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Notes and quotes from Tuesday’s P.M. practice

By Steve Corkran
Tuesday, August 17th, 2010 at 7:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

– Backup quarterback Charlie Frye on Wednesday will undergo a surgical procedure to repair an unspecified injury in his right wrist, coach Tom Cable said.

Frye hurt his wrist Aug. 5 and hasn’t practiced since. Cable said he isn’t sure how long Frye will be out of action.

Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski have been getting increased reps during Frye’s absence. Boller even received a great deal of time with the second-team offense Tuesday.

Don’t make too much out of that, though, Cable warned.

“Bruce isn’t back (from pectoral surgery) all the way yet,” Cable said Tuesday. “We’re bringing him back. That’s really more the issue than anything.”

Still, Boller looked sharp, including back-to-back scoring strikes to tight end Zach Miller.

– Undrafted free agent Alex Daniels made it in the latest issue of Sports Illustrated for his quote about being willing to block for President Obama if that’s what it takes to make the Raiders roster.

Apparently, things are going well, for more than S.I. are taking notice.

On Tuesday, Daniels received a one-on-one audience with managing general partner Al Davis for several minutes after practice.

This came a few minutes after coach Tom Cable singled him out as the one undrafted free agent who has caught his eye the first three weeks of training camp.

“There’s been some guys who have shown up,” Cable said. “I think about guys like Alex Daniels and his move to fullback. He’s learning it, figuring it out. Physically, he looks to have all the tools to be able to maybe help us there. I think that’s the guy that probably stands out in my mind as much as anybody right now.”

Cable said Daniels will receive his first playing time in an NFL game Saturday night against the Chicago Bears.

– Wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey (rest) and Chaz Schilens (foot), running back Darren McFadden (hamstring) and cornerback Chris Johnson (undisclosed, though he came up lame in practice Monday) missed the lone practice.

– McFadden was spotted jogging around the two practice fields while his teammates practiced. Afterward, McFadden said he is making progress toward a return to the field, though he isn’t able to display the burst he is known for.

“At this point it’s something I just need to take care of just so I don’t have to deal with it all season,” McFadden said. “So, I’d rather get it healthy now and then it won’t bother me all season.”
 
As for this Saturday night’s game against the Chicago Bears, McFadden said he hasn’t ruled it out just yet.

“Well, right now, we’re just playing it day by day until I feel like I get the chance where I can open all the way up and then try to see what I can do,” McFadden said.

– Davis attended a practice for the fifth time since training camp practices started July 29. He watched from a golf cart parked between the two fields.

Afterward, Davis left the field as a passenger in the cart. A handful of fans screamed Davis’ name as if they were seeing one of the Beatles stroll past their front yard. Davis acknowledged the love with a slight wave of his right hand.

– This camp has been relatively devoid of fisticuffs. One of the few altercations occurred Tuesday during a one-on-one pass-blocking drill between center Samson Satele and defensive tackle William Joseph.

Satele blocked Joseph to the ground with both arms and then delivered a knockout blow as Joseph attempted to get to his feet. From there, it was on.

Joseph started swinging at Satele once he got to his feet, and Satele responded in kind as numerous offensive and defensive linemen intervened to calm down the situation.

– Wide receiver Louis Murphy said he has made it a point to keep his emotions in check this year, something he struggled doing as a rookie last year.

On Tuesday, Murphy struggled with a case of the dropsies that he typically avoids. At one point, he slammed his helmet against a water cooler, sat down and contemplated his not-so-good day.

Quarterback Jason Campbell and tight end Zach Miller walker over and talked things out with Murphy. On the bright side, Murphy made a nice catch of a deep pass over cornerback Stanford Routt.

– One particularly clueless fan shouted at a player as he exited the locker room and headed for the team hotel. “Charlie Frye!”

“Nope, I’m Kyle Boller,” Boller said, as he laughed.

For the record, there’s no resemblance between Boller and Frye other than the fact they both play quarterback. Boller should have told the fan to buy a program that features mug shots of all the players.

Kudos to Boller for taking it in stride and going over to sign autographs anyway.

– Rookie Jared Veldheer worked at left offensive tackle with the second-team offense for most of practice, while Chris Morris handled the center duties.

Veldheer is alternating between offensive tackle and center as a means of making himself more versatile and therefore more valuable to the Raiders as a backup.

Cable is adamant that his offensive linemen be able to play more than one position once the regular season starts because only two or three extra offensive linemen are activated for a game.

– Running back Rock Cartwright beat strong safety Tyvon Branch on a corner route for a 30-yard touchdown from quarterback Jason Campbell. Yet another example of Cartwright’s versatility as a runner, receiver and kick returner. It’s that versatility that is catching the eyes of his coaches and making him a strong candidate to make the roster as a backup to McFadden and Michael Bush.

– Cable said he won’t make determinations on playing time and such for the Bears game until later this week. However, he offered this snipped about one area he expects to see improvement.

“I am encouraged (by the protection), but as we talked about after the game, we need to get going a little quicker and sustain some drives,” Cable said. “Third down was really the biggest negative out of that football game. There was some good things in terms of protection. I thought in the second half running the ball with some efficiency. But I’d like to see us get started just a little bit quicker.”

