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Raiders-49ers postgame wrap

News, notes, quotes and observations following the Raiders’ 28-24 loss to the 49ers Saturday night at the Coliseum:

– Here is how coach Tom Cable responded when asked if he expected Jason Campbell to be available for the season opener after being sidelined by a stinger following a sack by Travis LaBoy.

“Yeah, I do. At this point it does not seem to be a serious issue.”

A “stinger,” or “burner” is described as a “`nerve injury resulting from trauma to the neck and shoulder. Its primary symptom is burning pain radiating down one upper extremity.”

It can be a brief injury or something that can take weeks to heal.

Campbell admitted that as he was lying on the field he was a lot more concerned than when he addressed reporters following he game.

“It felt a lot worse at the time that it happened, but thank God … they don’t think it’s going to be really, really serious,” Campbell said. “But at the same time it’s something we’ve got to take care of before the season starts.”

In Campbell’s case, it’s a concern because stingers tend to be a recurring injury and it’s not the first time he’s had one.

“Yeah, I had one before. It felt a little bit more than a stinger at the time,’’ Campbell said. “Just trying to take (precautions). Trying to get up. At the same time, I couldn’t really feel a lot because it was down the back of my neck a little bit. We went to get it X-rayed to see what’s going on.

“Usually I recover pretty fast. Right now there’s no timetable. The thing is just to improve and continue to keep getting better. We don’t know the timetable or anything, but at the same time, I haven’t really missed any time before.” At the time of his injury, Campbell was 6 of 8 for 93 yards with a quarterback rating of 113.0, including a gorgeous game-opening eight-play, 81-yard drive.

“I thought I was doing great,’’ Campbell said. “I felt we were doing what we needed to do. Took the first drive down there and scored. Penalties hurt us after that.’’

–Bush fractured his left thumb on his seventh and final carry. He gained 23 yards and scored a touchdown on a 1-yard run.

“A safety came down, instead of getting my legs he got my hand and the ball,’’ Bush said. “That’s part of the game.’’

Bush said he wouldn’t know his status until he talked the medical staff Sunday, but it wasn’t an encouraging sight to see Michael Bennett tying his shoes in the locker room. He said he’s never played with a broken bone his hand before but noted optimistically, “It’s just the hand, hopefully I’ll be back, I mean, a hand to a leg is totally different. I broke my leg and I bounced back from that and I’ll do the same with my hand.’’

– -If Kyle Boller had drawn even in the race to be Campbell’s backup, Bruce Gradkowski hit the third-quarter turn on a dead sprint to pull back ahead.

Gradkowski completed 14 of 22 passes for 202 yards, touchdowns passes of74 yards to Louis Murphy and 27 yards to Zach Miller, no interceptions, and a 123.7 quarterback rating.

The first touchdown came in the final two minutes of the first half to put the Raiders within 17-14, and then he opened the second half with a 72-yard, nine-play drive which culminated in the throw to Miller.

If that wasn’t enough, Gradkowski had a deep heave drop through the hands of Todd Watkins inside the 5-yard line on fourth-and-9 from the 40-yard line and 1:14 to play. Watkins attempted to take the pass in over his shoulder and couldn’t reel it in.

“I haven’t been out there so it was good to get the feel of the first team,’’ Gradkowski said. “It was good to play almost three quarters. It was really good to get back out there and get a feel.’’

For any of you who think Gradkowski is making a run at Campbell for the starting role, here was how Cable assessed his performance:

“Bruce Gradkowski was one of the bright spots in terms of going in there and having some efficiency and move the club around fairly well,’’ Cable said. “I think that’s what you want from your backup quarterback and he showed himself very well that way.’’

Backup quarterback.

– The 49ers rushed for 165 yards on 33 carries, with the first team defense getting gashed for big plays (Frank Gore’s 49-yard run) and the reserves getting hit for a lot of little ones.

“I didn’t think we tackled particularly well tonight,’’ Cable said. “We had plenty of guys where we needed them. I just did not think early we tackled very well at all.’’

– Here’s the positive spin:

“Would love to win the football game without any question but more than anything we learned a lot about ourselves tonight,’’ Cable said. “We have a chance to have a very good football team but we have to do it our way.

“We have to do it all out all the time and I think there’s too many ups and downs in this football game for us to be who we need to be to succeed. A lot to learn from it, and that’s a good thing. I’m glad it happened now as opposed to a few weeks from now.’’

