Jackson helped get T.J. to Baltimore
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 7th, 2010 at 6:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It may have been inadvertant, but the glowing endorsement of quarterback Joe Flacco by Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson played into the decision of wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh to sign with the Ravens.
“I don’t know if you all know, but me and Hue Jackson have a real good relationship, and Hue used to brag about the guy all the time. Brag about how good of a quarterback he was and his demeanor and his personality, and that’s why I was a little late,” Houshmandzadeh told reporters in Baltimore according to the Baltimore Sun after meeting with Flacco. “We were in there talking a little bit. It always helps when you’ve got a guy that can put the ball where it needs to be.”
Jackson was Flacco’s quarterbacks coach with the Ravens.
The Sun reported Houshmandzadeh chose the Ravens over the Raiders.
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September 7th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
old kell is a loser,..king of the crybabies though.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Aw…is the fat old man still crying?….what is it today old kell?…what has ya snivlin today?…dont worry loser, catch the games on the radio…all good….however, hes still a billionaire with a private jet,..youre old, ugly, fat, unemployed, broke…hmm, no I cant see at all why youre insanely jealous of him…sucks to be you,..(obvious from the pic you posted of yourself here)
September 7th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Hmmm
September 7th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Old kell,..git your big fat butt to my tailgate,….for you, will make sloppy Joes and pork n beans…all good.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
L.A. is the second largest market old kell?..thanks,..we had no idea. lol…God, old people sure are stupid….however not all old slobs hang in message boards, get booted, then beg guys in their 20`s to be allowed to post again…pathetic.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Had to reread some of the emails old kell sent to Jerry,..(Jerry forwarded them to me)…unreal,..an old man, begging Becker to be allowed back in here…you aware they all laughed their butts off passin those around old kell?
September 7th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Old kell will be right back, hes a little busy, closing on a house…lmao.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Kell is an Old School RAIDER fan, so he can’t be too bad.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
KK you’re logic is specious at best, do you really call Mike Brown modern management? lol
September 7th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
DirtyRaccoon
I’ve slapped that fool Doofus Boob around so much…..lmao…too funny, he’s fixated on me. It’s Kool.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
No,..hes just old,..and needs to be in a mental institution.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Mike Brown???? what does he have to do with Davis and a new Stadium?
September 7th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Lol,..try again old man…youve never slapped anyone around in your life,..cept maybe that crankster dude you married.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Priestj
Mike Brown hasn’t sued the NFL nor his host City, or Los Angeles, ok?
September 7th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Enjoy the games on the radio this year you old slob…but if you come to a game, come by my tailgate,..brian will be there as well…i will make a special meal for you…big bowl of beans…youre fave.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Mike Brown just got a new stadium in Cincinnati, Arizona gave one to the BIDWILLS so don’t give me this Al Davis crap.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Raiders arent getting a new stadium, because they dont need one…btw, TJ,..talked to Gary today,..Giants talk…but did tell him that I passed along message that you are again allowed to call,..he wanted to make sure you are aware…cool.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Oh no, Mike Brown?…just another rich man old kell will be jealous of now…geez…hang in there you old fool.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
cool…
September 7th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Call tomorrow TJ,…make your prediction for sundays game,..I told Gary today, Tennessee wins it, by 17.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
brb,..just got my delivery of ready-rock. brb.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Los Angeles announces intentions to poach the Jaguars or Bills
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Los-Angeles-announces-intentions-to-poach-the-Ja?urn=nfl-212070
September 7th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Oakland needs an upgraded new stadium at the least.
The new stadiums being built are running laps around that joint.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Mike Brown just got a new stadium in Cincinnati, Arizona gave one to the BIDWILLS so don’t give me this Al Davis crap.
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Just goes to show you how inept Al Davis is.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
The stadium is fine,..we dont need a new one,…thats why we arent getting one…so there…thanks old kell for that link,..how did you learn to master your compter so well?…very impressive.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Inept?…hes a billionaire,..and you are on welfare,..but HE`s inept?…lol….youre an embarrassment old man.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
The positives for the stadium are that it is one of the most easily accesible stadiums due to BART and the fact it is right of the highways.
But the PA and replay system are beyond terrible. The fact that it has the infield in it is embaressing, and the fact it is half empty half the time is even more embarressing.
A new stadium almost always brings out the fans, which increases the home-field advantage, which increases the teams wins to losses.
Something needs to be done in the next 5 years.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Vegas,..all that needs to be done is the Raiders need less crybabies as fans,..the infield dirt embarrasses you/…why?…the PA system…wtf…you just took the crown from old man kell dude.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
JFB
The LA city council passes a resolution saying it would not deal with Al Davis
When the Raiders returned in 95′, he promptly sued the City of Oakland for 1 Billion dollars.
