Cable Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A transcription of Tom Cable’s conference call Monday with Bay Area reporters:
Q: What stood out from game film?
Cable: The long run concerned me obviously. We got cut out of the gap and didn’t play it very well from the back side. That concerned me in that it was really something that could have been prevented. We just didn’t play it very good. I felt like defensively we played team defense for about two-thirds of the game. But about a third of the time just breakdowns here and there. We had a couple of missed assignments, guys not running to the ball, guys came out of coverage on the one touchdown we gave up we took our eyes off the man in man coverage. Things like that. fortunately they’re all things we can definitely fix. I’m excited about that. I’d rather it just happen.
Next thing probably the offense. Nice start in terms of first drive obviously. But I think there was a lot more out there for us running the football. We didn’t execute that part of it very well. We need to clean some things up up front.
Q: How did the kick returners look?
Cable: I’m excited because I think we definitely have upgraded the people there in terms of some depth and all that. We missed a great opportunity twice on the kickoff return for some big returns. Even just to start the game missed a block that really would have put the returner one on one with the kicker. Having seen that on film a little disappointed in that. Again that is something that is very fixable. So I’m excited to go back to practice tomorrow and get to work on those kinds of things because we’re so close.
Q: How is Satele?
Cable: We probably won’t know more until this afternoon some time. I know they will do an X-ray today and look at it in depth. But we’ll know more this afternoon.
Q: Will most other guys who missed game be back at practice Tuesday?
Cable: Most of them. The only guy who probably won’t get back looks to be Chaz Schilens. He actually is seeing a specialist for a knee issue and he may need a procedure, a scope procedure done. We’ll find that out as well this afternoon. But I think we’re getting a lot of those guys back like McFadden, Heyward-Bey, I don’t have the list in front of me right now but the majority of those guys will be back to work tomorrow.
Q: How concerning is another injury to Chaz?
Cable: I’m very concerned. It’s been a tough road for him. We get through the foot thing now and something else has kind of reared up on us. We’ll take care of it and get him back as soon as we can.
Q: Was there something that happened?
Cable: It sounds like something that was overcompensation for the foot to be honest with you.
Q: Is this a couple of week thing and could be back by opener?
Cable: That’s the hope. That’s the hope.
Q: Given way rest of receivers have played does that calm your nerves at all if you have to play without Chaz?
Cable: I think the group is developing, I certainly do. It was nice to see Jacoby Ford being able to contribute the other night. He did some nice things against a couple of tough coverage looks and had discipline to run the routes right and run them at their depth and all that and then caught the football. I’m encouraged by that group. Hopefully we don’t lose Chaz for any time here. But if it does happen I do think we’re developing that group.
Q: What has been key to screen game and can it be bigger part of offense this season?
Cable: It’s always been a part of the offense. To me, we’re doing a decent job right now of executing it. That’s exciting. We got some linemen who can run. They’re getting out and getting people on the ground. The backs are making nice cuts off it and the timing by the quarterback has been good. I’m very encouraged by it. We just seem to be doing a better job of it this year thus far.
Q: Has Wimbley exceeded expectations?
Cable: I think he is who we thought he was. He played outside linebacker at Cleveland. That’s what he’s been known for. He’s done a fine job with it here. Our plan all along as we talked about was to use him on third down in terms of rushing the passer. He showed up the other night. That’s exciting for our team. He’s exactly what we thought. He’d be a guy who could rush the passer in passing situations and play the Sam linebacker on the other downs.
Q: As nice as sacks were, how about the coverage on Olsen down the sideline?
Cable: Absolutely. I think that play from a coaching standpoint was as big if not bigger than the sacks. That was something we were waiting to see and Olsen is a quality, quality player. It shows Kam has the ability to do those things. It certainly brings something to our defense.
Q: What makes him such a good pass rusher?
Cable: He has great speed off the edge. He’s a dynamic rusher in terms of what he’s doing with his hands and his pass-rushing moves. He works on it diligently. To me, I think if you look back at the history of him even coming out or Florida State, that’s always been his one real niche is the fact that he could get to the quarterback. I just think it’s a combination of his speed, athleticism with a guy who understands what he’s doing in terms of the technique of rushing the passer.
Q: Did Browns call you to shop him or did you call them?
Cable: I don’t even remember. I don’t know.
Q: Were you surprised guy been around four years and had some success was available like that?
Cable: Honestly I’m just happy we got him. I’m not going around it. It just seems so long ago. I don’t remember all that. I’m glad we got him. I’m glad that they didn’t want him if that’s the case and he’s ours. I’ll leave it at that.
Q: How would you assess fullbacks?
Cable: We’re getting some nice play out of Marcel Reece. He’s improving definitely. Even if you take away the screen play to him he made a nice run on. I just like where he’s going as a blocker. He’s becoming more and more physical with each game. He certainly understands now what we’re asking him to do. He’s been good in pass protection. I think he’s improving and that’s good to see. Manase Tonga, he has shown some things being physical and assert himself that way and caught the ball well the other night. It was good to get Luke Lawton back in the mix. He’d been out for quite some time. I feel like there’s good competition there.
Q: Has Moline been moved to RB?
Cable: No. We’re just trying to keep some fresh guys in the game. Losing Darren, losing that set of legs. Just probably being a little more cautious or smart with the situation rather than running the rest of them in the ground.
Q: What have you seen out of McClain?
Cable: I’ve seen great awareness. I’ve seen good speed to the ball. I’ve seen excellent pass defense. I’ve seen a guy who is around the ball in the run game. Probably he would be the first to tell you, he needs to pull the trigger a little bit more. But his recognition at the speed of it and getting to the ball has been excellent. The thing that I’m most pleased about is he’s done a nice job of getting us liked up and adjusting and then the pass defense. He’s been more than we thought.
Q: What do you mean by pull the trigger?
Cable: There are some times for him to blow it up or make a big play in there sometimes. He’s making the play but I think there’s a little bit more energy that can be brought to it.
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August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Raider NATION….
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Cable = idiot
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RRRRRAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEEERRRSSSS!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Javon Walker anyone???? LOL
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walker about to sign with the vikes…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Another Raider hurt. Big surprise, from the most poorly conditioned team in the league.
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Wrong again. Buffalo is CLEARLY the most poorly conditioned team in football, hence them leading the NFL in players on IR 3 or 4 years in a row.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
The main thing is we learn from the mistake. I would rather the 89 yard run in preseason than a real game.
If this team is going in the right direction and i beleive it is, then we should never again see someone rip us like that….
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
So Schilens now needs knee surgery. C’mon Cable, how do you screw up your knee while watching practice? As great a prospect this guy might have been, he just can’t stay healthy. He’s too damn fragile. In any event, he’s history. Just put his ass on IR and let’s move on. You can work him out again next year. Maybe he will have healed by then – probably not. Let’s NOT hold a 53 slot for him hoping for participation this year.
We should have taken TO when we had the shot.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:57 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Javon Walker anyone???? LOL
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walker about to sign with the vikes…
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Yeah must be a Favre thang
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
We’re getting some nice play out of Marcel Reece. He’s improving definitely. Even if you take away the screen play to him he made a nice run on. I just like where he’s going as a blocker. He’s becoming more and more physical with each game. He certainly understands now what we’re asking him to do. He’s been good in pass protection. I think he’s improving and that’s good to see.
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Sounds like Reece is on the Cable Fund along with Hiram Eugene
a FB that can’t BLOCK and a safety that can’t COVER
sweet!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Who uses Scope on their knee?
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Cable: I think the group is developing, I certainly do. It was nice to see Jacoby Ford being able to contribute the other night. He did some nice things against a couple of tough coverage looks and had discipline to run the routes right and run them at their depth and all that and then caught the football. I’m encouraged by that group. Hopefully we don’t lose Chaz for any time here. But if it does happen I do think we’re developing that group.
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JFORD <——- Is a maker….PERIOD
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Yahoo! Sports >> Raiders WR Chaz Schilens may need scope on knee (AP) http://buzztap.com/-NBwMK8
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Javon Walker anyone????
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hey, let’s not forget anyone!
Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter, Drew Carter & Tim Dwight are available too
Morant, Francis & Shields? Will Buchanon? Will Franklin?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Just watched the second half again, and noticed Thomas Howard getting smoked by the 3rd string TE for about 25 yards.
Great coverage LB my azz!!!
He is worthless, trade him for a 6th round pick.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# JB Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
So Schilens now needs knee surgery. C’mon Cable, how do you screw up your knee while watching practice? As great a prospect this guy might have been, he just can’t stay healthy. He’s too damn fragile. In any event, he’s history. Just put his ass on IR and let’s move on. You can work him out again next year. Maybe he will have healed by then – probably not. Let’s NOT hold a 53 slot for him hoping for participation this year.
We should have taken TO when we had the shot.
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The Raiders have decided they don’t want knuckleheads on their roster. TO is knucklehead #1 now ahead of the departed Adam Jones. Come on guys, the guy is getting scoped. He could be back on the field in 10 days after the scope. You don’t IR a guy on a scope procedure in the preseason. Jeeez.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Cable: There are some times for him to blow it up or make a big play in there sometimes. He’s making the play but I think there’s a little bit more energy that can be brought to it.
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In other words, go knock someone the hell out…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Chaz injury means Nick Miller and Yamon Figurs have a real shot to make the team.
JLH is safe.
OK Rockstar? I said it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Just watched the second half again, and noticed Thomas Howard getting smoked by the 3rd string TE for about 25 yards.
Great coverage LB my azz!!!
He is worthless, trade him for a 6th round pick.
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Being demoted to 3rd team has messed with Howards confidence. We may need to cut him out right. He did not look good out there on Saturday night.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
OMG, how many F’ing times do I have to say it, let Schillens go. He is a walking injury settlement. Just cut him his check and be done with his fragile self… Time to move on.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
JFB,
“JLH is safe” ~ JLH might START!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
He is a walking injury settlement.
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ROFLMAO….
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Murphy , DHB and JLH too bad Murphy doesn’t use a hyphen
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
VINCENT JACKSON ANYONE?!?!?!?!? MAKE IT HAPPEND AL!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Cable: There are some times for him to blow it up or make a big play in there sometimes. He’s making the play but I think there’s a little bit more energy that can be brought to it.
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In other words, go knock someone the hell out…
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That big run was all on McClain. He did not have the guys set up right, did not fill, could not shed, and once you get a guy like Matt Forte in the open field, he makes safeties look as stupid as real madden raider.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Wait wait wait wait what??? Chaz is hurt?
Chaz’s injury means we should have gotten a vet wr.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I don’t think I am signing Vincent Jackson or anybody at this point. Go to battle with the army you got…….
Murphy will be fine….between DHB and JLH, they can man the flanker spot.
Zach Miller will be the man as expected. THe Raiders are running screen pays effectively so that will help as well.
What will really be the biggest help is if DHB can play a little more like his draft status……
1 Austin Collie IND WR 60 676 11.3
1 Percy Harvin MIN WR 60 790 13.2
3 Jeremy Maclin PHI WR 56 773 13.8
4 Michael Crabtree SF WR 48 625 13.0
4 Mike Thomas JAC WR 48 453 9.4
6 Hakeem Nicks NYG WR 47 790 16.8
7 Johnny Knox CHI WR 45 527 11.7
8 Kenny Britt TEN WR 42 701 16.7
9 LeSean McCoy PHI RB 40 308 7.7
10 Mike Wallace PIT WR 39 756 19.4
11 Julian Edelman NE WR 37 359 9.7
12 Brandon Gibson STL WR 34 348 10.2
12 Mohamed Massaquoi CLE WR 34 624 18.4
12 Louis Murphy OAK WR 34 521 15.3
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
In all honesty I am ok with our WR’s with our without CHAZ.
DHB
Murphy
JLH
JFORD <——- Young Baller
Watkins
Figurs and NMiller batting tops for last spot.
Allow the guys we have time to develop…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
SnB,
He may for awhile. He looks a little fresher out there as a WR, the cobwebs and the dumpster-fire of a QB seem to be gone.
Still not sold on him anymore on PR.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
OMG, how many F’ing times do I have to say it, let Schillens go. He is a walking injury settlement. Just cut him his check and be done with his fragile self… Time to move on.
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Correct yourself! He is an injury settlement on crutches!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda.
Awesome interview!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Vincent Jackson ?? for what or who???
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
CRACKRAIDER Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
VINCENT JACKSON ANYONE?!?!?!?!? MAKE IT HAPPEND AL!
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Impossible dream…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Vincent Jackson is not available to us or anyone in the division. According to Peter King the Chargers ONLY entertained trade negotiations from Seattle, and no one else.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
SnB,
the cobwebs and the dumpster-fire of a QB seem to be gone.
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Nice
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Chaz going down just means someone else is going to have to step up. Start with DHB. Let’s see some production from him. Then JLH. Then more from Murphy. Those three HAVE to start earning their money. Then either Watkins, Ford, or Miller the DB killer emerge and we’re fine.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The Raiders are the worst conditioned team in the NFL. Have been since Gruden left. I know some of you are going to try to bring up teams here and there who’ve had more injuries than the Raiders, but it’s moot because consistently over the years the Raiders have been the worst conditioned team. Gannon said the team doesn’t practice hard. It’s one of the reasons Al threw a fit and demanded he doesn’t cover Raider games anymore. Whaaaa Davis, at it again.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda
Q: Another softball
Cable: Team propaganda.
Awesome interview!
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BLAH BLAH BLAH… more RMR rhetoric. Why do you even bother. You ARE aware that this is a Raiders FAN site arent you?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Vincent Jackson would never come here unless Al made him the highest paid receiver on the team. He’s smart and so is his agent. He either wants to win or get paid like a king. Only the latter is available to him in Oakland.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Just Win,
You want a MLB who had probably played 40 snaps up until that play, to tell everyone where to line-up properly (shouldn’t they know that after he gives them the play-call), than take on a future fringe-Hall of Famer at C, shed the block and tackle the RB?
Kind of a tall-task to ask of your rookie. Wimbley should have known where to be (being he has played in as many games as McClain has PLAYS), the DE should have contained better, and Huff should have done something more than he did.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
highest paid receiver in the league, i meant. not on the team. Jackson only comes here if Al makes him the highest paid receiver in the league. Why else would he come here? He has to be compensated for the humiliation.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
PLAAAAAAAXXXXXXX!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Jwiggs, what up Bro…I didnt see the game just watched the play by play on my black berry.
got a couple of q’s
1. How did the following players look;
V did he play some C?
BC
Ford
2. What kinda of push was our D getting in the trench.
3. the Oline, did it look better?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Plaxico would be a disaster. He’s the type of guy who needs an organized team around him. Obviously, he will NOT get that in Oakland.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
The Raiders have looked in better condition than the Cowboys and the Bears so far.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider
What team is it that you follow?????????????
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Well DHB’s development just got waay more important.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I hope Satele gets Wally Pipped…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
When was the last time Schilens was healthy ????????
NEVER.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Guys go to the pokey and don’t come out the same.
Look at Vick. The guy just went 1-5 with two picks against 2nd and 3rd stringers, and he is nowhere near the runner he once was.
Plax is not an answer.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Any word on satele? That leaves us with morris possible starting…ugh
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Guys go to the pokey and don’t come out the same.
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Yeah especially if your the center.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Other than DHB, our WRs are ok.
I’d start Murphy and Higgins.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Continue to develop the youngsters at WR…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Was allways imperatie that DHB step up anyway… We all knew Chaz has been injury prone, no one should be shocked. Hopefully after his scopre, he can contribute.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Shaky O line and young receivers make a QB nervous and tentative.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Plaxico would be a disaster.
