Post-practice news, notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 6th, 2010 at 4:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from Raiders practice Monday and the post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:
– More details may or may not be forth coming Wednesday, but Cable gave this brief synopsis of the participation of running back Michael Bush:
“He did some individual work, caught the ball, ran some routs, carried it a little bit,” Cable said. “Limited.”
– Rolando McClain wasn’t the only member of the Raiders to begin fixating on Chris Johnson, the Tennessee Titans running back who gained 2,006 yards last season and will be aimed straight at the Raiders’ oft-criticized run defense.
At a recent practice, defensive coordinator John Marshall was heard invoking Johnson’s name when the defense was slow to seal the perimeter. It’s been ongoing since the schedule was released.
“They’ve been talking about Chris Johnson and Steven Jackson all summer because they’re the top two rushers coming back from last year,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “Coach Marshall, coach (Mike) Waufle and coach (Lionel) Washington, they’ve been keying on it, talking about it a lot.”
Kelly thinks defending Johnson rests with winning at the line of scrimmaging and getting defenders to the ball.
“Penetration. Make him stop his feet and to get as many guys around him (as possible). All the film we’ve been watching, it has been one or two guys, and they still haven’t brought him down. He still broke some tackles. So, we’re going to try to get as many guys as we can around him and just try to slow him down.
“A great player like that, you can’t really just always shut him down because they use him in the passing game. So, it’s going to be real hard to take him out of the game. We just want to limit him.”
Kelly sounds fine with loading up to stop Johnson and rolling the dice on Titans quarterback Vince Young.
“I’d probably take my chances. Chris Johnson, he did everything, 2,000 yards,” Kelly said. “I’d rather put eight or nine in the box and try to slow him down and put the game in Vince’s hands, even though Vince is an excellent athlete and a good quarterback. I would rather take my chances with Vince than Chris Johnson, that’s just a fact.”
Cable wasn’t willing to take it that far, but conceded keeping Johnson under control is Job 1.
“He’s probably the best there is in this league,” Cable said. “He’s got a tremendous group blocking for him, and good tight ends, the quarterback is a threat, also, so you can’t put all your focus on one guy, and he’s got good players around him. ”
– Punter Shane Lechler has been around long enough to know previous training camps and preseasons have provided false optimism, but is of the opinion there is legitimate reason to be more enthused this season.
“We have said a lot of stuff in the past just because everybody says that,” Lechler said. “I don’t know if you’d say we didn’t mean it back then but you can back it up a little right now. We’ve got a real legit chance this year.”
– Following the Chicago game, Cable said he wanted to see McClain “pull the trigger” as far as making plays on defense. He is satisfied with the progress since then.
“It’s happening and it’s been fun to see,” Cable said. “I think he understands now what’s needed of him and what we’re asking him to do. I look forward to seeing him play on Sunday.”
Regarding McClain’s veteran-like demeanor, Cable said, “He’s not one to dwell on things. He’s going to move forward and not let the last one beat you. He’s well schooled that way. There’s no reason for him or anybody else to be uptight or nervous. We have a good football team. It’s just a matter of going out and playing our way and our purpose.
“It’s not beating ourselves. Go play the opponent. Line up and play them with everything we’ve got and eliminate negative football. That’s what we’ve learned and we’ve figured out that that’s what we are.”
– Stanford Routt was happy to have won the job as the starting left cornerback over Chris Johnson (the Raiders’ Chris Johnson) but repeated his preseason thoughts that he really has no idea what Cable is talking about with regard to a new attitude.
“I think my mind is maybe a little more clear, not so much BS going on mentally,” Routt said. “But I really can’t put a finger on what you’re asking. Everything stayed the same. I’m still the same guy. I still study the same. I eat the same foods. I’m the same.”
– Any thoughts the Raiders had of bringing in Tony Richardson (if they had any at all) were erased when the fullback re-signed with the Jets a day after being released.
– Defensive end Alex Daniels, defensive end Jay Richardson and cornerback Joey Thomas cleared injured/waivers and were moved to injured reserve. They may at some point receive injury settlements and move on.
– The Raiders take Tuesday (the mandatory day off for teams that play Sunday) off before resuming practice Wednesday.
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September 6th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
2010 Will Be A Year of Destiny For The Raiders!
September 6th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Again the list of former Raiders that are on NFL
rosters this year. Lets hope they don’t amount to
much:
Fabian Washington Baltimore
Chris Carr Baltimore
Cornell Green Buffalo
Paul Hubbard Buffalo
Tyler Brayton Carolina
Gibril Wilson Carolina
Eric Barton Cleveland
Renaldo Hill Denver
Isiah Ekejiuba Detroit
Charles Woodson Green Bay
Darnell Bing Houston
David Nixon Houston
Kirk Morrison Jacksonville
Jake Grove Miami
Quentin Moses Miami
Gerard Warren New England
Randy Moss New England
Danny Clark New Orleans
Barry Sims San Francisco
Joe Nedney San Francisco
Mike Williams Seattle
Chris Clemons Seattle
Jon Alston Tampa Bay
Kerry Collins Tennessee
DeAngelo Hall Washington
Phillip Buchanon Washington
September 6th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Its very simple. No turnovers. You stop or contain CJ and you win the game.
The end
September 6th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Ravens just traded Mark Clayton to the Rams after getting Housh. According to Adam Schefter’s tweets the Ravens aren’t done with tweaking their roster. Is he messing with the Nation again? WTF
Adam Schefter’s twitter
Filed to ESPN: Ravens are in serious trade discussions with the Oakland Raiders in acquiring CB Nnamdi Asomugha
September 6th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
The Titans game will be a battle of the trenches and field position. Neither team will find the end zone very often, making field position even more important. It will be a battle of field goal kickers…Bironas vs. Jano. Something along the lines of 18-15 in OT, or if each team finds the end zone, possibly a 22-19 score.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Can anyone tell me why we kept Eugene over Brown? Am I missing something about this guy? He is comparable to our ole’ boy Stu.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Sorry I didn’t read down far enough. Some blogger named Baltimore Warrior is messing with us…
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2010/9/6/1672950/more-breaking-news-ravens-trade?ref=yahoo
September 6th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RAvens have Cris Carr, Fab Washington and now they want Aso? Tell them they can have Eugene and CJ for Boldin and Rice.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
# Carl Weathers Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Can anyone tell me why we kept Eugene over Brown? Am I missing something about this guy? He is comparable to our ole’ boy Stu.
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The only thing I could come up with is that Eugene must be more consistent on special teams than Brown is.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
If they released Brown they could keep him after he cleared waivers. This way they have both. Brown wasn’t going to start unless 2 guys get injured anyway.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Brown’s not well rounded enough and needs seasoning. Always around the big play though., Hope he develops into a play maker…
September 6th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
5. Granted its only pre season but the Titans looked like they were having trouble keeping Young safe.
Hope we generate the big pass rush and our LBs can contain the scramble.
