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Heat arrives just in time

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from the Raiders’ practice session, as relayed by beat writer Steve Corkran and through group interviews:

– Projected starter Chaz Schilens is almost certainly out of the season opener and the status of center Samson Satele is up in the air, but all was right with the world as the temperature broke three digits Tuesday in Napa.

“It was great. It was exactly 103. It was perfect. But we needed it,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “I talked about before, we had a chance to go to Dallas, it was like 104 when we got off the plane. We played in Chicago last week. We were hoping to have a lot of humidity, and we just didn’t get it.

“It was actually a pretty cool night. What I’m getting at is the fact that we’ve got to go and open at Tennessee, so we’re going to need to be in this kind of environment a little bit. And it was good for it. I really am excited how we handled it today as a football team.”

– Cable ruled Satele out of the 49ers game, but wasn’t willing to anoint Chris Morris as the starter Saturday night. It’s an interesting decision for Cable, given that third-round pick Jared Veldheer was the backup left tackle yet has also been touted as a possible center.

– Not long ago, Cable talked of the move of Alex Daniels from defensive line to fullback as something that was out of the experiment stage. He was wearing No. 71 Tuesday, instead of No. 39.

“I just didn’t feel like we made the improvement as quickly as I’d hoped,” Cable said. “He was brought in here, started out on defense to be a pass rusher, and obviously, it’s good to get a set of legs back over there. It just didn’t feel like to me it was working.”

That doesn’t meant we’ve seen the last of Daniels. Someone who can play both defensive line and fullback can be of great use on the practice squad.

– Darrius Heyward-Bey and Darren McFadden, apparently fresh and loose after missing practice sessions, were back on the field in the heat and ostensibly will get some work against the 49ers Saturday.

Not that either shed much light on why they were out. McFadden originally was “tight” and not injured, according to Cable, but missed more than a week. Heyward-Bey was “fatigued.”

Heyward-Bey had a good practice, and deflected as best he could inquiries bout his status.

“Just fatigue, same thing coach Cable said,” Heyward-Bey said. “Whatever he said.”

McFadden remained vague about his ability to “get loose,” said he could have played against the Bears but didn’t yet have his “burst.”

Cable, when asked about McFadden’s workload, essentially covered all the bases.

“Our plan right now is to go through the week like normal, that he’s back and ready to go,” Cable said. “We’ll be smart in terms of his workload, is probably the only issue here. Once we get there Saturday we go play.”

– Defensive end Jay Richardson said he underwent surgery for a meniscus tear and hoped to be ready for the opener.

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  1. KoolKell Says:

    Hey Jerry/Moderator.

    If I’d posted the following, I’d be banned, no?
    ——————————————-
    Priesttj Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
    KK

    The billboard demanded a GM, where’s the GM?

    The status is guo you retard Big Al loked at that billbard farted and kept doing what he was doing.

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  3. TheyCallMeAssassin Says:

    One thing I like about Campbell is that he doesn’t get himself pushed into the QB like Carlisle does.

    Watch the game from the other night. The o-line collapses around Gallery on almost every offensive pass play. Henderson drops back to pick up the blind side rush, and Satele/Morris, Carlisle, and Walker get knocked back by the defensive line so that the pocket closes on the QB like scissors. Luckily Jason Campbell can run, but it’s only a matter of time before he gets killed behind guys who can’t keep the defense at bay for more than a couple seconds.

    Then again, Campbell may not fare as well against first teamers. But it’s the preseason, so this is the Raiders’ chance to find out.

    I hope they let Veldheer get some time in at center and keep Henderson at LT for the first half. I would really like to see more of him. He held his own against Peppers for the most part, but there were still plays where he ended up with his back against Jason Campbell.

  4. priesttj Says:

    This is the best news since training camp started, I just don’t think people (fans) appreciate just how important these two are to this teams overall success.

    They bring elite speed out of the back field and speed on the outside. It forces team to overload and double where they don’t want to. DHB lifts the defense while DMC forces the defense cover short zones and it’s impossible to stop the rest of the offense it means ZMiller is single covered and so is the X.

    If you go back and watch the Bears game you’ll see what speed does to defenses we had guy’s running wide open. Screens going for 30 yards lol.

    It has a tremendous affect on the defense and how they can attack us.

  5. Oak-Tone Says:

    Man I got a 9 and 12 team parlay. Gotta make some dough. And a single on the Raiders to at least cover my parlays. Go Raiders!!

  6. 408RAIDER Says:

    damn snitching isn’t very Kool Kell….

  7. Florida Pete Says:

    hmmm…

    i’m thinking this is a better team without DHB and McTiptoe…

  8. priesttj Says:

    KK

    You want me banned? for saying exactly what? do you realize how many names you’ve called posters in here?

    You’re worse than a little kid running to his parents for help feeling you’ve been wronged. I’ve been banned too man, you just find something better to do with your time. No big deal!!!

  9. priesttj Says:

    Fl Pete

    I beg to differ, DMC may be injury prone but he is a talent and DHB is just developing as a WR.

  10. 831GoldenState Says:

    Or Al looked at it and said enough is enough and decided to do it right this time!!!

  11. 831GoldenState Says:

    But Al looking at it and farting is alot funnier!!!!!!
    ROLMAO!!!!!
    WE WILL WIN
    PRINT THAT!!!!!

  12. hendu Says:

    post6, 408RAIDER,couldnt agree with you more,once a snitch,you know the rest.First game,10am,@ Tenn I will shoot out an email to ya, Time for a Bloody Mary,a Spicy one,at that! Raiders!!!!!

  13. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, I’ll call the PO-lice in a NY minute.

  14. EMRaiders Says:

    I really hope they put Veldheer at center this week. Heck, might as well throw in Campbell at ROG and see what kind of line we got with those two. Do it for a couple series, if it doesn’t work, then pull them and put in the usual suspects Morris and Carlisle. But at least get a glimpse at those two with the first team.

    DHB better catch more than one pass. And he better show some of that improvement he’s supposedly made. DMac, well, you better do something…

    I’m interested in seeing Grad and if he still has some of that “magic” from last season. It should be an interesting game to watch.

  15. KoolKell Says:

    Assassin

    What I noticed was J Campbell’s ability to step up into the pocket, vs the Bears.

    The Tackles ran their guys out wide, including Veldheer, and there was room in the middle for Campbell to step up, which he smartly did.

  16. lefty12 Says:

    TCMA-I too watched the game a couple of times and totally disagree with you about Cooper Carlisle.Almost every time he rode his man out and around ,pushing him behind the QB,thus allowing the QB to step up and have an opening in front of him.I agree B.Campbell usually just stood his man up ,but a couple of times the QB had no where to go because BC didn’t push his man to the outside.Campbell will be a beast once he learns the nuances of the position,on that I will agree,but CC didn’t play a bad game.

  17. raidertay Says:

    Bush should be the featured RB. He looks ready 2 go and out 2 prove himself in a contract year. Mcfaddeen comes in for passes out the backfield and change of pace. But Bush should get the most carries

  18. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    This is pretty good news.

  19. JB Says:

    Just watching the Rams vs. Browns game. Both teams look pathetic. Bradford, the #1 QB draftee, looks very raw. He’s reading defenses worse than JaLoser did assuming that’s even possible. All he does is throw 3-5 yard checkdowns. The Browns QB isn’t doing much better. The Brown Rob Ryan defense is well, a Rob Ryan 3-4 defense. Compared to these two teams, we look like SB caliber.

    BTW, Howie Long’s kid isn’t doing anything noteworthy. He didn’t do anything last year. I’m glad we didn’t take him. He may have a motor but he doesn’t have the necessary bulk to be a force.

  20. lefty12 Says:

    Is anyone else ‘geeked’ to see McFadden catch one of those screens with the efficiency we seem to be establishing running them.Does everyone realize the effect it will have on opposing D’s?

  21. KoolKell Says:

    Russell couldn’t throw a decent screen pass to save his bottle.

    Campbell seems pretty good at it, and the backs are good at it.

    Should help keep those linebackers from keying on Miller too much.

  22. JB Says:

    I don’t think opposing D’s are worried about DMac. It’s not like he got a great track record of successes. He’s got great potential, that’s it. He’s far from a proven player. He needs to show us what he’s got this year. His results can speak for him. Right now, Bennett should be the #2 RB based on results. DMac, at best, should be a 2nd RB in the backfield with Bush or Bennett and either be a decoy, hit with a screen pass around the edge or Shift out to he slot for a crossing pattern. Don’t get me wrong, I hope DMac is super-successful. I just can’t give him a free pass just because. He has to earn it. I guess we’ll just have to see this weekend. I hope they give him more than just a couple of plays. Time to go to work DMac.

  23. KoolKell Says:

    I hope to see McFadden get plenty of work Saturday. But, it probably won’t happen.

    He and everybody else sits in the last game, and we go into the opener without knowing.

  24. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Pito

  25. lefty12 Says:

    JB,if McFadden busts a couple of those screens,I guarantee opposing Ds will worry about the play.Every time McFadden rolls to a side he will have to be accounted for,which in turn will open something else.McFadden can make a difference,IF,and its a big IF, he can stay healthy.

  26. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Usually the starters play into the second half when its the 3rd preseason game so so should see more dhb McFadden and Campbell

  27. lefty12 Says:

    KK,we meaning the fans,not the coaching staff.I’m sure they have a pretty good idea IF the guy can stay on the field.

  28. KoolKell Says:

    We, meaning the fans. But what does anybody know until watching the game?

  29. lefty12 Says:

    Nothing,but at least the coaches should have an educated guess.

  30. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12

    I want to see what he can do with it as well. I just want this kid to get a good feeling about what he needs to do before the season starts. I don’t need to see him carry it 20 times just 5-8 times and hit it. Catch a few and attack the perimeter agressively. Then go sit down and we’ll see you 9/12/10.

    Th same with DHB 3-4 catches then have seat until the opener.

  31. KoolKell Says:

    Can he read blocks?
    Superior field vision?
    Is he a fumbler?
    Easily knocked out?
    etc, etc.

    I need to see that in games.

  32. Thec07 Says:

    Look forward to seeing JFORD getting more run that his quad is healed…

  33. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,I want to see him go into the season totally healthy so we all can see what he is and can do.I’m getting tired of him spending so much time with the trainers instead of being on the damn field.Everything we read says how good he can be.I don’t care if we see it this week but as the saying goes,its time to either sh!t or get off the pot.

  34. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 I culdn’t agree more, I’ve been waiting to see him let it rip for an entire season and hopefully the wait is over.

  35. lefty12 Says:

    The funny part is so many on here want Chaz gone because he can’t stay healthy,yet give DM a pass saying he needs to be ‘used’ correctly.How often has he been healthy enough for any amount of time to be ‘used’ correctly?And,KK,I agree,but so far he has shown he-can’t #1,doesn’t have #2,is #3,and is #4.

  36. KoolKell Says:

    2 of the offenses biggest weapons, presumably, Chaz & McFadden are question marks going into the season.

  37. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Good evenin Lefty, Priest, Thec, KK, JB, NATION.

  38. raidersxy Says:

    A lot of love hate for McFadden on this blog.

    My two cents about the DMAC savior.

    The guy was a beast in college out running everyone! We have yet to see any of that at all.

    Why?

    I do not think his patience for blocks to develop is there yet nor has this team blocked properly the past two years.

    I think this year could be a huge jump for him. At this point Bush deserves the bulk of carries, but DMAC will most certainly see his share atleast 10+ a game.

    I see him slowing down his vision and seeing the play develop rather than just going 100mph at the start of the play and getting hit by a LB.

    Combined rushing this year between Dmac and bush willl easily be 2000+

  39. lefty12 Says:

    Evening,Dirty.

  40. edward teach Says:

    McFadden definitely has something to prove, but I would give him the chance to do it (healthy) before writing him off as a bust.

    It’s strange, because he never had injury problems in college and it’s not like he played in the WAC or anything. I just hope it’s bad luck early in his career, because I remember seeing him as a rookie (against New England in particular) and it was pretty easy to see why he was so coveted coming out of college.

    I hope we get a healthy year out of him, because I still think he has a ton of talent and can be a fearsome weapon in this offense.

  41. JB Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    JB,if McFadden busts a couple of those screens,I guarantee opposing Ds will worry about the play.Every time McFadden rolls to a side he will have to be accounted for,which in turn will open something else.McFadden can make a difference,IF,and its a big IF, he can stay healthy.
    **********************

    There’s an old Raider saying Lefty, IF frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their ass. I hope Dmac can take a swing pass and NOT fall down. We DO know however that Bush, Bennett & Cartwright know what to do with it when they catch the ball. Let’s just hope DMac was paying attention while watching film.

  42. JB Says:

    Assuming Schlens is unavailable who are the starting wideouts? Murphy & JLH? Who’s out of the slot? Ford, NMiller, DMac?

    What’s your guess for the opener?

  43. tazZraider Says:

    Edward Teach Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
    McFadden definitely has something to prove, but I would give him the chance to do it (healthy) before writing him off as a bust.

    It’s strange, because he never had injury problems in college and it’s not like he played in the WAC or anything. I just hope it’s bad luck early in his career, because I remember seeing him as a rookie (against New England in particular) and it was pretty easy to see why he was so coveted coming out of college.

    I hope we get a healthy year out of him, because I still think he has a ton of talent and can be a fearsome weapon in this offense.
    *****************************************************
    well said teach, i couldnt agree any more people are already labeling dmac as a bust because of his injury problems but we’ve seen flashes of what he can do when he wasnt injured. that big game against kc, and the one against new england. i think durability is an issue for mcfadden but i think he can be a force if he stays healthy and a really deadly asset to this team.

  44. lefty12 Says:

    DHB-Murphy.JLH is listed as DHB’s backup.

