Raiders can’t get air attack off ground
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, August 15th, 2010 at 7:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Another day, another practice session that doesn’t remind anyone of the glory days of Sid Gillman. At this point, the Kerry Collins of 2004-05 is starting to look good.
If you’ve been reading my Twitter page, it’s clear the Raiders’ passing game has left a lot to be desired more days than not.
Too may incompletions that stray too far from the target. Too many dropped passes. Too many routes cut short with receivers looking back with a surprised look on their face.
First, an admission. Many of the routine pass plays which wind up as completions don’t make it to Twitter, so in the end it’s not as bad as it sounds. One reason is I can’t type that fast on a phone keyboard.
The other is that in training camp, especially during shorts and shells and seven-on-seven drills, the incompletions and interceptions are the story, because good teams light it up in those situations.
The Raiders are not lighting it up. The last few days, in fact, they seem to have regressed a bit. They’re certainly not any better to my untrained eye than they were a week and a half ago.
Quarterback Jason Campbell continues to throw some very nice passes as well as some others which he doesn’t seem to have timed up with his wide receivers. It’s a similar story for Kyle Boller, although Boller can’t throw on the run as well as Campbell.
Bruce Gradkowski is just getting back on the field with a groin strain and Colt Brennan is currently hoping for a few scraps.
Zach Miller remains the most reliable receiver. No surprise there. Louis Murphy makes the most impressive physical plays, but also misses a few chances at sensational chances _ missing them by a fraction _ and dropping some easy ones.
Darrius Heyward-Bey isn’t dropping passes at the rate he did last year, but disappears for stretches at a time.
Todd Watkins had one terrific catch from Boller deep Sunday, turning outside, then inside to snatch a ball out of the air.
Nick Miller is doing what he did last year, Yamon Figurs made some plays against Dallas but struggled on Sunday.
Chaz Schlilens is getting back into the mix, made a few catches Sunday, and continues to be the one receiver who makes it look smooth and easy when he is healthy and feeling good. Which hasn’t been nearly often enough.
Asked if the pass offense is where he thought it would be at this point or if there are too many balls hitting the ground, Cable said, “I still feel that there are too many on the ground. We fight that constantly. We’re certainly improved in that area, but we’ve got to keep cleaning it up and cleaning it up, there’s days where you feel you’re making improvement on that and there’s days you feel like, OK, we still have a lot of work to do.’’
Defensive backs have talked about the challenges of defending the schemes put in by offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, but of late those routes and concepts have done little to make for a more productive offense.
True, they’re better than they were a year ago. But considering what was going on a year ago with the guy wearing No. 2, they’d just about have to be.
Either the Raiders start making some serious progress in a short period of time, or expect this year’s M.O. to be a team that relies on running the ball, playing defense and throwing sparingly until they join a league where most teams live by the pass.
More news, notes and quotes:
– It was family day for players and coaches at the Napa Marriott, with children, girlfriends and significant others on hand for practice. As a result, minimal interviews following practice.
Nice touch by the Raiders this year _ bringing out tables with umbrellas and chairs to the area in front of the field house with a temporary cabana with barbecued food, lemonade and iced tea.
Many players were playing with their kids even as Cable was going through his post-practice briefing.
– Great move by Murphy on a third-and-10 sideline grab, catching the ball at the stake and leaving Stanford Routt on the ground with a spin move to get the first down.
– Jacoby Ford was on the field for the first time since Aug. 7 but was being eased in. He fielded a few punts, ran a few routes. Cable said he hopes Ford will play against Chicago Saturday. Same for Schilens.
– The three players Cable ruled as “questionable’’ for Chicago were LB Sam Williams (concussion), WR Paul Hubbard (hamstring) and QB Charlie Frye (hand). He said Darren McFadden “possibly’’ could be questionable to face the Bears, but that McFadden was improving.
Considering DE Jay Richardson (knee) will see a specialist Monday, according to Cable, you can probably add him to that list. Frye will see a specialist Tuesday.
– Since it appears Mario Henderson is entrenched at left tackle, and Jared Veldheer is playing left tackle and center, two questions come to mind: 1) Is it getting to be time to have Veldheer play one position if you’re thinking about letting him compete for a starting job; and 2) Could he eventually play right tackle?
Here’s how Cable answered:
“I think if he fit there, if he keeps developing where he becomes one of your top five players and you’ve got to find your spot for him,’’ Cable said. “The real bottom line to your question is he’s got to continue to grow. It (the Dallas game) was not bad, but there’s a lot more that’s needed in order to get it into that sort of mind fame.’’
Translation _ he’s not ready.
— One way the passing game has come along, which could pay dividends down the road _ linemen have an idea of Campbell’s depth in the pocket, which should help protection.
“Not to talk bad about JaMarcus or anything like that, but there is more definition with Jason,’’ Henderson said. “If he says he’s dropping back three steps, it’s going to be three. If he says it’s seven, it’s going to be seven. (Campbell) is good at what he does as far as footwork.’’
– The Raiders will have a padded practice Monday morning. Cable said he was impressed with the physicality against Dallas, and the better the Raiders play in terms of tackling and hitting in the preseason, the less inclined they’ll be to hit in training camp.
“My thought on pads or no pads has been, A), our health, and B), just the quality of work we’re getting, whether we’re in ‘em or out of ‘em, and this team has shown maturity in that they can go out and get work done and not have to be in pads to do it all the time,’’ Cable said.
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August 15th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I’ll be more concerned if they start out the season with the missed routes, etc. Right now, they’re still learning a new offense with a new QB. Give them some time.
August 15th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Chaz Schlilens is getting back into the mix, made a few catches Sunday, and continues to be the one receiver who makes it look smooth and easy
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I think this statement speaks volumes!
We really only have one legitimate WR option. Not surprising our passing game struggles.
August 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
These WRs are 2 to 3 years away from being good, and thats only if Chaz can stay healthy.
Love the fact that Al made some smart moves on the defensive side of the ball this offseason, but his stubbornness towards the WRs will be the Raiders undoing.
Why didn’t Al sign TO?!
August 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I agree Al made more then his share of mistakes.
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He’s the worst owner in sports today.
August 15th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I’ll be more concerned if they start out the season with the missed routes, etc. Right now, they’re still learning a new offense with a new QB.
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Whose fault is that?
August 15th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
This pass game best get better. Pretty disapointed in the drops. they need to work OT with the WR and QB for timing
August 15th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
If Schilens can stay healthy, he and Murphy need to be the two primary receivers. Stop forcing DHB to be the MAN on offense when he clearly isn’t ready.
Higgins and Nick Miller can be the slot receivers as we see what J Ford can do. Along with Mcfadden, Bush, and Miller that can be a solid offense.
The question in my opinion, isn’t as much our receivers right now, as it is whether or not Campbell will have time to throw it to them, with the pitiful right side of our offensive line, starting with Satele at Center.
You retool that line and we have a shot on offense.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Timing? I thought we were the Raiders? I thought we didn’t use timing routes? Our receivers outrun the coverage and we dominate, right?
August 15th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
with the WR struggles, I won’t be surprised to see DMac out in the slot more often than not…
I could see Schliens and Murphy on the outside with DMac in the slot.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I know this has been said over and over, but if Al and Cable simply got together and made three simple moves, we could salvage this season.
1)Get Mawae. He is a definite upgrade over Satele and can be gotten for cheap.
2)Move Walker inside to RG. He can still complement a power blocking scheme, but playing him on the outside is not the best fit for him. He has poor footwork and therefore has trouble with speed rushers on the outside.
3)Package a trade for Gaither from the Ravens.
* A fourth possible option, is to leave Walker on the outside at RT and play B Campbell at RG.
But Satele, Carlisle and Walker in a row across the line has and will continue to be a disaster week after week.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I figured the Pasing game was going to take some time.
I have some thoughts and opinions, on the AFC west, after watching the Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos over the last four days.
The biggest difference is and shouldn’t surprise anyone is the QB position. Phillip Rivers is a head above all the other QB’S in our division.
Having been in Norv Turner’s system, he looks real confident and smooth. I know some of you who have commented in here, dislike his cocky attitude, or his behavior on the field, there is no doubt he is the reason they have the best shot to win close games or high scoring games.
His accuracy is very good, throws the long ball real well, and has complete command of that offense.
Rivers alone, is worth 4-7 wins based on his experience and knowledge of any defensive scheme.
After watching Campbell, Cassell and Orton. Orton would have the edge, as he is in the second year in McDaniel system. Looks like Cassell and Campbell are getting familiar to their new offensive systems.
The Raiders can, depending on how they play, can beat all of the teams, especially Chiefs, Broncos. That would definetly help achieve, a better season record than previous years.
San Diego, is going to be tough to beat, not impossible. Just need a good pass rush, and great DB coverage, can go a long ways for a possible win in either game.
Best looking rookies, lamarr Houston for the Raiders, Ryan Matthews for the Chargers, and McCluster for the Chiefs.
My last comment is our defense versus the rest of the AFC west. They all have their flaws, some are worse than others. I would after one preseason game rate the Raiders the best, with the Chargers next and Chiefs, and Denver have some big time personnel issues, in key positions.
Next week is another test, keep the progress rolling, and keep on improving and try to seperate from the other teams is a way to become dominant again.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
If Chaz plays I bet he re-injures his prissy little feet. Hold him out! Lets get a better look @ Figurs & Ford.
– Jacoby Ford was on the field for the first time since Aug. 7 but was being eased in. He fielded a few punts, ran a few routes. Cable said he hopes Ford will play against Chicago Saturday. Same for Schilens.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
The only solace I see in the situation right now is that, this is what we have the preseason for…to work out all the kinks. We have a month to get this team together and ready to play each Sunday.
That means a month for Veldheer to step up and show that he can be a starter at either center or right tackle.
A month for Bruce Campbell to show that he can be a starter at RG.
A month for Schilens and Mcfadden to get healthy, and J Campbell to get his timing down with Schilens and Murphy.
This is why we have preseason. It’s only been one game. Let’s give it a couple of more weeks.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I cant stand the thought of another year of sh!tty offense!!!! The WR’s need to step up but the achilles heel is Cables FK’n O-line!
August 15th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
As I said after the game on Thursday the offense is still learning and campbell is still getting used to how our receivers run their routes!! that is why it is called training camp!
August 15th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Man I watched JC every game he played, the guys is a great guy but if you expect him to be a real passing threat it just won’t happen. He can make short passes and screens but if you want him to throw down field you will be disappointed. The worst thing the Raiders did is name him starter without any competition. JC was handed this position on a silver platter make him earn it. When Grad gets healthy or any of our QBs let them fight it out it might be Jason wins, but make him prove it.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I will start to get worried if the offensive production stays the same all pre-season long, but until then I think we should relax and take a breath unless of course you are “madden” because it will never be enough for that tool!
August 15th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Did McClain return ?
August 15th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
elboocho Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I will start to get worried if the offensive production stays the same all pre-season long,
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No you won’t. You’ll put your rose colored glasses on then, too.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Buster
I think it’s very rare for an open QB competition.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I bet the players with the highest wages play start on every team.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
*I bet the players with the highest wages start on every team.
August 15th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Kool Your right on both post.. But JC needs something to put a fire under him..
August 15th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
*I bet the players with the highest wages start on every team.
Ya I wonder how the Browns feel about that investment, LOL
August 15th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
JC seems like a high character guy.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
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August 15th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Did McClain return ?
………….Which mcclain are you talking about ?Le’Ron McClain ,Rolando McClain
August 15th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Al is gonna make a move soon …I can smell it!
August 15th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Report: Deion Sanders sued for fraud
Posted by Mike Florio on August 15, 2010 9:19 PM ET
Former NFL cornerback Deion Sanders, presumably a first-ballot Hall of Famer, has leveraged his “Prime Time” nickname into a cottage industry.
But one specific branch of the “Prime Time” tree has gotten Sanders sued.
According to CourthouseNews.com, a lawsuit has been filed in Texas against Sanders and others alleging false and deceptive business practices, fraud and negligence. The plaintiffs, investors in a venture called PrimeTimePlayer Pages, claim that Sanders and others raised money to publish a newsletter that would be sent to more than 500 colleges, touting featured student-athletes.
The only problem? Per the complaint, not a single school received the publication. A basketball edition of the publication allegedly was never even created.
For now, these are only allegations, based apparently on the specific contentions contained in the complaint. Sanders and the other defendants will have a right to respond to the claims in court.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Pito
August 15th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
RaiderRich510 Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Al is gonna make a move soon …I can smell it!
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Yep!
I’m thinkin just before, or after pre-season game 3.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Kool JC does have great character, That’s is best trait.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
RaiderRich510 Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Al is gonna make a move soon …I can smell it………………………………………………could you have passed gas and are smelling that?
