PFT: Raiders sign DT Alford
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 8th, 2010 at 7:06 am in Oakland Raiders.
Jay Alford, a former third-round draft pick by the New York Giants, has signed with the Raiders, according to Profootballtalk.com
Alford’s position coach with the Giants is Raiders defensive line coach Mike Waufle. His signature play was a 10-yard sack of Tom Brady with 19 seconds to play in Super Bowl XLII, helping to secure a 17-14 win over the previous unbeaten Patriots. He spent last season on injured reserve following knee surgery. He was also the snapper for field goals and extra points as a rookie.
Bryant has been out with an elbow injury but was back at practice Monday.
Assuming this report is correct, will be interesting to see during open locker room who is missing. Alford would be the first member of the 53-man roster who wasn’t with the Raiders when training camp began.
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September 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Uh oh …
September 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Breaking down the D-line:
Seymour still has gas in the tank and should be solid against the run and pass.
Kelly is probably in the best shape og his life and it’s also been 2+ years since his knee surgery. Should have his best season.
Shaugnessy showed a lot of promise last year and will only benefit from Seymour and Kelly in the middle.
Houston is a big DE rookie that looked good so far but is an unknown.
Scott is a very good pass rusher, period.
Bryant takes a beating around here but I feel he is good vs. the pass and run and provides nice depth at DT.
Henderson has a rep comparable to Sam Adams or Jerry Ball or Grady Jackson. And he’s only 31. On average a DT with his success should have 2 or 3 more good years.
Wimbley and Groves can also play end.
Alford is just depth at what should be a strong point for this team.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:08 am
whats up Jhill ???
thoughts?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Wauffle is bringing in another guy he is familiar with. I’d say this is probably more a reflection on Des Bryants’s injury.
No big deal.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Bryant was back at practice Monday…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Violent Hands Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 am
M.Waulfe must know him well it would make sense to cut Condo for him as we are pretty thin on the DL
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Word. Been saying for a while that Condo was not worth his slot on the 53.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Listen, Rockstar, I have heard of Fred Robbins. The guy was a leader of that Giants super bowl team.
I’m just saying that he isn’t your 3-4 style NT. He gets up-the-field as well, as evidenced by his sack totals.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Doesn’t fRed Robbins play for the Rams now?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:14 am
I think all the panic over the run defense is just residual BS from the past few years.
We FINALLY have players playing the right position instead of a pass rushing DE playing outta position a la Derrick Burgess, Shaugnessy, and Ellis.
Houston as a 300 lb DE is HUGE for us!
I don’t care about job descriptions. All I know is Seymour is NOT going to be single blocked all game. If he is, we win big and CJ gets NO yards.
TK is right, every other play, the C is going to have to decide if he is going to help on Seymour or Kelly.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:15 am
# hwnrdr Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 6:47 am
NP LMN…ready for the season to start? I can’t wait til Sunday…
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Yup, though Im pretty busy the next 2 weeks..
September 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Good pick/up nothing to lose this adds depth to an already well stocked d-line.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
I’m just saying that he isn’t your 3-4 style NT.
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the Raiders don’t run a 3-4 defense and neither did the Giants … not sure how this applies
oh well, this isn’t worth debating really
more curious to find out who gets the axe
September 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
OK need addressed but I still don’t know why we would not look at more veteran depth on the o-line and for crying out loud one veteran WR for insurance. Chaz(Hurt), Ford (injury), JLH (gets blasted and hurt every year), DHB (still suspect), Miller (coming off injury. Murphy most reliable but will drop a ball in a minute. No need to mention the rest.
By the way Zach Miller is our best WR. I hope he makes the probowl this year.
I expect to se emore screens and bubble screens with McFadden creating mismatches all day long.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:18 am
I don’t care about job descriptions. All I know is Seymour is NOT going to be single blocked all game. If he is, we win big and CJ gets NO yards.
TK is right, every other play, the C is going to have to decide if he is going to help on Seymour or Kelly.
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my guess?
Seymour gets doubled. TK doesn’t
RB’s with room to run up the middle
September 8th, 2010 at 7:18 am
I’m excited about our D-line this year. It’s the O-line I’m still worried about. Our whole D should be top 10 this year if Rolando plays like a starting MLB should and Routt comes into his own.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:20 am
JLH (gets blasted and hurt every year)
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CJ: you’re one of my favorite posters man, but what is this about?
Higgins has missed 1 game since being drafted (Weddle hit)
September 8th, 2010 at 7:20 am
only an !diot would cut Condo…
Eagles have had 2 runs for the SB ruined by their snapper got serious injury, and steelers one time…
in todays NFL you need 3 specialist, K, P and LS… thats how it is…
BSJ when you say you want the snapper to be able to contribute on defense or offense, why stop there, cut lechler and save the spot for another player, and let seabass handle all the kicks.. its ludicrous..
there is a reason the team has 53 spots… guess what the 3 from 50-53 is about…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Our whole D should be top 10 this year if Rolando plays like a starting MLB should and Routt comes into his own
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McClain & Routt will be more of a problem than solution
expect Morrison/CJ37 type results
September 8th, 2010 at 7:25 am
LMN = wrong. Witness Adam Treu. Played an actual POSITION and was a flawless snapper. It can be done, and should be. Erase Condo from our team now.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:26 am
BSJ…
keep live in the past…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Why can’t Condo be our starting center?>
September 8th, 2010 at 7:29 am
If Alford is fully recovered from his injury – then he is a huge pick-up for us. We need more depth in our line rotation – especially if we are carrying injuries (Bryant, Seymour) and facing the two most dangerous RBs in Weeks 1 and 2.
One interesting point:
Jay Alford: 6′3″, 305lbs
Lamarr Houston: 6′3″, 305lbs.
Typical Wauffle linemen. Both can play anywhere along the line – just like Seymour and Kelly.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:29 am
I’d rather have a Pro Bowl long snapper on the roster than a backup guy for depth that’ll just sit on the bench, inactive on gamedays
Janikowski, Lechler & Condo = best in the business at what they do!
September 8th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Who do you guys think is the best pick for a suicide pool this week? I’m leaning toward Jax…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Suicide pool?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:31 am
LMN, it appears we had to choose between Condo and Stevie Brown. One makes interceptions, the other, um…snaps.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:31 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 12:22 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
#1 D ain’t happening. I’m being realistic.
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Really 8, REALY, did you just sat you were being “realistic”? Really, realistic? You just said “If I could have one WISH this season it would be to have a top 7 rushing defense.” Isn’t a wish realy just a fantasy, no matter atainability, or legitimacy? That in it’s self is UNrealistic!
It’s like badly breaking your Legs, and saying “man I wish I felt better”. NO, you say MAN, I wish my legs wernt broken!
Maybe you should have just stuck to a simple “Gee Hey there guy’s, um I am hopping that the Oakland RAIDERS defensive run blocking unit is in the top 7 overall standings in the NFL.
Of course, if you had said that, Norco, MR, KK, 408, Priest, Oakglenn, heck even the Bauce would have ran yer a$$ out so quick ya’d think you were out of you mom’s basement.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:33 am
BSJ…
and an injury to treu, what would that mean?
furthermore, when I suggested McFadden should be a return guy, when he was a rookie, or DeAngelo Hall, you each time said you dont let a 1st round pick or an important player return the ball..
that said you wont let a starter be in the return game but you will allow a regular player to be the snapper??
the Special Teams is worth more than a 1/3 of the team, they are the bigtime difference makers, and to let a LS play and get an injury, is worse than Seabass end up on IR…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:35 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:31 am
LMN, it appears we had to choose between Condo and Stevie Brown. One makes interceptions, the other, um…snaps.
