Notes and quotes from Tuesday’s P.M. practice
By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 17th, 2010 at 7:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
– Backup quarterback Charlie Frye on Wednesday will undergo a surgical procedure to repair an unspecified injury in his right wrist, coach Tom Cable said.
Frye hurt his wrist Aug. 5 and hasn’t practiced since. Cable said he isn’t sure how long Frye will be out of action.
Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski have been getting increased reps during Frye’s absence. Boller even received a great deal of time with the second-team offense Tuesday.
Don’t make too much out of that, though, Cable warned.
“Bruce isn’t back (from pectoral surgery) all the way yet,” Cable said Tuesday. “We’re bringing him back. That’s really more the issue than anything.”
Still, Boller looked sharp, including back-to-back scoring strikes to tight end Zach Miller.
– Undrafted free agent Alex Daniels made it in the latest issue of Sports Illustrated for his quote about being willing to block for President Obama if that’s what it takes to make the Raiders roster.
Apparently, things are going well, for more than S.I. are taking notice.
On Tuesday, Daniels received a one-on-one audience with managing general partner Al Davis for several minutes after practice.
This came a few minutes after coach Tom Cable singled him out as the one undrafted free agent who has caught his eye the first three weeks of training camp.
“There’s been some guys who have shown up,” Cable said. “I think about guys like Alex Daniels and his move to fullback. He’s learning it, figuring it out. Physically, he looks to have all the tools to be able to maybe help us there. I think that’s the guy that probably stands out in my mind as much as anybody right now.”
Cable said Daniels will receive his first playing time in an NFL game Saturday night against the Chicago Bears.
– Wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey (rest) and Chaz Schilens (foot), running back Darren McFadden (hamstring) and cornerback Chris Johnson (undisclosed, though he came up lame in practice Monday) missed the lone practice.
– McFadden was spotted jogging around the two practice fields while his teammates practiced. Afterward, McFadden said he is making progress toward a return to the field, though he isn’t able to display the burst he is known for.
“At this point it’s something I just need to take care of just so I don’t have to deal with it all season,” McFadden said. “So, I’d rather get it healthy now and then it won’t bother me all season.”
As for this Saturday night’s game against the Chicago Bears, McFadden said he hasn’t ruled it out just yet.
“Well, right now, we’re just playing it day by day until I feel like I get the chance where I can open all the way up and then try to see what I can do,” McFadden said.
– Davis attended a practice for the fifth time since training camp practices started July 29. He watched from a golf cart parked between the two fields.
Afterward, Davis left the field as a passenger in the cart. A handful of fans screamed Davis’ name as if they were seeing one of the Beatles stroll past their front yard. Davis acknowledged the love with a slight wave of his right hand.
– This camp has been relatively devoid of fisticuffs. One of the few altercations occurred Tuesday during a one-on-one pass-blocking drill between center Samson Satele and defensive tackle William Joseph.
Satele blocked Joseph to the ground with both arms and then delivered a knockout blow as Joseph attempted to get to his feet. From there, it was on.
Joseph started swinging at Satele once he got to his feet, and Satele responded in kind as numerous offensive and defensive linemen intervened to calm down the situation.
– Wide receiver Louis Murphy said he has made it a point to keep his emotions in check this year, something he struggled doing as a rookie last year.
On Tuesday, Murphy struggled with a case of the dropsies that he typically avoids. At one point, he slammed his helmet against a water cooler, sat down and contemplated his not-so-good day.
Quarterback Jason Campbell and tight end Zach Miller walker over and talked things out with Murphy. On the bright side, Murphy made a nice catch of a deep pass over cornerback Stanford Routt.
– One particularly clueless fan shouted at a player as he exited the locker room and headed for the team hotel. “Charlie Frye!”
“Nope, I’m Kyle Boller,” Boller said, as he laughed.
For the record, there’s no resemblance between Boller and Frye other than the fact they both play quarterback. Boller should have told the fan to buy a program that features mug shots of all the players.
Kudos to Boller for taking it in stride and going over to sign autographs anyway.
– Rookie Jared Veldheer worked at left offensive tackle with the second-team offense for most of practice, while Chris Morris handled the center duties.
Veldheer is alternating between offensive tackle and center as a means of making himself more versatile and therefore more valuable to the Raiders as a backup.
Cable is adamant that his offensive linemen be able to play more than one position once the regular season starts because only two or three extra offensive linemen are activated for a game.
– Running back Rock Cartwright beat strong safety Tyvon Branch on a corner route for a 30-yard touchdown from quarterback Jason Campbell. Yet another example of Cartwright’s versatility as a runner, receiver and kick returner. It’s that versatility that is catching the eyes of his coaches and making him a strong candidate to make the roster as a backup to McFadden and Michael Bush.
– Cable said he won’t make determinations on playing time and such for the Bears game until later this week. However, he offered this snipped about one area he expects to see improvement.
“I am encouraged (by the protection), but as we talked about after the game, we need to get going a little quicker and sustain some drives,” Cable said. “Third down was really the biggest negative out of that football game. There was some good things in terms of protection. I thought in the second half running the ball with some efficiency. But I’d like to see us get started just a little bit quicker.”
– For as good as cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha has been the past three seasons, in particular, he has room to get even better, Cable said.
“Just being more complete,” Cable said of what Asomugha needs to work on. “I know that’s where he’s chasing, is to try to be complete and try to be the best. It takes doing what he’s doing. He kind of refocuses himself, and don’t be afraid to find your weaknesses. You know them before anybody else does. Don’t before to find them and work at it. And I think that’s what sets him apart. I think he’s able to do that every year.”
As for what sets apart Asomugha from most every other cornerback not named Darrelle Revis, Cable said: “Just the fact that he’s intelligent. He’s not afraid to say, ‘This is something I need to get better at.’ He doesn’t feel like he’s arrived or any of that stuff. He continues to thirst to be good, to be as good as he can be.”
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August 17th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Be nice to see just one report without DHB stating how he wants to “get healed now, so won’t have anymore problems”
August 17th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Sounds like D-Mac is preparing us for another disappointing season.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
would someone please give mcskinny a glass of milk from time to time already? soon, he’s going to be out with a bruised areola or something.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RaiderDell,
I don’t think any of critiques are mean spirited. THese are observations of Raider fans. Do you think we all sit here wanting these guys to fail.
That’s what Priesttj and his gang think.
Chaz Shilens is any injury risk situation
Satele and Carlisle have been messing up
Tommy Kelly admitted in the paper yesterday that last year was a bad year and he was out of shape
JaDavis was on the Purple Drank and skipped meetings and was out of shape
DHB has not demonstrated that he is a serviceable, let alone, elite receiver at the NFL level after 12 starts and 5 preseason games
DMAC has missed time with injury and hasn’t put up the numbers.
Those are all facts and the Raiders have done little SO FAR to suggest much improvement (although J. Campbell & Hue Jackson is a clear upgrade)
Critiques are justified.
The offense looked stale last week and we all have a right to be concerned about that. Even if preseaso week 1
August 17th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
“– Wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey (rest) and Chaz Schilens (foot), running back Darren McFadden (hamstring) and cornerback Chris Johnson (undisclosed, though he came up lame in practice Monday) missed the lone practice.”
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Schilens and DMAC…having them will make a big difference in this offense
August 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Richochet Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
O line and WR’s need to play at least a half against Chi.
Chi and 49er game are the two games to see what ya have.
After that a week of rest and the season is upon us…
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Yup, that sums it up.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Offense was very stale.
Bruce should provide a much needed jolt this weekend, but hopefully he is just continuing on from what the first teamers do in the first half.
The last thing I need to see is another 3-4 drives with the ones that don’t produce any or many points, and Bruce tossing a TD.
You guys won’t hear the end of it, lol!!!
August 17th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
SNB
There are others, who have no patience for some players. I understand your right to critique, as well as others. In the spirit of instant gratification, some players develop slower than others.
We have had 7 losing seasons in a row, and it has been down right frustrating, to wait for players, to meet their potential, as advertised when drafted out of college.
Some players are first year or second year, does that mean their a bust. Sometimes it’s just maturity and being in the right system to excel.
Think about it, most first year and second year players are 21, 22, and just left college. They have been pampered and told how great they are, then all of a sudden their expected to play a large role in the NFL. Not easy.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Offense was very stale.
Bruce should provide a much needed jolt this weekend, but hopefully he is just continuing on from what the first teamers do in the first half.
The last thing I need to see is another 3-4 drives with the ones that don’t produce any or many points, and Bruce tossing a TD.
You guys won’t hear the end of it, lol!!!
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Ha, ha, ha my friend.
Hopefully Gradkowski has been working on his accuracy. because those receiver ain’t getting open brotha
August 17th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
trade dmac n’ dhb for a sack of tropic thunder!
August 17th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
RaiderDell,
Here’s my frustration with all of this.
We seem to be drafting like we are the New England Patriots and have such a deep team to be able to afford these long development times.
We should be using 1st & 2nd round picks on guys that are more game ready.
Like McClain appears to be….or even Murphy and Branch.
Our 1st & 2nd round picks are performing more like 6th and 7th round picks and a few of the late picks are performing more like top end picks.
Don’t get me started on the free agents and those getting huge contracts.
The RAiders will never get out of this hole until its players start playing closer to expectation.
In the case of DMAC, DHB, Howard, Huff, Mitchell….we need them to just get to somewhere close to average…nevermind good or great….Huff is getting a little closer…but still has a ways to go
August 17th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
JFB,
Has Gradkowski even thrown a pass yet????
August 17th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
SNB
Well said. You are like my dad, regarding the old analogy “the glass is half full” That is a compliment as he spoke, like you write your comments in this blog.
You should of ben around my dad during the Mark Wilson era, many living room trinkets were broken.
On the other hand you have Priest, who sees high expectations or greatness in some players, not all. Yet, he is closer to always hoping the better.
Greatness does not come easy, to any athlete.
Some will never meet their potential.
Let me ask this question of you. I’m a father of a son who attented many USA coaches clinics. The same technique and information was given to each kid, yet why did some perform the technique drill well and others didn’t even understand the drill.
All stood there, saw the demonstration and yet some were clueless.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
The starting WRs will be DHb and Murphy. JLH in the slot. Schilens or Ford will be the #4 and Nick Miller will be #6.
Watkins gets gashed along with Figurs and Bodiford.
August 17th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Looks like the raiders have zeroed in on Daniels at fullback.
The progress is encouraging. That would be real nice to have lead fullback, weighing 275 lbs hammering at lineman and linebackers.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RBs: DMac, Bush, Cartright,
One of these guys (Tonga, Daniels, Lawton, that converted receiver can’t call his name) will get injured and waived leaving the other three to make the team.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
BTW, the Saints might be the team to take T Howard off our hands. They are having a hard time replacing Scott Fugita at strong side linebacker. Shanle has been moved over from the weakside to strong side and former un-drafted free agent Jonathan Casillas was plugged into the weakside. I know Howard is a weakside guy but he would solidify that spot so the Saints can possibly do strong side by committee…In return for Howard, the Saints sure do have a slew of O-Linemen down here.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Wow, my friends, I am impressed by the knowledge, insight and civility of the posts on this string. Sometimes it is so hard to slog thru the nonsense in here. Nice going, seriously.
