Schilens may need knee surgery
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Turns out the reason Chaz Schilens has been missing practice lately isn’t because of his surgically-repaired foot.
Coach Tom Cable told reporters on a conference call Monday Schilens may need an arthroscopic procedure on his knee.
“I’m very concerned. It’s been a tough road for him,” Cable said. “We get through the foot thing now and something else has kind of reared up on us. We’ll take care of it and get him back as soon as we can.”
Cable said he would know more in the afternoon, which means the media won’t be briefed until after Tuesday’s 3:30 p.m. practice.
The knee problem, Cable said, was related to his foot issues.
“It sounds like something that was overcompensation for the foot to be honest with you.”
More won’t be known regarding Samson Satele’s ankle problem until Tuesday.
More to come . . .
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August 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
hola!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
2nd?
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
4eva!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Rockstar!
saw that about my boy Grads….
hope U joking 8(
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
cinco
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Time to move on ~ said it would have been a bonus if he was ready anyway.
Murphy will start in Schilens “spot”
DHB better man up and be a serviceable receiver.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Hey 4eva…whats up, bro? Here iswhat I found on Grads…
Beat writer Vittorio Tafur suggests that Bruce Gradkowski is on the roster bubble.
Gradkowski’s lingering groin injury has allowed Kyle Boller to push for the No. 2 job and Colt Brennan is at least youthful as a No. 3. Tafur points out that the Raiders could save $1.4 million by cutting Gradkowski. All three of these backups are fringe NFL quarterbacks at best.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
no Chaz? no big deal
Heyward-Bey & Murphy will start (again)
Higgins, Watkins & Ford are locks.
Figurs or NMiller will make the squad if Chaz starts on the PUP list
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
S&B: the DT filling in for Richard Seymour (A gap) on that Forte TD was the undrafted Harvard kid – Desmond Bryant
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Agreed SnB …
I said 8 games max this year from Chaz, but damn man, this is just ridiculous!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Rockstar…where did you see that? Just wondering…because I love Grads for his work ethic, but that also gives my boy Colt a shot to make the team now…but still…I will take experience any day…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
whose waiting for a rmr apology?
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
On a side note, did you guys notice how many double teams Houston faced this week?
Our Dline is going to be ridiculous!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
6 or 7 WR’s will be keep now….possibly until Chaz can come back?
Murphy
DHB
JLH
Miller
Ford
Figurs
Watkins
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
# itzSteve Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
We may need to IR Chaz…
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they could also put him the PUP list. I cant remember how long he would have be on there…4 or 6 weeks I think? At least it would open up another roster spot for a healthy body.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Wassup 4eva!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Shilens may need a trip to the retired list.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
# fat kidd Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
whose waiting for a rmr apology?
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The more accurate question would be “who isn’t?”
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Hey Hwnrdr!
Thanks 4 da info….
Still rough out there,work sometimes but the garden saves me still
I must disagree with that gay-boys view on Grads tho!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I know but that’s the only thing I found…Rockstar? But good to see you in here 4eva…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Al needs to swoop in for Vincent Jackson right now! I could easily forget about Chaz if that move is made…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
I’m giving up hope with Schillenz. This was the same story last year. We hope he can recover in time for the season opener. He wont. He is going to take forever to recover and will be seeing limited playing time come week 11. By then,the team will either be established or suck to a point where nobody cares about his return
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Rockstar,
I am not parcelling out blame here….NFL Writer Pat Kirwin seemed to suggest that if Seymour was in there that the 89 yard run would have been blown up.
D-Line is looking good this year…but those lapses have to stop.
As much credit we are giving the defense and the team..we have to also be balanced and look at the weaknesses.
Run defense still needs some work
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Hwnrdr & 4eva: I was just joking guys
sorry
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
As much credit we are giving the defense and the team..we have to also be balanced and look at the weaknesses.
Run defense still needs some work
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Agreed
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
8;
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Arman Shields syndrome…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
8}
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
exactly BSJ…couldnt remember his name.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
oh well i 4got how
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Arman Shields STILL hasn’t recovered from that injury he suffered in 2003 or whenever it was!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Agreed SnB …
I said 8 games max this year from Chaz, but damn man, this is just ridiculous!
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JWiggle,
We are finding out how a 6′4 225lbs receiver with good hands and 4.4 speed lasted until the 7th round.
Sometimes things aren’t meant to be. That’s life. I hope Schilens can get it together but the Raiders have to start making personnel decisions with the assumption that this guy is not going to be around.
Foot problems, knee problems, shoulder problems and on and on and on.
Like I said, sometimes its just not meant to be and there is another plan in store for him.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Whoever said that Al should make the trade for Jackson…I agree, but at what price??? If Chaz cannot be healthy for a whole season, they have to do something!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Arman Shields is only 25 years old and ran a 4.37 forty (2nd fastest at the combine)
the Raiders are looking to add a WR.
LOOK OUT!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
yummmmmm Kielbasa on a stick
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
And Rockstar…no worries bro! I was like NO!!! and excited at the same time, but…if he can’t go?????