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proof? last time I checked it was MM whom was on the bubble
September 8th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I wanted DMC to return kicks as well, hell I wanted DHB to return kicks last year to show some worth!
How often do guys get hurt returning kicks? I can’t think of any. Guys blocking get hurt but the return man?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I never said that LMN. I would have loved DMAC to return kicks. Sorry.
And you want proof that Brown was the last player cut? He even said he made the team! Cmon, read the posts here already.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Dont let the 2 ints fool you. They werent skillful by anymeans. Like Vegas said yesterday, he had more bad plays than good if you really go back and study him. Why the out cry for Stevie and nothing for Slade? Slade scored a TD and a Safety for us… we should cut Rolando and make Slade our MLB!
September 8th, 2010 at 7:40 am
hmm Jerry doesnt think Bush will play on sunday… cr4p, and JLH will be WR3…
I think I bette go take a break read some Flashman and find a smoke or two..
see y’all
September 8th, 2010 at 7:40 am
bcz24 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Suicide pool?
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You pick one team, each week to win outright.
If you lose you are out of the pool.
You can only use a team once.
Last man standing wins all.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Ok I never heard it called a Suicide Pool. I am in a few last man things, I took Miami in one and San Diego in the other. Those are the only two I look at as sure locks.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:42 am
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# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I never said that LMN. I would have loved DMAC to return kicks. Sorry.
And you want proof that Brown was the last player cut? He even said he made the team! Cmon, read the posts here already.
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Hah.. –”LMN, it appears we had to choose between Condo and Stevie Brown. One makes interceptions, the other, um…snaps”–
no I want youto prove it was a choice between Condo and Brown.. you said so, I never heard about that..
September 8th, 2010 at 7:43 am
We should have a Semi-Pro Suicide Pool. Last man wins bragging rights…
September 8th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Who on the dline really
Draws the double team?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:46 am
I can’t speak for thers but I was hoping for stevie to stick because of the fact that we haven’t had a FS since Rod Woodson and Eric Turner before him and Ronnie Lott before him and Eddie Anderson before him.
Since Jack Tatum we’ve only had other teams stars at the end of their careers. Except for Anderson whom we stole from the Seahawks.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Stevie Brown is a rookie seventh rounder… next year he might be ready to play. I was excited by him too, but really he made a couple garbage time plays against scrubs. We have him on the practice squad where he should be.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Suicuide pools are like contests in Vegas called the “last-man standing”, although those go with the point spread.
Take the Saints.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:59 am
I took the Dolphins because they are the team I feel is a lock, AND I dont mind not using them again. Browns might be a good one this week too.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Cut Eugene, Sam Williams, and Yamon Figurs!!
Add a FB and S Brown.
S Brown > Eugene
September 8th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Thec,
Seymour.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:05 am
O, Says Seymour….Anyone else???
September 8th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Who on the Dline really draws the double team?
September 8th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Jerry Mac: we’re in here talking about long snappers & suicide pools!
please give us some thoughts on possible guys on the way out. that could or should be
Thanks
Semi-Pro Blogger #55847
September 8th, 2010 at 8:07 am
The OSU > Mich
September 8th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Can’t take thursday games…
Lets have a pool on who gets the axe for Alford.
My pick is John Henderson. I hope I’m wrong though.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Cut Eugene, Sam Williams, and Yamon Figurs!!
Add a FB and S Brown.
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that preacher burning the Koran in Florida must have got Raider O fired up, he’s on point today!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:09 am
In this 1995 article, AD says Shanarat stood on a box to make himself appear bigger. And before the Raiders hired him, he was fired in Denver for undercutting the coach.
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-02-03/sports/sp-27619_1_al-davis
September 8th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Tec,
Shaughnessy.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Dakota,
Your boys better be ready with their new coach. I’m ready to get involved in Operation Neutered Wolverine.
Jihad!!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:11 am
I hope Yamon “Saboteur” Figurs is getting the axe for Jay Alford’s roster spot. It would be criminal to carry that many WR’s on this roster.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:12 am
AD uses Nnamdi like 49er’s used D. Sanders to shut down 1/2 the field.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Who on the Dline really draws the double team?
Raider O Says – Seymour
Carl Weathers Says – Sho-Nasty
Thec07 – LHOUSTON
September 8th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Figurs is Hueys boy. Until, or if, Chaz comes back we’re not dropping a WR.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:13 am
RR,
It doesn’t bother me bro. Shows their ignorance.
Burn paper, that will teach them. lol
September 8th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Figurs has got to go…kid has had one bad play after another this pre season.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Looking at the Raiders.com depth chart and Sam Williams isn’t there.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Houston Kelly Seymour Shaugnessy
Bryant, Scott, Big John, Alford as reserves
other than T. Scott, who is a situational pass-rusher that is a lot of beef on the O-line. Rather than one-big fat guy in the middle, they have spread the mass throughout the line. I hope it works.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Raiders are Figurs 4th team in 4 years for a reason …
September 8th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I meant D-line of course…
If Figurs is activated for any games this season, we are in trouble.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:18 am
DE: ShoNasty, Houston, Scott, Bryant
DT: Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, Alford
now trade Thomas Howard & Hiram Eugene for a 6th rounder next year and add Slade Norris & Stevie Brown from the practice squad
September 8th, 2010 at 8:19 am
What is the starting Dline??
September 8th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Looking at the Raiders.com depth chart and Sam Williams isn’t there.
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what a sad day for Raider Nation
Al Davis will have him on the phone as soon as he gets a trade offer for #53
September 8th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Carl,
He is on the roster.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Shaunessy Kelly Seymour Houston looks to be our starting DL
September 8th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Wimbley McClain Groves appear to be the Starting LB core
September 8th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Trade our best cover LB for a 6th RD pick?!?
Why not keep him for this season since there is no salary cap?!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Routt Huff Branch Asomugha is the starting secondary
September 8th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Fantasy Football Roster (1 of 4)
* indicates a guy on the bench this week
QB
Jason Campbell
Bruce Gradkowski*
RB
Michael Bush*
Darren McFadden
Michael Bennett
Rock Cartwright*
Marcel Reece
WR
Chaz Schilens*
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Louis Murphy
Johnnie Lee Higgins
Jacoby Ford*
TE
Zach Miller
Brandon Myers*
K
Sebastian Janikowski
DST
Raiders
1-0 baby !!!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:24 am
bcz24 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Shaunessy Kelly Seymour Houston looks to be our starting DL
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So if thats our starting lineup 3 of those guys per our semi pro bloogers draw the double team…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Raider O Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Trade our best cover LB for a 6th RD pick?!?
Why not keep him for this season since there is no salary cap?!
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His salary is nominal. Trading him for a 6th rnder will net us something, cuz he will walk free and clear next year. He will be a UFA
September 8th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Houston Henderson Kelly Seymour>>>run look
Shaugnessy Kelly Seymour Scott>>>>pass look
Kelly Henderson Seymour>>>>>34 look
Houston Kelly Seymour Shaugnessy>>>>base 43 look
Bryant and Alford can rotate in at both DE and DT to keep the line fresh. This should be effective. I did notice in the preseason that the runs were coming more from the middle, whereas in years past, the bulk of big runs came on the outside, because the DE’s were too small and lost containment (Scott and Burgess). I just hope McClain can get up to speed quick because he is gonna have a lot of runners in his gaps.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Nice That leaves only a QB, 3 wides and a RB to be accounted for by the other 8 members of our D
September 8th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Might be some illegal formations going on on that OLine to double 3 guys though
September 8th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Thec07 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Who on the Dline really draws the double team?