No municipality is going to deal with the Raiders as currently structured.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Thanks old kell,..coming from a janitor like yourself, your opinions really matter…they do matter, but only in mopping, floor waxing,…toilet scrubbing…thats your field dude,..keep with what you know,..cleaning supplies and crying and jealousy of Al Davis. Peace.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Just goes to show how full of crap you are.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
The PA system is terrible, I am pretty sure the Sacramento Rivercats system is better.
Being worst is never good. Step it up.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Just goes to show how full of crap you are.
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Why is it that you Davis apologists always respond to legitimate criticism with personal ad-hominen attacks
September 7th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I wish thewy would get rid of the PA system for good,..dont replace it,..dont need that dude telling me I just saw a great play, who caught it,..what down it is,…its lame…dont need any PA crap.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Why is it the losers jealous of Al Davis cry the most?
September 7th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
No need to be factually ignorant, in these days and times with the google machine.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/30/football-valuations-10_NFL-Team-Valuations_Rank.html
September 7th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
If the Raiders played in the type of stadium that the Cowboys had, they would have no trouble getting 60K+ to the games.
People would be coming from Eureka to Ensenada to see the joint.
Instead, they can’t even get 50K of people from the central valley to come out.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
The Jacksonville Jaguars’ value fell 16 percent in 2009, sending the team to the bottom of the list with a value of $725 million. The Oakland Raiders, valued at $758 million, and the Minnesota Vikings, at $774 million, were near the bottom.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Interesting. Not the fact that Hue Jackson USED to speak highly of Flacco to Houshmanzadeh, but that Jerry would somehow try to tie it in to TJ’s decision to sign with the Ravens, like it was a conversation they recently had and it had an impact on that decision.
Here’s a thought; TJ Houshmanzadeh is 34 years old and in the twilight of his career. Maybe, just MAYBE, he looked at the Ravens and thought that they represented his best chance of getting a ring before he retired. My guess is that he fished around a little with the Raiders and the Redskins to see if he could get a two-year deal and when that wasn’t forthcoming he signed with the best team he could.
“Indvertent”? How about “irrelevant”?
September 7th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Well because quite frankly scarlet very few of us give damn about your continued disdain for everything Mr Davis does. So you don’t like him we get it why do we have to put up with it day in day out. Move on or enjoy the team. No one is keeping you here against your will.
You hate him fine, now what else.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
758 million,..and he got it for free, with a gun to someones head,…sounds like a heck of a profit!!!…not to mention the 2-3 billion he has besides teams worth,..how much do you get from welfare old kell? lol
September 7th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Well because quite frankly scarlet very few of us give damn about your continued disdain for everything Mr Davis does.
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If that were true, you wouldn’t be calling me names every time I post.
Try taking me on factually for a change. Good practice.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I come here to talk football not economics of the sport. So you spend all day making your case very few will listen even less will care including me.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
You the man TJ,..thats why I got you back on KNBR.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
I come here to talk football
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Well all right!
Raiders 27
Titans 17
VY throws 2 picks, 1 returned for a TD!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
lol..old kell telling someone to stfu….as if anyone would take orders from the janitor. lmao
September 7th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
There is plenty of room right next 2 the Coli 4 a new stadium. I kont why they don’t consider all the land right there. The old Home Base lot.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
JC and Bush starting ???
Great news!
Get ready for Bush AND DMac in the backfield.
Bush will probably be a decoy most of the time for the first 2 or 3 weeks.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Tough talk KK just make sure you do it online.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Houston, Kelly, Seymour, and ShoNasty = too much beef for the Titans Oline.
Adam Shifty called the Titans Oline the best in the league, lol.
I guess we will see!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Raidertay Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
There is plenty of room right next 2 the Coli 4 a new stadium. I kont why they don’t consider all the land right there. The old Home Base lot.
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Airport, Bart, Freeways…….But they’re not going to deal with a guy (Al Davis) whose name is dirt around here, and they can’t trust him.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Final score sunday…here she comes…
Titans-38
Oakland-13
Im real, and stayin that way.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Lol…Al Davis doesnt want to be trusted. You old hog.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Titans-38
Oakland-13
Im real, and stayin that way.
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You’re nuts if you think this defense is giving up more than 17 pts to VY.
Has VY EVER scored over 30 pts?
September 7th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
38 pts ?????
LMFAO!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Earlier you said Tenn by 17, now they are up to 38 pts scored ????
You’re trippin!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Vince Young is awesome,..has been since peewee football,…what the crap have you been watching??????
September 7th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Tomorrow I may say they score 41….but it wont be close sunday…book that.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
r8eray Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
We want football (nfl) here in L.A.!
………….yea you and that other guy i forget his name!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I’m not sure how I see the game unfolding but I think we ma have a better offense ezpecially if Bush plays. I’ll take our front7 maybe the entire defense. I’m starting to think it’s going to take teams abut 4 games to understand that this is a much better team than people realize.
VY is a good QB and CJ is ridiculous so the difference will be t/o’s or negative plays. It’ll be interesting to watch.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Titans, Home Opener, Hot & Humid. Normally the Raiders would lay down.