  45. tazZraider Says:

    JB Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    Assuming Schlens is unavailable who are the starting wideouts? Murphy & JLH? Who’s out of the slot? Ford, NMiller, DMac?

    What’s your guess for the opener?
    *************************************************
    JB,
    my guess is murphy and dhb are the starters and ford or jlh in the slot. No matter how good any receivers play better than dhb hes going to be starting. I really rather have nick miller than watkins make the team because we havent seen what he can do and watkins is unproductive.

  46. JB Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    DHB-Murphy.JLH is listed as DHB’s backup.
    ***********************
    Senior moment. I had forgotten all about DHB. Of course he’ll start if healthy and not fatigued. :-)

  47. Violent Hands Says:

    Mcfadden seems to struggle on the dirt imo and hes not the only one ,i dont understand why the team dosent do even 2/3 practices on the dirt cause some players like DMC just dont seem comfortable cutting on it

  48. JB Says:

    Tazz

    I too am a NMiller fan. Small of stature but always seems to be there BIG TIME when asked to perform.

  49. JB Says:

    Gotta run. Later guys. Go Raiders!!!

  50. Random Drug Tester Says:

    you guys make me laugh….DHB, DMAC, Mitchell, Houston, etc. they all owe us the same that other 1st and 2nd round picks contribute.

    You have all seen the posts where they do not…get on this team to produce what they owe us…quit making excuses for everything they do that is less than that.

  51. Coach Elkins Says:

    It hasn’t gotten close to hot yet, and I’m not talking about the weather!

  52. tazZraider Says:

    random drug tester,

    i agree with you about dhb, and dmac, but i dont know what you’re talkin about with mitchell and houston. mitchell was injured with that hammy during camp and reg. season and we had flashes of what he can do but we didnt have a full glimpse. i definitely dont know what you’re talking about with houston though. this guy bursted in the spotlight with his 2 sacks and if anything he’s gonna be a stud

  53. Guy Says:

    Have you all seen Spillers run vs the colts? I am waiting for McFadden to have a play similar to that

  54. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Locker Room talk:

    Murph…you rock, keep it up, we’re with ya.
    JLH…want to see you back man, can ya do it?
    Schilens…where is that guy..he could be good, but I ain’t seen him.
    DMAC…wish that guy would play for us…tired of waiting.
    ZBS…come on guys, let’s just get it done. we are the key to all this, let’s make it work.

    Defense…K guys, we have to stop them every series. No points is the game plan.

    CB’s…no completions on the outside.

    Front 7…no runs up the gut and kill the Qb if he tries to pass.

  55. Random Drug Tester Says:

    I get ticked by watching these guys with “tools” and “talent” get beaten or fail because they don’t know how to play the game of football.

    Make them accountable….or get rid of them.

  56. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Tyvon Branch
    Mike Mitchell
    Michael Bush
    Louis Murphy
    Lamarr Houston
    Rolando McLain
    Travis Goethers
    Veldheer

    are they only guys that could have broken into any Locker room I have been in.

    McFadden, Schilens, DHB, Huff…do something to make me let you in.

  57. Random Drug Tester Says:

    anyone who doesn’t understand that…quit posting.

    You don’t know what you are talking about.

  58. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Hey AM crew, talk about nothing important until we get back OK?

  59. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Pitos

  60. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Let’s get real about our Raiders….

    The most glowing report about the game against the Bear’s says that M.Bush only ran 8 times for 26 yards or more simplistically for an avg of 3.4 yds per carry.

    Subtract his 15 yard carry and it turns into 7 carries for 11 yards, which is a 1.5 yds per carry avg.

    On top of that, Bennett apparently had a great night rushing the ball 15 for 64 which is 4.3 yds per carry.

    Take away the 44 yd run and it is 14 for 20 or 1.4 yds per carry and it becomes obvious that we cannot run the ball.

    See it for what it is…we are a long way from being a real team, we will win more than we have for a while, but we still are not good.

  61. Random Drug Tester Says:

    we are still rebuilding…the plus side is that we will get a “value” pick in the mid to late teens where you get guys that contribute but don’t cost a hundred million dollars.

    We need that for a change.

  62. Random Drug Tester Says:

    this just in from Al Davis radio “All Raiders…All the time”….RMR is g@y.

  63. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
    Plunketthead Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Meltdown said
    “Are you seriously comparing the Raiders to the Cowboys? The Cowboys have had far more success in the modern day league than the Raiders””

    hahahahaha
    The cowbilches have not sniffed a SB in 15 years or more.

    ………………….

    The Cowboys have fared much better than the Raiders as of recent. The Raiders aren’t even in the Cowboys’ league. The Cowboys are a competitive team, year after year. The Raiders are not, year after year

    ———————————————–
    So RMR…success is measured by being mediocre continuously? or more realistically, is it measured by taking a shot at the big prize more often than others, and winning it more often than not. You decide…Loser.

  64. Random Drug Tester Says:

    That people is the conundrum that RMR faces as a guy that has never been in the game and knows not what it is about….you want to play for the big prize more than you want to be statistically better than everyone.

    Hear that Kool-less Kell? It’s not about the won/loss record for the number of years you pick that pad your stats….it’s about how many times did you play for the BIG prize and how many times did you win it.

  65. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Al Davis knows that….Raider fans love that…haters hate that.

    But it is what it is…the Raiders play in the Super Bowl more often than most, win the Super Bowl more often than most, and are on the way back to doing it again, as the RAIDERS do.

    Live with it RMR.

  66. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    The raiders don’t a have a 1st round pick they traded that pick to the patriots

  67. Random Drug Tester Says:

    PRINT THAT!

    END OF STORY!

    THE END!

    Don’t bother responding.

  68. Random Drug Tester Says:

    except I have to say…RMR that was the g@yest tough guy meltdown and then apology that I have ever seen…just sayin

  69. tazZraider Says:

    its been a long time since i’ve been on this blog but whatever happened to richochet. is that old nutty a$$ man still giving people sh!t?

  70. Just Win Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Just Win Says:
    August 24th, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Irrelevant statement. Or if that is relevant, Why don’t we go back and talk about how badly the NY Yankees sucked before Babe Ruth

    ……………….

    I wasn’t aware we were talking about MLB. Do we play the Yankees this year?
    =================================================

    Wow. Talk about new lows. Here, I will break it down for you slowly, and succinctly. What we were talking about is ALL franchises go thru problems. Not one franchise in any sport has not gone thru problems. And no, we don’t play the NY Yankees this year.

  71. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Can’t wait for the AM crew….

    someone says: “blah blah blah”
    Jwiggle says: “I disagree for no good reason…LOL”

    RaiderRockstar says: “I have lots of nothing to say…discuss”

    Raider O says: “I do drugs”….”vote for me.”

    Raider4eva says: “I love all us Raider men”

    Nnamdi says: “Go to my Raider site…it’s so cool”

    Richochet says…who cares?

  72. Random Drug Tester Says:

    riveting!

  73. Ataxia Says:

    RRRRRRAAAAAIIIIDDDDEERRRSSSSSSSSSS!

  74. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Mierda

  75. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    If dhb is a developing wr, why the hell did we take him in the top ten?

    priest, you are nothing but a shill for al davis, the man has lost whatever mojo he had and time has past him by. yeah he still controls things but dysfunctionally and to the detriment of his team. man do you get paid to be his voice? wtf, it’s bizarre.

    al needs to give it up, we are going to have to pry the team from his cold dead fingers or what? here is the part you don’t understand, he with his demands on certain ancient plays and scholarship players hurts the team. point blank, this league is almost parity, the elite teams have schemes and coaches who make the difference. yeah, there are elite players out there and getting them to win match ups are very important, just look at what al did to Nnamdi. keeping the best player on the team and maybe in the nfl to one side of the field is just assinine, other teams knew all they had to do was throw to the otherside, if that isn’t an example of how he hurts us, i don’t know wht is.

  76. Violent Hands Says:

    Post 61
    when teams run the ball its not about breaking a big one on every play…you keep chipping away until you break one,some running plays are designed to set up other running plays

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  78. bcz24 Says:

    Did priestj actually say DHB demands double coverage? Dude I seriously want whatever that guy is smoking!

  79. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    DHB will, once and only if he proves that he can catch the dam ball!!!

  80. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    forget dhb, i don’t think he has what it takes for nfl player, he seems like a head case. wasted glory pick of an old man and people who bring him up are just patsies for al.

  81. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    you can add chaz to that too, you would think he was a first round pick with all the fodder on him. what has he done? he’s a wasted roster spot if he can’t stay healthy.

  82. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNRDR,BCZ24,IF MCFADDEN DOES NOT HAVE A GOOD-GREAT SEASON,PUT HIM IN THE SAME CAB RUSSELL TOOK OUT OF TOWN.IF DHB SHOWS IMPROOVEMENT,WITCH WOULD NOT TAKE MUCH,KEEP HIM AS LONG AS HE KEEPS IMPROOVING.

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  84. hwnrdr Says:

    That question in post 84…
    Hard to say! He is only now lerning center…who is the anchor of the OLine!!!
    Hey Dirt Lot…doing Super Tailgators?

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so what did I miss yesterday and Monday night?

    Daniels to FB experiment = flop

    Langston Walker has lower back issues

    Samson Satele ruled out against SF

    Bruce, Darren & Darrius are back.

    anything else ???

  86. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I expect to see Morris & Pears starting in place of Satele & Walker …

    Veldheer will probably take over at some point and end up playing 3 quarters

  87. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    NO HWNRDR,LONG STORY ,TELL U ABOUT IT SATURDAY,WHAT TIME U SHOWING UP ?HAVE 2 WORK SO WE MAY NOT ARIVE UNTIL ABOUT 4PM..

  88. RaiderRockstar Says:

    @jaywiggle14 Cable said he hasn’t decided between Morris and Veldheer at center about 10 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to jaywiggle14

    ***

    Jwigg is friends with Vittorio Tafur ???

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders were happy to get Wimbley, outbidding several other teams. Wimbley was a defensive end at Florida State and was learning to play outside linebacker in Cleveland’s 3-4 defense. Now he is playing outside linebacker in Oakland’s 4-3 defense, and Cable will turn him loose on third downs.

    “Our plan all along as we talked about was to use him on third down in terms of rushing the passer,” Cable said. “He showed up the other night. That’s exciting for our team. He’s exactly what we thought. He’d be a guy who could rush the passer in passing situations and play the (strong-side) linebacker on the other downs.”

    Wimbley has great speed off the edge – just ask Chicago tackle Chris Williams. Wimbley has all the pass-rushing moves, uses his hands well and is smart enough to change things up on offensive linemen to catch them off guard.

    “He works on it diligently,” Cable said. “It’s a combination of his speed, athleticism with a guy who understands what he’s doing in terms of the technique of rushing the passer.”

    -Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)

    ***

    Wimbley = 3rd down pass rush specialist?

  90. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Dirt Lot…
    We’ll be there at 1PM as soon as the gates open!!!
    Can’t wait…

  91. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GAMETIME IS 6PM OR 7PM SATURDAY ?

  92. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    RickeyDudleyHB demands the double teams I mean guy had 9 rec last year so the league is shaking. Can’t wait for Titans game so excited about the D.
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  93. J Wiggle Says:

    Tafur is terrible with his updates. Sent him a couple tweets letting him know how he wasn’t up to Jerry’s standards with the updates, lol.

    That was the one response I got.

  94. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY 2 U ROCKSTAR..

  95. hwnrdr Says:

    game time is at 6PM…

  96. Thec07 Says:

    What up NATION?

  97. Thec07 Says:

    With the turnover of new talent, our special teams should be improved…

  98. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 6:29 am
    I expect to see Morris & Pears starting in place of Satele & Walker …

    Veldheer will probably take over at some point and end up playing 3 quarters

    +++++++++++++++

    I hope V takes over out the gates. Cable said he was undecided, would love to see how the giant handles the 1’s….

  99. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    Funniest stuff is always KNBR talking about how great Niners are gonna be, heard them yesterday laughing about the Cardinals not having a real Qb. No team with Alex “Tiny Hands” Smith as the starter should be so cocky , we cut our 1 overall bust Niners still praying theirs will pan out HA HA HA.

  100. hwnrdr Says:

    I kow huh, NMF…Its not like they have a rebirth of Joe Montana or something…that is why I dislike Niner fans…they are really…insert your own word!

  101. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, I take that back…not all of them are that bad…(considering my dad is one)

  102. Plunketthead Says:

    We will destroy the gayniners Saturday.
    It will not even be close

    Express delivery!!

  103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Dow just dipped under a support level of 10K.

    Wathch out.

  104. Lakota Says:

    Hmmmmm, there seemed to be a lot of McFadden optimism in here last night.

    I still have the list you haters….

  105. Plunketthead Says:

    Its been propped up by BS for some time now.
    I have actually heard people saying its up because companies are making bucko money now that they have gone global (chasing dirt cheap labor).

    Now theres nobody making enough money to buy junk, just the neccesities?
    We will keep going down untill gov.con gets out of the way and that is not gonna happen.
    The feds are just getting stronger.

    I almost cant believe home prices have another huge cut coming.

  106. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    TZA is on fire Vegas!

  107. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Lakota Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 7:50 am
    Hmmmmm, there seemed to be a lot of McFadden optimism in here last night.

    I still have the list you haters….

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    And I still have a list of you ostriches…

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tafur is terrible with his updates.