August 15th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
The Pesticide Information and Training Office (PITO)
August 15th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
J,
I like your depth chart, and it gave me a few ideas to improve my depth chart:
QB: JC, GarbageKowski, sign a guy to develop
HB: Bush, DMC, Bennett
FB: Reece, and 1st FB the Jets Cut (I hope they cut the Connor)
TE: Miller, Myers, Owens
RT: Veldheer, Barnes
RG: Walker/ Cooper, Campbell, Cooper
C: Satele
LG: Gallery, Campbell
LT: Mario, Pears
WR: Chaz, DHB, Murphy, JLH, Ford, Miller
LE: Houston, Jay
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK/ Henderson
RE: Matt S, we need another pass rushing DE
SLB: Wimbley, TH
ILB: McClain, Brown, Goethel
WLB: Scott, Groves CB: Nnamdi, Ware
CB: CJ, Mcfadden
SS:Branch, Mitchell
FS: Huff, Mitchell, Brown/Boyd
K: Jano
P: Lechler
LS: Condo
August 15th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Correction
DBs:
CB: Nnamdi, Mcfadden
CB: CJ, Huff, Ware
SS: Branch, Mitchell,
FS: Huff, Mitchell, Brown/ Boyd
August 15th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
QB: JC, GarbageKowski, colt
HB: Bush, Bennett 1st running back redskins cut
FB: Reece, tonga
TE: Miller, Myers, Owens
RT: Veldheer, Barnes
RG: Walker/ Cooper, Campbell, Cooper
c k. mawae
LG: Gallery, Campbell
LT: Mario, Pears
WR: Chaz, DHB, Murphy, JLH, Ford, Miller
LE: Houston, Jay
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK/ Henderson
RE: Matt S, we need another pass rushing DE
SLB: Wimbley, TH
ILB: McClain, Brown, Goethel
WLB: Scott, Groves CB: Nnamdi, Ware
CB: CJ, Mcfadden
SS:Branch, Mitchell
FS: Huff, Mitchell, Brown/Boyd
K: Jano
P: Lechler
LS: Condo
August 15th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Nnamdi allies to play a young like Mitchell at the S position behind him. QBs don’t throw to his side. If they do, they don’t throw deep..
Let Branch play on the other side with CJ/ McFadden, and let Huff play NB.
Huff should play FS the entire time, he can’t tackle, but the man can cover! Let him play NB, CB, and FS. Move him around since we can’t move Nnamdi.
Play Veldheer at RT!!
Play Walker at RG!!
Sign a FB from the Jets!
Trade for a C, or sign Mawae!!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Huff should not*
August 15th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Atleast Huff played CB at Texas. Veldheer never played C!!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
I’ve watched thid game over and over and I’m convinced there is a witch hunt going on for Satele. He had a mental lapse on one play and people have teken it and ran with it. If you look at the rest of his play in that game it is very acceptable. Everybody seems to want a C even willing to get 70 yearold Mawae and bech Satele. All I can say is that I’m glad you can’t make that decision. On that same play Cooper Carlisle was trucked but no mention of that. Even still we only gave up ONE sack. And we ran the ball very decently. So I’m wondeing why all the consternation.
Second CJ is a very good cover corner when his playing with confidence. That is most of the time. But it will prove to be very difficult to find another corner much better. They’re not walking the streets waiting on the Raiders to call them.
Everyone keeps saying trade for this guy trade for that guy, to do that the other team has to be interested. And we don’t want to overpay to get a guy who’s marginally better than the one we have.
Remember YOU have your opinion but it may not agree with what the coaches see. So a lot of us make strong statements that are largely unfounded. We jujst want what WE want wether it’s right or wrong. Now if your job depended on that decision you probabaly wouldn’t be so hasty and wimsical.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Huff has size (6′1), speed (ran a sub 4.4), and he can cover. Use him like Sir Charles. CB,NB, and FS.
We need Mitchell, Branch, Nnamdi, Huff, Mcclain, Scott, Seymour, Houston, and Show-Nasty on the field the entire time!! They can make plays!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
BHP,
I’m glad we disagree. lol
You see that Thec, I disagree with BHP.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Priest,
We are not basing our opinion of Delilah Satele on that one play. The bottom line is that he cannot handle the big NT’s. He gets pushed back at the line of scrimmage far too often.
And the “witch hunt is not just for Satele. If you read the posts from those of us calling for Satele’s demotion are calling for a change at the RG position as well. That is Cooper Carlisle’s position.
Satele and Carlisle are not gonna cut it for us. Walker is being misplaced as well at RT. He should be moved inside to RG. That’s where he was the most effective last season. He has poor footwork and has trouble with the speedy DE’s and get’s beat alot around the corner.
You are right we all have our opinion, but if you are going to reference our opinion, please state it correctly.
August 15th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I enjoy being an Arm Chair GM. It starts with the draft! That’s my fav part as an Arm Chair GM.
This draft was great. It could be better, if Veldheer plays RT!
August 15th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
ArmChair I read that same that same stuff about Jake Grove for years. Well he’s down there in Miami handling the big NT’s game in game out. The Fish have one of the best running games in the league with him at C. Now you’re telling me the same thing about this guy. And i just saw him handle the NT for the Cowboy’s. So you’re saying I shouldn’t believe the film believe you?
August 15th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Walker didn’t play RG last year he played LG and no I think Walker can play RT. In fact I trust him at RT more than anyone we have at this particular point.
Now IMO Veldheer is just the flavor of the month he’s the unknown so everybody likes him. That’s the way it is in here everybody wants the new guy. Even if they don’t know if he can play. He’s just new!!
August 15th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Grove has to compete for that position, and I watched him play with the 2nd unit.
August 15th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Priest,
Satele and Carlisle got blown off the line of scrimmage on that sack. That’s the film that I saw. Walker got beat around the edge.
Cable knows that the O line is suspect. He himself said that if Williams or Okung had been available, we would not have picked McClain at number 8.
And if Jake Grove had been handling his business he wouldn’t have been traded, so yes you did hear the same thing about Grove, and that’s why he’s gone.
You cannot sit here in good faith and say that Satele’s performance has been up to par. First his injury was blamed. Now that he’s healthy, what’s his excuse now?
August 15th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Satele played well (xcept for that one play) so I don’t neeed an excuse just keep playing like he did vs Dallas and he’ll be the starting C for the Oakland Raiders and you’ll be here blogging as usual.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Incidently Okung and Williams ae both LT’s not C’s.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Grove wasn’t traded,he left as a free agent.
People complaining about play calling and players like DHB not doing enough in the first practice game-he can’t call his own number-makes me wonder if some on here really understand what the pre-season is all about.This is when marginal players are given the chance to show whether or not they are NFL players.DHB will make the team.They don’t need to throw him the ball 10 times a practice game and they aren’t going to show the whole Off. in the 1st practice game.Some say ‘we’ need to know what he can do.I hate to tell you but no ‘we’ don’t-the coaches know.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Priest,
I’m gonna explain this one more time for you.
You wrongly asserted that we are maligning Satele but giving Carlisle a free pass. Satele is not the only problem with the O-Line.
60% of the O-line is not up to par as constructed. That’s Satele, Carlisle and Walker.
Whether or not Okung and Williams played on the left side is inconsequential because Mario Henderson could have played the other side. Then Walker and Gallery could have handled the 2 guard spots.
That’s why Cable was interested in drafting one of those two young Tackle prospects.
Until you get it in your head that nobody is scapegoating Satele, then you will continue to miss the point. Satele is a part of the problem on the O line, but he is only one third of the problem.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:30 am
RRRRAAAAIIIIIDDDDDDEEERRRRS!!!
Anyone panicking over the lst preseason game needs to check themselves over to the 49er side right now.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Incidentally,if every lineman that got beat once in a while was replaced there wouldn’t be any lineman playing.Even all-pros get beat now and then.We only gave up 1 sack to one of the best pass rushing teams in the league.Would I like to see better players at those positions-sure,but they aren’t as bad as many say.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Lefty they gave up only one sack but the starters for Dallas played how many series? 2 maybe 3?
So we gave up 1 sack in about a quarter actually.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:54 am
You seem to think we have a huge problem on the line.I think it would be safe to say the coaches don’t see it your way.Cable has praised C.C. many times saying he really likes our guards.He has also said Walker is a big upgrade at RT.As far as the C position,I agree he isn’t thrilled with Satele,but as of now he is the best option.Things could change as camp goes forward.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:56 am
I could be wrong,but I believe their starters were brought back in after the 1st few series on certain downs,at least that is what their announcers said.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:09 am
lefty12 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:54 am
You seem to think we have a huge problem on the line.I think it would be safe to say the coaches don’t see it your way.Cable has praised C.C. many times saying he really likes our guards.He has also said Walker is a big upgrade at RT.
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Lefty until the coaches put together a winning season, their view of the team’s progress deserves to be looked at skeptically, when the product that we’ve been seeing on the field the past few years has told us a completely different story.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:22 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I agree Al made more then his share of mistakes.
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He’s the worst owner in sports today.
………………………….this talk is treason!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:27 am
In the last year and a half this team has changed drastically.The roster has been turned over and the whole coaching staff revamped.I put more faith in the coaches than a bunch of fans on a blog who have no idea what is going on at practices on a daily basis and never get to see the films the coaches see.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:41 am
Priest says:
There’s a “witchhunt” out to get Satele?!
Come on Priest!
Miami got rid of Satele because he couldn’t handle the big DT’s and guess what, he still can’t handle them.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:43 am
I think we all understand that part of our offensive line is nothing more than re-constituted scrap heap — and it shows, unfortunately. We’re going to have to use Veldheer and Bruce the Beast as building blocks. As far as the passing game, I wish JC had thrown a few more balls in DHB’s direction vs. Dallas. If they are ever going to get their timing down, it’ll have to be through repetition. Figurs made a couple of plays, but he won’t make the squad. Work Schilens until he goes down again. Give Frye some good work in Preseason game #3, then trade him (if possible).
August 16th, 2010 at 2:48 am
Oh, and Lefty 12, get over yourself, man. The blog is designed for fans, not coaches. This is our chance to have our say and voice our opinion. We see what we see, and we share it. I may not watch game film every day, but I have thoroughly scoured the game film of the ONE game we have played so far (as have others). I saw some good, some bad and some ugly — there are things that obviously need to be fixed.
August 16th, 2010 at 3:08 am
Good post #64 Raidertbone.
The Good: The defensive line and the linebackers. Nnamdi Asomugha. Nick Miller. Michael Bennett. Robert Gallery and Mario Henderson.
The Bad: Chris Johnson, Langston Walker, Mike Mitchell, DHB, Watkins.
The Ugly: Satele, Carlisle, Bodiford, Morris, Eugene
August 16th, 2010 at 3:46 am
Although he’s had the LEAST playing time/reps in this offense… it seems that maybe they should see if Colt Brennen does anything…
If i remember correctly, he at least is accurate and apparently has gotten pretty good timing, despite him being a Raider for less than 2 weeks.
Give the kid a shot… at this point it couldn’t hurt.
August 16th, 2010 at 4:26 am
I don’t know about Colt Brennan. It could be that perhaps we see some flaws in the whole Redskins’ mentality of assessing talent and we’re trying to capitalize on that. On the other hand, we would probably not expect him to ever be any more than a backup, and Boller actually looked pretty decent on Saturday. At this point, I don’t see Brennan staying on if the other guys are healthy; and I think Frye is the one who is on the “bubble” for the third quarterback spot.
August 16th, 2010 at 4:28 am
Of what I saw on film, I think Langston stunk up the joint on the O-line ten times worse than anyone else … even “Belinda” Carlisle!
August 16th, 2010 at 4:33 am
If you watched closely what the Bengals did in their first preseason game, they came right out and threw the ball to T.O., to get him in the mix. He had a couple of catches, everyone felt good, then they pulled him. If we are ever going to build the confidence of DHB and continue to develop him as a talent, the same thing needs to happen. Come out against Chicago, get him about 2-3 touches on the initial drive or two, then pull him. I am no coach, but I have seen what they’ve done with DHB so far, and I do NOT agree with their working philosophy in regard to the receiving game.
August 16th, 2010 at 4:35 am
# J Wiggle Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Chaz Schlilens is getting back into the mix, made a few catches Sunday, and continues to be the one receiver who makes it look smooth and easy
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I think this statement speaks volumes!
We really only have one legitimate WR option. Not surprising our passing game struggles.
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Another major league false statement…..Chaz is our best WR but dont tell me Murphy or JLH are legitimate WRs………please stop J
August 16th, 2010 at 4:36 am
# Raider75 Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
These WRs are 2 to 3 years away from being good, and thats only if Chaz can stay healthy.
Love the fact that Al made some smart moves on the defensive side of the ball this offseason, but his stubbornness towards the WRs will be the Raiders undoing.
Why didn’t Al sign TO?!
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Because T.O. fukin sucks and is 37 years old
August 16th, 2010 at 4:38 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I agree Al made more then his share of mistakes.
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He’s the worst owner in sports today.
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Sorry idiot…..maybe you need to take this statement back…..seen the Pirates, Royals,Bills,TWolves,Clippers………wow you get the point so shut up you dumbass
August 16th, 2010 at 4:39 am
# itzSteve Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
with the WR struggles, I won’t be surprised to see DMac out in the slot more often than not…
I could see Schliens and Murphy on the outside with DMac in the slot.
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Thank god this idiot here isnt the coach….you make Cable look like George Halas and Vince Lombardi put together…….slot WR is JLH….DMAC in the slot more times than not hahahahahahahaha, go David Carradine yourself
August 16th, 2010 at 4:40 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I figured the Pasing game was going to take some time.
I have some thoughts and opinions, on the AFC west, after watching the Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers and Broncos over the last four days.
The biggest difference is and shouldn’t surprise anyone is the QB position. Phillip Rivers is a head above all the other QB’S in our division.
Having been in Norv Turner’s system, he looks real confident and smooth. I know some of you who have commented in here, dislike his cocky attitude, or his behavior on the field, there is no doubt he is the reason they have the best shot to win close games or high scoring games.
His accuracy is very good, throws the long ball real well, and has complete command of that offense.
Rivers alone, is worth 4-7 wins based on his experience and knowledge of any defensive scheme.
After watching Campbell, Cassell and Orton. Orton would have the edge, as he is in the second year in McDaniel system. Looks like Cassell and Campbell are getting familiar to their new offensive systems.
