Postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 12th, 2010 at 5:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Tyvon Branch sent his regrets via modern technology:
“I personally apologize to the raider nation!,” Branch sent out on his Twitter account about two hours after a 38-13 loss to the Tennessee Titans.
A business memo would characterize Week 1 for the Raiders as “failure to accomplish any of the objectives and/or projections set forth by management.”
Other than Darren McFadden for the first time looking every bit the No. 4 overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft, there was virtually nothing for the Raiders or their fans to feel good about.
Other than the fact that it was on the road in the afternoon, and not at home in prime time, this one had the whiff of hopeless season openers in 2006 and 2008, when the San Diego Chargers (27-0) and Denver Broncos (41-14) humiliated Raiders teams which were never really in the game.
News, notes, observations and some quotes (furnished on site by Steve Corkran and from the Titans P.R. staff):
– The Raiders aren’t likely to go into any sort of detail until Wednesday, but the game caused physical pain as well as mental anguish. Six players didn’t finish _ Robert Gallery (hamstring), Yamon Figurs (stinger), Hiram Eugene (lower leg), Michael Huff (knee) and Richard Seymour (hamstring).
If both safeties are hurt, the Raiders will consider promoting Stevie Brown from the practice squad unless they want to move Tyvon Branch, Mike Mitchell or Jeremy Ware to single deep safety.
– Raiders coach Tom Cable: “We felt like we were very hesitant in all three phases particularly early in the game, and never seemed to get rid of it. In this league, they don’t give you anything, you have to take it.”
Not entirely true. The Raiders gave up a 56-yard touchdown pass from Vince Young to Nate Washington, 15-yard scoring run by Javon Ringer and a 76-yard bolt to Chris Johnson on plays which would have been touchdowns in flag football.
“Those plays they scored on were our mistakes,” cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “You know, if we played our defense correctly, that stuff never happens. The deep pass, and then the draw.”
– Blocking and tackling, two issues which along with quarterback play have killed the Raiders for the better part of the last seven years, were poor again. Quarterback Jason Campbell never could get anything going with wide receivers and wasn’t able to get Zach Miller involved until it was too late. He barely had time to think. Truth be told, when Campbell did have time, he wasn’t very good.
And if he doesn’t get any better at sliding, he’ll wind up being injured without being hit.
Campbell’s interception and 32-yard return by Chris Hope, setting up another Tennessee score, was another instance of the Raiders making it way too easy for the Titans.
– During training camp, much of the talk was about a sophisticated offense installed by Hue Jackson that would bring the Raiders into the world of contemporary football. Instead, Cable sounded a lot like Lane Kiffin when he said, “I learned like we have to stay on schedule. We have to play the game in a mode that does not allow us to be in third and long so much.”
Gallery was more blunt.
“We were in long-yardage situations and we’re no good when we get to that,” Gallery said.
– Jared Veldheer’s baptism under fire is one he’d rather forget, from poor shotgun snaps to being at the center of a line that found itself overwhelmed much of the game. Veldheer wasn’t at Hillsdale anymore.
“It was a new experience, obviously,” Veldheer said. “I definitely got better at some things. There’’s some opportunties to keep working at things, keep getting better at things . . . there were challenges at times, which I knew there would be.”
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain finished with six tackles and found himself walled off on Ringer’s 15-yard touchdown run _ the kind of play he was drafted to prevent.
McClain echoed what he said during the week _ that the NFL really wasn’t all that much faster and better than the SEC.
“No different,” McClain said of the speed.
– The Titans rushed for 205 yards, 76 of those coming on the one Johnson run. The other 38 carries for the Titans netted 133 yards _ an average of 3.5 yards per carry.
To the Raiders credit, they seemed to realize those 76 yards indeed count toward the total. They went in hoping to keep Johnson from breaking the big one and failed.
The good news? There are no more Chris Johnsons on the schedule and 3.5 yards per carry will be a huge upgrade if they can do it against most other teams.
– Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour: “Things just kind of snowballed on us. I don’t think the game started out that bad. Once they got momentum, we never seemed to get it back. It will be a good film to watch because we have a lot of things to work on.”
– Raiders quarterback Campbell: “Obviously, we’re not proud of how we played today. We have to get back to the drawing board, eliminate the penalties and we can’t turn it over.”
Ah yes, the penalties How about 10 for 77 yards. That was another offseason point of emphasis.
– Figurs fumbled the opening kickoff, with the Raiders recovering. Figurs also fumbled on a kickoff return against San Francisco and a punt against Seattle.
Can’t say they weren’t warned.
– Asomugha: “During the preseason, as far as the confidence level we’ve shown, we looked likea team that even if we were behind, it would be OK, we’d be able to bounce back, so I never got too discouraged. Then the fourth quarter rolled around, we were still struggling, and I was like, `What’s going on? Why can’t we make up this ground?”
– McFadden looked like the running/receiving back the Raiders had envisioned when they drafted him. He’s never ran harder or better from scrimmage, gaining 95 yards with a long of 16. He consistently broke the first tackle and finished runs. He also caught six passes for 55 yards.
“Catching the ball, running with the football, blocking, he was able to convert some plays,” Cable said. “That’s the kind of player we envisioned him being. As I have said all along, if he is healthy, that’s what he’s capable of.”
Said McFadden: “I just feel like I did the best job that I could out there as far as how the coaches use me. You want to go out there and play hard and I feel like I did that today.”
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September 12th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Fugg a post game wrap we play titans again in oakland in first round come january and win!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Evenin Bauce, NATION.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
# SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
doing good brotha thanx for asking, hope you been good as well.
it sure did look like they had our gameplan down packed. i dont know what happened out there. it looked promising in the very verrrrry beginning, but then went down hill.
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Its great you are doing well……i value you on this site! Man today was rough the oline let us down……can cable coach these guys up? if not in first game can we get a reprieve at home?
