Final tally on roster forecast
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 4th, 2010 at 10:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how I fared in assessing the Raiders roster before the Seahawks game:
All 38 players I proclaimed as “locked in” made the roster.
Quarterbacks (3) _ Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller.
Running backs (3)_Michael Bush, Darren McFadden, Marcel Reece.
Wide receivers (4)_Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens, Jacoby Ford.
Tight ends (2)_Zach Miller, Brandon Myers.
Offensive line (7)_Mario Henderson, Robert Gallery, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle, Langston Walker, Jared Veldheer, Bruce Campbell.
Defensive line (5)_Matt Shaughnessy, Tommy Kelly, Richard Seymour, Lamarr Houston, Desmond Bryant.
Linebackers (4)_Kamerion Wimbley, Rolando McClain, Trevor Scott, Travis Goethel.
Defensive backs (7)_Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Johnson, Stanford Routt, Tyvon Branch, Michael Huff, Mike Mitchell, Walter McFadden.
Specialists (3)_Shane Lechler, Sebastian Janikowski, Jon Condo.
Seven players of the nine players I said had a “good chance to make it” were on the roster:
RB Rock Cartwright
RB Michael Bennett
OT Erik Pears
G-T Khalif Barnes
DT John Henderson
LB Ricky Brown
CB Jeremy Ware
The two in this category I missed on were defensive end Jay Richardson and safety Stevie Brown.
Seven of the 14 players I assessed as “on the bubble” are on the roster:
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins
WR Nick Miller
WR Yamon Figurs
LB Thomas Howard
LB Quentin Groves
LB Sam Williams
S Hiram Eugene
The seven “bubble” players who did not make it were C-G Chris Morris, FB Manase Tonga, WR Todd Watkins, TE John Owens, DT William Joseph, DE Chris Cooper and S Jerome Boyd.
Twelve of the 13 players I identified as “waiting for release” were cut. The lone survivor was guard/tackle Daniel Loper, who I vow to find out more about in the near future.
Here’s what coach Tom Cable said Saturday regarding Loper when asked if Morris’ release was hastened by Jared Veldheer’s promotion to starting center:
“I think a little bit, but more importantly, both of the young guys being able to contribute, and Dan Loper I think has just steadily improved and certainly showed well the other night.”
The dozen who indeed were let go were PK Swayze Waters, QB Colt Brennan. WR Shaun Bodiford, OL Alex Parsons, OL Brandon Rodd, DL Greyson Gunheim, DL Kellen Heard, DL Alex Daniels, LB David Nixon, LB Slade Norris, CB Joe Porter and CB Joey Thomas
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September 4th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
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September 4th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Does It Smell Anymore?” with Dhani Jones Dhani do the Raiders smell anymore? I Gaurentee 0 Stinkage
September 4th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
To me it made little sense keeping Boller over Brennan. The 3rd QB spot should be a developmental slot. Boller as the 3rd. They must really have a lot of confidence in the offensive line?!?
Michael Huff is still here because he’s the best option to play that “center field” safety position.
YOu guys are shocked that Figures made the team? What was his 40x again? LOL
So much for seeing Mitchell on the field as a starter anytime soon. Big hitter but can’t cover at all. The game is not won based on ESPN highlights. 2nd round pick? LOL
Glad to see Big John Henderson on the roster! Good to see the RAiders put focus on the less glamourous run defense. ESPN highlights aren’t everything! The most important keep on that defense of any of the “bubble” players. Glad to see the Raiders didn’t lose their mind. I am sure that giving up 160yds per game on the ground helped Henderson’s cause. He will help the run defense and be an asset to McClain.
Either Veldheer is really good..or Satele is absolutely terrible! and if he’s that bad….should he even be on the roster…probably should take a look at the kid Center from Pittsburgh.
Nick Miller made the squad? Well, let’s see what he’s got.
BTW, Figures ran something like a sub 4.3 40x……LOL
September 4th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Stevie Brown intercepted 2 passes and recovered a punt.
How many passes has Mitchell intercepted?
Al and his scholarship bs again.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Glad to see Big John Henderson on the roster! Good to see the RAiders put focus on the less glamourous run defense. ESPN highlights aren’t everything! The most important keep on that defense of any of the “bubble” players. Glad to see the Raiders didn’t lose their mind. I am sure that giving up 160yds per game on the ground helped Henderson’s cause. He will help the run defense and be an asset to McClain.
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100% Right!
September 4th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Fox in the Hen house!
September 4th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
You guys really go all-in on what some unknown radio clown living in south Florida tweets about the Raiders, eh?
Let’s see what Mitchell can do. Looked pretty good to me at the end of last year once he got healthy and they’ve been creating a special spot for him in some packages to get him on the field (would they really go to all that trouble and then cut Mitchell out of nowhere? don’t think so). Can’t wait to see the kid get some more time in reg season game action.
And I believe safety is now the deepest position the Raiders have. Branch is pretty much universally liked by fans. Huff has plenty of critics, but he really broke out last year and started to play like he did at Texas. I’ve seen him make some more timely pass-play breakups this preseason and I think he’s going to shine this year. Mitchell has a chance to be special — a true enforcer that we haven’t had in decades — if he can find his way onto the field. And Hiram Eugene is a solid option that has looked to be playing the best ball of his life this preseason. He would start for plenty of teams in this league with where he’s at right now.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
And how many teams would ever cut an early 2nd-round prospect who has had ZERO off-field issues before the start of his second season? The whole premise is ludicrous.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Let the coaches make the decisions Al.
They grade players based on film study, not draft position.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Cant believe Im saying this,but where is Mr? Hope our Raider bro is all right,sounded a bit down,whatever,get back to posting so I/we can check ya! Mr,RAIDERS will win 9 or more games,period! Comment?
September 4th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
This is still Mr Davis’ team and most of these players wouldn’t be here t keep on the team if he didn’t draft them. You don’t know what went into it. You’re just jumping to your usual Al Davis propaganda crap with out any knowledge of facts whatsoever.
Steve Brown can get on the PS much easier than Mitchell can and they can have both while Mitchell would certianly not make it past the waiver wire.
You guy’s so caught up in this media crap why not try to think for yourself once in a while instead of always being led like sheep.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Chris Cooper should have made it.
If Stevie Brown gets officially and is not at least on practice squad….it will be a stupid move!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Stevie Brown better be on practice squad!
Eugene staying on this team is a joke IMO.
Thank god Chris Morris was finally CUT!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Mike Mitchell will not beat out Michael Huff or Tyvon Branch. We knew that before this radio guy said anything. Mike Mitchell also has difficulty in coverage. We knew that before this radio guy said anything.
Mike Mitchell is a package guy. Hope to see him on the field in situations that lend to his strengths.
He’s a backup nonetheless.
Only way Mitchell can start is if Michael Huff is released, Branch moves to Free Safety (risk) and Mitchell’s coverage skills improve enough for the coaches to trust him.
Otherwise, he’s in the game to get on the ESPN highlight reel!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Fu**n STUPID cutting Stevie Brown and keeping freakin Hiram Eugene ahead of him??
UNREAL!!
Dumb old man Al stickin his nose where it shouldn’t be….AGAIN!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Kirk Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Let the coaches make the decisions Al.
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So are you in favor of bringing back Kwame Harris and Cornell Green as starters and making Justin Fargas our full-time lead back again at the cost of never letting DMC or Bush ever get a real chance to play? Because those are the types of decisions Cable has made with the roster in his 9-19 NFL head coaching career.
There’s not a coach on this team who has accomplished 1/50th of what Al Davis has in the NFL.
And all that aside the source of this story is ridiculously suspect.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
I was much more worried about Jeremy Ware making it than brown. That kid Loper is a player as well. We are so deep at safety it doesn’t matter a whole lot about Stevie Brown it’s not like he was going to start. He would’ve been a ST’s player at best. This morning if I said keep Brown over Mitchell most of you would’ve called me crazy but because some story comes out all of sudden you guy’s want Brown over Mitchell. Now that is what I call fickle and a bunch of sheep.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Brown always making plays around the ball compared to the other clowns like Eugene who are always lost out there.
Old dumb man Al doesn’t know what playmakers look like anymore does he?
September 4th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Mr. Stevie Brown you are a Raider, do not let anyone tell you any different. You are the example of Pride & Poise. Committment to excellence for you was not a slogan on a banner, but the goal in which you perform. See you on the practice squad.
Al thank you for keeping Mr. Mitchell.
Al if you have to and another team picks up S. Brown off the waiver wire give up another 7th round pick for him; then fire the coach, coordinator, or assistant that put you in the position of having to chose between the two.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
People who are Al Davis LAPFOGS are just IDIOTS!
Brown should have been kept over Eugene!!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
That’s fans for ya’ they’ll go which ever way the wind is blowing. Stevie Brown hasn’t played a down in the NFL but he’s a star in here because of a story.
That’s why I never listen to fans whims they are way too fickle. Brown is stiff in the hips as well same as Mitchell we don’t know if that kid can really play. He gt a couple of cheap ints. now they’ll put him in the probowl. It’s beyond crazy.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
I think Eugene has looked good this preseason and he’s made some plays before (go back and look at the highlight of the incredible and crucial pick he made at Pittsburgh last year).