The Raiders can, depending on how they play, can beat all of the teams, especially Chiefs, Broncos. That would definetly help achieve, a better season record than previous years.
San Diego, is going to be tough to beat, not impossible. Just need a good pass rush, and great DB coverage, can go a long ways for a possible win in either game.
Best looking rookies, lamarr Houston for the Raiders, Ryan Matthews for the Chargers, and McCluster for the Chiefs.
My last comment is our defense versus the rest of the AFC west. They all have their flaws, some are worse than others. I would after one preseason game rate the Raiders the best, with the Chargers next and Chiefs, and Denver have some big time personnel issues, in key positions.
Next week is another test, keep the progress rolling, and keep on improving and try to seperate from the other teams is a way to become dominant again.
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Typical Dell……making sense…..why dont yall take notes?
August 16th, 2010 at 4:43 am
# Buster Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Man I watched JC every game he played, the guys is a great guy but if you expect him to be a real passing threat it just won’t happen. He can make short passes and screens but if you want him to throw down field you will be disappointed. The worst thing the Raiders did is name him starter without any competition. JC was handed this position on a silver platter make him earn it. When Grad gets healthy or any of our QBs let them fight it out it might be Jason wins, but make him prove it.
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YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN…..Grads can only come in for short term. No way he can be a legit starter in NFL. If teams have to plan for Grads it would be very ugly
You seen every game? You mean you seen when JC’s offense changes and everyone is injured? Yep good observation
August 16th, 2010 at 4:44 am
# KoolKell Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
JC seems like a high character guy.
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You mean like your boy Jamarcus Russell? What are the guys saying now about him at the “Ye Olde Barbershop”?
August 16th, 2010 at 4:45 am
# fat kidd Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
MistaBrown Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Did McClain return ?
………….Which mcclain are you talking about ?Le’Ron McClain ,Rolando McClain
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Poor Crap Kidd…..was abused as a child….forgive him everyone
August 16th, 2010 at 4:45 am
B
Why are you up so early?
August 16th, 2010 at 4:50 am
# priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
I’ve watched thid game over and over and I’m convinced there is a witch hunt going on for Satele. He had a mental lapse on one play and people have teken it and ran with it. If you look at the rest of his play in that game it is very acceptable. Everybody seems to want a C even willing to get 70 yearold Mawae and bech Satele. All I can say is that I’m glad you can’t make that decision. On that same play Cooper Carlisle was trucked but no mention of that. Even still we only gave up ONE sack. And we ran the ball very decently. So I’m wondeing why all the consternation.
Second CJ is a very good cover corner when his playing with confidence. That is most of the time. But it will prove to be very difficult to find another corner much better. They’re not walking the streets waiting on the Raiders to call them.
Everyone keeps saying trade for this guy trade for that guy, to do that the other team has to be interested. And we don’t want to overpay to get a guy who’s marginally better than the one we have.
Remember YOU have your opinion but it may not agree with what the coaches see. So a lot of us make strong statements that are largely unfounded. We jujst want what WE want wether it’s right or wrong. Now if your job depended on that decision you probabaly wouldn’t be so hasty and wimsical.
# priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
ArmChair I read that same that same stuff about Jake Grove for years. Well he’s down there in Miami handling the big NT’s game in game out. The Fish have one of the best running games in the league with him at C. Now you’re telling me the same thing about this guy. And i just saw him handle the NT for the Cowboy’s. So you’re saying I shouldn’t believe the film believe you?
# priesttj Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Satele played well (xcept for that one play) so I don’t neeed an excuse just keep playing like he did vs Dallas and he’ll be the starting C for the Oakland Raiders and you’ll be here blogging as usual.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL, my god you gotta love Priest breaking it down eh?
Ha, he is talking about Jake Grove? Come on go back to archives there was only one guy talking about Grove sucking…….guess who that was? THANK YOU…..Grove is 2nd string and is a disappointment in Miami. You talk of Miami’s running game but dont realize that team was much better with Satele there!! HAHAHAHAHAHA….put the gin and tonic down old man
August 16th, 2010 at 4:52 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 4:45 am
B
Why are you up so early?
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I generally get up early but I hardly get on here early……I just felt the need to get on here after reading the garbage posted on here
August 16th, 2010 at 4:52 am
Plus I want to hang out with the AM crew for a second
August 16th, 2010 at 4:54 am
B
I guess we are one of very few DMAC supporters on this blog. I guess I’m going down with him also. I just need to see a full year with enough rushing attempts to see if he is a legit back.
August 16th, 2010 at 4:56 am
I believe Dakota, you and I and a few others. I’m not on this blog much, but Dakota defends DMAC all the time.
This slot receiver stuff, is funny. My personal favorite is to make him a WR.
August 16th, 2010 at 5:00 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 4:54 am
B
I guess we are one of very few DMAC supporters on this blog. I guess I’m going down with him also. I just need to see a full year with enough rushing attempts to see if he is a legit back.
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Yes I’m 100 pct with you. His only fault was being Russell’s only friend on the team a.k.a. his drinknig buddy…………..DMAC needs 15 carries a game. Dell, whose word we gonna take Ken Stabler’s or some damn fool on the blog?
With a legit QB there teams will have to respect the PA fakes because say what u want, no defense wants to let that guy get past the linebackers. This talk of him primarily as 3rd down back or a slot WR does an injustice to the entire offense. DMAC wasnt drated to be a bruising back and many on this blog dont get that at all
August 16th, 2010 at 5:01 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 4:56 am
I believe Dakota, you and I and a few others. I’m not on this blog much, but Dakota defends DMAC all the time.
This slot receiver stuff, is funny. My personal favorite is to make him a WR.
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Its the most idiotic schit I’ve ever heard. The times you seen him lineup there was due to the fact we had alot of issues in the pass game
August 16th, 2010 at 5:06 am
B
I would hope Hugh Jackson, can utilize M. Bush and DMAC like Ray Rice was in Baltimore.
Ravens offense would use the I formation with a McClain lead, but also many three set of WR’S.
Whether DMAC, runs edge or between tackle, open up the offense, be creative and stick to his strengths like they did with Rice.
August 16th, 2010 at 5:15 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:06 am
B
I would hope Hugh Jackson, can utilize M. Bush and DMAC like Ray Rice was in Baltimore.
Ravens offense would use the I formation with a McClain lead, but also many three set of WR’S.
Whether DMAC, runs edge or between tackle, open up the offense, be creative and stick to his strengths like they did with Rice.
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Yep be versatile on offense….they must use DMAC in all ways and not be predictable…..also it would be nice to see us have a real lead blocker for both Bush and DMAC…..MANASE TONGA needs to be the starting fullback. He gives us the best blend of blocking,receving and rushing out of all the FBs onthe roster. We using power blocking right? Dammit get a guy in there that exemplifies that
August 16th, 2010 at 5:21 am
We need to run hard with Bush and get DMac out into open spaces with short flare passes. I still say Dmac’s a Reggie Bush-type player, not a workhorse.
August 16th, 2010 at 5:21 am
DMAC,
Let’s hope he can stay healthy. They are cautious with him currently, due to his hamstring strain.
Career stats, are what they are, but he needs to stay healthy.
25 Starts, 217 rushing attempts. That a half season for Peterson or other top backs in the league.
Of those 25 games played, I would say 7 or so he suited up, but was still injured.
18 games played out of a possible 32, plus 7 games injured and suited up, but rarely played.
That’s 18 games in two years, behind a pourous offensive line.
Stay healthy, give him 15 or more rushing attempts, and let’s see what he can do!
August 16th, 2010 at 5:25 am
# raidertbone Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:21 am
We need to run hard with Bush and get DMac out into open spaces with short flare passes. I still say Dmac’s a Reggie Bush-type player, not a workhorse.
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Actually he is a bigger R Bush but nonetheless you arent off in your post at all my friend…..its tough to be a workhorse in the league anyways. We gotta be creative with our two guys and no be predictable with them
August 16th, 2010 at 5:27 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:21 am
DMAC,
Let’s hope he can stay healthy. They are cautious with him currently, due to his hamstring strain.
Career stats, are what they are, but he needs to stay healthy.
25 Starts, 217 rushing attempts. That a half season for Peterson or other top backs in the league.
Of those 25 games played, I would say 7 or so he suited up, but was still injured.
18 games played out of a possible 32, plus 7 games injured and suited up, but rarely played.
That’s 18 games in two years, behind a pourous offensive line.
Stay healthy, give him 15 or more rushing attempts, and let’s see what he can do!
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Yes really! The line will have to play better but dammit the QB play was garbage so hopefully JC rids of some ofthat crap…..but Ima keep stressing it over and over MANASE TONGA
August 16th, 2010 at 5:28 am
Dell…………….Tommy Kelly sucks. Guy isnt a NT and Al is crazy for being stubborn on this. Henderson the only true Nose Tackle onthe team needs to be there on obvious run downs. Kelly gets zero push
August 16th, 2010 at 5:29 am
B
I’m off to breakfast meeting, thanks for the comments.
Catch you later.
August 16th, 2010 at 5:29 am
ok Dellfonic…..I’m gonna be jetting too
August 16th, 2010 at 5:31 am
But before I go……………
August 16th, 2010 at 5:31 am
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:28 am
Dell…………….Tommy Kelly sucks. Guy isnt a NT and Al is crazy for being stubborn on this. Henderson the only true Nose Tackle onthe team needs to be there on obvious run downs. Kelly gets zero push
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Saw your comment. Yes we have problems there. I can’t help but laugh, when Sapp was here and he boasted about Kelly. Next thing you know, during the off season, he is signed to that mega contract.
August 16th, 2010 at 5:36 am
Gameplan is simple fellas…………………
Offense:
Bush and DMAC 35 times or more on the ground with Tonga leading the way
JC passes no more than 25 times
Chaz 1 Murphy 2 JLH 3 with DHB coming in as the Y at times
Zach Miller more ofthe same but use him the redzone
Defense:
Kelly doesnt deserve to start….Henderson does
Rotate the front 7 and never have Des Bryant in on run downs
We are screwed on the CB oppo from Aso…..it is what it is
So anyhow ppl………the Great One must leave…..its monday and I got some stuff to do this week before I head down south next week….Monday the 23rd will be here faster than ya know……………..
JUST WIN
August 16th, 2010 at 5:38 am
# Raider Dell Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:31 am
B is still da BAUCE Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:28 am
Dell…………….Tommy Kelly sucks. Guy isnt a NT and Al is crazy for being stubborn on this. Henderson the only true Nose Tackle onthe team needs to be there on obvious run downs. Kelly gets zero push
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Saw your comment. Yes we have problems there. I can’t help but laugh, when Sapp was here and he boasted about Kelly. Next thing you know, during the off season, he is signed to that mega contract.
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It’s a joke….and mind you I was pulling for Kelly but last season was awful. I can take him as the UT if Seymour was playing DE but as the NT, that is awful we saw him suck in 2006. People like Jhill and BHP spouting this BS that he is able to handle it is embarrassing to all people who watch this game
August 16th, 2010 at 5:38 am
GONE……………..
August 16th, 2010 at 5:53 am
Good Morning Naton!!!
Looked decent Thursday night, now we’re stepping backwards? Hmmm…ok…
August 16th, 2010 at 6:28 am
“He said Darren McFadden “possibly’’ could be questionable to face the Bears, but that McFadden was improving.”
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Next stop Canton!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Good Morning Bo…I guess everyone took Monday off, huh?
August 16th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Morning Hwnrdr
August 16th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Guess so…BTW Kauai was a paradise. Did not want to leave. If you see “KauaiRdr” here someday you’ll know it’s me!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:05 am
I know this is no determination on real life skill, but Jacoby Ford is a BEAST in Madden. If you hit him in stride he cant be caught. My buddy is on record as saying Ford is “cheat code fast” lol!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Morning Bcz24…i hope Jacoby is like that game time!!!
Bo…glad you liked Kauai…I’ll look out for the name change…lol
August 16th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Bo I did Maui for my brothers wedding 4 years ago… absolutely without a doubt the best 9 days of my life. I cant wait to go back!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I was awestruck at the combo of jungle, mountains and pristine beaches. Although the 7AM kickoffs would take some getting used to!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Yeah…those 7 AM kickoffs…funny is that I had to get used to 10AM when I came to Cali 10 years ago…LOL
August 16th, 2010 at 7:20 am
I think Ford could have 5-7 long tds this year if he gets a shot, best deep threat I think.
August 16th, 2010 at 7:32 am
I agree! not only is he fast, but he can CATCH THE BALL, TOO!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 7:37 am
The passing game won’t improve until DHB is gone. And that won’t be till the end of this year.
August 16th, 2010 at 7:46 am
You know…why do I believe you Kirk? However, I hope it’s not true and DHB either has a break out year or…
August 16th, 2010 at 7:58 am
re: “the coaching staff saw something in Nick Miller last year” comments
Hue Jackson runs the offense. he wasn’t here last year, therefore didn’t advocate the 15 Week love-affair or scholarship. He’s done nothing in regular season games. hasn’t even been active for any
he didn’t enter the game last night until the 4th quarter, as a receiver or return man … was behind Watkins, Higgins, Figurs and even Bodiford
had 2 passes thrown his way. 1 was incomplete and the other one was a gift from the refs. Even Jwigg (his biggest supporter) ruled it out! his single return opportunity was a fair catch
to think he’s a lock at this point = silly
August 16th, 2010 at 7:59 am
good morning Hwnrdr, Kirk, BCZ …
August 16th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Good Morning Rockstar!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Face it, if anybody that comments here (or even Jerry himself), knew jack about football, they’d be working for a team.