    ***

    he’s all we got for the last 3 days while Jerry Mac is “on ice” so here it is:

    Seymour still rehabbing triceps and Walker having lower back issues

    Satele out this week with ankle injury, but could be back after that

    Watkins can’t catch up to Boller deep ball

    Lamarr Houston beats Bruce Campbell twice in row in one-on-one drills

    Cable riding Mario Henderson again. Henderson does better next play and Cable yells “Now he’s (defender) in your world! ”

    Walker leaves practice early

    Joey Thomas jumps sideline route and picks off Campbell

    Walker did come out late

    DHB showing no signs of fatigue as he beats Walter McFadden deep

    Brennan could be ticketed for practice squad

    DHB catches one over shoulder for touchdown; Higgins does same and then takes jab at DHB, saying loudly that he’s tired

    Which means Daniels’ chances of making the team just went from 10 to 1 percent

    Here is some news: Alex Daniels no longer a fullback. He is wearing 71 and back at defensive end …

    Running backs practicing running downhill — at least that’s what coach yelled

    Pears … And that’s not good. Walker probably has clause that says he can’t go if it’s 100 degrees. He is 350. He could die.

    No Chris Johnson, Seymour, Langston Walker

    No word yet on Schilens or Satele — Raiders like to build up suspense for Cable’s session with reporters after practice

    No pads today

    McFadden back, as is Heyward-Bey

  109. hwnrdr Says:

    Interesting Rockstar! Thanks for the updates!

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Updated 53

    QB – Campbell, Boller, Gradkowski (3)

    RB – Bush, DMAC, Bennett (3)

    FB – Lawton, Reece (2)

    WR – Chaz, Murphy, DHB, JLH, Ford, Watkins (6)

    TE – Miller, Myers, Stewart (3)

    OT – Henderson, Walker, Veldheer, Pears (4)

    OG – Gallery, Campbell, Carlisle, Barnes (4)

    C – Satele, Morris (2)

    DE – Houston, Shaughnessy, Richardson (3)

    DT – Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Henderson (4)

    LB- Wimbley, McClain, Scott, Groves, Brown, Goethel, Williams (7)

    CB – Nnamdi, CJ, Routt, Ware, McFadden (5)

    S – Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Brown (4)

    LS – Condo (1)

    P – Lechler (1)

    K – Janikowski (1)

  111. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, Plunk, Lakota, NMF, JFB, Thec and the rest of the AM crew!

  112. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    What have we learned about the 2010 Raids thus far from pre-season action ?

    One thing that stands out to me is the offense has a new dimension, one that wasn’t possible with JaMoron at QB.

    I’m talking about the Raid’s newfound ability to effectively run a screen.

    One thing Campbell has shown so far is that he can ’sell’ the screen, and his timing and accuracy on those plays is well executed.

    What an improvement over JaMoron attempting to throw a 10 yard pass to a back and missing by 5.

    The OL gets overpowered trying to run block straight ahead and pass protect. Running delays, screens and draws might be their forte.

    I think we can all agree that D. McFadden is not an elusive back. His strength is straight ahead speed. He can hit a gap very quickly and rip off a gain but he’s not going to make people miss or run over defenders. It will be very interesting to see what he can do with the ball in open space.

    Couple of other observations…

    Watching the Bama/Texas championship game I was impressed by Lamar Houston’s lateral pursuit against the run as a DT. So far, as a pro he’s shown very good pass rushing ability as a DE. Appears to have the complete package and might be the gem of this draft class.

    Rolando McClain: I don’t think he’s a big hitter in the R. Lewis sense. Fans expecting him to lay people out might be a little disappointed, but he appears to be a very sure tackler and seems surprisingly adept against the pass. Seems ready to take charge and has not disappointed thus far.

    What to look for:

    The fate of the 2010 Raids will largely be determined by a needed marked improvement in the passing game and an ability to score some points.

    Yes, Campbell appears to bave a very nice short game, and we should be fine in that area. What remains to be seen is whether he can be consistent and accurate with his intermediate and long passes.

    Of course, even if Campbell can be an accurate upfield marksman, a marked improvement in our passing attack is contingent on the development of our young WRs and most importantly, the OL keeping him off his back.

    If the horses up front can get their act together and Campbell’s spirals start hitting receivers 18 yards downfield, this is a team that should be able to contend for the playoffs and win the AFC West.

    But we’ve got to score points. That’s job number one, and will make or break the 2010 Oakland Raiders.

  113. RaiderRockstar Says:

    question of the day:

    If con is the opposite of pro,
    is Congress the opposite of progress?

  114. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rolando McClain: I don’t think he’s a big hitter in the R. Lewis sense. Fans expecting him to lay people out might be a little disappointed

    ***

    what? he’s a Top 10 draft choice man

    If he can’t knock some fools out we should have taken somebody in RD4 to play the position. 6th rounder Travis Goethel looks just as good as ROMAC in the preseason imo

  115. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Antonin Scalia is a Constitute

  116. priesttj Says:

    Hobs Gnarly

    Son if you don’t know DHB gets doubled then I can’t help ya’. He was doubled the first time ever on the field vs Dallas last year in preseason.

    It is really a waste of time trying convince someone who’s as ignorant of the game as you are. You’re a typical fan who runs his month before you engage your brain.

    BTW most rookie WR’s have to develope to catch up to the speed of the game at this level. When I say develope it’s becoming very clear to me the 95% of you guy’sdon’t understand what I mean. PLaying in college and dominating is one thing but when you step on an NFL field it’s 5 levels higher than what you are used to that’s why the only rookie WR in recent memory who came in and dominated immediated was Randy Moss. The rest had to develope including JERRY RICE.

    When I say develope I mean adjusting to the speed and technigue at this level and you haven’t done it until you do it. McClain is adjusting so is Houston some do it faster than most but 90% of the players that comeinto this league have to make those adjustments in order to excel.

    Look at Mark Sanchez in NY he’s struggling like crazy so did Peyton Manning and Joe Montana they all have to make tons of adjustments. Because at this level it’s done for a living not as sport while you get an education. Most pros reallly don’t learn all there is to know until they’ve retired or are too old to execute it. It’s that cumbersum…..Nnamdi is stil learning and he’ll be learning until he retires. Ask any ex-great talent they’ll tell you what I’m saying is true.

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    TJ: due to “fatigue” Chaz & Darrius may be on the sideline for Week 1 with Louis Murphy & Johnnie Lee Higgins starting

  118. RaiderfanNY Says:

    The Raiders’ decision to rely on Schilens even after it became clear that he was not recovering well from his injury will haunt this team all year.

    We simply don’t have the WR talent to compete against top teams. In fact, we probably have the worst group of WRs in the NFL.

    In order for us to have a credible passing game this year, Murphy will need to have an 80-catch, 1,000-yard, 10-touchdown season. McFadden will probably have to go 70-600-6 out of the backfield. And Miller will have to better last year’s numbers and increase his TDs from 3 to 8 or so.

    That’s a minimum.

    I can’t see DHB doing better than 35-400-3. He has shown no signs of being able to get separation from coverage.

    The sad fact is that if Murphy isn’t great or McFadden gets hurt again, we’re going to be ending a lot of drives with field goals and losing a bunch of 16-13 type games.

    T.O., despite his baggage, would have been a great addition. Big Al needed to add SOME veteran (or 2). Now it’s probably too late.

  119. priesttj Says:

    Give McClain this season to get his feet on the ground right now he’s not reacting naturally he’s doing too much thinking. The players at this level are much smarter and faster.

    He’s a rookie but he brings a load you can see it when he hits you you go down. It’s not like Kirk where he bounces off the hit when he hits their legs go dead.

    But just like Ray Lewis had to do he needs the game to slow down for him and when it does ………lookout!!

  120. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Goethel does look good. Made a nice special teams tackle in Chicago and seems to move very well. Big boy too.

    As far as McClain not being a Ray Lewis type big bopper…this doesn’t mean he won’t be an outstanding professional LB, or worthy of being the 8th overall selection.

    Do I wish he was a huge hitter ? You bet. I’m just saying my hunch is he isn’t one, or at least the type of banger you would think a guy his size could be. His strengths seems to be reading, leading and sure tackling. Also appears surprisingly adept against the pass for a guy his size.

  121. priesttj Says:

    RRS

    What are you smoking? DHB is playing this weekend he practiced yesterday. DMC and DHB will start the opener

  122. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Jwigg, Dirt, Hwnrdr, RR, Vegas, Priest, Bo, Lakota, Plunkett, Thec, NoFargas!!!!!

    ….its a good day to be a Raider Fan!!!

    :)

  123. hwnrdr Says:

    r8eray Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Good Morning Jwigg, Dirt, Hwnrdr, RR, Vegas, Priest, Bo, Lakota, Plunkett, Thec, NoFargas!!!!!

    ….its a good day to be a Raider Fan!!!

    Yes it is…Good morning to ya!

  124. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McClain may not be a HUGGGE hitter, but they way he hit that TE last week and drove him backwards is hard enough for me.

  125. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    “We’ll be smart in terms of his workload, is probably the only issue here. Once we get there Saturday we go play.”
    ====================================================
    There he goes AGAIN with the ‘in terms of’ crap. Cut the BS and start speaking in fact.

  126. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would be suprised if Darren gets more than 15 touches all preseason.

    Too fragile.

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you guys have obviously lowered your expectations after seeing him play … WEAK!

    I want to see a monster at MLB that absolutely trashes people.

    if Lando isn’t the guy, put Travis in and let him crack some skulls

  128. r8eray Says:

    Don’t really want to lose the Battle of the Bay this weekened! But if it keeps our starters healthy for the season opener by all means….let them sit!!!

    Remember…we play them in the regular season too!!

  129. hwnrdr Says:

    This one don’t matter, especially if our starters win the first half!

  130. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    McClain may not be a HUGGGE hitter, but they way he hit that TE last week and drove him backwards is hard enough for me.

    ——————-

    Me too. Nice play by Rolando. I think it was Olsen. Ro just seemed to tap him and there was no doubt he was going down.

  131. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good mornin’ ray

    I’m not worried about playing SF

    I think we could sit all those guys we did last week – plus Samson Satele (obviously) and still win the game by 14

    Gore, Westbrook, Crabtree & VDais didn’t play against Minny … not sure what thier status will be for this game

  132. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I want to see a monster at MLB that absolutely trashes people.

    *************************************

    Exactly how many of those guys are in the league?

    I will take a more physical version of Derrick Brooks (which McClain is) any day of the week.

  133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    VDavis or Vernon Davis rather. not “VDais”

    LOL, sorry for the confusion

  134. r8eray Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    I would be suprised if Darren gets more than 15 touches all preseason.

    Too fragile.
    =============================================

    I think we’ll be using McFadden different this year. I’m sure Jackson has got some few plays up his sleeve!
    Flats, WildHog or WildCat, and screens will be implemented into the gameplan!

  135. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I will take a more physical version of Derrick Brooks (which McClain is) any day of the week.

    ***

    JFB: Brooks was a WLB on a Tampa 2 defense

    LOL! hardly an enforcer unless you’re a sliding 35 year old QB named Gannon

  136. r8eray Says:

    I’ve seen last weeks game vs the Bengholes about 3 times. I did notice McClain all over the field and about 3 1/2 HUGE (Ray Lewis type) hits!
    I’m excited for the Raider Nation and this kid, he is something special!

  137. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Brooks was a MLB.

  138. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    they played Chi-town last week….not the bungholes.

  139. The Big Banana Says:

    Good morning all.

    RR – in your updated 53, why so many linebackers? Is it because Williams is on scholarship? Probably won’t happen but, considering how fragile DMAC is, I’d think about keeping a 4th RB especially since Cartwright is good in special teams.

    Also, you have Watkins over Nick Miller. If Miller can stay healthy, I’m thinking Watkins is the odd man out.

    Solid list though.

  140. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Brooks was a MLB.

    ***

    False

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks Banana

    why so many backers? because they are valuable on ST and can play multiple positions

    Example: Scott, Groves & Wimbley can also play DE

    Brown, Goethel, Williams are ST studs. Brown can play any LB spot and Williams is best suited for backup WLB but has started every LB spot for us at one time or another. Goethel looks like a real find!

    only 3 DE’s because Seymour, Kelly & Bryant can play there on occasion (if need be)

    Watkins over NMiller is a no brainer and Cartwright as a 4th RB would be alright, but we’d have to lob off an O-Lineman to make room and already have major question marks there, especially now with injuries to Satele (ankle) and Walker (back)

  142. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Was DHB worthy of being the 7th player taken ?

    Probably not.

    But here’s the thing…

    DHB has unbelievable top end speed. Al sees DHB’s speed, also sees his questionable hands, and says ‘WTF, I’m swinging for the fences on this one, we’ll teach the kid how to run routes and catch the rock and we’ll see who laughs last’.

    We’ll see how the gamble pays off. Might turn out to be a whiff but it also could be a homer.

    My 2 most memorable DHB moments thus far:

    1) Grads is in, we’re gonna win this thing. The Chefs are going down. And then…Grad’s perfect pass clanks off DHB’s hands…game over.

    2) It’s a nice day in the Meadowlands, except the Raids are getting blown out by the Giants. JaMoron fades back, throws left…and as usual..picked off. The NYG is returning the pick…he wants 6…suddenly a blur is coming up behind him…only the blur doesn’t tackle the Giant from behind…he runs past him and waits for the Giant to run to him. Not much football savvy, experience or instinct shown on that play. But even my Eagle fan buddy is impressed…we’re watching the replay and he says ‘Holy Sheet, who is that kid, he’s faaaast’.

    If you saw the play, you know what he meant. You just can’t teach that kind of speed. It really stood out.

  143. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if Heyward-Bey isn’t “tired” he’s your #1 WR and he’ll produce … period

    50 catches, 900 yards & 11 TD’s

  144. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    RR, how do you figure? 11 TDs? He could even catch 11 passes.

  145. Raider75 Says:

    # RaiderfanNY Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    The Raiders’ decision to rely on Schilens even after it became clear that he was not recovering well from his injury will haunt this team all year.

    We simply don’t have the WR talent to compete against top teams. In fact, we probably have the worst group of WRs in the NFL.