It’s worth noting Richard Seymour was rested because of his triceps injury.

– The early review on rookie center Jared Veldheer, starting in place of Samson Satele:

“I think you have to look at the film for that. I can remember one, there was a run through by a linebacker, (Patrick) Willis, one time that was on him but overall I think he directed the protections well,’’ Cable said. “He really didn’t show up as the game went on so that’s a good sign. But we’ll have to look at the film.

Cable, of course, wanted to see more film.

– Raiders quarterbacks were 20 of 30 for 295 yards and that included four or five dropped passes of varying degrees of difficulty.

– No return specialists stepped forward to do anything of note. The longest punt return was 11 yards by Johnnie Lee Higgins on a kick that he fielded at the 4-yard line rather than let bounce in the end zone.

Phillip Adams wasn’t even listed on the flip card as a specialist for the 49ers, but had an 83-yard punt return for a touchdown in which he wasn’t touched.

Ken Jurovich of the 49ers had a 48-yard kickoff return one play after Sebastian Janikowski’s touchback was nullified because Higgins was offsides.

– Linebacker Rolando McClain led the Raiders with eight tackles and made a few plays but was victimized on a few others.

–The Raiders played it fairly straight defensively, which everyone expected they would, given their regular-season game against the 49ers in October.

– Attendance was announced at 42,248, which of course represents tickets sold and in no way reflected the actual amount of fans in the park.

– Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight’s live chat.

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  • Dude

    Armchair GM= new head idiot of this blog.

    “thats why the Niners are supid to do that in preseason” LOL!! Lets all pretend that this clown knows anything about what the 9ers will do in the reg season.

  • http://raidersfans.net Just Win

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    # Just Win Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    J Wiggle Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    How many times are we going to let Willis come in UNBLOCKED?
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    That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.
    ______________________________________________________

    And that’s also why the Niners were stupid to do that in a preseason game. Now THE ROOKIE and his coaches will study that film and be prepared for it come week 6.
    ================================================

    Exactly right. Veldheer did look pretty good pile blocking on that lst drive. So did Gallery. Of course Abrayo Franklin is on the sideline drinking soda which makes a difference.

  • HayesDaze37

    The Raiders’ O will practice against every blitz known to mankind. The rookie showing a mental weakness that was exploited by a good Defense will be a learning experience…but there was nothing fancy about the play/s where he got burned, and he quickly recognizes and corrects his mistakes.

    Neither team last night revealed anything that the other side didn’t already know existed.

    One thing is certain, though…Tom Cable’s job is relying on Tom Cable doing the job of molding a dominant O-Line. That only happens with a fresh body or two on it.

  • RaiderLen

    What I do know about the 49ers game during the regular season is that Gore, Crabtree,and V Davis will be on the field for 4 quarters if healthy.

    The Raiders had better have their stuff together.

  • ArmChair GM

    # Dude Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Armchair GM= new head idiot of this blog.

    “thats why the Niners are supid to do that in preseason” LOL!! Lets all pretend that this clown knows anything about what the 9ers will do in the reg season.
    _______________________________________________________

    And we’ll also pretend that you know anything about football. Otherwise you wouldn’t have posted that the play of the starters in a preseason game is meaningless.

    It may be meaningless to the casual fan, or the local village idiot like yourself, but to the coaches, the lessons and film study gained is invaluable.

  • J Wiggle

    Clean up the self destructive crap, i.e
    penalties, dropped passes, special teams gaffes, and we should be ok.

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    There it is!

  • J Wiggle

    That’s what happens when you start a rookie at center who never played center and then throw stunts and blitzes at him.

    ——————————————————-

    Veldheer missed one block yesterday.

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    Yeah, the OL absolutely sucks if you go by the comments in here, here’s actual proof:

    “The 49ers learned how the NFC West will never be won … and that’s for their starting defense to allow 21 points, 248 total yards and a 70.5 percent completion rate in more than two quarters of play.

    Sure, the backup crews rallied to save the day in a 28-24 victory over the Raiders in an exhibition game Saturday at the Coliseum.

    Just don’t think 49ers coach Mike Singletary forgot what the first-half defense did by the end of the game.

    “We really didn’t do a good job consistently …I was going to send our first-team defense back out there.” Singletary said of his first-team defense, which played into the third quarter for the first time this exhibition season.

