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Update: Raiders add Brown to cut list

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 4th, 2010 at 6:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Update: The Raiders added the name of Stevie Brown to the list on Raiders.com of players who were waived earlier today.

Note: The Raiders have made no mention of waiving Stevie Brown on their transactions page, but have removed him from their 53-man roster on Raiders.com

No word from the Raiders yet, but colleague Steve Corkran got a look at the official NFL personnel notice, and safety Stevie Brown was the last Raiders cut to make it to the minimum of 53 players.

Two thoughts:
– Since Andy Slater, the Florida talk show host who has been tweeting about this all day, was right about Brown, then there’s a good chance he’s also right that Al Davis overruled the coaching staff in their wish to cut Mike Mitchell instead.

– Tom Cable has been fond of saying, “It’s my team” since training camp opened. But we all know it’s not. It’s Al Davis’ team, and if Mitchell becomes a player and Brown never amounts to anything, then he knows what he’s doing.

Those in the coaching staff weren’t the only ones enamored with Brown. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said during training camp he thought so much of Brown he would personally lobby for his inclusion on the roster if necessary.

Brown can still be added to the Raiders practice squad if he’s not claimed by another team.

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154 Responses to “Update: Raiders add Brown to cut list”

  1. Kirk Says:

    first

  2. Kirk Says:

    We should have kept Brown and cut someone else.

  3. SnakeStabler Says:

    Should of cut Hiram Eugene!!! Could have saved
    Brown and Mitchell!!

  4. RaiderLen Says:

    Mabey He’ll clear waivers.

  5. TICK Toc , Here comes the cuts (merged), OFFICIAL CUT THREAD! - Page 19 - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

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  6. chappy23us Says:

    Dirt nap for Al!

  7. Raider75 Says:

    Sounds true to me.

    Al will start HIS guys on HIS team, PERIOD.

  8. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    September 4th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    Also why just cut Mitchell when we can easily get at least a 5th for him.

    ********************************

    LMAO!!

    Guys aren’t worth anything right now.

    Patrick Crayton for a 7th rounder. Nothing for TJ Housh.

  9. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Fire Cable, he should have told Al to keep both Mitchell & Brown.

  10. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    If Al cut K Wimbley to save Sam Williams then I would be upset.

    This isn’t that big of a deal.

    Mitchell can play, we’ll see if Stevie can down the road.

  11. RaiderRetribution Says:

    If the coaching staff does not know how to coach a rookie with the talent and heart of Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell then they should not be on the Raider coaching staff.

  12. EMRaiders Says:

    Tough call. MM has become somewhat of a fan fav. But Stevie has shown promise and made more plays than MM has this preseason. decisions decisions…

    The only problem I see here is if AD is holding on to MM solely because of image. Going against what the coaches want, once again, and doing something that could derail whatever good chemistry this team had going. There always has to be drama in Oakland.

    No need to say this, but the sensible move would be to keep them both and letting Eugene go.

  13. raiders22 Says:

    guys its very doubtful any1 claims stevie brown. he made a hail mary int, a thrown right at, and a punt returner muffed a punt. all of which were against scrubs. not to mention he played lb at michigan.
    hes practice squad material, with future potential.
    not a big deal

  14. S.Brown cut... - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

    [...] cut… Brown on official NFL personnel notice – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the… No word from the Raiders yet, but colleague Steve Corkran got a look at the official NFL personnel [...]

  15. GG Says:

    I blame the coaches on this. As if Eugene makes it above Brown and Mitchell. Al was half-right, the coaches half-right. But both wrong re: Eugene.

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Who would have thought Andy Slater would play a role today,lol?

    Only the Raiders!!!

    Start Bruce

  17. Just Win Says:

    Where’s Corkran with the complete list? Come on Steve, pony up the list!

  18. RNOraiderFan Says:

    If the coaching staff does not know how to coach a rookie with the talent and heart of Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell then they should not be on the Raider coaching staff.
    ******************************************************
    Exellent post! The Raiders have lacked heart and determination on the roster for a while now.