September 12th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
D-Racs….its rough but sunday you and i shall most def meet! Dont worry its first game lets win at home!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Bring a cd of whatever ya want dude,..we will mix it in with the Sabbath, Megadeth, Motorhead,…
September 12th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Have you ever lost a battle with the couch and spill your drink? Thats me right now
September 12th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Bring a cd of whatever ya want dude,..we will mix it in with the Sabbath, Megadeth, Motorhead,…
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Sorry but my black ass may need need sabbath…..oline has me PARANOID
September 12th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
yamon figurs? really? he’s the best we’ve got? man, what an ugly game… dhb? still catching the ball with his body… one catch all day… mcskinny, not to bang on him, but a perfect illustration of how fantasy stats don’t have the same value as “real” stats. good fantasy game, meaningless game yards.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aIhh9nFYv4
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actually rocking sabbath now…….im ready for next week!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
# crister Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
yamon figurs? really? he’s the best we’ve got? man, what an ugly game… dhb? still catching the ball with his body… one catch all day… mcskinny, not to bang on him, but a perfect illustration of how fantasy stats don’t have the same value as “real” stats. good fantasy game, meaningless game yards.
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lol
September 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Hahaha…you got it man,..1st cd I put in will be best of Sabbath, 1st track is Paranoid,..yuoure on!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Gotta start Gradkowski, the line isnt suited for Campbell. You need someone who is going to be quick and make smart decisions with the ball with the limited time. Grads makes things happen, beating playoff caliber teams last year.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I was about to root for the Skins to beat Dallas, until I remembered who they head coach is,..go Dallas!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Dang, these experts wanting to sit JC already,..lol.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Hahaha…you got it man,..1st cd I put in will be best of Sabbath, 1st track is Paranoid,..yuoure on!
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yeah just play youre rock music…..seems to work well wih raider game! fuggin PA with his MC Hammer “Oaktown” sucks
September 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Dang, these experts wanting to sit JC already,..lol.
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Yeah well sit all 5 starting olinemen first tho
September 12th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I just got an email from Brad,..Drank may be on anyway!!! Stay tuned.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I think we need to sit down some fans,…and they know who they are.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
But ppl have noticed dmac shaking tacklers right?
September 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Other than Darren McFadden for the first time looking every bit the No. 4 overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft…
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At what point did McFadden look anything like a 4th overall pick?
Let me amend that for you:
“Other than Darren McFadden for the first time looking like a serviceable NFL RB, there was virtually nothing for the Raiders or their fans to feel good about.”
It was nice to see him not falling down after little or no contact. It was cute when Campbell hit his a few times underneath soft Titan coverage. Let’s not lose sight of reality, though. McFadden did nothing special. He finally looked like a guy who warranted a roster spot, and that’s great to see. But blowing sunshine up our asses with that “looking every bit the No. 4 overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft” nonsense. You’re better than that.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I just got an email from Brad,..Drank may be on anyway!!! Stay tuned.
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I think we need to sit down some fans,…and they know who they are.
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Its like trying to rob me with a bee bee gun!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
# Crow Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Other than Darren McFadden for the first time looking every bit the No. 4 overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft…
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At what point did McFadden look anything like a 4th overall pick?
Let me amend that for you:
“Other than Darren McFadden for the first time looking like a serviceable NFL RB, there was virtually nothing for the Raiders or their fans to feel good about.”
It was nice to see him not falling down after little or no contact. It was cute when Campbell hit his a few times underneath soft Titan coverage. Let’s not lose sight of reality, though. McFadden did nothing special. He finally looked like a guy who warranted a roster spot, and that’s great to see. But blowing sunshine up our asses with that “looking every bit the No. 4 overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft” nonsense. You’re better than that.
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Shut up dummy
September 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Never have been a fan of Campbell, but Grads made things happen with the same line. Put satele back bin at center and move valdheer to LT. Play them at the positions they were drafted to play.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
fire cablee he looked lost out there, just shaking his head about to cry.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
They say the backup QB is always the most popular player on the team. Grads looked good in preseason. Beating 49er blitz to Murphy was thing of beauty. Team has faith in him.
But honestly, behind that line. Grads might be back on crutches by the bye week. We may actually get to see him any way. JC might be taking another ride on that rickety old golf cart if the O-line don’t get their head out of their collective azzes.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
We ok………..maybe
September 12th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
these fools look like caca, that oline and huff all suc.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
buk……oline let team team down……but many on here did day that would case
September 12th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
# big pep Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
fire cablee he looked lost out there, just shaking his head about to cry.
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name best option…..you cant
September 12th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I wouldnt be surprised if cable gets his notice on the plane ride back.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
why is DHB catching the wrath?
com’on, did you really watch the game? not even ZM caught a ball till half pass 3Q LOL
the oline was a complete mess (and so was campbell although i give him a very slight repreive due to the oline failures)
September 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
hopefully the roughest we will have to deal with this season. i really think we can really clinch down on the mental mistakes we made. at home next week will be huge for us to come out with a win and i know we will prevail with one.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Bench Henderson and put Valdheer in at LT. Start Satele and sign Grove.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
# art shells clipboard Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Bench Henderson and put Valdheer in at LT. Start Satele and sign Grove.
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you moniker shows why you are an idiot
September 12th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
# SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
hopefully the roughest we will have to deal with this season. i really think we can really clinch down on the mental mistakes we made. at home next week will be huge for us to come out with a win and i know we will prevail with one.
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The god of Texas speaks!
September 12th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
i gave DMac his props …never seen hiim run so hard and juke players like that …it was like he had a chip on his shoulders and a lot to prove.
dude put in work today ..no one can be made at him ..he earned more playing time and maybe even on his way to cementing himself as the unquestioned starter if he keeps it up
September 12th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Donavon may blow chunks but he looks the part tonight. Big, strong and fast
September 12th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
# TerrapinRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
i gave DMac his props …never seen hiim run so hard and juke players like that …it was like he had a chip on his shoulders and a lot to prove.
dude put in work today ..no one can be made at him ..he earned more playing time and maybe even on his way to cementing himself as the unquestioned starter if he keeps it up
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HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM…..BAUCE
September 12th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
anyone can see that tom cable is a stop gap for hue jackson. i dont think Als a huge cable fan …didn’t even give him mention when speaking of the great raider hc’s …but he sure mentioned jackson
tom’s on a very short leash
September 12th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
im with art shells start grads.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
plunk…..lose no confidenc!……let see the next 2 weeks
September 12th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
if the oline is his ’specialty’ and that thing still can’t get right ..then thats all you need to know …3yrs and its still like this?
