49ers, Raiders camps not all that different
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 20th, 2010 at 10:24 am in Oakland Raiders.
You half expect to see players wheeled away on stretchers, with choppers at the ready to bring the wounded to a trauma center, so fearsome is the reputation of Camp Singletary .
It’s not that way, of course, although I got an admittedly small sample size seeing three 49ers practices (two in shorts and shells, one in pads) on Tuesday and Wednesday doing some sub work for 49ers beat writer Dan Brown.
In fact, a 49ers session isn’t really all that much different from the Raiders practice I watched Thursday in terms of intensity.
A few contrasts and observations, worthwhile in that the two teams play a week from Saturday in Oakland and in the regular season Oct. 17 in San Francisco:
—Apparently the only par or better NFL passing game in the state of California is in San Diego . Saw Alex Smith throw an interception to Nate Clements on his first seven-on-seven drill, an interception to Patrick Willis on his first pass in a team drill, and a later deflected interception to Clements in the end zone.
I’m told this was a good day.
An NFL personnel guy I respect once told me Smith could some day be a decent NFL quarterback so long as he played in a system that allowed him to work primarily between the hashmarks and minimize the amount of deep outs and other passes he doesn’t throw well. His weaknesses were hidden in the spread offense Smith ran at Utah.
Based on visual evidence, sounds about right.
—If you didn’t know anything about Smith, David Carr or Jason Campbell, watched them practice and then were asked to determine the No. 1 pick of the draft, the last answer you’d come up with would be “Smith and Carr.’’
Smith’s issues I already addressed. Carr has a strange delivery I’d forgotten about from a training camp trip to Houston with the Raiders a few years back. He throws it from his chest, at a low arm angle. Campbell’s the classic, angular dropback thrower who throws a beautiful ball and also has good mobility.
– No sign of the “Nutcracker’’ in the practices I saw, but I’m told it’s not the get-after-it session it’s reputed to be, more of a Greco-Roman leverage-fest.
The fact is, the 49ers are even more diligent about keeping players off the ground than the Raiders, and jump all over anyone who exceeds the whistle by a fraction.
Lamarr Houston would get yelled at a lot more in Santa Clara .
And 49ers assistants do yell _ defensive line coach Jim Tomsula and tight ends coach Pete Hoener in particular. Other than offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, and to a lesser extent, secondary coach Kevin Ross, Raiders coaches are more instructors than screamers.
– Wide receiver Michael Crabtree didn’t practice other than running a few routes during drills after a neck injury although he looked fine. Veteran players _ even some who haven’t been around long _ get days off called “veteran courtesy.”
– Singletary is a lot like Cable in that he is detatched for long periods of time. But unlike Cable, who goes in to work with his specialty from time to time, Singletary never went near the linebackers.
The only thing I him say was, “Catch the ball, son’’ after a dropped pass.
Like Cable, Singletary brings the team together after practice for a final talk, but is mostly content to watch.
They even talk the same. When asked about drills which pitted running back Frank Gore with linebacker Kevin Willis, Singletary said it was “because iron sharpens iron.”
Cable, referring to tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly working against Robert Gallery and Cooper Carlisle, said “it’s like iron sharpening iron.”
– Forty-Niners receivers as a group make a lot more effort to come back for a pass and fight for the ball than do Raiders receivers.
The 49ers have one intriguing talent in Dominique Zeigler, a second-year receiver who made a number of plays in the three practices I saw.
– It’s easier to cover 49ers training camp from a practice perspective because you can move up and down the sideline and aren’t confined to a penalty box.
It’s harder to cover a 49ers training camp from an interview perspective because all their players come off at the same time and head to a closed locker room. You have to depend on the P.R. staff to get players to wait until podium sessions are done _ and some naturally don’t want to wait.
In Napa , Cable talks at the podium after practice, then players go to the field house to work out and trickle out gradually, one of the best situations in terms of player access in the league.
—I talked to 49ers offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye on my second day at a 49ers practice. It’s Day 206 and Jackson’s public vision of the Raiders offense goes unstated.
– The fan element makes for a much different atmosphere. One of the sessions I saw was open to the public, and fans cheer and root for the players as if they’re in a game. Some Raiders practices may have a couple hundred fans as invited guests, but they’re lectured before hand to stay quiet and and not cheer or attempt to communicate with players.
HEYWARD-BEY AND FATIGUE
The last time I saw Darrius Heyward-Bey practice, he missed the last few plays of a goal line session and was talking with a trainer, moving his upper body as if trying to get comfortable and ever-so-slightly reaching with a hand behind his left leg.
Got to be the hamstring, right?
If that’s the case, then why wouldn’t Heyward-Bey be rehabbing during practice like Darren McFadden, Chris Johnson and Paul Hubbard, the other players with hamstring issues? Those three are gone for most of practice, wandering out only occasionally to see what’s going on.
One of the worst things you can do with any muscle pull is to simply stand around and watch, letting it tighten up further. Heyward-Bey has done exactly that in each of the four practices he missed.
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August 20th, 2010 at 10:25 am
1st!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Make the Me the Leader of the Green Party!!!
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done
Raider O = Green Party chairman
August 20th, 2010 at 10:28 am
RR,
When I’m talking Majority/Minority: I’m talking in terms of power and not #s.
Go Read Any Book! It can only help you Podunkian!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Oh man, Priesttj is gonna be pizzed…Jerry didn’t sound too much like a 49ers fan!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Thank You.
I will never forget this honor! I’m going to cry. My dream came true!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 10:26 am
DHB is hurt, and Al is covering for him.
That’s my two cents. The DHB experiment has been Al’s hand-held little pet project from day one.
Drafted too high, forced to start, out with some bogus injury late last year, the press release detailing how great he is “working” in the offseason, and now this “fatigue” with a giant wrap around his leg.
Where’s MaddenRaider when you actually need him!!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
I wonder if tj can look at still photos and tell us whats wrong with DHB
August 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Go Read Any Book! It can only help you Podunkian!