  19. VanHeathen Says:

    Bigger question for me is why is MM34 in the coaches doghouse…hope Brown clears waivers and gets to Practice squad.

  20. bcz24 Says:

    The raiders coaching staff is almost obligated to come out and publicly support MM34 and discredit this andy guy.

  21. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Why are Figurs, Eugene, Carslie, Williams on the team still, I guess performance On The Field does not account for anything.

    Just like Rankin in years past light it up in preseason, get cut twice, how many 1000 yard rushers have we had.

  22. Just Win Says:

    The chances of Brown clearing waivers is much much higher than Mitchell clearing waivers. Waiving bye to Brown for a few hours Might not be the dumbest move they ever made.

  23. GG Says:

    Why take the risk on Brown when Eugene is such a no-brainer cut and no team would claim him off waivers. Whereas there’s always the risk Brown will.

  24. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Mike Mitchell is a great playuh. Get over it.

    -A.D.

  25. raiders22 Says:

    well said just win.

  26. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Figurs, Eugene no good Carslie is our starting RG or a good back up. Williams is one of our best special teamers.

  27. bcz24 Says:

    Cut Figurs and claim TJ

  28. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I would have kept Brown over Johnson as well, even though I am a fan of Johnson, who is a great tackling CB, bujust wonder does he still have his closing speed.

  29. ArmChair GM Says:

    After that hit Mitchell put on that Seahawks running back on Saturday, you’d think he would get a little more respect around here.

  30. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Brown better survive the waiver wire and make the practice squad.

  31. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I thought Yawn-mon Figurs was terrible on his returns.

    All speed and no wiggle. Let Nick Miller give it a shot.

    Pick up a WR and drop Yawn-mon.

  32. bcz24 Says:

    I think CJ’s hammy was still an issue Thursday but maybe he felt if he didnt play he would get cut. He looked terrible but it seemed to be an abberation, he’s not THAT bad.

  33. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Everytime I see the name Yamon it reminds of the In Living Colour skit on the Jamaican family.

    “How many job you have? Three job!!”

  34. EMRaiders Says:

    You know, good point on the odds in the waiver claims for each guy. We have probably seen a little more with pink colored glasses about Brown than other teams because he was making plays that counted against bench warmers and during preseason. Plus he probably won our hearts due to his status in the draft and his play making ability. Not dogging the guy, because I did like him, but it is true the odds are pretty good he will clear waivers. hopefully.

  35. GG Says:

    The next Hard Knocks should be the Raiduhs

  36. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Until/unless we know what really happened and why….how about trusting our owner and coaches over a pizz=ant press ho.

  37. 408RAIDER Says:

    Andy Slater = AssHat

  38. bcz24 Says:

    I don’t see anything positive that yamon brings to the team

  39. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Yamon….you no good lazy bum!

  40. priesttj Says:

    Guy’s there is no reason for all this panic now most teams cuts ae honored by allwing them the opportunity to put the player on the practice squad. There obviously no gaurantees but he could still make the PS. Just a couple of hours ago most on here were doing cartwheels at the thought of Micthell starting now this comes out and everybody is a Brown fan.

    The coaches always know way more than we do that’s why I don’t second guess them unless there is obvious reason to. Let the process play itself out. Steve Brown is a virtual unknown around the league except for the few teams we played. Sure scouts are aware of him but very few GM’s. Several other known quantities will be picked up lng before he will.

    Let the process play itself out.

  41. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Was that you 408, giving him shat on twitter?

  42. bcz24 Says:

    CLAIM TJ!

  43. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    What I worry here is that we’ve got a case of two separate scholarships butting heads here.

    The sensible thing to do would have been to keep Mitchell AND Brown and cut Hiram Eugene who is worthless. But it seems that Eugene is as much on a Cable scholarship as Mitchell is on a Davis one.

    That’s worst case scenario, of course. While this radio guy in Florida has gained some credibility because Brown was indeed let go, the part of the report that still stinks to high heaven is all the coaching staff’s supposed negativity about Mitchell.

    I have not heard from a single one of the guys who regularly cover the Raiders–not Jerry, not Corkran, not Tafur, not Poole, not Ratto, not Kawakami–that the coaching staff had those kinds of bad feelings toward Mitchell.

