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Cable Q&A

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, August 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A transcript of Raiders coach Tom Cable’s conference call with Bay Area media Sunday evening, starting with injury updates:

Cable: (Chaz) Schilens with the knee, obviously, it’s going to be a three to six week issue for us. Satele will be ready to go back to work tomorrow. (Michael) Bush fractured his left thumb and will need a procedure on it, and whether or not that keeps him out remains to be seen.

Jason Campbell suffered a stinger, and after the X-rays, that does not appear to be too serious. We just need to rehab it and make sure he is ready to go. He also fell on his right wrist, and we’ll need to see more on that in the coming days. Chris Johnson will be able to go back to work. Thomas with a concussion, that will be day to day obviously. Desmond Bryant hyperextended an elbow and that will be a day-to-day issue as well. Richardson will not be ready to play on Thursday night. And Alex Daniels will probably not be ready to play on Thursday night.

Q: What is the bigger deal with Campbell, stinger or wrist?

Cable: Right now, I guess it’s the wrist.

Q: Did it happen on the same play?

Cable: It happened on the series before.

Q: Is there a chance Bush is back for the opener?

Cable: Yes, there is a good chance. There will be a procedure done tomorrow to repair it and then we will know more after that.

Q: How about Chaz for the opener?

Cable:I would say it’s questionable.

Q: Are you getting an MRI on Jason’s wrist?

Cable: We did all that today.

Q: Will Satele reclaim his starting job tomorrow?

Cable: I want to look at it. There were some things from last night’s game that I was not pleased with but there were also a lot of good things at the center position. I think the fact that Samson is ready to go is the most important thing right now.

Q: Did Gradkowski solidify his No. 2 status?

Cable: He definitely showed himself well and strengthened our football team at the quarterback position.

Q: But you’re not ready to say he is the backup?

Cable: Well, I think he is. I never said he wasn’t.

Q: Do you think the nature of camp practices resulted in poor tackling last night?

Cable: Oh no. No. No. We’re fine that way. That isn’t our issue.

Q: So, what is the issue with the tackling?

Cable: Well, I’d like to see us wrap up when we tackle. That was probably the biggest negative that took away from the game. I was very disappointed in our kick coverage teams. Those two things, we got to play better. And offensive tackle. Those three things, you can put your hand on those pretty clear.

Q: Is Mario Henderson’s job secure?

Cable: Well, everyone has got to continue to improve and all that. I don’t see any reason for him not to. My feeling on it right now is that he’s not unlike anybody else. He’s got to get better.

Q: Do you have a clue who your punt returner is going to be?

Cable: I felt like we were getting closer to that. I don’t know after last night that it’s any clearer than it was before but I’ve got an idea.

Q: Would Bush have to switch to carrying the ball in his right hand all the time if he needs a cast?

Cable: I don’t think it’s a cast issue, from what I’ve been told. It will certainly have to be protected, but I don’t believe it’s going to be a cast.

Q: Veldheer at center only this week or moving back and forth?

Cable: He’ll move back and forth.

Q: What did you think of Veldheer’s play?

Cable: I saw a guy playing center for the first time in this league. You got to learn where to put his helmet a little bit more consistently. When he did, it was pretty good stuff. So, there’s a lot to grow on. It was actually a pretty good effort by him.

Q: Considering you were 20-for-30 with five or six drops, does that many on-target passes indicate the timing of your passing game is well ahead of last year?

Cable: More important, the fact that we’ve had so many guys in and out, with Chaz out, Louis had a time out, Darrius had a time out. It bodes well for the direction we’re heading. It speaks volume for how far we’re ahead of where we’ve been in the past, no question. But, if you look at those drops, we still got to get our hands on third down. We were pretty good last week in Chicago , and then last night we dropped off again. So, there’s a direct correlation to us having success and how we are as a football team on third down. You can say the same thing on defense. We weren’t very good on third down last night.

Q: Is Reece blocking well enough to be considered a legitimate starting candidate?

Cable: Well, I’ll say this: He just continues to get better. That’s the thing that he’s shown us is that, from one week to the next he’s going out and improving on whatever his negatives were from the week before. It’s starting to show up more and more that this guy, you can coach him, he’ll take it and he’ll go get it again. I certainly think that he’s really showing himself the right way.

Q: His dimension as a receiver is something the other fullbacks really can’t offer . . .

Cable: That’s a true statement.

Q: How would you rate your receivers?

Cable: Well, I think there is some opportunity out there that we didn’t take advantage of, I mean a few drops. But I thought the group as a whole, would like to see more happen there at the end. We had a chance to really win the game even though there was just a little bit of time left and we didn’t get it done so… I think overall, I think the group is moving forward the right way. I’d just like to see a couple of more guys step up.

Q: Is there a need to add another receiver with Chaz out 3-6 weeks. Maybe Coles or Bryant?

Cable: We haven’t had any of those kind of discussions at this point. Right now, we’re more focused on our group and trying to find, really that fourth and fifth receiver. I think that’s really key for us right now.

Q: You said you’d know more about Thomas Howard after this game. What did you learn about him last night?

Cable: I thought the guy did some things better than he had in the two previous weeks. I think that in the right role, he can really help us, so we’ll see.

Q: Stanford Routt has been playing a lot — still a competitor with Chris Johnson as starter?

Cable: I don’t think there’s any question. I think Stanford has had a tremendous opportunity presented to him and, you know with the injury to Chris Johnson, Stanford has certainly taken the opportunity and done well with it.

Q: Tom, what did you see out of Darren McFadden last night?

Cable: I saw explosive play, I saw a guy run hard and in between the tackles. You know, it’s nice to get him back. You know it’s good for him to get his first action. I’ve said all along that when he’s healthy, I think he’s very important to what we’re trying to do.

Q: Talk about how Chris Cooper and Quentin Groves played last night.

Cable: You know, I think Chris Cooper is a consistent guy who shows up, you know does things right. Played the boot well a couple of times, rushed the passer well a couple of times, and disrupted the pocket. And Groves showed up a couple of times as a linebacker playing some pass defense, when rushing the passer, hurried the quarterback twice.

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456 Responses to “Cable Q&A”

  1. BigTed707 Says:

    Yagga!

  2. BigTed707 Says:

    The Hines Ward Story – starring Lou Diamond Phillips.

  3. J Wiggle Says:

    I think Henderson is the guy who Veldheer is going to replace.

    Not sure if you guys have noticed Pears in WITH Henderson and Walker when Henderson is at LT. Went back to watch that Chicago game and they went with that a lot. Also saw it this past weekend where Walker or Pears is lining up next to Henderson instead of a second TE. They didn’t do that with Veldheer in the lineup.

  4. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I tell you what: Every aspect of this team has improved over last year except the O-line. How can Cable still have a job? He has two responsabilities: 1) coaching the Oline, 2) responding to press questions like a trained monkey. Get it together fat man!

  5. edward teach Says:

    Cable can only do so much with the line. The players still have to do their jobs.

    We need some better players there, is all.

    Watched Denver and the Steelers tonight; Maurkice Pouncey is a rookie center and he pretty much took 13 year veteran Jamaal Williams out of the game. You can’t fake talent in one-on-one battles.

  6. priesttj Says:

    C’mon DMC we need you baby, show us the magic……..please!!

    I really like Marcel Reece that guy is a real weapon. If we could get DMC right this is a very different team his cahnge of pace is striking. It’s hard for a defense to adjust to heavy big back to a real speed guy from down to down very few defense have that ability. That’s why if he can stay healthy and give us that change of pace it makes us very dangerous.

  7. priesttj Says:

    Ed Teach

    The difference is Pouncey has been playing C for 3-4 years not months. That’s why it’ll take Veldheer much longer to be good there than at OT. It’s nt that he couldn’t eventually play there but why spend 2 years getting him up t speed when he can play OT right now.

  8. kidseven Says:

    Yeah, I think Cable has completely obliterated any cred he had as an offensive line guru.

  9. BigTed707 Says:

    One thing the Raiders did improve on this week is turnovers.

    Now we gotta eliminate the stupid penalties, we already get flagged for nothing.

    I already miss Ike on special teams.

  10. edward teach Says:

    Oh, I agree with you, Priest. That’s why our first-rounder was such a tough choice this year. I know you thought I was crazy for wanting Pouncey in the first, but as you know the middle of both sides of the ball is hugely important. I’m thrilled we got McClain, but watching Pouncey dominate Williams tonight (heck, even Aikman was talking about it) made me wish we could have had them both.

  11. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    Ed Teach

    The difference is Pouncey has been playing C for 3-4 years not months. That’s why it’ll take Veldheer much longer to be good there than at OT. It’s nt that he couldn’t eventually play there but why spend 2 years getting him up t speed when he can play OT right now.
    ======================================================
    And its this philisophical difference that leads to Raider draft picks taking LOOOOONGER to develop than others.

    We throw so much at these young guys…switch them around the field and with Veldheer…what they are doing with him is nothing short of remarkable.

    Take a Division III Left Tackle and convert him to a starting Center in 3 months….Absolutely remarkable

  12. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JFB,

    You got your wish. You and others said Gradkowski is the better QB.

    I hope you are right. We are asking him to do something he’s only been able to do in one 4th QTR against a Palomalouless Steelers and a preseason game…that’s complete 60% of his passes, limit turnovers and lead to points.

    Is that a trend or an anomaly?

    Gradkowski is up! I hope he’s a Tom Brady or Kurt Warner…….otherwise this is a lost season.

  13. ArmChair GM Says:

    Having Bush at less than 100% with the season 2 weeks ago is concerning and a definite dampener. Bush has proved that he is our best back.

    Anything that we can get from Mcfadden is a plus at this point, but I just can’t count on him yet.

    I really have liked what Bennett has done in the preseason and would vote for him to be our Bush replacement until Bush is healthy again.

    The injury to Campbell’s wrist is really concerning. I am afraid it may be more serious than Cable is saying right now.

  14. armond Says:

    reece is getting better as a blocker so i think he will stay. there is no way u keep lawton and not him. marcel brings speed and elusiveness as a fb. he allows us to screen from both hb/fb postions as well as getting downfield. that pass he caught in the 1rst wouldve been a td had jc led him to the endzone more. how many teams can do that with a fb? teams cant just sit on bush/dmc getting paases with him on the field. they have to account for him as well.

  15. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    ArmChair GM,

    Everytime the Raiders have injuries its usually worse than is let on. 2 to 4 weeks turns into 10 to 12 weeks.

    Gradkowski and DMAC have to step up to the plate and play at a high level

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What did I tell you, Bruce will be the starter, lol.

  17. ArmChair GM Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    ArmChair GM,

    Everytime the Raiders have injuries its usually worse than is let on. 2 to 4 weeks turns into 10 to 12 weeks.

    Gradkowski and DMAC have to step up to the plate and play at a high level
    _____________________________________________________

    Yeah this freakin sucks!

  18. Coach Elkins Says:

    The cause of the injury is the Coaching of the Offensive Line.

    We might be replacing a QB, but we aren’t addressing the cause of the problem….

    We’re addressing the symptom.

    Like I have been saying objectively since the day we let Fargas go, the day we allowed Morrison to be traded, and the day of the draft…

    6-10!

  19. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JFB,

    YOu are right. Al Davis benign neglect of that O-Line again….

    I hope Bruce looks more like Drew Brees and less like Jeff Garcia or Kordell Stewart

  20. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    BTW,

    I never liked Jeff Garcia or Kordell Stewart!

  21. Coach Elkins Says:

    “There are a 1,000 ways to get skinned by THE CAT”

  22. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bruce, with his somewhat weaker arm, still tries to stretch the field with accuracy and anticipation.

    Look at the 3rd and 16 completion to DHB. Threaded the needle and went for it. None of these checkdowns on 3rd and 8 that we saw quite a bit of from Campbell.

  23. ArmChair GM Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I think people are jumping the gun a bit with these QB comparisons. While I’ll be the first to congradulate Grads he played a great game. I think I was more impressed with his accuracy than anything. He hadn’t shown me that and it was sorely needed at that time. Campbell was great as well but he hasn’t had the advantage of being with this team for well over a year. Neither has Boller. I really think we have a great problem at QB for the first time in many years. Let it play itself out they’ve all been impressive IMO.

    Marcel Reece is a real weapon at FB not many FB’s have that kind movement skills as well as recieving. He isplaying some great ball right now an he’ll only get much better.

    Carlisle leaves a lot to be desired if a change on the line is needed I think it is there primarily he gets no push on running downs. We can’t even run to that side with any degree of proficiency. Cable needs to start Campbell IMO I think the returns on Carlisle are deminishing. His savy is n longer an asset.

    While most would like to see Veldheer at C I think if Mario continues to struggle at times I wouldn’t mind seeing Veldheer get a long look at LT. Move Mario to RT Campbell at RG and leave Satele at C.

    They have to run blck much better than they are doing and Cable has got to get that fixed. We can’t run to the right. We run really well going left.

    I know most are concerned about the sacks buit sacks are a part of the game you’re going to give up sacks I don’t care who’s playing LT. So asking for zero sacks is a little naive. We have given up a minimum this preaseason the line in terms of sacks given up looks good it’s the lack of a consistent running game that’s got me concerned.
    ______________________________________________________

    Very good analysis Priest. I agree with a lot of these points.

  24. lefty12 Says:

    #19-Look who’s here-Randy Hanson throwing his love for the team around!

  25. fat kidd Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    The cause of the injury is the Coaching of the Offensive Line.

    We might be replacing a QB, but we aren’t addressing the cause of the problem….

    We’re addressing the symptom.

    Like I have been saying objectively since the day we let Fargas go, the day we allowed Morrison to be traded, and the day of the draft…

    6-10!

    …………….all the raiders need to be 10-6 is eat red meat all week and start a fight in the first four minutes.

  26. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am not expecting Bush or Campbell for the 1st 4 wks. After the Schilens and Nick Miller debacles last year..I tack on 6 to 8 wks to anything Cable says in a press conference.

    Gradkowski and DMAC….a chance to solidify themselves as starters…..I hope they are prepared…neither of them has done anything but flash in a Quarter or TWo

  27. ArmChair GM Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    The cause of the injury is the Coaching of the Offensive Line.

    We might be replacing a QB, but we aren’t addressing the cause of the problem….

    We’re addressing the symptom.
    ____________________________________________________

    Very good points as well Elkins.

    I keep saying that if we solidify the line we win the division. Getting receivers and QB’s are important, but we won’t be able to get the most benefit from them until we fix that freakin line!

  28. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    Bruce, with his somewhat weaker arm, still tries to stretch the field with accuracy and anticipation.
    ======================================================
    Just do it over 16 weeks. That career 53% completion percentage has me very concerned.

    He and Hue Jackson also better realize that opponents will be game planning him too.

  29. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Bruce took all of ZERO sacks yesterday.

    Yes the O-line is poorous, but better a QB who realizes it and plays the hand he is dealt. Campbell must have watched too many 1970 Raider highlight films with Al, he almost got killed the last 3 weeks taking sacks.

  30. Just Fire Baby Says:

    BTW, my man Bruce, shredded both his knees AND KEPT PLAYING until halftime.

    Campbell sprained his wrist and got a stinger, and needed to sit shotgun in a golf-cart.

  31. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JFB,

    Raiders call a lot of 5 and 7 step drops….which is what got Campbell nearly decapitated.

    Regardless, if Bruce can do it….they will have his story up there with Kurt Warner and Tom Brady.