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Yeah, Scott, start with “My Pet Goat” that one enthralled your idol on an important day!!! lol
August 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Still, I have DHB for 5-6 TD’s this year.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Cable, referring to tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly working against Robert Gallery and Cooper Carlisle, said “it’s like iron sharpening iron.”
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uh oh. Cooper Carlisle = iron?
Jwigg: what about RG Beast Campbell ???
August 20th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Reality makes it so, Lako, see you here in Nov.
I’m off to lunch gang.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I want to see on the DL, Houston, Kelly, Henderson, Seymour. Shaughnessy & Bryant rotating in, solid!
The end.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Singletary and Cable both strike me as the some type of coaches.
All rah-rah and grunt types, not real advanced on the X and O’s what-so-ever, and lots of blank stares during the game.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Jerry,
How many times do I have to tell you that anything you write can and will be used agaist you by the hacks at PFT. They are having a field day with the DHB article.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Enjoy your lunch TW.
We will Win in November! Print that!!
-Alcohol is the worst drug introduced to us humans and it’s legal.
My drugs are non of your business!!!
Legalize it!!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:41 am
back to work. lunch break is up.
i’ll try to catch up with you city slickers later on
August 20th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Podunkian,
You are by far one of my fav poster in here. Preppie is close, but you are special! lol
August 20th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Second round draft pick Lamarr Houston isn’t unknown to Raider fans. After the first quarter last Thursday, the Cowboys and their fans know who he is too. Houston got two sacks against the Cowboys’ starters.
Houston comes from the University of Texas where he put up better statistics than both Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy, although Houston got none of the press. Why is this important to Raider fans? Because now Houston has something to prove.
A chip on the shoulder of a 300 pound former fullback is a dangerous thing for opponents.
Already cemented as the starter at left defensive end, Houston has immediately improved the Raiders anemic run defense. The Cowboys got just 66 yards rushing and averaged only three yards per attempt. This was due in no small part to Houston locking down the point of attack on his side.
There is no reason whatsoever to think that Houston can’t put up some serious numbers and shock the non-Raider NFL world.
The Final Word…
August 20th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Probably went too far with that one, sorry mods, I am done with it.
DHB is hurt!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:53 am
DHB is obviously hurt but why the smoke screen? Its not like we are in the reg season where you keep things from opponent. They need to get JC in tune with somebody besides Murphy & JLH
Strange!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Some of you here ate as ignorant as they can be. Be all you can be!! lol
LMAO
August 20th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Agree that irons sharpen irons. The best way to get DHB ready is to line him up against Namndi all day every day.
This DHB out for a week, fatigue thing is concerning.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Vegas, relax, inhale, exhale…take a chill pill!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Jerry you frikken RULE!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
O, move to Isreal.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Some of you here need be more informed. No wonder other people around the world view us as an Ignorant nation.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Nothing but love for you homie….
I forgot to mention, as of this month I’ve relocated to beautiful Southern California!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Dirt,
Move to Europe!! Are you Native American?!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:01 am
yo
August 20th, 2010 at 11:01 am
No, and no.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Congrats Ray!!
Back home for you right?
August 20th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Las Vegas is in worse shape its ever been! It was time to pull out, while I still was standing.
So don’t feel bad, I’m with you on this!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Then STFU, and enjoy being an immigrant just like the rest of us.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Im not an immigrant I reside where I was born. If you are impressed with free HC @ Isreal you should go there, or STFU
August 20th, 2010 at 11:07 am
“I reside where I was born”, so you think that doesn’t make you an immigrant.
You are too stupid to have an argument..
LMFAO
Later Gents. You too Monkeys!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Yes.
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Raider O Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:07 am
“I reside where I was born”, so you think that doesn’t make you an immigrant.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Home sweet home…
Nothing like the Cali green!
and I plan on being there for the home opener, where I know we wont choke.
Just win already!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:17 am
” I reside where I was born!”
That is so true, I’m back in L.A.!!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Javon Walker is working out for the Vikings hoping to be reunited with Favre. That should be interesting.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
” I smoke two jays in the morning, I smoke two jays at night, I smoke two jays in the afternoon…it makes me feel alright! ”
August 20th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Jerry is a doctor now. Cool!!!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:28 am
r8eray Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
” I smoke two jays in the morning, I smoke two jays at night, I smoke two jays in the afternoon…it makes me feel alright! ”
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Do you smoke jays before you play video game?
August 20th, 2010 at 11:30 am
raidertay Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Javon Walker is working out for the Vikings hoping to be reunited with Favre. That should be interesting.
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I think Javon should catch another beating just for considering returning to football!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:30 am
LMBO if this @$$ gets on that team and plays decent and wins a Superbowl ring with Grandpa Favre I will be pissed.
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raidertay Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Javon Walker is working out for the Vikings hoping to be reunited with Favre. That should be interesting.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:30 am
r8eray Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
” I smoke two jays in the morning, I smoke two jays at night, I smoke two jays in the afternoon…it makes me feel alright! ”
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Goin to see them Monday night!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I was just watching Pats/Atl game. G. Warren, D Burgess both starting on D. (and doing pretty good.) Then there is Moss lighting up DB’s. If J.Walker plays and does well for a team not named the Raiders I am going to be mad. Sick of former Raiders going elsewhere and stepping up there game!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:36 am
dunkingonuts Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Jerry,
How many times do I have to tell you that anything you write can and will be used agaist you by the hacks at PFT. They are having a field day with the DHB article.
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Who reads PFT?! lol! They are hacktackular…
August 20th, 2010 at 11:36 am
talk to guys later, the wife is b!tcheen! time to leave and pretend like I did something today!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
60. Warren’s never lived up to his 1st rnd draft status and is always injured. Burgess was forced out of retirment and Lamont Jordan sucked there and in Denver.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Raiders being convservative and keeping their guys healthy for the regs. Wouldn’t worry too much yet…
August 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
60. Warren’s never lived up to his 1st rnd draft status and is always injured. Burgess was forced out of retirment and Lamont Jordan sucked there and in Denver.