  44. Just Win Says:

    I’m a big Stevie Brown guy but let’s be honest here, he’s a 7th round project learning a new position at the NFL level. He was really drafted for ST’s, and sure he played well, but he played well against scrubs, not against NFL ones. Welcome to the practice squad Stevie.

  45. priesttj Says:

    Just win good post#22

  46. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    even if Brown goes to practice squad, he can still get snatched off of it also.

  47. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Mitchell was kept just b/c Al doesn’t want Maylock and Co to say, “told you.” Of course, now Al looks double bad b/c he is an NFL owner and needs to be above that.

    MM play has not been good. Oh yeah his hit was fun but he lost the Sea game if a penalty didn’t save him. SFs passing TD he was standing behind the WR in the endzone covering nothing. He can’t cover. That’s not a good DB.

    Hope Brown makes it to the practice squad.

    First bad move of 2010. Not a big deal but disappointing.

  48. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Always said MM34 is strictly a downhill player.

    Looks completely lost and very stiff in space.

  49. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    This episode confirms that the old man’s ego is as intact as ever, not that there was ever much doubt. Now you take that and figure out just how bad JaDrank was that even Al Davis was able to swallow his pride and let him go.

  50. priesttj Says:

    That’s why I never take my stance so seriously over what the coaches think because they know, we don’t. When they keep a player there is a solid reason that may not be obvious to us but it makes great sense to them.

  51. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    During the broadcast….Plunk blamed 55 for not dropping deep enough on the pass play. I won’t judge MM as a total package by what you saw on one play.

  52. RNOraiderFan Says:

    true 55 has had his probs this preseason.

  53. bcz24 Says:

    MM34 is not a coverage guy, he’s almost more of a hybrid linebacker. He is a blitzer and a sure tackler.

  54. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    actually the Raiders should claim DT Junior Siavii from the Cowboys, who just cut him – this dude is a monster, only in league since 2004, mainly a backup, not much wear on tires and probably has a lot more gas in tank than John Henderson.

  55. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Junior Siavii!!!

    Butte College Roadrunner!! Played on the same team as Aaron Rodgers, and was a known nucklehead in Chico.

    How he ever got into Oregon, even for one year, is beyond me.

  56. chargerschoke Says:

    WTF! Hope Brown wants to be on the Raiders practice squad, with the film he’got he could sign on with any of the teams in the midwest or east , closer to home for him!

  57. EMRaiders Says:

    I think Eugene had a big hit on someone on the last game too, but he still should’ve been let go. Yamon better be the next Jerry Rice. Otherwise I don’t know why he’s around. Nick Miller made it, so I’m really happy about that. Now if we pick up TJ and drop Miller, than I’ll be really mad!

  58. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Biggest prob I have personally made note of with 55 is lack of fire and side to side pursuit of plays. Appears rather lackadaisical if the run is not right at him…

    Hope to God I am wrong and/or he gets better with experience. I like the Junior Seau/Ray Lewis type of MLB who attack up the gaps AND side-to-side on stretch plays. Don’t just trot toward the play and leave it up to everyone else.

  59. priesttj Says:

    Now we know why Mitchell never threatened to start, and while many in here hate Eugene even Huff as a safety the coaches know what they’re doing.

    Keep this in mind Stevie Brown has never played a down against starters so while somethink the world of this kid who knows what he can really do until he does it. Can he face Peyton Manning? Phillip Rivers and the like and come up big, who knows?

  60. Coach on Wheels Says:

    SinceFrankYouellField Says:
    September 4th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    During the broadcast….Plunk blamed 55 for not dropping deep enough on the pass play. I won’t judge MM as a total package by what you saw on one play.

    ——————————–
    Mitchell was the SS. And I pointed out 2 would-be TDs he gave up, not one play. The guy can’t cover. As a SS anybody see him covering Gates or a slot WR? No way.

