Mum’s the word on Raiders aches, pains
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 30th, 2010 at 2:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders entered lockdown mode Monday in their first post-training camp practice session at the club facility in Alameda.
Some news and notes as relayed by beat writer Steve Corkran:
– Coach Tom Cable conceded he was happy to see Jason Campbell throwing the ball after suffering a stinger and a right wrist injury against San Francisco, but wasn’t going into detail about injuries to Campbell or anyone else.
“We are going to adhere to the in-season injury policy and we’re not going to talk about injuries, or where anyone’s at or what’s going on with them,” Cable said.
Editorial aside: OK, then how come through at least 90 percent of his coaching tenure with the Raiders, Cable has opened press briefings with the statement, “Quick injury update . . . ”
Cable left it open regarding Campbell’s availability Thursday night, even though it’s a virtual certainty he won’t play.
“Don’t know that yet,” Cable said. “And it has nothing to do with injuries, it has to do with what we’re going to do with our team.”
Editorial aside: Oops. He just talked about injuries.
As for Michael Bush, he may or may not have had a super secret procedure done on his fractured left thumb Monday.
“We’re not going to talk about those things, any of that,” Cable said.
When asked if he could confirm Bush had the procedure, he answered, “No.”
Editorial aside: An educated guess _ sounds like the head coach got a lecture about being too forthcoming about injuries. Another educated guess _ Al Davis would have much rather have heard Cable say Bush’s thumb was “sore” rather than fractured and not mentioned that Chaz Schilens would be out three to six weeks.
– Cable repeated there has been no movement about adding an extra wide receiver given the absence of Schilens. Receivers recently on the market include Antonio Bryant (cut by the Bengals) and Laveranues Coles (cut by the Jets) although Bryant has been injured and Coles has talked of retiring.
– Cable on Bruce Gradkowski: “I think he certainly went and proved he’s the backup quarterback here.”
– It may be time for an in-season policy on about injuries, but it’s not yet the in-season policy for media access as the locker room remained closed and only a few players were made available.
– Safety Tyvon Branch didn’t sound overly concerned about the 49ers rushing for 166 yards, pointing out that the Raiders are still getting adjusted to new schemes and were without a key piece of the run defense.
“We still have to work out the rough patches. We changed a lot of stuff up coming into this year as opposed to last year,” Branch said. “And then Richard Seymour not playing I think is the biggest difference. He gets those guys fired up up front. Once we get him back it’s a tremendous change in the defense, tremendous.”
Cable thought there was no issue with run fits or assignments. It was poor tackling, pure and simple.
– Left tackle Mario Henderson wasn’t ducking the issue of who was responsible for Campbell’s stinger. Forty-Niners outside linebacker Travis LaBoy was his assignment.
“I take responsibility. That’s my fault. The only thing I can do is get better,” Henderson said. “Thank God the injury is minor. All I can do, like they told me, is get better and move on. Just try not to let it happen again.”
Campbell told Henderson there were no hard feelings.
“I even texted him. It was like, ‘I apologize. I hope you’re OK.’ He told me he was good,” Henderson said. “Like I said, now it’s behind me. We can just move on. It shows a lot of credit.”
– Rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain arrived with the reputation of carrying himself like a veteran on the field and in the film room. He’s already a pro at avoiding interviews as well. Sometimes he doesn’t even respond with to a request with his voice, he’ll put his hands palm down in a gesture which apparently means “no chance” and then keeps on walking.
– Cable’s review of Jared Veldheer, in his first start as a center in the NFL:“I thought pretty good. There are two plays I would like to have back. He probably would do. But I thought overall he did a fine job and I think for a guy going in playing against a 3-4, being covered every snap like that, you would have to say it was probably a little better than expected.”
– With Schilens out, here is how Cable handicapped the wide receivers competition behind Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey: “I think there’s a number of guys. I think Yamon Figurs has stepped it up. Jacoby Ford. We’ve got to teach him to get his feet up underneath him when he’s coming out of breaks a little bit. Johnnie Lee Higgins has showed some things. So we have a nice corps right there, a next group just ready to step up.”
If Todd Watkins had caught that last pass from Gradkowski, he’d probably have merited a mention.
Cable’s top three priorities for the Seattle game on short rest: 1) Tackling; 2) Kick coverage; 3) Consistency on offense.
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August 30th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
With Schilens out, here is how Cable handicapped the wide receivers competition behind Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey: “I think there’s a number of guys. I think Yamon Figurs has stepped it up. Jacoby Ford. We’ve got to teach him to get his feet up underneath him when he’s coming out of breaks a little bit. Johnnie Lee Higgins has showed some things. So we have a nice corps right there, a next group just ready to step up.”
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Nick Miller ???
Guess not.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
2nd!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
With Schilens out, here is how Cable handicapped the wide receivers competition behind Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey: “I think there’s a number of guys. I think Yamon Figurs has stepped it up. Jacoby Ford. We’ve got to teach him to get his feet up underneath him when he’s coming out of breaks a little bit. Johnnie Lee Higgins has showed some things. So we have a nice corps right there, a next group just ready to step up.”
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Bye Nick Miller.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Justin Fargas was just released from Denver. Any chance we pick him back up?
August 30th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
What was the count on dropped pass in a row? 4 or 5?
August 30th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
“Johnnie Lee Higgins as shown some things”. WHEN has he shown anything?
August 30th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
here’s my question : how many yards do we have to keep Chris Johnson under to win week 1. 100?
August 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
COW
You bring up a great point that only a few of us have noticed.
The Oline has been neglected for years.
Al does not spend any money on it compared to the reast of the team.
Hell, Al spends much more on the ST then the oline
August 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Raiders – tied fo 9th fewest sacks allowed. Tied with Colts, NYG, SF and others.
Currently 13th in Total Offense. 13th!
Currently the #2 Pass D.
It is all preseason but anybody looking at the preseason as all doom & gloom isn’t paying attention.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Uncle Al crackin the whip, just to remind everyone in Alameda who the hell’s in charge….
Nick Miller—> Practice Squad…
August 30th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
You bring up a great point that only a few of us have noticed.The Oline has been neglected for years.
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Really? I’d say more than a few. More like most.
O line HAS been neglected.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Agree on the need to blitz. Didn’t vs SF and it let them get in a rythm.
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COW, I know preseason is to look and learn,not show too much. did it appear that the niners where showing a lot????
August 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
And Condo STAYS!?!?!
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Are you being serious? Do you think Condo should have been cut?
He is a very solid long snapper \ special teams player. He even made the pro bowl.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Justin Fargas got cut by the Donkeys!!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Plunketthead Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
COW
You bring up a great point that only a few of us have noticed.
The Oline has been neglected for years.
Al does not spend any money on it compared to the reast of the team.
Hell, Al spends much more on the ST then the oline
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another hilarious point… i think everyone and their mother have stated for years that the raiders need oline upgrades.
V
August 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
WTF!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
If you cuss it dont go thru?
August 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
well now i know i made some real good points but im buzzed so ill just holla tomorrow..since you cant f#@cin cuss
THE NEW MEMBER!!!!! but long time raiders fan!!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Good lessen, Grasshopper Ganga!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
THX>….real talk…Sac town kings and raiders shizzznit
August 30th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
My Ex lives in Sac-town, I’m East Coast, lol, she’s all your’s, lol!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
GANJApassion Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
well now i know i made some real good points but im buzzed so ill just holla tomorrow..since you cant f#@cin cuss
THE NEW MEMBER!!!!! but long time raiders fan!!!!
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Welcome in Bro….
August 30th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Minneapolis Star-Tribune columnist C.J. caught former NBA star Dennis Rodman while he was eating lunch and interviewed him.
The columnist asked a series of outrageous questions about his personal life, including a question about who was better in bed, Carmen Electra or Madonna.
Later in the interview, Rodman claimed he has had sex with 2,000 women, saying “probably 500″ were not whores.
C.J and Rodman also discuss gold-diggers, STDs and his marriage
August 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Thec, having a little fun with him, welcome in Ganja!
August 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Post 23 – Fat Kidd
Come on man, really? You felt that was worth posting on a Raider blog? Dude…..
August 30th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Post 23 – Fat Kidd
Come on man, really? You felt that was worth posting on a Raider blog? Dude…..
…………..well did you have sex with 2000 women let us know when you get to one.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Miller has scholarship written all over him. I’d cut Watkins and JLH. Haven’t seen much of Yamon yet.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
For the first time in many many games, I saw our receivers catching the ball more than our te…good progress, but still a lot of work to do, especially those drops.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I wonder if the Raiders are going to pick up Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas if they get released.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
DHB hasn’t look too bad.. The few catches he has made he would have dropped last year. His acceleration to his break is much faster and smoother than last year. And he is actually holding onto the ball.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Glad Nnamdi is working with DHB. It HAS to help working extra reps with the best DB in football.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Raiders will win the AFC West. You heard it here first. I expect you all to acknowledge this statement when it happens.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I see Fat Kidd is a tool as usual.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Thanks for every one welcomin me in i appreciate it now that i know theres no cursin alound you will get some good feedback and thoughts from me
we wont be good until our O_line gets better players…thats where it all starts
August 30th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
A.B. Long time no hear, good to see ya, I declared it weeks ago, but you can go first!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
if it happens i will.personally i say they will lose the first 2 road games…..then what?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Raiders will win the AFC West. You heard it here first. I expect you all to acknowledge this statement when it happens.
i agree wit you a.b.paine the turd i mean third
August 30th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
you guys are like browns fans.giddy with hope,yet ignoring all the raiders flaws which will do them in
August 30th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
We will always be the best team in our divison..3 superbowlws baby!!!! chargers wont ever win one….next draft is crucial…Protection protection, protection
August 30th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
you guys need a list of reasons they will tank another season?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Raiders will win the AFC West. You heard it here first. I expect you all to acknowledge this statement when it happens.
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Actually I beat you by a cuple of weeks Bro…
August 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Lhaye, name me one flaw? We got rid of Kiffy?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
I’ve been banned for a while. I’m not sure why. Is Richochet and Beeecham still around?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
they should trade that idiot mcfadden for a 4th round pick,thats all they would get,maybe a third rd.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Thec, having a little fun with him, welcome in Ganja!
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Break our new brother in slow…lol
August 30th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
you guys need a list of reasons they will tank another season?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~1) still no O-line
2) Special teams
3)Coaching
4)Running protection
5)Michale Huff cant tackle on run plays
6)Al davis (A legeden Too old)
7)Refs Hate on else tell the end of time
August 30th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
A.B. Yep, so were they, so it’s even, be nice, no matter how much it hurts!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Mike Huff sure hasn’t looked very good during the pre-season games. As usual he keeps missing tackle after tackle. I said this once before, he will be the weak link, and is the weak link on what could and should be a very solid defense.
I really like our D-Line. I can’t remember that last time it has this much potential. And, with some really young dudes learing from Richy Seymour is an added bonus.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
GANJApassion says: Al davis (a legeden Too old) WTF?
Either you are Yoda, or you live up to your name a little too much.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
I’ve been banned for a while. I’m not sure why. Is Richochet and Beeecham still around?
……………you were banned for stupid comments
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Al go after a FS in the 2nd round next year.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
flaw#1-too much man defense,not enough zone.no team in the nfl has fewer looks on defense.#2-obviously the o-line,aside from gallery everyne else is average at best.#3-the worst tackling team in the nfl,especially in the secondary.huff is a chicken$@#@.#4d-line is thin on talent,and its “best” plyer is 31.#5the schedule is brutal,with two road losses in the 1st 3 games.#6-al davis still calls the shots
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
LOL post 49. However, I wouldn’t compare Mr. Al Davis to yoda… And I am not dis-respecting Mr. Davis.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
fat kidd Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
……………you were banned for stupid comments
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Then why haven’t you been banned?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
We have had a decent Super bowl defense since 2002 and befor that..lil things made us suck…like specila teams, decapline, coaching and tackling…Huff comes out on ruxhim plays Miker mitchell in that will help…O-line wont be completly fixed for another year
August 30th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Fat Kidd, you are so funny! LMAO
August 30th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
GANJApassion are you typing on a cell phone or PDA?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Just watched the game on TIVO today.
Some thoughts…
The big hit on Campbell should have been a 15 yard penalty for a blow to the head.
49ers scored a field goal because of a bogus pass interference call…it should have been called on the offense.
49ers did not score the last touchdown…it wasn’t even close.
Minus those 10 points, we would have won.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
#7-3rd and long ,4 man rush with no blitzing,get used to that because that will go all year.never enough blitzing,never enough zone,just that gap defense from the 80’s
August 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
fat kidd Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
……………you were banned for stupid comments
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Then why haven’t you been banned?
…………….its my website……….
August 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
GANJA, your going to fit right in here with that grammar.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
oh yeah,the refs will screw the raiders every game as usual
August 30th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Such sassy whit from Fat Kidd!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I read Dakota’s phoney press release that got him banned. He released it to our fantasy league. LMFAO!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
LOL drunk typin too fast and dont care too much to fix that grammer..as long as you get the point i make….goin to carls J will be back in like 30 if yall still round…GRAMMAR IS OVERRATED I COULD BE PERFECT BUT PERFECT IS OVRATED
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
not whit its my website ask jerry who signs his check?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
man i was in the nosebleeds at the game, and even i could see it wasnt a td. i never got to see a replay
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Hopefully there actually ARE exotic blitz schemes this time around, and the coaches aren’t just blowing smoke. If the Raiders can get consistent pressure, I’m less worried about Huff in coverage. It’ll help him be that “center fielder” that the Raiders need.
I don’t see him ever being a solid tackler, though. And as the last line of defense in a one-deep safety defensive scheme, eventually he’ll be tested (or toasted…) the way he was in Chicago.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
SO YOU SEE I HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE MANY TIMES.I’M NOT BUYING INTO THIS.THEY TALK A LOT,BUT TALK IS CHEAP.IF I’M WRONG I’LL BE LAUGHING,BUT I THINK ITS ANOTHER DIVE OFF THE CLIFF
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Agree on the need to blitz. Didn’t vs SF and it let them get in a rythm.
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COW, I know preseason is to look and learn,not show too much. did it appear that the niners where showing a lot????
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I was kinda surprised how exotic SF got on D considering we play in the regular season.
1 sack came on a delayed blitz that looked like a half-stunt. Henderson didn’t read it. In week 7 he and Gallery will be aware of it.
I suspect that after the opening TD drive Singletary’s pride got the better of him. Our D stayed very basic. On offense we had no swings or screens to DMAC and a lot of basic pass patterns.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
GANJA, I guess brain cells are overrated too, huh?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
GANJApassion Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
LOL drunk typin too fast and dont care too much to fix that grammer..as long as you get the point i make….goin to carls J will be back in like 30 if yall still round…GRAMMAR IS OVERRATED I COULD BE PERFECT BUT PERFECT IS OVRATED
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Hopefully you are walking or riding a bicycle and not driving. Due to your lack of ability to type a comprehensive sentance, I am very nervous about your ability to operate a vehicle at this point.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
befor i leave….how many TDS have JC threw??? now how many TD has BGrad thrown?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
All I know is the Niner’s first unit should have scored 13 points against our first unit (give them the missed fg and take away the spec team td) and we scored 21 points against their first unit, through 2.5 quarters. I can live with that.
JV is going to start at C this year. Al’s orders.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
THE ONLY PERFECT THING IS A PERFECT 4TH OR 5TH IN THE DIATONIC SCALE….LOOK IT UP
August 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Didn’t see that Dominate D-Line and the Natural Pressure, I’d come to expect.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
im walking no worry…now i know im in english class my speech will be better i apologize
August 30th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
THE O-LINE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BLOCK THE TITANS FRONT,OR ZONA’S FRONT.BAD MATCHUP IN BOTH GAMES
August 30th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Kell, had any stalkers lately?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
McClain doesn’t wanna talk – so what? Rather have silent and deadly over loud and odorless any day.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Didn’t see that Dominate D-Line and the Natural Pressure, I’d come to expect.
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The blame is on Al Davis right KoolKell? We know, it’s all Al Davis’ fault.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
BTW The 49ers TD pass came against the zone. Not saying we should go 100% m2m but having Routt squat in the flat while Branch and Huff try to cover 3 wrs in the end zone may not be a great plan.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
It was nice catching up with you fellows!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
# Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I was kinda surprised how exotic SF got on D considering we play in the regular season.
1 sack came on a delayed blitz that looked like a half-stunt. Henderson didn’t read it. In week 7 he and Gallery will be aware of it.
I suspect that after the opening TD drive Singletary’s pride got the better of him. Our D stayed very basic. On offense we had no swings or screens to DMAC and a lot of basic pass patterns.
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Thanks for bringing this up C.O.W.
I was preaching this fact all day yesterday to all the gloom and doom predictors who were acting like the sky was falling because the Niners won on Sat.
It’s not about who wins the battle, but who wins the war. And the Raiders vs Niners war this season comes in week 6.
The SF Sissies tipped their hat way more than we did, and they still didn’t dominate us in that game.
With as many mistakes as we made in that game, 14 points on offense, (not counting the kickoff return td, or the garbage time td at the end of the game)
does not qualify as a dominant performance against our defense by any stretch of the imagination.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
IN CLOSING I HAVE BEEN A RAIDER FAN FOR 44 YEARS.I FORGOT MORE ABOUT RAIDER BALL THAN MOST PEOPLE KNOW.BUT I’M NOT BUYING IT.I HOPE I’M WRONG
August 30th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Agree on the need to blitz. Didn’t vs SF and it let them get in a rythm.
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COW, I know preseason is to look and learn,not show too much. did it appear that the niners where showing a lot????
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I was kinda surprised how exotic SF got on D considering we play in the regular season.
1 sack came on a delayed blitz that looked like a half-stunt. Henderson didn’t read it. In week 7 he and Gallery will be aware of it.
I suspect that after the opening TD drive Singletary’s pride got the better of him. Our D stayed very basic. On offense we had no swings or screens to DMAC and a lot of basic pass patterns.
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COW <——-Needs his own NATION web site to drop information….
COW <——- Is the Voice of reason…
August 30th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
RRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEEEERRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Didn’t see that Dominate D-Line and the Natural Pressure, I’d come to expect.
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Didn’t see Seymour in there either.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Just Win Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
RRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDDEEEERRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!
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Allday everyday……
August 30th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
# Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
BTW The 49ers TD pass came against the zone. Not saying we should go 100% m2m but having Routt squat in the flat while Branch and Huff try to cover 3 wrs in the end zone may not be a great plan.
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That score also came against the D Dline and having John Henderson meant NO pressure on their Q.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I think it’s safe to say the Raiders take the precaution and sit out Campbell vs. Seattle this Thursday. Can’t risk it and I wanna see Brennan out there.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
# Just Win Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Didn’t see that Dominate D-Line and the Natural Pressure, I’d come to expect.
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Didn’t see Seymour in there either.
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Good point Just Win. How good would the Niners D have looked on Saturday without Patrick Willis?
And what’s so hypocritical, is that if the Niners D had struggled in that case, everyone would have said that it was because Willis sat out.
But when our Pro Bowl, Hall of Fame D lineman sits out and we have some lapses on defense, you got some people in here acting like our season is over before it even starts.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Willis McGahee and Tony Richardson when/if they get cut?
Jared Gaither and Antonio Bryant when/if they get healthy?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
I love all the talk from the Raider broadcasters that Jason Campbell “only” got a stinger. What a “stinger” means is your arms and/or your legs go completely numb. That has got to be pretty disconcerting if it happened to you.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
The SF Sissies tipped their hat way more than we did, and they still didn’t dominate us in that game.
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game will be tougher when it counts;
Gore, VDAVIS, and Crabtree will be playing…
August 30th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Assuming a new CBA is reached, Gaither is a free agent after the end of this season. If the Raiders don’t make a trade now, and Henderson doesn’t show improvement, they could still get Gaither in the offseason. We all know Big Al won’t have a problem paying him…
August 30th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Good point Just Win. How good would the Niners D have looked on Saturday without Patrick Willis?
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They didn’t have Abrayo Franklin in there who is probably their 2nd best defensive player. If he was in there, we most likely would not have seen Veldheer playing center. At least not for long.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Coach on Wheels Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
BTW The 49ers TD pass came against the zone. Not saying we should go 100% m2m but having Routt squat in the flat while Branch and Huff try to cover 3 wrs in the end zone may not be a great plan.
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Blown lab experiment….
August 30th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago, no worries Super Loyal Fans?
August 30th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago, no worries Super Loyal Fans?
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No.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Kell, one dropped pass from winning that one, O-line has to go!
August 30th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
The SF Sissies tipped their hat way more than we did, and they still didn’t dominate us in that game.
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game will be tougher when it counts;
Gore, VDAVIS, and Crabtree will be playing…
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So will Bush, Seymour, and Nnamdi.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago, no worries Super Loyal Fans?
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You’re right. The two games that Richard Seymour didn’t play.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
August 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Blackouts are within a 100 mile radius of the stadium however I am not sure if u go 105 miles to a local bar if you will be able to watch it or not.
Anyone?
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I’ll tell ya….the NFL’s outdated and ridiculous blackout policy is actually archaic and beyond stupid.
There way of thinking ohh, if we black the games out if they don’t sell out is a warped way of thinking.
Their game would be promoted more by televising all local games regardless of sellouts.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
The issue with the Raider defense for years and years is they play well and then give up the big play. And I mean the big big play. That is what happened in the last two preseason games as well. That should be fixable. The operative word is should.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Boller and Brennan should play most of the game.