Brown will probably wind up on the practice squad. Maybe somebody with depth issues at safety likes him and makes him an offer, but I doubt most will bump one of their guys for a 7th-round rookie free agent. Nothing against Brown, I’d just be a tad surprised if he doesn’t clear waivers.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
How do you know DKnight I didn’tv see where the coaches support that Eugene wasn’t even questioned it’s just your opinion.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
It’s the same blowhards whinning and crying about the same stuff. The same guy’s who say the single high safety is impossible to play.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
well we know al values his opinion over everything else, so nothing has changed. al’s opinion means we are a 7-9 team and any good will we’ve built up with cable is moot now. get ready for vanilla defense and deep passes on third and long, second and short and first and ten.
mm is a legend in al’s mind and therefore those who are al’s employees or propagandists are gonna say, we must have mm. funny, he never shows up in games, like sam williams he never gets his name called and really games are all that matter. c’est la vie, al is contributing!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Eugene sucking someones dick?
he aint better than S.Brown or MM
September 4th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdb_t0tbyRE
September 4th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
How do you know DKnight I didn’tv see where the coaches support that Eugene wasn’t even questioned it’s just your opinion
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How many times do I have to tell you old man….that your freakin IDIOT who has no sac and is an Al Davis lapdog.
That’s all you are! Your not even a Raider fan….your an Al Davis fan! Moron!
Go drink some more of that purple sizzerup with your boy JaMarcus!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Anyone else wonder if we’re making the right call in starting Campbell over Gradkowski. I like Campbell, but Gradkowski just might have “it”.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
stevie hasn’t played a down in the nfl, but has mm the invisible man? al swung for the fences on him but whiffed mightily. mm is the invisible man on game day, don’t see why anyone would be so high on him because of a youtube video. ballhawks are ballhawks there is no teaching it.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Hey Genius this team wouldn’t exist without his contribution…………whew what is it with these guy’s he biult the team you’ll be watching this year. So maybe you shouldn’t watch at all.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
STEVIE BROWN should have been kept over Hiram “scholarship” Eugene.
Of course the old looney man Al isn’t going to cut Mitchell yet, cause of the bad PR and he doesn’t want to be made fun of yet for the reach pick last year if Mitchell in Round 2.
The old man Al has received enough bad PR already from the JaBustas Russell!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
players who al doesn’t think highly of that have it, are not an option. those who have the physical skill as in size, speed and measureables are all that matters for al because that is the only thing he can evaluate. al would rather keep players he hand chose around forever without merit as a way of saying hey look, i know what i am doing he makes the team every year, but they never seem to make any plays and the only time you hear their name called during a game is for a penalty. vanilla d and deep passes all night long, it’s going to be a long and frustrating season.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Hey Genius this team wouldn’t exist without his contribution…………whew what is it with these guy’s he biult the team you’ll be watching this year. So maybe you shouldn’t watch at all.
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Go suck Al Davis c**ck some more why don’t you sizzerup boy!
You don’t know what is and what isn’t good for this team….you just try and defend Al Davis and you don’t even get paid for it!
Dumb old fool!
September 4th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
yes it would exist it may or may not have the same history as we all know and love from 30 years ago. yeah al’s a legend and he’s done it all. winning sb and then later on in life destroying the raiders. crash and burn man crash and burn. we have been in it perpetually for at least 7 years. al has ruined his legend status, now he is just a sad old man who used to have and just can’t seem to hang it up. but yeah he owns the team and has a right to do with it what he will, fans be damned. old man can’t take the heat for cutting a 2nd rounder? some al doesn’t care for what the press thinks about him, eh? this shows he does have thin skin.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
good luck S.Brown dont matter if your a 7th rder and play your ass off all through camp and pre-season here..f-man eugene again
September 4th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Hey Hobs did you say that yesterday or are you saying it today because it’s the topic of the day?
I’ve been in here almost everyday and I haven’t read a thing about Mitchell being a bum until today?
DKnight you’rre just a crybaby cryin’abut everything all the time. You don’t like this team Mr Davis biult root for another team stop whinng crybaby.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
yes it would exist it may or may not have the same history as we all know and love from 30 years ago. yeah al’s a legend and he’s done it all. winning sb and then later on in life destroying the raiders. crash and burn man crash and burn. we have been in it perpetually for at least 7 years. al has ruined his legend status, now he is just a sad old man who used to have and just can’t seem to hang it up. but yeah he owns the team and has a right to do with it what he will, fans be damned. old man can’t take the heat for cutting a 2nd rounder? some al doesn’t care for what the press thinks about him, eh? this shows he does have thin skin.
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… Entirely based on the tweeting of Andy Slater of talk radio station WTFL 640 AM in south Florida — who we all know is the be all/end all of reporting what’s really happening inside the Raiders.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
tj
yeah we all know al doesn’t care if anyone watches HIS team, that is why he continually inflates the crowd numbers at home games. that tv money must be really good, wonder how much of that makes it into his pocket? should we start calling him that owner who pockets the money and puts any old thing on the field? not doing what it takes to win is all i see him do. if he really wanted to win we would. 7 years of futility, really longer than that with a brief bright spot in gruden but he took care of that. crash and burn. al’s a legend, he’s truly done everything there is to do. from winning, being influential, taking what is not his, picking winners, picking losers, and finally ruining a franchise.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
How do you know that he cares about the press because Jerry said so? lol you guy’s are suckers Big Al doesn’t give a damn about what others think if you don”t that you really are ignorant.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
oh i forget, one more thing al has done. al ruining his legacy. legend no more.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
what do you get for your loyalty? free tickets?
September 4th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
S.Brown had made a couple plays against second and third stringers. He is not Ed Reed.
Mitchell has the skill set with his speed and strength. He is in his second year lets see what happens.
The Raiders might still get Brown back, a far better chance getting him back then signing Mitchell to the practice squad.
I don’t think it was Mitchell verse S.Brown anyways and I why is Sam Williams on this team still.
Cry about that.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
oh that really hit home didn’t it. your so fond of saying al doesn’t care what anyone thinks…..well he does. he has thin skin and not just because he’s older than dirt. paper skin al.
September 4th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Dude you’re swimming in your own words, He drafted every player and biult this team when everyone said he couldn’t do it.
All of a sudden he’san idiot because of a 7th rnd draft pick that’ll end up on the practice squad. You guy’s ae geniuses.
Keep lapping up Jerry’s dunge!
I’m bored
September 4th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
what do you get for your loyalty? free tickets?
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I wish. Try one of JaMarcus’ old Raiders beanies he used to rock on the sideline instead.
Surprise bonus: if you soak the beanie and then chew on it for awhile you get a pretty wicked sizzrup high.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:00 am
sam williams is still on the team for the same reason mm is on the team. they are both invisible men come game day but he who shall not be named thinks they are great playa’s deal with it.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:01 am
tell me tj we all know he drafted every player and built this team by god we know. how well has that worked out?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:02 am
chris that’s gross, lol. funny but gross. that is f’ing visual too.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:03 am
tj your getting your arse kicked, typical thing you do is leave when tht happens.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:04 am
jerry’s the bad guy? he’s pro al in the way he develps his stories as to not rock the boat.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Chris in NY Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Anyone else wonder if we’re making the right call in starting Campbell over Gradkowski. I like Campbell, but Gradkowski just might have “it”.
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We are ABSOLUTELY making the right call with Campbell over Gradkowski. Gradkowski might have it…and so could Campbell.
My problem with Gradkowski fans is that they are basing everything on such a small sample of evidence. BAsically the 4th QTR of the Steelers game, a decent, not spectacular outing against the Bengals and a preseason game. That’s not enough. If this was all we had, then fine…but his career 53% completion, 3 teams and all that are part of the picture as well.
Campbell simply has a better track record. Sure, there are holes in his game too..othewise he wouldn’t have been available. But Campbell has had several good outings in his career and has also played well in the preseason.
They both could have “IT”
Jason Campbell should be and is the starting QB. Gradkowski is the backup. For Gradkowski, that represents a significant upgrade to where he was a year ago at this time….a guy just trying to get a job in the NFL.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:09 am
you continually miss the point. stevie may or may not be on the practice squad, this is an example of cable getting too much favorable press and al exerting his contributions to the team. as long as al contributes, we don’t win. keeping scholarships and forcing the coaching staff to run certain vanilla plays are killing us. imagine what the team could do if they could keep the game plans they practiced all week instead of getting something new on fridays. imagine what they could do if they didn’t telegraph to the other team that game plan. the other teams says, sweet we got the raiders next week, we can game plan for the following week cause we already know what they are going to do, it’s like a bye week. they know everything there is to know about who’s running the show and his tendencies.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Chris in NY, you and I have somthin in common. Within the walls.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:09 am
As for Mike Mitchell. I said my piece on Mitchell when the Huff rumors were circulating. Mitchell is a liability in the coverage game. That’s why he’s not out there now.
Also, my only critique of this is that 2nd round picks should be projected starters. THe Raiders reached for him when there were other needs. I don’t think Mitchell was the best available player at his slot. Just my opinion.
I don’t see how Mitchell gets on the field. He’s not nimble enough for the FS spot….and he is not better than Branch at SS.
He’s a package guy. He gets on the field if Huff is released/traded and Branch moves to FS. THat would be risky in my opinion because Branch is a successfull SS….why risk his production at SS for uncertainty at FS.
So, Mitchell will be a package guy until his coverage skills get better.