    In order for us to have a credible passing game this year, Murphy will need to have an 80-catch, 1,000-yard, 10-touchdown season. McFadden will probably have to go 70-600-6 out of the backfield. And Miller will have to better last year’s numbers and increase his TDs from 3 to 8 or so.

    That’s a minimum.

    I can’t see DHB doing better than 35-400-3. He has shown no signs of being able to get separation from coverage.

    The sad fact is that if Murphy isn’t great or McFadden gets hurt again, we’re going to be ending a lot of drives with field goals and losing a bunch of 16-13 type games.

    T.O., despite his baggage, would have been a great addition. Big Al needed to add SOME veteran (or 2). Now it’s probably too late.
    ………………..
    Another intelligent post.

    I have zero confidence in this WR unit.

    TO would have been nice, but it didn’t have to be him. There were others out there who would have instantly upgraded this week unit.

    1 injury to to either Murphy or JLH and the passing game will be done.

    DHB running wind sprints down the sideline does not make a passing game.

  146. Raider75 Says:

    * weak unit

  147. The Big Banana Says:

    It’s a nice day in the Meadowlands, except the Raids are getting blown out by the Giants. JaMoron fades back, throws left…and as usual..picked off. The NYG is returning the pick…he wants 6…suddenly a blur is coming up behind him…only the blur doesn’t tackle the Giant from behind…he runs past him and waits for the Giant to run to him.
    ======================================================

    LOL! I remember that play RAIDERMAN. Hilarious!…and sad at the same time. I remember thinking to myself “where the he11 is he going?” He almost looked like he was saying to the Giants ball carrier “Ha ha – I can run faster than you!”

  148. RaiderRockstar Says:

    how do you figure? 11 TDs? He could even catch 11 passes.

    ***

    Mudslide: you’re talking about a rookie with Russell at QB and Cable as play caller who missed 4 games due to injury

    Maclin or Harvin might have only had 9 catches under those circumstances too!

  149. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Terrell Owens is a peice of crap. we don’t need that guy

    lure Muhsin Muhammad out of retirement if you want a vet mentor who can move the chains

  150. J Wiggle Says:

    Re updated 53 …

    You’re going with Williams at LB over Joseph at DT?

    Going to be really interesting to see how the DTs end up. William Joseph is ahead of Henderson on the depth chart and played for Waufle in NY.

    I think it may also come down to Goethel or Williams.

  151. The Big Banana Says:

    I agree with the concern over Schilens. We’re relying on him and I just don’t have any hope that he’ll be healthy for any decent stretch this season. We’ll see him here or there but I’m just not convinced he’ll last. Unfortunate but true.

  152. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Muhsin Muhammad has been added as a football analyst by the Big Ten Network.

    BigTenNetwork‎: LeCharles Bentley, Rosevelt Colvin, Muhsin Muhammad, Derek Rackley, Amani Toomer & Dan Dierdorf

  153. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    the Moose is done!

  154. J Wiggle Says:

    Exactly …

    DHB will get plenty of balls thrown his way, and my guess is he comes up with at least 3 per game. Like I said before, don’t let DHB catch like 4 or 5 in a row and his confidence actaully goes through the roof, lol.

    Confidence + DHB’s physical skills = ridiculous WR

  155. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    gonna have to wait for roster cuts to add a notable WR, at least in name.

  156. The Big Banana Says:

    I agree J Wiggle. I understand your argument, RR, but I think this is the year that Williams might get let go. He may have played at every spot over the years but he’s good at none of them.

  157. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You’re going with Williams at LB over Joseph at DT?

    Going to be really interesting to see how the DTs end up. William Joseph is ahead of Henderson on the depth chart and played for Waufle in NY.

    I think it may also come down to Goethel or Williams.

    ***

    You’re right. Waufle & Joseph were together in NY from 2004-2007.

    If Joseph outplays Henderson at DT, fine.

    Joseph was waived in favor of Ryan Boschetti last year though, wasn’t he? they re-signed him when Cable decided that Paul McQuistan isn’t a fit for the zbs

  158. J Wiggle Says:

    The WR panic is baseless. WRs are a dime a dozen. Miles Austin comes outta no where last year. Some 7th rd guy blows up in Indy. Colston in NO.

    The bottom line is good play calling and solid QB play. You don’t see our guys out there dropping a ridiculous amount of ball. Murphy, DHB, JLH, and Ford are a solid 4. Young, but solid. Is there another group of WRs out there with size and speed that we have?

    I fail to see how we were so reliant on Chaz?

  159. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think Joseph was waived in early 08 for Ashley Lelie and early 09 for Richard Seymour too …

    seems no other NFL team wants him

  160. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    bring back Lelie!

  161. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I fail to see how we were so reliant on Chaz?

    ***

    Agreed with Jwigg

    Chaz Schilens has 44 catches in 3 years!

    averages less than 15 catches per season …

    he doesn’t make or break the WR corps and certainly doesn’t make or break the passing game or OFFENSE

  162. fat kidd Says:

    If there was ever a way to describe an Oakland Raiders tailgate party to someone who has never been to the Oakland Coliseum for a Raiders home game, I would tell them to re-watch California Love by Tupac and Dr. Dre.
    Even though this music video was made 13 years ago, without question, this video best captures what it’s like to walk through the parking lot on Sunday mourning’s. It’s wild, dirty, grimy, and fun.
    Look at the clothes Tupac and Dr. Dre and other actors wear in the video; now, multiply that by 100 and you then have what its like for a Raider Nation tailgate party.
    If you are a real Raiders fan, then you must attend Raiders home games; it doesn’t matter if you are out of state or not. There are only eight regular season home games per year. Get your friends and family together and plan a trip to Oakland. The airport is right next to the Coliseum along the 880 freeway; it will be a trip well worth the travel.
    For residents of the Bay Area and Raiders fans through out California who travel to the Oakland Coliseum for games, tailgating is a must—a chance to walk among fellow Raiders fans in a sea of black.
    You will see men, women, and even little kids dressed just like Tupac in that California Love video. What is great about the Raiders is that we don’t have a certain mascot, we have a theme and a image; therefore, it is up to each fan to create there own identity.
    You might see Gorilla Rilla walking around the parking a lot with a beer in one hand and smoking a blunt in the other, or Shield Head taking pictures with some females.
    There is Pin-Head, Darth Vader, Skull Head, Fro Man, Black Knuckles, the list goes on and on.
    Anyone who’s ever took BART to a Oakland Raiders game knows the routine: You and some friends wake up extra early, you then drive to whatever grocery or liquor store you go to, stock up on beers, food, and blunts.
    On BART, there is nothing but Raiders fans waiting to hit the Coliseum. Before you’re even off the train you hear chants of, “Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiders!”
    For people who have never done this, your next step is to walk up the stairs to the tunnel. As soon as you hit the tunnel you will be hit by the scalpers.
    “Who needs tickets?”
    “Who has tickets to sell?”
    Your best bet is to leave those guys alone. If you’re really about your business, then you already have your ticket.
    As you exit the tunnel, always go to the right. That is the Raider Nation side; the left side is for the RV’s. Both sides are good, but the real parties go down on the right side (side closes towards downtown Oakland).
    Walking down the hill around the Coliseum at first glance, you see nothing but a sea of black, tailgate parties after party.
    In the air all you smell barbeque and purp, as you have now entered the Black Hole. Welcome to Oakland.
    The setting isn’t one for a team who has gone 24-72 over the last six seasons. You would think this is the home for the defending Super Bowl champions the way Oakland Raiders fans party.
    It’s over the top and extreme. Now, I’m not saying every single person is like this, but you will see things in Oakland that you won’t see anywhere else in the world.
    As great of time is the pregame tailgating parties are, the only thing missing from the event is for the Raiders to win.
    Last season I went to every home game for the Raiders from Monday Night vs Denver to getting soaked in the rain vs Houston.
    I can’t think of a worse feeling off the top of my head then waking up at 8 AM, going to the game, getting drunk, getting all pumped up, cheering, rooting, and cussing at other teams fans, only to see the Oakland Raiders lose the game.
    Some of my friends who are Raider haters call my phone, leave me text messages trying to make me more upset.
    It’s a feeling of “Don’t talk to me; don’t call me; leave me alone; I’m drunk and don’t won’t to deal with it.” Walking back to the BART, there are thousands of Raiders fans who feel the same way. It’s quiet, almost like zombies walking back on BART.
    However, when the Raiders win, it’s a whole different story. The party from inside the stadium only continues outside as you see Raiders fans celebrate in joy, or as the Bay calls it, “Going dumb, getting stupid, popping collars, and picking fights with the other teams fans.”
    Last season, the Raiders only won two home games vs the New York Jets and Houston Texans.
    I will be going to all the home games for this upcoming season, and hope that we can have a better home record this season.
    Since I’m from the Bay, it’s nothing to go to a game, but Raiders fans from out of state this season, take the chance and come to a game this season. If the Raiders win, it will be an experience you will always remember.

  163. J Wiggle Says:

    Brooks was a MLB.

    ***

    False

    ——————————————————-

    True

  164. J Wiggle Says:

    Don’t get me wrong about Joseph. I’m not advocating he make it over anyone. Just acknowledging a couple of facts.

    1) He played before Henderson in the Chicago game

    2) He has a history with the NEW Dline coach.

  165. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think this is the year that Williams might get let go. He may have played at every spot over the years but he’s good at none of them.

    ***

    Banana: if you don’t think the Raiders value ST, you should check out the contracts given to Janikowski, Lechler, Condo & Ekejiuba – the highest paid at all of thier positions. Ike has recently been released due to the play of Goethel, who will also back up McClain at MLB.

    Williams basically replaces Alston on ST. Ricky Brown is a holdover and was a starter before injury. simply can’t rely on the guy to stay healthy, but he’s effective when he’s in there

    I see Nixon & Norris on the PS again, along with Daniels, NMiller and Heard.

  166. Thec07 Says:

    r8eray Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Good Morning Jwigg, Dirt, Hwnrdr, RR, Vegas, Priest, Bo, Lakota, Plunkett, Thec, NoFargas!!!!!

    ….its a good day to be a Raider Fan!!!

    +++++++++++

    Good Morning Bro…It is a great day to be a Raider Fan…

  167. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:11 am
    good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, Plunk, Lakota, NMF, JFB, Thec and the rest of the AM crew!

    ++++++++++

    What up Rock? I am taking a break from a very boring meeting…document control….zzzzzzzzzzzz

  168. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thec: glad to see your boy JFORD healthy and ready to contribute

    we’ll need him with Chaz out!

    I was wondering if he could play in the slot if Murphy & Higgins start ???

  169. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg & JFB both think Derrick Brooks played MLB for the Bucs?

    LOL!

    wait until ROG sees this one …

  170. inonewordraider Says:

    Were gonna win the AFC West. Bush is a load at RB and Mcfadden will have a breakout year with Hue getting the most out of his abilities. With Jason at the healm DHB, Murphy, Higgins, and Miller will do enough to keep D’s honest and our stable O will keep our elite D fresh.

  171. J Wiggle Says:

    So RRS …

    You’re telling me that Derrick Brooks played on the LOS?

  172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You’re telling me that Derrick Brooks played on the LOS?

    ***

    Jwigg: don’t get it twisted

    you read exactly what I said earlier …

    Brooks played WLB in the Tampa 2

    no further explanation required

  173. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 9:48 am
    Thec: glad to see your boy JFORD healthy and ready to contribute

    we’ll need him with Chaz out!

    I was wondering if he could play in the slot if Murphy & Higgins start ???

    ++++++++++++++++++

    I think the kid is up to the task if we need to start Murphy and JLH… Did you see his 2 catches against Chi last week. He has good hands tech, looks very fluid running routes… He and NMILLER will be in the slot when JLH, and DMAC is not….

    GO Route team;

    DMAC
    JLH
    JFORD
    DHB

  174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NMILLER will be in the slot

    ***

    Who ???

  175. Thec07 Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Were gonna win the AFC West. Bush is a load at RB and Mcfadden will have a breakout year with Hue getting the most out of his abilities. With Jason at the healm DHB, Murphy, Higgins, and Miller will do enough to keep D’s honest and our stable O will keep our elite D fresh.

    +++++++++++++++

    I beleive if our O-Line can perform up to par…
    We will win the west….The team success and failure is all on the O-line…It is the only piece that needs to play consistent. Hopefully the rooks can step in and step up….

    Look forward to the new rookies getting run…

  176. Thec07 Says:

    Gotta run back to the meetining you guys enjoy your day…

    Raider Nation….

  177. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 9:56 am
    NMILLER will be in the slot

    ***

    Who ???

    ++++++++++++

    lol

  178. J Wiggle Says:

    Re Derrick Brooks …

    Not really that importand to me. You say he was a WLB, fine with me. I’ll take your word for it.

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    inonewordraider:

    here are the keys man …

    1) can the OL hold up in pass protection long enough to give JCamp time to find a target without checking down or throwing it away?

    2) can the OL open running lanes and quit the false start penalties that handicap drives?

    3) If Z.Miller is doubled, can the young wides run crisp routes and get seperation? or perhaps most importantly … catch the ball ???

    4) can DMAC stay healthy and can Hue Jax find creative ways to get him the ball in his hands?

    5) will we be able to run up the middle with trash at Center & Fullback or will these positions eventually be addressed?

  180. Lakota Says:

    Brooks was originally a Sam and was moved to Will by Dungy.

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not really that importand to me.

    ***

    it never is when you’re wrong :)

    Go Heat!

  182. J Wiggle Says:

    OK, so that’s the trifecta …

    WLB, MLB, and SLB

    Brooks was da man!

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Brooks was da man!

    ***

    Aaron Brooks?

  184. J Wiggle Says:

    it never is when you’re wrong

    ——————————————————-

    You’d be surprised how many things I’m right about aren’t that important to me either. You know, like Routt and TK off the top of my head.

    If Brooks was a Raider then maybe we could spend a bit more time on it.