Raider O Says – Seymour
Carl Weathers Says – Sho-Nasty
Thec07 – LHOUSTON
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I have also seen arguments that Kelly draws the double.
I have seen how the 9ers handled LHOUSTON. No matter what side he lined up on he was double teamed.
The point I am trying to make is you cant double all of the starters…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Trading him for a 6th rnder will net us something, cuz he will walk free and clear next year. He will be a UFA
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exactly
how much better is Thomas Howard than guys like Ricky Brown, Travis Goethel & Slade Norris?
I’ll give you Sam Williams & David Nixon – unless we’re talking about ST value too
all these guys are backups. depth. if you can get a pick for one of these guys, why not try? T-How was already on the block twice this year. wonder what the asking price was ???
September 8th, 2010 at 8:29 am
LDE: Houston, Scott
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK, Henderson
RDE: Matt S, Scott
SLB: Wimbley, Brown
MLB: McClain, Goethel
WLB: Groves, TH
CB: Nnamdi, McFadden
CB: Routt, CJ, Ware
SS: Branch, Mitchell
FS: Huff, S Brown
September 8th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Thec,
Houston did get doubled a lot. With Seymour back in the lineup, that’s going to be tough to pull off.
Unless of course teams are already in max protection mode.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Tenn runs double TE sets …
I think Houston gets doubled with a with a TE, and Seymour gets doubled with the C.
Should be WIDE OPEN for McClain and Kelly this game to make some plays.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:31 am
J Hill Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Thec,
Houston did get doubled a lot. With Seymour back in the lineup, that’s going to be tough to pull off.
Unless of course teams are already in max protection mode
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Good Point Bro…Based on that they will need to be in max protect all freaking game…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:32 am
LDE: Houston, Scott
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK, Henderson
RDE: Matt S, Scott
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O: no Alford ???
September 8th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Considering the shaky ground that the WILL LB position is on, they would be smart to keep Howard for a little bit. Scott already failed to capture the starting role and Groves is getting his audition during the season. Howard is a fantastic insurance policy and is also very effective in several of our packages (Nickel,goal line,3rd and long, etc.)
September 8th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Tenn runs double TE sets …
I think Houston gets doubled with a with a TE, and Seymour gets doubled with the C.
Should be WIDE OPEN for McClain and Kelly this game to make some plays.
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Jhill = voice of reason this AM ???
Hmmm… I’ll catch you off your game a bit later
September 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Groves is starting at Will LB I thought???
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I’ll catch you off your game a bit later
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Never
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Remember the days when Howard and Morrison were gonna be our LB’s for the next decade?
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Cant wait to see this D-line, with all of the starters present, after they have gelled a bit.
Houston+Kelly+Seymour+Shaugnessy=no weak link
at least on paper, these guys should be making life very difficult for opposing O-lines.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
RR,
Alford has to do something before he makes my depth chart.
He has to earn it!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Remember the days when Howard and Morrison were gonna be our LB’s for the next decade?
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Fools gold as they say.
Most of that babble was because of ints, NOT plays against the run.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Tenn runs double TE sets …
I think Houston gets doubled with a with a TE, and Seymour gets doubled with the C.
Should be WIDE OPEN for McClain and Kelly this game to make some plays.
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That also leaves Sho-Nasty free…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Also look for Scott on the other end of Houston, singled up on a passing play. ShoNasty & Scott = 2 sacks each ???
McClain & Routt will look awful, as expected
TK will make a few stops. nothing too great, nothing too terrible – average game from him no matter which way you look at it
pick six for #24. 8 tackles for Tyvon, including one forced fumble
September 8th, 2010 at 8:38 am
no Alford ???
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Who ????
Seriously. Who is this guy. We signed a 5th DT to do what? He’ll be inactive most sundays. The new Willie Joe.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:38 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Cant wait to see this D-line, with all of the starters present, after they have gelled a bit.
Houston+Kelly+Seymour+Shaugnessy=no weak link
at least on paper, these guys should be making life very difficult for opposing O-lines.
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For this reason we will be top 7 D in the land…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Alford has to do something before he makes my depth chart.
He has to earn it!
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O: no scholarships ???
be realistic mang
September 8th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Well fellas …
Wifey hooked me up with a couple hours at a day spa, lol.
This should be fun.
Hope I don’t get Helga.
BBL
September 8th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Remember the days when Howard and Morrison were gonna be our LB’s for the next decade?
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Then all of the sudden their inability to stop the run was no longer masked by their play making in the passing game.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:41 am
We signed a 5th DT to do what? He’ll be inactive most sundays. The new Willie Joe
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hopefully to replace Bryant or at least move him to DE!
Willie Jo? thats jacked up brother and you know it …
Alford will be a part of this DT rotation if he’s healthy!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Jhill: don’t forget the manicure, wax & botox
I guess it’s hip now to be feminized!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Jay Alford went to Penn State. Maybe he is here to give Stephen Wisniewski an Nittany Lion Alum?
Wiz in the First 2011!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am
I guess it’s hip now to be feminized!
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Nope….
September 8th, 2010 at 8:45 am
McClain & Routt will look awful, as expected
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Routt will be better on the outside than in the slot I think. Tenn is a good game for him to make his start, as they have mediocre WR’s
I have no clue why you hate McClain already without him EVER taking a real NFL snap, but still think Huff is going to amount to something? What, do they have to PROVE on the field that they suck befire you will support them?
September 8th, 2010 at 8:45 am
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/09/former_giants_defensive_tackle.html
Waufle = soft?
September 8th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Then all of the sudden their inability to stop the run was no longer masked by their play making in the passing game.
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Now Howard is a 3rd down cover LB or blitzer. Roles he’s very good at. It’s nice that we have depth at most positions on D.
Man I can’t wait for sunday!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Top 7 D…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Bcz24,
good 1st game for Routt, tough one for Rolando.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:51 am
because I’m bored and don’t feel like working…
Yamon Figurs career stats: 3 catches
……………………..86 yards 1 TD, 2 return TD’s
September 8th, 2010 at 8:51 am
do they have to PROVE on the field that they suck befire you will support them?
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BCZ: McClain didn’t impress me in the preseason, ok?
I don’t like his attitude toward the media or the fans either.