    The starting 11 may have been fine with that. They, too, were embarrassed to let the Raiders pass for two touchdowns and punch in a goal-line run into the end zone.

    The starting pass rush netted a single quarterback sack.

    The starting secondary allowed 236 passing yards.”

    I guess the OL had nothing to do with it.

  • RaiderLen

    Veldheer missed one block yesterday.
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    Tom Flores said he did not see any drop off at the C position, from the rookie Velhdeer.

    From my perspective, and opinion of Satele, that could be viewed as a back handed compliment.

    However, I think what it really means is that Velhdeer is probably as good if not better than sdatele right now.

  • Thec07

    V <——- Looked good at C, should start day 1…

    For the first time in ages we had a real pocket, with a ton of time to throw…

  • J Wiggle

    Marley,

    What about JC getting hurt, and the stellar 12 yds rushing? I think that is what the Oline complainers are complaining about.

  • ArmChair GM

    The main concern I have is the instability on the O-line. With Seymour back, the D should be much more stout up front.

    You can’t underestimate the importance of Richard Seymour’s absence on the line because he’s only “one player”, and then hype up Patrick Willis on the other side. After all if he was out of the lineup last night, then 75% of those defensive plays the Niners made don’t get made either.

    Great players get paid to make great plays.
    Willis is the Niners great player. Seymour is one of ours.

    The defense should be fine come week 6 when we play them again.

    I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, shore up the o-line, we win the division.

    Trade for Gaither now Big Al the ‘Over Czar’, as Warren Sapp called him,lol.

    Henderson,Gallery,Veldheer,Campbell,Gaither

    That’s the line that we need.

  • http://www.nataliegulbis.com Richochet

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    # armond Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    agree with armchair that the whiners showed 2 much. they attacked this game as if it was a regular season game or it was personal. i was surprised to see them blitz as much and really get after it the way they did mention no chaz seymour cj and still trying to figure out our offensive flow. the penalties killed us more which bodes well for us in october. we kept it real vanilla and still had the lead when it counted. not to than anything including those 2 4th dwn gifts from the refs.
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    That’s the point Armond!

    Sometimes it’s ok to sacrifice a battle in order to win the war.

    And the reality is if the true battle in a preseason game is the play of the starters, then our starters actually outplayed theirs.

    To all the doubters, go back and check the score after 3 quarters.

    =========================
    Selective memory.
    Go back and check the stats and score at the half..while you’re at it listen to what Papa and Flores were saying, which is that the Niners were beating up on the Raiders.
    After the first drive of the game, and up to the last minute or so of the first half, where Grad connected on the one deep ball, Raiders had a total of 7 yds….SEVEN…for a 22 or so minute span, most wouldn’t call that an awesome outing.

  • http://www.nataliegulbis.com Richochet

    Seymour is NOT a great player.
    did you watch last year?
    He sucked.
    After the first game of the year, where he actually tried, just to prove NE wrong, he all but disappeared.

  • http://www.nataliegulbis.com Richochet

    Mario was beat like a drum.

    Anyone still think he’s the answer?

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    J wiggle

    JC took a hard hit on the 1 sack they got, that was a bad break for him and the running game is better than that.

    Of course there are atill some issues, but some guys here make it seem like we gave up 8 sacks to the Rams or something.

  • RNOraiderFan

    Damn It! This game sucked. Oline, McClain both underpreformed. WRs droped balls or would not fight for catchable balls. The surprize was our QBs played great! Last year everyone was ok but our QB play was to blame for our bad record. Now our QBs play great and the rest of the team sucks? WTF????

  • RNOraiderFan

    Mario was beat like a drum.

    Anyone still think he’s the answer?
    *********************************************
    Ya, the answer to backing up our 2nd round pick in next years draft.

  • Just Fire Baby

    McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.

  • RNOraiderFan

    Seymour is NOT a great player.
    did you watch last year?
    He sucked.
    After the first game of the year, where he actually tried, just to prove NE wrong, he all but disappeared.
    ***********************************************
    Lots of players go to Oaktown to disappear.

  • RNOraiderFan

    McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.
    ************************************************
    Most of the 9ers big plays went through him.

  • RNOraiderFan

    out!

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    It’s hard to gauge McClain’s play so far, but it looks like at the very least he’s better at covering the tight ends he’s assigned than Morrison was.