Everybody knows how to do everything right up until they have to do it. Then it is all excuses and “yeah, but”s.
BAN THE TROLLS!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:04 am
-Play Veldheer at RT!!
-Play Walker @ G!!!
-Add another C, and Cut Morris!
-Move Huff Around to Allow Mitchell more playing time!
-Add a FB from the Jets after roster cuts!!
-Stop the Soft Camp & Practice!!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Thec,
BHP thinks Satele played well, and I don’t.
Like you, he likes the idea of V playing C since the coaches think he can!
You agree with him more than I do! lol
August 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
OK fellas only two things can save us this year, unitl our offense comes alive.
1) An effective running game.
2) Defense must dominate to keep us in games.
I don’t think our “O” stays healthy enough to play through games.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Move Huff around.
Nnamdi, DMC, Huff, JLH, Veldheer, and Bush are capable of doing more than we allowed them IMHO! Our Defense looked good, but our offense is still sorry!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Satele is always getting over powered at the line. Our O line always has this “M” shape at the line of scrimage from Satele getting backed down in the middle.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:13 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
OK fellas only two things can save us this year, unitl our offense comes alive.
1) An effective running game.
2) Defense must dominate to keep us in games.
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What about #3?….The Batman.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
I agree Raider O. You have to put play makers in the right positions to make plays. We use key players as a wasted resource.
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Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Move Huff around.
Nnamdi, DMC, Huff, JLH, Veldheer, and Bush are capable of doing more than we allowed them IMHO! Our Defense looked good, but our offense is still sorry!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:15 am
LMAO!!! I was thinking Superman.
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Sweep The Leg. Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:13 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
OK fellas only two things can save us this year, unitl our offense comes alive.
1) An effective running game.
2) Defense must dominate to keep us in games.
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What about #3?….The Batman.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Is it “The Batman” or just “Batman”?
August 16th, 2010 at 8:19 am
whats the deal with McClain?
did we ever find out why he’s missing? I know it’s a personal matter, but has it been clarified?
I just remember JaWalrus missing a few days because he was closing on a house or some other bogus excuse. hope ROMAC’s reason is legit. I don’t want to see something like “long line at the DMV. thanks for letting me have the day off coach”
August 16th, 2010 at 8:21 am
If we can’t block, or pass, then we can’t run!!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:24 am
STL,
LMAO
Remember that Snickers commercial. “I’m Batman!!”
August 16th, 2010 at 8:31 am
-Bush had more yards in his last full season at college than he does with the Raiders!
-Huff had more picks at Texas than he does with the Raiders!!!
-JLH had 82 REC at UTEP in ONE SEASON!!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:35 am
-DMC was Superman at college, but Now Felix Jones is Better?!?!? He was DMC’s Backup!!!
-Veldheer is 6′8 320+, can Block, we need help at RT, he played LT @ college, switching College LTs to RTs is not hard (it’s been done before), but he is playing C!!
Fire The Fat Monkey!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Does anyone have any suggestions why DHB can’t get a ball thrown his way?
Do you think he has issues seperating from the DBs? Is eh being double teamed? What is the deal?
August 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Softball Champs once again!
JUST WIN BABY!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
What is this, a monkey blog now? No more exclamation points.(!)
August 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Someone in RoMacs family is deathly ill or died. I dont have any specifics but all the Raiders I follow on Twitter were sending prayers and best wishes to Rolando and his family.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:38 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Does anyone have any suggestions why DHB can’t get a ball thrown his way?
Do you think he has issues seperating from the DBs? Is eh being double teamed? What is the deal?
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Lack of QB’s confidence in him yet?
August 16th, 2010 at 8:38 am
I can’t Blame Nnamdi’s situation on Cable, but I want to! lol
Cable is responsible for the rest!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Maybe McClain’s Crohn’s disease is real?
August 16th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Preppie,
You have your unions, and I have my exclamation points. Period!
Welcome back!!
The great OSU > Preppie Mich!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:43 am
We picked up Satele because of his percieved ability to zone block well, but now that we are moving towards more of a “mixed-bag” blocking scheme, it seems like just a matter of time before Morris or even Veldheer take over that starting job.
After one pre-season game, our offensive woes appear to be the fault of ineffective recievers and a still developing chemistry between QB and the route-runners. But looking back on the last 3-4 years of awful passing attacks, we seem to have regressed since dumping guys that knew how to play the position.
With Moss and Collins in 2004-2005 we had an average to slightly below average offense, but still respectful.
Then we had Curry for a few years, who provided those much, much, much needed third-down completions. Then once Curry started to lose his edge, we have not found anyone to consistently fill that void.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Dakota,
I was thinking the same thing, but then I’m sure we would have heard something. Went to DR, hospital, meds, etc….
August 16th, 2010 at 8:45 am
The only C worse than Satele…Morris.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Lakota Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:45 am
The only C worse than Satele…Morris.
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The only C worse than Satele & Morris…Condo.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:48 am
I’d bet Condo could out block Morris lol.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:48 am
The only RB worse than Harvey Williams…
August 16th, 2010 at 8:50 am
….One-eyed Joe Aska.
August 16th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Lakota Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 8:50 am
….One-eyed Joe Aska.
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Isn’t he the plumber from Wasilla?
August 16th, 2010 at 8:51 am
One eye = lifetime Raider scholarship. Arrrr!
August 16th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Aska hit from the blind side….again….
August 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dnwb_hyOhyc/SorA6Y7dR5I/AAAAAAAAAfY/TAF2tYwbaJ4/s400/cable.jpg
August 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Wonder if he had to Aska lot of questions in the huddle… Muwahahahahah
August 16th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I hate to talk about politics when talking about the Raiders with the Great AM Crew, but I have a question:
How do You People feel about building an Islamic Center & Mosque on/ near Ground Zero?
August 16th, 2010 at 9:02 am
McClain IS practicing today
August 16th, 2010 at 9:03 am
I have feelings about that Mosque but I definitely wont bring them up here. No mood to argue today lol
August 16th, 2010 at 9:04 am
I hope McClain is back, that would be good news.
With him plugged into the middle our defense can only get better from here.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Pump the brakes!!! There is no need for panic, I saw major improvement on Thursday night, but is anyone expecting a super bowl run this year?
Campbell looked like a solid pro, made all of the reads, and was able to work the middle of the field, and underneath. Some people here are complaining about that,however that is a critical skill for this offense. especially when you consider the speed we have on the outside and in the slot, havent we all clamored for zack miller? Campbell already has a rythm with him and the backs. Timing to the wide outs will take more time, new offense, new coach , new players, this needs time to gel. I would like to see a few bubble screens or quick outs to DHB just to get the chemistry going. I dont think you will see what the passing game will really look like until about game 5 or 6. Be patient the passing game did not look bad, just out of synch. Game time reps will make this happen.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Bcz,
No arguments, I just want to hear opinions. Feel free to say what ever you want.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:07 am
How do You People feel about building an Islamic Center & Mosque on/ near Ground Zero?
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Raider O: slap in the face to the American people and the fact that Prez BO supports it only reinforces my position on him being one of the worst Presidents in American history
I’m glad that dope is over here in Missouri trying to get people to vote for Robin Carnahan, which almost certainly means she WON’T get elected
August 16th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I hate to talk about politics when talking about the Raiders with the Great AM Crew, but I have a question:
How do You People feel about building an Islamic Center & Mosque on/ near Ground Zero?
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So many misconceptions about this facility. It would more of a Muslim Community Center, analogous to a YMCA. And it only has a “prayer room”, not a formal sanctuary.
Mayor Bloomberg’s quote nails it, IMO: “We may not always agree with every one of our neighbors,” he said. “That’s life. And it’s part of living in such a diverse and dense city. But we also recognize that part of being a New Yorker is living with your neighbors in mutual respect and tolerance. It was exactly that spirit of openness and acceptance that was attacked on 9/11.”
A great article on the subject:
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2010/08/16/100816taco_talk_hertzberg#ixzz0wmm9KwG2
August 16th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I think everyone should follow the golden rule. Treat others as you wish to be treated.
If some whackjob white boys flew planes into Mecca, I doubt that Islam would allow a big mega church to be built on the spot. And rightfully so.
I have been studying culture at Cordon Blue and I am wise enough to make solid statments such as the above.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:09 am
RR,
I can always count on you. Thank you for your opinion bro.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Raider O: why don’t they put a Islamic Center & Mosque on/ near Cleveland?
those people are looking for someone or something else to worship now that LeBron James is in Miami!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Soccer Ambassador,
Makes Sense!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Bush just ran through RoMac for a TD
August 16th, 2010 at 9:12 am
In a famous letter — the one that holds that the United States “gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens” — George Washington offered a benediction:
“May the children of the stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants, while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.”
As Washington knew, Muslims are Abraham’s children, too. And those murderers who flew the planes into the towers were no more Muslim than Hitler was Christian.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:12 am
It is on private property. Stupid, insensitive move, but they can do it…but I won’t be surprised if it is removed by explosive means at some point by a 9/11 victim’s family member.
Keep your enemies closer…might pay off with some arrests.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Is it just me, or has the Raider offense been gelling for like 5 seasons? They are perpetually in a state of finding their “rhythm”. I think it some point you have to look at the personnel and realize that some of these guys are phenomenal athletes but may not be football players…and I am talking about the recievers in particular. None of the guys (other than Zach “The Truth” Miller) we had playing on Thursday night could hold a candle to the smoothness that Miles Austin displayed in getting to the ball, making the catch away from the defenders then getting upfield. We just have a bunch of track and field guys.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:14 am
RR,
They have Mosques and centers all over the states. The idea is to have one on Ground Zero. LOL
what about the People who want to honor the American Muslims who died there too? (not terrorists)
August 16th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I agree with you exactly Lakota. Its almost as if they chose that spot as a big “FU” to the American people. Should they be allowed to build a mosque in NYC absolutely… should it be visible from ground zero? absolutely NOT
August 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Bush just ran through RoMac for a TD
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McClain’s head probably isn’t in the game
…like when Sands lost his mom & Russell lost his uncle
wait. bad references!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Nick Miller on the brain, lol!
I don’t understand why you hate on the kid. Is he that much of a threat to JLH?
No one thinks Miller is ahead of JLH mayne. But a handful of you don’t acknowledge Miller at all. Wassup with that?
August 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IQqIq5mhJN0/SrU6mgBKQxI/AAAAAAAAAFU/a4ek7CKQUYI/s320/monkeybars.jpg
Yep, YMCA is right…here is the one RaiderO went to as a kid.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Dakota,
Always thinkng like an agent. lol
August 16th, 2010 at 9:16 am
The oline looked much better than last year. Henderson and Gallery played well. The right side needs work, but it did hold up fairly well against one of the best defensive fronts in football. The line does run block better than they pass protect, but last year we couldnt run either. The power scheme seems to have helped out out o line, they are at their best when they can line up and bully you.
Veldheer and Cambell were outstanding! Watching them just collapse the dallas front seven was some of the best run blocking I have seen in years. I like the idea of bringing these guys along slowly rotataing them in the line up, making the o line more of a platoon unit. I would love to see eventually veldeehr take the center spot, he was unreal inside. Cambpell at the guard spot was oustanding. When these guys get up to speed, and we march them out next to gallery and henderson, all of a sudden we have one fo the biggest strongest meanest lines in the game. Veldheer and Campbell from what i saw are big nasty monsters that pound the hell out of people, i hope bennet and boller took them out to dinner, the rooks made the vets look good. for now they are still too green to start and we have the luxury of having guys that are at least serviceable, until the time is right.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Raider O: I don’t know anything about NY geography (never been there)
but why couldn’t musl1ms be honored at Madison Square Garden ???
there obviously isn’t any basketball played there!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Why the Tommy Kelly bashing after game 1?
No push?????
Ok, Tommy Kelly is not a DOMINANT player. Who said he was?
Raiders defense was pretty stout in most people’s opinion. Feel free to nitpick, lol!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I hate to talk about politics when talking about the Raiders with the Great AM Crew, but I have a question:
How do You People feel about building an Islamic Center & Mosque on/ near Ground Zero?
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morning guys, and to answer that question, i guess im rather indifferent??
i know people associate 9/11 with the blanket muslim statement but i dont think one group should disparage an entire religious movement.
dunno thats how i feel
August 16th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Nick Miller on the brain
a handful of you don’t acknowledge Miller at all. Wassup with that?
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Who ???
August 16th, 2010 at 9:19 am
I am glad to hear some positive comments on Veldheer at Center. I also thought he looked good; especially on that QB sneak by Boller on the 4th and 1. Veldheer tunneled 5 yards down the field, with Boller right behind him, that was awesome!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:20 am
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Is it just me, or has the Raider offense been gelling for like 5 seasons? They are perpetually in a state of finding their “rhythm”. I think it some point you have to look at the personnel and realize that some of these guys are phenomenal athletes but may not be football players…and I am talking about the recievers in particular. None of the guys (other than Zach “The Truth” Miller) we had playing on Thursday night could hold a candle to the smoothness that Miles Austin displayed in getting to the ball, making the catch away from the defenders then getting upfield. We just have a bunch of track and field guys.
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Again new qb, new coach, new offense, it doesnt happen overnight. Relax
August 16th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Got to watch the game replayed on NFLN this weekend, gotta say it was a pretty good performance by the O-line, at least better than it has been
August 16th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Tommy Kelly is not a DOMINANT player. Who said he was?
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his agent did before that monster contract was signed, apparently!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:22 am
LMAO Dakota.
