Satele and Belinda Carlisle.
But I think Walker did much better for us as a guard last season. Watching him get beat by the the Defensive end and commit stupid false start penalties just reminded me of Kwame Harris and Cornell Green.
But at the very least we should get Mawae and then move Bruce Campbell to RG. I’ve just about had it with Carlisle.
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dont mention those two losers who were posing as Tackles again…..I just tossed my cookies man
I just dont see who we can put at RT right now unless it Veldheer…..I’m rolling with Langston especially since we are incorporating power blocking
August 14th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Colt Brennan=hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
August 14th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
JB,
With Gradkowski coming back..hopefully anyway, I don’t see Colt getting a shot at all. He will be cut very soon. The 3 QBS are Campbell, Gradkowski and Boller
August 14th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
So QBs in Oakland are JC,Grads and Boller? Not bad…..who is the number 2 then?
I think VR commits suicide if it aint Grads lol
August 14th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
B, I’ll give you one thing, you are the fastest typist I’ve ever seen.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
M Bush should be the leading Back for our offense. Use DMC as a 3rd down back, Change of pace back, and slot WR.
We need to run well to help this offense, and allow our defense to keep us in games!!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
My ONLY concern with Gradkowski are his TWO bad wheels (knees) and his recent susceptibility to injuries. Other than that he’s got a great attitude and has earned respect in the locker room – both good things. I do not however see him at the #1 spot on the depth chart.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
# JB Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
B, I’ll give you one thing, you are the fastest typist I’ve ever seen.
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I guess lol
August 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
M Bush should be the leading Back for our offense. Use DMC as a 3rd down back, Change of pace back, and slot WR.
We need to run well to help this offense, and allow our defense to keep us in games!!!!
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No
August 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Cable and Jackson need to take a page out of the Gruden playbook and use DMC the same way Kaufman and then Garner was used. Wheatley bruised through the D-line and wore them out for the big play. DMC needs to be on swing tosses, screen passes, and occasional trick plays.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
-Play Veldheer at RT
-let Campbell/ Walker/ Barnes/ Cooper compete for RG
-Sign Mawae, or trade for a C. Satele is a backup.
-Mario plays LT, and Gallery play LG.
The 4 guys competing for 1 position should produce better results. Veldheer will make a great RT. He has reach and strength.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Raider O you are completely wrong here……in the NFL now you have to use two backs……Bush and DMAC need to split the carries man……slot WR? No…..thats JLH
August 14th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
“No”
Interesting!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
-Play Veldheer at RT
-let Campbell/ Walker/ Barnes/ Cooper compete for RG
-Sign Mawae, or trade for a C. Satele is a backup.
-Mario plays LT, and Gallery play LG.
The 4 guys competing for 1 position should produce better results. Veldheer will make a great RT. He has reach and strength.
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This sounds more doable buddy
August 14th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Gradkowski at #2 is no guarantee. Boller fits the “profile” of you know who.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
B,
Selective reading is a biotch!
I said: 3rd down back, and change of pace back AND ALSO SLOT WR!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
The big issue is these wide receivers. The O-Line will be serviceable to a large extent…and will struggle at times…but best believe, if DHB is hauling in 1 catch every 2 games and Schilens is on the sidelines in street clothes…this offense will only be marginally better than the JaDavis led version.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
No matter what, the consensus is with Bush being the lead back. So far it’s looking like we busted on our last three first round picks (not including McClain, TBD…). All is okay though because we have plenty of talent and strong work ethic out of Campbell, Murphy, and Bush. All three are easy on the payroll, however we keep striking out on the first rounders. Good trade for Seymore and a wash of a trade for Moss. Sucks that he gave up.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
B,
Selective reading is a biotch!
I said: 3rd down back, and change of pace back AND ALSO SLOT WR!!!
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No I wasnt selective reading at all……what you are suggesting is the worse idea ever…..you need to mix and match the guys based on what’s going down. Bring him in on 3rd down….change of pace back….slot WR? You limiting the guy as if he is a bench player….NO! That wont happen and you know it
August 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Raider O………if you run it 35 times in a game Bush can get 20 and Dmac 15…….they need to share the load….both are talented players and neither of them should be limited…..we dont need DMAC as a fuking slot WR when we got JLH…..its a waste of time man
August 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
He has speed and size so it’s good to match him against LBs (too slow for DMC), or NBs who are too small to match up well against him (he is 6′2).
Don’t you agree B?
August 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
LakeCountyRaider,
McClain won’t bust. Unlike the last 3 or so picks…this guy McClain was drafted for beinga an exceptional football player and student…not for physical traits of speed and finesse
August 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
The big issue is these wide receivers. The O-Line will be serviceable to a large extent…and will struggle at times…but best believe, if DHB is hauling in 1 catch every 2 games and Schilens is on the sidelines in street clothes…this offense will only be marginally better than the JaDavis led version.
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SnB, Schilens is playing week 1……book it print it etc……the WR unit doesnt even worry me at all…yall reading too much of what the dumb media is saying
August 14th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
O
I disagree with you on the use of Veldheer. The Center position is much more important that RT. The center position if played correctly, can make-up for a mediocre RT when it comes to pass protection. The opposite is not true. Vedheer has a relatively short arm reach (33″) for a tackle of his size. He much better suited for the center position. We need a big man who’s quick to hold the middle. we also need someone who is bright to be the QB of the O-line. Veldheer has those attributes and would be much better suited for the SuperCenter position. walker might be better positioned at RG. He did OK last year at LG. The real competition should be for ORT. If we can pick up a good FA center for a year or two while Veldheer matures, great. If not, we may just have to bite he bullet & let him learn on the job. The only thing for sure is Satele must go and have hm take Morris with him.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
B,
I agree with post 43 110Fing%!!!!!
Do you think we will run 35 times per game? I think we should with our defense.
Top 12 defense!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
He has speed and size so it’s good to match him against LBs (too slow for DMC), or NBs who are too small to match up well against him (he is 6′2).
Don’t you agree B?
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I know DMAC is a versatile weapon but you may wanna reword your stuff buddy……you people on this blog are making it seem like the guy should be used in spot duty…..it dont work like that in the NFL anymore. Just bringing him in on 3rd downs is gonna make schit predictable man….dont u get it?
August 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
B,
I hear ya. I will be watching this receiver group closely this preseason.
I hope you are right because Schilens going down last year hurt this team and led to the force feeding of DHB on company time.
This can be a good year if the receivers step it up and help the QB.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
B,
I agree with post 43 110Fing%!!!!!
Do you think we will run 35 times per game? I think we should with our defense.
Top 12 defense!!
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If Hue has any sense in that bald head of his we will start off like that in Tennessee
August 14th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I am cool with the defense. As long as they don’t go vanilla
August 14th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
B,
Forgot to add that I agree with post 43, but I will still use DMC in the slot!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
B,
I hear ya. I will be watching this receiver group closely this preseason.
I hope you are right because Schilens going down last year hurt this team and led to the force feeding of DHB on company time.
This can be a good year if the receivers step it up and help the QB.
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Well you gotta think SnB….having just a average QB like Gradkowski did wonders for the team last year……with another year of maturity and assurance of the starting QB no doubt we can expect an improvement.
If anyone thinks the offense will be anything like ti was in 2008 and 2009, you need to go find a new team….fuk it just dont watch football
August 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
B,
Forgot to add that I agree with post 43, but I will still use DMC in the slot!
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Ok I would use him a couple of times but to feature him there is ridiculous because no matter what anyone says on this blog, teams are gonna fear that sucka because they dont wanna let him get a handoff and get past the LBs…..that will help the play action game
August 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
B,
I can’t help how you understand my posts, but I think we are saying the same thing bro.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I am cool with the defense. As long as they don’t go vanilla
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SnB………no way will they……you got two OLBs in Scott and Wimbley who were pass rushers…..they will be doing their share of blitzes
August 14th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
SnB,
I agree that McClain won’t be a bust. If things don’t work out with him it will not have anything to do with his work ethic, intellectual competency, or raw talent. You just always have to worry about injuries or him not being shaped into his position in the right way. He will work out but what we need most is an immediate impact player. It may take a while for him to control the field in the way that Willis does across the bay.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
B,
I can’t help how you understand my posts, but I think we are saying the same thing bro.
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Raider O…..I’ve just been sick to my stomach reading the anti-dmac posts on this blog over the last 6 or so months……..i mean look at the SD and second Denver game…….those were the only games he was given more than ten carries….other games he is getting 5 or 6 and ppl are yelling AW HE IS A BUST….ridiculous
August 14th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
-Play Veldheer at RT
-let Campbell/ Walker/ Barnes/ Cooper compete for RG
-Sign Mawae, or trade for a C. Satele is a backup.
-Mario plays LT, and Gallery play LG.
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Makes sense to me. I would support this over what we have now in a heartbeat.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# LakeCountyRaider Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
SnB,
I agree that McClain won’t be a bust. If things don’t work out with him it will not have anything to do with his work ethic, intellectual competency, or raw talent. You just always have to worry about injuries or him not being shaped into his position in the right way. He will work out but what we need most is an immediate impact player. It may take a while for him to control the field in the way that Willis does across the bay.
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I’m not worried about RoMac…….cant wait until he intros himself to CJ2K sept 12
August 14th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
ArmChair…..thing is we are running more power blocking and I think Walker is better suited than Veldheer right now to that from the RT position
August 14th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
-We should run 35 times!
-20 to Bush, and 15 DMC!
-Use HB screens, and use DMC in multiple ways to use his speed and size!!
-Let the Defense close the games, and help with a solid rushing attack!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
I bet that Morrison just fades away with the Jaguars just like the other semi-successful Raider linebackers we shipped away in years past.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
LakeCounty,
Injuries are a part of it unfortunately. McClain is already a big step up with the leadership of the defense. We finally have a boss on the defense…him and Houston will give this defense some character and toughness.
Brien,
I think the offense can be decent. But DHB has to step it up man. When Gradkowski gave them that spark, he was not in the lineup. I am not saying he’s got to be a premier receiver…he just has to be more of a factor. I would be happy if DHB would perform at Louis Murphy’s level last year.
Nervous about the kid for sure
August 14th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
I like DMC and I’m a supporter. I have a DMC TShirt. Yes, TShirt!! lol
I also have a Jabustus jersey, Sir Charles, and today I bought Nnamdi 50th white and silver, and Bo in Black (M & N throwback).
August 14th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
-We should run 35 times!
-20 to Bush, and 15 DMC!
-Use HB screens, and use DMC in multiple ways to use his speed and size!!
-Let the Defense close the games, and help with a solid rushing attack!