Grads plays 1st quarter only IMO.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The 4 NFL Preseason games and for that matter training camp are also archaic notions that most likely will be things of the past in the next few years.
August 30th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
They didn’t have Abrayo Franklin in there who is probably their 2nd best defensive player. If he was in there, we most likely would not have seen Veldheer playing center. At least not for long.
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Why not? Morris? A healthy Satele are any better?
August 30th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Just Win Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
The issue with the Raider defense for years and years is they play well and then give up the big play. And I mean the big big play. That is what happened in the last two preseason games as well. That should be fixable. The operative word is should.
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Hopefully “years and years” ends this year.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Look people, If you were Niners fans, (which it appears that some of you secretly are), would you have been happy with how the Niners played?
Giving up 3 td’s. One on the opening drive. The other two to the backup QB. Missed field goals. More false start and offsides penalties than the Raiders.
Singletary sure wasn’t happy. He said that he contemplated sending the first team units back out there in the 4th quarter because of how poorly they played.
It’s preseason, and we have some stuff to clean up.
But at this point if you’ve been following the other teams around the league, there are a lot of teams picked to go deep into the playoffs that look A LOT worse than we do right now.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Len, honestly, one or two good plugs for the O-line, need V on left side, Morrison RT side, buy time for play to develope, open lines for RB’s, we aren’t anywhere close, Cable doesn’t see this?
August 30th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Their game would be promoted more by televising all local games regardless of sellouts.
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Yep. A 3 hr infomercial to the youngsters and adult fence dwellers.
The youngsters would then pester their parents to take them to a Raider Game.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Reminder.
The South Texas Raider Fantasy League Draft that was suposed to take place yesterday is tonight at 10:45 PM Eastern Time, be there.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The Cowboys have been picked to go to the Super Bowl by many, and they look worse than a Pop Warner football team so far this pre season.
Their coach went on National TV and said that they are no where near ready for the Prime Time yet. But as usual, many analysts are chalking it all up to preseason.
I see the mistakes that we need to clean up just as much as the next fan, but I just don’t like the double standards.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
They didn’t have Abrayo Franklin in there who is probably their 2nd best defensive player. If he was in there, we most likely would not have seen Veldheer playing center. At least not for long.
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Why not? Morris? A healthy Satele are any better?
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It is VERY difficult to learn a brand new position at the NFL level. And going against arguably the best NT right now in football is not the way to build a young guys confidence. So yes, I think you would have seen Morris or Satele. Veldheer played pretty well over all tho.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The big plays will continue so long as one of the safeties is not so much a coverage guy (Branch), and the deep safety can’t cover OR tackle (Huff). The key is going to be giving them up much less often than last year (at least two or three 40+ yard plays a game), and the ability to be resilient on offense by sustaining drives and keeping the defense off the field more.
I think the Raiders have a potentially very good defense, but any defense is going to get burned eventually if they’re on the field for 75% of the game.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
ARM, Wecome to being a RAIDER FAN! We live for this!
August 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago. Continuing a 29-83 trend.
No need to call someone names for being concerned about this.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
cable is a fool, jlh looks lost ot there as does huff both need to be cut more so huff cause of his draft pick and salary for a player who plays like he came in undrafted, doesnt know how to tackle, and when he does acts like a fn rookie, dancing and celebrating.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Len, honestly, one or two good plugs for the O-line, need V on left side, Morrison RT side, buy time for play to develope, open lines for RB’s, we aren’t anywhere close, Cable doesn’t see this?
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I’m not following.
Velhdeer on the line will upgrade a position… LT, RT, C.
Morrison?
Carlisle and Satele, imo, are the weakest links, but the OT’s need to step their game up as well.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Editorial aside: OK, then how come through at least 90 percent of his coaching tenure with the Raiders, Cable has opened press briefings with the statement, “Quick injury update . . . ”
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Cuz now its a hinderance when b4 it was an excuse…
August 30th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Veldheer did indeed look surprisingly good at C, so I guess we’ll see if he can sustain that. I don’t see any way he can be worse than Satele or Morris.
I think the Raiders offensive line is one LT away from being passable. They already have some good young pieces in place (Veldheer at C and Campbell in the waiting in the wings at RG), and veteran presence (Gallery and, to a lesser extent, Walker). Pick up Gaither, Matt Light, Marcus McNeil, anyone who can play consistently at LT, and all of a sudden the line doesn’t look so bad. Perfect? Maybe not, but passable with the potential to grow.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
The thing that still bothers me about DHB is he is still catching the ball with his arms/torso and not his hands.
He made some nice plays in that first drive and early on but he didn’t make any of those catches with his hands.
That’s not good technique….
August 30th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
It is VERY difficult to learn a brand new position at the NFL level. And going against arguably the best NT right now in football is not the way to build a young guys confidence. So yes, I think you would have seen Morris or Satele. Veldheer played pretty well over all tho.
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Division III player, new position…acknowledged.
The kicker is that this “handicap” has not appeared to phase this particular young mans confidence.
He just seems to rise to every challenge…and get better.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
The way I see it, if DHB can do 3-5 catches and 50 or so yards per game on a consistent basis, the receiving corps will be dramatically improved from a year ago.
While I still think it would be nice to have a sure-handed possession receiver in the mix, the Raiders are undoubtedly better at the position this season. Hopefully they can see some early success and build on it.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Len, Morrison to RT, more experience in league, I know they’re all young, he holds his own in most sit’s, V can learn on the job, smart kid, and a Raider Monster to move, IMHO
August 30th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
KK –
The Titans, Rams and even the Warnerless Cards will try / need to run. Is the run D a concern? Sure, until they prove otherwise but there has been improvement. Last year guys were getting 4, 6 and 8 yards over and over.
In Chicago half the yards came on 1 big run. It happens.
The D needs to improve but they dominated Chicago, did well at Dallas and allowed 13 pts with SF before the 4th stringers got trampled.
The 49ers were given TWO 4th down gifts that put them in the red zone and got held to FGs. The 9ers had back-to-back 1 yard plays stuffed on one drive. All with Seymour, Aso and CJ out of the game.
It’s not all sunshine but hey Bennett is averaging 5 yards a carry and peeps aren’t saying he’ll run over the Titans.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago. Continuing a 29-83 trend.
No need to call someone names for being concerned about this.
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To site preseason games as a continuation of an arbitrary trend is kind of ridiculous, don’t you think? In preseason you are going to try all kinds of things you would never do in the regular season. Having DE Quentin Groves as a MLB, or DL Alex Daniels as a FB for instance. Now, Groves may be an excellent ILB and Daniels an ass beating FB, but let’s be honest here, they are trying crazy stuff they would never try in the regular season.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Who’s Morrison?
August 30th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Cable’s review of Jared Veldheer, in his first start as a center in the NFL:“I thought pretty good. There are two plays I would like to have back. He probably would do. But I thought overall he did a fine job and I think for a guy going in playing against a 3-4, being covered every snap like that, you would have to say it was probably a little better than expected.”
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The kid is a genius. 2 plays in the whole game that were obvious mistakes by the kid, who’s never started at Center before, against arguably the best linebacker in the game, and a defense that’s blitzing and using stunts and delays all game.
I think he did a damn good job. How much do you think he learned from that experience? And with his football acumen how much do you think he will grow from that the next time he starts?
In my opinion he’s already almost as good as Satele and Satele’s a veteran and this kid’s a rookie.
And some of you wanna say that Satele doesn’t suck. Get him and Carlisle outta here asap.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Cable may have said tackling was the problem but frankly T Scott was to blame on 2 of the big runs.
9er guards got out and blocked Rolando and T. Scott failed to read properly and fill.
Our D line got handled alot by the 9ers O line beef. PLUS the 9ers held them like they were babies on every single play.
Refs sucked a big fat stinkin’ big foot wang per usual.
Granted you’re not going to get the best refs in rpe and with losing records but sheeesh. Awful…
August 30th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Theycall, it also opens up the field to passes and running, they have to split someone, or two, to cover this threat, I’m sure that is in our scheme this year, holding it back, PRE don’t count!
August 30th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
128. Pre season stats and W-L means nothing.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago. It’s ridiculous to try to play that off as only “pre-season”
August 30th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Sorry, HENDERSON, lefty typer here, lol
August 30th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
130. Agreed. Satele gets our QBs killed and more often than not fails to get to 2nd level defenders to block.
Terrible.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
And some of you wanna say that Satele doesn’t suck. Get him and Carlisle outta here asap
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Yep! We are looking for building blocks.
Not stumbling blocks.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
134. Its ridiculous to think pre season with scrubs making most of the stats means a much of anything but the fact Oaklands run D has sucked makes it alarming to some.
Rolando looks hesitant and took some bad angles but it is pre….
August 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
137. Agreed.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Ugh, wish more people knew who owns Nat Geo, History channel and Discovery. Republican mis information and propaganda.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago. It’s ridiculous to try to play that off as only “pre-season”
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Nostradamus End of The World 2012,
Don’t you think that it’s only fair to mention that in both of these games, Richard Seymour didn’t play?
August 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Raiders gave up 165 yds on the ground against SF, and 170 against Chicago. It’s ridiculous to try to play that off as only “pre-season”
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what are you talking about? In the chicago game the starters played maybe 8 minutes. And then you have mixes and mashes of different players playing together, a lot of times, for the lst time ever. Don’t you think that matters? sheesh.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
134. Its ridiculous to think pre season with scrubs making most of the stats means a much of anything but the fact Oaklands run D has sucked makes it alarming to some.
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It’s ridiculous to say all those gashes came against scrubs.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
O-line is the problem as long as they arent top nothc we wont be sh@#t….everyting else is fine….o-line needs to be TOP NOTCH… i odnt care waht anybody says the o-line is the most importnat part of a team….we have a QB we have WRS( All t they need ti keep working) We have the D defiantly we need protection up front
August 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
V should start at left tackle and BC should start at guard. Henderson should be moved to right tackle.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I was in here late last week saying how ridiculous it was for Jerry and others to speculate about Gradkowski losing the No. 2 QB spot to Boller and possibly even getting cut. I also said that not only is Grads head and shoulders above Boller, but that I’m not sure he’s not better than Campbell. I was pretty much mocked for suggesting that Gradkowski might be better than Campbell.
I wonder if people still feel the same after the ridiculous display Gradkowski put on vs. the 49ers? Guy looked like Drew Brees at his best out there.
I’m not hating on Campbell. He’s way better than JaMarcus or anyone else we’ve had at QB since Gannon. I’m just really intrigued by what Gradkowski has done since he got here.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Veldheer isn’t an improvement at LT right now. He IS an improvement at C. I’d rather see him where he can make the most difference.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I’m with COW on the Oline I think people are overreacting to the Injury to Campbell. 5 sacks in the 3 preaseason games is outstanding considering what we’ve shown in the past. So I’m encouraged if we can get even better.
I think I read in here yesterday that Campbell was done for the starter and maybe more. Well that was greatly exagerated. And if MBush can go for the starter we’re in great shape.
Someone asked about Houston since the preseason opener well if you notice he’s getting doubled. That wont happen once Seymour returns.
The concern for McClain in the middle is way to hasty, the guy has played 3 preseason games let him at least get in 3 regular season games will ya’. God this instant society is crazy. These ids need to catch up to the speed of the game at this level. The niners came out and it was obvious they gameplanned us. And victimized the rokie a bit and he still had 7 tackles. That is a very tough position to learn and be great at. Give him at least one season to do so. He will lead this team in tackles by far but he wont hit his peak for maybe 3 years.
If we suuffer no further injuries we’llhave a good chance to beat the Titans. CJ can have 125 yards and we’ll still win we just can’t let him go crazy. MBush has to offset that with 115 himself and Campbell will outplay VY. if we keep CJ under 125 we’ll win……….period
August 30th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
we also need to inprove our secondary tackling
August 30th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Nnam, I’ve got DISH, all those and more, HD, 400 channels? $100.00 per month, with NFL and 6 BSPN, but does not have a NFL package yet, called today. Service is excellent!
August 30th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Bottom of the league in Rush Defense for years. And they come out in pre-season and get Gashed in 2 out of 3 games.
C’mon, don’t be ridiculous.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Actually I thought Gallery looked worse than Carlisle in that game (and subsequent late night DVR re-views while not particularly sober). Those heavy set formations were an abomination too. One time Henderson went to the right side and whiffed everything for a blown up play. Next Langston went to the left side and he and the RB whiffed the blitzing LeBoy for a disastrous sack.
Not good…
August 30th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
We should of whent 8-8 last year thats what i predicted thats what im predicting this year
August 30th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
ChrisNY, Grads is the punishing block for opposing D-lines since he got here, you can’t see that? Good to see ya back here thou!
August 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
I’d like to see Mitchell and Branch playing safety together. I would use Huff as a nickle back in third and long situations or as a backup corner.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Chris in NY
That was a preseason game and he played sensational, but Campbell has been here for 4 months grads is in his second season. If you think he’s better than Campbell after seeing that first drive then your welcome to your opinion. But I don’t share it, Campbell is a hell of a QB the Skins made a huge mistake letting him go. Over the next few years you’ll see what I mean. Grads is a great backup much better than most. You start him and teams start gameplanning him and you’ll see why I say he’s abackup.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
#155 – Agreed.
Branch at FS and MM34 at SS would be monstrous. People would get hurt.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Yea huff should only play credicule passing downs..y did he gt drafed so high anyways??
August 30th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Ganja, -2 spelling
August 30th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
credicule
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Damn GANJApassion…I’m not the grammar police, but WTF is THAT!
I don’t want to have to buy Rosetta Stone.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I hear you 860Todd,
But, as evidenced by Campbell, it seems like all our QBs better be poised to take a beating behind this o-line. Not that they’re terrible all the time, but often enough to get our QBs crushed this season.
I don’t know why Gradkowski gets singled out as not being able to play long-term though. I don’t think he missed a play in games he was in last year until the one play when he injured both knees. That could happen to any player at any time. Look at Tom Brady in the season opener a couple years back.
Gradkowski is small, but he actually bigger than Brees, Jeff Garcia and Mike Vick. No one is saying those guys are/were too small to play.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
No one is saying those guys are/were too small to play
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Not now anyway. If Grads gets an opportunity because Campbell goes down, He’ll just have to produce enough to make on to the list you’ve made.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I don’t know PriestJ,
Gradkowski was pretty much getting better every week in his 4 starts last year and into Saturday’s game. Whether it’s here or somewhere else in the near future, if the kid gets a shot he’s going to break out. Like I said, I’m not down on Campbell or anything, I’m just not sure which guy is better.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Chris, Not to be disagreeable but people said Garcia was too small to play for most of his career. Too short I believe was the knock….
August 30th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Unless our line play get MUCH better they will both see time. Maybe even Mr Prejean will get a shot.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Fargas cut from Broncos. Guess there was no gas left in the tank. Too bad as he’s a good guy & gave us his all.
I’d say there are other on our current team like DMac that should give us their all but in retrospect, maybe that’s all he has.
I remain unimpressed with DMac’s non-performance. I don’t hold the losses as a result of missed blitzers but he did nothing on the other running plays. He proved the only way for him to make yards was to catch the ball & run straight ahead. So, make him a WR and let’s just move on. Bennett should be the #2RB.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Grads couldn’t sniff Brees’s jock, I like him a lot as a backup because that’s what he does come in for a game or two and give us a lift. Brees is one of the most prolific passers the game has ever seen. Grads size isn’t what bothers me it’s his arm strength combined with his size. You can win with him no doubt I’m not saying he’s a bad QB I think he’s a good one.
I just don’t see him as a great QB one who’s capable of being dominant over 8-10 years. He might even give you 2 years of very good play. But you’ll always be looking to replace him. The same way it was with Garcia great as a stop gap for a couple of years or so. But no real long term answer.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
JLofty,
You’re right. I guess what I meant is, in the case of Brees and Garcia, they played at a Pro Bowl level and led their teams to the playoffs on a fairly regular basis despite their size.
To me, playing QB in the NFL is about:
1) Decision-making
2) Accuracy
3) Poise
4) Leadership
5) Mobility
6) Arm strength
7) Size
I think Gradkowski has enough of the first 5 to more than make up for what he lacks in the last 2.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
McFumble would make a good WR and we could use some playmaking in that regard.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Let DMac alternate with DHB on downs and have them run deep posts on every play. By half time the DB would be dead tired. Should open up the long bomb. Just a strategy.
August 30th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I think Huff has looked really good for the most part since the start of last season. I don’t blame him for the big run vs. the Bears. It’s preseason folks. And he tried to put a good hit on Gore in the game the other night but Gore was held up because he bounced off another player as he was going down. Huff should’ve wrapped up, but he’s not the first defensive player to try to make that kind of hit and fail. Huff has been making a lot timely pass breakups this preseason and all of last year. I think he’s arrived. Our secondary is stacked right now.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Chris, he doesn’t have our O-line, sad to say, he has to scramble to survive, no lanes are being opened, our QB’s are being beaten to death. The only thing I can say about JR, is he didn’t get hurt, was too numb from the purple stuff, but lived to throw again, our QB’s have a LONG season ahead of them in this situation.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
And once again, Routt looks great when he’s covering on the outside. His struggles come when he’s covering slot WRs. He’d be a quality No. 2 CB for any team in the league. Problem is, I say the same about Chris Johnson. And W. McFadden looks like a player as well.
Then look at the safeties and you’ve got Huff, Branch, Mitchell and even Eugene is quality for a No. 4 guy and I think Jerome Boyd has looked big, fast and aggressive this preseason. Plus the rookie from Michigan looks solid too.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
The NFL needs to give back to the fans more then the players and they need to join the 21st century.
Rookies get paid too much. Fix it.
Ex games are a ripoff and they want full price.
Have two glorified scrimmages. And make them more fan friendly. Times are real hard right now and stadiums are not filling up. Let your fans know you realize it and appreciate it before you lose a team or four.
Charge less money and dont focus on season ticket buyers. Let joesix pack feel like a big shot for a day. We cant all be crockett & Tubbs with season tickets in the front row.
Maybe hold the ex games in smaller stadiums near the home city where fans can get a better vibe.
Then add another game if you must, Make it a “4 year experiment”. We all know its all about money and expanding the fan base globally, starting with Europe.
Most fans want good football not watered down football and adding two more games is like adding two more teams.
Hold the “ex scrimmage games” in Moscow and Mexico and London if you must but the reg season is far too important for you to WWF it.
I have not even talked about cable TV. I dont have an ivy league diploma but I bet if you charged,,,,, oh say ten bucks a game you would make gazillions.
Sure stadium sales would fall but you rip us off on those anyway. Cant tailgate, ten bucks a beer, 10 bucks for a salmonella hotdog, thirty bucks to park, constant ten dollar an hour stadium security ( not the good security, the you are a criminal and we know it stuff so make your move security). You never know when your children wil be puked on, screamed at, cursed at, etc. Great job on the security
Depression is coming, stop being so dam greedy, drop ticket prices, improve the stadium experiance, Let us watch at home for ten bucks and get a control on player wages
August 30th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Plunk, you nailed it on the head!
August 30th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Yeah, o-line is the missing link right now. Can’t believe they’re not considering bringing in Mawae. I’d start Bruce Campbell at RG from Day 1 as well.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Plunk, People wanted change, you got it, live with it.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Things don’t look so rosy when opposing coaches start game-planning you.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Kell, Bay Game,of course they will in Pre, we spank them when it counts, AD 101.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Add one stud LT, either through a trade, FA, or the draft, and the offensive line will start looking a lot better.
If the Raiders don’t trade for Gaither, they can get him in FA next year (assuming a new CBA is reached).
If the Raiders decide to look for a tackle through the draft in 2011, they should also look to acquire Matt Light from the Patriots as a solid veteran presence and a more than suitable stopgap option while the rookie learns how to play in the NFL.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Gaither – Gallery – Veldheer – Walker/Campbell – Henderson
or…
Light – Gallery – Veldheer – Campbell – Henderson/rookie
August 30th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
They, V could be our LT, I’m kinda liken it.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Mario Henderson was disappointing. I’d rather see Veldheer competing there rather than Center. I’d prefer to have an experienced Center and/or one who has played there before.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Mario Henderson was disappointing. I’d rather see Veldheer competing there rather than Center. I’d prefer to have an experienced Center and/or one who has played there before.
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Even if it’s a guy who doesn’t play well (Satele)? Even if Veldheer plays better? Can’t say I agree.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
That’s not to say I don’t think Veldheer could ever be an LT in the league. But if he plays well at center and the other guys on the roster are liabilities, he should play center this season. If his performance improves and he gets a firm grasp of the center position, I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t stay there. Especially because it could give the Raiders a unique advantage having the biggest center in the league.
Of course, all this is assuming he continues to improve at the position.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I don’t think Veldheer played better than Satele, but those kind of assessments are above my paygrade.
But, It seemed J Campbell has been able to step up into the pocket when Satele was in there the first 2 games.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
That is a whole lotta speculation Jerry. Might as well stick to the facts. The whole Al redirected the coach behind the scenes is certain to be drama-inducing, but that’s about it. I want facts, and analysis, not TMZ crap.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Hey Uncle Al, you’re still a dick. Get with 21st century media relations would ya…oh, never mind.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
But, It seemed J Campbell has been able to step up into the pocket when Satele was in there the first 2 games.
