Raiders-49ers postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, August 28th, 2010 at 10:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes, quotes and observations following the Raiders’ 28-24 loss to the 49ers Saturday night at the Coliseum:
– Here is how coach Tom Cable responded when asked if he expected Jason Campbell to be available for the season opener after being sidelined by a stinger following a sack by Travis LaBoy.
“Yeah, I do. At this point it does not seem to be a serious issue.”
A “stinger,” or “burner” is described as a “`nerve injury resulting from trauma to the neck and shoulder. Its primary symptom is burning pain radiating down one upper extremity.”
It can be a brief injury or something that can take weeks to heal.
Campbell admitted that as he was lying on the field he was a lot more concerned than when he addressed reporters following he game.
“It felt a lot worse at the time that it happened, but thank God … they don’t think it’s going to be really, really serious,” Campbell said. “But at the same time it’s something we’ve got to take care of before the season starts.”
In Campbell’s case, it’s a concern because stingers tend to be a recurring injury and it’s not the first time he’s had one.
“Yeah, I had one before. It felt a little bit more than a stinger at the time,’’ Campbell said. “Just trying to take (precautions). Trying to get up. At the same time, I couldn’t really feel a lot because it was down the back of my neck a little bit. We went to get it X-rayed to see what’s going on.
“Usually I recover pretty fast. Right now there’s no timetable. The thing is just to improve and continue to keep getting better. We don’t know the timetable or anything, but at the same time, I haven’t really missed any time before.” At the time of his injury, Campbell was 6 of 8 for 93 yards with a quarterback rating of 113.0, including a gorgeous game-opening eight-play, 81-yard drive.
“I thought I was doing great,’’ Campbell said. “I felt we were doing what we needed to do. Took the first drive down there and scored. Penalties hurt us after that.’’
–Bush fractured his left thumb on his seventh and final carry. He gained 23 yards and scored a touchdown on a 1-yard run.
“A safety came down, instead of getting my legs he got my hand and the ball,’’ Bush said. “That’s part of the game.’’
Bush said he wouldn’t know his status until he talked the medical staff Sunday, but it wasn’t an encouraging sight to see Michael Bennett tying his shoes in the locker room. He said he’s never played with a broken bone his hand before but noted optimistically, “It’s just the hand, hopefully I’ll be back, I mean, a hand to a leg is totally different. I broke my leg and I bounced back from that and I’ll do the same with my hand.’’
– -If Kyle Boller had drawn even in the race to be Campbell’s backup, Bruce Gradkowski hit the third-quarter turn on a dead sprint to pull back ahead.
Gradkowski completed 14 of 22 passes for 202 yards, touchdowns passes of74 yards to Louis Murphy and 27 yards to Zach Miller, no interceptions, and a 123.7 quarterback rating.
The first touchdown came in the final two minutes of the first half to put the Raiders within 17-14, and then he opened the second half with a 72-yard, nine-play drive which culminated in the throw to Miller.
If that wasn’t enough, Gradkowski had a deep heave drop through the hands of Todd Watkins inside the 5-yard line on fourth-and-9 from the 40-yard line and 1:14 to play. Watkins attempted to take the pass in over his shoulder and couldn’t reel it in.
“I haven’t been out there so it was good to get the feel of the first team,’’ Gradkowski said. “It was good to play almost three quarters. It was really good to get back out there and get a feel.’’
For any of you who think Gradkowski is making a run at Campbell for the starting role, here was how Cable assessed his performance:
“Bruce Gradkowski was one of the bright spots in terms of going in there and having some efficiency and move the club around fairly well,’’ Cable said. “I think that’s what you want from your backup quarterback and he showed himself very well that way.’’
Backup quarterback.
– The 49ers rushed for 165 yards on 33 carries, with the first team defense getting gashed for big plays (Frank Gore’s 49-yard run) and the reserves getting hit for a lot of little ones.
“I didn’t think we tackled particularly well tonight,’’ Cable said. “We had plenty of guys where we needed them. I just did not think early we tackled very well at all.’’
– Here’s the positive spin:
“Would love to win the football game without any question but more than anything we learned a lot about ourselves tonight,’’ Cable said. “We have a chance to have a very good football team but we have to do it our way.
“We have to do it all out all the time and I think there’s too many ups and downs in this football game for us to be who we need to be to succeed. A lot to learn from it, and that’s a good thing. I’m glad it happened now as opposed to a few weeks from now.’’
It’s worth noting Richard Seymour was rested because of his triceps injury.
– The early review on rookie center Jared Veldheer, starting in place of Samson Satele:
“I think you have to look at the film for that. I can remember one, there was a run through by a linebacker, (Patrick) Willis, one time that was on him but overall I think he directed the protections well,’’ Cable said. “He really didn’t show up as the game went on so that’s a good sign. But we’ll have to look at the film.
Cable, of course, wanted to see more film.
– Raiders quarterbacks were 20 of 30 for 295 yards and that included four or five dropped passes of varying degrees of difficulty.
– No return specialists stepped forward to do anything of note. The longest punt return was 11 yards by Johnnie Lee Higgins on a kick that he fielded at the 4-yard line rather than let bounce in the end zone.
Phillip Adams wasn’t even listed on the flip card as a specialist for the 49ers, but had an 83-yard punt return for a touchdown in which he wasn’t touched.
Ken Jurovich of the 49ers had a 48-yard kickoff return one play after Sebastian Janikowski’s touchback was nullified because Higgins was offsides.
– Linebacker Rolando McClain led the Raiders with eight tackles and made a few plays but was victimized on a few others.
–The Raiders played it fairly straight defensively, which everyone expected they would, given their regular-season game against the 49ers in October.
– Attendance was announced at 42,248, which of course represents tickets sold and in no way reflected the actual amount of fans in the park.
– Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight’s live chat.
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August 28th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
not last
August 28th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
MIKE BUSH BREAKS HIS HAND!!!!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/pre_season_2010
August 28th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Shoulda know Jerry’s all up on it! Awww man! dammbit!!! Looks like we may keep Rock AND Bennett?
can he play with a cast? I don’t know…aaaaagh! S*t nite all around!
August 28th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
6-10 my friends…..
August 28th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Johnie Lee might have played himself right off the team…too many mistakes for a 3rd yr player, off sides, punt fielded inside the 10 (remeber last years fumble inside the 10), sad, cause he seems like a nice kid, but TOO many mistakes…
we need to find a return man, NOW!
August 28th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Thats excatly what I saw. They played so damn vanilla on offense and defense. Not that I blame them mind you but it was obvious.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
You know, it’s probably good for them that they got outplayed this time around. They did well to capitalize on the Bears’ weaknesses. But they needed to see what it’s like to go up against a solid offensive line, an aggressive defense led by a monster like Patrick Willis, and an offense with a few established big-time playmakers.
Hopefully they know what they did wrong and can come back stronger. The defense in particular had played pretty well before tonight, and had their moments against the 49ers. But for the most part its a young group of players (especially without Richard Seymour around) who are still learning their roles. So maybe getting lit up on some long runs in the pre-season is not always such a bad thing, as long as the players learn from it and adjustments are made.
That said, in spite of Mario Henderson’s blown play I think this was the offensive line’s best outing as a group.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Thats excatly what I saw. They played so damn vanilla on offense and defense. Not that I blame them mind you but it was obvious.
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Not gonna show their A game in pre season.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Its never good to get outplayed so lets nip that in the bud
August 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
7,. Was it? Lot of penalties again. Pears needs to go go go…
August 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Marshawn Lynch, anyone?
August 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
11. Isn’t he injured?
August 28th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
On the bright side, I do think we found a FB. Reece seems to be embracing that role pretty good. Which means I have to retract my previous statement of us finding another FB. I think he will be fine and once Lawton comes back, we have our 2 FBs.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
7,. Was it? Lot of penalties again. Pears needs to go go go…
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Yes, but I also thought the offensive line was truly terrible in the first two games so that’s not saying much.
I agree with you on Pears. I’d love to see them make a trade for another tackle. Matt Light, Jared Gaither, Marcus McNeil? Unfortunately, Cable seems to like his guys…
August 28th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
11. Isn’t he injured?
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He’ll be back by week 1 or 2, I think.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I still call 8-8. This defense will get better as the season goes along.
Al must address the O-line next year.
The Raiders will struggle again offensively because of the O-line.
Things are getting better though.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
# EMRaiders Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
On the bright side, I do think we found a FB. Reece seems to be embracing that role pretty good. Which means I have to retract my previous statement of us finding another FB. I think he will be fine and once Lawton comes back, we have our 2 FBs.
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I’d rather see Tonga make the roster than Lawton. Tonga is mostly a blocker, but can catch a little. Lawton can’t block…
Marcel Reece is a pretty exciting player, though. Always nice to see a FB get involved.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Please please please put JFord on ST’s and be done with it. Hr and PR with JLH who seems to make a stupid play every 10 plays.
Johnnie DON”T FIELD PUNTS AT THE 3 YARD LINE!! DAMN!!
That is an automatic drive stopper and gives the other team field position. WAKE UP!!
August 28th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
I’m just throwing this out there. Is there any chance in Raiderhell that we could package McFadden, Howard, JLH, Boller, Carlisle, Routt, and anybody else for some Oline help, a RB, a vet WR and a draft pick for next year?
August 28th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Good point on Tonga, not really sure, but if that’s the case, I’m down for that.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Priest-or N.Miller who looked good last year before getting injured.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Wonder if 1st cuts will bring any surprises-ie. JLH,Watkins,N.Miller,etc.-or will they be the guys we never heard of?I’m guessing no names so some of the bubble skill players can play most of the Seattle game.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
dont like the holdup of ford on returns myself. defense wasnt aggressive at all this game. the pass rush didnt much but the coverage was pretty good. ware might make the team with wmcfadden. i think we will struggle with fast and physical 34 defenses especially running the ball. i would also like to see us run more with a fb lead.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
We are in trouble. Im not feeling so warm and fuzzy…
August 28th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
# Coach Elkins Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
6-10 my friends…..
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0-16 if Hue calls plays like he did tonight.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
where the hell was god damn wimbley, scott, and this god damn fierce defense??? where the ufkc were they today???
August 28th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Armond,I doubt we’ve seen much of what we will see once the real games start-on Off. or Def..
August 28th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Thats excatly what I saw. They played so damn vanilla on offense and defense. Not that I blame them mind you but it was obvious.
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Not gonna show their A game in pre season.
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BS. Both teams were trying to win tonight. You could see it. The vanilla Raiders scheme you’re talking about is their system, period.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
i left at the end of the 3rd and was proud of what we put out… but the Defense will give some big ones to chris johnson come week 1
August 28th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
McClain got pushed around on that big run, he had the deer in the headlights feel, I just turned 21 last month what am I doing here, thing going on. We’re asking a hell of a lot of this young man, in time he will be an outstanding MLB, just needs experience and the confidence and muscle memory that comes with it. Its like he’s analyzing what to do, but the NFL is very much faster than the SEC. He needs to learn to know what to do at NFL speed with out having to think about it.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
lefty im pissed that they would rather have figurs take away returns from nmiller.yamon hasnt shown much as a returner and for some reason lil nicky gets in the game way 2 late. also dont like how the refs fooked us over in the preseason. 2 bs calls on 4th down and a td that was never scored. kam wimberly was held right in front of the refs in the 1rst qtr and they missed that call. there were several other holds the whiners got away with. oh and that super mario penalty was full of sh!t.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
i think this game wont define the season but something that seems consistent is that we give up big plays every game…
August 28th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
I agree about Figurs.Actually can’t see him making the team but since we don’t have insight to what our couches see,who knows.As for the penalties,that’s part of being a Raider fan-you know we aren’t going to get the benefit of the doubt-or the obvious in some cases.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Nick Miller is not in the plans….McClain is only as good as the line in front of him…the offense rises and falls with the o-line.
Today was a terrible go for the o-line by the way…got the QB injured, linebackers knifing through with no resistance.
Terrible. And the penalties looked just like prior years.
They needed this game….realize they have a lot of work to do.
Hopefully the Raiders have a better understanding of who should and SHOULDN’T be on the field
August 28th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
# raiderrej Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
i think this game wont define the season but something that seems consistent is that we give up big plays every game…
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That’s going to happen when you run a system that primarily uses one deep safety. Especially when that safety is not a good tackler.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
The Raiders were in full melt-down near the end of the second half.
Kudos to Gradkowski for salvaging the situation, without him, this loss would have been a lot worse.
This one didn’t count.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 am
So, did anyone else catch Javon Walker’s big touchdown reception from Sage Rosenfels?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:11 am
Opening drive the Oline looked good,especially Veldheer on the power runs up the gut.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 am
people its only preseason. i know its big for us because unlike the other good teams we’ve been one of the worst teams in the league so its big for us but relax. mcclain made rookie mistakes like every rookie makes but at least we saw him make a few plays that morrison rarely did he’ll get better from what i heard he’s intelligent and an avid watcher of film. we’ve never had a draft pick like him and i’m sure he’ll fix his mistakes and become the outsanding mike lb we drafted him for. mcfadden showed some of his playmaking ability but come on guys some of those runs weren’t his fault due to horrid blocking. offensive line looked better under veldheer and he made rookie mistakes but other than that he was a major upgrade over satele and morris. we’ll be fine we are the most unpredictable team in the league and anything can happen but personally i haven’t felt optimistic and positive about any raider team like this one in the last 7 years. we’ll be fine. we just need to fix the o line and the run d will be fine when seymour comes back. we dont need another pessimist like real madden raider on this blog.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 am
# lefty12 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:11 am
Opening drive the Oline looked good,especially Veldheer on the power runs up the gut.
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Definitely. The best run blocking I’ve seen out of the starters yet.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:18 am
to tell you the truth i was extremely disappointed with huff and our lack of use of mitchell with the starters. huff still has a problem with open field tackling and we’re going to allow a lot of big plays if runners make it to the second level if huff is still a fs. i dont understand at all why mitchell once again again barely had action in the game. thats one of the few mistakes cable is doing not bringing mitchell into action and seeing what he could do.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:18 am
W-Mac played well in coverage, as did Routt.
That punt return for a touchdown really sucked.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Taz,
Mike Mitchell coverage skills are not as good as Huff or Branch.
Also, I am glad this preseason is over with. I have seen enough to konw that Michael Bush is the starter…when he goes down or out…this team loses.
The o-line IS NOT good enough to be primarily a pass offense…QBs will get killed
The penalties once again show how undisciplined the Raiders are.
And for the record…Eric Pears and Mario Henderson are doing their best job to make sure Jason Campbell never starts again!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:36 am
R McClain had a terrible game but:
Did Trevor Scott play?
Talk about a non factor in a game!
He went to the wrong gap, got blown up by smaller running backs blocking him, ran by the runner with the ball. Never heard his name called once.
Hey Tom it looks like your T Scott linebacker experiment is an utter failure!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:50 am
#32
giving up big plays ….maybe due to the fact of such a light hitting camp. hopefully when they start getting acclaimated to hitting and getting hit, they will improve.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:51 am
snb,
i know what you man but we have not seen enough of mitchell and what he can do. we can at least put him in 1st downs and huff in passing downs because huff is making the same mistakes he did since he was a rookie. im glad the preseason is over and i agree with you about bush being our runningback cuz this guy consistently gets 4-5 yards on 1st down which helps the offense.and i cant wait for how they unleash asomugha this season!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 am
I’m amazed. Why is there no yells for DMac’s head? I understand the blocking was not as great as it could have been but HE WAS TERRIBLE! He is not nor will he ever be an NFL RB.(PERIOD)!!! Move him to slot receiver now and cut our losses. Keep Bush Bennett & Cartwright as the RB’s. DMac couldn’t run out of a wet paper bag. Great hands, you bet. Good in the open, most times. Effective as a RB, NEVER.
Now, on to my next rant. Veldheer should be our starter at center. Yes, he needs to learn to spot blitzes and alike but he’s head & shoulders above Satele and I don’t even count Morris. He’s a smart kid and will pick it up quickly. We also need to move Walker to RG now. Find a new ORT now. Groom BCampbell for OLT.