    How were we so smart and the others around the league so dumb?

  32. ArmChair GM Says:

    Priest,

    you are correct that even the best LT will give up a sack every now and then.

    But to me there’s a difference between giving up a sack, and letting your QB get hauled off on blindsided.

    The LT is like the QB’s personal bodyguard. He puts his body on the line to protect his QB’s blind side.

    Mario let the team down big time on that play IMO.

  33. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    BTW, my man Bruce, shredded both his knees AND KEPT PLAYING until halftime.

    Campbell sprained his wrist and got a stinger, and needed to sit shotgun in a golf-cart.
    ===================================================
    SLow your roll my man. Gradkowski didn’t exactly make it out of last year either.

    Kyle Boller better be warming up…..

    Raiders may want to look into Josh Johnson down there in Tampa….given this O-Line and everythign….LOL

  34. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    Priest,

    Mario let the team down big time on that play IMO.
    ==================================================
    That about sums it up. He got beat so bad once before that Andrew Walter had a bloody nose from a hit that was so hard.

  35. JB Says:

    Keep a eye out for a trade to Pittsburg to pickup Hartwig – center. He was the starter but looks like he’s getting bounced for Maurike Pouncey, their # 1 pick this year. Hartwihg has a 4 year $2M+ contract. That’s a little expensive to be sitting on the bench. Fortunately for us, AD doesn’t get scared by the $’s. If we got Hartwig then we could focus both Veldheer & BCampbell on the tackle positions. We could then move Walker or MHenderson to RG. That would give us a reasonable dominating O-Line.

  36. fat kidd Says:

    gradkowski looking better than peyton manning

  37. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Well, it is a Davis and Cable flaw.

    You want a down field passing attack, yet an average to below average left tackle…..Kwame Harris, Barry Sims…Henderson is next man up.

    I thought he could do it too and maybe he can. But he let me down yesterday. Damn

  38. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JB Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    Keep a eye out for a trade to Pittsburg to pickup Hartwig – center. He was the starter but looks like he’s getting bounced for Maurike Pouncey, their # 1 pick this year. Hartwihg has a 4 year $2M+ contract. That’s a little expensive to be sitting on the bench. Fortunately for us, AD doesn’t get scared by the $’s. If we got Hartwig then we could focus both Veldheer & BCampbell on the tackle positions. We could then move Walker or MHenderson to RG. That would give us a reasonable dominating O-Line
    ===================================================
    Maybe….there is a reason Pittsburgh drafted Pouncy…are we sure Hartwigh isn’t another Satele?

  39. JB Says:

    Now that JCampbell is out for awhile, we should be seeing Boller & Brennan next week. Should be entertaining.

  40. edward teach Says:

    Pittsburgh drafted Pouncey because they’re smart. Hartwig is in his 9th year in the league and it has long been the Steelers’ policy to draft a guy’s replacement two or three years before they need to replace him. Gives the new player time to adjust to the team and the system. Pouncey is just really good, is all, which is why he’s already starting.

    Pouncey was rated coming out of college as one of the best center prospects in years (even higher than Manglod). It’s not a fluke that he’s beaten out Hartwig, but it doesn’t by any means indicate that Hartwig can’t play anymore.

  41. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JB,

    Amazing how fast things change isn’t it.

    I hope for once the Raiders are telling the truth as it relates to injuries.

    I also hope they don’t RUSH players back before they are ready.

    Its the Bruce Gradkowski and Darren McFadden show….with guest starring Mario Henderson and Cooper Carlisle…….

  42. edward teach Says:

    Mangold, sorry.

  43. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Edward Teach,

    Then the Raiders should have that 3rd round pick on speed dial to send to Pittsburgh before Miami does something.

    Someday, the Raiders will be equally as saavy getting young players that can play right away!

  44. ArmChair GM Says:

    Here’s what I saw yesterday.

    For the first time in a few years we can actually have an intelligent debate about who our starting QB should be.

    Campbell seems more relaxed and poised in the pocket. And he throws a beautiful spiral. Sometimes he seems a little too relaxed because he doesn’t realize that our line will get him killed if he doesn’t get the ball outta there quicker. But that opening drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. he was calm, collected, and has a good command of the huddle.

    Gradkowski doesn’t throw as pretty a pass, or as deep as Campbell, but several things stood out to me.

    1) His energy. Right after Campbell went out, the Raiders looked completely deflated. You could see their body language. But Grads came on the field with a ball of energy and electrified the whole Coliseum! Diving in the Black Hole,lol.

    2) Man was he accurate last night. I mean on a couple of drives he was looking like the second coming of Drew Brees,lol. The way he threaded that pass to DHB in between 2 or 3 defenders was a thing of beauty.

    3) He moves around the pocket when it starts collapsing and makes plays to keep the chains moving. He knows the team and the players better than Campbell at this point, and remembers his injuries last year, so he knows not to get too comfortable in the pocket behind that line.

    I’m a little nervous with Campbell going out, but Grads lit up the Coliseum last night. Gotta give that man his props.

  45. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Would have been happy with Alex Mack 2 years ago instead of DHB.

  46. JB Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Maybe….there is a reason Pittsburgh drafted Pouncy…are we sure Hartwigh isn’t another Satele?
    *********************
    Nah. The other Satele is in Miami and goes by the name of Jake Grove.

    Seriously, Pouncey aside from being a great prospect is 21 YO. Justin Hatwig is 31 YO with 9 years experience. They are making the change to keep their line younger for the long run.

    We could use Hartwig this & next year and maybe pick up Pouncey’s brother in next year’s draft. We may have to move up a bit to get him though. Wiznewski’s nephew will be long gone before our turn comes. Those 2 are the top two rated center in the upcoming draft.

  47. edward teach Says:

    I hear you, SnB. On the other hand, Pouncey’s twin brother Mike, who started at guard next to his brother last year, is now the Gators’ starting center and is highest-ranked at that position in the country this year. Bigger and stronger than Wiz’ kid, and without the injury history of O’Dowd from USC. He’s a senior and will be available in next year’s draft.

  48. Raider O Says:

    -I’m watching the replay on NFLN, and I think our D will be great. We missed Seymour, and we need to play MM at SS and Branch at FS on rushing downs.
    -I think Branch can play FS and be great at it. He has speed, he can cover, andhe lives contact. He reminds me of Troy P.
    -Cambell looks great. We have a QB.
    -we need to fix the OL.
    -DHB looks great.
    -Reece has a lot of talent.
    -I wanted to see more from DMC.

  49. JB Says:

    # edward teach Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    I hear you, SnB. On the other hand, Pouncey’s twin brother Mike, who started at guard next to his brother last year, is now the Gators’ starting center and is highest-ranked at that position in the country this year. Bigger and stronger than Wiz’ kid, and without the injury history of O’Dowd from USC. He’s a senior and will be available in next year’s draft.
    ****************************
    This source has Pouncey at the #2 position. Wiz @ #1.
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011_C

  50. Raider O Says:

    And he loves contact*

  51. lefty12 Says:

    No offense S&B but your comments are kind of hypocritical.While many on here were begging for Oline help early in the draft for the last couple of years,you always supported the idea that we could fill the line with later rd picks.Now you are complaining because that is exactly what we have done.

  52. aig-raiders Says:

    I’m getting sick of Raider fans who still dont appreciate Bruce Grad. All he has done is make plays and deliver for us. What more can the guy do? For most of the opportunity he has been given, he has delivered. Bruce played with the same group of players that Jawalrus played with yet you got people still bashing him last yr. He played with the same players that JC played with and he did in 2 quarters what JC couldnt do in 4.

    The guy makes things happen. He is another version of Jeff Garcia. Jeff Garcia was good enough in his prime to take the Whiners to the Playoffs and a few probowls. Bruce aint no Drew Brees or Peyton but he is more than competent to give us at least a 9-7 season this year.

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  54. edward teach Says:

    Maybe 1 and 1a, JB. I’ve read stuff that has Pouncey rated higher, but I guess that just means they’re both good:)

    I suppose I like Pouncey better for two reasons; 1) He’s bigger and stronger than Wiz, and wih all of the teams in our division running a 3-4, we need the biggest one we can get, all things being equal. 2) He plays week-in and week-out against the best competiton in the country, and by the time his career at Florida is over will have played in (and won) a ton of big games. The last part is an intangible, but in my mind an important one.

  55. StopThis Says:

    Cable has to start making some tough management decisions soon. He must identify and correct our defensive weakness against the long runs that occurred 2 weeks in a row. He must also correct the very weak special teams play that allows runbacks and fails to gain punt and kickoff return yardage. He really should consider replacing the Special teams coach, John Fassel. A coach that fails to properly utilize all the talent at his disposal, should be replaced with someone who can. John must be one terrible coach with the results he is getting. Then we got this kid that was a great running back at the college level that can’t get it done at the pro level. Maybe a good manager might recognize that McFadden is fast natural receiver and change his job description to Wide Receiver. We have a few backup running backs that run far better than McFadden. It might not be too late to find someway to improve our O-Line before we lose all our quarterbacks. Cable is supposed to know a little bit about O-line so I hope he has a plan and executes it. He should also consider cutting those great players that can’t seem to stay healthy. Some people just break too easy and just don’t belong on a football field, no matter how good they play wide receiver, on those few days they are healthy. See ya.

  56. Raider O Says:

    Bush is a Beast!

  57. JB Says:

    # edward teach Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Maybe 1 and 1a, JB. I’ve read stuff that has Pouncey rated higher, but I guess that just means they’re both good:)

    I suppose I like Pouncey better for two reasons; 1) He’s bigger and stronger than Wiz, and wih all of the teams in our division running a 3-4, we need the biggest one we can get, all things being equal. 2) He plays week-in and week-out against the best competiton in the country, and by the time his career at Florida is over will have played in (and won) a ton of big games. The last part is an intangible, but in my mind an important one.
    ************************

    No argument here. I say get Hartwig if we can for the next two years at starting C. Draft Mike Pouncey (my favorite also) and give him a year to grow & learn the NFL and he starts as center in 2012. Now that’s a plan that fixes now and takes care of tomorrow.

  58. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How were we so smart and the others around the league so dumb?

    **********************************

    If Campbell succeeds, you could say the same thing.

    A 4th round pick in 2012 isn’t exactly much of a market for your services.

  59. edward teach Says:

    Agreed, JB. The upside on Pouncey is that he can play guard as well, so it gives us some flexibility there.

    Which means that we’ll probably put Veldheer at center and Pouncey at tackle… lol

  60. Random Drug Tester Says:

    why did SF’s RB Coffee retire?

  61. aig-raiders Says:

    Coffee wanted to go into the ministry.

  62. JB Says:

    Before we continue beating each other up over which player (QB) has the biggest Johnson we should give thanks to the following:
    • JaLoser is no longer here and
    • We probably have the best 3 & maybe 4 QB’s, as a group of any other NFL team.

    JCampbell has played well. So has Gradkowski. Boller has had his moments too. All that is left is to see what Brannen can do. This is a great problem to have. Whether we paid a 4th round pick or something else is irrelevant at this point in time. There are teams out here that would love to have our QB problem. In this league if you don’t have a good #2 & #3 QB, you don’t survive to the end.

  63. JB Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    why did SF’s RB Coffee retire?
    *********************
    # aig-raiders Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Coffee wanted to go into the ministry.
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    That’s the same thing that caused Kauffman to retire early. That was a BIG LOSS for us.

  64. Raider O Says:

    Bush should be our starting RB!

  65. Raider O Says:

    I don’t think we need another WR. Murphy and DHB look good, we have Chaz & JLH, and we drafted Ford.

    We Need To Fix The OL!!!!

  66. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Bush should be our starting RB!
    ******************

    He IS our starting RB. DMac is certainly not going to change that. DMac is lucky if he ends up as the #4 RB or a WR. He’s lucky if he doesn’t get walking papers and a map to JaLoser’s home.

  67. Raider O Says:

    McClain is making rookie mistakes, but he still plays better than Kirk (go Aztecs).

  68. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    # JB Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    why did SF’s RB Coffee retire?
    *********************
    # aig-raiders Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Coffee wanted to go into the ministry.
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    That’s the same thing that caused Kauffman to retire early. That was a BIG LOSS for us.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It actually worked in our favor, because we went out and got Charlie Garner to replace him.

    Big upgrade.

  69. JB Says:

    I think some earlier suggested that DMac’s skills could best be used at sprinting for the kicking tee & bringing it back. There was also concern expressed that he might fumble it too so maybe that wasn’t the best idea.

    There’s a lot of heavy in-depth thing going on in here. At least it’s entertaining – more than we can say about DMac.

  70. JB Says:

    *thinking*

  71. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    I Still think DMC can help us, if he is used right.

  72. Raider O Says:

    Routt and Walter McFadden looked good.

  73. JB Says:

    O

    Hope springs eternal. All I can say is RB is not for him. WR, maybe. Other than that, what do you suggest for a guy who can catch and only run fast in a straight line?

  74. JB Says:

    Yes on Routt & the other McFadden.

    I guess 1 out of 2 McFadden’s is the best we can hope for.

  75. Raider O Says:

    Great Draft!!

  76. JB Says:

    I want to see Ford and NMiller next week at WR, PR & KOR. We need to lock those spots down.

  77. ArmChair GM Says:

    There’s a saying that ‘if you shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you’ll be one of the stars’.

    That’s what Cable is doing with those t-shirts that say first the division, then the Superbowl.

    I am saying that we can win the division if we fix the line and I firmly believe that. But right now I reasonably see us going 7-9, or 8-8 as we are currently constructed. If we lose Bush it is gonna hurt us a lot.

    Even if he plays he will not be 100% and Mcmuffin hasn’t shown us anything remotely close to proving that he is at the level of an effective, starting, every down, RB in this league.

  78. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    We use 2 RBs. Bush to get most carries, and use DMC as a 3rd down back, run outside, and move him around to use his speed and good hands.

  79. Raider O Says:

    Gradkowski looked great.
    DHB and Murphy had 2 huge drops in the same drive. Z anilier had one too.

  80. JB Says:

    ArmChair GM #77

    Makes sense to me. No argument here.

    This game has ALWAYS been about the L.O.S. & Big Uglies. Win in the trenches and win the game. Not rocket science.

  81. Raider O Says:

    -Our OL is our weakness.
    -we need to develop DHB and Murphy. They show a lot of talent.

  82. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    JB,

    We use 2 RBs. Bush to get most carries, and use DMC as a 3rd down back, run outside, and move him around to use his speed and good hands.
    ********************
    Bennett and/or Cartwright are better choices for that. DMac showed last night that he’s not an NFL caliber RB. He has no moves and no change of pace. He’s great at running into whatever is in front of him. The problem is he doesn’t go through, just falls down. We can do better than that.

  83. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ McMuffin!!

  84. JB Says:

    Murphy is our Hines Ward. The kid is a real player. I love his energy. He just needs to work on his concentration a bit. That will reduce his drops.

  85. JB Says:

    Maybe we should just put Dmac at WR and have him run deep posts. If nothing else, he can wear out the DB.

  86. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    I would run Bush till the Defense starts to get tired, then use DMC and he can run free on a tired D.

  87. JB Says:

    Ask DMac what’s wrong with becoming the next Warren Wells or Cliff Branch? Deep receivers have always been part of the Raider magic.

  88. Raider O Says:

    The cowboys have M Barber & F Jones, and I think we souks use our backs the same way they do.