If they don’t, that would be huge, imo.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
VY can’t pass for nuttin’ …
His running won’t be a problem.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
With all new players in key positions, we really don’t have any idea what type of team we have, but at least we will have better quarterback play without question.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
The Raiders will be 1-4 after week 5. Tom Cable will be fired. Come April this team will be pikn top 10. AGAIN
September 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
but it wont be close sunday…book that.
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Agreed!
Raiders 27
Titans 17
September 7th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
The Raiders will be 1-4 after week 5. Tom Cable will be fired. Come April this team will be pikn top 10. AGAIN
no we gave away our first round pick
September 7th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
The Raiders will be 1-4 after week 5. Tom Cable will be fired.
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LOL!
Look at all the glass half empty guys are showing up.
Tom Cable will be fired WAY before a 1-4 start.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
The fact is if pay didn’t matter because of a guarantee and I wanted 2 win a championship and I was choosing between Redskins, Raiders, and Ravens. I would have chose Bmore also.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
What a shock!! J Hill is here predicting BIIIIG things for the Raiders. Hmmmm…. Seems like I have heard this song before…………
September 7th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Different year…Same song and dance from clowns like Priest and JHill.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Al Davis said jason campbell is the next jim plunkett so we will go 10-6 because al is always right.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Raider 27
titans 13
September 7th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Raider 27
titans 13
do you really think the titans are going to score that much?
September 7th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Finally have a team that could move the ball on offense. we have a real passing game as opposed to the last few seasons… V at C creates a better passing pocket than satele…
September 7th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
the team has looked very stout in the red zone…
2 field goals and a td… 13…thats all they get…
September 7th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
the team has looked very stout in the red zone…
2 field goals and a td… 13…thats all they get…
………….your thinking we give them a pity td…..
September 7th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
hous would have been a good pickup however, I like what we have at WR… will ride with the youngsters as we have a lot of makers at WR….
September 7th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
fat kidd Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
the team has looked very stout in the red zone…
2 field goals and a td… 13…thats all they get…
………….your thinking we give them a pity td…..
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Chris Johnson…
September 7th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
well if one of our recievers gets injured there is still a trade deadline something like oct.20
September 7th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
we have 7 WR’s.. I am okay with any one of them filling in for a starter…
September 7th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Hey guys I want the raiders to win but I don’t get why every hates on Vince Young so much. He was like 7-1 for the Titans and looked pretty accurate everytime I saw him play. He threw a lot of deep bombs that were right on target and were simply dropped by Nate Washington. Not saying hes one of the greatest, but don’t underestimate him when he plays the Raiders.
I would still like to see us win by any scores you have posted though.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Oh, and lest we forget Thec07. He also would like to sing the song for you all.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
No way the Raiders win this game. No way in hell.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
dude, how you doing tonite man???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Haha wow my two favorite doom and gloom clowns Dudette and Gal are in here……..VY is not a qb and explain how no way in hell we win in Tennessee?
September 7th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
why make fun of a man whos got a job sweeping or a banker the man is working not sealing drugs ect n who wants to tailgate with people withwith a fan who knows raider football but kol u need to lay off al the man has did more 4 the nfl then anyone.a pills n weed hell rather have a beer with fans about the game n kool leave al alone the man is the raiders did more then any owner alive heck name another owner u can name thats the face of the team n did as much.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
My prediction:
Two JC turnovers have the team down 13-0 right before the half, but a reaggravation of the wrist injury causes him to depart.
Bruce leads a FG at the end of the half, to edge it to 13-3, than gives an amazing motivational speech at halftime.
We outscore the Titans 21-7 in the second half to edge them 24-20.
(Ok so the captain is setting in a little, but that’s the way I see it)
September 7th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Nevermind Dudette….still upset that pro bowl cailber RB justin farglass is no longer in Oakland
September 7th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
No VR……thats what you want to happen
September 7th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
I want a white JFORD xxl, dude you want to put a wager on the game???? Loser buys the other an NFL Authentic jersey…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
I see Troy Smith was picked up by the 9ers…So much for the UFL…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Thec…..you need a black JLH jersey
September 7th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
4 real-
Tennesee is a better team. Period. They are better than the Raiders in all phases of the game. Thats why.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Thec…..you need a black JLH jersey
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NAW Bause hogg I riding with the youngster…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
bauce change the 4 real to on the chin
September 7th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
I keep reading in here that Vince Young can’t throw the ball, but I’ve seen him play a couple of times in the preseason and he looked pretty good to me.
I agree with Guy. I think it would be a mistake to think he can’t hurt us that way. We’re going to have to score some points on Sunday, because as improved as the defense appears to be I don’t think they’re going to be able to keep Tennessee in the teens.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Dont want a jersey. People who where jerseys are fags. I will bet you a bottle of ANYTHING you want the Titans win.
