What we learned from training camp
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Things we learned from Camp 2010 at the Napa Marriott:
– The Raiders go into the season with zero doubt as to their starting quarterback. Jason Campbell is it, as proclaimed by Tom Cable the day camp opened.
Of course, JaMarcus Russell was the anointed starter last year, but every day was a referendum on his performance and work ethic.
– The offense belongs to Hue Jackson. He was finally allowed to talk to the media Thursday, but what he did on the field spoke far more than what he said in a 13-plus minute interview.
Jackson brought more electricity and made practice more interesting than any Raider coach since Jon Gruden.
– Distractions, by Raiders standards, are at the lowest rate in memory.
No fisticuffs between assistants or allegations of domestic assault. No disgruntled players, unless you count a concussed Luke Lawton, wondering why he didn’t get more snaps following a head injury. Exclusive franchise player Richard Seymour was the first man off the bus and even if that was a staged bit of symbolism, very little that went on in Napa suggested this was a team on the verge of imploding.
– Either the “competition” suggested by the coaches was a sham, or this group was extraordinary at determining its best players.
The depth chart looks the same now as it did in OTAs and minicamps, with injuries being the only wild card.
– Rolando McClain and Lamarr Houston had better be good right away.
They were starters from the moment they arrived, and both looked to be upgrades, although you never really know until real games begin.
– Camp Cable was not much different than Camp Kiffin, Camp Shell, Camp Callahan, Camp Gruden or any other camp in terms of violence at the line of scrimmage.
There was a live session of a dozen or so plays, and a goal line sequence, but as long as Al Davis owns the Raiders don’t expect the head coach to risk losing talent before a regular season game is played.
– Chaz Schilens simply cannot be relied upon as a big part of the offense based on his propensity for injury. Two foot surgeries, now an arthroscopic knee procedure. The Raiders are holding out hope he’ll be ready for Week 1, but that’s not the way to bet.
– Louis Murphy is far and away the Raiders’ best and most dangerous receiver _ and he still drops too many passes for a real level of comfort.
– Hope Zach Miller is in the best shape of his life. He’ll take more blows than Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent. It took Campbell about five seconds to discover Miller is his best option.
– Nnamdi Asomugha is the new Tim Brown in terms of speaking his mind and not concerning himself with what the owner thinks. He’s all Raider, and likes what he sees, but Asomugha makes so much money and has such status he can also say what he thinks and not worry about the ramifications.
– McClain is his own man. He goes his own way and seems to have a serene confidence about himself, while not having much interest in talking to reporters (no problem) or even signing autographs for fans who cheer his name (not a problem either, but not cool).
– Cable may have distanced himself from the direction of the offense, but he can’t help himself when he sees issues on the offensive line. When he does, Jim Michalczik steps aside.
– Tommy Kelly jumps offsides too often and it remains to be seen if he’s a nose tackle, but darned if he didn’t come into camp in the best shape of his life with what seems to be a sincere belief that he’s got to do better.
– Michael Bush remains the best option for steady yardage in the running game.
– Best looking crop of draft picks I can remember. McClain and Houston are instant starters. Judging offensive linemen is difficult in camp, but Veldheer at least earned a start at center and Bruce Campbell’s body and speed alone are worth a fourth-round pick. Jacoby Ford showed better receiving skills than advertised although slowed by a quad injury. Middle linebacker Travis Goethel looks like a keeper. Seventh-round picks Jeremy Ware and Stevie Brown both have legitimate shots to not only make the team, but play before the season is over.
– Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski really don’t need to attend at all. OK, maybe a week, at most.
Coming later: What we didn’t learn from training camp.
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August 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Oh, um. First.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
I can’t wait for real football to start.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Just Fire Baby,
You and Chris in NY are out of your collective minds! Jason Campbell is not anywhere close to the issue. Campbell is a strength. Making the right reads, moving the offense, staying after EVERY practice, leadership….as Jwiggle said, that INT was because he was hit as he threw…that’s a TD if the O-Line does its job.
Gradkowski is what he is. He had a couple of good games last year, got hurt and then got hurt again. He is not a starting NFL QB….and is hanging on as a backup…just like last year.
Gradkowski appears to be a great guy. But to think he’s an NFL starte? C’mon Man!
August 26th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
SnB,
I’m taking about Bruce, I am talking about how good Campbell is.
Can we stick to the point please?
August 26th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
that INT was because he was hit as he threw…that’s a TD if the O-Line does its job.
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It was first and ten, in the red zone, with a 10-0 lead.