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Warren will be better with Pats.
IMHO Burgess “retiring” was a way to evade a little bit of training camp. We all know from his Raider days he did not like to practice/work out with the team.
I am aware of the Pats injury situation on defense so it can definetley look like Burgess came out of “retirerment” out of neccesity (sp?). I beleive it was a ploy for the most part.
Well at least I can feel better knowing Lamont hasn’t done jack.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Is it Saturday yet ????!!!!????!!!???
August 20th, 2010 at 11:48 am
I have to wait until 11pm Sun nite on NFLN to watch chicago/Oakland game.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think Routt is going to suprise a lot of you. His weakness is playing the slot, not the outside. Chicago doesn’t really have any WRs that make you stand up and take notice anyway.
On top of that, CJ is already hurt and was hurt a few games last year. We can’t get rid of Routt and just go with the 2 rookies McFadden and Ware. I GUARANTEE you Routt will not make nearly as many mistakes as the rookies.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Stain, seriously?
Finally figure out how to get past the ban stick, and you go right back to your ignorant ways.
The definition of failure has your picture as an example, GG.
August 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Have to wonder what the billion dollars is for?
Talk about having some pictures, lol!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I really like this McFadden kid. Ware didn’t look so hot to me. We really need to have CJ stay healthy!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I guarantee you will see BEAST Campbell on the field sooner than later as a starter!
August 20th, 2010 at 11:57 am
“It would be stupid or ridiculous for anyone to say, ‘You need to hit more’ or anything like that,’’ Cable said. “We’ve already proven who we are that way.’’
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You hear that O?
August 20th, 2010 at 11:59 am
NATION, what is up!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Jerry, could you do us all a favor, let us know if the team had done anything diffrent with the Oline as of late?
August 20th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
It is going to be a radio broadcast only for your buddy, coupled with the wise(azz) ness of the semi-pro’s for me on Sat.
Maybe Jerry can roll in the mud with us again.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
HairyBush Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I was just watching Pats/Atl game. G. Warren, D Burgess both starting on D. (and doing pretty good.) Then there is Moss lighting up DB’s. If J.Walker plays and does well for a team not named the Raiders I am going to be mad. Sick of former Raiders going elsewhere and stepping up there game!
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did some team pick of walker?
August 20th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I am sure it will be on internet TV.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Wassup JFB!
So recap the Jason Campbell talk from the good folks in DC for us, would ya?
August 20th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Have to wonder what the billion dollars is for?
Talk about having some pictures, lol!
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the pictures are of all past presidents being controlled by the “so called jewish” lobby…
we give waaayyyy more than a billion to Israel…
August 20th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
I watched the Dallas game on justin.tv last week. Raiders TV network, so didn’t have to listen to the Cowboy hacks.
The Bears game will probably be on there live.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Nevermind, walker is working out with the vikes…
August 20th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
J,
Everyone (two hard-core ‘Skins fan that are co-workers and the fine bartender at the Dubliner, lol) “liked” JC, blamed the Skins faults not on him, but are certainly happier to have McNabb. Nobody took him task like I do I guess.
One guy specifically made a point to say that they were pissed that they let Rock go. Said he was the type of guy to return a kickoff 50 yards, get a carry or two and than pick up the blitz on 3rd and long, than go down and make the tackle on the kickoff/punt.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
If I have to listen to the opponents announcers,
I will just put the audio on mute…
August 20th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
I’m not a watch it on the internet type of guy.
Throw on Papa on the radio, and maybe get a little organizing done at the same time.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
what was cool about last weeks boradcats, it was in HD. You could hook the lcd, and plasma up as a monitor, and watch…
August 20th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Last weeks broadcast…
August 20th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I’ve heard the Bears announcers before. They’re a lot better than those clowns the Cowboys have.
Butkus does radio for them; not sure about TV.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
That Babe Lafen-whatever the fck it is, was a joke.
I get the Dallas and Denver preseason feed in ‘Burque, and probably won’t watch either of them (although tempted to see what Denver looks like).
August 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I bet you non Raider fans think the same thing about our homer arss broadcast crew.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
JFB,
I’d have to watch a Denver game with either the sound off or with music or something in the background. You know all they’re going to talk about is Tebow.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I miss Bill King!!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
HairyBush Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I was just watching Pats/Atl game. G. Warren, D Burgess both starting on D. (and doing pretty good.) Then there is Moss lighting up DB’s. If J.Walker plays and does well for a team not named the Raiders I am going to be mad. Sick of former Raiders going elsewhere and stepping up there game!
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I saw Warren in person against the Saints last week and he was stout. They’re lining him up at left end in the 3-4. Made a few tackles, but the thing I noticed is that he doesn’t get moved backwards. He had his moments with us, but would too often disappear in games. Something tells me Belicheat will get him to play motivated all the time.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
While Flores is a homer,he isn’t afraid to take players to task if they deserve it.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# edward teach Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I miss Bill King!!!!
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Holy Toledo, I certainly iss him too – especially on a Ball-me night like tonight.
Seriously, he was the best never to be equaled.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
miss
August 20th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
It is a shame Bill isn’t in any announcer HOF-actually it’s a crime.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Bill King for football, Lon Simmons for baseball.
We had it real good for a long time.
August 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
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August 20th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Pito
August 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Got to be the hamstring, right?
If that’s the case, then why wouldn’t Heyward-Bey be rehabbing during practice like Darren McFadden, Chris Johnson and Paul Hubbard, the other players with hamstring issues?
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Good question Jerry.
Hopefully it is not a hamstring, and is, as they say, a “courtesy” day for “fatigue”. Of course people will still be quick to label him “Darrius Hamstring-Bey”. Even though he took some days off from participating in drills, I for one am glad he was at least there watching practice, rather than just resting. At least he is still mentally in the game, so I’m not worried just yet. The “No-Knuckleheads” regime seems to be doing OK in my book.