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There wasn’t a pocket in the first two games. Campbell did well to escape the pressure, but there wasn’t the defined pocket that you see with legitimate NFL offensive lines. Veldheer did better at preserving the pocket than Satele did, but the protection still broke down at the tackle positions.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
What stumps me is Cable is an O-line Coach, he doesn’t have a clue? When is someone upstairs going to see this? Maybe Cable needs AD direction, this is really getting bad again.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
860,
Cable can’t play. When your starting center is in danger of losing his job to a rookie tackle from a Division 3 school and you’re grooming your other rookie (who was also a tackle) to take over for your starting right guard and that won’t even fix he whole problem, you know you’re in trouble.
It’s a lack of talent, pure and simple. We’ve neglected the o-line for too long and the bill’s come due.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
It’s a lack of talent, pure and simple. We’ve neglected the o-line for too long and the bill’s come due.
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Yep. It remains to be seen whether it’s an issue of the owner saying “make the guys I gave you good”, or whether it’s Cable saying “I can make the guys I have good”. Either way, it’s a questionable tactic when the QB is back there getting hurt.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Jerry’s Dramatics and sensationalism is like cake and ice cream to a fat kidd in here. These guy’s eat it up everytime.
KK very few teams gameplan in the preseason like the niners did most stay with vanilla schemes because it allows the coaches to better evaluate your talent it’snt as much about winning as it getting the roster set. Brett Farve had just got off the bus and the sent the house at him……lol what kind of team does somethimg like that?
August 30th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I don’t think Veldheer played better than Satele, but those kind of assessments are above my paygrade.
But, It seemed J Campbell has been able to step up into the pocket when Satele was in there the first 2 games.
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Disagree,
Go back and look at the game… Its been a long time since we had anything that resembles a pocket….
Satele gets rag dolled on several accounts….
Veldheer stone walled….
Big diff…
August 30th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Brett Farave just got off the bus and the niners sent the house at him………..that is weak IMO because very few teams expect that kind of aggression.
They blitzed us up the middle like 7 times sending 2 Lb’s and safties. What the hell are they trying to prove. In the 1st two games we sent the front4 until the niners started with these aggressive blitzes then we started to reciprocate. But no one gameplans in the preseason accept the niners I guess and we still hit them for 21 points.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Brett Farave just got off the bus and the niners sent the house at him………..that is weak IMO because very few teams expect that kind of aggression.
They blitzed us up the middle like 7 times sending 2 Lb’s and safties. What the hell are they trying to prove. In the 1st two games we sent the front4 until the niners started with these aggressive blitzes then we started to reciprocate. But no one gameplans in the preseason accept the niners I guess and we still hit them for 21 points.
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Think they were P!ssed we marched like sodiers on the first drive of the game…singletary gets angry, and switches to plan B. full on Blitzkrieg….
August 30th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Thec07
Man what games are you looking at Campbell had good protection in those first two games as well the first drive vs the niners. Either you don’t know what yu’re looking at or you’re making up stuff. We’ve only given up 5 sacks 2 up the middle and Veldheer didn’t stonewall anybody he played OK for his first start. He did a decent job nothing more.
August 30th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Seahawks released receiver Kole Heckendorf.
go get’em AL!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
The first 2 games the tackles pushed their guys out wide and Campbell forward.
Satele did get beat on that one sack against Chicago.
But noway somebody’s going to tell me a DivIII guy whose never played Center before in his life is the answer.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Sacks are a misleading stat when you’re giving up a lot of hurries. The Raider offensive line has given up a LOT of QB hurries, especially from the tackle positions.
Veldheer showed pass-blocking ability on par with Satele at the very least, but I was most impressed with how much better the running game looked with him at center.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Everybody Game Plans for Pre-Season game #3.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Thec07
Man what games are you looking at Campbell had good protection in those first two games as well the first drive vs the niners. Either you don’t know what yu’re looking at or you’re making up stuff. We’ve only given up 5 sacks 2 up the middle and Veldheer didn’t stonewall anybody he played OK for his first start. He did a decent job nothing more.
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Preist, Never said we didnt play well the first 2 games. IMO Veldheer looked better than satele on run plays and pass protection, andits not even close.
The pocket looked better with Veldheer vs satele, not even close….
Veldheer didnt stonwall rushes up front, please….
How many guys came up the middle when campbell or grads dropped back to pass???????
August 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
But noway somebody’s going to tell me a DivIII guy whose never played Center before in his life is the answer.
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Who says he can’t be? Because he’s from a DivIII school that precludes him from making an impact?
If he’s playing on par with the current starters in his first start ever at the position, does that not warrant seeing more of what he can do?
August 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Veldheer showed pass-blocking ability on par with Satele at the very least, but I was most impressed with how much better the running game looked with him at center.
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What running game. It sure wasn’t Bush or McFadden.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
The running game looked worse with him at C what the hell are you guy’ss looking at? Look at the rushing stats. We got no push only n the left side.
This is no more than the Veldheer fan club in rare form.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Thec07
what are you looking at the MLB Willis blitz right up the middle 4 times for TFL on running plays and pass plays…………good you have a selectivbe memory..lol this is crazy!!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
What running game. It sure wasn’t Bush or McFadden.
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Well, when have you ever seen McFadden run through tackles in the first place?
Bush looked much better on inside runs before he left with the thumb injury.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
A Div III Tackle is going to come out and lead the Raider O-line????? never played Center before?????
We may not feel comfortable with Satele, but get real.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
The running game looked worse with him at C what the hell are you guy’ss looking at? Look at the rushing stats. We got no push only n the left side.
This is no more than the Veldheer fan club in rare form.
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You can call it what you want, go check thetime campbell and grads had to throw, he pocket looked like a real pocket.Period….
I hope satele does come back as he is servicable at C, then we can move veldheer to somewhere else, but let him back up satele…
Not a fan of anyone player, just want us to win….
August 30th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Bush carried 7 times for 23 yds.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Not a fan of anyone player, just want us to win….
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This is what it’s about. If Satele can’t hack it (which he hasn’t been able to thus far) and Veldheer looks like his equal in his first start at that position, let the kid play. See what he can do. If he improves, keep him there.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Denver cuts Fargus
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/08/30/broncos.fargas.ap/index.html
August 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Thank you TEACH, been my read for so long, tired of repeating it, no-one seems to listen, Ug!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
You guy’s are making me rummy with this Veldheer worship!! get a hold of yourselves……..please!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Thec07
what are you looking at the MLB Willis blitz right up the middle 4 times for TFL on running plays and pass plays…………good you have a selectivbe memory..lol this is crazy!!
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dude relax its not that seriouss. You are right from a stats perspective the run game was worse than the last 2 games however, the niners were doing some exotic stuff and throwing the kitchen sink at the youngster. Would satele have fared any better????
August 30th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
You guy’s are making me rummy with this Veldheer worship!! get a hold of yourselves……..please!
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Are you sure you’re not rummy already? Because it isn’t Veldheer worship. It’s about seeing if a rookie can play at a position that has been less than stellar for the Raiders in the past. If IN HIS FIRST START, he looks on par with the current starter, then let him play some more. There’s one more preseason game, so the time is now.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
You damn right he would’ve he’s seen it all before that’s what I’m trying to tell you guy’s there is no way this kid can outplay a vet at that position right now. The vet would have to be terrible and Satele is a good solid C even if YOU GUY”S can’t see it.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
You guy’s are making me rummy with this Veldheer worship!! get a hold of yourselves……..please!
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Not worshipping the guy, I just want to see us put the best 5 linemen on the field…thats all, put the guys on the field that will provide the best pass protection, and run blocking….
Like i said i like satele to come back, and start, outside of the one major gaffe he looked servicable…
We can move Veldheer to another spot on the oline.
However the trade off is Veldheer looked better in pass protection than satele not equal…
August 30th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
You damn right he would’ve he’s seen it all before that’s what I’m trying to tell you guy’s there is no way this kid can outplay a vet at that position right now. The vet would have to be terrible and Satele is a good solid C even if YOU GUY”S can’t see it.
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Relax man, you are about to blow a gasket….
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
It is worship when you can’t see the obvious due to veneration of someone you prefer.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
I thought the pass protection Saturday was worse than any of the other games.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Priest, question what would you do with Veldheer?
August 30th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
It is worship when you can’t see the obvious due to veneration of someone you prefer.
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Priesttj, you of all people shouldn’t go there, ok?
August 30th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Damn man Veldheer veldheer veldheer he’s a good player but YOU GUY’s need to relax. Let him play and time will tell all.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
It is worship when you can’t see the obvious due to veneration of someone you prefer.
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Do you even read comments before you answer????
I really dont have a pref per sey…I would prefer we put the best 5 guys on the field….
Satele can stay at C, and we move Veldheer somewhere else…satele is servicable at C, and we can move Veldheer somewhere else… so how is that having a perefernce…typed for the thrid time….
August 30th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Damn man Veldheer veldheer veldheer he’s a good player but YOU GUY’s need to relax. Let him play and time will tell all.
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Preist, I am relaxed, not trying to argue with you or be disrespectful however, could you just answer a question, what would you do with veldheer?
August 30th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
I would love to have Veldheer continue to learn and grow at one spot preferably LT I think he has a great future there. I’m nt crazy about what I saw from him at C. This is the preseason in two weeks his head would be spinning this is a very tough league. Give him some time and we may have the OT we’ve been looking for if Mario can’t get right.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Relax man, you are about to blow a gasket….
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Word. Another instance of posters here acting like they’re the players’ girlfriends.
Satele is a big boy. If he’s the answer at center he’ll make it clear. So far he hasn’t shown anything to establish himself as such. If he had, the coaching staff wouldn’t bother with trying Veldheer out at center.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Preist, I know we dont see eye to eye all the time however, I do have respect for your football acumen…
August 30th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
That said, night to all!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
228. Word life.
I wonder if ANYONE thinks Oakland would look to replace their starting center 3/4 of the way thru pre season if they thought Satele was the man?
I know Velds getting reps to serve as a back up, but anyone who’s seen Satele get our QBs killed knows that if this rookie from podunk no where can do it, we’ll let gladly let him.
Go Veld!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
It’s OK Thec07 I have respect for yours as well but I just try to give you the best of what I know. That’s all it’s all good….
August 30th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
I thought the pass protection Saturday was worse than any of the other games.
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It was but 9ers are very good…
August 30th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Campbell & Veldheer need to play. Period!
If we had a good or solid OL, I would say let the young guys develop, but our OL is killing our QBs. We lost 2 QBs due to injuries last season, and they almost killed Campbell last game, so we need to play the young guys. It can’t be worse than Cooper, Walker, and Satele.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
I don’t think people here love/ worship Campbell and Veldheer as much as they hate having Satele and Cooper start for us.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
And Condo STAYS!?!?!
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Again I would say look at what a lack of a quality long snapper did for Chicago
August 30th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Veldheer playing Center speaks about the weakness of Satele, AND a quality Backup. Looks like the Raiders have neither.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
THIS is classic:
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
It is worship when you can’t see the obvious due to veneration of someone you prefer.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
-We all agree that one of our weaknesses last season was the OL among other things like QB, WR, DL, LB, play calling, etc….
-we have the same OL, but we replaced Green with Walker at RT and that is suppose to fix things?!?!
We need a new C, RG, RT, and maybe a LT (if Mario is not consistent). The young guys need to play and develop at the same time. We don’t have the luxury of time to develop the young guys. Our OL is SORRY! IMO
August 30th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Ricky Brown should be cut over #48….
In re-watching the first 3 games, that kid was EVERYWHERE, run support, breaking up passes..
August 30th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Any word on who the 5th player released is?
August 30th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Also I would keep Nick Miller over JLH
Why was Watkins in at money time..?
August 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Goethel has indeed looked solid. He was one hell of a player in college. I liked that pick a lot in the 6th round. He has a ton of potential, and will contribute right away on special teams. I’d rather have him around than Ricky Brown as well.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
The answer to # 7 post (Shark Catcher) is 130 yards. We usually don’t beat teams that run for big yardage. Hold Chris Johnson to 130 or fewer, we can win! McFadden better show something Thursday vs. Seattle. We need a running game in Tennessee. I’m praying for a quick recovery for my favorite RB, Michael Bush.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The Big BAD Wolf at FS is killing the run D…
He’ll HUFF, and puff,
and BLOW a big play saving tackle.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I hope we find a way to keep Bennett
D-MAC will go down AGAIN and even though he has lost a step..still a good back between the tackles..
August 30th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
JLH has got to be one of the dumbest players on the squad. How many times is he going to field punts at the 4yd line.
Every year……
August 30th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
JLH is still hearing steps……
He will NEVER recover, too bad.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Nick Miller can still make the team…JLH hasm’t solidified the punt returns yet…though Figurs has done well…so they may see if Miller can be put on the practice squad.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Man, Veldheer was mauling on that first drive. Haven’t seen a Raiders center look like that since Grove.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Figurs best return on Saturday ended w/ him putting the ball onthe turf…isn’t inspiring confidence.
JLH doesn’t seem like the same kid from 2 yrs ago on punt return.
Why can’t we find a return guy?
August 30th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
On the first drive it actually looks like a legitimate pocket.
I still say the Raiders are one stud LT away from having a passable, if not stellar offensive line.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
THINK LIKE A COACH.
Guys are getting all riled about moving linemen everywhere. Let me explain why Val is seeing time at C.
Val & Campbell are NOT ready – yet. Maybe soon, maybe a Mario Henderson style year of development. But the coaches know two things:
1) The starting Center has never gone 16 games.
2) The back-up Morris is not a long-term answer.
So, what do you do coach? Well, you know there is virtualy no way Val can beat out Henderson or Walker THIS YEAR. However, Val could be better than Morris this year.
So you train Val at Center between your 2 most experienced guys for the day if / when Satele gets hurt. You train Campbell your 4th-5th best tackle to be your best back-up RG. If BC beats out Carlisle sometime between now and next season, you’re golden.
The way you guys lock in on these guys college positions would mean Morris is our only back-up C or G on the roster. Walker proved how silly that thinking is at LG last year.
Val and especialy BC aren’t in our top 5 yet but if either of them is better than Morris 7 Barnes I guarantee they’ll get a start this year. Injury-free season on OL? Please.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
If you watch Veldheer last week against Peppers,
he got owned a couple of times, but he did hold his own..not bad for the Div 3 kid..also was downfield alot looking for someone to hit… gotta love the effort
August 30th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Did anyone see that Cornell Green is starting in Buffalo? was watching to see CJ Spiller…1st series he gets blown up for a sack and I think a penalty…
LMAO good riddance
August 30th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Opening the Season with a Center who has never played there before sounds…….???
Not the smart thing to do.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Preach on COW
August 30th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Hey Mr Goethel quit bragging up you kid on the blogs
August 30th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Opening the season with Samson Satele sounds……???
Same old sh*t. Tired of seeing him get ragdolled by defenders.
If Veldheer shows that he can do the job just as well as Satele can, then he should play. That’s the bottom line.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Raider_83 and Assassin are blog ID’s for Mr and Mrs Goethel
August 30th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Not a Goethel fan, Lefty? Care to elaborate?
August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
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It’s not worship to say that Gruden knows more about today’s game than Al Davis. It’s a fact.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I’m a fan of players who can play..and Goethel can play.
Ricky Brown is S/T at best
Watch the games
August 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Not yet
He played 2 minutes on goal line in the 4th qtr
Not ready to anoint him as the second coming yet!
Need to see more
August 30th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
# BigLefty Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Not yet
He played 2 minutes on goal line in the 4th qtr
Not ready to anoint him as the second coming yet!
Need to see more
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Not sure what you’re talking about. He played a lot more than that through the three preseason games..? Made a bunch of tackles. Showed good speed and instincts.
Who said anything about the second coming? He was a good pick for a 6th rounder.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I agree…Goethel looks like one of the few guys who is reaching inside himself and trying to be his best when he is given an oppportunity.
The guy is out there and always on the ball and doing good things.
He is rising to the occasion…something missing around here, right JLH, DMC, Figurs, Eugene, Cantgetwright?
August 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
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It’s not worship to say that Gruden knows more about today’s game than Al Davis. It’s a fact.
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It’s also pretty g@y to still be tied to Gruden and Kiffen if you are a real Raider fan.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
I think Figurs is Hue’s guy…hope not
He may look good in practice, but hasn’t done much against the two’s and three’s
Hope to see alot of Ford on Thursday
August 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Richochet Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Eugene really mis-timed his jump on that 2pt convert.
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Bravo..if you didn’t state that, no one would have figured it out..
I love it when someone has a firm grasp of the obvious.
Way to go, MR..
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Dickochet…get over the fact that I found MR’s impersonation of you funny Ok?
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Actually, mental midget, what was funny, and pathetic is that you came on, stated you had JUST READ ALL OF THE POSTS, (thousands) and then copied MR’s silly dopey takes.
The fact that it was the typical MR juvenile takes wasn’t it, was more that you, MR, stupidly still believed they were witty, or clever, when in fact they’re borderline retarded.
Hey, I get it..you’re sensitive.
that’s what happens living at home with mom, with no job, no girl, no life.
Oh well…sucks to be you
August 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
It’s a shame Ford fell so far behind, apparently he was looking good in practices. Now he seems a little overwhelmed. Hopefully they give him a big role in the last preseason game and try to get him involved.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
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It’s not worship to say that Gruden knows more about today’s game than Al Davis. It’s a fact.
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It’s also pretty g@y to still be tied to Gruden and Kiffen if you are a real Raider fan.
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Don’t you remember when you used to do this with other handles, MR?
You got it from SeyGlenDorks book of “Cross Posting for Dummies”.
You actually think if you argue with yourself, and actually call yourself names, some will figure that “It can’t be him”..but..you stupidly take the bait whenever someone tosses it out.
Didn’t you state how “MR is one of the better posters” here? Something on that line? Gushing over “MR”..how you actually stated “I always enjoy reading you whenever I come on’?? LMAO…wasn’t that you?
And then when someone calls you on being MR, you then start an argument with yourself?
Do..you..uh..think you fooled anyone?
do you think SeyOakDeboJustWin does?
Just curious, mama’s boy.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
I need to see more means
1 qtr against the mighty Dan Lefvour of Chi town and 1qtr against the always tough Stephen McGee from Dallas doesn’t get me all warm an fuzzy
Don’t get your panties in a wad Assassin
I always like to let tigers earn their stripes
August 30th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
It’s a shame Ford fell so far behind, apparently he was looking good in practices. Now he seems a little overwhelmed. Hopefully they give him a big role in the last preseason game and try to get him involved.
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Good post Bro…. took the typing right from my fingers….
August 30th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Look people, If you were Niners fans, (which it appears that some of you secretly are), would you have been happy with how the Niners played?
Giving up 3 td’s. One on the opening drive. The other two to the backup QB. Missed field goals. More false start and offsides penalties than the Raiders.
Singletary sure wasn’t happy. He said that he contemplated sending the first team units back out there in the 4th quarter because of how poorly they played.
It’s preseason, and we have some stuff to clean up.
But at this point if you’ve been following the other teams around the league, there are a lot of teams picked to go deep into the playoffs that look A LOT worse than we do right now.
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Are you still crying about the game?
What happened?
Some Niner fans at recess give you flack?
Just a preseason game, foolish boy.
You sound like a sorry whining child, going from post to post to post, stating “They didn’t look that good..they didn’t…THEY DIDDDDNNN’T”
“We had people sitting too..we did…WE DID!!!!”
You know..you were as emotional last year, when you followed me from thread to thread saying “who’s your team? Why won’t you tell me?” “Who’s your team? Huh? Who?”
You only asked me 30-40 times….sounding as flustered as you do now.
Relax, young lady…just preseason.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
With that I am out….
Thanks for the words COW….
August 30th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
meow meow meow
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yawn
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same crap….over and over again
August 30th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Richochet…you are just an easy parody…and MR nailed you.
To quote a famous man “Get over it!”
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
August 30th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Grads couldn’t sniff Brees’s jock, I like him a lot as a backup because that’s what he does come in for a game or two and give us a lift. Brees is one of the most prolific passers the game has ever seen. Grads size isn’t what bothers me it’s his arm strength combined with his size. You can win with him no doubt I’m not saying he’s a bad QB I think he’s a good one.
I just don’t see him as a great QB one who’s capable of being dominant over 8-10 years. He might even give you 2 years of very good play. But you’ll always be looking to replace him. The same way it was with Garcia great as a stop gap for a couple of years or so. But no real long term answer.
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Gosh..I mean…you wouldn’t be harping on Grad being so inept if it wasn’t for the fact you spent weeks last year, stating “Get rid of Grad. Put back in Russell. Grad can’t carry RUSSELL’S JOCK”..
Remember?
This sound familiar?
priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
You ask some dumb questions Raiderman99 have you ever heard anyone say Russell is not talented?
Ray Charles can see Russell has unlimited talent. It’s just his application and maturity that they question. If you can’t see the obvious talent it wont do you any good for me to tell you.
Russell highly touted, Grads wasn’t even touted he was a small school hope he can. He’s a backup QB in anyones book. Except the geniuses in here.
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How about this one, TJ?
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Grads will make them play Russell again before the year is out. He just can’t get it done at a hig enough level. He has no potential for greatness. Russell has a ton of potential he just needs to realize that.