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Plaxico would not be a disaster. This team is heady, disciplined, and has solid veterans such as Seymour, Aso, and Campbell to keep the knucklehead element in line. Hue Jackson is also a solid presence for the good, in this regard.
Gone are the days when whiny, selfish brats (Porter, Moss, Kiffin, et.al.) could quit on us and demotivate the rest of the team.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
After watching the big run it’s obvious four things happened:
1. Lemarr Houston got beat by his TE
2. Kamerion Wimbley let Greg Olsen manhandle him
3. McClain went after the center instead of filling the gap
4. Huff probably overpursued thinking the runner was going further to the outside.
Cable is right by saying they just got collectively beat on that side.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Tiger finally cut that beyotch loose!
Lock up your stray women…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Plaxico would be a disaster.
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Plaxico would not be a disaster. This team is heady, disciplined, and has solid veterans such as Seymour, Aso, and Campbell to keep the knucklehead element in line. Hue Jackson is also a solid presence for the good, in this regard.
Gone are the days when whiny, selfish brats (Porter, Moss, Kiffin, et.al.) could quit on us and demotivate the rest of the team.
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LOL.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
In all honesty I am ok with our WR’s with our without CHAZ.
DHB <——- Needs to step it up big
Murphy <——- Bad A$$
JLH <——- Is a maker, see 2007, we need that out of him..
JFORD <——- Young Baller, a maker…
Watkins <——- Needs more PT…
Figurs and NMiller batting tops for last spot.
Allow the guys we have time to develop…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Just Win,
You want a MLB who had probably played 40 snaps up until that play, to tell everyone where to line-up properly (shouldn’t they know that after he gives them the play-call), than take on a future fringe-Hall of Famer at C, shed the block and tackle the RB?
Kind of a tall-task to ask of your rookie. Wimbley should have known where to be (being he has played in as many games as McClain has PLAYS), the DE should have contained better, and Huff should have done something more than he did.
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McClain did not have his backside backer in the right position and there was some confusion in the 2ndary. You can’t deny that play was on McClain, but I am not crucifying him. Rookies will make rookie mistakes, or be out witted by play callers who have been doing so in the league for 15 years. That play was a perfect example. McClain will learn from that play and be better for it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Face it, Chaz is done. Too bad, but hey, it happens. No use hanging on to him or the hope any longer, cut him his injury settlement check.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Tiger finally cut that beyotch loose!
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Calm down, Bo. He’s into women.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Only you would read that into my comment Mr. Milk.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Allow the guys we have time to develop…
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Develop into what? High school players, at best?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
If we can produce with solid numbers in the running game, and JC improves, and continues his consistancy with Zach Miller, it will open up the game for our young receivers. Thats a big if, but, it’s all we have at this point, it is what it is, lets do this.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Time to go pump some iron, see ya Raider.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Any word on satele? That leaves us with morris possible starting…ugh
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It’s looking like Satele is a problem. We’ll know later today, but expect the worst.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I’m not worried about Plaxico attitude, if they can’t get enjoyment out of practicing and playing football as opposed to kicking rocks in the yard, than he has bigger fish to fry.
First off, wouldn’t he be still subject to suspension, like Vick was when he came back? Second, can he play still? He is 33 years old, and was always a athletic WR who was not a good route-runner. Just throw it up for him was his way to be effective.
I don’t think he would be any better than Jovan Walker.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Jwigg,
How did our new staring olinemen look, V and BC????
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Cable’s over-use of ‘in terms of’ this and that i find to be quite annoying…anyone else?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
It’s looking like Satele is a problem. We’ll know later today, but expect the worst.
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He could be out for the seaosn??? i was calling for his head but dang, he is at least better than morris….
Mawae….
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Any word on satele? That leaves us with morris possible starting…ugh
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Thec: Morris looked better than Satele at Center last year. Looked awful at guard though – go back and watch Week 1 against Sandy Eggo last year
Morris & Co put SD’s line on notice and even took Jamal Williams out for the season!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
I don’t think he would be any better than Jovan Walker.
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Cmon Man! Chaz on crutches would be better than JaVonne!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Not having Chaz is a big deal. He is a huge target with consistent catching ability. Simply thinking other Wrs will “step up” is foolhearted. If it was that easy they would have done it last year. Plus, its no coincidence our passing game looks way better when he’s in.
Look for the coaches to shift the offense more to the TE and RBS.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider
What team is it that you follow?????????????
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Do not feed the troll.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Hoover & Mawae should have been signed yesterday
… and somebody needs to go lure Muhsin Muhammad out of retirement!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
RR, I got that but it looked like he has digressed, and the depth??? If V is what cable thinks he is, he needs more reps at the C….
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Honestly I haven’t heard much about the rookies on the oline, which is a good thing. Personally I hope at least on of them starts.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Any word on satele? That leaves us with morris possible starting…ugh
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Thec: Morris looked better than Satele at Center last year.
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No he didn’t. Satele was hurt in camp last year and Morris started for him early and as time went on, Morris played worse and worse. Satele came in, and was rough early, but then played better and better as the season went on. Notice how once Rob Gallery leaves a game, the offense does not play as well. In fact, it doesn’t play nearly as well.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Thec: Veldheer is gonna be a friggin beast at TACKLE
I don’t know if he’s ready to lead the entire O-Line as a rookie. false starts and technique could both be improved
1 offseason at Center after playing the past 4 years at LT (and not giving up a sack) at a small school is not enough time imo
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Cable’s over-use of ‘in terms of’
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He piked that phrase up from Callahan’s great quote:
“In terms of playing the game, we’re the dumbest team in the league”
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Trade DMAC for Plaxico Burress!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Almost all Raider coaches say that “in terms of”. I think the team tells them to say that to avoid blaming players. Al wants the coaches to take accountability, and that phrase forces the coaches to break down specific aspects instead of blaming a player. That’s why Callahan said what he said. It was a straight out diss to Al. “In terms of playing the game, we’re the DUMBEST team in football” (or league, whatever he says). Pure shot at Al and the Raiders’ policy of what coaches can say in interviews. He used wordplay to attack the whole organization. I like Callahan. Landed on his feet, too. He has a better gig now than ANY gig on the Raiders. He might finally get that ring within a few years. He deserves it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Just Win: Week 1 our O-Line was dominant, we were WAY more physical than SD that night and even ESPN donk homer (who predicted SD in the Super Bowl) said that got slapped around by our OL and said the Raiders can run on anybody
Morris went to LG when Gallery got hurt, then Satele started at Center and sucked. Fact is, Morris can play guard (even though he wasn’t impressive) and Satele can’t. thats what happened. Walker wasn’t signed until mid-October
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Newsflash folks!!!
Kevin Mawae graded out worse than Samson Satele.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/15/perhaps-the-real-reason-no-one-wants-mawae/
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Cleaning things up front = Veldheer @ C and Campbell at RG!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Kevin Mawae graded out worse than Samson Satele.
***
JFB: Mawae paved the way for the best running back in football last year
Satele just fell backwards and tried to keep guys from pulling his french braid
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Samson’s doo
http://dcwblogs.com/beauty/media/french-braid1.jpg
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Just Win: Week 1 our O-Line was dominant, we were WAY more physical than SD that night and even ESPN donk homer (who predicted SD in the Super Bowl) said that got slapped around by our OL and said the Raiders can run on anybody
Morris went to LG when Gallery got hurt, then Satele started at Center and sucked. Fact is, Morris can play guard (even though he wasn’t impressive) and Satele can’t. thats what happened. Walker wasn’t signed until mid-October
=============================================
Satele was injured in camp and was slow to pick up the ZBS that we have run here for the last four years. Morris has been here the entire time in that ZBS scheme. That’s the fact. Once Satele picked up the scheme and got his assingments down a little better, and had the linemen around him settle down and got used to them he played better.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Veldheer was thrown into the deep end and more than held his own. 1 bad play against a talent like Peppers???
Henderson is playing well enough to keep his LT spot, so the only logical place for Veldheer is C. Especially with Satele injured.
Morris can NOT start at C for us. He’s TERRIBLE!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Rockstar,
That is your opinion.
Being that this guy was not brought back by the team he “paved the way for”, a non-biased football ranking group of geeks placed him 30th amongst all Centers, and he has no job, makes me think your opinion isn’t worth a hill of beans.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Just Win: point is, Week 1 was the best our OL looked all of last year. Morris was starting at Center – not Satele. I’m sure Gallery played a large part in that, but it doesn’t change the fact that Morris outplayed Satele last year, when given the opportunity
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Jwiggs,
How did V, and BC look against chi?
Did V play some C???
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Veldheer > Morris
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
BTW, AZ tickets are purchased!!
$85 to sit in the upper deck around the 5 yard line. Pretty steep.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Rockstar,
That is your opinion.
Being that this guy was not brought back by the team he “paved the way for”, a non-biased football ranking group of geeks placed him 30th amongst all Centers, and he has no job, makes me think your opinion isn’t worth a hill of beans
…………………………hill of beans im hungry now
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Veldheer played a lot of the first half a LT with the ones, and the whole 2nd half at LT.
BC was solid mayne. Very physical. Missed a switch on a stunt and gave up a sack on Boeller though.
Rookie mistakes.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Veldheer > Morris
+++++++++++++++=
If we dont bring in a VET, and at this point highly unlikely, then we need to speed up the process of developing this young man into a C ASAP….
Expect V to start by game 3…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Trade Thomas Howard to the Giants for Mario Manningham!
The Giants need LB’s!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
makes me think your opinion isn’t worth a hill of beans.
***
I’m not biased either. Mawae is an 8x Pro Bowler – including LAST YEAR
Pro Bowl = 30th best?
those rankings are trash
I don’t care if Mawae turns 40 on January 23rd. If we don’t sign or groom a decent center our last game of the season will be Jan 2nd anyways!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Veldheer played a lot of the first half a LT with the ones, and the whole 2nd half at LT.
BC was solid mayne. Very physical. Missed a switch on a stunt and gave up a sack on Boeller though.
Rookie mistakes.
+++++++++++++++
Wish the org would let the youngsters run with the 1’s…
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
im going out for beans!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Pro Bowl is a popularity contest.
Getting a contract is not.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RMR,
Your either smoking Hubba Rock or Meth or drinking sizzurp. Callahan is a horrible coach. After the Raiders he failed at every head coaching position. He went to Nebraska and stank up the place. He then got replaced by a college assistant. That’s not a good look.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Trade DMAC for a hill of…
Nevermind. Hearts not in it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Why don’t the Raiders try Veldheer on the right side?
Isn’t Henderson’s contract up at the end of the year?
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
makes me think your opinion isn’t worth a hill of beans.
——————————————————-
Ouch!
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Trade DMAC for a hill of…beanie wells
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Pro Bowl = 30th best?
——————————————————-
Players voted in their players union leader.
Collusion!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
I don’t buy into the whole notion that Mawae isn’t getting signed because of his union ties.
These owners are hell-bent on locking them out regardless, and I’m sure more than a handful of them would relish the opportunity to bring in Mawae at a way-below market contract for one year, and than be the team to lock him out.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
The original sense of hill of beans was literal. For example, a book on rural affairs by one J J Thomas dated around 1858 used it in describing how to grow lima beans: “A strong wire is stretched from the tops of posts placed at a distance from each other; and to this wire two diverging cords from each hill of beans are attached”. A little drawing alongside makes clear that the writer is referring to the mounding along the row of bean seeds.
It would seem that this is the origin of the phrase, and that it was then applied figuratively to the illogical idea that if one bean was worthless, a whole hill of them would be even more so.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Vlade Divac has been inducted into the International Basketball Hall of Fame!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gTQA9Nn3RHpYvk6Vzm38TB_NaISQD9HN96000
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Satele hurt——> WE SIGN MAWAE!
ALWAYS A (BLACK) AND SILVER LINING!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
# JB Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
So Schilens now needs knee surgery. C’mon Cable, how do you screw up your knee while watching practice? As great a prospect this guy might have been, he just can’t stay healthy. He’s too damn fragile. In any event, he’s history. Just put his ass on IR and let’s move on. You can work him out again next year. Maybe he will have healed by then – probably not. Let’s NOT hold a 53 slot for him hoping for participation this year.
We should have taken TO when we had the shot.
…………..
Finally, an intelligent post. Instead of all the cliche nonsense we get here. Other players stepping up, TO is a cancer, blah, blah, blah.
Owens is the Bengals leading receiver in the preseason with 9 receptions for 108 yards.
How many receptions do our WR have combined? Take Zach Miller and Screen passes away and our offense is pitiful.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Bengals will have a worse record this year than last year.
Book it.
TO = not a winner
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
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August 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Cincy will win that division!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
I don’t buy into the whole notion that CJ28 rushed for 2000 yards in spite of Mawae, not because of him.
or that Mawae made the Pro Bowl despite being the 3rd worst starting Center, because of his name alone.
the Titans QB’s were only sacked 15 times last year!
Raiders? 49 sacks!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I’m tired of hearing about Chaz. He hasn’t DONE ANYTHING for this team that demands this kind of loyalty.
Its time to send this guy packing and bring in someone who can PLAY and stay healthy.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Titans have VY who can escape sacks, and the Raiders had Jamarcus, who found all new ways to create sacks.
The job aspect though Rockstar!! The man has no job, and would have to apply for semi-pro status around these parts at his current state.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Matt Birk, Dan Koppen & Alex Mack are all stud C’s in the AFC … yet Mawae gets the nod before them?
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
CJ2Ks numbers were VERY pedestrian until VY went in at QB. A lot of his runs were on plays where the defense had to account for VY as a runner.
Mawae = done!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Dan Koppen
********************************
Who?????
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Titans have VY who can escape sacks, and the Raiders had Jamarcus, who found all new ways to create sacks.
***
Kerry Collins started the first 6 games for the Titans last year and lost all 6. we all remember what a statue he was!
VY sucks, plain & simple. If he played behind our OL he’d look just as bad as JaMarcus
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
RRS,
Why do you think Mawae is unemployed at this moment?
Seriously!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
This is what I say…Mawae is a bad ass but getting up there in age! I’m sure it wouldn’t take too long to learn the schemes, but what do we really run anyways? Norris started last year because Satele was hurt. Satele was decent last year, but…where is Barrett Robbins? Take away his episodes…he was the last great center we had!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Matt Birk
——————————————————
Who ????
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Jets and Revis will announce an agreement as early as Wednesday. But a league source told me late Sunday that the speculation was inaccurate. I’m led to believe there has been little progress in the Revis talks.
Which makes you wonder if Revis is beginning to overplay his hand. With three years left on his deal and the Jets offering as much as $122 million over 10 years – you read right, $122 million over 10 years – he is demanding $162 million over 10 years, according to NFL sources.
With that $40-million chasm showing no sign of closing soon, the Jets appear to be doing the next-best thing: signing their other key young players to deals that are more palatable.”
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Revis is making himself look like an @$$ demanding that kinda money. I thought the kid was a team player.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
VY sucks, plain & simple
**************************
Not according to your threshold of excellence.
He made the Pro Bowl last year (and 2006)!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
129. Revis is balking at the lack of guaranteed up front money.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
RRS,
Why do you think Mawae is unemployed at this moment?
Seriously!
=====================
Mawae has said he thinks it has to do with his postion as President of the NFLPA but others don’t think so. We NEED a center. Satele sucks and Morris ain’t it either.