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Schilens hurt ????? there’s a shocker. Louis Murphy is going to be the guy . Schilens should be an after thought.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I was like NO!!! and excited at the same time, but…if he can’t go?????
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Hwnrdr: Glasskowski trade comment was intended for JFB (Vegas) – just bad timing on my part, he wasn’t around
trade would make sense though. Steelers need a QB. We’d get our pick back from the Campbell trade. Boller deserves the #2 job. best game Bruce ever had was against the Steelers last year and it’s not far from home for him
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Beat writer Vittorio Tafur suggests that Bruce Gradkowski is on the roster bubble.
Gradkowski’s lingering groin injury has allowed Kyle Boller to push for the No. 2 job and Colt Brennan is at least youthful as a No. 3. Tafur points out that the Raiders could save $1.4 million by cutting Gradkowski. All three of these backups are fringe NFL quarterbacks at best.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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Makes no sense.
Raids will carry 3 QBs. They’re going to save peanuts if they dump Grad’s 1.4 million salary bcz they’ll still have to pay his replacement.
Vitto is talking out of his butt.
Besides, Gradkowski is a better backup than Boller anyways.
Only way this is true is if Grad’s groin injury is actually something more severe like a sports hernia and Raids feel he’s going to be as reliable as Schillens.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Whoever said that Al should make the trade for Jackson…I agree, but at what price??? If Chaz cannot be healthy for a whole season, they have to do something!!!
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The rumor is SD was only asking for a 2nd RD pick from Seattle when they were talking with Jackson’s agent. The problem was that Jackson wants a big deal. We all know Al has no problem spending money when he wants to…come on AL, make it happen!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Another Raider hurt. Big surprise, from the most poorly conditioned team in the league.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Raiders should look to Trade Thomas Howard to the Giants for Mario Manningham!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Raiders have plenty of depth at LB to try and make a deal for a WR.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RM99: Bruce shredded both knees last year
torn pec and groin strain this offseason.
who knows if he’ll come back and be the same guy we saw against the Steelers last year?
We’re not comparing him to JaMarcus Russell this year, so he may go back to looking ordinary, or average (3rd string journeyman)
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Raiders have plenty of depth at LB
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LOL.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
It’s time to move on and find somebody who can run a route without ending up on the IR list. Sorry Chaz but your as durable as wet toilet paper.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I would trade ANY LB we have not named Romac or Wimbley for a WR…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Plax!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
We should have got T.O. when we had the chance!!!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
I don’t think I am signing Vincent Jackson or anybody at this point. Go to battle with the army you got…….
Murphy will be fine….between DHB and JLH, they can man the flanker spot.
Zach Miller will be the man as expected. THe Raiders are running screen pays effectively so that will help as well.
What will really be the biggest help is if DHB can play a little more like his draft status……
1 Austin Collie IND WR 60 676 11.3
1 Percy Harvin MIN WR 60 790 13.2
3 Jeremy Maclin PHI WR 56 773 13.8
4 Michael Crabtree SF WR 48 625 13.0
4 Mike Thomas JAC WR 48 453 9.4
6 Hakeem Nicks NYG WR 47 790 16.8
7 Johnny Knox CHI WR 45 527 11.7
8 Kenny Britt TEN WR 42 701 16.7
9 LeSean McCoy PHI RB 40 308 7.7
10 Mike Wallace PIT WR 39 756 19.4
11 Julian Edelman NE WR 37 359 9.7
12 Brandon Gibson STL WR 34 348 10.2
12 Mohamed Massaquoi CLE WR 34 624 18.4
12 Louis Murphy OAK WR 34 521 15.3
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Yes we do!!! T.Howard? Groves? Who knows…can’t wait til Saturday guys….wanna see them live and hoping for a progression and not the other way around!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Sorry Chaz but your as durable as wet toilet paper.
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Lynn: Chaz = Charmin
ultra soft
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
cincy signed t.owens making chad ochco cinco expendable. make it happen al.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
itzSteve Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Whoever said that Al should make the trade for Jackson…I agree, but at what price??? If Chaz cannot be healthy for a whole season, they have to do something!!!
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The rumor is SD was only asking for a 2nd RD pick from Seattle when they were talking with Jackson’s agent. The problem was that Jackson wants a big deal. We all know Al has no problem spending money when he wants to…come on AL, make it happen!!!
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Sticking point to the deal was not hte second round pick. His tender was dor a 1st and third. the desal breaker for the sea was he wanted 30 mil guar…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Beat writer Vittorio Tafur suggests that Bruce Gradkowski is on the roster bubble.
Gradkowski’s lingering groin injury has allowed Kyle Boller to push for the No. 2 job and Colt Brennan is at least youthful as a No. 3. Tafur points out that the Raiders could save $1.4 million by cutting Gradkowski. All three of these backups are fringe NFL quarterbacks at best.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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Makes no sense.
Raids will carry 3 QBs. They’re going to save peanuts if they dump Grad’s 1.4 million salary bcz they’ll still have to pay his replacement.
Vitto is talking out of his butt.