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You giving Grad props means you have to cop to the fact you are clueless..and stepping up and admitting when you are wrong has never been your strong suit.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
My 53:
QBs: Campbell, Gradkowski, Brennan
RBs: Bush, DMC, Bennett, Cartwright
FB: Reece, Tonga
WRs: Murphy, Schilens, DHB, Ford, N. Miller, JLH
TEs: Miller, Myers
O-line: Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Campbell, Walker, Veldheer, Carlisle, Barnes, Mawae*
D-line: Seymour, Kelly, Shaughnessy, Houston, Bryant, Henderson, Cooper
LBs: Wimbley, Scott, McClain, Howard, Goethel, Brown, Condo, Groves
CBs: Nnamdi, CJ, Routt, McFadden, Ware
S: Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Boyd, Eugene
K: Janikowski
P: Lechler
August 30th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Worth noting that Wimbley, Scott and Groves provide some flexibility since they can play both LB and drop down as pass rush DEs. Marcel Reece is similar in that he can play FB/TE. And Reece is an explosive big man. We need to sneak the ball his way at least 2-3 times per game this year.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Hate to keep picking on ya, TJ, but you just seem to sprout off, almost with no thought process at times.
You are whining about a team sending players?
Huh?
Didn’t you ramble on and on about about Wembley’s FOUR SACKS IN A HALF, but now two sacks, and blitzes surprise you?
Do you ever actually watch this game?
You act like a blitz in a novel idea, that the blitzes the Niners used were totally unconventional, and novel.
They weren’t.
LB lines up, and in front of him is a WIDE HOLE..AND THE LB TOOK IT.
Kind of basic stuff.
You’ll learn.
No, really, I think you will…I think
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# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Jerry’s Dramatics and sensationalism is like cake and ice cream to a fat kidd in here. These guy’s eat it up everytime.
KK very few teams gameplan in the preseason like the niners did most stay with vanilla schemes because it allows the coaches to better evaluate your talent it’snt as much about winning as it getting the roster set. Brett Farve had just got off the bus and the sent the house at him……lol what kind of team does somethimg like that?
August 30th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
How awesome is Janikowski, by the way. 57-yards off that disgraceful dirt infield right down the middle and with room to spare? Are you kidding me?
I’ll still never forget the time he lined up that 64-yarder against the Texans a couple years back and drilled it off the upright about half-way up. Can’t wait to, hopefully, see him hit one from 70 some day.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
NOTHING…same old crap.
Has to believe only 1 person can’t stand him, so everyone is the same person. LOSER!
Get help, or get out….your choice, all good with us (or just me – i’m every poster as the same person…loser)
August 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
· ArmChair GM Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
# Dude Says:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Pre Season means NOTHING! No matter what part or who was playing. The score after 3 quarters of the 9ers game is meaningless.
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Dude you are sadly mistaken.
The FINAL SCORE of a preseason game means nothing. But when you play your starters vs their starters for 3 quarters in a preseason game, it gives coaches and players alot to study, evaluate, and learn from.
It also can give you an overall assessment of the overall strengths and weaknesses of a team, so that the weaknesses don’t carry over into the regular season, but the positives do.
Come on man, even you should know that.
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Leave it to you to miss the point.
You evaluate play, not end results, you fool.
the score at the end of EVERY quarter is meaningless.
Coaches discuss plays, and group and individual effort.
Yeah, the look at the strengths, and work on the weaknesses. Some coaches pass on FG attempts, just to get more work in…BECAUSE IT’S NOT ABOUT THE SCORE.
You’re so sad you are running from post to post saying “Don’t look at the half time score, don’t look at the final score, look at the 3rd quarter score.”
You really don’t get it, do you?
quick..ask me who my team is..for old times sake.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
we need to get past players like JLH, Watkins, Figurs, and the rest.
They aren’t going to suddenly turn into HOF’ers. Maybe the new guys, Ford, Miller, et al could.
If not, draft some more next year…WR’s are a dime a dozen.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Nothing
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Yawn.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Amazing a player in the NFL actually JUMPS up in the air, to catch the ball in his body, instead of using his hands.
As soon as DHB jumped, he took himself out of the play, going straight down.
You learn to catch with your hands in PeeWee football.
Guess DHB missed that day
August 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Maybe Norco Bob can call the Mod’s on the Niner Blog and get you re-instated.
He’s nice that way.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Again, LMFAO..you remember when you did the same thing when I was going at it with SeyOakDork?
Where you followed me, for over two hours, posting over and over to me, where I ignored you, like now, lol…where you were almost begging for attention?
Do you feel as silly now, as you did then?
August 30th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Amazing a player in the NFL actually JUMPS up in the air, to catch the ball in his body, instead of using his hands.
As soon as DHB jumped, he took himself out of the play, going straight down.
You learn to catch with your hands in PeeWee football.
Guess DHB missed that day
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Holy Cow…an actual football comment!
And accurate as well! DHB leaves his feet every catch, whether he has to or not. Effectively negating any momentum or forward progress.
Oh snap, I agreed with Richochet…now I’m Richochet cross-posting.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Again, LMFAO..you remember when you did the same thing when I was going at it with SeyOakDork?
Where you followed me, for over two hours, posting over and over to me, where I ignored you, like now, lol…where you were almost begging for attention?
Do you feel as silly now, as you did then?
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NO I don’t…this blog doesn’t mean as much to me as it does to you obviously.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
More TJ humor to end the night…
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
For some reason. They see some great potential in playing Gradkowski. But I’ll gaurantee you Mr Davis is not ammused. Grads wont get away with another half that looks anything like that. he’ll be pulling splinters out of his rear for the next 10 years.
I’ll answer you Raiderman99. When I first saw Russell the first thing I notced was how well he threw on the run and his arm strength. He made some unbelieveable throws. Most were out of the pocket and on the run. Throwing bullets between defenders. Russell is struggling more with his confidence than he is with his accuracy. I say that because he throws the ball accurately to the HB’s and TE’s look at his stats.
When Chaz and JLH were starting he wasn’t deadly accurate but got the ball to them. And most of the time they caught it. Go back and look at those games last year completely different QB totaly.
His presence in the pocket was exceptional when he was confident. His ability to see the field was exceptinal when he was confident. His ability to hit his recievers in stide was exceptional when he was confident. his leadership skills were exceptional when he was confident. He brought LSU from behind t win 8 games in 29 starts. He brought the Raiders from behind to win games 3 times last year and this year The Jets the Bucs and KC and we should have beaten SD.
We would’ve beaten KC if DHB doesn’t drop his TD pass with him as a starter. What you’ve seen with Russell is a very young QB srtuggling with his confidence more than anything else. Yes no question he needs to put mor work everybody knows that.
But if you innumerate everything you look for in a QB before you draft him Russell showed that before he was drafted. Leadership wasn’t even a question. You may have question his maturity to some extent but how long des that last eventually he’ll mature. All the other attributes were there.
Leadership, competitiveness, accuracy, makes all the throws has command in the huddle. The tougher the situations the more he competes. He did that with us. This year he lifted this team to a go ahead TD late in the SD gamea also in the KC game.
As I said his biggest problem right now is his confidence in the players around him. If he were more confident you’d see a lot more accurate QB. A lot more you’d see what you saw last year even more.
Get Russell 3 good WR’s to go with that TE and a running game and then I’ll take anything he turns out to be.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Little more cringing TJ:
priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Well while that is not going to happen, you can almost pack Cable’s bags and get his bus ticket. He sld Grads to Mr Davis and if he doesn’t play well in the next two games Cable will almost certainly be fired. IMO
The only offensive coach that I would retain is Hackett. I’d get a WR coach worth his salt. I hope mr Davis hires te GM and then let’s the GM hire the HC.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Grow up man! talk football like the rest of us and quit trying to replace your d!ck with this blog.
It’s not interesting…really!
August 30th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Now..reading the following…is there ANY DOUBT AS TO WHY TJ STILL BAGS ON GRAD?
You kind of pulled a “MR” there, didn’t you, TJ?
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· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Don’t gorget we’re watching the great Gradkowski, the next Gannon.
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Should we put Russell in now or later, why watse snaps on this lame?
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
WOW, can it get any worse this guy is tooo small and to weak…………period
Cable, admit you’re a FOOL and put the kid back in there………period
August 30th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Kirk Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Just watched the game on TIVO today.
Some thoughts…
The big hit on Campbell should have been a 15 yard penalty for a blow to the head.
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kirk,
i didnt like seeing our starting qb getting injured like that, but come on bro, a penalty. if anything laboy laid a good hit on campbell that knocked him. thats the problem with the nfl these days, its becoming a sissy sport. campbell knows what he’s getting into in the NFL CONTACT!!!! that penalty is bullsh!t that comment was disappointing too kirk.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
blog ruined…I’m out
August 30th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
No one here…exit, stage left.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
evening nation!!!! whats good with everybody?
August 30th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Dude, a bunch of crap on here at night. I’m going back to the dayshift. OUT
August 30th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
297. Bey catches with his body. Its about composure and so far he has very little.
He can work on catching with his hands all he wants but when the pressures on he’s going to revert.
Reminds me, I see the same thing with the mighty Tebowner in Denver.
Soon as a rush starts toward him his arm flops down to his waist when he starts his throwing motion. Lucky he’s got Clady to keep guys from swattin git when they get close but you’ll see it alot from him.
Want to see Bey catch a pass with his hands on a dead run.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
DHB says he’s been on the Juggs machine all year, really?
August 30th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Not using it. Just ON it.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Depth Chart:
RDE: Matt S, Daniels (I don’t like Cooper & Gunheim)
DT: TK, Henderson
DT: Seymour, Bryant
LDE: Houston, Jay Richardson
WLB: T Scott, Groves
MLB: McClain, Brown, Goethel
SLB: Wimbley, TH
CB: Nnamdi, McFadden
CB: CJ/ Routt, Ware
SS: Branch, Mitchell
FS: Huff, S Brown
August 30th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Sorry Taz, a blind side blow to the head is a penalty.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# Kirk Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Sorry Taz, a blind side blow to the head is a penalty.
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Come on Taz. You should know the ‘Ref Rules’ by now.
It’s only a penalty when The Raiders do it.
It’s sad, but true.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Correction:
RE: Matt S
DT: TK, Henderson, Heard
DT: Seymour, Bryant
LE: Houston, Richardson
The rest are the same..
August 30th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
sorry kirk, only if its intentional but unintentional ones count too nowadays now that goodell is turning the nfl in a pansy sport
August 30th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
arm chair bro i know, but that aint my point, it just irks me the fact that nowadays the qbs get so much protection and kirk acknowledged it.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
# TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
On the first drive it actually looks like a legitimate pocket.
I still say the Raiders are one stud LT away from having a passable, if not stellar offensive line.
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Agree and they also need a good Center and a stud WR.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Raider O,how are ya? Like most of us, saw some good/some bad. Niner fans are chirping about the final score,morons! Mostly cuz we didnt have many sacks, HELLO, WE play them during the season, vanilla on defense,show NOTHING now, kick ass then! Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
The return game needs to seriously step it up as well.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
QB: Campbell, Gradkowski, Boller
RB: Bush, DMC, Bennett
FB: Reece, Who ever the Jets cut
TE: Miller, Myers
WR: DHB, Murphy, Chaz, JLH, Ford
LT: Mario, Veldheer
LG: Gallery, Morris
C: Satele, Veldheer
RG: Walker, Cooper
RT: Barns, Campbell
STs:
LS: Condo
K: Jano
P: Lechler
KR: Ford, DMC
PR: JLH, Ford
August 30th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I’ll continue working on the depth chart later. Sorry, but the Raiders game is on NFLN.
We need to sign 2 more players. OL & WR
Hendu,
I’m great sir. How are you. We played conservative Defense, and we played vanilla offense.
We need to improve our OL.
Raiders!!!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
KK give the kid a break man at least he’s working hard to get better, what else do you want?
So he’s not Fitzgerald yet, if he gives us a legitimate deep threat that’s all that matters. With his speed half the DB’s will be backpedaling into the endzone. Incidently the 2nd pass he caught was with his hands but he puts the ball away so fast you don’t notice it. If you don’t believe me super slomo the catch and you’ll see for yourself.
This kid will be well worth the wait once he gets it all together, he’s as big as most HB’s but runs like the wind 6′2′ 220 4.25 speed 44 inch verticle and very competitive just let him get it together. Trust me!
August 30th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
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It’s not worship to say that Gruden knows more about today’s game than Al Davis. It’s a fact.
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It’s also pretty g@y to still be tied to Gruden and Kiffen if you are a real Raider fan.
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Don’t you remember when you used to do this with other handles, MR?
You got it from SeyGlenDorks book of “Cross Posting for Dummies”.
You actually think if you argue with yourself, and actually call yourself names, some will figure that “It can’t be him”..but..you stupidly take the bait whenever someone tosses it out.
Didn’t you state how “MR is one of the better posters” here? Something on that line? Gushing over “MR”..how you actually stated “I always enjoy reading you whenever I come on’?? LMAO…wasn’t that you?
And then when someone calls you on being MR, you then start an argument with yourself?
Do..you..uh..think you fooled anyone?
do you think SeyOakDeboJustWin does?
Just curious, mama’s boy.
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Funny thing is there are about 500 psychotic things this richochet idiot posts just in this one post. He is the lst one crying to the mods, yet he calls someone else a mama’s boy. And then don’t even start that he thinks people come here, take 2nd and 3rd identities, then sit on this blog arguing with THEMSELVES just to prove that they don’t do that, to HIM. It doesn’t really get more psychotic than that.
This richochet guy is so psychotic I would expect him to literally stalk others on the blog. But that would just be downright nutty if he actually did that.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
One thing I did notice about this game, when we hit that bigtime pass to Murphy the 49ers backed way off and the blitzing slowed way down. They were putting P Willis in coverage instead of blitzing him. They really got burned bigtime on that play. And that’s why I preach so much about speed and it’s affect on defenses it forces them to play more honest. You could tell they didn’t want that to happen again. They were even rushing only 3 and dropping everyone else into coverage and DHB still caught one one them. The next play DMC scoots for 9 yards. They were terrified of the bigplay the rest of the game.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
post 317 lol dont think he’s psychotic though hes just an oddball. theres nobody else weirder on this blog.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
The next play they leave ZMiller one on one and he scores the niners were devastated. There is no doubt in my mind we will beat them in the regular season. It toatlly took them out of their normal blitz happy defense and made the cover and we had way too much speed for them. They cannot defend us especially if we run well.
In fact there will be few team that can we have way too much speed, WOW if we had these QB’s from the start of last season we would’ve won the division. This team is a lot better than I thought a lot better.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
priesttj
dont take any offense to this i really like how you’re optimistic but come on dogg dont sugarcoat everything bro.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Look man I get sick of you guy’s thinking I’m some shill if I said they suck you’d ;like that better even though that’s not what I believe. I say what I think and on ly what I think. If you don’t agree that” your godgiven right but man please don’t tell me what to think.
This is the first time I had a chance to really scout this game and I’m doing it objectively piece by piece and writing what I see. Now if you don’t like it just pass up the post…………period
August 30th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
One thing I did notice about this game, when we hit that bigtime pass to Murphy the 49ers backed way off and the blitzing slowed way down. They were putting P Willis in coverage instead of blitzing him. They really got burned bigtime on that play. And that’s why I preach so much about speed and it’s affect on defenses it forces them to play more honest. You could tell they didn’t want that to happen again. They were even rushing only 3 and dropping everyone else into coverage and DHB still caught one one them. The next play DMC scoots for 9 yards. They were terrified of the bigplay the rest of the game.
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Screw speed…..we need a team that stops the run, has a good O-Line and doesn’t make stupid penalties.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
WEll go find a slow team then you whinny little geek.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:10 am
# Just Win Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Isn’t it MR can you say Gruden…?
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It’s not worship to say that Gruden knows more about today’s game than Al Davis. It’s a fact.
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It’s also pretty g@y to still be tied to Gruden and Kiffen if you are a real Raider fan.
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Don’t you remember when you used to do this with other handles, MR?
You got it from SeyGlenDorks book of “Cross Posting for Dummies”.
You actually think if you argue with yourself, and actually call yourself names, some will figure that “It can’t be him”..but..you stupidly take the bait whenever someone tosses it out.
Didn’t you state how “MR is one of the better posters” here? Something on that line? Gushing over “MR”..how you actually stated “I always enjoy reading you whenever I come on’?? LMAO…wasn’t that you?
And then when someone calls you on being MR, you then start an argument with yourself?
Do..you..uh..think you fooled anyone?
do you think SeyOakDeboJustWin does?
Just curious, mama’s boy.
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Funny thing is there are about 500 psychotic things this richochet idiot posts just in this one post. He is the lst one crying to the mods, yet he calls someone else a mama’s boy. And then don’t even start that he thinks people come here, take 2nd and 3rd identities, then sit on this blog arguing with THEMSELVES just to prove that they don’t do that, to HIM. It doesn’t really get more psychotic than that.
This richochet guy is so psychotic I would expect him to literally stalk others on the blog. But that would just be downright nutty if he actually did that.
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Shut up, SeyOakdork..you fool no one.
Hint: Next time don’t repost the EXACT SAME TAKE THAT YOU POSTED AS OAKDORK, AND THEN DEBO, AND THEN SEYMOUR. Your “psychotic” take is almost word for word under each handle, and you stupidly use it for different posters.
You posted the same take to Dude, the same almost exact take to Mr. B…
Get some new material, you cross posting POS.
And save the “crying to the mods”, lol…all I stated that your OTHER handle, Just Cheating (aka Captain Black) should be gone considering your scumbag comments you posted using your other handle…now quit crying, Old Man, and tell us some more how you watched Johnny Unitas, in person, many many times.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Dude, a bunch of crap on here at night. I’m going back to the dayshift. OUT
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It’s not for the weak of heart, and the vertically challenged.
Kumbaya sessions end at sundown.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 am
# ArmChair GM Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# Kirk Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Sorry Taz, a blind side blow to the head is a penalty.
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Come on Taz. You should know the ‘Ref Rules’ by now.
It’s only a penalty when The Raiders do it.
It’s sad, but true.
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It’s “fans” like you (and I use the term loosely) that give other fans a bad name.
Why whine like a slapped on little redhead?
“OMG..the refs…THE REFS…THEY ARE SUCH MEANIES”
Whining and making excuses are for children.
“wahhh…we didn’t lose..it was the refs”
“wahhh…we weren’t ahead at the final, but that doesn’t count, 3rd quarter counts”
Excuses. Excuses are for losers. Blaming the refs are for clueless losers.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:36 am
okay priest your taking it out of context i was telling you what to think but im just saying on a lot of your post man your too over optimistic like last year and its cool you being real but theres a difference with that and sugarcoating stuff. if your getting butthurt over that i wont bother posting at you if you take what i said was hard.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:46 am
Re watching the game, and man, Reece needs to step it up in the blocking category.
Twice he let P Willis make plays behind the line without picking him up. DMC would have had some yardage on a play and the 2nd time he allowed a sack.
Inexcusable to not have a body on Willis at all times!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:47 am
Also, the Niners O-Line was getting away with holding in the 1st half by the way.
Iupati held McClain on Gores long run and Scott got held as well early.
August 31st, 2010 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Tell me why some people post in here just to rip on someone! I mean … geez, some ain’t got nothing better to do huh? Other than that…post 330…yup!
And what that Ricochet character said is right…its only an fn penalty when the Raiders do it! But who cares…its not gonna change…I seen our receiver past the first down marker and as soon as he did, the yellow flag was in the air….now you tell me if its gonna change or not!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:02 am
If we don’t keep Bennett, we are fools. He is the best running back we have with Bush injuried. He faked a defender out of his jock strap the other night. You never see McFadden do that.
August 31st, 2010 at 6:02 am
Seahawks released WR Kole Heckendorf.
go get’em AL!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:03 am
Richochet, I call em as I see em.
Bad calls are bad calls.
August 31st, 2010 at 6:04 am
Who?
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 6:02 am
Seahawks released WR Kole Heckendorf.
go get’em AL!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:10 am
Hwnrdr:
Heckendorf received a scholarship to play college football at North Dakota State University, as a wide receiver. He lettered all four years, starting 42 of 43 career games and finished as the all-time leading receiver in school history. He totaled 178 catches for 2,732 yards, and scored 17 touchdowns during his career, becoming the first receiver in the history of the program to lead the team in receptions for four seasons.
Heckendorf redshirted in 2004. He started 10 of the team’s 11 games as a redshirt freshman in 2005, collecting 37 catches for 470 yards and two touchdowns. He caught his first career touchdown pass in a win at Northwestern State on September 10.
Heckendorf started 11 games and had a career-high 52 receptions as a sophomore in 2006, totaling 742 yards and five touchdowns for the Bison. He was named to the All-Nothwest Region third-team by the Football Gazette and was voted to the All-GWFC second-team by the league’s media after helping NDSU win the conference championship.
He started all 11 games as a junior, catching at least one pass in every game and finishing the season with 48 catches for 766 yards and six touchdowns. He earned All-Great West Football Conference first-team honors after ranking third in the league in both receptions and yards for the season.
He was named a second-team All-Missouri Valley Football Conference selection in 2008 after making 41 catches for 744 yards and four touchdowns as a senior. Heckendorf overcame a bout with Lyme disease and a 20-pound weight loss prior to the season. He finished the season ranked third in the conference in yards and fifth in receptions. He had a career day in the 2008 opener vs. Austin Peavy on August 28, catching eight passes and notching new career highs with 179 receiving yards and three touchdowns. He made a career-high nine catches at Youngstown State on September 20 later in the season. He was a member of the ESPN The Magazine Academic All-America first-team as a senior.