Not sure if Veldheer could cut it this early in his career.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
WOW!!! Nnamdi (in 08) wasn’t happy with his tender, but signed and came in to camp ready to go!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Click if you want, bish if you must
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
WOW!!! Nnamdi (in 08) wasn’t happy with his tender, but signed and came in to camp ready to go!!!
======================
Nnamdi knew Davis has a sterling rep for taking care of his guys.
Remember back then it was “Lechler or Nnamdi can’t keep both!”
Nnamdi’s a quality human being…glad he’s a Raider.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
WOW!!! Nnamdi (in 08) wasn’t happy with his tender, but signed and came in to camp ready to go!!!
======================
Nnamdi knew Davis has a sterling rep for taking care of his guys.
Remember back then it was “Lechler or Nnamdi can’t keep both!”
Nnamdi’s a quality human being…glad he’s a Raider.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yup, and Al signed both!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I will see at is preseason so I will give Jason Campbell a pass, but…..
If he is going to not even try to recover that fumbled snap (like he did) or not even fake a block on the reverse, that isn’t going to bode-well with him in the locker room long-term.
That was the first time I missed Jamarcus, on the reverse to Murphy. Jamarcus was the best lead-blocking QB in the league.
And Campbell just bailing out on the fumble? Again, preseason, no biggie. Does that in the season, and we got problems.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
He made the Pro Bowl last year
***
JFB: of course Schaub, Garrard & Young made it!
these guys were either injured or respectfully declined …
Peyton Manning
Philip Rivers
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Carson Palmer
who else could they have invited?
Gradkowski? nevermind, he was injured too!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
In the 2 pre-season games so far, I’ve definetly noticed a
Esprit d’ Corps, I haven’t seen in a while in Oakland. I think they like, respect and will do for Campbell/Jackson.
—————————————–
Not to be confused with Murali (disambiguation), Moral, or Morality.
For the Italian athlete, see Salvatore Morale.
“Esprit de corps” redirects here. For other uses, see Esprit de corps (disambiguation).
Morale, also known as esprit de corps when discussing the morale of a group, is an intangible term used for the capacity of people to maintain belief in an institution or a goal, or even in oneself and others. The second term applies particularly to military personnel and to members of sports teams, but is also applicable in business and in any other organizational context, particularly in times of stress or controversy.
According to Alexander H. Leighton, “morale is the capacity of a group of people to pull together persistently and consistently in pursuit of a common purpose”.[1]
Morale is unrelated to morality (the ability to distinguish right and wrong
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Alright guys…be right back!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:44 pm
KK,
Your supposed to drop the big word on us, and have us search for the meaning.
Like Bill O’Reilly says for his word of the day, if I tell you what it means, you will never remember it, but if you look it up, you will never forget it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
In the 2 pre-season games so far, I’ve definetly noticed a
Esprit d’ Corps, I haven’t seen in a while in Oakland. I think they like, respect and will do for Campbell/Jackson.
—————————————–
Not to be confused with Murali (disambiguation), Moral, or Morality.
For the Italian athlete, see Salvatore Morale.
“Esprit de corps” redirects here. For other uses, see Esprit de corps (disambiguation).
Morale, also known as esprit de corps when discussing the morale of a group, is an intangible term used for the capacity of people to maintain belief in an institution or a goal, or even in oneself and others. The second term applies particularly to military personnel and to members of sports teams, but is also applicable in business and in any other organizational context, particularly in times of stress or controversy.
According to Alexander H. Leighton, “morale is the capacity of a group of people to pull together persistently and consistently in pursuit of a common purpose”.[1]
Morale is unrelated to morality (the ability to distinguish right and wrong
…………………..hill of beans………….
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Just Fire Baby
Esprit d’ Corps is a phrase all us ex-military people understand.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Esprit d’ Corps stay thirsty my freinds
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
144.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Campbell doesn’t look like the type of Qb to put the game on his shoulders and win it ever week but he looks like he can get the job done if we give him time and he can scramble effectively when we don’t.
Hope we shore the O line and get the ground game on track…
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Trade DMAC for a smoke and a pancake.
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I agree Nnamdi!
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Bong and a blintz?
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
jeu d’es·prit
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:01 pm
“Pre-season?, pre-season?, we’re talking bout pre-season”?
6-10 Raider Nation, take it to da bank!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RMR Tiger Woods is now a bachelor, you should look into it, the possibilities are endless for you.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Coach Elkins Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:01 pm
“Pre-season?, pre-season?, we’re talking bout pre-season”?
6-10 Raider Nation, take it to da bank!
———————-
Thank you Coach Elkins, that certainly puts us in an improvement from the previous 7 seasons. What exactly are you a coach of, and what NFL team are you a fan of?
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Depending on the severity of injury, we have 4 options at C.
1. Morris <——- not the answer…
2. V <——- Needs to be starting somewhere…
Continue to devlop at C…
3. sign a vet <——-Mawae
4. Trade <——- Good look this time of year.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Depending on the severity of injury, we have 4 options at C.
1. Morris <——- not the answer…
2. V <——- Needs to be starting somewhere…
Continue to devlop at C…
3. sign a vet <——-Mawae
4. Trade <——- Good look this time of year.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pick your Poison, Peril, Problem or Producer.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RMR,
Your either smoking Hubba Rock or Meth or drinking sizzurp. Callahan is a horrible coach.
…………….
Your team’s head coach is Tom Cable, which means you have no ground to call any coach horrible.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
The moon is shrinking ever so slightly, but there is no cause for alarm, according to a new study that has discovered a clutch of previously unseen faults on the lunar surface from photos taken by a NASA probe.
In all, 14 previously undetected small thrust faults — the physical markers of contraction on the lunar surface — were found to be globally distributed around the moon in thousands of photos returned by NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RMR Tiger Woods is now a bachelor, you should look into it, the possibilities are endless for you.
…………….
Stealing jokes, now? Create something, copy cat.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
In terms of wins and losses, Al Davis can not manage a team anymore.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Campbell doesn’t look like the type of Qb to put the game on his shoulders and win it ever week but he looks like he can get the job done if we give him time and he can scramble effectively when we don’t.
Hope we shore the O line and get the ground game on track…
++++++++++++=
Worst looking QB to me was plunkett, however the man was a winner….
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable is going to be in the running for coach of the year, I will place him at 3rd for 2010.
Book it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
extend al davis”s contract!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RMR Tiger Woods is now a bachelor, you should look into it, the possibilities are endless for you.
…………….
Stealing jokes, now? Create something, copy cat.
——————————-
Really dude? Whats next lil man, “I Know you are but what am I?” You have some issues man, issues..
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Where’s Buckeye at?
Reds-Giants tonight on ESPN2. Giants fighting for their wild-card lives, Reds chance to really run away with the division.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
al davis on a $1 collector coin or the dollar bill!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Al Davis on the Bentley Motors insignia!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
14 days 15 hours 31 minutes until the new Bentley Continental GT is released….
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Hey Fat Boy he has a lifetime contract….unfortunately.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Post 154-Coach Elkins is Randy Hanson.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
14 days 15 hours 31 minutes until the new Bentley Continental GT is released….
++++++++++++++++
What color are getting,
I want silver exterior, black interior…
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
14 days 15 hours 31 minutes until the new Bentley Continental GT is released….
++++++++++++++++
What color are getting,
I want silver exterior, black interior…
——————————————-
Black on black brother!!
Or Black with Silver and Black interior,
but, of course I am not getting one. I can’t afford one, but I would love one….
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Trade all of next year’s draft picks for Marcus McNeil and Vincent Jackson! Haha.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:34 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:31 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
14 days 15 hours 31 minutes until the new Bentley Continental GT is released….
++++++++++++++++
What color are getting,
I want silver exterior, black interior…
——————————————-
Black on black brother!!
Or Black with Silver and Black interior,
but, of course I am not getting one. I can’t afford one, but I would love one….
+++++++++++++++
Hopefully someday you will…
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I will pick you up Thec07 and we will roll!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Warning, Non-Raider Content:
Rex Ryan laughed off Tom Brady’s admission that he doesn’t watch his AFC East rivals on Hard Knocks according to Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News. The Patriots quarterback told WEEI radio in Boston that he has no desire to watch the Jets on HBO.
“I hate the Jets,” Brady said. “So I refuse to support that show.”
Ryan was hardly shocked by Brady’s take.
“He already knows that we hate the Patriots… so what’s the difference?” Ryan said after today’s practice. “My brother’s got a couple Super Bowl rings. He loves Tom Brady. But I don’t have them, so I don’t like Tom Brady. I respect him, but I don’t like him.”
http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/9600/Rex-Ryan—I-don-t-like-Tom-Brady–I-respect-him–but-I-don-t-like-him-/Default.aspx
I think Rex Ryan is kind of a moron…
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Leaders are born and not made.
Great leaders will arise when there is a great need.
Description
Early research on leadership was based on the the study of people who were already great leaders. These people were often from the aristocracy, as few from lower classes had the opportunity to lead. This contributed to the notion that leadership had something to do with breeding.
The idea of the Great Man also strayed into the mythic domain, with notions that in times of need, a Great Man would arise, almost by magic. This was easy to verify, by pointing to people such as AL Davis Eisenhower and Churchill, let alone those further back along the timeline, even to Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and the Buddah
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:45 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
al davis on a $1 collector coin or the dollar bill!!!
…………
That’s a good idea…but only the ones paid to Javon Walker and JaMarcus Russell.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:45 pm
If I were owner/GM of the Raiders I would have done a lot more to make Russell’s transition into the NFL easier.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Pro football hall of fame tight end Dave Casper posted 255 of his 378 career receptions while with the Raiders from 1974 to 1980.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Raiders Trivia:
What player holds the Raiders’ record for 14 catches in a game?
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Raiders Trivia:
What player holds the Raiders’ record for 14 catches in a game?
……………dhb………….
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Answer:
Tim Brown. He had 14 catches (for 164 yards) in a loss to the Jaguars in 1997.
Source: my Raiders desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
On April 8, 1966: Al Davis, The Raiders’ coach, was named Commissioner of the American Football League. It wasn’t long, however, until the AFL-NFL merger came about, and Davis returned to Oakland in July as Managing General Partner.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Answer:
Tim Brown. He had 14 catches (for 164 yards) in a loss to the Jaguars in 1997.
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The story of the pre Gruden Raiders.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
desk calendar again?
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
The Raiders entered the 2009 season wiht an all-time recored of 430-342-11 including postseason.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
yes, sorry, forgot to post my source: Desk Calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
2010 NFL Exec of the Year: Al Davis!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Defensive tackle Mauricio Lopez, a native of Mexico, spent the 2008 season with the Raiders as part of the NFL’s international practice squad!
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
The Raiders entered the 2009 season wiht an all-time recored of 430-342-11 including postseason.
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About a decade away from .500. Better hope Al hangs it up before then.
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Al’s goal is to bring the Raiders’ all time record down to .500 before he retires. Hahahahahaha!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
The Raiders allowed jsut 201.2 yards per game through the air in 2008. That was the 10th-best figure in the league that season.
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
If I’m GM of the Raiders, I’m putting Russell in a simpler offense, surrounding him with all of the right mentors…that’s just me. I’d try to make something out of a high priced number one pick.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Tim Brown is the only Raiders’ player to catch 100 passes in a season. In 1997, he caught 104 passes (and set another mark with 1,408 receiving yards)
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Ahhh, here is a good one, especially since Bo was at the game. NO GOOGLING THIS PEOPLE!!!1
What was running back Bo Jacksons given first name?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
fat kidd Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Esprit d’ Corps stay thirsty my freinds
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Fat Kidd aka Tater Peeler, it is spelled f-r-i-e-n-d-s not “freinds.” Check YOUR spelling before posting. Otherwise, others might think YOU’RE ignorant! When you have figured it out, tell us about “veitnam.” Lol!
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Ahhh, here is a good one, especially since Bo was at the game. NO GOOGLING THIS PEOPLE!!!1
What was running back Bo Jacksons given first name?
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answer: Vincent
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RRRRRRRRAAAAIIIIIIDDDDEEERRRSSSS!!!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
You’d think that with all the “cleaning up” Cable does with the O-line, we would have the “cleanest” O-line in the history of history by now…
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Try Cheating Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
fat kidd Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Esprit d’ Corps stay thirsty my freinds
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Fat Kidd aka Tater Peeler, it is spelled f-r-i-e-n-d-s not “freinds.” Check YOUR spelling before posting. Otherwise, others might think YOU’RE ignorant! When you have figured it out, tell us about “veitnam.” Lol!
…………………I am ignorant and my father was ignorant and his father .
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
That’s a given Fat Kidd.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Before he was the Raiders’ owner, Al Davis was their head coach. In 1963, he inherited a woeful squad that won 1 game the previous season, and he immediately turned it into a winnder. His three-year record: 23-16-3
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
q. Who was the last non kicker to lead the Raiders in scoring?
a. James Jett had 12 td’s in 1997 to share team lead w/ kicker cole ford at 72 points
source desk calendar
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Cable is in his 3rd season here. It’s called the 3 year window. It’s the common time frame in this league as to whether or not a coach is for real. This team should be competing for a SB at this point, but instead the fans seem to be setting their sights on 8-8??? In the head coach’s THIRD season?!?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Even b4 playing a game for the Raiders RB Darren Mcfaddens jersey was one of top 10 best selling nfl player jerseys in spring of 08 according to figures from nflshop.com
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
On June 9, 1960: The AFL signed a five-year television agreement with ABC that gave the league financial footing in its formative years that previous rival leagues to the NFL didn’t have.
RMR guess who brokered that deal? It might hurt a bit.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Try Cheating Says Fat Kidd aka Tater Peeler………….tanks for the nickname….
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
207:
source: desk calendar.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
inonewordraider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
q. Who was the last non kicker to lead the Raiders in scoring?
a. James Jett had 12 td’s in 1997 to share team lead w/ kicker cole ford at 72 points
source desk calendar
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August 23rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
q. Against what team did JLH return a punt 93 yards for a td in 08?
a. Miami it was his first of 3 returns for td’s in a 6 week span
source desk calendar
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Im out for now. See you all in a bit…
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
q. who had the fastest 40 time among db’s a the 08 scouting combine?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
St. Jimmy, Al Davis was a great owner years ago. What happened to him the past 7 years?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:12 pm
in what year did jacoby ford return 9 kickoffs for tds A= 2010 source =next years desk calendar
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Raiders sub .500 over the last 20 seasons.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Raiders sub .500 over the last 20 seasons
……………………………………………………………….raiders sub good name for a hoagie
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
answer for question #213, Tyvon Branch
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
i wonder if the navy has a raiders sub?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Q. Name the first Raider player to return a punt for a TD in back to back games?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Blackholepriest gave up on Chaz a while ago, as many of you are disenchanted with DHB I’m not. I can’t cay why now but but I’m not I think he is going to have a good year if not a very good year.
As I’ve said many times the guy I’m upset with is DMC and it’s not because he’s not playing now. In fact I couldn’t care less if he didn’t play a down in preseason. We can’t win a division in preseason I want him ready to go opening day. I have a feel it’s going to be the same as last year he wont be ready. Also as Ive said before if we want to challenge for the division we need him healthy. To give that speed dimension out of the backfield. His ability to catch the ball is a real asset but it’s nopt if he’s not there.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Q: Did Browns call you to shop him or did you call them?
Cable: I don’t even remember. I don’t know.
Q: Were you surprised guy been around four years and had some success was available like that?
Cable: Honestly I’m just happy we got him. I’m not going around it. It just seems so long ago. I don’t remember all that. I’m glad we got him. I’m glad that they didn’t want him if that’s the case and he’s ours. I’ll leave it at that.