  89. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    JB,

    I would run Bush till the Defense starts to get tired, then use DMC and he can run free on a tired D.
    ***********************

    IMO, it would make any difference. DMac has no moves and no change of pace. He’s a straight line runner. He couldn’t get through a tired between the tackles group and running around the edge requires moves & change of pace which are NOT in his skill set.

    I know you want him to be something I do not believe he’s capable of. He simply goes down too easily for any number of reasons. It’s been that way since he got here and it hasn’t changed. Soon, everyone will agree and then maybe we can move on.

  90. Raider O Says:

    We can also use him like Bush from the Saints.
    It’s a shame to let all that talent go to waste.

  91. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    The cowboys have M Barber & F Jones, and I think we souks use our backs the same way they do.
    *********************

    The difference being they are real NFL caliber RB’s which DMac is NOT.

  92. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    I wanted us to draft Gholston. I’m a huge Buckeyes fan.

  93. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    We can also use him like Bush from the Saints.
    It’s a shame to let all that talent go to waste.
    *********************

    Don’t mean to be argumentative but DMac is no RBush. RBush has moves and change of pace. DMac doesn’t. DMac is much faster but that’s it.

  94. Raider O Says:

    The guy is 6′2 215, runs a sub 4.3, and he priced to be a great RB at college. I will give this year to prove to everyone what he can do.

    Use him right Hue Jackson.

  95. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    JB,

    I wanted us to draft Gholston. I’m a huge Buckeyes fan.
    **********************

    The jury is out on him too. Watching Hard Knocks on HBO, it looks like he’s trying hard to live up to the #1 pick but he’s not there yet. The guy does have some class though. He went to management and told them he knew he wasn’t getting it done and voluntarily took a pay cut. I wonder how DMac would feel about doing the same thing? Or, would he pull a JaLoser and just blow them off?

  96. JB Says:

    Felix Jones was the real RB at Arkansas. The world now knows that.

  97. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    I understand what you are saying, but there are a few games when DMC was used right and be produced big. KC game was a good example.
    He played well in 08 before he was injured. He had a 4.4 YPC AVG.

  98. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    Most Buskeyes have class. Not like those preppies from Mich! lol
    Gholston is a DE, he can not cover, so he can’t play OLB!!

  99. Raider O Says:

    Buckeyes*

  100. JB Says:

    #

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    JB,

    I understand what you are saying, but there are a few games when DMC was used right and be produced big. KC game was a good example.
    He played well in 08 before he was injured. He had a 4.4 YPC AVG.
    ***********************

    Unfortunately, 1 or 2 games does not make a RB. Consistency does. He is where he is based on his draft position. He’s done nothing to earn any Raider fans loyalty yet. We’d all like him to succeed but I guess I’ve just given up on him already. That way I won’t be disappointed. Just like with JaLoser, there comes a time to draw he line in the and and just cut your losses. Not everybody can be an NFL player let alone star. I just don’t see it happening.

  101. JB Says:

    Correction: I just don’t see it happening as a RB. As a WR, maybe.

  102. Raider O Says:

    Jano has a monster leg!!
    57 yards from the dirt!!!

  103. aig-raiders Says:

    I believe Gholston will be picked up by Al Davis as soon as he is released.

  104. JB Says:

    Jano has become our WMD. He’s finally worth the #1 pick that was used for him. He just got a monster contract as did Lechler – GOOD JOB AD. We have THE BEST kickers in the NFL.

  105. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    I understand. I own a Brand New Jabustus Jersey.
    I will give him this year to prove he can do it, and then I will be ready to move on.

  106. JB Says:

    I don’t think NY releases him. He’ll be playing at a hands down DE position for which he is much better suited. He took a pay cut so I think NY sticks with him for now.

  107. Raider O Says:

    Aig,

    I hope so.
    He can rush the passer, and he plays the run well as a DE.

    He is a 4-3 RDE IMHO.

  108. J Wiggle Says:

    We’re good at DE, need WLB!

  109. J Wiggle Says:

    One more DT wouldn’t hurt either.

  110. JB Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    JB,

    I understand. I own a Brand New Jabustus Jersey.
    I will give him this year to prove he can do it, and then I will be ready to move on.
    **********************

    LMAO, that’s like being stuck with, I can’t think of anything worse. I feel for you. LOL

    You’ll feel better when you move on.

  111. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    He is doing better with the Jets, but he is not a 3-4 DE. They may cut him next year.

  112. JB Says:

    Let’s trade DMac straight up for Gholston. I think we’d be taking advantage of them.

  113. Guy Says:

    What if we took Willis instead of Jabustus, Flacco instead of McFadden, and Spiller instead of McClain? I hate the what if game.

  114. JB Says:

    # Guy Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    What if we took Willis instead of Jabustus, Flacco instead of McFadden, and Spiller instead of McClain? I hate the what if game.
    *************************

    Right you are. That game could go on all night.

  115. Guy Says:

    that would be great though haha dammit russell

  116. Raider O Says:

    JB,

    DMC and Jabustus are like a bad relationships. You know you should end them, but the potential and special Talents keep us around.

    lol

  117. Raider O Says:

    What if we took Clady?
    That was the best top 5 pick that year IMO.

  118. JB Says:

    Gotta run guys. Great discussions. I enjoyed sharing the other perspective – some times. Don’t buy any DMac stock. It’s worthless – just my opinion.

  119. Bob Marley Says:

    Unfortunately, McFadden’s game is better suited to the one-cut running style that the ZBS requires and that we ran full-time when he was drafted.

    In that system he needed to just pick a hole and use his speed to take it as far as he could.

    We are mixing up things upfront now and while the ZBS may not be abandoned, nowadays every team has some zone blocking in their playbook, it appears we’re getting shifting to more conventional schemes and that does not bode well for DMAC.

  120. Raider O Says:

    I’m very happy with the McClain pick, and I don’t want to change it.

    Prev 3 drafts:
    1- P Willis/ C Johnson (07)
    2- Clady/ Gholston (08)
    3- OT/ A Mack/ Orakpo/ J Maclin (09)

  121. Raider O Says:

    Later JB. I enjoyed the chat too bro.

  122. Kirk Says:

    We should have taken Clady.

    Before that draft, John Madden said we should take an offensive tackle in the first round.

    We picked DMAC.

  123. Bob Marley Says:

    I really hope Hue Jackson finds a way to keep him involved.

    IMO, we should see more Bush-McFadden backfields, we can split McFadden out or send him in motion and throw the ball while Bush stays to block, or we could run it with Bush if the defense sends a LB or a S out to cover McFadden, we could also have both of them run a short route…

    You get the picture, we should have a specific formation with both on the field and a special set of plays designed to take advantage of two talented backs.

  124. Guy Says:

    I forgot about clady, we probably could have taken Clausen this year and I’d only replace McClain if we go Willis.

  125. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Eugene really mis-timed his jump on that 2pt convert.

  126. Bob Marley Says:

    That was a bad draft, out of the top 12 picks only Ryan Clady is a dominant player.

    Jake Long and Matt Ryan are good players, but nobody else has truly made an impact.

  127. r8eray Says:

    raider nation baby!

  128. Bob Marley Says:

    Well, it wasn’t pretty last night … but our offense scored 21 points vs the 49ers starters while their offense only managed 10 points vs our starting D since 7 points came on special teams.

    Good teams find ways to win, hopefully we are on our way.

  129. Bob Marley Says:

    Good night.

  130. Richochet Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Eugene really mis-timed his jump on that 2pt convert.
    =============
    Bravo..if you didn’t state that, no one would have figured it out..

    I love it when someone has a firm grasp of the obvious.
    Way to go, MR..

  131. Richochet Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    There’s a saying that ‘if you shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you’ll be one of the stars’.
    ================================
    *sigh*…you still need help, don’t you, grasshopper?

    The saying is “If you shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you’ll land among the stars.”

    Ok..now you try it..then I’ll resume schooling you on your silly previous take about the starters.

  132. raidertay Says:

    Michael Bush breaking his thumb is the story of that game. Thats really going to hinder this offense. If anything its going to take away his catching ability for a few weeks. McFadden isnt an everydown back.

    Can we play MM at FS. Tired of watching Huff get ran over. Huff can cover, but its not worth him not being counted on to make the tackle.

  133. priesttj Says:

    The draft by in large is such a crapshoot. My opinion is I want to play out this season before I decide what we need to do in next years draft. Everyone is assuming what will happen this year and we haven’t played game one yet. By years end you may feel very different about what we need to do.

    That includes everything along the lines I wonder what we’d be saying if our line had given up 7 sacks in on preseason game like we did to the Cowboy’s. I’ll submit to that the Steelers line is expecially at the OT is very leaky. These problems we’re discussing exist on most teams. This is the NFL sacks happen with the multiple blitz packages that defenses run you are going to give up sacks……….period

    It’s unforttunate that Campbell got hurt but this is a very violent sport players get hurt that’s what happens. You can’t run and panic because of it. Gradkowski will get sacked, Farve will get sacked,Peyton Manning will get sacked it happens. You can’t play this game in a bubble.

    And we’re jumping the gun on Campbell’s injury who says he’ll miss the opener certainly not a doctor or a coach and not Campbell. I just think everybody needs to take a deep breath and look at this thing realistically. I love what Jason Campbell brings to the table and still feel strongly that he is the best QB for this team…………..period

    If not the season willl let me know I’m wrong not some preseason game where Grads looked like Unitas for a quarter or two. I like him as a backup but I also like Boller. This game will get a lot tougher in 2 weeks from that point on time will tell all.

  134. raidertay Says:

    I still think we need to put McFadden back on Punt Returns or KOs. He may like it. It would probably help get him going. Not like we cant use a game changer back there (ie Reggie Bush or Felix Jones)

  135. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Bob Marley Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Well, it wasn’t pretty last night … but our offense scored 21 points vs the 49ers starters while their offense only managed 10 points vs our starting D since 7 points came on special teams.

    Good teams find ways to win, hopefully we are on our way.
    _______________________________________________________

    You hit the nail right on the head Marley. I see some people talking about the Niners beating the Raiders up.

    But don’t forget last years Monday Night opener vs the Dischargers.

    We beat the mess out of them physically in that game. We injured a couple of their players and sacked Rivers a few times as well. But after all of that, we lost all the same.

    The bottom line, like you said is that the Whiners offense only scored ten points against our starting D, while we put up 21 against there predominantly starting defense.

    That’s what matters, when you look at the overall picture. Like I said earlier, it’s about winning the WAR, not every single little battle.

    The Raiders all time record vs the Whiners is 6-5. So we can definitively say that we’re winning the war.

  136. raidertay Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Bruce took all of ZERO sacks yesterday.

    Yes the O-line is poorous, but better a QB who realizes it and plays the hand he is dealt. Campbell must have watched too many 1970 Raider highlight films with Al, he almost got killed the last 3 weeks taking sacks.

    ========================

    I was watching the game and thinking WTF do they have Campbell doing 7 step drops. I kept thinking they are going to get this guy killed. Especially when you have the statistically worst LT in the league.

    Made me think AD was calling some plays from the boothe.

    HUE PLZ REMOVE 7 STEP DROPS FROM YOUR PLAYBOOK. ESPCIALLY NOT WHEN MARIO IS IN THERE.

  137. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    There’s a saying that ‘if you shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you’ll be one of the stars’.
    ================================

    The saying is “If you shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you’ll land among the stars.”

    Here, YOU FOOL…THIS IS THE FIRST PLAYS OF THE 3RD QUARTER..
    __________________________________________________

    Awww little preschool pee wee is back. Have you learned basic English grammar yet? THIS IS THE FIRST PLAYS OF THE 3RD QUARTER is not an English sentence.

    The Rosetta Stone English DVD may be able to help you. Or maybe that system for infants called ‘My Baby Can Read.’

    As for my statement. It’s potato, po-taw-to. I’ve seen the saying written both ways. But the one I typed is an accurate rendering. And it’s grammatically correct.

    Are you excited??? Tomorow’s the first day of school in many cities around the Bay Area. You got your widdle backpack, and your widdle lunch pail ready???

  138. Richochet Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    C’mon DMC we need you baby, show us the magic……..please!!=======
    =====================
    Sure, TJ…because…well..because he had that blast of brilliance back..oh wait, that wasn’t Dmac…

    Facts are Dmac NEVER has stepped up.
    Facts are Dmac STILL has the same knocks he had in college..falls down at the prospect of being tackled, and has a knack for fumbling.

    Now? His backers are reduced to “We need to use him the right way..DUMP OFF PASSES”

    McFumble will earn his spot in the “Bust Trifecta” soon enough.

  139. priesttj Says:

    Every team in the league uses 7 step drops and we use them all 3 5 and 7 it just depends on the playcall. The 1st drive of the game he was using 7 step drops.Grads used 7 step drops there is nothing inherently wrong with a 7 step drop. If you get rid of the ball on time it’s when you’re forced to hold it on any depth drop that gets you in trouble.

  140. tazZraider Says:

    agree with bob marley on everything so far

    guy is an idiot

  141. Musaeus Says:

    Really????

    Is there really nothing about Hue Jackson yet? His 11-minute press conference is on raiders.com but no one’s written a lick?

    Nice.

  142. priesttj Says:

    Look in the archive..

  143. Richochet Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    I CLEARLY stated that the MAJORITY of the starters played through the 3rd quarter. There are 11 players on the field at the same time for both teams.
    11+11=22. Take your time now, I know that’s over your head.
    So a majority would mean MORE THAN HALF. So all that means is that at least 6 players from each team would have to be starters in the 3rd quarter.
    ————————————-
    Easily one of the weakest asinine posts of the day.
    Here..this sound familiar?

    ArmChairIdiot: “Over the course of 3 quarters(which is the entire length of time that the starters from both teams played) “

    Now you run that weak “I said majority”?? YOU WHINE ABOUT HOW EVERYONE SHOULD VIEW THE END OF THE 3RD QUARTER?
    And now you state “oh..uh..duh..I..uh…meant..you know…”majority”..more than “half” the team?
    You fool, lol.
    Now, while I laugh at you for that sorry juvenile whine, for fun, let’s complete your slap down.

    Dixon..NOT A STARTER
    Carr..NOT A STARTER
    Grant..NOT A STARTER
    Hill.. NOT A STARTER
    Simms.. NOT A STARTER
    Ginn.. NOT A STARTER
    Zeigler.. NOT A STARTER
    Walker.. NOT A STARTER..that’s 8 of the 11 guys, on offense, who are NOT STARTERS, on the field at the start of the 3rd quarter…ALONG WITH FG kicker, Andrews..NOT A STARTER

    Now..do you feel as “slow” as you look?

    Seriously..changing your name didn’t help, did it?

    Now, let’s just say that it was ONLY the QB, the LT, both WR’s, AND the RB that were in as backups..according to you, you would still state ‘WAS THE STARTERS AGAINST THE STARTERS”?? fool…like before..the MOTLEY FOOL.
    Yep, continuing to LMFAO ..at you…again….still.

  144. Musaeus Says:

    I agree with Taz.

    (I knew ol’ bob didn’t die of cia-injected cancer…elvis is still dead though)

  145. Richochet Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    That’s why I and several others are stressing that yesterday’s final score means nothing. The schemes and the play calling should be mostly vanilla at this time of year.
    LMFAO..first you run the “WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS THE SCORE AT THE END OF THE 3RD QUARTER..THAT’S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT..BECAUSE IT WAS STARTERS AGAINST STARTERS”..