As far as the Florida sports reporter….probably partially right and partially wrong.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:14 am
i am a grads over campbell. dude, shanarat gave him to us and i do mean gave. we’ll see but i don’t think it matters. we are still going to telegraph to the world our game plan.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Hobs Gnarly
You are right in one regard. The vanilla defense. The Raiders have to give more looks. They have to blitz, move Nnamdi around. The attitude of “come beat my best 11 straight up” makes for great theater…but in a league ruled by “professional” strategists spending hours upon hours looking for every weakness in a gameplan…in 21st century that’s football suicide.
I remember when Brandon Marshall lined up against Kirk Morrison last year and the Raiders did nothing. Or seeing the opposing #1 receiver simply line up over Chris Johnson.
Gotta mix it up. REmember that EAgle game? Then everyone “joking” if Marshall will get in trouble.
Not funny to me. They seem to have some dynamic players on defense…athletic and big…be a shame not to use them creatively!
September 5th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Hobs,
My bias with gradkowski is that when I see him play…I keep seeing:
JT O’Sullivan
Jon Kitna
Doug Flutie
Shaun Hill
and any number of backup QBs that flashed here and there…but over the long haul are EXTREMELY ordinary
September 5th, 2010 at 12:20 am
priesttj Says:
September 4th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Dude you’re swimming in your own words, He drafted every player and biult this team when everyone said he couldn’t do it.
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LOL. Did we just win the pre season Super Bowl or something?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:22 am
but al’s not able of relenting his control and that is what it’s all about. his way over what coaches prefer and his plays over everything else. as long as that is the case we will never win a sb again. and for al to say he does what it takes to win is a sham. he’s no steinbrenner, not even close. he’s a control freak who time has past bye. pretty sad for us fans and for the nfl in general.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:24 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxTQAqB8Q0Q
September 5th, 2010 at 12:25 am
you can say that about gradkowski, fair enough but you can also say that about campbell. my thing with grads is i see gannon in the way he can make a play with the fire he plays with and with the way he makes teammates accountable. i don’t see that yet with campbell, i like campbell don’t get me wrong he is a professional and he is going to study and all that but what else besides a strong arm does he bring?
September 5th, 2010 at 12:27 am
too many people (al’s people) want to site their football knowledge in here. you don’t see what we see is always the case, but shoot…..if they can’t do what you say they can do in an actual game, then what good are they. invisible men!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 12:28 am
I also want a fundamentally good QB. I think Campbell is closer to that vision than Gradkowski.
Scrappy and inventive guys are good in a spot..but those guys seem to burn out in no-time.
I never like Jeff Garcia for that reason. Over a season, you could see that he could only lead a team so far.
Again, I have no problem with Gradkowski off the bench.
But if one has problems with Campbell’s track record, I really can’t see how you can like Gradkowski’s track record.
And BTW, preseason mean nada
September 5th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Ultimately, when you don’t develop your own quarterback, you are going to have to try and take someone else’s scrap and try and make gold out of it.
Its hard, because team’s rarely give up good QBs.
So, with Campbell and Gradkowski…you have these question marks outstanding.
The field of play will prove all at the end.
Oh, and playcalling….and having DMAC average more than 3 yards a carry.
Damn….why did Bush have to get hurt!
September 5th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Grad = Napoleon
Campbell = Wellington
different type leaders but both effective
September 5th, 2010 at 12:40 am
My two cents…
I dont think Al would worry about bad PR coming from cutting Mitchell after dumping Deangelo Hall, Javon Walker, and then Jamarcus Russell without batting an eyelid.
I do however think Eugene is a bad safety and S.Brown was worth holding onto over him. If they’re worried about depth behind Branch/Huff if one of them got injured or traded, reason for keeping Eugene, that’s understandable why that choice was made to keep Eugene, but I don’t agree with it.
If Brown clears waivers and we put him on Practice Squad, then all is forgiven for now. Unless another team claims him off our practice squad.
September 5th, 2010 at 12:54 am
priest,
if you are al’s propagandist, then he should try a new one because you are like his tired old plays……single high safety and four man rush with no hint of a blitz. all you can say is, without al there would be no raiders. al is the raiders. al is a legend. al won 30 years ago. al doesn’t care what the press thinks about him (yeah right).
September 5th, 2010 at 12:59 am
Louis Rankin over Cartwright anyone?
September 5th, 2010 at 1:01 am
al does worry about the press nowadays he’s been getting grilled. he held on to walker for what two years without playing him? jamarcus is only gone because of his apparent addiction made it necessary, don’t think otherwise. that is why we are seeing this knee jerk reactions to press speculations. they have become politicans trying to nip things in the bud instead of going out there and doing what it take to win. it’s all about keeping one man’s light shining and nothing about all out balls out do what it takes and if that means protecting al davis over winning then so be it. what a farce.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:03 am
this is a playoff team this year and a sb contender next year without al’s contributions, with it we are 7-9 if we are lucky and don’t lose the team half way thru.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Hobs Gnarly…
There’s truth to what you say. I don’t disagree. But I just ask if Mitchell is such a big deal PR-wise compared to Hall and Russell? But yes, Al worries too much about how he looks, and that gets in the way (at times) in regards to fielding the absolute best 53 annually.
Other organizations do this too tho…Jets holding onto McKnight, Bengals holding onto Andre Smith, and many other powermongers have their stupid idosyncrasies like McDaniels cutting all his best players, his recent trade picks, Shanahan and his perpetual desire to favor an undrafted third string RB to turn them into a 1,000 yard rusher for his resume, etc etc.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:46 am
the big picture is what i am trying to point out here and that is if we are stuck with players that are not the best and can’t start because they will be exposed as shams; that leads to al’s schemes being used and we all know those are old and don’t work for any amount of time in this day and age in the nfl. it may seem insignificant but it’s what it means overall….al’s contribution. you may have lived on park avenue 30-40 years ago but if you live on skid row now, no one is going to pay attention to you unless you are a spectacle.
September 5th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Hobs,
Your assessment of the last 7 years is sadly accurate.
However, I think this team has more coaching input this time around. I think Marshall and Jackson have some influence on this ball club. I think this offensive line is largely that of Cable. Of course seeing it filled with other teams refuse says enough there.
My biggest issue with Davis is not the roster. I just hope he lets the coaches implement the game plan as they see fit. Even if the general structure is still Al’s…he’s gotta let Marshall for example be creative in his playcalling…..let Jackson not force feed favorite players like last year.
Even Davis is sick of this losing now….I hope
September 5th, 2010 at 2:29 am
this Andy SLATER guy tweeted this an hour ago 1 am ……..@knightTEK From what I know, yes, Mitchell is gone. Doubt Al Davis will step in and change it in this case.
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so is mike mitchell in or out,,????
September 5th, 2010 at 2:52 am
Jackson & Marshall must be given full control of play-calling. I believe that is why Al with Cable support hired Hue.
Can the Raiders flip and recall their waiver on S. Brown with-in the 24 hour period.
btw-fyi- Mr. Figurs had 7 fumbles, yes that’s seven fumbles in two years (he only had one reception each year, so we can conclude his fumbles were returning KO &/or punts). He fumbled how many times in preseason and dropped a wide open, between the numbers, all but handed it to him pass by Bruce G, so how is it he made the cut?
I take it the 34mm story isn’t over and will be tweeted, blogged, chatted, posted all-day, until he is either cut or plays against the Titans.
I didn’t realize 34mm was going to be our T.O. Favre.
September 5th, 2010 at 3:53 am
Can’t understand why we kept Eugene and Sam Williams,and Ricky Brown aswell.
Seems like we’re rewarding mediocrity and failure.
September 5th, 2010 at 4:06 am
If we don’t have a kick/punt return guy,Justin Miller and Rankin are now available.Just saying……
September 5th, 2010 at 5:49 am
# neilb Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 3:53 am
Can’t understand why we kept Eugene and Sam Williams,and Ricky Brown aswell.
Seems like we’re rewarding mediocrity and failure.
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me neither, Stevie brown over Eugene, and keep Watkins, Heard or Gunheim over Williams or Ricky Brown
September 5th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Uncle Alzheimer strikes again.Hiram Eugnene,Sam Williams,Yamon Figurs,Mitchell. Then you cut Stevie Brown. Dont know if Nmamdi tried to speak for him, but I read somewhere that he would try. I also think that they should of given Colt Brennan more opportunites, but I believe Kyle Boller was penciled in automatically because of superior arm-strengh.
September 5th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Never mind MM,cutting brown was dumb,never played a down? Only made plays.Keeping eugene?haha lol lol
September 5th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Maybe we need to put up another billboard.
Al Davis doesn’t have the balls to admit he was wrong.
September 5th, 2010 at 6:52 am
I can’t believe there is such an outcry for a Seventh round pick. Its ridiculous.
September 5th, 2010 at 6:55 am
it’s not about the cut so much as what it means…….al’s in control and that can only mean more of the last seven years of misery.
i can’t believe there is that much support of mm, what has he done in his nfl career? he is the invisible man who can’t start.
September 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
# bcz24 Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 6:52 am
I can’t believe there is such an outcry for a Seventh round pick. Its ridiculous.