August 31st, 2010 at 6:12 am
Kole Heckendorf is 24 years old
6′2″ 191 lbs
hails from Wausau, Wisconsin
Heckendorf > Watkins, Figurs, NMiller
August 31st, 2010 at 6:16 am
Cool…so he’s a rook? Did they draft him? If he’s greater than those 3 guys…lets do it Al!!! Especially…darn Watkins SHOULD have caught that darn ball inside the 10!!! But oh well…I think in that game, no one threaded the ball better than Bruce Almighty!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:17 am
Sorry…2nd year?
August 31st, 2010 at 6:20 am
4.4 forty time too
you reading this Mr. Davis ???
Kole Heckendorf = STUD!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:24 am
Hwnrdr: yeah, 2nd year player
the Packers signed him as an undrafted rookie. cut him in Preseason. Lions grabbed him and he spent last year on thier practice squad. Seahawks signed him on 05/12 and released him yesterday …
I’m telling you right now this kid can play. we’re hurting at WR, so why not ???
August 31st, 2010 at 6:31 am
we have to cut 1 more player to make 75 today …
Tony Stewart, Chane Moline, Allen Smith and Paul Hubbard are already gone
any guesses?
August 31st, 2010 at 6:34 am
4 guys on offense.
will the 5th guy be defense?
Daniels, Heard, Nixon, Boyd or Porter perhaps ???
August 31st, 2010 at 6:35 am
if we cut another guy on offense I’m guessing:
Brennan, Tonga, Bodiford, Butler or Parsons
August 31st, 2010 at 6:46 am
Let it be … Bodiford…
August 31st, 2010 at 6:55 am
‘Henderson said. “Like I said, now it’s behind me….”‘
Thats the effin’ problem Mario… the defensive end is BEHIND YOU!!!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:00 am
pardon the rudeness!
Good Morning Hwnrdr, BCZ, Kirk …
coffee is on me today
got a meeting in 30 min
August 31st, 2010 at 7:04 am
Rookie linebacker Rolando McClain blew off one TV reporter after practice Monday, saying “I’m good.” Then, he didn’t even make eye contact or respond when a writer approached him minutes later. He just walked on by. The look on McClain’s face was almost as cold as it was when he walked away from autograph-seeking season-ticket holders screaming his name at training camp.
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this guy LOVES being a Raider and sure is embracing the fans!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:05 am
if al didn’t do stupid things like these little talks about injury updates and not making coaches and players available, no one would know he’s still around.
i think he sees cable’s strength is in how he handles the press, so first thing to destroy is how he interacts with them. cable has been getting good press and that more than anything probably chaps his arse. next step, to undermine him with the players because that is another strength cable has and it probably rubs al the wrong way since al’s like the godfather no one wants to actually come see him, they get summonded.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:05 am
Makes you wonder why he is doing that? I wonder if he was told? Doesn’t players get fined by the NFL by not making themselves available during the regular season?
August 31st, 2010 at 7:07 am
Cable pretty much said what you see is what you got on offensive line. Backups just haven’t pushed starters (besides Veldheer at C)
-Vittorio Tafur (twitter)
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so Mario Henderson, Cooper Carlisle & Langston Walker aren’t even being PUSHED?
Khalif Barnes, Bruce Campbell & Erik Pears are so far behind they aren’t even considered “competition” for the not-so-solid starters?
yikes!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:10 am
Ok stop…LOL
Khalif Barnes, Eric Pears???
Bruce Campbell, I’ll give him that this is his first year…Erc Pears was actually not bad as an extra blocking TE at times last year..but Barnes??? That is why we need OL next year!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:11 am
Laveranues Coles? LOL. Jerry just created a teammate for Hartwell Brown.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:12 am
what does the Tony Stewart cut mean?
1. John Owens beat him out
2. we’re only keeping 2 TE’s
3. it was a mistake. he’ll be back before the regular season starts
please weigh in!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:14 am
That is why we need OL next year!!!
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Hwnrdr: we needed OL this year bro!
as my boy Jhill points out, we drafted 2 LT’s in Rounds 3 & 4 respectively
right now one is a backup C and the other is a backup RG
what gives ???
August 31st, 2010 at 7:15 am
I think that he will be back because he was at least serviceable!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:16 am
Good Morning Nation!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:17 am
Good point Rockstar! Gallerey didn’t pan out, but at least the other 2 did not go #2! Its probably obvious that we are not getting any OL help this year…explaining why I said next year…I believe the “experts” has us all OL in next years draft!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:17 am
NoMoreFargas must be on pins and needles this week. lol.
Michael Bennett IS a running back.
Rock Cartwright is a tough little dude without the speed of a Kaufmann or Sproles.
McChickenlegs is a cartoon character.
there you have it folks. the back-ups to Broken Thumb.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:17 am
Good morning Ray!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:19 am
Whatever became of Daniel Loper? I thought he was the cure of all ills on the O-line.
and, good morning AM Crew.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:21 am
Daniel Loper…is he still with the squad? You’re right…haven’t heard much of him since Dallas!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:23 am
good morning ray, M, Hobs …
Loper is still here, but isn’t getting much playing time
maybe he got scolded, because he stonewalled that “beast” TK in camp too many times ???
August 31st, 2010 at 7:25 am
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August 31st, 2010 at 7:26 am
Jerry McD: Mum Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:25 am
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What does that mean? That he’s watching us? LOL
August 31st, 2010 at 7:26 am
NoMoreFargas must be on pins and needles this week
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if the Raiders re-sign Justin Fargas that means either Bennett or Cartwright is gone, and Bush’s injury is worse off than we thought
August 31st, 2010 at 7:29 am
As long as I can get the quarterback, I guess everybody’s happy, right?”
Baby steps for me at this point. Baby steps.”
Asked about his two sacks, LaBoy said, “Preseason doesn’t really count, dude.”
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Travis Laboy is worried about getting cut, per SF Gate. the Titans & Cardinals had no use for him previously
I’d take him as 4th DE over Cooper or Gunheim!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:29 am
If we resign Fargas, than that means that he could not cut it in the injury plagued Bronco’s run happy Offense…wait, sorry, Rat Face is in DC!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:30 am
Singletary is the one with control over the 53-man roster that gets finalized Saturday, not personnel chief Trent Baalke or 49ers President Jed York.
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Hmmm…
August 31st, 2010 at 7:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:29 am
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Travis Laboy is worried about getting cut, per SF Gate. the Titans & Cardinals had no use for him previously
I’d take him as 4th DE over Cooper or Gunheim!
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Hell yeah…another dude from Hawaii!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:30 am
MEETING. BBL
Raider On!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:32 am
Rockstar,
no way of knowing how the fractured thumb plays out, but to even the rosiest-eyed observer it is clear that as a RB #20 is just a #2 plus nothing.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:37 am
Hwnrdr,
I’m making Loco Moco for my sister’s family up here in Montana on the weekend. Got any special recipe tips for me?
(made ‘em spam musubi last year and they loved it despite their suspicions.)
August 31st, 2010 at 7:38 am
LOL @ #20 is just a #2 plus nothing. Where’s our South Dakotan ostrich?
August 31st, 2010 at 7:41 am
Wait… Travis Laboy isnt even good enough to make the team in SF and he is recording sacks against our STARTING LT? Great… Im about to hop on RMR’s 5-11 bus.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:42 am
Seahawks released WR Kole Heckendorf.
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Ok Bo, let’s hear it….
Trade DMAC for a bottle of Heckendorf.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:46 am
M…haha…Loco Moco is something I haven’t had in a long time, but…
Grill some hamburger patties
Put the patties on a bowl of rice
Serve up two eggs by the eater’s choice
Put brown gravy on the whole thing.
Off course, season the thing with salt, pepper, soy sauce. I prefer garlic salt, but that’s up to you…
Enjoy!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:46 am
Stabler76 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:42 am
Seahawks released WR Kole Heckendorf.
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Ok Bo, let’s hear it….
Trade DMAC for a bottle of Heckendorf.
LMAO!!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:50 am
hwnrdr Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:46 am
M…haha…Loco Moco is something I haven’t had in a long time, but…
Grill some hamburger patties
Put the patties on a bowl of rice
Serve up two eggs by the eater’s choice
Put brown gravy on the whole thing.
Off course, season the thing with salt, pepper, soy sauce. I prefer garlic salt, but that’s up to you…
Enjoy!
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Sounds Delicious!! Does that come with a coronary or do you order that seperately? LMAO
August 31st, 2010 at 7:52 am
LOL. Give Hella-dorf #20.
August 31st, 2010 at 7:52 am
Good Morning Bcz24…I do love it with bacon also, but…LMAO! The coronary comes separately…if you can find one!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:54 am
Dorf on Football…Haha!
August 31st, 2010 at 7:56 am
I just finished an onion bagel with bacon and egg sandwich. Washed it down with Dew de la Mountain. All the relevant food groups…
August 31st, 2010 at 7:57 am
What up NATION???
August 31st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Things seem to be getting a little weird in Raider-ville.
Stewart a suprise cut prior to the big cuts later this week, Cable getting testy and now not talking at all about injuries, a mini-QB debate that might wage on throughout the year.
Don’t like where we are headed. We HAVE to win in Tennessee.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:20 am
JustFB,
weird in Raiderland? c’mon now…SOB isn’t necessarily FUBAR.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:24 am
I agree with you JFB!!! That HAS TO BE our Statement game!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 8:28 am
Oh…my bad, got caught up watchin a replay of Sat. game!
August 31st, 2010 at 8:33 am
With Stewart cut I bet Pears stays to play TE in a jumbo set. Myers and Zach suffice otherwise, with Reece and DMAC in routes as well.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:44 am
Last year, couldnt stop the run, couldnt protect our qb, couldnt gain any field position via the return game…
So far this year, NONE of that has improved?
Can someone make me a new batch of koolaid, mine has run out.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:46 am
# M Lonetree Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:32 am
Rockstar,
no way of knowing how the fractured thumb plays out, but to even the rosiest-eyed observer it is clear that as a RB #20 is just a #2 plus nothing.
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LOL!
August 31st, 2010 at 8:47 am
# bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 8:44 am
Last year, couldnt stop the run, couldnt protect our qb, couldnt gain any field position via the return game…
So far this year, NONE of that has improved?
Can someone make me a new batch of koolaid, mine has run out.
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No kidding! I was high on kool-aid last week. The buzz has worn off.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:51 am
The positive… Louis Murphy can score from anywhere on the field (if the defenders dont account for him and let him run free, and he doesnt drop it)
August 31st, 2010 at 8:55 am
What’s with the gloom and doom mood in here today. We played a playoff caliber team to a lead on first units for 2.5 quarters and I swear I hear a funeral in here.
August 31st, 2010 at 8:56 am
My latest 53 keeping both Eugene and Brown, and trying to hide Goethel on the PS,
QB-Campbell, Grads, Boller (3)
WR-Schilens,Murphy,DHB,JLH,Ford,Figurs (6)
TE-Miller, Meyers(2)
OT-Henderson,Veldheer,Walker,Pears(4)
OG-Gallery,Barnes,Carlisle,B.Campbell(4)
C-Satele,Morris(2)
RB-Bush,McFadden,Cartwright,Fargas(4)
FB-Reece(1)
DT-Seymour,Kelly,Bryant,Henderson(4)
DE-Houston,Shaugnessy,J-Rich(3)
LB-Wimbley,McClain,Scott,Howard,Brown,Groves,Williams(7)
S-Branch,Huff,Mitchell,Brown,Eugene(5)
CB-NA,CJ,Routt,McFadden,Ware(5)
Lechler,J-Kow,Condo(3)
August 31st, 2010 at 8:59 am
Yo JFB!
You’re RB situation is looking a bit bleek for week 1!
MJD = knee surgery rumors?
Carolina hasn’t scored a TD all preseason?
I think I’m going to start all my Raiders against you week 1.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:00 am
RB-Bush,McFadden,Cartwright,Fargas(4)
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Fargas ?????
LMFAO!
August 31st, 2010 at 9:09 am
Fargas?!?!
Bennett > Fargas
WAY >
August 31st, 2010 at 9:19 am
Why would you have Fargas on the roster?!
Fargas?!?!?
Really?!
August 31st, 2010 at 9:21 am
We have a better footbal team, that will double the win total from last year…
August 31st, 2010 at 9:21 am
just shaking things up a bit, but knowing Al’s devotion to his scholarship guys, I could see us bringing in Fargas at some point. Especially since Bennett has slipped behind Cartwright on the depth chart.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:23 am
J,
You just worry about those low-level WR’s you got.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:29 am
Bennett is WAY better than Fargas, based on a few pre-season carries against second stringers? Come on, the hatred for Fargas in here is ridiculous sometimes. As a starter NO WAY, but as an insurance policy for Bush’s thumb, I dont see why not.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:29 am
Will we be able to run the ball this year? The Oline has not been good at run blocking…
Who’s our #3 receiver? Not real excited about Higgins or Ford yet…
August 31st, 2010 at 9:31 am
Rumor has it that Antonio Bryant might be done because of structural damage in his knee.
Back to Patrick Crayton as the only legitimate option the Raiders have if they plan on bringing in a veteran receiver, I suppose. But given how shoddy the return game has been as of late, maybe trading for Crayton isn’t such a bad idea.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:33 am
New Pre-Season 53 -
(3) QB – J.Campbell(8)/Gradkowski(5)/Boller(7)
(3) RB – Bush(29)/D.Mcfadden(20)/Bennett(32)
(2) FB – Reece(45)/Cartwright(25)
(6) WR – Murphy(18)/Heyward-Bey(85)/Shillens(81)/Higgins(15)/Ford(12)/Figures(13)
(2) TE – Z. Miller(80)/Meyers(83)
(2) LT – M.Henderson(75)/Veldheer(68)
(2) LG – Gallery(76)/Barnes(69)
(2) C – Satele(64)/Morris(51)
(2) RG – Carlisle(66)/B.Campbell(74)
(2) RT – Walker(70)/Pears(72)
(4) DT – Seymour(92)/Kelly(93)/J.Henderson(79)/Bryant(90)
(4) DE – Houston(99)/Shaughnessy(77)/Richardson(98)/Cooper(78)
(3) MLB- McClain(55)/R.Brown(57)/Williams (54)
(4) OLB- Scott(91)/Wimbley(96)/Groves(52)/Howard(53)
(5) CB – Asomugha(21)/C.Johnson(37)/Routt(26)/W.McFadden(22)/Ware(23)
(4) S – Branch(33)/Mitchell(34)/Huff(24)/S.Brown(27)
(1) K – Janikowski(11)
(1) P – Lechler(9)
(1) LS – Condo(59)
Practice Squad:
RB: Manase Tonga(41)
FS: Jerome Boyd(30)
DE: Alex Daniels(71)
DT: Kellen Heard(67)
OG: Alex Parsons(65)
LB: Travis Goethel(48)
WR: Nick Miller(89)
K: Swayze Waters(1)
August 31st, 2010 at 9:33 am
I see a lot of screens, draws and reverses in our running game this year. Running straight ahead will put Bush on the bench an awful lot, those guys are not good at man blocking or zone blocking. If Hue can keep teams honest running enough unconventional running plays like that, so be it. But I just dont see us pounding the rock like the Niners were able to do on us.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:33 am
Murphy, DHB, Crayton, JLH, Ford… (Chaz), Miller(?)
Looks halfway decent to me, assuming Chaz gets healthy at any point in the season.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:35 am
I still think the runs up the middle looked much better with Veldheer blocking than with Satele. Satele couldn’t get any push whatsoever. He’s a smaller guy, but it’s like he can’t get any leverage at all.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:39 am
I still think the runs up the middle looked much better with Veldheer blocking than with Satele. Satele couldn’t get any push whatsoever. He’s a smaller guy, but it’s like he can’t get any leverage at all.
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I didn’t see JV have a bad snap, or step on the QBs foot – that alone is an upgrade.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:44 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 9:29 am
Bennett is WAY better than Fargas, based on a few pre-season carries against second stringers?
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Hello!? Fargas signed with DENVER. He is dead to me and Al too, same as Timmy Brown, who also signed a Bronco contract back in the day.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:45 am
Problem Veldheer at C is our gaping holes at OT. We need him there!
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Campbell-Barnes
August 31st, 2010 at 9:48 am
Alphonso Smith released by the Donkeys!!
August 31st, 2010 at 9:48 am
where is Dell?
we’re swapping 53 man roster predictions very soon!
mine is pretty similar to Ted’s …
August 31st, 2010 at 9:49 am
Alphonso Smith released by the Donkeys!!
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LOL!
Javier Arenas next. right JFB?
those dudes are basically clones …
August 31st, 2010 at 9:52 am
I agree that we have a need at LT, too. But I don’t think Veldheer improves the LT position as much as he does at C.
In a perfect world, I’d like to see this:
Gaither – Gallery – Veldheer – Walker/Cambpell – Henderson/Walker
I think that would instantly put the Raiders in the running for a division title this season.
Of course, next season they can still make a run at Gaither and give up nothing in the way of trade compensation since he’ll be a free agent. Then they can draft another offensive tackle, and maybe even a center to throw into the mix.
Either way, the OT positions are definitely areas of concern.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:53 am
Alphonso Smith
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Who????
August 31st, 2010 at 9:55 am
I don’t understand the Gaither talk.
If the guy was as good as some of you think, why was Oher drafted to replace him?
Our history with other teams castoffs isn’t that good.
August 31st, 2010 at 9:57 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 8:11 am
Things seem to be getting a little weird in Raider-ville.
Stewart a suprise cut prior to the big cuts later this week, Cable getting testy and now not talking at all about injuries, a mini-QB debate that might wage on throughout the year.
Don’t like where we are headed. We HAVE to win in Tennessee.
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I’m still backing the ‘No Knuckleheads’ regime – I liked how Hue-Jax and Grads were able to turn the momentum around on Sat, and pull us out of meltdown mode.
I also like how healthy we were able to stay going into week one. MBush’ thumb is a bummer, but at least his legs are still good. J-Camp didn’t even miss a practice. Chaz is out, but what is new. CJ37, Satele, Seymour are good to go! We suffered some bumps and bruises, but for the most part we are ready to rock.
My biggest concern this week is Special Teams. If we could iron out our coverage and returns, we will put our team in a much better position to win. On Sat., the 49ers had a better run D than us, we had better pass coverage than them. Where we got embarrassed was on Special Teams (except for the 57 yarder), and O-line.
Our OLine is what it is, but our Special teams NEEDS to play better for us to win. (imho)
August 31st, 2010 at 9:57 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 9:31 am
Rumor has it that Antonio Bryant might be done because of structural damage in his knee.
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This story sounds a bit like the story of Chaz Schillens. Or soon to be….
August 31st, 2010 at 9:58 am
As of Today: Dell is making it “official” on Friday
QB Campbell, Gradkowski, Boller
RB Bush, McFadden, Bennett, Cartwright
FB Lawton, Reece
WR Schilens, Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Higgins, Watkins, Ford
TE Miller, Myers
OL Henderson, Gallery, Satele, Carlisle, Walker, Veldheer, Campbell, Pears, Barnes
DL Shaughnessy, Seymour, Kelly, Houston, Richardson, Henderson, Bryant, Cooper
LB Scott, McClain, Wimbley, Brown, Goethel, Groves, Williams
CB Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, McFadden, Ware
FS Huff, Brown
SS Branch, Mitchell
K/P Janikowski, Lechler
LS Condo
August 31st, 2010 at 9:58 am
If we can get Gaither of the scrap heap, after he is cut by the Ravens that would be great, but trading for the guy? No way. I agree with J-Hill though, Cable and Al’s recent history with oline castoffs is awful.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:00 am
Practice Squad:
Brennan, Tonga, NMiller, Butler, Rodd, Gunheim, Norris & Boyd
August 31st, 2010 at 10:01 am
# J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 9:55 am
I don’t understand the Gaither talk.
If the guy was as good as some of you think, why was Oher drafted to replace him?
Our history with other teams castoffs isn’t that good.
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Oher was drafted because he fell in the laps of the Ravens, he’s a very marketable player, Gaither had wanted a new contract for a while, and when has having two starting-caliber offensive tackles ever been a bad thing?
According to NFL scouts, the guy was dominant when he played last season. Baltimore has the depth to replace him, and as long as they don’t want to give him the big payday he thinks he’s entitled to, why not ship him off to a team that will?
Even if he’s not as good as Oher, he’s still far and away better than any offensive tackle on the Raiders roster at the moment.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:02 am
Ozzie drafted Oher because he drafts the best available player and Oher was the best available player. Its no knock on Gaither to say Oher outplayed him, as Oher would outplay most tackles in the NFL. Gaither is still a high quality tackle, but the knock on him is commitment and love of the game. I dont see our current regime going after him based on that lack of commitment.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:02 am
I hate to throw a wet blanket on your hoooray for Veldheer party but he aint starting NOWHERE………..period
Actually I rather enjoyed that, Satele is healthy and he’ll start Thursday and the opener as he should. I’ve seen all I want to see from Veldheer at C anytime soon. Let the kid sit and learn and up his game then we might have something……whew!! Veldheer Veldheer Veldheer sound like a bunch of drunken sailors.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:04 am
Why does Veldheer threaten you so much, TJ? Did he not give you an autograph or something? Or are you just that attached to Satele in spite of Satele’s track record of poor play?
August 31st, 2010 at 10:06 am
TJ: the reason so many other semi-pro bloggers think Jared Veldeer will start somewhere on the line at some point this season is because LT Henderson & C Satele simply aren’t that good.
Print That
August 31st, 2010 at 10:08 am
Did u see the catch Javon Walker made?-He makes my blood boil.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:08 am
Satele is better than Veldheer…but not by much.