    Until I school you like a little child, and now you state “Oh..uh..me…AND OTHERS..are stressing the FINAL score meant nothing.”
    Then why should the end of the 3rd qtr. score mean something?
    You’re not bright enough to avoid contradicting yourself..are you?

    It doesn’t matter who’s ahead on ANY OF THE QUARTERS.
    That’s not what preseason is about.
    But then again, you never did quite grasp it, did you?

  146. ArmChair GM Says:

    Richochet aka Elmer Fudd Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Here, YOU FOOL…THIS IS THE FIRST PLAYS OF THE 3RD
    QUARTER..
    ____________________________________________________

    Hahahaha! ROTFLMFAO.

    Seriously, where did they find this fool. Jerry probably had to help him fill out his username and password to even join this blog.

    Like I said, I don’t abuse learning disabled little girls…But this fool has reached a new level of mental ineptitude.

  147. Richochet Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Look in the archive..
    ====================
    We would appreciate it if YOU would do it for us..and then report back.

    Your time ….starts……NOW!!!

  148. Musaeus Says:

    What I was hoping for was some sort of opinion from Jerry about Jackson. I should have said that instead of “lick”.

  149. Richochet Says:

    LMAO…THAT’S IT?
    I just torched your silly take, and you’re reduced to a grammar take?
    You think ANYONE here cares about grammar/typo’s/spelling takes?
    They don’t..because no one cares to go back and proof read, or spell check…ONLY THOSE WHO ARE REDUCED TO PLAYING THE FOOL WHO HAVE NOTHING ELSE.
    You know…you, lol.

    Want to see how stupid you are, setting yourself up?
    ArmChair GM Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 2:00 pm Fact is, the true assessment of this game is hoe the STARTERS played.
    ================
    Hoe??
    See..no one cares..except you.

    Now..why the reluctance to state who you used to be? lol…the welts haven’t gone away, have they?

  150. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    wow jv must be one of al’s new favorite players for priest to be singing his praises after the last few weeks of dismissing him.

  151. Richochet Says:

    Considering the above whimper reply, I suspect the answer below is a resounding YES.

    _____________________________-
    Now, while I laugh at you for that sorry juvenile whine, for fun, let’s complete your slap down.

    Dixon..NOT A STARTER
    Carr..NOT A STARTER
    Grant..NOT A STARTER
    Hill.. NOT A STARTER
    Simms.. NOT A STARTER
    Ginn.. NOT A STARTER
    Zeigler.. NOT A STARTER
    Walker.. NOT A STARTER..that’s 8 of the 11 guys, on offense, who are NOT STARTERS, on the field at the start of the 3rd quarter…ALONG WITH FG kicker, Andrews..NOT A STARTER

    Now..do you feel as “slow” as you look?

    =============================
    What’s funny is I know you’re currently reviewing your “VCR”, mumbling…”dang..there’s Zeigler..there’s Simm’s, there’s Carr..there’s…..”

    Slap another DUH on your forehead.

  152. ArmChair GM Says:

    Really Chick-o-crap-

    I’m done making you look like a complete idiot for tonight. Poor widdle chick-o-chet, who can’t complete a basic English sentence correctly.

    I’ll school you some more tomorrow. Maybe you’ll learn how to write a sentence by then.

    Goodnight Nation. Raiders vs Whiners all time record

    6-5. JUST WIN BABY.

    p.s. Chick-o I know it’s that time of the month for you and everything, so I’ll leave you with this crap that you posted earlier…

    # Richochet Says:
    August 27th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Anyone STILL think we shouldn’t have picked up T.O.?
    _________________________________

    and let’s not forget…
    _________________________________
    Richochet Says:
    August 27th, 2010

    You call ‘02 success? How so?
    Liken it to boxing…we got ‘KNOCKED THE **** OUT”..that’s not success. That’s failing.
    ____________________________________________________

    p.s. Maybe tomorrow you can tell us why you referred to the Raiders as WE when you come here everyday and bash them. Now you’re referring to yourself as WE.

    You are more pathetic than any poster in the history of this blog. Switch hitting imposter.

    I’m Gone.

  153. tazZraider Says:

    as much as a jacka$$ richochet is, its pretty funny when he manipulates other people’s comment including when he used to do it to mine.

  154. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    it’s not like jc is a pro bowl caliber qb, he was another teams castoff. they thought so little of him they practically gave him away, and that was shanahan. what intangilbes does he bring to the table. if the line breaks down with one of those seven step drops, what’s he going to do? grads is gritty and commands respect from that offense. henderson needs to be told to stay in the game, we all know he needs to focus and grads does that. sharp, accurate and ready to run if needs be. this guy is gannon like and probably that is why al doesn’t like him.

  155. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i don’t even bother reading pieceochet’s posts

  156. tazZraider Says:

    hobs gnarly,

    the man is an annoying prick on the blog but he acts like a 14 year old in his posts which make it pretty funny.

  157. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    it’s an all time al davis favorite……the seven step hokie pokey. ran 50 times a game, because there is nothing like giving away your game plan in advance every single game. that along with the single high safety and we are now styling al’s moldy oldies.

  158. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    maybe he is 14 all i know is i never read what he has to say, it’s just not interesting to me.

  159. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    man i really wish more people were here at this time, but it’s 8 am for me in UK.

  160. GRIM Says:

    Instead of Henderson getting slapped I think Tommy Kelley needs to be slapped. He was fired up after that little skirmish.

  161. Just Win Says:

    Ricochet: weren’t you calling me Armchair GM last post? Look, obviously life is a little complex for you. And obviously football is a little complex for you. Go to a Tic Tac Toe blog site, and see if you can graduate up to four square before thinking of coming back here. Idiot.

  162. Richochet Says:

    # Just Win Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Ricochet: weren’t you calling me Armchair GM last post? Look, obviously life is a little complex for you. And obviously football is a little complex for you. Go to a Tic Tac Toe blog site, and see if you can graduate up to four square before thinking of coming back here. Idiot.
    ================
    Shup up Oakdork…you’re fooling no one.
    Me and others outed you as SeyOakDeboCappy..the cross posting board POS.
    You’re so slow you still go after everyone who routinely slaps you down, under your new names.
    You’re honestly almost as sad as MR..maybe more so.

  163. Just Win Says:

    Richochet: you are the blog idiot. Just admit it, go to the tic tac toe site, and everyone will be happy.

  164. Just Win Says:

    And why don’t you call yourself all those names. If everyone you think is OakSeymour, then you probably are too.

  165. Just Win Says:

    This just in: richochet is SeymourOak.

  166. Richochet Says:

    # tazZraider Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    as much as a jacka$$ richochet is, its pretty funny when he manipulates other people’s comment including when he used to do it to mine.
    ==================
    Not that hard, actually, lol.

    Witness ArmchairLady above.
    Opens mouth..bravado abounds.
    I dangle a little carrot..the fool takes it and runs.
    After I torch his silly replies, and challenge him on it..look what happened to him..reduced to the above silly say nothing copout diversion reply.
    “OMG..he said WE..when I followed him for months last year, saying “Who is your team…TELL ME WHO IS YOUR TEAM”..HE KEPT LAUGHING AT ME..and it hurt my widdle feelings..so I left, tail between legs, and now changed my name. I just hope he doesn’t rub it in, for too long, regarding my stupid comments about the starters. Alas, I feel he will slap me around at will.”

    And the little muffin would be right :mrgreen:

  167. Just Win Says:

    Richo-seymour is a turd. It’s well known. A dumb turd.

  168. Just Win Says:

    Richo-oak cries to the mods when he needs help. Like the mods are his mommies.

  169. Just Win Says:

    Let’s see how long it takes seymour-chet to cry to the mods like they are his mommies.

  170. Just Win Says:

    Good night Raider fans. Good night richo-niner!

  171. Richochet Says:

    # Just Win Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    And why don’t you call yourself all those names. If everyone you think is OakSeymour, then you probably are too.
    ==================
    Gosh…”Just Win”, lol…who said “OakSeymour”? Or SeymourOak”??
    Did I?

    I said “SeyOak” and “OakDork”..your favorite one..

    I wonder how you knew “SeyOak” meant SeymourOak??

    Can you tell us that, Oakdork..I mean..SeyOakdork..?

  172. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    something marley said a about a week ago strikes me. he said that jerry or one of jerry’s coworkers has been giving out info on some of the bloggers in here, specifically kool kell. wonder if that is a privacy breach?

    now here you are saying you outed someone as having “outed” someone using another name. hmmmm, something smells funny in jerry’s blog world.

    i have long suspected al as dangling carrots to certain people for spreading his propaganda. free tickets anyone?

  173. tazZraider Says:

    good night raider nation stay optimistic for its a new year and positive year!

    GO RAIDERS!!!

  174. souldogdave Says:

    Shut up, Richochet.You need to get laid, or something.Every time you post, you’re doggin’ someone instead of offering any real information.You chomp at the bit for “confrontation”.I’m sure if I actually saw your face, I would burst into laughter.LOL.

  175. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Stay optimistic? Why? Did people in here cry after losing Saturday night…mostly to the zebras than really anything else? But unlike the past…I have seen this team take the zebras in stride and still played to WIN!!! That…is reason to be optimistic!!!

  176. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    August 29th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    I think best place for DMC is the practice squad. Bingo.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    B – I – N – G – O, and Bingo is his name-O.

  177. hwnrdr Says:

    Trade DMac for a Bingo card!

  178. bcz24 Says:

    I had my concerns after Saturday night. We still made dumb plays, still couldnt stop the run, still couldnt get off the field on 3rd down…

  179. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Bo, Bcz24….
    Yes, there were still concerns…but take away that dumb Gore run, the punt return (that our guy was dragged to the ground and not called)and the goal line stand (keep watching the replay and I keep getting it at runner was pushed back, even though all teams would have punched it in on 4th down from the 2 inch line)…
    I say it wasn’t that bad…
    Heard that Singletary had a fit after because of communication problems???

  180. bcz24 Says:

    I was surprised (from the limited exposure that I had to the the game) the the 9ers were blitzing us on almost every play?! I still think we HAVE to be questioning Henderson. You would think JC owed him money the way he let Laboy get after it!

  181. Bob Marley Says:

    ATTENTION!

    People who signed up for South Texas Raider Fantasy League….

    We weren’t able to do the Draft yesterday, it’s going to take place tonight at 10:45 PM Eastern Time, be there.

    Dell, I know you’re in it…

  182. Bob Marley Says:

    I’m loving this Jared Veldheer kid, keep in mind this a guy coming from Division II football, (Hillsdale College, 1300 students), and he managed to held his own vs an All-Pro Caliber DE in Julius Peppers last week (ok, he was abused on a couple of plays, but Peppers will do that to anyone) and on saturday, he proved he can play Center in this league, he should only get better and that will allow us to upgrade LT or C, the 2 most important positions on the line.

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we already had 5 guys out against the 49ers …

    Schilens, Richardson, Satele, CJ37 & Seymour

    * not including Frye & Holland – IR *

    now 4 more guys are hurt ???

    Campbell, Bush, Bryant & Thomas

    I guess thats what happens when you play against a PHYSICAL football team

  184. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Right now, we’re more focused on our group and trying to find, really that fourth and fifth receiver. I think that’s really key for us right now.

    -Tom Cable

    ***

    so with Chaz out we already have a “Top 3″

    Heyward-Bey, Murphy & Higgins

    4th & 5th WR’s Cable is looking for will be a heated competition between Ford, Watkins, Figurs & NMiller … Ford & Watkins the odds on favorites (Ford was a 4th rounder & Watkins has been here 2 years already. has that typical Raider size & speed)

  185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    oddly enough, DMAC & DHB survived against San Fran

    LOL!

  186. Thec07 Says:

    What up NATION???

  187. hwnrdr Says:

    DHB actually did really well Saturday night, especially in that first drive! Yes, he had a dropped pass, but also on the sideline that Bruce Almighty perfectly threaded into him where only him can catch it and he did! And really??? Did you call the whiners a physical team? I don’t care who their coach is…they are not even close to the 9ers of Steve Young, and others from the 90’s…(although yes, I think Singletary has done a great job there)

  188. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar, Marley, Theco7!!!

  189. Thec07 Says:

    We faced a good team on sat. the 9ers will win the NFC west… They were blitzing a lot which is good for us to see early on, and especially good for our rookie center. Veldheer was a find and should start somewhere on the oline. I havent seen a pocket during pass plays in a while. JC and Grads both had time to step up and throw.

    From this game you could draw a lot of positives. You can also use the negatives and learn from them, thus turning those into positives.

    After JC went down, the team was in disarray, Grads was able to right the ship, as I said before he was one of a handful of stand up guys on this team, we are fortunate to have him.

    My two biggest concers, the Oline, and special teams had issues. Oline has enough moving parts to be decent.
    The rookies will supplant the vets before game 4. They should play where we could benifit from them the most.

    Veldheer seems like he could play all 5 line positions. If satele comes back start Veldheer somewhere on the line.

    Special teams I had a concern, we need to settle on KOR/PR dutites. I am glad we made the errors on return coverage now so that we can make the adjusments. Considering we have had a turnover in talent this we need to indentify who’s who…

    We still have issues as this is a young team, but all is not lost…

  190. Thec07 Says:

    hwnrdr, Aloha Bro…

  191. hwnrdr Says:

    The 9ers will win the West only because everyone has dropped off. AZ was already off consideration when Kurt Warner wisely retired, and they lost Karlos Dansby and Anquan…Seattle I will give another 2 years, and the Rams is a mess!!! If the 9ers DON’T win the West, then…well…
    I think we are about a year or two away from really being something great, but I think we will at least hit .500! As long as everyone stays healthy…

  192. Dakota Says:

    Saw the game last night.

    1) McFadden never stood a chance with 49ers standing right there when he got the handoff;

    2) Our o-line can’t run block;

    3) Cooper Carlisle has the mange…he has strange bald spots and streaks in his hair…he needs to be put down;

    4) Our special teams coach need to be fired RIGHT NOW. Outside of our kickers our special teams were awful last year and they look even worse this season;

    5) I know Seymour didn’t play, but John Henderson needs to see more time on running downs…the middle of the d-line was dominated by an o-line playing with two rookies and Barry Simms;

    6) Samjay Lal needs to be fired immediately as well, our receivers drop way too many balls…DHB is still trying to catch passes with his belly button;

    7) McClain needs a ton of work, he looked lost out there;

    8) Huff should only play on obvious passing downs. Let’s see if Mike Mitchell can do the job of safety and stop those big runs;

    9) Mario Henderson is not getting better;

    10) Langston Walker….damn dude, block someone instead of running along side the defender and watching them sack the QB.

    Yikes!

  193. bcz24 Says:

    You make it sound like we were blown out 100-0 Dakota… wait… your Dakota again?

  194. fat kidd Says:

    everybody that bought a mcfadden jersey makes excuses for him and say our o-line cant run block.sell it at a flea market and move on.

  195. Dakota Says:

    I am not too worried about Campbell’s wrist injury….watching him on the sideline last night (after seeing the breaking news about his wrist scroll bye) I saw him gesturing with his right hand and he didn’t look like he was in pain, he was gesturing to his chest and shoulder area and wasn’t pointing out his wrist or anything. Did see the play where he injured his wrist, he stood up after the play and shook his hand a couple of times…then went on to play.