– For as good as cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha has been the past three seasons, in particular, he has room to get even better, Cable said.

“Just being more complete,” Cable said of what Asomugha needs to work on. “I know that’s where he’s chasing, is to try to be complete and try to be the best. It takes doing what he’s doing. He kind of refocuses himself, and don’t be afraid to find your weaknesses. You know them before anybody else does. Don’t before to find them and work at it. And I think that’s what sets him apart. I think he’s able to do that every year.”

As for what sets apart Asomugha from most every other cornerback not named Darrelle Revis, Cable said: “Just the fact that he’s intelligent. He’s not afraid to say, ‘This is something I need to get better at.’ He doesn’t feel like he’s arrived or any of that stuff. He continues to thirst to be good, to be as good as he can be.”

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  • Glutten for Punishment

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Denver keeps getting screwed with injuries. The J McD curse i tell ya. Look what happened to Ol Brady boy when he was his OC!

  • Nnamdi21

    351. Glutten,

    They sat SEVENTEEN guys this last practice. Bwah ha ha! Hate see guys get hurt but gawd I loathe the Broncos.

    Not just Shan rat and the team being division rivals. Their fans can be quite the A holes…not that the Nation is a bunch of cream puffs but still…

  • JB

    Mitchell would have had Bennett for loss (if pads) less than 5 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone

    # Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur

    Big John Henderson gets up and almost picks off Brennan pass 1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone

    # Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur

    Ware working with first-team nickel defense 7 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

    # Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur

    Ricky Brown with a pick; don’t see him getting cut 8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

  • JB

    Is this the year that Sam Williams – LB, finally meets the Turk?

  • itzSteve

    Off topic from Twitter:

    DamonBruce – Raquel, no contest. RT @DRey2531: @pcon34 Raquel Welch at 45, J Lo at 35 or Kim Kardashian rite now. @DamonBruce

    _________________

    That’s a tough call…

  • JB

    Off topic from twitter

    JB6427 says Just answer the door naked. They’ll go away! LOL

    about 6 hours ago via web in reply to insidebayarea

    Our columnist Tony Hicks @insertfoot says please don’t come to his door to talk about religion http://bit.ly/bYQdbn How about you?

  • JB

    Obviously a very slow day.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Schilens and DMAC watching practice again. Doubtful they play Saturday huh.

    Hope they are ready when the “Lights Come On”

    Raider youngsters miss practice like they are seasoned veterans.

    Only Zach Miller, JLH and Figurs getting consistent time with Campbell……can;t get timing down watching practice and hanging out with trainers

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    oh, Louis Murphy doing his thing too

  • HairyBush

    After watching the OAK/DAL game several times I decided I watch some other AFC west games to pass the time before the Chicago game later this week. Basically after watching Den, KC, and SD play I quickly came to the conclusion that we are one Philip Rivers injury away from being AFC west champs. Go Raiders

    P.S. Al please trade for Logan Mankins (regardless of cost)

    P.S.S. One more thing Al, After Chaz signs injury settlement can you PLZ get us a solid veteran possesion receiver. He doesn’t have to be fast either :)

  • HairyBush

    *would

  • HairyBush

    Louis Murphy for president!

  • HairyBush

    At least Vice president, Nnamdi can be president

  • HairyBush

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • HairyBush

    10 minutes ago – Backup TE Brandon Myers left Wednesday afternoon’s practice early after injuring a finger. He had X-rays taken, but the results have yet to be released. Raiders RapidReports

  • edward teach

    Also on Tafur’s twitter:

    “DHB giving pointers to Ford on side.”

    Love to be in earshot of that one.

  • HairyBush

    edward teach Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    Also on Tafur’s twitter:

    “DHB giving pointers to Ford on side.”

    Love to be in earshot of that one.
    —————————–
    DHB’s advice- Do the exact opposite of me last year.

  • Nnamdi21
  • Nnamdi21

    367. Ouch! lol!

  • Nnamdi21

    Way to go Hairy. Nice find!

  • HairyBush

    thanx

  • edward teach

    “Last year I could get away with it because the QB couldn’t hit me if he tried. This year I think they expect us to actaully catch some of them.”

  • Nnamdi21

    Nnamdi to play the whole field posted at noon today. Wow, CBS is all over it huh?

    http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23961810

  • JB

    Three horns … It’s over about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

    # Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur

    Miller also had TDs from Campbell and Boller again about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

    # Vittorio Tafur VittorioTafur

    Boller fires in 20-yarder to Watkins for TD, then shows a little touch on scoring toss to Miller about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

  • Nnamdi21

    We miss Jerry…

  • HairyBush

    My opinion with the running back “dilemma”- (as to who we should keep, Bennett or Rock). I would rather keep Bennett and Cartwright, and one less wideout. I figure keep the people you know have some talent and you know you have good depth as well as possible trade bait at that position. Let’s face it, if we cut our 5th or 6th wideout, teams aren’t exactly going to jump on them. If we are short at WR during the season due to injury, I personally think basically anyone would be better off the waiver wire compared to any of our wideouts not named Murphy. DHB I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt this once. Chazerella I wish it could of been.