BSJ,
I don’t know the exact details if the Center. I know it will be on private property, and it will cost a lot. It will be a huge Center.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Priest,
I have to disagree with you on Satele mayne!
You are not the only one who rewatched the game. Satele NEVER handled Ratliff one on one. Not one time. Don’t know that he was asked to, but I do know there were several occasions where he had ZERO contact with ANYONE. Whiffs I say, Whiffs! When he did block someone, it was more of a ward off instead of an engaging push.
Seems to me like he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off.
The fact that Cable has him playing C already should tell you something.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:24 am
On Most running plays veldheer and campbell would push all the way through to the line backers ablsoluty blasting through that dallas line. Fellas These two rooks plus gallery and henderson give us the best o line we have seen around here in years. Al davis does it again.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:25 am
RR,
Because they died with everyone else on ground zero, so why build it in MSG? lol
August 16th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I don’t know the exact details if the Center. I know it will be on private property, and it will cost a lot. It will be a huge Center.
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O: what about those dudes in Iran who stoned a woman to death for having “sexual relations” with a married man? do they get to come & cut the ribbon?
August 16th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Jerry,
LMAO @ Nnamdi reading the WSJ.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I agree these guys need to get in tune, and have a lot of obstacles this early in the season, but I have very little hope that Murphy, Schilens or DHB will ever be true go-to recievers in this league. But I would be happy to be wrong on this one…
August 16th, 2010 at 9:29 am
O: my bad, I guess it hasn’t happened (yet)
Under 1ran’s strict interpretation of 1slamic law, sex before marriage is punishable by 100 lashes, but married offenders are sentenced to death by stoning. The stones used must be large enough to cause the condemned pain, but not sufficient to kill immediately.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10565103
August 16th, 2010 at 9:30 am
The o-line played well? LMAO, you must have accidentally put in a tape from 2007!
The first team o-line was manhandled.
I don’t really care what our second team o-line did.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:31 am
I have very little hope that Murphy, Schilens or DHB will ever be true go-to recievers in this league
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BBB: throw it to Higgins!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Rockstar, a man and woman were just stoned to death if Afgahnistan.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/08/16/2010-08-16_man_woman_stoned_to_death_by_villagers_in_afghanistan_for_adultery_taliban.html
August 16th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Tommy Kelly played much better in this game with seymour next to him. Dallas was stuffed up the middle. How often have we been able to say that over the last decade. kelly and seymour together shut it down. This is the job of the dt in a 4-3 scheme. Push the pocket and maintain gap control. If your dt is too eager to get in the backfield he becomes warren sapp and gerard warren out of position and out of the play. Our dt clogged the middle and forced everything to the outside. looked good to me.
Did Al Davis over pay for kelly, yes but Davis philosophy has always been spend the money and get the guy you want.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:35 am
watching Higgins makes me nervous, he always look like he is seconds away from getting demolished by a safety or gunner. He is so limp looking, running around on the field; I think that increases his shiftiness on returns, but man he is gonna hit by somebody hard enough to end his career one of these days.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Lakota: just read that article
really disheartening …
thanks for sharing. lot of sick people in this world
wonder what’ll happen when Barook finally pulls out!?!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Hey Raider O and RRS …
Gerrard Warren is STARTING for the Patriots. Just thought you might want to know.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:39 am
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/16/2010-08-16_a_sea_of_filth_near_ground_zer0_mosque_gets_all_the_press_but_porns_around_corne.html
should they put a Mosque at the red light district in Amsterdam ???
August 16th, 2010 at 9:40 am
They’ll stone you when you’re trying to be so good
They’ll stone you just like they said they would
They’ll stone you when you’re trying to go home
They’ll stone you when you’re there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned
August 16th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Gerrard Warren is STARTING for the Patriots. Just thought you might want to know.
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too bad we don’t get to play them this year!
Wait, they probably have him at UT next to Wilfork where he belongs … not a NT next to Tommy Kelly
LOL
August 16th, 2010 at 9:42 am
So Seymour is a “3 Tech”, huh? Disruptive, explosive and all, huh?
How much are we paying him again?
Twice what we were playing TK?
How’d he do against Dallas?
August 16th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Our front seven is one of the best in football. 5 sacks in one half!?!?!? Without blitzing???!?!??!?! If you noticed they would line up and show the elephant look, sometimes it was wimbly on other downs it was scott. they would show blitz and the drop out, this was forcing the cowgirls out of any kind of deep throws. The fact that they couldnt run it also put them in lots of long 2nd and 3rd downs. Shaugnessy and houston were ridicoulous!!!!! We knew about no.77 already he is going to be a beast. But houston seems to be even better than adverstised, moving him back to d end was pure genious. We have to also point out Bryant came in the game and looked like he has continued to improve. I can see houston shaugnessy and scott all in double digit sacks this year.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Get Stoned!!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Warren is now a DE
August 16th, 2010 at 9:44 am
How’d he do against Dallas?
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what does the film say? film doesn’t lie
Seymour (like Kelly) is overpaid
August 16th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Houston needs to keep that goofy haircut and ride it all the way to 10-12 sacks this year!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:47 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Hey Raider O and RRS …
Gerrard Warren is STARTING for the Patriots. Just thought you might want to know.
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only due to T. Warren’s injury.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Actually, on that first sack by Houston it was because Seymour collapsed the pocket on Romo.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:49 am
What can i say about Mclaine, he was awesome. I noticed him all over the field. he ran with tight ends, covered them and took them out of passing plays. he was always near the ball once the backs were forced outside, even chasing down a back that leaked out for a quick dump off. He was there in the middle when they tried to go up the gut. I am impressed, he looks like he is already on par with romo, and millen, but couls potentially be one of the best ever at his position! Houston and Mclaine shaunessy and scott, and people say Al davis doesnt know talent.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Both of Houston’s sacks were due to coverage or the QB holding onto the ball too long.
Matt S. sack was legit.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Mistic, stop bogarting the kool-aid…
August 16th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Gerrard Warren is NOT starting for NE… They run a 3-4 and Wilfork is DEFINITELY the Nose. The Warren starting on their DL is DE Ty Warren and he was just placed on IR.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Lakota Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Both of Houston’s sacks were due to coverage or the QB holding onto the ball too long.
Matt S. sack was legit.
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Coverage sacks arent legit? If Lamar gets 22 sacks this year because of Coverage will he not be DROY?
August 16th, 2010 at 9:53 am
He is starting because of an injury! Don’t let the facts come in a way of a good argument.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I am just saying that Houston didn’t blow his man away and tear into the QB on either of his sacks.
Yes they count, but I hope you understand the difference….
August 16th, 2010 at 9:55 am
LOL!
Warren was the starting DE for the Patriots this weekend.
Ty Warren went on IR????
Looks like he’ll be starting next weekend too.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:56 am
BCZ: Darren & Walter McFadden are legit
almost TOO LEGIT!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:56 am
I know what you are saying. I didnt watch the game so I dont know how long Romo held the ball but fact is we got there, and if we are playing decent enough in coverage to get there than that is a good sign!
August 16th, 2010 at 9:57 am
# Lakota Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Both of Houston’s sacks were due to coverage or the QB holding onto the ball too long.
Matt S. sack was legit.
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The qb had to hold the ball, noone was open! Most sacks are coverage sacks, blown blocking assignments are rare in profootball. Houston stood out because of his motor, this is why the raiders drafted him. he fits with our scheme, tight bump and run man coverage, takes away the short throws. the single high safety takes away the deep threat. The d line creates pressure and takes advantage of qbs having to take more time looking for open receivers. Al Davis defense, doesnt look so bad after all.
“the quaterback must go down, and he must go down hard”
Al Davis.
August 16th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Jwigg: should we be impressed with “Money” Warren starting over one of these guys?
Brandon Deaderick
Damione Lewis
Kyle Love
Darryl Richard
Kade Weston
Mike Wright
August 16th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Don’t let the facts come in a way of a good argument.
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Who’s arguing?????
You said Warren sucked, or something to that effect, and now he finds himself starting for a SB contender doing exactly what you said he couldn’t. You do realize that a 3-4 DE does nothing but clog up blockers for the LBs, right?
August 16th, 2010 at 10:00 am
coverage sacks with CJ37 on the field?
Jwigg: please correct these guys!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Who was in here the other day saying the two 49er rookies weren’t even close to starting?
“First-round draft picks Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati were officially named starters Monday at right tackle and left guard, respectively, which comes as no surprise given their high-end status.”
August 16th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Trade DMAC for Gerard Warren!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Jwigg: should we be impressed with “Money” Warren starting over one of these guys?
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Not at all. He plays for another team, so who cares?
Was just updating you on his travels.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Don’t get me wrong, I think any sack is a good sack.
And one game obviously does not make a player.
I am just saying that I want to see Houston beat his man and sack the QB before I crown him some great pass rusher. Hopefully he does it against the Bears this weekend!
Now Matt S. sack was the real deal. He got to the QB the old fashioned way…
August 16th, 2010 at 10:05 am
No way Warren is in good enough shape to be the starting DE in their 3-4… I just dont see it.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:05 am
coverage sacks with CJ37 on the field?
Jwigg: please correct these guys!
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Sure thing!
CJ gives up a lot of big plays!
Does he get beat every time? Of course not. But when he does get beat, boy does he get beat.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Jwigg says:
Gerrard Warren is STARTING for the Patriots. Just thought you might want to know.
Warren was the starting DE for the Patriots this weekend.
Looks like he’ll be starting next weekend too.
starting for a SB contender
does nothing but clog up blockers for the LBs
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LOL!
you know who else is STARTING on a different team?
Kirk Morrison
August 16th, 2010 at 10:07 am
CJ should get more safety help from Huffy
August 16th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Everyone on the D-line played well. Reminded me of that San Diego game on opening night last season (or at least the first three quarters of it). Let’s hope Brad Roll has these guys conditioned for 4 quarters of football this season.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Let’s hope Brad Roll has these guys conditioned for 4 quarters of football this season.
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it wasn’t a matter of being gassed imo
it was a matter of Marshall’s prevent D to “protect” a small lead
should have stayed aggressive. we were harassing Rivers all night and when when we gave him time to throw, he connected with his targets – like any decent QB
August 16th, 2010 at 10:12 am
We knew that RRS ….
Different team is right, not a playoff contending team, let alone a SB contending team.
Speaking of Captain Kirk, did you catch the Jacksonville game this weekend on NFL Network?
August 16th, 2010 at 10:14 am
At least our o-line is better than the Rams’ o-line.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Bradford is going to take a lot of hits this season…whew, they sucked.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Speaking of Captain Kirk, did you catch the Jacksonville game this weekend on NFL Network?
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nope.
I’m guessing you walked away impressed though, right?
August 16th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I saw a few series, nothing to report one way or another.
Didn’t see that much of any games except the Raiders. Bits and pieces here and there.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Jwigg: why are you talking up the Patriots?
the Jets & Dolphins are on the rise in the AFC East …
August 16th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Gerrard Warren is starting because Ty Warren is out for the season.
They also have Derrick Burgess starting at OLB.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:23 am
The Jets are not on the rise… Fantasy football only works out on NFL.com not in the REAL NFL…
August 16th, 2010 at 10:25 am
BCZ: the Jets were the best team in that division as recent as LAST YEAR
you don’t remember?
that was BEFORE all the upgrades …
August 16th, 2010 at 10:32 am
The Jets improve from last season, and I think thatsxtge best team in that division.
They added S Holmes, A Cormartie, LT, J Taylor, and their NT is healthy this season.
Top 5 defense, top 10 rushing attack, and they will win that division.
I wish we hired a guy Like R Ryan! I’m not a 3-4 fan, but I like that guy!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:32 am
the good teams always try to keep a competitive edge in the offseason …
why do you think the Lakers added Barnes, Blake & Ratliff ???
Celtics added Shaq, Jermaine & Wafer
August 16th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I dont agree that they were the best team in the division last year. They backed into the playoffs simply because the Colts couldnt be bothered to play the scheduled games in the final weeks. I would hardly LT and Cromartie “upgrades”… they didnt help SD. I would be willing to be money that the Jets will NOT win their division.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:35 am
How can you say they improved by cutting Jones and signing LT… That is major downgrade if you ask me!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Its alright, every year there is the one bandwagon team that everyone jumps on… this year its the Just End The Season Jets…
August 16th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Jerrymcd
Satele looked at by trainers. They’ve taped his right bicep, wrist, forearm . . . left arm like a mummy about 1 hour ago via PockeTwit
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They should just wrap him up totally and mail him back to Miami. He’s not doing us any good. Pick up a FA for the center position or bite the bullet and stick Veldheer in there now.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:39 am
lol @ someone thinking Satele has a bicep!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:41 am
LMAO JB
August 16th, 2010 at 10:42 am
terrible is the play of Satele, but terrible is the laughter & jokes about his injuries …
I was hoping that either Satele or Morris would step it up at Center since Tom Cable seemed so content with the position prior to the 1st preseason game at Dallas
August 16th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Cable making Mario Henderson do pushups between drills … for second day in row
Eugene interception as high pass goes off DHB’s hands
Defenders yelling “Hue” as Campbell throws two more incompletions
I am not saying Chris Johnson is great, but he is a lot better than Routt. Coaches have to see that
Cable calls false start, backs up offense 5
-Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
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sounds like the weekend practices were pretty sloppy!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Bad News: Satele & Morris have already stepped it up. That was their best. Unfortunately they were only able to win the “Most like a turnstyle” award. The Stop, do not pass here or collect $200 award has eluded them due to complete incompetence.