September 12th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
start B. Campbell.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Henderson needs to be cut. Guy plays with no pride..,
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
will be beat the rams? thoughts…
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Well it didnt take long for people to turn on Campbell, now everyone wants Li’ Bruce. Campbell made some bonehead mistakes but hey,,the players are a product of the coach,,so we have Basic Cable as our coach,,and we looked really basic out there. Funny thing is,,now everyone wants Cable gone, yet we also want a winning season, but if we win then we’re stuck with Cable, because you dont fire a head coach after a winning season,,unless you’re the Chargers. So it looks like we’re in a lose, lose situation. I think Campbell will rebound from today’s loss,,I bet JaMarcus was somewhere watching the game, laughing his ass off with his 30 million dollar bank account. Welcome to the NFL DMAC,,,,,anyone seen Darrius Heyward Bey?
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
B.Campbell should have been doing reps at either RT or LT. But Cable only has him at Gaurd …orders of the “guru”.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Im still all in, swinging from als sack with my koolaid sippycup.
If Bush/DMAC get healthy at the same time they will put the fear into opposing teams.
Bad start all the way around. Next week will be different. We better be ready to move the chains while being blitzed because you know Spaznoli will bring heat from everywhere.
September 12th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I am glad to see Dmac do something finally. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves, most of his yardage was gained on very soft defensive schemes. There is no way the guy can smash it out North to South right out of the backfield. We’ll see if he can keep those numbers for the next 2-3 games.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Nah priest ….i had the raiders at .500 give or take a game …that will not save Cable’s hind. He is out.
and com’on not you too? …first the ball has to get in the air before you can see dhb …the way that line blocked ..the ball rarely got in the air …zmiller didnt even see the ball till the 3Q
September 12th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
gradkowski is a better qb hands down
September 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Darren shut me up with his play, and Jason Campbell just fueled the fire.
No more D-Mac jokes from me. He looked sharp.
Now let’s work on some cohesion between QB and O-line, whatever the combination is.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
B.Campbell should have been doing reps at either RT or LT. But Cable only has him at Gaurd …orders of the “guru”.
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Really? That’s B.S., I mean c’mon. If we are going to go ahead and call this what it is then let’s rebuild. Get the kid in their at tackle where he should be and develop him.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
bush and a new mcfadden will be a good 1-2 punch. but the oline has to block. hopefully tenn’s D is for real. i think it was even before this game.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Here’s what I learned:
1) Our offensive line is horrible. I’m not *only* talking about the rookie center. I’m mostly talking about Walker and Henderson. It looked to me that all of the sacks came from the edge.
2) Tennessee always has some of the best Defensive line personnel in the NFL, but that still isn’t an excuse for #1 above.
3) DMAC *finally* looked like he could be the man. It was a real bright spot.
4) Our run D was good except two big plays, I think it will improve – it was the best we’ve looked WRT run D in years.
5) Our DBs were running around like farts in a blizzard – giving up pivotal pass plays from Vince Young is just awful.
I’m reserving judgment on Jason Campbell. There isn’t one QB in the NFL who would have looked stellar behind that line.
I’m also reserving judgment on Hue Jackson. If our offensive output today is supposed to be the platform for him taking over Cable’s job, then we’re all deluded.
Anyone who thinks that we were ‘unfairly’ targeted by the refs – 10 penalties for 77 yards is mistaken – Tennessee was penalized 8 times for 81 yards.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Yeah he is
September 12th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Campbell + Hue Jackson = Al Davis guys = Losers
Gradkowski = Winner = Al Davis pain in the ass
September 12th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Remember in 2007 Skins were 5-6 with Jason Campbell, than went 5-0 with Todd Collins to end the year and make the playoffs.
Next two years they went 12-20.
Bet they make the playoffs this year.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
morilla Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
B.Campbell should have been doing reps at either RT or LT. But Cable only has him at Gaurd …orders of the “guru”.
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Really? That’s B.S., I mean c’mon. If we are going to go ahead and call this what it is then let’s rebuild. Get the kid in their at tackle where he should be and develop him.
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Nope …Cable believes in proven scrubs at tackle. Its the “guru’s” philosophy.
MHenderson was a good pick given the starts he’s given us. Now its time to move on.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Fat Al is such a punk baby, watching him now pout on the sidelines.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Priest is here? No!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Nope …Cable believes in proven scrubs at tackle. Its the “guru’s” philosophy.
MHenderson was a good pick given the starts he’s given us. Now its time to move on.
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I think it’s time he revisits his philosophy. After seeing those 2 out there today was almost laughable. I spent a good quarter just watching them and they were getting blown by almost every play. To slow, bad feet, you name it.
Get the new blood in there.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Darren shut me up with his play, and Jason Campbell just fueled the fire.
No more D-Mac jokes from me. He looked sharp.
Now let’s work on some cohesion between QB and O-line, whatever the combination is.
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Cant really go against this post
September 12th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Cable will have to go 9-7 (+) to keep his job. The writings on the wall.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
HERE’S WHAT I LEARNED =
same ol raiders
they already won the superbowl in the preseasom
Ill go with the chargers, jets, packers…
let al davis cheer for his team
September 12th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Well, I’m done. Gotta go do something productive. I’ll leave with these takeaways:
1. McClain is the real deal
2. The defense is a lot better
3. Routt did nothing to get the flak in here (the TD catch was on Branch falling down)
4. Get Mike Mitchell in the game
5. OLine stunk like hot garbage
6. Veldheer will get better with the snaps, calls will take longer
7. Campbell looked exactly as he did 1st preseason game
8. No one can look good behind that line
9. Tom Cable stinks
10. Tom Cable will be fired …eventually
And DMac looked like a #4 pick!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Gradkowski won’t hold up behind that line. Put him in if you want to end his career.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
And Tom Cable is no Oline “guru”
September 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
And oline are a bunch of girls
September 12th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
i dont even know where to begin, just a real bad day alltogether got in a heated argument with my dad and got our butts kicked bad
September 12th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
D is “alot” better?? Stupid.Silly. Fool talk. Moronic
McClain is the “real deal”? He did NOTHING today to warrant such a statement.