To be able to say that about a veteran and a rookie after one start, isn’t an accolade for Satele.
It actually proves how weak he is.
Satele is not our answer at Center,PERIOD.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:08 am
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:02 am
I hate to throw a wet blanket on your hoooray for Veldheer party but he aint starting NOWHERE………..period
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Well, you certainly can’t expect him to be a rookie phenom like Arman Shields.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:09 am
Personally, I can’t say I’ve ever seen Satele flat-out win a battle at the line of scrimmage. If you’re going to try and “pound the rock” at all, that’s sort of something you have to do…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:09 am
I laughed out loud when the Broncos picked Alphonso Smith in the first round year before last. AFC West is the home of big, physical receivers and Josh McNumbnuts wastes a first-rounder on an ACC corner that’s about 5-9 180 pounds. Traded up to get him too, if I recall.
In other news, the Browns released John Bowie today. Still waiting for word on Randy Moss
August 31st, 2010 at 10:10 am
“The Raiders unproven Wide Receivers may be a cause for concern but opponents will soon learn the biggest pass catching threats wearing silver and black could come from…”
Oaklands Hidden Hands
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
August 31st, 2010 at 10:10 am
Veldheer, as the pivot, should have been managing the in-game line adjustments for pass-protection. I would say the multiple Willis blitzes alone should take him out of the running for actually starting right now. Satele is no pro-bowler, but he is a competent NFL center who has been playing the position for several years. Veldheer on the other hand has been playing it for what a month, maybe two. Veldheer looks a lot more dominant playing center on running plays, where all he needs to do is push, but Satele is probably way ahead of him on the mental aspect of the game.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:11 am
edward teach Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:09 am
I laughed out loud when the Broncos picked Alphonso Smith in the first round year before last. AFC West is the home of big, physical receivers and Josh McNumbnuts wastes a first-rounder on an ACC corner that’s about 5-9 180 pounds. Traded up to get him too, if I recall.
In other news, the Browns released John Bowie today. Still waiting for word on Randy Moss
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Unforch the Broncos took a flyer on DB/KR Perish Cox and he is highly under rated folks…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:11 am
Priest doesnt like Veldheer because hes white… Sorry I will be the one to point out the elephant on the blog… What else could it be. He champions for bums like Jamarcus and than talks garbage against Velheer.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:12 am
GONERS:
Brennan (PS)
Tonga (PS)
Figurs
Bodiford
NMiller (PS)
Owens
Butler (PS)
Loper
Morris
Parsons
Rodd (PS)
Gunheim (PS)
Daniels
Heard
Joseph
Howard
Nixon
Norris (PS)
Boyd (PS)
Eugene
Porter
Thomas
Waters
August 31st, 2010 at 10:13 am
435. I feel your logic BART but if you watch how many times Satele gets our QBs killed on the exact same kinds of blitzes and stunts it really might not make that much difference.
Satele sucks and starts very few other places imo…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:13 am
Bcz,
Priest = reverse Ted Nugent?
August 31st, 2010 at 10:14 am
bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:11 am
Priest doesnt like Veldheer because hes white… Sorry I will be the one to point out the elephant on the blog… What else could it be. He champions for bums like Jamarcus and than talks garbage against Velheer.
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disagree…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:14 am
Satele was shipped out of Miami because they weren’t thrilled with how he played against the 3-4 defenses in the AFC East. So what scheme does every other defense in the AFC West play..?
August 31st, 2010 at 10:15 am
disagree…
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Im no semi-pro blogger, but thats my opinion from the postings I see from the guy.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:15 am
the Browns released John Bowie today
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is he eligible for the practice squad?
10 years from now he’ll be Asst DB Coach …
August 31st, 2010 at 10:15 am
Good list RR.
I think TE Owens might be along shot to stick. Ugly as its been, Morris may stay too. Can’t see Barnes doing much to justify.
LB Howard might stay too. T Scott’s been pretty lousy against the run and only marginally better in coverage.
Gunnhiem and Brenann could be practice squad fodder.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:16 am
satele is serviceable at C fro now. Move Veldheer to another spot on the oline for now. He should backup satele just in case as he may not last a full season.
we obviuosly need QUAILITY depth at oline however, this team is light yeasr ahead of last years and its not even close….
August 31st, 2010 at 10:17 am
440. You leave the Nooge outa this!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:18 am
Maybe Davis will surprise us with a last second super star Oline addition…in my mind…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:19 am
Oh, I am no Satele champion, I just think the coaches probably understand Satele’s mental edge over Veldheer better than we do right now. But saying that Veldheer won’t start on the line this year at some point is crazy. Satele and Henderson are not going to be able to hold this guy back for 16 games, there are just too many glaring holes in their game. The fact that Veldheer is considered the 2nd teamer for both LT and Center tells me that Cable desperately wants to get this kid playing time. Just gonna let him keep learning and growing, and wait for Henderson or Satele to pile on the last straw.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:19 am
bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:15 am
disagree…
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Im no semi-pro blogger, but thats my opinion from the postings I see from the guy.
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In my opinion Preist sees things from a diffrent perspective, not from a racial one when it comes to football. I dont agrre with everything he puts down, but he is not racist against players for the nation…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:21 am
N21: I’d be VERY surprised to see Owens, Morris & Howard stick.
who on my list would you axe besides Barnes?
Sam Williams is cheaper than #53 and a better special teamer – same thing with Ricky Brown, who can also play WLB, SLB or MLB
Goethel & Groves have outplayed T-How in preseason games thus far
August 31st, 2010 at 10:21 am
bcz24 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:15 am
disagree…
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Im no semi-pro blogger, but thats my opinion from the postings I see from the guy.
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You are definetly a semi-pro blogger. just beaware of the professionals that come in here….
August 31st, 2010 at 10:22 am
Well, you certainly can’t expect him to be a rookie phenom like Arman Shields.
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Or JaWhopper. What a phenom he turned out to be. Just look at all the teams knocking down his door.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:22 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:17 am
440. You leave the Nooge outa this!!!
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Can’t. The bozo went overboard, and not too far from BSJ’s hood:
“Nugent commented approvingly that he saw so many white people in the audience. He commended Dubuque for being a “white town”.”
http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=292069
August 31st, 2010 at 10:22 am
Agreed BART. It would be a massive leap for a Div II kid like Veld to start game one and succeed in a hybrid ZBS / Straightline blocking scheme when he’s got to call the blocking, read the D and make the audibles.
He’ll likley be worked in in packages as part of a rotation I think Oaklands going to use more.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:23 am
Raiders 10-6 win the AFC west….Print it…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:24 am
TJ isn’t racist, he just likes to promote and predict BIG THINGS from average players.
Having said that … GO Higgins! GO CJ37!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:24 am
454. What?! The Nooge a gun loving, whack job Republican zealot a racist?!
Now I’ve seen everything…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:24 am
RR,
CJ goes pro bowl if he stays healthy.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:26 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:24 am
454. What?! The Nooge a gun loving, whack job Republican zealot a racist?!
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Worst of all, he is a deer baiter…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2010/08/ted-nugent-hunting-deer-baiting-no-contest.html
August 31st, 2010 at 10:28 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 7:26 am
NoMoreFargas must be on pins and needles this week
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if the Raiders re-sign Justin Fargas that means either Bennett or Cartwright is gone, and Bush’s injury is worse off than we thought
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That’s why I added the Forever.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:29 am
At an Anaheim, California concert on August 21, 2007, Nugent’s description of trips to New York and Chicago, and the conversations he purported to have with the senators are in keeping with his trademark views, as Nugent went on to describe similar incidents and invitations to “suck on his machine gun” with other prominent Democrats, such as Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.
Closer to home, Nugent has been extremely critical of two-term Democratic Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm, frequently interjecting “Jennifer Granholm, kiss my ass” into concert songs, and shooting an arrow at her likeness. In a 2006 interview, when Nugent briefly considered a run for Governor, he stated that Granholm “is not doing an ugly job, but as the perfect woman, she is scrotumless.” In 2007, he again talked about running for Michigan Governor in 2010, though it never materialized. At the time, he stated, “Michigan was once a great state. Michigan was a state that rewarded the entrepreneur and the most productive, work-ethic families of the state. Now the pimps and the whores and the welfare brats are basically the state’s babies.”
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LOL!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:38 am
Nugent calls Prez BO a clueless, rookie president. and a communist
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LOL!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:39 am
Heyyyyy…. Its not January!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:40 am
Go Raiders (1-0)!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:41 am
I am Classic Rock Revisited. I revisit it every waking moment of my life because it has the spirit and the attitude and the fire and the middle finger. I am Rosa Parks with a Gibson guitar.
-Ted Nugent
I have busted more hippies’ noses than all the narcs in the free world.
-Ted Nugent
August 31st, 2010 at 10:41 am
I don’t know whether Veldheer’s the answer at center or not. The coaching staff will decide that.
What I do know is that Satele isn’t the answer, and for the same reason he wasn’t the answer in Miami.
August 31st, 2010 at 10:45 am
“Everybody I hang with, the ranchers, the farmers, the cops, the teachers, the plumbers, everybody I hang with,” said Nugent. “They want to be a productive member of society and then they see an administration that is spitting on the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule.”
“So, we the Tea Partiers, we the people who are speaking up,” he continued.
“I’m going to quote my hero, Dr. Martin Luther King. ‘We who engage in non-violent direct action are not the cause of tension, but rather, bringing to the surface a tension that already exists,’” he said.
“That’s the job of we the people to be watchdogs and whistleblowers. The government works for us. They are absolutely out of control.”
August 31st, 2010 at 10:46 am
Heyyyyy…. Its not January!
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BCZ: nope
if it was we’d be talking about our playoff victory over the Dolphins or Texans!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:49 am
Who is the Raiders #3 WR?
DMC!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:49 am
right now we’re talking about Satele vs Veldheer at Center … neither has impressed thus far
Jared the giant only has 1 start in a preseason game under his belt. Satele is heading into Year #4
already started or played in 48 regular season games, right?
August 31st, 2010 at 10:50 am
Sign Mawae!
August 31st, 2010 at 10:52 am
LT – JV
LG – Gallery
C – Mawae
RG – Walker
RT – M.Henderson
August 31st, 2010 at 10:52 am
Who is the Raiders #3 WR?
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Murphy backs up Schilens
Higgins backs up Heyward-Bey
if Chaz can’t go, Murph is the starter. that would make JLH the #3 WR
Watkins was a 7th rounder in 2006 and has less than 10 career receptions. Ford is a return guy
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am
Satele may or may nt be a long term answer if I can get a better player at C I’ll take him in a heartbeat but Veldheer aint that player……….period
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am
Looks like Michael Clayton might get released by the Bucs. I wonder if Big Al will go after another former 1st round pick…
August 31st, 2010 at 10:57 am
Yep! I think we are all set at WR, can’t wait!
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:52 am
Who is the Raiders #3 WR?
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Murphy backs up Schilens
Higgins backs up Heyward-Bey
if Chaz can’t go, Murph is the starter. that would make JLH the #3 WR
Watkins was a 7th rounder in 2006 and has less than 10 career receptions. Ford is a return guy
August 31st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Looks like Michael Clayton might get released by the Bucs.
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TCMA: does he have Raider speed?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:00 am
TCMA: does he have Raider speed?
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4.45 I think. He’s 6′4, though, so at least he looks good getting off the bus!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:01 am
Yep! I think we are all set at WR, can’t wait!
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CJ: I think we should try to lure Muhsin Muhammad out of retirement or sign Kole Heckendorf
We’ll probably end up just giving Figurs a shot if Chaz starts out on the PUP list
August 31st, 2010 at 11:03 am
Murphy backs up Schilens
Higgins backs up Heyward-Bey
if Chaz can’t go, Murph is the starter. that would make JLH the #3 WR
Watkins was a 7th rounder in 2006 and has less than 10 career receptions. Ford is a return guy
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I hope they are on the Juggs Machine right now!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:03 am
It’s nothing personal against Veldheer I think he’s a fine player but people are trying to force this kid into something he’s not ready for.
Give him time to develope into an NFL calibre player and you might have something. It’s like when you saw DMC everyone went gaga over the guy and we’re still waiting for him to do something. Players need t catch up to the speed of this game. Look at the trouble McClain is having and he’s miles ahead of Veldheer as afar as talent for his position. It’ll take him all year to get there.
Let the coaches work with Veldheer and get him ready then maybe we’ll have something. He almost got DMC decapitated he can’t read blitzes. The OG’s were helping him almost every play. Give that kid TIME!!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:04 am
I am sure Cable could use an ice-Kole Heckendorf right now.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:06 am
QUESTION:
with Lawton suspended for the first 2 games, does he still count on the 53 man roster before being reinstated ???
that would give us 1 more guy for the first 2 weeks of the season … and Bush & Richardson should be 100 percent by then, if not sooner
Chaz? doubtful imo
August 31st, 2010 at 11:09 am
It is to late for a WR. There is a reason why they are dirt cheap and stilla round at this point in the game. We have to face the music we have who we have at WR this year.
We should have taken TO no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:09 am
Lawton will be cut.
Once he clears his suspension we MIGHT look at him if Reece is not getting the job done.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:11 am
RR where is this Kole guy at now? Was he in anyones camp?
Muhammad was a good WR back int he day but I think he is done.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:01 am
Yep! I think we are all set at WR, can’t wait!
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CJ: I think we should try to lure Muhsin Muhammad out of retirement or sign Kole Heckendorf
We’ll probably end up just giving Figurs a shot if Chaz starts out on the PUP list
August 31st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Is it me or are there too many people talking about Blackouts? We tend to believe Raider fans are top notch, but when you have teams like Detroit and Cleveland continuing to sell out games, are we really fanatics?
I say don’t worry about blackouts and worry about getting to the game.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:15 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:10 am
Veldheer, as the pivot, should have been managing the in-game line adjustments for pass-protection. I would say the multiple Willis blitzes alone should take him out of the running for actually starting right now. Satele is no pro-bowler, but he is a competent NFL center who has been playing the position for several years. Veldheer on the other hand has been playing it for what a month, maybe two. Veldheer looks a lot more dominant playing center on running plays, where all he needs to do is push, but Satele is probably way ahead of him on the mental aspect of the game.
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Exactly.
Until Jared learns to read blitzes consistently and get a body on the right man, they he will not be ready to start.
He held his own for the most part versus the Niners, but he struggled on blitz pickup.
If the Raiders could sign Kevin Mawae at this point, they probably should!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:16 am
All this mumbo jumbo about Veldheer not being ready is comical.
Really simple in my book.
1) Can you block?
2) Do you know you are supposed to block?
That is where we are with our Oline mayne. We are struggling to identify 5 guys who can simply satisfy the basic requirements, lol.
The guys who seem at least average at those 2 things are Gallery, Satele, Veldheer, Barnes, Campbell, and Loper.
Not impressed with Henderson, Walker, Pears, or Morris!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:17 am
Once he clears his suspension we MIGHT look at him if Reece is not getting the job done.
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Reece has useful hands out of the backfield, but he is not a LEAD BLOCKER
we’ll have 2 FB’s on this team. Cartwright might try and fill in for a short time if Reece struggles. Houston might even get some goal-line work
so you see us keeping Tonga for the first 2 weeks? or just keeping 1 FB on the roster? please clarify
August 31st, 2010 at 11:17 am
Richochet Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Dude, a bunch of crap on here at night. I’m going back to the dayshift. OUT
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It’s not for the weak of heart, and the vertically challenged.
Kumbaya sessions end at sundown.
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Who is this clown? Everytime I come to this site at night he is in here talking smack like hes all that. Everyone is a BA on the net, didn’t he get the memo? there is not any meaningful football conversation going on here at night, just this shumk talking trash, Wadda Life!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:17 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Is it me or are there too many people talking about Blackouts? We tend to believe Raider fans are top notch, but when you have teams like Detroit and Cleveland continuing to sell out games, are we really fanatics?
I say don’t worry about blackouts and worry about getting to the game.
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Those teams do NOT consistently sell out their home games. No way….
The NFL blackout rules are freakin a stupid archaic policy, that the NFL realy needs to change or abolish in the next collective bargaining agreement if they can.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:18 am
RR
What is up with Nick Miller? He may not be as big but it seems like the guy always finds a way to make a play. Why not just keep him he can get open? I bet you he would kick @$$ on a bubble screen. Campbell can put the ball where it needs to go I think that changes the whole dynamic.
The best WR we have is Zack any how!!!!! He will make the big catches.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Keep Tonga and Reece at FB
Keep Miller, Myers and Reece at TE
Reece can play two positions so its not a wasted roster spot on two FBs.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:20 am
He held his own for the most part versus the Niners, but he struggled on blitz pickup.
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The coach said there were 2 plays that Veldheer missed the calls on.
Cable’s review of Jared Veldheer, in his first start as a center in the NFL:“I thought pretty good. There are two plays I would like to have back. He probably would do. But I thought overall he did a fine job and I think for a guy going in playing against a 3-4, being covered every snap like that, you would have to say it was probably a little better than expected.”
August 31st, 2010 at 11:20 am
where is this Kole guy at now? Was he in anyones camp?
Muhammad was a good WR back int he day but I think he is done.
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CJ: Kole Heck was in Seattle’s camp, just released yesterday
Moose isn’t a #1 WR, but he did well as a #2 for the Panthers last year opposite Steve Smith. he’s a move-the-chains possession WR (exactly what we need) and a vet mentor
August 31st, 2010 at 11:21 am
We have to keep Reece, he continues to make big plays with Campbell in the passing game. He has nice hands down field for a fullback.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:17 am
Once he clears his suspension we MIGHT look at him if Reece is not getting the job done.
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Reece has useful hands out of the backfield, but he is not a LEAD BLOCKER
we’ll have 2 FB’s on this team. Cartwright might try and fill in for a short time if Reece struggles. Houston might even get some goal-line work
so you see us keeping Tonga for the first 2 weeks? or just keeping 1 FB on the roster? please clarify
August 31st, 2010 at 11:22 am
I’d rather they coax Laveranues Coles out of retirement than Muhammed.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:22 am
Bring back Ken Yon Rambo and Carlos Francis, by now they are both concidered VETS.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:22 am
# priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 10:53 am
Satele may or may nt be a long term answer if I can get a better player at C I’ll take him in a heartbeat but Veldheer aint that player……….period
It’s nothing personal against Veldheer I think he’s a fine player but people are trying to force this kid into something he’s not ready for.
Give him time to develope into an NFL calibre player and you might have something.
Let the coaches work with Veldheer and get him ready then maybe we’ll have something. He almost got DMC decapitated he can’t read blitzes. The OG’s were helping him almost every play. Give that kid TIME!!
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No argument from me here Priest. Just saying that Satele is not the answer. Veldheer isn’t ready right now, but he will surpass Delilah Satele by the end of this season.
Bottom line is we need O-line help badly. Center and Left Tackle.
Walker needs to be moved to Right Guard, he’s never had success at Tackle, here or at Buffalo. And Mario Henderson needs to be moved to Right tackle.
After the way he almost let J Campbell get decapitated, his QB bodyguard privileges need to be revoked.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:23 am
Q: Is Reece blocking well enough to be considered a legitimate starting candidate?
Cable: Well, I’ll say this: He just continues to get better.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:23 am
So they call Kole the moose?
Bring him in for Thursday’s game for a try out.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:20 am
where is this Kole guy at now? Was he in anyones camp?
Muhammad was a good WR back int he day but I think he is done.
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CJ: Kole Heck was in Seattle’s camp, just released yesterday
Moose isn’t a #1 WR, but he did well as a #2 for the Panthers last year opposite Steve Smith. he’s a move-the-chains possession WR (exactly what we need) and a vet mentor
August 31st, 2010 at 11:24 am
What is up with Nick Miller? He may not be as big but it seems like the guy always finds a way to make a play. Why not just keep him he can get open? I bet you he would kick @$$ on a bubble screen. Campbell can put the ball where it needs to go I think that changes the whole dynamic.
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CJ: don’t ask me that question man. I’m not a member of the Nick Miller fan club
the guy has done next to nothing outside of training camp, which we obviously didn’t SEE the past 2 years.
Cable didn’t mention him as a possible 4th or 5th WR. Watkins either, for that matter !?!?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:24 am
Raiders backfield keepers…
DMac, Bush, Bennett, Reece, Tonga
August 31st, 2010 at 11:24 am
Lawton is a better lead blocker than Reece. Reece is a better receiver.
Lawton will stick around because of his blocking and Reece will remain because of his pass catching.
Reece will also be used in more of an H back/backup TE role…especially now since Stewart was cut.
I think Tonga will be kept as well, until Lawton comes back. Then when Lawton comes back, Tonga will go to practice squad.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:25 am
Reece is getting every snap at FB with the 1s. There will not be a FB rotation. Tonga isn’t doing anything to merit a roster spot. There will never be 2 FBs active on Sunday, so we can roll with Reece and a practice squad FB.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:26 am
I don’t buy that Cartwright is more valuable because of special teams. Bennett is the better player. You keep the better player and let the surplus we have at LB and WR play special teams.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:27 am
Miller and Watkins = insurance salesmen.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:27 am
So they call Kole the moose?
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No. Moose = Muhsin Muhammad
good idea to sign Kole Heckendorf and have him face the team that just released him this Thursday (at home against Seattle)
Boller would have a new favorite target in the 4th!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:28 am
I’m with you on that one. Bennett is CLEARLY the better player.