Lets take him out of the game…
September 6th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
If they released Brown they could keep him after he cleared waivers. This way they have both. Brown wasn’t going to start unless 2 guys get injured anyway.
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Good point…Eugene and/or Mitchell wouldn’t clear waivers probably (or maybe they would?), so the safer play was to do it with Brown. Uncle Al is schooling the coaching staff on how to play the roster game. This is a perfect example of part of the coaching/front office knowledge that Cable lacks and can draw on Al’s experience.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
also, Mitchell isn’t eligible for the practice squad as well, so Brown was the only option. Better to try and keep them all instead of losing Mitchell to FA.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
With Bush I think we have a better offense than Tenn all things considered. We’re not going have to hold Tenn under 17 to win in fact I think they need 24 points to beat us.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
BigTed707 Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
If MBush can go for us, it changes everything we can then play a more physcal style of football instead of just fastbreak wide open style. We can actually pound them pretty good once we have a good lead.
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I hope we can do it without relying on Bush too much. It’s a long season, and I’d like to see his hand get better with minimal risk to it getting worse. Y’know when he’s out there, the opponents will be gunning for that thumb – if someone puts a helmet on it, that could be bad.
Bennett and DMAC can get it done imo.
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Im not so confident in Bennet & DMac holdin down in Bush’s absence but I do agree that we shouldn’t rush him back. He’s a physical runner & what no one has mentioned yet is that even if he’s holding the ball in his right hand, the off hand is the one used for the stiff arm which he uses very well. I, for one am not comfortable with his very valuable thumb out there fending off oncoming defenders. It’s just not a good idea, from what I’ve read about Bennett’s fractures, to rush the recovery. If he re-injures it, the damage could be permanent. Take your time with our stud, were going to need him.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Everything y’all say is true but I think what’s happening is the coaches are seeing what can he do is anything and they’re still protecting his thumb but if he can play with it protected they’re looking at what he can do in some packages.
I don’t think you’ll see him pounding it 30 times but they want the defense to honor his presence because it makes a difference.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
I believed the hype on Stevie Brown, then I saw the Seattle game, the kid is nowhere near being ready to play safety. He missed a ton of tackles, took wrong angles, and was late reacting to plays. Eugene aint Ronnie Lott, but he’s a vet that can step in and play.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Whos the annoucers 4 the game sunday.One timearound 13yrs ago bartending 4 stk n ale about a hour before closing this guy sits down at the bar starts talking football well i went a big raider brag n rant n he was so anti raiders that gave last call n said sir you dont watch much nfl picked up cc n closeing out the check it was dan dierdorf hate that prick.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Everything y’all say is true but I think what’s happening is the coaches are seeing what can he do is anything and they’re still protecting his thumb but if he can play with it protected they’re looking at what he can do in some packages.
I don’t think you’ll see him pounding it 30 times but they want the defense to honor his presence because it makes a difference.
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Ok, just trust the coaches you’re sayin…I’ll try but being a fan of this team for a couple decades makes that a little hard. I’ll try though…with fingers, toes & eyes crossed, lol.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Mitchell is a big bag of hot air, nowhere near Tyvon Branch. Huff is wasted potential, what else can I say?
September 6th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
“Contain the run”
That’s it and that’s the game.
We will see if this defense is up to the task and have learned something from the poor showing against San Fran and Chicago.
Stopping the run means eliminating the big play..60 and 70 yard runs.
That’s the game…oh, and not getting worked over on the screen passes.
If they do this they win. If not..it will be more of the same…”we a good defense if not for the big plays”
That’s a cop out. Time to step it up. Chris Johnson and Stephen Jackson. we will know a lot about this season after the Rams game!
September 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Mitchell is a situational guy. Not a starter. He’s the ESPN highlight reel guy.
Hopefully he gets a couple of momentum changing big hits or forces a fumble.
But a starter he is not. Tyvon Branch stepped up big time from his suggested role as a special teams gunner….and Huff is the only guy on the roster that can play center field.
Mitchell can hit but can’t cover. Too bad he wasn’t a little bit bigger…he would be a nice linebacker
September 6th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Having michael bush suit up would be huge. But he should only play if he’s healthy We don’t need Bush playing at half speed for the first 6 games and then having to shut it down later
September 6th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Without a new contract, Randy Moss feels unwanted
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 6, 2010 7:15 PM ET
Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss is heading into the final year of his contract, and he doesn’t feel good about that.
“When you have done so much and put so much work in, it kind of feels like I am not wanted,” Moss told William Bendetson of CBSSports.com. “I am taking that in stride and playing my final year out and whatever the future holds is what it holds, but it is kind of a bad feeling — feeling not wanted.”
Moss is in the same boat as Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who also hasn’t gotten a new deal as he heads into the final season of his current deal. But while the Patriots have said publicly that they’re confident they’ll get something worked out with Brady, there’s been less discussion of Moss’s contract.
At age 33, Moss insists that he’s worthy of a new contract, say, “It is not like my production has gone down.” But it appears that Moss will have to keep producing at a high level in 2010 and hope that he’ll get a big deal in 2011, either in New England or elsewhere.
Moss says he gets that. But he doesn’t have to like it.
“I am a little older and understand the nature of the business — the older you get the more your skills supposedly diminish, but I think I am getting wiser in how to use my physical skills,” Moss said. “That’s the frustrating part when you put so much heart and desire into things and feel like you are not wanted.”
September 6th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
All that Stevie Brown hew and cry was laughable, people overeact to everything they read. Jeremy Ware I can definitely see that he stepped in and was good from day one. McFadden same thing. Stevie Brown was more lucky than good.
Not trusting the coaches that here now makes no sense to me. They aren’t respnsible for the last 7 years, Cable has done nothing but fight like hell to straighten this team out. Did he make mistakes dman right he did but this is his fist rodeo he had to be brought up to speed and grab this team by the throat and force feed it confidence. Now they’re starting to really believe what he’s been saying. That’s all you’re seeing now is a believe in themselves plus an infusion of young talented players.
Cable was faced with a monumental task and he’s almost there. These guy’s were just drawing paychecks a couple of years ago now they think they will win. Huge difference!!
September 6th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Maybe I’ve been “Hard Knocked” out but wouldn’t Chancey Washington’s violent running and jarring special teams hits look good in Silver and Black? He’s only 25 and has a huge chip on his shoulder after the Jets made him a last minute cut. After watching our sorry kick coverage in pre season we need more players with attitude and he could possibly hold down the short yardage fort till Bush gets healthy! There’s something to be said about a crowd’s reaction to a monster hit. If Tonga could score a TD on a screen (thank you Hue Jackson for designing screens that are a weapon again) it would be fun to see this kid in an open field! At the very least he’s available for the practice squad!