Anyway SNB: re #4, I’m in total agreement with every point.
Although I dismiss the haters, we have earned the right to critically discuss what we see in our team. But the undercurrent of a hopeful improvement in here is noticeable. Can’t wait for Saturday.
GODSPEED MY BELOVED RAIDERS!
August 17th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEERRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!!
August 17th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
WOOT! BTW, its Cutler, former Donk. I forsee him on his back after Houston and ShoNasty have had their way with him
August 17th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Kudos to Steve Corkran. Jerry has been doing great work this preseason and it’s nice that there’s no dropoff when he’s obligated to be somewhere else.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Agreed Black Beard
August 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
You can’t really take too much from the lst preseason game, but the Raider defensive line looks much improved. The secondary played well. The LB corp seemed to fill much better than before. The offense: that is a different story. Or better yet, maybe the same old story we have seen the last five years here.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Hamstrings are a difficult thing to heal. It can take months if it is bad. McFadden is doing the right thing. Preseason means nothing…he is around to review plays. Give him a couple more weeks.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Richardson having knee surgery would have been a real problem last year. This year….eh.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Problem with McFadden is if you breathe on him, he breaks.
August 17th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
If Chaz & McFadden miss most of Camp, the Raiders Offense is going to be behind come the Opener. Looking for an identity the first part of the season.
August 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
G’nite Raider fans
August 17th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
21. Word Teach!
August 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Offense was very stale.
Bruce should provide a much needed jolt this weekend, but hopefully he is just continuing on from what the first teamers do in the first half.
The last thing I need to see is another 3-4 drives with the ones that don’t produce any or many points, and Bruce tossing a TD.
You guys won’t hear the end of it, lol!!!
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Yeah but…“Bruce isn’t back (from pectoral surgery) all the way yet,” Cable said Tuesday. “We’re bringing him back. That’s really more the issue than anything.”
Is Bruce even going to play Saturday? It could be more of the Kyle Boller show.
Wonder if we see any Colt?
Want to see Veldheer at center and I’m telling you, B.Campbell had his moments in Dallas against 2nds and 3rds.
Once he got ahold of guys, they were done.
Still needs TONS of work on cut blocks though.
He read and helped chip on a delayed blitz though and that was niiiice indeed…
August 17th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
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August 17th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
SnB
Listen man this isn’t disneyland and you’re not 5 yeas old and there is no tooth fairy. This is real life and the real world and in the real wold playes are players wether you are the Pat’s or the Detroit Lions. The players drafted are all the same for everyone. That’s why every team has players that don’t pan out and some that do. Yu can’t draft players that have short development curves no more than you can have a child that’s already grown. This is how it is DONE…….get it. everyone goes through the same film looking for the best players they can find who can help them as quickly as possible.
To think that the Raiders draft like they are some SB champ and not a team that’s trying to get better as quick as possible is as naive a perspective as I have ever read. YOU need a project son something that occupies your time a little better until they start winning because you come with some of the asinine crap I’ve ever heard of.
August 17th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
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August 17th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
crister Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
would someone please give mcskinny a glass of milk from time to time already? soon, he’s going to be out with a bruised areola or something.
Best post….all day! “bruised areola” Ha Ha…great stuff.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
I don’t care why DMAC can’t play, pulled this….strained that….bruised one of those things…..tweaked earlobe. He has never been healthy. I don’t care how much potential you have or what you did in college. You’ve been off for SIX MONTHS! Your body is your tool. Your body is what you use to make a living, a damn good living. Hire a personal trainer, hire a nutritionist, hire a chef. Hell, hire a holistic healer! But Damn man, Do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself and prepare for your job. Then do your job. Come on, man.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Henderson, Gallery, Veldheer, BCampbell, Walker – Starting O-line at Tennessee. Mark it down.
Cable will come to his senses by the 1st game of the season. Satele & Carlisle are toast. Morris is no longer on the squad. You play what you have – the best candidates for the positions.
In today’s game we don’t have the luxury of letting talented rookies sit on the pine while over-the-hillers and never-wases are playing and contributing to losses.
If we are meant to lose, let it be with our best players playing. They can learn on the job.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
JB, You’re right, play the best players. And the same for the running backs, Bush should be the workhorse, Rock Cartwright should be the back up and Mcfadden can be a slot receiver until he has to sit down because he has a charlie horse.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Sounds ;like a game plan to me teeth. I’d like to see some Bennett too. I think he still has gas in the tank. I guess we’ll see more in Chicago. Bush, while the heir apparent, still has to prove his worth too. Much like DMac, he hasn’t done all that much to shout about either. They are both players with a lot of potential. Now it the time to switch from potential to results. That can’t happen unless Cable fixes the O-Line as I suggested.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
JB
If you were a coach would you do anay different with your neck on the line. You have nothing but a fans interets and yet you would play the best players what in gods’ name makes you think a coach would do different.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
SnB
Listen man this isn’t disneyland and you’re not 5 yeas old and there is no tooth fairy. This is real life and the real world and in the real wold playes are players wether you are the Pat’s or the Detroit Lions.
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If that were true, the Pat’s and Lions would be performing similarly, no?
August 17th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
JB
Michael Bush’s NFL Career avg is 4.6
He’s been healthy too.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
JB
If you were a coach would you do anay different with your neck on the line. You have nothing but a fans interest and yet you would play the best players what in gods’ name makes you think a coach would do different.
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I’m suggesting that Cable will come to the conclusion I suggested because I believe his neck IS on the line. He has to know that Satele & Morris are crap and Carlisle just no longer has it. AD got him the talent, BCampbell & Veldheer and he’d be a fool not to use them. If he’s going to lose, do it with the new talent. AD would be out of line criticizing him for using what he had available. Train them as they learn. At least they can block and not get run over. Don’t risk JCampbell’s health on three confirmed losers.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Bush seems get stronger after about 12 carries too, but he needs to be in better shape than he has been. I still feel he’s earned the right to play ahead of DMac. I can’t understand why McFadden isn’t in better shape…somethings always “not right” with him.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
JB
Michael Bush’s NFL Career avg is 4.6
He’s been healthy too.
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Those numbers are potential indicators. He’s never been the #1 back and has never had a decent O-line in front of him. To be the guy we all think he can be, he needs to be consistent and demonstrate he’s not a flash in the pan. I think he was the best 4th round pick we’ve had in eons. He could be the steal of the century. Let’s just hope he turns into the superstar RB we all think he may be.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
JB
You say M bush needs to be consistent, bruh, that’s why I posted his career numbers, 4.6ypc.
He rarely get’s more than 9-10 carries per game. If anybody needs to be consistent, it’s a consistent approach to the running game by management.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Just shows how ignorant you are KK, all player personnell depts. are different as are all corporations some are successful some not. The Detroit Lions have been ran very badly for years. What keeps them in business is the NFL revenue sharing. Whe they get beter leadership you’ll see them do better when they don’t they wont.
Most fans think exactly as you do that things are the same in every NFL front office well far from it. Since Bill Walsh worked his amgic the 49ers have a below average team when he ran it they were the envy of the NFL.
The same is true on every team. It stats at the top until Bill Belichik leaves I expect the Pat’s to do well at least with Tom Brady. Once he steps down it may change.
Everybody thought the Raiders needed a GM to get even the repect they’re getting now around the league well the same GM is still there. When he’s gone it could be bad for a lot longer than 7 seasons.
Players are just players some will dvelope some wont there is no perefct science fo the draft it is widely known as the biggest crap shoot in business history.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Michael Bush
7.0 carries per game
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BushMi00.htm
August 17th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
JB
You say M bush needs to be consistent, bruh, that’s why I posted his career numbers, 4.6ypc.
He rarely get’s more than 9-10 carries per game. If anybody needs to be consistent, it’s a consistent approach to the running game by management.
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I understand what you are saying and actually agree. What I was saying was that we can only hope he will do equally YPC-wise or better when getting more touches with a hopefully better line. If he can consistently deliver when given the opportunity, good things will result. It will all be dependent on the quality of the O-line. Games are won in the pits. Great runners aren’t successful consistently unless they have a good line in front of them.
August 17th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
JB
The opinion that Satele is crap is yours and some fans. Satele is a very decent C nothing special but he does at times play well. When He’s not in the Morris seems to struggle. But just because YOU think someone sucks may not be what the coaches think. He sees Satele everyday YOU don’t. I’ve watched Satele very closely and and I think he’s a quality starter.
Sometimes I think you guy’s get an opinion based on a few snaps and then assume the player can’t get better. Well I think he has…..
August 17th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Well let’s hope he can do the same with more carries. 7 carries per game won’t do it.
When’s the last Raider RB to avg 20+ carries per game??????
Maybe Hue Jackson will bring that, if allowed.
August 17th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
The Raiders Leading rusher last year averaged 7.0 carries per game/hello?
August 17th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Priest, on Satele we totally disagree. He’s who we got for Jake Grove. Grove was nothing to write home about but we got the short end of that deal. Satele is NOT an NFL quality, even mediocre quality center. He gets blown off the ball with little effort. The center position is the key to a successful O-line. We will, IMO, not have a decent running game nor passing threat with him in there. I don’t understand why you are so against starting your much stronger rookie. If you are saying Satele has gone from really crappy to just crappy, well, that just doesn’t get it done. He needs to go & I predict that by our 1st season game Cable will have put Veldheer in there as a starter. Cable is NOT going to bet his career on Satele. If he does, he’s dumber than many think. I’m not one of those that’s why I think he’ll go to the rookies.He doesn’t need another Kwame episode.
August 17th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
The last time a Raider Back averaged 20 carries per game was Marcus Allen in 1985!!!!!!
August 17th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Not an NFL quality C and what do you base that on. You and soem friends, what NFL personnel have you poled to come to that conclusion. And who says the rookie is much stonger, I say he’s the flavor of the month in here with you and your cronies.
AS son as YOU and your cronies put together an NFL Oline that plays great I’m going to listen to someone who actually does fo a living instead of cming here spouting off about something you know very little about.
Thanks for listening…
August 17th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Al: Hey Cable guy
TC: Yeah boss
Al: What’s that Satelite guy doing in there. He’s like a NY turnstyle. He’s getting us killed.
TC: Well, I’ve been working with ‘em
Al: So?
TC: He’s the best vet we’ve got that can snap.
Al: So?
TC: He’ll come around.
Al: When?
TC: Sooner than later I’d say.
Al: What about those new kids I got you? You know “The Manster” and he giant kid.
TC: Yeah but they are rooks at NFL line play.
Al: Yeah, but so are you at HC and your in the game
TC: What do you want me to do Boss?
Al: Just win baby but you better fix that guy & you better fix that guard slot too.
TC: I’ll do whatever you want Boss. I’ll talk to the Satelite guy. I’ll tell him my ass is on the line.
Al: You bet your ass is on the line. Either you fix it now or I’ll fix you. Anyone seen whatshisname Huey around?
August 17th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Satele had a pretty poor year last year according to the Pro-Football-Reference rating system.
Average Value of 4
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SateSa20.htm
August 17th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Boy you guy’s are too much…..All of a sudden Veldheer a probowl C…..lol he hasn’t even seen Haloti Ngata but he’s ready to dominate him.