Take the sack, don’t just throw up a duck.
JC has had a reputation for the back-breaking turnovers, and the meaningless stat-packing TD’s and yards.
I have nothing to change this so far, but granted it is earlier.
I am rooting for him, with all the gusto I got. I really didn’t think he looked that good against the Bears and his stats coincide with that belief. He had a very Jamarcus-esque half, with a QB rating of 50, 2 turnovers and a streak of 6 straight incompletions.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
This should be a great year for us Raider fans as it applies to the QB position.
We have a bonafide NFL calibre starter.
His History suggests that he can stay on the field for a full season in spite of mediocre talent on the O line.
I’d like to see just what is possible with a competent QB that can play a full season schedual.
No more shuffling of the deck at the most important position on the team.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Make no mistake, I was not excited about JC when we got him. I thought he was garbage. But I’m willing to give him his shot. So far so good.
You may think Murphy is the ‘most dangerous’ ..I just think you are wrong. Both DHB and Chaz (when healthy) are dangerous. If Murphy was so dangerous and DHB was not then why the hell would coverage continually role to his side?
No arguement about MBush; but no doubt DMC is electric.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Redskins record with Campbell, when he didn’t play:
17-12
Record when he did play:
20-32
You can have the completion %’s and few nice passes he always throws a game.
I want wins.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Just Fire ..I do hear what you are sayin but you have to look at the progression from game #1 to #2 …you can tell he got infinitely more comfortable.
If continues to improve, all the better.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Redskins record with Campbell, when he didn’t play:
17-12
Record when he did play:
20-32
You can have the completion %’s and few nice passes he always throws a game.
I want wins.
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JFB, what’s Grads numbers look like?
August 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
IMO, he has been pretty disappointing, but maybe I am not seeing what other are.
2 preseason games, 17-33 (barely 50%) 219 yards, 1 rushing TD, 2 turnovers, 14 points in almost one full game.
If he continues to play like this, we will be royally screwed.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
JFB,
Miller was free on the inside on that play. JC was looking down field and made the right read and pulled the trigger. That INT was not because of a bad read, forcing the ball etc….it was made because the O-Line allowed the opponent to quickly shoot the gap…
I want my QB making that throw 100x out of 100
That play opens up like that during the season, we will way more of those than lose.
You are all upset over that INT and the snap problem with a backup center? Be sure to give him back the laser he threw to Murphy on 3rd down that he dropped.
I am not feeling what you are saying or seeing. But to each their own.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
ZM is the man. The best TE in that draft. Still out ’stat’ Olsen every year since draft.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I do think Miller is overused sometimes. Its like the QBs are sucking on a nipple and can’t wean themselves off.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
If he continues to play like this, we will be royally screwed.
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Nobody can screw a team like JaMarcus.
Campbell makes us better by default.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Not one for excuses.
He threw a crappy pass, at a terrible time.
He isn’t going to get supreme blocking all the time, we all know that. He better figure out a better alternative than saying, “Well crap if I had the time it would have been…”
Don’t like would have been’s.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Terrapin,
DHB has to make catches in the game. THat’s it. Murphy has made catches…he has a bunch of drops…but he has a bunch of catches and a couple of big games to throw in as well.
The DHB story is about staying healthy and make a few plays in a game to give us confidence that he is truly getting better
August 26th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Listen ..you dont get doubled if you are not dangerous. Thats all I’m saying
August 26th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Jerry would’ve been better off saying “most productive” …’dangerous’ is a matter of opinion
August 26th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Listen ..you dont get doubled if you are not dangerous. Thats all I’m saying
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Yep. But…The guy has to show He can get it done.
That means production.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Terrapin,
Be careful with the rhetoric the Raiders were talking last year about decoys and all that.
Last year was a bad year for all involved. He’s going to get plenty of chances to shine.
If they didn’t think he could do it, I don’t think they would talk him up
He’s just got to make some plays.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
If DHB goes the entire 3qs vs sf without a single catch then something is seriously wrong and he should not start.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I’m patient n I can hope but enough is enough
..queue JR, Satele, Chaz, Ron Curry, Madonna Porter, et al
either ran out or running out of patience/time
August 26th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
I can think of a few reasons why I’d like to see DHB “breakout”
He validates to Himself and the Raiders he was worth the 7th pick.
He makes the Raiders a better Team, with the potential to win more games because of his presence.