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I think the outcry comes more from frustration. Again, we are led to believe that Al has went against the coaches. This is what frustrates people. It undermines the coaches, makes the Organization look unorganized, and brings up once again everything that it is negative about the Raiders.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Some local radio guy in Florida says that Al trumped the coaching staff. No one can verify his credentials or his claim that he worked directly for Al and all of the sudden it means the Raiders are doomed to another 5-11 year? Its even more ridiculous now…
September 5th, 2010 at 7:21 am
oh yeah that is a convinient excuse, it’s espn, it’s mort, it’s adam, it’s some guy in south florida. let me tell you it’s some guy at harbor drive named al. a lot of people in here thought highly of stevie brown and the logical reason he is gone is because he outperformed a al favorite. mm is a you tube sensation and not worth anything but al davis’ honor, which is not worth much these days.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
This is Alz team,and i could be wrong even with all of the talent thats been assembled on this team this year, but until Alz entrusts some1 with football knowlegde to help him run the organization,im not sure when we will be able ever win the trophy again.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:24 am
My problem with Gradkowski fans is that they are basing everything on such a small sample of evidence
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SnB,
I think in this case, there is something to be said about the unknown, if you will.
Campbell has had 50+ games in the league, and has shown some serious flaws that he has yet to overcome. As another poster pointed out, Shanahan just gave him to us. We all know Mike would never do Al any favors whatsoever, he probably thinks he got over on us for a 4th round pick.
My concern with Campbell, was what plagued him in Washington. Plays to his competition. Had his best career game against the Super Bowl champion Saints last year (did lose the game with a terrible INT in the last minute) and than got benched at home against the Chiefs at halftime, and lost to Lions by puttting up 10 points to a team that hadn’t won in 2 years.
Time will tell, as they say…….
September 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
I wonder if Al every watches film of his players. Anybody who looks at the film can tell who the better player is. I looked at 5 minutes of film and could tell Crabtree was better than DHB.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Crabs is a jerk-wad.
His career will be like Antonio Bryant’s. Good player, complete jerk, who will have some good years, but still end up on 6 different teams in his career because he can’t be tolerated.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
MM34 is a strong saftey. Brown is a free saftey. It was Eugene over brown. Why all the hate on 34MM. Agreed I would have liked to keep Brown over Eugene but, maybe maybe the Huff trade talks are correct and the Raiders are scaed of just having a rookike 7TH round pick as there only FS.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:37 am
I like what I saw from Stevie Brown, but again it was a few series in some meaningless preseason games against 3rd stringers.
More than likely he will be on the PS, and realistically he could still get called up to the show at some point in the season.
We already going to have a rookie C, a brand new QB, a new OC, a rookie MLB, a rookie DE, an all-new LB core. Adding a rookie FS, even as backup or in some dime packages, might be just a little much.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:42 am
what has mm done to deserve love?
September 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Nothing, what has Brown done to show that the Raiders are falling apart because we released him? Like I said before I was in faover of keeping Brown, would rather had let a wr go than either saftey. Yamon is a sham.
September 5th, 2010 at 7:50 am
brown has done nothing to show the raiders are falling apart, it’s speculated that al is keeping his players over what the coaches want. it’s al making a new game plan on friday afternoon after having done something completely different during the week. it’s al running single high safety and four man rushes with no options to blitz and the other team knowing it. it’s throwing a bomb third and long to a receiver al chooses. too much al means the raiders stink!
September 5th, 2010 at 7:53 am
i wonder if you asked nnamdi what he thinks, he thought highly of sb.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Al Davis is a fawkin BAUCE!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Jamarcus, DHB, DMAC, Mitchell, what a series of bad draft picks. Davis needs to let the coaches do their job.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:15 am
So what he stepped in over some ppl? This happens everyday in business. Good for you Al! It is your team do what you feel. I’d prefer Tonga on roster and Carlisle cut but in no way do I believe this is a 6 or 7 win team
September 5th, 2010 at 8:15 am
One thing to back up Al on…
A GM/Owner ALWAYS gets his say above the coaches anyway. You think it’s any different elsewhere? If Tannenbaum wants McKnight in the 53 Rex has to put up with it, which he did. If Mike Brown says i want Andre Smith still in the 53 because i invested a 1st rounder and tens of millions on him to give up this soon, then Marvin Lewis has to deal with it. If Snyder or Jerry Jones or Kraft insist on some player, they’ll get their way. And OFTEN it’s for the same reason as what reportedly Al did for Mitchell—-i invested a high round pick and millions on someone, i want to persist a while longer still.
The ONLY problem i have is that it was Eugene over Brown. Tho I DO understand WHY—Eugene can be relied on as a back-up safety if Branch/Huff went down, neither mitchell nor brown could. So one of them “had to” go. It’s just Al and the coaches disagreed who it should be. And as we see all around the league, owners sometimes let the coaches say who, owners often want to have that final say.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Kirk…..shut up. You are and always will be an amazingly idiotic poster. You bring nada to this blog and shouldnt be allowed to speak in here ever again.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Again, my only question about all this is not that it was done, not that Al gets a final say, just “why” eugene over brown/mitchell when WE look at either mitchell/brown and say they’re worth it more…when perhaps the coaches/Al are right that Eugene is more dependable.
Why i think it’d be ENLIGHTENING more than anything else, if Hard Knocks did it on the Raiders, then we could see EXACTLY what we see from the coaches, hear how they assess all the players we know and love and hate, how Al and coaches interact, etc etc.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Crabtree better than DHB? Explain please. Do you realize people are drafted based on a team’s philosophy. If Crabtree wasnt conducive to our strategy why get him? Dummy.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Hiram Eugene sucks for sure. Im not pleased about this scrub on this team.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:24 am
GG…..i agree
September 5th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Yeah, i thought what Brown showed was sufficient to back up in the safety position as well as both MM and SB being STs players to replace whatever eugene did, and we all know how our STs is in a bad way in every way.
I wonder if SB or MM made any glaring errors on STs coverage as we did have a couple returned for TDs during pre-season.
But first impressions for a few years now has been Eugene is mediocre and needs to be replaced by new talent like Brown/Mitchell.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Brian!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Talked to Brad last night,..hes havin trouble with those punch bowl ingredients,…not giving up though.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:29 am
When will they annouce the practice squad signings???
September 5th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Choke dude,..is that what your up to this weekend, trippin on who makes the friggin practice squad?…dang.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Anyone traveling to the AZ game?
September 5th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Heres a better idea,..go fill the cooler with beer, get some grass,…go to the river, beach, lake,..dont sit around waiting for Geraldine to let you know the practice squad roster,…its a holiday weekend,..go outside today.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Yes fire,..me and a few are making the trip,..driving…cant wait!…we have row 4 seats behind Raider bench.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:34 am
yeah al’s the boss, does he give you free tickets to spread his propaganda?
September 5th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Just curious if Stevie Brown signs back on or if he heads back east.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Hobs,..is that your thing?..come in here and show everyone how unhappy you are?…that position is filled with 2 losers,..MR and old man kell,…2 bitter jealous losers…dont be like them.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:36 am
played 9 holes already today, windy but at least it’s dry here in england.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Brown may head east,…might get a job at Costco..who knows,…by the way, nobody in Alameda wanted Brown over Mitchell,..someone in Florida with a minimum wage radio job is trying to get a raise.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:37 am
England sucks,..bunch of fairies prancing around in the fog,..just like SF,..same thing.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:37 am
no my thing is i hate people who for some unknown reason back up al and there are only a few, when it’s obvious that he has ruined the raiders. i want the raiders to win, that’s my thing.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:38 am
al fans and not raider fans suck
September 5th, 2010 at 8:40 am
i am not unhappy bob. i have a good life, plenty of money, great kids and happily married. i don’t smoke maryjane but we can’t all be you.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Well Iv said this before to the other crybabies in here,…I dont care about the owner one way or another,..its silly to day after day cry about an owner doesnt even know you exist,..MR and old man kell cry, daily,..its embarrassing,…if you want to be a fool like them feel free. I go to every game,..Al Davis never enters my mind,..however he has complete control over you and a few others,..sucks for you.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
whatever, i am not english, here in support of our troops which i was once before.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
I wanted Brown over Huff actually , what a sorry tackler , guess the trading him for a OT failed. LOL
September 5th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Ya you sound happy dude,..cryin in here all the time,..ya,..ok…lol….if youre in England youre wife is butt ugly, horrible teeth, your kids are already queer,…ya walk around, hopin the Bobbys dont bust you peeing on the side of Buckingham Palace,…you suck punk.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
At least Eugene hit LT and bloodied LTs nose and made him sit for a few series, HE can cover too, Huff is way overpaid for his coverage skills! Trading him for a OT would have been brilliant!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Hey Hobs,..quit your snivlin…go get a pint with your ugly old lady and queer kids. Give the middle finger to the Queen for me,…and I mean the real queen, not your father.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
OD this morning! LOL HeHeHe!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
have you smoked that much weed that winning really doesn’t matter as long as you go to the game and get high? you know you al enters your mind your as big an al athletic supporter in here. for all i know your john herrera the way you suck al’s d*ck. go a head call me a crybaby, it doesn’t bother me coming from you, propagandist!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:46 am
when you can’t win an arugment you just call people names, typical. just like priest, next you’ll say your bored and leave. do you get free tickets for spreading al’s word?
September 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Heading to South Shore,..adios muchachos,…Hobs and the rest of the women in here can cry all day long due to some roster move,..losers….stay in England punk, we left that queer place over 200 years ago, too many crybabies,…you fit in well there…cya! Nation!
