Raiders’ home TV market could get shut out
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 7th, 2010 at 8:52 am in Oakland Raiders.
Preseason stats aren’t worth a whole lot, unless you think Michael Bennett (54 carries, 236 yards) is going to lead the Raiders in rushing or Bruce Gradkowski will finish with an NFL record 125.9 quarterback rating.
One figure was an eye opener.
The attendance for the Seattle game in Week 4 was listed as 23,957. It wasn’t in the stat books distributed following the game, but showed up in the final preseason stats.
There weren’t that many people in the park, but that’s hardly the point. The Raiders announce “tickets issued,” which means tickets that were actually bought and paid for. They don’t count butts in the seats.
So the 23,957 is roughly the Raiders’ season ticket base.
Ouch.
Preseason games are included in a season ticket package. You want the eight regular season games, then you pony up for the preseason games as well. At full price. It’s a great scam, but we’ll drop that topic for the time being.
Since few people in their right mind would buy a full-price ticket to a preseason game on its own merit, the attendance total for August games closely mirrors that of the season-ticket base.
I double-checked the attendance figure for the Seahawks game and was told it was correct. There were no typos or inverted numbers.
And it’s worth noting the Raiders have partial-season ticket plans available which don’t include the preseason, but I’m told that the sale of those will have a hard time preventing potential blackouts.
After seven consecutive seasons of 11 or more losses, an on-going NFL record, you can’t fault fans for taking a “show me” approach to purchasing tickets.
But the figure is alarming after what was widely considered the most positive offseason in the last decade. There was a change in quarterbacks, a draft which received mostly rave reviews and little or no drama of the kind that seems to follow the Raiders around in terms of bad publicity.
With a season opener on Sept. 19 against the thoroughly unappealing Rams and not in prime time, you can probably count on Week 1 failing to sell out in advance of the 72-hour deadline for local television.
The last three home openers have been televised, but all have been on Monday night against AFC West opponents. Last year’s opener against San Diego was televised and followed by seven consecutive blackouts. The last time the Raiders opened on Sunday at home against an NFC team, they were blacked out in Lane Kiffin’s debut against the Detroit Lions.
Oakland has been televised only 44 times in 120 regular-season home games since returning to Oakland in 1995, and there’s a chance they’ll be 44-for-128 when the season ends.
Even if the Raiders offseason success translates in the won-loss column the low season ticket base will make it difficult to make up the difference. It would be hard to envision more excitement in the Coliseum than the regular-season finale of 2000, with the Raiders playing for home field advantage in the playoffs under Jon Gruden. They beat the Carolina Panthers 52-9 on Christmas Eve and were blacked out locally.
Earlier that season, the Raiders returned home with a 10-2 record to face the Atlanta Falcons, won 41-14, and were blacked out locally.
The economy was much better in 2000 than it is in 2010.
A couple of points should be made:
– The Raiders case may be extreme, but they’re hardly alone, as reported by USA Today.
Even teams that made the playoffs such as Arizona, Cincinnati and San Diego are bracing for blackouts.
– Tickets and parking are expensive, and with the advent of HD television and DirecTV, watching games at home has never been a better option. If you’re talking sinking your money into nose bleed seats or getting a front row seat in your own living room, then tailgating with friends in the comfort of your own home is appealing.
– Without getting too deep into the socioeconomic aspect, walk through the parking lot at any Raiders game and you’ll find what is probably the most diverse fan base in the NFL. You see it in the faces of the fans as well as the delicious foods on the barbecues. It’s probably the best smelling parking lot in the NFL. Unemployment and a bad economy hits fans of color the hardest.
Privately, the Raiders realize that even with a return to .500 and beyond, they’ll probably do no better than one or two games on television, and the real possibility exists for a shutout.
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September 7th, 2010 at 8:54 am
1st!
September 7th, 2010 at 8:56 am
A guy with Brandon Jacobs’ size would fit in well here. If only because he’s going to get very little help from the offensive line, so he’s going to have to break his own tackles.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
who cares. that’s what the NFL RedZone is for.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I’m going to one game, in AZ!!!
Sorry Al
September 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
“Oakland has been televised only 44 times in 120 regular-season home games since returning to Oakland in 1995, and there’s a chance they’ll be 44-for-128 when the season ends.”
Time to dump Oakland once again and get back to LA. They may still not sell out games, but at least in LA you can attract decent free agents by using the glamour of the city…what is the selling point of Oakland? That players can live in San Francisco?
September 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
unless you think Bruce Gradkowski will finish with an NFL record 125.9 quarterback rating.
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affirmitative
September 7th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Al, you should have listened to Rockstar and drafted John Connor in round 5 instead of that CB…which player contributes more to a football team, a starting FB or the last CB on the roster that doesn’t even return kicks?
I almost can’t watch Hardknocks because every time they show a highlight of “The Terminator” knocking the schyt out of people I get pissed off that he is not a Raider.
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Dakota: I would have taken John Connor over Bruce Campbell & Jacoby Ford, not just Walter McFadden!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Yo
September 7th, 2010 at 9:04 am
if we wanted a project OL it could have been Wang, Petrus, Newhouse, Hudson or DeGeare!
return guys are dime a dozen
could have just re-signed Justin Miller in free agency … we had until May 3rd, when he signed with the Cards
September 7th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Didn’t realize Bruce Campbell got flagged for 3 holding penalties in a ten minute span, and on back-to-back plays.
So much for taking that starting job anytime soon.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Blackout? Really, who cares?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:06 am
affirmitative? LMAO.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Unemployment and a bad economy hits fans of color the hardest.
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Fans of color??
Is that the proper nomenclature Mr. McDonald?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Dakota,
Why do you love LA so much?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Can you just give away the tickets, and have that work for the blackout rule?
Isn’t the hopes of putting a fanny in the seat, and hoping they buy 2 beers and a hot dog better than an empty seat?
Never understood this, and it isn’t just Al dealing with the blackout issue.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Sorry but from what I have seen, I would have taken John Conner over Veldheer too.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:11 am
play Bruce Campbell at Fullback.
get him used to blocking inside!
Marcel Reece blocking for McFadden & Bennett is weak
September 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I prefer the single-back set.
You won’t see a FB in front of CJ too much this weekend, and that seems to work out pretty well for him.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Can you just give away the tickets, and have that work for the blackout rule?
Isn’t the hopes of putting a fanny in the seat, and hoping they buy 2 beers and a hot dog better than an empty seat?
Never understood this, and it isn’t just Al dealing with the blackout issue.
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I think the tickets have to actually be sold….the team can buy up all the unsold tickets, but I don’t think you can just give them away. Revenue sharing and all that stuff…the road team gets a portion of the gate.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Sorry but from what I have seen, I would have taken John Conner over Veldheer too
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BCZ: once upon a time, we drafted Jon Ritchie in RD3 (63rd overall)
Conner at #69 wouldn’t have hurt my feelings!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Jerry,
Fans of color?!
I like Color!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Unemployment and a bad economy hits fans of color the hardest?
DUDE!
There’s probably statistics or something to back that up I suppose. Sounds bad tho.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Is John Conner good at recovering fumbles?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:17 am
I prefer the single-back set.
You won’t see a FB in front of CJ too much this weekend, and that seems to work out pretty well for him.
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Ahmard Hall is a stud FB for the Titans and they have a much better O-Line than we do!
didn’t they only surrender like 10-15 sacks all of last season ???
impressive considering old man statue Collins in there for the first 6 weeks especially
September 7th, 2010 at 9:17 am
The home team has to pay for tickets. There was an article on CNN this year about Tampa doing that last year. They get them at something like $.23 on the dollar (dont quote me on that I dont remember the exact #) but they do have to buy them. So they could feasibly give them all away if they wanted, because they already bought them.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Waht about the Jets veteran FB who was put on waivers.
anybody claim him?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Yeah, for a team that drafted Ritchie and Oneal, you would think they would recognize that our o-line is already weak so it is even more important to have a good blocking FB to open up holes for our running game.
And for a team that won SBs thanks in large part to a dominating o-line, you would think we could use a high draft pick or two on o-line. The Gallery bust must have really scared old Al.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
weaselbit, he re-signed with the Jets.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Sh@t
September 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Tennessee has one of the best OLines in football. Jamarcus russell took more sacks in what 6 starts last year than Tenn has given up in TWO years!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
all i know is that i give much thanks to the raiders for letting the game radio feed stream online. that nfl field pass or whatever it’s call is a total rip off with the crazy pricing. of course living in so cal i could in theory get it on the normal radio am band, but my luck, i live next to the san bernardino mountains and radio reception is beyond crappy.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Is John Conner good at recovering fumbles?
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No longer a concern now that Russell and his greasy fingers are gone.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Crister you can watch all the games for free online.
Get on this blog during the game and people will tell you what links are up and running.
Then post comments during the game.
It’s fun.
I was listening to the radio feed too but this is way better.
But most of all it’s free.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Russell and his greasy fingers are gone
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LOL!
TK appears to have put the bucket of KFC down too, at least for now
lost 35 pounds and ackowledges that the D-Line must get it done. boxing now (worked wonders for LaMont Jordan, didn’t it?)
hope Seymour is 100 percent for TN. I could care less about Bryant’s elbow. pay the same guy that slaps Henderson’s face to slap Bryant’s elbow!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Dakta:
No longer a concern now that Russell and his greasy fingers are gone.
Weasel:
You would have thought all that sticky cough syrup would’ve helped him to hang on to the ball better!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Is John Conner good at recovering fumbles?
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No longer a concern now that Russell and his greasy fingers are gone.
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LOL. Just remember to pull your head out for a breath every now and then…
September 7th, 2010 at 9:24 am
In 1989, the Raiders had about 40,000 season-ticket holders in the 92,000-seat plus Coliseum. Their average attendance that year was 52,6255.
The worst year in Los Angeles 1993, the Raiders averaged 41,000 a game.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:24 am
You have to have a good O-line to use just a blocking FB, because with him on the field, you are basically tipping your hand on the play-call.
Reese may not be a great lead-blocker, but he is a better receiver than just about any FB in the league. And you can bring back Moose Johnston to lead-block for this team, it won’t help much if he has to block two guys and McFAdden is just plowing into the back of him anyways.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Jerry,
You hit nail on the head. I had season tix for four years. I need the Raider to show me something… anything B4 I pay to sit there again.
There were a few times where I would be sitting in the Coli in the rain watching them get whooped and really questioning my sanity.
It was like paying someone to kick you in the balls every week.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Probably why Russell couldn’t throw accurately because the ball was sticking to his syrup-encrusted hand.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that the Titans and Redskins have again engaged in trade talk about Haynesworth. There is no deal yet. Mort says the Redskins’ asking price of two draft picks remains too high for Tennessee.
The Redskins already paid Haynesworth’s massive option bonus this year, so the Titans have a chance to get a player they know best at a huge discount. The Redskins would just be admitting a massively expensive mistake that Mike Shanahan hasn’t helped fix.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I live in Sacramento. we are blacked out. I get to see the pre season games live when they play in oakland but the regular season games are blacked oout. i think if we pay a premium like NFL ticket we should get these games.
I been a season ticket holder for the last 6 years and this year I didnt renew because of the cost involved.
Im kinda nerdy as I have every game recorded since 1994. and I have no way to get the full games this year.. for people who are out of market you are lucky at least you have the chance to see them on tv.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Raidertay
You could probably get someone to kick you for free.
You shouldn’t be paying for that.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:27 am
you can bring back Moose Johnston to lead-block for this team, it won’t help much if he has to block two guys and McFAdden is just plowing into the back of him anyways
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JFB: you’re giving up on our running game before the season even starts ???
sad man.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Jerry – you have to consider that many fans are probably waiting until the end of preseason to purchase their season tix as they don’t want to pay for preseason, especially in this economy.
That said, that does seem like quite a low number and we’ll probably have many blackouts as you pointed out. The Raiders are not alone in this though. But what do some of these teams expect when they keep raising ticket prices despite the economy? Do they think they’re above the economic slump? Unless you have a new stadium with a good team, lower the ticket prices!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:29 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that the Titans and Redskins have again engaged in trade talk about Haynesworth. There is no deal yet. Mort says the Redskins’ asking price of two draft picks remains too high for Tennessee.
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trade Desmond Bryant, Nick Miller & next year’s 3rd rounder to Washington for Fat Albert!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am
This is a good thing. I wish every team the same problem.
Owners & players making hundreds of millions of dollars.