It will shut the national naysayers up.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
T’pinRaider
They aint seen nothing yet just wait until this guy gets confident in the guy’s he’s playing with and the timing gets better. One thing he’s never had is continuity from one season to the next over the next few seasons if we keep Hue this guy is going to be really good.
DHB and McFadden will have a huge impact on the passing game. Based on what Hue says this could be a very good campaign this year.
August 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Terrapin,
Getting DHB into the game is more up to Hue Jackson. They have to design plays and get him involved early.
bubble screens, quick slants etc….short throws..not just intermediate and deep stuff.
They gotta use DHB as a full receiver…not just the speed guy.
This weekend will be interesting
August 26th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Could you imagine if this team was going into the season with just an injured Gradkowski and Boller…..
Whew.
Finally have a legit play caller in Campbell. Just got to be patient with the young receivers.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
What’s up Nation?
I wish Chaz “dont squeeze the” Chillens wasn’t so fragile but wishes don’t get you anywhere in this league. Our young guys have to step up & I think HueJax will get the best out of what we have. And w/ DHB, the sky is the limit. His speed, size & work ethic could lead to greatness. His hands just have to catch up, pun intended. Reportedly they have, we’ll see.
That said, I really don’t think bringing in proven producers (also proven headaches) like V. Jackson or Plaxico are good for this team. These guys are character guys that are willing to take direction & do what it takes to win. Let’s give em All we got & if that isnt enough for the div crown/playoffs, then add to the good core we’ve built, not make despiration signings that blow up in our faces – D Hall, J Walker, G Wilson…
August 26th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Terrapin,
Getting DHB into the game is more up to Hue Jackson. They have to design plays and get him involved early.
bubble screens, quick slants etc….short throws..not just intermediate and deep stuff.
They gotta use DHB as a full receiver…not just the speed guy.
This weekend will be interesting
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Agreed. And everything we have heard from camps leads us to believe Hue is doing just that.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
DHB and McFadden will have a huge impact on the passing game. Based on what Hue says this could be a very good campaign this year.
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If DMAC and DHB get loose this year, It will be very bad news for the opposing Defense.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Jersey, well said.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
JFB,
That’s ridiculous! JC was hit as he was throwing the ball. His eyes were downfield and his guy was open. He pulled the trigger. If that happens, I can live with that.
The bad read, not on the same page stuff is what would concern me. Haven’t seen much of that.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I’m just ready to get the season started. 4 preseason games are way too much. the last one won’t even matter. starters wont even play so its almost a waste!
August 26th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Could you imagine if this team was going into the season with just an injured Gradkowski and Boller…..
Whew.
Finally have a legit play caller in Campbell. Just got to be patient with the young receivers.
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Continuity Baby. Let’s see if we can keep Campbell on the field for at least 16 games and see where it leads.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Jamarcus Russell’s preseason rating the first two games of last preseason:
80.8 and 114.2
Jason Campbell’s:
62.7 and 58.3
Not sure what everyone is seeing, but have at it.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Season stat Projections
Cambell 3500+ yards 60-65% completions 22TDs and 17INTS
Bush 1175 yards rushing 8TDs. 300 Receiving 1TD
McFadden 500 yards rushing 4TDs, 500 yards receiving 3TDs
Miller 90 Catches for 950 yards and 8 TDS
DHB 60 Catches for 800 yards and 4TDs
Murphy 70 Catches for 1050 yards and 6TDs
August 26th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
The bad read, not on the same page stuff is what would concern me. Haven’t seen much of that.
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Exactly!
August 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Agreed. And everything we have heard from camps leads us to believe Hue is doing just that.
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Speaking of Heard, has he done anything to think he’ll make the 53? Our d-line is pretty deep: Seymour, Kelly, Shonasty, Houston, Henerson, Bryant, JRich… Can he beat out Joseph, Cooper, Daniels (lol), etc?
August 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Jamarcus Russell’s preseason rating the first two games of last preseason:
80.8 and 114.2
Jason Campbell’s:
62.7 and 58.3
Not sure what everyone is seeing, but have at it.
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What it says is preseason stats don’t mean shhhhhhhh
August 26th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
17-33 (barely 50%) 219 yards, 1 rushing TD, 2 turnovers, 14 points in almost one full game.
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Right on pace for the 17-24 pts I told you this offense would put up.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
What it says is preseason stats don’t mean shhhhhhhh
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Hopefully……..
August 26th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Is the QB making the right read.
Is he forcing the ball
Did he engineer a few crisp drives
How many red zone appearances
stats in the preseason can mean a lot of things. Teams are running vanilla offenses…experimenting and all that stuff.