Some people that can leave now include Pears, Figurs, Heard, Morris, Rodd, Watkins, Tonga, Joseph, Gunheim, Eugene,Thomas & Norris. That will be a good start.
If Gradkowski was the #3 QB coming into this game, he’s now the #2 QB. I don’t know if that means Boller or Brennan is on the bubble – probably Brennan.
I would have liked to win tonight but I’m willing to say their 3’s are better than our 3’s. Big deal. I think we can definitely be competitive with them when we meet again. I do believe the results will be different.
In Closing, DMAC to WR. That’s the ONLY place he can possibly succeed. Soon he will be known as DaBustus.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 am
#35
your right about the one deep safety thing……hello al, he is still contributing leaving his stamp on the team.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:57 am
post 35,
agreed 100% unless that safety is tyvon branch
August 29th, 2010 at 1:05 am
JB your are spot on.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:06 am
WTF do you guys care about winning a pre-season game. W’s are meaningless in the preseason. When Grad threw the 2nd TD, the Niners were still leaving their first unit in there. We scored 3 TD’s against their first units. At that moment, we were up 21-17 based on first units. That is what’s most important. How did the first units do against the other team? After 7 years, I can finally breathe a sigh of relief that we have an nfl caliber offense and a potentially very good D.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:07 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Today was a terrible go for the o-line by the way…got the QB injured, linebackers knifing through with no resistance.
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bro, we had a big discussion about McNabb and JC vs Grad. I told you that our Oline would still get either McNabb or JC killed. They did just that. Grad gives us the best option based on his mobility to bail out the line’s weakness.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:08 am
49-
but branch is not a favorite son
August 29th, 2010 at 1:10 am
aig, you are right, we are much improved and we have high hopes.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:11 am
For all those Raider Fans who were questioning Grad’s contribution to our org, I hope he finally convinced you what he can do with our team. Grad is the man based on the current Oline that he has. It took him one game to do what JC couldnt do for 2 games. Grad gives us the best chance to win and Al Davis may be half way right about the 1980 comparison. JC is Pastorini and Grad is Plunkett.
In Bruce I Trust.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:11 am
man i am just agreeing with everyone, grads’ mobility is like gannons.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:17 am
Hobs,
When Gannon arrived here, his mobility was what bailed the team out at the time until the Oline matured. Until our Oline is consistent, we need Grad back there. Jason will be knocked out again this year. #70 Walker gave up a sack today. I think Walker has avg 1 sack given up for every preseason game so far. Mario is avg but not elite. The rookie Center will make mistakes this year. That means we will for sure see both JC (Al Davis commitment) and Grad this year.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:18 am
it’s hard for anyone let alone an ego maniac like al to admitt when something isn’t what they think it is. i like campbell but i just think gradkowski is a more fiery leader whose ability to scramble is the difference. his pump fake on that miller td was gannon like. he just feels right to me. nothing against campbell really, he is serviceable but there is something not quite right there.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:19 am
Positives: Tommy Kelly in good playing condition; Campbell and Gradkowski are doing well. Negatives: Michael Bush with a broken left thumb. Let’s pray it’s not bad. DMAC is no better than a 2nd string running back. We have nobody to replace Bush. Other than Seabass, the special teams was pathetic. Can we find a return man?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:21 am
i am more concerned about the defense and how they call their plays.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Beach,
So true bro. Regardless of JC or Grad, I feel good about the QB position. I dont know why the same people that bash Grad are still so love with McSkinnyLeggs. Other than our kickers, spec team is a joke. They need to fire the spec team coach.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:23 am
that defense has a chance to be special if someone lets them be all they can be and not be what other teams expect us to be, if you know what i mean. think the eagles game last year in how we surprised them.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:25 am
Hobs,
I think the D will be fine. D Bryant is not the same as Seymour. Of the 3 teams we faced so far, the Niners have the best rushing O. All in all, their first units should have scored 13 points against our first unit. I dont count the spec team TD and I assume that they should have made the first FG. 13 points through 2.5 quarters is not bad against a playoff caliber team Niners.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:26 am
nite all
August 29th, 2010 at 1:28 am
Aig and Hobs, Think about it. We play these bums for real in less than 2 months. We couldn’t show too much on D tonight. I’m scared and concerned about stopping the run and Chris Johnson in Tennessee in 2 weeks!
August 29th, 2010 at 1:33 am
i think we really need to consider kevin m for a tryout at center, if nothing else to mentor jv.
i kind of have the feel that i had with the start of the gruden era, they are building on something here and consistencey with cable is so key. a lot of u don’t like him but he is doing well in handling the overall team and guys are playing for him. we could be playoff bound this year but next year superbowl should be focus, if everything stays in place and we have as good an off-season.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:37 am
beach this team just needs to be creative with game planning and forget what we are supposed to do because we are the raiders if you know what i mean. do what works to win.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:06 am
the problem with dhb catching the ball in his stomach is sooner or later that ball is going to bounce off his pads and into the hands of a defender for a td at the most unfortunate time, like with the afc west title at stake. at least he caught it. give props.
a lot of people keep blaming the safeties for our problems on d, but no matter who we have in there seems to suck….perhaps it’s the scheme and not the player. mm is not the answer, it’s just al’s scheme. be fair, i know a lot of u are al guys and maybe your paid to do that (free tickets anyone?).
August 29th, 2010 at 2:59 am
I tthink the team will be fine with better ST play….im still wondering why the havent fire the skinny guy ST sucked last year also after he took over from kiffins biotch
August 29th, 2010 at 3:21 am
I havent seen the game yet , Im 5 hours ahead of time but I am reading the post and Jerry plus tweets. To know what happen last night. I am surprised how fast some are starting a qb controversy and its Jason fault. I have posted a few times on here and the raiders still have the same issue. Offensive defensive line? What will we do if richard seymour gets hurt and we have to count on a young d line. There’s still time to pick up some players who can still play very well . Teams will trade vets plus cut vets who are good to make room for young studs. Al I hope your getting some help with monitoring other teams moves. Too many guys are slipping past us and thats not how it used to be. I watch the redskins trade for a tackle from new orleans and I knew we could have used him.
August 29th, 2010 at 3:25 am
And Tom Cable and Al should continue to draft players and let them smash each other during training camp like real powerhouse teams do. B-more smashes each other and if someone gets hurt they have another draftee available to continue power football. Why wait until the season starts to see if your team can block and open up wholes or even tackle . Thats just scary compared to the raiders teams the past couple years.
August 29th, 2010 at 4:13 am
don’t know if anyone is accusing jc of being at fault, some of just prefer what we see as a better option in grads. i see gannon in him and his ability to make something out of nothing. i think jc should be a great qb, i just prefer grads.
August 29th, 2010 at 4:26 am
Well Cable certainly squashed any potential quarterback controversy, didnt he?
Sounds to me like Campbell is going to be the guy, for better or worse. Time will tell if thats a good thing or not.
August 29th, 2010 at 4:46 am
It is a bit alarming to read about the Campbell and Bush injuries not to mention the score.
Gore’s 49yard run kind of looks like last year’s situation isn’t remedied yet.
Let’s face it, we’re playing rookies in primary roles and there are going to be mistakes. Plus Gore is actually a really good back and Seymour didn’t play.
Houston and McClain are going to be great players and should get better as the year goes on.
Campbell’s injury has to be disturbing for the player himself as well as us. That kind of thing can really get serious.
Bush just broke his thum on his left hand. People play with broken fingers.
Gradowski looks to be still very good. He’s got a little Gannon in him. We should be feeling good about the quarterback position.
Apart from having both Campbell AND Gradowski, there is absolutely NO Russell.
What’s not to like?
We almost certainly didin’t give anything away to the ’49’s since we play them this year and since they look to win their divison and be a factor this year, the Raiders are looking better than they have in a long time
August 29th, 2010 at 4:48 am
#1-too much man to man defense. #2-o-line still average at best.#3mcfadden is a stiff,looks like another bust.#4-still one of the worst tackling teams in the nfl.#5-chris johnson will run for 200 yards in week one.#6if this team wins 8 games it will be a friggin’ miracle.i’m not drinking the kool aid……#7-not enough discipline,and all this chatter about about a new outlook is just cheap talk
August 29th, 2010 at 4:52 am
cambell has a little gannon in him?maybe.0009% of gannon.sorry but cambell is not even close to gannon.you guys think he is that good?your insane…
August 29th, 2010 at 4:53 am
your right about bg though.smart but not a big arm
August 29th, 2010 at 4:56 am
no team in the nfl has fewer defensive looks than this team.too much man,not enough zone.al will never learn.team wins 6 games
August 29th, 2010 at 4:58 am
don’t get your hopes up about this year.be cynical and hope for the best,but prepare for another lost season
August 29th, 2010 at 5:34 am
Unfortunately I cant share in the optimism either. I like Jason Campbell, but Im not in love with the guy. I think Gradkowski is a better player and a better fit for this team. The guy has leadership qualities, and his enthusiasm is infectious. You can see him lift up the whole team when he takes the field. But, Al loves Campbell and apparently so does Cable. Jason is going to be the guy for better or worse, barring injury.
Our wideouts are weak other than Murphy, but Id like Murphy a lot more if he was our #2. Im still very skeptical about DHB. Anything we get out of him is a plus at this point. Zach Miller is a fine player, but when your go-to receiver is a tight end, youve got issues.
Ive given up on McFadden. The guy is simply not an NFL running back, period. Still getting ankle tackled and tripping over his own feet. Ive never, NEVER seen an NFL running back with such poor balance. Time to move DMC to receiver and hope that we can get something out of him there. As a RB, he is useless. Bush has a broken thumb, the o-line still cant run block. Their pass blocking isnt much better.
The defense looks like the same old Raiders defense, the d-line has been getting after the QB, and our secondary is solid. But we still cant stop the run.
I was about to gag listening to Papa last night using Seymours absence as an excuse for the poor run play. Please, Seymour started all 16 games last season and this team finished 29th against the run. That and he didnt record a sack in the final 10 games. Seymour sucks, yeah I said it. If there is a more overpaid and overrated player in the NFL right now, Id like to know who. But we had to trade a first round pick and then franchise the guy, because you just know how Al loves his big stars and Pro Bowl players and past Super Bowl winners. One more “great player” for him to gloat about.
Speaking of “great players”, anyone see the graphic during last nights game about all the great Raider receivers in history? Yeah, Lance Alworth was on the list, even though he never played for the Raiders. And so was Randy Moss. Ugh, just ugh, this team has become a total parody of itself. Its sad.
I dont know, I hate to be a Negative Nancy but im just not feeling it. This looks like another 5 win team to me.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:04 am
[...] for 46 yards…With a stellar performance last night, Raiders quarterback Bruce Gradkowski sprinted ahead of Kyle Boller in the battle to back-up [...]
August 29th, 2010 at 6:10 am
And the love fest for Gradkowski continues. Typical that you guys show after Campbell gets hurt to explain how much better Grads can play.
Here is a clue. Campbell had a 117 QB rating when he got hurt.
He opened the game with a scoring drive for the second week in a row, but yet you guys say he has no leadership skills?
You guys act like Campbell was having a bad game before Gradkowski came in. He had 2 of his drives stall because of penalties and then he got HURT.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:12 am
it’s better than a five win team and we had no business winning five with russell under center. the teams attitude is something new. they can win, if al doesn’t contribute anymore than what he has done. if they scrap the vanilla al defense and let the coaches call the plays with what the situation warrants, they will win more than they lose. however, if cable can’t get al to losen the grip of what he wants done then we win 8. al only wants to win with his plays, otherwise he’s a fool in THIS day and age.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:12 am
The Raider/Niner game will be on NFL channel at 11:00pm tonight, Eastern Time, for those who didn’t see it. BTW, as sloppy as this game was, we were one dropped pass away from winning it, in spite of our O-line trying to give it away…..
August 29th, 2010 at 6:14 am
You have to be out of your mind to believe that Seymour sucks. Such a comment is completely ludicrious!
Grads is a high quality backup. Don’t get it confused. IF Hue came his foot on SFs throat the Campbell led offense would have continued running up the scoreboard. But he let go to check out DMC. Your argument is near frivilous because if Hue did keep his foot down you would not have said a word.
Sure DHB needs to keep showing what he’s got; but too many people are making an issue if he catches a ball using his body. LISTEN you know nothings …If the ball is coming straight at you over the middle chances are you are NOT going to catch it with your hands out. ITS THE MIDDLE!!!! You catch the ball and prepare for the hit.
Its soooo funny as I was watchin the game on my PC and had the cowgirls vs texans on the big screen I saw Roy Williams catch the ball just like DHB did running through the middle of the defense not soon before DHB made the same sort of catch. A CATCH IS A CATCH!
This is the first time they’ve really targeted him and he looks better than Murphy out there. And you would be hard pressed to say I’m lying about that. Even that short ball he got from Campbell I saw the guys strength ..almost broken the tackle and looking to turn it up field for the TD. This guy is going to be dangerous
August 29th, 2010 at 6:15 am
look you prefer campbell, i prefer gradkowski. it’s just something i see in grads and obviously don’t see in jc. jc is a good qb and certainly better than jam he will do fine, i just prefer gradkowski cause i like the energy he brings. both are other teams retreads just grads seems to fit better with the guys.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Yesterday’s game showed why left offensive tackle is the most important position on the football field.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:20 am
lets admit to ourselves that gannon was a high quality back up until he hit the raiders and took control and i see the same in grads, he controls that group of 11 and to ME it appears they respond to it better.
some of you guys anaylze things too much, you look at what you think is talent instead of intangibles which is a typical al davis thing and that is why we draft the likes of russell. until you get the idea that some people have what it takes to succeed regardless of arm strength and speed you will get big whiffs.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Veldheer is waaayyy better than Satele when it comes to pass and run blocking. The pockets were beutiful that 1st drive. Then SF started getting in their delayed blitzes and what have you.
That is what scares me about starting Veldheer. I would not be pissed if Satele still starts because he knows the coverages better than the kid right now.
I don’t think Veldheer can hack it at LT with his short arms. Could be wrong but Gallery had the same issue. Veldheer getting worked by Peppers sort of gave that clue as well.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:22 am
it’s all good until the ball bounces off his pads and into the arms of the chargers defender to kill the drive that wins the afc west. bad technique poisons the stew. why bother teaching the correct way to catch a ball?
August 29th, 2010 at 6:27 am
i don’t understand why people continue to defend crappy players? if russell was here, it would still be it’s not his fault yada yada yada. what possible motivation do you have for defending al’s guys? dhb is al’s guy, no if’s and’s or but’s. i applaud him for having a break out game, lol but come on dude has some serious work to put in despite what he has already done and that is commendable, at least he is working at it unlike jr.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 6:22 am
it’s all good until the ball bounces off his pads and into the arms of the chargers defender to kill the drive that wins the afc west. bad technique poisons the stew. why bother teaching the correct way to catch a ball?
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Really Hobs …I’m not saying its not an issue. I just think right now its looked at like an eagle how he catches every ball. No WR not even great WRs catches every ball with their hands. They just don’t.
He is catching with his hands more from the limited views we got and also from the reports. But don’t expect every ball to arrive where he can or even should stick his hands 2 feet in front of him to catch.
TO, one of the best WRs to play the game, yet has some of the worse hands in the league.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Not necessarily equivocating TO to DMC …just pointing out how critical we are being here. A catch is a catch and the young man works very hard to get better. If this game was any indication we he has a bright future in front of him.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Good Morning Nation!