I hope they start him against Niners and let him get his butt handed to him so guy’s can get a clue.
Fans are some wierd animals.
August 17th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
I hope they start him against Niners and let him get his butt handed to him so guy’s can get a clue??
Uh, that’s a crap thing to say. I would not hope for any of our players to have their asses handed to them just to shut up the fine gentlemen of this blog.
Come on Priest, gotta do better than that man!
August 17th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Priest, We can check back on this center issue in a couple of weeks to see who’s right. Right now, we just agree to disagree.
Ultimately our opinions and suggestions are in the best perceived interest of the team. Isn’t that what fans do? You say Satele I say Veldheer. Time will tell. I’ll still be here and I’m sure you will be too. We can revisit this issue down the road a piece.
What’s your take on Carlisle? To play or NOT to play?
August 17th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I’m not a huge Carlisle fan, IMO he is more of a technician than a force. He just knows this system so well it’s had to stick a young guy in there right away and get the same effectiveness. He doesn’t make mistakes or penalties and he is assigment sound it’s just that he’s not my cup of tea. I like OG’s that are more physically dominant. Now Bruce Campbell has a chance to be that type of player if he watches CC and learns the nuances of the position he could be great. But he isn’t even close to ready yet. I saw that in the Dallas game he just has a long way to go technigue wise. Right now is just a big physical guy but you cannot get by on that at this level.
So IMO the way they have the Oline set up is the way they have to do it. Because of the continuity and cohesion but I’m very glad we drafted BC he is exactly what I would like to have at RG. I actually think he could eventually be better OG than Gallery.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Gallery should be a Pro bowl candidate this year if he stays healthy. I agree that the future BCampbell will be as successful. That was a great pick in the 4th round. Draftwise, we seem to do very well in the 4th round this last number of years.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Yeah I agree 4th rnd has been good…
August 18th, 2010 at 1:08 am
i think its hilarious that we got bruce campbell in the 4th rd. so many so called experts pegged him to be our 1st round pick. Then we go and grab him in the 4th.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:24 am
We did draft Two Impact players in the first round this year in both Mr. McClain & Mr. Houston.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:31 am
Injuries starting to show how not deep we are in certain positions
we need to keep Mr. Seymour at DT, even while Mr. Richardson is unable to play.
A Defensive front consisting of DE Houston, DT Kelly DT Seymour DE backup is still our best combination
We can move Richard to DE when we have Henderson playing NT with Mr. Houston playing other DE.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Did I just read that correctly, Mr. Routt is to make over 3 million dollars this season?
August 18th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Im feeling how Seymour was first to congratulate Boyd…he continues to show maximum leadership to this young team…
even 7th round pick S.Brown looked good
goodbye Luke Lawton tut tut tut
Veldheer will make C.Morris unemployed
#77 baller
August 18th, 2010 at 2:54 am
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August 18th, 2010 at 4:28 am
I am beginning to think that D-Mac injured himself doing all that running for the “award winning” commercial he did during the offseason for the NFL Network last year. I think that’s the most running he’s done since he’s been with the team, and I guess his body just wasn’t used to it!
August 18th, 2010 at 4:50 am
Why is Luke Lawton still on the team?
August 18th, 2010 at 5:56 am
best wishes and a speedy recovery for Charlie & J-Rich!
August 18th, 2010 at 6:01 am
still taking it slow:
Bruce Gradkowski
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Chaz Schilens
Darren McFadden
Chris Johnson
wouldn’t be surprised if these guys are on the shelf, inactive for Saturday’s game
just means more playing time & opportunity for guys like Boller, Brennan, Bennett, Cartwright, Ford, Watkins, Miller, W McFadden & Ware
Campbell, Bush, Murphy, Higgins & Routt will be starting
August 18th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Top of the morning to ya, Rockstar, Tbone!!!
August 18th, 2010 at 6:05 am
This camp has been relatively devoid of fisticuffs. One of the few altercations occurred Tuesday during a one-on-one pass-blocking drill between center Samson Satele and defensive tackle William Joseph.
Satele blocked Joseph to the ground with both arms and then delivered a knockout blow as Joseph attempted to get to his feet. From there, it was on.
Joseph started swinging at Satele once he got to his feet, and Satele responded in kind as numerous offensive and defensive linemen intervened to calm down the situation.
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why couldn’t Samson do this to Junior Siavii last week ???
August 18th, 2010 at 6:07 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,ROCKSTAR,HWNRDR..
August 18th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Whats up Dirt Lot?!
I think its time to get the coffee brewing!!! Gabby?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:09 am
good morning AM crew!
Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, Tbone …
sounds like we have ourselves a BLOCKING fullback ???
that either pushes Marcel Reece to 2nd string or off the roster. Guess it depends what the staff thinks of Lawton
Must be somewhat pleased with him to slap a tender on him, suspension and all
August 18th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Tonga & Moline = camp fodder?
If D-Linemen Cooper, Gunheim, Joseph & Heard are all fighting for the last spot on the 53 man roster, who do you give it to?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:15 am
That would be a hard one there Rockstar…Cooper has been here before, the rest are average at best…although Gunheim had some disruptedness last year (right?)…correct me if I am wrong bt didn’t Gunheim have a sack last year?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:18 am
AT LEAST 2 MORE PRE-SEASON GAMES SEEING HOW PEOPLE WORK OUT B4 I MAKE MY CALL ON THAT ROCKSTAR.THINGS R OK HWNRDR,U ?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Hwnrdr: if i’m not mistaken, Gunheim has been activated off the practice squad to the actual roster the past 2 seasons, for the remaining game or two (injuries)
this may be his last year of PS eligibility – same with Marcel Reece
August 18th, 2010 at 6:22 am
a few semi-pro bloggers have said that William Joseph shows up on film and looks like a disruptive force at times. might be an asset to the DT rotation, but you already have Seymour, Kelly, Henderson & Bryant there … plus it looks like Samson Satele made him his (bleep)
August 18th, 2010 at 6:29 am
If Satele made someone his (bleep) that (bleep) needs to find a new job with another team!
August 18th, 2010 at 6:35 am
needs to find a new job with another team!
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show Willie Jo the door?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:40 am
I’m good Dirt Lot!!! Can’t wait to see tailgating action next Saturday!!!
Rockstar: Hmmm…never knew he was on the practice squad…makes sense why I never hear his name all year!
bcz24 Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 6:29 am
If Satele made someone his (bleep) that (bleep) needs to find a new job with another team!
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LOL…Joseph probably threatned to eat Satele’s palusami and corned beef!!! Hahaha!
August 18th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Joseph probably threatned to eat Satele’s palusami and corned beef!!!
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Cable should do that too then, if thats what it takes to motivate the guy!
fear of push-ups (more work) apparently motivates Mario Henderson
August 18th, 2010 at 6:47 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Joseph probably threatned to eat Satele’s palusami and corned beef!!!
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Cable should do that too then, if thats what it takes to motivate the guy!
fear of push-ups (more work) apparently motivates Mario Henderson
Cable will probaby eat it…not threaten him to do so…LOL
Have you guys ever had that before?
Check it out…
http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/samoan-palusami/Detail.aspx
August 18th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Hwnrdr:
never had that before.
tried to click the link, but work blocks the site (not sure why?)
do you guys think the Raiders will keep Swayze Waters on the roster, just to slap John Henderson before games ???
August 18th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Sounds like a hell of way to ruin some perfectly good corned beef!
August 18th, 2010 at 7:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 6:01 am
still taking it slow:
Bruce Gradkowski
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Chaz Schilens
Darren McFadden
Chris Johnson
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Bruce will play the second quarter, I think Chaz will get a handful of snaps, DHB and CJ might not make a go of it, and Darren will definately not play.
August 18th, 2010 at 7:02 am
bcz24 Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Sounds like a hell of way to ruin some perfectly good corned beef!
Hey…I’m sure Satele loves it!!! And if you take someones palusami…oh boy…
August 18th, 2010 at 7:02 am
NFLN is playing the replay at 9pm on Sunday of Saturday’s game.
Not going to watch it on the internet, did anyone try a sports bar and see if that had different feeds?
Either that, or it is going to be a blogging and AM radio game for me.
August 18th, 2010 at 7:05 am
What tine is the game anyways, JFB? Anyone?
August 18th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Where on the internet are the games shown?
August 18th, 2010 at 7:24 am
5:30 pm PST
Sirius 130, 157
August 18th, 2010 at 7:30 am
I dont want to sit in my car all night and listen to it! LOL…
August 18th, 2010 at 7:32 am
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
???
Raider75 has the site.
might be Justin TV or something
August 18th, 2010 at 7:46 am
I used it for the Dallas game and it looked pretty good. I watched it all night on the PC and blogged on the laptop. It can stop and take some time to load but other then that it worked well.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 7:32 am
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
???
Raider75 has the site.
might be Justin TV or someth
August 18th, 2010 at 7:49 am
DMAC and Chaz two of our key players but for health concerns you can’t count on them. The scouts were right when they said that DMAC had a durability issue and problems breaking tackles. Man we should have listened.
Looking through the rear view mirror, to think we could have had Chris Johnson instead of McMuffin really makes me want to puke!
August 18th, 2010 at 7:49 am
“He continues to thirst to be good”
Nice quote….. Cable is capable of an intellegent response….
August 18th, 2010 at 8:37 am
What up Nation?
August 18th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Okay NOW I want to know who is on the free agent wire at wideout. Chaz needs to get his glass slipper shined.
McFumble needs a paycut. Productive RBs aren’t that hard to find.
Hope Campbell finds someone to throw to and get some timing and trust in. Maybe Nick Miller….hahahaha
August 18th, 2010 at 8:48 am
More like Z. Miller Lofty…..
It sounds like Samson is real frustrated after the criticism he has suffered since Dallas, I hope it motivates him to improve – not just make him lose his cool.
Why not sign Mawae?
August 18th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Asomugha regarding Routt: “If he doesn’t have it by now, it’s like, ‘What’s going on?”
-Good question. I’m rootin’ for CJ37.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Yeah Zach is a stud and JC likes his TEs but we are going to need some WR(s) to step up. Can’t throw to the middle too often or they pinch and pick.
Maybe we can trade McFumble for a WR. Hes gotta do suptin for us…
August 18th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Buenos Dias Raider Nation!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I predict Louis Murphy (18) to be improved after a decent rookie season. I still think he was robbed on a few of those “drops” last year. It’s funny how the Dallas announcers kept calling him Watkins – shows how much they know.
If he is improved at all, he may be our best hope at WR this year. Louis Murphy – Y’all better recognize!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Hola Ray…
August 18th, 2010 at 9:06 am
bcz24, try watching it on
p2p4u.net or
justintv and
veetle.com
that might help!