Jerry Mac & Vitt Tafur both said he looked better in pass pro than running plays. not a big hitter. does not attack the line of scrimmage. a bit reactive instead of instinctive imo
I don’t care if my MLB can cover a 300 pound friggin lineman. I want a guy out there who can shut down a running game. demand better results from the DT’s too
sorry if you guys don’t agree. Preseason Game 4 was the best this Run D has looked and ROMAC was inactive that game. didn’t see the MLB overrun many plays
September 8th, 2010 at 8:51 am
If Rolando is good enough to get our guys in the right position, and enough of a leader to stop the stupid mistakes, then I dont think he needs to come right out making big plays. Run the field, the rest will come to him.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I’ve got your back on McClain RR, I know we both watched the BCS title game and I know we both were dissappointed in McClain’s play
September 8th, 2010 at 8:53 am
McClain never struck me as a big hitter…More of a cerebral player
September 8th, 2010 at 8:54 am
What the hell did Huff do in preseason to impress you? He has proven ON the field in regular season games that he doesnt get it done. RoMac hasnt taken a real snap yet. My opinion of RoMac with regards to the media is this… maybe he is a prideful gentleman who doesnt feel like he deserves to be giving autographs when he hasnt done anything. Maybe he is one of those rare guys that will let his ON field actions do all his speaking…
September 8th, 2010 at 8:57 am
If anyone wants to know the type of LB McClain is rewatch the BCS title game. This was the biggest game of McClains career and he was less then impressive. Its hard to watch the game and not watch the ball. If you watch the ball you will see McClain in on most tackles (late and 5 yards down the field.) Sound falmiler? If you just watch McClain you will see a very undesisive guy, sometimes he was jogging on plays. His play in that game made me sick, hope I’m wrong about this guy. To me the guy is Kirk Morrison on PEDs.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Just to clarify, I do like Huff, and I think he is our best option at FS, and I think he will break out this year… Pro Bowl, not so much. But a solid season never the less.
I just think critisism of RoMac at this point is unfair.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:58 am
All this concern about McClain is starting to make me nervous.
The night before the draft on Total Access Charlie Casserly was breaking down the prospects and when talking about McClain he said he doesn’t shed block well nor does he make many big plays…and I think he said something about his sideline to sideline speed not being very impressive.
Man, I thought McClain was a lock to be a great player. I watched the national championship game and he wasn’t very impressive in that game, but I thought everyone had him as a no-brainer top ten pick!
We need this kid to pan out.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:58 am
RoMac hasnt taken a real snap yet. My opinion of RoMac with regards to the media is this… maybe he is a prideful gentleman who doesnt feel like he deserves to be giving autographs when he hasnt done anything. Maybe he is one of those rare guys that will let his ON field actions do all his speaking…
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BCZ: hey man, you’re entitled to your opinion
he just seems like an arrogant prick that sucks on the field to me so far
Hope i’m wrong!
September 8th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Again it seems like I’m more excited about the Raiders later round draft picks. Why is this the case every year?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:00 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 8:57 am
If anyone wants to know the type of LB McClain is rewatch the BCS title game. This was the biggest game of McClains career and he was less then impressive. Its hard to watch the game and not watch the ball. If you watch the ball you will see McClain in on most tackles (late and 5 yards down the field.) Sound falmiler? If you just watch McClain you will see a very undesisive guy, sometimes he was jogging on plays. His play in that game made me sick, hope I’m wrong about this guy. To me the guy is Kirk Morrison on PEDs.
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Exactly what I saw too….he looked like his feet were in mud sometimes.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Again it seems like I’m more excited about the Raiders later round draft picks. Why is this the case every year?
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RNO: me too bro!
Houston, Veldheer & Walter Mac will contribute in a big way this year
September 8th, 2010 at 9:01 am
RR= Jerry Mac? lol
September 8th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I was hoping he was hurt before the national championship game and that was why he looked so average out there….
September 8th, 2010 at 9:03 am
I thought everyone had him as a no-brainer top ten pick!
We need this kid to pan out.
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The odds are one of these top 10 picks has to pan out!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Goethel may get cut to make room for DT Alford imo.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Wasnt Jameatball a consensus Top 10 pick as well
September 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Did RoMac only play one game in college?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
-he looked like his feet were in mud sometimes
-doesn’t shed blocks well nor does he make many big plays
-his sideline to sideline speed not being very impressive
-late and 5 yards down the field
symptoms of Crohns Disease?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:05 am
I heard that Goethel would of been the Raiders starting MLB if they did not use a 1rst rounder on a MLB.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:06 am
I heard that Goethel would of been the Raiders starting MLB if they did not use a 1rst rounder on a MLB.
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it’s not a stretch to imagine Goethel beating out Ricky Brown for the MLB job …
September 8th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Did RoMac only play one game in college?
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I was thinking the same.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:07 am
The Raiders have always drafted well in the later rounds.
Hell, I wouldn’t mind if every year they traded their 1st and 2nd rounders for proven veterans and more later-round picks, and then just drafted in the 3rd round and later.
To be honest, that’s the only way you can get anything close to a “sure thing” out of high draft picks.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:07 am
I don’t see Goethel going anywhere. There is a lot of people who like this kid a lot at Raider’s Headquarters.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:08 am
bcz24 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Did RoMac only play one game in college?
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That is what I thought when I watched the NC game; he must have looked much better in all his other games to get the notoriety has had achieve up to that point. The dude was highly decorated, so that doesn’t just happen, he must have looked great in other games.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Wasnt Jameatball a consensus Top 10 pick as well
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JaWalrus is out of the league
2 other QB’s the Raider considered in RD1 (Leinart, Quinn) are 3rd string this year
no wonder Al Davis went back to former 1st rounders & “vets”
September 8th, 2010 at 9:08 am
#132 = Truth!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I think Goethel reminds the Raiders of Greg Biekert. I don’t see him going anywhere any time soon. Even if his injury is serious enough to keep him out most of the season, he’ll likely get the Nick Miller treatment instead of getting cut.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Campbell & Boller = former 1st rounders
Gradkowski = best QB on the roster last year, has leadership skills
September 8th, 2010 at 9:11 am
True statement RR early in the morning posting fast let me explain.
I actually think JLH has the best hands on the team and next to Murphy is the best WR or productive play maker on the team. Would be Chad but he is hurt as usual. With this being said, I think JLHs routes not his game always has the potential to get him blasted. After he took the big hit last year he was quite for a # of games. I think he is a reliable 3rd WR because he is asked to clear punts, KRs and go over the middle and he is a light weight guy. The offense for the last couple of years has broke down and they looked for JLH to fill in and make a play where ever on the field. If they do that and float the ball around like last year he is going to get poped again and out the game. The DBs just respect bigger WRs in the league.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:20 am
JLH (gets blasted and hurt every year)
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CJ: you’re one of my favorite posters man, but what is this about?
Higgins has missed 1 game since being drafted (Weddle hit)
September 8th, 2010 at 9:11 am
All the hype about McClain I heard before the draft was about his mind, not his phsicality on the field. I heard stuff like “he is an extra coach on the field” or “he watches a million hours of film a week” I never heard anyone say ” that guy can really stuff the run”
September 8th, 2010 at 9:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Campbell & Boller = former 1st rounders
Gradkowski = best QB on the roster last year, has leadership skills
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What up RR?
Wasn’t Campbell rated as high, in some cases higher that Smith, and Rodgers, Pre-Draft?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I think Goethel reminds the Raiders of Greg Biekert.
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if Greg Biekert took Travis Goethel under his wing for a season or two he might be the next monster MLB in Oakland. he plays downhill for sure. Cable talked him up big time on draft day
McClain might eventually move to OLB
September 8th, 2010 at 9:13 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I think Goethel reminds the Raiders of Greg Biekert. I don’t see him going anywhere any time soon. Even if his injury is serious enough to keep him out most of the season, he’ll likely get the Nick Miller treatment instead of getting cut.
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Why? Cause he is White?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Mike Wauffle is described as being too soft on his lineman in article about Alford. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/09/former_giants_defensive_tackle.html
September 8th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Hmmm,
An asteroid flew bye the earth today and no one saw it coming….another one is coming later today and will be within 50K miles of Earth.