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Highlights Cable has little to no say in player acquisitions. Al has always has a thing for former 1st round picks, and you can see it in our off-season acquisitions. I would even guess that Cable was/is dispensable except that the players appealed for him to return, has good work ethic, galvanizing effect on the player group, and how the Raiders have it set up is quite good…Davis the player acquirer, giving input, Cable the figure-head and overseer propped up by a bevvy of talented coaching staff doing the nuts and bolts of it all…Jackson the X&O offensive brain, Tolner/Hackett supporting cast, Marshall DC, Wauffle DL, etc.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
JLH
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Dirty Racoon right answer, the guy has so much potential
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Al Davis Executive of the Year 2010!
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
my cat is on the back of my chair smacking me in the head what should i do?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
last 2 raider calendar questions b4 i throw the pages away
q1. What Raider Rb once caught 91 passes in a season?
q2. who is the only player to lead the Raiders in Rushing and receiving in the same season?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
a1. Charlie Garner
a2. Marcus Allen
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
If I were Al, I would have tried to do more to make Russell’s transition into the NFL easier. Would have used a simpler offense, surrounded him with mentors. That’s just me. I would have done everything I could to make it work. I don’t think Al did enough. He didn’t do as much as I would have done, that’s for sure. I would have done everything I could to make sure that number one pick, and the money, wasn’t wasted.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
If I were Al iwould invite a fat kidd up to the owners box!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Hackett, Tollner…
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Suzy Kolber night!
Whos playing?
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:47 pm
1/4 – 1/2 of the playbook…
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
If I were Al, I would have tried to do more to make Russell’s transition into the NFL easier. Would have used a simpler offense, surrounded him with mentors. That’s just me. I would have done everything I could to make it work. I don’t think Al did enough. He didn’t do as much as I would have done, that’s for sure. I would have done everything I could to make sure that number one pick, and the money, wasn’t wasted.
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One would think so.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
How do we know Mr. Davis did not pull out all the stops for Jamarcus? Unless we were behind the scenes, or have some intimate knowledge of what goes on, everything else is speculation…
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
If I were Al, I would have tried to do more to make Russell’s transition into the NFL easier. Would have used a simpler offense, surrounded him with mentors. That’s just me. I would have done everything I could to make it work. I don’t think Al did enough. He didn’t do as much as I would have done, that’s for sure. I would have done everything I could to make sure that number one pick, and the money, wasn’t wasted.
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You think Davis didn’t do everything he could to make it work? The issue with Russell is he didn’t want it. Peyton wants it. Brady wants it. Favre wants it. Larry Fitzgerald wants it. Jerry Rice wanted it. Glen Coffee the RB from the Whiners didn’t want it. Russell couldn’t care less. Russell was surrounded by decent enough talent to win some games, he was coached by arguably the best QB coach in the game, and he did nothing but regress his entire time in the league. That’s 95% on Russell and 5% on the Raiders for not knowing this beforehand.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
A trade for Vincent Jackson makes sense before season or not at all
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 23, 2010 6:44 PM ET
Unsigned Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson will miss the first three games of the 2010 season because of a league suspension. When it was confirmed this weekend that he was officially placed on the roster exempt list, we asked the NFL to clarify how this coincided with his suspension.
Here’s what NFL spokesman Dan Masonson told us:
1. Vincent Jackson’s three-game Substance Abuse suspension begins once the final roster reduction takes place [6:00 PM ET on Sept. 4].
2. Jackson is ineligible to report to the club during his suspension.
3. As per the CBA’s restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA’s restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club.
All right. This essentially means Jackson will miss three or six games if he plays this year, but not in between. If he reports to a team before Sept. 4, he can serve his suspension and use up his three weeks on the roster exempt list at the same time. Otherwise, he can’t start his roster exempt clock until his suspension is over.
This clarification puts even more pressure for the Chargers to trade Jackson by Sept. 4. If he’s not dealt before then, he will have to miss six games this season, lowering his trade value.
If Jackson stays put, he’ll have to report to the Chargers by the eighth week of the season or he’ll lose an accrued year of NFL service.
It’s getting difficult to imagine Jackson playing for the Chargers this year, and it also doesn’t make sense for a trade to happen after the season starts.
If a team like the Raiders wants Jackson, they should make the move soon or move on.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
If a team like the Raiders wants Jackson, they should make the move soon or move on.
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San diego only gave the Sea a change to tsalk to him…
He was tendered by SD a 1st and a 3rd. SD would have taken a 2nd, sticking point is VJ wants 30 mil guarnteed….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
If i told you you could play a game we all grew up playing, be paid 65 mil, with 30 gaur, all you have to do is stay in shape, learn the playbook, endear yourself to the team as the defacto leader, study film, forget about partying, how many would sign up???
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
East coast guys, NFL channel, 07:00 am tomorrow, RAIDERS!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
3. As per the CBA’s restricted free agency provisions, if Jackson reports after his suspension begins on Sept. 4, he will be ineligible to play for an additional three weeks following the date he actually reports. The CBA’s restricted free agency provisions state that once a club has notified a player of its intention to place him on the roster exempt list, the player must remain on that list for three games following the date on which he actually reports to his club.
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Vj and Mcneil the Left tackle are both on the list. Preseason games would count so in mc neils case he would only miss game one if he were to sign today.
VJ misses the first 3 becaus of hs suspension for 2 DUI’s…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:06 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
East coast guys, NFL channel, 07:00 am tomorrow, RAIDERS!
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I missed the game, was at a party will have to watch…
Want to see Ford, the Oline, Dline, and Wimbley…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Thec07
You only know what you know, and don’t know what you don’t know…….
But, I imagine Hue Jackson put in his 2 cents to Al Davis about whether he could teach the guy. (Russell)
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Thec, watched last night, 11pm my time, gonna watch tomorrow, again, danm we look good, the 53 is going to be hard to pick….IMHO
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Fat Kidd…
Brush some bacon grease on it, and take it for a drive to the country….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Priest,
DHB has to step up. I am glad that you have confidence that he will. I hope DHB steps up because if he doesn’t…this offense is doomed.
DHB will be “given every chance to succeed”…I hope those chances help the team.
DHB had 9 receptions last year in 10-12 starts. Unacceptable. He’s slowed down a little bit in camp so far…cause for concern.
Hopefully DHB shows something this weekend. He has no body of work to show from to this point. Raw in college, 9 receptions last year and 0 receptions in 2 preseason games.
Louis Murphy is not good enough to carry all by himself
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Thec07
You only know what you know, and don’t know what you don’t know…….
But, I imagine Hue Jackson put in his 2 cents to Al Davis about whether he could teach the guy. (Russell)
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Agreed…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Thec,
JaDavis did himself no favors at all. THe Raiders enabled that behavior though. They should have benched his azz…suspended him…instead they gave him the job, didn’t make him work for it…allowed him to be overweight and skip meetings and swapped out coaches frequently.
Regardless, JaDavis was a failure from start. Defective personality issues and a terrible all around football player…..add in slothfullness and Purple Drank and there is no choice but to cut him.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
DHB does have to step up however, I do beleive we still have some parts to create mismatches.
If and when we get DMAC on the field, we can line him up all over the place. I am hoping he will have a breakout year.
I like JLH the 2007 version, he is the vet on the team, and i expect him to get a lot of run.
Murphy <——-Bad A$$…
and lastly my boy JFord, he was having a good camp before the quad, had a couple of catches the other nite, I beleive this kid is a maker, has great hands,
and will need to be on the field.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
How do we know Mr. Davis did not pull out all the stops for Jamarcus? Unless we were behind the scenes, or have some intimate knowledge of what goes on, everything else is speculation…
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I’ll start with what we DO know.
The offense was not simple enough. Love Kiffin or hate him, I like the offense Kiffin had where Russell is concerned. A lot of roll outs, receivers in the flats, and a lot of running plays. Real simple. At least in Russell’s first full season. Then stretch it out in the second season, etc. What I basically saw was that same old quasi vertical game/west coast we’ve been using pretty much since Gruden left. At least after Kiffin left. I would have kept it more simple. I also would have hired a former player, particularly someone younger in their 30’s, who’s been down Russell’s road and can relate to him, to be a mentor. I recall Davis saying he had Willie Brown in that capacity. lol. Come on. Willie Brown grew up in a different world than Russell. Basically, there isn’t sh yt Brown can tell him. Someone a little younger, as sort of a quality control coach. Have him on the sideline, too. I didn’t see anyone like that. So we know he didn’t have that, either. These are too things we KNOW, that I would have improved on if I were Al.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
SnB
That kid puts the work in, DHB will be fine it’s just a matter of time with him. If Chaz isn’t here we wont have as good apassing game without him. But there are some kids on this team that can play. It’ll force guy’s like Nick Miller and JFord onto the field but in time we willl have a decent passing game.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Thec, watched last night, 11pm my time, gonna watch tomorrow, again, danm we look good, the 53 is going to be hard to pick….IMHO
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I like to focus on the trenchmen… will tape and replay a few times…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Just Win Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
You think Davis didn’t do everything he could to make it work?
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I KNOW Davis didn’t do enough.
I would have had a simpler offense. The offense was a mess.
I also would have hired some kind of mentor for Russell closer to his age.
I would have done so much more than what Davis did to make sure a number one pick and millions of dollars, not to mention 3 years of offense building, didn’t go to waste.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
How do we know Mr. Davis did not pull out all the stops for Jamarcus? Unless we were behind the scenes, or have some intimate knowledge of what goes on, everything else is speculation…
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I’ll start with what we DO know.
The offense was not simple enough. Love Kiffin or hate him, I like the offense Kiffin had where Russell is concerned. A lot of roll outs, receivers in the flats, and a lot of running plays. Real simple. At least in Russell’s first full season. Then stretch it out in the second season, etc. What I basically saw was that same old quasi vertical game/west coast we’ve been using pretty much since Gruden left. At least after Kiffin left. I would have kept it more simple. I also would have hired a former player, particularly someone younger in their 30’s, who’s been down Russell’s road and can relate to him, to be a mentor. I recall Davis saying he had Willie Brown in that capacity. lol. Come on. Willie Brown grew up in a different world than Russell. Basically, there isn’t sh yt Brown can tell him. Someone a little younger, as sort of a quality control coach. Have him on the sideline, too. I didn’t see anyone like that. So we know he didn’t have that, either. These are too things we KNOW, that I would have improved on if I were Al.
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So Hackett and tollner dont count for anything????
So are you suggesting the kid needed a babysitter, or a kick it with buddy?
How about he come in to camp weighing 245????
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
SnB
That kid puts the work in, DHB will be fine it’s just a matter of time with him. If Chaz isn’t here we wont have as good apassing game without him. But there are some kids on this team that can play. It’ll force guy’s like Nick Miller and JFord onto the field but in time we willl have a decent passing game.
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Priesttj,
A lot of kids put in the work. So does DMAC…most guys put in the work and want to succeed.
I am hoping DHB pulls through..because if he doesn’t, I don’t see this offense being any good.
DHB has to start showing. I hope he is outperforming the other receivers in training camp. All I am saying is that right now he is a big unknown.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
MR you don’t know squat all you know is what you’ve been led to believe. And what you’s like others to believe.
Truth be told the Raiders did more than they should’ve to help Russell and I know it for a fact. I’m not guessing like you are I know what they did and it didn’t matter what they did RUSSELL wouldn’t listen………….period
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
This is a GOLDEN opportunity for Murphy. His time on the field just literally doubled, and I have a hard time seeing him giving the position back.
DHB, you better be ready son!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Also, Just Win and Thec, I would have kept Kiffin on board, even though Kiffin didn’t want Russell. For one simple reason: Kiffin’s offense is better for Russell to learn in. Period. I would have kept Kiffin for the sake of improving my number one draft pick, and put my grudges aside. I would have made winning the first priority. But that’s just me.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Thec, O line is in trouble, Al needs to step up before the season starts, moments of good, moments of UH!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
This is a GOLDEN opportunity for Murphy. His time on the field just literally doubled, and I have a hard time seeing him giving the position back.
DHB, you better be ready son!
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My boy JFord is going to get more reps as well…
JFord <——- Is a maker…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
There was no bigger supporter for Russell than I was and I hoped he would at least consider a pay cut to stick around but that kid is just way too immature and ignorant for his own good.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I hope DHB steps up because if he doesn’t…this offense is doomed.
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I disagree with this.
They “hid” DHB last year, and they can do it again this year.
Murphy, JLH, and Ford are plenty. Especially with DMac and Bush healthy and in the lineup. Zack Miller will be the #1 target for the most part, so DHB doesn’t make or break us. Ford is faster than DHB so he can play the same role.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
This is a GOLDEN opportunity for Murphy. His time on the field just literally doubled, and I have a hard time seeing him giving the position back.
DHB, you better be ready son!
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JWiggle,
No way Murphy gives up that job. I think he takes it and runs with it. He was the most productive receiver last year and has been progressing nicely. He busts his backside and has looked pretty good in camp and preseason so far.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Also, Just Win and Thec, I would have kept Kiffin on board, even though Kiffin didn’t want Russell. For one simple reason: Kiffin’s offense is better for Russell to learn in. Period. I would have kept Kiffin for the sake of improving my number one draft pick, and put my grudges aside. I would have made winning the first priority. But that’s just me.
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From what I understand we did dumb down the play book for Jamarcus, and we only used a portion.
RMR, How much of the blame do you put on the player?
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
It’ll force guy’s like Nick Miller and JFord onto the field but in time we willl have a decent passing game.
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I can’t see Miller making the team without Chaz going on IR.
DHB
Murphy
JLH
Ford
Watkins
Chaz
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
MR you don’t know squat all you know is what you’ve been led to believe. And what you’s like others to believe.
Truth be told the Raiders did more than they should’ve to help Russell and I know it for a fact.
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I know for a fact the Raiders actually did FAR LESS than what they should have with Russell.
I would have simplified the offense.
I would have kept Kiffin on board, as a matter of fact, just for the simple fact that his system was perfect for Russell. Even if Kiffin was playing games and entertaining other offers. If he leaves, he leaves. But I sure as hell wouldn’t have fired him. He’s too valuable to Russell.
I also would have hired a mentor closer to Russell’s age. Someone in their 30s, who can relate to the hip hop generation. Al said something to the effect that Willie Brown was supposed to be Russell’s mentor? Are you serious? Little bit of an age gap there. We’re not going to recreate Russell’s child hood and try to let an old man raise him. It’s too late for that. Just get someone close to his age who’s on him like a shadow. Al did not do that, and he easily could have. Wouldn’t have put a dent in the payroll.
That’s just off the top of my head. There is so much more I would have done to make sure Russell didn’t become a waste. Al did not do enough.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Did you guys notice Houston drawing double teams already?
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
There was no bigger supporter for Russell than I was and I hoped he would at least consider a pay cut to stick around but that kid is just way too immature and ignorant for his own good.
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There’s a lot more Al could have done to change that. See above for examples.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Priest, I was with ya, didn’t know about the purple, been said a LOT of people knew about it, he had his chance, didn’t step up, time to go on, reality….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
My only real concern is the oline, and special teams…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
SnB
that’s where you are very wrong most kids don’t put in the work neccessary to be great but DHB does. He is an extremely hard worker who has the drive to be special and that sets him apart from a lot of players.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Peyton Manning is not a fan of Lane Kiffin
Lane Kiffin, Tennessee, USC, college football — posted by matt murschel on August, 23 2010 4:52 PM
There are a lot of people who are not fans of Lane Kiffin.