Mike Mitchell sucks.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
O line needs to collect unemployment
September 12th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Did i say o line sux?
September 12th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Better start Satele back at Center because he will not be completely overwhelmed like Jared.
Jared is a FREAKIN TACKLE…not a starting Center in the the NFL!
Jared needs to be starting at RT, Satele at Center and Barnes at LT.
Also, since the O-Line will struggle….Hue needs to call more quick swing passes to WR’s on the outside….WR screens….RB screens and roll out plays to by Campbell or whoever the QB is more time to freakin throw!
Seems like I have been saying the same crap for 5 years…oh wait..I have! Oh vey!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Mario Henderson and Langston Walker played like girls out there!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
At least DMC shut some of you idiots up today….
September 12th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
they soiled their pink panties…
September 12th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
A huge oline and zone blocking scheme is a bad fit.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
If no trades or acquisitions happen then start this o-line.
Veldheer, Gallery, Satele, Walker, Bruce Campbell.
Now Satele sucks testicles, but at least the formations and snaps will be better.
Veldheer can be a good center eventually, but right now he is more useful as a tackle. Mario Henderson and Langston Walker are two of the worst tackles in the entire NFL.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
But on the flip side Big John Henderson played like a beast today. He was one of the few men amongst a lot of little girls dressed up in silver and black football uniforms.
Well lets see what changes if any happen in the next few days, and get ready for the St. Louis Lambs.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
We MUST improve on third down conversions!
There is no excuse for today’s embarrassing performance!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
From my wife: “I thought you said they were going to be better than they have been. Its just like the Raiders to get the fans all fired up and then come out and sh!t their pants.”
September 12th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Raider guy, Clean them, or let her clean them, and wake up tomorrow, and let her clean em again, how dare her!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
I will. I should get them cleaned up in time so they can do it again next week…
September 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
im a sad panda.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
We’re all on you’re side, bro, mines asleep, lol!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hard to blame Cable for the o-line being terrible. He works with what he has and what he has isn’t very good.
All you guys blaming him for the o-line are the same ones calling him a puppet that has no input on personnel, so I suppose you have a choice to make.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
OUT here, 9:45pm, might get lucky!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
wow surprise Mcfadden may change some minds about the way he plays.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Now, does everyone see that we need to bring Colt Brennan back!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Post #55 is dead on.
JC looks so slow in his reads, decision making, and moving in the pocket.
He really looked uncomfortable- hard not to when the Titans are punching you in the mouth 1 second after the snap.
One example of how discombobulated he was—
Early on Tennessee jumped pre-snap but got back in time. Then JC acts like the play is over and gets called for a delay of game.
That’s pee-wee crap. How do you not know that?
Bring in Bruce. I’m not over reacting, I don’t like JC.
Mark it down. He will have to prove me wrong.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
I know it’s not much consolation but after week 1 we have the same record as the Colts, Broncos, Niners, Eagles, and Vikings.
Our season isn’t even close to being over, but if we don’t fix that offensive line, it will be over real soon.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Why does our O-Line look like a deer in the headlights?!
Don’t they practice these plays during the week?
September 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
The 49ers getting whipped helps a little.
More than anything we don’t have to hear the snarky little comments, from their band-wagoning, un-football educated, piece of crap “fans”.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
The 49ers getting whipped helps a little.
More than anything we don’t have to hear the snarky little comments, from their band-wagoning, un-football educated, piece of crap “fans”.
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Man we 0-1! no forget the niners! we lost an afc conf matchuo but may face then at home in playoffs cuz texans winning that division like i thought….but stilllll dont go go 0-2
September 12th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
stl-hate to say it but you just described many of those who comment on here.
September 12th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I JUST WANT ALL REAL RAIDER MEN TO TO KNOW I WONT DIVE OFF FROM YOU…….IM HERE….WONT NEVER SHAKE FROM YA
September 12th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
yES……. LEFTY….WE GONNA BE JUST FINE
September 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I LOVE TH9S TEAM…WES STILL WINNING THE AFC WEST!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
I’m so pissed.
Nothing positive to take from today’s reality check.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Excuse me for making things seems better than what they are…..we fine! I was upset……but ik still expect afc west title…….no jumping from that
September 12th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Best play of today’s game:
The Mascot eating the cheerleader
I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Over the course of the previous week I stated my concerns with today’s game.
1) I made clear I did not understand why Yamon butterfingers is returning kicks when he made it apperent he can’t hold onto the ball. I suggested Rock Cartright, he may not be flashy and not really a threat to go all the way, but he can make it to the 30 yard line and most importantly HOLD onto the ball!
2)overall playcalling. Today for example I could not understand why the Raiders went for FG’s when they clearly needed more points, Why not go for it on 4th down when you are down by a ton? It just doesn’t seem like there was any confidence, I’ll even go so far as to say that by the middle of the 3rd quarter they weren’t even trying to win, just trying to make the score not look so bad on paper.
3)Jason Campbell’s intensity. he looked lifeless and uninspired. I figured after he got knocked around a few times he would yell at the line or give some sign of life, he looked like a zombie. I’m not going to sit here and pretend I’m on Grads bandwagon but I will say he at least shows some fire which Jason Campbell and the Raiders did not.
4)I was thinking Darren Mcfadden was going to be a let down today, I was wrong. He was the only sign of life on the Raiders, he ran with heart. I hope he can do it for 16 games.
5) I questioned not playing Veldeer in the final preseason game just to get him more reps. The guy hasn’t played center since high school! Why wouldn’t you get him more reps? Doesn’t make sense to me. I think Veldeer has potential and am not putting him down being it was his 1st real NFL games. I am just questioning Cable’s judgement to throw him into that situation. I understand the other option is nothing special but at least he can snap the ball.