Both were pretty small; max 65 and 46 feet respectively, but still what are the nerds with their telescopes doing? Playing Halo 3?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:15 am
He doesnt have to stuff the run if he is a good enough leader to get the other 10 guys on the field playing their position the way they should. KM led the team in tackles… and couldnt lead them out of a wet paperbag
September 8th, 2010 at 9:16 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:11 am
All the hype about McClain I heard before the draft was about his mind, not his phsicality on the field. I heard stuff like “he is an extra coach on the field” or “he watches a million hours of film a week” I never heard anyone say ” that guy can really stuff the run”
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That’s true, but a big part of why the Raiders haven’t been able to stuff the run is poor gap discipline, and simply not knowing where to be. The Raiders coaching staff is thinking that having McClain play the role of field general can help that.
We’ll see how it plays out. I think McClain definitely has the potential to make an impact, even if he flies under the radar. He might be more of a David Harris than a Patrick Willis, but that’s more than alright in my eyes.
Still, his biggest test is coming up on Sunday. Let’s see what he can do.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:16 am
This has been the best WR rotation we have had in a long time. Three veteran QBs with big game experience. 1st and 2nd staring QBs with a high accuracy rate. This could be a fun year for Raider football.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Campbell & Boller = former 1st rounders
Gradkowski = best QB on the roster last year, has leadership skills
September 8th, 2010 at 9:16 am
All the hype about McClain I heard before the draft was about his mind, not his phsicality on the field. I heard stuff like “he is an extra coach on the field” or “he watches a million hours of film a week” I never heard anyone say ” that guy can really stuff the run”
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no kidding. Charlie Frye is a film junkie and was our most accurate QB last year
before his injury, did anybody even see him pushing Gradkowski & Boller for a backup gig?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Ya I think the kid reminds me of Biekert in a big way. I think the only thing stopping him from starting is his draft position compaired to McClain’s. And the fack that we gave Morrison away for some Fritos.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Why? Cause he is White?
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Late-round pick with the same style of play.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Ah*le Giant poster states “The Oakland Raiders…where ex-Giants go to die…”
September 8th, 2010 at 9:18 am
The Raiders have always drafted well in the later rounds.
Hell, I wouldn’t mind if every year they traded their 1st and 2nd rounders for proven veterans and more later-round picks, and then just drafted in the 3rd round and later.
To be honest, that’s the only way you can get anything close to a “sure thing” out of high draft picks.
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Richard Seymour??
September 8th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Wasn’t Campbell rated as high, in some cases higher that Smith, and Rodgers, Pre-Draft?
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hey Dirty!
I’ll be honest. I don’t remember that far back man … time for some gincko biloba
September 8th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Im still just shocked that you are already counting our first round draft pick out with no real evidence other than he wont sign autographs…
September 8th, 2010 at 9:18 am
If Goethel’s injury isn’t serious, I would not be surprised if the coaching staff started trying him out at WLB.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:19 am
I think the only thing stopping him from starting is his draft position compaired to McClain’s. And the fack that we gave Morrison away for some Fritos.
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yeah, sort of like Mike Mitchell vs Stevie Brown
September 8th, 2010 at 9:21 am
no real evidence ???
BCZ: YOU PEOPLE keep talking up Kelly & Routt because of preseason play and keep talking down Huff & CJ37 because of preseason play …
why is McClain off limits?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Is TScott replacing Shaugnessy or Houston at DE?? Either one being replaced will be a bad idea?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Im still just shocked that you are already counting our first round draft pick out with no real evidence other than he wont sign autographs…
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Not me, As soon as we drafted this guy I went back and watched the BCS title game. I focused on McClain all game long. I came up with my assesment of the guy based on that one game. The preseason did not erase any of my doubts either.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Is TScott replacing Shaugnessy or Houston at DE??
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Neither – he’s backing up both of them and coming in as a situational pass rusher
think Chris Clemons a few years back. Burgess & Ellis would be bad examples because they were full-time starters at DE (when healthy) but have a similar skill set
September 8th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I think Scott will still see some time at WLB.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Sorry RR, I still think MM is better then Brown. I do like Brown and think there should be place for him, but he dose not have the phsicality of MM in the box. Thats why I like MM in goal line and short yardage situations. As far as playing FS, he is not better then Huff or as experianced as Eugene. I hope this kid can take Eugene’s spot by next year.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I think Scott will still see some time at WLB.
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CW: even with Groves, Brown & Howard in the mix?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:27 am
One false step, and he takes himself out of the play because of a lack of quick-twitch movement and recovery speed.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
raidertay Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Is TScott replacing Shaugnessy or Houston at DE?? Either one being replaced will be a bad idea?
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Certain situations only, will also backup groves at WLB..
September 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
As far as playing FS, he is not better then Huff or as experianced as Eugene. I hope this kid can take Eugene’s spot by next year.
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me too – Hiram Eugene stinks!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
I miss Eric Barton!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Eugene is athletic and experianced, to bad he is not a football player.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Would love to see Brown come in this year in 3rd and very long situations. That is where he would fit in great this year.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Got to run and drop some kids off at the pool! BBL.
Later Nation!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Hiram Eugene is basically a “colored” version of Stuart Schweigert …
except Schwag layed the wood on Tony Gonzalez that one time – LOL
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
McClain might eventually move to OLB
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LMAO!!!
For who, a 5th round pick who already had back surgery after the “pounding” of a few quarters of preseason play.
McClain looked good, made a few rookie mistakes but he will learn. Didn’t see one missed tackles all preseason, when he is in position, he brings the ball-carrier down, and down quickly.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
am I talking to myself…..OUT
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Carl Weathers Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:46 am
I can’t speak for thers but I was hoping for stevie to stick because of the fact that we haven’t had a FS since Rod Woodson and Eric Turner before him and Ronnie Lott before him and Eddie Anderson before him.
Since Jack Tatum we’ve only had other teams stars at the end of their careers. Except for Anderson whom we stole from the Seahawks.
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did this guy just put Stevie Brown in the same sentence as lott,turner, tatum and woodson…lol. Stevie Brown must be your personal friend or something…He got a lucky int here and there in garbage time against 3rd stringers
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
later RNO. hope everything comes out ok
September 8th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I am pretty sure Yamon will return the opening kickoff on Sunday, if he is on the roster.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Figgs and MILLER not listed as WR’s on the Riaders Depth Chart…..
September 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
McClain looked good
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Who ???
I thought Kirk Morrison changed to #55
September 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
I’m still holding out hope for an RB addition. Chauncey Washington, or a trade for Marshawn Lynch.
Still, the best thing for the team might be seeing what a finally healthy DMac can do as the featured back while Bush is out. Give him most of the carries, and see if he can be explosive.
If he can’t cut it, or gets injured again, it makes it easier to move on at the end of the season.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
even with Groves, Brown & Howard in the mix?
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He played too good there last year not to play there some this year.
I think, or hope, that the Raiders D will disguise their formations or use hybrid formations this year. Like a REx Ryan type D. We saw a little last year and it owrked real well. See Donovan McNabb getting swarmed.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Stevie Brown got abused on the 2 point conversion against Seattle by a TE who might not even be on a roster right now.
He was also the S on the first TD, when he took an Anthony Dorsett-esque angle on the play and didn’t even touch the WR.
Practice squad for now, maybe called up at the end of the year, and will be competing for a roster spot next year.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I am pretty sure Yamon will return the opening kickoff on Sunday, if he is on the roster.
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Depth chart fo KOR;
1. Rock 2. FORD 3. FIGGS
September 8th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Aps I agree, Having Mr. Scott at times at WLB, makes our defense bigger and still with speed.