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I dont drink but I will take you up on that, what do you say a bottle of DOM P???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
bottle of DOM P, vintage 2000
September 7th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Dudette really? Yeah weeks 1 and 2 the OilTans DID SHOW they were better hence their 2-0 record…..wait wait…..everyone is 0-0 right?
September 7th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Bauce I’m Gal? I dont really post much and when I do its almost always positive stuff. I’m just saying Vince Young is more dangerous than most of the people are giving him credit for. Sorry if you were talking to someone else btw.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
the new Physical DHB against the titans secondary, i like very much…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Thec,
No champagne for me. Whiskey.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
still wish we sighn hartwig n cut satille
September 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Thec,
I thought you were being serious. After reading your post about DHB, I laughed, then I knew you were jokn. LOL! Well done.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Bauce,
Do you where a jersey??
September 7th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
dude take the champagn sell it 4 5 bottles of jack
September 7th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Say Raiders win in Tennessee….Dudette wont show up for awhile and when he does….he will say it was LUCK
September 7th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
bauce sorry u r a fan wasnt paying attention hey do u live oakland.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Not a Jack fan. Found a new one as of late, not real expensive but smooth as ice. Called Pendelton
September 7th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
man if we win sunday we may be in 4 a season like 1980 good times by 65 a grads from poca nickname the dots 4 sbs 3 wins n what 7 afc champ games now 43 n still waiting did go see sb 11 thanx to my uncle
September 7th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Not a Jack fan. Found a new one as of late, not real expensive but smooth as ice. Called Pendelton
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I dont drink, i was saying what i want…..
Bottle of Dom vintage 150.00 usd
Bottle of Pendelton 20 snacks???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Thec,
I thought you were being serious. After reading your post about DHB, I laughed, then I knew you were jokn. LOL! Well done.
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Dead serious, I liked what i saw in DHB this preseason, look forward to him becoming the maker he sohuld have been all along…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
season hasnt started and yet in all phases of football OilTans are better hahahahahahahahaha Dudette and the womanly posts are classic
September 7th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Farglass good hahahahahahahaha….Dudette that was a good one
September 7th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
DHB made like one play in the preseason. He wont have 25 catches this year.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Just ordered a white McClain jersey. Replica, nothing big.
Was going to get the AFL white #5, with just Bruce on the back, but decided against it for now.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
dude glad to hear u r ok heard u got hit from behind by a 65 model then found out it was kool
September 7th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
So all on the blog witness Dude and myself have a bet of a bottle of DOM for me, or a beverage of his choice with a value of 150.00 usd….
September 7th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
[...] coach with the Ravens. The Sun reported Houshmandzadeh chose the Ravens over the Raiders. Jackson helped get T.J. to Baltimore – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the h… Wish Hue mentioned Jason Campbell haha!? Or tried to hype up the opportunity to become a number 1 [...]
September 7th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Dudette….so i bet anyone would want and love Kenny Shedd huh? Farglass a good back hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
September 7th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
jeff bridges is the only real dude.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
DHB made like one play in the preseason. He wont have 25 catches this year.
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Like I said i dont drink, but will collect DOM bottles from you all day… Want to put anotehr bottle on that???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Duette if healthy dhb gets over 25 catches…..wwhy dont we make a bet…..loser never comes on blog again
September 7th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
September 7th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
jeff bridges is the only real dude.
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LOL
I am the dude, you are the Lebowski man!!
September 7th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
alssoul…. Big lebowski lol
September 7th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Not as sure about the DHB call as I am about Sunday. So no. He wont be a major factor this year. That much I know.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Yeah Thec….he will bet with you but scared with me
September 7th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Thec,
If you want to set the over/under on DHB then I will bet.
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I like the over on the number you posted…
September 7th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Vegas, Do you know the odds on the Raiders titans game???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
why is hartwig not her yet cut satllie
September 7th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
6n 1/2 dogs
September 7th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Damn A’s scored 2 runs after being down 6 zip…..need this game cuz Tex lost again! Would be six back then!
September 7th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
ALSSOUL Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
why is hartwig not her yet cut satllie
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Interesting post. What was Hartwigs problem in sh1tsburg outside of him being beaten by the rook???
September 7th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Anyway gotta run out and grab some italian…
RAIDER NATION….
September 7th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
saying heat but foecast say 77 n chane of thunder storms
September 7th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
VR….i know you will take that
September 7th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Anyways the BAUCE has gotta bounce….see ya…..JUST WIN
September 7th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
dont agree with 7 wrs hell kept 5 before yet no hooz no clayton ect but gb kept 3 fbs n only 1 healthy tb.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Breein & Doofus, if you like 6 grade humor.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Jamarcus has a better grasp on the English language, than some in here.
It’s almost Yoda-esque. “In wrong places words are.”