There was a reason Miami gave us him in exchange to Jake Grove. That was a prime example of throwing schit at the wall and receiving the same in like kind. No matter what color you paint a turd, it’s still a turd.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Trade DMAC for Jake Grove!
August 16th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Niners trading Balmer to Seahags… surprising.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:51 am
McFadden, the CB, is going to keep the pressure on CJ. That’s a good thing. CJ will benefit from that competition.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:53 am
# bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Niners trading Balmer to Seahags… surprising.
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How can you trade what isn’t there anymore? I guess this guy just decided to take his ball & go home. He didn’t like he fact that another guy was eating his lunch and was taking over his position at training camp – or so the story goes. What a DIK.
August 16th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Alex Smith dreaded the postgame locker room more than he did the Colts’ pass rush Sunday.
The 49ers’ quarterback had gone 3-for-9 with an interception in his first exhibition start of the year. He had 37 passing yards in four drives with no points scored and a 7.4 passer rating.
Imagine his surprise when the words “quarterback controversy” weren’t mentioned during his brief interview after backup David Carr put up 20 points in a 37-17 victory over Indianapolis.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/16/SP2L1ETVGE.DTL
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LOL!
Jason Campbell didn’t impress me on Thursday night, but it sounds like he’s still the best QB in the bay
August 16th, 2010 at 10:54 am
He was pretty solid last year too… guess they are making a real statement about the guy trading him in the division
August 16th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Is Saturday’s game in Chicago going to be televised in the Bay Area? Anyone know what channel or Network?
August 16th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Satele looked at by trainers. They’ve taped his right bicep, wrist, forearm . . . left arm like a mummy
August 16th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Mornin JB, Bo, RR, Dakota, NATION!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:24 am
good morning Dirty!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I dont have NFLN so i dont even get to see replays of our games. It blows. Good thing is my brother, also a Raiders fan, has Sunday ticket so I do get to see all the regular season games.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:26 am
BCZ: just watch’em on-line for free!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:36 am
You guys try ATDHE.net for games.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Frye and Ford no helmet, will watch padded practice. McClain, Seabass return. No sign of SWilliams, Schilens, Stewart, JRich, DMcFadden.
about 3 hours ago via PockeTwit
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I see Chaz Schilens and DMAC still sitting on the sidelines…..sure hope they are ready “when the lights come on”
DHB Watch – If he goes through Saturday with 0 catches….do we start to get concerned?
August 16th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Let’s see if the Raiders let anyone go tomorrow and bring in anyone new. Also, I heard on Sirius NFL Radio today that the Vikings are now considering bringing in Jeff Garcia – what a f’ing nightmare for them!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:47 am
# mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Did Al Davis over pay for kelly, yes but Davis philosophy has always been spend the money and get the guy you want.
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Sure, Antonio, here’s a 50 mil contract…I WANT YOU.
Gabril? Oh dude, I really WANT YOU AS WELL…here’s 35 mil.
Javon? You spray expensive champagne..I WANT YOU, TOO…how much? 55 mil? That’s all? sure,..no problem.
Kwame? Are you still the worst tackle in the league? You are?..I STILL WANT YOU..how’s 10 mil contract sound?
Kelly? Torn ACL? Defense improved from 5.2 ypc to 4.7 after you went out with your ACL? MAKES SENSE TO ME…HERE’S 50 MIL FOR YOU, TOO.
Yeah, when Al wants someone, he throws bushels of money at them.
Problem is it’s obvious these players aren’t worth the contracts Al offers, and even worse is that Al changes his mind shortly after deciding this player is “the answer”.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Campbell looked better than I thought hew would at RG…
August 16th, 2010 at 11:48 am
SnB
It would be nice if the Raiders can open the season against the Titans healthy and ready, and get off to a good start. With an idea of who they are.
Chaz & DMac…………………….gota go.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:48 am
I thought this was funny…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
Dukes was a former Bronco and suuuuuuugs!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Where do you watch them online? I would love to watch the Dallas game.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
270. We might have a passing attack if Chazeroo could stay healthy dammit!
August 16th, 2010 at 11:54 am
266.SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 11:43 am
DHB Watch – If he goes through Saturday with 0 catches….do we start to get concerned?
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Depends.
He was targeted ONCE in the Dallas game on the first play. Thats it.
A holes like Jamie Dukes don’t stop to figure that sh*t out.
By game 4 of the regs if he doesn’t have any catches then we freak out a little bit…
August 16th, 2010 at 11:58 am
I heard on Sirius NFL Radio today that the Vikings are now considering bringing in Jeff Garcia
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another body for preseason, sounds like.
Jackson, Rosenfels & rookie 6th rounder Joe Webb aren’t enough ???
why not Jevan Snead?
August 16th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I see Chaz Schilens and DMAC still sitting on the sidelines…..sure hope they are ready “when the lights come on”
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S&B,
RB: Bush, Bennett, Cartwright
WR: Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Higgins, Ford, Watkins
whats wrong with this line-up?
good enough to beat the Titans imo
they “key” will be Seymour & Kelly against Titans RB Chris Johnson
August 16th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I would go with Nicky Miller over Watkins; I would also throw DMac into the mix, because I really believe he will get a few short passes as part of the West Coast short-game.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Kell: after seeing Jason Campbell’s first game … do you wish we would’ve tried harder to get McNabb ???
still too early to tell?
August 16th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Medias T Bowner…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tebow-autograph-flap-raises-hard-media-questions?urn=nfl-262717
August 16th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I was a huge critic of TK before the first preseason game … gotta give him his props, though; he did pretty well, imo.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I would also throw DMac into the mix, because I really believe he will get a few short passes as part of the West Coast short-game.
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Tbone: Agreed, however the scenario was whether or not the offense could get it done w/o Darren & Chaz
some think it’d be anemic – I disagree
August 16th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Dan Le Batard should change his name to Dan The Retard!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Dan Le Batard
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Who ???
August 16th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
“…a profession that has placed such a high internal value on the rules of objective coverage”
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Not since the Republican media take over…and really, EPSN hasn’t been terribly objective about a certain sports franchise for years now…
August 16th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Given the scenario – if we had to get along without D-Mac and Schilens, I say just load up on runs with Cartwright and Bush and sprinkle in lots of short passes to Zach; slant routes to JLH and up routes to Murphy (and an occasional bomb to DHB). I think we would be okay.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 11:47 am
# mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Did Al Davis over pay for kelly, yes but Davis philosophy has always been spend the money and get the guy you want.
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Sure, Antonio, here’s a 50 mil contract…I WANT YOU.
Gabril? Oh dude, I really WANT YOU AS WELL…here’s 35 mil.
Javon? You spray expensive champagne..I WANT YOU, TOO…how much? 55 mil? That’s all? sure,..no problem.
Kwame? Are you still the worst tackle in the league? You are?..I STILL WANT YOU..how’s 10 mil contract sound?
Kelly? Torn ACL? Defense improved from 5.2 ypc to 4.7 after you went out with your ACL? MAKES SENSE TO ME…HERE’S 50 MIL FOR YOU, TOO.
Yeah, when Al wants someone, he throws bushels of money at them.
Problem is it’s obvious these players aren’t worth the contracts Al offers, and even worse is that Al changes his mind shortly after deciding this player is “the answer”.
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I said that Davis spends the money on the guys he wants, I didnt say it always works out well. You cant have it both ways, ask yourself would you rather have a model like the browns, or cradinals, where they dont pay players? At least Davis has the balls to pull the trigger, very much like jerry jones, steinbrenner, and others. This is why we rarely have people hold out for money. This is also why people are willing to come to the silver and black evnthough we havent been winning.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
The media hasn’t been objective about Raider Nation — that’s just the way we like it … “f” ‘em all!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Some of the free agents are like Kim Kardashian. A friend of mine at work said to me “She’s hot!” I replied, “so is the front burner on my stove, but I wouldn’t touch that, either!”
August 16th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 11:47 am
# mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Did Al Davis over pay for kelly, yes but Davis philosophy has always been spend the money and get the guy you want.
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Sure, Antonio, here’s a 50 mil contract…I WANT YOU.
Gabril? Oh dude, I really WANT YOU AS WELL…here’s 35 mil.
Javon? You spray expensive champagne..I WANT YOU, TOO…how much? 55 mil? That’s all? sure,..no problem.
Kwame? Are you still the worst tackle in the league? You are?..I STILL WANT YOU..how’s 10 mil contract sound?
Kelly? Torn ACL? Defense improved from 5.2 ypc to 4.7 after you went out with your ACL? MAKES SENSE TO ME…HERE’S 50 MIL FOR YOU, TOO.
Yeah, when Al wants someone, he throws bushels of money at them.
Problem is it’s obvious these players aren’t worth the contracts Al offers, and even worse is that Al changes his mind shortly after deciding this player is “the answer”.
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Sure its easy to identify the mistakes but the old man has also landed some quality guys over the years. Please dont give me the old davis didnt bring him in routine, it was coach so and so. Davis signs the checks and we all know none wears silver and black without davis approval. How about this list of signings and retentions. jerry rice, tim brown, bill roomnowski, rod woodson, eric allen,eric turner, jeff hostetler, we could play this game all day. For every larry brown there is also a lyle alzado, lets be fair and quit hating on the old man.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Nnamdi21,
The reason why I am concerned about DHB is because the body of work last year was abysmal. Granted, having JaDavis throw the ball didn’t help, and nor did the Tom Cable playcalling.
But what do we have to base anything off of with this kid? Louis Murphy, CHaz Schilens and JLH have all had more production under same situations…..DHB is way behind right now and I haven’t seen ANYTHING in 4 2009 preseason games, 12 NFL starts and 1 2010 PReseason game.
If he is going to be “force fed” into the lineup…I’d like to see a catch or two.
The fact that he only had 1 ball thrown to him is not an excuse…it suggests he’s not gettting open…Murphy and others “who were on the field” were targeted multiple times.
I just want to know if DHB will be a serviceable receiver this year….I am certainly not expecting average or greatness…..given his STEEP learning curve from Maryland.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Rockstar,
I think Schilens is the best receiver on the team. Not having him will hurt.
I think Murphy and JLH are better targets than DHB….but draft status and money will rule that decision.
As for the running game…we can use DMAC’s explosiveness…especially given the passing game is going to struggle….Bush will be fine.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
“I was hoping that either Satele or Morris would step it up at Center since Tom Cable seemed so content with the position prior to the 1st preseason game at Dallas.”
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He couldn’t have been too content. He started playing Veldheer there in camp and there was ceratinly no mention of doing that when they drafted him.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
As for the running game…we can use DMAC’s explosiveness…especially given the passing game is going to struggle….Bush will be fine.
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LMAO @ explosiveness. The only dramatic results he has produced are turnovers.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Following Jerry’s twitter and it sounds like the passing game is a little sharper today. Trouble is they could be dropping everything again tomorrow. Sure would like to see some consistency.
Best tweet so far; “Nnamdi, having finished the Wall Street Journal, joins his teammates on the field.”
A different breed, today’s athlete.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I dont see how DHB is getting so much negativity after one preseason game. He has one pass thrown his way which had excellent coverage on thats why it was incomplete.
On the 4th and 1 play DHB beat his man on a quick slant and was open in the middle but Cambell threw it the other way.
I think the guy is working hard and improving, beating his man but not getting the looks. I think it is play calling by jackson
August 16th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
With JC your air attack will never get off the ground. As a redskin fan in dc he lost games that if we had an able qb we would have won. He got hurt 3 years ago with 4 games left and you would have thought we had a whole different team. Collins threw the ball down field something JC does not do and we won all 4 games and made the playoffs. He will dump off and dump off and you will be changing qb’s by week 8. Sorry that we dumped that bum on you raider fans.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
The pass that was thrown to DHB was almost (and probably SHOULD have been) intercepted. The DB broke early on the ball and DHB never really had a chance!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
JT52,
I admire that DHB is working hard and improving. My point is that he is going to be the starter…over Louis Murphy if Schilens is healthy.
Why the hell can’t DHB at least perform to Murphy’s standards.
Is he beating his man? How do you know this? Unlike JaDavis, Jason Campbell can read more than half the field…if he’s open why isn’t Campbell targeting him.
Last year was terrible for DHB. Under the same JaDavis conditions, Murphy led the team in receptions. That’s progress. DHB? 9 catches.
That’s the baseline right now. Not 7-7 drills in shells at the Napa Marriott
I am hard on the kid because the kid is going to start over Murphy. 1 reception and then disappearing ain’t cutting it man.
He’s got two preseason games left to really show. Otherwise, its another “when the lights come on” scenario. And that usually doesn’t work out well for us.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
I think Schilens is the best receiver on the team. Not having him will hurt.
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S&B: when have we seen Chaz as the best WR on the team in games that matter?
2007 was probably either Porter or Curry
2008 was Higgins
2009 was Murphy (despite 9 drops)
Chaz was the camp sensation last year. the highly touted #1 WR
basically, he was last year’s Heyward-Bey.
nothing more, nothing less
August 16th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
The pass that was thrown to DHB was almost (and probably SHOULD have been) intercepted. The DB broke early on the ball and DHB never really had a chance!
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Agreed. wasn’t he being covered by Pro Bowler Terence Newman too ???
August 16th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Campbell stared him down & DHB never came back to the ball…thought it was gonna be a pick 6.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Yeah, that pass was uncatchable… despite what the naysayers may say
(I’m looking at you, Bill Williamson!! ESPN looney)
August 16th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
How about this list of signings and retentions. jerry rice, tim brown, bill roomnowski, rod woodson, eric allen,eric turner, jeff hostetler,
…………….