  61. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Keep this in mind Stevie Brown has never played a down against starters so while somethink the world of this kid who knows what he can really do until he does it. Can he face Peyton Manning? Phillip Rivers and the like and come up big, who knows?
    ——————————–

    This is a fair point, but I wonder…we already know Hiram Eugene can’t. So why not cut him and find out if Brown can?

  62. 408RAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 4th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Was that you 408, giving him shat on twitter?
    ————–

    Haha I was a lil bit this morning.. There is hella Nation on twitter..

  63. chargerschoke Says:

    Mike Mitchell is a hitter but Brown is faster, a ball hawk, and played LB his last year in college!

  64. priesttj Says:

    We better not drop Nicky Miller or I’ll have a tantrum. Dammit don’t think about it. That’s my favorite player young player.

  65. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Biggest prob I have personally made note of with 55 is lack of fire and side to side pursuit of plays. Appears rather lackadaisical if the run is not right at him…
    *****************************************************
    I watched the BCS title game after we drafted him and saw the same thing, IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! I saw the same thing in the preseason. I hope we are both wrong!

  66. chargerschoke Says:

    Well I remember 2 years ago Hiram was the only one doing any hitting against the dolts, he hit LT so hard that LT had to leave the game for a couple of series!

  67. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    COW – Point well taken and very true. I simply wanted to make the point that the particular play mentioned wasn’t MM’s sole fault. Poor coverage by him and two other players.

    I would still like to see what MM might do with more coaching and experience re pass coverage. He is certainly fast enough and powerful enough to cover a good TE.

    And I enjoyed his hit enough in the Seattle game that I would like to see him improve in other areas just so I could get to see more of them. Football IS supposed to be entertainment!!!!!

  68. GG Says:

    Mitchell can tackle but cant cover, Eugene can cover but cant tackle, Brown can do both and is developing and young.

    And STs is all about tackling too, and Mitchell could’ve easily served that role ahead of Eugene, who cant tackle.

    Brown > Mitchell > Eugene when it came to cutting down to 53, not the reverse of that.

  69. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

  70. GG Says:

    Eugene can’t tackle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvKnXWWccR8

  71. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    408! Sup wit ya playa?

  72. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    RNO – Must be having the same vibe because of our living in close proximity.

  73. EMRaiders Says:

    Yeah guys, McClain didn’t impress me much in preseason. If at all. I’m just writing it off as he didn’t want to show what he had and is saving it until the season starts…lol.

    Could it be possible to strike out on our first round pick for so many years in a row?

    oh yeah, with Big Al, anything is possible…lol. just kidding i actually like the old jerky.

  74. RNOraiderFan Says:

    And I enjoyed his hit enough in the Seattle game that I would like to see him improve in other areas just so I could get to see more of them. Football IS supposed to be entertainment!!!!!
    *****************************************************
    I jumpped right outta my chair watching that hit! I like MM, let the kid develop. I think someone posted above that its our coaches job to get these “all heart” players ready to play some NFL ball.

  75. RNOraiderFan Says:

    RNO – Must be having the same vibe because of our living in close proximity.
    *******************************************
    Where U at?

  76. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Who cares dammit…..keept mitchell fa sho! I liked Brown hope he sticks on PS

  77. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bauce 4 Real

    perkin gettin my Raiders fix. Sup with you?

  78. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Vegas Raider……lol u gave the “Hey Mon!” from In Living Color reference……good schit!

  79. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    About 40 minutes N/W of Reno

  80. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Cool 25 mins north, Cold Springs.

  81. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Ah u perkin cutty? What u off of?

  82. RNOraiderFan Says:

    There was some good players cut. Wonder if the Raiders are done with the roster or if there could be some more moves.

  83. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    If you ever need a ride to Coliseum…….

  84. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Man oregon st just fawked up….center and qb exchange issues

  85. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bauce 4 Real

    henny black..

  86. raiders22 Says:

    new amsterdamn for me homies. nothin a little gin cant handle

  87. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    RnO…..ya never know bruh

  88. RNOraiderFan Says:

    If you ever need a ride to Coliseum…….
    Cool might take you up on that.

  89. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Henny black= Bauce Approved

  90. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    408 so u fukin wit it Sept 19th in the lot? Purple Drank bowl fa da fam….feel me?