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Now we onthe same page as we are on the shameful act of eating pork
August 14th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
I like DMC and I’m a supporter. I have a DMC TShirt. Yes, TShirt!! lol
I also have a Jabustus jersey, Sir Charles, and today I bought Nnamdi 50th white and silver, and Bo in Black (M & N throwback).
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A Russell jersey makes for good toilet paper
August 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
B,
I agree again. We should run DMC 15 times per game, and also throw it to him 5 times per game.
He can be a great weapon, but I don’t think he is an every down back. Not many in today’s league. CJ2K and AP.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
LakeCounty,
Injuries are a part of it unfortunately. McClain is already a big step up with the leadership of the defense. We finally have a boss on the defense…him and Houston will give this defense some character and toughness.
Brien,
I think the offense can be decent. But DHB has to step it up man. When Gradkowski gave them that spark, he was not in the lineup. I am not saying he’s got to be a premier receiver…he just has to be more of a factor. I would be happy if DHB would perform at Louis Murphy’s level last year.
Nervous about the kid for sure
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Yes RoMac is the BAUCE you and I have yelled for in the middle of the defense for the past two years
Yeah I agree we need to see more outta DHB but kid works hard and has a good attitude. I’m optimistic that a few things will open up this season for him. But we gotta get the oline straight
August 14th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
LMAO @ 67.
I will keep my Jabustus jersey since I wanted us to draft him.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
B,
I agree again. We should run DMC 15 times per game, and also throw it to him 5 times per game.
He can be a great weapon, but I don’t think he is an every down back. Not many in today’s league. CJ2K and AP.
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Yes and he will be a much more loved guy around here if WE use him right
August 14th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
LMAO @ 67.
I will keep my Jabustus jersey since I wanted us to draft him.
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I was pissed when we drafted him…..we were using pu**y WCO and I thought we shoulda drafted Lady Quinn…..well shoot looks like I woulda been wrong there too lol
August 14th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Dont know if people were watching the different preseason games as I was but one thing stuck out to me…………………..
The Chargers right tackle has Cornell Greenitis!……Meet Lamarr Houston buddy. That guy will have trouble with Lamarr as will many RTs
Also the Titans Left Tackle vs Matt S will be interesting…..I believe Matt can beat Roos
August 14th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
ArmChair GM,
If Csble can’t improve this OL, then what good is he as a head coach. He doesn’t call plays on offense or defense, he is suppose to be an OL GURU but our OL is this teams weakness.
I’m not sold on Cable, and his Soft Camp and Practice, but the players like him.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
But guys ima keep saying it………….Tommy Kelly has gotta be taken out of the starting lineup…… that crap the other night was unacceptable. He gets zero push and isn’t a difference maker out there…..lol for fun BHP come on and tell us how impressive he was while going backwards
August 14th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
# B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
ArmChair…..thing is we are running more power blocking and I think Walker is better suited than Veldheer right now to that from the RT position
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I agree with you Brian. Walker is better suited for power blocking than Veldheer right now. But looking at his entire body of work with the Raiders, it just seems like his best work came at Right guard instead of Tackle.
I’m willing to give that fool a chance at Right Tackle. But the stupid penalties gotta stop immediately. He ain’t a rookie. He should be seasoned in that area by now.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
ArmChair GM,
If Csble can’t improve this OL, then what good is he as a head coach. He doesn’t call plays on offense or defense, he is suppose to be an OL GURU but our OL is this teams weakness.
I’m not sold on Cable, and his Soft Camp and Practice, but the players like him.
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Players liked Bugel too lol…………..yeah the softy schit aint solid with me either bruh…..lol a ZBS guy an offense line guru? Since when? Power blocking reigns supreme…..ZBS is for chumps
August 14th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
We should have picked Johnson or Thomas that year.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
I agree with you on TK bro, we should use big John instead IMO. Our front 7 looked good.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
# B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
ArmChair…..thing is we are running more power blocking and I think Walker is better suited than Veldheer right now to that from the RT position
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I agree with you Brian. Walker is better suited for power blocking than Veldheer right now. But looking at his entire body of work with the Raiders, it just seems like his best work came at Right guard instead of Tackle.
I’m willing to give that fool a chance at Right Tackle. But the stupid penalties gotta stop immediately. He ain’t a rookie. He should be seasoned in that area by now.
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Yeah that penalty the other nite didnt sit well with me
August 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Jerry rulez…
Looks like Colt might get to stay…
August 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
I agree with you on TK bro, we should use big John instead IMO. Our front 7 looked good.
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Dont tell that to BHP and JHeezy……they think the guy is good lol. Kelly hasnt done a damn thing but yet DMAC and DHB get super dissed on this site lol
August 14th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I think we should use a mix of power blocking and ZBS. It make our rushing attack top 5, if we can improve the OL.
RT: Veldheer
RG: Campbell, Walker, Barnes, or Cooper
C: find a new one ASAP!!
LG: Gallery
LT: Super Mario
Big, reach, and they can move!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Jerry rulez…
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No
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Raider O….is it me or do you think Cable will act like his mentor Al and be stubborn with Satele as he was with Farglass and Kwame?
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I argue with Jhill about TK on regular basis. It’s fun.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
get rid of dmac .the end
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
dmac waste of a roster spot.the end
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
get rid of dmac .the end
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No Crap Kidd…..you are the one who needs to be jettisoned….you bring nada to the table….end ur life please…I’m begging you
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Stubborn like Al Bro. He thinks he is a ZBS Guru.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
get rid of dmac .the end
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No Crap Kidd…..you are the one who needs to be jettisoned….you bring nada to the table….end ur life please…I’m begging you
………………………..he is a bust get over it.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I argue with Jhill about TK on regular basis. It’s fun.
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No you arent arguing….because Jhill would actually have to have a valid point….he doesnt
August 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
dmac waste of a roster spot.the end
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You are a waste of human excrement…….your dad is upset he didnt shoot you on a towel
………………………..at least i know a bust when i see one.
August 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
get rid of dmac .the end
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No Crap Kidd…..you are the one who needs to be jettisoned….you bring nada to the table….end ur life please…I’m begging you
………………………..he is a bust get over it.
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Wrong…..he isnt…..Cable being a dumbass wasnt gving him carries….examples have been cited you little qu##r….now leave
August 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
dmac waste of a roster spot.the end
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You are a waste of human excrement…….your dad is upset he didnt shoot you on a towel
………………………..at least i know a bust when i see one.
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You have never “busted” period
August 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
use a guy as slot reciever when he washed out at the position he was drafted for!!!!!!!!!bwahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
DMC is a 6′2 215 RB, who can run a sub a 4.3!!!
If Hue can’t use him or Mr. Bush (I like him a lot, and he was suppose to be a high ouch before he broke hid leg), then we have more problems than you can imagine!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Stubborn like Al Bro. He thinks he is a ZBS Guru.
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He isnt at all. People were fooled by that 2007 year. We couldnt run the ball on any stout defense really until the end ofthe year when his butt buddy Farglass got injured
August 14th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
use a guy as slot reciever when he washed out at the position he was drafted for!!!!!!!!!bwahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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YAWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNN….dmac will be getting carries this season and make plays then you will have to eat crow you little fairy
August 14th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
High pick (top 15)*
August 14th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
fargas will have more yards with denver as a backup than loser dmac will have as a starter…dmac wont amount to anything your beating a dead horse.!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
DMAC needs to be on the field and most definitely needs some carries……I’m more than confident Hue will do as such….dont throw out the fact DMAC is not and never will be a ZBS runner….Hell Bush isnt really his damn self
August 14th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
use a guy as slot reciever when he washed out at the position he was drafted for!!!!!!!!!bwahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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YAWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNN….dmac will be getting carries this season and make plays then you will have to eat crow you little fairy
…………………………he will keep doing what he has done since we drafted him ,miracles dont happen give up on him like i did and move on.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
His*
I’m getting tired, and that’s why I can’t type.
Later B.
Later Gents.
Legalize it!!
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
fargas will have more yards with denver as a backup than loser dmac will have as a starter…dmac wont amount to anything your beating a dead horse.!!!!!!!!!
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Farglass is getting axed you idiot….guy cant play at all
You wanna put a wager up DMAC has a better season than Farglass?
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
His*
I’m getting tired, and that’s why I can’t type.
Later B.
Later Gents.
Legalize it!!
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Yeah I’m about to jet too……no way are you leaving in her with the “Meg” of this blog
August 14th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
It’s a great Camp day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Yes, it’s amazing how fast people change their stances in here…even the most ardent haters.
Here’s an example of a bandwagon-jumping hater trying to subtly climb aboard:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
MistaBrown Says:
You’ve been predicting 4-12 or 5-11 all off season. Did you forget or change meds?
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I said we could win 9 games *IF* Al doesn’t intervene. Speaking of medication, you ought to pick something up for the A.D.D.
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Actually, that could qualify as a HYPOCRITE ALERT for ol’ MR.
In MR’s world of overblown rants, Al is the reason for ALL of the Raiders failures…but would somehow be left out of the credits when the Raiders turn it around.
Pretty sneaky to say “we” could win 9 games if Al stays out of it…that way he can lean back and say, “I told ya so, things are different, and it worked.”
Yep…it’s the easiest way for a no-heart-for-the-longhaul bandwagon jumper to hop aboard, and claim to be a real fan all along.
TRUTH IS…and we all know it, MR — IF things are done differently around Raiders Camp, it’s BECAUSE of Al Davis, not in spite of him. For better or worse, Al’s ‘prints are all over this team…and however they perform this season will be a direct result of Al Davis’ doing.
Yes, it’s funny how some people change their tune…but they still sound just as bad.
It really is a great day to be a Raiders fan…and the haters don’t want to be left behind when the good times come back.
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You’re absolutely right. I was trying to be nice yesterday and give props to what I thought was improved defensive play, but I see it’s not going over too well. So, I’ll go back to my old guns. I said as long as Al’s here, we won’t win more than 5 games in a season. I’ll stick to that. And, I said that yesterday, too. I said that if Al didn’t meddle the team could win more games. But when you consider the fact that he admitted in that recent interview that he’s going to continue to meddle “greatly”, that’s obviously out of the question. The Raiders will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS suck as long as Al Davis is remotely involved with football operations. And if by way of some miracle they do actually win more games on Al’s watch, I won’t jump on the bandwagon. I’ll give you guys that much respect. I said I won’t support this team again until Al’s gone, I won’t. When he’s gone, I’m buying 2 season ticket seats. But as long as he’s here, I’m just going to watch the train wreck, and wait for homers like you to finally crawl from your rock on each thursday following another embarrassing loss. Here’s to another season, HayezDaze.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
DMAC needs to be on the field and most definitely needs some carries……I’m more than confident Hue will do as such….dont throw out the fact DMAC is not and never will be a ZBS runner….Hell Bush isnt really his damn self
…………………..if you move the teams doctors office on to the field,he will be on the field.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
fargas will have more yards with denver as a backup than loser dmac will have as a starter…dmac wont amount to anything your beating a dead horse.!!!!!!!!!