Worked for me last season.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:06 am
All Nnamdi needs to work at is being adept at playing both sides of the field, covering the slot and sticking on the opponent’s best receiver. It’s the Raiders fault for not making this a reality sooner. Just think how much better Nnam would be if he were doing this for the last two years….now he has to play catch up.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Definitely need the WRs to step up. I think Chaz, JLH, and Murphy all playing at the same time with Zach Miller will be just fine. Whatever we get from DHB will be gravy, IMO.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Nnamdi isn’t playing catch up…. no matter where he lines up he is going to be ignored.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Nick Miller in the slot a la Wes Welker….with the occasional deep route mixed in there. The kid has got grit.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:10 am
What up Big Ted! Agree…Louis is our guy! Cant leave it to Chaz or Dhb, they have not proved anything!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:12 am
bcz24, i was referring to the nuances of playing the left side as opposed to strictly the right…playing the slot entails differences as well.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:14 am
McToothpick = DHB
Wont be able to last all season without getting injured!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:16 am
DHB needs to be targeted more than once or twice. Force him to make plays…that’s what pre-season is for.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:17 am
I think Chaz, JLH, and Murphy all playing at the same time with Zach Miller will be just fine. Whatever we get from DHB will be gravy
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yeah. Jwigg to the rescue!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:21 am
good grief. you fellas are down in the dumps today
dust yourself off men!
Frye & Richardson have the only injuries that require surgery at this point and they’re just considered depth. Satele seems fired up and if he can’t get the job done, welcome Morris or Veldheer to replace him …
Campbell & Loper should be pushing Carlisle
I don’t think Barnes, Pears or Veldheer are pushing big Langston at RT, but he’s got a few preseason games to get the bugs out – dude was playing guard last year and ended the season on IR, remember?
August 18th, 2010 at 9:22 am
captain….how can he, he’ injured!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:23 am
I’m still quietly holding hopes for DHB. 1 preseason game is not enough for me to write the guy off this season. Ochocinco also failed to make a catch in the first preseason game.
DHB is a big target, and conditioning doesn’t seem to be a problem with him. He just needs the Stick-Um. I’m more concerned about Glass Shillens getting injured than DHB.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Im really leary on players that cant even stay healthy during Preseason (DMAC and Chaz) How can we depend on them to grind it out 16 games. The bad part is we really need those guys. Especially Chaz. Im not sold on DHB.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Injury concerns about Chaz and DMac are valid. But it doesn’t APPEAR that they will miss any REAL time. Being cautious with these guys the first few preseason games is actually the smart thing to do
August 18th, 2010 at 9:27 am
R8eray, there’s always Madden…LOL. Who knows he might learn a thing or five.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Why does DHB need to rest???
August 18th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Good morning all.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Cable is adamant that his offensive linemen be able to play more than one position once the regular season starts because only two or three extra offensive linemen are activated for a game.
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Barnes, Veldheer, and Bruce Campbell as the 3 extra Olinemen?
August 18th, 2010 at 9:30 am
The Raiders always seem to get decimated by injuries to key players…valid concerns for McFumble & Chaz “Sh!t on a” Schilens.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Dmac + DHB + Chaz = ?
I’ll take proposals.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Good to see football talk and not politics!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:33 am
only 3 extra lineman is puzzling to me….you have to figure each guy is better at one spot than the other. Would rather have a back-up playing at his strongest position than his lesser and hoping for the best, but what do i know i’m just a fan.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I’d be a lot happier if we signed a vet WR.If he starts to see a lot of the ball other teams will beat the crap out of him.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:34 am
That should be “if Miller starts”.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Chaz must be made of pudding. How do you break your foot runnin a pattern by yourself wit no contact. And you are still hurt from it a year and a half later.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Reading Tweets – I wish our boys would spend more time in conditioning and field study, and less time playing videogames, and hanging out at the JambaJuice. At least pretend like they are actually earning their millions.
On the other hand, at least they aren’t out sippin syzurp and riding without a helmet…
August 18th, 2010 at 9:35 am
according to the Raiders a break in the metatarsal can take a long time to heal.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:36 am
good morning neilb, do you know who (wr) is available in the free agency market?
August 18th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Shoulda got TO…ppl wouldnt feel so bad if JC hung him out to dry like he did to Murph-Dog…made me cringe! Plus he adds depth.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:38 am
28 passes in Asomugha’s direction – 111 for Revis in ‘09. Kid needs to quit his whining.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:39 am
We need a vet WR BAD. Just someone (besides ZM) who we can count on to catch a first down when we need it.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Morning R8eray….
The vet WR I wanted was Holt.A good pro,good bloke and would have tutored our young WR’s and still put up good numbers.
Who’s out there now ? Don’t know to be honest but a vet WR will get cutfrom some team and the Raiders should be ready.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:41 am
gonna have to wait for rosters to start cutting down, ‘Tay.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:41 am
post 141 agreed.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:42 am
All of the quality WR’s are signed. Antonio Bryant may not make the Bengals though
August 18th, 2010 at 9:43 am
You don’t have to be Dick LeBeau to know the Raiders’ QB will look at Miller first and the WR’S second.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Barnes, Veldheer, and Bruce Campbell as the 3 extra Olinemen?
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makes sense to me.
all 3 can play tackle
2 can play guard
1 can play center
August 18th, 2010 at 9:45 am
good thing we didn’t pick up holt….I believe he’s done for the season.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:45 am
He doesn’t have to be a stud Bcz24,just someone with a reliable pair of hands.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:45 am
I hate to say it, but Eugene seems to be having a good offseason. Could it be he is invigorated after being humiliated by Mcgahee last year? Probably not…
August 18th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Yeah,Holt’s out for the season.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Kelley Washington & Lav Coles were available earlier in the offseason too
sounds like we may be trying to lure Jerry Porter & Ronald Curry back from the UFL …
August 18th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Rockstar………
wash your mouth out with soap and water!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:52 am
maybe we could come up with a good proposal before trade dead- line and
pick up a good veteran receiver….
August 18th, 2010 at 9:54 am
if Chaz & Darrius both sit out against Chicago, the WR corps looks like this:
Murphy, Higgins, Watkins, Ford, Miller
good enough against a weak cubs secondary!
However, Murphy & Ford have battled injuries through camp as well so they may be limited to 1 quarter of play. Guys like Figurs & Bodiford will get tons of playing time in the second half
August 18th, 2010 at 9:54 am
LOL @ 152. I woulda been OK with Coles over K-Wash.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:54 am
@dmcfadden20: “My hamstring is feelin’ pretty good i been doin a lil runnin on it but it is somethin you dont wanna rush”
via twitter 2 hours ago
August 18th, 2010 at 9:54 am
why didn’t we pick up boldin!!!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I think it is a concern.All our WR’s are unproven or injury prone.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Figurs & Bodiford are sure fire cuts.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:57 am
big ted, i’ve heard that before….still does not change my mind on what I think about him!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Rockstar….
Those five names aren’t going to scare anyone.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I’m glad Ford is back. I’m hopin’ to see him on STs in Chi.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:01 am
# r8eray Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 9:57 am
big ted, i’ve heard that before….still does not change my mind on what I think about him!
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Yup. I’ll believe it when I see it.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski have been getting increased reps during Frye’s absence. Boller even received a great deal of time with the second-team offense Tuesday.
Don’t make too much out of that, though, Cable warned.
“Bruce isn’t back (from pectoral surgery) all the way yet,” Cable said Tuesday. “We’re bringing him back. That’s really more the issue than anything.”
Still, Boller looked sharp, including back-to-back scoring strikes to tight end Zach Miller.
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who gets the credit for resurrecting Kyle’s career?
A. Hue Jackson
B. Paul Hackett
C. Ted Tollner
D. Carrie Prejean
E. All of the above
August 18th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Jerry Porter…Mr Fed Ex. Remember he came to camp with that FedEx outfit. What a clown. Are those two really in the UFL???
August 18th, 2010 at 10:03 am
rr, al from above!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Those five names aren’t going to scare anyone.
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they don’t have to.
the blueprint is simple …
run the ball, stop the run and complete short to medium range passes. If that doesn’t work? Bring it Shane & Condo. Blast it 60 yards the other way
August 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Jerry Porter…Mr Fed Ex. Remember he came to camp with that FedEx outfit. What a clown. Are those two really in the UFL???
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Tay: he tried out for the Ravens & Redskins after JAX cut him. no dice
still a free agent. 32 years old
August 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am
@VittorioTafur: “Murphy catches one over Asomugha”
via twitter, 17 hours ago
@RAIDERS: “WR Louis Murphy made a great one handed catch along the left sideline”
via twitter, 17 hours ago
I know its just PRACTICE. but right now, he’s the best we got.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:07 am
who gets the credit for resurrecting Kyle’s career?
A. Hue Jackson
B. Paul Hackett
C. Ted Tollner
D. Carrie Prejean
E. All of the above
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F. Al Davis
August 18th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Maybe we should try Condo at WR.Kinda fits Cable’s “play at more than one position” mantra!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Why dont we try Conda at ummm…. Center
August 18th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Jerry Porter is just an AHole of a human being. That you cant help but root against. Remember the Dude was parking in Al Davis’ handicap parking spot. Blatant disrespect.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Converted defensive end Alex Daniels will see some action at fullback against the Bears, a week after not playing against the Cowboys. The free agent rookie was seen talking with owner Al Davis after practice, and said the two have spoken three times. It’s good to have friends in high places.
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only a matter of time before Daniels gets a $20 million contract and is compared to the best Raider fullbacks ever
August 18th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Pito
August 18th, 2010 at 10:13 am
A DE at fullback and a long snapper at WR! The Raider magic is back!!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Thomas Howard sighting: picks off Gradkowski
Wimbley has not stood out one way or the other thus far
-Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
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The Heat Is On!
Glenn Frey
August 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
A handful of fans screamed Davis’ name as if they were seeing one of the Beatles stroll past their front yard
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Probably screaming in terror. Al is one scary lookin’ mug.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Ted: Al Davis is a legend
August 18th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Satele blocked Joseph to the ground with both arms and then delivered a knockout blow as Joseph attempted to get to his feet. From there, it was on.
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Save it for the regs Satele!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:17 am
RR, its not what you know, its who you know!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:17 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Ted: Al Davis is a legend
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Agreed, but you can’t tell me he’s pretty to look at
August 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Jon Condo is 6′3″ 250 lbs
long snapper, ST coverage units and reserve linebacker
he’s not fit to play WR or C
why didn’t they try him at FB?
too valuable on ST, perhaps?
August 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Heyyyy!
Maybe Satele is starting to realize that he needs to focus and be more physical and step it the hell up FINALLY!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Big Foot is a legend too… he is pretty effin scary
August 18th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Big Foot is a legend too… he is pretty effin scary
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Veldheer at center kinda resembles Sasquatch
August 18th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Bcz24…LOL!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:23 am
lets not bash a legend…remember, he was the reason behind the merger in the AFL/NFL!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:24 am
“I am encouraged (by the protection), but as we talked about after the game, we need to get going a little quicker and sustain some drives,” Cable said. “Third down was really the biggest negative out of that football game. There was some good things in terms of protection. I thought in the second half running the ball with some efficiency. But I’d like to see us get started just a little bit quicker.”
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No O-Line penalty’s would help.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:25 am
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/strange-creatures/bigfoot.htm
oh snap!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
lets not bash a legend…remember, he was the reason behind the merger in the AFL/NFL!
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Not trying to bash – Al is scary, and that’s the way I like him (uh-huh uh-huh).
August 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Offense was very stale.
Bruce should provide a much needed jolt this weekend, but hopefully he is just continuing on from what the first teamers do in the first half.
