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Veldheer on the fast track

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Tom Cable is a lot like Bill Callahan when it comes to versatility on the offensive line.

They may not teach the same schemes, but both are of the opinion that having linemen who can switch positions in an instant not only stimulates their ability to learn, but helps the team in the long run.

It’s with that in mind that Jared Veldheer can put himself in position to be the tallest center (6-foot-8) to start an NFL game. A week after getting some snaps at left tackle, against Julius Peppers, no less, Veldheer will start against the 49ers Saturday in place of Samson Satele.

Cable told reporters Wednedsay Satele was questionable with an ankle injury, but he almost certainly won’t play. And it doesn’t really make a lot of sense to start veteran Chris Morris, when Cable can get an idea of whether it’s feasible to make Veldheer a starter as a rookie third-round draft pick out of Hillsdale.

“It’s two different worlds,” Veldheer said in a post-practice interview. “You just have to transition yourself, outside to inside. This week I’ve been able to get back into that inside world more. It will be fun on Saturday.”

The “different worlds” could also apply from Veldheer’s jump from small college star to NFL rookie, but Cable hasn’t seen him back down yet.

“The first thing you look for in a small school guy is, `Is he kind of fearful of competition?,’ ” Cable said. “That’s never once been the case on any day throughout camp.”

Cable said Veldheer has handled the mental challenges of the tackle-to-center switch “very well” and has had no setbacks.

More news, notes and quotes (as relayed by beat writer Steve Corkran):

– For anyone wondering whether perennial Pro Bowl center Kevin Mawae could be in the Raiders’ plans, Cable said, “We’ve never had any discussions about that.”

– Cable hinted the Raiders would game plan more to put players in situations to make roster decisions easier, rather than devise a plan to beat the 49ers. The third regular season game typically is the one that’s a dress rehearsal for the opener. The fact that the two teams play in the regular season is also a factor.

“Because we’re playing them later we probably won’t show everything we normally would,” Cable said.

– Is there a role for linebacker Thomas Howard, or will the Raiders be looking to get something for him at the final cutdown day?

Cable, asked about Howard’s standing, said, “I think we’ll know more after we get through this one. I’m not trying to avoid the question. I just think that the way this game is set up and some of the things that well be doing defensively we’ll have a chance to see where he is at.”

Like, perhaps, put hoping Howard has a big enough game so that he can at least bring back a draft choice.

– Cable on whether Chaz Schilens could be ready for the opener: “I don’t know that yet. They’re telling us we can probably answer that question the first of next week.”

– Bruce Gradkowski, when asked about the young receiving corps, did the only sensible thing _ give them a public vote of confidence.

“I’m confident in all our receivers,” Gradkowski said. “They do a great job. I don’t know how many we’ll keep, but it’s always tough. . . . I’m proud o fthose guys and we’ve just got to keep going and finish this out right.”

– Hue Jackson, talking to the media? He jokingly took the podium today before walking away. Unless they’re serving him up Thursday as camp breaks, he’ll probably talk to the media for the first time in Alameda. The Raiders have taken advantage of vague league guidelines in the preseason which request reasonable access by not making him available at all. Once the regular season begins, they’re required to make Jackson available to the media on a regular basis or be subject to a fine.

– The Raiders hold their final practice of the Napa training camp Thursday at 8:30 a.m. and then get out of town. The Raider Nation Celebration will be from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. at Frank Ogawa Plaza in downtown Oakland.

– According to my transcript, the first words out of Cable’s mouth were, “Where is McDonald? He’s just taking time off. He’s got David White disease.”

I don’t know about the David White thing, but I have felt “fatigued” lately.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    Room for 1 more

    ***

    Jwigg: nice 53

    I’d say Loper or Bennett

    Cable obviously isn’t impressed with Morris any longer

  • RaiderRockstar

    First cut down is to Max of 75

    ***

    thanks BCZ!

    since Frye & Holland are on IR I guess we have to trim 5 players after the SF game

    My guess?

    Hubbard, Daniels, Nixon, Heard, 1 OL (Smith, Parsons or Rodd)

  • RaiderRockstar

    (fart)

  • The Big Banana

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    (fart)

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    Really? I come in here, jump to the bottom, and this is the first message I read. Probably not a good sign….lol

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    Nice roster Jwiggle, but you forgot our best offensive player: The Truth, we might be kind of lost without him.

    I am thinking that they will pick-up a veteran FB after all the cuts to pair with Reece.

  • CJ Legend 34

    Weldheer is going to have hhis @$$ handed to him after this game. This is truly a rookie experiment.

  • J Wiggle

    but you forgot our best offensive player:

    ——————————————————

    Who ????