  91. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    I don’t post a lot, but I am usually reading the blog between 0700 – 0900.

  92. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Man I wish the Raiders would of kept Morrison, at least as a back up. The guy can play SLB and MLB. If McClain tanks we are in deep $%#@!

  93. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    One thing obvious to me today……Pac 10 got best qb’s conference wise this year. It aint even up for debate

  94. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    FrankYouell…..you need to post more though

  95. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Jeez, RNO, think positive.

    I almost wish I hadn’t noticed what I noticed!

  96. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Cool I’m usally on 1000-1200. sometimes in the eve. As soon as that clown ricochet comes in I’m out tho,

  97. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Always liked your stuff

  98. UCLA Raiders Says:

    Yamon Figurs should not even make a UFL or CFL roster let alone NFL as WR/KR/PR.
    What does this guy have other than speed and suspect hands which usually leads to getting cut early from any respectable team’s training camp. He routinely dropped passes and fumbled punts.
    I sure hope the team signs up a quality KR/PR among todays league wide cuts. Anyone will be better this guy.

  99. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Oh, I’m a die hard positive Raider Fan. I think this year is going to be like some frosted flakes..GREAT!!!

  100. kidseven Says:

    Lots of drama today. Frankly I’m willing to give up some coverage skills for sure tackling and some good hitting. Ideally he’d do both, but MM does bring it. I would have been shocked to see him cut. But I was sure impressed with Stevie. Too bad they couldn’t have let Figurs or Eugene go.

    What’s really interesting is the possibility the coaches really don’t like MM.

  101. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    No need to worry about mcclain….if you remember 07 willis struggled a lil then came on as he got experience

  102. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Me and RaiderRockstar noticed the same thing about the guy jogging on the field to some plays. It kinda made me sick.

  103. kidseven Says:

    For anyone who missed the hit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TmFAAAQqc

  104. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    K7…..totally agree….mm brings a nasty edge our team has lacked

  105. RNOraiderFan Says:

    No need to worry about mcclain….if you remember 07 willis struggled a lil then came on as he got experience
    ******************************************************
    experience is not the problem I’m seeing. If you can watch the BCS title game. Watch McClain the whole game, don’t watch the ball. There is a hustle problem for sure.

  106. chargerschoke Says:

    That youtube vid of Hiram getting stiff armed is sick, but I still have saw him hit LT and bloody LTs nose!!!

  107. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I’ll give you this Bauce, it could be the kid is overthinking, tring not to mess up. Then you are right, after a little more playin time the kid will start to let instinct take over.

  108. EMRaiders Says:

    HERES A LIST OF NOTABLE CUTS BY OTHER TEAMS:

    As expected, Seattle Seahawks receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh(notes) and Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart(notes) were the highest-profile players to lose their current spots as NFL teams reduced their rosters to 53 names by 6:00 EDT on Saturday afternoon. Houshmandzadeh was a bad fit with a new Seattle organization, and Leinart simply never lived up to the expectations that go with the top-10 pick status he received in 2006. Rookie free agent Max Hall(notes) clearly outplayed Leinart, and reclamation project Mike Williams helped make Houshmandzadeh expendable.
    And before you think, “Well, Leinart went to USC and was coached by Pete Carroll, so Leinart will land in Seattle,” keep in mind that just-released quarterback Patrick Ramsey(notes), formerly of the Saints, played for the Denver Broncos in 2007 and 2008 when current offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates was there. Ramsey seems a more reasonable option. The Seahawks also acquired Eagles lineman Stacy Andrews and lost legendary line coach Alex Gibbs to an apparent retirement.
    Here are some other notable cuts:

    Arizona Cardinals: We talked about Cody Brown and Monty Beisel in yesterday’s blog post about early cuts. Leinart wasn’t a surprise at all.
    Baltimore Ravens: The release of quarterback Troy Smith(notes) was a bit of a surprise, though Smith may get a better shot as an athletic option quarterback on another team.