The last thing I need to see is another 3-4 drives with the ones that don’t produce any or many points, and Bruce tossing a TD.
You guys won’t hear the end of it, lol!!!
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Yeah but…“Bruce isn’t back (from pectoral surgery) all the way yet,” Cable said Tuesday. “We’re bringing him back. That’s really more the issue than anything.”
Is Bruce even going to play Saturday? It could be more of the Kyle Boller show.
Wonder if we see any Colt?
Want to see Veldheer at center and I’m telling you, B.Campbell had his moments in Dallas against 2nds and 3rds.
Once he got ahold of guys, they were done.
Still needs TONS of work on cut blocks though.
He read and helped chip on a delayed blitz though and that was niiiice indeed…
^^^^^^^^
I would luv to see Veldheer get some time at Center with the 1’s and 2’s!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am
big, I was not being serious…just mocking him from his last interview! lol!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:29 am
http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/davisscary.jpg
August 18th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Time to go.
have a great Wednesday everyone.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Same to you Neilb
August 18th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Ted: how dare you post a link to a donkey fansite …
Benedict Arnold!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:37 am
talk to guys later…..
August 18th, 2010 at 10:38 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Ted: how dare you post a link to a donkey fansite …
Benedict Arnold!
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PhUk the Donkeys and their Tim Teabagger fans.
It is a funny jpg tho.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Satele is going to be just fine. Has nothing to do with him taking WJ to the woodshed Satele is starting to get comfortbal with the scheme and this team….simple as that.
I think you guy’s overeact to every little tweet or article or blog to the pint where a body of work means nothing. It’s what gets me going today for you guy’s which as fickle as it gets.
That’s why guy’slike KK and SnB can’t fathom players needing to develope. Everything is instant gratification with no appreciation for team developmnt which is exactly how championship teams are biult.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Bruce Almighty camp highlights, courtesy of Jerry Mac tweets:
Gradkowski completes 15-yd throw into crowded middle to Louis Murphy
Gradkowski rolls right finds JLH back of end zone.
Gradkowski 2nd QB up in 7-7, first pass thru Bennett’s hands, McClain good covg, then finds Rock, throws behind Miller, finds Bodiford TD
Gradkowski zips out pattern to Figurs. Looks like he’s good to go. Doubt he’ll be running much, though
Gradkowski finds McFadden swing right, he smoothly accelerates in lane between defender, sideline
Gradkowski finds Tony Stewart open vs. Rolando McClain.
Gradkowski to ZMiller for another red zone score vs. Groves/Goethel
Gradkowski hits ZMiller with dagger in end zone vs. Eugene
Miller catches short Gradkowski pass in between Howard/Boyd sandwich
Gradkowski finds TStewart in middle, then John Owens.
Gradkowski makes nice hot read to McFadden in face of Trevor Scott blitz
Gradkowski sideline streak to Figurs over Porter.
13 completions in 15 attempts. Campbell 7-8, Gradkowski 4-4.
Gradkowski zings swing left to McFadden with Groves in coverage. No contest
Someone forgot to cover Zach Miller – it was Mike Mitchell – Gradkowski finds him running free on crossing route.
More red zone work, Gradkowski finds Ford on slant for TD
First/goal at 12, Gradkowski finds Ford to 6 . . . swing right to McFadden covered by CJ
Gradkowski finds McFadden streaking down right sideline vs. Tyvon Branch. He accelerates into ball, smoothly surges into clear
Gradkowski connects deep to last year’s camp surprise . . . Nick Miller
Gradkowski finds Todd Watkins in stride on crossing route
Gradkowski hits Murphy on hard slant inside Tyvon Branch
DHB catches routine hitch from Gradkowski and shakes Joey Thomas to get downfield
Gradkowski finds Jacoby Ford short middle
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if this doesn’t get Fire Baby (Vegas) fired up for Saturday’s game, I don’t know what will!
August 18th, 2010 at 10:51 am
It is a funny jpg tho.
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Ted: just messing with you man
I tried to click the link. work blocked it (no surprise there)
August 18th, 2010 at 10:52 am
C’mon tj, how many times do you need to see our QBs getting sacked? I agree players need time to develop, but it would be nice if they were at least 70% there by this point.
Sign Mawae already.
August 18th, 2010 at 10:54 am
I understand that morning practice was canceled. Anyone know why?
August 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
It also seems like Frye is done with the Raiders unfortunately….
August 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
TJ -
Samson Satele was drafted in 2007, ahead of Henderson, Higgins & Schilens.
Chazeray is brittle and these other cats regressed last season
it’s time for all 4 players to step up imo
in your 4th NFL season, the lights should be on. no more excuses
August 18th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Raider75:
BCZ was asking for that site to watch Raider games on-line
you got that handy?
August 18th, 2010 at 10:59 am
I understand that morning practice was canceled. Anyone know why?
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bowling rematch.
Super Mario vs. Mike Bush
August 18th, 2010 at 11:03 am
They were only sacked once vs Dallas whil we sackd Dallas 7 times. Which would you prefer?? Uh!! I know you’d prefer Dallas’ line. lol
August 18th, 2010 at 11:04 am
– One particularly clueless fan shouted at a player as he exited the locker room and headed for the team hotel. “Charlie Frye!”
“Nope, I’m Kyle Boller,” Boller said, as he laughed.
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Too funny.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:06 am
There’s a site where you can watch Raider games online?
Where’s the link? Give it up!
August 18th, 2010 at 11:12 am
# priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:03 am
They were only sacked once vs Dallas whil we sackd Dallas 7 times. Which would you prefer?? Uh!! I know you’d prefer Dallas’ line. lol
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I’d prefer no sacks. Satele is not a rookie. He should be ready to go right now, not losing his cool in practice.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Frye/Boller whatever. all them white folks look the same
August 18th, 2010 at 11:14 am
RR – Practice was canceled because Coach Cable felt the players could benefit from a good, strenuous session of jazzersize instead followed by some serious aroma therapy.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:16 am
LMAO at Satele showing how tough he is against WJ…maybe next he will get into it with Herrera?
August 18th, 2010 at 11:17 am
212.
http://atdhe.net/
August 18th, 2010 at 11:19 am
DKnight007 Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
It also seems like Frye is done with the Raiders unfortunately….
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Not so fast. Even though he can’t grip or throw a football, he’s an Al Davis guy and we know what that can mean…
August 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
if this doesn’t get Fire Baby (Vegas) fired up for Saturday’s game, I don’t know what will!
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Fire Baby is fired up….baby
August 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Practice was canceled because Coach Cable felt the players could benefit from a good, strenuous session of jazzersize instead followed by some serious aroma therapy.
Satele showing how tough he is against WJ…maybe next he will get into it with Herrera?
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LOL!
August 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
He is going right now what exactly are you talking about he’s the starting Center isn’t he?
August 18th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Jered may get some run with the 1B’s, but I bet it might be more with the 2’s, and they may even just let him do it at LT.
Doesn’t seem like there is a plan in place to get him ready for week 1 at center.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:25 am
They were only sacked once vs Dallas whil we sackd Dallas 7 times. Which would you prefer?? Uh!! I know you’d prefer Dallas’ line. lol
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Dallas allowed 34 sacks in 2009. Oakland allowed 49.
Tough choice.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Doesn’t seem like there is a plan in place to get him ready for week 1 at center.
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Veldheer would be working exclusively at center imo, if that was the plan. He already knows how to play LT well enough to be drafted in RD3 (never gave up a sack in college)
August 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Never gave up a sack in college? Is that true?
Either way, his school is best known for publicating an extreme right-wing newsletter, sponsored by Sean Hannity.
Not quite Julian Peppers stuff, like he may face this weekend.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Veldheer would be working exclusively at center imo, if that was the plan. He already knows how to play LT well enough to be drafted in RD3 (never gave up a sack in college)
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I think you are right about that. I think they are getting him ready for that LT spot because isn’t Henderson a free agent next season?
August 18th, 2010 at 11:30 am
he’s the starting Center isn’t he?
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Yes, and he’s losing his cool v. second stringers in practice.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Well this aint 2009 and the stats from last year don’t count sorry.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:33 am
J wiggle might be right….and I think Henderson signed up with some super agent last year, so I am sure he will be asking for a contract like Jason Peters…even though he certainly hasn’t earned it yet.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Veldheer did not allow a quarterback sack in four seasons at Hillsdale … verified
August 18th, 2010 at 11:36 am
# priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
He is going right now what exactly are you talking about he’s the starting Center isn’t he?
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By default only and that will change soon.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Mario Henderson is scheduled to make $550,000 this year and is a RFA next season … Jwigg is correct
per rotoworld
August 18th, 2010 at 11:38 am
# priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Well this aint 2009 and the stats from last year don’t count sorry.
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True Enough.
We may yet see improvement on the O-Line, I just wish we were hearing about it sooner rather than later.
I don’t see much downside in signing Mawae – worst case is he winds up backing up Satele, and that wouldn’t be worse than Morris imho.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I think Henderson signed up with some super agent last year, so I am sure he will be asking for a contract like Jason Peters…even though he certainly hasn’t earned it yet.
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Drew Rosenhaus
August 18th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Jason Peters got that contract and was quickly exposed as a bum… he was turnstyled right outta B-lo
August 18th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Raider75:
BCZ was asking for that site to watch Raider games on-line
you got that handy?
………..
ATDHE.net
August 18th, 2010 at 11:42 am
V <——- the org knows he is a player, want to get him on the field asap…
Play the best five….
August 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
The org has a great idea of who’s who’s…
August 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
McFadden = Bust
August 18th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Practice was canceled because Al popped an ambien and decided to sleep in.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Come on DMAC!! Always hurt, it’s a shame…..
August 18th, 2010 at 11:46 am
priesttj Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Satele is going to be just fine. Has nothing to do with him taking WJ to the woodshed Satele is starting to get comfortbal with the scheme and this team….simple as that.
I think you guy’s overeact to every little tweet or article or blog to the pint where a body of work means nothing. It’s what gets me going today for you guy’s which as fickle as it gets.
That’s why guy’slike KK and SnB can’t fathom players needing to develope. Everything is instant gratification with no appreciation for team developmnt which is exactly how championship teams are biult.
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Oh no….not you again and your lack of credibility and blind optimism.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:46 am
ottocrat Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
McFadden = Bust
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Sure is starting to look and feel that way isn’t it. This season sure will solidify that…
August 18th, 2010 at 11:47 am
The downsid is he is 80 years old, he’s done…roasted and deep fried. Move on!!
August 18th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Al Davis most closely resembles:
a) Skeletor
b) Gollum
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
RRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEEERRRRSSSS!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Interesting to me is how you can be a fan of the Raiders but simply hate Al Davis…. He is the Raiders. Don’t bother trying to explain, it’s logic I just don’t understand.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
The Raider Oline did not play that poorly in the lst preseason game, especially considering Dallas has a pretty solid front 5. It was Dallas’ Oline that looked porous.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Al Davis most closely resembles:
a) Skeletor
b) Gollum
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The Emperor from the Star Wars films! LOL
August 18th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just Win Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
The Raider Oline did not play that poorly in the lst preseason game, especially considering Dallas has a pretty solid front 5. It was Dallas’ Oline that looked porous.