  185. J Wiggle Says:

    Go Heat!

    —————————————————-

    Who ????

  186. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: what have Kelly & Routt ever done in the regular season besides disappoint?

    I’ll wait

  187. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    priest,

    look here son, i am tired of your company line. did you ever feel like a fool in your defense of jafatarse? how many years did you tell us about the talent there? guess what your looking like a fool again with dhb. whatever your story is, whether your a paid blogger for al’s defense or just a lame fan who lives in yesterday, i don’t care. you are old in your constant al davis propaganda, so predictable like an al davis defense. telling everyone they don’t know football who disagrees with you. here is what i see, i see louis murphy has more talent and heart in his little pinky then does dhb and he was taken in the fourth round. dhb got taken out of the game in dallas on the first play and was never heard of again. c’mon, we all live the raiders but i am pretty sure i’m not the only one rolling their eyes at you. yes man

  188. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: Heat = best team in the NBA

    sorry, I had you mistaken for a basketball guy!

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hobs Gnarly:

    don’t you ever get tired of giving TJ a beatdown?

    thats like Brown picking on Fatt Kidd

  190. J Wiggle Says:

    RRS …

    This is 2010-2011 season.

    TK at DT with Seymour is the topic not last year.

    Routt being a decent CB on the outside or in a starters role is the topic, not last year.

    Keep up!

  191. J Wiggle Says:

    sorry, I had you mistaken for a basketball guy!

    ——————————————————-

    It’s ok, I never mistook you for a basketball in the first place. I think your basketball babble was 0 for the season, lol.

  192. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Keep up!

    ***

    Jwigg: it’s hard to do

    according to my political views I’m still living in the good old days :)

  193. J Wiggle Says:

    Well I actaully agree with Priest’s DHB take. I think the kid is going to produce for us!

  194. J Wiggle Says:

    I’m still living in the good old days

    ——————————————————-

    Como ????

  195. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: so the only way TK can produce is if he’s next to a Pro Bowler Super Bowl champ to take up double teams?

    and if you hadn’t noticed … N21 & CJ37 both missed the game against Chicago

    WMAC = slot guy.

    is Routt competing with Ware for the dime package?

  196. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 10:15 am
    Keep up!

    ***

    Jwigg: it’s hard to do

    according to my political views I’m still living in the good old days

    ……………………….like when you guys invaded poland the good ole days.

  197. J Wiggle Says:

    so the only way TK can produce is if he’s next to a Pro Bowler Super Bowl champ to take up double teams?

    ——————————————————

    So Seymour will be the one gettign doubled?

    How’s that going to happen with him playing the 3 tech?

  198. J Wiggle Says:

    and if you hadn’t noticed … N21 & CJ37 both missed the game against Chicago

    ——————————————————-

    And CJ played well as a starter, right or wrong?

  199. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ played well as a starter, right or wrong?

    ***

    last year regular season?

    very well!

  200. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How’s that going to happen with him playing the 3 tech?

    ***

    Sapp or Stroud never got doubled?

    3 tech’s getting doubled all the time!

    ask Tommie Harris …

  201. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    rock,

    no i don’t get tired of calling priest out, dude is just another al davis propagandist. our gm needs to be fired. i am very excited about the season (as i have been before) however nothing will change unless al let’s things change. we can go far this season, but only if al let’s the defense game plan for specific each team individually and not philosophically with what he’s always done. no team is good enough when the other teams know what your gonna do ahead of time.

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fatty, like when an elephant farted and you were born the good ole days …

  203. J Wiggle Says:

    3 tech’s getting doubled all the time!

    ——————————————————

    Tell Raider O that, lol!

  204. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    I think tk only produces when he wants to. with the high hopes in the locker room that dude is a target, if things go sour look for him to be 60% effort.

  205. J Wiggle Says:

    propagandist.

    ——————————————————

    lol!

  206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tell Raider O that

    ***

    the talking monkey that thinks Huff is a bust?

  207. Plunketthead Says:

    I bet DHB has a better game then Michael Knuckleheadtree this weekend and the best career as well.

  208. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    The team is looking better. Maybe we win 7! However, every time I read Tom Cable’s Q&A I can’t help but think he is an imbecil, a total tool with zero empowerment just sailing the seas of cheese.

  209. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hobs Gnarly: what player would you compare TK to?

  210. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    “– Not long ago, Cable talked of the move of Alex Daniels from defensive line to fullback as something that was out of the experiment stage. He was wearing No. 71 Tuesday, instead of No. 39.”

    All that talk and he is going to be cut!!!

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  211. Plunketthead Says:

    I am thinking Cable talked Al into picking DHB over knuckleheadtree.

    Anyone agree or was DHB all Al’s pick

  212. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I think TK only produces when he is lucky and only gets attention when he gets his pants pulled down on national TV.

  213. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Cable was at a Carls Jr drive through when the Raiders picked DHB

  214. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    sands
    potential is there but only if he wants to

  215. Plunketthead Says:

    MM

    I think Cable does a great job at PC. He does not hem or haw. He speaks quickly and sounds like a real pro.

    Remember coaches are not supposed to tell us everything. They play it close to the vest, especially Al’s coaches. Long history of that being so.

  216. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jwigg: there you have it

    Kelly = Sands!

    Hobs Gnarly has spoken …

  217. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I’m not asking Cable to tell us everything, I just expect his comments on general stuff like the weather and travel to come out in sentence form.

  218. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i really think cable is the reason the team has jelled. those guys are playing for him and that’s half the battle.

  219. raidersxy Says:

    Anyone watching the Broncos play Detroit right now on NFLN??

    Man Denver looks like garbage! I bet we sweep them and KC this year for the first time in a loooooong time. SD maybe 1-1

  220. inonewordraider Says:

    Our OL has good depth, good coaching, a good anchor in Gallery, and mobile qb behind them. The Chargers are going to plummett, the question is can we consistently play disciplined and with ferocity because we aren’t that much better or worse than anybody in the league…

  221. RaiderRockstar Says:

    XY: every year we talk about sweeping KC or Dungver and possibly taking a game from Sandy Eggo.

    then we trot out a low intensity effort or shoot ourselves in the foot and end up being lowsy.

    we REALLY should have fixed the O-Line this offseason to give Campbell, Bush, Murphy, Miller & Co a fighting chance

    expect to see Seabass & Shane a lot this year, unfortunately

  222. raidersxy Says:

    The addition of Cambell and the Subtraction of Jamarcus alone makes this team better by 3 wins atleast!

    Russell Started what 11 games last season and this team won 2 under his lead.

    We have all had a lot of hope for this season because the off-season has looked so prosperous vs. any year in the past 7.

    8-8 or better!

  223. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    from Tom Cable’s offensive playcalling for dumies cheat sheet: what to do when you team is:
    between the 20’s: run Mcfadden down the middle
    backed inside your 5: send Murphy and DHB deep on a “collision” route
    4th & 15 from the Opp 35: Run a fake FG to speedster Janikowski.

  224. BigTed707 Says:

    Did anyone catch J-Camp w/Rich Eisen lastnight on NFLN?

    Rich asked about Al comparing J-Camp to Plunkett. J was like, “aww man, talk about pressure!”. He then went on to explain that Al meant that they were similar in the way that they came to Oakland, both looking for a fresh start.

    When asked if, in so many words, Al handles the offense, J-Camp responded that Al “just wants one thing.” He said that Al has handed the reins to coach Jackson. He never mentioned Cable at all.

    When asked about Haynesworth – JC basically said that the Media is making a big deal out of it, and that it distracts from the other players who are there working hard.

    It was a good interview, and J-Camp seems to be a good guy with a decent head on his shoulders. He looked very comfortable toting the company line.
    No Knuckleheads!

    Go Raiders, 1-0!

  225. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Our OL has good depth, good coaching, a good anchor in Gallery, and mobile qb behind them.

    ***

    Even if we start the rooks, as many suggest … the “depth” would be Barnes, Carlisle, Satele & Pears and there’s no guarantee Veldheer & Campbell will outplay Satele & Carlisle anyways!

    O-Line = hot garbage

    just hope we can win games in spite of it, as JFB suggests

  226. raidersxy Says:

    Rockstar I agree the line needs more talent, but even though our Offense has been putrid with Russell running it our biggest weakness was the defense giving up the big play. I love the additions of WImbley and McCalin and Houston to help shore up this defense and put us in the top half of the league in points and yards allowed.

    Even with Russell our D kept us in games. No without Russell and even better D we should be well off.

  227. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Robert Gallery is pure hype: Look at the game vs Chicago. Called offsides and for holding in the same set of downs. This guy is supposed to be our anchor? he’s got short arms and can’t stay onsides from the guard position.

  228. RaiderRockstar Says:

    J-Camp seems to be a good guy with a decent head on his shoulders. He looked very comfortable toting the company line.

    ***

    LOL @ Ted, thanks man. now we know why Al traded for him

    let’s just hope the guy can play quarterback!

  229. raidersxy Says:

    Dolphins traded Camarillo to the Vikings. That was a dumb move the Dolphins were looking like contenders in the AFC east this season.

  230. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Our best O-lineman is Veldheer, that might change once Cable works his magic on him.

  231. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Hobs Gnarly

    Son if you don’t know DHB gets doubled then I can’t help ya’. He was doubled the first time ever on the field vs Dallas last year in preseason.

    Richochet: And then was promptly discarded as mostly hype.
    “fast but doesn’t get separation”
    In other words, no big deal.
    #####################

    It is really a waste of time trying convince someone who’s as ignorant of the game as you are. You’re a typical fan who runs his month before you engage your brain.

    Richochet: You wrote the book on that. Some suspect that is your mantra in life. sprout off all this “inside knowledge” only to be proven later you weren’t there, that you never talked to anyone, and that you have a friend of a friend who knows someone in the organization.
    ##################

    PLaying in college and dominating is one thing

    Richochet: Except DHB DIDN’T dominate. Not in a single area. Nothing. Zero. No accolades. No awards..just was a track guy who ran fast.
    Oh wait..he’s still a track guy who runs fast…
    Well then…there you go..
    ################

    Look at Mark Sanchez in NY he’s struggling like crazy so did Peyton Manning and Joe Montana they all have to make tons of adjustments.

    Richochet: While they all struggled at times, they also showed flashes from day one of things to come.
    It’s year two for DHB..
    Too much to ask to see just a glimmer of flash…sometime soon…this year??? maybe???

    Oh wait…he’s fast.

    Got cha.

  232. Plunketthead Says:

    If we had tried to fix the line we would not have Mclain or Houston.
    Although I thought that was what Al would do. I wanted to trade down for Ryan Matthews and some Olinemen

  233. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Our best O-lineman is Veldheer, that might change once Cable works his magic on him.

    ***

    Macho, wouldn’t surprise me!

    Mario Henderson gave up the most sacks in the LEAGUE last year. Veldheer didn’t give up a single sack in 4 years in college at LT and we got the 6′8″ giant playing Center ???

  234. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 8:51 am

    good mornin’ ray

    I’m not worried about playing SF

    I think we could sit all those guys we did last week – plus Samson Satele (obviously) and still win the game by 14

    Gore, Westbrook, Crabtree & VDais didn’t play against Minny … not sure what thier status will be for this game
    ==========================
    Morning paper said Singletary MIGHT put in Gore, but not sure, but that West, Crab and Davis won’t be in.

  235. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dolphins traded Camarillo to the Vikings

    ***

    does that mean the Vikings passed on Javon Walker ???

  236. BigTed707 Says:

    K. Wimbley is about to be on 860am.

  237. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Morning paper said Singletary MIGHT put in Gore, but not sure, but that West, Crab and Davis won’t be in.

    ***

    thanks Rich!

    Gore would be a good test for this defense, especially if Seymour can’t go

    we’ll see if Desmond Bryant can hold the A gap this time …

  238. Richochet Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Terrell Owens is a peice of crap. we don’t need that guy============

    That “piece of crap” is better than anyone we have.
    Who else even comes close?

    Question: What was the last thing T.O. did that was a “distraction”, and WHO did it distract?

    See?

    You’re still thinking..nothing in Detroit, minimum in Dallas…
    Don’t care about drama..T.O.’s a playmaker, and the Raiders need a playmaker..BAD.

  239. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Why defend DHB? he has done nothing. How the hell do you back up he is gonna become a mediocre player? And saying he is on the same path as Peyton Manning and Joe Montana?

  240. raidersxy Says:

    I think they picked up Walker still too in regards to the Vikings getting Camarillo

  241. Richochet Says:

    # J Wiggle Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Exactly …

    DHB will get plenty of balls thrown his way, and my guess is he comes up with at least 3 per game. Like I said before, don’t let DHB catch like 4 or 5 in a row and his confidence actaully goes through the roof, lol.

    Confidence + DHB’s physical skills = ridiculous WR
    ========================
    4 OR 5 IN A ROW???

    DHB’s NEVER caught 4 or 5 in a row..was his knock in college of dropping easy balls..along with bobbling balls when wide open.

    I wish I could get excited about the physical skill of running fast, because so far that’s not enough.

    Update: Confidence + DHB’s physical skills + learning to catch and hold on to ball = ridiculous WR

  242. BigTed707 Says:

    S’ok, we’ll see ‘em Oct. 17.
    It’s just one of our 10 wins!

  243. raidersxy Says:

    I think DHB needs to get a rhythm, once he gets his first 40+ yard TD he will find that spark and grow

  244. Richochet Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    I bet DHB has a better game then Michael Knuckleheadtree this weekend and the best career as well.
    =======================
    This weekend, Plunk? Hope so..Crab isn’t playing.

    Career? Hmmm..considering that in his first game, after missing all of training camp, all of the preseason games, and first half of the season, that Crab had more receptions than DHB did in his previous 7 games, I wouldn’t bet a lot of money on that.