  • CJ Legend 34

    (Burp)

    LMBO!!!
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    The Big Banana Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:07 am
    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    (fart)

    ——————————————————

    Really? I come in here, jump to the bottom, and this is the first message I read. Probably not a good sign….lol

  • Thec07

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:10 am
    Weldheer is going to have hhis @$$ handed to him after this game. This is truly a rookie experiment.

    ++++++++++++=

    we shall see wont we….

  • J Wiggle

    F orgiveness
    A lways
    R eplenishes
    T he
    S oul

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    QB-Campbell, Grads, Boller
    WR-Schilens, Murphy, DHB, JLH, Ford, Watkins
    TE-Miller, Meyers
    HB-Bush, McFadden, Cartwright, Bennett
    FB-Reece, (veteran after the cuts)
    T-Henderson, Walker, Pears, Veldheer
    G-Gallery, Barnes, Carlisle, Campbell
    C-Satele, Morris

    LB-McClain,Brown,Goethel,Wimbley,Scott,Howard,Groves
    DT-Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Henderson
    DE-Houston, Shaugnessy, J-Rich
    S-Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Brown
    CB-NA, CJ, Routt, McFadden, Ware

    ST-Lechler, J-Kow, Condo

  • J Wiggle

    Just don’t understand why some people seem to be rooting against Veldheer.

  • The Big Banana

    J Wiggle – no tight ends? No wonder you have room for one more even though you have 7 LBs and 5 CBs…lol

  • J Wiggle

    Ahhh, the TEs

  • RaiderRockstar

    good morning Banana!

    CJ “Burp” = nice one bro :)

  • J Wiggle

    To make room for TEs Miller, Meyers and Stewart ..

    Cooper and Williams get cut!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Just don’t understand why some people seem to be rooting against Veldheer.

    ***

    me neither

    Jared the Giant will silence the haters. I remember against Chicago, V tossed Peppers around like a rag doll on one play

  • The Big Banana

    BART Bridge Blues – I agree man. I just get this feeling we should carry 4 RBs this year. DMC is bound to get hurt, which would put us 1 injury to Michael Bush away from being in trouble. Especially if Bennett is a better runner than Cartwright and we keep Cartwright over Bennett because of his ST skills.

  • The Big Banana

    # J Wiggle Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    To make room for TEs Miller, Meyers and Stewart ..

    Cooper and Williams get cut!

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    There ya go! Get rid of Williams!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    To make room for TEs Miller, Meyers and Stewart ..

    Cooper and Williams get cut!

    ***

    Stewart vs Williams = tough call

  • Thec07

    TE spot, need to keep 3 as insurance… Williams is a$$ out…

  • bcz24

    We should cut all of our FB’s and sign whichever one the jets cut.

  • Thec07

    bcz24 Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:26 am
    We should cut all of our FB’s and sign whichever one the jets cut.
    +++++++++++++==

    HAAHAHHAHAHHAHA….

  • RaiderRockstar

    Williams & Stewart are in a similar situation

    both good on ST. both good locker room guys

    neither contributes much on offense/defense

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    yeah, I am glad somebody else is seeing this problem in our RB unit. McFadden can’t run between the tackles, he is more of our x-factor guy. So we have just Bush as our primary running back, and he will need to be spelled due to injury or “fatigue” at several points during a 16-game season. Just having Rock Cartwright behind him isn’t enough. Our offense will live or die on the running game this season, we need to have fresh legs.

  • The Big Banana

    Speculation is that Jason Davis will be the FB the Jets will cut.

  • RaiderRockstar

    McFadden can’t run between the tackles

    ***

    find a quote from Al Davis or ANY Raider coach that has EVER said that …

    the Raiders can’t run up the gut because they’ve had guys like Satele & Morris at Center since DMAC was drafted. Guys like Lawton & Reece at FB. Guys like Russell & Gradkowski at QB. 8 man fronts, zero threats at WR. predictable offensive gameplans, etc

    biggest knocks on DMAC are durability & fumblitis. they’ve been working on ball security this offseason and McFadden has been held out of practice or preseason games every time he coughs or sneezes by Cable as a “precaution”

  • Ryan

    Mike and Mike’s radio show this morning picked the Oakland Raiders to be a suprise playoff team!

    The Houston Texans need LBs bad. I wonder if they are talking to the Raiders about Howard.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jason Davis will be the FB the Jets will cut.

    ***

    been down that road before. no thanks!

  • Ryan

    The Raiders are treating DMAC like San Diego treated LT. Hear is hoping DMAC becomes an LT.

  • bcz24

    Im hoping DMAC becomes a good enough RB to carry LT’s jockstrap!

  • RaiderRockstar

    truth be told, the Raiders REALLY should have signed Thomas Jones …

    I don’t think they wanted anybody to compete with the McBush show though.