Frye is gone. Sorry Charlie. Any word on how long Richardson will be out? It sounds like D-mac and DHB will be back in practice next week – but what about Chaz?
and while Jerry brings up the 49ers – It is good to hear the Campbell is the best looking QB in the bay-area. If I were the 49ers, Smith would be #3 on the depth. Carr seems solid, and Kyle Davis (or whatever his name is) always seems to look good in the pre-season. I watched the colts game, and 49ers Offensive firsts had like a punt, an Int., and a fumble on their first three possessions. Apparently, that was all the Colts needed to see, and they put their 2nd stringers in on Defense.
I hate the 49ers.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bill King = BEST EVER!
It’s a crime that he’s not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame…
August 20th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Having satellite radio and livining in other areas, I have heard my fair share of radio/TV announcers.
Bill King was hands down the best, he made June baseball games seem so important.
I think the best current bay area announcer is the Warriors guy, Tim Roye. A cool hoops voice and great flow, if he could just shut the mic off on the other guy that is with him.
Worst announcers I ever heard were the Padres TV guys I got when I lived in Vegas. Got replaced by Dick Enberg this year, but kept the color guy, who had to tone down the college atmosphere a ton with the savy vet next to him now.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I saw Warren in person against the Saints last week and he was stout. They’re lining him up at left end in the 3-4. Made a few tackles, but the thing I noticed is that he doesn’t get moved backwards. He had his moments with us, but would too often disappear in games. Something tells me Belicheat will get him to play motivated all the time.
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does he have the stamina to give 1000% effort the entire game?
August 20th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
C’mon CJ37 – I’ve had your back in here this whole time, man! Don’t get beat out by Routt! That would be a disaster!
Hope I’m wrong about Routt, perhaps he will play better on the outside than the slot – Although one would think that playing on the outside is harder.
If CJ37 is moved to nickel – I won’t be mad – he will be good there too. I all for whatever makes us stronger.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I will tell you what, this D will be playing a lot of smash mouth…That I am certain of…
August 20th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I will tell you what, this D will be playing a lot of smash mouth…That I am certain of…
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Amen, brother.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I have zero confidence in Routt being anything other than a huge step done from CJ.
Not a good tackler in run support (see the complete wiff on Barber last week as exhibit A), zero ball skills, and penalty-prone.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
A step down or a step done…..whatever it is, it will not be good.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
In the seven year drought we just experienced, what year in those seven did we have the defensive unit capable of total annilation of an offensive unit…
tony homo can make all the excuses he wants, but our front 7 beat the SH!t out of dolla$$….
Just speculatin on my part but the way we were playing doubt homo would have lasted that game…
August 20th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Wow, that is comforting, we are similar to the niners. Yipeeee……. fauk
August 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
A step down or a step done…..whatever it is, it will not be good.
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hahahahhahahahahaha….
August 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Wow, that is comforting, we are similar to the niners. Yipeeee……. fauk
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Not bad company considering the niners will win the west this year…
August 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Wow, that is comforting, we are similar to the niners. Yipeeee……. fauk
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Not bad company considering the niners will win the west this year…
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It would be comforting if the NFC west wasn’t the weakest division in football.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Vegas, whats the line on the game Bro?
August 20th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Check out Stan Routt (26) in this dandy game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neX8MeoWQR0
August 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Pitos
August 20th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
No love for Greg Papa. I love listening to him for the Raiders games.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Greg Papa is a great voice for football radio, but I would fall asleep on him when he did the Warriors. Fitz is way better for Hoops play by play.
August 20th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
I knew Bill King. And, Greg Papa is NO Bill King.
Bill was one of a kind. He really got into the action. Aspiring announcers should seek out some of Bill’s recordings and see how it is really done. Bil King could have been a national announcer if he wanted to. But, he was a Bay Area Sports guy. PERIOD
August 20th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
this was another good game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YGM1iJmuA
August 20th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
So, DHB has “fatigue”.
And a bag of fertilizer, is still nothing but a sack of bullsh_t!
August 20th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
hope you guys all have a great weekend.
I’ll be in St Louis with the wife and brother n’ law
90 percent sure i’ll miss the Raider game on Saturday.
please fill me in on Monday.
Go Raiders !!!
August 20th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YGM1iJmuA
August 20th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
I think the thing I liked the best about Biil was that we could be beating somebody by 30 points late in the fourth quarter and he could make it seem like we were in imminent danger of losing the game. And it didn’t sound contrived at all. He genuinely sounded concerned, and as a result I spent most of my time listening to him perched on the edge of my seat and praying. That, and the fact that he was not shy at all about calling out the referees, which he did quite often and in much detail.
My grandfather was a Giants fan and I spent many an afternoon with him in his back yard listening to them on the radio (this is before the A’s came to Oakland). Lon Simmons was the perfect baseball guy. He always sounded like he was just sitting next to you watching the game. No excess chatter, no inane observations, just the ballgame. Lots of silence in between pitches, which was great because you could hear the murmur of the crowd, the pitch hitting the catcher’s mitt, and all the stuff you hear when you’re actually there.
I really miss both of those guys.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
J,
I heard Cable, but I’m not convinced. lol
Look at the Ravens, Jets,etc… They hit, and practice at game speed, and then look at the us!!
You would think we were in the POs, and they finished 5-11 AGAIN!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
The Trib did a great story on King when he passed.
The guy, even though he made some decent coin in his time, would drive the most beat-up cars, and when they broke down, he would just literally leave them there and go buy another clunker, and repeat the cycle.
Some of the best artists, and truly (IMO) the great announcers are artists, are always very eccentric.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Vegas, whats the line on the game Bro?
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I’m pretty out of the loop these days my friend. I know we are 8 points dogs to the Titans week 1.