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Or was our DLine just fing ROCK F’ING SOLID. Man I can’t remember when the possibiliites of our DLINE looking so good was!!!!!! I am pumped.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Al Davis certainly doesn’t fit the mold of other owners such as; Robert Craft…… So go be a fan of another team if you hate Al so much. He is the Raiders, he owns the Raiders.
August 18th, 2010 at 11:58 am
I aint the worst that you’ve seen, can’t you see what I meannnnnnnn?
August 18th, 2010 at 11:59 am
is that Dr Seuss?
August 18th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
# A Smithsonian Institute Janitor Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Just Win Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:52 am
The Raider Oline did not play that poorly in the lst preseason game, especially considering Dallas has a pretty solid front 5. It was Dallas’ Oline that looked porous.
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Or was our DLine just fing ROCK F’ING SOLID. Man I can’t remember when the possibiliites of our DLINE looking so good was!!!!!! I am pumped.
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Then again, we kicked Dall-ass in the lst preseason game last year, and we all know how that season ended for both teams. Getting too excited or distressed after one preseason game is a little much.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Just Win
Agreed, BUT, our DLine has some potential unlike we have seen in years.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
And, that has been one of many thorns that has hurt us for quite some time now.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Is this the year that we FINALLY stop the run? I hope so. Too bad that little BISH LT is no longer a Dolt. Would love to have seen him get flatened by Seymour, or Houston.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
I think I have seen LT cry publicly more than any other athlete I have EVER seen. Thats some funny shiz nit right there bro.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
For as much as people on here and Jon Gruden on the broadcast were raving about that John Conner for the Jets, the 20 minutes or so I saw of him on Monday, he looked lost and very stiff.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Maybe he was just nervous, maybe he saw a Terminator in the stands and it scared him.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Go Raiders! (1-0)
Have a good one y’all!
August 18th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
janitor: Tomlinson out, Mathews in
Ryan Mathews had nine carries for 50 yards and two catches for 11 yards in the dolts first preseason game
August 18th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Friday night we’ll be drinkin’ Manishewitz, Goin’ out to terrorize Goyim. Stompin’ shaygetz, screwin’ shiksas, As long as we’re home by Saturday mornin.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
John Conner for the Jets, the 20 minutes or so I saw of him on Monday, he looked lost and very stiff.
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JFB: I’d still take him over Lawton, Reece, Tonga or Moline!
here’s hoping Alex Daniels is the real deal
August 18th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
JFB: I’d still take him over Lawton, Reece, Tonga or Moline!
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Comparing undrafted guys to a 5th round pick. Not entirely fair, IMO.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Speaking of the Monday Night telecast, what is up with that crazy techno music they play when they put up a graphic?
After about 7 or so Yuenglings’ I was feeling it and ready to start dancing!!
August 18th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Priest,
Totally disagree with you on Satele. He doesn’t look comfortable to me at all. Just one preseason game, but he looked the same against Dallas as he did last year. Whiffing on screens, getting rag dolled, etc. Every play? Not at all. But when he does fugg up, it really puts us in a bad situation like that sack he gave up to put us in 3rd and forever. The missed block on Spencer during the Bush screen play. Several other plays where he just misses completely. In most cases, he is supposed to be chipping and releasing to the second level, but he misses the chip WAY too often.
I’ve watched that game at least 3 times, and I just wasn’t impressed with Satele.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Comparing undrafted guys to a 5th round pick. Not entirely fair
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JFB: weren’t YOU PEOPLE comparing the undrafted Nick Miller to Higgins & Ford, who were 3rd & 4th round picks?
August 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Touche, lol
August 18th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
so what do you guys think of Barnes, Morris, Loper & Pears?
We all think the rookies have potential.
it’s pretty obvious that the favorites to start Week 1 are Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker. barring injury (of course)
August 18th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Sup Nation
August 18th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
where is Raider O?
Ground Zero planning committee?
Frantz Joseph (CFL practice squad) autograph signing?
August 18th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Sup Bleeder
August 18th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
From Satele and over all the way to the right of him we can use upgrades, but I don’t think Barnes, Loper or Pears can do anything better….maybe Morris. Praying Campbell and Veldheer just wow the coaches in these next three weeks and get inserted as starters.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Look at Satele to get flipped on his back the whole year. Look for McFadden in street cloths on the side linemore than half of the year.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Waddup Rockstar! Good to see you up here
August 18th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Every time I look at our o-line I just want to cry and I know nothing about coaching the o-line.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
I think Morris is the worst Olineman we have. Needs to be cut.
Barnes and Pears should make the team, and possibly start at RG or RT.
Looper hasn’t done much since his TK highlight drill.
I’d like to see Barnes at RT. Kinda shocked that he is exclusively playing OG.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Being I don’t post as much as I used to, I don’t remember who all on here goes to the games. Being I’m not originally from out here, and live down here in SoCal I don’t know any folks to tailgate with, but I’m headed up to Oakland for the Dolphins game the Sunday after Thanksgiving…..looking forward to choppin’ it up with somebody from the blog up there
August 18th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RR Gallery is key man. He has to stay healthy and have a probowl type of year.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Hung 52 on the Chefs last night… Jacoby Ford is the MAN! LOL 11 TDs in 4 games, and DMAC has 1100yds of yac in my season. God I love making the Raiders great!
August 18th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Our firt play of the Dallas game was a 2 TE set with no FB.
I really think we are going to see a lot of 1 back sets this year. Be it 2 TEs, or Bush and McFadde in the backfield with one of them going in motion.
Just don’t see that many snaps for a FB in our offense.
Unless of course I’m missing the fact that we will be up double digits in the 4th qtr and just need to run the clock out, lol.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Bleeder & CJ ***
Satele, Carlisle, Walker, Barnes, Morris, Loper & Pears
right now – 2010: would any of these guys start for another NFL club or even receive significant playing time ???
August 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I don’t think Morris is as bad as he is at guard as he is at center…..either way though, it’s obvious, we need a new starter at C, RG and RT
August 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I think a few of those guys would garner interest, and possibly start in Buffalo… then again Buffalos starting OLine is currently composed of spit and toilet paper… with duct tape snapping the ball
August 18th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Nope…they’re all replaceable…..Carlisle, Walker, Satele, Barnes, Pears, and Morris are all backups anywhere else. Well, maybe one of them would start for the Redskins. Their line was worse than ours last year…
August 18th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
right now – 2010: would any of these guys start for another NFL club or even receive significant playing time ???
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I was wondering the same thing about our WRs.
Honestly, I don’t think ANY of our WRs are better than a #3 on “good” teams. Chaz when healthy may be the exception to that. Murphy and JLH have the POTENTIAL to do some things out there, but as of yet? Hasn’t happened.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
I think Morris is the worst Olineman we have. Needs to be cut.
Barnes and Pears should make the team, and possibly start at RG or RT.
Looper hasn’t done much since his TK highlight drill.
I’d like to see Barnes at RT. Kinda shocked that he is exclusively playing OG.
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Morris is versatile and played better at center than Satele.
Barnes sucked at RT and Pears showed he is the WORST Raider lineman we have during the Dallas game.
Loper dominated against 2nds and scrubs. He looked really good and I can’t figure out the knock on him…
I’ll have to check the game again, you may be right but I think I remember Barnes at RT after Walker went out.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Buffalos starting OLine is currently composed of spit and toilet paper… with duct tape snapping the ball
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LOL!
wonder what the rest of the league is saying about OUR o-line ???
August 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
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August 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I don’t think Morris is as bad as he is at guard as he is at center…..either way though, it’s obvious, we need a new starter at C, RG and RT
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B Campbell looked better than I thought he would…
August 18th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I don’t think Morris is as bad as he is at guard as he is at center…..
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Absolutely worse at OG than he is a C. Dude has ZERO stregnth. They expirimented with Morris at OG for the Washington game last year, and we all know how that turned out. He was benched in favor of Langston Walker and he never saw the field at that position again.
August 18th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Morris is versatile and played better at center than Satele.
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When? Pittsburgh game when they had to move Satele to OG? I think the only thing Morris had on Satele last year was his knowledge of the system and calls.
I’ll go out on a limb and say Morris doesn’t make it out of camp.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Morris played better AT TIMES than Satele. He really wasn’t any better truthfully though. Whats weird is he looks more comfortable at guard even though he played center all the time at Michigan St. He’s just not a legit NFL center though. Satele has more fire in him, but Morris is probably stronger than him. Either way, it’s a crapshoot with both being immediately replaceable.
Wiggle – Our WR’s might not be that bad. Considering every pass that came from Jamarcus was 3 feet over their heads or aimed 2ft under the ground, they deserve Mulligans on first appearances. Murphy might be the real deal. Schilens obviously is when healthy, and DHB might surprise us all. Higgins is still suspect to me. He’s had more than enough time to show and prove and he comes down with “brick hand syndrome” way too often….
August 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
the only time I remember Morris doing well at center, or outplaying Satele was Week 1 last year against San Diego
our O-Line was physical & tough. we took Jamal Williams out for the season and pretty much had our way running the football on them
Gallery went down. Satele & Morris both experimented at LG along with Pears and Walker – the rest is history
August 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Exactly, Morris is smarter, and Satele has more fire, but neither one of them translated that into dominant play. I’m not saying Morris is better than him because I think Morris is good. I think they both suck, but I’d rather have Morris out there because he at least knows how to communicate and work with the guards next to him. Satele just lets the middle of the line implode, and we both know the right side stays under fire from the “Curse of Cornell Green”….I mean, damn, dude is off the team and it still looks like he’s out there f’n ish up…..
August 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Morris is versatile and played better at center than Satele.
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When? Pittsburgh game when they had to move Satele to OG? I think the only thing Morris had on Satele last year was his knowledge of the system and calls.
I’ll go out on a limb and say Morris doesn’t make it out of camp.
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Morris played center when Satele was BENCHED last year for non performance. Only reason they moved Morris to RG was to replace Robert Gallery.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
297. Sorry LG not RG
August 18th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
if Campbell can take over at RT and Veldheer at center, I’d be cool with Carlisle staying there at guard with two monsters like that flanking him….
August 18th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
if Campbell can take over at RT and Veldheer at center, I’d be cool with Carlisle staying there at guard with two monsters like that flanking him….
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maybe even Loper or Walker at RG?
I wouldn’t care about 3 new starters!
best time to try it would be preseason …
August 18th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Yeah, anything would be better than replaying last year’s starters with Walker replacing Green. I mean, do they really think Walker replacing Green is going to make that much a difference…..
August 18th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
It will as far as penalties, but Walker is just as bad as Green….
August 18th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Bleeder: despite Walker’s reported weight loss, he’s still too big, fat and slow to handle pass rushing DE’s & OLB’s IMO
this may result in some holding calls. hopefully that false start was just an isolated incident
I don’t think he drew may of those during his first stint in Oakland, nor Buffalo
August 18th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 10:57 am
TJ -
Samson Satele was drafted in 2007, ahead of Henderson, Higgins & Schilens.
Chazeray is brittle and these other cats regressed last season
it’s time for all 4 players to step up imo
in your 4th NFL season, the lights should be on. no more excuses
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I agree that these players should be ready to go in the NFL by now.