What do fans get? They get to pay overinflated ticket prices, parking fees, and concession prices (A family of 4 could feed itself for a week on what 1 day at the park would cost.)
Then, on top of that, the citizens have to pay taxes for the owners to get huge new stadiums that very few can afford to attend.
Maybe this will be a wakeup call for everyone.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Shanahan’s an a stressed out man-rat.
When he coached the Raiders he cut Todd Christensen who was all pro the year before.
Sure he wasn’t particularly big or fast but he knew how to play receiving tight end.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Hey Jerry,
In fairness to the Raiders A LOT of those games eventually sold out, but simply did not sell out in time.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Rockstar,
Don’t think the running game will be much better than last year.
This will be a pass-first offense for the most part. Look at the preseason drives with JC. Screens, and 15 yard passes were the success, with some success giving it to Bush. Bruce was zinging it all around the field.
Darren was hurt and had 7 carries for 9 yards, lol. Sorry, not putting much hope into that.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
I think the Raiders belong in Oakland and I hope they find a way to stay. But at this point I think its not a matter of if, but when they end up going back to Los Angeles. Al even said in an interview with Ice Cube earlier this year, “build me a stadium and we’ll talk” when asked about the team possibly returning to LA.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
altho they said on ESPN that Wash coaches thought Haynesworth played awful.
Not that that means it’s true, coming from espn
September 7th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Davis should have never moved from LA.
Just another in a series of mistakes.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:34 am
The City of New Orleans decided to shut down parts of the city for a freakin NFL kickoff weekend parade!
Business owners will have to close their business for 2 days.
What kind of crap is that? Take money out of the hands of your LOCAL business owners because your team needs a frickin parade!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Jerry, can write all about the product on the field, but he also must understand, the unemployment of California, the largest state in the union as a factor.
I, go to all the games, even I, attended for the first time in many years, the SF, and Seattle games.
I must be color blind, with no suck ass points by me, I don’t notice any color. I notice a Nation of Raiders and how much they love their Silver n Black.
To Jerry’s point, HD TV is fantastic. The smell of the game is non exsistent, the people who attend, you’ll never meet and the game is so much better live.
TV, will only show you, what some pointy hair producer tells, the cameras to pan to. I can see all, and don’t need my vision focused on what they say, I’m going to see.
Raider Nation is unlike any other stadium. The music, food selections and how everyone on one given day sets aside all, and becomes one Nation.
I enjoy the tailgate, it’s a lot of work to prepare for game day. The time to break it up, and then down and then store, all of the tailgate fixtures and such can be tiring. (Especially the last 7 years)
I wish more people were there in attendance, and the economy was better. These blackouts only hurt, the Nation from viewing the Raiders and their familys and kids.
The game day is like no other, were still loud and crazy. The product on the field will be better, it’s just time for all who do attend the games to be faithful and be who we are, Raider Nation!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:36 am
The Raiders peaked in 2006 attendance wise.
The Raider’s sold 37,000 season tickets in 2006, up from the 29,000 sold in 2005.
Raider attendance in 2005 averaged 52,307 at the Oakland Coliseum.
This was after they took over the selling of tickets from the Oakland Football Marketing Association and set up a 25 person ticketing operation in Alameda.
I wonder how many people are selling now in that department.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Al was promised a new stadium to come back to Oakland. Thats why he sued them. I think he won too.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:36 am
They should freeze or lower ticket prices for the rich and incresse ticket prices for low and medium income.The top 2% of income earners should have free parking! were as the middle class should have parking fees doubled.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Big Bannana,
The economy was fine in 2007, 2006, 2005 etc…the economy was great in the 1990s…a team just won’t prosper in Oakland…especially after Al already ripped the team from there once.
Time to move on and bring the team back to LA.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
The NFL is getting spanked by NCAA football in terms of reeling in fans and bringing money in. It’s pretty sad that little towns like Ann Arbor can bring in 100K people, but Detroit proper cant get 30K. At some point, this sport may return to its roots, where college football was considered the pinnacle of the sport, and the pro teams were an afterthought. Goodell, in my opinion, has done an awful job in promoting the National Football League. He continues to push the sport globally, while half the teams have dwindling fan bases at home. The average american fan has become more priced-out, disenfranchised, alienated and ignored than ever before. At its roots, the NFL is a blue collar sport, meant for blue collar fans, that want to A. view all of the games without putting their families in financial jeopardy, and B. celebrate and watch with family and friends (i.e. tailgate versus BBQ at home). If Goodell continues to strain the resources of the key demographics that only want those two simple things, he may soon watch this house of cards crumble.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am
I loved going to the games, but when I went I would just stay at Mom’s and drive ten minutes to the Bart station and walk right in.
Much different to travel, with a family, and that whole ordeal.
The couch, in HD, with DVR pausing-rewinding abilities, and non-$8 brews and cocktails seems a lot more promising these days.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am
hey Dell!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I couldnt agree with that last post more BBB
September 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Neil b…
good luck tonight
September 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am
If you charge a premium price for an inferior product, people are going to stop paying until you dramatically reduce your prices or until you improve the quality of your product enough to justify the price. Bring in some decent recievers and reliable o linemen and things might start to change.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Next year when the Greedy owners lock the stingy players out of the stadiums is going to be the beginning of that collapse. The NHL STILL hasnt recovered from its strike in the 90s. Not to say the NFL wont recover, but it wont be the same. I say they will lose 35% of their audience… the casual watchers. Diehard fans will be there because lets face it…we are addicts. We sit on blogs day in and day out analysing every little minutia of our team. We will still watch.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:43 am
HD rocks.
Of course I am in Virginia, so I get to see every game.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:44 am
RRS
So who guessed right on the final 53. You or I.
I’m guessing , I may have?
What’s the tally.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Bring in some decent recievers and reliable o linemen and things might start to change
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like who ???
September 7th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Dakota – I was speaking in general terms with respect to all those teams that have trouble selling. But to address your comment, the team wreaked most of those years. And prior to that, there was the PSL crap that kept many fans away. We’ve yet to see a successful team under the new ticket management. Once we do, then we can talk about whether or not Oakland is a good town for the Raiders.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Dell: you probably won
you guessed Howard.
I didn’t expect to see Goethel, Groves, Howard & Williams all make it, especially with #53 on the trade block
Scott moved back to DE, but i’m still a bit puzzled
thinking Howard may be cut when Goethel is healthy or Lawton’s suspension is up
September 7th, 2010 at 9:48 am
post #71
and Ricky Brown!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Good luck against Iceland LMN!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Awww….the poor baby….Moss is feeling “not wanted” in NE.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
But even the addicts will continue find ways to enjoy the sport without padding the pockets of the rich, who have shown how little they care about the product on the field. Becuase of this blog, I have discovered numerous ways to view the blacked out games on the web, and before that I would just tune in on the radio. Even though this team has way more positive vibes than years past, most/all of my Raider buddies are considering alternative means of getting together to watch our team and shout “RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDEEEERRRS”. The stadium experience is second to none, but as more and more people find that it is no longer worth the trouble, the stadium experience will only get worse. Because, I think we all can agree it is really the crowd that makes going to the games soooo much better than watching from home.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:52 am
“I am a little older and understand the nature of the business — the older you get the more your skills supposedly diminish, but I think I am getting wiser in how to use my physical skills. That’s the frustrating part when you put so much heart and desire into things and feel like you are not wanted.”
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Right. You’re getting wiser and not running out your routes when you feel you’re not getting the ball. Very wise. Oh, and you’re well known amongst fans for putting in “so much heart and desire”. lol…friggin punk!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:52 am
bcz24, right on the money. That’s why Farve said it was his last year. He will be forced into retirement next season by the lockout. lol
September 7th, 2010 at 9:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Dell: you probably won
you guessed Howard.
I didn’t expect to see Goethel, Groves, Howard & Williams all make it, especially with #53 on the trade block
Scott moved back to DE, but i’m still a bit puzzled
thinking Howard may be cut when Goethel is healthy or Lawton’s suspension is up
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RRS,
Great comments, yet where did Loper fit in. I have yet to rewatch the games, I really never notice his impact.
That move really caught me. The other move was Richardson, to IR and possibly waived.
I’m assuming by his tweet, he will be waived after a doctor clears him to play or is healthy.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:55 am
It’s nothing new and it’s going on everywhere.As a boy I went to just about all of my local football teams’ games.Today,even in full time employment I couldn’t afford to do that,and in fact it’s been a few years since I was at a game.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Raiders > 1 droppred pass = week 1 loss
September 7th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Owners have the right to lockout, if the union isn’t going to listen to any demands about readjusting rookie salary caps and the like.
They need to meet somewhere in the middle, and the players don’t want to budge, so they will make their bed, and I hope they can lay it.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Awww….the poor baby….Moss is feeling “not wanted” in NE.
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Why ???
Wes Welker is limping back from injury and his clone Julian Edelman is just a slot guy
Taylor Price, Matthew Slater & Brandon Tate getting some love from Pats brass?
September 7th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Unemployment and a bad economy hits fans of color the hardest.
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ATL and the Saints have no problem selling out. When they had good teams or bad teams they show up and their stadiums are full of color.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:00 am
if the union isn’t going to listen to any demands about readjusting rookie salary caps and the like.
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MORONS! You would think it would be in their best interest to adjust the rookie salary structure and, therefore, free up more money for vets that have actually SHOWN something. As you’ve put nicely, hope they can lay in the bed they’re making.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:00 am
# raidertay Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Unemployment and a bad economy hits fans of color the hardest.
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ATL and the Saints have no problem selling out. When they had good teams or bad teams they show up and their stadiums are full of color.
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Actually, New Orleans was in trouble just a few years ago. If not for Katrina and the media outcry to keep the team there, the Saints would be playing in San Antonio right now.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:02 am
RRS
Is the baby room painted? How is the wife doing?
Did you really go squirrel hunting this past weekend?
September 7th, 2010 at 10:03 am
It’s all relative.Do you the highest earners care about the lowest?
September 7th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I don’t think the hold up in the labor negotiations is due to the rookie cap. The owners want the players to take a smaller percentage of total revenue and play 18 games instead of 16. The players don’t want to take less money.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:04 am
There has to be 2 players available than can help us more than Sam Williams and Yamon Figurs right?
September 7th, 2010 at 10:07 am
# inonewordraider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:04 am
There has to be 2 players available than can help us more than Sam Williams and Yamon Figurs right?
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Many of us were hoping for Tony Richardson and TJ….but that ship has sailed.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I don’t think the hold up in the labor negotiations is due to the rookie cap. The owners want the players to take a smaller percentage of total revenue and play 18 games instead of 16. The players don’t want to take less money.
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I think it’s a pi$$ing game.The biggest ego will win.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Is the baby room painted? How is the wife doing?
Did you really go squirrel hunting this past weekend?
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Dell: baby room is painted. crib is set up. new curtains & rod up
squirrel hunting on saturday was a blast. only shot 3 though (2 grey, 1 red)
Sunday was the church picnic. awesome time. jumped off this huge cliff though and STILL haven’t got the water out of my ear! swimmers ear? difficuly to hear out of this one :/
September 7th, 2010 at 10:08 am
………and we’ll all lose.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Rockstar….
You’d get the law after you if you shot a red over here.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Fottball used to be affordable to watch in person. In 1989, the Raiders raised ticket prices in L.A. The highest-priced tickets went from $28 to $30 a seat. That affected 27,000 seats along the Coliseum sidelines. The rest of the tickets, priced at $20 and $13, remained the same.
Compare that to prices today for a family of 4. Even the free $100. Lucky gift card for new holders.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:11 am
nevermind. just googled “swimmers ear”
no infection, inflammation, ache, dermatitis
whew. some disgusting pix on that too
*puke*
September 7th, 2010 at 10:11 am
The salary issues between the union and League will be settled sooner in their talks regarding salary cap ,rookie salarys, and veteran years, minimun and a like.
The real isssue is the share of the gate or gross receipts.
That will be the sticking point. The owners are on record to reduce that number, the players union will have none of it. Presto, that is where the lockout will occur, it seems to me both sides will not budge.
The playes after the last lockout gave in, this previous contract that was decided a few years back was agreed to by the owners, reluctantly.
The owners, are increasing their demands and the players don’t want anything less then the currently have.
I believe the owners have been talking about the 18 game schedule, as a bargaining chip. To have the players, reduce their demands or play more games, just my humble opinion of what I’ve read.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:12 am
You’d get the law after you if you shot a red over here.
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can’t shoot red squirrels in the UK?