    Buffalo Bills: Wayne State running back Joique Bell(notes) lost a numbers game at the position, but I have little doubt that he can help another team. Bell is a big back with agility and ability. Former New England second-round pick Chad Jackson(notes) was cut after accomplishing very little in Buffalo – that’s one Bill Belichick is going to want to forget. Of course, the Bills also cut receiver James Hardy(notes), their own former second-rounder. As we shall see, it was a very bad day for second-rounders overall.

    Carolina Panthers: A bit of a surprise to see defensive tackle Tank Tyler(notes) cut; Tyler made some plays with the Chiefs a while back. But the Panthers had the best preseason defense by far, and they obviously feel great about the guys they’re keeping.

    Chicago Bears: Guard Josh Beekman(notes) was a fourth-round pick in 2007, and was thought to be part of the Bears’ future. And it won’t help his rep that he couldn’t stick on the team with the worst pass-blocking line in the NFL. WR Juaquin Iglesias(notes), a third-rounder last year, was Sam Bradford’s(notes) favorite target at Oklahoma, but never managed to stand out at the NFL level.

    Cincinnati Bengals: Former Kansas WR Dez Briscoe was extremely productive in college and may have been lost in the shuffle with all the focus in Chad Ochicinco, Terrell Owens(notes), and rookies Jermaine Gresham(notes) and Jordan Shipley(notes). Matt Jones(notes) was also cut; it would be a big surprise if the former first-round pick’s career isn’t over.

    Denver Broncos: Denver cut former Pats DE Jarvis Green(notes), leaving them with very little in the way of a front line. They also released Brandon Stokely, who was probably made redundant with the ascent of rookie Eric Decker(notes). And in s stunning move, Denver sent 2009 second-round CB Alfonso Smith(notes) to the Lions for TE Dan Gronkowski(notes). You’ll remember that Smith was the kid that had Denver sending a 2010 first-round pick to Seattle last year for the right to trade up.

    Houston Texans: Some bigger names, but no real surprises. RB Chris Henry, CB Jacques Reeves(notes), and K Kris Brown(notes) (the Mike Vanderjagt of the new age) were the notable cuts.

    Miami Dolphins: The Tuna-led Fins admitted a mistake by releasing quarterback Pat White(notes), who was neither fish nor fowl in Miami’s Wildcat offense. White was a speed option guy in school, and he never caught up to the more complex arrays in Miami. And former USC receiver Patrick Turner(notes), taken in the third round just last year, was also jettisoned.

    New England Patriots: Reports have the Pats releasing OLB Derrick Burgess(notes), which could hurt both parties. Burgess isn’t what he used to be, but the New England pass rush can’t afford any more hits.

    New Orleans Saints: Ladell Betts(notes) was simply outplayed by undrafted rookie Chris Ivory, and Patrick Ramsey was outclassed by Drew Brees(notes) Mini-Me Chase Daniel(notes).

    New York Jets: No real shockers among the “Hard Knocks” crew, though LB Brashton Satele(notes) seemed to impress in camp, and I think you could have received decent odds on rookie running back Joe McKnight(notes) not making the team, though he actually did.

    Philadelphia Eagles: DB Macho Harris(notes) was taken by Philly in the fifth round just last season, but he never found a spot at either cornerback or safety, and rookie Trevard Lindley(notes) outplayed him this preseason.

    Pittsburgh Steelers: Center Justin Hartwig(notes) is a fairly big name; he signed a four-year, $10 million contract with Pittsburgh just last season. But he was overmatched as a run blocker, and rookie Maurkice Pouncey(notes) simply beat him out.

    San Diego Chargers: The trade for ex-Cowboys receiver Patrick Crayton(notes) sealed Josh Reed’s(notes) fate, and former Bears safety Nathan Vasher(notes), who hasn’t played a full season since 2005, couldn’t make the cut, either.

    St. Louis Rams: Linebacker Bobby Carpenter(notes) was traded from Dallas in May, but lost time to Larry Grant(notes) and never impressed his new coaching staff.