September 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
The way I see it if they hit us with a big play we turn aorrund and do the same thing to them. We aint holdin’ to n 3 point leads anymore. Teams are going to have to score to beat us.
I have tremendous respect for CJ and VY for that matter but they will have to put up some points to get that win. This ‘08 and ‘09 Raiders we can score and if they’re ready they’ll be down 14 points before they know it.
This defense will play with a lead a lot more often than we’ve seen them play in a long time.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
This (aint) the ‘08 and ‘09 Raiders*
September 6th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
49ers release Nate Davis to pick up Troy Smith
September 6th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
This coach for Boise St. Chris Peterson is one hell of a coach. Here’s a guy that gets zero blue chip players, he does it with junior college trans. and guy’s no one wanted and turns around and beats the top schools in the country year in and year out. Yet his name isn’t mentioned when they talk about the best coaches in the country.
Notre Dame should’ve begged this guy to come to So Bend.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
WHAT???? Fat Kidd you’re lying they cut Nate Davis???
September 6th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I do have more confidence in this staff than any other staff we’ve had since gruden’s tenure. I like the way he’s gotten the guys to buy in to what he’s selling. That said, we’ll find out very early on this year how much these offseason additions have added to the team. I’m still concerned about our run game w/o a healthy bush available but still optimistic about this week & season.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I hope Boise State is the BCS party crasher.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
nate davis is gone from sf.
hes not lying
September 6th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
McClain its time for to get fuking pizzed the fuk off smack a mf in the mouth dig deep and lead us back to the top god damn it.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I am fukin tired of Fn pretender’s on my god damn team grow some fukin nuts and WIN chit.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
SnakeStabler Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Again the list of former Raiders that are on NFL
rosters this year. Lets hope they don’t amount to
much:
Fabian Washington Baltimore
Chris Carr Baltimore
Cornell Green Buffalo
Paul Hubbard Buffalo
Tyler Brayton Carolina
Gibril Wilson Carolina
Eric Barton Cleveland
Renaldo Hill Denver
Isiah Ekejiuba Detroit
Charles Woodson Green Bay
Darnell Bing Houston
David Nixon Houston
Kirk Morrison Jacksonville
Jake Grove Miami
Quentin Moses Miami
Gerard Warren New England
Randy Moss New England
Danny Clark New Orleans
Barry Sims San Francisco
Joe Nedney San Francisco
Mike Williams Seattle
Chris Clemons Seattle
Jon Alston Tampa Bay
Kerry Collins Tennessee
DeAngelo Hall Washington
Phillip Buchanon Washington
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give me back Charles Woodson and Isiah Eukijuba…lol @ quinton mosses and darnell bing
September 6th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
“Penetration. Make him stop his feet and light he’s a$$ up. time to get mean and stop complaining of chit like my thumb. man look at JIM OTTO yes i went their put in the work for the LOVE of the GAME not the PAY *uckers
September 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
11 career tackles between moses and bing. Dont know how the hell was drafting then.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Guy’s relax on McClain I think we’re asking a young guy to be great at a very difficult position before his time. He hasn’t played an NFL game yet. Don’t blame the last 7 years on him.
McClain will be one of the best players we’ve ever picked in time but it’s a matter of time. He’ll get by midseason at worse IMO but let see the game first. And I am sure if he’s healthy you wont be disappointed. We may still have some issues but he aint one of ‘em.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Hopefully he gets a couple of momentum changing big hits or forces a fumble.
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You would at least think you would see it on STs like we did Branch.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Chris Peterson is the best football coach in the country.
I knew he was great when I said him use a four wide set on the goal line. Football coaches are stupid. They bunch everyone up on the goal line and make it harder to run up the middle. Split four wide and it makes it easier to run up the middle.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
I think we got rid of the last LB issue by getting Trevor Scott outta there.
Front 7 is as solida group as I can remember for us!
September 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
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September 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
I think we need to come out early and test their pass defense. 3 WRs with DMac in the backfield should = a lot of space for Miller to work.
Use the pass to set up the running game.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
From twitter…
JayRichardson98
i jus wanna thank all of raider nation and the people who love and support me. my time as a raider has truly been a blessing. thanks again!
September 6th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Fat Kidd
Had it right man, I can’t believe Singletary pulled the trigger on that but Troy is light years ahead of Davis. He wasn’t lying when he said he was frustrated with the kid I thought he was trying to light a fire under him. He lit a fire alright the problem is it was a boot size 16 on fire. OUCH!!
Fat kidd thanks for all the news nuggets you bring to the table. Great job!!
September 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
StankyBrown
It’s an opinion and it belongs to me, I said and I’ll stand behind it until proved right or wrong. Just do what you do which is hate everyone.
I’m comfortable about McClain and his ability, I’ve seen him play and I know what kind of player he can become. That’s what I do project talent, you don’t so do what you do and I’ll do what I do.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
StankyBrown
That’s what I do project talent, you don’t so do what you do and I’ll do what I do.
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Terrific job and track record Priest.
Jamarcus is truly awesome!!
September 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Priest
September 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
You win some and you lose some didn’t cost me anything, besides that’s all you naysayers can think of is nRussell. I’ve been right plenty times.
What have YOU been right about Sweep besides how to get on this blog and regurgitate everyone else’s thoughts.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
time time time no more time. play
September 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
In fact Sweep weren’t you one of these Darren MFadden worshipers.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I need you right this time
September 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Priest.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
After watching the Seattle game, I have come off the ledge with Stevie Brown not making the roster.
He gave up quite a bit in that game, got smoked easily by a 3rd string TE for the 2-point conversion, took an Anthony Dorsett like angle on the first TD, and missed a few tackles as well.
Practice squad seems like the ideal place for him, at this stage in his career.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
As I said McClain is a player you’ll see……….
September 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I was right about DHB wasn’t I?
September 6th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I was right about DHB wasn’t I?
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LMAO
I said repeatedly last year that DHB would have the best career out of Jamarcus, Darren and DHB, and you told me I didn’t know a thing about football.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
JFB
Thanks for being a standup guy, the rest of them went int hiding espeially Hobs Gnarly. He disappeared when he made the PS.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Yeah Ghost you’d compare Stevie Brown to Larry Brown dude get a life. There is no comparison. I Think Larry Brown did go to a probowl as an alternate but he was a 5 year vet compared to a rookie playing scrubs it’s not even a conversation.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
LMAO!
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Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Terrific job and track record Priest.
Jamarcus is truly awesome!!