    Hopefully just a sprain.

    The Bush injury sucks. Surgery today…hope he can make it back soon.

  196. Dakota Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:37 am
    everybody that bought a mcfadden jersey makes excuses for him and say our o-line cant run block.sell it at a flea market and move on.

    +++++++++++++++

    So are you blind or did you not see the unblocked defenders in the backfield when McFadden got the ball and was hit for a loss?

    You really think that is the RBs fault? Only Barry Sanders could have made a play to even get back to the line of scrimmage on those two plays. You have to be blind or just dumb not to know that.

  197. Thec07 Says:

    the team we faced on saturday is a mirror image of its head coach. The niners have a tough Defense.

    considering Veldheer is a rookie he played really good. Kid is definetly a find.

    I have said this before we should go primarily power blocking and use the ZBS on certain sitiuations…

  198. Dakota Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:36 am
    You make it sound like we were blown out 100-0 Dakota… wait… your Dakota again?
    ____________________

    Just pointing out the obvious flaws in the team. If we can get a new special teams coach in here and some decent o-linemen, and if we had a NT playing that could stop the run, and if our WRs didn’t drop so many passes, we could be a very very good team.

  199. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB actually did really well Saturday night, especially in that first drive! Yes, he had a dropped pass, but also on the sideline that Bruce Almighty perfectly threaded into him where only him can catch it and he did!

    ***

    Hwnrdr: Heyward-Bey channeled his inner Humuhumunukunukuapua’a !!!

    us real fans knew he would :)

  200. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:36 am
    You make it sound like we were blown out 100-0 Dakota… wait… your Dakota again?

    ++++++++++++

    I am sure that the Raiders coaching staff list is a lot longer, and more compelling. good to be exsposed now, fix it before we go into real battle…

  201. edward teach Says:

    Priest,

    I have to respectfully disagree with you when you say it’s too early to begin talking about who we need in next year’s draft. I’t been painfully obvious over the last few years that our o-line isn’t getting the job done. We may need to draft for depth at some other positions next year, but the o-line needs to be addressed early and shoould be the priority. We need to get another couple of guys in here that can play, get them up to speed and get them on the field. I like what I’ve seen from Veldheer and Campbell so far, but they alone aren’t enough to fix what’s ailin’ us.

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d like to see us sign a real center and put Veldheer at LT

  203. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning ET, Thec, Dakota, fatty, BCZ, Hwnrdr & Marley …

  204. fat kidd Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:40 am
    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:37 am
    everybody that bought a mcfadden jersey makes excuses for him and say our o-line cant run block.sell it at a flea market and move on.

    +++++++++++++++

    So are you blind or did you not see the unblocked defenders in the backfield when McFadden got the ball and was hit for a loss?

    You really think that is the RBs fault? Only Barry Sanders could have made a play to even get back to the line of scrimmage on those two plays. You have to be blind or just dumb not to know that.

    ………………..ive been seeing mcfadden for three years now i stopped watching when they hand him the ball i turn away ,if i wanted too see betty white i would watch Hot in Cleveland or the Golden Girls.

  205. r8eray Says:

    good morning raider nation!

  206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5 guys getting axed tomorrow 8/31 (perhaps tonight?)

    any guesses?

  207. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    “In his first preseason action Saturday after coming back from a tight hamstring, McFadden had seven carries for nine yards against the 49ers.”

    - Vit Tafur

  208. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Reece > DMAC

  209. hwnrdr Says:

    Hwnrdr: Heyward-Bey channeled his inner Humuhumunukunukuapua’a !!!

    us real fans knew he would :)

    That was some darn good channeling that he did Saturday night! :)

  210. edward teach Says:

    Morning, Rockstar. Are the folks in your neighborhood geeked about Sam Bradford?

  211. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  212. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:44 am
    I’d like to see us sign a real center and put Veldheer at LT

    +++++++++++

    Veldheer suprised a lot of people on saturday. Go back and look at the pocket when JC and Grads dropped back to pass.

    Its clear that he can play now so he should be starting somewhere. If satele is okay, start him at C and move Veldheer somewhere others than LG…

    Bruce Campbell needs to develop now. Look for him to be starting by game 5.

    Niners rookies on the oline looked good. they aslo had their backup center in the game.

  213. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Are the folks in your neighborhood geeked about Sam Bradford?

    ***

    ET: nobody is excited about the Chiefs or Rams over here man. it’s pretty funny

    Unless one becomes a surprise team this year, they’ll be awfully quiet whe I wear my Raiders gear around town

    most football fans stick to Missouri or Oklahoma gear & smack talk

  214. neilb Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 7:44 am
    I’d like to see us sign a real center and put Veldheer at LT.

    —————————————————–

    Barnes?

  215. Thec07 Says:

    What up Rock?

  216. xiamenweide Says:

    Reece is getting better as a blocker so i think he will stay. there is no way u keep lawton and not him.
    http://www.jerseys-factory.com

  217. neilb Says:

    Rockstar….

    I work with Rams fan.He thinks they won’t win a game this season.

  218. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Neil, ray …

    Barnes sucks as a tackle AND guard

    hope he & morris both get ousted, highly unlikely though I’m sure

  219. neilb Says:

    Keep Recce and Rock as his back-up.

  220. RaiderRockstar Says:

    XIA – Lawton & Reece both likely stay (again)

    Lawton stinks, but still may be the closest thing we have on the roster to a BLOCKING FB (and he plays on ST too)

    doubt Tonga or Moline crack the final 53.

    Daniels = PS

  221. Dakota Says:

    Re-sign Art Shell and put him at RG….couldn’t be worse than the Mange Man.

  222. RaiderRockstar Says:

    sign Brad Hoover & Kevin Mawae!

  223. J Hill Says:

    I have to think Barnes is better than Henderson and Walker. I mean he was a contributor to a SOLID jacksonville Oline which is more than Henderson or Walker can say.

    Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Campbell-Barnes

  224. neilb Says:

    You want to put a left tackle at right guard?

  225. J Hill Says:

    CLEARLY Pears, Henderson, and Walker are our worst OTs. They need to go before Barnes.

  226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    with McFadden playing with a tight hamstring & Bush looking at a “procedure” on his ball carrying hand (that sounds funny) i’m sure we’ll keep all 4 RB’s around

  227. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You want to put a left tackle at right guard?

    ***

    Tom Cable did. Meet Bruce Campbell

  228. RaiderRockstar Says:

    J Hill

    ***

    Who ???

  229. edward teach Says:

    Rockstar,

    I can see the apathy about the Rams. Short history there and they’ve sucked to high heaven since that Super Bowl, but I thought the Chiefs had better fans than that.

    Easier to be an OU fan though, for sure. My mom’s folks are from there and I was indoctrinated early.

  230. neilb Says:

    I would keep both Bennett and Rock.Have Reece as my starting FB and Rock as the back-up.

    I think our 2 starting RB’s are too brittle to last 16 games.

  231. J Hill Says:

    somewhere others than LG…

    ——————————————————-

    Gallery is a BUST!

    Dude makes just as many mistakes as the rest of the line. Whiffs, penalties, and the likes!

    I swear it HAS to be this BS ZBS system of just trying to block whoever is in their area. The coordination is WAY off and they just need to point out a man and attack him!

  232. neilb Says:

    Missed that……J Hill……really?!!

  233. J Hill Says:

    J Hill

    ***

    Who ???

    —————————————————–

    Lakota let me use his toothpick and I am free !!!!!!!!!!!

  234. RaiderRockstar Says:

    wb Jhill, Dakota

    nice fantasy drafts yesterday!

  235. neilb Says:

    Think you bribed the guard with peas!!

  236. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:00 am
    somewhere others than LG…

    ——————————————————-

    Gallery is a BUST!

    Dude makes just as many mistakes as the rest of the line. Whiffs, penalties, and the likes!

    I swear it HAS to be this BS ZBS system of just trying to block whoever is in their area. The coordination is WAY off and they just need to point out a man and attack him!

    +++++++++++++==

    So who starts at LG???

  237. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cable = ZBS

    if Cable goes, so does the zbs.

    if Cable stays, zbs stays as well – even if Hue Jax adds some minor tweaks or wrinkles

  238. neilb Says:

    Gallery’s fine at Guard,although starting to wonder if injuries are catching up.

  239. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RMR attacked Hue Jackson the other day after the SF game and nobody said much about it …

    do you guys agree that he’s not the answer already?

    or just ignoring the blogs version of “The Biggest Loser” ???

  240. Thec07 Says:

    Walker can also play RG…Bruce Campbell can slide to RT…

  241. neilb Says:

    Rockstar…..

    I agree.

    RMR…….he’s not the answer already.

  242. J Hill Says:

    By the way, where is JFB????

    He’s got a MAJOR beat down coming week 1 against the PLAYAS!

  243. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Walker can also play RG…Bruce Campbell can slide to RT…

    ***

    thats how it should have went from the start imo!

    April thru August was wasted for these guys. put in a position to fail

    Walker has the bulk to bulldoze inside & Campbell has the speed to handle outside rushers imo

    Satele/Morris at C = weak

    Veldheer? too early to know

  244. J Hill Says:

    Think you bribed the guard with peas!!

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    I still can’t believe that is a gene thing. When my daughter stuck the bead up her nose, man o man the family got a kick outta that.

  245. Dakota Says:

    Gallery is at least serviceable….I would replace all the other line positions before replacing Gallery.

    Man, if we just had the 07 o-line and the 08 special teams this team would be pretty good!

  246. J Hill Says:

    nice fantasy drafts yesterday!

    ——————————————————-

    Did you get Higgins?

    And way to stretch Cable’s comment’s to get your boy into the top 3, lol.

  247. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Man, if we just had the 07 o-line and the 08 special teams this team would be pretty good!

    ***

    Dakota: get Barry Sims, Jake Grove & Cornell Green on the phone!

    Ike Ekejiuba & Justin Miller too!

  248. Thec07 Says:

    Did you get Higgins?

    And way to stretch Cable’s comment’s to get your boy into the top 3, lol.

    +++++++++

    hahahahaha….

  249. aig-raiders Says:

    Morning,

    Finally back home after a long trip. Very excited about the Raiders this year compared to the last 7 years. Back to respectability and then we can shoot for the playoffs next year. Later.

  250. Dakota Says:

    Did Higgins even play Saturday? Oh yeah, he tried to return a punt from inside the 5 again.

    Can a playa get a brain transplant?

  251. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Did you get Higgins?

    ***

    Cable/Jackson won’t use him properly

    I didn’t get ANYBODY from the AFC West on purpose :)

  252. neilb Says:

    J Hill….

    Do you think you’ll get a phone call in 20 or so years from your daughter………..

    “Dad….you’ll never guess what’s happened!!”

  253. Thec07 Says:

    Cable/Jackson won’t use him properly

    ++++++++++

    I am not sure about that Bro….
    I would not take the play calling from the saturday game as gospel. JLH will be a factor in the pass game…

  254. J Hill Says:

    So who starts at LG???

    ——————————————————-

    Again, I think it’s the system.

    Or we just have 5 of the dumbest guys playing Oline for us.

    There are too many time when ….. I just don’t know how else to say it, but it just looks like they don’t know what they are doing.

    Gallery will pass a guy off to Satele, and Satele was busy doing something else.

    Henderson and Gallery double a DE and leave the MLB free.

    Walker wants to help Reece with and leaves his man wide open under the basket for a lob dunk.

  255. edward teach Says:

    Rockstar,

    I think it’s very premature and not very intelligent to pass judgement on a new offensive coordinator after three preseason games. Jackson isn’t gameplanning for anybody right now. He’s running things that he wants to see in game situations to see how certain players execute them, to work on timing and to evaluate packages in real-time. We haven’t seen real sequences, we haven’t seen the whole playbook, and we haven’t seen all the personnel groupings that we’ll see in the regular season. It’s also his first year, and while some of the playbook is the same, some of it isn’t and everybody’s adapting to that. Besides, I would say from watching all of this that the problems we’re having so far stem more from players not executing than the wrong plays being called.

  256. J Hill Says:

    LOL!

    My sister already predicted that Neilb.

  257. neilb Says:

    LOL!!!

  258. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ET: fair enough

    so RMR is wrong?

    or it’s simply too soon to tell?

  259. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:16 am
    So who starts at LG???

    ——————————————————-

    Again, I think it’s the system.

    Or we just have 5 of the dumbest guys playing Oline for us.

    There are too many time when ….. I just don’t know how else to say it, but it just looks like they don’t know what they are doing.

    Gallery will pass a guy off to Satele, and Satele was busy doing something else.

    Henderson and Gallery double a DE and leave the MLB free.

    Walker wants to help Reece with and leaves his man wide open under the basket for a lob dunk.

    ++++++++++=

    Only reason I asked was you said he was a Bust….

  260. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JLH will be a factor in the pass game…

    ***

    Thec knows whats up!

  261. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if your best OL is classifed a “bust” , thats spells trouble for the entire O-Line, doesn’t it ???

  262. Thec07 Says:

    edward teach Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:17 am
    Rockstar,

    I think it’s very premature and not very intelligent to pass judgement on a new offensive coordinator after three preseason games. Jackson isn’t gameplanning for anybody right now. He’s running things that he wants to see in game situations to see how certain players execute them, to work on timing and to evaluate packages in real-time. We haven’t seen real sequences, we haven’t seen the whole playbook, and we haven’t seen all the personnel groupings that we’ll see in the regular season. It’s also his first year, and while some of the playbook is the same, some of it isn’t and everybody’s adapting to that. Besides, I would say from watching all of this that the problems we’re having so far stem more from players not executing than the wrong plays being called.

    ++++++++++++++++++++=

    So are you sure Mr. Davis did not call for that pass to Watkins….lol

  263. J Hill Says:

    Walker can also play RG…Bruce Campbell can slide to RT…

    ***

    thats how it should have went from the start imo!

    April thru August was wasted for these guys. put in a position to fail

    Walker has the bulk to bulldoze inside & Campbell has the speed to handle outside rushers imo

    Satele/Morris at C = weak

    Veldheer? too early to know

    ——————————————————-

    You’re right about the wasted time. I think our semi pro circle settled on Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Barnes as a starting 5 before the draft. With the obvious weaknesses being OT.

    We drafted 2 OTs and instead of putting them at LT and RT IMMEDIATELY, here we are a week before the season still with the coach saying OT is one of the top concerns.

  264. neilb Says:

    Rockstar….

    Agree with Edward and it is too soon to tell.

  265. Dakota Says:

    Seems like Todd Watkins is more involved in the passing game right now then either JLH or Nick Miller.

  266. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: agreed

    we drafted 2 tackles

    1 is a backup C
    1 is a backup G

    and the pair of tackles are terrible

  267. neilb Says:

    Don’t want to be down on our O-line.It’s not the greatest,but it doesn’t help with the turnover in coaches and players.Give a chance to gel.

  268. edward teach Says:

    Rockstar,

    I think it’s too early to tell. Folks get all excited and start analyzing stuff sometimes without looking at the big picture. Take the Dmac situation, for example. There were people in here calling for Hue Jackson’s head because he was running Dmac between the tackles, when it should have been clear that Jackson said before the game that he had yet to see the man play in his offense in a game situation and wanted to get him a number of different looks so he could see what he had and what he didn’t. Take that situation and multiply it by however many other guys he’s evaluating, plus identifying stuff from the playbook that he likes with our guys and stuff he doesn’t, and maybe it makes sense to wait until we’re actually playing the games to win.