Any word on Mr. Goethel’s injury, could he be going to the IR, that would make room for our new DT?
Possible cuts for Mr. Alford: Figurs, Eugene, Williams, Bennett or Cartwright if Bush’s injury is healing faster than has been speculated?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:37 am
A matter of fact, until Mr. Brown makes a worthwhile play in a regular season game, I refuse to call him Stevie, like he is some type of musician or something.
Steve it is.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:40 am
did this guy just put Stevie Brown in the same sentence as lott,turner, tatum and woodson…lol. Stevie Brown must be your personal friend or something…He got a lucky int here and there in garbage time against 3rd stringers
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LMAO!
I guess I did! You don’t think he’s in this category?
You picking up the sarcasm??? You know why??
September 8th, 2010 at 9:41 am
I’m still holding out hope for an RB addition.
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TCMA: how about Louis Rankin?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:41 am
remember when it comes to rookie play, Troy Palamalu had a horrible rookie year, since his second year he is the best safety in the NFL.
Many rookies have excellent rookie of the year caliber perfomances then rest on their laurels and never make a play, (or as in shawn merryroidemen after busted for PEDs) it turns out you’re just an average player.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I’m back and ten pounds lighter! I don’t think that was some kids I dropped off at the pool, it was Russell.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Figgs and MILLER not listed as WR’s on the Riaders Depth Chart…..
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Got ‘em on Special Teams
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Rockstar, I agree we need to give Rankin a shot, and our RB depth is weak.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
JFB,
Kirk Morrison changed #’s … 52 to 55
good thing we didn’t waste a draft pick!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Ahhhhh I love a good Russell is sh!t reference.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Lynch back in the East Bay.. I like it!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Polamalu will be a Raider in 2018, book it!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Assasin & Rockstar one RB I would like to see the Raiders make a trade for would be the Panthers’ #2 back, Jonathan Stewart.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:45 am
how about Louis Rankin?
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Good question. Don’t know much about him besides that he played for the Raiders for a couple years. Young and fast, which helps. Plus he can help on kick returns. At the very least he has less mileage than Cartwright.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:46 am
I don’t think the Panthers are going to trade Stewart. He and DeAngelo Williams are pretty much their entire offense at this point.
It would be nice, though, he’s one hell of a player.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Hiram Eugene is basically a “colored” version of Stuart Schweigert …
except Schwag layed the wood on Tony Gonzalez that one time – LOL
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No, I think he layed a Knee to Tony’s Wood.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:47 am
in a few weeks MBush will be healthy and Lawton’s suspension will be up.
at that time I’d like to cut Bennett & Cartwright and re-sign both Lawton & Rankin … unless those 2 do something useful while employed in Oakland the first few weeks of the season
September 8th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I think he layed a Knee to Tony’s Wood.
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Dirty: you’re thinking of Tyler Brayton & Jerramy Stevens
September 8th, 2010 at 9:49 am
No, I think he layed a Knee to Tony’s Wood.
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LMAO!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I wish I could take a sleeping pill that would last until 12 noon Sun. The wait is killing me! I think there will be some answers, good or bad in here on Mon.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I really hope they don’t bring Lawton back. I haven’t seen anything out of that guy to make me think he can be a legitimate lead blocker.
If it didn’t happen on PEDs, it’s certainly not going to happen now.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Figgs and MILLER not listed as WR’s on the Riaders Depth Chart…..
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Got ‘em on Special Teams
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Year I saw they were on special teams but nit as WR’s…
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Retribution: we could offer Carolina Higgins, Howard, Huff and a 2nd rounder next year for Jonathan Stewart and it probably still wouldn’t be enough
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Dakota,
seems a kind of twisted humor that you have such anxiety with regards to the abilities on the field of our brand new highly drafted MLB, but when it comes to a certain very highly drafted McRunningback you see “the sky’s the limit” despite all evidence to the contrary.
Go Asteroids!
Raider on.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I wish I could take a sleeping pill that would last until 12 noon Sun. The wait is killing me! I think there will be some answers, good or bad in here on Mon.
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More good than bad…
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I think someone else in hear has been sayin it for a few weeks now, but I’m going to say it again….
STOP THE F’in RUN AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE WINNERS!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Retribution: we could offer Carolina Higgins, Howard, Huff and a 2nd rounder next year for Jonathan Stewart and it probably still wouldn’t be enough
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Jon stewart is oft injuried…
September 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:21 am
no real evidence ???
BCZ: YOU PEOPLE keep talking up Kelly & Routt because of preseason play and keep talking down Huff & CJ37 because of preseason play …
why is McClain off limits?
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Show me where I am talking up Kelly and Routt. I havent mentioned Kelly one time, and only said I think Routt will be better outside than he was covering the slot. Thats not a major endorsment, my 3 year old neice can cover better than what Routt did in the slot. I also said I like Huff, maybe not for the pro bowl like you, but I think he is going to have a solid year, and I think CJ37 looked like a$$ against Seattle, but that it was likely that he was on the field too soon after the hammy and not himself. I dont fall in to your “YOU PEOPLE” rant just because I dont agree with you on McClain. He is no different than say Sam Bradford. Taking over a team (albiet on defense not offense) in desperate need of leadership and confidence. He will make his mistakes, but I just dont think he is as bad as YOU PEOPLE say he is. RoMac is being asked to take the worst run defense in the last 7 years and make it respectable. He may need some time to grow into that… give the guy a chance. Lets not label him the second coming of BRL before he takes a flippin snap.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I think someone else in hear has been sayin it for a few weeks now, but I’m going to say it again….
STOP THE RUN AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE WINNERS!
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weeks?
MONTHS bro!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:54 am
STOP THE F’in RUN AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE WINNERS!
We force teams to pass and become 1 Dimensional, we will win a lot of games…Sunday will be a real proving ground on several fronts….
September 8th, 2010 at 9:55 am
CJ37 looked like a$$ against Seattle
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Beyonce, J-Lo, Alicia Keys, Kenya Moore????
September 8th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I think after all the years of failed high 1rst round draft picks the Nation has just soured on them all. Hope McClain stops the bleeding. Who was the last high 1rst rounder that the Raiders drafted that played in a probowl… Another Russell?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:56 am
give the guy a chance. Lets not label him the second coming of BRL before he takes a flippin snap.
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ROFLMAO….. Solid post Bruh…..
September 8th, 2010 at 9:56 am
What better test than to have CJ 1st week and SJ 2nd week.
p.s. Jerry, who the f@$k gets dropped for Alford?
September 8th, 2010 at 9:56 am
The difference in CJ’s performance between wins and losses was about 30 yards rushing and less than 10 yards receiving.
We must score points, win the turnover battle, play well on ST, and stop VY.
VY will be the difference maker this week, not CJ.
CJ had a game with 190 yards rushing, and they lost last year!! He also had a game where he ran for 110 yards and over 8.0 ypc, and they lost 59-0!!
September 8th, 2010 at 9:58 am
I dont agree with you on McClain. He is no different than say Sam Bradford. Taking over a team (albiet on defense not offense) in desperate need of leadership and confidence. He will make his mistakes, but I just dont think he is as bad as YOU PEOPLE say he is. RoMac is being asked to take the worst run defense in the last 7 years and make it respectable. He may need some time to grow into that… give the guy a chance. Lets not label him the second coming of BRL before he takes a flippin snap.
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fair enough, but why do we always place 100 percent of the responsibility on the MLB or FS anyways?
it all starts up front imo.