September 6th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RRRRAAAAAIIIIIDDDDDDEEEERRRRRSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
September 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Earlier you stated that Larry Brown went to a couple of Pro Bowls now you say he might have been an alternate. And I’m the moron. OK. I’m done
September 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I thought mistabrown came here to give his Cleveland Browns some love.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
this kid martin for boise state is runnin his ass off.
hits the hole hard
September 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
San Francisco 49ers head coach Mike Singletary questioned Nate Davis’ work ethic in training camp this year, but decided to keep him on the team’s 53-man roster anyway.
His stay there would prove brief.
The 49ers waived Davis, whom they selected in the fifth-round of last year’s draft, and signed Troy Smith in his place.
Smith was released by the Baltimore Ravens over the weekend in a move that was less than popular among his former teammates.
The 6-foot, 217-pound Ohio State product had been with the Ravens since 2007 and appeared in 14 games during that stretch. At one point he was thought to be the heir apparent to the starting job in Baltimore, but an injury sidelined him and the Joe Flacco era began instead.
He is a dual-threat under center and is known for his mobility when running the ball.
Read more: http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/49ers-cut-nate-davis-sign-ex-ravens-qb-troy-smith/#ixzz0yoB9o5aZ
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Davis would be a good 3rd qb
September 6th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Nate Davis Scouting Report
Position: QB
School & Year/Status: Ball State – Drafted
Jersey Number: #13
Height & Weight: 6′2 – 215 lbs.
Drafted 5.35 in 2009 by SF
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2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
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Nate Davis, QB, Ball State
At one point this past season, many mock drafts and player projections had the Ball State junior going as high as the middle part of the first round. But, an atrocious off-season and mediocre workouts have left behind an unpolished passer, West Virginia’s Pat White and a raw prospect, Sam Houston’s Rhett Bomar.
Despite this, Davis is a very good athlete. He ran a slow 4.95 4o time at the Combine (has run in the mid 4.60s). With good feet movement and balance, he also has one of the most fluid and effortless throwing motions. He does a good job reading defenses and going through his progressions, and has shown good zip on deep outside patterns. Davis’ arm strength is better than above average and he is very accurate while playing from an elevated passing formation such as the shut gun. He is a leader with competitive fire.
On the negative, Davis does not feel the rush well. He wears a glove on his throwing hand, giving him a funky ball grip. He needs to improve his ball security. Davis is a streaky passer who is prone to mistakes. Lacking touch on shorter patterns, complex defenses tend to confuse him. he is a shot gun QB.
A better QB than his late season meltdown has shown, Davis will be a better pro than college QB. He will need time to develop and adjust to the speed of the pro game, but the ability is there. Davis went from a projected late first / early second round pick, to the middle of the third round (possibly the fourth); which should make him want to prove something.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Priest? So what is your break out prediction?
September 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Randy Moss stirring up a little contract controversy in New England.
He’s in his last year, and w/o an extension he’s…sniff…sniff… feeling a little unwanted.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Priest, why are you ragging on Stevie Brown? A guy who put on a Raider uniform and played great football, everything that could have been asked out of him?
September 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
on noise from the preist
September 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
oops Priest
September 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Prediction of what the season, I don’t make predictions of records because injuries are way too much of a part of this game.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
players
September 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
OakGlen you are still singing the same ole tired song? You’re a mental patient.
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Just Win Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I thought mistabrown came here to give his Cleveland Browns some love.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Who’s ragging on Brown? I’m just telling it like it is and fans can’t handle that. THese people are s fickle it’s ridiculous. Everybody was riding Mitchell’s jock then a story comes out and incites them against Mitchell saying Mr Davis is protecting him. And that’s all they needed now all of a sudden Mitchell’s on scholarship all in one day!!.
From rising star to scholarship because a writer said so. Mitchell is twice the player Stevie Brown is but beause Al Davis likes him he’s now a bum. They are flat out GOOOFY!!
September 6th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Who’s ragging on Brown?
# priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Yeah Ghost you’d compare Stevie Brown to Larry Brown dude get a life. There is no comparison. I Think Larry Brown did go to a probowl as an alternate but he was a 5 year vet compared to a rookie playing scrubs it’s not even a conversation.
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We sign a guy to the pre season roster, he plays his ass off, and to you he’s nothing more than a rookie cutting his teeth against scrubs. If he were a great player, what could he have done to convince you of it, other than EVERYTHING that’s asked of him against the scrubs he’s lined up against?
September 6th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
priest, didn’t you claim Russell was great based on college play?
September 6th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I find it hard to believe that Andy Slater has more of a scoop than my boy Jerry Mac.
Maybe ONE coach really wanted Stevie over MM34, but really is that, that uncommon when it comes to cuts on backup players?
Who knows, Stevie Brown could end up a better player than Mitchell, but I doubt he could contribute more next week than Mitchell, or even Eugene could.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
I really don’t know what to expect on Sunday, except we will play better than last year.
Are we still going to play the same vanilla defense? I pray not. The lack of blitzing in the fourth quarter killed us last year.
Will the Raiders run some misdirection on offense? Certainly the screens have looked good in the preseason.
Gradkowski is our best quarterback, but he would never make it through the season uninjured. Somehow I think Boller will end up being our quarterback after Campbell and Gradkowski are injured because our O line is so bad.
In any case I can hardly wait till Sunday.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
priest, we shouldn’t shed a tear over Stevie Brown because he hadn’t done anything yet against anything but scrubs. But we should have been high on Russell because of his college play? Unless of course you have any NFL play to go on where Russell is concerned. Do get at me.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
88,good post! Screw Andy, both MM and Stevie Brown are Raiders,period.Lets focus on Tenn and a CJ at RB and VY at QB. Question, what will my fellow RAIDER fans be doing at 9-55am Sunday Mornin?
September 6th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Did priest just say that he has been right ”plenty of times”?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
No StankyBrown..
September 6th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Oh! get over it Sweep, your feelings still hurt?
You shouldn’t worry about what someone says you are if you’re secure in who you are. Let it go…..
September 6th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Trade DMAC for Arman Shields!
September 6th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Priest,
You are priceless.
It wouldn’t be the same here without you.
It would be better, but not the same.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
97,speak for yourself,not goin happen! With Jruss, if he ever wants to make his family, himself Proud, and serious about it,Ill be pullin for him! So young,way to much money,imo
September 6th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
priest, why shouldn’t we have the same praise for Stevie Brown that you had for Russell? Neither of them have done anything against anything other than either scrubs or college players.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Let’s hear it for our 6′8″ rookie starting center. I knew he’d be a better choice over Satele. He’s a smart kid and will learn quickly. Our center position is now solidified for the next 8-10 years.