Ford stepping up to claim the KR and PR job will go a long way towards getting Notwright off the squad.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:29 am
Lawton is a better lead blocker than Reece. Reece is a better receiver.
Lawton will stick around because of his blocking and Reece will remain because of his pass catching.
Reece will also be used in more of an H back/backup TE role…especially now since Stewart was cut.
I think Tonga will be kept as well, until Lawton comes back. Then when Lawton comes back, Tonga will go to practice squad.
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DKnight007: Agreed 100 percent
August 31st, 2010 at 11:29 am
WRs Chaz, Murphy, DHB, Figurs. I think there is a battle between JLH and FORD, with the best getting a roster spot. Will the Raiders keep 6 WRs?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:31 am
Notwright, LMAO!
The guy reminds me of someone, run up the middle for 1-2 yards. Can’t remember who though.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:32 am
J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:25 am
Reece is getting every snap at FB with the 1s. There will not be a FB rotation. Tonga isn’t doing anything to merit a roster spot. There will never be 2 FBs active on Sunday, so we can roll with Reece and a practice squad FB.
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Rolling with Reece as the full time fullback especially as a blocker would be futile.
Keep Reece and Lawton on the roster.
Then they can even use Reece as a receiver H back and TE, with Lawton in at the same time as a blocker to provide extra protection in certain passing situations.
They offense will need Lawtons blocking skills….without a doubt.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:33 am
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:03 am
It’s nothing personal against Veldheer I think he’s a fine player but people are trying to force this kid into something he’s not ready for.
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Son, let me remind you that the “people” to whom you refer are COACHES in the NFL, and they know a lot more about their specialty than you do. They feel Veldheer is ready to compete for a starting job, so lets just wait and see what they conclude before proclaiming Veldheer is not ready to unseat Satele…period.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:34 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:22 am
Bring back Ken Yon Rambo and Carlos Francis, by now they are both concidered VETS.
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How about Swervin Mervyn?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:35 am
whats the use of having a FB that can’t LEAD BLOCK for your RB’s or QB ???
Reece is a pass catcher. anybody surprised?
the dude was a WR/TE as well as FB …
August 31st, 2010 at 11:35 am
cUTS
Bodiford
Brennan
RICKY BROWN (goethel gets the nod)
Butler
Cartwright(not enough skill left— better RB’s on waiver wire to come)
Daniels
FIGURS(sucks)
Gunheim
Heard(fat and slow)
Hubbard
Loper
Moline
Nixon
Norris
Owens
Parsons
Porter
Smith
Thomas
Waters(sorry kid bad idea to try here)
Lawton(save the cash and maybe resign during season)
August 31st, 2010 at 11:35 am
Also with D-mac and Z. Miller there is no need to keep more then 4 WRs. I think there is going to be a suprizing cut at WR comming soon.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:36 am
WRs Chaz, Murphy, DHB, Figurs. I think there is a battle between JLH and FORD, with the best getting a roster spot.
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RNO: Figurs is a lock, but Higgins & Ford aren’t?
c’mon bro! you can’t be serious.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:37 am
Hey Rockstar: I just wanted to know your defense for your boy JLH fielding punts inside the 10 yard line. Those kind of mental mistakes may be overlooked for a rookie but not a guy in his 3rd year.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:31 am
Notwright, LMAO!
The guy reminds me of someone, run up the middle for 1-2 yards. Can’t remember who though.
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Lamont Jordan?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am
Nixon and Norris? I think they will try to keep one. Maybe on the practice squad.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:40 am
Christmas list:
-Logan Mankins
-Patrick Crayton
-Raiders 10-6
August 31st, 2010 at 11:41 am
HairyBush: I never said JLH was incapable of error, did I?
if he was, Jacoby Ford wouldn’t have been drafted for returner duties
Higgins (as a receiver) remains AT LEAST 3rd best WR on the team
August 31st, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:37 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:31 am
Notwright, LMAO!
The guy reminds me of someone, run up the middle for 1-2 yards. Can’t remember who though.
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Lamont Jordan?
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Jordan, Fargas I have no idea. I just know that after a few years of going to the home games I got very used to hearing over the loud speaker “Raiders run up the middle for 2 yards”. After about the 5th time I would give up on thje beer and switch to Vodka.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:43 am
I just wanted to know your defense for your boy JLH fielding punts inside the 10 yard line. Those kind of mental mistakes may be overlooked for a rookie but not a guy in his 3rd year.
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Nick Miller also blew it on the fair catch to end the game. I blame Fassel for the brain farts.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:43 am
Son, let me remind you that the “people” to whom you refer are COACHES in the NFL, and they know a lot more about their specialty than you do. They feel Veldheer is ready to compete for a starting job, so lets just wait and see what they conclude before proclaiming Veldheer is not ready to unseat Satele…period.
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Word.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:44 am
Keep Cartwright as a backup FB to Reece, and move Tonga to the Practice squad. Sometimes we only need 1,2 yards and he would be there on ST.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:46 am
So concidering that D-Mac and Z. Miller can be split out, which WRs do the Raiders Keep?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:47 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:41 am
HairyBush: I never said JLH was incapable of error, did I?
if he was, Jacoby Ford wouldn’t have been drafted for returner duties
Higgins (as a receiver) remains AT LEAST 3rd best WR on the team
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No you did not say he was incapable of error, but you do come to his defense quite often, like he was your first born. That is why I ask your defense, I guess I just am not seeing what your seeing in him. DHB & Murphy will be better this year.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:47 am
So concidering that D-Mac and Z. Miller can be split out, which WRs do the Raiders Keep?
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see post #421
August 31st, 2010 at 11:47 am
BHP on the radio, LMAO!
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He is right about the 49ers tho’. If they make it to the post season, they may regret playing so hard in the pre-season.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:48 am
DHB, Murphy, JLH, Figurs. Chaz IR, Ford PS
August 31st, 2010 at 11:50 am
Don’t agree RR, why would they keep 6 WRs when D-Mac and Z. Miller can be split out and are betterplayers then some of the 6 on your list.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
DHB and Murphy are the starters, DMAC in the slot and Crayton or some other veteran will be our 4th receiver.
I am not counting on Chaz. Ford is the return man. If JLH makes the team it will only be because of injury or not being able to pick up a vet to take his spot.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
If the Raiders go 5 wide “IF”
DHB, Murphy, JLH, Z. Miller, with D-mac starting in the back field and motioning out.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:53 am
Hope Tyvon Branch doesn’t lead all DB’s in tackles this year-if you catch my drift.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:53 am
I can’t see Chaz or Ford on the field on opening day.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:54 am
you do come to his defense quite often, like he was your first born. That is why I ask your defense, I guess I just am not seeing what your seeing in him.
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HairyBush: the 2008 version of JLH was the best PR we’ve had in the last 10 years
Having said that, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised or saddened to see him take on a bigger WR role and a lesser PR role (due to drafting Thec’s boy JFORD)
the biggest knock on the guy as a WR in this blog is that he played “scared” after a big hit and some question that he still hasn’t recovered … which has been completely debunked by his play last year with Gradkowski & Frye at QB, combined with his camp & preseason efforts so far this season
I don’t get the hate-fest with this kid. As my brother Jhill would say “we’ve got bigger fish to fry”
August 31st, 2010 at 11:55 am
Branch and McClain will make tons of tackles, I’m just worried where they will make them.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:57 am
Keep up the good work fellas.
Check ya Raider.
August 31st, 2010 at 11:58 am
Hey RR JLH is our 2nd-4th best WR (don’t really know) There is a spot for him on the team if he can play WR. It seems there are two many bodies there preventing him from doing that. Chaz, Murphy, DHB, Z. Miller. Not saying these guys are better, I’m saying the Raiders feel that way.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
whats the use of having a FB that can’t LEAD BLOCK for your RB’s or QB ???
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who was blocking for Bush on those nice runs?
Coach says his blocking is just fine and getting better.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
The best pass plays of the preseason have been to RBs on screens and that 1 pass to Murphy.
Just sayin.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Don’t agree RR, why would they keep 6 WRs when D-Mac and Z. Miller can be split out and are betterplayers then some of the 6 on your list.
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McFadden & Miller = RB & TE
neither is or will be a WR, even though they can line up there on occasion. “at times” to confuse the defense is the key here
both were on the squad last year and we kept how many WR’s ? DHB, Murphy, JLH, Schilens, NMiller, Watkins & Walker
7 WR’s last year so it would be outrageous to keep 6 this year? Chaz is hurt too, so I think six is reasonable, if not likely
August 31st, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I don’t get the hate-fest with this kid. As my brother Jhill would say “we’ve got bigger fish to fry”
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I totally agree there are much “bigger fish to fry”
I look at it this way- We have had previous discussions how I liked N. Miller and you liked JLH. I watch every game very closely and to tell you the truth N. Miller hasn’t really done jack with the exception of a touchdown that may or may not have been a good call. Since I haven’t seen anything in my eyes that would be condsidered promosing out of N. Mliller I have ended the love fest for him, at least until he gives me a reason to fall for him again. I watch JLH just as closely as I do N. Miller and every other Raider and say to myself why would someone stick there neck out for this dude? Phillip Buchanon was a good return man, but the key word is was. JLH was a good return man period
August 31st, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Trade DMAC for Phillip Buchanon!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I’m saying that if you keep 6 WRs then 2 will see the field in mabey 10 plays all season long. Why not just got 4 wide, put Chaz on IR and Ford on the PS.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:46 am
Re watching the game, and man, Reece needs to step it up in the blocking category.
Twice he let P Willis make plays behind the line without picking him up. DMC would have had some yardage on a play and the 2nd time he allowed a sack.
Inexcusable to not have a body on Willis at all times!
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Jhill: no response ???
August 31st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I feel like they are setting up to keep Reece as the lone FB. Tonga should slip to the practice squad, and Lawton will be available after his suspension if Reece regresses in his blocking…but for real, I think Reece is a huge part of their offensive game plan this season. That dude is a fantastic route-runner has great hands and amazing speed for a FB. When they sent him out against the Niners LB’s it was a complete mismatch. I have a feeling Hue Jackson has plans to create a lot of mismatches with Reece all season.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:29 am
WRs Chaz, Murphy, DHB, Figurs. I think there is a battle between JLH and FORD, with the best getting a roster spot. Will the Raiders keep 6 WRs?
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sorry JFORD, and JLH stick as WR’s…
JLH is no 3 for now until JFORD gets up to speed, both are makers…
figurs will be cut, NMILLER practice squad…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Perhaps they won’t keep as many wideouts on the roster this year because maybe they want an extra RB or LB or both. Just sayin (I would rather be deeper at postions that I know have more talent) Wideout is not one of our deep positions.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
put Chaz on IR and Ford on the PS.
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Thec: you reading this ???
August 31st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am
Nixon and Norris? I think they will try to keep one. Maybe on the practice squad.
…………..are you talking about richard nixon and chuck norris?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
2 wide personel DHB, Murphy, Miller, Bush/Dmac, Reece
3 wide DHB, Murphy, JLH, MIller/Reece, Bush/Dmac
4 wide DHB, Murphy, JLH, Miller, Dmac
5 wide same as above.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:48 am
DHB, Murphy, JLH, Figurs. Chaz IR, Ford PS
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You have JFORD on the PS?????
August 31st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I feel like they are setting up to keep Reece as the lone FB. Tonga should slip to the practice squad, and Lawton will be available after his suspension if Reece regresses in his blocking…but for real, I think Reece is a huge part of their offensive game plan this season. That dude is a fantastic route-runner has great hands and amazing speed for a FB. When they sent him out against the Niners LB’s it was a complete mismatch. I have a feeling Hue Jackson has plans to create a lot of mismatches with Reece all season.
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I have to admit Reese is looking pretty good. He may not be the best blocker, but he can keep some defenses guessing with his recieving skills IMO.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
figurs will be cut, NMILLER practice squad
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Agreed
August 31st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Keep Tonga and Reece at FB
Keep Miller, Myers and Reece at TE
Reece can play two positions so its not a wasted roster spot on two FBs.
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RNO
Yesterday Meyers was cut, today he’s on the roster. What happen in the last 24 hours for your change?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
At the very least Murphy, DHB, Chaz, Ford and JLH will stick. Watkins and Miller will fight for the last roster spot. If neither of them are impressive, then they’ll carry only five receivers. But with Chaz’s injury issues and the lack of a clear #1 WR, the Raiders will probably carry six.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Higgins (as a receiver) remains AT LEAST 3rd best WR on the team
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Chaz is still on the team, lol.
4th best, MAYBE!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Watkins, Miller and Figurs*
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
At the very least Murphy, DHB, Chaz, Ford and JLH will stick. Watkins and Miller will fight for the last roster spot. If neither of them are impressive, then they’ll carry only five receivers. But with Chaz’s injury issues and the lack of a clear #1 WR, the Raiders will probably carry six.
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May cut watkins and pickup a free agent….
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Perhaps they won’t keep as many wideouts on the roster this year because maybe they want an extra RB or LB or both. Just sayin (I would rather be deeper at postions that I know have more talent) Wideout is not one of our deep positions.
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WORD! Exactly what I’m saying! When JLH is your 2nd-4th best WR then you are in trouble. Who ever starts as our #1 WR this year would have trouble making any other teams #3 or 4 spot. Except Murphy if he learns to catch the damn ball!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Maybe the Raiders were hasty cutting Stewart after Meyers had 2 easy passes droped.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
dropped
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
J Hill Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Higgins (as a receiver) remains AT LEAST 3rd best WR on the team
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Chaz is still on the team, lol.
4th best, MAYBE!
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thats until JFORD passes them all…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
I am not a member of the Nick Miller fan club has no idea what this guy can do but what the heck can this Moose dude do if he is getting cut from camp to camp? I am just saying why bring in a new nobody. When you have a nobody who knows the play book trying to make the team? I mean we might as well keep Watkins before the Moose and I can’t stand Watkins.
They thought enough of Nick Miller to keep him around last year and not even put him on the scout team or injured reserve after he was hurt last year.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:24 am
What is up with Nick Miller? He may not be as big but it seems like the guy always finds a way to make a play. Why not just keep him he can get open? I bet you he would kick @$$ on a bubble screen. Campbell can put the ball where it needs to go I think that changes the whole dynamic.
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CJ: don’t ask me that question man. I’m not a member of the Nick Miller fan club
the guy has done next to nothing outside of training camp, which we obviously didn’t SEE the past 2 years.
Cable didn’t mention him as a possible 4th or 5th WR. Watkins either, for that matter !?!?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Those two P Wiilis plays behind the LOS was Veldheers not the FB the FB was playside P Willis can backside. That’s exactly what I mean most of just don’t what the heck your looking at. Those are the two plays Cable is talking about that he would like to have back. DMC was following the FB on a sweep to the right how could the FB pick up a blitz in the middle? lol what a joke.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Perhaps they won’t keep as many wideouts on the roster this year
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HB: what key WR’s haven’t been injured so far this offseason?
scratch Schilens, Heyward-Bey, Murphy & Ford off your list. those guys have all been banged up at some point this offseason in a soft “learning intensive” camp
we might need Higgins & Watkins (or Figurs) at some point this season …
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I don’t like JLH neither but you know what he is our third best WR behind Chaz who stays hurt and Murphy who is known to get a case of the drops. JLH has the best hands on the team behind Zach Miller so like it or not he stays.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
HairyBush Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Maybe the Raiders were hasty cutting Stewart after Meyers had 2 easy passes droped.
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Well, if dropped balls are a reason or lack of to be cut, what about Murphy, or Zach Miller.
Are you realy serious, dropped bals are players to be cut.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Figurs has been our best WR in the preseason late in the games. He can also return Punts and Kick offs. He might stick.
Murphy, DHB, JLH, Figurs…Chaz IR, Ford PS
everyone else…See YA!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
If the Raiders go 5 wide “IF”
DHB, Murphy, JLH, Z. Miller, with D-mac starting in the back field and motioning out.
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totally agree! why not use the 5 most talented receivers. (Crayton in place of Higgins)
August 31st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Twice he let P Willis make plays behind the line without picking him up. DMC would have had some yardage on a play and the 2nd time he allowed a sack.
Inexcusable to not have a body on Willis at all times!
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Jhill: no response ???
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First person I’ve read saying that. Coach and a lot of other folks seem to put the lack of Willis identification of Veldheer.
I’d have to say he’s mistaken.
One play I know he’s talking about is him and Henderson having the “option” to block Willis, and Reece continued out leading the run. Was pretty obvious to me that Henderson should have picked up Willis instead of doubling on a guy Gallery had under control.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
WR position is fine, however if you want to cut watkins and pick up a free agent that has been productive i might me down with that.
WR’s opening day;
CHAZ – questionable
DHB – Improving
MURPHY – Bad A$$
JLH – Maker
JFORD – Maker
???? – TBD…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Figurs has been our best WR in the preseason late in the games. He can also return Punts and Kick offs. He might stick.
Murphy, DHB, JLH, Figurs…Chaz IR, Ford PS
everyone else…See YA!
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You have JFORD on the practice squad? the kid that was having the best camp at Wr’s before his quad injury…
Really????
August 31st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
We also have a pass catching FB (Reece) and a pass catching TE (Miller) and two pass catching RBs (Bush and D-Mac)Bush is actualy the better of the two at catching the ball out of the backfield.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
HairyBush Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Maybe the Raiders were hasty cutting Stewart after Meyers had 2 easy passes droped.
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Well, if dropped balls are a reason or lack of to be cut, what about Murphy, or Zach Miller.
Are you realy serious, dropped bals are players to be cut.
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I don’t think he should be cut, It just makes you think if he has to fill in, can we depend on him? that’s all I’m saying.
I love Murphy and I agree he can work on the amount of drops. I think for the amount of passes that come Z. Miller’s way I can handle his ratio of catches to drops.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chaz will soon be receiving his injury settlement paperwork and check.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
figurs is gone…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I’d have to say he’s mistaken.
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DK007: Jhill & TJ obviously think you’re wrong regarding Reece’s blocking “skills” and what transpired against SF
any response?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Those two P Wiilis plays behind the LOS was Veldheers not the FB the FB was playside P Willis can backside. That’s exactly what I mean most of just don’t what the heck your looking at. Those are the two plays Cable is talking about that he would like to have back. DMC was following the FB on a sweep to the right how could the FB pick up a blitz in the middle? lol what a joke.
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Thats the job of the FB Priesst!
To back up the freakin Center on middle blitzes!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
We also have a pass catching FB (Reece) and a pass catching TE (Miller) and two pass catching RBs (Bush and D-Mac)Bush is actualy the better of the two at catching the ball out of the backfield.
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situational plays, down and distance….
We will carry 6…figurs will not be one, bank on it…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I’d say the Raiders should cut Bennett and/or Cartwright and pick up Derrick Ward who the Bucs just cut, but he simply hasn’t looked that good at all since leaving the Giants.
If he could play anywhere near as well as he did in NY, though, it could be worthwhile. Especially given Bush’s injury and DMAC’s inability to run through a tackle.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
You have JFORD on the practice squad? the kid that was having the best camp at Wr’s before his quad injury…
Really????
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Yep, really. Sorry, having a good camp is a bit diffrent then playing great in a game. He was in the game against the 9ers, caught 2 passes. the other 4 guys ahead of him have more expereance. DHB sticks because he is a 1rst rounder.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
You have JFORD on the practice squad? the kid that was having the best camp at Wr’s before his quad injury…
Really????
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Thec
Agree, very good camp for a WR, who was considered just a KO return specialist. He will get better, you can see the improvement since preseason game one.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chaz will soon be receiving his injury settlement paperwork and check
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wooo hoooooo!!!!!!!! yeah!!!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
TCMA: after seeing how well Bennett & Cartwright have played this preseason, some Raider fans might revolt if we replaced them with Fargas & Ward!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Ward came to camp out of shape and had a lack of motivation with the Bucs, no thank you.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Reece isn’t a real rockhead yet and may never be but he led MBush into the endzone on that first drive. He may not be a dominant blocker but he’s putting his hat on the right guy. He’s aware of things around him and he’s real threat with the ball. I’ll take him unless you can get me someone better.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
You have JFORD on the practice squad? the kid that was having the best camp at Wr’s before his quad injury…
Really????
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Yep, really. Sorry, having a good camp is a bit diffrent then playing great in a game. He was in the game against the 9ers, caught 2 passes. the other 4 guys ahead of him have more expereance. DHB sticks because he is a 1rst rounder.
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Put $100 on it now…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I’d have to say he’s mistaken.
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DK007: Jhill & TJ obviously think you’re wrong regarding Reece’s blocking “skills” and what transpired against SF
any response?
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Lawton is a better more consistent blocking FB at this point than Reece is.
Without a doubt!
Like I said, the team needs to keep Lawton around for consistent blocking, (cause god knows the offense is going to need it) and they are going to need Reece around for receiving skills, because the WR’s overall can’t be counted on to get the job done in a game in, game out basis.
Plus using Lawton as strictly a blocking FB and then at the same time having Reece in as a H Back/backup TE, will keep defenses off balance and confuse them a bit.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I’d say the Raiders should cut Bennett and/or Cartwright and pick up Derrick Ward who the Bucs just cut, but he simply hasn’t looked that good at all since leaving the Giants.
If he could play anywhere near as well as he did in NY, though, it could be worthwhile. Especially given Bush’s injury and DMAC’s inability to run through a tackle.
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I watched some Bucs preseason and Ward is a mess!