  269. neilb Says:

    Give “it”.

  270. J Hill Says:

    Only reason I asked was you said he was a Bust….

    ——————————————————

    # 2 overall pick in the draft?

    BUST

    Not having a pro bowl pre season!

  271. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Q: Tom, what did you see out of Darren McFadden last night?

    Cable: I saw explosive play, I saw a guy run hard and in between the tackles. You know, it’s nice to get him back. You know it’s good for him to get his first action. I’ve said all along that when he’s healthy, I think he’s very important to what we’re trying to do.

    ***

    Dakota: time to make a trade with Dell ???

  272. Raider O Says:

    Good Morning Nation.

    -The OL is a huge weakness.
    LT: Mario
    LG: Gallery
    C: Satele/ Veldheer
    RG: Walker/ Barns
    RT: Campbell

    -Huff SHOULD NOT play FS ok rushing downs. We need to play Branch at FS and MM at SS close to the LOS

    -TK is playing well.
    -Routt played great!!
    -DHB looked Good.

  273. Dakota Says:

    Gallery is certainly a Bust as the #2 overall franchise solidifying LT he was touted as…

    ….average LG though!

    Didn’t quite resurrect his career along the lines of Lincoln Kennedy, but at least he isn’t horrible.

  274. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
    JLH will be a factor in the pass game…

    ***

    Thec knows whats up!

    +++++++++++++++

    Kid is still a play maker, we need him…

  275. fat kidd Says:

    d mcfadden = betty white

  276. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RE: our best O-Lineman

    “at least he isn’t horrible.”

    sheesh – it’s gonna be a long season!

  277. Dakota Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:29 am
    d mcfadden = betty white
    +++++++++++

    Fat kidd = short bus fat kidd

  278. Raider O Says:

    Our WRs:
    -Chaz
    -Murphy
    -DHB
    -Ford
    -JLH

  279. neilb Says:

    Time for some dinner.

    Have a great Monday everyone.

  280. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakota:

    is fatty added to the RUE THE DAY dmac list or does he get a pass for being “special” ?

  281. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raider O: I drafted Mohamed Massaquoi in FF

    you will be represented well. you’re welcome :)

  282. Thec07 Says:

    -The OL is a huge weakness.
    LT: Mario
    LG: Gallery
    C: Satele/ Veldheer
    RG: Walker/ Barns
    RT: Campbell

    ++++++++++++++++

    Veldheer should be the backup C but should also start somewhere….

    I wanted us to draft oline…

  283. Raider O Says:

    JLH needs to show what he can do, or this will be his last season as a Raider.

  284. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JLH needs to show what he can do, or this will be his last season as a Raider.

    ***

    same could be said for at least half the roster!

  285. Thec07 Says:

    JLH will be fine… I for one want him to succeed, i beleive he will, he is the VET on the team….

  286. J Hill Says:

    d mcfadden = betty white

    —————————————————–

    That’s not what ur girlfriend said!

  287. Dakota Says:

    If JLH can step up and re-gain his 2008 form it would be a tremendous lift to the team.

    But not looking good thus far.

  288. fat kidd Says:

    with the 8th pick i wanted to draft cj spiller now for a fee of only $5.00 you can join the fatty you were right club,you will get a photo of me in a speedo holding a i was right sign,a fatty was right news letter and a fatty was right autographed slapchop.

  289. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That’s not what ur girlfriend said!

    ***

    LOL!

    fatty likes girls? don’t tell his partner parents

  290. RaiderRockstar Says:

    with the 8th pick i wanted to draft cj spiller now for a fee of only $5.00 you can join the fatty you were right club,you will get a photo of me in a speedo holding a i was right sign,a fatty was right news letter and a fatty was right autographed slapchop.

    ***

    stick to the confucious one-liners

  291. fat kidd Says:

    confucius say =fatty was right

  292. Raider O Says:

    LMAO RR.
    Is it the name, or do you that?

  293. Thec07 Says:

    Veldheer should be the backup C but should also start somewhere….

    ++++++++++++=

    Provided Satele is OK… this will allow Veldheer to play somewhere…

  294. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Saw the game last night on NFL network. Man, RG Carlile sucks! wow. Henderson looked like a 7th rounder on the play Campbell got hurt…I hope RoMac was taking notes, Patrick Willis is a monster!… Murphy, he’s our hope, yet still makes too many petty mistakes…Gotta love the Al Davis defensive schemes, en the play before the 9ers first fg, the one the pass bounced off the facemask of a TE, Tommy Kelly was in coverage! LOL, only Al draws up scht like that. TK was huffing behing the TE, trying to keep his breath.

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Something I didn’t have room or time for in my 2 stories: What was deal with Nick Miller’s fair catch to end game? He wants to go to UFL?

    -Vittorio Tafur (twitter)

    ***

    LOL!

  296. Thec07 Says:

    bounced off the facemask of a TE, Tommy Kelly was in coverage! LOL, only Al draws up scht like that. TK was huffing behing the TE, trying to keep his breath.
    +++++++++++++=

    ROFLMAO….I saw that in real time and was like WTF, how is he dropping back in coverage….lol

  297. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Players who need to show more, or they will be gone soon:

    The Entire OL
    JLH
    Chaz
    Routt
    Huff
    TH

  298. Dakota Says:

    How is Satele going to be okay? Is he suddenly going to learn the secrets of Castle Grayskull and the power sword to develop strength?

  299. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Gotta love the Al Davis defensive schemes, en the play before the 9ers first fg, the one the pass bounced off the facemask of a TE, Tommy Kelly was in coverage! LOL, only Al draws up scht like that. TK was huffing behing the TE, trying to keep his breath.

    ***

    I didn’t notice that. are you serious?

    HAHA. who asks a NT to cover a TE ???

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade Nick Miller for the secrets of Castle Grayskull!

  301. Thec07 Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am
    confucius say =fatty was right

    ++++++++++++

    Spiller is a talent no doubt, However we had bigger neds than a RB. Both our trenches were in disarray.
    Spiller as good as he is would not be able to run on our right side…

  302. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    HAHA. who asks a NT to cover a TE ???
    ________

    last year they had gerard warren playing centerfield coverage against denver. Marshall caught a pass infront of him and scored before warren could take a step. Only Al draws crazy stuff like that.

  303. Thec07 Says:

    I didn’t notice that. are you serious?

    HAHA. who asks a NT to cover a TE ???

    +++++++++++++++==

    It was TK, he dropped back in coverage, Had that been VDAVIS that would have been a TD….

    Just another experiment….

  304. bcz24 Says:

    Spiller is a 10-15 touch change of pace running back. Dont base your opinion of him on what he is doing in the preseason, when freddie jackson and marshawn lynch are both injured and not playing at all.

  305. Raider O Says:

    I know my prev pos said players, but I want to add Cable to that list.

    Fire Cable Now!!!!

  306. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Throw all the small-school talk out the door. Niners left guard Mike Iupati is as NFL-ready as any rookie offensive lineman in the league.

    Just ask Raiders coach Tom Cable, who went out of his way to congratulate Iupati after the 49ers’ 28-24 victory over the Raiders in Saturday night’s exhibition game at the Coliseum.

    “He’s going to be a good one,” said Cable, a former Idaho offensive lineman, just like Iupati.

    Pro Bowl running back Frank Gore agrees, citing the monstrous hole Iupati forged on his 49-yard carry up the middle on his first touch of the preseason.

    Iupati chip blocked a defensive tackle, charged upfield and wiped a linebacker out of the way as Gore sprinted up and away.

    It’s the sort of hit-and-run combination of strength at the line of scrimmage and speed downfield that’s allowing Iupati, all 331 pounds of him, to make the instant transition into the NFL.

    So much for the notion No. 17 overall is too high a spot to draft a guard.

    “It’s getting a lot better,” Iupati said. “From when I first got out here, I didn’t even look like a football player.”

    So, what advice did Cable give Iupati after their postgame man-hug?

    “He said to work hard. It’s going to be a long season, so take care of your body,” Iupati said. “I really like the guy.”

    -David White (SF Gate)

    ***

    who wanted us to draft this guy ???

  307. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Spiller is a 10-15 touch change of pace running back. Dont base your opinion of him on what he is doing in the preseason, when freddie jackson and marshawn lynch are both injured and not playing at all.

    ++++++++++++++++=

    That may be to start but Spiller is the truth….
    He is a maker tat will need to be on the field.
    He is bettrer than both Jackson, and Lynch…IMHO…

  308. Thec07 Says:

    who wanted us to draft this guy ???

    ++++++++++++

    not you…. you were saying draft spiller….

  309. RaiderRockstar Says:

    not you…. you were saying draft spiller….

    ***

    Thec: I hope you’re joking

    I wanted a tackle, offensive or defensive

  310. fat kidd Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Spiller is a 10-15 touch change of pace running back. Dont base your opinion of him on what he is doing in the preseason, when freddie jackson and marshawn lynch are both injured and not playing at all.

    …………………….fred jackson and marshawn lynnch are on the roster till buffalo can see what spiller can do then one of them is gone.

  311. Dakota Says:

    Tom Cable needs to be further demoted from Assistant o-line coach/Timeout Coordinator to just Assistant O-line Coach. Let’s stop that charade of him being the head coach and let Cable focus on the one thing he is supposed to be good at-the o-line.

  312. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
    not you…. you were saying draft spiller….

    ***

    Thec: I hope you’re joking

    I wanted a tackle, offensive or defensive

    +++++++++++++===

    Of course i am kidding we have you on record Bro….

  313. J Hill Says:

    who wanted us to draft this guy ???

    ——————————————————

    Another thing I was right about!

  314. fat kidd Says:

    we could have got spiller first round and a quality linebacker in a trade or second round pick

  315. Dakota Says:

    Hey, were has MLonetree been lately?

    Hope he has been taking his heart meds….

  316. Thec07 Says:

    Gotta go its been fun however, work calls…
    Will lurk in ltr…

    1 NATION…

  317. edward teach Says:

    Iupati also got away with some pretty blatant holds in that game. He got called for a couple in their previous game, and Singletary actually got in his face on the sideline after one play where he was holding and didn’t get called for it. They had Singletary miked up for the game; “You need to stop holding out there.”

    I watched him play more than a few times in college, and that is what he does. We’ll see if he can overcome that, because he’ll need to.

  318. Dakota Says:

    *where*

  319. J Hill Says:

    Iupati was DESTROYING Bryant!

    Things settled down once BIG John got in there!

  320. Just Win Says:

    RRRRAAAAAAIIIIIDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSSSSS!!!!

  321. bcz24 Says:

    I had this argument with a dumb Bills fan this morning when he tried to compare Spiller to CJ2K. You guys dont think there is a reason he NEVER had more than 20 touches at Clemson? Spiller is a game changer that needs to be on the field… much like Darren Sproles… for 15 plays a game.

  322. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you guys have ALL earned the right to trash me for my pre-rank picks if the run defense holds up this year with Seymour/Kelly/Bryant in the middle

    so far, I’m sticking to what I said both pre & post draft: the run defense still sucks and Routt is still a liability in coverage

    we’ll find out when we start playing some games that matter

  323. Dakota Says:

    I still think our D-line should consist of Matt S/Houston RDE, Kelly 3 tech, Henderson NT, and Seymour at LDE.

    I hope playing two 3 techs at DT on a regular basis works out, but I seriously doubt it.

  324. Raider O Says:

    Keep Cable as HC, but let him be more invovled in coaching the OL, hire a new STs coach, and let Hue and Marshall manage/ Coach their units.

  325. Just Win Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Gallery is certainly a Bust as the #2 overall franchise solidifying LT he was touted as…

    ….average LG though!

    Didn’t quite resurrect his career along the lines of Lincoln Kennedy, but at least he isn’t horrible.
    ==============================================

    Sometimes I wonder what you guys watch. Rob Gallery is a dominant NFL lineman. The reason he didn’t go to the pro bowl is because our team sucked. How many Detroit and St. Louis linemen went to the pro bowl? Notice that in both the preseason and last season our offense moves when he is in there. When he isn’t, we don’t go anywhere.

  326. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I still think our D-line should consist of Matt S/Houston RDE, Kelly 3 tech, Henderson NT, and Seymour at LDE.

    I hope playing two 3 techs at DT on a regular basis works out, but I seriously doubt it.

    ***

    Agreed

  327. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Watching that Niner game really opened my eyes to how far behind our lines are. Somehow, the Raiders’ redzone defense is always stout and their wheel routes and screens kept the offense moving; but both of the lines were completely outclassed out there Saturday night. The D-line was just painful to watch, especially early on against the Niner starters, they were overwhelmed, a sea of white, red and brown would completely overtake them on every dam running play. Then our offense would take the field and get absolutely no push running the ball. The protection was decent on average, but they were constantly allowing Willis and LaBoy to get into the backfield untouched all night. Veldheer still has a lot to learn about playing Center and Henderson is NOT a starting-caliber left tackle.

  328. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Veldheer still has a lot to learn about playing Center and Henderson is NOT a starting-caliber left tackle.

    ***

    Agreed

    good morning BBB

  329. bcz24 Says:

    I still think our D-line should consist of Matt S/Houston RDE, Kelly 3 tech, Henderson NT, and Seymour at LDE.

    I hope playing two 3 techs at DT on a regular basis works out, but I seriously doubt it.

    ***
    Yeah and the bulldozer they borrowed from the ground crew in the middle to at least redirect the run outside.

  330. fat kidd Says:

    ya either put mike bennett into run with the first team or you give d. mcfadden steroid injections into those lady gaga legs.

  331. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    morning RRS

  332. Dakota Says:

    Gallery is a dominant NFL lineman?

    LMAO

    Funny stuff. After failing at both tackle positions he has been an okay LG. Dominant is stretching it quite a bit. Steve Wisniewski was a dominant NFL lineman….Gallery is no such thing.

    Wisniewski didn’t play on a lot of great Raider teams, but he managed to make the pro bowl 8 times.

  333. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Every game that we play with McFadden as our primary back, will not be pretty. This O-line will get him killed…

  334. RaiderRockstar Says:

    it’s hard to evaluate talent in a soft, learning intensive camp. especially with the linemen

    Henderson-Gallery-Satele-Carlisle-Walker

    vs.

    Shaughnessy-Seymour-Kelly-Houston

    might be REALLY good in camp, with one unit besting the other every 2nd & 4th snap

    then when we face an actual NFL team with real linemen and we need to tackle guys to the ground it doesn’t work out so well

  335. J Hill Says:

    Our Dline rotation will be fine with Henderson moving up to no less than #3 in to rotation.

  336. Raider O Says:

    The DL needs Seymour. He is one of the best DL in the league.
    Pay and give him a LT contract. We need him!

  337. J Hill Says:

    Steve Wisniewski was a dominant NFL lineman….Gallery is no such thing.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly.

    Gallery will have some dominant plays during the game, but will offset those with missed blocks (or unexpected hand offs if you like that better) or stupid penalties.

    Dominant????

    Hilarious stuff!

  338. Raider O Says:

    Gallery is a BUST!!
    He is not even that good at playing G!!

    We passed on a lot of PB talent in one of the best drafts in the history of the game to end up with an avg G!

  339. r8eray Says:

    The Raiders have plans to make something of Veldheer. Cable was geeked when he found out he was still available in the 3rd round! He is a talented kid and has potential in pretty much anything you plug him in!