LOL. You got anything a little more current?
August 16th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Something is wrong when the #1 receiver only gets targeted once…while everyone else is targeted multiple times.
Again, if DHB was allowed to develop and not be forced into the starting lineup….I wouldn’t complain.
But this kid, like last year, will be one of the two starters on the field game 1.
If he is only pulling down 1 or 2 receptions….we lose!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Throw the kid a screen pass or something…just make an effort to get him involved in the offense.
#1 receiver folks. #1 receiver.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
But this kid, like last year, will be one of the two starters on the field game 1.
If he is only pulling down 1 or 2 receptions….we lose!
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S&B: I don’t know man. 2 catches per game = 32 grabs on the year (Jerry Mac predicted 35 for DHB’s soph season)
I expect to see Murphy, Higgins & Watkins (or Ford) on the field quite often – even if Heyward-Bey & Schilens are the starters
hopefully this offense won’t be so predictable!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Yamon Figurs looked like he had some nice hands in the game against Dallas.
If he keeps it up…he might beat out Watkins or at least make the practice squad!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
If our #1 receiver is not seen as a threat….expect that all too familiar 8 & 9 man front…..and then calls from the peanut gallery for Bush to be benched!
August 16th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I would like to see Hue call more plays with play action and where Campbell can roll out a bit just to move the pocket and by himself some more time.
The Ravens do that alot and so do the Eagles. It is very effective to buy the QB more time to throw.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Rockstar,
He has to improve on the 1 catch every 2 games we saw last year.
I am all for development, but his start to me was so bad that it is very concerning.
Seeing 1 pass targeted in the 1st preseason game sounds like more of the same.
Maybe its the cynicism getting the best of me again. I need to see catches…not just great effort and hard work…receptions.
Nick Miller is getting the ball. So is Murphy and Zach Miller….even in the 1 preseason game.
DHB should play the entire 1st half this weekend
August 16th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Schilens is the #1. Makes more sense to have Murphy in the slot cuz I think he is more effective there…
August 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
And DHB should play more because he is just as raw as Ford, Nick Miller and others.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Throw the kid a screen pass or something…just make an effort to get him involved in the offense.
#1 receiver folks. #1 receiver.
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Yep!
They need to get DHB involved by throwing a WR screen or doing some reverses.
Just some easy play passes to get him involved and get his confidence on game day going!
I was screaming for this all of last year and Hue Jackson better not pull a Cable when it comes to play calling!
After watching the Dallas game though….Hue’s play calling was noticeably better than Cables.
August 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
S&B: our bread & butter should be running the ball and playing good defense. control the clock. dominate time of possession and field position. limit turnovers on offense & create turnovers on defense. Campbell should just be asked to manage the game. passes to Zach Miller, McFadden and the young wides for short completions, which could turn into big gains with speedy wideouts
if we can’t run the ball or stop the run, we lose.
the # of catches by Chaz or Darrius = not important to me. just catch the ball when it comes your way and BLOCK until you hear the whistle
August 16th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
I think it makes more sense to have DHB in the slot. Murphy has done well enough on the outside…
August 16th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Rockstar,
I hear you. Run the ball don’t turn the ball over and play good defense.
I hope the Raiders are patient enough to follow your advice.
But the receivers have to open up the field too. Otherwise its 8 & 9 man fronts.
Of course, JaDavis was so inept it didn’t matter what we ran.
Anyway, just run a modern offense that is focused on running 1st.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
How about this list of signings and retentions. jerry rice, tim brown, bill roomnowski, rod woodson, eric allen,eric turner, jeff hostetler,
…………….
LOL. You got anything a little more current?
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How try # 21. Namdi island on for size!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
it’s a pass happy league.
fortunately, the Raiders have a good secondary (minus Routt & Eugene)
unfortunately, we don’t have the o-line or chemistry with Jason and the young wides to keep up or follow suit … thus calling for a balanced offense. perhaps run first, pass when needed. Take a blueprint from the Jets last year, except Campbell is much better than Sanchez!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
S&B: our bread & butter should be running the ball and playing good defense. control the clock. dominate time of possession and field position. limit turnovers on offense & create turnovers on defense.
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Absolutely agreed. The Gruden philosophy is the only way the Raiders have won in the past 20 years.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
I would like to see them be physical and run the football in the next game to set up the pass.
Compared to the Dallas game where they wanted to pass from the get go….which is understandable….but they need to work on run physical and consistent run blocking in the next game IMO.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
POUND THE ROCK vs. Chicago!!!!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
The one play call that I really questioned and had me scratching my head was calling a 4 WR set pass play on that 4th and 1?? I hope Hue just wanted to test something out there.
Silly play call! You pound the football in that situation or do a bootleg.
I hope we don’t see any weird play calls like that during the season!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
LMAO @ “The Gruden Philosophy”.
You mean, take a dominant defensive team and turn it into sh!t? Then get knocked out of the NFL by your former team?
We can do a lot better.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Pressure Defense, with blanket coverage, solid kicking game,power running game plus deep strike passing game. Excuse me but this is Davis football 101! Funny how everyone wants to give credit to someone else win the raiders win.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
After watching the Dallas game though….Hue’s play calling was noticeably better than Cables.
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Was Hues play calling better, or is our playbook just better now that our QB’s IQ isn’t purple.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
bcz24 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
After watching the Dallas game though….Hue’s play calling was noticeably better than Cables.
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Was Hues play calling better, or is our playbook just better now that our QB’s IQ isn’t purple.
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I think it was so far at least…since there wasn’t alot of weird head scratching play calls except for that 4th and 1, 4 WR pass play call.
Also, Campbell said they didn’t open the playbook, but kept things pretty basic for that first game.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Hey Jerry,
So you know, I could have done that oil change for like, $500.
Go Raiders!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
LMAO @ “The Gruden Philosophy”.
You mean, take a dominant defensive team and turn it into sh!t? Then get knocked out of the NFL by your former team?
We can do a lot better.
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I’m not aware of Gruden turning any team to “sh!t”. Did he ever lose 11 or more games for 7 straight years? Anyhow, the philosophy that Rockstar said we’re going to use this year, of focusing on ball control with the offense, is exactly what Gruden did when he was here. And I agree with him. That’s all.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Pressure Defense, with blanket coverage,
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Is there any team in the league that doesn’t have this goal?
August 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I dont have a huge problem with the fourth and one call. Yes you could have smashed in there but also spreading with four wides did give the receivers one on ones. Actually ther erceiver was open but campbell missed him. That pass hits the wide out in stride it could be much more than just a first down.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
The starting wide receivers have to be a factor. Meaning, they can’t disappear for entire stretches. I kind of wish DHB had a little “give me the damn ball” attitude so that it wouldn’t be so easy to neglect the kid.
4 2009 preseason games – 2 receptions
12 2009 reg season starts 9 receptions
1 2010 preseason start – o receptions and 1 pass attempted
The lights need to come on!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Mistic,
Ball was tipped at the line.
Really liked Campbells accuracy. Maybe just not used to seeing any.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
SnB, you’re blaming people other than Russell for our offense last year. That’s forbidden in here.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Pressure Defense, with blanket coverage,
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Is there any team in the league that doesn’t have this goal?
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My point is not about team goals but rather the Davis philosphy on defense. Blanket denotes press man bump and run, and no every team does not run that scheme.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Russell was responsible for the entire organization in his 3 years here, ever facet of it. That’s what’s been agreed upon amongst the nation. You’d better get into line. Blaming an offensive player other than Russell for his own mistakes last year is flat out unacceptable. You will blame Russell, or you’ll be asked to leave. Are we understood?
August 16th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Louis Murphy
16 gms – 34 receptions 521 yds 4 Tds
Louis Murphy has a track record. That’s why I am not critical of him right now. He continues to improve and you can forecast him being a solid receiver for the Raiders.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Mistic, what owner doesn’t have the philosophy of…gee, blanketing receivers and putting pressure on the quarterback? Is there any owner in the league that DOESN’T want to see this out of their defense? Is there any defense in the league that has a goal of NOT putting pressure on the offense and NOT covering receivers?
August 16th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Mistic,
Ball was tipped at the line.
Really liked Campbells accuracy. Maybe just not used to seeing any.
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I thought Campbell looked very good, I am excited to see the offense with all of its weapons. Also I think it may take about half a season or so before the offense gels, and campbell and receivers get on the same page.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Just to expand on Al Davis’s unique approach to the game, he also wants to score points on offense, doesn’t he? A real trailblazer… Blanketing covering on defense and scoring points on offense. It’s Al’s way or the highway!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Mistic, what game were you watching? Campbell and the first string offense couldn’t do anything.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I dont have a huge problem with the fourth and one call. Yes you could have smashed in there but also spreading with four wides did give the receivers one on ones. Actually ther erceiver was open but campbell missed him. That pass hits the wide out in stride it could be much more than just a first down.
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Sorry….but calling a 4 WR set pass play on 4th and 1, is just plain silly!
It’s not logical either…low percentage pass play on 4th and 1 is NOT good play calling…especially when converting 4th downs is of the utmost importance!
If you call a pass play in that situation, then it should be a play action to the TE, or a roll out pass play to the TE or a flat to the FB or a short quick out to a WR on a play action roll out.
Or a QB draw or run should have been called instead.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I was a little pissed Campbell hung Murphy out to dry on that stupid dump in the middle of the field. We still seem to have the 3 yard routes on 3rd and 6 in the playbook as well. Just throw it away or try to make something happen with your feet instead of risking a turnover or injury.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I dont have a huge problem with the fourth and one call. Yes you could have smashed in there but also spreading with four wides did give the receivers one on ones. Actually ther erceiver was open but campbell missed him. That pass hits the wide out in stride it could be much more than just a first down.
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Thats why you don’t call a spread 4 wide pass play.
Low percentage.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
if Satele has a serious injury, does that give the starting job to Morris or Veldheer at Chicago ???
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I was a little pissed Campbell hung Murphy out to dry on that stupid dump in the middle of the field. We still seem to have the 3 yard routes on 3rd and 6 in the playbook as well. Just throw it away or try to make something happen with your feet instead of risking a turnover or injury.
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Agreed!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Mistic, what owner doesn’t have the philosophy of…gee, blanketing receivers and putting pressure on the quarterback? Is there any owner in the league that DOESN’T want to see this out of their defense? Is there any defense in the league that has a goal of NOT putting pressure on the offense and NOT covering receivers?
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I realize that you dont like Davis, but this does not change the point I am making. My point is about Davis and his particular method single high saftey, natural pressure 4-3, and man press. I wasnt talking about the end result/desired outcomes/ or goals.
Also for those of you that beleive davis is stuck in his ways, Just take a look at this years defense, DAVIS IS ALLOWING MARSHALL TO TWEAK IT!!! Davis will let his coaches try out things…but they better work
August 16th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
if Satele has a serious injury, does that give the starting job to Morris or Veldheer at Chicago ???
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Morris unfortunately….
I would like see Veldheer more though!
August 16th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
This is for J Wiggle only. If you watch Center play in most cases you’ll ntic that they often are blcking space because most centrs play in what is often dscribed as a phone booth that is his assignment. On the play in question where he is said to have whiffed, what really happend is he passed on his player thinking he would pick up a blitzing LB but there was none. He misread the defense and quickly tried to recover but it was too late……sack.
The center calls the rptections so he has to know what the defense is trying to do and set line play. On running plays while he wasn’t dominant he was effective. So pass plays are different because you don’t know if they’ll drop someone or run a game up front. His respnsibility is OG to OG anything up the middle if nothing comes there he’ll often look uninvolved. But he’s actually doing his job.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
what game were you watching? Campbell and the first string offense couldn’t do anything.
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yeah.
believe it or not, Campbell looked better in a Jim Zorn offense than a Hue Jackson offense …
hoping for better results against Chicago.
Just Fire Baby called it. Dallas has JCamp’s number. terrible first half
August 16th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
priesttj Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
This is for J Wiggle only.
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LOL!
why don’t you just ask for his e-mail address or facebook or twitter page?
that’s sad
August 16th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I could be wrong, but it sees to me that working on passing game trumps “pounding the rock” in the preseason.
Yeah, we need to practice running the ball as well, but working on timing and execution when we throw the ball is where the work really need to get done, and that should be obvious based on the Dallas game.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
My take on the 4th and 1 was Campbell was looking for the mismatch and found Miller covered be Brooking out wide. If the ball wasn’t tipped it would have been pass interference because Brooking had both hands all over Miller with the ball in the air.
We do need to see Campbell outside of the pocket though. That should really open things up across the middle for Murphy and Miller.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
if Satele has a serious injury, does that give the starting job to Morris or Veldheer at Chicago ???
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Morris. Veld isn’t ready but will get more reps and thats good…
August 16th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
352. Agreed.
We haven’t and won’t see all the Raiders have got till wekk one…
August 16th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Mistic, what game were you watching? Campbell and the first string offense couldn’t do anything.
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I think the 1st team offense looked light years better than last year, and really good for running out a new qb, new oc, and new terminology. Did you really expect the more than that so soon. Please people get real, it wont happen overnight, this is not madden football on play station.
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# DKnight007 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I dont have a huge problem with the fourth and one call. Yes you could have smashed in there but also spreading with four wides did give the receivers one on ones. Actually ther erceiver was open but campbell missed him. That pass hits the wide out in stride it could be much more than just a first down.
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Thats why you don’t call a spread 4 wide pass play.
Low percentage.