  245. J Wiggle Says:

    Update: Confidence + DHB’s physical skills + learning to catch and hold on to ball = ridiculous WR

    ——————————————————

    DHB played like he looked in practice last year.

    THIS year, he has learned how to catch and hold on to the ball by all accounts.

  246. inonewordraider Says:

    T.O. vs Louis Murphy

    speed: Murphy
    strength: TO
    routes: TO
    hands: even
    teammate: Murphy
    cost: Murphy

  247. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Raiders need a playmaker..BAD.

    ***

    thats true Rich and nobody can debate that

    I just think we should have went after a veteran WR like Moose or Lav Coles – instead we drafted Jacoby Ford

    the last thing we needed was ANOTHER young wide for Sanjay friggin Lal to groom!

    not a T.O. fan – never have been, never will be

  248. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    RR: That Sanjay Lal is a miracle worker! lol!

  249. BigTed707 Says:

    ….But TO is Batman!
    Puhleeeez!

    Ochocinco (AKA Robin) is the reciever in that relationship, and I’m not talkin’ football.

  250. Plunketthead Says:

    Rico

    You just have to have faith. : )

  251. Richochet Says:

    So much for the notion Cable is “involved” in player personnel decisions.

    This morning paper:

    Cable: “Don’t know if we contacted the Browns about Wembley, or if the Browns contacted us.”

    “…I’m glad they didn’t want him, if that’s the case, and he’s ours.”

    That is about as far out of the loop as you can get..

  252. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Man, I wish we had Ocho and T.O. instead of Murphy DHB & JLH

  253. BigTed707 Says:

    LOL
    860am teased Wimbley, then put on BHP.

  254. Richochet Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Rico

    You just have to have faith. : )
    ==================
    A “Crab in the pot” is better than a “baited pot with lots of faith”

    Or something like that :)

  255. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ted: if Owens & Ocho are Batman & Robin I think we know why Davis wasn’t interested in either player …

    Davis & Cable = Joker & Penguin

  256. Richochet Says:

    # Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Man, I wish we had Ocho and T.O. instead of Murphy DHB & JLH
    ==================
    That’s a serious scary combo

  257. Plunketthead Says:

    TO showed off the other night with fresh legs

    I am just guessing here but I bet 4 games into the season his dogs will be more tired then DMAC,s.

    He wont be able to make the sharp cuts needed and he will get tired of getting hit when he has to go for the tough catch

  258. BigTed707 Says:

    ok, they got rid of priest, Wimbley is on now.

  259. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    TO might be old and get tired midway through the season…beats the hell outa having DHB who can’t catch and gets fatigued after the 1st preseason game.

  260. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Ted: if Owens & Ocho are Batman & Robin I think we know why Davis wasn’t interested in either player …

    Davis & Cable = Joker & Penguin
    =========================
    LMAO…Yeah, Cable=Penguin is easy to see…

    Winnie the Pooh with stubble also comes to mind…

    Samwise Gamgee after a month long binge?…

  261. BigTed707 Says:

    Wimbley: “..with quility depth, we don’t let up.”

  262. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Plunk: at the first hint of frustration, Owens will be in the face of Lewis, Palmer or the Bengals OC

    the Bengals have formed a team of misfits, cast offs, malcontents and ex cons – seriously reminds me of the Raiders of old because the dudes have talent

    Owens might fit like a glove?!?

    speaking of … trade Nick Miller for Gary Payton!

  263. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable = Winnie the Pooh with stubble?

    bwahahahahahaha!

  264. BigTed707 Says:

    Wimbley on Romac – Natural Leader, and Eager to Learn.

  265. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Romac – Natural Leader, and Eager to Learn.

    ***

    Sounds like Kirk Morrison!

  266. fat kidd Says:

    Raiders’ McFadden expects to make preseason debut
    CBSSports.com:
    PLAYERS: Darren McFadden
    TEAMS: Oakland Raiders

    Oakland Raiders running back Darren McFadden practiced for the first time in more than two weeks Tuesday and expects to make his preseason debut this weekend against San Francisco. Then expects to be cut afterwards.

  267. BigTed707 Says:

    Tom Cable is a total Pooh Bear. That’s funny stuff.

  268. Plunketthead Says:

    You DHB naysayers will be eating crow brefore the season is over.

  269. Richochet Says:

    Back to work…damn.
    too hot to work.

  270. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Then expects to be cut afterwards.

    ***

    Fat Slobb: your love affair with CJ Spiller has clouded your judgement!

  271. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Darren McFadden’s nickname next offseason = DM2K

    2088 rushing yards

  272. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    that’s some good smoke, eh RR?

  273. BigTed707 Says:

    Tittle disagrees with BHP on DHB.
    Priest never gives up, I’ll give him that!

  274. fat kidd Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Then expects to be cut afterwards.

    ***

    Fat Slobb: your love affair with CJ Spiller has clouded your judgement!

    …………….practice this for end of season….cj spiller fat kidd you were right…..

  275. RaiderRockstar Says:

    cj spiller fat kidd you were right

    ***

    that’s some good smoke, eh FK?

  276. r8eray Says:

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/tos?league_id=592300&password=7624216

    Invite to join the league!

  277. fat kidd Says:

    next years best running back in the draft Evan Royster, Penn State also wins heismann

  278. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Rick says:
    August 25, 2010 2:17 PM
    Bryant hasn’t played in over a year for those “character issues” yet the Dallas media already has him in Canton. I wonder if Mike Irvin introduced him to his coke dealer yet.

    ****************************

    LMFAO

  279. DKnight007 Says:

    Chaz “may” miss the season opener?

    Come on…enough of this silliness….he WILL miss the season opener!

    Sheesh…

  280. r8eray Says:

    Ok…its ready!

  281. RaiderRockstar Says:

    draft Evan Royster, Penn State !!!

  282. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Good noon, Kidd, RR, Richochet, NATION.

  283. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good afternoon Dirty, DK …

  284. DKnight007 Says:

    The Raiders need to draft a big, physical WR who has hands next year in Round 2, or draft a Center or the best RB!

  285. fat kidd Says:

    Winner of the 7th at Monmouth Park horse name funny=My wife knows evrything.

  286. DKnight007 Says:

    Goooooood afternoon…

    What do we need to see in this game against the Whiners?

    I say we need to see them establish the run from the outset and the short passing game, then use play action and to throw intermediate and deep.

    Mis direction plays need to be used as well to keep the aggressive Niner defense off balance….I would like to see some RB, WR screens to Bush, DMC, DHB, JLH and Ford!

  287. Ryan Says:

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/tos?league_id=592300&password=7624216

    Invite to join the league!

    I’m signed up. I won two years ago and got pasted last year. I think I’m losing my ffl touch.

  288. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    anybody see the Don Banks article at SI.com this morning? He is really hyped on the Raiders defense and thinks the O looks decent enough to secure some wins.

    Pretty encouraging, now we just need some WR’s and O-linemen in next year’s draft and this time will really be on the rise.

  289. KoolKell Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
    Goooooood afternoon…

    What do we need to see in this game against the Whiners?
    ———————————————
    We need to see McFadden get substantial work.

  290. KoolKell Says:

    We need to see McFadden & DHB get substantial work this weekend.

  291. r8eray Says:

    Got you Craig!

    ;)

  292. r8eray Says:

    KK?

  293. r8eray Says:

    RR?

  294. KoolKell Says:

    R8eray?

  295. r8eray Says:

    BBB?

  296. r8eray Says:

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/tos?league_id=592300&password=7624216

    C’mon and join the fun!

  297. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Media seems to really be talking the Raiders up. Hope they give Al the credit. They give it to anyone else, and Al will see what he can’t do to make CERTAIN everyone knows it’s his team.

  298. lefty12 Says:

    Wouldn’t it be wise to play a few games before proclaiming what we need in NEXT years draft?

  299. GaterRaider Says:

    Come on AL, send a pick to Jerry for crayton, we need him!

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wouldn’t it be wise to play a few games before proclaiming what we need in NEXT years draft?

    ***

    Lefty: wouldn’t it be wise to get some quality grunts up front to protect Al’s highly coveted skill position guys ???

  301. fat kidd Says:

    He slicks back his hair, wears a black jogging outfit and tells his team to “Just win, Baby.”

    And they do. From 1963 until 1992, the Raiders were 285-146-11, the best record in all of professional sports. They were filled with misfits and castoffs and a mystique worthy of the Phantom of the Opera. Al didn’t care what you thought of him, which made us care all the more. I’ve only had a couple of private moments with Darth Vader himself, but they were illuminating. One occurred in January of 2003, before the Raider playoff game against the Jets. I was in Oakland to do a story for CBS, and Al called me into his office. It was 9:30 in the morning, and we had just learned that a mutual friend, the great Boston Globe writer Will McDonough, had died of a sudden heart attack.

    Al cried before I did. I will never forget him pulling out pictures of Will from 25 years before, when both were young guns in the world of professional football. We talked about Will and the history of the AFL for more than an hour. Most people don’t know this, but Al Davis was born in Brockton, Massachusetts, not Brooklyn, although his accent and his attitude are pure New York

  302. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thomas Howard & Slade Norris to Dallas for Patrick Crayton

  303. r8eray Says:

    Vegas, check your email!

  304. BigTed707 Says:

    [Comment From BigtedBigted: ]
    Jerry, do you think H. Eugene is a lock for the final 53?

    jerrymac:
    No. Not with Stevie Brown playing the way he is.

    ______________________
    That’s right baby! Go Stevie B!

  305. RaiderRockstar Says:

    almost forgot about the live chat. thanks for the reminder Ted!

  306. r8eray Says:

    Stevie Brown was a steal!

  307. DKnight007 Says:

    Thomas Howard straight up for Patrick Crayton or Mario Manningham!

    Another WR the Raiders should try and trade for is James Jones from Green Bay!

  308. DKnight007 Says:

    Eugene is gonna get cut IMO.

  309. DKnight007 Says:

    Goethel, Norris, S Brown, R Brown, W McFadden, should all be kept and be studs special teams and great backups!

  310. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Roster Discussion time:
    First Players Cut…
    Allen Smith – hello practice squad
    Eric Butler – I didnt even know we had this guy
    Alex Parsons – hello practice squad
    Sam Williams – fingers crossed

  311. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Sup fellas…1 Nation, a million bleeders….

    I just posted a question to Jerry on the chat as Rolando McClain talking about the Coach Cable comment about McClain needing to pull the trigger more, and Jerry starts talking about dude blowing off fans for autographs. Hopefully, it was just a hot day and this isn’t a sign like his other standoffish ways that he is unhappy here

  312. JB Says:

    I’ve already written off Schilens. He’s just not someone you can count on – healthwise. Our season will be on ZMiller, DHB, Murphy & JLH’s shoulders. Ford & NMiller may also be able to contribute, given the opportunity. If DHB fails to thrive, I suspect he’ll be gone next year. I’m hoping he comes around and shows significant improvement. Only time will tell. ZMiller is solid. Murphy is a real fighter and has come a long ways. JLH is JLH – you just never know who’s going to show up week to week. All in all, we could be a lot worse off (i.e. JaLoser could still be here).

    This year’s success or failure will be totally dependent on our O-line performance – not our WR’s, not our QB, not our RB’s & not our defense. It will all be about our Offensive Big Uglies. As they go, so does our season. I’m sure Tom Cable realizes this too as I’m sure his ass is really on the line and this has to be his last hurrah. I’m sure that if he doesn’t go at least 8-8, he’s history. To that end, I hope he fixes the C, RG & RT deficiency problem sooner than later. He’s got personnel on the bench, in the form of Veldheer & Campbell, that can upgrade the aforementioned positions. So, as we all debate who should be where, let’s not lose sight of the fact of what’s really important to this year’s success – the O-line!

  313. Plunketthead Says:

    Al Davis was born in Brockton, Massachusetts

    Home of the hitman. I sure miss 70’s boxing
    What a decade of great fights

  314. Plunketthead Says:

    Opps sorry hearns was the hitman

  315. Plunketthead Says:

    What was Haglers nick?

  316. JB Says:

    Marvelous Marvin Hagler

  317. Plunketthead Says:

    What a bunch of great fights. We had a Mayweather vs Pacquiao once a year at least.

    And great nicknames like Pinko & Bonecrusher

  318. Plunketthead Says:

    Marvelous!!

    Thats it

  319. J Wiggle Says:

    [Comment From jimjim: ]
    What are thoughts on the the defense so far through preseason? Who has impressed you the most?
    Wednesday August 25, 2010 12:05 jim

    12:05 jerrymac: Wimbley in game situations _ really doesn’t flash like that in practice. Kelly, also in game situations _ pleasant surprise.

    ——————————————————-

    RRS,

    Thoughts?

  320. DKnight007 Says:

    Well, the Raiders better be ready to be tested in the trenches vs the Whiners.

    They will try and play smashmouth….so the Raiders need to stop the run, get to Smith and stay strong on coverage.

    On offense they need to get physical and run the ball and mix up the passing game to get DMC, and WR’s invoved. I would like to see mis direction plays in the beginning to keep the Whiner defense off balance and some QB rollout plays.

  321. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Higgins > Figurs & Miller

    -Jerry Mac

    ***

    Jwigg: thoughts ???

  322. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    sure hope Willis doesn’t pull a Favre on Campbell….OUCH!

  323. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nick Miller = practice squad

    -Jerry Mac

    ***

    Jwigg: thoughts ???

  324. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Higgins is so damn inconsistent. One week we can all be screaming “Johnnie Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” in excitment, and the next week, it’s like “Damn Higgs, WTF”….just never know with that guy

  325. J Wiggle Says:

    [Comment From Dale72Dale72: ]
    Any change Gradkowski gets cut?
    Wednesday August 25, 2010 12:44 Dale72

    12:45 jerrymac: If they are solidly behind Boller as backup, and can live with Brennan as No.3, then yes. It would save quite a bit of money. Don’t think they tendered Gradkowski at 1.8 mil to be No. 3.