September 7th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I would rather roll into the season with a 52-man roster than carry that saboteur Yamon Figurs. When we finally cut him(when not if)he will get snatched up by our next opponent to spill the beans on our gameplan. Don’t let this Benedict Arnold into Alameda. I still cant figure out what he has done to earn the Johnnie Morant Triennial Scholarship Program; Al must have wanted to draft him in 2007, but Baltimore snagged him before we got the chance.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:13 am
You can shoot all the tree rats you want as far as I’m concerned. Vermin!! I offed quite a few of them this year, myself. Trying to go after my fruit trees!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Seems the owners have admitted that an 18 game season will translate to a 1/8 increase in player salaries.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Checking……
September 7th, 2010 at 10:16 am
was skinning 1 squirrel and found where 1 bullet hit him square in the nuts … seriously
HAHA!
probably the one that ended it for him
September 7th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Dakota
Hope all is well.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:17 am
The red squirrel is protected in most of Europe, as it is listed in Appendix III of the Bern Convention; it is listed as Least Concern on the IUCN Red List. In some areas it is abundant and is hunted for its fur. Although not thought to be under any threat worldwide, the red squirrel has drastically reduced in number in the United Kingdom. Fewer than 140,000 individuals are thought to be left, approximately 85% of which are in Scotland. This population decrease is often ascribed to the introduction of the eastern grey squirrel from North America, but the loss and fragmentation of its native woodland habitat has also played a major role.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Figurs & Williams aren’t going to make or break this team imo
they are basically here to provide value and depth on special teams – nothing more, nothing less
fix the lines = fix the Raiders!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:19 am
neilb Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:17 am
The red squirrel is protected in most of Europe, as it is listed in Appendix III of the Bern Convention; it is listed as Least Concern on the IUCN Red List. In some areas it is abundant and is hunted for its fur. Although not thought to be under any threat worldwide, the red squirrel has drastically reduced in number in the United Kingdom. Fewer than 140,000 individuals are thought to be left, approximately 85% of which are in Scotland. This population decrease is often ascribed to the introduction of the eastern grey squirrel from North America, but the loss and fragmentation of its native woodland habitat has also played a major role.
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Neilb,
Ok good article. So who is eating the squirrel or to my point , why are they so extinct.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:21 am
to clarify, we hunt squirrels in the woods – not in the backyard!
thats too cheap and easy
Dell: bring a 22 or 410 with you to Podunk sometime and i’ll bring you along
ever had squirrel & dumplings ???
September 7th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Dell…..
I think the last 2 lines introduction of the grey and loss of habitat.
I’ve never eaten squirrel……..
September 7th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Beaver on the other hand……..
September 7th, 2010 at 10:24 am
LoL… I tear into some Beaver i tell ya
September 7th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Trade DMAC for Red Squirrel nuts!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:25 am
ever had squirrel & dumplings ???
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Is that served, with mashed potatoes and gravy, and a vegetable.
Let me try to choke this down, is it tasty, and what happens to the tail.
Is this a cuisine in middle america, or just a fancy way to call squirrel meat from gaging.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:25 am
I didn’t think the beaver joke would get by the censor!!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Neilb
Very interesting. I read the last two lines, just can’t understand why the grey survives, with less habitat and the red, doesn’t in the same habitat.
Habitat, referring less gren more, industrialized area, I think.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Neilb
I don’t plan on eatin squirrel either.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Dell…..
I think it’s to do with the grey being more aggressive than the red.
Checking again…
September 7th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Raider Dell Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:25 am
ever had squirrel & dumplings ???
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:21 am
to clarify, we hunt squirrels in the woods – not in the backyard!
thats too cheap and easy
when you two go too the bathroom please quit playing with the squirrels tail
September 7th, 2010 at 10:31 am
The eastern grey squirrel can easily digest acorns, while the red squirrel cannot.
The eastern grey squirrel carries a disease, the squirrel parapoxvirus, that does not appear to affect their health but will often kill the red squirrel. It was revealed in 2008 that the numbers of red squirrels at Formby have recently declined by 80% as a result of this disease.
When the red squirrel is put under pressure, it will not breed as often.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I guess this relates, to this upcoming weekends game against Tenn. The Raiders are the grey squirrel and Chris Johnson is the red squirrel.
We will devour the red due, to more of them(raider players) surrounding him, Chris Johnson.
How’s that work into the topic and comment of this weekend?
September 7th, 2010 at 10:32 am
MY POST #117 was wrong.No proof of that happening.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Dell….
Squirrel-enomics? Works for me.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:34 am
to clarify, we hunt squirrels in the woods – not in the backyard!
thats too cheap and easy
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Anything stealing fruit from my trees is fair game, easy or not. Heck, neighbor is lucky I didn’t shoot her when I caught her stealing some fruit.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:11 am
play Bruce Campbell at Fullback.
get him used to blocking inside!
Marcel Reece blocking for McFadden & Bennett is weak
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Lamarr Houston
September 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Reggie Bush to be stripped of his Heisman trophy (DMAC would have lost it on his own).
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/09/yahoo-sports-bush-will-lose-heisman/1
September 7th, 2010 at 10:36 am
http://www.saveoursquirrels.org.uk/
This is from my part of the world…..and I didn’t even know it!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Dell: here is the recipe (surprised I found it online)
http://www.mountain-breeze.com/kitchen/game/squirrels2.html
squirrels we got on Sat is already in the fridge, cut in peices, washed & free of hair
tail gets thrown away along with the rest of the fur, unless you can sell it (worth next to nothing right now)
September 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
What’s the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?
Beer nuts are $1.89 and deer nuts are under a buck
September 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Get Condo in at fullback.He must be bored every game.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Anything stealing fruit from my trees is fair game, easy or not. Heck, neighbor is lucky I didn’t shoot her when I caught her stealing some fruit.
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Banana: fair enough man
I’d do the same thing. have no fruit trees in my yard to worry about though
September 7th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Anything stealing fruit from my trees is fair game, easy or not. Heck, neighbor is lucky I didn’t shoot her when I caught her stealing some fruit.
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Big Banana
Funny story. I live on some acres, and caught a family down near my pond, with a picnic table and food, and some of my fruit enjoying the scenery. I came upon them and asked “what were they doing’ they replied, “I thought this was open so we stopped to eat our lunch”. I found during our conversation they were from Peru, and just stopped.
Crazy, but true.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:40 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Fottball used to be affordable to watch in person. In 1989, the Raiders raised ticket prices in L.A. The highest-priced tickets went from $28 to $30 a seat. That affected 27,000 seats along the Coliseum sidelines. The rest of the tickets, priced at $20 and $13, remained the same.
Compare that to prices today for a family of 4. Even the free $100. Lucky gift card for new holders.
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To quote Chris Tucker from the movie Friday: “N**ga’s be broke these days…”
Thanks to Repubs greed and stadiums that cost $1.5 billion fans who supported and made the League great are being excluded.
Told you, told you, told you.
Saw it coming when Paul Tagliabue parted out the Leauge to a hole corporations this would happen.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:41 am
neilb Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Get Condo in at fullback.He must be bored every game.
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Supposedly Eric Pears is the one.
Can’t believe he made the team. Sucktacular…
September 7th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Condo isn’t bored. we punt 3 out of every 4 drives on offense!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:45 am
All these squirrel comments, have me looking for a mid morning snack. Just got to work also, oh.. what the heck, let me go outside and find the nearest squirrel.
Heck no, let me walk over to Starbucks.
See you in a few.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Yeah,Im off too.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Pears is a blocking TE, not FB.
the reason I suggested Campbell instead of Houston is because we need Lamarr on defense.
BCamp is just gonna waste away on the bench all year unless we find a way to get him on the field. put him at FB and let him put a hat on some LB’s!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
My favorite part of the squirrel are the wings.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:49 am
fatty: Buffalo Wings are the best!
September 7th, 2010 at 10:51 am
let me walk over to Starbucks.
See you in a few
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Folgers Columbian > Starsucks
coffee at work (not sure what brand it is) = mixture of dirt & camel droppings
September 7th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Q: Have you seen an RB as Chris Johnson, or at least as fast as he looks on tape?
McClain: Like I said I practiced against Darren McFadden every day in practice.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Titans RB Chris Johnson still thinks 2,500 rushing yards is a realistic goal. well we will throw a wrench in that.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:57 am
After seven consecutive seasons of 11 or more losses, an on-going NFL record, you can’t fault fans for taking a “show me” approach to purchasing tickets.
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Oh, yes you can. And in case you have noticed, about 90% of your commenters do that in here for a living.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Can’t decide which I hate more:
Squirrels or NFL blackout rules from the 50s.
Nope, hate rookie salaries more than either.
September 7th, 2010 at 10:59 am
coffee at work (not sure what brand it is) = mixture of dirt & camel droppings
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lol – i think we carry that same brand.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Al davis provides the best bang for the buck among nfl teams.you can enjoy a nfl game for less than the price of a dime bag.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:07 am
i think we carry that same brand.
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haha
so Banana, how was the 3 day weekend man?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Time to dump Oakland once again and get back to LA. They may still not sell out games, but at least in LA you can attract decent free agents by using the glamour of the city…what is the selling point of Oakland? That players can live in San Francisco?
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Spoken like a true rube from the Dakotas.
And what glamor would players be seeking in LA? Their own reality show, and a ride on Kim Kardashian? I know you guys dont have televisions yet where you live, but Hollywood isn’t as glamorous as it was even 10 years ago. The recession has hit there too, and reality t.v. is cheap and therefore rules the day. you don’t have to go to LA to get notoriety anymore. All you have to do is get really drunk and start acting ridiculous around a bunch of people with cell phones.
And, I would never expect you to understand this, but a lot of people of, I’ll use Jerry’s term here, “color”, like the bay area, athletes included, because it’s one of the more socially tolerant environments in this country where they can be themselves and not have to adhere to the standards of people who, let’s just say, are not of color. The bay area also has the best pot in the country. Like I said, a lot of people who like to be themselves like it in the bay.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:11 am
After team’s inability to land any quality players from the other teams’ final cuts, I’m losing some enthusiasm for this upcoming season. No decent player wants to come play for Al Davis and endure losing season(s).
Local fans in the bay area are looking at 8 blackouts to top off the excitements of a new season. This all while across the bay the niners have built up a quality team to battle for playoffs, passed a new stadium bill, …..
It’s real sad. And it all goes back to one man’s failure in present while dreaming about the glories of his past. Team of the decades, says JT the Brick………..
How pathetic!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:17 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:11 am
The bay area also has the best pot in the country.
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RMR speaking the truth!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Thanks Geraldine,..this was my fave thread ever,…I, as well as the suits in Alameda pray for no local television,..we have different reasons for it,..but I certainly hope no game is televised locally this year,…I of course wont miss a play, but I looooove hearing the crybabies on monday snivlin about how they didnt get to see the game….makes my day…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Peter King at SI predicts 8-8 or 9-7 for the Raiders this season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nfl/2010/09/02/090310.king_raiders.SportsIllustrated/index.html
September 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Bobby!
how you doing porky?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Bay area has good pot, but its not locally grown….bay area is best known as a trashy place where you can get a crappy apartment for 1500 a month,..buy a dump for 1.2 million…spend half your day in traffic and pollution…extreme crime rate,..and of course the worst city in the country, SF, is simply a sewer…only regret I had about leaving bay area is didnt do it sooner.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Peter King at SI predicts 8-8 or 9-7 for the Raiders this season.
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Jerry Mac says 7-9
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
The finest weed in the world comes from Vancouver
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Doin great, just booked 4.5 star hotel in Glendale for Raiders game,..place goes for 275 a night, but hotels.com I got it for 88 bucks..hey now.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
MR….dont wanna agree with ya but you told Dakota the truth. Dakota has a vendetta against Oakland. We already saw what LA did for the Raiders. All Oakland swagger vanished. Leave LA nonsense alone and enjoy when Chargers or Niners move there.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:24 am
I grow the pest grass ever,…in Arcata…I predict Raiders go 5-11,…keepin it real kiddies,…im more concerned about my wings and ribs, new sauce, then I am about the Raiders record.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Brian!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Peter King at SI predicts 8-8 or 9-7 for the Raiders this season.
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Jerry Mac says 7-9
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Jim Trotter SI, says 8-8
September 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
ROG: I thought SF was getting a new stadium near Santa Clara or something?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hahahahaha bob!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Chargers returning to L.A.,…for sure,….2012….would say next year but no football in 2011.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Niners arent going to Santa Clara,…no money.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I predict Raiders go 5-11,…keepin it real kiddies,…im more concerned about my wings and ribs
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LOL!