However, it doesn’t become any easier for them when the freakin team is constantly changing Head Coaches, O-Coordinators, Playcallers, QB’s and overall Offensive terminology every other year!
August 18th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Morris played center when Satele was BENCHED last year for non performance. Only reason they moved Morris to RG was to replace Robert Gallery.
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Satele started week 4 thru the end of the season if I recall correctly. He was terrible in preseason and didn’t know the line calls. Once he got the playbook down, he started the rest of the season.
All I know is they tried Morris at OG in the Washington game, and the very next week Langston Walker was our starting LG for the rest of the season.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Holding calls are going to be the scourge of the league this year, what with the umpire being stationed behind the line of scrimmage now. Gruden mentioned this on the MNF broadcast, saying that there is likely to be more calls now that there are two sets of eyes in the backfield instead of one.
Mario actually tweeted somebody a little while ago and told them to make sure they have extra pairs of gloves in their opponents’ jersey colors. Good thinkin’, Mario!
August 18th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Al: Hey Cable guy
TC: Yeah boss
Al: What’s that Satelite guy doing in there. He’s like a NY turnstyle. He’s getting us killed.
TC: Well, I’ve been working with ‘em
Al: So?
TC: He’s the best vet we’ve got that can snap.
Al: So?
TC: He’ll come around.
Al: When?
TC: Sooner than later I’d say.
Al: What about those new kids I got you? You know “The Manster” and he giant kid.
TC: Yeah but they are rooks at NFL line play.
Al: Yeah, but so are you at HC and your in the game
TC: What do you want me to do Boss?
Al: Just win baby but you better fix that guy & you better fix that guard slot too.
TC: I’ll do whatever you want Boss. I’ll talk to the Satelite guy. I’ll tell him my ass is on the line.
Al: You bet your ass is on the line. Either you fix it now or I’ll fix you. Anyone seen whatshisname Huey around?
August 18th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Langston started two games at left guard and played in seven after signing last October
http://articles.sfgate.com/keyword/langston-walker
August 18th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Walker should be playing RG and NOT RT!
August 18th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
The O-line needs to be fixed by the 1st season game. Satele & Carlisle must go. Go ahead and put Veldheer & BCampbell in there. If we are going to lose let’s at least do it with the best people available in the starting positions.
Cable will come to this conclusion – hopefully sooner than later. Cable’s ass is on the line for results THIS year.
August 18th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
[...] Raiders unsure how long QB Frye will be out after surgery By myraidernation Leave a Comment Categories: MYRAIDERNATION Tags: Bruce Gradkowski, Colt Brennan, Jason Campbell, Kyle Boller NFL.com Wire Reports Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable said Tuesday that he isn’t sure how long the team will be without backup quarterback Charlie Frye, who will have surgery on his right wrist Wednesday, the Contra Costa Times reported. [...]
August 18th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
I’d be interested in seeing Colt Brennan play this weekend just to see what he brings to OUR table.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Frye is most likely toast for this year. Gradkowski has two bad wheels (knees) and has been subject to other injuries as of late. I hope Grad can get well enough to be a dependable back-up. If not we ‘re probably looking at JCampbell, Boller & Brennan or some new development guy.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
JB: I think we should play Jason Campbell in the 1st half. Boller gets the 3rd, Brennan gets the 4th
Gradkowski still isn’t 100 percent (pec, groin)
I’d let the man get healthy rather than risk further injury in a meaningless game … same with DMAC, Chaz, etc
August 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
JB: I don’t want Jevan Snead on this team and we don’t know what Colt Brennan can do, as of yet.
Let Bruce sit. Boller might outplay him anyways!
Steve Corkran said he’s been impressive in camp as of late and he did well enough for a #2 against Dallas last week
August 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
JB: I don’t want Jevan Snead on this team and we don’t know what Colt Brennan can do, as of yet.
Let Bruce sit. Boller might outplay him anyways!
Steve Corkran said he’s been impressive in camp as of late and he did well enough for a #2 against Dallas last week
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i think Boller brings some decent play especially for a #3 depth, better than frye, but if grads cant stay healthy he might make a suitable #2…
also very interested to see Colt Brennan play
August 18th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RRS. I agree. No sense in getting him further damaged with no real upside. I really want to see Brennan for at least a quarter with a semi decent O-line.
Maybe stick Chaz in there in the later quarters against scrubs – assuming his foot is OK. That way he can get some real life practice without really having to overexert himself. Maybe the same with DMac if he’s ready.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I’d like to see Brennan play behind Henderson, Gallery, Veldheer, BCampbell & Barnes with Meyers at TE. Wideouts to be Murphy & JLH with Nick Miller in the slot. Let DMac run swing pass & checkdown patterns. That lineup ought to prove interesting & productive. That would probably tell us all we need to know about Brennan.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
JB: if Brennan even gets in the game, it’ll probably be the 4th quarter. RB’s Bennett & Cartwright. WR’s NMiller, Figurs & Bodiford (is Hubbard healthy yet?). TE’s Stewart & John Owens
August 18th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RRS, you are probably right but there’s enough there if they let him throw. I like Bennett from what we’ve seen so far. Miller & Figurs could do some damage. Bodiford won’t make he squad so why bother with him? Probably more Owens than Stewart. Stewart is already a known commodity.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Is Saturday’s game being televised? What channel (SF Bay Area) or network? Time?
August 18th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
JB: you’re right
Bodiford & Hubbard are as good as gone …
Miller, Figurs & Watkins are all probably fighting for the 6th WR spot (we should probably keep 6 since Chaz is fragile)
August 18th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
I think we should keep 4 RB’s too because of DMAC …
would anybody be upset if we went skimpy on the lines to make this happen?
3 QB’s, 3 TE’s, 4 RB’s & 6 WR’s
that means probably only 9 OL & 9 DL
Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle, Walker, Campbell, Veldheer, Barnes and either Morris or Pears
Shaughnessy, Seymour, Kelly, Houston, Henderson, Bryant, Richardson and either Joseph or Gunheim
August 18th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Nick Miller is a lock for the squad. Watkins won’t make it. Not sure on Figurs. He might make it as a dual purpose player like NMiller – PR/KOR/WR. JLH may still be trade bait.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Loper & Cooper out.
Heard, Parsons, Smith & Rodd are all candidates for the practice squad … same as LB’s Nixon & Norris
August 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
keepers:
Asomugha, Huff, Mitchell, Branch, Johnson, Routt, McFadden
Scott, Wimbley, McClain, Brown, Goethel, Groves, Williams
chopping block:
Howard, Boyd, Brown, Eugene, Porter, Thomas, Ware
August 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
They won’t keep 4 RB’s on the active 53. Your point on DMac’s frailness is noted & appropriate. I’d say Cartwright on PS. We already have much faster KOR’s available in NMiller & Figurs. Ford might fit in that mold too. I don’t see them keeping Morris. They already have Walker, Barnes & BCampbell who can fill in at guard. I think Veldheer should be starting at center with Satele in back-up role. Then, go after Mike Pouncey or Stefen Wisniewski next year as backup or starting center. I don’t think Wisniewski will be there when we pick unless we move up into the first round.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I think rookies J. Ware & S. Brown will end up on our PS too
If we can’t trade Howard, he’s gone
August 18th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
JB: Rock isn’t eligible for the PS, neither is Bennett
if we don’t keep Morris, it’ll be Pears or Loper instead – Cable will keep at least 9 OL (8 of them active on game day)
August 18th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
keepers:
Asomugha, Huff, Mitchell, Branch, Johnson, Routt, McFadden
Scott, Wimbley, McClain, Brown, Goethel, Groves, Williams
chopping block:
Howard, Boyd, Brown, Eugene, Porter, Thomas, Ware
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Disagree on Williams-LB. He’s not even listed on the depth chart. His days are about over. Thomas Howard would be a better keeper and at a minimum has trade value – 3rd or 4th round pick. Eugene should bring a 5th or 6th round pick.
August 18th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!!
August 18th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I think Cooper should get cut. His play is deteriorating and they would be better served to out Walker or Campbell at RG and start Barnes or Veldheer at RT if they don’t want to start Veldheer at Center.
Veldheer needs to get more snaps with the 1st team as a Center or RT!
August 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
big reason the raiders are struggling at wr is because they do not have many effective middle-range routes. if they bone up on the 5 step drop and middle route pass paterns they will open up every other aspect of the passing game.
there lack of a middle passing game is hindering the long and short.
opposing defenses cover the short and deep primarily since that is a lot of what the raiders execute – unless of course – down the middle to the te zackster. hmmm, reminds me of the san diego super bolts for some reason :^
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raiders run game looks solid, but the oline is just average at best, so expect average run results. not bad. they should have bush as the workhorse, as many on here point out. he’s good, but needs plently of touches a game to get a good tempo going. if ever healthy, mcfluffys looks like a 3rd down back – for now anyways. he needs to prove something before fans give him respect. show something mcfluffy.
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jason campbell is ok, but nothing to write home about. he’s better than japurlejuice and that should count. i hope, but don’t expect jason to light it up in any sense at first. he should do ok, if not asked to carry the team. other players need to step up week-in and week-out for wins to stack up.
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defense looks solid so far. expect that the raiders should fair at least “average” in run defense, which is much improved from 30th the last few years. good dl showing with seymour acting as a the leader of the bunch. lb’s are still in review, but hear good things about the new mike lb mccain.
V
August 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
What up Nation?!
Boyd, Brown, Eugene,
I think we gotta keep just one of these guys – I’m rootin’ for Stevie Brown (27).
Ax Eugene.
August 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
DK You are preaching to the choir. Veldheer to center. Walker to RG. Barnes or Somebody to ORT. Better yet, package a trade of Routt & Howard for a starting ORT.
August 18th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
JB,
I hope you’re wrong about Watkins. He can actually catch, and is good on the coverage units. JLH, Miller, Cartwright and Ford are enough in the return game without keeping Figurs, too. One or two of those guys goes down we can always sign him later.
Worried about cutting Michael Bennett loose. He looks good so far and I wouldn’t want to see him resurface in our division (Denver, for example). Maybe, just maybe Cartwright is the guy that loses that battle because we do have some depth in the return game. Figurs might have a shot under that scenario.
August 18th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Teach – That was my take. I still think Watkins is odd man out unless Chaz ends up on IR or JLH gets traded. I agree on keeping Bennett. I’d rather defend against Cartwright than Bennett.
August 18th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
JB,
Yeah, I guess I’m just hoping Watkins will stick regardless. He just seems to contribute when he’s on the field.
Won’t be long and we’ll know!
August 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Watkins is more reliable than Chaz. Keeping Chaz over Watkins would be stupid. Chaz needs to sign the injury settlement paperwork and be on his way. He will probably hurt his wrist and be out 10 weeks just signing it.
August 18th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
RRRRRAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDDDEEEERRRRRRSSSSS!!!!!
August 18th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
keepers:
Asomugha, Huff, Mitchell, Branch, Johnson, Routt, McFadden
Scott, Wimbley, McClain, Brown, Goethel, Groves, Williams
chopping block:
Howard, Boyd, Brown, Eugene, Porter, Thomas, Ware
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A couple of these guys have barely played one quarter of one preseason game. It’s pretty ridiculous to write players off before they have barely hit the field, don’t you think?