Matt Leinart has completed 90% of his passes and he just got benched!
Preseason stats don’t mean a JaDavis Diet Purple Drank
August 26th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Hey, if Campbell doesn’t pan out, we can trade for Matt Flynn from the Packers.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Miller 90 Catches for 950 yards and 8 TDS
DHB 60 Catches for 800 yards and 4TDs
Murphy 70 Catches for 1050 yards and 6TDs
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If we get that kind of production out of our reciving corps, we’re looking at a first round bye, lol. I like your entusiasm raidersxy, but ion’t know.
Pour me a cup of that kool aid, cuz that is some potent stuff!
August 26th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Right on pace for the 17-24 pts I told you this offense would put up.
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Not even on pace for the bottome of your range.
He has played about 3.5 quarters. So he would be on pace to lead us to 15.7 points a game.
Maybe you are just the excuse maker for our QB’s and I am the over-critical one.
Somewhere, we need to meet in the middle, becasue that is probably where the reality is.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Miller 90 Catches for 950 yards and 8 TDS
DHB 60 Catches for 800 yards and 4TDs
Murphy 70 Catches for 1050 yards and 6TDs
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If we get that kind of production out of our reciving corps, we’re looking at a first round bye, lol. I like your entusiasm raidersxy, but ion’t know.
Pour me a cup of that kool aid, cuz that is some potent stuff!
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Hey Murphy is just going to build on his 500+ yards last season and Miller is more than capable of 950 yards he had close to 800 last season I beleive.
I say DHB may or may not produce but either way give some of those yards to JLH and Schilens if healthy and there you go
August 26th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
The was some of our Olinemen get beat, JC is without question going to have turnovers.
DE strips him from behind after beating Mario.
Satele gets rag dolled tips JC pass to DMac is picked off
Not to mention the ball bouncing off DHB/Murphy’s hands, lol.
We ALL know that’s going to happen.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Redskins record with Campbell, when he didn’t play:
17-12
Record when he did play:
20-32
You can have the completion %’s and few nice passes he always throws a game. I want wins.
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just fire,
some nfl qbs who dont fare well with their first teams find stability in teams and offenses that suits them. Just look at Kurt Warner, and Rich Gannon, journeyman qbs who found stability in both the rams and raiders respectively. things are looking up so dont be pessimistic, we got a qb thats a huge upgrade over russell and is a competent qb. thats all we need.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
If Campbell had been here to be kicked around for awhile, nobody would be excited about his run so far (again granted it is early; a good start this weekend would do wonders). But since he is in his honeymoon, all is well.
The facts remain that his career won-loss record and stats makes him the worst starting QB in our division.
I don’t want our QB to hold back this potentially great defense, kicking game, and above-average running game.
If he goes for 20 TD’s and 18 turnovers like last year, we won’t win squat.
Sorry to play the role of Kool-Kell tonight, but it has to be said. He needs to improve, and he has two weeks to do so, because Tennesse in a home-opener is going to be WAAAAYYYYY harder than playing the Bears in a preseason game.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
15.7 points a game.
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Haven’t heard of the 1.7pt play mayne.
Bottom line is the offense looked WAY better in game 2 than game 1. Saw a lot of progress. Game 2, the offense had THREE scoring drives. Why you are trying to roll game 1 up into this game is beyond me.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Hey Murphy is just going to build on his 500+ yards last season and Miller is more than capable of 950 yards he had close to 800 last season I beleive.
I say DHB may or may not produce but either way give some of those yards to JLH and Schilens if healthy and there you go
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Im all for it sxy, I’m just not going that far out on the limb. I’m on it just not that far out there.
Our defense is what really excites me. We’ve been decent on D in recent years, but got no help/rest from the offense & this year we’ve taken huge jumps on the first two levels & maintained, at the very least, on our strength, the DB’s. W/ a C+ offense, we’re in the mix come December & that’s all I’ve wanted from my Raiders for years now! Let’s get it boys!!!!!
August 26th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Jacoby Ford showed better receiving skills than advertised although slowed by a quad injury….
JFORD <——- Hope he gets a lot of run sat youngster is a footballer….
August 26th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Relevancy & Respectability is Oakland bound, believe that!
August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Just Fire,
JC is learning the offense with a young and inexperienced receiving corps and a shoddy O-Line. They ain’t coming out here looking like the Colts in their first games. No way.
This team gets better as the year goes by…but if you are looking for the “Greatest Show on Turf” out of the gate…you are going to be disappointed.