You excited to see Ford play this weekend? Hope he is returning some punts, and hopefully we don’t get a kicker who kicks it 7 yards into the end zone everytime like last week so we can gauge our KR game.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Not only was DHB drafted high but he came into the league as one of the youngest players in the nfl!! He looked like a wide eyed kid overwhelmed on the big stage. he has talent but it will take time for it to mature and show up on game day. He has learned how to prepare like a pro over this off season, now he is trying to figure out how to do it on sunday. I say this year will be an improvement when he and cambell have a rhythm, about mid season. But the real payoff will be next year and beyond as he becomes a man, and is able to compete physically with the pros.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
JFB,
I didn’t know that about him. I could see it, though.
I agree with you about the great artists, in fact in my experience the most interesting and creative people just can’t do things the way the rest of the world does. More power to ‘em.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Jerry,
All these camps are the same. The difference between a sub .500 team and a playoff team are a few plays.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I believe Al Davis gave an eulogy for Bill King.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Harumph!
August 20th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Have a good weekend er’body!
Go Raiders! (1-0)
August 20th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Watch Javon Walker sign with the Vikings and Farve makes him into the receiver he never was with JaLoser at QB.
August 20th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
VanHeathen Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bill King = BEST EVER!
It’s a crime that he’s not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame…
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Yep!
How Bill King is not in and some kiss ass annoying blowhard like Berman is in the HOF, is a complete sham and joke!
August 20th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
‘Sup fellas.
How’s everybody doin?
August 20th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
I hate thinking about that draft with DHB over Crabtree more than the JaMierda Russell pick!
Taking DHB over guys like Crabtree, Monroe, Harvin, Orakpo, Oher was just utterly stupid!
Thank god…..old man Al didn’t have anything to do with the draft this past year!
He finally woke the hell and allowed his coaches and scouts to work the draft room!
August 20th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Vegas, whats the line on the game Bro?
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I’m pretty out of the loop these days my friend. I know we are 8 points dogs to the Titans week 1.
You excited to see Ford play this weekend? Hope he is returning some punts, and hopefully we don’t get a kicker who kicks it 7 yards into the end zone everytime like last week so we can gauge our KR game.
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You know this…. Looking forward to see if he is going t have the same impact as his stable mate spiller…
August 20th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
We cannot really dwell on the past three drafts as failures. In 2007 we needed a QB it was obvious. Guess who the top two were? Jabustus and Quinn. Neither has proven anything and I am glad we did not go with quinn.
Alternate pick would have been Calvin Johnson who Al Davis himself criticized saying Detroit has not made the playoffs with him either LOL
However I would have loved to have CJ AKA Megatron here with the trade of Moss. We could have taken a QB in 2008 maybe Matty Ice if we had a worse record but he went before we picked.
This year there really were no top RB talents in this class. CJ spiller went 9 and Mathews 12 however I think Bush and DMAC will become a nice SMash and Dash this year.
August 20th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
I had Ford and Rookie of the NATION, but after seeing houston, and Mac, I be changing my tune…
August 20th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Anybody else watchin Hard Knocks?
People give Cable crap about taking the team bowling, hell the Jets have already hit the waterpark and dinner and a movie. Dinner with Scmucks, that is.
The thing with Cromartie and his kids was kinda funny. Sad, but funny.
August 20th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
CJ spiller <——- he is a maker…Has great football speed, and has great swivel…DMAC ad zero swivel in college, and zero in the pros. Not labeling him a bust, he just needs to be used as NO uses rbush…IMHO..
August 20th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
DUI isn’t funny, but…..
Did you hear about the woman in West Virginia that was arrested for DUI in a stolen beer truck?
August 20th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
This years draft is the most sensible we have had in a while….Not going to dwell to much on the past but i will say this, with our D i would be shocked if we dont win the west…
August 20th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Thec,
I hope the O looks better tomorrow night in Chicago. Hopefully Campbell is a little more in synch with his receivers. There’e been a lot of hand wringing in here all week. It was their first action in game setting together. Defenitely room for improvement.
That D did look awfully impressive. But it works hand in hand. Like to see some sustained drives. Keep that D fresh.
It would be nice to see this team actually play with a lead sometime. Force teams to have to pass into the teeth of that defense.
August 20th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I saw on Foxsports.net that Romo has a sore back this week. Bet he does. Houston, Shonasty and co. were giving him a good beaten last Thurs night.
August 20th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
MEDICAL BEY
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
August 20th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
SD giving Vincent Jackson’s agent permission to talk with Seattle about a trade per NFLN.
Very interesting. Get his butt outta the AFC West.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Matty “Ice” has to be one of the stupidest and worst nicknames ever!
August 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Matty “Ice” has to be one of the stupidest and worst nicknames ever!
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Maybe so but the kid’s got a great arm AND can play. I’d take him no mater what the name.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
SD giving Vincent Jackson’s agent permission to talk with Seattle about a trade per NFLN.
Very interesting. Get his butt outta the AFC West.
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I mnetioned jokingly we might be looking at him but 1st,he’s with a division rival and it might take alot to get him. That would help SD. We don’t wan that.
2nd He wants BIG MONEY
3rd he’s got 2 DUI’s to contend with. One more mess up and he’s gone for a year anyway.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
DUI isn’t funny, but…..
Did you hear about the woman in West Virginia that was arrested for DUI in a stolen beer truck?
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my kinda girl…
August 20th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I saw on Foxsports.net that Romo has a sore back this week. Bet he does. Houston, Shonasty and co. were giving him a good beaten last Thurs night.
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“Shonasty” (ugh, talk baout worst nicknames) never touched Romo. Kitna was the recipeint of Shaughnessy’s sacks.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
just like a 49er, copying and trying to make a point your own. not…
use original thoughts, don’t rip off one of mine…..
V
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vshape Says:
August 19th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
is 49ers singletary now quoting raiders cable??
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Interview with Cable 8/2:
Q: Coach what do you think about the offensive line today specifically Robert Gallery?