Bobby: what about the run defense? 29th overall again?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
RRS that measure got passed just like A’s stadium…..but where is the other 800 million gonna come from?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
I couldnt care less about any run defense,..bfd.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Norco,
Staying in Westgate? I’m at the Staybridge with the wife, and a few others.
Are you going to duck out of me buying a round again or what?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Raiders at worse go 8-8
September 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
RRS that measure got passed just like A’s stadium…..but where is the other 800 million gonna come from?
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The we want to keep our franchise from going elsewhwere tax…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Drexl Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Peter King at SI predicts 8-8 or 9-7 for the Raiders this season.
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Jerry Mac says 7-9
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Jim Trotter SI, says 8-8
one of the top nfl experts fat kidd is predicting 10-6
September 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am
10-6 AFC west champs, first round bye…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
# Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Big Bannana,
The economy was fine in 2007, 2006, 2005 etc…the economy was great in the 1990s…a team just won’t prosper in Oakland…especially after Al already ripped the team from there once.
Time to move on and bring the team back to LA.
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My goodness, you are just on a roll today with the dumb comments, aren’t you?
The economy was fine in 2007? 2006? Just what is your definition of fine? This country has seen nothing but job loss from just about the time Bush took office. Sure, the economy wasn’t as bad, per se, in 2007 as it is now, but an exodus of living wage jobs had already been sweeping the nation and people have been tightening their belts since 2000. For a decade now. You’re not going to find a time in America in the past 10 years where smart Americans, who know how to manage money, were saying to themselves, “everything’s great, we can afford that!”. You’d have to go back to 1999 to find that time. Only idiots have been spending money, and they’re paying for it now, and they know it. And, Jerry’s point being noted on the few games that were blacked out when the Raiders got good under Gruden, the Raiders sold out a lot of games in 2000 and 2001. I think they sold out a few in 1999, too. Oakland was a much better city 10 years ago than it is today, like a lot of cities. I know you view Oakland as a war town African rogue state, and I wouldn’t expect you to view it any other way, considering that the only time you’ve left your trailer park in Dakota was to go to Disneyland with your wife, but it’s really not. Broadway, North Oakland, Rockridge, etc are some of the nicest urban communities in the country, and they were booming with business in the late ’90s. Oakland was not a ghost town then, somehow helpless even in a great economy, or whatever you imagine. Oakland thrived as the country thrived. And the murder rate even in the poorest areas wasn’t a fraction of what it was today. I know you like to talk politics and all but you should really stick to what you know, because you don’t know jack squat about Oakland.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Bob……got a few fella bloggers who wont see a blackout cuz they will be at game and tailgates….dirty raccoon hwnrdr raiderlen dell and mista among others
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Are you all friggin kiddin me? You blame blackouts on the inability to win games for 7 years when before that we were in a SB?
You all are the definition of fare weather fans. There’s at least 9 teams that will have a worse record than we will and I bet they sellout more games. From now on none of you guys get any credit if you can’t tell me what game your going to.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
MR….dont wanna agree with ya but you told Dakota the truth. Dakota has a vendetta against Oakland. We already saw what LA did for the Raiders. All Oakland swagger vanished. Leave LA nonsense alone and enjoy when Chargers or Niners move there.
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Fair enough, but still gotta get the team outta Oakhole.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Duck out?…never made plans with you before dude.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Wow MR rippin today? Ill sit back and watch…..have at it sir
September 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am
whats more likely to happen with DHB, Week 1:
A: leads the team in receptions
B: leads the team in drops
C: decoy (invisable)
D: injured
please weigh in!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am
E. Has a good game…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am
honestly, I think Jason Campell has a better chance to throw for 300 yards on Sunday than Vince Young does 150 yards
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
You came out to Vegas talking the big game and than crickets.
You tell anyone and everyone to “come to my tailgate, lot D, blah blah blah” so let’s do it up in AZ.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Bo….and go where? Go to a place that doesnt know what the Raiders are about? Yeah cut off the people who were down since the 60s again? Raiders arent about glamour n schit. See the aura? That dont resemble any other place but Oakland
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
MR…will be at Players on Sunrise this sunday,..all day…pop in for a brew!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
(DHB) Has a good game…
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Thec: please continue
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Oh,..you used to be Vegas Raider?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am
8raider……im at rams game next weekend…..u?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am
whats more likely to happen with DHB, Week 1:
A: leads the team in receptions
B: leads the team in drops
C: decoy (invisable)
D: injured
please weigh in!
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E: 4 catches 52 yards, 1 drop
September 7th, 2010 at 11:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
(DHB) Has a good game…
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Thec: please continue
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With the titans secodary, and lack of pass rush we will be able to tthrow on the titans….
DHB will have a good game 7 receptions 112 yrds, 1TD
September 7th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Bo….and go where? Go to a place that doesnt know what the Raiders are about? Yeah cut off the people who were down since the 60s again? Raiders arent about glamour n schit. See the aura? That dont resemble any other place but Oakland
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GREATER Bay Area, perhaps? The “aura” in oakhole is not something to aspire to…maybe in the 80s.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:40 am
You know what I learned when I went to South Africa for the World Cup? People all over the world repect the Bay Area 1 million times more than any place in Middle America.
Oh and by the way, businesses agree.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Yessir, don’t live in Vegas anymore.
Anyways, we will have plenty of dank, about 6 members of Raider Nation for the game. If your down for a few rounds before or after, or tailgating, let me know.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bob a man of his word…..known the guy since Gruden days….hates jerry rice….called the bust qb way early….solid cat
September 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
so Banana, how was the 3 day weekend man?
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pretty good. headed out to the North Bay on Sat, eat some good food, visit the fam. Sun and Mon was just me & the wifey mixin errands with pleasure.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Possibly
September 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Yamon figurs takes the opening kickoff to the raiders 45 yard line.first play from scrimmage is a 65 yd completion too dhb touchdown raideeeeeeeeeeerrrrrsss
September 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Those of you suggesting the Raiders leave Oakland…and then recommend moving to Los Angeles. Why would you want to kill your credibility instantly by recommending moving to a city well noted as being the worst football city in the country?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Are you all friggin kiddin me? You blame blackouts on the inability to win games for 7 years when before that we were in a SB?
You all are the definition of fare weather fans. There’s at least 9 teams that will have a worse record than we will and I bet they sellout more games. From now on none of you guys get any credit if you can’t tell me what game your going to.
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Lets see.
Aug 28 been there, seen that.
Sep 2 been there, seen that.
Next up Sep 19th
I will be at every game the same as last year.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:43 am
fat kidd Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:23 am
The finest weed in the world comes from Vancouver
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I will need to decide for myself, hook a brotha up!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:44 am
HairyBush: 4 catches 52 yards, 1 drop
Thec07: 7 receptions 112 yrds, 1TD
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Hmmm
who is starting opposite Cortland Finnegan?
Jason McCourty, Ryan Mouton or Alterraun Verner?
Rod Hood is on IR
September 7th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Greater bay area? they looked at pleasanton but it didnt work……Bo where the coliseum resides is best location possible….BART main reason…..most centrally located place
September 7th, 2010 at 11:44 am
B, there are plenty of blue collar areas that could house the team, and keep the glamour out of it. Maybe out in Folsom by Bob?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Raiders attendance was around 20,000 for final pre season game? I guarantee you that if we were still in LA, the attendance would be 10,000. Guarantee it.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Where ya watching Titans game brian?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I got charger tix 1st
September 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Would you like them in Sac MR?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Greater bay area? they looked at pleasanton but it didnt work……Bo where the coliseum resides is best location possible….BART main reason…..most centrally located place
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You need to think outside the hood.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Yamon figurs takes the opening kickoff to the raiders 45 yard line.first play from scrimmage is a 65 yd completion too dhb touchdown raideeeeeeeeeeerrrrrsss
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fatty: that would be sweet!
more likely?
McFadden slant right for 6 yards.
Campbell short dumpoff to Reece for 3 yards.
Campbell incomplete to Murphy
Punt
September 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Lol MR making much sense right now….they want them in LA because they feel entitled to them when they didnt belong there in first place……Al f-kd up
September 7th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Z. Miller will lead the team this Sunday in receptions (I’m really going out on a limb here lol). He will have around 90ish yards followed by L. Murphy and then DHB and DMAC pulling up the rear. BTW the Raiders will try to keep the Titans off guard and start M. Bush, but he never actually touches the ball.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:48 am
The NFL has tweaked its rule regarding where umpires will line up. Again.
The league sent all 32 teams a memo Tuesday explaining the changes. The umpire will now be 12 yards from the offense’s line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped. Originally, it was 15.
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Will Manning be happy now? I doubt it.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
who is starting opposite Cortland Finnegan?
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Jason McCourty… Neither one can hang with DHB…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
more likely?
McFadden slant right for 6 yards.
Campbell short dumpoff to Reece for 3 yards.
Campbell incomplete to Murphy
Punt
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your killing by buzz lol
September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
MR in a good mood today,..must have gotten a perfectly made smoothie from Jamba Juice today,..nice!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
*my
September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Let the Raiders and the Nation stay in Oakland. Be civic minded, and work throught the political issues and don’t be slapping down the area. Al cities have blythe and poor areas, just don’t assume Oakland is worse for bad publicity and jokes from the challenged status in San Francisco.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
It’s going to be a blackout year alright, “Crown” bombs and Lagunitas Ales in the B lot all season long.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
And no I’m not a season tix holder (credit cards), but I will be at a majority like last year. That pass to Russel against the Eagles was the best time ive had at the stadium. Chargers game too until the last 1:30.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bo….name blue collar area that has connection to Raiders like Oakland…..you cant and you wont. You just reaching now and want some fake newbies to pretend……..hood? Has nada to do with that. Location is perfect due to bart!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Yamon figurs takes the opening kickoff to the raiders 45 yard line.first play from scrimmage is a 65 yd completion too dhb touchdown raideeeeeeeeeeerrrrrsss
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fatty: that would be sweet!
more likely?
McFadden slant right for 6 yards.
Campbell short dumpoff to Reece for 3 yards.
Campbell incomplete to Murphy
Punt
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wrong first posession we solider right down the titans throat for a TD…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
the Raiders will try to keep the Titans off guard and start M. Bush, but he never actually touches the ball.
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I can see that!
McFadden goes 15 carries for 75 yards
Bennett goes 10 carries for 30 yards
Bush is a decoy
September 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Norco, I want the Raiders in Oakland, and I want Al to hire a GM.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
True, LA would be a huge mistake. As is playing another 20 years at the Coliseum.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Oh and my point was yeah, some people are speaking up, but not most.
CORRECTION: I wa at the stadium the last time we beat the charger, I believe, at home.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Location is perfect due to bart!
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Yeah I would feel real safe taking the kids there with the cops to protect me. Wait, I mean…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
MR,
You are telling me that the average athlete would rather play in Oakland than in LA? Wow, I’ve heard athletes talk about wanting to play in LA, but I’ve never heard one say I want to play for the As or the Raiders because of the city of Oakland.
Maybe you are still exporting that great Oakland pot to Sactown?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
first posession we solider right down the titans throat for a TD
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hope so!
I see Reece getting the biggest play of the day, probably taking a screen pass 45 yards and Zach Miller getting at least 1 TD
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
B lot? there ya go lynn!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Bo, would want the Raiders to move to some suburb in the Northeast? Some place in Maryland, perhaps? Would that suit you? You and all your blue collar, tough Raider fans can meet up at the nearest strip mall and go for some Chilis, then finish the night off at Dave And Busters? B B B B B BAAAAD. Bad to the bone….
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Lol,..silly MR,..ok, Al hires a GM,..then what?…what you need to wish for, to add to your request,..Al hire a GM, and retire,…if he simply hires a person, calls him the gm,..meaningless,..wont change a thing dude…I personally dont want a GM. And like I said, my tailgate menu is of more importance to me then any front office crap.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I can see that!
McFadden goes 15 carries for 75 yards
Bennett goes 10 carries for 30 yards
Bush is a decoy
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I think DMAC will have more recieving yards than rushing. I doubt the Raiders will run for a 100 yards total this sunday as a group. I still think we have a shot at the game with all the dumpoffs and screens. Then go deep baby!