Former Tennessee and current Colts QB Peyton Manning isn’t a fan of Lane Kiffin. (REUTERS)
Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, most of the state of Tennessee and now add NFL quarterback Peyton Manning.
The former Volunteers and current Indianapolis Colts quarterback was on the The Dan Patrick Show this morning and he was asked what he would say to former Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin is he saw him on the street.
“It’s probably be a short conversation. I certainly got to know him when he was the head coach at Tennessee. I don’t have anything personal against him. But I think the one thing where Tennessee, as a whole group was kind of hurt, our pride was hurt, was that we didn’t think that Tennessee was a transition job. … I’ve always thought and the big orange nation thought that Tennessee was a destination job. Unless you were fired or retired, that was the place to be. …
Manning also was asked if he would ever consider coaching at Tennessee.
““I doubt it. I enjoy coaching young kids. We have a football camp in Louisiana. … I think it’d be hard in college to go on the recruiting trail. In the NFL, people will kind of say, ‘Well, you’re a good play-caller, you’d be a good coach.’ I’m only good at calling plays when I’m playing quarterback. I think at it when I get on the sidelines. I’ve called some plays in the past from the sidelines … and I stink at it.”
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Thec, we didn’t dumb down the playbook nearly enough for him. When Kiffin was here we were using more rollouts, simpler passing patterns that also give receivers more space, which gives him a bigger window to throw to.
As far as Russell’s accountability, maybe one day I’ll talk about what I would have done if I were Russell. And there IS more Russell could have done. Absolutely. But I’m talking about what I would have done if I were Al, and it’s a lot more than what he did, that’s for sure. I believe the person at the top of an organization is the most responsible. So when I’m talking about an organization, I tend to think of what more I would have done if I were leading it. That’s where I’m coming from.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Did you guys notice Houston drawing double teams already?
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Thats interesting, seems like a lot more scheming in the presea than most let on… I guess they want to protect the investment… Both cutler and romo have back aches…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Russell was ignorant and immature according to Priestj.
Agreed, but having given him 40 million, I gotta straighten that dummy out by hook or crook or baseball bat.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Watching our week one opponent play the Cardinals. Their defense looks pretty good and agressive. Blitzing the run and the pass, and often. Hope McFadden plays; it would be nice to see him on some screens and dropoffs to combat that if they do the same to us (and why wouldn’t they?)
I know it goes without saying, but Leinart is a huge dropoff from Warner. They’re confusing the heck out of him.
We are also going to have to be really disciplined in the gaps when Tennessee is on offense. All CJ needs is a crack and he’s in the defensive backfield.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
the big orange nation
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What the hell is manning talking about???
Only one NATION exist in all of sports….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
SnB
that’s where you are very wrong most kids don’t put in the work neccessary to be great but DHB does. He is an extremely hard worker who has the drive to be special and that sets him apart from a lot of players.
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That’s your opinion. But I think a lot of these kids are trying hard….just the spectacular busts grab the headlines.
Regardless, DHB has to translate that hard work like Louis Murphy and Zach Miller have translated that hard work into production.
He doesn’t have to be the elite receiver. He just needs to be serviceable….get 20 to 30 catches this year.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
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Thursday night in Los Angeles, FOX Sports brought out its biggest guns for a schmooze-and-food gala in honor of the Pacific 10 conference and its upcoming football season.
The event, held at the historic Twentieth Century Fox studios, was emceed by Joe Buck, FOX’s lead play-by-play announcer and was attended by nearly all of FOX’s top sports executives: chairman David Hill, vice-chairman Ed Goren, Fox Sports Networks president Randy Freer, who oversees all of the company’s regional sports channels, and several other top lieutenants.
The highlight — by far — was produced by Troy Aikman, FOX’s lead NFL color commentator, when he took the mic after Buck’s introductory comments.
Aikman, the 43-year-old former quarterback who starred at UCLA and led the Dallas Cowboys to three NFL titles, dove right into the controversy surrounding new USC head coach Lane Kiffin, whose hiring of former Tennessee Titans assistant Kennedy Pola is the subject of a lawsuit.
In his two years at UCLA, Aikman recalled, one of his big frustrations was UCLA’s inability to beat USC, which defeated the Bruins in 1987 and 1988, when Aikman was UCLA’s starter. “I realize why we could never beat SC,” Aikman said. “We didn’t steal any coaches from the NFL.”
The quip was met with a hearty number of “ooohs” from the crowd, which included senior administrators from all of the conference’s athletic departments, as well as sales and marketing executives from Pac-10 sponsors.
It’s unclear how Kiffin responded to the comment. He was sitting in the front row of the theater alongside the league’s other head coaches. Kiffin, 35, dressed in slacks and a slightly wrinkled, red button-down, was the only head coach not wearing a jacket.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Holy crap this guy will never get healthy! GEEEZ …time to draft another WR next year. The writings on the wall and the Raiders have to make a move.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Agreed, but having given him 40 million, I gotta straighten that dummy out by hook or crook or baseball bat.
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LMAO…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Russell was ignorant and immature. I agree. He had a drug problem, to boot. But Al Davis was too lazy in his approach to righting the issue.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Vince Young looking pretty good.
Leinart….whew….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I do think DHB is going to be just fine. I think he’ll be good for 2 or 3 catches per game, with a few 5 plus catches a game.
It’s pretty clear that it’s simply a confidence issue with DHB. His physical skills are off the charts, and Priest is right about him working on his craft. Route running, working with Nnamdi, juggs machine, etc.
Don’t let the kid catch 3 or 4 in a row with a TD mixed in there. Confidence could blow through the roof and we might have something.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
the big orange nation
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What the hell is manning talking about???
Only one NATION exist in all of sports….
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Your G@D D@M RIGHT.
ONE NATION….. The RAIDER NATION!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Don’t let the kid catch 3 or 4 in a row with a TD mixed in there. Confidence could blow through the roof and we might have something.
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exactly what he needs….
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
JWiggle,
I just need 20 to 30 receptions from DHB for the year.
Give me a couple big plays….he needs to be enough of a prescence that the defense has to at least think about him.
I would hate to see the opponents just roll coverage over to Murphy and Miller and call it the night.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
It is definitely time for a “bonafide” WR. I give Murphy and DHB this year to get it done. If not, agree with Terrapin that it may be time to make an investment!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
We need an O line, Al , you listening? You’ve done so good so far, watch what gets tossed…Please
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Did you guys notice Houston drawing double teams already?
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A little. R. Seymore was out though. He did not do much against Chi’s O-line.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
I think the lights can come on for the kid at some point.
But this year, the light needs to flash a few times for this team to have a chance at a fully functioning offenese.
Again, 20 to 30 catches….just give him enough.
Can’t have entire halves or entire games go by without even hearing his name.
Targeting DHB, even forcing a couple, should be a priority for ths offense
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
he needs to be enough of a prescence that the defense has to at least think about him.
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I don’t think you have to worry about that SnB. We have a legitimate option at QB now so you are not going to see 6′2, 215, 4.3 forty ignored.
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Time to go on a 4 mile run, will lurk back in later…
1 NATION…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Parting shot
Oline is the biggest need, start the rookies now…
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Thec, count me in, we need the help…out!
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
J Wiggle
as I said before he needs one huge play and everything will take off from there.
A lot of kids work very hard and want to be good but there is a difference between the guy’s who work hard and those who works so hard there isn’t much else they can do. Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant leave nothing to chance. From what I’ve seen of DHB he’s got that gene that says I want to get everything in me out and then some. Those 3 were great talents to be sure but they had a drive that was borderline sick. I don’t know if DHB is quite there but he’s close.
If you guy’s go back to early in the ffseason I posted that DHB was in the facility working out and the coaches hadn’t got there for the offseason workout. He was getting his weight training out of the way so he could start working on his technigue. Now we’ll see if everything he’s done this offseason pays off but it’s rare when it does look at Tommie Kelly.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Priesttj,
Again, hard work has to translate into production.
Just like a kid can study really hard and still end up with a C.
I don’t think its just a big play and boom its instant superstar.
His rookie year was a washout for various factors..some his fault others not…
confidence comes from repetition and success.
I would argue that if DHB were to have a 5 catch night and not have one catch go for more than 10 yds…would do more for his confidence than 1 kill shot bomb over the top.
DHB needs to become a complete receiver. CAtch em all…short, middle and deep.
If I was Hue Jackson…I am getting him started with screens and short throws to get his confidence up.
THen go over the top. eVeryone knows the kid has wheels…and I am sure that defenses protect against that….can he catch the hard ones…can he move the chains…over the middle….do that…then you have soemthing
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm
No teams waits forever for a player to get healthy. Every team has their limit. I just can’t believe he has another issue from STANDING AROUND TOO MUCH!?!?!?!???
Being a bit sarcastic but my gawd!
By the time he gets healthy Murhpy and DHB would surpass him in actual talent that can be put to work making him redundant. He’ll end up being just like Ronald Curry – injuries riddled career – who my the time he gets “healthy” he’s half the person he once was or could have been due to too many injuries. Its unfortunate but its just life and no one waits forever.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Parting shot
Oline is the biggest need, start the rookies now…
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Nah. Different schemes on both sides of the ball, and a head coach who’s more of a general and organizer than a cheerleader. I think our mediocre line play is more a result of that than bad players.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:03 pm
They pulled Leinart early. DA comes in and moves the offense.
Whew…a lot of QB busts taken in the last few years
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
gosh …maybe i should’ve thrown my hat in the ring for the draft at qb ..i could’ve ‘bust’ with the best of ‘em. n walk away with a $mil
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
SnB
You’re preaching to not only the choir but the Priest. I get it!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Priesttj,
Hopefully they try getting involved this weekend at home.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm
and here’s to hoping Schilens will not miss much if any regular season time
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
good luck …
Chaz Shilens appears to be having a Ron Curry(esk) career.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
The Titan’s defense is looking very fast and dominating themselves. Vince Young is looking good tonight. Throwing accurately which is an improvement for him. They are going to be tough.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Leinhart looked terrible. The Cardinals are looking very slow.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I know you’d like to see him but I’m not interested if he’s not 100% healthy I’d much rather see him 9/12/10 we can’t win this division in the preseason. If he plays a couple of series that’s enough for me. Can’t afford to risk him now.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Schilens – PUP or IR. What’s your guess?
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I think practice and training camp means something. Especially for a guy like DHB. And 20-30 catches this season are very low expectations, SnB.
As long as he isn’t allowed to hog playing time from others, simply because of paycheck, they may squeak by.
They’ll need solid contributions from JLH, Nick Miller and Ford.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I think they should have drummed up the playbook more for Russell.
It was the simple things he was terrible at (dumpoffs, screen passes, simple passes to the WR) and the hard stuff that he made look easy sometimes.
His best throws I ever saw were those two passes in his last game against the Chiefs when he was benched. The DHB drop and a beautiful high-degree of dificulty pass to Murphy that was called back.
But if he ever threw an easy screen pass I must have missed it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Put him on PUP just like last year, give him his bedrest or whatever he needs, I’m sick of Chaz. All he does is let you down.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Leinart won’t be starting when we play them, and it is a bummer.
Derek Anderson is way better.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I think they should have drummed up the playbook more for Russell.
It was the simple things he was terrible at (dumpoffs, screen passes, simple passes to the WR) and the hard stuff that he made look easy sometimes.
His best throws I ever saw were those two passes in his last game against the Chiefs when he was benched. The DHB drop and a beautiful high-degree of difficulty pass to Murphy that was called back.
But if he ever threw an easy screen pass I must have missed it.
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Wouldn’t have made any difference. He was doomed. Being in the grape daze, he was barely able to get above beginner level. Regarding the couple passes you referred to, remember, even a broken watch is right twice a day. He had his chances & blew them. He’s gone & let’s keep it that way.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Anderson IS much better than Leinhart. Looks like Leinhart at best is just another back-up – on a good day.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Put him on PUP just like last year, give him his bedrest or whatever he needs, I’m sick of Chaz. All he does is let you down.
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Ouch…the guy is not hurt on purpose. He’s just an injury proned guy and that happens. NFL careers are not guaranteed for a variety of reasons…injuries included.
I say let him rehab etc….but from a personnel and planning standpoint…you have to move on assuming he’s not going to be there and let him surprise
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Ain’t trying to bring him back, JB.
Just saying I don’t blame the Raiders very much for his issues. If we simplified the playbook, he could have been worse. Jamarcus made simple very difficult, and is raw talent made difficult seem simple on a few rare occasions.
I have the over/under on how long until he owes the IRS money at 3.5 years.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
I see DHB with 50-60 catches 6-8 TD’s 800+ yards, that’s what I expect.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Yep. From a planning standpoint this team has to move on. Just can’t hope and pray he’s going to get healthy and more importantly stay healthy.
It is a disappointment …and you can read between the lines of Cables Q&A that he’s disappointed as well (and maybe even fed up)
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
They need to put DHB on this Sports Science thing
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 pm
I think if DHB can get us 20 to 30 receptions…with a few of those some long bombs…he will have helped this offense.
He’s a project. Its going to take time.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:47 pm
JFB
Good. Misunderstood your intent.
If he doesn’t change his posse and group that he hangs around with and change his lifestyles, he may not make it to age 25. He really needs to grow up and take responsibility for his failures. He likes to buy his way out of a situation and that won’t be a option all that much longer. AD’s attorney’s will eat up his reserves just for legal costs.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Yep. From a planning standpoint this team has to move on. Just can’t hope and pray he’s going to get healthy and more importantly stay healthy.
It is a disappointment …and you can read between the lines of Cables Q&A that he’s disappointed as well (and maybe even fed up)
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Yeah, but hey, he was a 7th round pick. A 6′4 225lb receiver with good hands, runs a 4.4 and has toughness (on the field) was available in the 7th round for a reason.
So they spent the pick and it appears not to be working out. Still a good pick.
Louis Murphy was a great pickup. He can take on Schilens role with no problem…
The key is to have DHB step up and help.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Nick Mangold, C NY Jets signed 7 yr $55M. Too bad. I was hoping for a hold out and possible trade.
Maybe AD ought to get word to Revis & tell him come to Oakland and I’ll give you what you want. That would keep him out of camp.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
SnB
Did you see that sports science get off, that’s what quick twitch muscle fibre gives you. Larry Fitzgerald has it that’s why he’s able to catch that ball upside down. Carter talked abut his vision well in that instant great vision helped but QTMF was the key. Chris Johnson has it as well. When you see guy’s explode from a stand still position you know they have it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Priesttj,
Yes, that’s what I call quickness…being able to get to full speed fast.
Something I struggled with in my athletic days. I was fast…just not as quick as I needed to be.
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Unless there is a big change from what we are seeing, the Cardinals are a non-issue top 5 drafting team next year.
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Hey MR…didn’t Russell not want anything to do with Jeff Garcia? Isn’t that why Garcia asked to be released? He knew he was coming in to be a backup and Russell didn’t want to learn from him. So, Garcia said screw it…wouldn’t you have? Cold be all speculation but Garcia’s dad was tailgating with us and he said that Jeff was happy to be back home and would have loved to mentor the Raiders #1 to be exactly that…#1
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Parting shot
Oline is the biggest need, start the rookies now…
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Nah. Different schemes on both sides of the ball, and a head coach who’s more of a general and organizer than a cheerleader. I think our mediocre line play is more a result of that than bad players.
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So you think satele and morris are quality starters.
What about our RG? Think he starts on the other 31 teams? So are you saying we have the talent but not the scheme????
Furthermore its preseason, how do you know what the schemes are going to be under jackson?