August 29th, 2010 at 6:35 am
dhb is not TO. this guy needs to be doing it better because he was the first receiver drafted last year. he should be solid with few mistakes, he’s not a development player at that high a draft pick. those types of mistakes will cost you sooner or later and he needs to drop those bad habits right away. in no way shape or form does he look better than murphy to me and i like to be a realist, f what ever dhb makes, it’s not coming outta my pocket. use who’s best if you want to win. keep it real.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:40 am
i already commended his breakout game gave props, but like i said he needs to do it better than everone else considering where he was drafted and the players they could have had instead of him. they didn’t draft him to be a delvelopmental player, they could have still got him in the second round if they really wanted. your type of argument infuriates me because it’s just to defend al’s scholarship players. remember dudley? man, intangibles are what’s needed to play football and to be impact players, what are dhb’s intangibles?
August 29th, 2010 at 6:42 am
I’m glad to hear about McClain making some plays and getting burned on a few too.
I’d rather hear he’s getting burned on plays than him disappearing altogether.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:44 am
DHB is a whole lot better than last year!
August 29th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Just watched highlights on NFLN …the long Gore run went straight through Seymours gap. Huff gave Gore a good shot but Gore is just too “balanced” unlike our guy to go down. The Center got up field and blocked out McClain.
Hobs – Dude I know the guy needs work. No doubt about it. He would even tell you that. But ppl here …once they have it out for you just wont stop no matter how good the kid does or improves. Who knows, the kid may have a better year than Crabtree. But ppl still will be skeptical.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Its the old arguement ..is it the LBs that must shed the blocks of the OLinemen or is it the DLinemen that must keep the Olinemen from getting to that level and on the LBs.
My point of view. It may have been a different scenario if Seymour was in. And McClain has a resposibility to shed the block no matter who it is.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:53 am
That 3rd & 15 conversion Grads & DHB connnected on was pretty freakin’ nice.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I would use Kyle Boller as bait….wait and see if anyone takes it!
August 29th, 2010 at 6:57 am
yeah, dhb is better than last year, but taht is not saying much, until he proves he was a top ten pick you and him will have to listen to it. has shown dediacation which is a plus but got to have the numbers worthy of a number one draft pick. that’s just the way it is.
August 29th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Campbell,Grads>PurpleDrank I almost jumped out of room on first DHB catch! Still to many big runs given up on D.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 am
terrapin, i would have to agree with you that was a nice catch by dhb. give him his props on that one.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:03 am
My favorite play from last night!!!!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a17ddb/Murphy-74-yard-TD-rec?module=HP_video
August 29th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Gradkowski will get some starts this year, either through injury or performance.
You can book that.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:04 am
I’m not saying i disagree at all. I just think ppl need to relax a bit and let this thing work itself out. Overly critical is all I’m saying.
Now when it comes to DMC ..he’s a RB ..he should be lights out RIGHT NOW! Not neccessarily saying DHB shouldn’t but the nature of the position say that can take a year or two. Same goes for the QB position.
DHB needs to tryout Yoga …get some damn balance man!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:05 am
DHB looked so much more confidant and fluid in his routes.
Night and day from last night.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:06 am
“DHB needs to tryout Yoga …get some damn balance man!”
Correction: DMC!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:09 am
DHB needs this!
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August 29th, 2010 at 7:10 am
The McFadden defenders say we need to use him like Reggie Bush.
I agree to a point. Bush’s first 3 years he had over 100 carries (twice over 150) and never averaged more than 3.8 ypc.
Last year, he had a whole 70 carries (about 30% of what Fargas had) and averaged over 5 ypc.
Less is more with these type of guys. About 4-5 carries a game, and about the same amount of passes.
McFadden’s most carries in a game came against Denver last year. You know……the 3 fumble game.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:12 am
What was Jackson thinking…having McFadden run up the middle!!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 am
4x!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I think Hue will get this one right. He actually did a good job testing out his players last night. He kept feeding DMC to see what he had. And you can now see that Bush is the better option because he’s more consistent picking up those hard to get yards.
Although the line not picking up the blitzes screwed the results.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 am
ppl are going to be critical of him because of where he was drafted, it is what it is……life is not fair but this kid would have been there in the next round and nothing would be said about his development. i hope the young man overcomes it. i am no fan of dmac, he needs to be doing it better then most as well, but it’s what we got to work with, use his strengths like charlie garner, out of the backfield.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:17 am
use his strengths like charlie garner, out of the backfield.
Are we the only ones that see this??
August 29th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Erik Pears….you need to go!!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 7:28 am
I understand having to keep the defense “honest”, but only to a point.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Bottom line, the 49ers are universally praised as a tough, physical, up and coming team ready for the playoffs and yet…
With most of the starters in the field, the Raiders still managed to be leading into the 3rd quarter (then it was all reserves).
The 49ers highly regarded starting defensive unit was victimized for 24 points.
Here’s something that impressed me last night, after the the 49ers took a 10 point lead, the Raiders fought their way back, something that rarely happened in the past because:
a) a double digit lead used to seem to be insurmountable.
b) the team would usually looked beaten at that point.
So, to watch them stay in the game and turn it around vs their starting defense was a pleasant surprise.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:32 am
I have to watch this tennessee game. from the score looks like they got handled by the panthers
August 29th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Contract Information for Darren McFadden
6/5/2008: Signed a six-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $26 million guaranteed, including a $6.4 million “log” bonus. 2009: $3,281,250 (+ $5 million roster bonus), 2010: $3,937,500, 2011: $4,593,750, 2012: $5.25 million, 2013: $660,000, 2014: Free Agent
………………………..this is all that matters,this is why he needs to go.
August 29th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Interference on the Buc’s cheerleaders vs. Jags!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a171b7/Cheerleader-goal-line-stand?module=HP_headlines
August 29th, 2010 at 8:12 am
huff sucs, jlh sucs, eugene sucs, cable sucs, cable is the kind of person who tells his players how great they are even when they flat out suc, cant stand that kind of coaching especially when your talking about big bank fotball players. i dont even like it when my kids get told how good they did after getting there asses handed to them.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:18 am
aaaand once again Gradkowski had no problem making plays behind a porous offensive line.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:21 am
#127……lmfao!
August 29th, 2010 at 8:22 am
i didnt care much for grad, but after last night those balls were tight on time and catchable, i wouldnt be mad if he started over jc, he made plays, even though that miller t.d. was all miller scoring with that fool on him for 10 yards.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:23 am
It was pretty comical how bad Walker and Pears were last night. In spite of them, we still put up points.
DMac didn’t fumble so I’d call it a successful night for him.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:32 am
We need a KR guy.
Time to hand that over to Ford and get on with it.
Figurs and Notwright need to be cut this Tuesday.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am
its not legal crack head..
August 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Oline looked good in the first qtr. In the second was up and down. They would look good 1 play questionable the next. 9ers seemed to do a lot more exotic stuff on defense than we did that muchh is certain.
Veldheer look good, in pass protection and run blocking. He blew a couple of assignments, thats to be expected from a rookie however. in my opinion he should start day 1…
August 29th, 2010 at 8:44 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 8:32 am
We need a KR guy.
Time to hand that over to Ford and get on with it.
Figurs and Notwright need to be cut this Tuesday.
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Notwright is not going anywhere, Bush is injured.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:46 am
fat kidd Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am
its not legal crack head..
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It’s legal in L.A.!! I got my med card….man was that the best decision I’ve made in years!!
August 29th, 2010 at 8:53 am
FatKidd…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAHrNs6v3U
August 29th, 2010 at 8:54 am
DMac didn’t have a chance on the second series. For some reason, Henderson and Reece get confused on who should block Willis, and he’s dropped for a 2 yd loss by an untouched Willis, lol.
Meyers dropping the ball on 3rd down to kill the drive hurt.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Meyers…sshiiiishhh!! Bet he won’t do that again!
August 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Veldheer missed Willis on 1st play of the next series and DMac is dropped for a 3 yd loss.
Next play was a big pass play to DMac called back by Louis Murphy penalty not lining up correctly.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
LOL!
McFadden tripped up by no one on the next play. gain of 2 yds. Should’ve been a lot more as it was well blocked.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am
morning,
1. We can be rest assured that V will start at Center. an Al Davis order.
2. JC will start but Grad will relieve him when he gets killed this year. The Raiders will be fine with either guy so I feel good about our team.
3. Mike Huff just learned last nite that he is not MM34 so he better wraps his arm on the runner next time.
4. Our special team coach needs train better because we are not getting any running lanes or coverage.
5. Our first string vs their first string lasted for 2.5 quarters and the score should have been 21-13. I give the niners 3 points for that missed fg and take away the return TD if you want to know how the teams moved against each other.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Fat Kidd,
Maybe you should go back to school too.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am
J, good thing its still preseason. Hopefully they could get it out of their systems before season starts!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:05 am
jwigg i agree on everything u said and vegas dmc highest carry total was 21 for 164 his rookie year. this sh!t about him getting 5 carries a game is stupid. whether yall like it or not he is a rb and a part of this offense. they have to use him and they should use him how he was used at arkansas. up the middle outside in the wildcat and on endarounds. let return kicks and even throw a pass in the redzone. can our oline start shovin people aside like other teams?
August 29th, 2010 at 9:07 am
3. Mike Huff just learned last nite that he is not MM34 so he better wraps his arm on the runner next time.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a17e3a/Gore-bounces-off-for-a-big-gain?module=HP_video
August 29th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Did Trevor Scott play?
Talk about a non factor in a game!
He went to the wrong gap, got blown up by smaller running backs blocking him, ran by the runner with the ball. Never heard his name called once.
Hey Tom it looks like your T Scott linebacker experiment is an utter failure!!!!!!!
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Well said.
Might be time to send him back to nickel DE exclusively.
Tom Howard might still have some life.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Bring on Grads! More heart and passion than JC. We need a leader like Gannon.
Oh, and way to go Mario, fat ass!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I’m gonna be a bit controversial here, but I’ve been watching Goethal and McClain quite a bit in these games, and I know there’s a big difference between first and second/third units standard of play, but I think Goethal could be a bit better than McClain.
Awareness/Gap-awareness on rushing plays especially, a knack for it, not getting caught up in blockers, and having a bit of oomph in his hits. McClain has done good things, not dissing him completely, but he does get lost a bit on his bad plays and seems to lumber around a little.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
ill give grads credit for what he did. he is clearly #2 not boller. people are sayin his mobility is best for this oline but yall forget that campbell showed that same kind of mobility the 1rst 2 games. grads wouldve got fooked up the same same as jc and probably been hurt worse. didnt super mario get him squashed last year against washington? this grads love affair is just ridiculous. our oline man for man just doesnt matchup well enuff to dominate. they physically as a unit dont have it.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Cut Eugene, Williams, and Cooper.
Start Branch and MM34 at Ss.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
J, good thing its still preseason. Hopefully they could get it out of their systems before season starts!
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Wassup fellas!
I don’t know. Veldheer missed one block, but other than that it’s the same ole, same ole. I guess Reece is new, but it seems to me that Henderson missed Willis. Why he chose to help Gallery on that seal reaks of ZBS non sense.
We need to have our guy identify a man, and go get him.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:15 am
MM34 sounds like a mixed/energy drink of some kind!
Something that will put you on your @$$!!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Probowl for Zach Miller this year!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a17dda/Miller-27-yard-TD-rec
August 29th, 2010 at 9:17 am
I’ll pass on Bob, but I’ll take LL anywhere you want.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:18 am
this grads love affair is just ridiculous.
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I’ll have to say that Grads certainly moved up my depth chart. The guy has something about him in the Silver and Black. I’ll give him that. Knows the offense, VERY confident, and pretty accurate.
Have no problem with him if he has to play, but JC has done nothing to disappoint and is still my choice for #1.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
How many times are we going to let Willis come in UNBLOCKED?
This time Langston Walker is playing to Henderson left as a LLT??? Whatever he was, he just didn’t even realize Willis was right next to him while he was running backwards. Hilarious stuff.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:22 am
PB:
Lechler
Nnamdi
Seymour
Z Miller
Condo
Maybe Branch too. He had 1 vote last year.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Zach Miller gets handled by Manny Lawson, drops Bush in the backfield.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
LaVoy takes out our QB on the next play. Our blocking by needs a lot of work. All of them. It’s always one person making a mistake.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Branch is ranked in the top 200 NFL players!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:25 am
j its not even about him playin its that people act like he now has some kind of mobility that jc doesnt have when he just showed us that in 2 games.im glad bg played well cuz i wasnt too thrilled with boller. bottomline is our offense needs alot of work with chaz and dmc out. we need those 2 out there and like campbell said they havent been able get everyone 2gether. we wont establish a true offensive identity until we see all of our pieces.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I agree with what MR was saying last night about not going deep on 4th and long with over a minute left on the clock and a timeout. Hue/Grads MUST get a first down right there instead of bomb one to the end-zone. I’ll give Hue a pass because it’s pre-season, hopefully he can iron out some play-calling mistakes before the regs.
I give Grads some credit for throwing Watkins a very catchable pass, but would have liked to have seen better clock management in the two minuet drill.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Armond,
The things are offense needs to clean up are Oline assignments, and 3rd down drops. I think the play calling and personell are fine, but things like Willis not even being blocked and Murphy and Meyers dropping passes are what holding us back.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
The OL Guru needs to fix the OL, or he should be fired!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
as for the defense we have a new starting front 7 with some inexperienced players mixed in there. i expect some confusion and inconsistency from time 2 time. dont think the run d will be fixed right away but it will be improved. seymours absense makes a big difference. our pass rush is our strength so when it disappears its tougher on us until that run d gets straightened out. and yes willis was left unblocked 2 many times but that was dmacs fault 2. wait till brian sees this he gon pitch a real fit.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Not too worried about the Defense. I think Seymour coming back and Henderson moving ahead of Bryant on the depth chart will make a HUGE difference.
Although I do agree that the Trevor Scott at WLB isn’t giving us much.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:33 am
The defensive intensity from the last 2 games was non existtent
August 29th, 2010 at 9:35 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Armond,
The things are offense needs to clean up are Oline assignments, and 3rd down drops. I think the play calling and personell are fine, but things like Willis not even being blocked and Murphy and Meyers dropping passes are what holding us back.
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dont count out false starts and lining up wrong. murphy has done that a lil 2 much. those drops are killers.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Scott disappeared last night, but the previous two games he’d played well. Still like him better than Howard, who isn’t a strong tackler and seems to have taken a step back in his coverage skills too.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Morning gang.
Big John didn’t look to bad last night. He seemed to hold up at the POA pretty well. Got off some blocks…etc
I looks as though in order to spring Dmac on a running play, it will almost have to be blocked perfectly.
Agreed that T Scott didn’t flash much last night.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Really focusing on Trevor Scott at LB to start the 2nd half. Don’t see how he helps us there. Pass rush specialist only.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:41 am
dhb looks like andre johnson out there. guess he did get up to 220 and a powerful 220 at that. he spun out with ease and almost ran in for a td. could care less about catching with his gut. he dropped 1 caught 3. glad they made him a part of the offense. the oline is the key to our season. we have playmakers at every skill position. its time they kick azz. my solution for st is to make dmc/ford kr and let ford handle pr. use dmc in everyway let bush be the pounder get reece active in the pass game and use more of a moving pocket.and chaz get yo sh!t straight to be that 3rd posession wr we need. also stop callin cartwright notwright. he is officially known as bokim woodbine aka cantgetwright.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Scott disappeared last night, but the previous two games he’d played well.
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Are you saying that because the defense overall played pretty well? I don’t recall Scott making one play as a LB. Nickel DE? Absolutely makes plays.
There was a poster who called out Scott last week and went on a limb and predicted Ricky Brown starts there..
August 29th, 2010 at 9:45 am
I think Veldheer, if he doesn’t start against Tenn at C, will be with the 1st group, somewhere, no later than the 3rd game of the Season.
He looked good to me last night, and should only get better.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
he is officially known as bokim woodbine aka cantgetwright
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ROFLMAO…..
August 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
I don’t know about DMac returning kicks. He;ll be fine as a RB if we get our Oline together. Get him matched up with a LB or S in the passing game!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Good to see DHB make some plays. Looks as though we can get some production out of Him this year.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I think Veldheer, if he doesn’t start against Tenn at C, will be with the 1st group, somewhere, no later than the 3rd game of the Season.