    ——————————————————-

    JFB,

    Thoughts????

  326. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Whoever the hell QCRaider was in that chat is an idiot….

  327. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ37 > Routt

    -Jerry Mac

    ***

    Jwigg: thoughts ???

  328. J Wiggle Says:

    jerrymac: Considering his own coach has blamed most of the Raiders defensive woes on LB play last year

    ——————————————————

    RRS, Raider O, SnB …

    Thoughts ????

  329. J Wiggle Says:

    jerrymac: You know what, in the last few practices I was at, as well as the Chicago game, Routt played pretty well. And I’m not someone you’d consider one of his defenders.

    ——————————————————-

    Routt Hater ….

    Thoughts ????

  330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    jerrymac: Considering his own coach has blamed most of the Raiders defensive woes on LB play last year

    ***

    Cable = idiot

    Print That

  331. J Wiggle Says:

    Higgins > Figurs & Miller

    ————————————————–

    Agree

  332. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    If Routt can make plays like he did in that Bear’s game on a consistent basis, the organization can actually take a lot of pride in the fact that they made him believe in his ability, and he translated that into more hard work, and better execution. Before that game, I would have said CJ is better (and not proudly), but finally, Routt may be ready to step on the field more

  333. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NMF:

    Jerry Mac just compared DHB to Rickey Dudley!

    LOL. either he’s been reading this blog or you’re right on the money bro

  334. J Wiggle Says:

    Nick Miller = practice squad

    ——————————————————

    Jacoby Ford = we don’t need Nick Miller

  335. lefty12 Says:

    What we need to do in this weeks game is get out of it healthy.Don’t show them squat since we play them again in the regular season.Although if we do lose the doom and gloom crowd will be out in even fuller force.

    RRS-We don’t even know where people are going to line up this year,how can we discuss what we need?

  336. RaiderRockstar Says:

    J Wiggle Says: Kelly, Routt

    ***

    Who ???

  337. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Cheers to Veldheer and Campbell playing themselves into the starting lineup these next two weeks

  338. J Wiggle Says:

    CJ37 > Routt

    —————————————————-

    THIS year and last year, CJ37 was on the wrong end of WAY more big plays than Routt was.

    THIS YEAR Routt played better as a starter than CJ37 did. Routt hasn’t been beat ONE TIME in 2 games.

    Jerry can’t get em all right, lol.

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We don’t even know where people are going to line up this year,how can we discuss what we need?

    ***

    Lefty, sure we do!

    Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Carlisle-Walker (barring injury)

  340. J Wiggle Says:

    If Routt can make plays like he did in that Bear’s game on a consistent basis, the organization can actually take a lot of pride in the fact that they made him believe in his ability, and he translated that into more hard work, and better execution. Before that game, I would have said CJ is better (and not proudly), but finally, Routt may be ready to step on the field more

    ——————————————————-

    Agreed!

    Our CB situation has never been better with 3 legit CBs and 2 promising rookies.

  341. BigTed707 Says:

    # J Wiggle Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    jerrymac: You know what, in the last few practices I was at, as well as the Chicago game, Routt played pretty well. And I’m not someone you’d consider one of his defenders.

    ——————————————————-

    Routt Hater ….

    Thoughts ????
    ___________________
    Practice and 1 preseason game mean nothing compared to all the times he got burned in the regs. He is the JRuss of our defense, and needs to be removed like a tumor. Routt sucks, even Nnamdi says he doesn’t have it.

  342. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Agreed Wigg, but at the same time, CJ37 was on the wrong end of a lot of those plays due to the fact he simply can’t match up with #1 receivers who were placed there to be opposite of Nnamdi. Routt was on the wrong end of his bad plays to #3 and #4 receivers.

  343. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jerry can’t get em all right

    ***

    no kidding.

    last year he was hating on my boy Mike Huff and this year it’s JLH!

    talked up Eugene & NMiller instead in consecutive offseasons … thats alright though

    Jerry Mac is still pretty respectable

  344. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Practice and 1 preseason game mean nothing compared to all the times he got burned in the regs. He is the JRuss of our defense, and needs to be removed like a tumor. Routt sucks, even Nnamdi says he doesn’t have it.

    ***

    homerun!

  345. J Wiggle Says:

    jerrymac: You know what? The Raiders did give up big plays the last two years, but they also gave up a lot of little ones. The tried to make you think they were this stout defense if only for a big play or two, when i reality they’ve been gouged with 4s, 5s and 4s.

    ——————————————————-

    Glad we got new LBs

  346. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ37 was on the wrong end of a lot of those plays due to the fact he simply can’t match up with #1 receivers who were placed there to be opposite of Nnamdi. Routt was on the wrong end of his bad plays to #3 and #4 receivers.

    ***

    back to back homers!

    Ted & Bleeder :)

  347. J Wiggle Says:

    even Nnamdi says he doesn’t have it.

    ——————————————————-

    Propoganda.

    JRuss of the defense?

    So what does that make CJ who gave up WAY more tail than Routt ever did?

  348. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Those of you that go to games…what do you spend on average per game, gas, parking, ticket, concessions, the whole 9? Just curious.

  349. J Wiggle Says:

    Routt was on the wrong end of his bad plays to #3 and #4 receivers.

    ——————————————————

    You’re making stuff up. No wonder RRS is impressed. Nothing but propoganda.

    I can name 3 times Routt got beat last year, and they were all by #1’s.

    Vincent Jackson opening night

    Dwyane Bowe as my man RRS points out

    Santonio Holmes in the Pittsbugh game

    I’ll wait for you to tell me the #3 and #4 WRs Routt got beat by.

  350. J Wiggle Says:

    back to back homers!

    ——————————————————

    Called back on replay!

  351. DKnight007 Says:

    SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Cheers to Veldheer and Campbell playing themselves into the starting lineup these next two weeks

    ^^^^^^^^
    Sounds good….lets see what they got!

    I wanna see them bring it and be physical saturday night!

  352. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Hahaha, called back on replay…..I gotta give you props on throwing the challenge flag Wiggs! Lol…..And no, I haven’t jotted down the times on my scratch sheet, but believe I will this year, because though I can’t remember the opposition, I truly remember saying “Damn Stanford” more than a couple times.

    But don’t get me wrong. I’m not as harsh on him as others are. I’m hoping he does good, and he looked good versus Chicago, but Chicago’s offense looked terrible the whole game minus a few big plays and a couple trick reverses.

  353. J Wiggle Says:

    Comment From MarcoSac MarcoSac: ]
    What’s the status with JLH? Is he on the bubble, or do you think they’ll keep him?
    Wednesday August 25, 2010 1:04 MarcoSac

    1:05 jerrymac: Don’t think he’s a lock, but as of now, the fact that he’s got some experience places him ahead of Figurs and Miller, at least in my book.

    ——————————————————

    Like the way you edited this into Jerry says JLH > Figurs and Miller, lol.

    Podunkganda at it’s finest.

  354. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You’re making stuff up. No wonder RRS is impressed. Nothing but propoganda.

    ***

    :P

  355. Oakland_raiders Says:

    Seattle might be cutting Houshmanzadeh.

    Do you guys think the Raiders should pick him up? Maybe try and swing a trade for a late round pick.

  356. Drexl Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Those of you that go to games…what do you spend on average per game, gas, parking, ticket, concessions, the whole 9? Just curious.

    —————————————-
    $15 prerolled blunt
    $10 Sierra Nevada 6 pack(expensive dive market on my walk to BART.
    $8 Round trip BART
    $61 Ticket reduced to $51(season)
    $20 Beer+Dawg

    About $120

  357. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’ll take TJ Housh on a modest 2 year deal, but I’m not trading anything to get him … except maybe Thomas Howard, Marcel Reece or Nick Miller

  358. BigTed707 Says:

    Wiggle Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    even Nnamdi says he doesn’t have it.

    ——————————————————-

    Propoganda.

    JRuss of the defense?

    So what does that make CJ who gave up WAY more tail than Routt ever did?
    ___________________
    “I do get the sense he’s been playing well, but you know, Year 6, by now, you have to have it,” Asomugha told the newspaper. “If he doesn’t have it by now, it’s like, what’s going on?”
    _________________
    Check the film, Routt gets burned on huge plays, and draws out the linen. He has sucked for 5 years, why would he be better in his 6th?

  359. J Wiggle Says:

    I truly remember saying “Damn Stanford” more than a couple times.

    —————————————————–

    You and me both.

    Just saying I remember saying a lot worse more often against CJ. CJ was TERRIBLE last year and probably just sticks out to me because he started. Of course that gave him more opportunities to get burnt than Routt.

    Let’s just hope they both step their games up from last year.

  360. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ was TERRIBLE last year

    ***

    False

  361. J Wiggle Says:

    Seattle might be cutting Houshmanzadeh.

    ——————————————————

    He’s a huge Raiders fan. I’d take him over Watkins Miller and Figurs.

    Problem is, I don’t think he comes here to be inactive as the 6th WR each week.

    DHB, Murphy, JLH, and Ford are playing folks. Time to stop fighting it!

  362. DKnight007 Says:

    Oakland_raiders Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    Seattle might be cutting Houshmanzadeh.

    Do you guys think the Raiders should pick him up? Maybe try and swing a trade for a late round pick.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I would give up a 5th rounder for TJ Hooker, TJ Whos ur daddy, TJ whos ur mama!

  363. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d take him over Watkins, Miller and Figurs

    ***

    wow. thats big of you! LOL

    TJ Housh would probably steal receptions from Higgins, Ford & Murphy starting opposite Decoy Heyward-Bey

  364. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Let’s just hope they both step their games up from last year.

    ——————————-

    cheers to that. I give CJ a little slack for the fact that when an opposing offense has to throw, he’s definitely going to see the ball coming his way, but regardless, he has to make plays. The thing again about Routt is he’s more than a step off when he gets beat. And the crazy thing about CJ is he’s practically there when he gets beat, but just doesn’t have the awareness and quick instinct to make the play. Like that catch Austin had on him in the Cowboy game – I mean, you’re face guarding the receiver on a mid/deep out, and you’re with him step for step, and then the receiver stops and jumps, and you overrun the route to the sideline and you were there to make the play. WTF?

  365. J Wiggle Says:

    Ted,

    Still waiting for you to show us where Nnamdi say Routt doesn’t have it.

    CLEARLY the quote you provided doesn’t say that.

    Just like I never said Routt doesn’t get burnt. Didn’t I list off the top of my head 3 instances where he got burnt?

    Question was to you, that you must have missed, since CJ got burnt way more than Routt, what does that make him in terms of your JRuss comparison?

  366. Raider O Says:

    Podunkian Monkey,

    -A DB was drafted in the 1st RD (7th).
    -In 4 seasons he has 4 INTS.
    -The HC started a Eugene over him in 08.
    -He was on the trade block!
    -Tackling is not his strength, which is killing us since he plays S and not CB!!

    Those are called FACTS you classless monkey!

  367. J Wiggle Says:

    wow. thats big of you! LOL

    ——————————————————

    Why is that big of me?

    Still think Nick Miller is talented. Just don’t think we need him if Ford and JLH are on the squad. Housyourdaddy is a big possesion WR unlike Miller and Figurs, and simply better than Watkins.

  368. RaiderRockstar Says:

    spin it DJ Wiggle!

  369. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I never said the 3 tech doesn’t get doubled bro.

  370. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Monkey O:

    Huff is a beast!

    Print That

    Huff = 2011 Pro Bowler

  371. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I never said the 3 tech doesn’t get doubled bro.

    ***

    Raider Osampanzee: tell the truth or Allah be angry!

  372. Raider O Says:

    Great argument podunkian monkey.

    Was he a beast who can’t tackle and has 4 INTs in 4 Seasons!!
    He has 1 INT in 3 years!!!

    If he continues to play S, He is/ will be a Bust!!!!!

  373. Raider O Says:

    Great argument podunkian monkey.

    He is a beast who can’t tackle and has 4 INTs in 4 Seasons!!
    He has 1 INT in 3 years!!!

    If he continues to play S, He is/ will be a Bust!!!!!

  374. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chimp O watching Huff take a Vince Young interception back for a TD in Week 1

    http://proselyytti.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/embarrassed-chimpanzee.jpg?w=280&h=258

  375. Raider O Says:

    Podunkian Scott,

    I don’t lie like some classless monkey!!

  376. J Wiggle Says:

    I never said the 3 tech doesn’t get doubled bro.

    ***

    Raider Osampanzee: tell the truth or Allah be angry!

    —————————————————–

    LOL, exactly!

    O, you spent a whole posting session talking about how TK couldn’t have been doubled if Warren was. And don’t try and say you meant both of them at the same time, lol.

    The day startef off with me constantly posting the stuff about despite TK being doubled he was the 4th most productive …

    legalize it!

  377. Nnamdi21 Says:

    312. McClain has a full plate. Lot of weight on his shoulders and an ill family member.

  378. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The day started off with me constantly posting the stuff about despite TK being doubled he was the 4th most productive …

    ***

    don’t remind us!

    :x

  379. Raider O Says:

    J,

    Show me where us said the 3 tech doesn’t get doubled!

    You said Warren & TK were doubled!! lol

  380. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    Monkey O:

    Huff is a beast!

    Print That

    Huff = 2011 Pro Bowler

    ==================

    Huff has struggled but seemed to make a break thru last year before injuries slowed him.
    I realize its pre season but he looked like dodged Matt Forte on that 89 yd run. Either that, he took a bad angle. Both unacceptable.

    He and Routt need to make it happen this year.

    Maybe just maybe we can generate a pass rush and help them out.