Coach Cable: Well, I think it’s good you know he and Cooper [Carlisle] have got their hands full in there with Tommy [Kelly] and Richard [Seymour] every snap and I think it’s really a good matchup for our team because they are making each other better. Robert is a really fine, fine player. I think he’s proven that certainly, last year the injuries, he didn’t get the opportunity for him to show it but they go in there and it’s kind of like iron sharpens iron, you know they just work and they grind and they grind and they win some and they lose some and that’s good football that’s how you do it.
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Interview with singletary 8/19:
-Q: Willis and Gore were barking at each other during that drill. Do you like that maybe the best offensive and best defensive player were amping up the volume? Is that good competition? Do you like that?
-SINGLETARY: Yes, I do. Because iron sharpens iron. I think Pat is continuing to work on his third-down skills in terms of his man-to-man coverage. And of course Frank doesn’t feel that anybody can cover him, particularly a linebacker. So that’s always a great match up to see.
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how about being orginal coach singletary?
V
August 20th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Nnamdi,
You are correct, sir. Guess I shoulda just said Houston and co. Geez, sticklers for detail. lol. Houston twice and Scott had the 3rd sack of Romo, Caused the fumble, I believe.
Yes, and Shonasty’s sack of Jack-o-lantern head Kitna sure looked like a you-know-what hair from being a safety.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Point is though, Romo has a sore back after the good beaten The RAIDERS defense gave him. Poor lil fella.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Show- Nasty!!!!
August 20th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Our DL looked Good. Maybe they practice hitting on their own. We all know Cable likes Soft practice.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Anyone see were the Vikes worked out Javon Walker? LMAO!
August 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
143. No worries Buckeye. Shaughnessy had 2 sacks that night.
I think Shonasty might catch on because its a lot easier to spell than Shaughnessy!
Not that it makes a lick fo differencein the real world but on a sim of the 2010 Raiders on Madden in Franchise mode Shonasty had 15 sacks…
August 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
-I don’t think Gallery is great.
-Mario shows flashes of Great Talent, but he is not consistent.
-Walker has problems with speed rushers.
-Cooper & Satele are backups at best!
August 20th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Nnamdi,
Yeah I heard that earlier today. They are hurtin at WR, though. Sidney Rice might be out into reg season with a hip injury. Who knows what’s going on with Harvin and his migraines.
Don’t know who else is out there on the free agent market right now. Plus, he’s an old teammate of Brett’s from back in the day. Who knows. Might be worth a look.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Jamie Dukes: “the Patriots are the gold standard.”
Rich Eisen: “This week’s matchup between the Cowboys and Chargers could be a preview of Super Bowl (whatever he number is).”
Gotta love the NFL Network. lol
August 20th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Wouldn’t it suck from a Raider fan’s point of view, if they signed Walker, and he lit it up for em.
August 20th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I like our Defense a lot, I like our WRs, RBs, and QB, but This OL will cost us!!
If Cable is an OL Gurur, our OL sucks, then What good is having Cable around?
He doesn’t call plays anymore (thank god), he is not involved in the D (from what I hear from JMcD & posters here), so why do we need Cable?
No More Cable!!
August 20th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
edward teach Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Jamie Dukes: “the Patriots are the gold standard.”
Rich Eisen: “This week’s matchup between the Cowboys and Chargers could be a preview of Super Bowl (whatever he number is).”
Gotta love the NFL Network. lol
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Pats are the cheating standard and Eisen is still trying to suck on the choker chargers nuts??
The Dis-Chargers window for the SB is closed!
August 20th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Like I said before….if Cable doesn’t get at least 6 or 7 wins this year and if he doesn’t at least get one win and split against the Chargers this year….he is done.
In will come Jim Harbaugh or Hue Jackson as the Raiders next Head Coach!
August 20th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Bungles didn’t sell out their 2nd preseason game either. Blacked out on local TV 2 weeks in a row.
Fans must not be buying into the T.O hype just yet.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Know why they can’t eat cereal in San diego?
Every time they get near a bowl..they choke
The oldies are the goldies!!
August 20th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I think he should be fired for anything less than 8-8. He hasn’t done a sigle thing in 1.5 seasons.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
DKnight,
I think a better description would have been;
“This week’s matchup between the Cowboys and Chargers features the two teams most likely to win their divisions and face another frustrating early exit from the playoffs.”
Maybe that was plan B in case the announcers couldn’t keep a straight face while they were filming the segment.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
They are making a BIG push in So Cal for SD as our “new home team” but we are not havin it…
Always hated them..Always will..
Go Raiders
August 20th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Buckeyeraider,
I like Cinci, but I don’t think they will in the POs. Palmer is overrated IMHO.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
LMFAO 83.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
83,
I think that’s going to be a major hurdle for them if they look at moving to LA when (if) the new stadium’s built. Lots of Raider fans down there, and while maybe Jacksonville or somebody would be tolerated, I can’t see the Chargers getting much love.
Their current fans are a bunch of bandwagoning pansies and probably wouldn’t trouble themselves to travel to LA and that’s (in my view) another obstacle.
August 20th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
162…very true on all points
The Nation is still strong here..as it always will be.
I just wish the Raiders would get a radio contract again. Have to watch almost all games (execpt pre-season) on the internet
August 20th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
TO with a 43 yard reception.
How many catches does he have now in just a few quarters?
Al should have signed TO
August 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
83,
The Nation is strong. We might fight amongst ourselves from time to time and it hasn’t been the best seven years but we all know what it’s about and when push come to shove, well, you know.
Charger fan has no idea. Raider on, brother.
August 20th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Anyone in here from Chico that knows where I can watch the game?
August 20th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Did everyone get banned or go to jail?
August 20th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
We are all fatigued and taking the night off. If DHB can do it so can we.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Raider guy Says:
August 20th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Anyone in here from Chico that knows where I can watch the game?
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Madison Bear Garden was the spot in the mid 90’s.
August 20th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Now is the time for another test of the new defensive and offensive lines of the Oakland Raiders.