  340. Dakota Says:

    Since Seymour didn’t play I don’t think it is time to panic about the run D yet.

    I am more concerned with McClain being out of position several times and other times not being able to shed blocks and with Huff being unable to tackle to stop the big plays.

    I wish our base defense consisted of a d-line of:

    RDE: Matt S./Houston
    DT: Kelly
    NT: Henderson
    LDE: Seymour

    with Mitchell in at FS or SS and Huff on the bench

    and then on obvious passing downs:

    RDE: Matt S.
    DT: Seymour
    NT: Kelly
    LDE: Houston

    with Huff back on the field

  341. r8eray Says:

    Gallery is coming off back surgery! It will take him time to be 100%. Before the injury last year, he was actually pretty good…

  342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    in 5 years with 3 Super Bowl rings, Gallery & Huff will both retire and wait for an enshrinement into the Pro Football Hall of Fame

    Get Over it!

  343. SaintKaufman Says:

    Q. Coach Cable, are you here right now?

    Cable. Well, I can tell you that I see this as an opportunity for me to get better, you know, to push through that and to continue to work towards that.

    Q. Uh, what? So, you ARE here?

    Cable. I didn’t say that. We’ll just continue to look at it and continue to work on that.

    Q. (gun to head)…is your name Tom Cable?

    Cable. That hasn’t been determined yet. We’ll go back, look at the film, continue to work on it and continue to push to where we want to get to.

    bang

  344. fat kidd Says:

    d.mcfadden should be on the island of misfit toys as a running back who cant run.

  345. Raider O Says:

    I’m not worried about our DL. Seymour & TK with Big John & Bryant (on passing downs) in rotation us a solid DL.

    TK is playing well.

  346. RaiderRockstar Says:

    #340 Dakota, seemed obvious to me as well

  347. Dakota Says:

    LMAO,

    good one Saint!

    It really is a waste of time to even read what Cable says.

  348. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It really is a waste of time to even read what Cable says.

    ***

    he likes to say “obviously”

  349. Raider O Says:

    ROFLMAO Saint!!

  350. SaintKaufman Says:

    Holy crapballs! I couldn’t even finish the article.

    Watched the game again last night, thought McClain was showing his hand a little too early and the RB was just going the other way.

  351. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Gallery is our best lineman, but that does not a pro-bowler make; he is better than the worst rated O-lineman in the entire league (Henderson). He is better than the revolving cast of misfits at pivot (Groves, Satele, Morris, Veldheer. He is better than the “washed up 3 years ago but he still manages to start for us…” (Cooper Carlisle), and he may be better than Langston Walker, but he is certainly better than the wife beating Cornbread Green.

  352. J Hill Says:

    Disagree with your lineup Dakota.

    Running Downs

    LDE Seymour/Houston
    DT Kelly Henderson
    RDE Shaugnessy/Houston

    Passing Downs

    RDE Wimbley
    LDE Scott
    DTs Kelly Seymour

    Oh, and Trevor Scott SUCKS as a WLB. Thomas Howard needs to play that spot!

  353. Dakota Says:

    Since Seymour didn’t play I don’t think it is time to panic about the run D yet.

    I am more concerned with McClain being out of position several times and other times not being able to shed blocks and with Huff being unable to tackle to stop the big plays.

    I wish our base defense consisted of a d-line of:

    RDE: Matt S./Houston
    DT: Kelly
    NT: Henderson
    LDE: Seymour

    The plays that really bothered me from the game (other than the two times McFadden was handed the ball and a 49er was unblocked to greet him) was the time Walker was playing LT and was spinning in circles looking for someone to block and then running along side the 49 to the QB instead of blocking the guy….get your friggin eyes checked!

    Then the play where McClain ran all the way around the right side of the d-line while the RB went right up the middle and McClain’s body language was even saying “Oh sheet, I messed that up!”

    lol

  354. Dakota Says:

    WTF? meant to post this:

    The plays that really bothered me from the game (other than the two times McFadden was handed the ball and a 49er was unblocked to greet him) was the time Walker was playing LT and was spinning in circles looking for someone to block and then running along side the 49 to the QB instead of blocking the guy….get your friggin eyes checked!

    Then the play where McClain ran all the way around the right side of the d-line while the RB went right up the middle and McClain’s body language was even saying “Oh sheet, I messed that up!”

    lol

  355. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    But what if they decide to run on a passing down? Do you really want Scott and Wimbley at DE?

    Scott has proven that even the Raiders o-line could block him on running plays when he plays DE lol.

  356. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trevor Scott SUCKS as a WLB. Thomas Howard needs to play that spot!

    ***

    Jhill: both guys are awful against the run, but Scott is the better pass rusher – and he’s cheaper

  357. The Big Banana Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Gallery is a BUST!!
    He is not even that good at playing G!!

    We passed on a lot of PB talent in one of the best drafts in the history of the game to end up with an avg G!
    ========================================================

    Huh? Gallery is a good guard. A bust at LT? Yes, I’ll give you that. But an average guard? Inaccurate.

  358. RaiderRockstar Says:

    UFL’s Nighthawks sign Maurice Clarett

    ***

    no love for Lamont Jordan?

  359. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Falcons haven’t made rookie LB Sean Weatherspoon an official starter just yet.

    ***

    Raider O, you listening?

  360. inonewordraider Says:

    the score was 14 to 17 at halftime and when it was still 1’s vs 1’s we were leading yet everyone is acting like we were dominated.

  361. The Big Banana Says:

    no love for Lamont Jordan?

    =====================================================
    Poor sap is probably still holding out for an NFL gig. Some team with injuries, desperate for a RB.

  362. edward teach Says:

    Good God, Fatt Kidd. If we want to read Florio’s entire blog we’ll go there.

  363. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DeAngelo Williams was running on Saturday night behind the first team offensive line, and he only put up 13 yards on nine carries.

    ***

    oh snap!

    DMAC has company …

  364. The Big Banana Says:

    # inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    the score was 14 to 17 at halftime and when it was still 1’s vs 1’s we were leading yet everyone is acting like we were dominated.

    ========================================================

    Fans will be fans. They say they don’t care about the preseason, then act like the sky is falling when the team loses a glorified scrimmage. And all the whiner fans are probably elated right now that they beat us in the preseason. Whippee! Freaks!

  365. inonewordraider Says:

    Were more talented than the Colts or the Saints but with those qb’s they can score every possesion so the D is fresh, can take risks, and only has to stop you a couple times a game. Our O with guys like Campbell Reece, DMAC, Bush, DHB, Murphy, Miller is young, talented and full of hard workers so they can get to that point. Our D at full strength will be top flight. Now if only Cable could coach up that OL….

  366. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Watching the replay in parts right now.

    Man that John Henderson is pretty dang good against the run, and pretty damn worthless rushing the passer.

    As one dimensional as it gets!!

  367. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    When other teams start talking about Gallery, then I will believe the hype. As it stands he’s a 2nd overall pick that gets called for offsides and holding as much as the 6 rounders. He’s a bust, he is no Wisnewski, not even close to Minnesota’s Hutch, the best in the game.

  368. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I don’t know about being more talented than the Saints or the Colts. Maybe the Colts minus the QB but the Saints are a pretty talented team and are more similar to our players except Drew Breeze is the best baby, he makes that ship go! Now the Colts do a way better job of executing then we do right now. Both of these teams the talent shows up on film.
    —————————————————–
    inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 9:49 am
    Were more talented than the Colts or the Saints but with those qb’s they can score every possesion so the D is fresh, can take risks, and only has to stop you a couple times a game. Our O with guys like Campbell Reece, DMAC, Bush, DHB, Murphy, Miller is young, talented and full of hard workers so they can get to that point. Our D at full strength will be top flight. Now if only Cable could coach up that OL….

  369. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    John Henderson got pushed back on every play I saw him on the field. Tommy Kelly did a good job on the 2nd & inches, 3rd & 1, Nedney missed FG, series.

  370. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Talent is being able to do what others can’t. If when you say we are more talented than the colts & saints you mean we are capable of loosing 10+ games 7 years in a row, then I agree with you.

  371. BigTed707 Says:

    My Pre-Season 53

    (3) QB – J.Campbell(8)/Gradkowski(5)/Boller(7)
    
(3) RB – Bush(29)/D.Mcfadden(20)/Bennett(32)
    
(2) FB – Reece(45)/Cartwright(25)
    
(5) WR – Murphy(18)/Heyward-Bey(85)/Shillens(81)/Higgins(15)/Ford(12)

    
(3) TE – Z. Miller(80)/Stewart(86)/Meyers(83)

    (2) LT – B.Campbell(74)/M.Henderson(75)
    (2) LG – Gallery(76)/Carlisle(66)

    (2) C – Veldheer(68)/Satele(64)

    (2) RG – Walker(70)/Morris(51)

    (2) RT – Barnes(69)/Pears(72)

    (4) DT – Seymour(92)/Kelly(93)/J.Henderson(79)/Bryant(90)
    
(4) DE – Houston(99)/Shaughnessy(77)/Richardson(98)/Cooper(78)
    (3) MLB- McClain(55)/R.Brown(57)/Goethel(48)

    (4) OLB- Scott(91)/Wimbley(96)/Groves(52)/Howard(53)
    (5) CB – Asomugha(21)/C.Johnson(37)/Routt(26)/W.McFadden(22)/Ware(23)

    (4) S – Branch(33)/Mitchell(34)/Huff(24)/S.Brown(27)

    (1) K – Janikowski(11)

    (1) P – Lechler(9)
    
(1) LS – Condo(59)

    Practice Squad:
    RB: Manase Tonga(41)
    WR: Nick Miller(89)

    FS: Jerome Boyd(30)
    DE: Alex Daniels(71)
    DT: Kellen Heard(67)
    OG: Alex Parsons(65)
    OG: Allen Smith
    
K: Swayze Waters(1)

  372. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Thank you for mentioning that Walker play Dakota, I was just screaming at the TV, he was running at Campbell staring him down, all the while with a 49er DE right beside him, who eventually passed him and laid out Campbell. Turn around and BLOCK someone you stupid basterd…

  373. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    The Walker play when Campbell hurt his wrist? Reece enganged a LB, and Walker decided to observe that engagement instead of blocking the DE who demolished the QB. Reminded me of the Youtube college guard that stood still during a whole play.

  374. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sam Williams must have made at least 3 special teams tackles , including hammering a guy once.

    Can’t imagine him getting cut.

  375. Ryan Says:

    Frank Gore dominated the Raiders on back-to-back plays, then the took him out.

    V Davis didn’t play.

    Crabtree didn’t play.

    SF missed a field goal and didn’t make it on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 with Gore on the sidelines.

    I felt really good after the first two games, but SF is a much better team on D and rushing O then the Raiders have seen so far.

    It was definately a step back this weekend. Chris Johnson just needs to watch the Frank Gore plays and the Forte run to learn all he needs to learn about the Raiders run D.

    The same concerns from the last 7 years are still there. OL and run D.

    I did like how good the Raiders red zone O looks and their passing game.

    I hope the reason the Raiders didn’t look good after the great opening drive, is they went vanilla since they play them again. The Seattle game may be the same thing.

  376. Dakota Says:

    We have more talent than the Colts or Saints, excluding the qbs?

    Oh man, lol, I don’t know about that.

    I’d love for Brees or Manning to play for us this year to see if you are right though!

  377. Kirk Says:

    Just finished watching the game on TIVO.

    Gradkowski really is better than Campbell. He hit everybody in the numbers, but our receivers kept dropping the ball. The only problem is with our offensive line, Gradkowski is going to get killed.

  378. inonewordraider Says:

    Brees or Manning would take our D over theirs and our RB’s over theirs, WR talent pretty close

  379. fat kidd Says:

    if your a die hard raiders fan pray they cut d mcfadden and pick up a decent rb ,if they dont go too the window and jump cause it will be a another disappointing year .

  380. J Hill Says:

    Week 1 will not be close JFB!

    I can feel you shakin in your boots.

  381. Dakota Says:

    Another big difference, other than the QBs, between the Saints/Colts and the Raiders is coaching. They have good coaching staffs, we have:

    Tom Cable who is only qualified to coach an o-line…

    Sanjay Lal who seems to be teaching DHB to try and catch with his belly button or nipples…

    Marshall, who generally has a horrible run D…

    Fassell who took a very good special teams unit and turned it into a very bad special teams unit…

  382. J Hill Says:

    Chris Johnson just needs to watch the Frank Gore plays and the Forte run to learn all he needs to learn about the Raiders run D.

    ——————————————————-

    Desmond Bryant will not be in there to get ran over like he did on ALL of those runs. Seymour will have that clogged up.

  383. Dakota Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:11 am
    Brees or Manning would take our D over theirs and our RB’s over theirs, WR talent pretty close
    ______________________

    WR talent is pretty close? I am sorry but I would trade our WRs for either of those sets of WRs in a heartbeat. Not even close.

  384. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Luke Lawton or Sam Williams will make it, if not both

  385. J Hill Says:

    Have to imagine at least ONE of the OTs lost their job this weekend.

  386. Kirk Says:

    V should start at left offensive tackle. Campbell should start at guard, and Henderson should be moved to the right side tackle.

  387. Dakota Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
    if your a die hard raiders fan pray they cut d mcfadden and pick up a decent rb ,if they dont go too the window and jump cause it will be a another disappointing year .
    _________________

    Yeah, if we would just cut McFadden all our problems would be solved! Jezuz this has got to be the dumbest thing said in here since someone compared Tom Cable to John Madden.

  388. inonewordraider Says:

    DHB Murphy Miller vs

    Colston Meecham Schockey vs

    Wayne Gonzalez Clark

    obviously the Saints and Colts Wr’s are farther along but I’d argue our Corps can be just as good and would be with Brees or Manning at the healm. I beleive man for man our D and Rb’s are more talented

  389. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the blueprint to beat the Raider is simple – same as last year …

    run the ball & stop the run

    Raye bested Marshall on Saturday. on doubt he watched our first 2 preseason games and saw us trashing QB’s left & right, then saw Forte’s long TD run.

    so the Raiders wanted to attack the QB and the 49ers ran the ball down our throats instead. we went on our heels and then they were able to run or pass at will

    memories of the past 7 seasons run rampant in my mind

    if you’re soft in the middle of both lines, you simply aren’t going to win many football games – period

  390. inonewordraider Says:

    Sanjay Lal who seems to be teaching DHB to try and catch with his belly button or nipples…

    HA!

  391. fat kidd Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am
    fat kidd Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am
    if your a die hard raiders fan pray they cut d mcfadden and pick up a decent rb ,if they dont go too the window and jump cause it will be a another disappointing year .
    _________________

    Yeah, if we would just cut McFadden all our problems would be solved! Jezuz this has got to be the dumbest thing said in here since someone compared Tom Cable to John Madden.

    ………….the two dumbest things said in here jamarcus russell is going to take us too the superbowl and dmac is going to have a bust out year!!!

  392. morilla Says:

    watching DMac run makes me nervous. He gets in space and everything looks great but then comes first contact or a strong breeze and he goes down. He hasn’t changed, the guy is a wuss.

  393. Ryan Says:

    Desmond Bryant will not be in there to get ran over like he did on ALL of those runs. Seymour will have that clogged up.

    ——————————————————

    Until Seymour takes a play off, or gets double teamed.
    I like McClain, but he needs to grow up quick and learn to be in right place.