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: The Bucs have already cast RB Derrick Ward(notes) aside just one year after signing him to a four-year, $17 million contract. Now, they’ve added WR Michael Clayton(notes) to that big pile of dead cash. Just one year after outbidding the Seahawks for WR Michael Clayton’s services and giving him a five-year, $24 million deal, Tampa Bay has cut Clayton as well. It’s safe to say that Bucs GM Mark Dominik has had his share of rocky moments early on.

    Washington Redskins: The formerly Fast Willie Parker(notes) was the big name here.

    NFL teams can start adding to their practice squads tomorrow, which is when many of these names will find new roster spots.

    Related: , Troy Smith, Tank Tyler, Matt Leinart, Matt Jones, Derrick Ward, Patrick Crayton, Ladell Betts, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Drew Brees, Kris Brown, Terrell Owens, Brashton Satele, Max Hall, Joique Bell, Joe McKnight, Sam Bradford,

  109. kidseven Says:

    K7…..totally agree….mm brings a nasty edge our team has lacked

    Yeah, gotta keep him in the mix as long as he’s not a total liability out there. Cut one of the known sub-par players. Still reason to think MM will get better too.

  110. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I really like MM too. Love that fire!

  111. Teabag Says:

    Did I say it? or did I say it?

  112. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Thanks much, Bauce.

    But I guess I have always been a better listener than a talker. Except for the personal attacks that appear on here and the causting banter…..I find that there are pearls of wisdom to be found from just about everyone. And there is a ton of football knowledge – especially specific to the Raiders – to be gained from a bunch of the guys.

    That’s why I log on mostly in the morning. The talk is just about all Raider-related – and practically none of the negative overly-jaded and opinionated stuff. And most of the guys in the AM seem to be willing to LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. Amazin.

  113. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Get Hartwig now Al!!

  114. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Yamon figurs, sam williams, and hiram eugene=proof the scholies still get dissed out in da 510 lol……Al is so stubborn its just funny now. He will let go a lil but 100 pct? never. I dont blame him

  115. RNOraiderFan Says:

    personal attacts is usally one guy, always here at night. When that starts up I’m out. I am no keyboard gangster.

  116. ArmChair GM Says:

    # RNOraiderFan Says:
    September 4th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Get Hartwig now Al!!
    ________________________________________________________

    I agree

  117. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Nah, Williams is one of our best special teamers and a friend of mine.

  118. Teabag Says:

    Also, dumb ass Andy Slater first said it was going to be Mike Mitchell…. then retracted it and said Stevie Brown… then said Mike Mitchell again…. Any retard could have told you it was going to be a S… no team carries 5

  119. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Lol FrankYouell…..sometime the ppersonal attacks are fun…..but yeah AM crew is cool tho….i like when BHP shows up there. Very entertaining

  120. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Is there just one game on Thurs or two, anyone know?

  121. RNOraiderFan Says:

    If Vel can play NFL ball, why not play him at OT and get Hartwig…Just sayin.

  122. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Tea….yes u got it correct but i disagree with ya a bit….yes no team keeps 5 safties but how many keep only 3? Eugene isnt a football player period

  123. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    RNO…..only min vs no

  124. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Raider have a load of OTs, you think we could find two that can ball?
    Mario, Barnes, Walker, Pears, Gallery, Vel, Camp..damn!

  125. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    I noticed you had quite a debate with BHP earlier today. It was a hoot.

  126. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Snnyjcbs……..BAUCEomeness! Post was great!

  127. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Min vs No… Can’t wait.

  128. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I’ve got to run… Later Nation!!!!

  129. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Frank…..dont know if that was debate or a beatdown…..bhp has trouble admitting he was wrong

  130. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    And, GAWD, did you have fun with it!

    Some folks just cannot gracefully thank someone for teaching them something.

  131. Raider75 Says:

    gettin deep in here.

  132. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Oh, dang!

    Almost forgot.

    I know some of you guys mentioned earlier some QB’s you might prefer over Kyle Boller. But….he DID do well this pre-season and is very happy to be back in Cali. So could we please keep him? Just for me?