MLB isn’t rocket science like you guys make it out to be either …
September 8th, 2010 at 9:58 am
I think after all the years of failed high 1rst round draft picks the Nation has just soured on them all. Hope McClain stops the bleeding. Who was the last high 1rst rounder that the Raiders drafted that played in a probowl… Another Russell?
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Asomugha.
Has Jano been in a pro bowl? He should have the last couple years.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
BRL??
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
The difference in CJ’s performance between wins and losses was about 30 yards rushing and less than 10 yards receiving.
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JFB,
TD’s don’t count anymore?
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
the best news about all the weekend roster moves is that Henderson made the team and Heard made the practice squad. I dont really care about those two particular players, but it marks the first time in awhile that the Raiders have acknowledged that they want some NT type lineman, in addition to the “plethora” of 3-techs that we have playing at every D-line position. If the two of them dont work out, I look forward to them actually drafting or trading for a decent 0-tech, two-gap, wide body DT in the near future.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
The Chargers have just cut Jonathon Crompton from their Practice Squad. An injury to Billy Volek has forced them to bring in J T O’Sullivan (who is useless) and they had to create space. Crompton is still an excellent long-term prospect (good size, pro-style savvy and tough) – we should put him on our Practice Squad and let Hue develop him. Smart long-term thinking and it would annoy the **** out of the Chargers.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am
BCZ is right about Routt, the guy can play outside with the side line to help him out. Then thing is that this has been known for a few years now. CJ should be playing the slot. Its not like the slot is a demotion. In todays NFL the slot CB is a starter.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am
You guys just fall in love with names…Rankin…I think there’s a reason why he’s still unsigned? if that’s the case bring in Dirty Sanchez,Striker Sulak and hartwell brown
September 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am
MLB isn’t rocket science like you guys make it out to be either …
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I dont know mang…The MLB has to match wits with the best player on the field… the QB….
The MLB has to decode what he sees process, get everyone in proper aligment, even audible the D, then using his insticts react all in a matter of a few milli seconds…
Probable the second toughest postion on the field….
the player needs to be cerebral, and physical….
September 8th, 2010 at 10:02 am
as far as Aso and Jano go, they don’t count. They were not HIGH 1rst rounders.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Here’s the thing. Good run defense or not, CJ’s going to get his yards. He did it all last season so there’s no reason to think that he won’t do it here.
But even last season, CJ’s yards alone weren’t enough to win consistently. It’s going to be up to the Raiders to make the Titans, Vince Young in particualar, take some chances to win.
If the Raiders can win the turnover battle, that’s going to be a big part of it. They need to play smart on offense. Control the ball. If they can dominate in time of possession, it’ll give the Titans less time to run the ball.
Avoid turnovers, minimize 3-and-outs, and stop the Titans from getting good field position to begin their drives. Do that and the Raiders have a very good shot to take this one.
I think the defense would do well to leave a spy on Vince Young, because if he doesn’t see anywhere to throw it he’s going to try to run it.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:03 am
so Coach Gruden declares the Raiders in contention for the division because they have the makings of an outstanding defense
and half the talking heads on TV have RoMcClain DefROY candidate
don’t ya think that the defensive packages offered in pre-season were not what we’re gonna see week 1 and beyond.
man, fanatics with microscopes…
September 8th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I dont know mang…The MLB has to match wits with the best player on the field… the QB….
The MLB has to decode what he sees process, get everyone in proper aligment, even audible the D, then using his insticts react all in a matter of a few milli seconds…
Probable the second toughest postion on the field….
the player needs to be cerebral, and physical….
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I would rather have a FS doing that and let the MLB focus on the RB.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:04 am
it’s been a long off season….are y’all ready for some FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:05 am
M Lonetree Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Dakota,
seems a kind of twisted humor that you have such anxiety with regards to the abilities on the field of our brand new highly drafted MLB, but when it comes to a certain very highly drafted McRunningback you see “the sky’s the limit” despite all evidence to the contrary.
Go Asteroids!
Raider on.
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I never claimed to be above hypocrisy when it comes to McFadden.
YEAH BABY! MCFADDEN’S YEAR!!!!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I was watching the Notre Dame-Purdue game I DVR’d over the weekend…
I hope the Raiders’ draft scouts are looking at G Chris Stewart and NT Ian Williams.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
assassin, your right about the Raiders needing to start out with a lead and force VY to pass. Hope Hue’s scripted plays get us a score fast and then your senario can work out.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
half the talking heads on TV have RoMcClain DefROY candidate
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95 percent of them said “Who ???” when we drafted Darrius Heyward-Beast in the Top 10 last year too!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
as far as Aso and Jano go, they don’t count. They were not HIGH 1rst rounders.
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OK then I guess Tim Brown?
September 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am
RNO: score fast?
throw it to Johnnie Lee!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I would rather have a FS doing that and let the MLB focus on the RB.
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You would be the only GM/Coach in history to have the FS, 17yds from the LOS, calling audibles based on line reads and assuring DL are aligned properly while maintaining gap responibility… and you would do it for about an hour, then they would go back to the MLB and you would go back to your day job.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am
50 Catches is my expectations of dhb.next year 80. if not …Bust.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am
WHo is BRL?
September 8th, 2010 at 10:08 am
as far as Aso and Jano go, they don’t count. They were not HIGH 1rst rounders.
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OK then I guess Tim Brown?
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No, Darrel Russell?
September 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
BRL = Black Ryan Leaf = Jamarquil Russell
September 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
WHo is BRL?
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Thec calls JaMarcus Russell “BRL”
short for Black Ryan Leaf …
September 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Tim Brown? and Charles Woodson. But the last one was Darrell Russell, what a waste!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:10 am
J Hill Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 7:14 am
I think all the panic over the run defense is just residual BS from the past few years.
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I don’t think the word “residual” is the one I would use to explain the run defense the past “few years”
I think any and all concerns about this run defense is valid until they go on the field in a regular season game and stop somebody.
Until they do it on the field CONSISTENTLY….its all hopes and dreams or fears and nightmares.
Stopping the run is an attitude that this team is just now getting introduced to after years of “back 7″
They were trolling out the same excuses after getting smashed on the ground by Chicago and San Fran in the preseason…..”gotta fill our gaps” “uh….one guy not making a play” “MLB out of position” and on and on and on.
Stop the RUN!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:10 am
if only ricky dudley had caught that pass right over the middle in the 1st quarter of opending day like 4 years ago this wouldnt be happening to us.lol
September 8th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Oh ya
That’s really not fair to Leaf ;^)
September 8th, 2010 at 10:11 am
50 Catches is my expectations of dhb.next year 80. if not …Bust.
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Shark, 70 this year. 100 next year
way above your expectations! booyah
September 8th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Jano never quite lived up to the hype of a kicker that can consistently make very long FGs and crush kickoffs into the endzone every time…the super weapon kicker he was supposed to be…but all things considered he has been a very good kicker the past several seasons.
Certainly should not have drafted him at 17, but it could have been worse I guess.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:11 am
JaDavis is gone folks.
No point in bringing up that guy anymore.
Blame the folks that forced the Purple Dranking fool on the field despite his open indifference for the job.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:12 am
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# Thec07 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Figgs and MILLER not listed as WR’s on the Riaders Depth Chart…..