  • HairyBush

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    Nnamdi to play the whole field posted at noon today. Wow, CBS is all over it huh?

    http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23961810
    ——————–
    Nice to see the Raiders getting some coverage

  • Nnamdi21

    Moving Nnamdi around makes sense. Its too bad others can’t figure out the benefit of keeping him on one side too. It COMPLETELY shuts down half the field. May not be the most exciting but by gawd its effective. 28 passes his direction last year?

    Shut down…

    I am happy to see him moving around. Should be exciting I hope.

  • Nnamdi21

    37. Yeah, they got some media coverage but its usually back handed. This Josh A hole says:

    “So yeah, it makes sense to unleash the second-best CB in the game and let him earn his $15 million salary against the best.

    Man, the Raiders should have thought of this years ago.”

    Guarantee you this guy never played a single down of football.

    Doesn’t understand the benefit of Nnamdi selflessly taking away a massive portion of the field.

  • Nnamdi21

    Why the **** do people post links to Bleacher Report like it means anything?

    If I wanna read some nobodies opinion I’ll go to a blog.

  • HairyBush

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
    Moving Nnamdi around makes sense. Its too bad others can’t figure out the benefit of keeping him on one side too. It COMPLETELY shuts down half the field. May not be the most exciting but by gawd its effective. 28 passes his direction last year?

    Shut down…

    I am happy to see him moving around. Should be exciting I hope.
    —————————————–
    I understand it shuts down one half of the field, but when you got the #1 wideout on the other side lighting up Chris Johnson, it is kind of a moot point IMO.
    I love Nnamdi and think he has even more to offer the team as far as making more impact plays given the opportunity. Mr. Revis watch out, Nnamdi will be claiming his #1 DB title back!

  • HairyBush

    “So yeah, it makes sense to unleash the second-best CB in the game and let him earn his $15 million salary against the best.
    —————————
    more motivation for Nnamdi. (not that he needs it!)
    Nnamdi= super intelligent, self motivated guy.

  • Nnamdi21

    Chris Johnson and Stan Routt “dueling” for roster spot.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_15809494?source=rss&nclick_check=1

    Oh Steve…

    Despite the party line quotes Routt has sucked azz this off season and Chris Johnson’s been on the sidelines ALOT after an very impressive early camp.

    Ugh…

  • Nnamdi21

    382. Word!

  • HairyBush

    Mike Huff at CB anyone?

    Mitchell and Branch at safety

  • HairyBush

    Routt is better on the outside than in the slot.
    Chris Johnson frustates me. I’m hoping with Nnamdi possibly relieving Johnson of some of his duties this season he won’t get burnt quite so much.

  • HairyBush

    I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.

  • JB

    # HairyBush Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.
    **********************

    Damn Hairy, you are brutal. A guy suks one dik and gets labeled as a ckskr. I’m surprised you aren’t calling Tommy Kelly out or flashin’ his arse last year. LMAO

  • Oak-Tone

    Jerry, what the hell!! Going to the forty-whiners??!!
    It’s Wednesday evening and I have to go to Vittorio Tafur’s twitter because Steve Corkran is dropping the ball!!!

  • HairyBush

    JB Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    # HairyBush Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    I guess I would take the above guys over Hiram “I like to take big stiff arms and be really embarassed on national TV” eugene.
    **********************

    Damn Hairy, you are brutal. A guy suks one dik and gets labeled as a ckskr. I’m surprised you aren’t calling Tommy Kelly out or flashin’ his arse last year. LMAO
    ————————–
    I was traumatized by the Tommy Kelly “incident” last year. I may not be able to sleep now. lol
    Although I am looking foward to Houston ripping some heads off this year.

  • JB

    Who’s going to be the biggest surprise not making the 53?

    I’ll say Schilens…

  • HairyBush

    Unfortunetley I think Schilens will be more like Sam Williams than Arman Sheilds as far as how long his Raider tenure lasts.

  • HairyBush

    It’s to Bad him and DMAC cant get them self healthy.

  • JB

    Actually, I expect Shilens to be put on IR this year – give him time to heal once & for all.

  • HairyBush

    Biggest surprise to not make roster…Stanford Routt and then I would say JLH

  • HairyBush

    JB Says:
    August 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    Actually, I expect Shilens to be put on IR this year – give him time to heal once & for all.
    ————————-
    When you say once and for all, you mean…

    just kidding, I would love to see him and Darren get healthy. my gut keeps telling me diffrent though.

  • HairyBush

    Chazerella’s career will be over before it really got started. Maybe because his name is Chaz, there has to be bad karma just for having that name in the first place :)

  • JB

    The once & for all means no more excuses. Come back next year & excel or there’s no tomorrow, you will be history.

  • HairyBush

    This is how it will shake out in my eyes- (reception wise)

    1)Z. MIller
    2)Murphy
    3) Mcfadden (perhaps wishful thinking
    4)DHB
    5)vereran wideout we sign eventually
    6)Nick MIller

  • HairyBush

    The rest of our wideouts will be playing with Ronald Curry and the Omaha nighthawks. (except Jacoby)