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Agreed!
A good indication of that is him coming out of the game with the 1st unit. Never played with the other scrubs.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Get him matched up with a LB or S in the passing game!
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That’s where he’ll be most dangerous. But, he’s got to be able to run enough to make it all work.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:49 am
DMAC is a straight line runner with zero swivel, use him how NO uses RBUSH…
August 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Veldheer should be starting day 1 IMHO…
August 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
I love it!!! Campbell is a pro and is getting better every week. DHB had his best day yet, he has improved, its not just hype! He & murphy may never have tim brown type hands, but becuase of their talent and work ethic they will form a dangerous threat as they mature and get better. Dmac looked very good, bush pounded the rock, reminiscent of wheatly kaufman. Dmac looked the best he has since the kc game!
Veldheer was a major upgrade, one missed assignment but we cant expect a rookie to be perfect. I would rather have him learn on the job at this point, rather than watch satele flop again!
Mclaine made alot of plays and seemed much more natural this week. He is still doing alot of thinking, but you could see improvement week to week. He does over pursue and teams are cutting back on him, he is a rookie and he will learn in time.
Our d linemen are young and are learning how to be consitant threats, as we have seen teams adjust to our rush ends.
Bottom line this a very young team that is on a huge upswing, but there will be growing pains along the way. I also like the fact that we need to lick our wounds a little, it keeps the team hungry and humble, and shows where we need work. This year we are good for between 6-9 wins. The real payoff comes next year and after, as they build and grow together, into something special. Have patience nation things are looking up!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
The one drop DHB did have wsa a tough catch. The defender dove right in front of him and almost had the pick. Wasn’t like the drops we’ve been seeing from Murphy.
DHBeast is going to be just fine!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am
A good indication of that is him coming out of the game with the 1st unit. Never played with the other scrubs.
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Good observation Jwig.
This Guy just seems to get it.
Fast track for sure.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Hue wanted to get a look at DMAC he got his look, adjusments will be made accordingly…
August 29th, 2010 at 9:53 am
57 yards from 2nd base.
Nice leg Seabass!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Thec07 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Hue wanted to get a look at DMAC he got his look, adjusments will be made accordingly
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I think / hope so.
Dmac is a HR Hitter.
Gotta get him his cuts.
He is capable of making “the play” that deflates the opposition.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
BigTed707 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:53 am
57 yards from 2nd base.
Nice leg Seabass
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LOL…that was sweeeeet.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Everyone needs to remember its called PRESEASON for a reason. Play, learn, get be better and be ready for regular season. Relax(for now) panic in week 6.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:58 am
you guys dissing on grads would still be saying jafatarse should still be qb if he were here. you have no credibility in here.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
We need a left offensive tackle, someone besides Henderson.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Grads looked good last night. He’s my choice for #2.
If Campbell goes down, I feel good about Grads stepping in.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Veldheer was a major upgrade, one missed assignment but we cant expect a rookie to be perfect. I would rather have him learn on the job at this point, rather than watch satele flop again!
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Yeah, but the question is will Veldheer better serve us playing LT, RT, or C?
Walker is killing fools when we run the ball to his side and has been “ok” in pass protection.
Henderson will give up 1-2 blindside sacks each game if we is left on an island. Will seems dominant the rest of the game.
Satele gets rag dolled often, but is serviceable since the QBs get the ball out so quickly.
I think we could give Mario help with an extra TE, a FB, and shorter drops, and we need Walker for the run game. Center might be the best place for him.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:01 am
The 2 PI calls last night on 4th down we TERRIBLE calls!
August 29th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Yeah, but the question is will Veldheer better serve us playing LT, RT, or C?
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Exactly!
August 29th, 2010 at 10:03 am
We have found a place for Veldeheer, thats starting center. Get Bruce Campbell readt and developed at either tackle positions…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
thec i heard bokim on foxxhole radio last week and couldnt stop thinkin about cantgetright in LIFE. everytime i see cartwright thats who i think of. dmc has more swivel than given credit for. its not a whole lot but he made some nice cuts in the open field on those 2 receptions that got about 12-15 yards. i say have him return some kicks cuz we need more of him. why not just get him the ball like in arkansas. if he can do more then let him do it. we need him touch the ball alot.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Tom Howard played well last night at WLB!
Had a play in the 3rd qtr where he knocked the pulling TE flat on his arsse. Don’t think I’ve EVER seen him do that.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:05 am
We have found a place for Veldeheer, thats starting center. Get Bruce Campbell readt and developed at either tackle positions…
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The Beast needs to get up to speed…pronto.
That’s asking a lot, but the sooner the better.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:06 am
armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
thec i heard bokim on foxxhole radio last week and couldnt stop thinkin about cantgetright in LIFE. everytime i see cartwright thats who i think of. dmc has more swivel than given credit for. its not a whole lot but he made some nice cuts in the open field on those 2 receptions that got about 12-15 yards. i say have him return some kicks cuz we need more of him. why not just get him the ball like in arkansas. if he can do more then let him do it. we need him touch the ball alot.
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Funny Sh!!t… I like bokim, he is a good actor…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Tom Howard played well last night at WLB!
Had a play in the 3rd qtr where he knocked the pulling TE flat on his arsse. Don’t think I’ve EVER seen him do that.
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Amazing what a sense of urgency and a threat to one’s security can do for a guy.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:08 am
The Beast needs to get up to speed…pronto.
That’s asking a lot, but the sooner the better.
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I would give him zero time off at this point…
He should only get breaks for food only, no partying, no hanging out, no girls….. Okay scratch the no girls part, point is he needs to get up to speed fast, as in 3 weeks ago…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Jacoby Ford is our KR and PR.
Notwright and Figurs played their way outta that spot. We need to cut both of those guys, go with Bennett as the #3 RB and pick up another RB until Bush is ready.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Okay scratch the no girls part,
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lol, gotta throw Him an occasional “Bone”
August 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
niners starting C missed the game because of injury.
even with 2 rooks starting they will have one of the better olines in the league this year…Best we have faced so far…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:13 am
I’d Keep Bennett as well. He has more juice than Cartwright.
Agree about Ford as well.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
aig-raiders Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:07 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Today was a terrible go for the o-line by the way…got the QB injured, linebackers knifing through with no resistance.
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bro, we had a big discussion about McNabb and JC vs Grad. I told you that our Oline would still get either McNabb or JC killed. They did just that. Grad gives us the best option based on his mobility to bail out the line’s weakness.
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AIG,
I hate this line of logic. Our o-line is garbage so get a QB that is scrappy enough to get by.
That doesn’t win playoff games or championships. Guys that win with their arms and can make all the throws win championships.
As far as Gradkowski is concerned. I don’t trust him over 16 gms. Al Davis and Hue Jackson saw the film on him last year and whatever he did in camp and made the decision to bring in Jason Campbell. Also, Campbell was moving the ball just fine until the DMAC experiment and Eric Pears and Mario Henderson doing their absolute best to sabotage the offense.
I am not interested in seeing the next Jeff Garcia or Kordell Stewart.
No more transition years….We should have picked up an OLineman in the draft the last few years.
The lines are nothing but duct tape and hope….
The Raiders need a guy that can stand in the pocket and sling the ball and make the reads and throws etc.
We have all seen magic acts evaporate over time.
If the O-Line is garbage…..THEN FIX THE O-LINE.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
trvoe scott is still learning a new position.he will make some plays and then get jacked up so we have to be patient.kam didnt do nothin yesterday either. defensively we seemed kind of flat. the niners have their complete defensive personality so its natural that they were more aggressive. we arent there yet so it will take some time.3 new lbs and 2 young dlineman wont gel right away. the secondary is nice tho
August 29th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Raiders have plenty of issues, but damn, they have a lot of above average DBs. Cuts will be hard there.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Veldheer played very well for a rookie starting his first game at a new position. He miised the protection call on the Willis run blitz, but he played an excellent overall game.
What we need is a Right Tackle. Walker should be moved inside to Right Guard. That is where he has had the most success as a Raider.
Mario Henderson needs to take his job a little more seriously. It’s like being a surgeon. You can’t have the attitude that, “I’ve had 4 successful surgeries in a row, so this patient I almost killed is no big deal.”
Mario almost got our starting QB killed last night!
It’s one thing to give up a sack, but to let a defensive end get to your QB blindsided is not ok. Mario should have pushed LaBoy more to the outside, so that at least LaBoy would have had to reach out and grab Campbell’s jersey or something in order to bring him down.
He’s 6′7 335lbs for crying out loud.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Veldheer was a major upgrade, one missed assignment but we cant expect a rookie to be perfect. I would rather have him learn on the job at this point, rather than watch satele flop again!
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Yeah, but the question is will Veldheer better serve us playing LT, RT, or C?
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Dont see him having ton of success at LT like i wrote before. arms too short ala Gallery …Peters getting the best of him may have given us an indication of that
the pass protection was better with him at center ..you could actually see a pocket and not a hodge podge of sht going on around Campbell
put him at center
August 29th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Kam didn’t get his name called much if at all last night, but I looked to me as though He set the edge and held up well in the run game.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Barnes looked pretty good at LT last night.
Just trying to id the best 5 Olinemen we have guys.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Just like last year, Murphy and Miller are still our best pass scoring threats.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Maybe they ought to consider carrying 4 QBs. This OL is sketchy. Takes me back to the Bears game where David Humm had to come in and he got hos fillings knocked out. I think Marcus took a snap or two at QB.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Why all the negativity? Yes we lost the game, but we put up 21 points against one of the better 1st team defenesive teams in the league. Had a center making his first start there ever in the NFL. I like the direction we are moving in. Agreed our tackles are pretty weak but we still mover the ball. Drops and penaltys are what killed us. Also bogus PI calls against us on 4th down. Does anyone know which thumb Bush broke?
August 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Not sure why Figurs was getting so many return opportunities.
I think JLH will return punts, and Rock KO’s until Ford is ready to go. Maybe sprinkle him in occasionally to see if he is in fact ready.
Return game will probably be a bit of an issue again this year. Clearly, Nick Miller isn’t high a top the hopes of the coaching staff for a return man.
Watkins makes that catch last night, and he is on the roster no doubt. Instead he drops it, and everything is up in the air again.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
# hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Does anyone know which thumb Bush broke?
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Left hand. He should be ok.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
# J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Barnes looked pretty good at LT last night.
Just trying to id the best 5 Olinemen we have guys.
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Let me help you there… Barnes isn’t one of them.
Not that some of the other guys are all that stellar. I really hoped that Barnes would step up, though. He seems to have the same problems as Walker. He can’t handle speed rushers, and he jumps the snap an awful lot.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Coles just got cut by the Jets. Worth a flier? Assuming he doesn’t retire, that is…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Raiders have plenty of issues, but damn, they have a lot of above average DBs. Cuts will be hard there.
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I was thinking that last night.
Brown, Mcfadden, Ware.
I don’t see how all make the 53.
If exposed to waivers, I think any of the 3 land on another 53.
Tough, tough choices.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:26 am
thec bokim has a new movie comin called devil in septmeber.there was no dmc experiment snb. he is part of the plan so get over it.the offense stalled when that crappy oline u fuss about stopped blocking whether he was in the game or not. agree about jc being just as mobile as grads. anybody think he couldnt have made that throw to murphy as well? hopefully bc can get up to speed cuz we need some talent on the oline.mario has some but he doesnt do as much with it and gallery is the only consistent guy of the bunch. the sooner v and bc CANGETRIGHT the better. i dont even like our backups. pears morris damn they suck!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 10:27 am
As I said last night, Campbell got a tough dose of reality that our O-line stinks. A little too casual back there, and it he got carted off because of it.
Since Bruce played last year, and got his knees blown out, he is fully aware that the ball needs to come out very, very quickly, and he better be prepared to move around and the throw the ball away, and from weird body angles and the like.
Hopefully JC gets that, and isn’t stubborn about it, or he will get killed. So far, I have to see Bruce get hit hard while still holding the ball, his biggest hits have come (like his knee injury and last nights body slam)while GETTING RID OF THE BALL.
Memo to Jason.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Maybe time to package some DBS and get Gaither from the Ravens. Not sure how injured the guy is. Pretty good left tackle. Hell of a run blocker. Liked the way Bruce Cambell looked at RG last night. Hopefully he is a quick learner. Very physical blocker, showed some nastiness last night also. We will put alot more pressure on the QB in the real game. Did not show many looks.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:58 am
you guys dissing on grads would still be saying jafatarse should still be qb if he were here. you have no credibility in here.
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No dissing on Gradkowski here. He has done everything asked of him. I just don’t see him as a starter over 16gms.
If Davis, Jackson saw what they needed to see, they aren’t trying to get McNabb, and then later Campbell. Also, in a QB starved league like this one…a 2nd round tender for a “starting” QB would be a no-brainer for about a half-dozen teams right now.
Gradkowski will get his chance anyway. With this delicate to the touch o-line…I wouldn’t be surprised to see Colt get some snaps this year
August 29th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Had campbell completed his dropback before he was hit???
Who said he held the ball to long??
August 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
We need to use McFadden like Reggie Bush.
70 carries, 45 receptions last year, and a Super Bowl ring, as well as returning some kicks occasionally.
Sounds great to me.
Took the Saints 3 years to realize that 150 carries a year (about 10 a game) was a waste of about 4-5 plays a game.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Who said he held the ball to long??
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The guy driving the cart.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:32 am
kidseven Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Raiders have plenty of issues, but damn, they have a lot of above average DBs. Cuts will be hard there.
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That’s because Al Davis drafts 10 corner backs for every 1 offensive or defensive lineman.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am
I have been preaching that since day one… DMAC is a straight line runner, has good hands, and runs fast…
Use him to create mismatches..
August 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am
What’s strange about D-Mac, is that when taking handoffs he rarely makes the first man miss, and when he catches passes, rarely does the first man bring him down.
Can’t explain it.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Who said he held the ball to long??
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The guy driving the cart
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I need to look at it again, but did he complete his dropback before he was hit?
campbell looked good as the starter, will be the starter baring injury…Grads is cool, but he wont start if Campbell is okay, just the facts no conjecture…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Maybe time to package some DBS and get Gaither from the Ravens. Not sure how injured the guy is. Pretty good left tackle. Hell of a run blocker. Liked the way Bruce Cambell looked at RG last night. Hopefully he is a quick learner. Very physical blocker, showed some nastiness last night also. We will put alot more pressure on the QB in the real game. Did not show many looks.
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I’ve been lobbying hard for Gaither. The tear in his back is very small, or at least small enough for the Ravens’ coaching staff to think he’ll be back in action by week 2, if not by the season opener. People are saying he has a bad attitude, but the guy just wants a long term deal. His team has plenty of tackle depth, and evidently wants Oher manning the left tackle position. He sees the writing on the wall and wants to go somewhere where he’ll get paid. Enter the Raiders..?
August 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Maybe time to package some DBS and get Gaither from the Ravens.
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Mabey yes, mabey no.
Injury, attitude, work habits.
All question marks.
However, to use a Cable’ism…”Cleaning up”…You can clean up after your dog on Monday thru Saturday, but come Sunday it’s still gonna take another crap.
Talent cleans up after itself.
Without TALENT you spend valuble time “cleaning up” stuff that just gets dropped again and again.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Why all the negativity? Yes we lost the game, but we put up 21 points against one of the better 1st team defenesive teams in the league. Had a center making his first start there ever in the NFL. I like the direction we are moving in. Agreed our tackles are pretty weak but we still mover the ball. Drops and penaltys are what killed us. Also bogus PI calls against us on 4th down. Does anyone know which thumb Bush broke?
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Because the fundamentals looked bad.
1. Run defense was non-existant
2. O-Line getting overwhelmed
3. Penalties killing big plays
4. Injuries
5. Forcing round pegs into square spaces (DMAC)
August 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
We need to use McFadden like Reggie Bush.
70 carries, 45 receptions last year, and a Super Bowl ring, as well as returning some kicks occasionally.
Sounds great to me.