Now let’s fix RG & ORT. I think we can safely move Walker into the RG position. Then, we only need to focus on the ORT spot. Next year if we can get BCampbell to grow into OLT, we might be able to move MHenderson over to ORT? He should be able to do OK there. Right now just put someone to the left of Mario and give him blocking help.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
JB Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Let’s hear it for our 6′8″ rookie starting center. I knew he’d be a better choice over Satele. He’s a smart kid and will learn quickly. Our center position is now solidified for the next 8-10 years.
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You bet! Way to go Al!
September 6th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
NOW 105 FIX IT NOW !!!!
September 6th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Gosh TJ..there is just so many…any personal favorites you have?
Here’s one of mine…ok, two.
priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
You’ll see Russell sooner than you think. He is hands down the best QB we have anting else is ridiculous. You’ll see in the next two weeks. Russell can play and has the talent to be great. These other jokers, are just jokers.
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Russell is the future if we have a future Grads is a scrap heap bandaid. Russell has real talent to be great, Grads has no chance. If you want a chance we take it on Russell. Just common sense…….period
September 6th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
oh geeeezzzzzz,
September 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
JB Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Let’s hear it for our 6′8″ rookie starting center. I knew he’d be a better choice over Satele. He’s a smart kid and will learn quickly. Our center position is now solidified for the next 8-10 years.
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You bet! Way to go Al!
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So does that mean Stephen Wisniewski will play RG for ur?
2011 O line
LT = M. Henderson
LG = Galery
C = Veldheer
RG = Wisniewski
RT = B. Campbell
September 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
3rd &1 or 2 are now makable now that we have a powerful center. Move Walker to Rg and 3rd & 3 or 4 will be makable. Powerful beef up front is what makes the difference. Win the LOS battle and more often that not, as long as JaLoser is not your QB, you will win the game.
TJ, I know you know football & you seem to have great loyalty to some players but, there comes a time when you must cut the tie and move on. Satele is not a horse to tie your wagon to. .he may have been a vet but he’s back-up material at best. Let’s all have great support for our new head GIANT, Veldheer. At last a really good Tom Cable tough choice.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Wiznewski will be long gone by the time our pick arrives, if we are lucky, Mike Pouncey will still be there. He can play BOTH center & guard. He should be our pick.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Walker doesn’t want to play right guard.
He made that clear last year.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Kirk Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Walker doesn’t want to play right guard.
He made that clear last year.
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Average players dont play where they want, they play where they are allowed to lol. IMO he is big and slower, so he cant really pull effectively but he would help inside against the larger DT’s we face
September 6th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
LOL. This blog has become a haven for Davis worshipers to dissect every mundane detail of the team to find something to give Al props for.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
102.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
LOL. This blog has become a haven for Davis worshipers to dissect every mundane detail of the team to find something to give Al props for.
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No, this is a blog for people to discuss the Raiders, if it had become what you say it has become then you wouldnt be here.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Al Davis, Tom Cable, and the Oakland Raiders have made their choices and the roster cuts are complete. Some cuts were expected, some were surprises, and some don’t make any sense at all.
Let’s just say, I was worried when I saw the initial cuts, but after seeing the practice squad list, I’m as excited about the upcoming regular season as I was on Friday evening.
The team kept more players at some positions than I expected, and less at others. There are seven wide receivers, only two tight ends, and just one fullback on the roster. This puzzles me.
The good? The offensive line looks much more solid than it did at the beginning of camp.
The bad? Why would you carry seven wide receivers, but only two tight ends and one fullback?
The “Ugh?” Some of the players kept have not be even close to productive, and some that were cut have shown very well.
What follows is my take on where the team got it right, where they went wrong, and the ramifications of the decisions that were made.
We’ll start with the good, stick with me here…
The Good—There’s a New Center in Town
Rookie Jared Veldheer not only made the team, he has been named the starting center. This is great news for Raider fans.
Cable was quoted as saying he wanted to “make us tougher up front.” He succeeded.
The Raiders kept Samson Satele as the back up, and released Chris Morris. Again, this is great news for Raider Nation as they will no longer have to witness Morris blowing his assignment or allowing a defensive tackle to push him right into the quarterback’s lap.
The fans will only have to suffer the inability of Satele if Veldheer gets hurt—God forbid!
The Good—Some Dead Weight at Offensive Guard Is Gone
Brandon Rodd never made any kind of impact for the Raiders. He never played in any regular season games and has spent most all of his time on the practice squad.
Basically, he was getting paid for contributing nothing.
Brandon Rodd cleared waivers, but was not signed to the practice squad. He’s left to attempt to catch on with another team.
Good—Some Dead Weight at Wide Receiver Is Gone
Shaun Bodiford is one of those guys you find yourself rooting for, but he never quite gets to where he should be. 2010 is no exception. Bodiford has one career catch—a 13 yard grab when he was with the Packers.
At times, Todd Watkins shows great talent. Other times he shows that he is completely lost. Paul Hubbard hasn’t shown much of anything but the ability to drop the ball.
With the wealth of young talent the Raiders have at wide receiver, it’s not really a surprise that these three men find themselves on the street.
All of these men have cleared waivers and Bodiford is the only one that was signed to the practice squad.
Overall, I’m pretty happy with the final decisions made at the wide receiver position.
The Bad—Defensive End Went From Being Very Deep to a Little Thin
Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images I really thought Jay Richardson had a great shot at making the 53 man active roster. He’s not spectacular, but he’s steady.
He played the run fairly well and was adequate in the pass rushing capacity. Richardson could have provided some nice depth at defensive end behind Lamarr Houston, Trevor Scott, and Matt Shaughnessy.
Unfortunately, an injury has landed Richardson on the injured reserve. The good news is he will have a chance to make the team next year.
Richard Seymour is still listed as a defensive end, but has been playing at defensive tackle. With Scott starting at outside linebacker, the Raiders have only two defensive ends on the team.
I assume this means that we will see Trevor Scott, Quentin Groves and Kamerion Wimbley getting time at defensive end with Thomas Howard, Ricky Brown, Travis Goethel, or Sam Williams taking their spot at linebacker.
Greyson Gunheim and Alex Daniels were also cut. That means that one of the deepest positions on the team is now one of the most precarious. It could come back to haunt the Raiders if someone goes down with injury.
Gunheim and Daniels have not been signed to the practice squad and are still on the street.
The Bad—The Best Blocking Fullback Is Gone
This is one of the cuts that has left me scratching my head. Manese Tonga proved to be the best run blocking fullback on the roster.
Tonga showed a mean streak, a willingness to get nasty, and the ability to hurt opposing team’s potential tacklers.
It is apparent that offensive coordinator Hue Jackson decided that the offensive threats of Marcel Reece and Rock Cartwright were more important than the great blocking shown by Tonga.
I do not agree.
Reece has not only been bad at run blocking, he hasn’t even shown the desire to do it. He constantly missed blocks due to being tentative and looking scared. This was not the case with Tonga.