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Tititans are looking good
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
The Titans are really going to test our O-Line, in the real season.
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I said the Titans looked good before. The Raiders may look impressive relative to their past but I don’t know if they can beat the Titans opening day. Thats one tuff matchup. If they succeed, then they will go a long way.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
VY is just too damn hard to play against. Its going to take a total team effort on D to beat this guy. McClain will have to earn his paycheck this day and keep his eye of VY – a tough matchup for anyone let alone a rookie.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
They may well do that and CJ will get his yards but the objective is to win. AZ looked disinterested more than anything. Starters are just trying to stay healthy and backups are fighting for their lives. cutdowns are a week away so to overeact to these games is somewhat naive. The Titans will always play good defense but their offense is decent not great.
VY can hurt you and hurt himself. He’s very difficult to tackle and so is CJ other than that their offense is OK. If we run at them we should win, their Dline is smallish. The problem is they’re at home where they play well so we have to get 2 t/o’s and a big play on offense to beat them.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Front 7 must get pressure (easier said than done) and the QB has to go done fast! You just can’t let them get off. CJ (Tenn) is just deadly. They must control the line of scrimmage.
But heck …this holds in any game so nothing new here.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I didn’t see ths game Priest. I watched the prior game adn thats the impression I came back with. i.e. These boys are going to be tuff to beat.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I think they should have drummed up the playbook more for Russell.
It was the simple things he was terrible at (dumpoffs, screen passes, simple passes to the WR) and the hard stuff that he made look easy sometimes.
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I didn’t see that. I saw way too much of the 10 yard comebacks. The bottom line is that no NFL team gives you the deep pass, so it’s no way to start off a rookie QB who already had a ton of question marks. I would agree that Russell even struggled with the simpler stuff but that’s no reason to ditch it. You have to teach the position properly, and you have to get him comfortable being an NFL quarterback. Truth is, the Raiders DID try to open it up with Russell, way too prematurely. Just because he bowled a strike or two doesn’t mean it was a good idea.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Does Chris Johnson have turrets? He keeps twitching and spitting
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
JB, I think Al could have done more to get Russell off of drugs. In fact, it seems as if Al gave the behavior his blessing so that he would have a better case getting out of paying Russell.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Ain’t trying to bring him back, JB.
Just saying I don’t blame the Raiders very much for his issues. If we simplified the playbook, he could have been worse.
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We have no way of knowing that, because we didn’t simplify the play book, which is common sense when you have someone like Russell.
The whole point I’m making is that Al could have done a lot more to help Russell. To say that it wouldn’t have helped does not refute the simple fact that Al STILL could have tried. Did he have something better to do? He started Russell anyway. Why not do everything you can to make him as good as you can? Al could have done a lot more.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
You can’t help someone that doesn’t want to help himself. No matter how hard you try.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Hey MR…didn’t Russell not want anything to do with Jeff Garcia?
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If Al brought Garcia in to be a mentor to Russell and nothing else, he could have gotten someone a lot more qualified than Garcia. Garcia is almost old enough to be Russell’s dad, first of all. He grew up in an entirely different era, and under entirely different economic conditions. And, it didn’t have to be a player, anyway. He could have just hired a personal coach for him. Sure, that’s a rare thing, and it’s kind of embarrassing. But the Raiders are no strangers to rare things and embarrassment.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
# EMRaiders Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
You can’t help someone that doesn’t want to help himself. No matter how hard you try.
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The only way to know that is to try. Al didn’t. At least not hard enough.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Personally can’t wait to face VY and CJ2K
Raiders 27
Titans 13
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
T’pin
We have a 45% chance of beating the Titans in Nashville IMO but if we can get hits on VY that goes way up. The problem is they got that HB who’s todays version of Gale Sayers. You can’t turn the dogs loose unles you have a lead. Fisher is a very good coach who will not go away from CJ even if he’s down 14points.
So that’s why I’ve been hammering the point about DMC and DHB being healthy we have to have some lightning ourselves to get out of this with a win. MBush can run on them and get 100+ yards and a TD but we’re going to need 14 points in the 4th to win. IMHO
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
LOL @ the Raiders holding Tennessee to 13 points.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
gotta go, back in 45mins.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Thats it, mrs! How in the frik do you know what Al did or didnt do,jackarse? STFU,idiot. Cant stand youre pms arse,go find youre niner blog,hater
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Hendu
I don’t know why people engage that idiot in a conversation. He’ll say anything that comes to mind as long as you’ll engage him in his nonsense.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
The score will probably be somewhere around 20-20, and then come down to a late turnover and score (probably a last-mintue field goal). Titans have home field and the advantage of being used to that ungodly Tennessee summer heat and humidity. Bush and Reese need to pund the rock!
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
DMC showing up a lighting up the NFL from here on out would bring Joker-type smiles to my face. I believe he can but only if used in the ‘right’ way. Hue Jackson has shown us a lot and lets hope he can get DMC off to the races.
DHB, I’m pulling for the boy. We just haven’t seen it yet – only comments of how much better he has gotten in just 1 offseason. And if you think about it, if he actually did improve so much in just 1 offseason, maybe they got the pick right assuming he continues to improve as dramatically going forward. Lets hope thats the case. I hope thats the case – but this all will have to be proven by facts – by production – by getting his azz on the field and play ball!
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Didn’t Al said in a press release recently that the Raiders tried everything they could to help Russell succeed? No way to know how hard Al tried either, right?
I’m not a Davis kool aid drinker by any means, but I am a fair observer, and what I saw was a guy (Russell) that might’ve had the intentions to do good, but didn’t have the drive or dedication.
I don’t know if JR was addicted or not, but he was using, and like any “user”, sometimes that takes away from your dedication.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Hendu, calm down. I’m not going to respond to your personal insults but since you do have a point in there, I’ll respond to it.
I’m going by what I KNOW Al didn’t do. I don’t know what Al did behind closed doors. But I did not see a simplified offense for Russell. I’ve read Just Fire Baby’s opinion and I just don’t agree with it. I didn’t see that simplification of our offense…except for when Kiffin was here. After he left, it was right back to the old “b&b”, as so many fans call it. 10 yard come backs, a few too many shots down field, mixed in with some of the WCO stuff from Gruden and Tressman’s playbook. Just throwing dung against the wall, basically. No cohesiveness or tempo.
Also, if Russell had a personal coach, I didn’t see him. Why wasn’t he on the sideline? I know it’s embarrassing to have a personal coach for your QB but it’s equally as embarrassing to take the gamble on him in the first place and to endure the results of throwing him to the wolves, which is what Al did.
Al could have moved mountains for Russell behind closed doors. But he also could have done what I described above, as well, and IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMPLE. But he didn’t. AND I KNOW HE DIDN’T. If I were Al, I would have done those things. That’s my point.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
mintue = minute
pund = pound
tbone = careless dickweed
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
EMRaiders Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Didn’t Al said in a press release recently that the Raiders tried everything they could to help Russell succeed?
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I’m not talking about Al’s words, I’m talking about his actions.
He could have simplified the offense for Russell. Didn’t.
He could have brought in a personal coach. He didn’t.
Those are two things off the top of my head Al could have done to salvage the Russell situation, that HE DID NOT DO, when he easily could have.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Al’s problem is that he sometimes has too much faith that someone with a supreme amount of God-given talent will also have the mental capacity to be a leader. JaDrankus was never a leader, and he desperately needed a mentor. Too bad – he could have been great; now, he’s just a punch line …
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I don’t know anything about Al’s problems with faith in people. I don’t know the man personally. All I know is what he COULD HAVE DONE to help Russell, yet didn’t.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
THe key to the Raiders beating Tennessee is stopping the big play. The 80 yard cut back run….the 75 yard screen….the defense has to stop that stuff to have a chance.
Make Tennessee earn their points….unfortunately, it appears VY has gotten better in the passing game.
They will be a test for sure….offense needs to put points on the board obviously
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
JC is the starter, with Grads and Boller battling for the #2 and 3 spots.
Frye will either be cut or placed on IR and Brennan should definitely be put on the practice squad and a have a chance to make the team next year if he learns the offense and improves.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Al didn’t simplify the playbook for Russell, the coaches did, and they are on record as well as players saying that they did. Can’t remember who, but I’m sure somebody in here can.
Al did get a personal trainer for Russell. Again, can’t think of the guys name, but he was an ex-Raider. Spent all offseason with him. Got him one of the top QB coaches in the league as well.
At some point, besides giving someone millions, and trying to protect your investment, you have to see something back from them.
Like I said before, can’t help someone that doesn’t want to help themselves.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
As you may recall, Brett Favre had a dependency issue back when the Pack was making its Super Bowl run. They knew, but didn’t go public with it; that was Brett’s call. If JaDrankus had done the same thing, I can almost guarantee the outcome would have been much better for both him and the Raiders.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Bet the UNDER in the Raider/Titan game! Heyoooo….
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:37 pm
EMRaiders Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Al didn’t simplify the playbook for Russell, the coaches did, and they are on record as well as players saying that they did.
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I didn’t see it. I saw the same old 10 yard comebacks, shots downfield into coverage, and some of Gruden and Tressmans’ playbook, sadly enough. They did not simplify the offense enough for him. Kiffin’s offense was perfect for Russell. But when he left, his offense left with him. It was back to the same old Raider offense. That’s what I saw. If some coaches tried to simplify the offense for Russell, they didn’t try hard enough.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Raidertbone, all I know is Al could have done more. I don’t know what when on with Favre or how Green Bay dealt with it. I just know the Raiders could have done more to help Russell.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
He could have simplified the offense for Russell. Didn’t.
He could have brought in a personal coach. He didn’t.
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Both of those things were done.
Russell’s playbook was simplified to the point that the offense was basically neutered.
And why do you think Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner were brought in?
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner? Are you trying to make me laugh? They need someone a little younger who can relate to Russell.
And, they didn’t simplify the playbook enough. Should have been much more conservative, focusing on ball control and high percentage passes.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
355, youre talking about Als actions,he picked him #1,paid him, BIG TIME,brought in excellent coaches,had Anderson guide him,follow him,etc Oh, im refering to qb COACHES,successful with others in the past,etc! I also say youre wrong about the playbook, many have said the Raiders cut out much of the playbook cuz he WASNT GETTING IT! AL did his job,JRUSS did NOT!
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
So it was the coaches fault? It was Al’s fault? It was the purple’s fault?
Wow, I feel sorry for Russell. He is truly a victim in all of this. He DIDN’T DO anything and all these things just kept happening to him. Poor guy.
Well, at least he can say he walked away with a few million and a little diamond statue of himself.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
hendu Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
355, youre talking about Als actions,he ….brought in excellent coaches,
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LOL.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Say what you want, EMR Raiders. It doesn’t chance the FACT that the Raiders could have done A LOT more to help Russell.
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
‘doesn’t change’, not chance
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Mrs,you actually made me laugh,Hackett and Tollner are chumps,But the niner JA has it figured out! Its goin be a long year for ya,screen writer,as B might say,a Raider Fan,try again!
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
I keep telling you guy’s MR doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s just making you respond to his madness. Big Al did everything he could legally do to help Russell it just didn’t work. Russell wanted the rest of his money and Big Al said no………..end of story.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Someone who can relate to russell should have been hired as his QB coach? REALLY?
Lets see……
Russell is a QB and Hackett is renowned as being the best QB coach in the league but many.
So how does that not relate to Russell and his job of being an NFL QB
DUUUUUUUUMB
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Say what you want, EMR Raiders. It doesn’t chance the FACT that the Raiders could have done A LOT more to help Russell.
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Who is your source? Do not include Jaslugs last interview please.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Priest, I like that…end of story! We all could argue and argue til we run out of breath about this topic, but…he is gone…whether we agree that what was done was right or not…we have to move on people! Jason Campbell is now the qb of the Raiders…unless any of us can use the Jedi mind trick on Uncle Al…it is what it is!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
EMRaiders Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Didn’t Al said in a press release recently that the Raiders tried everything they could to help Russell succeed?
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I’m not talking about Al’s words, I’m talking about his actions.
He could have simplified the offense for Russell. Didn’t.
He could have brought in a personal coach. He didn’t.
Those are two things off the top of my head Al could have done to salvage the Russell situation, that HE DID NOT DO, when he easily could have.
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E-rager, before you go and blow up like a sh!t slinging monkey.
I disagree with your usual asshatery. Both of your whines were attempted with Jaslug.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Big Al brought in Garcia to help Russell adjust but Garcia wanted to play so he left Russell on his own. By that time it was too late to bring anyone else in. By then Russell was well on his way to bustville. The kid delusional and needs to someone who’s willing to put their foot up his considerable rump. That person died between year two and three and Eddie Anderson did what he could (baby sitting him). Nothing worked because he can’t watch film and work on his technigue for him, no one can. If someone could just do that for him he would’ve suceeded. But that is impossible.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
hendu Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Mrs,you actually made me laugh,Hackett and Tollner are chumps,
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I never said they were chumps. They’re good coaches. But just tell me how either of them could be a personal coach/motivator to Russell? What can they tell him?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Big Al did everything he could legally do to help Russell
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No, he didn’t. He opened the offense up since Kiffin left, which is never good for a young QB with problems.
There was no attempt to bring anyone in, that Russell could relate to, to be a personal coach/motivator to him. basically a babysitter. Russell needed it. There’s no reason Al couldn’t have done it. I would have done anything to salvage a number one draft pick. Al didn’t.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
raidersxy Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Someone who can relate to russell should have been hired as his QB coach? REALLY?
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I never said QB coach. I said personal coach/motivator. Someone to basically babysit him. Why not? If Russell doesn’t like it, he can quit. I would have done it if I were Al.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
# Drexl Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Who is your source? Do not include Jaslugs last interview please.
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The playcalling on the field. The Raiders opened up their offense since Kiffin left, which only hurt Russell. He needed a conservative offense with high percentage passes. He wasn’t ready to spread it out and sling it. Not in this league. He had a lot of baby steps to go first, and Al just scrapped that plan and threw him the wolves. My source is the playcalling, on the field, that we all saw with our own two eyes.
My source that Russell never had any kind of personal coach or motivator is that we never saw one. Where was he? Why wasn’t he on the sideline? Why did he let Russell go out all of those nights and get smashed on syrup? That’s the whole idea of hiring someone like that, to basically babysit Russell. Most NFL teams don’t babysit their players, but most NFL teams don’t waste a first round draft pick on a long shot like Russell, either. Like I said earlier, embarrassment is nothing new to the Raiders.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
priesttj Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Big Al brought in Garcia to help Russell adjust
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Wrong move. Needed somebody much younger, and who could relate to Russell. And, it didn’t have to be a player or any particular skills coach. Could have just been some former player to tag along Russell and babysit him. Most teams dont’ do that, but then again most teams don’t take a chance on a guy like Russell to begin with. Al could have done these things to salvage Russell, but he DIDN’T. Al could have done more to help Russell, but he didn’t. Period.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Al brought Garcia, Hue, and hired a player to watch JR. What more can he do?!
Keep Biotching you little Retard!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Big Al brought in Garcia to help Russell adjust but Garcia wanted to play so he left Russell on his own.
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It is not that Garcia WANTED to play, he knew he SHOULD play over the strong armed lazy boy. Also JR was very disrespectful to Garcia, when Garcia tried to advise JR, and coach him up.
RAIDER on.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Once Juggs uncle died it was all over for him.
Trust me, JaMierda needed to step up and be a man and take responsibility for his own actions and wanting to succeed. The Raiders aren’t supposed to be babysitter 24 hours a day.