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Farglass is getting axed you idiot….guy cant play at all
……………….so is dmac getting axed.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
fargas will have more yards with denver as a backup than loser dmac will have as a starter…dmac wont amount to anything your beating a dead horse.!!!!!!!!!
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Farglass is getting axed you idiot….guy cant play at all
……………….so is dmac getting axed.
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LOL DMAC is getting cut? Crap Kidd shut up please….now you are just talking for the sake of it and not making sense…….its crazy to say this but having a football convo with MR is much better than having one with you……you are dismissed
August 14th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
It’s a great Camp day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Yes, it’s amazing how fast people change their stances in here…even the most ardent haters.
Here’s an example of a bandwagon-jumping hater trying to subtly climb aboard:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
MistaBrown Says:
You’ve been predicting 4-12 or 5-11 all off season. Did you forget or change meds?
…………..
I said we could win 9 games *IF* Al doesn’t intervene. Speaking of medication, you ought to pick something up for the A.D.D.
——————————-
Actually, that could qualify as a HYPOCRITE ALERT for ol’ MR.
In MR’s world of overblown rants, Al is the reason for ALL of the Raiders failures…but would somehow be left out of the credits when the Raiders turn it around.
Pretty sneaky to say “we” could win 9 games if Al stays out of it…that way he can lean back and say, “I told ya so, things are different, and it worked.”
Yep…it’s the easiest way for a no-heart-for-the-longhaul bandwagon jumper to hop aboard, and claim to be a real fan all along.
TRUTH IS…and we all know it, MR — IF things are done differently around Raiders Camp, it’s BECAUSE of Al Davis, not in spite of him. For better or worse, Al’s ‘prints are all over this team…and however they perform this season will be a direct result of Al Davis’ doing.
Yes, it’s funny how some people change their tune…but they still sound just as bad.
It really is a great day to be a Raiders fan…and the haters don’t want to be left behind when the good times come back.
……………………….
You’re absolutely right. I was trying to be nice yesterday and give props to what I thought was improved defensive play, but I see it’s not going over too well. So, I’ll go back to my old guns. I said as long as Al’s here, we won’t win more than 5 games in a season. I’ll stick to that. And, I said that yesterday, too. I said that if Al didn’t meddle the team could win more games. But when you consider the fact that he admitted in that recent interview that he’s going to continue to meddle “greatly”, that’s obviously out of the question. The Raiders will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS suck as long as Al Davis is remotely involved with football operations. And if by way of some miracle they do actually win more games on Al’s watch, I won’t jump on the bandwagon. I’ll give you guys that much respect. I said I won’t support this team again until Al’s gone, I won’t. When he’s gone, I’m buying 2 season ticket seats. But as long as he’s here, I’m just going to watch the train wreck, and wait for homers like you to finally crawl from your rock on each thursday following another embarrassing loss. Here’s to another season, HayezDaze.
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LOL MR…..you just wont give up eh? I can understand you not expecting the 10-6 season many predict on here but come on you really think 5 wins max?
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
DMac’s problem isn’t his talent. It’s his misuse and so far his durability. But his misuse has led to alot of his durability issues in my opinion.
And part of that misuse also had to do with a QB named Russell who couldn’t successfully complete a screen play from 3 yards away.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
al davis cut his losses with another loser j. russell,he will do the same with dmac,but in your fantasy world he may give him 10 more years than he will have that break-out year i keep hearing about.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
You know MR you talk all of that shhhhhhhh on Al and dont give him credit for finally waking up and getting a MLB…..let alone taking him in the top 10….do you know Al to do such a thing? Now what I’m waiting for is Al to quit forcing Cable to play Tommy Kelly……this will not work at all
August 14th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
DMac’s problem isn’t his talent. It’s his misuse and so far his durability. But his misuse has led to alot of his durability issues in my opinion.
And part of that misuse also had to do with a QB named Russell who couldn’t successfully complete a screen play from 3 yards away.
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See now that is more accurate….DMAC does have to show more I agree but dammit the coaches gotta do better than what they are doing
August 14th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
DMac’s problem isn’t his talent. It’s his misuse and so far his durability. But his misuse has led to alot of his durability issues in my opinion.
And part of that misuse also had to do with a QB named Russell who couldn’t successfully complete a screen play from 3 yards away.
………………..yes it is his talent ,in college he had holes you can drive a truck thru.now he is in the pros and cant cu
August 14th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
al davis cut his losses with another loser j. russell,he will do the same with dmac,but in your fantasy world he may give him 10 more years than he will have that break-out year i keep hearing about.
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You are a dumb lil kid lol….you know nothing at all!
Al finally gave in and cancelled Russell because the team gave up on him and he never had their back. Dmac comes and works hard doesnt show up late nor miss meetings…..sorry Crap Kidd……awful example to use….you further show your idiocy
August 14th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
DMac’s problem isn’t his talent. It’s his misuse and so far his durability. But his misuse has led to alot of his durability issues in my opinion.
And part of that misuse also had to do with a QB named Russell who couldn’t successfully complete a screen play from 3 yards away.
………………..yes it is his talent ,in college he had holes you can drive a truck thru.now he is in the pros and cant cu
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That’s false! You odnt have crazy gaping holes like that in the SEC…….see now you are copying what someone else said….you are pitiful lil guy
August 14th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
al davis cut his losses with another loser j. russell,he will do the same with dmac,but in your fantasy world he may give him 10 more years than he will have that break-out year i keep hearing about.
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You are a dumb lil kid lol….you know nothing at all!
Al finally gave in and cancelled Russell because the team gave up on him and he never had their back. Dmac comes and works hard doesnt show up late nor miss meetings…..sorry Crap Kidd……awful example to use….you further show your idiot………………………………………open your eyes he always out hurt……….put this on back of his jersey………fragile……….
August 14th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Name DMAC’s fullbacks in the NFL……….or his olinemen……maybe his QB? I’ll wait
August 14th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
al davis cut his losses with another loser j. russell,he will do the same with dmac,but in your fantasy world he may give him 10 more years than he will have that break-out year i keep hearing about.
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You are a dumb lil kid lol….you know nothing at all!
Al finally gave in and cancelled Russell because the team gave up on him and he never had their back. Dmac comes and works hard doesnt show up late nor miss meetings…..sorry Crap Kidd……awful example to use….you further show your idiot………………………………………open your eyes he always out hurt……….put this on back of his jersey………fragile……….
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Always out? Another false statement…….this is what women do…they make up stuff lol
August 14th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Out of 32 games he missed 7…….that isnt always….try try try again
August 14th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
You are losing bad Crap Kidd……its time for me to leave……..come back when you are ready to debate with me…..still wet behind the ears lol
August 14th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Goodnite all…….JUST WIN
August 14th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Name DMAC’s fullbacks in the NFL……….or his olinemen……maybe his QB? I’ll wait
………..he played with j.russell ,bruce gradkowski,charlie frye,and jp losman,it dont matter who is qb if you cant run the ball you cant run the ball period the end
August 14th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Fat Kidd, I’m gonna say this once. If you have watched any Raider games over the past 2 seasons then surely you remember his SECOND game as a Raider against the Kansas City Chiefs.
164 yards on 21 carries and a TD. Then he got injured with turf toe.
Like we’re saying. His issue is not one of talent. It has been durability and misuse by the play callers.
I’m not giving Mcfadden a free pass. He must stay healthy and produce. But they also need to use him correctly.
His issue is not at all his talent. When healthy, he remains one of the most potent offensive threats in the entire NFL.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
You are losing bad Crap Kidd……its time for me to leave……..come back when you are ready to debate with me…..still wet behind the ears lol
……………this must be your first debate i have it fat kidd 8 B is still the sauce 0
August 14th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Fat Kidd, I’m gonna say this once. If you have watched any Raider games over the past 2 seasons then surely you remember his SECOND game as a Raider against the Kansas City Chiefs.
164 yards on 21 carries and a TD. Then he got injured with turf toe.
Like we’re saying. His issue is not one of talent. It has been durability and misuse by the play callers.
I’m not giving Mcfadden a free pass. He must stay healthy and produce. But they also need to use him correctly.
His issue is not at all his talent. When healthy, he remains one of the most potent offensive threats in the entire NFL.
…………………..good what has he done lately?
August 14th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
spending most of your time on injured reserve does not get you in the hall of fame!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Raiders interim head coach Tom Cable, who took over after Kiffin was fired by owner Al Davis, was criticized for not playing McFadden later in the season.
Responding to criticism, Cable stated “Well what really dictated was the rotation we were in, terms of the game, the flow of the game. I think [Justin] Fargas played pretty well. It’s just those situations present themselves.”
Oakland Tribune writer Jerry McDonald responded to Cable’s statement, saying “If the flow of the game means keeping McFadden, an excellent receiving back, off the field on third down plays which call for a pass, then the flow needs to be changed by the play-caller.”
Marinate on that Fat Kidd. That’s why he hasn’t produced better than he has. End of story. You Lose. Just take it like a man and let’s move on.
We all have to wait and see what Mcfadden will do this year if given legitimate and consistent opportunities.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Raiders interim head coach Tom Cable, who took over after Kiffin was fired by owner Al Davis, was criticized for not playing McFadden later in the season.
Responding to criticism, Cable stated “Well what really dictated was the rotation we were in, terms of the game, the flow of the game. I think [Justin] Fargas played pretty well. It’s just those situations present themselves.”
Oakland Tribune writer Jerry McDonald responded to Cable’s statement, saying “If the flow of the game means keeping McFadden, an excellent receiving back, off the field on third down plays which call for a pass, then the flow needs to be changed by the play-caller.”
Marinate on that Fat Kidd. That’s why he hasn’t produced better than he has. End of story. You Lose. Just take it like a man and let’s move on.
We all have to wait and see what Mcfadden will do this year if given legitimate and consistent opportunities.
…………….you dont pay a rb 14 million a year to catch screen passes on third down.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
dmac is done the fatlady has sung!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
look at who i wanted to draft with our 8th pick cj spiller,he is in buffalo after 1 preseason game he is ready to take over as the starter,i am just better at reconizing talent better than you losers.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
here we go with the stupid dmac hate. damn this blog just gets worse every week it seems. so who is the next player everyone will hate on? i swear some people on here just have to biotch about something.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
armond Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
here we go with the stupid dmac hate. damn this blog just gets worse every week it seems. so who is the next player everyone will hate on? i swear some people on here just have to biotch about something.