The Raiders could have easily cut the unproductive Cartwright to make room for Tonga. This would have made more sense to me, and given the Raiders the ability to run any kind of offense.
But, mine is not the opinion that matters.
With Bush nursing a broken thumb, Darren McFadden will likely get most of the carries. With Reece tippy-toeing in the hole and wiffing on blocks, the run game will suffer greatly until the bigger, more physical Bush is back to 100 percent.
Tonga has cleared waivers and is signed to the practice squad. Hopefully the coaching staff will see that Reece and Cartwright are not going to help much with the running game and give Tonga a shot to prove himself in the regular season.
The Bad—Only Two Tight Ends on The Roster
I don’t understand this cut either. John Owens is not a fantastic player, but he’s serviceable.
Only two tight ends means there will be no true three tight end sets unless the coaches send in a backup tackle or guard to report as eligible.
My biggest concern with this is—what happens if Zach Miller or Brandon Myers go down with injury? Does that mean the team will simply give up on using two tight end sets? It just doesn’t make sense.
I understand that some one had to go to make room for all the players the team wanted to keep, but there were better choices than one that makes the team incredibly thin at tight end.
The team has yet to offer Owens a spot on the practice squad, and he is not listed on NFL.com as having found a home elsewhere either.
His chances to be in the NFL are fading fast.
The “Ugh”—Ricky Brown Still Has a Job
Jamie Squire/Getty Images Ricky Brown must have some sort of blackmail material on Al Davis or Tom Cable. It seems like Brown always makes the team regardless of how bad he looks in coverage, or how many tackles he misses.
I don’t have anything against Brown personally, but I can’t see the advantage of having a player on the roster when that player spends more time in the training room than on the field.
Brown seems to be up to speed on the mental aspect of the game, but he also appears to be made of glass. Davis, Cable, and the Raiders are apparently happy to pay him to sit on the bench with ice on some part of his body.
I don’t understand it, but again, my opinion doesn’t matter.
The good news is Travis Goethel made the final roster and will push Brown to perform. Also, Slade Norris has been signed to the practice squad and will be there if Brown or Goethel get hurt.
The “Ugh”—Hiram Eugene Is Still On The Roster
Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images I have been an advocate for the dismissal of Hiram Eugene for several seasons now. He’s not even average in coverage, and can’t tackle either.
It’s ludicrous to think that Jerome Boyd and the player on the next slide were cut in favor of a player that has repeatedly proven to be below average in every aspect of the game.
I didn’t like Michael Huff retaining his starting job, but I would rather have Huff back there than Eugene.
Both Boyd and the player on the next slide deserve to be on the final roster more than Eugene.
But again, that’s just my opinion, and as such, means nothing to the team.
The “Ugh”—Stevie Brown Is Not On The Final 53 Man Roster
This is without question the worst decision the Raiders have made all off season. Stevie Brown is a play maker that belongs on the team ahead of others that were kept.
When discussing Brown’s ability and production, my colleague Carl Cockerham asked the question, “how much of it was him [Brown] and how much of it was [playing against] second string?”
Good question.
My answer is simple. First string, second string, or third string, it doesn’t matter. If you’re around the ball, you’re around the ball. If you’re making plays, you’re making plays—period.
Brown was always around the ball and always made plays. Two interceptions and the recovery of a muffed punt were just part of it. I don’t think I saw him miss a tackle either—at least not as badly as Huff and Eugene do every time they take the field.
Brown is better in coverage than Eugene and Mitchell, and is a better tackler than Eugene and Huff. That’s a fact.
I was supremely shocked to discover that Brown cleared waivers, and I’m happy to report that he was signed to the practice squad.
Like the aforementioned Tonga, I hope the coach’s see how good he really is and get him on the field in the regular season.
Final Thoughts
As I said in the article that preceded this one, I do not envy coach Cable on bit. That said, I think he could have done a little better job in this endeavor.
Was he under pressure from Al Davis to keep or cut certain players? Maybe. That is still not an excuse. He managed to get through to Davis before, why would now be any different?
I don’t want you to think I believe the season is lost, or that the Raiders aren’t better than they have been. I’m only saying they could be better than they are after the roster cuts.
There were some good decisions made, but there were some very bad ones made too.
I would have liked to see Stevie Brown, Manese Tonga, and Slade Norris make the active roster over Hiram Eugene, Rock Cartwright, and Ricky Brown. But one more time, my opinion doesn’t matter.
The practice squad now looks like this…
Stevie Brown-S, Kellen Heard-DT, Slade Norris-LB, Joe Porter-CB, Shaun Bodiford-WR, Alex Parsons-G/C, and Manese Tonga-FB.
It think these are all good players that will make an impact in the not so distant future. Hopefully, Brown and Tonga will get their shot sooner, rather than later.
This leaves a lot of young players out in the cold to look for work with another team. It is a tough way to make a living, but it is the life they’ve chosen.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Fat Kidd
Damn lol
September 6th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Now there is talk everywhere that the Raiders will rise from purgatory this season after an absurd NFL record of accumulating 11 losses or more for seven consecutive years.
If this is a Raiders renaissance, I wanted to see for myself. I wanted to compare and contrast the past with the present. I wanted to start with Al Davis, still the heartbeat of the Raiders, even though his 81-year-old body doesn’t work so well these days.
Among other physical issues, it takes forever for Davis to maneuver in and out of cars. Three decades ago during training camp, he was a gum-smacking, omnipresent figure in all white that patrolled the sidelines during practices and even pumped iron in the aftermath. Now he rarely attends any of the Raiders’ sessions.
The unofficial count is six Davis sightings at camp, and when he does stop by, he is wheeled around in a golf cart.
But his presence is felt like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
“You talk to him when you can get to him, and this is a person who does not live in the past,” said Nnamdi Asomugha, the Raiders’ extraordinary cornerback, referring to Davis, the team’s managing general partner since 1963. He invented all of those Raider things — the colors, the slogans (Commitment To Excellence; Pride And Poise; Just Win, Baby), the pirate logo, the legacy that produced 13 Pro Football Hall of Famers, AFC dominance, three Super Bowl victories and a fan base that is strikingly loud and loyal no matter the status of the team.
“Talent-wise, we’re as talented as any team in football, but it takes more than talent. It takes attention to details. It takes doing the little things, because the margin of victory is small in the league, and there has to be consistency.”
- Richard Seymour Added Asomugha, “(Davis) wants you to be good now. He wants to always to be winning. There is not a point where he says, ‘Well, it’s OK. We won last year. We won 20 years ago. We were great. It doesn’t matter about what’s happening right now.’
“No, he wants us to be great right now.”