60% JaMierdas fault and 40% the Raiders fault due to the coaching and offensive play calling turnover.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Chris Johnson has some serious tourette’s. Every time they showed him on the bench he was head twitching and spitting
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:34 pm
ENVY!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Good evening Raccoon.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
If I were Al, I would have done the following things to get the best out of Russell:
1) I would have kept Kiffin at all costs. Kiffin’s offense was PERFECT for Russell. High percentage passes, lots of rollouts, play action, cross patterns, that tend to get green receivers like ours more separation. Whatever personal problems I had with Kiffin, I would have put aside for the sake of WINNING. After all, my motto would be, JUST WIN BABY, and my actions as an owner would back it up.
2) Once Russell began to show signs of having problems, be it with work ethic or off field problems like drug use, I would have hired babysitters to hold his hand everywhere. He’s a young kid, grew up in a rough environment, and I would have basically made his environment in Oakland ENTIRELY SHELTERED, like a kid. He doesn’t like it, he can leave. Look at the money I just paid for him. I want the best out of him, and I can’t get that if he’s screwing up his life. So I’m going to do everything within my legal power not to let him screw up his life.
That’s what I would do.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Ok Mr,381, what was Eddie Andersons role? And thruout the NFL ,how many players would you say (381)need babysitters? The RAIDERS went above and beyond w/ JRuss,from my view!Lets move on to the whiners,and gear up for Tenn!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Al brought Garcia, Hue, and hired a player to watch JR. What more can he do?!
Keep Biotching you little Retard!!
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Wow. “retard”. Good one.
Anyway, who did Al hire just to watch Russell? And where was he when Russell was out getting screwed up? That would be this guy’s job, to shadow Russell and not let him do anything, basically. Call the f’n police if he’s about to get high, if you have to. This players’ job, his ONLY job, is to keep Russell out of trouble. But I never knew we had such a mentor, anyway. Who was he? Does he have a name?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
agreed Jason Campbell is here Russell isn’t and the issue is dead as Michael Jackson. I think if we had to go through everything we’ve been through getting Campbell was worth it. This guy is the real deal and soon enough everyone will realize that.
I would just like to get the rest of this team healthy as possible. So we can see what we really have.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:38 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Big Al brought in Garcia to help Russell adjust but Garcia wanted to play so he left Russell on his own.
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It is not that Garcia WANTED to play, he knew he SHOULD play over the strong armed lazy boy. Also JR was very disrespectful to Garcia, when Garcia tried to advise JR, and coach him up.
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If Russell was disrespectful to Garcia, it was because he didn’t respect him. Respect must be earned. That’s why if Al brought in Garcia just to mentor Russell, he should have gone with someone younger and who could relate to Russell more. Jeff Garcia? Why not bring in the cast of Melrose Place to mentor Russell while we’re at it? Get a clue.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Good evening Raccoon.
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Evenin O, NATION.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
The Raiders aren’t supposed to be babysitter 24 hours a day.
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Says who? Is there some rule that says the Raiders can’t be babysitters 24 hours a day? If I were Al, I would have hired someone to do just that, babysit Russell. Every minute of the day. Anything to keep my high priced number one draft pick out of trouble. Al didn’t care enough, though.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Any new word on satele?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Didn’t we hire our ex saftery(J Cooper) to watch JR?
BTW, I like calling you retard too.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
hendu Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Ok Mr,381, what was Eddie Andersons role?
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I don’t know. What was his role? to be another old guy who Russell couldn’t relate to?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Raider OO,for Jim OTTO.Opinion of pre season so far is? Got to get DMC ready for Tenn,I see Bloody Mary on that morning,and the menu is large! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Thec,
I don’t wish injury on any player, but I wish Satele a slow recovery.
Sign Mawae!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Didn’t we hire our ex saftery(J Cooper) to watch JR?
BTW, I like calling you retard too.
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You can call me all the names you want. Doesn’t make your argument look any smarter.
And, whoever Al hired to babysit Russell didn’t do his job. I would give this guy strict orders to call the cops on Russell if he has to. You see Russell about to drink codeine, about to put a joint in his mouth, basically you see Russell do anything beyond a couple of beers and you tell him firmly that you’re calling the cops on his ass. That’s what I would have done. I would have done everything I could to save him.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
As long as Russell was on my team, I would have had him blanketed constantly. The only privacy he would have had is in a bathroom.
I also would have simplified the offense for him, to the point where it needed to be. Not just a little. I would have ran a high school offense if I had to. Anything to get him comfortable back there and bring up his percentage.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Hendu,
Was Cooper or Anderson?
-Great pass Defense (ability to rush the passer from different positions).
-improved run Defense, and I think this Defense can finish in the top 12 this year.
-OL is our weakness, and the WR situation is getting worse.
-I like DMC for 20 touches per game (15 runs & 5 passes), and give Bush around 20 carries per game.
R A I D E R S!!!!
I miss Gilbert. lol
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
And I love all of these names you guys are throwing out there who were supposed to be Russell’s personal coaches. Eddie Anderson? lol. Is that the guy who used to play for us, like in the ’80s? What makes him qualified?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
If Russell was disrespectful to Garcia, it was because he didn’t respect him. Respect must be earned. That’s why if Al brought in Garcia just to mentor Russell, he should have gone with someone younger and who could relate to Russell more. Jeff Garcia? Why not bring in the cast of Melrose Place to mentor Russell while we’re at it? Get a clue.
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Are you serous dude, did you really just write that? LMFAO!
I am guessing you don’t have ANY experance with guys like JR. Oh wait let me guess, you have had MANY, right?
Many of us do not respect our bosses, coaches, teachers, ect… that does not mean we disrespect them, or put them down in front of others, like the whole team. Garcie had a GREAT work ethic! The hope was it would rub off on JR. It did not.
Do you think a guy like DHB, couldn’t learn from a guy like James Jett? Because they are not from the same era?
MR, di dyou play Football? Ever?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
hendu Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Raider OO,for Jim OTTO.Opinion of pre season so far is? Got to get DMC ready for Tenn,I see Bloody Mary on that morning,and the menu is large! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
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Evenin hendu
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RMR,
The insults are just for fun, and I didn’t think they bothered you because you call us names all the time. I will stop .
You said what did Al do to help JR?
To answe your question:
- brought a Vet QB to mentor him.
- added a passing game Co, and a QB coach.
- signed Hue Jackson
- brought an ex player to watch JR!
What else do you want him to do? Watch him himself.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Satele injury is huge!
Who starts at C this week?
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Many of us do not respect our bosses, coaches, teachers, ect… that does not mean we disrespect them,
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Disrespect = to not respect someone. If you don’t respect someone, you hence disrespect them. Some people are more coy than others about expressing their lack of respect for someone.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
As long as Russell was on my team, I would have had him blanketed constantly. The only privacy he would have had is in a bathroom.
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Boy that would have taught his somthing.
Respect? NO
NFL Defences? NO
Work ethic? NO
Out routs? No
Timing? No
Toutch? No
Leadership? NOOOOOO
Toughness? NOOOO
Self disapline? NOOOO
How to be a DEPENDENT? YES
How to be LAZY? YES
How to be unresponsable? YESSS
In other words, it would make him a strong armed CHILD!
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
403,now youre just silly,period!please just STOP with the nonsense. He was An NFL QB,and now you suggest a HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSE? You feeling alright? You gotta be a troll
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Thec,
I don’t wish injury on any player, but I wish Satele a slow recovery.
Sign Mawae!
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ITs too late to be bringing in old veterans. You have to go with the team we’ve got.
Mawae? Why is he still on the block? Probably because age and injury have taken its toll.
Hope Satele gets better and is ready to start on day 1. He’s our best choice. Gotta go with the team we’ve got.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
RMR,
I have to disagree with you on that. I agree that he didn’t help JR by drafting DHB, by not drafting OL, and by not surrounding him with enough talent to help him win, which wouldn’t have helped since he was more focused on getting high.
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raider O,
Again, whoever he brought in to watch Russell, as you put it, didn’t do their job. Russell was out getting high on codeine syrup when this person, whoever he is, was supposed to be watching him. Who is it, anyway? One of you said Eddie Anderson. lol. Can he even stay awake long enough to watch Russell? lol. Then one of you threw another name out there. When you guys figure out who this guy was who watched Russell, let me know. Whoever he was, he DID NOT do his job.
Also, again, the offense wasn’t simple enough for Russell. The offense Russell played in was a mess. Part b&b, part vertical game, part WCO, just throwing dung, basically. No organization, no rhythm, no cohesiveness. Keeping Kiffin could have fixed that. But Al put his personal grudges above Russell’s development.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Many of us do not respect our bosses, coaches, teachers, ect… that does not mean we disrespect them,
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Disrespect = to not respect someone. If you don’t respect someone, you hence disrespect them. Some people are more coy than others about expressing their lack of respect for someone.
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Have you had any social interactions in the last few years?
Just because you do not “respect” someone, does not mean you ACT disrespectful to them.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Satele injury is huge!
Who starts at C this week?
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I let V run with the 1’s, 2’s, and 3’s….Next 2 games.
Every practice he runs withthe 1’s
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Dirty Raccoon, you can make excuses for Al’s laziness all you want. If I owned the Raiders, I would have done a lot more to save Russell. That’s just me.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
To tell thee truth I like both Campbell and Boller it appeears Boller has finally starting to realize his potential under Hackett. If he has another quality outting we will have a very strong backup for Campbell.
Boller has looked better than any QB we had in camp last year.
Als I’ve read where some of you don’t care for Marcel Reece at FB. We’ve had him for 2 years and it’s finally stating to pay off if he continues to develope at FB he addds a great dimension of hands and speed for a FB he looks faster than Bush at 240+ it looks like a very nice fit.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
# hendu Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
403,now youre just silly,period!please just STOP with the nonsense. He was An NFL QB,and now you suggest a HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSE? You feeling alright? You gotta be a troll
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Well, true. He was in the NFL. But we’re talking the Raiders here, who are barely an NFL team anymore. Any offense that would have given Russell a higher percentage of completed passes. If you have to go back to basics and take from a high school playbook, so be it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Raider O,
Again, whoever he brought in to watch Russell, as you put it, didn’t do their job. Russell was out getting high on codeine syrup when this person, whoever he is, was supposed to be watching him.
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Right ha ha ha ha! Cause you have never out smarted you babysitter? I used to think you had a clue MR.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
SnB,
I don’t think its too late. He is a vet, and can learn fast due to his exp. We can’t afford to have a bad OL again. We don’t have P Manning & CJ2K, so we need the OL to do their job.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
DirtyRaccoon, a good evening to ya!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
RMR,
I have to disagree with you on that. I agree that he didn’t help JR by drafting DHB, by not drafting OL, and by not surrounding him with enough talent to help him win, which wouldn’t have helped since he was more focused on getting high.
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Those are ADDITIONAL ways Al could have helped Russell. Thanks for helping my argument.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Just because you do not “respect” someone, does not mean you ACT disrespectful to them.
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Why not? If someone doesn’t respect you, it’s going to show one way or another. Are you so sensitive as to where you need people who don’t respect you to pretend they do, even when you know they don’t? I’d rather earn their respect. And the bottom line is, Jeff Garcia is NEVER going to earn the respect of someone from Russell’s background. Get a clue.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Dirty Raccoon, you can make excuses for Al’s laziness all you want. If I owned the Raiders, I would have done a lot more to save Russell. That’s just me.
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Is this your way of not answering the question, or are you just being lazy?
Have you “owned”, or “Ran” anything?
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Raider O,
Again, whoever he brought in to watch Russell, as you put it, didn’t do their job. Russell was out getting high on codeine syrup when this person, whoever he is, was supposed to be watching him.
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Right ha ha ha ha! Cause you have never out smarted you babysitter? I used to think you had a clue MR.
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If his babysiter got outsmarted, he didn’t do his job. What am I paying this babysitter for if Russell can elude him and get high? And I don’t buy for one second that this babysitter wouldn’t know when Russell was getting high. Remember, I’d have given him strict orders to call the police if he SUSPECTED Russell was getting high. What cop’s going to turn down a tip that a star athlete is getting high? That’s the bust they all dream of.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Dirty Raccoon, I wasn’t aware you asked me a question. All I saw was that you ran down all of Russell’s faults, and my response is that I still would have done more to help him if I were Al. What was your question? I missed it. I’m not ducking you at all, dude. Just never saw a question.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Why not? If someone doesn’t respect you, it’s going to show one way or another. Are you so sensitive as to where you need people who don’t respect you to pretend they do, even when you know they don’t? I’d rather earn their respect. And the bottom line is, Jeff Garcia is NEVER going to earn the respect of someone from Russell’s background. Get a clue.
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Do you live a gated communitie? Tell me, what do you know about “people” with backgrounds like JR?
Start answering some questions, or be exposed for the idget you are.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Depending on the severity of injury, we have 4 options at C.
1. Morris <——- not the answer…
2. V <——- Needs to be starting somewhere…
Continue to devleop at C…
3. sign a vet <——-Mawae
4. Trade <——- Good look this time of year.
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Pick your Poison, Peril, Problem or Producer.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Raider O,my cousin Gilbert had to return to Canada,sure you understand his forced departure! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Do you live a gated communitie? Tell me, what do you know about “people” with backgrounds like JR?
…………….
What does Jeff Garcia know?
Or Hollywood Eddie Anderson?
And, I don’t know how to relate to someone from Russell’s background, but I would have hired someone who did.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Dirty Raccoon, I wasn’t aware you asked me a question. All I saw was that you ran down all of Russell’s faults, and my response is that I still would have done more to help him if I were Al. What was your question? I missed it. I’m not ducking you at all, dude. Just never saw a question.
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Go back and read dude. MANY MANY questions I just asked you. So far you are proving me right.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Well, I guess I am ducking your question, Dirty Raccoon. Although I’d be more than happy to answer it if you repeat it. I’m not going back to look it up. I thought your point was Russell’s flaws, and I gave a response. Must have missed your question. If you really wanted an answer, you’d simply repeat it. If not, we’re moving on from your question.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
What does Jeff Garcia know?
Or Hollywood Eddie Anderson?
And, I don’t know how to relate to someone from Russell’s background, but I would have hired someone who did.
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Both spent MANY years with A holes just like JR.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
JaMarshmallow is a piece of sh1t. End of story. Nobody can could have helped him but himself.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
RMR,
According to Jerry McD (3/16/2010), it was Eddie Anderson.
You are right Hendu!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Raider O,
Mawae ain’t coming. They will roll with the rookie before bringing in some veteran at this point.
maybe Jake Grove comes back…he’s on the outs with Miami
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:13 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
What does Jeff Garcia know?
Or Hollywood Eddie Anderson?
And, I don’t know how to relate to someone from Russell’s background, but I would have hired someone who did.
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Both spent MANY years with A holes just like JR.
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They’re too old.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# Try Some Reality Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
JaMarshmallow is a piece of sh1t. End of story. Nobody can could have helped him but himself.
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I still would have tried harder to help him if I were Al, and there’s plenty that could have been done.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Just pray (smile) Satele’s OK by season opener. I don’t like any of the other options. Veldheer is a rookie (disaster) he just can’t pull it off IMO. I prefer a vet if he can’t go mabe Morris can get us through the first 2 starts but I don’t like it one bit.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Hendu,
He will be back!! lol
RAIDERS!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Here are a few MR. I am waiting.
Are you serous dude, did you really just write that? LMFAO!
I am guessing you don’t have ANY experance with guys like JR. Oh wait let me guess, you have had MANY, right?