………………………i will stop the dmac hate if someone with football knowledge can convince me otherwise,i keep hearing the same old violin music every year this year is a bust out year for dmac,well forget about last year this is a bust out year for dmac ,no i mean next year is a bust out year for dmac ,no i mean next year is a bust out year for dmac.one more big mac and i will bust out of my pants give me 10 million a year.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
winner winner chicken dinner.
August 14th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
I am going to mail my Russell jersey to his home in the south and ask for a refund. I burned my Moss jersey when the Patriots lost the superbowl, but I refuse to burn another Raiders jersey. Perhaps us Raiders fans, stuck with JaBustus gear can file a suit and partner with Al on a return on investment case.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:02 am
sorry but if you have a mcfadden jersey you will have too burn that,or just change the number on it and say its the other mcfadden.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:08 am
No McFadden jersey, I think I will go with my second choice for my last two purchases, Janikowsi. He will probably never make a Pro Bowl but he is a classic Raider.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:09 am
No McFadden jersey, I think my next purchase will be my second choice for the last two purchases, Janikowski. He will probably never make a Pro Bowl but he is a classic Raider.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:24 am
99
August 15th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Raiders defeated the Cowboys 17-9 in their first preseason game.
You take things with a grain of salt in the preseason, but there was a lot of telling information both for and against the Raiders. A few things I noticed:
Offense Is Still A Work In Progress
Jason Campbell made his debut as the Raiders new quarterback and the results were average to say the least. In this case, average is good for now.
Campbell finished 7-of-13 for 49 yards and zero turnovers before leaving the game midway in the second quarter.
Campbell looked very comfortable throwing to Zach Miller. Getting Chaz Schilens completely healthy is a must.
The offensive line seemed particularly shaky in the middle. Samson Satele looked to be overpowered repeatedly while he manned the center position. Although he’s regressed, a call to Kevin Mawae might be an option to look into.
It’s only one preseason game, but it would have been nice to have Darrius Heyward-Bey make a couple of catches this game.
Reports say DHB has greatly improved this offseason. A couple of catches would have added to the confidence boost and temporarily quell some of the criticism.
Defensive Front Seven Was Impressive
This offseason, the Raiders were intent on solving their deficiency in stopping the run. The front seven seemed swift as they swarmed to the ball.
In total, the Cowboys had 22 rush attempts for 66 yards. Not bad.
The line was able to get pressure on Tony Romo, with rookie Lamar Houston and Matt Shaughnessy getting two sacks each. It was also interesting to see Houston and Shaughnessy still playing late in the fourth quarter.
The Raiders need to find where their sacks will come from this year, and having both the young starters getting extra snaps is good for them.
Bruce Campbell Finishes Plays
For someone who seems so unsure of his potential, Bruce Campbell made a couple of nice blocks to spring both Michael Bennett and Rock Cartwright for good gains.
He did have a couple “chicken with his head cut off” looking plays, but he did a good job of sticking with his man and riding them until the play is finished.
Hopefully this will be a confidence booster for when he eventually faces a first-team defense.
Penalties…
It’s expected to have some problems with penalties when you are trying to get all of your players some time, but this one particular segment was rather ugly.
During Kyle Boller’s first series, the Raiders had three penalties, two of them were consecutive and one was declined to make it fourth down. Every play that wasn’t a penalty went for zero or negative yards. In total, there were nine penalties for 63 yards.
Other Random Things I Noticed
–Congratulations to the Cowboy’s announcers for the title of, “fewest amount of references to an opposing team ever.” Watching another teams local broadcast of a game, you expect there to be a bias in favor of the team that employs them. Even with that in mind, the lack of Raider discussion (besides the negative stuff) was surprising.
Of all the local broadcasts I’ve watched, they all have a graphic to show the opposing teams names and positions. Not the Cowboys.
Normally, the play-by-play announcer will let you know who makes the offensive play as well as who makes the defensive stop. For example, the announcer says Jason Witten makes a catch and then proceeds to say Nnamdi Asomugha is the person who tackled him.
Not if you’re the Cowboys announcer. It seemed the announcers would only call a Raider by name if they absolutely had to.
Maybe this is just a preseason thing so they don’t have any extra work to do. It was still strange.
– Nick Miller looked much quicker than I thought he would be. I’m also not so sure he got his feet down on that fourth quarter touchdown.
- I was expecting Tony Romo to spit on the microphone when he was being interviewed late in the fourth quarter.
– Someone should interview punter/kicker Swayze Waters on why his parents gave him that first name.
– This recap is coming nearly a day after the game was played because I couldn’t watch it until the NFL Network broadcast.
– I was hoping to see some of Colt Brennan during the game. He said he could fake his way through even with limited practice. That would have been really fun, or really ugly, to watch.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:57 am
@107
Not that I am defending MR, but he has a point and just because there is optimism in Raider Nation here and now, it isn’t because of Al. It’s because Coach Cable has those boys attention, they are playing for him not Al. It takes more that picking your roster and demanding that certain plays be ran regardless if those plays are viable in the current NFL. It takes making those paycheck players play for more than just that. To take 52 men and mold them into a team is something Al doesn’t have steady hand in. Sure he is there watching but these guys are not playing for him, that is easy to see. In fact, Al’s interview I intially thought was about getting fans in the seats, but I actually think it was in response to Cable saying it was his team (which it is). That is why he had to go and say he contributes greatly (read he makes the coaches run the “single high safety (Mitchell)” and makes the coaches keep certain players (scholarship) instead of cutting them. Oh yes, Al drafts players, but no one ever said he didn’t have an eye for talent, it’s the intangibles he doesn’t have an eye for. If we win this season, give Al his due because he will make everyone pay (Gruden) if he thinks he hasn’t gotten it, but also give Cable his due because he is the man that molded it.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:19 am
armond Says:
August 14th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
here we go with the stupid dmac hate. damn this blog just gets worse every week it seems. so who is the next player everyone will hate on? i swear some people on here just have to biotch about something.
…………………………….OKAY WE WILL CHEER FOR DMAC ………dmac stopped for no gain yeah!!!!!dmac has turf toe..yeah!!!!!!dmac has a high ankle sprain..yeah!!!!!!dmac wont be able to play till preseason game three.yeah!!!!!!dmac has a strained hammy.yeah!!!!!dmac fumbles again..yeah!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:23 am
dmac should not only be thrown under the bus it should be put in reverse and back over him.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:54 am
maybe dmac can have a career in hollywood ,hot tub therapy time machine but football not his forte.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:55 am
145,anyone throwing DMac under the bus is a moron,he must be allowed to WORK w/Jackson as OC,Period.Not an opinion,but Fact!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:59 am
see j russell loser dmac loser hendu loser javon walker loser i am 4 for 4
August 15th, 2010 at 2:03 am
dmac has more excuses than carter has liver pills
August 15th, 2010 at 2:08 am
JOIN The NO MORE EXCUSES for DMAC CLUB !!!!INCLUDES A FREE CUT DMAC T-SHIRT.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:09 am
Hey skinny kid,fat kid,who are you? 147 is real,you dont like it,I dont care! Time w/ the OC,PERIOD! OUT!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:13 am
DMAC HAS GOOD HANDS good upper body strenght and legs like kim kardshian time with the oc cant fix that period!!!cut him move on.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:54 am
Does It Smell Anymore?” with Dhani Jones….dmac he smells…..thanks Dhani………..
August 15th, 2010 at 3:31 am
“Elbert Jovante Woods, the 16-year old son of former Bengals running back Ickey Woods, died Saturday evening three days after suffering a massive asthma attack.
Jovante was set to begin his junior season on the Princeton High School’s varsity team and had a 3.8 GPA. He suffered the attack at home in the evening, after having practiced with the team that morning”.
From Profootballtalk.Very sad news.
August 15th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Pito
August 15th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Just watched the replay of the game again on NFL Network; the whole time, I just wanted to strangle Bab Laufenberg. The Cowboys’ broadcast team is absolutely horrible — about as bad as the Cowboy offensive line. Offensive false start penalties for us were bad – big Langston Walker was asleep a lot, as was Satele. Short passing game looked pretty good, although the receivers need to at least get to the marker! We had the opportunity to get a field goal earlier (what the hell was that?!) and then Dallas gave us a gift when their linebaker dropped an easy INT, resulting in our go-ahead field goal. Not a horrible outing; good for the defensive front. Houston and Murphy played well; and yes, TK played well too.
August 15th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Murphy played alright, but I was thinkling more about Mitchell’s play.
August 15th, 2010 at 6:40 am
THINKING, not “thinkling’!
August 15th, 2010 at 6:47 am
“buenos días”
August 15th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Quisiera una mesa por favor.
August 15th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Whoever gave the analysis on #142 was pretty much spot on.
The middle of the line is a very legit concern. Both Satele and CC were getting pushed off the ball. The pockets did NOT look pretty at all imo. I’ll watch the replay again today but it was a concern when I saw it the first time.
On the other hand, Bruce Campbell and V were actually getting push! They were pushing the Cowgirls OFF the ball! Now having V start may be a stretch because he has to call the protections; but for Campbell not so much so. Cable has to see this and should be working hard to get these boys in the starting lineup or at least see what they can do vs. the 1s in short order.
The protection has to get better if the team is going to make it anywhere. Campbell was a little rushed sometimes and the pockets were ugly.
IF they can sure up the protection more this team can possibly be above .500 and fight for the division. Better OL play can compensate for a suspect WR corp and catipult the run game tremendously.
August 15th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Dixon looked good with the Steelers last night.
Sage had a good night too
August 15th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Good morning Nation! Glad to see the dline kick butt vs cowgirls. I noticed on bspn that Mankin still hasnt reported. He would be a nice addition to the oline. Maybe trading a lb (thomas howard) and a 4th round picke for him.
August 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
I was flicking through channels and caught some of Charlie Whiehurst with Seattle. He actually looks pretty legit. Good pocket awareness and a strong accurate arm. Is he there number three QB?
August 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Pitos
August 15th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Looking ahead to the 2nd pre-season game I look for our passing game to click a little more. JC was calm in the pocket, no happy feet. He was accurate. The long pass to Murphy was right on the money, one other he led him out of bounds slightly. We likely will see J Ford & Grads out there. Not a bad showing at all for a new unit trying to gel the exception being the O-line but they have 3 weeks to get it together, and they better!