Using a model to see if there can be a measure of “stamina” of teams is a challenge. Looking also at comparisons to simply describe what is and to conjecture what can be is another short-term goal.
On Aug. 21, the Oakland Raiders will play the Chicago Bears. Here is data for the past five years, focusing on the last four games of the regular season.
Chicago
2009 2008 2007 2006 2005
0 5 0 5 0
0 5 0 5 5
5 5 5 5 5
5 0 5 0 0
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Oakland
0 0 0 0 0
5 0 0 0 0
0 5 0 0 0
0 5 0 0 0
Observations
Although the matrix or array of numbers for the Chicago Bears has more nonzero entries, notice that there is a little oscillation in the pattern of the entries.
For example, in 2005 there were only two wins during the last four games.
During 2006, the Bears had three wins out of the four that are focused on in this study.
Again, in 2007, during the last four games, the Bears had only two wins, but in 2008 the wins increased to three.
But the oscillation is present because in 2009, there are only two wins.
So the pattern for wins has a sequence from 2005 to 2009: 2, 3, 2, 3, 2.
In most studies in areas other than sports, the pattern of oscillation is a pattern indicating vibration (or instability) which is caused by perturbation or error. It suggests inconsistencies.
This model points out the presence of inconsistencies in the Chicago Bears. As far as this writer is concerned, this points to vulnerabilities.
So, the Raiders can and will find those weak spots and will deal with them.
Now, when you look at the pattern for the Oakland Raiders, you definitely see improvement in the pattern. In 2007, for example, the Raiders had no wins during the last four games of the season. Then in 2008, a little spunk showed up and the Raiders had two wins during the last four games of the 2008 season.
In 2009, the Raiders had one win out of the last four games of the season. Coupled with the data from 2005 to 2007, the performance during the last four games of 2008 and 2009 certainly was an improvement over 2005 to 2007.
Now that the defensive line has been strengthened and the quarterback corps has multiple personalities to utilize in case of injury or other factors, there is a good chance there will be a surprise performance by the Oakland Raiders.
When you weigh in the stamina demonstrated in the first preseason game, you know that anything is possible on Aug. 21.
Competitions like the one expected on Aug 21 are the kind that draw on intelligence, intensity, stamina, and good coaching. Tom Cable, Hue Jackson, and others must stay on top of the situations that will arise that day.
A Spirit of Determination
Sometimes, the performance of a player or a team is more like the example which I read in another B/R article. It means that some people believe that the spirit of a team can transcend the mere numbers that attempt to measure performance.
“David said moreover, The Lord that delivered me out of the paw of the lion, and out of the paw of the bear, he will deliver me out of the hand of this Philistine.”
Let’s just say that if the coaches have stirred up a spirit of determination and of victory during the final moments of a game, then anything is possible.
The Oakland Raiders have been like a “David” during the history of the franchise. The Raiders have been delivered out of the paw of “the lion,” and it is possible to be delivered out of the paw of the Chicago Bears.
It can be done. So do it! Just win, baby!
August 20th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Raiders 21 Bears 14
August 20th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
RAIDERS 27 Teddy Bears 9
August 20th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Pitolos
August 20th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
PITOLOS DE ALMENDRA
August 20th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Quarterback Charlie Frye sidelined for season
August 20 Oakland Tribune “The Raiders placed backup quarterback Charlie Frye on the injured-reserve list once they learned he is going to need four or five months to rehabilitate his right wrist.
Frye suffered ligament damage in his wrist while bracing himself as he fell during a drill Aug. 5. He underwent surgery Wednesday and is out for the rest of the season.
“I don’t know enough about it to give you details,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “It’s a ligament (injury) in the wrist that is very rare.”
Frye’s misfortune is Kyle Boller’s good fortune. Boller was signed as a free agent in June as an extra quarterback to take reps in camp. Now he’s in line to make the 53-man roster.
“He’s getting a new start, and he’s making the most of it, certainly,” Cable said.
Boller will relieve starter Jason Campbell likely at some point late in the first half of Saturday night’s road exhibition game against the Chicago Bears and play into the second half.
“It’s a great opportunity,” Boller said. “Each day, each week, I feel more and more comfortable, getting to know the guys, getting to know the offense. It’s gone really well.”"
August 21st, 2010 at 12:07 am
Javon Walker Works Out for Vikings, Report Says/20/2010 2:17 PM ET By Michael David Smith
Michael David Smith
NFL Writer
Brett Favre may soon get a chance to throw to one of his favorite receivers of years past.
Adam Schefter of ESPN is reporting that the Vikings are working out free agent wide receiver Javon Walker Friday. Walker was Favre’s favorite receiver in 2004 in Green Bay, catching 89 passes for 1,382 yards and 12 touchdowns that season.
Following the 2004 season, Walker said he wanted a new contract and Favre said Walker should stop whining and play for the contract he had already signed. So the two might not be the best of buddies these days. But if Favre and Walker could rekindle the kind of chemstry they had in 2004, it would be a major boost to the Vikings.
Unfortunately, Walker has had a mostly disappointing career since 2004. He suffered a season-ending injury in Week One in 2005, in what would turn out to be his last game with the Packers. Although he bounced back nicely to have a big year with the Broncos in 2006, he has done virtually nothing since then. In 2009 he played in just three games for the Raiders and didn’t catch a pass.
The Vikings are in need of a receiver because of the uncertain future of Percy Harvin, who has missed almost all of training camp with migraines, and who was rushed to the hospital on Thursday after falling ill on the practice field. The Vikings are also considering signing former 49ers wide receiver Brandon Jones.
August 21st, 2010 at 12:22 am
Why didn’t we sign Owens?
August 21st, 2010 at 12:26 am
Bears won’t score more than field goals.
August 21st, 2010 at 12:27 am
If they score at all…
August 21st, 2010 at 12:30 am
The story of the 2009 Raiders on espn 2!!! Right now
August 21st, 2010 at 2:26 am
Edward Teach:
That description of Lon Simmons calling a baseball game was perfect, especially “He always sounded like he was just sitting next to you watching a game”!