September 6th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
JB Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Wiznewski will be long gone by the time our pick arrives, if we are lucky, Mike Pouncey will still be there. He can play BOTH center & guard. He should be our pick.
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We must trade up.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I assume this means that we will see Trevor Scott, Quentin Groves and Kamerion Wimbley getting time at defensive end with Thomas Howard, Ricky Brown, Travis Goethel, or Sam Williams taking their spot at linebacker.
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This is good news
September 6th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Gunheim and Daniels have not been signed to the practice squad and are still on the street.
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I thought Daniels made it? Guess not.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
If you look at it we are still very deep at DE:
Wimbley-LB/DE
Scott-LB/DE
Groves-LB/DE
Seymour-DT/DE
Kelly-DT/DE
Thats 5 extra DE’s that can be shifted and moved around until an injure player is healthy or until we IR them and find a replacement
September 6th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Gunheim and Daniels have not been signed to the practice squad and are still on the street.
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I thought Daniels made it? Guess not.
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Daniels got waived injure and is currently on the IR, much like we did Oren before we gave him an injury settlement and sent him on his way. Same goes for Richardson, I hoped he would make the final 53 though
September 6th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Our entire D line can play DT, or DE. Except Henderson.
3 of our OLB can play DE
I think we will have very good production from or DE’s as a posision group. V/S the Pass, and Run.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
The fact of the matter is that is that on this comment section as long as i am not violating anyone else, or making abusive post i can write about whatever i want.
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So can anyone, including Al’s critics. That’s what you don’t get.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
severeraiderz; sad but true.
Maybe he really is our FB of the futer?
09/05/2010 Placed DEs Alex Daniels and Jay Richardson and CB Joey Thomas on Injured Reserve
September 6th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Evenin MR
September 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
The fact of the matter is that is that on this comment section as long as i am not violating anyone else, or making abusive post i can write about whatever i want.
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So can anyone, including Al’s critics. That’s what you don’t get.
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Never said that you dont belong or are not welcome. You said that this blog had devolved into nothing more than a bunch of Al Davis apologist reaching for any ray of hope to give him praise (to paraphase you). Knowing that you are the anti-Al apologist wrote my statement saying that if this blog had become what you said, full of nothing but Al Davis fans, you wouldn’t be here because you are not a fan of Al Davis past or present.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Never said that you dont belong or are not welcome.
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It wouldn’t matter if you did! That’s my point!
September 6th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
severeraiderz; sad but true.
Maybe he really is our FB of the futer?
09/05/2010 Placed DEs Alex Daniels and Jay Richardson and CB Joey Thomas on Injured Reserve
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Hopefully he can learn the positin because he has good athleticism and a get after it mentality
September 6th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Never said that you dont belong or are not welcome.
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It wouldn’t matter if you did! That’s my point!
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Obviously it does because you felt compelled to tell me that it doesn’t lol
September 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
OK, let’s give it a test then, Severeraiderz. Say I’m not welcome here or don’t belong here, and watch what happens.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Shefter just picked the Raiders to go 9-7 on NFL Live.
hmmmm….
September 6th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Most experts have the Raiders around 5 wins.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
OK, let’s give it a test then, Severeraiderz. Say I’m not welcome here or don’t belong here, and watch what happens.
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Now you are asking for my approval for you to post here. Hmmmmmmm approval granted. You may continue to post here.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Good for them
September 6th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
severeraiderz may also continue to post here sir.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Most experts have the Raiders around 5 wins.
…………………..as a expert i have them 10-6
September 6th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
fat kidd Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
severeraiderz may also continue to post here sir.
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Coming from you, that means a lot. I guess i must have pissed RMR off so much that he left lol
September 6th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Severeraiderz, nobody in your life has ever asked you for approval for anything, except for maybe your kids. Even your wife wouldn’t ask you for approval of anything.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
As an expert I have them at 5-11.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Most experts have the Raiders around 5 wins.
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I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I’ve heard a lot things about this safety position. I have a couple questions and observations.
1. Can Al pay SB less for playing on the
Practice squad?
2. If the former is true, could al have been smart to risk SB clearing waivers?
3. Can al bring up SB later after he has time to develop?
If you look at these questions I think you’ll see it wasn’t that bad of a decision. Sorry for the poor typing
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Coming from you, that means a lot. I guess i must have pissed RMR off so much that he left lol
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This stupid game again? Somebody takes more than 30 seconds to respond to you, and already you’re claiming victory and that you ran them out of here? Desperate.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Note the original time of post #133
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
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And which experts advised Al Davis on the decisions that led to this 7 year collapse?
September 6th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Severeraiderz, nobody in your life has ever asked you for approval for anything, except for maybe your kids. Even your wife wouldn’t ask you for approval of anything.
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Grown people don’t need approvals, they do what they want because they are grown. When you grow up maybe you will get to do the things that you want. Until that day Al Davis controls everything that you do because you are infactuated with disliking him 24/7 and you are less important to him than the tennis balls he uses on his walker lol.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
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And which experts advised Al Davis on the decisions that led to this 7 year collapse?
what seven year collapse ?
September 6th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
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And which experts advised Al Davis on the decisions that led to this 7 year collapse?
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probably you. I’m glad that he fired your sorry a$$ lol
September 6th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
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And which experts advised Al Davis on the decisions that led to this 7 year collapse?
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probably you. I’m glad that he fired your sorry a$$ lol
September 6th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I spoke too soon RMR is still here.
Lol experts to RMR=voices in his head.
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And which experts advised Al Davis on the decisions that led to this 7 year collapse?
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probably you. I’m glad that he fired your sorry a$$ lol
September 6th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Al Davis does have a certain amount of control over what I think of him. For instance, if he makes smart football decisions, I think highly of him. But when he hires no GM and retains Tom Cable, I think he’s the same old senile loser. I guess everyone controls what people think in some regard. When you project a good image, people think good of you, and vice versa. When I see Al I see an 80 year old man who’s lost it, and who is destroying his football team. And, you bet, he’s in control of me thinking that. He can change my opinion of him by doing the right thing and retiring.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
3 times, wow how did that happen???
September 6th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
I’ve never worked for the Raiders, Severeraiderz. Are you now moving over to this thing where I must be some disgruntled ex employee? Well, here this. There are no disgruntled ex employees of the Raiders. They’re all glad to be gone.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
“hear this”, not here. You’re pretty desperate tonight so you’ll probably jump on anything.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Al Davis does have a certain amount of control over what I think of him. For instance, if he makes smart football decisions, I think highly of him. But when he hires no GM and retains Tom Cable, I think he’s the same old senile loser. I guess everyone controls what people think in some regard. When you project a good image, people think good of you, and vice versa. When I see Al I see an 80 year old man who’s lost it, and who is destroying his football team. And, you bet, he’s in control of me thinking that. He can change my opinion of him by doing the right thing and retiring.