Also, your boy “Grads” ain’t getting the job. And he is a lesser option than Campbell is. If that wasn’t the case, he’d be neck and neck with Campbell. Instead he’s neck and neck with Boller for backup and possibly for a roster spot. ~ One great Quarter and a decent game doesn’t guarantee anything unless JaDavis is your competition
Jason Campbell gives this team the best chance to be successfull.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
There was a live session of a dozen or so plays, and a goal line sequence, but as long as Al Davis owns the Raiders don’t expect the head coach to risk losing talent before a regular season game is played.
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Let’s see if they are indeed “physical” this year.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.
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This kid is going to be a threat for sure…
I missed the game, watched the play by play on my blackberry.
Looking forward to see how Hue mixes it up with a complete complement of tools…
August 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
hey guys tell me why i was at the bar today with my brother in law and i was rockin my white asomugha jersey and i got in an argument with these two stupid dolts fans that were saying “whens the next time the raiders gonna beat the chargers cuz 13 straight is gonna be 15 straight soon!” and i told them “yet in your pathetic 50 year existence in the NFL you guys only managed to scrap one afc title and no superbowl wins and my team has won 3 championships and is one of the winningest teams in the nfl. since obviously they have a bleak past these idiots state our championships were 25 years ago and the past is the past and still in the present 4 straight div. titles cant translate into a trip to the superbowl. you guys are lucky that in the bay that there are actually loyal fan bases, cuz in san diego most of the charger fans are bandwagon fakers that hopped on when the pitiful dolts started winning in ‘04.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.
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This kid is going to be a threat for sure…
I missed the game, watched the play by play on my blackberry.
Looking forward to see how Hue mixes it up with a complete complement of tools…
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yeah i hope we also get to see him in the return game because this cat is explosive.
cant wait to see him play against frisco.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
– Louis Murphy is far and away the Raiders’ best and most dangerous receiver _ and he still drops too many passes for a real level of comfort.
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Wide receiver? Yes.
Best receiver overall is THE ZACH.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Goog evenin Thec, KK SNB, J Wigg, JFB, NATION.
August 26th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Good.
August 26th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
What up Dirty???
August 26th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
A comment regarding Raider Dell from previous “Vehldeer on the fast Track” blog.
Mr. Bruce Campbell is not playing special teams/
Could you imagine that Beast, with his speed juggernauting down to tackle a kick or punt returner?
Blockers would be moving out of the way!
August 26th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
AHHHHHH. Anyone see the “catch” Alge Crumpler just made in the Patriots Rams game? Wow, just wow. He uses the ground to help catch the ball out of bounds. they call it no catch and then it is reviewed. they call it s catch because he controlled the ball.
Anyone rememebr Louis Murphy last year on opening night> Geeze, its so unfair being a raiders fan. I know tis only preseason but the point is that if Crumpler was wearing silver and black everyone knows the catch wouldnt be overturned if it was the EXACT same situation. I hate the Cheat-triots.
August 26th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
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August 26th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
daraider09,
yeah i saw it, but dogg it aint nothing new, this been happenin to the raiders since we entered the nfl. theres always calls that go against us. hell we should probably have an etra 3-4 superbowls if it wasnt for bullsh!t calls and the immaculate deception.
August 26th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
what’s the word?
jackson is taking us tio the superbowl!
August 26th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
yes indeed, hue is taking us to the bowl
August 26th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Dmac will be the comeback player of the year. and he will be used better aka wildcat
August 26th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
the defense is finally going to get some offensive help. the Raiders was in every game last year. now with the offense better means more wins and the defense stays fresher.
August 26th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
The offense wont be any better.
August 26th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Garbage o-line + garbage WRs + avg RBs + below avg Qb = Bad offense
August 26th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
defense is a key and part of the formula to a super bowl victory!
August 26th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
defense is part of a super bowl victory?? What will you tell us next?…..The suns hot? or Waters wet???
August 26th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
the water is blue and sun is yellow!
August 26th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Pito
August 26th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Dude, special teams and D will score 28 points a game, how can we lose?
August 26th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Out 4 the night..
August 26th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Dude Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
The offense wont be any better.
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I beg to differ. We’re talking about a professional QB vs Purple Drank. Puhleezzz. We aint no Indy or Saints but the offense is going to be vastly improved just by not enduring 10 games under Purple Drank.
August 26th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
I saw Peyton vs Rodgers tonite. Amazing QB’s. But, playing in the same system for so long is such an advantage.