Exactly! And talking to you!
Lon didn’t hesitate to call out officials or players on the Giants either and man I just loved that sarcasm.
Best ever baseball guy: Lon Simmons.
Best ever football guy: Bill King.
August 21st, 2010 at 2:29 am
Thanks Jerry, that’s a great report.
The most disturbing, although not suprising part, was your comment that ‘49 receivers make more of an effort to come back for the ball and fight for it more.
August 21st, 2010 at 2:39 am
By request of the San Diego Chargers, the NFL has prohibited the live broadcast of Saturday’s Raiders game versus the Chicago Bears, due to the Chargers’ claim to broadcast rights in the Los Angeles market. Due to this request, the Raiders game will be seen in its entirety on KTLA 5 on SATURDAY NIGHT at 12 MIDNIGHT, and replayed SUNDAY at 11 AM and again at 2 PM
August 21st, 2010 at 5:04 am
http://www.atdhe.net/
August 21st, 2010 at 6:17 am
Pitoes
August 21st, 2010 at 6:27 am
Is “veteran courtesy” the 49ers term for “fatigue”?
August 21st, 2010 at 8:01 am
Hey Fat Kidd, if that charger thing about the game is true, that is the biggest load of turd ever. That just pisses me off. My hatred for the chargers has just gone up a few notches and is that much closer to matching my hatred for the broncos.
To block a PRESEASON game because of “rights” to a city is, which is not even the city you are in, is just ricockulous.
What a bunch of crybabies.
August 21st, 2010 at 8:45 am
good morning nation!
August 21st, 2010 at 8:48 am
Mad props tw
August 21st, 2010 at 9:01 am
I live in San Diego,and I hate the Dischargers. I hate LT, their Fans (if you can call’em that), and their Powder Blue and puke yellow colors!!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am
Raider Guy, always worked for me. If the screen freezes just close & open again.
morning R8eray, Raider O. Look for the Donkeys to tank because of so many injuries. Chargers can’t sign their best players. We better stop the run!!!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:37 am
RaiderTW, thanks for the link!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:45 am
RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRSSSSS!!!!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am
Good Morning TW. I hope you are feeling better.
If we can stop the run, run well, then I think we can win the West.
The Dischargers are soft. They are not the same team under MS. They are a passing offense, and their defense is not as dominating as before. They got Soft.
We should run, and put pressure on Rivers. We can win. We almost won last year with Jabustus and that DL. We can win!!!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:55 am
-We can run on every team in our division.
-We should be able to stop the run, so that will leave SD. We have a better pass rush than last year, and we added a NB.
We can Win the West, if we:
1- Imorove our OL
2- Develop our WRs
3- stop the Soft Practice Crap!!
August 21st, 2010 at 9:57 am
O, we need to stop the Fatigue!
August 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am
If I was our GM/HC, I would:
1- Cut Eugene
2- Play Henderson more than TK.
3- run 30+ times per game. Bush should get the majority of the carries, but DMC should have 20 touches per game. (catch & run)
4- play Veldheer at RT, Walker at RG, sign Mawae!!!!
5- Sign Mawae!!!!
August 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
I forgot all about that!!
If we are going to win the West, We Have to stop the Fatigue!!!
Stop the Fatigue & Legalize it!!!
I hope it’s not weed causing the Fatigue. lol
August 21st, 2010 at 10:09 am
It’s the cold medicine mixed with the kool-aid, yum!
August 21st, 2010 at 10:12 am
I know the Jets went Bowling, family time, etc…, but have you seen them practice?! They go full speed, and they hit.
We are going bowling, but we are not going full speed at practice, and we are not hitting.
We must have a vet team that finished 9-7, and played in the PO.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:14 am
208, Is that you Jabustus?
August 21st, 2010 at 10:23 am
Jabusts,
You should send me a refund for your Jersey. It’s new. I didn’t wear it.
You owe me $109.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
i ate four chili dogs and a large curly fry and a mountain dew slurpy,i think i have fatigue.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:30 am
Jabusts fatigue is spreading throughout the team. Al needs to get them inoculated and back on the field.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:32 am
Raiders FB Luke Lawton thinks the team is making plans to replace him.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:41 am
I guess your stimulus check arrived!
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# fat kidd Says:
August 21st, 2010 at 10:27 am
i ate four chili dogs and a large curly fry and a mountain dew slurpy,i think i have fatigue.
August 21st, 2010 at 10:41 am
the Raiders) know what they’ve got with me, or they’re trying to get rid of me,” Lawton said. “I am the best one we’ve got, and if they want to keep me, they can. And if they don’t, fine. Somebody will pick me up.”
The 6-foot, 240-pounder has played for eight teams since signing with Buffalo as an undrafted free agent out of McNeese State. Along the way, he picked up a Super Bowl ring as a special-teams player for Indianapolis.
He’s also picked up more than his share of concussions, though officially this was only his second.
“I didn’t have any air in my helmet, and if you don’t have any air you’re screwed,” Lawton said. “I forgot that day.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/21/SPNK1F163V.DTL&feed=rss.raiders#ixzz0xGOTOx4T
August 21st, 2010 at 10:43 am
He forgot to put air in his helmet????
Sounds like he’s had a few too many knocks to the dome!
What an idiot.
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Plunketthead Says:
August 21st, 2010 at 10:41 am
“I didn’t have any air in my helmet, and if you don’t have any air you’re screwed,” Lawton said. “I forgot that day.”
August 21st, 2010 at 10:45 am
wow. polocies? …try policies …gezzz …
August 21st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I’ve got no idea if someone has already commented on this, but there is a difference between either a pulled or strained muscle or tendon and over-worked muscles. muscle fatigue requires rest days to get back into neutral before a quick rehab returns a player back to peak performance. pulls and strains require some rest with light work mixed in. think of muscle fatigue as a gun that overheats. must cool down before you get the rounds per minute back up to max.