  381. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “The Raiders may have two of its offensive weapons back on line for Saturdays match up with San Francisco, but whether they will be effective lies somewhere between the lines…”

    Center of Controversy

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season

  382. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I never lied about anything. My name, background, or my stupid opinions/ posts including “F Joseph is the next Ray Lewis”, and the Podunkian Monkey keeps reminding me if it.

  383. BigTed707 Says:

    Question was to you, that you must have missed, since CJ got burnt way more than Routt, what does that make him in terms of your JRuss comparison?
    _______________________________
    2009 –

    6 years in J,
    It’s not like he’s going into his second year.
    6 years in, by now you have to have it. as Nnamdi would say.

    The fact that you listed 3 instances off the top of your head proves that he gets burned regularly. He hasn’t stepped up to improve. CJ37 on the other hand has demonstrated that he can make plays and INTs.

    The Mods don’t like it when I post YouTube links here, otherwise I’d provide examples. They are easy to find, just look at our opponents highlights for that week, and there is #26, out of position. To find examples of CJ37 kicking ass, just type in his name.

    Like JRuss, Routt is a “talented athlete” who is not mentally prepared in games, and is an overpaid cancer to the team.

    -To be fair to Routt, he seems to get good pressure on QBs when they send him on the nickle blitz.

  384. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I remember what I said exactly.
    I said: if TK & Warren are both doubled according to you, then that leaves 1 OL to block 2 DEs. Correct?

  385. BigTed707 Says:

    sorry, I don’t know what that 2009 is doing in my last post

  386. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I remember what I said exactly.
    I said: if TK & Warren are both doubled according to you, then that leaves 1 OL to block 2 DEs. Correct?

    ***

    Raider mOpe: DJ Wiggle is getting ready to spin it!

  387. Raider O Says:

    J,

    Feel free to look it up and re-post it.

    Legalize it!!!

  388. DKnight007 Says:

    Yeah Cable, Michalzchik, and Jackson need to use this game against the Whiners as a heavy evaluating tool to see what Veldheer and Campbell can do in the starting lineup with the 1’s.

    The Whiners are starting their struggling rookies Davis and Iupati….and I think the Raiders need plug their two O-Line rookies in there and see what they can bring to the table.

  389. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Drexl Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Those of you that go to games…what do you spend on average per game, gas, parking, ticket, concessions, the whole 9? Just curious.

    —————————————-
    $15 prerolled blunt
    $10 Sierra Nevada 6 pack(expensive dive market on my walk to BART.
    $8 Round trip BART
    $61 Ticket reduced to $51(season)
    $20 Beer+Dawg

    About $120

    ………..

    That’s not bad. What about those who don’t live within walking distance of BART, and have seats where you can actually see the colors of the uniforms on the field?

  390. Raider O Says:

    Podunkian Monkey,

    LOL

    You are on thin ice!

  391. Raider O Says:

    LMAO at $15 prerolled blunt!!

  392. Nnamdi21 Says:

    $15?!!!

  393. Plunketthead Says:

    Nnamdi

    I think that is a very good site and it has fantastic photos. I could care less that you post links here.
    I am just curious.
    Is that your site, a friends or just something you really like?

  394. fat kidd Says:

    Pito

  395. Raider O Says:

    Blunt vending machines:
    $5 J
    $10 J
    $10 blunt
    $15 blunt
    $20 blunt

  396. Plunketthead Says:

    Big Ted post the links with a space in them.
    The “reader” will not notice

  397. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O:

    Labor day is coming!

    the picnic will be held in Mexico, where your job went …

  398. Plunketthead Says:

    DK said

    Yeah Cable, Michalzchik, and Jackson need to use this game against the Whiners as a heavy evaluating tool to see what Veldheer and Campbell can do in the starting lineup with the 1’s.

    I think its more that they get some playing time and experiance in case someone gets injured

  399. BigTed707 Says:

    J – Cheers and thanks for the exchange. I am rooting for CJ to be the starter, but I think allowing Aso to cover the #1s would be the best thing for our Def. I’m OK with CJ in the nickel, but, as you say, Routt should not be covering #1s.

    Go Raiders, 1-0!

  400. Plunketthead Says:

    Pito means………?

  401. Drexl Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    # Drexl Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Those of you that go to games…what do you spend on average per game, gas, parking, ticket, concessions, the whole 9? Just curious.

    —————————————-
    $15 prerolled blunt
    $10 Sierra Nevada 6 pack(expensive dive market on my walk to BART.
    $8 Round trip BART
    $61 Ticket reduced to $51(season)
    $20 Beer+Dawg

    About $120

    ………..

    That’s not bad. What about those who don’t live within walking distance of BART, and have seats where you can actually see the colors of the uniforms on the field?
    —————————
    section 110, row 30ish. The Houston game last year, not a drop of rain hit my wife and I, seats just high enough to be under the 210 over hang.
    The seats are just to the left of the black hole, insight of the shenanigans, far enough away to not get tazed.
    South endzone can be a bit difficult to see the line play, etc. Binoculars work great though.
    I love my seats.

  402. KoolKell Says:

    My Barber today predicted 11-12 wins for the Raiders. I lmao’d

  403. inonewordraider Says:

    What happened to Housh? Helluva possesion receiver last I saw…

  404. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My Barber today predicted 11-12 wins for the Raiders

    ***

    is your barber J Wiggle?

  405. fat kidd Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Those of you that go to games…what do you spend on average per game, gas, parking, ticket, concessions, the whole 9? Just curious.

    —————————————-
    $400.00 limo service
    $1000.00 dom periogn $280.00 caspian caviar
    $147.00 Foie Gras
    $20 Beer+Dawg
    VIP SEATING =FREE
    About $1847.00

  406. Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:

    Coochmanzadeh is still stuck in Seattle.

  407. Raider O Says:

    Podunkian Monkey,

    I own a business. Worry about your job before they find someone who doesn’t blog all day and acts like he is working. What kind of work do you do again?
    You must do Admin work. Male sec?!

  408. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider mOpe:

    it was a joke, like your take on Huff …

    get over it!

  409. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # fat kidd Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    $400.00 limo service
    $1000.00 dom periogn $280.00 caspian caviar
    $147.00 Foie Gras
    $20 Beer+Dawg
    VIP SEATING =FREE
    About $1847.00

    ………

    I meant Raider games. Not Niners.

  410. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What business do you own, Raider O?

  411. Plunketthead Says:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dnwb_hyOhyc/SorA6Y7dR5I/AAAAAAAAAfY/TAF2tYwbaJ4/s400/cable.jpg

  412. fat kidd Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    What business do you own, Raider O?

    …………..PORTABLE TOILET VACUUMING!!!

  413. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I just don’t understand all of these people on here who say they own businesses. Why would they tell us this?

  414. Oakland_raiders Says:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/official-sleeper-pick-NFL-2010-season-082410

  415. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I was playing bro. I know you are an accountant.

    Get over it!!!

  416. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    My Barber today predicted 11-12 wins for the Raiders. I lmao’d

    +++++++++++++++=

    Whats your prediction???

  417. Lakota Says:

    Business is booooming!

  418. hendu Says:

    ANY

  419. fat kidd Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    My Barber today predicted 11-12 wins for the Raiders. I lmao’d

    +++++++++++++++=

    RONDE OR TIKI

  420. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    I wholesale cars for dealers.
    I’m not rich, but the flexible schd allows me to continue my education.

  421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  422. Thec07 Says:

    LTR

  423. fat kidd Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    RMR,

    I wholesale cars for dealers.
    I’m not rich, but the flexible schd allows me to continue my education.

    ……………YOU SHOULD TAKE A COURSE ON FOOTBALL!!!!

  424. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    How’d you get into that business, O?

  425. hendu Says:

    Wont let me post this, believe I sent it to D/lAkota already, please check out spp.gov, may have changed some,but check it out

  426. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Fat Kidd, take it easy.

  427. Raider O Says:

    Later Podunkian.

  428. KoolKell Says:

    Thec07

    I will say 8 wins, until I see some reg season action.

    Yeah, they look good the 2 pre-season games. But, that’s pre-season.

  429. hendu Says:

    Forgot, check out the security link,as well as the rest! Raiders!!!!!!!

  430. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    You can get a license, or just pay $70+ and go to police auctions (repos).

  431. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Is it a crowded business, O? Just that easy? Get a license, you’re in, earning enough to live on?

  432. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    Thec07

    I will say 8 wins, until I see some reg season action.

    Yeah, they look good the 2 pre-season games. But, that’s pre-season.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    thanks for the reply…

    I will say 10, and AFC West title…

  433. Thec07 Says:

    Oakland_raiders Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    ++++++++++++++=

    Thanks for the post, good read….

  434. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    thanks for the reply…

    I will say 10, and AFC West title…

    ………….

    That’s what Gruden’s last team here put up, Thec. You’re saying this team’s as good as the ‘01 Raiders?

  435. Raider O Says:

    RMR,

    Very Easy to get in, but you need to have buyers (dealers to but cars, or sell them on your own to people), and you have to know how to buy cars. If you over pay, then you can’t make a profit.
    I can help you start one, if you are interested.
    People need cheap cars!

  436. fat kidd Says:

    Exactly every 10 years since 1970 the raiders win the afc championship game next time due 2010.

  437. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raider O, where did you learn to do those things? Who schooled you in that biz?

  438. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # fat kidd Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Exactly every 10 years since 1970 the raiders win the afc championship game next time due 2010.

    …………….

    I think you might have to consider that another one of those Raider traditions that went into the toilet.

  439. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    thanks for the reply…

    I will say 10, and AFC West title…

    ………….

    That’s what Gruden’s last team here put up, Thec. You’re saying this team’s as good as the ‘01 Raiders?

    ++++++++++++++++

    I thought I was clear. IMO, We will win 10 games, and win the west….

  440. fat kidd Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    RMR,

    Very Easy to get in, but you need to have buyers (dealers to but cars, or sell them on your own to people), and you have to know how to buy cars. If you over pay, then you can’t make a profit.
    I can help you start one, if you are interested.
    People need cheap cars!

    ……………that might not be a good business over the next ten years california is not business freindly there is going to be a mass exodus of business and people too utah. its already started.

  441. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec, I have your answer loud and clear. I’m just questioning the logic behind it. Do you realize that at several points throughout the ‘01 season, many in the press were calling the Raiders the best team in football? Do you think we could be called the best team in football right now?

  442. fat kidd Says:

    i live in palm springs where there are 11 estates 9 are for sale.all are relocating too utah with hewlett packard and ebay etc..

  443. Raider O Says:

    RMR,
    I started when I was 18, my father had cancer (he couldn’t work), I had a GF who didn’t work, so I needed a good job that paid more than MCD & a liquor store, so I started selling cars for a small mitsubishi dealer who helped me learn the bus.

  444. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Don’t let the door hit them on the way out, Fat Kidd. California’s agriculture could keep the state solvent by itself. Only problem is that it’s controlled by a few wealthy people. We drive them out, and get the right people in government to control the agriculture and distribute the profits fairly amongst the citizens, we don’t need any of those businesses that are leaving California. We’d be able to start new ones in their respective industries. F*** them. Anybody threatening to leave California…GO! Please.

  445. Raider O Says:

    Fat Kidd,

    -Gas prices go up, people buy small cheap cars.
    -econmy is suffering, people save and buy cheap cars.
    -economy is doing great, then people buy cheap cars for their kids.

    It’s a great business, and I’m welling to help who ever is interested start one.

  446. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Anyone your age would have loved selling cars over working at McDonald’s, Raider O. I know I would have. I just couldn’t get hired by a car lot at that young an age. How’d you do it?

  447. fat kidd Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Fat Kidd,

    -Gas prices go up, people buy small cheap cars.
    -econmy is suffering, people save and buy cheap cars.
    -economy is doing great, then people buy cheap cars for their kids.

    It’s a great business, and I’m welling to help who ever is interested start one.

    gas prices go up people buy chevy volt electric cars i just ordered one there only $43,000

  448. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow. Nobody took the bait on my s0cializt agriculture idea? What’s happening to you guys? Come on, O. Let me see your O face. O, O, O, O!!!!

  449. fat kidd Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Fat Kidd,

    -Gas prices go up, people buy small cheap cars.
    -econmy is suffering, people save and buy cheap cars.
    -economy is doing great, then people buy cheap cars for their kids.

    …………………………problem there is there are very few cheap people in califonia!!!

  450. fat kidd Says:

    and jamarcus russell just took 36 million california dollars too louisiana.

  451. fat kidd Says:

    Aug. 25) — A 50-year-old Sri Lankan woman who worked as a maid for a large family in Saudi Arabia for five months was allegedly tortured by some of the family members hammering nails into her body, doctors said.

    The woman, who flew back to Colombo, Sri Lanka, from Riyadh on Saturday night, was brought to the hospital by her concerned children Monday. X-rays showed there were 23 nails embedded in her body.

    “Some of the nails were 2 inches long,” Dr. Prabath Gajadeera of Kamburupitiya Base Hospital told AOL News today. “Most of the nails were embedded in her arms and legs. She didn’t even realize how many were in there.”

  452. edward teach Says:

    410.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    # fat kidd Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    $400.00 limo service
    $1000.00 dom periogn $280.00 caspian caviar
    $147.00 Foie Gras
    $20 Beer+Dawg
    VIP SEATING =FREE
    About $1847.00

    ………

    I meant Raider games. Not Niners.
    *************************************

    LMFAO

  453. fat kidd Says:

    edward teach Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    410.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    # fat kidd Says:
    August 25th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    $400.00 limo service
    $1000.00 dom periogn $280.00 caspian caviar
    $147.00 Foie Gras
    $20 Beer+Dawg
    VIP SEATING =FREE
    About $1847.00

    ………

    I meant Raider games. Not Niners.
    *************************************
    the only reason i would go to that side of the bay bridge is if nancy pelosi wanted me too service her.

  454. fat kidd Says:

    new post

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