Cut Fry and let Brennan & Boller fight out the 3rd spot.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Draft time I was the only one calling for a stud FB to be drafted now I see FB is an area of “concern”. Better late than never, experts!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:02 am
MistaBrown, no you weren’t. I was too. I was asking for Matt Clapp or John Conner.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Biggest needs:
C (sign Mawae, let him be a mentor to Veldheer and Satele)
OT (Jared Gaither can play both sides of the line, and could probably be snagged for a late-round pick because he’ll likely miss the rest of the preseason due to the small tear )
CB (unless Walter McFadden can make a push for CJ’s job)
WR (a veteran presence would go a long way…)
FS (time to see if Mitchell or Branch can make the conversion)
RB (Marshawn Lynch, anyone?)
FB (Pick up whichever FB the Jets cut… Tony Richardson could be a great locker room presence)
August 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
*small tear in his back
August 15th, 2010 at 9:16 am
YA,
I agree with FB, C, and maybe WR.
Our FS, CB, OT (Veldheer at RT & Super Mario at LT) and RB are good enough!!
We need C & FB!!! It’s hard to tell if we need a WR when we don’t block well, and Chaz has been injured.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:22 am
CJ gets a lot of work for 2 Reasons:
1- Nnamdi is on the other side!
2- Nnamdi doesn’t always cover the best WR, co CJ has to cover guys like Ausin, Marshall, Andre Johnson, etc….
I wanted us to trade for Antonio Cromartie. We can still get him, after the jets sign Revis and can’t afford to sign AC too.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I say FS because, as Jerry mentioned, it’s the final year of Huff’s contract. Not sure if he’s worth resigning. It’s time to see whether Mitchell and Branch can get the job done.
Branch was not all that good when they put him there last season, and Mitchell isn’t known for his coverage, but the more reps they see at that position the more the coaching staff will find out.
It doesn’t seem that the coaching staff wants to try Veldheer at RT. And Langston Walker is a liability on the outside and always has been.
CB could be a position of strength, but we just don’t know. As I said before, the Raiders need a backup plan for CJ, because he’s not getting any younger and Routt seems incapable of filling that role. Hopefully Walter McFadden can push him this season or next season, and be the most picked on CB in the league.
RB is another position where there’s some depth, but seemingly not a lot. Honestly, given the injury history of all the backs on the roster besides Bush, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Raiders keep four RBs. Can Bennett and Cartwright cut it in the regular season against real defenses? How much do the 32 and 30 year old(respectively) backs have left in the tank? That remains to be seen.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Stop the Fat Monkey from destroying this OL and some good talent!!!!!
Sign/ trade for a C!!!!!
Plug Veldheer at RT!!!!!
Let Campbell, Walker, Barnes, and Cooper compete for RG!!!!
Fire the Fat Monkey!! I’m sick of him trying to plug square pigs in round holes!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:31 am
I’d really like to see Walker at RG. He won’t be such a liability against outside rushers. All he needs to do then is get over those mental mistakes (namely, all the drive-killing false starts).
I’d also really like to see what Veldheer can do at RT, but I guess the Raiders coaching staff doesn’t agree.
Either way, I’m hoping they draft a center in the 2nd round next season. Mike Pouncey could be ideal. If not, Notre Dame seems to crank out a lot of NFL-caliber centers, and Dan Wenger will be entering the draft next season. Might be a 3rd rounder.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Never seen you in here in my life.
lol
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YoungAmerican Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:02 am
MistaBrown, no you weren’t. I was too. I was asking for Matt Clapp or John Conner.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Haha pay attention, man! I’ve been here for a couple seasons now.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Serious?
August 15th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Serious as a heart attack.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I cosign on YoungAmerican being around for a while..
August 15th, 2010 at 9:41 am
O-line and FB are directly essential to the running game & pass protection. Cable is incapable of getting those 2 things in order!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:42 am
why isn’t Mawae playing? something must be wrong for someone not to have him.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:43 am
I will cosign with you 408.
Where is 4eva Bro, and how is Roxy and the Farm!?!?!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Cable was O-line coach for 2 years before taking over for Kiffin or 3 ?
And we are still struggling there? Unacceptable!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Hobs,
He is Old, and represents the players union. No one likes an Old Fat union Monkey! lol
I blame Mich!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
The past week has really shown us how well DMAC can do when he focuses on ball security.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Can you co-sign he was calling for FB in the draft?
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408RAIDER Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I cosign on YoungAmerican being around for a while..
August 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Hey O
4eva is umm in transition. I haven’t heard from him in about 2 months. He seems in good spirits tho..
August 15th, 2010 at 9:46 am
BsJ does beating a dead horse give you some kind of sick pleasure ?
August 15th, 2010 at 9:46 am
I give Cable credit for turning Robert Gallery into a legitimate NFL lineman (albeit not a left tackle…) but outside of that, I haven’t seen much else from him directly.
There seems to be renewed hope in the locker room this season, but that might speak more about the absence of He Who Shall Not Be Dranked… er… Named…
August 15th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Young I dont give Cable credit for that because Gallery failed at LT and guard was the only other place for him to go. In other words “no-brainer”
August 15th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Yeah, it does seem like a no-brainer to take a guy who can’t handle the outside rush without holding and put him on the inside.
Which is why it seems so puzzling that Langston Walker is still at tackle…
August 15th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Speaking of Mich & fat union monkeys. What’s up Preppie?
August 15th, 2010 at 9:50 am
MistaBrown
no I cant do that as I hardly read the comments anymore. Now that its Football season Ill be back tho.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Point proven.
I’m trying get behind Cable but he is just a block head!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Haha pay attention, man! I’ve been here for a couple seasons now.
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Never caught you here ever! LMFAO
August 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Ok 408,
Young I will take you at your word..
FB wanted…Apply at Alameda!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Good Morning NATION!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:56 am
MistaBrown Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:46 am
BsJ does beating a dead horse give you some kind of sick pleasure ?
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I deeloped a taste for it from 2000 – 2008, lol.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Bout to watch the whiners catch a beat down! Have a great day Nation..
August 15th, 2010 at 9:57 am
I’m trying get behind Cable but he is just a block head!
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Same here, I want to get behind him, but his decision making is confusing. Maybe he wants to show that he doesn’t need highly-touted linemen to run his scheme? It just seems kind of arrogant to me that he thinks his coaching will overcome all the offensive line’s shortcomings.
It’s one of those things that almost makes you think Big Al is actually the crazy, meddling puppet master that everyone says he is. But I don’t think that’s completely true (although Al Davis does have a way of making his opinion known). The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but obviously the only people who really know are within the organization and won’t say sh*t…
August 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
BSJ
Trade DMAC for a dead horse! lol
August 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
I’m at Starbucks enjoying the free wi-fi they have for customers.
I’m reading through some post and came across
NoLuv4Hoes Says:
Got a little curious…so I clicked on his name and got a sight that was pretty embarrassing in front of these latte sippin customers!!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Thanks 408. Tell him to come back ASAP. The season has started, so he needs to be here.
4eva, my fav farmer!!!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Im out….talk to you guys later!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Happy Sunday Nation!
My Mid-Camp 53
QB – J.Campbell(8)/Gradkowski(5)/Boller(7)
RB – Bush(29)/D.Mcfadden(20)/Bennett(32)/Cartwright(25)
FB – Reece(45)/Tonga(41)
WR – Shillens(81)/Murphy(18)/DHB(85)/Higgins(15)/Ford(12)/N. Miller(89)
TE – Z. Miller(80)/Stewart(86)/Myers(83)
LT – M.Henderson(75)/Veldheer(68)
LG – Gallery(76)/Carlisle(66)
C – Satele (64)/Morris(51)
RG – Loper(60)/B.Campbell(74)
RT – Walker(70)/Barnes(69)
DT – Seymour(92)/J.Henderson(79)/Kelly(93)/Bryant(90)
DE – Shaughnessy(77)/Houston(99)/Richardson(98)/Gunheim(97)
ILB- McClain(35)/Howard(53)/S.Williams(54)
OLB- Scott(91)/Wimbley(96)/Groves(52)
CB – Asomugha(21)/C.Johnson(37)/Routt(26)/W.McFadden(22)
S – Huff(24)/Branch(33)/Mitchell(34)/S.Brown(27)
K – Janikowski(11)
P – Lechler(9)
LS – Condo(59)
Practice Squad:
DE: Alex Daniels(71)
DB: Jeremy Ware(23)
DT: Kellen Heard(67)
OG: Alex Parsons(65)
RB: Chane Moline(40)
LB: Travis Goethel(48)
FS: Jerome Boyd(30)
K: Swayze Waters(1)
Sign Mawae!
Go Raiders!! (1-0)
August 15th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Preppie,
I’m not ignorant! lol
August 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am
The funny thing is, everyone says that Al Davis loves mean, nasty, formerly dominant players with a questionable amount left in the tank. So you’d think Mawae would be a no-brainer. It’s one of those times that I wish the all the things the media says about Big Al were true…
August 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Al is not the only team passing on Mawae all 32 are taking a pass so why do you want Al to be the 1 sucker?
August 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Ted,
I think 6 HBs and 6 WRs is too much, sows are thin at OL with 10 players. I think we need 11. Look at last year.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I think we should let it play out regarding Cable …
He’s done an excellent job remaking the Dline and LBs.
McFadden looks like a player.
I don’t know that there were better Oline guys available in rd 3 or 4 than Veldheer and Campbell. And we certainly can’t complain about McClain and Houston in rd 1 or 2. No way in heck I trade those 2 picks back in.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Well, he’d only be a sucker if Mawae wasn’t any better than Satele or Morris. I would argue that there’s no way he could be any worse, and at the very least would be a welcome locker room presence.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Wiggle,
Cable had NOTHING to do with the D-line thats why its looking up! Look at his O-line it is the weakest link on the team for arguably the last 5 years!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
So we will be thin at*
August 15th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Al is not the only team passing on Mawae all 32 are taking a pass so why do you want Al to be the 1 sucker?
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Really!
Same with Gaither and these other guys NO ONE wanted. They should start for us?
August 15th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Really!
Same with Gaither and these other guys NO ONE wanted. They should start for us?
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Is Gaither better than Langston Walker? Because that’s all that matters for Oakland.
Apparently the Ravens want him enough to keep him on their roster in spite of him missing the preseason and the fact that they have Michael Oher on the left side. But that also means that he could be gotten for a later-round pick (even in the early offseason it would have only taken a second rounder).
August 15th, 2010 at 10:13 am
J,
I like all the picks. All of them!
Campbell and Veldheer are great picks too, but Vekdheer is not being used right IMHO as an Arm Chair GM.
We need a RT, and Barnes & Walker play better inside as Gs, so why play the guy at a new position when he can just play RT. We then let Barnes/ Cooper/ Walker/ Campbell (not in order) compete for RG.
Then we can focus on adding a C, or maybe Satele will have enough help that he will improve!
I’m a great Arm Chair GM!
GMO!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Veldheer*
August 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I’m curious to see how Mario Henderson will fare against Julius Peppers and Lance Briggs next week.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:22 am
RR will be happy!