Took the Saints 3 years to realize that 150 carries a year (about 10 a game) was a waste of about 4-5 plays a game.
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Exactly. We all saw what he can do in the passing game last night. If it wasn’t for the Murphy penalty, that could have changed the complexion of the first quarter dramatically.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Whoever said DMAC should be used as a 3rd down back….hit it right.
Understand who and what he is and move on.
That damn NFL Draft
August 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am
What’s strange about D-Mac, is that when taking handoffs he rarely makes the first man miss, and when he catches passes, rarely does the first man bring him down.
Can’t explain it.
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I can DMAC is very fast, but has zero swivel… He can run by a guy who appears to have an angle, but cannot juke anyone, or stop and accellerate on a dime.
Example look at CJ Spillar… Get will stop and accelerate in an instant… He breaks ankles making guys miss…
August 29th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Murphy’s drop last night was comical, as was the week before.
At least he makes the occassional big play, but man his hands look awful at times.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:40 am
SNB what was the final score. We have not been able to score points like that in along time. Even whit all the above mentioned problems.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Mostly what I didn’t like was that once again a physical football team basically dictated the tempo of the game.
This game looked a lot like the games over the last 7 years.
I am very concerned about the O_line and the front 7 defense
August 29th, 2010 at 10:41 am
CJ Spiller looks reeeeaaaaaaly good.
Maybe the first thing Fat Kidd got right.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:42 am
The line is missing a LT that won’t get resolved until next year. I think Cable even said they wanted to draft a LT in round 1 b4 mcclain.
Until then its Mario who is average. Not bad for a 3rd round pick; but for this team to get better and take it to the next level we need a LT who is very dependable.
My prediction: Sooner rather than later Veldheer starts at Center, Bruce Campbell moves in at RG midseason. Giving [Henderson, Gallery, Veldheer, Campbell, Walker].
Next year a LT is drafted and one or a few things occur. Henderson moves to RT or backs up LT …Bruce Campbell either remains RG or moves to RT (or LT but I dont think this is likely considering the current depth chart). If I were to make a bet I would say he remains RG.
Yield this next year: Draftee LT, Gallery LG, Veldheer C, Campbell RG, Walker/Henderson RT
August 29th, 2010 at 10:44 am
I’d be a lot less concerned about this team if they had one legitimate offensive tackle, and one more starting-caliber back who could be an every down player if push came to shove.
Marshawn Lynch
Jared Gaither
I know people are worried about their “attitude problems”, but I think the lack of production out of these positions for the Raiders is more concerning. Especially considering Michael Bush’s thumb injury.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:45 am
How about
Gaither Gallery Veldheer Campbell/Walker Henderson
This year. Ravens need some DBS bad.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:46 am
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’d love for the Raiders to do what the Redskins did. Trade for a starting-caliber tackle, draft another.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:47 am
hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:45 am
How about
Gaither Gallery Veldheer Campbell/Walker Henderson
This year. Ravens need some DBS bad.
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If we could swap a DB for Gaither, I’d do it.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Thec07 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am
What’s strange about D-Mac, is that when taking handoffs he rarely makes the first man miss, and when he catches passes, rarely does the first man bring him down.
Can’t explain it.
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I can DMAC is very fast, but has zero swivel… He can run by a guy who appears to have an angle, but cannot juke anyone, or stop and accellerate on a dime.
Example look at CJ Spillar… Get will stop and accelerate in an instant… He breaks ankles making guys miss…
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Al drafts based on straight line 40x…well at least until this past year….
August 29th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Thomas Howard and later-round picks for Marshawn Lynch
Draft pick(s) and maybe a DB (Routt?) for Jared Gaither.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
switch from black jerseys which absorb heat to white ones with black pants…..that way 7 wins could happen
August 29th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Might take a package to get Gaither, But we cant keep all of them anyway. Keep 21, 26, 22, 37, 24, 33, 34 for sure and make a package with some of the rest.. Beleive Gaither graded out in the top ten percent for winning at the point of attack.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:50 am
at the titans-loss….they won’t beat arizona either.no way the o-line can handle zona’s d-line.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
LhayeS37 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
switch from black jerseys which absorb heat to white ones with black pants…..that way 7 wins could happen
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Crabtree? Is that You?
August 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
don’t want lynch,need howard still
August 29th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Ravens have given up 25 points in 3 games this preseason.
They don’t need anything but to stay healthy. Doubt they trade with anybody within the conference.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:52 am
niners should win the west,raiders lost to a playoff team
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Gaither Gallery Veldheer Campbell/Walker Henderson
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This would be ideal, in my opinion. That way next season the Raiders can pick up another tackle if they feel it’s necessary to compete with Henderson for the RT spot, and can use a second rounder to try to find an answer at FS.
I’m under no illusions that Big Al somehow WON’T want to use a high draft pick on a defensive back… might as well be a FS as long as Michael Huff can’t tackle.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I’ll take Coles as a possesion guy.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
They are not healthy at DB. Also beleive they would not mind moving Gaither.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:45 am
How about
Gaither Gallery Veldheer Campbell/Walker Henderson
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I agree 99.9999 percent. However, I believe that Gaither and Henderson could both play either side. But Veldheer needs to start at Center. The kid is a stud straight up. And his learning curve is through the roof.
And Walker needs to be moved inside to Right Guard.
Once Veldheer learns to recognize and call out protections, that lineup could be solid if not dominant at times.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
This will be your line eventually:
New Draftee, Gallery, Veldheer, Campbell, Henderson(Walker)
Looks like it should be one big asz athletic line that should dominate.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Antonio Bryant just waived.
Got $7.5 million signing bonus this offseason.
Good work if you can find it, huh?
August 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
i hope mcclain plays really well because we could have had russell okung
August 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
The kid is a stud straight up. And his learning curve is through the roof.
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This pick appears to have been a HR.
Love it, Love It, Love it
August 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
maybe they should hit more in practice….a lot more
August 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
alva may sign bryant
August 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
# HairyBush Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I’ll take Coles as a possesion guy.
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Word. Assuming he doesn’t retire.
Honestly, the Raiders have promising playmakers at WR but they’re both (theoretically) in the T.O. vein – can be big play threats, but also have their fair share of drops.
I’ve been wanting a legitimate possession receiver for a while. Doesn’t need to be explosive, just has to catch whatever comes to him.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
LhayeS37 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
i hope mcclain plays really well because we could have had russell okung
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Okung was drafted before RoMac.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
no one gives up a viable LT …that just does not happen ..expect that to be resovled via draft
August 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
guys that make all the throws win championships, lol is that why guys like trent dilfer won one and guys like jeff george didn’t?
August 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
See you guys later, got to get the ribs on the smoker…God I hate the Niners. We will make some noise this year even if we stand Pat. This was the only game we did not blitz alot or use a LB/DE in pass rush a whole lot. We played close to the vest and still were scoring on a very good D.
August 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
# LhayeS37 Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
i hope mcclain plays really well because we could have had russell okung
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No, they couldn’t have. Anthony Davis was the “best” OT on the board when the Raiders picked.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Henderson kept Julius Peppers in check last week and he played fine yesterday except for 1 play where he gave up a sack, too bad it got JC hurt, but it was one play, it happens to the best of them.
I will say Mario has a tendency to play up to the level of competition, he needs to stay focused vs lesser competition.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Ravens have given up 25 points in 3 games this preseason.
They don’t need anything but to stay healthy. Doubt they trade with anybody within the conference.
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That’s because they can make it work with that front 7 of theirs….anchored by no compromise beasts up front.
Raiders have some work to do. Giving up 170+ yards on the ground last week and 165 yesterday….looks like more of the same to me. Lot of work
And the FREEKN penalties negating long gains. Eric Pears should be released with immediate effect.
Robert Gallery false starting multiple times last week…Murphy still not knowing how to line up.
You can’t win with that shhhhhhhh
August 29th, 2010 at 11:01 am
i think that had the niners and raiders played the second game of the preseason we would have been talking a different tune. i think players know where they are and if they are on the team, maybe that affected the drop from defense?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:01 am
guys that make all the throws win championships, lol is that why guys like trent dilfer won one and guys like jeff george didn’t?
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Hue Jackson is on the record saying his top quality in QB is “the ability to lead men”.
Dilfer was a great leader. When they brought in Elvis Grbac, who was clearly more skilled, they fell apart.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:02 am
what they brought in was that defense that won their championship, dilfer didn’t have to turn the ball over, period
August 29th, 2010 at 11:02 am
hellsbells Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
This was the only game we did not blitz alot or use a LB/DE in pass rush a whole lot. We played close to the vest and still were scoring on a very good D.
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And I hope that Al Davis recognizes what you just said and that they were indeed holding back.
BEcause if they think just front 4 natural pressure all game with a ton of man 2 man…while not varying the looks and keep Nnamdi planted on the right side will win….then it will be a 5-11 season again
August 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
I don’t mean to be coming down too hard on Henderson. Just pointing out that the coaching staff highlighted his position to draft and would have drafted in the 1st round if the player was there.
Eventually Henderson will be replaced if he doesn’t improve in consistency. He’s still a pretty good draft pick.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
that is what i am saying, people with intangibles win championships, not always the best talented specimen
August 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
antonio bryant got cut by the bengals!
August 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
grads has intangibles, he has a knack
August 29th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Speaking of Eric Pears…another ZBS backup refugee from the Broncos that Tom Cable LOVES to see on the field….why was he out there?
Who is he ahead of on the depth chart
August 29th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Even if they draft a LT I think Henderson still starts on the line at RT (lesser pass rushers) where he may very well excel. Still makes for a great pick in 3rd round.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
that is what i am saying, people with intangibles win championships, not always the best talented specimen
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Name me ONE QB with all that intangible stuff that’s won a championship on his talent?
Then name me the ones that won championships that had a heck of a lot of talent
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
We made our fair share of mistakes last night, but let’s keep in mind the big picture everyone.
That was a glorified scrimmage against a team that we are scheduled to play in the regular season.
I think the overall strategy used by the Raiders was brilliant. IMO the Niners showed too much. They used delayed blitzes and more exotic schemes on defense than we did.
On the other hand we kept everything basic. We now have tons of game film and opportunities to prepare for them 7 weeks from now. We learned way more about them than they learned about us, which in my opinion was a mistake on their part. And on top of all that, our starters still outplayed their starters.
In a preseason game you gotta look at the overall picture, not the final score.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Just pointing out that the coaching staff highlighted his position to draft and would have drafted in the 1st round if the player was there.
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That’s the impression I got when Cable was interviewed after the draft.
He didn’t come out and say LT, but by deduction as to whom would have been available, it sure seemed like they were hoping for one.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
#276 you nailed it, vanilla al defense. when they know what your going to do it makes their job easier. no imagination there which puts more into the sapp theory
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I will give Al Davis that much. He recognizes you have to have the horses to win the race.
Just that he doesn’t seem to look at the complete picture.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
drew brees, peyton manning and tom brady
August 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
RaiderLen Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Just pointing out that the coaching staff highlighted his position to draft and would have drafted in the 1st round if the player was there.
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That’s the impression I got when Cable was interviewed after the draft.
He didn’t come out and say LT, but by deduction as to whom would have been available, it sure seemed like they were hoping for one.
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Ijust remember reading that somewhere …maybe Jerry posted it from one of Cable’s post draft conferences.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
ArmChair QB,
I am p^ssed that they were physically beaten up last night. That there were too many plays were they just overwhelmed the team…man to man.
I didn’t like the tempo or the energy either. I HATED the penalties. The last two games were unacceptable from a penalty standpoint.
Especially the O-Line with Pears and Gallery
August 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
al’s like junior soprano, he does what he’s always done just like he’s back in the 70’s and he doesn’t understand those schemes hurt you to some degree
August 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I’d rather have Coles than Bryant, but Coles made a lot of noise about retiring as a Jet…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
The Raiders are getting better and will continue to do so over the year, but they’re not there yet, people have to understand that.
Why don’t you focus on the offense as a whole?.
They scored 24 points facing the 49ers starters, SF was the ranked 4th in scoring defense last year giving up just 17.6 ppg.
That’s improvement, even if it’s just preseason.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
drew brees, peyton manning and tom brady
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Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are elite QBs that make all the throws.
Drew Brees may be short…but he too makes all the throws.
None of those QBs win with their legs either. They win with their head and their arms.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:10 am
niners had more penalties and i think the lack of emphysis put on the game affected it too, as cable put it, more of a look at what they wanted to see then a plan to win the game
August 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:06 am
We made our fair share of mistakes last night, but let’s keep in mind the big picture everyone.
That was a glorified scrimmage against a team that we are scheduled to play in the regular season.
I think the overall strategy used by the Raiders was brilliant. IMO the Niners showed too much. They used delayed blitzes and more exotic schemes on defense than we did.
On the other hand we kept everything basic. We now have tons of game film and opportunities to prepare for them 7 weeks from now. We learned way more about them than they learned about us, which in my opinion was a mistake on their part. And on top of all that, our starters still outplayed their starters.
In a preseason game you gotta look at the overall picture, not the final score.
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Good post I expressed much of the same in various post… Hope we dont stay vanilla thru the season as some would suggest…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
al’s like junior soprano, he does what he’s always done just like he’s back in the 70’s and he doesn’t understand those schemes hurt you to some degree
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In Al’s world you DOMINATE.
He’s after a Roster of 53 guys that win every one on one battle.
Not realistic in todays game.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
The 49ers are definitely a tough defensive team. Patrick Willis is the prototype inside linebacker. I hope McClain was taking some notes, because Willis plays like a monster.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:12 am
the head is what i would call an intangible. brees doesn’t have a strong arm, that’s why sd let him go and that’s why al didn’t get him
August 29th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Richard Seymour is the most important player on the defense.
He better improve this run defense. The last two games were atrocious
August 29th, 2010 at 11:13 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
The 49ers are definitely a tough defensive team. Patrick Willis is the prototype inside linebacker. I hope McClain was taking some notes, because Willis plays like a monster.
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If RoMac could get to 90% of that level within a few years, I’d take it.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
reasom why brees was let go becuase of his shoulder injury, they werent sure he would recover from it.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
So you guys think the Raiders were playing it cool—not showing the complex schemes and trickery they plan to employ in the regular season? Ha! Sure.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
you think brad johnson won a sb on talent?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:12 am
the head is what i would call an intangible.
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For the QB, knowledge of the game, knowing the reads, audibles etc…is everything and to me is very tangible.
Intangible stuff to me is making plays out of nothing….inspiring teammates to do more than they are capable of….the magic of extending plays when evrything breaks down.
Being able to read a blitz should be mandatory.
Just that here in Oakland, we’ve been used to having some of the most incompetent players in NFL history the last 7 years because they were drafted based on H/W/S….like JaDavis
August 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
someone said we can’t win a championship with grads, i beg to differ. we can’t win a championship with vanilla d but that’s a different argument.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
The offensive playcalling could use some variety, but I’ll hold off on any criticism until Week 1 when we get to see what the Raiders are really cooking up.
As far as the defense goes, I think the Cover 0 is a good base scheme. Eight men in the box to stop the run, any offensive player who stays in to block is just inviting more pass rushers. But I would like to see them be able to change up the Cover 0 with different looks. A few zone blitzes here and there, moving Nnamdi around. Now, they could very well be planning on doing this and just not showing it in the preseason. But given the Raiders’ history of saying they’re working on all kinds of new things and then never showing anything new over the course of the season, I of course have some doubts.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Name me ONE QB with all that intangible stuff that’s won a championship on his talent?
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Guys like Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer of late have won with all that intangible stuff.
How many Super Bowls have the Ravens went to since Dilfer? Defense is still great, yet they just can’t get over the hump.
Meanwhile, Randall Cuningham and the Jeff George’s of the world look great in October, and aren’t playing in January.
Got to be a leader. Don’t take my word for it, listen to Hue Jacksons’.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am
what are we debating?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
you think brad johnson won a sb on talent?
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Brad Johnson won because of Al Davis’ arrogance.