August 26th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
KK
I agree. They both looked great but Rogers in particular was red hot. Green Bay looks like a real contender. That game tonight may have been a preview of the next SB.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:11 am
I laughed till I cried…
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/351603/august-26-2010/you-mosque-be-kidding
August 27th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Tommy Kelly jumps offsides too often and it remains to be seen if he’s a nose tackle
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Uh oh
August 27th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation and Happy Aloha Friday!!!
Can’t wait til tomorrow!!!
August 27th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Good morning Nation
Loved to see Peyton get his arse handed to him.
Go RAIDERS
August 27th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Observation; Jason Campbell is certainly an upgrade for us a QB. However, until gets adequate protection from his offensive line and his receivers are able to get open and catch the ball on a consistent basis he is going to be less effective than perhaps we’d like him to be.
Please keep these things in mind before throwing him under the bus and blaming him for the struggles our offense is going to have at times this year.
August 27th, 2010 at 6:46 am
Pitos
August 27th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Morning Nation
August 27th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Good morning all.
August 27th, 2010 at 6:52 am
2 Pitos and A Chica
August 27th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Morning Pito
August 27th, 2010 at 6:55 am
– Hope Zach Miller is in the best shape of his life. He’ll take more blows than Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent. It took Campbell about five seconds to discover Miller is his best option.
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Keep a spot ready for a vet WR….we’ll need one.
August 27th, 2010 at 6:56 am
NoLuv…..
Ignorant Englishman here……Pito means……?
August 27th, 2010 at 6:57 am
How could Miller ever take the shots he did with Russell, don’t know if I have ever seen a NFL QB get his guy killed just ask JLH.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:06 am
He didn’t did he.Got his bell rung more than once.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:07 am
As much as we are all clamoring for a vet wr… I dont see the organization going after one. Although they would be silly not to take a flyer on TJ Houshyamamma if seattle does in fact release him.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:09 am
priesttj Says:
August 26th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Gruden has never said anything remotely like that and neither has Callahan…………show us the quotes..
Fox had a fight with Big Al so I know he said it but the rest show me. There are coaches on this present staff that worked here before and came back…..explain that. Tons of coaches who played here and want the job…………explain that.
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Sean Payton said so in his book.
Parcells asked Payton what advice he’d received. Payton said Gruden, Fox and Callahan all advised him against taking the job.
“Bill said, ‘Put my name behind those three. You’re gonna get your chance. This isn’t the right one, kid,’” Payton wrote.
I guess I’d believe Sean Payton over Priesttj on this issue simply because Priesttj is so loyal to Al Davis.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Sean Payton played football over here.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:16 am
RRAAAAIIIIIIIDDDEEEERRRRRRSSS!!!!
Ed Teach….good note and I think that everyone should keep your post somewhere so that they can refer back to it from time to time!
August 27th, 2010 at 7:24 am
In 1988, he played in the United Kingdom for the Leicester Panthers. Payton landed the starting quarterback role for the Panthers. Payton led the Panthers to a touchdown on the first possession. That same season saw the Panthers go to the Quarterfinals of the British League, eventually losing to the London Olympians after Payton had returned early to the US to take up a coaching position.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:26 am
I guess I’d believe Sean Payton over Priesttj on this issue simply because Priesttj is so loyal to Al Davis.
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Then again, TJ was telepathic about McMuffin…
August 27th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Being right about 1 thing in 30 years?
lol
August 27th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Trade DMac for a McMuffin!
August 27th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Did he know you were going to say that Bo?
August 27th, 2010 at 7:39 am
49ers set to unveil weapons Saturday
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 27, 2010 10:32 AM ET
The 49ers bandwagon has filled up rather quickly, mostly on the basis of a strong defense in 2009 and some big names on offense that don’t play quarterback.
On Saturday, Mike Singletary will see two of those young stars play for the first time this preseason. Michael Crabtree should play roughly a quarter after missing the first two games of the preseason with a neck strain. Frank Gore will get playing time after missing the first two preseason games because he’s Frank Gore.
The team will also see what Brian Westbrook has to offer. It will be the former Philly star’s first work since concussion knocked him out early in the 2009 season.
The only key missing for San Francisco on Saturday will be Vernon Davis, who doesn’t appear likely to play again the preseason because of a knee injury
August 27th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Time for some dinner…..
Have a great weekend everyone.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:47 am
neilb Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Did he know you were going to say that Bo?
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I am nothing if not consistent!