We started with B O O, then PEF, and now we have GMO!
We are building an empire!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
# Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Ted,
… sows are thin at OL with 10 players. I think we need 11.
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I agree, but I don’t think we have a good 11th guy on the roster – we need to sign Mawae.
I wouldn’t care if we lost Routt, Howard, Reece, Cartwright/Bennet, or N. Miller.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Its hard to get upset about the O-Line. Let’s face it, the draft top draft picks were used for:
Michael Huff
Thomas Howard
JaDavis
Zach Miller
Darren McFadden
DHB
Mike Mitchell
Then consider that the two top O-Lineman we took:
Robert Gallery – Semi-bust & not the elite talent
Jake Grove – Off the team replaced by Satele
So there you have it. The defensive front 7 was also neglected AND HAD TO BE ADDRESSED this year. There was no way to fix the O-Line because of the poor draft strategy deployed in prior years.
Hopefully Cable can coach them up AND those so-called “skill position” players (sans JaDavis) man up!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:36 am
and don’t forget the 2nd round pick that was traded for deAngelo “the d is silent” Hall.
Absolute and total neglect of the O-Line. No coach can fix that.
Kwame Harris was not the answer..just like Satele and Walker ain’t the answer.
The team was TERRIBLE the last few years….can’t rebuild it all in one draft/offseason
August 15th, 2010 at 10:49 am
alex Smiiiith! bwahahahaha!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Absolute and total neglect of the O-Line. No coach can fix that.
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Sad but true.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
BigTed707,
Al Davis lost his mind with the draft picks of the last few years. A bunch of defensive backs, receivers, running backs, Purple Drank QB and a safety masqerading as a linebacker….at he got Zach Miller right…a guy that was totally not in the mold of the typical draft pick…
So the O-Line is where its at. We have to deal with it and move on. If it brings down the offense…so be it..this is a defense 1st team anyway. Just don’t turn the ball over
August 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Al Davis lost his mind with the draft picks of the last few years. A bunch of defensive backs, receivers, running backs, Purple Drank QB and a safety masqerading as a linebacker….at he got Zach Miller right…a guy that was totally not in the mold of the typical draft pick…
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Fortunately, Al has had some draft success in the later rounds… Aso, Murphy, Branch, Bush and, hopefully, Veldheer… I think DHB was really the worst pick, its always a crapshoot.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am
The funny thing is, everyone says that Al Davis loves mean, nasty, formerly dominant players with a questionable amount left in the tank.
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No doubt. That’s where Javon Walker came in.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Tax The Weed! Smoke the Rich!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:13 am
#224 SnB
You mean to tell me we cant fix all the problems overnight?
What if Al was the best GM in sports?
What if he was 50, not 80?
What if Cable was not a puppet?
What if we listened to all the semi pro bloggers who always get it right after a few years?
If only Al was as smart as everyone else, all the problems would be solved.
Thanks for bringing common sense to the discussion table
August 15th, 2010 at 11:13 am
BigTEd,
My issue with the last few picks back to 2006 was that the Raiders didn’t even bother to draft a lineman in the top 2 rounds…until this year.
I just say this to explain the situation we find the O-Line in.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
SnB,
I agree with what you said, but we did draft 2 OL this year. Veldheer & Campbell. Campbell may not be ready to Start, but Veldheer can. Play Vledheer at RT since he played LT (easy switch), and let Campbell develop and compete with Walker/ Barnes/ Cooper at RG.
The only weakness on that OL will be the C position, and we can focus on that one position.
Btw, having help at RG & LG may help overcome that weakness.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Plunketthead,
Davis made big-time mistakes the last few years. Let’s not sit and pretend that this is all some sort of accident beyond the control of the Raiders.
You don’t draft lineman for several years AND you rely on marginal free agents and low round picks….you probably won’t have good lineplay…surprise, surprise.
Cooper Carlisle, Cornell Greene, were stop-gaps….Gallery was supposed to be the man not Henderson…the Center position washed out too.
Nothing was done to strengthen this line except for marginal also-rans like Kwame Harris and Langston Walker.
So we have to eat it now. The o-line will struggle. Fortunately the Raiders fixed the front 7 with a total makeover. Hopefully the defense can be dominant and carry the team by keeping the score low.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Raider O,
To me, Campbell and Veldheer are developmental picks. REad…not expected to be solid full-time contributors for at least another year or two.
If they were day-1 players, they would have been drafted earlier.
Hopefully they surprise and overcome whatever handicapps they have….but I think expecting a rookie LT from Division III to catapult into a starting Center in the NFL when said player NEVER PLAYED THE POSITION BEFORE…is a bit rich
Bruce Campbell is just plain raw. Throwing him out there before he’s ready could damage his confidence. Just because Carlisle is over the hill, does not mean you just throw a raw high potential rookie out there. If Carlisle is not the answer…they would be better off moving Barnes or Walker inside
August 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Fat Monkey,
Do this:
RT: Veldheer, Barnes
RG: Walker/ Cooper/ Campbell
C: Satele, and add another C
LG: Gallery, Campbell
LT: Super Mario, Pears
See what we have in Alex Parsons!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:29 am
SnB,
I agree about Campbell, but not Veldheer. The kid is ready to start, and the Fat Monkey is making him learn a new position!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
SnB,
To be more clear: I want Veldheer to start at RT!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
SnB,
To be more clear: I want Veldheer to start at RT!
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This would make more sense to me too.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Fat Monkey,
Do this:
- We can then add a FB after roster cuts (from Jets), and add another C & cut Morris.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
It’s no secret to Cable that the Oline needs help, and at what positions.
RG from last year = cut
If Okung or Williams drops to us = new LT
Cable feels the 2 rookies best chances to see the field soon are at RG and C = he knows Carlisle and Satele suck.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
SnB,
Look @ post 240, and that’s how I want it our OL to look like.
Then all we have to do as a C and a FB.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I agree Al made more then his share of mistakes. However you cant blame all the draft woes on him. First round drafting is almost as much of a coin flip then anything else.
Theres just no way to pick a sure thing. Some get injured, some just cant cut it, some cant cut it and have never worked hard at it before and wont know. Some are just head cases, look at Rickey Williams and Coffee. Some cant stop eating or drinking/drugging.
Gallery was a pro bowler for the ten years according to probaly 99% of the knowitalls.
You just never know
August 15th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:29 am
SnB,
I agree about Campbell, but not Veldheer. The kid is ready to start, and the Fat Monkey is making him learn a new position!
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What is the resoning for V playing C? Maybe with his stature he can hanle it. I was calling for us to take a C in the first with some trade down and aquire picks. How do we know that V is not capable of starting at the C. Obviously the guys who run the team have a better idea…
August 15th, 2010 at 11:38 am
J,
The Fat Monkey is trying to plug a square pig in a round hole.
Veldheer should start at RT, and not worry about trying to learn a new position. Easy to switch a LT to RT than LT to C!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I don’t mind Cable trying some of the developmental players at new positions. Good teams do that all the time (Baltimore, for instance). But I’d like to see him give some of these guys a chance at the spot they actually play, too. Especially when there are glaring inadequacies at those positions (read: Langston Walker).
August 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Bruce Campbell is just plain raw. Throwing him out there before he’s ready could damage his confidence. Just because Carlisle is over the hill, does not mean you just throw a raw high potential rookie out there. If Carlisle is not the answer…they would be better off moving Barnes or Walker inside
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BC is a rookie, however he and V were getting massive push, and in pass protect look good. niners will be startind 2 rooks on the oline their first real game…
We drafted these guys to play, lets throw them in the mix now. they cannot be as bad as the “so called vets”.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:31 am
I’d really like to see Walker at RG. He won’t be such a liability against outside rushers. All he needs to do then is get over those mental mistakes (namely, all the drive-killing false starts).
I’d also really like to see what Veldheer can do at RT, but I guess the Raiders coaching staff doesn’t agree.
Either way, I’m hoping they draft a center in the 2nd round next season. Mike Pouncey could be ideal. If not, Notre Dame seems to crank out a lot of NFL-caliber centers, and Dan Wenger will be entering the draft next season. Might be a 3rd rounder.
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Draft Stephen Wisniewski in roun 1/2!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Thec,
The guy who runs the team couldn’t call plays, has a Soft camp & Practice, and he is a Fat Monkey!
He is also suppose to be an OL Guru, and that has been the teams weakness since he became HC!!!
I don’t trust the Fat Monkey!! K Harris anyone?!?
August 15th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Plunkethead,
I am not crticizing the fact a lot of those picks were busts….although the emphasis on speed was not helpful.
No, my issue is not drafting lineman with a top pick for so many years. Now, maybe they had a legit reason for doing that…I am done arguing the who’s and who nots.
If you don’t draft lineman (offense or defense) for several years AND you don’t develop lower round picks or get premium free agents…that position over time is going to be garbage. Especially when those lines were bad to begin with.
I am happy they fixed the defense, for the most part. I really don’t care about the offense. Just run the ball. I love the defense and I love watching good defense. If they lose a bunch of games 16-13…I won’t be all that upset about it. They have next year to fix the O-Line and Receiving corps
August 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Veldheer should play RT!!! Period!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:46 am
YoungAmerican Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I don’t mind Cable trying some of the developmental players at new positions. Good teams do that all the time (Baltimore, for instance). But I’d like to see him give some of these guys a chance at the spot they actually play, too. Especially when there are glaring inadequacies at those positions (read: Langston Walker).
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I would argee on this comment as we ten to do a lot of tinkering, however we may have found something unexpectedly in V playing C. V looked good on the line, and IMHO should be starting somewhere on the oline. Now I guess the Q is where does the org beleive he is better suited, or where he can have the biggest impact. Bottom line is V needs to be on the field…
August 15th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Since when are 3rd and 4th rd picks not ready to be day 1 contributors? Especially at C and OG?
C is much more of a concern than RT, IMO. Rewatched the game this morning, and Satele just doesn’t engage. He’s more of a get in the way blocker which is why he gets rag dolled a lot. Chris Morris is NOT a capable backup. Veldheer is NEEDED at C. Only think holding him back is learning the playbook. But if a rookie can be the QB of our defense, don’t know why we don’t think Veldheer can learn the line calls.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Veldheer should play RT!!! Period!!!
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thats your opinion, thats cool however, if he pans out at C, that where he will be. I trust the judgement of the fols working with him, than most opinions on this blog….
August 15th, 2010 at 11:48 am
What’s up Raccoon?