Trent Dilfer? That Raven Front 7 won that game…they just asked the offense not to give up a pick six
August 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I think bad draft choices have sunk the offense and defense more than anything else.
I know I’ve said this before, but you can’t run a defensive scheme that utilizes one deep safety if the guy you have out there can’t tackle, and can’t cover all that well either.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
JFB,
You’ve got to be a leader AND have the tangibles.
Unfortunately, Al Davis isn’t very good at picking either of them of late.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
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August 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am
ArmChair QB,
I am p^ssed that they were physically beaten up last night. That there were too many plays were they just overwhelmed the team…man to man.
I didn’t like the tempo or the energy either. I HATED the penalties. The last two games were unacceptable from a penalty standpoint.
Especially the O-Line with Pears and Gallery
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Agree about the penalties, disagree about the physicality of the game. I believe the penalties on big plays and dropped passes, hurt us more than anything else.
I think that the defense played vanilla on purpose, because we will be facing them in a few weeks.
Remember the Eagles game last year, when the Eagles said that they were completely caught off guard because the Raiders were bringing blitzes from everywhere, and the Eagles weren’t prepared for it?
That’s what I think will turn out to be in our advantage. We have a young team and they are learning week by week. But nobody’s starters have dominated ours yet. That’s the positive that I see here.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Who said he held the ball to long??
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The guy driving the cart.
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LOL
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
yeah, i know that leadership is the key, that’s something that is not learned. it’s a natural thing. i have been trying to say the same thing your saying but i guess haven’t made my point as of yet. sie la vie
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
just lookin back on that dmc run where he tripped and its more evident carlisle sucks. cc gets pushed back immediately as usual on his knees and his legs are split out clogging the running lane. dmc trips over his leg and then gets pounced on. he didnt trip over grass he tripped over a sucky olineman who has no place as a starter anymore. walker would make a much more powerful rg than cc. dude is always get pushed back.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
leader AND have the tangibles.
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To be great.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
I think bad draft choices have sunk the offense and defense more than anything else.
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Bad draft choices????
August 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I think bad draft choices have sunk the offense and defense more than anything else.
I know I’ve said this before, but you can’t run a defensive scheme that utilizes one deep safety if the guy you have out there can’t tackle, and can’t cover all that well either.
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I still think blaming the safety for the run defense is a bit much.
The Front 7 keeps letting running backs break loose for long runs…run defense starts there…more importantly it starts with the D-Line.
Until the Raiders recognize this and FOCUS on this…they will continue to get mauled on the ground and lose games.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Hey guys Antonio Bryant and Laverneus Coles just got cut by their squads. Maybe they can help JC out.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
just lookin back on that dmc run where he tripped and its more evident carlisle sucks. cc gets pushed back immediately as usual on his knees and his legs are split out clogging the running lane. dmc trips over his leg and then gets pounced on. he didnt trip over grass he tripped over a sucky olineman who has no place as a starter anymore. walker would make a much more powerful rg than cc. dude is always get pushed back.
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I had to watch this play in slow mo several times.
This is Exactly what I saw.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
# kidseven Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
So you guys think the Raiders were playing it cool—not showing the complex schemes and trickery they plan to employ in the regular season? Ha! Sure.
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Yes that’s exactly what I think. The coaches and players have been stressing that from game one of the preseason. Playing basic schemes, evaluating the starters and depth chart, while not giving away too much.
This isn’t new information.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:24 am
morning Nation..
August 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
yeah, but when’s the last time we were happy with our safeties? it’s gotta be the schemes
August 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
RaiderLen Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
leader AND have the tangibles.
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To be great.
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Exactly RaiderLen!
If you have a great leader with limited tangibles…you get guys like Chad Pennington, Jon Kitna and Jeff Garcia. Sure, they can get you 10 wins here and there….abut more than likely you make a run or two..get frustrated and start over.
Of course…when you a guy with tangilbes and no leadership….well…you get a pitcher full of Purple Drank
August 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
The last two games were atrocious
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Probably more to do with Bryant being 3rd string DT instead of Henderson.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I still think blaming the safety for the run defense is a bit much.
The Front 7 keeps letting running backs break loose for long runs…run defense starts there…more importantly it starts with the D-Line.
Until the Raiders recognize this and FOCUS on this…they will continue to get mauled on the ground and lose games.
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Not blaming him for the run defense in particular, but I think he has plenty to do with the big 40+ yard plays that the defense seems to give up at least once a game.
The front seven still need to work on being responsible for their respective gaps. They were doing much better at that in previous games, but Frank Gore and the big rookie Dixon exposed their flaws.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Watched the game again
2nd team D-Line got absolutey worked. Every play! Really asked a lot of the 2nd team Backers and Safeties to cover and stop the run.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Trent Dilfer? That Raven Front 7 won that game…they just asked the offense not to give up a pick six
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Yes, but they have had a great front 7 in the ten years since, but haven’t been back to the bowl once.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
The starting front four needs to be Houston, Seymour, Kelly,Shaughnessy, with Henderson in on obvious running plays.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
so who is your choice to be our qb?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
big rookie Dixon exposed their flaws
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Kudos to the niners. This guy can ball.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
290. Don’t forget Chris Morris. He’s sucked almost bad as Pears…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
The last two games were atrocious
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Probably more to do with Bryant being 3rd string DT instead of Henderson.
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I don’t know who should be playing what J. I just know that the results are not going to have this team in a position to win.
We can’t give up 150 to 200 yards a game on the ground. Otherwise, it won’t matter about our pass rush and our secondary.
I actually like this D-Line and Linebackers.
I am not sure if its scheme or what. All I know is if they don’t fix this…then every team will give us a whole heaping plate of running back week in and week out
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Kudos to the niners. This guy can ball.
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Yeah, I was really impressed with that kid. Good for them I guess, especially after Coffee bailed on them.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
they were unreal on defense that year
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Yes, but they have had a great front 7 in the ten years since, but haven’t been back to the bowl once.
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JFB…If fat ass Sarigusa hadn’t bellyflopped Gannon, the Ravens wouldn’t have been there at all.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
RaiderLen Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
just lookin back on that dmc run where he tripped and its more evident carlisle sucks. cc gets pushed back immediately as usual on his knees and his legs are split out clogging the running lane. dmc trips over his leg and then gets pounced on. he didnt trip over grass he tripped over a sucky olineman who has no place as a starter anymore. walker would make a much more powerful rg than cc. dude is always get pushed back.
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I had to watch this play in slow mo several times.
This is Exactly what I saw.
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You guys take the phrase blade of grass to seriously. You simply can’t deny that there are times that DMac goes down without much contact. Anyone can run into a wide open hole. I just don’t think he should’ve gone down on that play. He should’ve seen/known/anticipated Carlisle being in the way, lol.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
just lookin back on that dmc run where he tripped and its more evident carlisle sucks. cc gets pushed back immediately as usual on his knees and his legs are split out clogging the running lane. dmc trips over his leg and then gets pounced on. he didnt trip over grass he tripped over a sucky olineman who has no place as a starter anymore. walker would make a much more powerful rg than cc. dude is always get pushed back.
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CC and Satele always get pushed back and thats why they both need to be replaced as soon as possible. That was the big difference I saw when commenting on Veldheer this game. He held the pocket vs Satele who usually gets pushed back into the pocket. The pocket was clearer with Veldheer in there.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am
329 After Desomond Bryant was injured…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am
watching it again veldheer also gets pushed down to his knees and his legs is the one that really trips him up more than cc. both guys got driven back and really closed that hole up a bit.bottomline is get that push going forward and then we can see what dmc can. i always knew he wasnt a great change of direction runner behind the line. hes better at it ahead of the line. he doesnt get tackled as easy as yall say. its behind the los thats the biggest problem now. i think its more of a scheme fit than overall ability. a downhill power blocking scheme is probably better suited for him.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Use McFadden in the passing game and on perimeter runs. That’s what he’s best at. Don’t know why it’s taken the coaching staff so long to figure that out.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:33 am
He should’ve seen/known/anticipated Carlisle being in the way, lol.
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JWig, Your’e right. Carlisle spends as much time in the backfeild as Dmac. They should have a better working relationship!
August 29th, 2010 at 11:33 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
so who is your choice to be our qb?
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The one the coaches feel give the Raiders the best chance to win.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
c’mon 75 we both know the coaches input doesn’t matter, have an opinion
August 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
The BIG areas of concern in the game last night were:
1) Stupid penalties.
2) Too many dropped passes
3) Overall run defense
4) Return Coverage
I say that these are BIG areas because these are things that should not even be an issue by now.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Carlisle spends as much time in the backfeild as Dmac. They should have a better working relationship!
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LOL
August 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
342. DMC does get tackled easier than we even say. Its frankly ridiculous sometimes.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
So why was PEars in the game yesterday in the 1st QTR?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
1) Stupid penalties
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At least we weren’t as dumb as the niners.
Agree with everything you just said.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Use McFadden in the passing game and on perimeter runs. That’s what he’s best at. Don’t know why it’s taken the coaching staff so long to figure that out.
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Won’t matter if we keep letting the MLB attack him unblocked.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
So why was PEars in the game yesterday in the 1st QTR?
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Walker got hurt I think.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
If the Bills want too much for Marshawn Lynch, Willis McGahee seems to be on the way out in Baltimore…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am
But the positives…
1)Opening drive by Campbell
2)DHB
3)Murphy and Miller
4)Gradkowski’s accuracy, pocket awareness, and ability to energize everyone around him.(This should not be underestimated because the Raiders were looking dead on their feet after Campbell got hurt.)
5)Janikowski and Lechler in pro bowl form.
6)Walter Mcfadden
7)Veldheeer
August 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
JWig, Your’e right. Carlisle spends as much time in the backfeild as Dmac. They should have a better working relationship!
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Zingerrrrrrr!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 11:43 am
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am
But the positives…
1)Opening drive by Campbell
2)DHB
3)Murphy and Miller
4)Gradkowski’s accuracy, pocket awareness, and ability to energize everyone around him.(This should not be underestimated because the Raiders were looking dead on their feet after Campbell got hurt.)
5)Janikowski and Lechler in pro bowl form.
6)Walter Mcfadden
7)Veldheeer
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Agreed.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
gtg back later
August 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Won’t matter if we keep letting the MLB attack him unblocked.
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This is also true. But there’s less of a chance of that happening on his outside runs.
I’d love to see Tony Richardson and Marcel Reece at fullback, though.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Speaking of positives, what about the play of Routt? Has he given up one completion the last two weeks?
Got to say, I was pretty off on that one so far. He has looked waaaaay better than I ever would have imagined.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I have not seen the game yet. I see there is a healthy debate in here as to whether he is to blame or the o-line for his lack of production last night…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
If not Richardson then Tonga, but Richardson is a leader and a great presence to have in the locker room… not that Al Davis believes in chemistry…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
The Raiders played a basic scheme on offense and defense on purpose. The Raiders have been reiterating that all preseason. Not giving away too much to opponents that will be faced in the regular season. Anyone that can’t see that is clueless.
Like Iverson said, this was PRACTICE. I think we all know this was not the same defense that we saw the first two weeks. Especially against the Bears.
Let’s just look forward to seeing who get’s cut and who stays from not only the Raiders but around the league.
Bring on the season already!
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
JWig, Your’e right. Carlisle spends as much time in the backfeild as Dmac. They should have a better working relationship!
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Zingerrrrrrr!!!
We need a serious upgrade there.
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August 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
“Bruce Gradkowski was one of the bright spots in terms of going in there and having some efficiency and move the club around fairly well,’’ Cable said. “I think that’s what you want from your backup quarterback and he showed himself very well that way.’’
Backup quarterback.
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LOL. Good observation, Jerry.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
They should let Walker and Campbell split the reps at RG next week and see what happens.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:48 am
j wigg there are times he goes down a lil 2 easy but the point is that the lanes are getting clogged more when he is in there. part of it is the oiline some is him but i also feel defenses really amp up when he is in there. he breaks more tackles than given credit for especially up high. go look at opening night when he ran thru that SD db and carried another. also he never had balance issues until his turf toe he played on in buffalo his rookie year. he was slippin all over the place and he shouldnt have played. then he played the following week against SD when he shouldnt have and then he suffered another turf toe. he never had balance issues at arkansas or his rookie preseason and the denver/kc games that year. think maybe this is a coincidence or not?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Good late mronin Armond, Nnamdi, Dakots, MR, NATION.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
# TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
They should let Walker and Campbell split the reps at RG next week and see what happens.
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Agreed. Walker should not be at RT.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Got to be a leader. Don’t take my word for it, listen to Hue Jacksons’.
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everyone else coaches and players all say J Campbell is a leader…Is THE Leader…
August 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Speaking of positives, what about the play of Routt? Has he given up one completion the last two weeks?
Got to say, I was pretty off on that one so far. He has looked waaaaay better than I ever would have imagined.
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Routt DID look good last night. Mabey cable wasn’t blowin smoke afterall.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
everyone else coaches and players all say J Campbell is a leader…Is THE Leader…
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Rock Cartwright also said it is a “noticable difference from when he was in Washington”.
Basically, he is just starting to learn it. Not something I am confidant that someone can just learn 100% of it.
We shall see. He is clearly a good dude, with a good work ethic, which is about half the battle. Finding ways to grind out wins, and getting the most from your teammates, and inspiring hope is the other half.
Again, we shall see.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
So why was PEars in the game yesterday in the 1st QTR?
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Pears gets in the game early when we run the Jumbo set. Pears, Henderson and Walker all play at the same time instead of a 2nd TE.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
They should let Walker and Campbell split the reps at RG next week and see what happens.
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I’d like to see Walker at RG to see how He does.
Who then, is the RT?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
agree with armchair that the whiners showed 2 much. they attacked this game as if it was a regular season game or it was personal. i was surprised to see them blitz as much and really get after it the way they did which bodes well for us in october. we kept it real vanilla and still had the lead when it counted. not to mention no chaz seymour cj and still trying to figure out our offensive flow. the penalties killed us more than anything including those 2 4th dwn gifts from the refs.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
# RaiderLen Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
They should let Walker and Campbell split the reps at RG next week and see what happens.
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I’d like to see Walker at RG to see how He does.
Who then, is the RT?
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Walker when it’s Campbell. Maybe Barnes when it’s Walker?
Like I said before, I’d still like to see the Raiders make a move for Jared Gaither, for exactly that reason. Both he and Henderson can play either tackle position.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Walker when it’s Campbell. Maybe Barnes when it’s Walker?
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That’s what I was thinking.
No Pears please.
Gaither would absolutely be an upgrade.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Yeah, the coaches might love Pears because he’s “versatile”, but he’s below average at everything he does.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
wattup raccoon. len we shouldve let barnes be the rt walker rg from the beginning and let bc work his way into the rotation when ready. i dont like cables plan for this oline since he has been coach. the only good thing i can say is that he was for getting one of the top lt’s if they were available. however i think getting mcclain might be the better fit. henderson does seem to play up or down to his competition. we had nothing with morrison in the middle. we needed a true mlb bad
August 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Should hae signed some vets to improve the o-line.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Does anybody know which and Bush injured?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Yeah, the coaches might love Pears because he’s “versatile”, but he’s below average at everything he does.
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LOL…Morris is versatile as well.
They are truley the definition of a “Jack of all Trades”
August 29th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Last night was about as close to a true scrimmage as we’ll see in the NFL. Both teams played about as vanilla as they could, not wanting to give away too many “secrets.”
Easy to rate individual perfomances, though. McClain shows he’s still a rookie, even if he does have a veteran-like feel for the game. Veldheer shows a great capacity to learn in a hurry…and he didn’t get in the way of his QB throwing the ball. EVERY ONE of the WR’s on the team needs to hold onto the freakin’ ball better, not just DHB. DMcFadden is the same DMC he was the past two years…a mercurial talent who will flash occasionally. And, most importantly… JCampbell and Grads continue to show the qualities and abilities to lead a proficient Offense. As long as they can stay on their feet, that is.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
agree with armchair that the whiners showed 2 much. they attacked this game as if it was a regular season game or it was personal. i was surprised to see them blitz as much and really get after it the way they did mention no chaz seymour cj and still trying to figure out our offensive flow. the penalties killed us more which bodes well for us in october. we kept it real vanilla and still had the lead when it counted. not to than anything including those 2 4th dwn gifts from the refs.