  • ArmChair GM

    # Richochet Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Selective memory.
    Go back and check the stats and score at the half..while you’re at it listen to what Papa and Flores were saying, which is that the Niners were beating up on the Raiders.
    After the first drive of the game, and up to the last minute or so of the first half, where Grad connected on the one deep ball, Raiders had a total of 7 yds….SEVEN…for a 22 or so minute span, most wouldn’t call that an awesome outing.
    ___________________________________________________
    Ok I’m going to attempt to have a rational football conversation with you. Please try and keep up.

    The Raiders and Niners actually played the majority of their starters for 3 quarters, not just 2.

    So in order to evaluate the overall play of the STARTERS, you can’t stop at halftime, you have to look at ALL of the time that the starters played, which extended into the 3 quarter.

    I know you love the Niners and everything, and that in your opinion “Michael Crabtree was the Steal of The Draft” two seasons ago, but you have to evaluate a game correctly in order to have a valid opinion.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    J Wiggle Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
    Marley,

    What about JC getting hurt, and the stellar 12 yds rushing? I think that is what the Oline complainers are complaining about.
    ===================================================
    Thank you J Wiggle. That was my concern as well…plus the FREEKN penalties.

    The penalties actually p^ssed me off the most. Because for two games Pears and Gallery have negated big plays AND put the offense in 2nd and 3rd and forever.

    We won’t win doing that.

    Campbell got demolished on a couple of plays….the inside blitz by Willis and then Henderson just getting emasculated by the 49er DE.

    Don’t forget the full body slam that Gradkowski took.

    Our line has to step up big time. No penalties, protecting the QBs and protecting the running backs…DMAC got slammed as well.

    Cant have that! Good it happened in preseason and not regular season. They have a lot of work between now and week 1.

  • J Wiggle

    Updated 53

    QB Campbell, Grads, Boeller (3)

    RB Bush, DMac, Bennett, Notwright (4)

    FB Reece (1)

    WR DHB, Murhphy, JLH, Ford, Chaz (5)

    TE Miller, Meyers, Stewart (3)

    OT Henderson, Walker, Barnes, Pears (4)

    OG Gallery, Campbell, Carlisle, Loper (4)

    C Veldheer, Satele (2)

    DE Houston, Shaugnessy, Scott, Richardson (4)

    DT Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, Bryant (4)

    LB Wimbley, McClain, Brown, Howard, Williams, Goethel, Grove (7)

    CB Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, McFadden, Ware (5)

    S Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Eugene (4)

    LS Condo (1)

    P Lechler (1)

    K Jano (1)

  • HayesDaze37

    Grads…Boller…Brennan…

    Where do they rank? Who goes where, when the time comes?

    What if Brennan looks good this week?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    McClain struggled at times, but so did the D-Line as well.

    The D-LIne has to allow McClain to run clean. I didn’t see the replays or anything..but did that happen? Willis was running CLEAN and dominating…..

    McClain gets a bye year as far as I am concerned.

    As many of you know, I am not convinced our D-Line is up to the task yet. Just my opinion and D-Line play is something I will have to see to believe unfortunately!

  • J Wiggle

    McClain struggled at times, but at least seemed like he worked through it and got better as the game went on.
    ************************************************
    Most of the 9ers big plays went through him.

    —————————————————–

    Nah …

    Went through Bryant with McClain getting caught up in Bryant’s 5 yard backward buckle.

  • Just Fire Baby

    With the game on Thursday I believe, doubt JC will go, on a precautionary basis.

    Bruce should start and play more than a normal “starter” would, Boller playing a ton, and Brennan handing the ball off to end it all.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    I’m hoping that after a couple more years behind Richard Seymour, Bryant can step up in his place. But the past couple games it looks like the front four has missed Seymour’s presence. The Cowboys game was still the most impressive in terms of run defense.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    JFB,

    I wouldn’t play JC or Gradkowski at this point.

    Let’s see if its Boller or Brennan and move on.

    No point in just running guys out there.

    Our O-Line scares the hell out of me right now.

    JC with a neck snapper….and Bruce took a full body slam.

    Let Boller and Brennan work it and get ready for Tennessee….this team has a lot of work to do upfront

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.

    —————-

    They were pretty impressive in the red zone, too. If they can consistently hold opposing offenses to field goals, it’s going to help the team a whole lot. They just have to work on stopping the big plays, too.