    Cuz, ya see. His family showed up the other evening…all decked out in Raiders gear! Sat right in front of me at the game. Mom. Dad. Wife. And, I belive, wife’s dad. Holy mackerel, is Kyle’s little bride gorgeous or what !!!??? And she was going nust for the TEAM….not just for Kyle. Jumpin all over and screamin her head off every time the TEAM did something good!!!

    And when recognized….sweet as hell about posing for photos with folks !!!!!

    So……PLEEEEEEEZE……fellas, can we keep Kyle. PLEEEEEEEEEZE.

  133. priesttj Says:

    I don’t have a problem admitting I’m wrong IF I’m wrong. Just because you saay I’m wrong desn’t make me wrong………

  134. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Lol always fun but we love bhp….would love to meet him. he loves the raiders and that cant be denied

  135. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Oh. If they aren’t there every game, I will let you know so then you can cut him.

  136. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    BHP! BHP! BHP!

  137. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Lol Frank

  138. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Bhp you are an Al Davis loyalist sympathist just like I am but we disagree on few things its still all good

  139. SinceFrankYouellField Says:

    Nite, guys.

    Bride needs the PC for a while!

  140. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    When is FoolFAIL coming on? I know the big bingo tournament isnt tonight is it?

  141. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    See ya Frank….come to tailgate man

  142. fat kidd Says:

    priesttj Says:
    September 4th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    I don’t have a problem admitting I’m wrong IF I’m wrong. Just because you saay I’m wrong desn’t make me wrong………

    ………………YOUR WRONG IF HE SAYS YOUR RIGHT BUT WRONG IF YOU SAY YOUR WRONG BUT NOT RIGHT IF YOUR WRONG THEN YOR RIGHT BUT WRONG AND WRONG WHEN HE IS RIGHT BUT HE IS WRONG IF YOUR RIGHT AND I WAS WRONG FOR TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS BUT I AM RIGHT IF YOU SAY IM WRONG AND WRONG IF I AM RIGHT.

  143. priesttj Says:

    You know me B I love talking Raider football, I got no hard feelings with nobody. See ya’ sometime this season……….

  144. Silver Surfer Says:

    I second the notion of post 54. Siavii has a motor which is exactly what we need in our rotation in the middle! Wouldn’t mind also reuniting with Louis Rankin over Rock or Bennett. We just saw what he brings on special teams and he was always a fan fav here. Wouldn’t even mind seeing a scatback like Stefan Logan hiding behind our huge line. While we’re at it Housh over Yamon is a no brainer. Can we please give JC/Grads a possesion receiver to go with all of our speed? And continuing this wish list what about signing center Justin Hartwig (just released by the Steelers) and moving Veldheer back to R tackle and Langston to R guard like last year. It gives B Cambell time to get up to speed and a certified starting center in the middle. I’d also rather see Bear Pascoe as a blocking tight end and not Pears. Let’s hope Manase Tonga and Stevie Brown clear waivers. The sight of MM34 being outjumped and outwrestled for one td last week and out of sorts in zone coverage on a second was tough to watch. If we are indeed ready to change our losing ways we need Al to forego his love of size and speed (DMac, DHB and Figurs) and instead go with players that have good football instincts, heart and playmaking capabilities. This past draft was a good start. Go Raiders!

  145. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    No worries Bhp….norco bob tailgate sept 19th…..anyways im out….nite life callin da BAUCE…….JUST WIN

  146. raidertay Says:

    Stevie was one of the few things 2 get excited about this preseason. If the coaches all wanted him u think they could have found a roster spot 4 him. Cut Nick Miller. Keep MM and Stevie. Hope he sticks around on practice squad

  147. Vinous Says:

    SNB and man others that want Eugene cut in favor of Brown and Mitchell, the problem is Eugene can play (somewhat) the deep FS position…and Mitchell can’t (yet)and neither can Brown yet. They prefer Branch at SS and Huff at FS with Eugene backing up Huff.

  148. Vinous Says:

    246 = The QB play was much more important than whether Brown goes to PS or not…Brown is a prospect…that is all…if they kept Brown and Mitchell – Brown would play only if there were injuries. Eugene apparently was not likely to get cut because of his deep ability at FS.

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