Many of us do not respect our bosses, coaches, teachers, ect… that does not mean we disrespect them, or put them down in front of others, like the whole team. Garcie had a GREAT work ethic! The hope was it would rub off on JR. It did not.
Do you think a guy like DHB, couldn’t learn from a guy like James Jett? Because they are not from the same era?
MR, di dyou play Football? Ever?
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DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Many of us do not respect our bosses, coaches, teachers, ect… that does not mean we disrespect them,
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Disrespect = to not respect someone. If you don’t respect someone, you hence disrespect them. Some people are more coy than others about expressing their lack of respect for someone.
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Have you had any social interactions in the last few years?
Just because you do not “respect” someone, does not mean you ACT disrespectful to them.
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DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Raider O,
Again, whoever he brought in to watch Russell, as you put it, didn’t do their job. Russell was out getting high on codeine syrup when this person, whoever he is, was supposed to be watching him.
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Right ha ha ha ha! Cause you have never out smarted you babysitter? I used to think you had a clue MR.
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DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Dirty Raccoon, you can make excuses for Al’s laziness all you want. If I owned the Raiders, I would have done a lot more to save Russell. That’s just me.
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Is this your way of not answering the question, or are you just being lazy?
Have you “owned”, or “Ran” anything?
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DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Why not? If someone doesn’t respect you, it’s going to show one way or another. Are you so sensitive as to where you need people who don’t respect you to pretend they do, even when you know they don’t? I’d rather earn their respect. And the bottom line is, Jeff Garcia is NEVER going to earn the respect of someone from Russell’s background. Get a clue.
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Do you live a gated communitie? Tell me, what do you know about “people” with backgrounds like JR?
Still waiting.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:20 pm
SnB,
I watched Grove play with the 2nd unit, and I read a few aricles that said he would be cut if he lost his job due to his salary.
That’s a great option. We should look to add a FB, C, and WR after roster cuts.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:13 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
What does Jeff Garcia know?
Or Hollywood Eddie Anderson?
And, I don’t know how to relate to someone from Russell’s background, but I would have hired someone who did.
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Both spent MANY years with A holes just like JR.
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They’re too old.
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Did your mothe ever tell you that you have an excuse for everything?
So Al should have hired a “young” guy?
You are right, Al should have hired Donovan Mcnabb to babysit/mentor JR. That would make ALOT of sense. Or Should Al have hired Troy Smith?
How about VY?
O how bout Mike Vick?
Who is this “better” babysitter you speak of?
Still waiting.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:20 pm
SnB,
I watched Grove play with the 2nd unit, and I read a few aricles that said he would be cut if he lost his job due to his salary.
That’s a great option. We should look to add a FB, C, and WR after roster cuts
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Trade Satelle straight up for Grove.
Both would be better off. Teams, and players.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Past your bed time MR?
Cat got your toung?
Swallow a frog?
Or is it, you aint got a clue?
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I agree Raccoon. I had an instructor I didn’t respect I’m the fall semester, but I never disrespected the instructors. I’m entitled to my opinion, but I can’t go around disrespecting instructors at school.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Man I would love to see Darnell Dockett in Silver and Black. This man has what it takes!
Kinda like Darrell Russell.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I agree Raccoon. I had an instructor I didn’t respect I’m the fall semester, but I never disrespected the instructors. I’m entitled to my opinion, but I can’t go around disrespecting instructors at school.
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That is because you are a stand up kinda guy O. A REAL MAN.
It showes.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
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August 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Thank you. I have a lot of respect for you too.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
morris just sucks. id rather have v in at c if samson cant go. priest i heard u talkin sh!t about dmc on radio 2day. dude is goin to make fools out of all of u this year just watch. keep defendin dhb but he hasnt shown anything like dmc. chaz injury bothers me but it is what it is. he may be ready for the opener or by week 4. givin up on him is stupid cuz he doesnt cost u much and there is not a top tier wr available to replace him. lets just be patient. i swear if there wasnt somethin to complain about in here this blog would have 10 posters.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
You can help someone who doesn’t want help!
JR wanted to get high, and now he has to pay the price.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
The kitchen got hot, and MR checked out.
WOW,
SURPRISING!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
You Can’t* help ….
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
I like this defense a lot, and I think it can help carry our team to have a good season. We are not going to do a lot (POs, or win the AFC west) due to our OL, and lack of exp at the WR position. IMHO
I love the trade for Wimbley.
4 Sacks in 2 Qs!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I like what I see from Mitchell, Matt S, Houston, Scott, Branch, McClain, and Walter McFadden. We have a great mix of Vets and young guys.
Top 10 Defense!
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Vets like Nnamdi, Seymour, and Henderson (PBers) can be great mentors to the young guys, and help them develop.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Have a great night Gents.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Did your mothe ever tell you that you have an excuse for everything?
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You guys are the ones making all of the excuses for Al. There’s plenty more he could have done for Russell, but for some reason, he didn’t. And they were simple things. But you guys have a million excuses as to why he just couldn’t do it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Armond
Man I’m just keeping it real, DMC needs to step the hell up…….period
We need him if we’re really going to try to win this division. He’s had 2 years this is his 3rd and we cannot afford a repeat performance from him. This is DHB’s 2nd season and he’s plaing a much more difficult position to master. He was healthy most of last year in which I constantly blasted him for his route running. He responded with the best offseason of anyone. You have to give the kid credit for that. Now comes the payoff.
But DMC is hurt AGAIN and with an injury that could plague him all year long. It’s frustrating he started last season injured, we need him to make a significant contribution this year in order to take the next step. If that’s blasting him then it is what it is. He needs to get it done
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I agree Raccoon. I had an instructor I didn’t respect I’m the fall semester, but I never disrespected the instructors.
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How could you not disrespect someone when you didn’t respect them? What you’re saying is that you pretended to respect them, and either they were too stupid to notice, or they noticed and dealt with you one way or another.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Raider O Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
You can help someone who doesn’t want help!
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Yes you can.
Look at all of the people throughout history who refused help while someone insisted on helping them anyway, and they later thanked that person for not giving up on them? Al could have been that person, but he failed to do it. But go ahead and keep offering excuses as to why he didn’t. He could have used a high percentage passing offense, could have kept Kiffin, which would have been the best thing. could have hired a team of people to make sure Russell never so much as drank a beer away from team headquarters. Al just didn’t care enough.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
The kitchen got hot, and MR checked out.
WOW,
SURPRISING!!!
……………………..
Just grabbed something to eat, and a soda. Watched the news for a minute. It’s too hard to look at a computer all day. I try to respond to every single comment directed at me. At least the ones that are coherent and make sense. You had a mess up there that I just couldn’t sort out, and I didn’t respond to it. But if your comment is legible, and it isn’t insult ridden, I’m going to respond to it.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Raider O,got to crash,you take care! You as well,451,B Raiders!!!!!!!!! out!
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Did your mothe ever tell you that you have an excuse for everything?
…………….
You guys are the ones making all of the excuses for Al. There’s plenty more he could have done for Russell, but for some reason, he didn’t. And they were simple things. But you guys have a million excuses as to why he just couldn’t do it.
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oK, i GUESS THAT ANSWERS IT ALL.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
The kitchen got hot, and MR checked out.
WOW,
SURPRISING!!!
……………………..
Just grabbed something to eat, and a soda. Watched the news for a minute. It’s too hard to look at a computer all day. I try to respond to every single comment directed at me. At least the ones that are coherent and make sense. You had a mess up there that I just couldn’t sort out, and I didn’t respond to it. But if your comment is legible, and it isn’t insult ridden, I’m going to respond to it.
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EXCUSE # 1,999
Still waiting. Dude, I know you can read.
MR, it is painfully obvious you do not know much about the things you are writing about on this blog post.
My 14 year old used to sometimes try and BS his way through a conversation about things he knew nothing about. So I tought him all I could about thoes subjects/situations, now he speaks about them with much confidence/assurance. BUT that was when he was 10 years old.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Still waiting.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Waiting for what?
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Al could have done a lot more to help Russell, and he didn’t. Let me know if you want me to repeat my examples.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
oK, i GUESS THAT ANSWERS IT ALL.
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I don’t have an answer to all of your questions. I never said I knew everything. All I said is that Al Davis could have done more to help Russell, and he could have. I gave several examples as to how he could have done this. Some of your questions were simply confusing and seemed off topic to me. I think your volley of questions is somehow designed to throw me off my train of thought, and it’s not going to happen. Davis could have done more to help Russell. That’s a fact.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Davis could have done more to help Russell, Racoon.
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Racoon, Davis could have done more to help Russell.
He could have simplified the offense, used a higher percentage passing offense, and it really would have helped if Al kept Kiffin, because Kiffin ran a much more organized offense than Cable used for Russell.
Al also could have done a lot more to help Russell in his personal life. A lot more. Could have had a team of people watch Russell, to make sure he didn’t use drugs. Could have hired private investigators. He’s the owner. It’s his way or the highway. Nobody’s going to stop him from spying on Russell. You give freedom to the players that can handle. If they can’t, you blanket them. Especially when they’re as high priced of a draft pick as Russell was. Davis could have done a lot more, but he failed to.
August 24th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Post #474 is a gag post right? I mean the guy who posted that isn’t serious is he?
August 24th, 2010 at 12:24 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Al also could have done a lot more to help Russell in his personal life. A lot more. Could have had a team of people watch Russell, to make sure he didn’t use drugs. Could have hired private investigators…
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It’s official. He’s gone completely off the deep end. Stick a fork in him. He’s done.
August 24th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Davis couldn’t have used a simpler offense for Russell?
He couldn’t have tried harder to keep Russell way from drugs?
August 24th, 2010 at 2:08 am
Pito
August 24th, 2010 at 4:39 am
Give it up RMR, you’ve lost this one easily, just digging a deeper grave.
August 24th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Hey Nation:
Let’s all agree that the Raiders finally did what they could do – and needed to do – to help JaDrankus: they helped his sorry ass out the door! Now, we are finally putting some solidifying marks on the organization, there is hope, there is optimism (hell, there’s a defense that can stop the run, mostly, and put pressure on the quarterback, regularly). I like where we’re going — put the trash in the rearview, and fire up the Harley! I think it’s going to be a great ride!
August 24th, 2010 at 5:44 am
Oregon State Lineman Tased, Arrested While Naked and Trespassing
8/23/2010 11:30 PM ET By Matt Snyder
College Sports Editor
Tyler Patrick Thomas has been dismissed from the Oregon State football team following a bizarre arrest.
According to the Corvallis Gazette-Times, a 32-year-old woman called the local police in Corvallis at 4:51 a.m. Sunday and reported that a naked man was in the upstairs office of her home. And this is actually where things got interesting.
When police arrived, Thomas — who had reportedly been drinking — got into a football three-point stance facing the police. This is when a player gets down with two feet and one hand on the ground, facing an opponent, as a way to launch into the opposition. And Thomas reportedly did just that, toward the police. At this point, they were forced to tase him and take him under arrest.
The 19-year-old now-former Oregon State offensive lineman has been charged with first-degree criminal trespass, second-degree criminal mischief and resisting arrest. This was Thomas’ second alcohol-related offense, as he had been cited for possession as a minor last spring.
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More Oregon State: Ranked 19th by FanHouse | Big Game Sept. 4
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The Oregonian reports that Thomas’ brother, Connor Thomas, is committed to play for Mike Riley’s OSU Beavers next fall. Coach Riley told the paper that this incident does nothing to change that fact.
“I told Tyler, this has nothing to do with your brother,” said Riley.
August 24th, 2010 at 5:56 am
No worries for young Mr. Thomas – the Bengals will pick him up!
August 24th, 2010 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Wow….How long did MR argue his point(less) last night? Geez…give it up!
August 24th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Hwnrdr:
Good Morning! MR and Ricky finally went out to dinner together, so they could talk all night about Sizzurp, their boy “the victim” and what life would be like if they could help Michael Crabtree design his clothes!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Knowing our luck, Javon will hook up with Favre and have an All-Pro year. Walker and Randy Moss will face each other in the Super Bowl, which means ONE of them will win a title (I’d pull for Minnesota, just to spite Derrick Burgess!) Anyway, I hope the Vikings enjoy life with a diva quarterback and a receiver whose best work the past few years has been running wind sprints!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Haha…finally! MR was at it from early afternoon yesterday! Geez
August 24th, 2010 at 6:05 am
It’s really too bad that we have to waste so much energy on yesterday’s garbage!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Is that Oregon kid any relation to Bill Roid-anowski?!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:10 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNRDR,TBONE.4GET ABOUT RUSSELL,HE IS GONE.SO IS KIFFIN.SHOULD B A FUN GAME 2 WATCH SATURDAY NIGHT,4 A PRE-SEASON GAME I MEAN..
August 24th, 2010 at 6:20 am
I know, and I thought I had made that point last night that Russell and Kiff were gone…lets move on! Oh well…
August 24th, 2010 at 6:38 am
The Kiff and Drank people will still be lurking out there, unfortunately. Don’t expect to see much past the middle of the first quarter this Saturday. These two teams play again in a few weeks, so no one (I don’t expect) will be showing very many new wrinkles. I just hope we can produce a few turnovers, some quarterback sacks and some good, tough run defense. I also hope that DHB gets a couple of catches and that D-Mac gets a couple of chances to run in open space. I think we’re going to have to start thinking about life “beyond Chaz” … and enough with the false start penalties!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:49 am
SOMETHING ABOUT THE L.T. POSITION AND FALS STARTS.BARRY SIMS WAS THE UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION AT MOVING B4 THE SNAP.MUST B IN THE GATORAID OR SOMETHING….
August 24th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Notes: Center Samson Satele underwent X-rays on the ankle he injured against the Chicago Bears on Saturday, Cable said. The results won’t be known until today. Satele missed the rest of the game, and he was replaced by Chris Morris. … The Raiders resume practice in Napa today, with one session. They will practice there through Thursday before breaking camp. They will shift operations to their year-round facility in Alameda on Friday and kick off practicing there Monday. … The Raider Nation Celebration is Friday at Frank Ogawa Plaza in Oakland from 4-6 p.m. There is no charge for admittance
August 24th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Good morning all.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:18 am
WTF Chaz…..did you break a mirror or kill a black cat?
August 24th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Back to Football: The Raider Nation Celebration is set for Friday, August 27 from 4– 6:00 p.m. at Frank Ogawa Plaza in downtown Oakland. Frank Ogawa Plaza is located at 14th and Broadway and is near City Hall.
This family-friendly event will feature current Raiders players and coaches, Raider Legends and the Raiderettes as well as chances to win exciting prizes.
This FREE event features select autograph and photo opportunities with the Raiderettes and Raider Legends, the Super Bowl Trophies on display and live interviews with Legends and current players.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Anybody catch Vince Young and the Titans last night on TV?
By the time I got there, they were on the bench.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:27 am
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August 24th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Does anyone on this site go to the Celebration day? Any good? Seen it advertised for a few years now.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:36 am
neilb Says:
August 24th, 2010 at 7:18 am
WTF Chaz…..did you break a mirror or kill a black cat?
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I heard he broke his rabbit’s foot….
August 24th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Sharp and funny Lakota!
August 24th, 2010 at 7:50 am
It’s time for some dinner so…..
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
August 24th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Trade DMAC for a rabbit’s foot!
August 24th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Good Morning Nation.
LMAO Dakota @ 500.
August 24th, 2010 at 8:13 am
New post ladies…
August 25th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Is there a glitch in this thing or was someone posting as me all today? (but they were the same comments I made in previous post?)
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