We don’t have a 1st RD pick next year bro. We traded it for Seymour. Good trade iMHO, and now it’s a great trade since he moved to DT.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Center is definitely the most glaring need on the team, especially in a 3-4 heavy division where the center has to take on those big NTs.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Thec,
How dare you sir imply that the Fat Monkey knows more than GMO?!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Thec,
Campbell and Veldheer were playing in the 2nd half against other developmental players. Not the same thing.
Hopefully those kids get ready. I need to see them against 1st teamers before I would throw them out there to start.
This is not Madden 11….there are tricks to the trade that even the best rookies and young players struggle with and get exploited. The last thing we need is to see these kids struggle mightily and bring down both the offense and their confidence.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
What you need to understand about Bruce Campbell is everything is happening 2 yards off the LOS after he pushes his man BACKWARDS! I can live with his mistakes that happen after than 2 yds push. PLUS he is not making mistakes every play.
Carlisle on the other hands, makes mistakes while GETTING pushed backwards. Can’t tell you how many times he was on roller skates Thursday night. ZERO anchor or push.
Would rather have Campbell’s rookie mistakes right now versus Carlisle whiffs.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
V <——- Needs first team reps at C…
V <——- Needs to learn the playbook asap….
V <——- the best C on the Raiders
V <——- As soon as he learns the playbook should be named the starter…
Period..
August 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Thec,
Did you trust Art Shell and the B & B guy too? lol
August 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
And I agree with you. The oline was neglected. But it will be fixed. Al has been stocking what he hopes will be playmakers
August 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Veldheer should start at RT, and not worry about trying to learn a new position.
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He has played C before so it’s not that foriegn to him. He looked really good there in the game, so I don’t see what the issue is. I understand the RT issue, but Barnes or Pears can play there. No plan B for C mayne.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:56 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Since when are 3rd and 4th rd picks not ready to be day 1 contributors? Especially at C and OG?
C is much more of a concern than RT, IMO. Rewatched the game this morning, and Satele just doesn’t engage. He’s more of a get in the way blocker which is why he gets rag dolled a lot. Chris Morris is NOT a capable backup. Veldheer is NEEDED at C. Only think holding him back is learning the playbook. But if a rookie can be the QB of our defense, don’t know why we don’t think Veldheer can learn the line calls.
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JHill,
A 3rd or 4th round pick that comes out of the gate and starts is a surprise. A 3rd or 4th round pick that comes out of the gates and starts at an entirely new position is a miracle.
You guys are putting waaaaaaaaay too much on these young kids. A few are able to come in early…usually running backs…but a Division III left tackle starting at Center in the NFL at a position that he has never played before….come on man.
You all canput that in your bank accounts if you want. I would rather say that seeing McClain and Houston transform the defense will be the story of 2010.
Sorry folks, the offense is going to go through the paces another year. It just needs more talent ant O-Line and Wide Receiver before it can take off.
Fortunately, this defense should keep them in most games. Thank goodness!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:56 am
V = RT !!!!! Period!!!!!!!!
Campbell = Project !!!!! He has Talent!!! Shoukd play G or OT!!! Period!!!!
Cable = Fat Monkey !!!!!!! Period!!!!!
GMO = Knows Best !!!! Period!!!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Thec,
Campbell and Veldheer were playing in the 2nd half against other developmental players. Not the same thing.
Hopefully those kids get ready. I need to see them against 1st teamers before I would throw them out there to start.
This is not Madden 11….there are tricks to the trade that even the best rookies and young players struggle with and get exploited. The last thing we need is to see these kids struggle mightily and bring down both the offense and their confidence.
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1. I dont know anything about madden 11, I dont play video games, so you must be a coach who ca interpret football I.Q…..doubt it…
2. I watch the game, V and BC looked as if they were playing against high schoolers…
3. I have called for them to get first tem reps to see how they fare…
4. Those two look bettewr than aything currently playing thos positions.
5. Niners will be sarting iupati, and brown first real game they play… 2 rookies….
August 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:56 am
V = RT !!!!! Period!!!!!!!!
Campbell = Project !!!!! He has Talent!!! Shoukd play G or OT!!! Period!!!!
Cable = Fat Monkey !!!!!!! Period!!!!!
GMO = Knows Best !!!! Period!!!!!!
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when you get paid for your opinions then i will take you serious…
August 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
What you need to understand about Bruce Campbell is everything is happening 2 yards off the LOS after he pushes his man BACKWARDS! I can live with his mistakes that happen after than 2 yds push. PLUS he is not making mistakes every play.
Carlisle on the other hands, makes mistakes while GETTING pushed backwards. Can’t tell you how many times he was on roller skates Thursday night. ZERO anchor or push.
Would rather have Campbell’s rookie mistakes right now versus Carlisle whiffs.
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Morning Fellas.
I rewatched the game as well. I agree with J Wiggles observations.
Veldheer and B Campbell got great push and FINISHED.
Campbell at times lost leverage, but only after he’s blown His man back 2 yards.
I also liked how he got to the 2nd level… fast.
Pulling for him is not a problem.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Should*
V = RT !!!
Campbell = RG !!!!
Period!!!!
Thank God I have Madden 11!!! I can do whatever I want!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Thec,
Did you trust Art Shell and the B & B guy too? lol
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O, did you pick up football last week?
August 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Campbell and Veldheer were playing in the 2nd half against other developmental players. Not the same thing.
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They started playing the 2nd series of the 2nd QUARTER!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Thec,
I get paid for my opinions, but they are not football related. Are going to take me serious?! lol
August 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
What you need to understand about Bruce Campbell is everything is happening 2 yards off the LOS after he pushes his man BACKWARDS! I can live with his mistakes that happen after than 2 yds push. PLUS he is not making mistakes every play.
Carlisle on the other hands, makes mistakes while GETTING pushed backwards. Can’t tell you how many times he was on roller skates Thursday night. ZERO anchor or push.
Would rather have Campbell’s rookie mistakes right now versus Carlisle whiffs.
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Let’s see that push against 1st team opponents before we “crown his azz”
Rookie mistakes on the o-Line is nice to talk about..but seeing it on the field is pretty ugly.
See DHB in 2009!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I do beleive that the org has a better handle of what the youngsters are capable of. More so than any of the poster on this blog….
August 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Thec,
Did you hear about a game called football? It’s interesting! They have a league called the NFL! Try Wiki!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Carlisle gets his ass handed to him on a regular basis.
Any combination of our current linemen that gets him out of the 1st unit, would be a positive move. imo.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
but a Division III left tackle starting at Center in the NFL at a position that he has never played before….come on man.
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The point is really the guy playing in front of him. We are not talking about these kids replacing Manigold and Faneca. Fact of the matter is that Satele and Carlise’s play on the field is undisputedly terrible. Get the 2nd string guy in there! It will be no worse than what is on disply now.
Or do you really think should be out there?
Carlisle?
August 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
I don’t trust people because they are suppose to know more due to their position. That’s why we have a Sh!t Govt, and economic problems.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Look,
We’ve watched DHB, Mitchell, DMAC, Michael Huff, Gallery, JaDavis and others struggle mightily in their 1st years in the league.
Mario Henderson has struggled, as has Thomas Howard, and others…
I will keep saying this…rookies in general struggle. You guys think Campbell and Veldheer are solutions…go ahead and believe that….
If they beat out Carlisle, Satele etc…then we are in big trouble.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
pulling for him is not a problem.
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Exactly Len!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Thec,
I respect people’s opinions when they have any! Why should he play C over RT, and please don’t say because Cable wants him to?
August 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Speaking of the C and line calls, Has Satelle demonstrated that He’s dialed in?
Mabey Veldheer is getting run at center because Cable believes he can get Him with the 1st unit quicker at the c position.
If I were to bet, as soon as Veldheer demonstrates he can make the basic line calls consitently, Satelle will head to the bench.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
We are allredy in big trouble with the oline with the garbage we currently have…
August 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
RaiderLen Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Speaking of the C and line calls, Has Satelle demonstrated that He’s dialed in?
Mabey Veldheer is getting run at center because Cable believes he can get Him with the 1st unit quicker at the c position.
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The kid is that good need to find a place for him….
August 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Who said the rookies wouldn’t struggle?
Houston and McClain are going to struggle, but they are also going to learn from their mistakes and get better. Couple that with the PUSH they provide, well isn’t that what we want from our Oline?
August 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
If you have a question read my past post….
August 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
20. Is Frye in danger of being cut?!
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Lets see, can’t grip let alone THROW a football…hmmm, kind of a requsit you know as a Qb…in FOOTBALL!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
282. He’s green but I hope he can replace Satele sooner rather than later. Hope Satele’s gone by the start of the regs…
August 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Why should he play C over RT,
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LOL!
We’ve been going over that for how long now?
Let’s just say that the coaches have him at the position and he looks the best so far. Morris is probably the worst OL on the team, and Satele is uninspiring.
If you have someone else in mind for C, I’d love to hear it.
Meanwhile, RT options are Pears and Barnes.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Why should he play C over RT,
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LOL!
We’ve been going over that for how long now?
Let’s just say that the coaches have him at the position and he looks the best so far. Morris is probably the worst OL on the team, and Satele is uninspiring.
If you have someone else in mind for C, I’d love to hear it.
Meanwhile, RT options are Pears and Barnes.
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Wiggs, thats why I dont answer every post on this blog…
August 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
The kid is that good need to find a place for him….
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Since the summer they’ve been talking about getting the best 5 guys on the field. Once Henderson showed a pulse at LT, C becase an obvious look.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Who said the rookies wouldn’t struggle?
Houston and McClain are going to struggle, but they are also going to learn from their mistakes and get better. Couple that with the PUSH they provide, well isn’t that what we want from our Oline?
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At this stage of the Teams developement, I’ll take an Improving Veldheer and Campbell over a washed up Carlisle and mediocre Satelle.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
RaiderLen Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Who said the rookies wouldn’t struggle?
Houston and McClain are going to struggle, but they are also going to learn from their mistakes and get better. Couple that with the PUSH they provide, well isn’t that what we want from our Oline?
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At this stage of the Teams developement, I’ll take an Improving Veldheer and Campbell over a washed up Carlisle and mediocre Satelle.
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I second that…
August 15th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I am out…1 NATION…
August 15th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
McClain and Houston were starting caliber players when drafted….expected to be plugged in on day 1 as most 1st and 2nd rounders are expected to be. You are right, they will struggle at times and learn….but at the end of the day they will be difference makers.
Campbell and Veldheer are much more raw talents. Campbell didn’t dominate in college, and Veldheer is just now getting used to facing 300+lbs lineman with quickness on a daily basis.
At least McClain and Houston lit it up against the best talent…so one would think the leap for them is less……
We have seen raw azz rookies struggle MIGHTILY around here. I hope Campbell and Veldheer can be serviceable starters…I really do…but if they are more turnstyle than bulldozer in the 1st year…I ain’t yellin at them.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I am expecting a bossed-up defense that will keep the scores low and get off the field to lead this team.