September 7th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Are the Trolls gone?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Leggo
September 7th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Are the titans trying to get haynesworth cuz they’re worried about veldheer?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
LOL…maybe in a dream
September 7th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I don’t think the Titans are THAT afraid of Veldheer.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Titans 6 point favorites.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Eventhough to be honest, he looked pretty scrappy. At least he’s big enough.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Yeah… No ones overlooking the titans. How did you feel the defense handled the stretch play. I’m not impressed.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
We will have to wait and see, as the opposing coaches begin to attack weaknesses.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
But the offense has been clearly better. The Defense is still giving up the big runs.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
If I could have one wish this season it would be to have a top 7 rushing defense.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
If I could have one wish this season it would be to have a top 7 rushing defense.
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If your gonna have a wish granted, aim a little higher. Like #1 D against the Run, and #1 overall Defense. We may not need any help to have a Top 10 D.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Raiders have a top ten rushing defense, they are the AFC West Champions!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
#1 D ain’t happening. I’m being realistic.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
One thing we will know tomorrow, is what the hell is up with the rookie back-up linebacker, Mr. Goethel, that is so important that it has to be kept top secret?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
With two rookies as starters an considering our safeties #1 D has coach’s chance in Al’s system.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Raiders usually play good week one. They won’t get blown out. But eventually Al’s philosophy of “just lose baby” will permeate the Raiders’ sideline and they’ll find a way to choke.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Dude Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
No way the Raiders win this game. No way in hell.
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What are you doing here Dude? Shouldn’t you be on a Tennessee board? You can probaly get in on some good Titan talk in between Nascar and Country music conversation.
Nice to hear from all these so called “fans”.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:05 am
A fan can’t be realistic? We have the worst owner in the game. No GM. A head coach who would be fetching donuts somewhere if he wasn’t here. Why can’t a fan just look at this situation and say we’re screwed until it’s addressed?
September 8th, 2010 at 12:22 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
#1 D ain’t happening. I’m being realistic.
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Really 8, REALY, did you just sat you were being “realistic”? Really, realistic? You just said “If I could have one WISH this season it would be to have a top 7 rushing defense.” Isn’t a wish realy just a fantasy, no matter atainability, or legitimacy? That in it’s self is UNrealistic!
It’s like badly breaking your Legs, and saying “man I wish I felt better”. NO, you say MAN, I wish my legs wernt broken!
Maybe you should have just stuck to a simple “Gee Hey there guy’s, um I am hopping that the Oakland RAIDERS defensive run blocking unit is in the top 7 overall standings in the NFL.
Of course, if you had said that, Norco, MR, KK, 408, Priest, Oakglenn, heck even the Bauce would have ran yer a$$ out so quick ya’d think you were out of you mom’s basement.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Talk about a test right off the bat…Titans got Possibly the best offensive line in the league, and CJ is the top RB, arguably….If our D can control the ground game, That should give us great confidence/momentum that would carry over through the season. Get our Swaggar back. We shall see.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Jerry!
Come ON Jerry!
Jackson helped TJ get to Baltimore?!
You must really need something to write.
Edward Teach: Post #39 has it about right.
It’s TJ’s age and wanting to play with a team that was at the same rebuilding stage as the Raiders.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Raiders’ run defense will face two tests right off the bat, Titan’s Johnson & Rams’ Jackson.
Should the Raiders try to get in on the Haynesworth sweepstakes. Washington has put him on the block, they want two picks (I figure probably two od 2nd, 3rd, &/or 4th round). They have already paid him the $21 million dollar guarnateed money up front, this past April of 2010, so $$$ wise its proven all-pro who we will get for 3rd round dollars.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:59 am
Raiders do not need TJ.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Raiders should trade Mr. Howard, Mr. Eugene, & a 3rd for Haynesworth, activate Mr. Stevie Brown.
Better yet….
September 8th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Raiders should trade for Jonathon Stewart & Steve Smith of the Panthers.
Carolina will need to trade one of them at least, should they be 0-3, and have not scored any offensive TDs.
just a thought…
September 8th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Racoon, what the hell’s wrong with you tonight? Calm down. The guy’s just giving his opinion.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:52 am
Raiders sign former NY Giant defensive tackle Jay Alford who got released 3 days ago in a deep positional battle. He’s a long snapper as well.
From ESPN NewYork:
Alford was one of the Giants’ more promising defensive players before tearing his ACL last preseason. He missed all of last season and was making his way back this preseason. But Alford, who had a monster sack on Tom Brady late in the Giants’ win over the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII, was a casualty of numbers.
The Giants are stacked at defensive tackle with Chris Canty, Barry Cofield, second-round pick Linval Joseph and Rocky Bernard. Bernard has come on strong the last two weeks of camp.
September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 am
M.Waulfe must know him well it would make sense to cut Condo for him as we are pretty thin on the DL
September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 am
# RaiderRetribution Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Raiders should trade for Jonathon Stewart & Steve Smith of the Panthers.