August 27th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Westbrook is a concussion away from becoming a vegetable
August 27th, 2010 at 7:57 am
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!! the beauty of taking time off work and talking RAIDER FOOTBALL!!
August 27th, 2010 at 7:57 am
He better have some extra padding in the helmet because McClain and Mitchell will be looking to take that dudes head off. Crabtree is as fragile as our boy Chaz
August 27th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Yo Hoe, what do you mean when you say “pito”? I see it everyday wtf?
August 27th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Frank Gore and the Niners O-Line should be a good test for our D. They need to give three strong quarters, without major mental lapses like that Forte run last week.
August 27th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Google image search it
August 27th, 2010 at 8:00 am
LOOKS TO me like the indiana colts are in need of LB’S and have an influx of WR’S….hymmmm… what would it take to get reggie wayne in silver & black?????????? that should be under SERIOUS CONSIDERATION!!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:02 am
whistle?
August 27th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Vincent jackson, who’s your mama, and Reggie Wayne. Trade for one of those pitos
August 27th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Yeah whistle
August 27th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Also horn
August 27th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Not a chance they are trading Wayne to us
August 27th, 2010 at 8:09 am
we need a proven playmaker in here… need to score points to win games… id let go t. scott right now for reggie wayne if thats what the colts wanted..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Trade DMAC, not Scott.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:11 am
30 year,
Please tell me your last post concerning T Scott and Wayne was a joke.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:12 am
never say never… when a team has an ABBUNDANCE of players at one position and lack at others things can happen.. they got a great looking young wr in garcon who comes alot cheaper for them.. never say never to anything when it comes to sports..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Umm if not trade for a wr when is the first roster cuts?
August 27th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Howard and a draft pick to the Colts for Anthony Gonzalez, please.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:14 am
of course youd have to sweeten the pot with a high draft pick but things can happen..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:16 am
per urban dictionary:
1)A type of beer brewed locally in northern Ghana, served warm and most commonly in an outdoor seating area.
2)The real meaning of pito in Spanish is a small flute or whistle. In some Latin American countries, pito is referred to as a rolled cigarette such as a marijuana joint.
3)Slang for peanis in mexico and/or someone with a very low IQ. Usually used in place of someones first name to be made into an insult referring to them.
4)”Whistle” in Spanish, but generally used to refer to a peanis.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:20 am
# TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Howard and a draft pick to the Colts for Anthony Gonzalez, please.
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i thought of that too but hell, wanna win big WE GOTTA START THINKING BIG! this ship is turning in the right direction, we need to start making moves to get better…in order to do that sometimes u have to give up something pretty good..t. scott is just an example…we have gotten players in here b4 of high caliber… ie. randy moss, r. seymour.. etc..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:25 am
reggie wayne can be had… hes no spring chicken hes in his 10th yr…like i said the colts have a need they need LBS.. And we have something to offer..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:26 am
LOL!! I would love to be on the line when Al Davis called the Colts….
Al-Hey Bill, would you like to swap your all world reciever Reggie Wayne for our fringe NFL starter Trevor Scott?
Bill- Hey Al, WHO THE F IS TREVOR SCOTT????
August 27th, 2010 at 8:26 am
WE NEED TO START THINKING BIG IN ORDER TO WIN BIG
August 27th, 2010 at 8:28 am
30 year,
Maybe the dumbest post EVER to show up on this site. And thats saying alot considering Priest and Raider O frequent this site. Congrats! LOL!!!!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Hey maybe next we can call the Rams and offer up Mike Mitchell for Steven Jackson!!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:30 am
# Dude Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:26 am
LOL!! I would love to be on the line when Al Davis called the Colts….
Al-Hey Bill, would you like to swap your all world reciever Reggie Wayne for our fringe NFL starter Trevor Scott?
Bill- Hey Al, WHO THE F IS TREVOR SCOTT????
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man id love to have you as our GM… LMAO.. NO BALLS AND NO HEART… he was an example.. like i said youd have to sweeten the pot with a high draft pick but he can be had..
August 27th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Al would want Wayne and a 2nd round pick for Scott.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Then we holler at the Cowboys and see if theyre willing to send Romo our way for sayyyyyyy…. oh I dont know…Stanford Routte.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Folks,
Once again you guys are overrating Raider talent. If Thomas Howard can’t start for Oakland…why on Earth would Indy trade its best receiver for him…hell its 5th receiver for him?
Thomas Howard is all speed. That’s it. Can’t tackle, not a good blitzer, can’t shed blocks…just another guy. Does he play special teams?