September 5th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I would never take free tickets,…I prefer to pay for them,..I have 4,..in a primo location,..tell you what crybaby, will treat you anytime,..been offering that to all in here,..only brian comes with me so far,..all the rest like you,..all talk…later crybaby.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:50 am
hey bob……why don’t you go check and see if al’s diaper needs changing. and funny to hear you say i am whining all the time, had a nice conversation with you yesterday but the minute someone says anything negative about al, you do what you get paid to do….defend him.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Hobs chill bruh….we bought to have a nice season….health permitting
September 5th, 2010 at 9:01 am
are you referring to me hobs as an al apologist? who drinks the kool aid, dissing me for what i said before?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Norco Bob Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Yes fire,..me and a few are making the trip,..driving…cant wait!…we have row 4 seats behind Raider bench.
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So when I went on StubHub and looked for those types of seats, they were going for about $750 a pop and up.
Nothing in the first deck was under $150, and any sidelines were like $300+. Tickets sold out on ticketmaster within a few hours.
We are sitting up top, but got a suite at the Staybridge right next door to the stadium for the weekend.
You tailgating with the purple drank, lol?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:05 am
yeah i thought so too, was high on the raiders….until i see the same old al’s in control crap.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Hobs you are wrong about vanilla schemes this year. If you cant see personnel we have and know better I suggest you take up another hobby.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Hobs MM is a strong safety…..if Branch goes down who plays SS if Al didnt step in and make this epic move? Exactly
September 5th, 2010 at 9:09 am
what up NATION???
September 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am
no gg. there are only a few on here that continually talk up al like his crap doesn’t stink and call people names when they can’t handle the convesation.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Al same control? Hmmmm drafted for need and took a MLB at 8…..acquired real help for the run defense? Hired Hue who implementing his own style of offense?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Stevie Brown was a seventh round pick. A team that picks him up will have to place him on the 53 man roster… Most teams have settled in and are pretty much set on who they are going to battle with. Not so sure that they will jettison someone they are intimate with for a 7th round pick.
Bottom Line;
Stevie Brown will wind up on the Raiders practice squad, and if the reports are correct he will not be on it long, he will be a Raider…
September 5th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Sup Theculator?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I am more stoked about this loper kid…
September 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Al is BAUCEome…..get over it. We on brink to having fine seasoon….hobs come aboard
September 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Big time Bauce what is it???
September 5th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Hobs…..mufugg the wagon come join the band!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Theculation……one more week one more week. I dont 100 feel roster but Im down for now. Instead of crying we need to discuss matchups and strategy for Tennessee
September 5th, 2010 at 9:18 am
The key to the Tennessee game is going to be stopping VY not CJ.
The Titans limped to an 8-8 season while CJ had the best year maybe ever for a RB. They have proven that he can go ape-shat for a 150 yards and 2 TD’s and still lose.
Hold him under 200 and VY to a 8-19 for 70 yards and a pick, and we should win.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Theculation……one more week one more week. I dont 100 feel roster but Im down for now. Instead of crying we need to discuss matchups and strategy for Tennessee
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Not being 100 aside, i do beleive we can keep johnson from killing us. I dont want VY running all over the placve on 3rd and longs and during passing downs…
We will need to keep VY n check.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:21 am
What Up Nation?
Overall I am quite pleased with the 53 man roster, sure there are a couple of things I would have done differently, but I’m not a coach, so what do I know?
I’m stoked that Loper made the cut, the guy has good size and experience and can be a backup for Gallery. Barnes can back-up Henderson at LT. Now we just gotta move Walker to RT and put B-Camp in at RG when he is ready (hopefully soon).
I would have liked to see Stevie B picked over Eugene, but not over MM34. Hopefully we won’t see Eugene much except for special teams. If Stevie B gets picked up by another team, we gotta get Jerome Boyd on the practice squad! I’d take ‘em both on the PS if it were me. Eugene Stinks!
I was also hoping that Manase Tonga would be kept, he shows promise as a blocking FB. Hopefully we get him on the PS too. I hope Cartwright can be utilized at the FB position as well.
I was surprised to see Richardson cut. I liked that guy and I wish him the best.
Whoever said THoward would get cut was obviously high.
Go Raiders (1-0)!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:21 am
We should be looking to get some help at WR, we have some of most inconsistent WR’s. I don’t even understand how Yamon made the team with his drops and fumbles. we should be going after TJ houshmandzadeh, I also like James Hardy.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Tennesee defense has took hits the last two offseasons. Their pass defense gets rolled at times and their pass rush isnt what it used to be. I like our chances to move the ball and score some TDs
September 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
brian, i have been on board all preseason. i don’t trust al to stay outta the broth. first this then we are playing vanilla d
September 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
al’s showing the same tendencies of ruining the season
September 5th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Hey Thec!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Vegas Raider…..Hey Mon! lol…..but stopping VY from picking up 3rd and longs is key. I say use Howard to spy. He has skills to do so.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Tennesee defense has took hits the last two offseasons. Their pass defense gets rolled at times and their pass rush isnt what it used to be. I like our chances to move the ball and score some TDs
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Tennesee pass D is bad, they do miss the D that had before but they got rid of all the players that made the D work, Bosh, and worth, those 2 were the D…
We are going to throw the football against tennesee…
Hue is going t open it up out the gates, and let them have it…
We win this one, and its not going to be close….
September 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
One week to go!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
LMN, what up? Where have you been???
September 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Hobs how do you figure we playing vanilla d? based on preseason where we wont tip our hand?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
al’s showing the same tendencies of ruining the season
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Why, because he overrode a few coaches (supposedly) on the backup S?
You think he is the only owner/GM who has made the ultimate decision on the 40th guy on the roster?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I’m a little confused.Does Norco like the English or not?!!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Vegas Raider…..Hey Mon! lol…..but stopping VY from picking up 3rd and longs is key. I say use Howard to spy. He has skills to do so.
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thats what I was thinking have some spy him who is fast and big enough to bring is A$$ down…
September 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
La Melissa just in time eh?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Vegas Raider…..Hey Mon! lol…..but stopping VY from picking up 3rd and longs is key. I say use Howard to spy. He has skills to do so.
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Good call on the Howard spy sitch.
Right up his ally, use his speed and allow 6 yard gains to be a success, lol.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Thec i totally agree Hue will try to attack them but we still have to not ignore running the ball so the play action game can be effective.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
I hope to see them stack the box ike most teams did last year…. I pray for 8 in the box….
We have a real passing game boys…If they do stack the box they will get lit up…
September 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Vegas….Hey Mon! Howard spying on the Qb isnt same as playing the rb toting the rock
September 5th, 2010 at 9:31 am
My only concern with them stacking the box is blitzing like crazy and getting plenty of lick on our QB.
Screens can be the great equalizer to the blitz, if timed well and called at the right times.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Thec i totally agree Hue will try to attack them but we still have to not ignore running the ball so the play action game can be effective.
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Running the ball is crucial and campbell really sells the play action pass….
September 5th, 2010 at 9:32 am
How many job you have B?
Two job!!!!
Listen, I am the DA, the PA, work for the DEA, and dance at the T & A on wEEK-ends!!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Thec i highly doubt Fisher stacks box all game. He a smart coach and ppl know our pass game has upgraded
September 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
On that note, off to the Bernalillo wine festival.
Raider On!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Vegas why is it a concern to you? If campbell hurt then Grad comes in like you wish
September 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
With Hue we have shown we can execute the screens, The right calls at the LOS from Campbell based on his reads will determine the success…
If tenn has watch film they wont stack the box, I am just hoping they think its the same old Raiders…
September 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
VR is too funny hahahahahaha
September 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Fisher will stack the box until we start running Dmac on the outside.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Thec for anyone in week 1 to assume anything would be stupid. Everyone is 0-0. For all you know rams may beat cards and come to oak 1-0
September 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
fire, al’s not like all other gm’s and owners. they don’t often call up in the middle of a game and call a play.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Neilb…..is fisher is that stupid then expect to be up 7-0 real fast
September 5th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Hobs dont believe that bull
September 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
I don’t think Fisher is stupid.I think we are.Anyone want to bet that the first Raider running play is Dmac up the middle?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Now on defense I believe we can take advantage of their weak ass OTs. All preseason the RT has been abused and Roos the LT is nothing special. Houston ans Shaughnessy you are on notice
September 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
You guys need to read this article I came across!!
Report: Al Davis overrules decision to cut Mike Mitchell
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 5, 2010 10:09 AM ET
Remember Mike Mitchell? He was the No. 47 overall pick in the 2009 draft, the safety from Ohio University that Mike Mayock and the rest of the nation of draftniks thought Oakland took about five rounds too early.
On Saturday, Mitchell was reportedly the subject of a behind-the-scenes battle between Raiders owner Al Davis and the team’s coaching staff. We’ll let you guess who won.
Let’s back the story up for a minute. 2010 Seventh-round Raiders safety Stevie Brown practiced on Saturday. He spoke with the media about making the team. But when the Raiders officially released their cuts Saturday afternoon, they still had one move left to make.
Here’s where it gets fun.
A former Raiders employee-turned Florida radio host Andy Slater said that Brown was going to get the axe on his Twitter page. This was hours before he news came out. He also reported that “everyone in the organization” except Al Davis wanted to cut Mitchell instead of Brown. Davis essentially wanted to avoid the P.R. hit and admit he made such a big mistake last year. (Maybe Davis told them Mitchell “is a great player. Get over it.”)
Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune breaks down the timeline of Slater’s tweets, which are fascinating. It’s hard to doubt him when he nailed the news before it happened.
Apparently the coaching staff pushed hard for Brown, who also has impressed teammates. But after the Raiders couldn’t find a taker for Mitchell in a trade, they cut Brown. (Even if they didn’t officially mention it on their website until very late last night.)
“Let me be clear, for those tweeting me on Mitchell/Raiders, coaches do NOT want him. Addition by subtraction,” Slater wrote.
But as we know, coaches don’t always get what they want. Especially in Oakland.
Just another day in Raider Nation.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
” THIS IS THE GREATEST OFF SEASON EVER”….wait, they just released stevie brown….ohhh nooo…this is the worst off season ever” ..you guys are dumb!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Neilb….why be so negative and call us stupid off the bat? I dont care if first play is dmac between tackles as long as oline blocks? How would you feel if dmac springs open a big run to start off? I believe the gguy will do better than the haters can believe
September 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
One teams misery!!
Denver Post’s Mike Klis reports Broncos HC Josh McDaniels and GM Brian Xanders admitted their own mistakes Saturday in making final cuts to the Broncos’ roster. Now, if the Broncos’ football operation bosses can do something about their initial player evaluation process. McDaniels and Xanders set the 53-man roster while dumping an armored truck worth of dead money in their wake. Among the more notable player moves were the release of DE Jarvis Green, who will collect $3.255 million without ever stepping on the field for the Broncos, and TE Marquez Branson, who had been the team’s top receiving tight end through the offseason and preseason. Popular and productive WR Brandon Stokley was placed on injured reserve until a settlement terminates his contract, which has already paid him $600,000 in bonuses this year. “It’s hard to make it as a backup slot receiver,” Stokley said. “I think that was the main thing. And one that doesn’t play special teams. So I think all that added up to me being released.” The team also released backup OLB Darrell Reid, whose offseason knee surgery made him a candidate for the physically unable to perform (PUP) list, and OG Seth Olsen, a fourth-round pick in 2009. And then there was the most startling admission of all, that giving up a future first-round draft pick (which turned out to be Seattle FS Earl Thomas at No. 14 overall this year) for CB Alphonso Smith a year ago was an unfortunate error in judgment. Smith, who received a $2.15 million signing bonus as the No. 37 overall selection in the 2009 draft, was traded to Detroit in exchange for TE Dan Gronkowski, a seventh-round pick in the same draft who will replace the disappointing Branson as the Broncos’ new receiving tight end. The teams also traded undisclosed draft picks. The one-day total of wasted money: $6.01 million on Green, Smith and Stokley.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
SharkCatcher lol
September 5th, 2010 at 9:47 am
4 Real…….
If that happened I’d be the first person to say I was wrong.I’m not down on Dmac’s ability as a running back,I’m down on the Raiders use of his talents.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Thoughts about MM over Brown,
First I have a problem with the story itself, it doesn’t make much sense.If the story was about keeping Eugene over Brown it would sound more accurate. I don’t trust anything that I hear on sports talk radio. According to the media, Cable got fired last year, Jim Harbrough is our new coach and Matt Leinart is our new starting QB who is subbing for an injured Donavan McNabb which we picked up for a 2nd round pick in last years draft. A draft that we picked Bruce Campbell with the our FIRST pick. Do you see what I’m getting at?
How Brown got cut over Eugene is the true story here. I think that is a bad move. But we are so used to mismanagement at the top that when some talking head pulls something out of he a$$ we all run with it. I don’t remember MM getting burned for TD’s last year becuase he was out of position. I don’t remember that ever being an issue except for average rookie mistakes that are made during practice. But now because some hack in Miami that used to cut film for the Raiders says so its true. I’m sure that this guy is going to be this years Randy Hanson.
But we also have to see what is going to be done with Goethel (does he go on IR or PUP?) If so, does Brown come back? Also what if we want to make a move for someone else on the waiver wire? I think that there are still moves to be made. But i just don’t buy this story until its confirmed by someone that is a trusted source.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Lol i feel so sad for Dungver
September 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
DT42….i agree 100 pct
September 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
# SharkCatcher Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
” THIS IS THE GREATEST OFF SEASON EVER”….wait, they just released stevie brown….ohhh nooo…this is the worst off season ever” ..you guys are dumb!!!
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I agree. Stevie B never even played vs. starters.
Why the Raiders didn’t cut Eugene is beyond me.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Could it have been Michael HUFF over Brown? That would have made more sense…
Unless it just came down to the bottom two players on the roster, and it was Mitchell v.s. Brown?
I feel like there’s a whole lot about this situation we don’t know.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:52 am
damn, Dt….you can sell me a bridge anytime homie…I bet for a living you’re a hostage/suicide negotiator. Well said.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Some people are really dumb. You Can’t compare Brown to Mitchell. Brown is a FS and Mitchell is a SS. If Mitchell is gone who’s gonna back up Branch? Brown or Hiram???? Hiram is the one who must go not Mitchell
September 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
remind me..Eugene was the one that got blasted two years ago in the end zone ..right…?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I also have a feeling Figurs will be cut soon in favor of another roster addition.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Did TJ ever sign with any1?
September 5th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I though Nmandi was talking up Walter Mcfadden also..hey, he’s still on the Squad
September 5th, 2010 at 9:55 am
MR cant wait to read your posts………”blame it on the owner, blame it on the gm whenever he leaves thats when we win….blame it on the Al Al Al Al Al Al Davis blame it on the Al Al Al Al Al Al Davis”
September 5th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Eugene is the one with foot-prints all over his uniform.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Anybody know the deadline to clear waivers. Would like to see QB Brennan and Safety Brown on practice squad.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Shark, the only time i have to work as a hostage negotiator is when these Cowboy fans that live around me watch Romo choke during another playoff game. Then its a full time job for about two weeks.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Then Brown can get promoted when they figure out he is better than Eugene and Huff.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Practise squad I’d like to see:
RB: Manase Tonga(41)
FS: Jerome Boyd(30)
DE: Alex Daniels(71)
DT: Kellen Heard(67)
OG: Alex Parsons(65)
LB: Slade Norris(50)
QB: Colt Brennan(5)
SS: Stevie Brown(27)
September 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
“Shark, the only time i have to work as a hostage negotiator is when these Cowboy fans that live around me watch Romo choke during another playoff game. Then its a full time job for about two weeks”.
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Post of the day!!!
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September 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Lookin thin at DE.
Bring Burgess back?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
who needs their memory refreshed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxTQAqB8Q0Q
September 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Hiram Eugene is the reverse human highlight film
September 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
I think its 24hours
September 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
DT42 is on fiya!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Im not a hater though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdb_t0tbyRE
September 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Burgess? no way. We want DEs that dont suck
September 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I find it hilarious that Burgess was cut
September 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Time to go.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Move Walker to RG, move Barnes to RT, let B-Camp back up Mario at LT, put Gallery and Loper at LG and Veldheer/Satele at center.
Get rid of Carlisle and Pears all-together.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
BigTed….i tend to agree with ya but is Brennan elgible?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I think Cable said he wanted TJ Houszmandeh(How Ever U Spell It)
September 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Burgess was another guy that was going to “show the Raiders” that he was going back to the pro-bowl. Omaha NightHawks here we come!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
BigTed that doesnt seem too bad but you think Walker will be a good pulling guard and can handle a UT?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Wuss Good Bauce?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
BigTed….i tend to agree with ya but is Brennan elgible?
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According to Tafur, but that is not a reliable source.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Im of the few guys who doesnt want a vet WR. I like our unit from spots 1-5
September 5th, 2010 at 10:08 am
RB Samkon Gado cut by the Titans
September 5th, 2010 at 10:08 am
PD81…..cal baby! keenan allen is dope!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
I remember the whole defense b
Playing horrible against the ravens but that was a terrible tackle by Eugene
September 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
this is F@cked news for SB if its true he has a nose for the ball and makes plays. Can we get an OL please samson is not even a back up, carlise servceable as a back up. nick miller should get some more plays at slot or dmac at slot.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
BigTed that doesnt seem too bad but you think Walker will be a good pulling guard and can handle a UT?
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Walker subbed at LG last season, and did good, I don’t see him doing any worse at RG than Carlisle.
The Coaches want B-camp at RG, but I’d rather use him at Tackle because of his strength and speed.
Y’all line Gurus might have a better plan.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Yeah BigTed…..tafur is trash
September 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
They seem to want to make B-Camp a pulling Guard..speed and size.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Eugene made some plays on special teams this preseason, I’ll give him that much. It just doesn’t make much sense keeping him instead of a young upstart like Brown.
I’m not convinced that anyone on the Raider depth chart at FS can actually tackle. The big plays will continue to haunt us, but hopefully good play up front can minimize the big plays.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:12 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Yeah BigTed…..tafur is trash
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No doubt. Jerry does a better job from his recovery bed.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Dirtyhoesdraws lol great moniker i must say!……but no nikky minaj miller shouldnt get time in slot. JLH is that guy and Ford is his backup….dmac goes in slot a few times but not exclusively
September 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
According to Jim Wyatt of the Nashville Tennessean, Raiders LB Thomas Howard is on the Titans’ radar.