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Since when is RAIDER FOOTBALL PERCENTAGE FOOTBALL????
besides this is preseason so there could be any number of reasons why that play was called, this does not mean that plays will be called that way when we go live.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
wekk one..ugh…stupid qwerty
August 16th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
And one more point to make myself feel better. Dallas has a very good defense. Actually #2 in the league last year in points allowed. And they were playing at home….and this was their second game….and we have a new OC….and a new QB….and our OL is………:)
August 16th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
where is the fix?
August 16th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
4th and 1; good call, not good execution. Had the pass been caught Hue Jackson would have been praised to no end in here for thinking outside the box and everybody would be talking about what a breath of fresh air he brought to the team. About how his creativity would take us to new heights, how all of our weapons would all of a sudden become the scourge of the NFL, and questions would start to arise as to how far we could go in the playoffs.
You know, the normal reactions to a single play or two in the first preseason game.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
As for the running game…we can use DMAC’s explosiveness…especially given the passing game is going to struggle….Bush will be fine.
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Oh Oh BSJ! You just got on Dakota’s DMac schit list. Come to think of it, a lot of us are on there. LOL
August 16th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
I also thought Kelly played pretty well. Drew alot of double-teams, had some disruptions and tackles. Seymour was a little disappointing but also made some plays. This front seven could really be exciting.
Of course if they play really well it will only unearth our below average pass protection.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Hot diggidy damn! Season tickets just arrived. The backpack sucks balls.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I could be wrong, but it sees to me that working on passing game trumps “pounding the rock” in the preseason.
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ET: you mean the same old song & dance from last year?
no thanks man. last offseason with Cable’s Air Coryell camp was a disaster
preseason = practice
you practice how you play!
no more shirts & shells, learning intensive nonsense either. that spells SOFT football team
how much mentally tougher did we get anyways? still saw a bunch of flags against us in Dallas!
if guys get hurt, the next guy better be ready. thats why you need DEPTH on a football team, because injuries are a part of the game
August 16th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
You guy’s kill me. They sacked our QB once during that whole game. We were running the basic, plain, High School offense during that game. What happened? JC was sacked one time. Period!
August 16th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Fact some people dont like Al Davis, so if thet lose its all his fault, and if they when credit goes to everyone else.
Some of you dont like campbell, ( or any black qb )even though most have not watched a lot of him i am amazed at how much heat he is taking already on this blog. Give the man a chance to show what he can do. People may also have a skewed view of his abilties. He is mobile enough to make plays when things breakdown, but he is not a running qb. This guy is a pure pocket passer first, with a skill set that fits what we want to do. Play action and get the ball deep.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I could be wrong, but it sees to me that working on passing game trumps “pounding the rock” in the preseason.
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ET: you mean the same old song & dance from last year?
no thanks man. last offseason with Cable’s Air Coryell camp was a disaster
preseason = practice
you practice how you play!
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Obviously the coaches already knew what we found out, this team is much better at run blocking and running game. The passing game and pass protection needs a lot of work. Working on the passing game while installing a new offense is critical in the preseason.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Mistic, I know you worship the ground Al Davis walks on, and will even when he completes his 10th straight 10 loss season in a few years, but you need to get my point: The reason why other owners don’t run the type of man coverage Al does is because IT DOESN’T WORK. They’d like to. It sounds good in theory. But they know it won’t work, because it doesn’t. That’s why I asked you if you thought there were no other owners in the league who wanted a pressure defense with blanket coverage. They all want it. Just like we all want to win the lottery. But what does it say of some idiot who buys lotter tickets every single day, insisting he’s going to win? Is he a genius? Does he want to win “more badly” than the others? Of course he does. But the odds of winning are practically impossible, that’s why most people either don’t play, or only play recreationally. Most owners would love to run a pressure man defense that just blankets the offense. But in today’s NFL of complex offenses and offensive staffs that meticulously study game film to find weaknesses in opposing defenses, you have to be more diverse than that. It’s a chess game, has been for decades. Al still thinks it’s a game of pure brawn. At the pop warner and high school levels, in many cases, it still is. But in college and especially in the NFL, offensive and defensive strategy is a chess game, where the players are pawns. And Al’s approach to the game is to just knock the opposing pawns off of the table and of course you just can’t do that.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Fact some people dont like Al Davis, so if thet lose its all his fault, and if they when credit goes to everyone else.
Some of you dont like campbell, ( or any black qb )even though most have not watched a lot of him i am amazed at how much heat he is taking already on this blog. Give the man a chance to show what he can do. People may also have a skewed view of his abilties. He is mobile enough to make plays when things breakdown, but he is not a running qb. This guy is a pure pocket passer first, with a skill set that fits what we want to do. Play action and get the ball deep.
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Raiders Fans are some of the most fickle fans in the NFL by any means.
Remember when Gannon got injured?? people were practically cheering for the backup to come on because he “threw” the superbowl game away.
All it takes in the Nation is one bad game sometimes.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
even with that game etched in memory i’m still a gannon fan….some of our best years were with him at the helm.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Fact some people dont like Al Davis, so if thet lose its all his fault, and if they when credit goes to everyone else.
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Fact some people worship Al Davis, so if they win it’s all to his credit, and if they lose the blame goes to everyone else.
(See how easy this game is? We can play all day, buddy.)
August 16th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
even with that game etched in memory i’m still a gannon fan….some of our best years were with him at the helm.
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i watched that game before i was a raiders fan(keep in mind i am still young)
and i started being a fan about 2006, been one ever since
August 16th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
SouthDakotaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Raiders Fans are some of the most fickle fans in the NFL by any means.
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It’s to avoid blaming Al. The process of deflecting blame from Davis involves basically a merry go round of other players, coaches and staff to continuously blame instead.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
If Al Davis designed cars, and a Davis worshiper like Mistic bought one, and the brakes failed, he would blame himself for not checking the brakes, even though the car is brand new. Others would simply blame Al for cutting corners. That’s the difference between Davis worshipers and the sane people of the world.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
SouthDakotaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Raiders Fans are some of the most fickle fans in the NFL by any means.
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It’s to avoid blaming Al. The process of deflecting blame from Davis involves basically a merry go round of other players, coaches and staff to continuously blame instead.
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You know its weird, but i only semi disagree with you, even though im perplexed as to why you mentioned him. but i think it has more to do with our slogan; you know “Commitment to Excellence” on top of the glory of the Raiders of old. i think thats why we are a fickle people, because we remember past glories, and anything less than living up to that glory is unacceptable in our eyes.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
“commitment to excellence” goes further to prove my point, SDR. Would you say Al has been excellent in recent years? You’re talking about fickle fans who turn on Raiders in a heart beat if they start underperforming. This standard seems to apply to all Raiders other than Al. If it were the slogan involving excellence that was the foundation of Raider fans being so short sighted, Al Davis would have been thrown from the plank years ago, and most people would have canceled their season tickets. So we know it’s not that, don’t we?
August 16th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Mistic, I know you worship the ground Al Davis walks on, and will even when he completes his 10th straight 10 loss season in a few years, but you need to get my point: The reason why other owners don’t run the type of man coverage Al does is because IT DOESN’T WORK. They’d like to. It sounds good in theory. But they know it won’t work, because it doesn’t.
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Bra, your killing me! PRESS MAN 4-3 DOESNT WORK!?!?!?!?! Teams since 2000 that use the press man 4-3. New york giants in 2001, and won the big one a couple of years ago, and oakland 2003. That is three examples of Davis philosophy defense this decade. Your funny.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Al is just a horrible horrible GM. That is a fact jack. No other team, not even the lions, would allow a GM to continue in his job if he had set NFL records for futility like Al has.
Al do the right thing and FIRE YOURSELF!
August 16th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
# SouthDakotaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Remember when Gannon got injured??
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The old Siragusa flop, who doesn’t remember that?
Barrett Robbins meltdown was bigger than Gannon’s craptastic throwing that day, IMO.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Mistic, the Giants do not play as much man coverage as the Raiders do. No team in the league does. Rod Woodson said as much on ESPN a couple of years back. He’s a good enough source for me. I’ll defer to him, if it’s ok. And, the 2003 Raiders? Are you joking?
August 16th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Lakota, your point reminds me of the so many Davis worshipers who love to mock some of Al’s adversaries, like Gruden, being “out of the league”…as if Al would still be IN the league if he didn’t own a team. I would challenge any of these guys to name one team, since 1990, that would hire Al Davis in any football related capacity. Let’s see if any of them take the bait, for laughs.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Lakota, your point reminds me of the so many Davis worshipers who love to mock some of Al’s adversaries, like Gruden, being “out of the league”…as if Al would still be IN the league if he didn’t own a team. I would challenge any of these guys to name one team, since 1990, that would hire Al Davis in any football related capacity. Let’s see if any of them take the bait, for laughs.
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Bet you the lions would, cause nothing can be worse than the lions
August 16th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
The meltdown that would jinx us in Super Bowl 37 actually happened about a year earlier.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Actually, SDR, the Raiders have been worse than the Lions since the Raiders began their skid in 2003. So, it can get worse than the Lions, SDR. The Raiders.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
If Al Davis designed cars, and a Davis worshiper like Mistic bought one, and the brakes failed, he would blame himself for not checking the brakes, even though the car is brand new. Others would simply blame Al for cutting corners. That’s the difference between Davis worshipers and the sane people of the world.
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I have never absolved Davis when he screws something up, Davis is the Raiders! When they suck it is largely his fault! Im fine with that.
However they win it also largely because of Davis. I am a fan of Davis, because he is not afraid to let you know what he thinks. He is not afraid to mkae tough decisions, or pull the trigger on a deal he thinks will work.
He blame when they lose, and credit when they win.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Actually, SDR, the Raiders have been worse than the Lions since the Raiders began their skid in 2003. So, it can get worse than the Lions, SDR. The Raiders.
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i was semi-trolling if you couldnt tell, and im pretty sure i would take 5-11 or 4-12 or even 3-13 over 0-16
August 16th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
It was actually Al Davis’s bi-polar meltdown at the end of the 2001 season, where he gave our coach to Tampa Bay, which set up our devastating loss in Super Bowl 37.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Mistic, the Giants do not play as much man coverage as the Raiders do. No team in the league does. Rod Woodson said as much on ESPN a couple of years back. He’s a good enough source for me. I’ll defer to him, if it’s ok. And, the 2003 Raiders? Are you joking?
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I meant 2002 raiders, i cant see the key board im laughing so hard at your post my eyes are tearing.
i didnt say the giants were a carbon copy, but it is the same concept! Every d coordinator has his own way to call a game. But don’t tell me press man 4-3 doesn’t work, ridiculous.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
good point RMR….who does that?
August 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Crap!
Cable responds when asked about how Routt is doing…
“I have been very pleased with him in camp. I think there has been a change in Stan with his intensity and how he works at it, and it is like everybody, you want to see it carry over to the game but I have been very pleased with him thus far”.
Come on Tom, how many times can this dude get burned, miss a tackle, miss an assignment, allows a catch, etc???
Better yet, come on Stan!! You’ve got all of this physical ability but you run around like you have no anticipation at all. Make a frickin play!! And by play I mean make a simple tackle, or knock down a poorly thrown ball, or cover somebody!!
OK, I’m better now.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
mistic1 Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
I have never absolved Davis when he screws something up
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Fair enough.
So who do you blame for screwing up the team we had when Gruden and Gannon were here?
August 16th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Mistic, first off, the 2002 Raiders were an offensive team. They were not a defensive team. Whatever complimentary defensive stats they had that year were due to an offense that was nearly unstoppable for most of the season. Noting Rod Woodson’s huge interception in the Denver game, I’d still submit that we did not in ONE GAME in 2002 because of our defense. Woodson’s pick was the spark that ignited a reawakening of our offense.
Back to the Giants, and Woodson, for this matter. It was Rod Woodson who said on ESPN a couple of years ago that NOBODY in the NFL runs man as much as the Raiders do. Should I believe you over him, and why?
August 16th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
# Drexl Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
# SouthDakotaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Remember when Gannon got injured??
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The old Siragusa flop, who doesn’t remember that?
Barrett Robbins meltdown was bigger than Gannon’s craptastic throwing that day, IMO.
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You are 100% correct. Adam Tru, Robbins back-up was worse than Satele. IMO, it was Robbins absence that lost us the SB. HE WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO THE O-LINE PLAY. This points out the importance of the center position. Gannon was getting rushed and sacked all day because the middle of the O-line was a turnstyle – like it is right now.
Gannon was one of our best all-time QB’s even though he didn’t win the SB. Had he not been hurt, he would have led us back to the trophy. It’s too bad he’s on he outs with the Raider management. He had a work ethic that no other QB could equal. I do miss Gannon. Maybe JCampbell can become our next Gannon.
August 16th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Great post #365 Mystic1
Campbell impressed me, now I just want to see him get better and better. For the first time out I have zero complaints about anyone on offense including the Oline. I didn’t expect a polished passing game by any means.
I think I’m really going to like Jason Campbell he’s kind of like Gannon with a deep ball. So we’ll see what happens.
August 16th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Great reference to Barret Robbins. No doubt if Barret hadn’t taken the wrong turn off the I-5 that landed him in a Tijuana strip joint, the Raiders would’ve won.
He was an all-pro center. However, the Raiders are going to need more than another Barret.
Something has to be done about that damn Raider playbook, if there is anything telling about a meaningless first exhibition game is that the more things change the more they look the same.
August 16th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
# RaiderRich510 Says:
August 15th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Al is gonna make a move soon …I can smell it!
Let’s hope it’s off this mortal coil.
7-9 folks. That what we’re looking at. Offense is third rate at best.
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