I would stick with Rock and Bennett
August 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I’d say the Raiders should cut Bennett and/or Cartwright and pick up Derrick Ward who the Bucs just cut, but he simply hasn’t looked that good at all since leaving the Giants.
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Assassin
they cut Bradshaw, because he came into camp out of shape and not motivated. Is this the type of guy the team needs right now?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
JFORD <——- Maker
RNO, if you feel that strongly, put an authentic raider jersey on th line. I would like a XXL white JFORD…
If JFORD goes PS, I will buy the color and player authentic of your choice….
August 31st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
The Raiders’ 31-24 upset of Tampa Bay in week 17 of 2008 turned out to be the final game for Jon Gruden as the Buccaneers’ head coach. Gruden, the former Raiders’ coach, was let go after seven seasons in Tampa.
source: desk calendar.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
what up DELL???? How are you today man???
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dknight you are dumb, it was a running play he was the lead blocker what about that don’t you get how can he pick up a backside run blitz?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I feel like they are setting up to keep Reece as the lone FB. Tonga should slip to the practice squad, and Lawton will be available after his suspension if Reece regresses in his blocking…but for real, I think Reece is a huge part of their offensive game plan this season. That dude is a fantastic route-runner has great hands and amazing speed for a FB. When they sent him out against the Niners LB’s it was a complete mismatch. I have a feeling Hue Jackson has plans to create a lot of mismatches with Reece all season.
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I hope so….because the offense needs another hidden pass catching weapon to catch defenses off guard.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I just have my doubts that Cartwright or Bennett could truly take over for Bush if he went down for an extended period of time.
Cartwright is a decent enough role player, and Bennett has showed flashes. But at 30 and 32, could these guys get through the entire season, against starting defenses? I don’t know. I hope so, because I don’t envision a scenario where Bush and DMac are healthy all season.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Thec
I’m doing great. I’ll back you up on the $100.00.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
JFORD <——- Maker
RNO, if you feel that strongly, put an authentic raider jersey on th line. I would like a XXL white JFORD…
If JFORD goes PS, I will buy the color and player authentic of your choice….
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Can I make a bet with someone? I want a home Nnamdi jersey, anyone can pick the bet.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Cable said Veldheer did “better than expected”, but Priest obviously knows more about evaluating Oline talent. Thus he is not ready to play center…period. Next subject.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
HairyBush Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
JFORD <——- Maker
RNO, if you feel that strongly, put an authentic raider jersey on th line. I would like a XXL white JFORD…
If JFORD goes PS, I will buy the color and player authentic of your choice….
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Can I make a bet with someone? I want a home Nnamdi jersey, anyone can pick the bet.
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ROFLMAO……
August 31st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Raiders Fact
On November 17, 1968: The Raiders won the “Heidi Game,” beating the Jets 43-32 with 2 touchdowns in the final 42 seconds – which the National Television audience missed when the network switched to the scheduled airing of the children’s movie.
source: desk calendar.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dknight you are dumb, it was a running play he was the lead blocker what about that don’t you get how can he pick up a backside run blitz?
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LOL…I’m dumb??
Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black??
Don’t waste my time Priesst.
It’s been proven time and time again, you are in another world, that is warped. ha ha haaaaaaa
August 31st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
The desk calendar GETS IT.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Forget it you’re right DKnight he should’ve split himself in two lead the way into the hole and picked up the backside blitz all in one play. I forgot the FB is supposed to be all seeing all knowing.
In your world that is……
August 31st, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Put $100 on it now…
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How do you do that on the net? Anyways I’m saying I’m not an expert. My football knowledge is coaching OL and DL at the HS level. I do watch alot of College and NFL ball, and Ford has shown me nothing. Maybe if I was watching the camp where he looked good I would be singing a diffrent tune. My reasons are this..
DHB, 1rst rounder
Murphy, best WR we got
JLH, versitality and most experiance with Raiders
Chaz, The Raiders still see him as our #1
Figurs, looked better then Ford in the preseaon GAMES.
anyways I’ve got to run, been nice yakin at you all.
See Ya Nation!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I for one want to see Veldheer at C, but we also need to play the best 5 blockers and pass protectors. Satele at C makes sense until we groom either V, or draft someone. V can be moved to another line postion.
Satele is at least servicable for now…The rookie played good in my opinion and will get better…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dknight you are dumb, it was a running play he was the lead blocker what about that don’t you get how can he pick up a backside run blitz?
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priest
As usual calling the Raider Nation in here dumb, or moron, or stupiid. You have no wiggle room bro, your dfense of Jaboob will go down in history on this blog forever.
You aren’t always right…period.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RNOraiderFan, take care man catch you ltr…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I can picture Antonio Bryant and Chaz Schilens playing a lot of Madden together this season.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
See ya Thec, If Ford contributes this year, and you are at a home game, I will buy the beer. Deal?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Question:
Assuming both stayed healthy, who would be playing better at the center position by week 17? Veldheer or Satele?
If Veldheer is already this good after a month or so, imagine how much better he will get with playing time. Sawtelle is as good as he is going to get.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
RRRRAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDEEEEERRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
See ya Thec, If Ford contributes this year, and you are at a home game, I will buy the beer. Deal?
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I dont drink however you could buy me a bottled water…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Bottled water, soda, polish dog(but you”ll be sick later) what ever you want….
OUT.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
LTR Bro…
August 31st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Thec07,
After you drink you soda, water or beer, just make sure you don’t take your piss at halftime at the Coliseum!
I recommend doing what you gotta do in the 2nd or 3rd quarters!
Those bathrooms are a freakin madhouse pigsty!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:40 pm
The comments on V or Satelle in my opinion, aren’t the physicality or athletic ability of both players, it boils down to experience.
V, needs to watch film and develop better technique. V needs to watch film to call the protections for the line and that’s not easy. The defensive schemes vary and have many multiple looks.
My personal opinion is V, on the P Willis gap blitz was V responsibility. As the center, you must protect the A gap first , before you assist either guard in blocking.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:43 pm
My WR analysis:
Schilens-I think the coaching staff gives him one more season before the thought of cutting him even crosses their minds.
DHB-Allen Davis Scholarship and James Jett Grant recipient, he aint going nowhere for awhile.
Murphy-got the job done as a rookie several times last year.
JLH-Sadly, he is the vet WR of this group, he is staying.
Ford-He was a 4th rounder, has wheels and showed enough in camp to scare the coaches away from risking him on the practice squad, plus they are desperate for special teams help.
Watkins-has clung on with this team for two years, but has done nothing to endear himself to fans or management when he is given a chance. Cut him!
Miller-battled through injuries and has looked OK in camp as only a 2nd year guy, he should be fighting with Figurs for a spot
Figurs-I have not seen him do anything as a WR, but Cable seems to talk him up and he might be our best/only KR option once the dust settles on the roster moves.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I think they need to move Veldheer to the starting RT position.
Or move him to LT and Mario to RT, and move Walker to RG.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
How do I sign up for the Sam Williams scholarship?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Well Dell I’m not here to always be right, I’m not perfect but basic football is basic football either you know it or you don’t anybody can be wrong about specific players but when you don’t even know a running play from a pass protection. I’m sorry but that’s inexcusable I don’;twhat I said about Russell prospects we’re talking BASIC FOOTBALL……….period
Are you perfect Raider Dell?
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Raiders Fact
On November 17, 1968: The Raiders won the “Heidi Game,” beating the Jets 43-32 with 2 touchdowns in the final 42 seconds – which the National Television audience missed when the network switched to the scheduled airing of the children’s movie.
source: desk calendar.
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True. I was there. Actually the first of 2 touchdown scores was made with 1:05 (min/sec) left. Great finish. You really had to be there to experience that. Take that Namath!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
funniest thing I have ever seen in the coliseum restrooms, was an entire mensroom of Raider fans kicking and banging on the door of one of the toilet stalls screaming “who takes a sh*t at a Raider game, you don’t sh*t during Raider games.” There was literally 30 grown men yelling this at some poor fool taking a crap.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
I also want to see how Jared adjusts to A gap blitz pickup in this last preseason game with the 1’s.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
People keep saying to keep another FB until Lawtons suspension is up…but i believe he has to be on a roster to serve the suspension.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I think they need to move Veldheer to the starting RT position.
Or move him to LT and Mario to RT, and move Walker to RG.
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DKnight007
Too late, all of the line adjustments were done in OTA’S, it is what it is, as of the current season upon us.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
If anyne can’t distinquish a running play from pass protection they should be calling a HOF owner stupid and dumb.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
funniest thing I have ever seen in the coliseum restrooms, was an entire mensroom of Raider fans kicking and banging on the door of one of the toilet stalls screaming “who takes a sh*t at a Raider game, you don’t sh*t during Raider games.” There was literally 30 grown men yelling this at some poor fool taking a crap.
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LOL!
Funny thing is, that guy in the stall was either talking a crap or puking!
I learned my lesson years ago about not going to take a piss at the games at halftime.
The lines are crazy long and the people start acting like even more looney! Some of those peeps even start pissing in the sinks!
August 31st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
My personal opinion is V, on the P Willis gap blitz was V responsibility. As the center, you must protect the A gap first , before you assist either guard in blocking.
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No one is disputing that, or I doubt many people were expecting a flawless game from him in terms on line calls.
Good Afternoon, by the way!
What we DID see was a guy who can actually block someone. Not someone who gets rag dolled or stands around looking for someone to block. Hat on man all the time! JC and Grads has ZERO pressure up the middle and could actually step up.
With that said, Satele is not THAT bad and the bigger need for Veldheer at this junction is at OT.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I think they need to move Veldheer to the starting RT position.
Or move him to LT and Mario to RT, and move Walker to RG.
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DKnight007
Too late, all of the line adjustments were done in OTA’S, it is what it is, as of the current season upon us
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Agreed, it is too late unfortunately.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Well Dell I’m not here to always be right, I’m not perfect but basic football is basic football either you know it or you don’t anybody can be wrong about specific players but when you don’t even know a running play from a pass protection. I’m sorry but that’s inexcusable I don’;twhat I said about Russell prospects we’re talking BASIC FOOTBALL……….period
Are you perfect Raider Dell?
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No Priest, I’m not perfect. Instead of calling Raider comments in this blog stupid, and you have used moron, and dumb. Argue your point to educate, and stop trying to be the master on this blog.
You have told us many times, how you have talked to coaches or players, BFD. We can see and have opinions too, and whose to say those guys know what’s going on. Do they have access to Davis?
We all have opinions and you seem to think only yours are…right.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Also people keep putting talented players on the practice squad…..they have to clear waivers in order to be put there. Ford would get instantly picked up….i think that Norris and Cooper would as well.
For those of you that dont want Figurs on the team i hope you realize that its either him or Cartwright due to the lack of faith in JLH and the cautious approach taken with the development of Ford. Figurs has also made a few nice plays and had some good practices.
August 31st, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Priest could be right from here on until eternity, and his opinion should still be taken with a grain of salt being the endless hours he logged defending Jamarcus and calling us everything from morons-to-know nothings about the game of football-to-racists.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Interesting opinion article by Lombardi in NFLN. I know some of you, maybe all of you, can’t stand the guy, but his article brings you in to the logic and thinking how the 53 man roster shapes up.
My personal opinion is, the Raider Organization knows who will make the first 50 slots, it’s the last three that will play out Thursday night.
Example, Tony Stewart getting cut. How many of us saw that one!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
severe:
Agreed
Cartwright vs Figurs may be the last spot on the 53
Bush & Chaz are both hurt. Chaz out longer – advantage Yamon
August 31st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Watching the sack by Laboy i saw that Gallery was also partly responsible. He had gotten beaten pretty badly as well which prevented Campbell from being able to step up and elude the pressure.
Cable is being extremely generous in his grading of Veldheer. In two stints at center he has allowed 2 sacks….one of those being against the second team defense. He also missed blitz calls leading to another sack and has not gotten to the second level on run plays or opened any holes. Satele has given up a sack but otherwise has been solid and has consistently gotten to the second level on run plays and screens. Look at the difference in effectiveness of bush from the first 2 games to this last one.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
JHill
You guy’s have selective memories, when Cambell hurt his wrist it was due to an inside rush. Whe DMC went dwn inside blitz. The kids had an uneven game but for his first start I thought he did better than I thought he would. But it’s easy to see he has a long way to go. You’ll get Campbell killed if that kid can’t see and anticipate a simple Agap blitz. Right now he can’t that is not a knock on him he’s been playing C for 2 months it’smuch better than one would expect. But it not nearly up to standard. That was basic stuff and he whiffed bigtime. He wasn’t even engaged in a block he just didn’t notice it.
People think I’m saying this stuff because I don’t like the kid and that aint it at all. He’s NOT ready yet.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
JFB: I heard the donks cut Javier Arenas’ big brother (alphonso smith)
Arenas/Smith 2.0 = cut next offseason?
August 31st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
RRS
The roster war will be Friday, Ok.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Later Nation!!
I’m off to read “FOOTBALL FOR DUMMIES” I want to be like…
August 31st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Priest,
Look man, you have your opinion, I have mine. I’ve watched the game over and over. The play where Campbell hurt his wrist had nothing to do with Veldheer. Willis was running right behind Walker who had his back turned.
I said the DMac play was Veldheers fault!
Veldheer missing an A gap block is somehthing he can definitely learn from. No worse tha Satele getting rag dolled, JC getting hit and the ensuing INT is what I’m saying.
What does NOT ready mean, mistake free?
The veteran starter is NOT ready either then!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
It’s almost like you guy’s use smoke and mirrors to watch games. The reason Grads had more time in the second half is because is because when we hit that big play to Murphy they stopped blitzing. We burned them on an all out blitz. After that they backed off and P Willis maybe blitz once more the rest of the game.
They were rushing 3-4 players that’s why the prtection got much better.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Rockstar,
I hear that Arenas will be returning kicks in KC, ahead of McCluster.
Doubt he gets cut anytime soon.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
So are you saying the 49ers feared blitzing Bruce more than Campbell?
Campbell is a guy who has the rap of someone who takes too many sacks. So far, seems about right.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Crap, I gotta run, off to beautiful Taos!!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I think we all know who the real ‘Jock Sniffer’ is…
and it isn’t Bruce ALMIGHTY!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Priest,
Totally agree, the guy isnt ready. Especially when it comes to having to handle some of the better NT’s in the league. Just think of how badly he would have looked if he had to handle Franklin in the middle and not RJF.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Not ready means he is NOT a quality starter not even close. Maybe later in the season if pressed into service he might help somewhere but he didn’t thrill me at all. IMO Satele was much better.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
BTW: ‘SCOUT’(?)….
Murphy’s big play came on a corner BLITZ.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Priest,
Right back at ya.
The protection was outstanding on that 3rd down play where Meyers dropped the ball.
The protection was outstanding on the pass to McFadden for 1st dn that was called back due to Murphy lining up wrong.
The protection was REALLY good on the first drive to a TD.
Smoke and mirrors????
LMFAO!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
People think I’m saying this stuff because I don’t like the kid and that aint it at all. He’s NOT ready yet.
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Excuse us if we wait for the professionals to make that decision. You’ve been wrong before. Spectacularly. And often.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Severeraiderz you can’t tell these guy’s anything Franklin would’ve used that kid for a turnstile.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
What do you guys think our record will be this year?? ill say 7-9 if we get lucky 8-8
August 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Spectacularly.
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LOL!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Jhill: got time to give TJ a film session?
lessons start at $20 per hour, right?
August 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Franklin would’ve used that kid for a turnstile.
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Satele too, for that matter
August 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
People think I’m saying this stuff because I don’t like the kid.
Severeraiderz you can’t tell these guy’s anything Franklin would’ve used that kid for a turnstile.
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August 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Franklin would’ve used that kid for a turnstile.
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The MAIN point YOU are missing is that Satele would have been that same turnstile, lol!
Just like last year’s preseason game. As a matter of fact, as a comparison, Satele didn’t know the line calls then either and looked MUCH worse than Veldheer did this past weekend.
And don’t act like you don’t remember Satele getting tossed around!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
BTW: ‘SCOUT’(?)….
Murphy’s big play came on a corner BLITZ.
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A lot of big plays come on blitzes. That’s why it breaks me up every time fans here scream “blitz, blitz, blitz.” Any decent Q will pick a blitz to pieces, and the results are normally big plays if not TD’s.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
It’s a moot point for me because the state of our Oline has me in agreement that Satele should start at C.
Satele is a better C than Walker and Henderson are OTs, so Veldheer is needed at OT like NOW!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Thats why you have to use diffrent blitze packages and come at them from diffrent angles and fake the blitz when your really not blitzing
August 31st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Veldheer @ Center speaks volumes about the strength of the position for the Raiders.
Weak Starter
Weak Backup
Not good.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
For everyone supporting Veldheer as a better player than Satele at C, please explain the difference in the ability of Bush to find yards in the running game and the difference in the effectivness of ur screen game. Veldheer does not finish his blocks in the running game or get to the second level in the run game or on screen passes. He is not ready and if had to play a legitimate starter at NT in the NFL he would have been overpowered and had an even tougher time. In two stints at C he has accounted for at least 3 sacks!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Kell: fact of the matter is, we’re weak on the interior of BOTH lines, which means we won’t be able to run the ball or stop the run … which means we will not be in the playoffs this year, even despite a weak schedule
August 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Yeah I’ll agree there was some positives more than I would’ve guessed but one drive and a few plays doesn’t a season make. Give the kid time and we’ll see where we are. I saw promise but I also saw some rookie errors and erors that a guy who’s playd that position even if he is a rookie wouldn’t make. If we were talking a great young C my tone would be very different but we aint……period
August 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Why dont we sign Mawae??
August 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
I too would much rather see Veldheer honing his skills at OT.
He’s looked good there, and it’s his natural position.
And, it’s not like the Raiders are set at OT for years to come, is it?
August 31st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Another new guy here.
I had to sign up because you all have alot of good info on who and what to watch for. Thanks for that.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Jhill Satele has played Franklin and the best NT in the business he’s seen them and held his own wether you realize that or not he’s DONE IT! Veldheer HASN’T!!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
The screen game can be even more effective if freakin guys like Satele, Carlisle and Gallery actually engage someone in the 2nd or 3rd level instead of just blindly diving and completely missing a body.
Sheesh….
August 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Veldheer played LT in college. 4 year starter at Hillsdale and gave up ZERO sacks
gets drafted by Cable and thrown into the mix at Tackle and Center.
Isn’t it hard enough to make the transition from small school college LT to NFL LT? and he’s gotta play Center too, something he’s never done before? He started 1 preseason game and you guys are crapping all over him, ignoring the fact that he’s already ahead of Chris Morris, whose been here since 2006. and Veldheer’s debut was better than expected, according to “OL guru” Cable – which means he’s a work in progress, and they are not giving up on him. He’s even competing with Satele – pushing for a starting job. More than we can say about vets Barnes, Lopers, Pears or fellow rookie BCampbell!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
JFB
wrong about JC. He has taken sacks due to the fact that he has had a porous OL and last year absolutely no running game. He has a rep for not taking risks and checking down too often because of that bad OL and the fact that he has never been comfortable in an offense.
Grads benefitted from a blown coverage from a zone blitz that accounted for 74 of his passing yards and 1 of his TD’s. Take away that play and he didnt fare much better than JC.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Satele has played Franklin and the best NT in the business he’s seen them and held his own wether you realize that or not he’s DONE IT!
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link? source?
August 31st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
# GANJApassion Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Why dont we sign Mawae??
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Because Satele was rated higher than him last year. Just ask Vegas Raider.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
If we were talking a great young C my tone would be very different but we aint……period
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Now I’m REALLY rooting for the kid.
If Veldheer had missed all of camp with a bum knee and then Priest had a really good talk with his dad, I bet TJ would proclaim Veldheer the next Dave Dalby.
BTW Priest, the Raider COACHES disagree with you about Satele’s play…we’ll trust them over you, OK?
August 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Because Satele was rated higher than him last year. Just ask Vegas Raider.
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puhleeze don’t get JFB started with that nonsense again!
August 31st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
The screen game can be even more effective if freakin guys like Satele, Carlisle and Gallery actually engage someone in the 2nd or 3rd level instead of just blindly diving and completely missing a body.
Sheesh….
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If you go to the Chicago game tape, on the big play screen to the FB, Satele acts like he falls down (a classic screen play maneuver) and then levels one of the Chicago players which results in the big gain. Satele might not be Matt Birk or Nick Mangold, but he is a better player than most of you guys give him credit for. As for the Henderson brothers……….
August 31st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Because Satele was rated higher than him last year. Just ask Vegas Raider.
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puhleeze don’t get JFB started with that nonsense again!
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Just saying.
August 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Satele might not be Matt Birk or Nick Mangold
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JW: he’s not even Jake Grove or Jeremy Newberry!
and LT’s Harris & Henderson weren’t even Barry Sims!
let’s just hope Langston Walker is better than Cornell Green was and Cooper Carlisle regains 2007 form
August 31st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
new post
*fart*
August 31st, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Remember the Oline has year was in a complete state of flux. Only two guys started every game and our best lineman didn’t even play half the season and neither of those starters were particularly stellar. You have to really know your stuff to accurately evaluate a center in that kind of environment.
August 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I would like to see two other another priorities put in there as well Coach Cable:
On defense….. maintaining GAP control and attacking and filling the gap by the D-Line and LB’s.
And on offense, Center and Fullback Blitz pickups!
August 31st, 2010 at 6:24 pm
[...] going to talk about injuries, or where anyone’s at or what’s going on with them,” Cable told the Oakland [...]