Marcel Reece will be the “secret weapon”
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
chargers wil be moving to LA, Raiders will be staying in the bay…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
MR,..sunday, Players…on Sunrise,..come on by!..whole bunch of us will be there…all day…huuuuge party.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bo….name blue collar area that has connection to Raiders like Oakland…..
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Kezar Stadium? lol
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
It is all moot because I doubt the City of LA would want to deal with Al Davis again….then again, when Al is gone….
…new GM, better product, new ownership…then something with LA might get done if the Chargers don’t beat us to it.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Frank Youell fireld?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Dakota….they wanna go to LA to phuck around and not focus abd get their acting careers off ground. And big name free agents have come to Oakland so your bs claim is shot down
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
No one has mentioned the effect the Raider image has had on Oakland. I believe it’s greater than the effect of Oakland on the Raider image.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Dakota, fair point. I told you why a lot of athletes like the bay area. You can mock it all you want to. The bottom line is that you don’t know ANYTHING bout Oakland. Nothing. Other than what you’ve been told by other rubes out in your neck of the cornfield about Oakland. I don’t know why you insist on talking about Oakland as if you know something about the place, but you keep doing it, and you keep revealing how ignorant and stupid you are. But don’t let me stop you.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Jason McCourty was a 6th rounder last year
Cortland Finnegan is only 5′10″ (shorter than JLH)
Darrius Heyward-Bey might have a big day!
September 7th, 2010 at 11:58 am
MR,..I have never lived in Oakland, but I know plenty about it,..certainly more then you…I dont have an issue with Oakland,..like it…I prefer San Jose, where I lived most my life,..but I left bay area,…probably leaving the state soon too,…time for a change,..Kaanapali is the destination.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Yeah Kezar what in the first few years then Frank Youell which is cool but Coliseum built for Raiders…..and a newly built stadium is what Amy Trask working hard on…….being in another city isnt an option
September 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Jason McCourty was a 6th rounder last year
Cortland Finnegan is only 5′10″ (shorter than JLH)
Darrius Heyward-Bey might have a big day!
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McCourty Looked good last year however, he cant hang with DHB if he plays as physical as he is capable of…
Second year player against second year player…
DHB should win this matchup…
September 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Thec07 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
chargers wil be moving to LA, Raiders will be staying in the bay…
………….the chargers will be forced out of L.A. BY gangstas ice cube and snoop dogg.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I doubt the Raiders will run for a 100 yards total this sunday as a group.
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here is a list of the Titans D-Linemen:
Jason Babin
Dave Ball
Tony Brown
Jacob Ford
Jovan Haye
William Hayes
Jason Jones
Sen’Derrick Marks
Derrick Morgan
you might ask yourself “Who ???”
they need Fat Albert back …
September 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Dakota….they wanna go to LA to phuck around and not focus abd get their acting careers off ground. And big name free agents have come to Oakland so your bs claim is shot down
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Who, Rich Gannon? Trace Armstrong? Old azz Romo? Kerry Collins?
lmao
I see a lot of old guys who signed here for a shot at the SB under Gruden, but beyond that, we pick up players with character problems, injury problems or players looking for a big payday they can’t get anywhere else.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Bo safe? Why isnt the coliseum safe? Tell me what families get harrassed by the locals…..Bo you are showing “it” with your comments…..please stop
September 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I never worry bout the team leaving again,..they will build a new stadium on current site,..but not in next 10 years or so…I actually dont want new place,..like it just the way it is.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Those of you suggesting the Raiders leave Oakland…and then recommend moving to Los Angeles. Why would you want to kill your credibility instantly by recommending moving to a city well noted as being the worst football city in the country?’
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Agreed. LA doesnt give a rats a$$ about football despite what they show on Entourage.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Brian, dont trip on Bo,..shes just one of the crybabies in here…dont stoop to that d-bags level.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Bo, would want the Raiders to move to some suburb in the Northeast?
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No, why?
I like the Raiders in Nocal (not in Marin/Napa). But Oakhole is about the worst place for a stadium within miles…today at least.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Brien, Dakota thinks players still want to sign with LA teams so that they can start a showbiz career. His star example is Lamaar Odom. He doesn’t have anything else because the last prominent athlete to sign to an LA team to help his showbiz career was probably Rick Fox.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Dakota….remember gruden stays telling stories of people wanting to play in Oakland…..again you stand corrected….was Hall old? Walker? yeah they sucked but still they came…..Moss as well. Hell even chad ocho said he would! stop it
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I’m expecting a high scoring game with the Titans …
Raiders win 35-31
Oakland’s offense will have a fine day, while the run defense proves to be much like last year. and Routt still sucks in coverage
September 7th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Bo,..if youre afraid, simply stay away…all good.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
But I think Rick Fox just wanted to be closer to West Hollywood..
September 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
And yes I have spent time in oakland and the rest of the bay area.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
What run D had a good game against the Titans last year?…that dude will likely get 175-200 yards sunday.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
they need Fat Albert back …
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I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Valid point Raider75. Something has to give. some call Sports the next bubble to pop.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone here ever bring wife/kids to the Coliseum? Skank GFs and other guys babies do not count…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Bo, you don’t want the team in Oakland, because it’s too “hood”. you don’t want the team in Napa, I’m presuming because Napa is just too soft for you and your hard core Raider brothers. So what gives? Stockton? I’m sure attendance rates will just soar there.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I’m expecting a high scoring game with the Titans …
Raiders win 35-31
Oakland’s offense will have a fine day, while the run defense proves to be much like last year. and Routt still sucks in coverage
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Give Routt a chance on the outside as a full time starter. He might change your opinion.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Bo that is BS…..you cant explain why Oakland is the worse……those “faces” intimidate you? You think little Bo gonna become a gangsta rapper? Oh wait you scared little Bo-ette gonna get turned out by the hood lol
September 7th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Dakota….remember gruden stays telling stories of people wanting to play in Oakland…..again you stand corrected….was Hall old? Walker? yeah they sucked but still they came…..Moss as well. Hell even chad ocho said he would! stop it
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I am talking free agents. Sure some old guys like Romo, Armstrong and Rice wanted to play in Oakland under Gruden…we were close to winning, but even then we didn’t sign any free agents in their prime. We traded for Hall, Moss and Seymour…they didn’t have much of a choice.
What Ocho said and what he did are two different things.
Sorry guys, I can’t believe that free agents wouldn’t be more inclined to sign with the Raiders if they played in LA.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Nascar is already experiencing the bubble pop.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Bo wants the Raiders in a place where there are no black people or yuppie wimps. I’m thinking Central America?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
What run D had a good game against the Titans last year?…that dude will likely get 175-200 yards sunday
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I think he get a 125 yards, all hard earned. He won’t have a run over 15-18 yards.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Bo skanks are everywhere so are other guys children….why apply that to oakland? People bring their kids all the time. Bo you are showing “it”…..your liberal support on politics cant even cover it up
September 7th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
titamns D is going to get lit up like a chritmas tree…with or without worth….
September 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“Faces”? Hold on now Flauce, I know how much crime goes on in Oakhole… it doesn’t make me a bigot.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
But of course if Bo is scared of the “hood”, he’s scared of brown people in Central America, too. So, let’s see. I dunno. Can anyone think of a place that isn’t “hood”, isn’t a wussified yuppie enclave like Napa, that Bo and his hard core Raider brethren can call home? I’m really trying to help him.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
*will
September 7th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
300+ yards passing o the titans….would be surpised if we did anything less….
September 7th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Dakota no u only say that because you dont like Oakland…..you have no proof of that nonsense you spitting. They are people in the world that dont like the access LA may offer. Ever think about that?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
“it”? LMAO. My choices are:
call Oakland a crime-free paradise or
can’t handle “diversity”
nice try
own up to the downsides of your own home town, B.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
300+ yards passing o the titans….would be surpised if we did anything less….
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It’s been a while since I could say this with confidence, but I can see it happening as well.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
And by the way, I have an aunt and uncle who live in San Carlos, so I have seen Oakland. I’ve been on the Bart, I’ve been to the coliseum to an As game. I am not going to claim to know the area well and I mean no disrespect to Oakland, but I have to believe the average male athlete would rather live and play ball in LA, and be a part of everything that comes with being in LA, and not just movies…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Can’t wait for the first home game. Hope we coime in on a wining streak.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
he’s scared of brown people in Central America, too.
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Where did you pull that out of? I’ve been there a few times, no probs. Keep up the lies, StrahanMan.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
An honest evaluation of the Raider O…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_off_season
Man, alot more rickety than I’d like.
“Fix the O line, save the Raiders…”
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Bo, you’re a Raider fan. Bad to the bone. Hells Angels. Why are you so afraid of the hood? Ask Brien where Oakland’s Hells Angels headquarters is.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
sec 109 lott d Raiders Blvd. first row
September 7th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
And by the way, I have an aunt and uncle who live in San Carlos, so I have seen Oakland. I’ve been on the Bart, I’ve been to the coliseum to an As game. I am not going to claim to know the area well and I mean no disrespect to Oakland, but I have to believe the average male athlete would rather live and play ball in LA, and be a part of everything that comes with being in LA, and not just movies…
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Ufck L.A.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Yes the Bauce does Flauce as he drinks his Sauce…..every city has rough areas. As a matter of fact where the 49ers play is worse than Oakland’s! But u only associate Oakland with “faces”
September 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Bo, you’re a Raider fan. Bad to the bone. Hells Angels. Why are you so afraid of the hood? Ask Brien where Oakland’s Hells Angels headquarters is.
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Ask the good Dr. Hunter S. knows where they are. Left a few of his teeth there…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Dakota no u only say that because you dont like Oakland…..you have no proof of that nonsense you spitting. They are people in the world that dont like the access LA may offer. Ever think about that?
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lol, yeah, I am sure the parents of athletes who want to play in LA probably don’t like it….but beyond that…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Dakota, maybe you’ve seen Oakland, from a distance. Maybe you’ve even driven through it. But your analysis of Oakland’s economic situation over the past decade, and the country’s, for that matter, is laughable. You have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s my point.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I am going to lays some coin on the raiders to upset the titans…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I think the Raiders would be awesome to see at a new stadium at the Naval Air Station, or in Pleasanton, or Martinez, or Dublin, or Woodland, or Daly City, or Gilroy, hell I don’t care really. I just wish it was a better experience than today’s version.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone here ever bring wife/kids to the Coliseum? Skank GFs and other guys babies do not count…
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Bo that’s a ridiculous comment, here’s why.
I bought the original PSL’S with four seats.
In 1998, my son who was eight and my daughter who was 5, went to all the games with mom and I.
During that time, many Raider Nation members would help with our backpacks, took pictures of the kids, especially my daughter who was a Raiderette, and always brought food or drinks to the kids in the section I was at.
I never felt threatned or worried. Yes, when my son was 12, there was a fight in the aisle, next to me and my son, we were never harmed sitting right there, the people in our section rushed up and stopped the fight, called security and was very protective of many in the section, as well as my kids.
My son during tailgate, tossed footballs with strangers in the parking lot, and during the Championship game, when Mettallica showed up, my son was grabbed by a member of the Nation and pulled up front to see. I was never worried.
There are drunks at all venues, including LA, SF, and many others. Oakland is unfairly given a bad rap for many reasons, and to long to continue with this comment.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
hellsbells Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Can’t wait for the first home game. Hope we coime in on a wining streak.
———————-win or lose this coming sunday one thing can’t happen: We cannot start the year with a heartbreaker loss (San Diego last year). It takes the winds out of peoples sails. If it is a hard fought battle between the 2 I can handle that, just don’t let me see the refs calling back apperent touchdowns.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
RMR not trolling today.
Impressive.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
later
September 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Yes the Bauce does Flauce as he drinks his Sauce…..every city has rough areas. As a matter of fact where the 49ers play is worse than Oakland’s! But u only associate Oakland with “faces”
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I associate Oakland with the unfortunate stories I hear, particularly those from friends who got jacked at a restaurant along with everyone else. Cops? An hour away…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
What would be even better is a Raider win, coupled with a charger loss…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
The Raiders moving to LA was the worst thing to happen to them. They went Hollywood. Even Ice Cube admits that. The Raiders are a blue collar team that need to be in a blue collar stadium.
Go to a Lakers game. They show up half way through the 2nd quarter wearing shades, punch on their blackberrys for a qtr and leave. Cmon, that not Raider Nation.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Kobe demanded a trade to LA.
Shaq signed in LA.
If the Lakers had cap room Lebron would be a Laker today.
