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What we learned from training camp

Things we learned from Camp 2010 at the Napa Marriott:

– The Raiders go into the season with zero doubt as to their starting quarterback. Jason Campbell is it, as proclaimed by Tom Cable the day camp opened.

Of course, JaMarcus Russell was the anointed starter last year, but every day was a referendum on his performance and work ethic.

– The offense belongs to Hue Jackson. He was finally allowed to talk to the media Thursday, but what he did on the field spoke far more than what he said in a 13-plus minute interview.

Jackson brought more electricity and made practice more interesting than any Raider coach since Jon Gruden.

– Distractions, by Raiders standards, are at the lowest rate in memory.

No fisticuffs between assistants or allegations of domestic assault. No disgruntled players, unless you count a concussed Luke Lawton, wondering why he didn’t get more snaps following a head injury. Exclusive franchise player Richard Seymour was the first man off the bus and even if that was a staged bit of symbolism, very little that went on in Napa suggested this was a team on the verge of imploding.

– Either the “competition” suggested by the coaches was a sham, or this group was extraordinary at determining its best players.

The depth chart looks the same now as it did in OTAs and minicamps, with injuries being the only wild card.

– Rolando McClain and Lamarr Houston had better be good right away.

They were starters from the moment they arrived, and both looked to be upgrades, although you never really know until real games begin.

– Camp Cable was not much different than Camp Kiffin, Camp Shell, Camp Callahan, Camp Gruden or any other camp in terms of violence at the line of scrimmage.

There was a live session of a dozen or so plays, and a goal line sequence, but as long as Al Davis owns the Raiders don’t expect the head coach to risk losing talent before a regular season game is played.

– Chaz Schilens simply cannot be relied upon as a big part of the offense based on his propensity for injury. Two foot surgeries, now an arthroscopic knee procedure. The Raiders are holding out hope he’ll be ready for Week 1, but that’s not the way to bet.

– Louis Murphy is far and away the Raiders’ best and most dangerous receiver _ and he still drops too many passes for a real level of comfort.

– Hope Zach Miller is in the best shape of his life. He’ll take more blows than Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent. It took Campbell about five seconds to discover Miller is his best option.

– Nnamdi Asomugha is the new Tim Brown in terms of speaking his mind and not concerning himself with what the owner thinks. He’s all Raider, and likes what he sees, but Asomugha makes so much money and has such status he can also say what he thinks and not worry about the ramifications.

– McClain is his own man. He goes his own way and seems to have a serene confidence about himself, while not having much interest in talking to reporters (no problem) or even signing autographs for fans who cheer his name (not a problem either, but not cool).

– Cable may have distanced himself from the direction of the offense, but he can’t help himself when he sees issues on the offensive line. When he does, Jim Michalczik steps aside.

– Tommy Kelly jumps offsides too often and it remains to be seen if he’s a nose tackle, but darned if he didn’t come into camp in the best shape of his life with what seems to be a sincere belief that he’s got to do better.

– Michael Bush remains the best option for steady yardage in the running game.

– Best looking crop of draft picks I can remember. McClain and Houston are instant starters. Judging offensive linemen is difficult in camp, but Veldheer at least earned a start at center and Bruce Campbell’s body and speed alone are worth a fourth-round pick. Jacoby Ford showed better receiving skills than advertised although slowed by a quad injury. Middle linebacker Travis Goethel looks like a keeper. Seventh-round picks Jeremy Ware and Stevie Brown both have legitimate shots to not only make the team, but play before the season is over.

– Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski really don’t need to attend at all. OK, maybe a week, at most.

Coming later: What we didn’t learn from training camp.

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  • RaiderFanFromJersey

    Hey Murphy is just going to build on his 500+ yards last season and Miller is more than capable of 950 yards he had close to 800 last season I beleive.

    I say DHB may or may not produce but either way give some of those yards to JLH and Schilens if healthy and there you go

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    Im all for it sxy, I’m just not going that far out on the limb. I’m on it just not that far out there.
    Our defense is what really excites me. We’ve been decent on D in recent years, but got no help/rest from the offense & this year we’ve taken huge jumps on the first two levels & maintained, at the very least, on our strength, the DB’s. W/ a C+ offense, we’re in the mix come December & that’s all I’ve wanted from my Raiders for years now! Let’s get it boys!!!!!