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That’s the point Armond!
Sometimes it’s ok to sacrifice a battle in order to win the war.
And the reality is if the true battle in a preseason game is the play of the starters, then our starters actually outplayed theirs.
To all the doubters, go back and check the score after 3 quarters.
Clean up the self destructive crap, i.e
penalties, dropped passes, special teams gaffes, and we should be ok.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Willis McGahee or Marshawn Lynch?
Laveranues Coles or Antonio Bryant?
Jared Gaither?
Tony Richardson?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
How many times are we going to let Willis come in UNBLOCKED?
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That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Nothing to base this off of, but I’m going to go ahead and predict that the Raiders win this matchup during the regular season.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
left hand i think
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
would like for us to look at green bays cuts as well. they have alot of fbs they keep around. if t.richardson from the jets gets cut we have to try to get him. i cannot stand another day of lawton.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Pre Season means NOTHING! No matter what part or who was playing. The score after 3 quarters of the 9ers game is meaningless.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Bring in Antonio Bryant for a tryout and chat…yesterday. If he’s got the right attitude, he’s got the talent and experience this team could badly use.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
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True. A great learning experience for Velhdeer.
What’s even better is that He will learn from it and get better.
Satele is well…Satele
August 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
I have officially given up on McFadden.Dude was getting arm tackled by DB’s last night.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
408, don’t do it.
Dakota has made a list.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# Just Win Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
How many times are we going to let Willis come in UNBLOCKED?
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That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
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And that’s also why the Niners were stupid to do that in a preseason game. Now THE ROOKIE and his coaches will study that film and be prepared for it come week 6.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
A Jack of all trades but a master at “none”
August 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
BigLefty Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
A Jack of all trades but a master at “none”
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Ding Ding Ding, Correct.
Didn’t feel the need to elaborate to it’s conclusion.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
armchair the niners did the same stuff to minny last week. dont know if its good or bad but i notice alot of blitzing and things from around the league on defense. we also didnt really lose the game when the starters were in and at the end of it. he never got into the endzone. put me down for gaither.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
If no one saw the game last night 36 is rebroadcasting it right now.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
# Dude Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Pre Season means NOTHING! No matter what part or who was playing. The score after 3 quarters of the 9ers game is meaningless.
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Dude you are sadly mistaken.
The FINAL SCORE of a preseason game means nothing. But when you play your starters vs their starters for 3 quarters in a preseason game, it gives coaches and players alot to study, evaluate, and learn from.
It also can give you an overall assessment of the overall strengths and weaknesses of a team, so that the weaknesses don’t carry over into the regular season, but the positives do.
Come on man, even you should know that.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Armchair GM= new head idiot of this blog.
“thats why the Niners are supid to do that in preseason” LOL!! Lets all pretend that this clown knows anything about what the 9ers will do in the reg season.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# Just Win Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
How many times are we going to let Willis come in UNBLOCKED?
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That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
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And that’s also why the Niners were stupid to do that in a preseason game. Now THE ROOKIE and his coaches will study that film and be prepared for it come week 6.
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Exactly right. Veldheer did look pretty good pile blocking on that lst drive. So did Gallery. Of course Abrayo Franklin is on the sideline drinking soda which makes a difference.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
The Raiders’ O will practice against every blitz known to mankind. The rookie showing a mental weakness that was exploited by a good Defense will be a learning experience…but there was nothing fancy about the play/s where he got burned, and he quickly recognizes and corrects his mistakes.
Neither team last night revealed anything that the other side didn’t already know existed.
One thing is certain, though…Tom Cable’s job is relying on Tom Cable doing the job of molding a dominant O-Line. That only happens with a fresh body or two on it.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
What I do know about the 49ers game during the regular season is that Gore, Crabtree,and V Davis will be on the field for 4 quarters if healthy.
The Raiders had better have their stuff together.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
# Dude Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Armchair GM= new head idiot of this blog.
“thats why the Niners are supid to do that in preseason” LOL!! Lets all pretend that this clown knows anything about what the 9ers will do in the reg season.
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And we’ll also pretend that you know anything about football. Otherwise you wouldn’t have posted that the play of the starters in a preseason game is meaningless.
It may be meaningless to the casual fan, or the local village idiot like yourself, but to the coaches, the lessons and film study gained is invaluable.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Clean up the self destructive crap, i.e
penalties, dropped passes, special teams gaffes, and we should be ok.
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There it is!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
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Veldheer missed one block yesterday.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Yeah, the OL absolutely sucks if you go by the comments in here, here’s actual proof:
“The 49ers learned how the NFC West will never be won … and that’s for their starting defense to allow 21 points, 248 total yards and a 70.5 percent completion rate in more than two quarters of play.
Sure, the backup crews rallied to save the day in a 28-24 victory over the Raiders in an exhibition game Saturday at the Coliseum.
Just don’t think 49ers coach Mike Singletary forgot what the first-half defense did by the end of the game.
“We really didn’t do a good job consistently …I was going to send our first-team defense back out there.” Singletary said of his first-team defense, which played into the third quarter for the first time this exhibition season.
The starting 11 may have been fine with that. They, too, were embarrassed to let the Raiders pass for two touchdowns and punch in a goal-line run into the end zone.
The starting pass rush netted a single quarterback sack.
The starting secondary allowed 236 passing yards.”
I guess the OL had nothing to do with it.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Veldheer missed one block yesterday.
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Tom Flores said he did not see any drop off at the C position, from the rookie Velhdeer.
From my perspective, and opinion of Satele, that could be viewed as a back handed compliment.
However, I think what it really means is that Velhdeer is probably as good if not better than sdatele right now.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
V <——- Looked good at C, should start day 1…
For the first time in ages we had a real pocket, with a ton of time to throw…
August 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Marley,
What about JC getting hurt, and the stellar 12 yds rushing? I think that is what the Oline complainers are complaining about.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
The main concern I have is the instability on the O-line. With Seymour back, the D should be much more stout up front.
You can’t underestimate the importance of Richard Seymour’s absence on the line because he’s only “one player”, and then hype up Patrick Willis on the other side. After all if he was out of the lineup last night, then 75% of those defensive plays the Niners made don’t get made either.
Great players get paid to make great plays.
Willis is the Niners great player. Seymour is one of ours.
The defense should be fine come week 6 when we play them again.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, shore up the o-line, we win the division.
Trade for Gaither now Big Al the ‘Over Czar’, as Warren Sapp called him,lol.
Henderson,Gallery,Veldheer,Campbell,Gaither
That’s the line that we need.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# armond Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
agree with armchair that the whiners showed 2 much. they attacked this game as if it was a regular season game or it was personal. i was surprised to see them blitz as much and really get after it the way they did mention no chaz seymour cj and still trying to figure out our offensive flow. the penalties killed us more which bodes well for us in october. we kept it real vanilla and still had the lead when it counted. not to than anything including those 2 4th dwn gifts from the refs.
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That’s the point Armond!
Sometimes it’s ok to sacrifice a battle in order to win the war.
And the reality is if the true battle in a preseason game is the play of the starters, then our starters actually outplayed theirs.
To all the doubters, go back and check the score after 3 quarters.
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Selective memory.
Go back and check the stats and score at the half..while you’re at it listen to what Papa and Flores were saying, which is that the Niners were beating up on the Raiders.
After the first drive of the game, and up to the last minute or so of the first half, where Grad connected on the one deep ball, Raiders had a total of 7 yds….SEVEN…for a 22 or so minute span, most wouldn’t call that an awesome outing.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Seymour is NOT a great player.
did you watch last year?
He sucked.
After the first game of the year, where he actually tried, just to prove NE wrong, he all but disappeared.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Mario was beat like a drum.
Anyone still think he’s the answer?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
J wiggle
JC took a hard hit on the 1 sack they got, that was a bad break for him and the running game is better than that.
Of course there are atill some issues, but some guys here make it seem like we gave up 8 sacks to the Rams or something.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Damn It! This game sucked. Oline, McClain both underpreformed. WRs droped balls or would not fight for catchable balls. The surprize was our QBs played great! Last year everyone was ok but our QB play was to blame for our bad record. Now our QBs play great and the rest of the team sucks? WTF????
August 29th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Mario was beat like a drum.
Anyone still think he’s the answer?
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Ya, the answer to backing up our 2nd round pick in next years draft.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Seymour is NOT a great player.
did you watch last year?
He sucked.
After the first game of the year, where he actually tried, just to prove NE wrong, he all but disappeared.
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Lots of players go to Oaktown to disappear.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.
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Most of the 9ers big plays went through him.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
out!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
It’s hard to gauge McClain’s play so far, but it looks like at the very least he’s better at covering the tight ends he’s assigned than Morrison was.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Selective memory.
Go back and check the stats and score at the half..while you’re at it listen to what Papa and Flores were saying, which is that the Niners were beating up on the Raiders.
After the first drive of the game, and up to the last minute or so of the first half, where Grad connected on the one deep ball, Raiders had a total of 7 yds….SEVEN…for a 22 or so minute span, most wouldn’t call that an awesome outing.
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Ok I’m going to attempt to have a rational football conversation with you. Please try and keep up.
The Raiders and Niners actually played the majority of their starters for 3 quarters, not just 2.
So in order to evaluate the overall play of the STARTERS, you can’t stop at halftime, you have to look at ALL of the time that the starters played, which extended into the 3 quarter.
I know you love the Niners and everything, and that in your opinion “Michael Crabtree was the Steal of The Draft” two seasons ago, but you have to evaluate a game correctly in order to have a valid opinion.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
J Wiggle Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Marley,
What about JC getting hurt, and the stellar 12 yds rushing? I think that is what the Oline complainers are complaining about.
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Thank you J Wiggle. That was my concern as well…plus the FREEKN penalties.
The penalties actually p^ssed me off the most. Because for two games Pears and Gallery have negated big plays AND put the offense in 2nd and 3rd and forever.
We won’t win doing that.
Campbell got demolished on a couple of plays….the inside blitz by Willis and then Henderson just getting emasculated by the 49er DE.
Don’t forget the full body slam that Gradkowski took.
Our line has to step up big time. No penalties, protecting the QBs and protecting the running backs…DMAC got slammed as well.
Cant have that! Good it happened in preseason and not regular season. They have a lot of work between now and week 1.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Updated 53
QB Campbell, Grads, Boeller (3)
RB Bush, DMac, Bennett, Notwright (4)
FB Reece (1)
WR DHB, Murhphy, JLH, Ford, Chaz (5)
TE Miller, Meyers, Stewart (3)
OT Henderson, Walker, Barnes, Pears (4)
OG Gallery, Campbell, Carlisle, Loper (4)
C Veldheer, Satele (2)
DE Houston, Shaugnessy, Scott, Richardson (4)
DT Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, Bryant (4)
LB Wimbley, McClain, Brown, Howard, Williams, Goethel, Grove (7)
CB Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, McFadden, Ware (5)
S Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Eugene (4)
LS Condo (1)
P Lechler (1)
K Jano (1)
August 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Grads…Boller…Brennan…
Where do they rank? Who goes where, when the time comes?
What if Brennan looks good this week?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
McClain struggled at times, but so did the D-Line as well.
The D-LIne has to allow McClain to run clean. I didn’t see the replays or anything..but did that happen? Willis was running CLEAN and dominating…..
McClain gets a bye year as far as I am concerned.
As many of you know, I am not convinced our D-Line is up to the task yet. Just my opinion and D-Line play is something I will have to see to believe unfortunately!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.
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Most of the 9ers big plays went through him.
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Nah …
Went through Bryant with McClain getting caught up in Bryant’s 5 yard backward buckle.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
With the game on Thursday I believe, doubt JC will go, on a precautionary basis.
Bruce should start and play more than a normal “starter” would, Boller playing a ton, and Brennan handing the ball off to end it all.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I’m hoping that after a couple more years behind Richard Seymour, Bryant can step up in his place. But the past couple games it looks like the front four has missed Seymour’s presence. The Cowboys game was still the most impressive in terms of run defense.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
JFB,
I wouldn’t play JC or Gradkowski at this point.
Let’s see if its Boller or Brennan and move on.
No point in just running guys out there.
Our O-Line scares the hell out of me right now.
JC with a neck snapper….and Bruce took a full body slam.
Let Boller and Brennan work it and get ready for Tennessee….this team has a lot of work to do upfront
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.
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They were pretty impressive in the red zone, too. If they can consistently hold opposing offenses to field goals, it’s going to help the team a whole lot. They just have to work on stopping the big plays, too.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
As many of you know, I am not convinced our D-Line is up to the task yet.
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Considering that Niner starting rushers against Raider starting dline averaged over 7 ypc for 14 carries, d line is far from being up to task.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
J Wigg,
You autopicking in the draft??
Weaksauce!!!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I bet Brennan slings it, not just hand it off. I wanna see it, anyway.
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Seymour is NOT a great player.
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Richard Seymour is a four time All Pro, 5 time Pro Bowl DL with three Super Bowl rings. Where do you guys find some of these idiots that post here?
August 29th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
1 minute until Dell’s FF draft…
August 29th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
The Raiders and Niners actually played the majority of their starters for 3 quarters, not just 2.
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At the end of the day, people see what they want to see. Fact of the matter is the Raiders are light years ahead of where we were last season.
Starting with the QB position, we have 2 solid guys who can read defense, make the correct reads, and get the ball out.
RB position is solid with Bush and DMac. Bennett is a solid #3 option as well.
DHB is ready to play some football!
Henderson was brought in for Bryant and the run defense settled down nicely.
Routt is BALLIN!
McFadden and Ware look they can play week 1.
Play calling is WAY better than last year.
Just need to cut out the penalties and dropped balls.
17-24 pts per game EASY!
August 29th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Richard Seymour is a four time All Pro, 5 time Pro Bowl DL with three Super Bowl rings. Where do you guys find some of these idiots that post here?
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Moreover, I don’t recall him ever being a full-time 4-3 defensive end. He’s never been a sack machine, but he’s always helped his teams in other ways.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
We’re still looking for WR’s to play like professionals… I’d like to throw the ball 60% or more of the plays this week.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.
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They were pretty impressive in the red zone, too. If they can consistently hold opposing offenses to field goals, it’s going to help the team a whole lot. They just have to work on stopping the big plays, too.
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Yeah, but that’s not the way to play defense consistently. We need to get our share of 3 and outs.
Those big plays are distressing because they’ve happened 2 of 3 weeks. Last year they happened almost every game.
Those big plays kill this defense! They have to stop that mess
August 29th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
McClain actually played fairly well in coverage which was supposed to be his weak spot. Not great, but knowing Ro, it is something he will work on and improve.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Yeah, but that’s not the way to play defense consistently. We need to get our share of 3 and outs.
Those big plays are distressing because they’ve happened 2 of 3 weeks. Last year they happened almost every game.
Those big plays kill this defense! They have to stop that mess
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Oh, I definitely agree. But if the opposing team is going to be in the red zone, I’d rather see them leave with only a field goal than eating up the clock with a bunch of 4-yard running plays, which is what our second teamers let the 49ers do.
The big plays are my biggest concern with this defense, and in the system the Raiders run, consistent FS play has a lot to do with that. The Raiders simply can’t give up two 40+ yard plays every game.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Seymour is a PROFESSIONAL, superstar D-lineman…among other players, he is more highly regarded than probably 90% of his peer group.