I can say so much more but I am so frustrated with this team I will not bother. I predicted the Raiders would lose today but I genuinenly thought it would be close, What do I know? looks like the Same old Raiders to me.
I will end on a positive note and say maybe by some miracle this game is not what we can expect to see for the rest of the season and we get our act together! GO RAIDERS!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
# BigTed707 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
I’m so pissed.
Nothing positive to take from today’s reality check.
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Wasnt a reality checj,,,,,,oline man didnt even tru to show up……stl game better wake up……get carlisle out there
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
At least DMC shut some of you idiots up today….
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Already said this once in here. A large % of his yardage was gained on soft defensive schemes. Go back and watch again, I already have.
Let’s see if he can smash it North and South from scrimmage when D’s are playing it legit.
Saying that, it was good to see him do something for once.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I know O-Line was AWEFUL today. But Jason Campbell’s performance was GUTLESS and COWARDLY today. I’ve never seen a QB just kneel down on a busted play. He had scared eyes all game long. My Redskin fans had warned me of this exact thing about him: Lack of heart. Some have it, but most don’t.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Who will be a man and and show up next sunday?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
games over, put it behind us start focusing on the rams.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Me, you, Dave, Brad…etc,…dont bother with these crybabies bro, wasting your time.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
The same losers in here like MR, old kell, they will be the ones snivlin monday they didnt see the game,..because they chose not to go.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Wasnt a reality checj,,,,,,oline man didnt even tru to show up……stl game better wake up……get carlisle out there
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Do you really think that will make everything all better?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
The Titans defenitely bullied the Raiders today. As much as I had to admit it. The Raiders didn’t even put up much of a fight. They just kinda took it.
I would say Tenn was borderline dirty today. I believe they were flagged for four 15 yard personal fouls. They coulda been called for more. I thought they were taking a lot of late hit cheap shots on Raiders on the ground. Especially McFadden. There were numerous times when he’d be tackled, already down, when a defender would fly in late and drill him. One time dude even appeared to try and club him in the head with a forearm.
That is supposed to be the RAIDERS style of play. They are not supposed to be on the receiving end. lol.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Props to you Nbob, you called it and i called you on it…You know you ish….
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Raiders did Not dominate the line of scrimmage (either side);
Raiders had two turnover to Titans one;
Raiders gave up more than one big play for touchdowns (3 total)
Raiders got their a$$ whooped.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I wonder if Loper can play RG? And BCampbell has to start getting some reps, Walker and Carlysle have to go.
And seriously, get a blocking tight end…Really Hue/Tom/Al, Khalif Barnes as a tight end, at least have the possibility that the tight end is going to run up field for a pass. Makes it too easy for the LB to tee off and rush up field.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Well I knew how it would go down, one team is clearly better then they other,..but its a long season, dont quit now dude.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Its okay……………. wake up…..olime lost this game
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Who will be a man and and show up next sunday?
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The whole team puts this game behind them, we bounce back in the home opener for a nice win…
September 12th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
oline*
September 12th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
uninspired play
September 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
ucla-couldn’t agree more.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
it begins and ends with the oline. If they wanna be b$@#% slapped all game then that is their personality. I just thought that as men they would have some pride…
September 12th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
edward teach Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hard to blame Cable for the o-line being terrible. He works with what he has and what he has isn’t very good.
All you guys blaming him for the o-line are the same ones calling him a puppet that has no input on personnel, so I suppose you have a choice to make.
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Have to disagree Teach,
Cable hand picked these guys.
Barnes was a LT before he got here. Cable says he a RT/RG
Veldheer was a LT, now he a Center.
L Walker was a RG. Now he a RT
B Campbell was a LT, now he’s a RG
Satele still a center, just a bad choice like Kwame Harris.
Henderson was unmotivated and is now paired with an unmotivated Coach. The only time he played well was when Kiffin was fired and said Mario was a bust on his way out to Tennessee. That has since worn off and he is back to normal.
Al Davis didn’t pick these Linemen, Cable did. Even if Al did pick them, no way he would do that knowing Cable would convert them to a new position once they put on the Silver N Black.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Buckeye, I agree
Titans penalties were personal foul penalties, even though they are for 15 yds, they set a tone;
Raider’s penalties are for stupidiot penalties for 5-10 yds,that kill our offense and/or give life to our opponents’ and a pass interference, that was interference, Mr. Branch hit him long before the ball reached, instead of going to knock the ball down, Tyvon coulda, shoulda stepped in front and gone for the interception would have been an interception for a TD
September 12th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I just thought that as men they would have some pride…
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Not sure the Raiders know the definition. I watched every snap today, I only saw one team want to win.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
today was bad……dont inspire much heh
September 12th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Props to you Nbob, you called it and i called you on it…You know you ish….
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Yeah, props Bob – I thought you were full of it, but I stand corrected.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I would not be surprised, nor sad if Mario gets cut.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
The only (non) call I thought came at a really crucial time in the game was when Campbell had his head ripped off and the the refs didn’t throw a flag.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
games over, put it behind us start focusing on the rams.
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that game was over at the first play when yamon fumbled. it was over faster than i was when i got my first peace of a$$….and boy was that fast man….
September 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Branch played great up to that correctly called pass interference call, Raiders need to put those behind them and go after them the very next play.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I will be full of it next sunday too,..full of Hennessy, beer, pot, pills, tequila,..barbeque…heavy metal…oh ya.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
from twitter…
Jerrymcd
Tom Cable is now 9-20 as Raiders head coach. Of those 20 losses, 11 have been by 3 TDs or more by combined 376-98 (avg score 34-8)
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sad
September 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
glutten that was funny as hell
September 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I would not be surprised, nor sad if Mario gets cut
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or the whole line line minus Gallery
September 12th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Fire coach Cable, somebody hire a billboard
September 12th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
it was over faster than i was when i got my first peace of a$$….and boy was that fast
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lol to funny!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Hoestly I wouldnt care if Cable was fired tomorrow,..only two good things hes ever done is break that snitch`s jaw, and slap around that ex pig of his,..they both deserved it,..(so did OJ`s wife)…but who do you make head coach?…Hue?…doubt it.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Mr. Vehldeer blocks, he only had a half a preseason game to prep as a center in the NFL, he actually may be our best center and our best left tackle, just inexperienced at the NFL level at both .