  • Thec07

    Jacoby Ford showed better receiving skills than advertised although slowed by a quad injury….

    JFORD <——- Hope he gets a lot of run sat youngster is a footballer….

  • RaiderFanFromJersey

    Relevancy & Respectability is Oakland bound, believe that!

  • tazZraider

    agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Just Fire,

    JC is learning the offense with a young and inexperienced receiving corps and a shoddy O-Line. They ain’t coming out here looking like the Colts in their first games. No way.

    This team gets better as the year goes by…but if you are looking for the “Greatest Show on Turf” out of the gate…you are going to be disappointed.

    Also, your boy “Grads” ain’t getting the job. And he is a lesser option than Campbell is. If that wasn’t the case, he’d be neck and neck with Campbell. Instead he’s neck and neck with Boller for backup and possibly for a roster spot. ~ One great Quarter and a decent game doesn’t guarantee anything unless JaDavis is your competition ;)

    Jason Campbell gives this team the best chance to be successfull.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    There was a live session of a dozen or so plays, and a goal line sequence, but as long as Al Davis owns the Raiders don’t expect the head coach to risk losing talent before a regular season game is played.
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    Let’s see if they are indeed “physical” this year.

  • Thec07

    tazZraider Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.

    +++++++++++

    This kid is going to be a threat for sure…
    I missed the game, watched the play by play on my blackberry.
    Looking forward to see how Hue mixes it up with a complete complement of tools…

  • tazZraider

    hey guys tell me why i was at the bar today with my brother in law and i was rockin my white asomugha jersey and i got in an argument with these two stupid dolts fans that were saying “whens the next time the raiders gonna beat the chargers cuz 13 straight is gonna be 15 straight soon!” and i told them “yet in your pathetic 50 year existence in the NFL you guys only managed to scrap one afc title and no superbowl wins and my team has won 3 championships and is one of the winningest teams in the nfl. since obviously they have a bleak past these idiots state our championships were 25 years ago and the past is the past and still in the present 4 straight div. titles cant translate into a trip to the superbowl. you guys are lucky that in the bay that there are actually loyal fan bases, cuz in san diego most of the charger fans are bandwagon fakers that hopped on when the pitiful dolts started winning in ’04.

  • tazZraider

    tazZraider Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    agree with you on ford thec,the kid displayed good receiving skills and those two balls thrown at him was all hands. excited for him i think he’ll be a threat.

    +++++++++++

    This kid is going to be a threat for sure…
    I missed the game, watched the play by play on my blackberry.
    Looking forward to see how Hue mixes it up with a complete complement of tools…
    ******************************************
    yeah i hope we also get to see him in the return game because this cat is explosive.
    cant wait to see him play against frisco.

  • DirtyRaccoon

    – Louis Murphy is far and away the Raiders’ best and most dangerous receiver _ and he still drops too many passes for a real level of comfort.

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    Wide receiver? Yes.

    Best receiver overall is THE ZACH.

  • DirtyRaccoon

    Goog evenin Thec, KK SNB, J Wigg, JFB, NATION.

  • DirtyRaccoon

    Good.

  • Thec07

    What up Dirty???

  • RaiderRetribution

    A comment regarding Raider Dell from previous “Vehldeer on the fast Track” blog.

    Mr. Bruce Campbell is not playing special teams/

    Could you imagine that Beast, with his speed juggernauting down to tackle a kick or punt returner?

    Blockers would be moving out of the way!

  • daraider09

    AHHHHHH. Anyone see the “catch” Alge Crumpler just made in the Patriots Rams game? Wow, just wow. He uses the ground to help catch the ball out of bounds. they call it no catch and then it is reviewed. they call it s catch because he controlled the ball.

    Anyone rememebr Louis Murphy last year on opening night> Geeze, its so unfair being a raiders fan. I know tis only preseason but the point is that if Crumpler was wearing silver and black everyone knows the catch wouldnt be overturned if it was the EXACT same situation. I hate the Cheat-triots.

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  • tazZraider

    daraider09,
    yeah i saw it, but dogg it aint nothing new, this been happenin to the raiders since we entered the nfl. theres always calls that go against us. hell we should probably have an etra 3-4 superbowls if it wasnt for bullsh!t calls and the immaculate deception.