Carolina will need to trade one of them at least, should they be 0-3, and have not scored any offensive TDs.
just a thought…
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hmm, so let me get this right, you want 2 players that you dont think will score a TD in 3 games, and you want them to join the raiders?
well why the he11 not, we suck, mught as well gather more people that suck..
September 8th, 2010 at 3:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anZPbw8Kqxc
September 8th, 2010 at 4:03 am
Jay Alford joins the Raiders
Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2010 4:08 AM ET
The post-September 4 roster churning continues.
A league source tells us that defensive tackle Jay Alford, a third-round pick of the Giants in 2007, has agreed to terms with the Raiders.
Alford missed all of 2009 with a knee injury suffered in the preseason. He appeared in every game of his first two seasons, with three starts in 2008.
Alford played in each of the Giants’ four preseason games in 2010.
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woohoo!
September 8th, 2010 at 4:11 am
out man out now that we’ve added a guy to the roster:
pick one!
Desmond Bryant, Ricky Brown, Thomas Howard, Sam Williams, Yamon Figurs or Nick Miller …
I’ll be pissed if it’s John Henderson
September 8th, 2010 at 5:17 am
Don’t know much about Alford, but I see he’s listed at 304 pounds. To me, that says 3-technique. I wonder if Desmond Bryant’s injury is worse than first appeared. It would make sense to sign a competent backup. I just really hope this has nothing to do with Seymour’s triceps trouble.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:23 am
Yamon should get the ax, IMO.
If they release Sam Williams, I would bet they would still be hoping to get a 6th or 7th rounder for Howard, and after they did, they would bring back Sam.
Don’t think they will release another D-line guy.
Alford was pretty good those few years, but coming off an ACL injury, wouldn’t want to assume he is any better than any of our current D-liners just yet.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:26 am
Who knows, maybe something strange will happen.
Release Trevor Scott or John Henderson, trade JLH.
Just cutting Yamon seems to logical.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:33 am
too logical I should say……..
Coffee!!!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 5:34 am
It won’t be a D-lineman because Alford isn’t 100% healthy.
Don’t they have to drop a player before adding one? Maybe they traded a palyer for a draft pick.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:35 am
WAKE UP JERRY!!!!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 5:41 am
Nothing on the Raiders transaction page
September 8th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Carl…
when you add a Free Agent player you dont have to give something in return, such as a draft pick…
furthermore, you cant give up a draft pick to get a 54 man roster…
that means Alford is ours and we have to get rid of a player to ad him to our roster…
September 8th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Carl…
I just realized what you meant… if we traded a player I think it might be Thomas Howard, Titans is keen on him..
September 8th, 2010 at 5:45 am
I meant that maybe they traded a player off of the current roster to be able to add Alford.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:47 am
I can’t see them trading him to the titans 5 days before playing against them.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:47 am
Carl…
I just realized what you meant… if we traded a player I think it might be Thomas Howard, Titans is keen on him..
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There’s no way they trade anybody to the Titans until after the game. Would not shock me a bit to see Howard go then, though.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Interesting the Raiders signed this guy this week.
There is something about how if a player is on the roster week 1, his salary is mostly guaranteed for the year, but after week 1 it is not for the whole year.
Must have plans for him to stick around, or they didn’t think he would be around in a week.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Maybe someone should ask Andy Slater.
Who has a twitter account? Lets get the semi-pro’s up and running here!!
September 8th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Found this scouting report on Alford:
Assets: An athletic tackle with superb versatility. Specializes in collapsing the pocket, using a quick first step and a lot of energy to break through the line and get after the quarterback.
Flaws: A one-dimensional defender as he focuses strictly at disrupting up the middle. Doesn’t pick up the run well. Needs to improve his overall technique.
That sounds a lot like Desmond Bryant to me. I still don’t wonder if he’s more injured than they’ve been letting on.
September 8th, 2010 at 5:56 am
could the trade not have a clause that the Titans was not to use him in week one?
September 8th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Alford is just as injured if not more than Bryant..
September 8th, 2010 at 6:11 am
I’m not impressed with Desmond Bryant or his gimpy elbow. not as a DT anyways
We have no depth at DE after letting Richardson, Cooper & Gunheim all walk …
Trevor Scott gets abused against the run as a DE so we have no depth for base end if Shaughnessy or Houston get hurt or need a breather. Move Bryant to DE
one of these guys should get walking papers today:
Ricky Brown, Thomas Howard, Sam Williams, Yamon Figurs or Nick Miller …
Nick Miller is the only guy on this list eligible for the practice squad (just a thought)
September 8th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Good Morning Naton! Jay Alford, huh? Who’s really hurt this time???
September 8th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Alford was part of that Giants Super Bowl D-line, where they didn’t have a NT, and everyone was just a 290 pound disrupting force.
That’s Wauffle’s MO.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Jay Alford, huh? Who’s really hurt this time???