Besides, Gradkowski is a better backup than Boller anyways.
Only way this is true is if Grad’s groin injury is actually something more severe like a sports hernia and Raids feel he’s going to be as reliable as Schillens.
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Gotta keep Grads on the roster and send Brennan to the practice squad if possible. Frye is done and Boller is in!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Hey Bo…rumor is that Plax is getting out and wants to play again!!! But…if Al didn’t push for T.O., doubtful he would push for Plax…but I have seen stranger things!!! As we all have.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
We’re not comparing him to JaMarcus Russell this year, so he may go back to looking ordinary, or average (3rd string journeyman)
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and neither is Hue Jackson
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
send Brennan to the practice squad if possible.
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DK007: I think it is possible
this is his last year of eligibility, same with Greyson Gunheim
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
D-FOLKS Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
We should have got T.O. when we had the chance!!!!!
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TO I thought would have been a good pickup. But the NATION is staying away from character issues guys…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Javon Walker anyone???? LOL
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Another Raider hurt. Big surprise, from the most poorly conditioned team in the league.
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Wrong again. Buffalo is CLEARLY the most poorly conditioned team in football, hence them leading the NFL in players on IR 3 or 4 years in a row.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
San Diego is not entertaining trade offers from anyone other than Seattle. Per Peter King on todays MMQB…
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
So Schilens now needs knee surgery. C’mon Cable, how do you screw up your knee while watching practice? As great a prospect this guy might have been, he just can’t stay healthy. He’s too damn fragile. In any event, he’s history. Just put his ass on IR and let’s move on. You can work him out again next year. Maybe he will have healed by then – probably not. Let’s NOT hold a 53 slot for him hoping for participation this year.
We should have taken TO when we had the shot.
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
itzSteve Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Whoever said that Al should make the trade for Jackson…I agree, but at what price??? If Chaz cannot be healthy for a whole season, they have to do something!!!
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The rumor is SD was only asking for a 2nd RD pick from Seattle when they were talking with Jackson’s agent. The problem was that Jackson wants a big deal. We all know Al has no problem spending money when he wants to…come on AL, make it happen!!!
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Sticking point to the deal was not hte second round pick. His tender was dor a 1st and third. the desal breaker for the sea was he wanted 30 mil guar…
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The 1st/3rd tender is not an issue…he signs the tender with SD, then a sign and trade to who ever wants him. 30 million guaranteed is nothing to Al(see JR, Javon, Wilson, etc.)…make it happen!!!
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Waufle will weigh in on Plax. We could use his size.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
# bcz24 Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Another Raider hurt. Big surprise, from the most poorly conditioned team in the league.
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Wrong again. Buffalo is CLEARLY the most poorly conditioned team in football, hence them leading the NFL in players on IR 3 or 4 years in a row.
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Do not feed the trolls, they get angry and e-rage eventually. It gets quite ugly(see last thread).
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
SnB,
The Bears rushed for 85 yards on 24 carries if you take out the one Forte run. That’s 3.5 yards per carry.
I’m not excusing the 89 yarder, just saying that when you mention that the Bears averaged 7 yards per carry against us it’s not really representative of what really went on out there. Run defense so far is way ahead of last year, mainly because the front 7 is vastly improved and we have linebackers that can play the run for a change. Sure, McClain made a mistake there but he’s a (smart) rookie and will learn from it. Des Bryant is no Richard Seymour, either. He is promising, but needs to develop further before he can be deemed reliable in there.
I’m much more concerned with the offensive line and our struggles completing downfield passes, to be honest. Our receivers need to start catching some balls. There have been more than a few these past two weeks that should have been caught, contested or not.
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Vincent Jackson anyone?
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
orlandoraiders Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Vincent Jackson anyone?
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We’d have too much for him, not worth it!
August 23rd, 2010 at 3:52 pm
I sure hope this is a sign of a great season! It would be fun again for sure!
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
A lot of people keep saying that Schilens is going to be great once he gets healthy. But sadly Im beginning to suspect that he never will.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
F-in christ get rid of him.
August 23rd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Plaxico would be a HUGE pickup for us. No down side, nothing to give up.
Guy shot himself in the foot, literally. Wasn’t a rapist or woman beater, nor a dog killer or drug addict.
So he carried a loaded firearm into a nightclub and managed to discharge it into hisself. Dumb but not unforgivable.
I would be on board with that for sure.
Get Plax Al!!!
August 24th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Screw Schilens. I’m so sick of hearing about his “injuries” and how he can’t do this, can’t do that all the damn time.
I’m convinced he will NEVER be healthy so to hell with him.
August 24th, 2010 at 11:40 am
“The more accurate question would be “who isn’t?”
I’m not. I couldn’t care less what that guy thinks or says. He is borderline psychotic, if not full blown. He spends all his spare time spewing anti Al Davis rhetoric on a forum of a team he hates and then has the nerve to say “we” when referring to the team he despises. Nobody who says the stuff he does about the Raiders could possibly be a “fan”, and all he spews is hate and vitriol. Who needs that. Just ignore him.
August 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
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