August 18th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
We can write Chaz off though, and soon DMac. Walking injury settlements…
August 18th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
WTF?
Did Cable give the team the day off, or are the dudes from the Chron., and the Bee. being slackers today…
Whoever assigned Jerry to cover the effin 9er’s for a couple of days, needs to be kicked in the nuts….
August 18th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
DHB giving pointers to Ford on side 5 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Figurs beautiful over-shoulder catch (from Boller) that beat Ware 6 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Unless they wore pads in this morning’s “cancelled” practice, Raiders have only got some hitting in on Monday 8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Bennett turns corner on McClain and then Cartwright breaks one up the middle. Too bad those guys can’t play receiver 13 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
No pads again 16 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Also no Schilens or Chris Johnson 17 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
DHB back on field but strangely after day of “rest” his left knee and hamstring are taped up 21 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
No McFadden or Langston Walker 23 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Live at Raiders camp … (had to finish up Jeff Garcia story – he signed with Omaha Nighthawks)
August 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Tafur is no Jerry that for sure
August 18th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Better than silence.
August 18th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
These updates, or lack thereof, are frustrating.
Jerry is da man!
August 18th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
#
Gradkowski is not taking turns throwing, just watching 4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Love Alex Daniels but no more pass routes … Yikes 6 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
August 18th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Probably should just sit Gradkowski for a couple of weeks. Let him heal. Play JCampbell, Boller & Brennan. A quarter, quarter & half sounds about right.
August 18th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
With Frye already in the toaster let’s hope that Gradkowski won’t end up in the other side of the same toaster.
August 18th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Denver keeps getting screwed with injuries. The J McD curse i tell ya. Look what happened to Ol Brady boy when he was his OC!
August 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
351. Glutten,
They sat SEVENTEEN guys this last practice. Bwah ha ha! Hate see guys get hurt but gawd I loathe the Broncos.
Not just Shan rat and the team being division rivals. Their fans can be quite the A holes…not that the Nation is a bunch of cream puffs but still…
August 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Mitchell would have had Bennett for loss (if pads) less than 5 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Big John Henderson gets up and almost picks off Brennan pass 1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Ware working with first-team nickel defense 7 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Ricky Brown with a pick; don’t see him getting cut 8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
August 18th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Is this the year that Sam Williams – LB, finally meets the Turk?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Off topic from Twitter:
DamonBruce – Raquel, no contest. RT @DRey2531: @pcon34 Raquel Welch at 45, J Lo at 35 or Kim Kardashian rite now. @DamonBruce
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That’s a tough call…
August 18th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Off topic from twitter
JB6427 says Just answer the door naked. They’ll go away! LOL
about 6 hours ago via web in reply to insidebayarea
Our columnist Tony Hicks @insertfoot says please don’t come to his door to talk about religion http://bit.ly/bYQdbn How about you?
August 18th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Obviously a very slow day.
August 18th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Schilens and DMAC watching practice again. Doubtful they play Saturday huh.
Hope they are ready when the “Lights Come On”
Raider youngsters miss practice like they are seasoned veterans.
Only Zach Miller, JLH and Figurs getting consistent time with Campbell……can;t get timing down watching practice and hanging out with trainers
August 18th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
oh, Louis Murphy doing his thing too
August 18th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
After watching the OAK/DAL game several times I decided I watch some other AFC west games to pass the time before the Chicago game later this week. Basically after watching Den, KC, and SD play I quickly came to the conclusion that we are one Philip Rivers injury away from being AFC west champs. Go Raiders
P.S. Al please trade for Logan Mankins (regardless of cost)
P.S.S. One more thing Al, After Chaz signs injury settlement can you PLZ get us a solid veteran possesion receiver. He doesn’t have to be fast either
August 18th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
*would
August 18th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Louis Murphy for president!
August 18th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
At least Vice president, Nnamdi can be president
August 18th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
August 18th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
10 minutes ago – Backup TE Brandon Myers left Wednesday afternoon’s practice early after injuring a finger. He had X-rays taken, but the results have yet to be released. Raiders RapidReports
August 18th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Also on Tafur’s twitter:
“DHB giving pointers to Ford on side.”
Love to be in earshot of that one.
August 18th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
edward teach Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Also on Tafur’s twitter:
“DHB giving pointers to Ford on side.”
Love to be in earshot of that one.
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DHB’s advice- Do the exact opposite of me last year.
August 18th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Tonights practice
http://www.raidernationstation.com/camp_2010
August 18th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
367. Ouch! lol!
August 18th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Way to go Hairy. Nice find!
August 18th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
thanx
August 18th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
“Last year I could get away with it because the QB couldn’t hit me if he tried. This year I think they expect us to actaully catch some of them.”
August 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Nnamdi to play the whole field posted at noon today. Wow, CBS is all over it huh?
http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23961810
August 18th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Three horns … It’s over about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Miller also had TDs from Campbell and Boller again about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur
Boller fires in 20-yarder to Watkins for TD, then shows a little touch on scoring toss to Miller about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
August 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
We miss Jerry…
August 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
My opinion with the running back “dilemma”- (as to who we should keep, Bennett or Rock). I would rather keep Bennett and Cartwright, and one less wideout. I figure keep the people you know have some talent and you know you have good depth as well as possible trade bait at that position. Let’s face it, if we cut our 5th or 6th wideout, teams aren’t exactly going to jump on them. If we are short at WR during the season due to injury, I personally think basically anyone would be better off the waiver wire compared to any of our wideouts not named Murphy. DHB I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt this once. Chazerella I wish it could of been.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Nnamdi to play the whole field posted at noon today. Wow, CBS is all over it huh?
http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23961810
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Nice to see the Raiders getting some coverage
August 18th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Moving Nnamdi around makes sense. Its too bad others can’t figure out the benefit of keeping him on one side too. It COMPLETELY shuts down half the field. May not be the most exciting but by gawd its effective. 28 passes his direction last year?
Shut down…
I am happy to see him moving around. Should be exciting I hope.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
37. Yeah, they got some media coverage but its usually back handed. This Josh A hole says:
“So yeah, it makes sense to unleash the second-best CB in the game and let him earn his $15 million salary against the best.
Man, the Raiders should have thought of this years ago.”
Guarantee you this guy never played a single down of football.
Doesn’t understand the benefit of Nnamdi selflessly taking away a massive portion of the field.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Why the **** do people post links to Bleacher Report like it means anything?
If I wanna read some nobodies opinion I’ll go to a blog.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Moving Nnamdi around makes sense. Its too bad others can’t figure out the benefit of keeping him on one side too. It COMPLETELY shuts down half the field. May not be the most exciting but by gawd its effective. 28 passes his direction last year?
Shut down…
I am happy to see him moving around. Should be exciting I hope.
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I understand it shuts down one half of the field, but when you got the #1 wideout on the other side lighting up Chris Johnson, it is kind of a moot point IMO.
I love Nnamdi and think he has even more to offer the team as far as making more impact plays given the opportunity. Mr. Revis watch out, Nnamdi will be claiming his #1 DB title back!
August 18th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
“So yeah, it makes sense to unleash the second-best CB in the game and let him earn his $15 million salary against the best.
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more motivation for Nnamdi. (not that he needs it!)
Nnamdi= super intelligent, self motivated guy.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Chris Johnson and Stan Routt “dueling” for roster spot.
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_15809494?source=rss&nclick_check=1
Oh Steve…
Despite the party line quotes Routt has sucked azz this off season and Chris Johnson’s been on the sidelines ALOT after an very impressive early camp.
Ugh…
August 18th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
382. Word!
August 18th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Mike Huff at CB anyone?
Mitchell and Branch at safety
August 18th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Routt is better on the outside than in the slot.
Chris Johnson frustates me. I’m hoping with Nnamdi possibly relieving Johnson of some of his duties this season he won’t get burnt quite so much.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# HairyBush Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.
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Damn Hairy, you are brutal. A guy suks one dik and gets labeled as a ckskr. I’m surprised you aren’t calling Tommy Kelly out or flashin’ his arse last year. LMAO
August 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Jerry, what the hell!! Going to the forty-whiners??!!
It’s Wednesday evening and I have to go to Vittorio Tafur’s twitter because Steve Corkran is dropping the ball!!!
August 18th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# HairyBush Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.
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Damn Hairy, you are brutal. A guy suks one dik and gets labeled as a ckskr. I’m surprised you aren’t calling Tommy Kelly out or flashin’ his arse last year. LMAO
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I was traumatized by the Tommy Kelly “incident” last year. I may not be able to sleep now. lol
Although I am looking foward to Houston ripping some heads off this year.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Who’s going to be the biggest surprise not making the 53?
I’ll say Schilens…
August 18th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Unfortunetley I think Schilens will be more like Sam Williams than Arman Sheilds as far as how long his Raider tenure lasts.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
It’s to Bad him and DMAC cant get them self healthy.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Actually, I expect Shilens to be put on IR this year – give him time to heal once & for all.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Biggest surprise to not make roster…Stanford Routt and then I would say JLH
August 18th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Actually, I expect Shilens to be put on IR this year – give him time to heal once & for all.
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When you say once and for all, you mean…
just kidding, I would love to see him and Darren get healthy. my gut keeps telling me diffrent though.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Chazerella’s career will be over before it really got started. Maybe because his name is Chaz, there has to be bad karma just for having that name in the first place
August 18th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
The once & for all means no more excuses. Come back next year & excel or there’s no tomorrow, you will be history.
August 18th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
This is how it will shake out in my eyes- (reception wise)
1)Z. MIller
2)Murphy
3) Mcfadden (perhaps wishful thinking
4)DHB
5)vereran wideout we sign eventually
6)Nick MIller
August 18th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
The rest of our wideouts will be playing with Ronald Curry and the Omaha nighthawks. (except Jacoby)
August 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
The once & for all means no more excuses. Come back next year & excel or there’s no tomorrow, you will be histo
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I like it, A firm general manager!
shape up or ship out!
August 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
The only way I can see Routt not making it is due to him being traded. JLH’s future will be dependent on his level of aggressiveness and how he performs the remainder of the preseason. He is NOT a sure thing in my book.
August 18th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Is Saturday’s game in Chicago televised in the Bay Area? When, what channel/network?
August 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
The only way I can see Routt not making it is due to him being traded. JLH’s future will be dependent on his level of aggressiveness and how he performs the remainder of the preseason. He is NOT a sure thing in my book.
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Do you think the whole 1st and 3rd round tender was a ploy to make him seem more important to other teams when it did come time to possibly shop him as trade bait?
August 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
JLH is permanetley shell shocked!
August 18th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Is Saturday’s game in Chicago televised in the Bay Area? When, what channel/network?
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I live across the country so I have to watch it when thet replay it on NFLN
August 18th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
night fellas
August 19th, 2010 at 9:35 am
HairyBush Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
JB Says:
August 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
The only way I can see Routt not making it is due to him being traded. JLH’s future will be dependent on his level of aggressiveness and how he performs the remainder of the preseason. He is NOT a sure thing in my book.
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Do you think the whole 1st and 3rd round tender was a ploy to make him seem more important to other teams when it did come time to possibly shop him as trade bait?
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Anyone have an opinion on this?