The Raiders are just as big as the Lakers IMO, I think athletes would be greatly attracted to the combination of LA and the Raiders.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Bo….u really act like you are in danger at the games…..I WOULD BE MORE LIKELY for problems that you in East Oakland……there are downsides everywhere. Like you snooty rich area….no diversity and high rate of suicide and kids like in movie “Traffic”
September 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Some people act like LA dont have any bad parts. There are some neighborhoods in LA that have more murders per year then Oakland. Seriously
September 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I’ve been to several Raiders-Broncos games in Denver and there was a lot of violence in the stadium….then again, it was mostly from the Raiders’ fans in attendance, but still….
September 7th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Good for you Dell. I am not surprised by your story, and I asked my question expecting an answer like yours.
As for my hesitation, it would be the experience before and after the game.
And BTW, why was my question a “ridiculous comment”? It was just a question…you assumed I was implying more than I was.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
MR,..me and brian have talked about this before,..you and your obsession with making sure all of us know you have a thing about hating whitey,..why is that?…you one of those white guys that is ashamed to be white?…see a therapist bro,..you have real probs,..and you know what?…black folks, brown, whatever, they arent impressed with you for that,…they think your weak.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
born and raised in East Bay.
Had season tickets on the 50 lower level growing up in the 60’s.
Hell no way I could afford season tickets now.
I blame the agents.
They drive salaries up for higher commissions and destroy the league from within.
At some point it has to break.
They don’t care.
Just want to get theirs while it’s there to be got.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Dakota you talking NBA…..LA isnt a football city and Eric Dickerson said so himself. LA doesnt deserve a team
September 7th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Raider Dell Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone here ever bring wife/kids to the Coliseum? Skank GFs and other guys babies do not count…
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I never felt threatned or worried. Yes, when my son was 12, there was a fight in the aisle, next to me and my son, we were never harmed sitting right there, the people in our section rushed up and stopped the fight, called security and was very protective of many in the section, as well as my kids.
That fight was RMR and RICHOCHET
September 7th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Bo….u really act like you are in danger at the games…..I WOULD BE MORE LIKELY for problems that you in East Oakland……there are downsides everywhere. Like you snooty rich area….no diversity and high rate of suicide and kids like in movie “Traffic”
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Actually, YOU need to get out more Bri3n. Lots of all types of people where I live, and very little tension. See a few places instead of watching LA movies …they ain’t got it right at all.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Dakota….most agree they belong in Oakland even the LA people that love them to death! Stop this crap
September 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
I’ll be going to the Cardnals game.
Guarantee you more Cardinals fans will start more fights and get thrown out than Raider fans.
And that’s with biased security.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Bo i do get out aand have been out….try again……you stay in suburban Chicago about 45 minutes away right?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
And BTW, why was my question a “ridiculous comment”? It was just a question…you assumed I was implying more than I was.
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Bo
The word “ridiculous’ was a word that needed to be used to start my comment. If you want to split hairs on the word, I could have used others. I chose that word to explain to you, how far your comment was regarding the safety at the Coliseum.
Bo, don’t get hung up on the word “ridiculous” go back and read your comment, and tell me why I shouldn’t have used “ridiculous”.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Time for that drive to work…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Hell, even I agree they “belong” in Oakland, but Oakland isn’t what it used to be and neither is the stadium experience. Start over at the navy base. Fk the mythbuster biotches…
September 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Where United Center at? Comiskey? Aint Solider Field by downtown…..oh i get it stadiums and arenas need to be way out in the burbs……i got ya. Less fortunate shouldnt be able to attend games
September 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
WE HAVE A PLATHERA OF OPINIONS TODAY
September 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
BSJ, my wife attends the games with me.
Waiting for BART at the SF civic center station seems to upset a few niner fans along the way, but we still have never felt threatened.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo i go to games…dell goes to game….lynn….raiderlen….mista….norco….dirt racc…drexl….hwnrdr we all love stadium expereince…..now you reach buddy.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Anyways ppl…..alot of stuff to do before busy ass wekkend…..gotta run….JUST WIN
September 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Dakota you talking NBA…..LA isnt a football city and Eric Dickerson said so himself. LA doesnt deserve a team
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LA is more of a college football town than NFL town, but even when the Raiders were sharing the market with the Rams they were still pulling 40-50k fans, despite playing in LAMC. When was the last time the Oakland Raiders pulled in that many fans?
Get the Raiders a new stadium, let them be the only team in the market, and boom…they will pull a ton of fans, and the team will attract better quality players.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I remember when we went to games in the 60’s my old man would park under this overpass near the Coliseum.
He used to always say that we had to be careful in that area when we were walking to the game.
Nothing ever happened though.
Nobody ever fought during games.
People just stacked their paper beer buckets like a status symbol.
Stacks of empty paper beer buckets near the roudiest fans.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Bo, don’t get hung up on the word “ridiculous” go back and read your comment, and tell me why I shouldn’t have used “ridiculous”.
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I already did. I was asking about families because I think almost all of these oakland defenders are single or go to games with other guys, not wife/kids. I think the whole experience – from hotel, to eating, shopping, game, food, bathrooms, etc – could be better suited to a familty trip.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Where United Center at? Comiskey? Aint Solider Field by downtown…..oh i get it stadiums and arenas need to be way out in the burbs……i got ya. Less fortunate shouldnt be able to attend games
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Yep been to many games in Chitown and Oakland. World of difference. Not snooty at all, but a lot more pleasant, sry.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
And Soldier Field is RIGHT downtown. United Center on the south side. No suburban arenas here, sry.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Bo,..stop your snivlin…if youre afraid to attend games,…listen to the game on the radio.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
In fact if any of you ever saw a game in Chitown you would know what an awesome, downtown NFL game can be like. Hotels, bars, park, lake, music, all in the same place. Look up, see the skyline.
Still, fk the Bears.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Bo,..stop your snivlin…if youre afraid to attend games,…listen to the game on the radio.
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Bob, I have attended maybe 15 games in Oakland and none in LA even though I lived there. No fears.
And they don’t have them on the radio in ILLINOIS. NFL Ticket for me thx.
Now put down that next pill…you’re there already bro.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I just hope that the NFL will not punish the Raiders when they move back to LA by stripping them of their name and history, ala the Cleveland Browns.
I don’t believe even people in Oakland would want that….it would still be better to have the Raiders in LA than have no Raiders at all right?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Raiders should move too hot springs south dakota
September 7th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
By Pete Prisco
Senior Writer
We know there will be several new playoff teams in the NFL in 2010. That’s the way of the league. There have been five new ones in each of the past 14 seasons.
Picking the new ones out is the tough part.
In years past, I’ve always tried to hit on a few. I was on the Arizona Cardinals a few years ago, so when they made the Super Bowl, even though I didn’t go that far, it made me look good.
In 2009, I picked the Cincinnati Bengals to win the AFC North, leading to a slew of nasty words from Pittsburgh. The Bengals won the division by sweeping all six of their division games, again making me look good.
That isn’t to say I get them all right. You all know better, judging by how much you sear me daily in your comments and e-mails.
So who is this season’s team to watch?
Dare I say the Oakland Raiders? OK, so you think I’m nuttier than Al Davis right now. But I really believe the Raiders can make a playoff push.
The addition of Jason Campbell is bigger for this team than JaMarcus Russell’s stomach was for his uniform. Campbell had to deal with constant change in Washington and never got a chance to show what he can really do. Now that he’s with underrated offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, look for Campbell to excel.
There is talent at a lot of other spots. Scan the roster. The Raiders have one of the best cover corners in Nnamdi Asomugha, two very good defensive linemen in Richard Seymour and rejuvenated Tommy Kelly and unsung rising players like safety Tyvon Branch and pass rusher Matt Shaughnessy.
The offense has tight end Zach Miller and running backs Michael Bush and Darren McFadden — watch them this season — to go with Campbell. If the offensive line, which will start a rookie at center in Jared Veldheer, can come together, the Raiders might be really good.
I’m still not sure about coach Tom Cable, but the players seem to respond to him. Is he a great X’s and O’s guy? We don’t know, but if his assistants are good — Jackson is for sure — it doesn’t really matter.
The Raiders are higher in my first batch of CBS Sports.com Power Rankings than most would expect, checking in at No. 17. That’s because I really do think they have a chance to be a playoff team, but I can’t really start them any higher for now.
And, no, I am not wearing a white sweatsuit as I write this.
As for the top of the rankings, the Indianapolis Colts will open in the No. 1 spot, even though they were the Super loser. Hey, Vegas thinks they’re the best team. Why wouldn’t I?
The rest of the 10 is filled with familiar teams, although some, like the Atlanta Falcons, might be higher than you would expect.
If you’re shocked that the New York Jets aren’t in the top 10, then you haven’t been paying attention to me all summer. The Jets are more overhyped than Lady Gaga.
Yes, coach Rex Ryan and his attitude are fun. And they should be good on defense. I just don’t think Mark Sanchez is ready to take the next step. Even with Darrelle Revis signed to a long-term deal, it won’t matter.
So let me get this straight. I like the Raiders and Jason Campbell but not the Jets and Mark Sanchez. For now, I have the Jets ahead of the Raiders, but by season’s end, that won’t be the case.
So anybody know where I can get sized up for a white sweat suit?
17 Raiders · Trends –
Don’t laugh. I meant what I said. I think this team is much improved. They will push for a playoff berth. Really.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Youre far enough away Bo,..you should feel safe…you sound liek a scared little girl man,…the sunday ticket was put together for guys like you,..so stay home…relax.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Give Routt a chance on the outside as a full time starter. He might change your opinion.
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Routt is basically the starter by default. CJ37 got lit up like a Christmas tree in the last preseason game playing with a bum hammy
he’s entering his 6th season in the NFL and he’s had a few chances. he got to compete with Fabian Washington – and lost. He had 3 months in the offseason to prove his worth before the team traded for DeAngelo Hall. He had the chance to compete with CJ37 the last 2 years (post Hall) and looked awful.
do most corners peak at age 27?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Raiders should move too hot springs south dakota
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they’d sell the same # of seats!
September 7th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
On the flipside, The DirecTV NFL Package Benefits because those fans that want to watch a raider game are forced to buy it. Is there ever any GOOD news these days?
September 7th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I just hope that the NFL will not punish the Raiders when they move back to LA by stripping them of their name and history, ala the Cleveland Browns.
I don’t believe even people in Oakland would want that….it would still be better to have the Raiders in LA than have no Raiders at all right?
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I dont see Al letting that happen.
September 7th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Oakland Raiders would be renamed the Hot Springs Hogs!
then Darren McFadden would be nicknamed DM2K
2000 rushing yards and 750 receiving yards
September 7th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
trade Nick Miller for Mammoth artifacts!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
I think the Raiders could sell out the local stadium fo sho! At least against the Broncos….
September 7th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Raiders might give up 200 yards rushing to the South Dakota State Jackrabbits!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Mark David Chapman denied parole once again….where is the forgiveness?
September 7th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Yeah Baby! Prisco making a solid batch of Kool-Aid for us. Thanks for the article, Dakota.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Adam Vinatieri played for the South Dakota State Jackrabbits!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Rockstar,
South Dakota State plays at Nebraska on Sept 25th…could get ugly! lol
September 7th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Rockstar,
South Dakota State plays at Nebraska on Sept 25th…could get ugly! lol
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And – *gag* – I gotta pull for the Big Ten.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I think the Raiders would be awesome to see at a new stadium at the Naval Air Station, or in Pleasanton, or Martinez, or Dublin, or Woodland, or Daly City, or Gilroy, hell I don’t care really. I just wish it was a better experience than today’s version.
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How about the peninsula? They can change their uniforms to red and start calling themselves the 49ers, too. Is that what you want?
September 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Bo, are you crazy? They are not in the Big 10 this year!
F NEBRASKA!!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I have never, ever heard a Raider fan suggest the Raiders moving to Daly City. Bo, you are the first. Daly City is hard core Niner country, too. I’m now wondering if you’re even a Raider fan. What kind of Raider fan wants the team in Daly City, or Woodland? lol.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Routt is basically the starter by default. CJ37 got lit up like a Christmas tree in the last preseason game playing with a bum hammy
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LOL!
Awww man, this is too funny.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Parcells just gave day to day operations of the Phins to Jeff Ireland…any chance he will come to Oakland to help turn this mess around?
lol
September 7th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
al how about some news anything swayze waters too marry lady gaga anything!!!!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
MR,..me and brian have talked about this before,..you and your obsession with making sure all of us know you have a thing about hating whitey,..why is that?…you one of those white guys that is ashamed to be white?…see a therapist bro,..you have real probs,..and you know what?…black folks, brown, whatever, they arent impressed with you for that,…they think your weak.