September 12th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
have to disagree 504.davis is famous for having guys change positions.in fact,one week veldheer was working as lt then he was moved to center.classic davis move.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
I agree with looking foward to next weeks game and putting this behind us. I hope the Raiders do the same.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Bring back Ryan to head coach, Al’s probably wishing he had, or hire Vikings’ def coor., Frazier.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Hoestly I wouldnt care if Cable was fired tomorrow,..only two good things hes ever done is break that snitch`s jaw, and slap around that ex pig of his,..they both deserved it,..(so did OJ`s wife)…but who do you make head coach?…Hue?…doubt it.
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BAUCE
September 12th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Hoestly I wouldnt care if Cable was fired tomorrow,..only two good things hes ever done is break that snitch`s jaw, and slap around that ex pig of his,..they both deserved it,..(so did OJ`s wife)…but who do you make head coach?…Hue?…doubt it.
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BAUCE
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I’m sure you wouldn’t do any worse, maybe you can light a fire under these guys butts!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Damn strait.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Well the NFL season is underway
The Raiders get smoked.
The NFL season is officially over
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Biggest question is who annointed Cable an O-Line Guru?
There have been only two QBs look good behind a Cable-led O-Line:
1. Mike Vick
2. Bruce Gradkowski
Both guys are mobile and use their feet to buy them time to find WRs or run for yards. You can argue that both don’t really need a good O-Line to move chains and make plays.
Now lets look at the Pocket Passers who stand behind Cable’s Lines:
McCown, Russell, Frye, Walter, Campbell.
Bruce Gradkowski is our best chance to win now and for the rest of the season.
Don’t spew that “it’s Jackson’s offense.” It’s Cable’s Line.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
HBush,
Don’t get me wrong. In no way am I saying that any call or noncall affected the outcome of that game. Not trying to pin that on the refs at all.
I’m just saying the Titans were the aggressors today. They took it to Oakland, and the Raiders had no answer.
I’m just noting they were called for four personal fouls and it coulda been more.
The PI on Branch was the right call. Didn’t thinks so live. Thought he made a good break on ball. Then they showed the replay and it was obviously PI.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Jason Campbell sucks. His check downs were awful. His awareness was awful. That slide when he could’ve had a first down, was a b!tch move.
Mario Henderson is a loser, nuff said
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
i wont count them out yet, but it smeels like the same ol sh!t ive been smelling for the better part of a decade now. GET A GM OL MAN ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
only team that was worse were the whiners on the other side of the bay, they got stomped by their division opponent the seagals
September 12th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
that and my ffl team, congrats p-rame
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Aight’ Nation! Thanks for co-miserating with me.
Hopefully next week we’ll show some improvement.
Go Raiders (1-1)!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Raider’s season is on the line next week in the colosium.
Black Hole you may need to take our Raiders inside, just to let them know to be fired up for every play.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Well Cable is a major fuktard but so are most of you!
I been saying for 5+ years Jano is garbage, and he is.
I told you Routt was good or better than CJ and he is.
I told you H Jackson has done nothing in the NFL as OC
Not 1 complaint in here about L Murphy’s alligator arms.
Of course DMAC had a nice game. Fargas wasn’t here to take his snaps. DMAC produced behind the NFL’s worst O-line, imagine DMAC running behind Tenn’s O-line…dangerous!
Hey Marshall, do we need to mix in a occasional blitz?
AL, what legacy you had 15 years ago is all but gone!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I’m just saying the Titans were the aggressors today. They took it to Oakland, and the Raiders had no answer
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I totally agree! I was under the impression this preseason that guys like Houston, ShoNAsty, Seymour and a trim T.Kelly that we would be the more aggresive team.
Today I was wrong, Hopefully the upcoming weeks will be different.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
if the same team shows up the next couple of weeks cable will be doomed,but if anyone thinks hue will be the savior they have their heads stuck where the sun doesn’t shine.so far he has shown nothing to warrant such optimism.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Jason Campbell sucks. His check downs were awful. His awareness was awful. That slide when he could’ve had a first down, was a b!tch move
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He reminds me of a stripper-DEAD EYES
September 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Marshall needs to do what he did against the eagles last year, call his defensive game, no matter what Al says, the worst that could happen to him his he gets set fre..eerr fired.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
I imagine tickets for the SL game next Sunday are going like hotcakes! Phone lines are buzzzing! Switchboard is lit up!
SL is dialing up blitz packages as I type in this pathetic blog!
Worst O-line in NFL history brought to you by Tom Cable.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Well Cable is a major fuktard but so are most of you!
I been saying for 5+ years Jano is garbage, and he is.
I told you Routt was good or better than CJ and he is.
I told you H Jackson has done nothing in the NFL as OC
Not 1 complaint in here about L Murphy’s alligator arms.
Of course DMAC had a nice game. Fargas wasn’t here to take his snaps. DMAC produced behind the NFL’s worst O-line, imagine DMAC running behind Tenn’s O-line…dangerous!
Hey Marshall, do we need to mix in a occasional blitz?
AL, what legacy you had 15 years ago is all but gone!
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To call Jano garbage after a tough game today is a little extreme.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Lefty how did you like DHB’s performance?
You were the blogger last year that told me DHB had a solid outing after a game which he went 0 catches for 0 yards!
tj, how about those still photos of DHB?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Defense was aggresive and played well up to the TD run by the backup, Ringer. Before that only Young’s scramble and trick play garnered any offense and scoring.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Here is a statement is may take some heat for, but I have to make it……
Tyvon Branch
Tyvon is a scrub. Single handedly responsible for 3 different TD’s. Yes, the play in which Routt got burnt, Branch should have been helping. Routt’s reaction proved this.