We can stop the run…..defend the pass and get heat on the QB.
As long as the offense doesn’t turn over the ball, we will be competitive.
There are too many question marks at Offensive Line and Wide Receiver to expect much more from the offense.
The defense will keep this team in games and will help steal a couple. Just don’t turn the ball over.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
…but if they are more turnstyle than bulldozer in the 1st year…I ain’t yellin at them.
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From my point of view, how could they possibly be any more turnstile than Carlisle and Satelle?
In a perfect world Dalby replaces Otto, etc.
The Raiders have been living in less than a perfect world for some time now.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
SnB, #294…Yep. I’m excited about the possbilities with the D.
Lot’s to play with there.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RaiderLen Says:
The Raiders have been living in less than a perfect world for some time now.
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Exactly, so what’s the rush in getting these two lineman on the field this year.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
SnB, Because Carlisle is a bum, and Satelle is mediocre.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
RaiderLen,
All I am saying is this.
If they are ready to play at the NFL level…then they should play…start even.
But if they are not ready to play at the NFL level, they should not play….no matter how bad Satele and Carlisle are. If Satele and Carlisle are not NFL ready, then we should either play Barnes at RG or look to make a free agent acquisition or trade.
Do not ruin these rookies before they are ready.
Veldheer – Div III LT trying to become a starting NFL Center in 4 months…how many 300lb beasts has he faced
Campbell – Raw as raw can be. Should have stayed in college…did not dominate in the ACC….is he ready?
Let’s bring them along and DEVELOP THEM. Not throw them to the wolves because of poor peronnell decisions of the past
August 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
For example, DHB should not have been starting last year. they should have eased him into the game, maybe put together some packages for him…3rd down receiver etc..
Threw him out there and he was a liability that lost a couple of games.
Take time with these rooks
August 15th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
SnB, the coaches know what they have in Carlisle and Satelle. That for them provides a certain level of comfort.
The problem is that these guys are the weakest of the weak links.
I’d like to see the coaches run Veldheer and Campbell against the 1st unit of an opposing D to see if these guys can meet or exceed the production of the Guys in front of them.
If not, let them sit and learn.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RaiderLen,
Let’s not ruin these two kids. They have tremendous upside. Let’s develop them and bring them along.
That’s all I am saying. Satele and Carlisle….someone thought these guys could play..
This is a defense 1st team. Campbell and Veldheer are not going to be the difference between a bad offense and an elite offense
August 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
SnB
Agreed, this is Not Madden Playstation. Just because those 2 are new and shiney doesn’t mean they’re ready. Campbell in particular said he wasn’t ready.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
The good news is Veldheer and Campbell have 3 more weeks to push the other 2 out.
I like their chances.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
J,
According to Cable, the RT is Walker.
We haven’t played Vledheer at RT, so how do you oboe he can contribute more to the OL at C than RT?
Thec, you can try to answer that too, or do what you do best and let other take care of it.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
SnB
Agreed, this is Not Madden Playstation. Just because those 2 are new and shiney doesn’t mean they’re ready. Campbell in particular said he wasn’t ready.
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They are new and shiney. They aquitted themselves well last Thursday.
I’d like to see more.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
You know he can’t contribute*
J,
LMAO @ Pears & Barnes at RT, and then saying we should play the kid where he can help!
He can help at RT!!!!
Campbell can help at RG!!!!
Sign/ trade for a C!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
SnB, part of the development process is to raise the level of expectation, and intensity of competition.
Test, measure results, adjust accordingly.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RRRRRAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSSSS!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
RaiderLen,
We “threw” Robert Gallery out there and had him switching positions etc…and ruined him as a great Left Tackle.
Let these two kids learn the nuances of the craft. They did not come out of the box “Cable Ready” so they need work.
If Satele and Carlisle are unacceptable, I would expect the General Manager be on the phone trying to get a trade or free agent signing.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
This is a defense 1st team. Campbell and Veldheer are not going to be the difference between a bad offense and an elite offense
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Agree. But Carlisle and Satelle are primary contributors to the Bad.
August 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
J,
You should know 2 facts:
1- V played LT at College.
2- It’s easy to switch from LT in College to RT in NFL if you have reach & strength. Switch from LT in college to C in the NFL requires more work, learning, and development!
Those are the Facts Bro!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
J,
Don’t let the facts come in the way of a good argument. Have fun bro! lol
August 15th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
RaiderLen,
We “threw” Robert Gallery out there and had him switching positions etc…and ruined him as a great Left Tackle.
Let these two kids learn the nuances of the craft. They did not come out of the box “Cable Ready” so they need work.
If Satele and Carlisle are unacceptable, I would expect the General Manager be on the phone trying to get a trade or free agent signing
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I understand and respect your point of view. I’d take a different approach however.
If Carlisle and Satelle were not so lousy, I’d prefer a more gradual process.
I don’t see the Raiders bringing anyone in, unless injury forces their hand.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
J,
Don’t let the facts come in the way of a good argument. Have fun bro! lol
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Yo Raider O,
Veldheer could be an exception. Small school, lower level of competition, and then kicked ass in the all star games.
He adjusted rather nicely.
Cable has stated that Veldheer is a good athelete.
He’s probably pretty smart as well.
Smart and athletic. Good foundation to build on.
He can dooooo it!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
whats up guys?
Watching the replay of the dallas game on NFL network right now. D-Line looks to be much improved. The nickel package has Wimbley and Scott with their hands on the ground and Mcclain and I think howard at LB
Should be interesting to see how much stays the same in Chicago
August 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Len,
Then he should be our RT for the next 10 years. Super Mario is solid at LT for now, and he is still improving.
Campbell can be our future RG, And Gallery is our LG.
All we need is to add a C!
I don’t like what the Fat Mnkey is doing! I like to keep it simple!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Walker sucks at RT. I’m watching the replay on NFLN.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I hope the Raiders have Nnamdi shadow the opposing best receiver this year.
Have him staying on the right side….that time tested method!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Walker sucks at RT!! He can’t keep up with any speed. He needs to play G. Cooper Sucjs too!!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
McClain looks huge!!!! Did he add weight?
August 15th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
arizona qb john skelton looked good!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Our DL looks great!!
Our entire defense looks good!
Top 12 defense.
August 15th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Mr. Bush looks good too!!
Our weakness is our OL & FB iMHO. Thank you Fat Monkey aka OL Gurur!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Did Heyward-Bey even play in this game outside the 1st drive.
Someone have Murphy and DHB change salaries.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Walker is killing us at RT!!! He should be moved to RG!
Start Veldheer at RT, and let Walke/ Campbell/ Barnes compete at RG!!
Cooper should be cut unless he can play C!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Offense looked like shhhhhhhh
August 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Lots of work to do.
Run the ball and play good defense.
Don’t force the pass…we have not the Lineman or Receivers.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Jerry,
Ask Cable about Veldheer playing RT please. Maybe he didn’t think about it!
Damn you Fat Monkey!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Matt Show-Nasty looks great!!!!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
McClain, Branch, and Mitchell can hit!!!
I love this defense!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
we have a defense worthy of a nickname!!!!!!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
We should cut :
Eugene
Cooper
Barnes
Routt
Morris
Norris (4th RD pick from last year)
Cut them now!
August 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
“the Assassins” in honor of jack tatum
August 15th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
fat kidd Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
we have a defense worthy of a nickname!!!!!!
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The Infernal Machine…a lil too high brow maybe?
August 15th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Raider O Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
We should cut :
Eugene
Cooper
Barnes
Routt
Morris
Norris (4th RD pick from last year)
Cut them now!
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Dude, thats a pretty good list. But you left off Sam Williams, Samson Satele and Jeremy Ware.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Nnamdi,
I like Ware. lol
August 15th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
do you keep swayze waters just to find out why his parents named him that?
August 15th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Ware looks slow…
August 15th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Our 53 man roster:
-DE: Matt Show-Nasty, Houston, Jay Richardson, ?
-DT: Seymour, TK/ Henderson, and Bryant.
-OLB: Scott, Wimbley, Groves, TH, and Condo
-ILB: McClain, Brown, and Goethel.
-CB: Nnamdi, CJ, McFadden, Ware, ?
-S: Branch, Huff, Mitchell, Boyd/ Brown.
August 15th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
jeremy ware we keep cause when he comes underneath for a interception we can call him underware
August 15th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
After watching the game a 2nd time I like Yamon Figurs we need to take a good look at him, since he plays ST they can even cut Watkins in favor of Figurs for all I care.
Nick Miller didnt get his left foot down on the TD but nice catch and throw from KB.
I haven’t seen anybody mention L Murphy’s alligator arms on that pass over the middle. If that was DHB he would be getting blasted for that!
Did D Bryant play? Shaunessy and Houston are going to be players.
Cable is still stupid…
August 15th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
dez bryant out for at least first two games high ankle sprain.
August 15th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Offense:
-QB: Campbell, GarbageKowski, Colt
-RB: Mr. Bush, DMC, ?
-FB: Reece,?
-WR: Chaz, Murphy, DHB, JLH, Ford, Miller.
-TE: Miller, Myers, ?
-OT: Mario, Veldheer, Pears, Barnes
-OG: Gallery, Walker, Campbell, Loper/Alex Parsons
-C: Satele
August 15th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Watching replay on NFLN. These Cowboy’s announcers are garbage. They only know the QB and the HC for Oakland. Everything else is Cowboy this Cowboy that ..yadayadayada.
And we were too hard on DHB. That broken up pass didn’t look like you can completely blame him for it. He was open, the pass came, which could have been a little late, and the defender recovered to make a good play on the ball.
What was more clear was that was the ONLY time his number was called all 3 series. You can tell because of where Campbell was looking. Still DHB was getting open even as he wasn’t the primary WR.
We have to withhold judgement on this kid. He definitely has gotten bigger. Dude’s Fitzgerald size now. On one route (when Campbell missed ZM on the 4th down conversion – he and ZM both ran slants) DHB muscled his man to the outside and came back in – open. Got all into his chest – phyical.
We all know he works hard and has a good head. Lets hope he breaks out this year. (Yet, he probably has but we didn’t get to see it).
August 15th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
i want too watch the jacoby ford show!!!!playing soon i hope.
August 15th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
new post
August 16th, 2010 at 9:34 am
I have lost all confidence in McFadden. I don’t think he is committed to being a good NFL player. Follow him on Twitter and you see going out to clubs, playing with his iPhone and other things are more important. He never talks about how hard he is working to improve as a player. I think the has the JaMarcus Russell mentality, he likes the money being an NFL player gives him, but he isn’t willing to WORK hard to be good.