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Someone being right is subjective. For instance, Republicans think that trickle down econmics is th “right” thing to do. I think that they are a delusional bunch of jack asses.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Al Davis does have a certain amount of control over what I think of him
………………………….now your learning al controls everything including your mind and wallet.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Al controls idiots who are dumb enough to believe him, and no one else. It’s a small crowd.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
“hear this”, not here. You’re pretty desperate tonight so you’ll probably jump on anything.
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Naw im just bored and nothing is on TV. I could give a rats a$$ about spelling. I actually enjoy your post because it gives this blog a nice balance at times. Then there are times that it is obvious that you are saying things to get a reaction out of people that you fell you are intelectually superior to, like that 5 win comment earlier.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Sure. Anyone who criticizes Al must be a troll looking for a reaction. Because after all, what’s there to criticize?
September 6th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
He says Davis’ own experience as a coach, which is unique to the owner’s experience, shapes his interpersonal skills, which can be rather, shall we say coarse. “I remember a time when he was speaking to one of the guys on the staff about some scheme,” he says. “Al tells him ‘I could explain this to you, but you’re too stupid to understand it.’”
His feelings for his players are different. “Al is in awe of some players,” says the coach. Like Charles Woodson. One year, when Woodson was in a contract year, he sidled up to Davis at practice one afternoon. “I’m a gangsta,” said Woodson. “I want your money.”
“You already have a lot of my money,” replied Davis.
“No, I want all your money,” said Woodson.
Davis laughed. It was just the kind of reply he enjoys.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
PITO
September 6th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Wow. Davis has a rapport with players. Players like him. Only if this could ever transcend into wins!
September 6th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
mucho pitos
September 6th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Sure. Anyone who criticizes Al must be a troll looking for a reaction. Because after all, what’s there to criticize?
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Lol there goes that fox news thing again with you taking what i said and twisting it to fit what you want it to say. You do that because you know im right and because you are trying to put me on the defensive. Pretty weak there RMR, you really suck at this blogging thing for someone that does it so much.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
No, Severeraiders, YOU really suck at this blogging thing. And Al Davis sucks at building football teams. He proves it year after year. Goodnight, kid.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
When we make desisions with our HEART, we commonly make them bad, ill timed, poorly done, ha!f @ssed ect.
So if I were king I would have found a way to draft theese PLAYERS:
1, #72 Chris Long
Position LDE
DOB 3/28/85
Height 6-3
Weight 276
College Virginia
NFL Exp. 3
2:
Ryan Clady #78 Tackle Denver Broncos Team Home
NewsTeam ReportBlogsScores & ScheduleStatsRosterDepth ChartTransactionsPhotosHeight: 6-6 Weight: 325
Born: Sep 6, 1986 – Long Beach, CA
College: Boise State
3:
Michael CrabTree
4: Michael OHER ++++++
5: Brian Cushings
6: Ndamukong Suh
7: Mike Iupati
8: Sam Bradford
9: Dez Bryant
10″ Pouncey
11 Eric Berry.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
severeraiderz you said you could make leave and i didnt believe you sorry for my doubts.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
No, Severeraiders, YOU really suck at this blogging thing. And Al Davis sucks at building football teams. He proves it year after year. Goodnight, kid
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Aight RMR goodnight its been real…real easy making you look like a fool on your home turf. I mean damn my man you spend more time here than Mcdonald and Becker combined.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
fat kidd Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
severeraiderz you said you could make leave and i didnt believe you sorry for my doubts.
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Lol i was waiting for you to jump in and finish him off. That was an interesting post about Al and C-wood. Must be cool to have a boss like Al
September 6th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
yeah if you keep on posting pro al davis stuff his ulcer acts up and he has too leave.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
When we make desisions with our HEART, we commonly make them bad, ill timed, poorly done, ha!f @ssed ect.
So if I were king I would have found a way to draft theese PLAYERS:
1, #72 Chris Long
Position LDE
DOB 3/28/85
Height 6-3
Weight 276
College Virginia
NFL Exp. 3
2:
Ryan Clady #78 Tackle Denver Broncos Team Home
NewsTeam ReportBlogsScores & ScheduleStatsRosterDepth ChartTransactionsPhotosHeight: 6-6 Weight: 325
Born: Sep 6, 1986 – Long Beach, CA
College: Boise State
3:
Michael CrabTree
4: Michael OHER ++++++
5: Brian Cushings
6: Ndamukong Suh
7: Mike Iupati
8: Sam Bradford
9: Dez Bryant
10″ Pouncey
11 Eric Berry
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Gotta disagree on Long. I said 3 years ago that he would be average at best and it is coming true. I would rather have Shaughnessy and Lamarr at cheaper price combined than Howies kid.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
his hate for al runs deep you might have hit on something there saying he was a ex-employee of als
September 6th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
fat kidd Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
yeah if you keep on posting pro al davis stuff his ulcer acts up and he has too leave.
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Imagine how huge the vein was in his forehead pulsating at the very thought that most people actually like Al Davis
September 6th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
3:
Michael CrabTree possible locker room cancer
4: Michael OHER ++++++
5: Brian Cushings
6: Ndamukong Suh
7: Mike Iupati
8: Sam Bradford
9: Dez Bryant possible locker room cancer
10″ Pouncey
11 Eric Berry
i wouldnt touch these two bad attitudes
September 7th, 2010 at 12:00 am
I would rather have Shaughnessy and Lamarr at cheaper price combined than Howies kid.
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Yep, thats why I said HEART. Emotions get in our way.
Still, moving up to get Stephen Wisienwski would be a SMART idea.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 am
fat kidd Says:
September 6th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
3:
Michael CrabTree possible locker room cancer
4: Michael OHER ++++++
5: Brian Cushings
6: Ndamukong Suh
7: Mike Iupati
8: Sam Bradford
9: Dez Bryant possible locker room cancer
10″ Pouncey
11 Eric Berry
i wouldnt touch these two bad attitudes
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Most strong headed WR make a big impact on the lockerroom.
Possible locker cancer @ possible All Pro Players.
We RAIDERS are not new to having a few tough guys, and ME ME guys.
AS LONG AS WE JUST WIN BABY!!!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Howie’s kid is definitely not Howie. Howie’s #2 son is another story. He’s going to MLB. Too bad as he’s a perfect OLT candidate. He’ a load &a half.
September 7th, 2010 at 3:01 am
Howie’s kid is for sure not his dad as far as his game goes. There were lots of ways to go in the recent draft. But I am beyond fired up about picking Rolando. He is undoubtedly the best decision made in seven years.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Can anyone tell me why we kept Eugene over Brown? Am I missing something about this guy? He is comparable to our ole’ boy Stu.
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He reminds me more of Dorsett.
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