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Got ‘em on Special Teams
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Year I saw they were on special teams but nit as WR’s…
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Interesting… Sam Williams is also not listed on the Depth Chart… He’s just a ST guy too.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Sam Williams is also not listed on the Depth Chart…
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Ted: he’ll be back after we trade #53 for a 6th rounder
September 8th, 2010 at 10:13 am
You would be the only GM/Coach in history to have the FS, 17yds from the LOS, calling audibles based on line reads and assuring DL are aligned properly while maintaining gap responibility… and you would do it for about an hour, then they would go back to the MLB and you would go back to your day job.
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I don’t know if this has been done in the NFL. But I seen it done in the XFL. The Vegas Outlaws had thier S calling the D. My day job is coaching H/S football and we use the smartest kid on the field calling auds regaudless of position. Been doing it for ten years now, my job is safe, thanks.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Getting rid of Condo would be foolish.
This team does not need anymore issues.
You have the highest paid kicker and punter in the league.
Might as well give them the highest paid snapper too.
Its like putting worn out balding tires on a high performance sports car.
Instead of fixing sometning that’s not broken…how about dealing with this run defense.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:14 am
One of the worst run defenses over the last 7 years.
Instead of looking at film about what they did wrong, they should really start looking at who does it right!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:15 am
The real question of the day is… How is there no Roster update to Madden 11 after final cut down day.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:16 am
To me it seemed like SF’s game plan was to attack McClain. It seemed to be working. The kid needs to step up.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am
I would just as well see the MLB call the plays…like every other team does and have that MLB put his shoulders into the running back at or behind the LOS,
Not having to do blame Michael Huff or Hiram Eugene for not stopping a 225 pound running back coming fullspeed unabated
Does anyone find it upsetting that Tyvon Branch was one of the top 10 tacklers in the NFL last year…or Gibril Wilson before him.
That doggone line better man up!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Did I read that this new DT also is a long snapper?
September 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am
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# TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Here’s the thing. Good run defense or not, CJ’s going to get his yards. He did it all last season so there’s no reason to think that he won’t do it here.
But even last season, CJ’s yards alone weren’t enough to win consistently. It’s going to be up to the Raiders to make the Titans, Vince Young in particualar, take some chances to win.
If the Raiders can win the turnover battle, that’s going to be a big part of it. They need to play smart on offense. Control the ball. If they can dominate in time of possession, it’ll give the Titans less time to run the ball.
Avoid turnovers, minimize 3-and-outs, and stop the Titans from getting good field position to begin their drives. Do that and the Raiders have a very good shot to take this one.
I think the defense would do well to leave a spy on Vince Young, because if he doesn’t see anywhere to throw it he’s going to try to run it.
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Right On!
Raiders 1-0
September 8th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I don’t know if this has been done in the NFL. But I seen it done in the XFL. The Vegas Outlaws had thier S calling the D. My day job is coaching H/S football and we use the smartest kid on the field calling auds regaudless of position. Been doing it for ten years now, my job is safe, thanks.
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Worked well for the XFL… they lasted one year. We did a lot of things in HS football that worked very well, still doesnt translate to the NFL. The spread offense will score ya 100pts in a HS football game… It wont even get you on the practice squad of an NFL team. No insult meant to you man, but the NFL has been around a long time, and if it were feasible for the FS to be calling the defense SOMEONE would be doing it.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:19 am
The thing is that Wilson also got a butt load of tackles when he played for NY. Some S’s just play the run better then some others.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:20 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 10:16 am
To me it seemed like SF’s game plan was to attack McClain. It seemed to be working. The kid needs to step up.
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Yup…but he’s a rookie and needs some time.
HOpefully Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour are keeping the O-Line busy so McClain can fly around the field like willis was.
Linebackers flying around the field…..not getting mauled and abused by guards in the 2nd level.
McClain’s success or failure rides on the D-Line…
September 8th, 2010 at 10:20 am
The XFL lasted one year because of the league not the players or the coaches. It was still football, your missing the point.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:22 am
S&B: guys blaming a safety for a poor run defense are simply highlite junkies. ignore the trenches and see a guy 1-on-1 with a RB and the RB goes the distance … does anybody understand the game of football?
I’m not a coach, but I can see that it takes 11 guys to stop the run with the front seven being the most responsible
September 8th, 2010 at 10:22 am
If thats all you took from my post that sadly it is you who missed the point.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:22 am
McClain’s success or failure rides on the D-Line…
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Truth…
September 8th, 2010 at 10:23 am
The problem I see with McClain is he is not flying around. He seems to be in his stance thinking and waiting for the play to come to him. I hope this is just a case of a rookie over thinking so he dosn’t mess up. With time the instincts should take over, SHOULD!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:23 am
BigTed707 Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am
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# TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Here’s the thing. Good run defense or not, CJ’s going to get his yards. He did it all last season so there’s no reason to think that he won’t do it here.
But even last season, CJ’s yards alone weren’t enough to win consistently. It’s going to be up to the Raiders to make the Titans, Vince Young in particualar, take some chances to win.
If the Raiders can win the turnover battle, that’s going to be a big part of it. They need to play smart on offense. Control the ball. If they can dominate in time of possession, it’ll give the Titans less time to run the ball.
Avoid turnovers, minimize 3-and-outs, and stop the Titans from getting good field position to begin their drives. Do that and the Raiders have a very good shot to take this one.
I think the defense would do well to leave a spy on Vince Young, because if he doesn’t see anywhere to throw it he’s going to try to run it.
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The Raiders need to contain C.J…sure he’ll get some yards…but 60 and 80 yard sprints to the end zone are unacceptable…I don’t care who’s running the football.
Give up one or two of those a game and you are going to lose more than you win.
The Raidrs have to go in there DETERMINED to stop the run. Not just HOPING they stop it or being satsified with plodding efforts because everyone is seeking out QB sacks on every play
September 8th, 2010 at 10:23 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 10:14 am
….You have the highest paid kicker and punter in the league.
Might as well give them the highest paid snapper too.
Its like putting worn out balding tires on a high performance sports car.
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Hey, that analogy fits the fact that Tom Cable is our HC too! Talk about worn out balding tires…20-55 as a HC!
September 8th, 2010 at 10:23 am
new post
September 8th, 2010 at 10:25 am
No I see your point Bcz, I’m just saying it has been done with success. The Raiders biggest problem is with stopping the run not the pass. I don’t want a rookie MLB messing with a good pass D. Just let the kid focus on the RB and start there.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:26 am
I didnt blame Huff for Forte’s 89yd run… only the last 59. He made a half assed attempt and got burned. I know MY coaches ALWAYS taught me angle of pursuit. If Huff even got an arm on Forte it would have slowed him up enough for Tyvon to catch him. We know our 3rd string Dlineman got blown up on that play, and RoMac got taken out by a very good (center I think). No excuses. Huff should have watched forte get tackled after a 3yd run… fact is just because its NOT Huffs fault that Forte broke free into the secondary doesnt negate his responsiblity to be the last line of defense.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:27 am
[...] According to Mike Florio, the Raiders have signed defensive tackle Jay Alford. While the transaction is, as of yet, nowhere to be found on the Raiders’ official website , it is being reported by various media outlets including a post on Bay Area beat writer Jerry McDonald’s blog. [...]
September 8th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Violent Hands Says:
September 8th, 2010 at 3:14 am
M.Waulfe must know him well it would make sense to cut Condo for him as we are pretty thin on the DL
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Word. Been saying for a while that Condo was not worth his slot on the 53.
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Until Janikowski starts missing FGs and the you will blame the kicker…and say he never was worth the 1st rd draft choice. Condo also gets down the field well and can tackle as he was a former LB. He is important to the kicking game!