Howard would be a great fit for the team, as SLB David Thornton is on the PUP and LB Gerald McRath is suspended until Week 5. Wyatt also adds the the Raiders play the Titans Week 1, so if a trade were to happen it probably wouldn’t be until after the opener.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Keenan Allen will be a cal star…I think its funny that Tedford said he was already better than Desean Jackson was in his junior year
September 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Did you see Loper pull out on that Tonga screen and flatten that DB? Thats what they want, but from B-Camp.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:14 am
burgess wanted to retire and the pats hounded him to come back. his hearts not in it.
you guys continue to muddy up the water on this brown cutting but the point of it is with al at the helm it’s another losing season. he is the only guy who’s been here through the losing making all the decisions because it’s his team. we had a promising off season and preseason and now if his name doesn’t get mentioned he has to rear his ugly head and force his will. nobody cares if he lived on park ave 30-40 years ago, he lives on skid row now. the point is you can expect the same thing out of the raiders if coaches are forced to bow to his will and his players and his play calling.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:14 am
I agree with oak-tone
September 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
We can only hope that Routt and Eugene play better this season than in years past. I never have been high on either of them, but they both had a good off-season, maybe they can turn it around.
Stranger things have happened…
September 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if we pickup a Titan castoff to waterboard before our season opener.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
BigTed…..i dont like Jerry either
September 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
With Eugene’s experiance he is better then Brown NOW. The Raiders are done rebuilding, they want to win NOW. You have to keep the backup that is the best player NOW, not 2 years from now.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
PD81….pac 10 has best qbs in nation as a conf….cant even be denied
September 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Javon Walker got cut?!
shocker.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:17 am
what done is done time for AL to nut up whats on the waver wire OOOOOO line
September 5th, 2010 at 10:17 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
BigTed…..i dont like Jerry either
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He’s OK for a Niner fan.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Hobs wrong! Losing season not in cards 2010 and Al running the show. Long live Al!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Yea the Pac 10 for sure has the best qb’s this year
September 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
dirty hoes draws time to get nasty
September 5th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Ya, Hobs! What’s wrong with you? AFC West is ours for the taking. Al’s got his groove back.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Jerry for sure a 49er……Steve Corkran much better
September 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Preach the truth Tone!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Raiders 19 – Titans 17
Go Raiders (1-0)!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
let the old man go out with a bang next year his son takes over with gruden as the GM
September 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
dirtyhoesdraws lmao……i thought i come up with great monikers but you sir have trumped me
September 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Im feelin a Trade comin real soon
September 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
wonder if CJ’s play in the preseason was for real or not. I’ve only seen a few Raider DBs get worked so bad ( Meangelo, Buchannon) both of those guys didn’t stick on the team much longer.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Oak-Tone,
I’m hip to what you are layin’ down brotha-man!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
big ted raiders 28 – titans 17
September 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Ya know RNO..I kinda felt like he wasn’t trying too hard. A little ropadope?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:25 am
al’s got his groove back? yeah but his old plays are predictable. team has to work that much harder to win. cover one and four man rush and deep pass every play = 7-9 if we are lucky
September 5th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Norco Bob Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Hobs,..is that your thing?..come in here and show everyone how unhappy you are?…that position is filled with 2 losers,..MR and old man kell,…2 bitter jealous losers…dont be like them.
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Yes, and Norco is our shining Rainbow of Peace and Tranquility .
September 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
BigTed……my prediction as of now Raiders 30 Oiltans 20
September 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Mornin, Hobs, R8, Brien, NATION.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
This is why we win AFC West..We are better than the Donkeys and Chefs. Chargers are due to implode, seriously. Prediction: we take devision with only 9-7 record.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
wonder if CJ’s play in the preseason was for real or not. I’ve only seen a few Raider DBs get worked so bad ( Meangelo, Buchannon) both of those guys didn’t stick on the team much longer.
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I hope he is just recouping from his Hamstring.
I wouldn’t say he got burned, just one step too slow, I think he can fix it.
Go CJ37!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:27 am
CJ what he is not playin well at all even the 3rd team burned him
September 5th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Ya know RNO..I kinda felt like he wasn’t trying too hard. A little ropadope?
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I don’t know, I’m not to worried about it. Routt is a good CB when he can work the sidelines (bad in the slot). I think we have two rookies that can play the slot. I think the guy is still recovering from his injury and is not up to speed yet. His whole game is his speed, with out it he is a liability. Will have to watch him at Tenn.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Hobs you have zero proof of such for 2010
September 5th, 2010 at 10:28 am
i liked him over routt but now i changed my mind
September 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
brian, you have zero proof as well.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Let Routt start, its only VY! Its not like we are playin Manning or a top ten QB, its F’in VY!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Marshall is calling the defense and Hue calling the offense. Al Davis will obviously have his opinion but if you win then Al approves. Hobs chill out man
September 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Morning Raccoon,
Whats your opinion on whats going on (roster cuts) in Oakland?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Hobs…close your Laptop and go back to your home under the bridge until you are less negative.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I have proof, 151 proof, Rum and Coke, yum!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Hobs its preseason……why would we fully tip our hand so our week 1 opponent can be on our stuff?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:32 am
watch in the tenn game mother F’s better bring the hat or get the F out of oakland
September 5th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Right now the Raiders are undefeated!!!!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I’m droppen BOWS
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I wanna hear some new news
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Hobs on example to shut u up…..how about Marcel Reece screen plays and his wheel route deep as a fullback? That’s vintage Al Davis lol
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I don’t even know the name of 1 Tenn WR.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
From RFN:
To all Raiders fans in the NYC area
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Next Sunday we finally get a place to call our own as Peter Dillon’s Bar becomes the first Raiders bar in the NYC area !!!
The address is 130 E 40th street ( located between Lexington and 3rd avenue )and though there are no big screen TV’s or food served at the place there are plenty of large screen TV’s , ice cold beer and they allow deliveries from the many great resaurants in the area .
By Wed I will have pictures posted of our glorious banner and the Jolly Roger flag that will hang from the front of it every Sunday and I hope us Raiders fans here take advantage of this situation for it took a long time to convince the owners that there are enough of us to make this work .
GO RAIDERS !!!!!!!!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am
We have one of the best records in the league!!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am
oak-tone who were you in your previous name? can’t remember but your another al davis propagandist, i don’t even think your a fan of the raiders….just al. why don’t you check and see if daddy needs a diaper change.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am
RNO that solid proof for damn sure!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
al davis doesn’t like screen plays, too dallas cowboy
September 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
From RFN:
To all Raiders fans in the NYC area
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Next Sunday we finally get a place to call our own as Peter Dillon’s Bar becomes the first Raiders bar in the NYC area !!!
The address is 130 E 40th street ( located between Lexington and 3rd avenue )and though there are no big screen TV’s or food served at the place there are plenty of large screen TV’s , ice cold beer and they allow deliveries from the many great resaurants in the area .
By Wed I will have pictures posted of our glorious banner and the Jolly Roger flag that will hang from the front of it every Sunday and I hope us Raiders fans here take advantage of this situation for it took a long time to convince the owners that there are enough of us to make this work .
GO RAIDERS !!!!!!!!
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thats Hard…How many other frnachises can say that…
September 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Dirty Rac……thats great news for the Raider brothers out in the Apple
September 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Raider Plus++
QBs, RBs, TEs, DBs, DL,
Raider Negitive –
OL, LB
Thats alot more pluses then negitives, I’m thinking 10-6!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Raiders 27 – titans 13
September 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
look all i am saying is al needs to keep his contributions to a bare minimum and we WILL have a nice season, but when he starts dicking around with forcing his will it can only end badly. he’s making sure everyone knows it’s his team so that if cable manages to make something of it he can take credit.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Al Davis sure doesnt like screen plays cant help notice Ive seen it alot in preseason lol…..Hobs you are losing bad
September 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
now i have said my peace. i hope i am wrong and i will eat my words if i am.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Al should crack the whip….his team his money…….BAUCE!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
have you seen a lot of screens in the past in our glory years? so basically your admitting al runs the plays?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
# dirtyhoesdraws Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
big ted raiders 28 – titans 17
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I like it!
To me, the Tight-uns are one of the best coached teams in the league today. They will not make many mistakes, so we gotta be on our game.
I also think their defensive front four looks pretty good and could give us fits on third and long. We gotta be able to move the ball on 1st and 2nd downs.
One place I see we have a distinct advantage is our passing offense vs. their secondary. This will help us move the ball down-field, but becomes less of an advantage in the red-zone. I expect to see some of our drives stutter and result in field-goals.
Another advantage we have is our secondary vs. the tit-ones passing offense. I expect Aso and Co. to shut down the passing game – leaving it up to CJ2K to put the game on his shoulders.
I expect a few big runs from CJ2K, but no more than 2 TDs.
This is one of the toughest games on our schedule this season, but I think we eek out a win on the foot of Seabass.
Go Raiders (1-0)!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Hobs thats weak! I cant stand the well if im wrong bs…..already finding an out
September 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Thec, wish I was there bro…I would love to show my support!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
yep it’s his team and he is accountable for being the worst team of the last seven years and that includes the lions who didn’t who took a season off. something to be proud of there. nobody except al to blame
September 5th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Always been Oak-Tone. Usually don’t post..just read the dribble.