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Copy and paste that, and send it to the nearest skin head recruiter. They’ll probably promote you to one of their top levels right away.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
My gut hatred of the Cornholers eased a bit when they fired the dumbest coach in America.
But for you, I will root for the SDS Ostriches.
Kelly and the Domers looked pretty average Saturday, whereas Meeeechigan looked solid. 390+ yards by the QB! Thats RichRod football!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Get the Raiders a new stadium, let them be the only team in the market, and boom…they will pull a ton of fans, and the team will attract better quality players.
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Can replace the LA Convention center!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Denard needs a haircut tho.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Never take a lady to a Raider game. And my son will be a teenager b4 he gets to his first game.
Its okay. Disneyland is for the kids.
The Coli on gameday is for me and my buds.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
any chance he will come to Oakland to help turn this mess around?
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What mess?
September 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Kobe demanded a trade to LA.
Shaq signed in LA.
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They hardly even do showbiz. Shaq in a couple of moronic movies. His only good movie was 15 years ago in that movie that mocks UCLA, starring Nolte. Blue Chips?
What does Kobe do in showbiz? He doesn’t even rap anymore.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
i think the titans only hope for the game is to attack veldheer early and make the offensive line penalty prone, if jv and the rest of the guys can withstand that, we win easily.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Trade DMAC for Randy Moss!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# J Hill Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
any chance he will come to Oakland to help turn this mess around?
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What mess?
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LOL. You’re right. We’re coming off a playoff year…
September 7th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
MR,
Why are you fixating on showbiz? Must be the screenwriter in you or something…
Athletes want to be in LA because of the vast market and the social life…not because of the movie deals. Plus they don’t have to deal with a harsh media like in NY. Really, if you were a young rich professional athlete you wouldn’t want to be in LA? You’d rather be in Oakland?
September 7th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
# J Hill Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
any chance he will come to Oakland to help turn this mess around?
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What mess?
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Okay Edward Smith….no problem here, don’t mind the water!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Really, if you were a young rich professional athlete you wouldn’t want to be in LA? You’d rather be in Oakland?
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For MR its West Hollywood vs. Castro
September 7th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
i wouldn’t want parcell’s anymore, guy always ditiching his team before the jobs done
September 7th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
It would be fun to see Al hire Parcells, then trade him away ilke Gruden lol.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Okay Edward Smith
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Who ?????
September 7th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
J Hill Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Okay Edward Smith
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Who ?????
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Captain, RMS Titanic….
September 7th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Coaching hot seats: Smith, Fox, Mangini, Del Rio, Cable and Morris
By The Associated Press (CP) – 1 hour ago
It might not be a wise choice for several NFL coaches to sit down this season. Their seats are going to be awfully hot.
Winning records are advised for John Fox, Jack Del Rio, Eric Mangini, Tom Cable, Raheem Morris and Lovie Smith, or else their tenures in charge could end in early January — if not sooner.
Fox doesn’t even have a contract after 2010, even though his Panthers come off an 8-8 season and he’s taken them to one Super Bowl and two NFC championship games in his eight seasons in Carolina. Mangini can look over his shoulder and see Browns president Mike Holmgren, one of the best coaches of the last 20 years, running things in Cleveland. Cable works for the unpredictable Al Davis in Oakland.
Here’s a six-pack of coaches feeling the heat.
— John Fox, Carolina: When the Panthers opted to let Fox coach out his contract, it became apparent the franchise is looking to make a move if 2010 is not a memorable year. Injuries have plagued the Panthers in recent seasons, and there is plenty of transition, particularly on defence. So Fox easily could be gone in January, but don’t fret: Fox will get snapped up quickly.
— Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville: Three years ago, this was a team on the rise. Now, the Jaguars can’t get people into the stadium, struggle late in games and appear to be far behind the other AFC South teams.
— Eric Mangini, Cleveland: The Browns won their final four games, long after they had become irrelevant in the AFC standings, then Mangini persuaded Holmgren to give him another chance. The roster doesn’t look any stronger after a 5-11 season, and unless Mangini shows some versatility in demeanour and strategy, his stay in Cleveland could end with another firing.
— Tom Cable, Oakland: Longevity as Raiders coach is a myth if your name isn’t Madden or Flores. At least Cable doesn’t have any personal issues cluttering the headlines this year. But with Davis pegging new quarterback Jason Campbell as another Jim Plunkett, Cable needs a bunch of victories. The Raiders haven’t won more than five games in a season since 2002.
— Raheem Morris, Tampa Bay: A team in flux on both sides of the ball, and Morris fired both his co-ordinators in 2009. The Bucs used a one-sentence statement to say he would return for a second season. If Tampa Bay finishes in the cellar again, the 34-year-old Morris likely won’t get a third year.
— Lovie Smith, Chicago: The Bears have not made the playoffs since losing the Super Bowl after the 2006 season. Trading for QB Jay Cutler was supposed to juice the offence, but it didn’t work. Smith’s forte is defence, but the Bears allowed 375 points a year ago.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Fat Albert on the trade block per ESPN
September 7th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Tom Cable:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_01nIg59Y3T4/SQEPVHmxGbI/AAAAAAAABh0/vhh9X6JVTA0/s400/TomCable.jpg
September 7th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Captain, RMS Titanic….
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Is there an iceberg lurking that I’m not seeing?
Could you please elaborate?
Seems like sunny skies to me. Get the Raiders near Staples and now we’re talking paradise!
September 7th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
You got a prediction for Saturday afternoon, O’Dakota?
September 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dnwb_hyOhyc/SorA6Y7dR5I/AAAAAAAAAfY/TAF2tYwbaJ4/s400/cable.jpg
I coach the Oakland Raiders, I make a million dollars a year and I have a strong pimp hand
September 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
J Hill Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Captain, RMS Titanic….
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Is there an iceberg lurking that I’m not seeing?
Could you please elaborate?
Seems like sunny skies to me. Get the Raiders near Staples and now we’re talking paradise!
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true things seem to be going well right now…the water is calm, the night is clear, the wine is flowing…same conditions as April 14th, 1912….and September 8th, 2008…..
September 7th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
You got a prediction for Saturday afternoon, O’Dakota?
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28-21 ND beats Mich
September 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Dakota
“HELLS BELLS”
September 7th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dnwb_hyOhyc/SorA6Y7dR5I/AAAAAAAAAfY/TAF2tYwbaJ4/s400/cable.jpg
I coach the Oakland Raiders, I make a million dollars a year and I have a strong pimp hand
more like:
I am the Timeout Coordinator of the Oakland Raiders, I am the lowest paid alleged HC in the NFL and my strong pimp hand may land me in jail someday….
September 7th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
The smartest team we’ve fielded in 7 years, since the veterans (Ganno, Rice, Romo, Kennedy, etc.) retired and left a leadership void unfilled until now.
How many of us will be there to see it?
Google “Raiders football IQ” and good articles appear talking SMART RAIDERS FOOTBALL. Even Big Al is getting good ink for his “smart offseason decisions.”
Here’s our 2010 Raiders ranked on Football IQ…
http://raidergirls.com/raiders_blog/raiders-get-smart-football-iq/
Interesting to note, all of our “smart leaders” are on the defensive side of the ball in Asomugha,Seymour, and McClain. We need Campbell to fill the offensive void.
We’ve always drafted the speed and brawn, now were picking up some brains too. raiderG
September 7th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Hells Bells indeed Dell.
September 7th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Dakota
Thanks.
September 7th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Trade DMAC for a Raidergirl!
September 7th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
BSPN radio reports 11 games face opening day blackouts, inluding 3 home teams from the 2010 playoffs
September 7th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Are you all friggin kiddin me? You blame blackouts on the inability to win games for 7 years when before that we were in a SB?
You all are the definition of fare weather fans. There’s at least 9 teams that will have a worse record than we will and I bet they sellout more games. From now on none of you guys get any credit if you can’t tell me what game your going to.
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Wow.
Gosh…whatever will we do?
September 7th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Norco, I want the Raiders in Oakland, and I want Al to hire a GM.
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Why would it even matter to you?
Mom isn’t going to spring for ticket money, so Oakland, Siberia, or across the street, you can only wonder what it’s like to attend.
September 7th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Raiders LB Thomas Howard donated 31 pairs of football cleats to the San Francisco Brown Bombers Pee Wee squad…
September 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# neilb Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Good luck against Iceland LMN!
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thanks, yup, we took revenge of the ashclouds..
September 7th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
—”Browns waived ILB David Veikune. A pass-rushing defensive end at Hawaii, Veikune never found a home in Cleveland with coach Eric Mangini shuffling him between inside and outside linebacker over the past year. Veikune was one of three second-round picks for the Browns last season. The other two will enter the 2010 season as the starting wide receivers”—
WHaaaat!?!? well no surprise Rob Ryan cant figure out to use a DE as a LB LOL, well he sure will get a new home, as I remeber it all here was very keen on him since he did a great job in the senior bowl…
September 7th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Oakland has been televised only 44 times in 120 regular-season home games since returning to Oakland in 1995, and there’s a chance they’ll be 44-for-128 when the season ends.
September 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
LMN
Really enjoyed Copenhagen. Probably the finest women as a whole I’ve ever seen.
The Karel Club
Copenhagen Jazz House
The Nasa Club stand out.
Went up to Elsinore as well.
September 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
KK…
great! Im glad it was worth it, the weather was sh!tty during that week as far as I remember..
September 7th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
LMN it was warm/hot……didn’t get dark until about 11pm……Stayed at the Marriot down on the water near Tivoli……good food…..the babes……..OMG.
September 7th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Quarterback Matt Leinart has officially joined the Houston Texans.
The former Heisman Trophy signed a one-year contract Tuesday. He was cut by the Arizona Cardinals on Saturday and agreed to terms with the Texans earlier this week.
The 27-year-old Leinart will be the No. 3 quarterback on the Texans behind Matt Schaub and Dan Orlovsky.
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Meanwhile, Michael Huff is the starting FS for the Oakland Raiders … LOL!
Art Shell was right. Art Shell was a stud. his folly was hiring Tom Walsh, Jackie Slater & Irv Eatman
if he had Jackson running the offense & Cable coaching the O-Line this team would have been 8-8 or better in 2006
September 7th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
his folly was *AL DAVIS* hiring Tom Walsh, Jackie Slater & Irv Eatman
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sorry – typo
September 7th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk, later gents
September 7th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Report: Reggie Bush to Have Heisman Trophy Stripped
Reggie Bush, whose NCAA violations while a running back at the University of Southern California were at the root of heavy sanctions against his alma mater, will reportedly have his Heisman Trophy stripped by month’s end.
The Heisman Trophy Trust is close to concluding its investigation that has led to the same conclusions as the inquiry by the NCAA,Yahoo! Sports reported on Monday. Bush, now a running back for the New Orleans Saints, would be the first player stripped of college football’s most prestigious trophy in the 75-year history of the award.
Bush met with Heisman officials last month in a New York law office, according to Yahoo! Sports. Instead of passing the trophy along to the 2005 runner-up Vince Young, the former University of Texas quarterback who now plays for the Tennessee Titans, the Heisman Trust will likely leave that season vacant, according to the website.
Bob Whalen, the executive director of the Heisman Trophy Trust, told a producer for the “Dan Patrick Show,” however, that Yahoo! Sports’ report was premature.
“Yahoo! Sports claiming Heisman Trust has reached a decision is completely false,” Whalen said. “The Heisman Trophy Trust has made no decision regarding the Reggie Bush matter.”
The NCAA ruled in June that Bush committed several violations while a member of the Trojans, including receiving gifts, cash and other benefits. He was retroactively ruled ineligible for part of the 2004 season and all of the 2005 — the year he won the Heisman.
September 7th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Could Veldheer face Haynseworth opening day?!!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
Yikes man. Honestly, when motivated the big man can play.
He might have a chip and want to show what he COULD have done in D.C. just to cheese Shanrat.
Hope ESPN is full of it…
September 7th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I wonder if Leinart took any money from USC boosters?
September 7th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
The Cincinnati Bengals have decided will head into Sunday’s game at New England without an official fullback blocking for lead rusher Cedric Benson. Instead of having a prototypical blocker, the Bengals will split the role among their tight ends Reggie Kelly, Daniel Coates, and first round draft pick Jermaine Gresham and back-up linebacker Dan Skulta.