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Seymour, Henderson & Bryant have all been “fatigued” at some point in camp
September 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Good Morning Carl, Rockstar, JFB, and wow!!! Good to see you in here LMN!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Jay Alford? I don’t think we needed this guy with Seymour, Bryant as the two 3-techs.
I hope that they aren’t looking for more “athletic” lineman again. You need a big guy to clog the middle.
If they release John Henderson, then you will know the Raiders haven’t learned a damn thing about defense over the last 7 years.
Rushing the passer isn’t EVERYTHING…you can’t stop the run….you can’t win
September 8th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Is it not enough that they already have 3 – 3-techs on the roster in Seynour, Kelly and Bryant.
Guess they want that athletic look….so you can get pushed up and down the field.
Keep Henderson and keep developing that Heard kid.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:17 am
nose tackle isn’t just based upon FAT
it’s all about strength and technique. leverage
compare Terdell Sands & Jay Ratliff
just because you guys haven’t heard of Fred Robbins & Jay Alford, doesn’t mean the Giants didn’t have a nose tackle on their 4 man line with Mike Waufle as DL Coach
Tuck & Cofield were the 3 techs
gosh – Jhill and I went over this 3 months ago, didn’t we?
September 8th, 2010 at 6:19 am
If they release John Henderson, then you will know the Raiders haven’t learned a damn thing about defense over the last 7 years.
Rushing the passer isn’t EVERYTHING…you can’t stop the run….you can’t win
Keep Henderson and keep developing that Heard kid.
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Agreed. S&B in early this AM!
September 8th, 2010 at 6:20 am
anybody feel sorry for William Joseph?
got replaced by Jay Alford in New York.
got replaced by Jay Alford in Oakland.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Nope, never feel bad for a guy who gets a second chance and makes the same mistakes.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Rockstar,
Good point on the fact that a nose tackle doesn’t have to be “Fat”….
I guess with the importance of height/weight/speed in the calculations here…sometimes I just look for a player that doesn’t fit the classic Raider mold for a sign of the decision making.
You know if Davis really had his way there would be 2 defensive end types in the tackle positions and two converted linebackers on the ends…..with hybrid safety guys manning all 3 linebacker positions.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:24 am
where they didn’t have a NT, and everyone was just a 290 pound disrupting force.
That’s Wauffle’s MO.
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complete bs – agree that Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka & Justin Tuck applied much pressure on opposing QB’s, but to say they didn’t have a nose tackle is false doctrine
NT is not a glamourous job. they occupy multiple blockers while the DE’s & OLB’s attack (sometimes even the 3 tech)
September 8th, 2010 at 6:26 am
You know if Davis really had his way there would be 2 defensive end types in the tackle positions and two converted linebackers on the ends…..with hybrid safety guys manning all 3 linebacker positions.
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LOL!
so true and every cornerback on the roster would run a sub 4.3 forty
September 8th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Who would feel sorry for Joseph? The guy was a 1st round bust like 10 years ago and keeps getting paychecks…
September 8th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Raiders LB Thomas Howard donated 31 pairs of football cleats to the San Francisco Brown Bombers Pee Wee squad.
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maybe after we cut Thomas Howard he can COACH the San Francisco Brown Bombers Pee Wee squad…
September 8th, 2010 at 6:34 am
nothing from Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate) on DT Jay Alford yet either …
September 8th, 2010 at 6:38 am
complete bs – agree that Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka & Justin Tuck applied much pressure on opposing QB’s, but to say they didn’t have a nose tackle is false doctrine
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They didn’t have one guy who was a Vince Wilfork, Sam Adams type of blocker-absorber.
Sure on different plays, some guys in the middle would take on the two blockers per say, but it was a constant rotation of guys, that just beat their man and penetrated upfield and made plays.
At times they wouldn’t have a guy over 300 pounds on the whole line, and they stopped the run good enough to win a Super Bowl.
That’s the approach here. You really think TK is going to go into things looking to just absorb blockers? Didn’t you watch his interview in the 49ers game, he said 0-tech or 3-tech, it’s all the same to him?
September 8th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Good Ol’ Vito Tafur…LOL
So, what is this guy Alford here for? I mean…is Dez hurt really bad? Is it an insurance for Seymour (God I hope not!)? I mean…something happened since last Thursday!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 6:43 am
# hwnrdr Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Good Morning Carl, Rockstar, JFB, and wow!!! Good to see you in here LMN!!!
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Thanks bro’
September 8th, 2010 at 6:47 am
NP LMN…ready for the season to start? I can’t wait til Sunday…
September 8th, 2010 at 6:47 am
JFB,
If the Raiders didn’t rank last or near last every stinking year against the run….I’d be more open to these other methods.
The only consistency in Oakland is D-Lineman getting single blocked, O-Lineman mauling linebackers…and the high safety getting juked or just plain run over.
Week after week after week after week.