    OL and Run D are still broke (but getting better)

  394. Dakota Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am
    DHB Murphy Miller vs

    Colston Meecham Schockey vs

    Wayne Gonzalez Clark

    obviously the Saints and Colts Wr’s are farther along but I’d argue our Corps can be just as good and would be with Brees or Manning at the healm. _____________________

    No way, after one game in which Murphy and DHB dropped 4 of Manning’s passes, Manning would call his daddy and demand a trade.

  395. fat kidd Says:

    anyone who doesnt want to cut dmac cause they already bought his jersey mail it too me and i will sew a #2 on it so you can be mcfadden 22.

  396. Nnamdi21 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am
    Chris Johnson just needs to watch the Frank Gore plays and the Forte run to learn all he needs to learn about the Raiders run D.

    ——————————————————-

    Desmond Bryant will not be in there to get ran over like he did on ALL of those runs. Seymour will have that clogged up.

    ===================

    Desmond Bryant has had an EXCELLENT pre season until his hyper extended elbow.

    McClain’s the culprit on those long runs. He looks hesitant and over runs the play on occasion. Bryants been a real surprise and again looked very very good…

  397. RaiderRockstar Says:

    strongly disagree, Bryant = hot garbage

    McClain = rookie mistakes, but he better improve soon!

  398. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Kirk Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am
    V should start at left offensive tackle. Campbell should start at guard, and Henderson should be moved to the right side tackle.

    ======================

    Doubt they flip flop this late in the pre but you never know. Hendu’s never played RT that I know of but seriously, can’t think of very many LT’s who can contain a speedy LB like LaBoy every time without help.

    B Campbell runs hot and cold. Needs technique especially in protection. Occasionally gets beat off ball, pads not low enough, gets on skates and can’t anchor. Walked right back into the QB.

    Other times he locks on and dominates.

    Saw him pull the other night and it was impressive.

    He could be good, but it’ll take more than one pre season.

  399. Nnamdi21 Says:

    397. Thats ok RR. Just throw the games in and watch. Bryants been very effective especially against the run. Makin plays behind the LOS.

    Yeah McClain seems like he’s not flyin to the ball afraid to make mistakes and has that fraction 8th of sec delay.

    He’ll learn…fast hopefully!

  400. J Hill Says:

    Iupati is on McClain on those back to back runs from Gore. Iupati simply chipped Bryant and released to McClain. Bryant needs to occupy Iupati to clog up that play. Iupati is a beast though, so it’s no surprise to me that he took Bryant to school.

  401. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Peace owt Nation!~

  402. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:29 am
    strongly disagree, Bryant = hot garbage

    McClain = rookie mistakes, but he better improve soon!
    ____________

    McClain could be the second coming of Ray Lewis, but as long as the opponent’s oline can release a guard to put a helmet on him we are not going to stop the run. I saw two plays where the DTs (Kelly and Bryant I think) were handled with single coverage and McClain was then sent packing by who I thought was Iupati or whatever his name is…

    McClain doesn’t shed blocks well (sound familiar?) so it is critical that the DTs occupy the interior o-line and force the opponent to try and block McClain with a FB. Hopefully that will be the case with Henderson getting more playing time or with Seymour demanding more respect than Kelly or Bryant.

  403. J Hill Says:

    B Campbell runs hot and cold. Needs technique especially in protection. Occasionally gets beat off ball, pads not low enough, gets on skates and can’t anchor. Walked right back into the QB.

    ——————————————————

    #66 is Carlisle not Bruce Campbell.

  404. Dakota Says:

    Jhill, I think we are talking about the same stuff lol.

  405. fat kidd Says:

    prediction =nfl defensive player of the year D.Mccfadden for stopping the run!!!!!!!

  406. J Hill Says:

    McClain is playing slow. Seems like he is thinking instead of reacting. Waiting to see him read a play and shoot a gap!

  407. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so … does anybody remember when I said that JAX will have a better run defense than OAK this year?

    everybody scoffed, due to Morrison/McClain

    I hope somebody printed that!

  408. J Hill Says:

    Our secondary is really good.

    Watching the game now Dakota. Specifically to see Bryant and I just saw those 2 plays.

  409. BigLefty Says:

    McClain will be a good LB! He will make mistakes.

    BUT… If you are going to make them, be aggressive not tentative On both long runs he looked like he wasn’t sure which gap he was going to fill and just danced around.

    K Wimbley can’t cover a tight end! did you see how excited Alex Smith got when saw KW in man on man coverage. Couldn’t call the audible on the line of scrimmage fast enough

    Wimbley and Scott are passing down DE’s nothing more!

    Bring in Thomas Howard … Bring in Ricky Brown …Bring in Slade Norris … I don’t care Hell bring in Chuck Norris

  410. J Hill Says:

    Huff lays BIG HIT to dislodge ball from WR.

    Why hasn’t that got as much press as hit hit on Gore?

    By the way, that was a HELLUVA hit Huff layed on Gore. Most RBs go down hard on that. Gore is a man!

  411. J Hill Says:

    DMac’s 1st dn catch called back by Murhphy.

    That play is every DMac supporters dream!

    Damn U Murphy!

  412. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Routt got ran over by Gore on that long run and nobody wants to talk about it?

    just Huff?

    Hmmm… must either be a ton of MM fans in here or CJ37 haters

  413. raiderzmaverick Says:

    It really worries me what the coaches think about Mcfadden. He ran “really hard” between the tackles. He had 8 runs for a cumulative of 0 yards and one run for 9 yards outside. That kind of production (which he’s had since he’s been here never averaging 4 yards per carry) is NOT what we need.

  414. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t care Hell bring in Chuck Norris

    ***

    PASS

  415. J Hill Says:

    DHB, Murphy, Chaz ….

    Really looking for a 4th and 5th WR.

    —————————————————-

    Sad!

    Especially since one of the top 3 is about to go on IR.

    Time for a trade!

  416. J Hill Says:

    We need to go get Roy Williams from Dallas!

  417. J Hill Says:

    Julian Eddleman from NE!

  418. J Hill Says:

    TJ HousYourMama from Seattle!

  419. Ryan Says:

    Huff did have a nice shoulder block on Gore, but he launched him into a flailing Route who helped Gore keep his balance.

    The next play (I think) had Route blitz only to have Gore run right up the middle. Route could have at least tried to trip him up from behind but he missed.

  420. Nnamdi21 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    B Campbell runs hot and cold. Needs technique especially in protection. Occasionally gets beat off ball, pads not low enough, gets on skates and can’t anchor. Walked right back into the QB.

    ——————————————————

    #66 is Carlisle not Bruce Campbell.

    =========================

    I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here…

  421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill: I’d settle for Crayton from Dallas

    he doubles as a return man and is much cheaper. wouldn’t take much to get him either (5th-6th rounder?)

  422. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Best part of the game was the Tommy Kelly interview.

    He lost 35 pounds by running and switching from chili dogs to cheeseburgers!!

  423. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:44 am
    Routt got ran over by Gore on that long run and nobody wants to talk about it?

    just Huff?

    ==================

    I’m hoping they were slacking cuz its pre season but yeah, pizz poor tackling all around there…

  424. BigLefty Says:

    Hey Rockstar

    He’s in great shape for 70

  425. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jhill,

    Like the trash talk, but not fearing nothing with my squad.

    MJD and Deangelo Williams?? With Ricky Williams to boot?

    Championship!!

  426. Nnamdi21 Says:

    413. Translation: I never saw the game.

  427. Nnamdi21 Says:

    402. McClain doesn’t shed blocks well

    ————————-

    Wrong.

  428. J Hill Says:

    Best part of the game was the Tommy Kelly interview.

    He lost 35 pounds by running and switching from chili dogs to cheeseburgers!!

    —————————————————–

    Wifey and I were crackin up

    “No mo cheeleh dawgs ….”

    Like h im even more now, lol!

  429. J Hill Says:

    Jhill: I’d settle for Crayton from Dallas

    ——————————————————-

    Not good enough.

  430. inonewordraider Says:

    If Cable can make our OL solid sky’s the limit, if not Boller will get some playing time

  431. Dakota Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:45 am
    It really worries me what the coaches think about Mcfadden. He ran “really hard” between the tackles. He had 8 runs for a cumulative of 0 yards and one run for 9 yards outside. That kind of production (which he’s had since he’s been here never averaging 4 yards per carry) is NOT what we need.
    __________________

    You shouldn’t just look at a box score. If you had watched the game you would have seen that on the two carries where McFadden lost yards there was a 49er left unblocked and in the backfield with him.

  432. J Hill Says:

    With Ricky Williams to boot?

    ——————————————————

    Brown is healthy and Marshall in on that sqaud now. Williams will get morphed by Benson if you dare start him at the flex position.

    My team is LOADED !!!!!

  433. Dakota Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:58 am
    402. McClain doesn’t shed blocks well

    ————————-

    Wrong.
    __________

    I’ll take Charlie Casserly’s and Mike Iupati’s word over yours lol.

  434. J Hill Says:

    I can’t believe how you FFL didn’t take Raider players, lol!

    It’s going to make my thrashing of you guys even sweeter!

  435. NoMoreFargasForever Says:

    When Tommy Kelly starts dominating games than I’ll like him, until then lotta bs hype , glad in 3 yr of big contract you started working hard not the first.

  436. Dakota Says:

    J Hill Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 11:06 am
    I can’t believe how you FFL didn’t take Raider players, lol!

    It’s going to make my thrashing of you guys even sweeter!
    _______________

    I thought about taking Chaz with my last pick, then decided to go with Kevin Walter.

  437. inonewordraider Says:

    How good was our draft class this year? is Ware the only guy out of 8 not making the team?
    -Houston and Mcfadden are impressive
    -Mcclain is solid and will continue to improve
    -Veldheer, and Campbell will be starters by next year
    -Goethel and Brown are good for depth

  438. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Mornin Dakota, nmff, Inone, Nnamdie, J Hill, NATION!

  439. BigLefty Says:

    I thought they would take one of DHB’s thumbs for Bush

    He has 10 of them

  440. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I can’t believe how you FFL didn’t take Raider players

    ***

    Jhill: Nick Miller is still available

    have at it bro :)

  441. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB has 10 thumbs?

    LOL!

    ouch Lefty …

  442. J Hill Says:

    Cooper Carlisle runs hot and cold. Needs technique especially in protection. Occasionally gets beat off ball, pads not low enough, gets on skates and can’t anchor. Walked right back into the QB.

  443. J Hill Says:

    Jhill: Nick Miller is still available

    —————————————————

    I have DHB, Jason Campbell, Jano, and the Raiders D.

    I think I’m well represented!

  444. fat kidd Says:

    bush just needs too stick his thumb in his mouth and suck on it ,it makes your teeth crooked but it helps it heal sooner!!!

  445. Raider75 Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 10:58 am
    402. McClain doesn’t shed blocks well

    ————————-

    Wrong.
    __________

    I’ll take Charlie Casserly’s and Mike Iupati’s word over yours lol.
    ………..

    Charlie Casserly? You mean the unemployed guy? If his opinion is so valid, why is not on an NFL staff.

    Could it be because he gets more wrong than right?

  446. J Hill Says:

    Top of the mornin’ to ya DR!

  447. J Hill Says:

    RRS,

    Forgot to suggest child care as a home business wifey can get into.

  448. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I can’t believe how you FFL didn’t take Raider players, lol!

    It’s going to make my thrashing of you guys even sweeter!

    *******************************

    I was going to take Bruce, but Plunkett beat me to it.

    Was looking at Lou Murphy but realized he had the same week 10 bye that 2 of my other WR’s had, so went with Roy Williams.

    Maybe I will pick up Michael Bennett once D-Mac gets hurt.

  449. fat kidd Says:

    trade dmac for __________?

  450. J Hill Says:

    I was going to take Bruce

    —————————————————–

    Why would you want the bacup QB?

  451. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Forgot to suggest child care as a home business wifey can get into.

    ***

    we thought about that, not too many people willing to drive all the way out to Podunk to drop off & pick up thier kiddos

    my wife has decided to go part-time effective 11/8/2010. then shortly after she’ll be on maternity leave and pick back up part-time 6-8 weeks or whatever her work allows

    she’ll have 2 days off with little man. the only 3 days we’ll probably have him with a babysitter. some lady from Venezuela that only charges $15 per day and will teach him spanish too

    too bad I took 4 years of German in high school … haha

  452. 30 year raider Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Forgot to suggest child care as a home business wifey can get into.

    ***

    we thought about that, not too many people willing to drive all the way out to Podunk to drop off & pick up thier kiddos

    my wife has decided to go part-time effective 11/8/2010. then shortly after she’ll be on maternity leave and pick back up part-time 6-8 weeks or whatever her work allows

    she’ll have 2 days off with little man. the only 3 days we’ll probably have him with a babysitter. some lady from Venezuela that only charges $15 per day and will teach him spanish too

    too bad I took 4 years of German in high school … haha
    ############################################

    we are in the same predicament…we dont want to send the lil guy to daycare… we need to find a hispanic lady around 50-60… they are always real caring for the kids

  453. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    SPOON!!
    He is not playing well so far. I think Mcclain is doing better, but I only watched spoon play 1 game. I also hear & read he is not going great.

    I wish the him the best of luck, and I think he will be a great player.
    SPOON!

  454. 30 year raider Says:

    is kevin mawae still avail????

  455. GANJApassion Says:

    Here’s what I saw yesterday.

    For the first time in a few years we can actually have an intelligent debate about who our starting QB should be.

    Campbell seems more relaxed and poised in the pocket. And he throws a beautiful spiral. Sometimes he seems a little too relaxed because he doesn’t realize that our line will get him killed if he doesn’t get the ball outta there quicker. But that opening drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. he was calm, collected, and has a good command of the huddle

    Gradkowski doesn’t throw as pretty a pass, or as deep as Campbell, but several things stood out to me.

    1) His energy. Right after Campbell went out, the Raiders looked completely deflated. You could see their body language. But Grads came on the field with a ball of energy and electrified the whole Coliseum! Diving in the Black Hole,lol.

    2) Man was he accurate last night. I mean on a couple of drives he was looking like the second coming of Drew Brees,lol. The way he threaded that pass to DHB in between 2 or 3 defenders was a thing of beauty.

    3) He moves around the pocket when it starts collapsing and makes plays to keep the chains moving. He knows the team and the players better than Campbell at this point, and remembers his injuries last year, so he knows not to get too comfortable in the pocket behind that line.

    I’m a little nervous with Campbell going out, but Grads lit up the Coliseum last night. Gotta give that man his props.
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    1. GRADOWSKI FOR STARTING QB!!!!!
    2. We will never be what we should if the O-line dont get fixed wassup with the Cable guy?(coaching problems and lack of talent)
    3. Huff needs to be in on obvious passing downs only, cuz he gets ran over more the idianapolis 500
    4. Our team should be top of the league when it comes to interceptions and top ten in sacks (that comes down to coaching because we have the talent)
    5. I think we have a decent WR core they just need to keep working harder we will be fine louis Murphy my favorite player on O since last year will be special he’s a Raider type player (As well as QB Grad)
    6. Better specail teams coach

    I cant stress enough our O-line if we had that Dmac would be better, our QB’s would be better which would make or receivers better which would make our whole Offense better which would make our Defense better and i think we have one the beter D’s in the league but they have to work to hard and too much

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