It isn’t uncommon for teams that rely heavily on passing offenses to forego hiring a fullback, but clubs that favor rushing usually have at least one on their active roster.
“I think we still have the mindset that we’re a running football team because of the division we’re in,” said Palmer. “I’m not really sure how [fullback] is going to pan out but the good thing is that Dan has started the season at fullback, he’s played fullback in tight end sets, Reggie has played tight end and fullback, so we may not have a pure fullback guy that ‘that is all he plays’ but we’ve got guys who are confident and have done it before and guys who enjoy doing it.”
Read more: http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/bengals-will-go-without-a-fullback/#ixzz0yt61ltne
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Hmmm.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Matt Leinart’s family was wealthy he actually got in trouble for having people stay with him rent free. I’m pretty certain. I won’t swear to it.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Also, the whole reason he didn’t leave college early after the Heisman year, was more or less because his family didn’t need the money. He probably would have been a Raider too. So, he helped us from drafting another bust.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
My point Ghost, is that money has been paid to top college players since Adam & Eve.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
KK
Kids taking money from boosters is an everyday occurance, that stuff is so widespread it’s ridiculous. Someone blew a whistle on USC to bring them back to earth. It’s called competition for So. California athletes and UCLA was getting waxed so not too hard to figure out who snitched.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Great post KK!!
September 7th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Weel at some point Veldie was going to have meet the Bear. So let’s see what he’s got it’s too late to get sheepish now.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Let’s be honest. In high school the football players and baskeball players are coddled and helped along. I’m sure it gets much worse in college.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
LMN it was warm/hot……didn’t get dark until about 11pm……Stayed at the Marriot down on the water near Tivoli……good food…..the babes……..OMG.
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Im glad you had a great time here…
September 7th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
We season ticket holders get scammed with pre-season every year. (Which, by the way, I’m ALL for the 18-game season if it means getting rid of two weeks of practice games.)
But what may to the straw for me was paying $33 for the “honor” of parking there. In this depression, I really have a hard time justifying the expense for a faulty product.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Why would it even matter to you?
Mom isn’t going to spring for ticket money, so Oakland, Siberia, or across the street, you can only wonder what it’s like to attend.
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Oh, anybody who doesn’t lie about owning their own business must live with their mom?
September 7th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
any sign of Mr BrownEye today?
September 7th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
MR,
Why are you fixating on showbiz? Must be the screenwriter in you or something…
Athletes want to be in LA because of the vast market and the social life…not because of the movie deals. Plus they don’t have to deal with a harsh media like in NY. Really, if you were a young rich professional athlete you wouldn’t want to be in LA? You’d rather be in Oakland?
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When are you going to quit?
With every single comment on this topic, you reveal yourself to be even further out of the loop as to how things are out here.
Just what open market are you referring to if you’re not talking about showbiz? What else is LA known for? Did Lamar Odom and Rick Fox come to LA to surf? Did they come here for the snowboarding?
If any player wanted to go anywhere for the social life they’d pick Miami or NY over Los Angeles in A HEARTBEAT. The media’s easier on athletes in Los Angeles? Are you nuts? Run that by Manny Ramirez, or even your hero Kobe for that matter. Ever heard of TMZ? Where did you think they’re based, St. Louis?
And Dakota, I’m telling you again, you wouldn’t understand why an athlete would rather be in the bay than be in Los Angeles, especially athletes who happen to not be white, middle American bible thumpers. Bay area is just more tolerant of all cultures. They let you breathe in the bay, and a lot of athletes would certainly rather play for Golden State than the Clippers for that reason. Obviously that’s not the case with the Lakers because with the Lakers they’d have a better chance at a ring. That’s common sense. But it’s for the championship, not because they want to be in LA.
you’re the one who might as well sign up for film school, because you’re the one who still thinks LA is like the Randy Newman song.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
I don’t have a bia one war or another towards LA or Oakland. I would still support the Raiders even if they were in Tijuana.
With that being said though, Oakland just isn’t cutting it. The stadium is a hole, the city is a hole, and LA is certainly more attractive. Matter of time before they move back…… Just my thoughts.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
September 7th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
On the Monday Night in 1987 that Bo Jackson ran for 221 yards in a 37-14 rout of Seattle, the Raiders set a club record by amassing 356 yards on the ground in the game.
source: desk calendar.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
On December 24, 1977: The Raiders beat the Colts 37-31 in the “Ghost To The Post” divisional playoff. Tight End Dave Casper (”The Ghost”) caught a long pass to set up the tying field goal late in regulation, then had a 10-yard touchdown gram in overtime.
source: desk calendar.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
cbs sports.com just released power rankings….Raiders are#17!!
September 7th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Vic Carrucci of Nfl network has us beating the Titans week one! Finally some respect!
September 7th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
LA County has already said they will not deal with the Raiders, don’t want them, why? Al Davis.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
NFL STADIUM RANKINGS 23. Oakland Raiders, Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum
FANFARE Score: 25
What we liked: The Atmosphere—When I walked out of the corridor into the stadium proper, it was half-full and shining in the bright California sun. It was a sight, and a feeling I will never forget. The whole atmosphere, from the warmups to the end of the game, was fantastic. This stadium has so much history, you can almost feel it.Al Davis has done a fantastic job here.
What we didn’t like: The Neighborhood—The only downside was the food was quite limited, the drinks were very over priced ($8 for a beer), and there were no real bars or facilities outside the stadium.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
The weather the women (gorgeous in NOCAL don’t get me wrong, but you can at least agree more groupies in LA) and the nightlife are better in LA than the bay. Do you think out of state recruits don’t factor in the southern california lifestyle when choosing between USC and other top schools? However, I think it’s great to have the Raiders play where they originated regardless of attendance and when the Raiders start winning the fans will come. The better business move however would be to play in an LA market starving for a football team. Ultimately, whoever gives Al the best deal will host the Raiders
September 7th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
KK let the Raiders start winning I gaurantee that highbrow stuff changes. If the Raiders were to go to the SB LA would come begging.
Even now NFL Franchises are at a premium except in Oakland, Cincinati gt a brnd spanking new stadium. So did Tampa. For sme reason the Bay area sucks for sports teams it’s not just Al Davis the 49ers (jewel of a Franchise) can’t get a stadium in SF. Go figure!!
September 7th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
“The addition of Jason Campbell is bigger for this team than JaMarcus Russell’s stomach was for his uniform…”
LMAO!!!! This guy wins journalist of the year for that line!
September 7th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
DMAC vs CJohnson, think DMAC doesn’t want to prove he was the better draft choice?
September 7th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
The reason those games in 2000 were blacked out was solely based on the requirement of PSLs to buy season tickets. PSLs were a huge mistake and the attendance and fan base has never recovered.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Ultimately, whoever gives Al the best deal will host the Raiders
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Nobody is offering Al Davis anything.
September 7th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
If she wants to dance and drink all night well there’s no one that can stop her.
She’s going til the house lights come up or her stomach spills onto the floor.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
KK let the Raiders start winning I gaurantee that highbrow stuff changes. If the Raiders were to go to the SB LA would come begging.
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No municipality is going to tie up Taxpayer money with that loon, Al Davis. sorry.
Under modern management, an entirely different story.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Aw…is the fat old man still crying?….what is it today old kell?…what has ya snivlin today?…dont worry loser, catch the games on the radio…all good….however, hes still a billionaire with a private jet,..youre old, ugly, fat, unemployed, broke…hmm, no I cant see at all why youre insanely jealous of him…sucks to be you,..(obvious from the pic you posted of yourself here)
September 7th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
DMAC vs CJohnson, think DMAC doesn’t want to prove he was the better draft choice?
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DMAC has no chance at even making anyone think he was better draft choice… he will NEVER be a 2000 yd back. I am rooting for him to have a long and illustrious career with us but 2000yds aint ever happening!
September 7th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
If LA were “dying for football” they’d have it. It’s the 2nd largest market in the country.
September 7th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
We want football (nfl) here in L.A.!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Leggo
September 7th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
“Time to dump Oakland once again and get back to LA. They may still not sell out games, but at least in LA you can attract decent free agents by using the glamour of the city…what is the selling point of Oakland? That players can live in San Francisco?”
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Well said. That kind of attendance is ridiculous and as the article stated this IS NOT just because the Raiders have been so bad lately. They couldn’t even seel out during the Gruden years. Let’s face it: Oakland cannot support an NFL franchise PERIOD! There are alot of cities that would welome the Raiders with open arms and love the Silver and Black. Makes sense to go BACK to LA.
Why the hell should Al Davis keep ‘em in Oakland? Oakland obviously doesn’t even want ‘em here or even care. Sure, there’s a few fans in the “black hole” but that doesn’t cut it. This is a business and the fans in Oakland don’t even care so why stay here?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
I say the above and yet I actually love the Coliseum. When u think of it, it is really a legendary stadium with many GREAT moments; ‘Sea of Hands’, all the AFC Championships held there, and you can’t hear that NFL Films music from the days of John Facenda and not picture and feel the crisp feeling in the air at dusk as the sun sets at the Coliseum after the Raiders pulled out another victory led by Stabler and the boys. Sooooo many great football memories have been created at that stadium. Many NOT so good I’d rather forget, but all that being said, Oakland cannot support this team; or WILL NOT.
At least the LA Raiders were not a complete embarrassment, setting NFL records for losing. I love the Raiders, but I am soooo sick and tired of being the NFL’s laughingstock. I just wanna see something change; for the better and if it means moving to LA then so be it. The people of Oakland might care…a little bit, but it’s not enough.
September 7th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
The TV blackout rule is, and always has been, counter-productive. It was an ill-conceived method of convincing fans to buy tickets instead of watching the game on TV. This ill-conceived plan is also as ill-conceived plan as the NFL Network’s inception. The NFL has an excellent product to sell, but they need to make people WANT to spend the money, not make them spend the money and then be disappointed. When a team is viewed on TV, it builds a fan base. While watching a game on TV is fun, it isn’t as much fun as actually going to a game. People build-up to the point where they want to pay to go to a game. When the local team always has blackouts, fans will disappear. Add to this some losing seasons and you have a recipe for disaster. If the blackout rule were done away with, people would be able to watch and follow the Raiders all season long, not just their away games. This will build a new fan base and eventually end up with people wishing to go to games. With a larger fan base, it will be harder and harder to find available tickets to the point the stadium will be sold out by season ticket holders alone.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:26 am
As to # 434- EXACTLY! 100 % SPOT ON!
Case in point-The Chicago Blackhawks. For decades you could NEVER see a Blackhawk home game on TV…even if it were sold out and the fan base dwindled. Arthur Wirtz (previous owner) died, his son took over and decided to broadcast the home games and voila…a franchise is revived. Yes, it did help that the Hawks started winning, but you alienate a fan base when they can’t see their team, or if you make it difficult to do so. The blackout rule IS counter productive.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:14 am
I’ll be at the Rams ganme so I won’t have to worry about the blackout! Only thing that pisses me off is ticketmaster wouldn’t let me hget my usual tickets in section 209! kept sending me to Mt. Davis, so I just went cheap. Screw em!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:27 am
#287 – Foothill Blvd! Party there couple times a year. Never have any problems…
September 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
obviously with a name like r8r1973 you can figure that I was born in 73.. . so I am only guessing that in the 70’s it was more likely that people were paid salaries than now. The reason I am saying this is because with a blackout deadline of Thursday at 1pm. . . and an economy that creates a wait and see if I have the money for a ticket when I get my check scenario. .. .who the heck can make it to the ticket line or internet by 1pm if they are getting paid on Thursday or Friday? Not sure about most jobs, but when I am at work I have to stay there until my job, or my shift is over. I can’t tell my boss I have to go home so I can buy a Raider ticket. Just an observation as to why blackouts may be occurring. Maybe this can be something looked into by the NFL
September 8th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
just wanted to clarify that the reason I mentioned people getting weekly salaries vs. monthly as being a problem is because if one were to be paid by the month it would be easier to make it to the ticket lines being that the month’s $$$ would already be in the bank, whereas if paid by the week, it would be a wait and see kind of thing
September 8th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I’m going to at least one game this year because you can’t emulate the game-day experience. Nothing better than a simple “throw it to that guy, he’s wide open!” and then watching it happen. Watching football on tv is alright, but you’re missing so much of the sport. What are the safeties doing? What routes worked for that score? You have to hope the tv station will replay a clip with what you missed because the camera was on the qb. Plus, I hate commercials. I’d get season tickets if I weren’t a starving student teacher.
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