He’s an Al Davis Height/Weight/Speed bust. Sorry! They threw a 2nd round tender….no one bit…and no one will. He will be fighting to stay in the league and might be on the well worn Oakland to Omaha flight.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Where in the world did you get the idea Reggie Wayne could be had??? Name one rumor, one source, one whisper in the wind. No way your dumb enough to actually believe what your posting. I worry that your walking the streets if so.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 am
The Celtics may have a slight lead over the Lakers in NBA championships, 17-16, but which of the two storied franchises would win if their all-time best players and coaches squared off?
After comparing each team’s all-time best players (at their peak), position by position, and doing the same with the coaches, the Lakers have a 4-2 advantage.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/08/alltime-lakers-vs-alltime-celtics-guess-who-wins.html
August 27th, 2010 at 8:33 am
# Dude Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:28 am
30 year,
Maybe the dumbest post EVER to show up on this site. And thats saying alot considering Priest and Raider O frequent this site. Congrats! LOL!!!!
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you obviously dont remember that we traded NAP. HARRIS for RANDY MOSS do you
August 27th, 2010 at 8:35 am
That post was a peace offering to my fellow Laker fan, the Ostrich of Hot Springs.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:36 am
you obviously dont remember that we traded NAP. HARRIS for RANDY MOSS do you
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And got robbed.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Moss was a cancer and wanted out of Minn. Harris was coming off a good year and was well thought of. BIGGGGGG diff
August 27th, 2010 at 8:43 am
I read that yesterday Bo.
I admonish you for not keeping up on Lakers’ stories.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Nap Harris AND THE 7th OVERALL PICK!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:45 am
August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 am
The Celtics may have a slight lead over the Lakers in NBA championships, 17-16, but which of the two storied franchises would win if their all-time best players and coaches squared off?
After comparing each team’s all-time best players (at their peak), position by position, and doing the same with the coaches, the Lakers have a 4-2 advantage.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/08/alltime-lakers-vs-alltime-celtics-guess-who-wins.html
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lakers will tie the boston next yr when they raise #17
August 27th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Strasburg needs Tommy John surgery lol
At least the Cubs got a few decent months out of Mark Prior!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
# Dude Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Moss was a cancer and wanted out of Minn. Harris was coming off a good year and was well thought of. BIGGGGGG diff
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ya hes a cancer.. lmao thats what tom brady calls him every day.. ” hey cancer nice 81 yrd touchdown” LMAO ‘
August 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Dude is useless. He has no ideas, opinions, and he doesn’t contribute anything to this blog.
Dude = Jabustus!!!!!
August 27th, 2010 at 8:50 am
# Raider O Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Dude is useless. He has no ideas, opinions, and he doesn’t contribute anything to this blog.
Dude = Jabustus!!!!!
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YOUR TELLING ME!! LMAO
August 27th, 2010 at 8:51 am
harris was a throw in for them. it was moss for a 7th overall pick
August 27th, 2010 at 8:53 am
BTW, it was N Harris and 1st RD Pick.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:55 am
N Harris was selected in the 1st RD, so it was like trading 2 1st RD picks.
August 27th, 2010 at 9:01 am
New post ladies…
August 27th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Pitolos
August 27th, 2010 at 10:32 am
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August 27th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Campbell is Kerry Collins part II in my opinion. Hes not a bad player, he’ll put up decent enough numbers to keep his job, he will have the occasional big passing day. But he’s not the type of QB who can lead this team out of its 7 year slump. For excited as people are about Campbell, he was 4-12 as a starter last year, 20-32 for his career. The biggest criticism about Campbell in Washington is that he was indecisive and hung onto the ball too long. Campbells bad habits coupled with our inexperienced, and frankly subpar, receiving corps will not bode well for this team. Campbell will be an upgrade over Russell, and he will certainly put up better numbers than JaFootlong, but dont expect him to lead this team to the playoffs. Campbell puts up respectable stats and completes a high percentage of his passes by checking down to his backs and tight ends all the time. He wont lose games for you, but he wont win them for you either.
August 27th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
What we really learned from training camp:
1. Raiders have a legitimate shot at 7-9 with a few breaks.
2. Raiders have no real center, offensive tackle, or primary receiver.
3. Al Davis still a cancer on this organization.
4. Kool-aid drinkers on this blog still delusional and incapable of insightful critical analysis.
5. Hope springs eternal when every team is 0-0.
6. Al is another year closer to his demise.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:05 am
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