  • http://www.nataliegulbis.com Richochet

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    As many of you know, I am not convinced our D-Line is up to the task yet.
    =========================
    Considering that Niner starting rushers against Raider starting dline averaged over 7 ypc for 14 carries, d line is far from being up to task.

  • Just Fire Baby

    J Wigg,

    You autopicking in the draft??

    Weaksauce!!!

  • HayesDaze37

    I bet Brennan slings it, not just hand it off. I wanna see it, anyway.

  • http://raidersfans.net Just Win

    Richochet Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Seymour is NOT a great player.
    =================================

    Richard Seymour is a four time All Pro, 5 time Pro Bowl DL with three Super Bowl rings. Where do you guys find some of these idiots that post here?

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    1 minute until Dell’s FF draft…

  • J Wiggle

    The Raiders and Niners actually played the majority of their starters for 3 quarters, not just 2.

    ——————————————————-

    At the end of the day, people see what they want to see. Fact of the matter is the Raiders are light years ahead of where we were last season.

    Starting with the QB position, we have 2 solid guys who can read defense, make the correct reads, and get the ball out.

    RB position is solid with Bush and DMac. Bennett is a solid #3 option as well.

    DHB is ready to play some football!

    Henderson was brought in for Bryant and the run defense settled down nicely.

    Routt is BALLIN!

    McFadden and Ware look they can play week 1.

    Play calling is WAY better than last year.

    Just need to cut out the penalties and dropped balls.

    17-24 pts per game EASY!

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    Richard Seymour is a four time All Pro, 5 time Pro Bowl DL with three Super Bowl rings. Where do you guys find some of these idiots that post here?

    ———–

    Moreover, I don’t recall him ever being a full-time 4-3 defensive end. He’s never been a sack machine, but he’s always helped his teams in other ways.

  • HayesDaze37

    We’re still looking for WR’s to play like professionals… I’d like to throw the ball 60% or more of the plays this week.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    On a positive note: The defense played well on 3rd and 4ht and short..when a run was predictable.

    —————-

    They were pretty impressive in the red zone, too. If they can consistently hold opposing offenses to field goals, it’s going to help the team a whole lot. They just have to work on stopping the big plays, too.
    ==================================================
    Yeah, but that’s not the way to play defense consistently. We need to get our share of 3 and outs.

    Those big plays are distressing because they’ve happened 2 of 3 weeks. Last year they happened almost every game.

    Those big plays kill this defense! They have to stop that mess

  • http://raidersfans.net Just Win

    McClain actually played fairly well in coverage which was supposed to be his weak spot. Not great, but knowing Ro, it is something he will work on and improve.

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    Yeah, but that’s not the way to play defense consistently. We need to get our share of 3 and outs.

    Those big plays are distressing because they’ve happened 2 of 3 weeks. Last year they happened almost every game.

    Those big plays kill this defense! They have to stop that mess

    ————

    Oh, I definitely agree. But if the opposing team is going to be in the red zone, I’d rather see them leave with only a field goal than eating up the clock with a bunch of 4-yard running plays, which is what our second teamers let the 49ers do.

    The big plays are my biggest concern with this defense, and in the system the Raiders run, consistent FS play has a lot to do with that. The Raiders simply can’t give up two 40+ yard plays every game.

  • HayesDaze37

    Seymour is a PROFESSIONAL, superstar D-lineman…among other players, he is more highly regarded than probably 90% of his peer group.

    If the Oakland Raiders turn their dismal ways around, and make some Playoff hay for the next few years, Richard Seymour will be on his way to the Hall Of Fame…with AL DAVIS making the introduction speech, while standing on bionic legs.

  • TheyCallMeAssassin

    Looks like Coles is retiring…

  • armond

    tscott made one silly play where he had a clear hole to run thru to meet the fb but ran right up houstons back allowing the fb to meet him instead. that allowed dixon to hit the hole and branch just misses him. what really messed it up afterwards is huff sat back and let dixon get low. huff had a clear path to hit the hole when brach was flying in to stop dix from getting more than 4 yards. well huff let him get into his body and tackled him forward an extra 3-4 yards.clear example of people saying huff needs to be aggressive. attack the damn rb!! also didnt help kelly got pushed up high by the rg and then shoved sideways by the c. where is brian to talk sh!t about that?

  • Thec07

    Look for the team to learn, and improve from this game… This will make the youngsters better in the long run…

  • Hobs Gnarly

    anyone got a link to the replay?