If the Oakland Raiders turn their dismal ways around, and make some Playoff hay for the next few years, Richard Seymour will be on his way to the Hall Of Fame…with AL DAVIS making the introduction speech, while standing on bionic legs.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Looks like Coles is retiring…
August 29th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
tscott made one silly play where he had a clear hole to run thru to meet the fb but ran right up houstons back allowing the fb to meet him instead. that allowed dixon to hit the hole and branch just misses him. what really messed it up afterwards is huff sat back and let dixon get low. huff had a clear path to hit the hole when brach was flying in to stop dix from getting more than 4 yards. well huff let him get into his body and tackled him forward an extra 3-4 yards.clear example of people saying huff needs to be aggressive. attack the damn rb!! also didnt help kelly got pushed up high by the rg and then shoved sideways by the c. where is brian to talk sh!t about that?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Look for the team to learn, and improve from this game… This will make the youngsters better in the long run…
August 29th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
anyone got a link to the replay?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Regarding our O-line play: The Raiders haven’t had a decent O-line since we installed the ZBS. Every successful Raider O-Line has been a power blocking type line. Am I the only one to see that A minus B equals C? Trash this ZBS – we can’t continually win with it. Last nights loss really exposed the O-Line. We knew the problem was there and now it’s official. Veldheer needs to start at center. He’s that much better than Satele. He’ll learn his calls – he’s a quick learner. Henderson is a stopgap OLT. We need to quickly develop BCampbell to replace him. Quite possibly, Henderson will be OK at the ORT position. RG needs to be replaced. Move Walker there as he’s having problems with 1 on 1 protection when out in the open.
Regarding the running game:
DMac is NOT an NFL caliber RB. The experiment needs to be over. We all suspected it and now we know for sure. Putting DMac in the backfield as a RB is a waste of a down. Move him to WR now and run him out of the slot. He’ll be able to contribute there. BUsh, Bennett & Cartwright should be the #!, 2 & 3 RB. Reece would seem to have solidified the starting FB position. Let’s keep an eye out for the NY Jets FB castoffs. There may be some gold there.
Regarding the defense:
Where do we begin? They just didn’t play as well as they should have. Huff needs to learn how to tackle. That or replace him with MM34. We still need that BIG NT. That should be our first priority in next years draft. ROMC’s rookiness showed. He was out of position too many times. That will improve with more NFL playing time. Routt did a decent job at CB. The backup CB’s & Safeties also were OK for the most part. Our 3’s weren’t as good as theirs.
Regarding ST:
We need better coaching there. Figurs is not the answer nor is Cartwright at KOR. Use Ford or NMiller and let’s move on. Same for PR. We need better return blocking schemes – need to open more lanes. Our kicking game is the best in the NFL……PERIOD. Good job by both Jano & Lechler – but that’s no surprise.
Regarding our receivers:
We are set at TE – no problems there. DHB looked improved over last year so I’ll cut him some slack – at least for 1 more year. Murphy should be our #2 WR. He’s a player and will help us win some games. He does need to improve on his concentration as he should have not dropped at least two passes that I recall. Watkins is gone. Should have had that last second pass. That’s what the caches will remember. We need to see more Ford & NMiller. Figurs gets cut so he’s gone with Watkins. Move DMac to slot WR now. JLH made more than his share of dumb plays last night. I’m not sure he survives.
Regarding the coaching:
I understand that last night was plain vanilla night so I won’t comment on the play calling. Rather, I comment on Cable generically. He’s now in charge of the time outs and he did ok there. Good call on Jano’s FG if in fact that was his idea. He needs to focus his efforts on two main things. First, he needs to convince AD the DMac is a liability in the backfield and get a green light to move him to WR. Second, he needs to scrap the ZBS and install a power blocking scheme that works. He’s suppose to be the O-Line guru so let’s see some magic.
Regarding the owner/GM:
He needs to immediately find us a BIG NT for the defense and to make a deal for an ORT. I would have also said OLT but you are not going to find one of those, you have to draft and develop your own. AD also has to cross he bridge like he did with JaLoser and admit that DMac is not who he thought he was and to make the best out of what he can do right – receive passes. He also needs to make it clear to Tom Cable that this team will go back to power blocking now or at least as quickly as possible.
Summary:
I seen this team look worse so it’s not all bad. We’ll meet the Niners in the season and I think the results will be different next time. Am I an optionmist? Probably, but we are going to win some games this year as soon as the problems I’ve mentioned are fixed.
Some obvious discards:
They include Pears, Figurs, Heard, Morris, Rodd, Watkins, Tonga, Joseph, Gunheim, Eugene,Thomas & Norris. That will be a good start.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
AL DAVIS making the introduction speech, while standing on bionic legs.
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Hahaha, this reminds me of the end of that one Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns tracks down his bear Bobo a thousand years in the future. Anyone else remember that scene?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Selective memory.
Go back and check the stats and score at the half..while you’re at it listen to what Papa and Flores were saying, which is that the Niners were beating up on the Raiders.
After the first drive of the game, and up to the last minute or so of the first half, where Grad connected on the one deep ball, Raiders had a total of 7 yds….SEVEN…for a 22 or so minute span, most wouldn’t call that an awesome outing.
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Ok I’m going to attempt to have a rational football conversation with you. Please try and keep up.
The Raiders and Niners actually played the majority of their starters for 3 quarters, not just 2.
So in order to evaluate the overall play of the STARTERS, you can’t stop at halftime, you have to look at ALL of the time that the starters played, which extended into the 3 quarter.
I know you love the Niners and everything, and that in your opinion “Michael Crabtree was the Steal of The Draft” two seasons ago, but you have to evaluate a game correctly in order to have a valid opinion.
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First off, you’re viewed by many as being “slow” and “clueless” for a reason.
I’m just one on a long list that agree you do abuse the right to be pathetic.
Pay attention, peanut.
I’ll say it slowly…when Raider ANNOUNCERS state “The Niners are just beating up on the Raiders at this point”, even those vertically challenged, such as you, can figure out things aren’t good.
And what part of the Niners top three threats were on the bench CONFUSED YOU? I know..it’s a toss up, isn’t it?
Gore played one series, peanut.
Vernon Davis didn’t suit up, peanut.
Crabtree (the steal of the draft, who everyone on the planet knows is light years above Bey, who STILL hasn’t learned how to catch a football) also didn’t suit up.
You still confused, peanut?
BTW..why be a glutton for punishment?
Why bring up Crab?
Here, foolish child..tell me which receiver was THE BETTER CHOICE?
Crab played 11 games
First 11 games.
Bey 9 catches. 124 yds. 0 Td’s
Crab 48 catches 625 yds. 2 Td’s
Still haven’t said what your previous, obviously slapped down, handle was…
You that embarrassed?
I can see why..now shut up before you hurt yourself anymore.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
BigLefty Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Watched the game again
2nd team D-Line got absolutey worked. Every play! Really asked a lot of the 2nd team Backers and Safeties to cover and stop the run.
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where can you watch the game again?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I know its preseaon but im glad DHB caught some passes
August 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
another tscott fugg up tho it didnt cost us. remeber the 3rd and short play to moran norris that got stood up? adavis and bynam take on houston with rachal on kelly. kelly and houston hold up well leaving scott free to norris. norris hits a wall with his front facing the backfield. scott has a clear shot to pull him away from the los and even to strip the ball yet he is TACKLING rachal. wtf?? good thing we had a wall built or norris wouldve just had a unnecessary 1rst down made.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
The Whiners only mounted any offense the second Tommie Kelly went out and John Henderson came in. Kelly played VERY well in that game at NT. So much for what that guy who calls himself the bauce thinks.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# tazZraider Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
BigLefty Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Watched the game again
2nd team D-Line got absolutey worked. Every play! Really asked a lot of the 2nd team Backers and Safeties to cover and stop the run.
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where can you watch the game again?
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if you are local they are reboadcasting the game on 36.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Since Mr. Routt has been playing so well, could Mr. Chris Johnson’s contract make him a cut casualty?
August 29th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
We need to keep Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Branch, Mr. Bowie, and Mr. McFadden at safety positions, also keep Mr. Huff until we can trade him. Huff is great at covering TEs, just lousy against the run.
CBs of course keep the one that QBs and Coaches fear the most, keep Routt, like Nnamdi just took a couple years to mold, keep C. Johnson as he is a great tackling CB, and definately keep Mr. McFadden.
McFadden & Steveie Brown will not survive the waiver wire to place on our practice squad!
August 29th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Walter McFadden & Steveie Brown will not survive the waiver wire to place on our practice squad!
They must be on our 53-man roster!
August 29th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
McFadden & Steveie Brown will not survive the waiver wire to place on our practice squad!
They must be on our 53-man roster!
If I remember correctly, Raiders cannot franchise tag Mr. Asomugha, it was part of the cb’s [qb] contract.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
That and they’ve earned it!
August 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Perhaps one you semi-pro coaches who have already “broken tape” can help me out here..
There was a running play in the 1st. qtr. that D-Mac was tackled for a loss, I couldn’t make out whether it was a finger tip from a 9er, or a hash mark that brought him down…Thanks in advance..
August 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Perhaps one you semi-pro coaches who have already “broken tape” can help me out here..
There was a running play in the 1st. qtr. that D-Mac was tackled for a loss, I couldn’t make out whether it was a finger tip from a 9er, or a hash mark that brought him down…Thanks in advance..
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Me thinks it was the leg of one Pooper (sp?) Carlisle.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Perhaps one you semi-pro coaches who have already “broken tape” can help me out here..
There was a running play in the 1st. qtr. that D-Mac was tackled for a loss, I couldn’t make out whether it was a finger tip from a 9er, or a hash mark that brought him down…Thanks in advance..
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Neither a Whiner finger, nor one of the has marks. He tripped on one of the offensive linemens lower legs. Look at the bright side: at least he didn’t fumble.
August 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
# Just Win Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
The Whiners only mounted any offense the second Tommie Kelly went out and John Henderson came in. Kelly played VERY well in that game at NT. So much for what that guy who calls himself the bauce thinks.
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“guy who calls himself the bauce”??
Wow.
You fooled us, SeyOakDork…no…really..you did.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
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I don’t abuse children or women so I’ll go easy on you.
You have danced all over the issue at hand and changed your story as usual because you have no rational argument. hell you don’t even have a football team that you root for, at least publicly.
Fact is, the true assessment of this game is hoe the STARTERS played.
Now get your little VCR out, and rewind it and add up how many quarters the STARTERS for both teams played. I know you only have a pre school education, so I’ll be patient.
Over the course of 3 quarters(which is the entire length of time that the starters from both teams played) the Raiders outplayed your little team of sissies.
Yes Craptree, Gore, and Davis sat out alot. But so did Seymour, Nnamdi, Chris Johnson, and Chaz Schilens.
You are a mental midget who cannot defend her points with logic, so you jump all around the issues.
Tell us how long the majority of starters played for both teams and what the score was at the point when the starters for both teams left the game.
It’s basic math but I know it will probably take the rest of the week for you to figure it out.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Whatever we do, do not sign Leinhart, should he get cut by the Cardinals.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
*how. But the other word I used is appropriate for Ricochet as well.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS HUFF SUCS.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Just Win…
Yes, amazing that he held on to the ball on that one..
My bad, I could have swore I saw it was one of those pesky hash marks that got him, seems to happen at least once a game for him…
August 29th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
HUFF NEEDS TO GO BACK TO TEXAS AND ON THE WAY THERE DROP OFF J.L.H.IN HIS TOWN.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
# Just Win Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
The Whiners only mounted any offense the second Tommie Kelly went out and John Henderson came in. Kelly played VERY well in that game at NT. So much for what that guy who calls himself the bauce thinks.
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“guy who calls himself the bauce”??
Wow.
You fooled us, SeyOakDork…no…really..you did.
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You call every other person in here the same name. You have lost it fool. Really lost it. No, you never had it to begin with.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
big pep Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
HUFF NEEDS TO GO BACK TO TEXAS AND ON THE WAY THERE DROP OFF J.L.H.IN HIS TOWN.
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lol
August 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
realizing it’s wishful thinking, since Jets are looking for a linebacker and short a DB; Raiders should trade Mr. Howard and Mr. Huff for the rights to Darrel Revis. Al will sign him.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Big Pep, Question about your handle is Pep a nickname?
August 29th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I’m one who has been very disappointed in drafting Huff in the firat round, but at least we didn’t draft hollywood wannabe, Leinhart.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Head Coach cable’s future will be known by game 3.
Raiders must be 2-1, we cannot lose to either St. Louis or Arizona unless we upset Tennessee.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
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I don’t abuse children or women so I’ll go easy on you.
You have danced all over the issue at hand and changed your story as usual because you have no rational argument. hell you don’t even have a football team that you root for, at least publicly.
Fact is, the true assessment of this game is hoe the STARTERS played.
Now get your little VCR out, and rewind it and add up how many quarters the STARTERS for both teams played. I know you only have a pre school education, so I’ll be patient.
Over the course of 3 quarters(which is the entire length of time that the starters from both teams played) the Raiders outplayed your little team of sissies.
Yes Craptree, Gore, and Davis sat out alot. But so did Seymour, Nnamdi, Chris Johnson, and Chaz Schilens.
You are a mental midget who cannot defend her points with logic, so you jump all around the issues.
Tell us how long the majority of starters played for both teams and what the score was at the point when the starters for both teams left the game.
It’s basic math but I know it will probably take the rest of the week for you to figure it out.
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amen to that!!
August 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Raiders could be 2-2 or 3-1 going into week 5 playing San Diego at home.
As long as we beat the Chargers and we are at least 3-2 Raiders have a solid opportunity to win the AFC West.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
MY NAME IS JOSE BUT WE ARE ALSO CALLED (PEPE) SO PEP FOR SHORT.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Where did you guys find that richochet idiot? In the dumpsters at Candlestick?
August 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
big pep Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
MY NAME IS JOSE BUT WE ARE ALSO CALLED (PEPE) SO PEP FOR SHORT.
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Thanks for the update, and the laughs on the privious post…
August 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Before bye-week [week 10], I see 4-5 must, should dominate victories: Rams (H), Cardinals (A), Broncos(A), Seahwks (H), Chiefs (H). [record 4-1/strong possibility of 5-0]
Most important game is versus the Chargers (H). [1-0]
Between Titans (A), Texans (H), and 49er’s (H [actually nontechnically speaking a home game]) are all winnable games. each of these opponents have weaknesses we could and should exploit. [1-2]
6-3 record is more than feasible going into our bye-week. I would much rather have beaten the Chargers than be 2-1 versus our toughest non-divisional opponents.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Heres a good one for you.
Trade McFadden & Heyward Bay to the Chargers for Vicent Jackson.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I see ten wins, since we have Colts (H) in week 16 [our 15th game], should the Colts be 13-1.12-2 and have their division won again, they could throw that game like they usually do, so even that game is winnable.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
We need to keep DHB at least one more year.
For those that remember old school Raiders’ football, it took Mr. Branch, (yes that one) a couple years to develop into a pro-bowl wide receiver.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
IVE BEEN TO THE TOWN J.L.H. COMES FROM, I JUST DONT SEE WHY HE DONT WORK HARDER TO STAY AWAY FROM THERE, I GUESS EVERYONE HAS A BIT OF PRIDE FROM WHERE THEY COME FROM, BUT GOOD GOD YOU OUGHT TO SEE THAT PLACE.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
D.H.B LOOK GOOD LAST NIGHT ON THOSE CATCHES LITE YEARS AHEAD OF J.L.H. DMAC LOOKS FAST BUT OUR O-LINE NEEDS TO BLOCK FOR HIM.
August 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Sigh, Raiders!!!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/the_silver_and_the_black_raider_evaluations_good_and_bad
August 29th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
I think we will keep DHB more than a year…
August 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Hope Tyvon gets his coverage thing figured out. Hope Huff steps up in the regs…
August 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Tyvon needs to step up against TEs in particular. Witten victimized him in the first preseason game.
August 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
jason campbell expected to return for season opener
August 29th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Both lines are weak. Same ol story, same ol song and dance.
August 29th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
The game was live in Los Angeles
Tivo’d it watched it and watched it again
August 29th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Jimmy Raye is the Raiders best friend! Every raider fan should send him a thank you card for botching up both the Niners first two drives.
August 30th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Special teams was especially horrible. That’s going to need to improve if we are going to be successful.
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