That’s why Marshall talked Davis into getting Houston on the line and having Shaughnessy start opposite….keeping Big John Henderson and developing this Heard kid.
Raiders aren’t very good with unconventional of late…which has me concerned about Veldheer….so why not try the blocker absorber in the middle.
Everyone can’t rush the passer on every down.
Gore and that Bears running back scorched the Raiders.
And yet the Michael Huff gets all the blame.
That’s why this team has been ATROCIOUS at stopping the run
September 8th, 2010 at 6:57 am
You really think TK is going to go into things looking to just absorb blockers? Didn’t you watch his interview in the 49ers game, he said 0-tech or 3-tech, it’s all the same to him?
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if Kelly is a nose tackle, he needs to eat up blockers and allow other guys to make a play. He needs to fill gaps on the interior D-Line so we don’t have RB’s running untouched up the gut for 5 yards before McClain or Huff miss & get blamed on a 89 yard TD
TK said it himself in a different interview. It’s all on the D-Line to force Chris Johnson outside so the LB’s & DE’s can clobber him. In that same interview you referred to I think he said “i’m strong enough”
Cable called Kelly a nose tackle. thats what he is. the Raiders have one under Waufle, just like the Giants did under Waufle
could the Raiders have a 4 man line of Shaughnessy-Houston-Scott-Groves on occasion? sure. probably in obvious passing situations, but for the most part expect Kelly, Henderson or Alford to be on the field at all times … especially since we ranked 29th against the run last year!
September 8th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Breaking down the D-line:
Seymour still has gas in the tank and should be solid against the run and pass.
Kelly is probably in the best shape og his life and it’s also been 2+ years since his knee surgery. Should have his best season.
Shaugnessy showed a lot of promise last year and will only benefit from Seymour and Kelly in the middle.
Houston is a big DE rookie that looked good so far but is an unknown.
Scott is a very good pass rusher, period.
Bryant takes a beating around here but I feel he is good vs. the pass and run and provides nice depth at DT.
Henderson has a rep comparable to Sam Adams or Jerry Ball or Grady Jackson. And he’s only 31. On average a DT with his success should have 2 or 3 more good years.
Wimbley and Groves can also play end.
Alford is just depth at what should be a strong point for this team.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:01 am
TK lost 35 pounds, and when asked about the switch to 0-zech from the 3, he said the blocking is pretty much the same and it doesn’t really matter.
Of course each situation is different, and at times he will be asked to do this. Henderson will be in the game on obvious run downs, and probably with an extra blocker on the line or a TE, so his role will be completely different.
But first and 10, TK is going to be looking to penetrate and make a play in the backfield, 99% of the time, no matter where he lines up.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:04 am
They didn’t have one guy who was a Vince Wilfork, Sam Adams type of blocker-absorber.
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Fred Robbins was the NT in New York. thats a fact
as stated before: not a Pro Bowler like you’ve brought up, but good enough to get the job done
just because you haven’t heard of a guy doesn’t mean he isn’t doing his job
September 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
TK is going to be looking to penetrate and make a play in the backfield, 99% of the time, no matter where he lines up.
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so basically – even though Cable is calling Kelly a nose tackle, he’s going to serve as another 3 tech next to Seymour?
2 UT’s next to eachother = McClain is a bust = awful run defense
September 8th, 2010 at 7:09 am
new post!
September 8th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Violent Hands Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 am
M.Waulfe must know him well it would make sense to cut Condo for him as we are pretty thin on the DL
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Word. Been sayin for a while that Condo was not worth his slot on the 53.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:34 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 12:22 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
#1 D ain’t happening. I’m being realistic.
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Really 8, REALY, did you just sat you were being “realistic”? Really, realistic? You just said “If I could have one WISH this season it would be to have a top 7 rushing defense.” Isn’t a wish realy just a fantasy, no matter atainability, or legitimacy? That in it’s self is UNrealistic!
It’s like badly breaking your Legs, and saying “man I wish I felt better”. NO, you say MAN, I wish my legs wernt broken!
Maybe you should have just stuck to a simple “Gee Hey there guy’s, um I am hopping that the Oakland RAIDERS defensive run blocking unit is in the top 7 overall standings in the NFL.
Of course, if you had said that, Norco, MR, KK, 408, Priest, Oakglenn, heck even the Bauce would have ran yer a$$ out so quick ya’d think you were out of you mom’s basement.
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Word. So wanting the team to have atop 10 run defense is bad? Great. Why don’t you look at the last 4 of your texts. Crap.
September 8th, 2010 at 11:03 am
T Scott is where he needs to be. He was lost at WLB couldn’t cover, lost contain. The best he looked in pre season was when he was was in the three position.
Rumor is that Goethel is out for 5 -7 more weeks
We gave up 3 or 4 big running plays in the preseason (all with RoMac in he game) because the ILB over ran the play. I am not ready to give up on him, but it’s time for him to play as smart as everybody claims he is.