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg r8eray

    what’s the word?
    jackson is taking us tio the superbowl!

  • ajoakrader

    yes indeed, hue is taking us to the bowl

  • ajoakrader

    Dmac will be the comeback player of the year. and he will be used better aka wildcat

  • ajoakrader

    the defense is finally going to get some offensive help. the Raiders was in every game last year. now with the offense better means more wins and the defense stays fresher.

  • Dude

    The offense wont be any better.

  • Dude

    Garbage o-line + garbage WRs + avg RBs + below avg Qb = Bad offense

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg r8eray

    defense is a key and part of the formula to a super bowl victory!

  • Dude

    defense is part of a super bowl victory?? What will you tell us next?…..The suns hot? or Waters wet???

  • http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/family08016.jpg r8eray

    the water is blue and sun is yellow!

  • http://www.tube8.com NoLuv4Hoes

    Pito

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    Dude, special teams and D will score 28 points a game, how can we lose?

  • http://Raiders4Ever.com 860Todd Christensen

    Out 4 the night..

  • aig-raiders

    Dude Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    The offense wont be any better.
    ————

    I beg to differ. We’re talking about a professional QB vs Purple Drank. Puhleezzz. We aint no Indy or Saints but the offense is going to be vastly improved just by not enduring 10 games under Purple Drank.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    I saw Peyton vs Rodgers tonite. Amazing QB’s. But, playing in the same system for so long is such an advantage.

  • JB

    KK

    I agree. They both looked great but Rogers in particular was red hot. Green Bay looks like a real contender. That game tonight may have been a preview of the next SB.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    Tommy Kelly jumps offsides too often and it remains to be seen if he’s a nose tackle

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    Uh oh :x

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation and Happy Aloha Friday!!!
    Can’t wait til tomorrow!!!

  • 90806RAIDER77

    Good morning Nation
    Loved to see Peyton get his arse handed to him.
    Go RAIDERS

  • edward teach

    Observation; Jason Campbell is certainly an upgrade for us a QB. However, until gets adequate protection from his offensive line and his receivers are able to get open and catch the ball on a consistent basis he is going to be less effective than perhaps we’d like him to be.

    Please keep these things in mind before throwing him under the bus and blaming him for the struggles our offense is going to have at times this year.

  • http://www.tube8.com NoLuv4Hoes

    Pitos

  • bcz24

    Morning Nation

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Good morning all.

  • fat kidd

    2 Pitos and A Chica

  • http://www.tube8.com NoLuv4Hoes

    Morning Pito

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    – Hope Zach Miller is in the best shape of his life. He’ll take more blows than Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent. It took Campbell about five seconds to discover Miller is his best option.

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    Keep a spot ready for a vet WR….we’ll need one.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    NoLuv…..

    Ignorant Englishman here……Pito means……?

  • NoMoreFargasForever

    How could Miller ever take the shots he did with Russell, don’t know if I have ever seen a NFL QB get his guy killed just ask JLH.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    He didn’t did he.Got his bell rung more than once.

  • bcz24

    As much as we are all clamoring for a vet wr… I dont see the organization going after one. Although they would be silly not to take a flyer on TJ Houshyamamma if seattle does in fact release him.

  • http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_04kZGR_ltmE/TB4fQEZq4aI/AAAAAAAAH1U/H_ihQYOECNo/s1600/Kobe-Bryant-Lakers-W Dakota

    priesttj Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Gruden has never said anything remotely like that and neither has Callahan…………show us the quotes..

    Fox had a fight with Big Al so I know he said it but the rest show me. There are coaches on this present staff that worked here before and came back…..explain that. Tons of coaches who played here and want the job…………explain that.

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    Sean Payton said so in his book.

    Parcells asked Payton what advice he’d received. Payton said Gruden, Fox and Callahan all advised him against taking the job.

    “Bill said, ‘Put my name behind those three. You’re gonna get your chance. This isn’t the right one, kid,’” Payton wrote.

    I guess I’d believe Sean Payton over Priesttj on this issue simply because Priesttj is so loyal to Al Davis.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Sean Payton played football over here.

  • hwnrdr

    RRAAAAIIIIIIIDDDEEEERRRRRRSSS!!!!
    Ed Teach….good note and I think that everyone should keep your post somewhere so that they can refer back to it from time to time!