And been A Raiders fan since 1974, I was 6 years old. Al Davis has brought us to 5 superbowls and one 3. There aren’t too many owners or teams that have done better. And many haven’t even been to the show.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Thec07 Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Raiders 27 – titans 13
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Sure hope so. I’m worried about not having Bush. Do we have another RB that can Ball?
Raiders 17 Titans 14, will be on the edge of my seat all game long. Man I love the easy wins and blowouts. Close ones make me stress.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
r8eray Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Morning Raccoon,
Whats your opinion on whats going on (roster cuts) in Oakland?
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Loper over Morris was a good call.
Mitchell over Brown is a good call. We need them both. Brown has a much better chance of clearing.
I had hpoe for Tonga, maybe a PS player… try again next year.
Todd Watkins, besides a few pre-season games nothin there, so good cut.
Jay Richardson, Ahhh not to sure about this. Leave us thin/lite at DE. Although we do have several OLB that can play DE on 3rd ect..
September 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Won 3..
September 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
nope not finding an out, truly hope they win but cannot win with al’s play calling. if al wants to win he has to let his coaches coach.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
No Hobs pay attention if Al is such the play calleer u suggest he is and he hates screen plays why is it a part of our gameplan in 2010? Hypocrite alert
September 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Been a fan since 1974 too! The year I was born at Kaiser in Heyward.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Im thinkin Bennett will play well….Just dont let Cart-Wrong play
September 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Jay Richardson, Ahhh not to sure about this. Leave us thin/lite at DE. Although we do have several OLB that can play DE on 3rd ect..
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Jay was our best run stuffing DE, Oh nooooooooooooooo
September 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
funny you just told me al loves screen plays and i told you he doesn’t. then i pointed out that you are suggesting he calls the plays if he loves screen plays.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Dirty Rac……thats great news for the Raider brothers out in the Apple
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Yes sir… RAIDER ON OUR NY Bro’s.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Got to run, Later Nation!!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Cleveland Browns
Detroit Lions
Houston Texans
Jacksonville Jaguars
Have never been to a superbowl.
Minnesota Vikings (0-4) 1970, 1974, 1975, 1977
Buffalo Bills (0-4) consecutively 1991-1994
Cincinnati Bengals (0-2) 1982, 1989
Philadelphia Eagles (0-2) 1981, 2005
San Diego Chargers (0-1) 1995
Atlanta Falcons (0-1) 1999
Tennessee Titans (0-1) 2000
Carolina Panthers (0-1) 2004
Seattle Seahawks (0-1) 2006
Arizona Cardinals (0-1) 2009
Have been but never won.
Hobs you can be a fan of one of those teams..Good Luck.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
When kiffin was coaching was that Al’s offense? Callahan in 03? Norv I guess running Al’s offense in SD cuz its same one we have when he was in oakland!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Jay Richardson, Ahhh not to sure about this. Leave us thin/lite at DE. Although we do have several OLB that can play DE on 3rd ect..
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Jay was our best run stuffing DE, Oh nooooooooooooooo
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Lamar Houston wears that number now.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Finally Andy Slater aka Willis Da Raider (tho he’s a Panthers fan) gets some national exposure. God help RF.net now, they’ll lap it up and probably increase prices for people to join up to hear “inside rumors” being leaked from within Alameda to Andy Slater which is what RF.net lives on.
If there’s anything i look forward (sorry to those who like RF.net) is that the Raiders force legal action and close that site down, sue for recompensation.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Hobs no i didnt! You are really embarrasing yourself…read pposts again take notice of ? marks and the lols…..comprehension is key for you. I clearly was mocking you…come u acting like MR NOW
September 5th, 2010 at 10:47 am
al has a love for the long ball but besides that it’s usually the defense he has his hand in. you suggested al put in the screen play with reece not me.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
If we can keep CJ at bay, meaning under 150, and a score, while putting someone on VY so that he doesnt run for 1st downs on 3rd and longs, we blow them out…
September 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Ha RNO….i was born at Kaiser in Oakland!
September 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am
comprehension is not your strong point, did you not say this….”Hobs on example to shut u up…..how about Marcel Reece screen plays and his wheel route deep as a fullback? That’s vintage Al Davis lol”?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Hobs no i was merely putting an example of using fullback as a weapon is not Al’s forte you on the other hand acting like a woman and trying to lie to justify your nonsense
September 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
HOBS COME ONE! lol….did you not see question mark with the LOL…..u know what word “vintage” means? Anyone on here can see im killin you
September 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
all i said was al davis doesn’t like screen plays, he likes the long ball
September 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Cleveland Browns
Detroit Lions
Houston Texans
Jacksonville Jaguars
Have never been to a superbowl.
Minnesota Vikings (0-4) 1970, 1974, 1975, 1977
Buffalo Bills (0-4) consecutively 1991-1994
Cincinnati Bengals (0-2) 1982, 1989
Philadelphia Eagles (0-2) 1981, 2005
San Diego Chargers (0-1) 1995
Atlanta Falcons (0-1) 1999
Tennessee Titans (0-1) 2000
Carolina Panthers (0-1) 2004
Seattle Seahawks (0-1) 2006
Arizona Cardinals (0-1) 2009
Have been, but never won.
Hobs, You want the link to any of their blogs??
September 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Hobs you are dismissed….you just not smart enough now go back into kiddie pool and let us Raider adults discuss our upcoming season
September 5th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Wave white flag Hobs…..u going in circles like Luther Vandross…..Hue calling screen plays suggest Al aint calling plays………………now we moving along
September 5th, 2010 at 10:55 am
yeah brian you are really killing me. oh stop. you just play the same old game with everyone you disagree with about al. your only job is to defend him. what do you get? free tickets? is he your dad? are you herrera? does your job include wiping his drool? tell me how many wins with al davis at the helm and where those wins will be.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
brian do you even like the raiders? are you that charger fan who used to say chocolate rain all the time and call everyone lemmings?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Kellen Heard, Shaun Bodiford, Alex Parsons (No. 65, anyway), Manase Tonga are back. Practice squad, I presume.
2 minutes ago via web
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Some of the youngins are back
September 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
RF.net sucks…..bunch of losers on there……silvernblack.com has a bunch of wimps on there too….nada worse than the punks at FIB
September 5th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Hobs, please stop with the AL whining.
Team is much improved.
Have some FUN.
September 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Morning Fellas
September 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Hobs….we are done here…..move along lil fella u just got put to sleep wwith relative ease
September 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Hobs are you here starting fights again?
September 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
We will have 9 to 10 wins this year. Al Davis is at the Helm now..but come season opener it will be Cable, Hue, Marshall and the rest of the coaching staff.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Who is Guard Daniel Loper?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Raider Lenny Williams…..uh oh oh oh oh oooooooooh!
September 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
339. Mornin Len!
September 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am
so you think al let’s his coaches coach? on defense?
September 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Manase Tonga shall see the field this year…….bank on it…….BAUCE!
September 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Back at ya Nnamdi
September 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Every Ex-Coach says he does…But I guess you think they are all liars..
September 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
336. I like Kellen Heard. Funny kid who’ll rip your head off on the field but lacks technique.
Could be a project. I hope the Raiders keep him around…
September 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
347. Some FB depth would be nice…
September 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Al Davis rules….remember that tv show I want to Work for DIDDY? they need one for Al Davis…..i’ll win
September 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
# RaiderLen Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Kellen Heard, Shaun Bodiford, Alex Parsons (No. 65, anyway), Manase Tonga are back. Practice squad, I presume.
2 minutes ago via web
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Some of the youngins are back
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We gotta get Stevie B and Alex daniels!
No Knuckleheads!
September 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Len good to see ya…..you there sept 19th?
September 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
336. I like Kellen Heard. Funny kid who’ll rip your head off on the field but lacks technique.
Could be a project. I hope the Raiders keep him around…
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Yep.
I watched him abuse the Seattle scrub guard.
Real athletic and explosive for a big guy.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
brian you have put nothing to rest, you do this all the time and people get tired of you so they ignore you. not me. what have you proved? why do you defend al so much, what has he given you besides the worst record since our last superbowl
September 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
mornin’ yall, damn crazy to know this time next week we’re watching the game.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Fat Lump said Carroll would pickup Leinart within minutes of being released. Even his copy & paste material is retarded.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
the whole NFL knows AL likes long ball thats the problem and if you cant run up the gut with bush out then you better throw the screen pass time to time.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 5th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Len good to see ya…..you there sept 19th?
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Brien, what up!?
The 19th is TBD. 80% yes.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:06 am
how is this any different then the last seven years. al wants to win now because his earthly presence is fading fast. your telling me he’s going to let his coaches coach and get all his glory?
September 5th, 2010 at 11:07 am
new post
September 5th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Cable said Bush wouldn’t need a cast when he first got injured. So what do I see….Bush in a cast. Even the team Doctors give Cable the business.
September 5th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Can someone that knows the titens yes TiTens break down there strengths on the D
September 5th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I didnt know they had Strengths at defense
September 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
# BigTed707 Says:
June 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Daniel Loper
Age: 28
Height: 6-6 Weight: 320
Assets: A good pass protector with a massive physique. Uses his long arms to keep defenders at bay. Is quick and agile with good footwork, sliding and mirroring well. Reads blitzes and makes good decisions.
Flaws: A finesse blocker who doesn’t exploit his size and leverage like he could. Gets driven backward in the running game and can be bull-rushed.
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Fix this guy Coach!
Sign Mawae Too!
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I called it in June…