    Jones would run for 1500 yards and the other guys would combine for 500.

  • The Big Banana

    RR – Run DMC gets tripped up by the hash marks, let alone those big fellas in the middle. They so much as breath on him and he goes down. Davis and the coaches would never admit or announce something like that even if they wholeheartedly agreed with the assessment.

    That being said, the durability issue alone is enough to warrant a 4th RB.

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Houston Texans need LBs bad. I wonder if they are talking to the Raiders about Howard.

    ***

    Thomas Howard & Slade Norris for WR Jacoby Jones?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Run DMC gets tripped up by the hash marks, let alone those big fellas in the middle. They so much as breath on him and he goes down

    ***

    Propaganda

  • The Big Banana

    # bcz24 Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Im hoping DMAC becomes a good enough RB to carry LT’s jockstrap!

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    I hear you there!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    LMAO, Banana.

    DMAC = menace to victory.

  • The Big Banana

    RR – lol. you know it’s true, don’t deny it bro!

  • RaiderRockstar

    If i’m the Raiders I say this …

    Todd Watkins
    Yamon Figurs
    Nick Miller
    Shaun Bodiford

    Thomas Howard
    Quinton Groves
    Slade Norris
    Sam Williams

    ***

    Pick 2 or 3 and give us WR Jacoby Jones

  • The Big Banana

    BSJ – lol..you know it! He’s one more injury ridden season away from me declaring him a waste of a roster space.

  • Raider Dell

    Let me drop in this discussion on the OL.

    Typically the game day lineup will be 8 lineman, on the 46 game day roster.

    With that in mind, the remaining three lineman must be able to swing, to different positions on the line, due to a injury.

    Let’s look at the remaining players.

    As much as you all believe Morris is gone, he has so much versatility, that he would be hard to cut. Morris can play, LG, RG, C, and a little unknown fact is, he is our back-up LS and short snap, if Condo ever got injured.
    That may not be as important , because Zach Miller has been practicing LS, and short snap also. Do you risk Zach Miller getting hurt on ST.

    Campbell, is working at RG. I don’t see the Raider organization messing with him. Campbell has to get used to playing inside and he is very raw. Campbell will make the 53 team roster, but may be off the game day suited 46. Haven’t seen Campbell on special teams either.

    Barnes, can play LT, RT, and maybe some guard, I just don’t think he likes to be inside. Barnes can swing to replace a injured LT, RT and has special teams value also.

    Veldheer, can play LT and were seeing him play center. Looks like to me the Raider organization has planned for him to be the back up at center. Veldheer is athletic and strong enough to play against the NT, but can he play low and make all the protection calls for the OL. This weekend will be a big test for Veldheer.

    Pears, has mobility and is a ZBS lineman, he can play both the LT, RT and in a pinch last year a servicable tight end, if they want a exta blocker, or fills in for an injury. Pears also played last year on special teams.

    The players who start can also play multiple positions, as noted Walker, RT, LG. Gallery LG, LT, Satele, C and RG, and Carlisle and Henderson are the two that, I haven’t seen in any other position.

    So the final roster of players, have to be able to, play multiple positions and a big extra plus is, can they be on some special teams.

  • niceguymoe

    We already have enough “Jacoby Jones” types.
    We need someone reliable.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Dell: are you ready for draft weekend?

    saw some msg’s about individual defensive players. I hope you don’t do that

    I don’t want to waste all Sunday afternoon on FF

    hope the guys who won’t be there Pre Rank thier players and go to auto draft so we don’t have to wait on them each round

  • RaiderRockstar

    8 OL active on gameday

    Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle, Walker, Campbell, Veldheer, Barnes/Pears

  • http://atm Raider O

    I like TH, and I wouldn’t trade him. I also think he us me of the best cover LBs in the league.

    Good morning nation.

  • Raider Dell

    RRS

    Draft will stay as scheduled. No defensive players.
    The draft will go fast. Most of the guys who are in the league have ranked by position their players and will be fast. The draft sems to slow down for the remaining few bench players, which usually takes a lil more time.

    I was in 5 last year and the longest was one hour twenty minutes.

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg r8eray

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I was in 5 last year and the longest was one hour twenty minutes.

    ***

    awesome, because i’m thinking the little pregnant mama wants to paint the baby room this weekend

    I’m in 3 leagues and have a draft scheduled for this Saturday & Sunday. I was worried I wouldn’t get stuff done that I need to :)

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    My opinion of the Oline is that it sucks thanks to Cable. I wouldn’t blame the players as much as the coach who has confused the hell out of them for the better part of the last 4 years…

  • RaiderRockstar

    good morning O, ray, moe …