Branch can not Tackle, I repeat, can NOT tackle. Yes, he had huge tackling numbers last season, but that is because he was on the field for more than 200 more plays ( look it up) than the next closest DB in tackles. Hell, I’d have more tackles than Ray Lewis if I was on the filed for 1000 more plays. Branch is not a SS.
We would be better off with MM at SS. Someone who isn’t going to bounce off running backs, or completely whiff.
For all the talk about MM lacking ability in coverage, I think last year and this year( so far) proves that Branch isn’t exactly killing it in coverage. Aside from his pursuit tackles, this guy is garbage. A rising star my a$$. 3 touchdowns he was responsible for, THREE 333333333333333333333333333333333333. PLAY MIKE MITCHELL
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
HairyBush,
Jano has been garbage his entire career. He has plunked more goal post and hooked more kicks than any kicker I have ever seen. Does he have alot of “makes” yes but he can miss from 40 just as easily as he can miss from 25 or 50.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Worst O-line in NFL history brought to you by Tom Cable.
no, brought to u by AL DAVIS….
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
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WTF were you watching? Branch played great. Did you see him leave Routt hanging on the 1st TD? Did you see him bounce off/ whiff on the Johnson long TD. How about the other TD he was in coverage for. Yes, Tyvon Branch played great, so didn’t Jason Campbell, Mario henderson, Langston Walker, Cooper Carlisle.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
How many times has Trevor Scott lined up in the neutral zone in recent games? Dude gets at least one a game
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I just traded Kolb for Arian Foster in my FF league.
Foster ran for 230 yards and 3 TDs and Kolb got a concussion today.
I love it.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Young’s scramble and trick play garnered any offense and scoring.
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It doesn’t change the fact that they scored. Scoring is scoring in my book. It would almost be like the Raiders trying to say if C.Johnson didn’t have that big run they would have done a decent job of holding him. The point is he got the big run so it really doesn’t matter how many times they held him to short gains. Just like it doesn’t matter how the Titans scored, they did.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Glutten,
I’m not going to argue that but T Cable is a meathead. Davis isnt going to fire himself so the next best thing is for Cable to get fired so we can start the off season cirus now!
I dont want to watch 15 more weeks of this garbage I want the offseason drama to begin now because we have no entertainment on the field.
The end.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
yeah, where is male cheerleader with his 9erz whup whup stupid sh!t now?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
HairyBush,
Jano has been garbage his entire career. He has plunked more goal post and hooked more kicks than any kicker I have ever seen. Does he have alot of “makes” yes but he can miss from 40 just as easily as he can miss from 25 or 50.
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I doubt there are more than 5 kickers you would take over him. I will say that when Jano misses, it is usually in dramatic fashion and that is probaly why it sticks out in your head. Overall he is not a bad kicker and most of the time gives the Raiders an oppurtunity to score from afar.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Yeah where is she-he?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Jano & Murphy get a free ride in this god for saken blog but NOT from me.
Murphy is a pu$$y! He has no stones to go over the middle or fight for the ball in the air. J Ford needs to be inactive along with Figurs. What a FK’n circus!
Starting a rookie @ C who has never played C…hey Cable pre-season is over!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
DHB has all that so called speed and I have never seen him sent straight down the field for a BOMB!
tj, how about those “still” photos you were looking at?
September 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Jano & Murphy get a free ride in this god for saken blog but NOT from me.
Murphy is a pu$$y! He has no stones to go over the middle or fight for the ball in the air. J Ford needs to be inactive along with Figurs. What a FK’n circus!
Starting a rookie @ C who has never played C…hey Cable pre-season is over!
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Agree with you on Veldeer
Figurs= CFL
I don’t know what your beef is with Murphy, He is our best wideout. I watched every snap today. The pass that came to him over the middle wasn’t that great. He had a screen thrown to him that was doomed before it left Campbells hand. Let’s face it none of the wideouts were involved today.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
How do you know Murphy won’t fight for a ball. He has to have one thrown to him in order to fight for it. I think Campbell finally decided to throw the ball downfield mid 3rd quarter. Sure Murphy could’ve scored on that one to the end zone, but the defender got his finger tips on it. Point is, how can you blame Murphy for anything. The qb had no interest in throwing the ball beyond 4 yards, and when he did, it wasn’t all that accurate. Take out the 3 and 4 yard checkdowns ( before yac) and you’re looking at <40% completions. Maybe less than 20%.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
DHB has all that so called speed and I have never seen him sent straight down the field for a BOMB!
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I said the same thing
September 12th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I can no longer post:
False start # 74 offense 5 yard penalty repeat 3rd down
So………. It’ll be
Offsides # 91 defense lined up in the neutral zone 5 yard penalty resulting in a 1st down
September 12th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
177 hairy bush
I agree. Murphy didn’t do anything wrong. Campbell seemed afraid to throw the ball down field.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Murphy is on a short leash with me. You guys can continue to prop him up but he is on my radar.
Know who else is on my radar?
Jerry McDonalds & Fatt Runt!
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
By the way…
My account was banned for about a week until I went around it. The first thing out Fat Kids mouth when I returned was “I thought you were banned”.
That same night Fat Kidd says he was eating dinner with Jerry.
Today Jerry checks out and the end of the game and within minutes Fat Kidd copies & pastes his usual retarded garbage. Not 1 post from Fat Mope during the game but Jerry checks out and here he comes!
No doubt Jerry was a fat kid, its not like he ballooned up 1 year ago. Jerry has a knucklehead sense of humor like Fat Kidd, do the math!
And here I am Fat Runt/Jerry around your ban and posting real stuff not copy & pasting boring garbage like you.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
I Don’t know if it was because the Raiders were playing on the east coast with a 3 hour time difference, but Campbell and the Raiders looked like they were sleeping today. (Except DMAC)
September 12th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
NE Raider, I agree Branch played horrific, his PI set up the Titan’s first score, AFTER that he allowed for the CJ run, it was reminiscent of Gore’s run over Huff just 2-3 weeks ago, and Branch was the reason the Titans scored on that trick play, not Routt, but before that PI, which led to above mentioned TD and the other 2 TDs, Branch was tackling and hitting its as if he lost it after the PI call.
September 12th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
is it me, or is Scott lined up in the neutral zone a little too often????
Oh and when Trevor tripped over the Hash Marks, that was awesome. And I thought he was going to play end exclusively. Why was he defending a TE while LB’s were rushing in? Scott can not cover. He is too damn big. He is a DE. Period. The experiment at LB should be over.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Oh and when Trevor tripped over the Hash Marks, that was awesome
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He was doing his best DMAC impression lol
(except today)
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, I know you’re reading.
This time last year you said all JaMeatloaf needed was C Schillens in the lineup to get it rolling! Whats going to be your spin this week?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
I loved the phantom block on T.Kelly
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
DMAC played well today, even though his longest run was on a 2nd and 25, he ran hard, caught the ball, fought to score, he hustled and held onto the football, all this behind the worst offensive line in the NFL.
Should Bush not be 100% next week our run game will be okay.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
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Was the PI that early. I was so p!ssed off watching. It is like the same thing over and over. Man, Campbell had me screaming at my tv.
My bad if the PI call was before that. I might have the chronology mixed up. I’m just not sold on Branch.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
- Oline was pitiful today. Were dominated so thoroughly that they made the offense a negative factor. Henderson, Walker especially awful.
- Was not at all impressed with Campbell. No veteran presence to speak of. It really could have been JRuss back there. He better improve against Rams at home.
- Big plays once again killed the defense. Ok at times, but once again they break way too often.
- Questioned Figures returning both kicks/punts, Veldheer at C, Routte at CB, Scott at DE…none had positive impact on game.
- Same old Raiders so far. They have a lot to prove next weekend. If they can’t beat, and even dominate in some areas, a Rams team with a rookie QB in his first road start then it will be a LONG season. Everyone needs to step up their game.
One Nation Baby…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
HairyBush Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
I Don’t know if it was because the Raiders were playing on the east coast with a 3 hour time difference, but Campbell and the Raiders looked like they were sleeping today. (Except DMAC)
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i think it was the vaginnna between there legs is what happened
September 12th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
I didnt like what campbell did either especially the first chickenbleep slide that was a yard short.But I remember when simeon rice smoked barry sims early and hit gannon immediately and they said gannon didnt feel secure the rest of that game. how can campbell be expected to feel secure behingd this crap oline..yeah you can scream and yell for grads but i remember that turnstyle henderson gettin him killed last year as well…we go as the oline goes…bottom line
September 12th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Here is a statement is may take some heat for, but I have to make it……
Tyvon Branch
Tyvon is a scrub. Single handedly responsible for 3 different TD’s. Yes, the play in which Routt got burnt, Branch should have been helping. Routt’s reaction proved this.
Branch can not Tackle, I repeat, can NOT tackle. Yes, he had huge tackling numbers last season, but that is because he was on the field for more than 200 more plays ( look it up) than the next closest DB in tackles. Hell, I’d have more tackles than Ray Lewis if I was on the filed for 1000 more plays. Branch is not a SS.
We would be better off with MM at SS. Someone who isn’t going to bounce off running backs, or completely whiff.
For all the talk about MM lacking ability in coverage, I think last year and this year( so far) proves that Branch isn’t exactly killing it in coverage. Aside from his pursuit tackles, this guy is garbage. A rising star my a$$. 3 touchdowns he was responsible for, THREE 333333333333333333333333333333333333. PLAY MIKE MITCHELL
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EXACTLY !!!!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
i think it was the vaginnna between there legs is what happened
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yeah, sounds like sand in the vag to me
September 12th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Tenn looked like they were in the backfield as the ball was snapped 3 or 4 times too many without a flag. Mario had a horrible game but dam if those guys have a running start and pass him by as the ball is being snapped thats a tough task for anybody.
JC was demoralized by the end of the 1st quarter. A hopeless situation with this O-line that Cable has been managing for 5 years now!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
194
I agree with you. However, at times, albeit very few, Campbell had time to throw the ball, and he seemingly froze up. Also, too many balls batted down at the line. Two of them looked like he purposely threw the ball at the defenders face mask.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
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Jhill, am I wrong?????? You’re not being sarcastic are you? I really believe Branch was responsible for 3 td’s
September 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
oh and guess what guys??????????? if we tank it only helps NE and so no LT in the draft in round 1. GOOOOO ALLLLLLL DAAAAAAAVIS
September 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
MM34 can’t cover himself with a blanket nevermind the opposition’s tight end/wideout/RB
September 12th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
JC was demoralized by the end of the 1st quarter. A hopeless situation with this O-line
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Stop making excuses for the QB!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
No blitzing, no misdirection, and the worst left offensive tackle in football.
And the ridiculous three man rush…
This team never changes.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Tenn looked like they were in the backfield as the ball was snapped 3 or 4 times too many without a flag. Mario had a horrible game but dam if those guys have a running start and pass him by as the ball is being snapped thats a tough task for anybody.
JC was demoralized by the end of the 1st quarter. A hopeless situation with this O-line that Cable has been managing for 5 years now!
………………..i thought you were banned again?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
mike vick looks pretty good right now AL. why not trade our 2012 1st for him too.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
NE,
Been saying that all day!
Can’t believe some people are actually saying that first TS was on Routt. We were in a COVER 2 for crying out loud!
Terrapin was on here earlier on his Huff sucks rant, and I was like what?!?!?!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
I wonder if with the new rules as to where the ref is positioned behing the QB, if there will be more false starts called than off sides. just sayin
September 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
any word on the injuries, the only two I’m actually concerned about are Gallery’s & especially Seymour’s, the others as long as they can still run and play with their grandchildren years from now…well…Stevie Brown get your agent on the phone today even if he’s a Baptist, hopefully though he’s Jewish, his/her sabbath ended yesterday and you’ll get a better contract.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Random thought, do you think the Raiders will issue a press release congratulating Darrius Heyward-Bey on his 10th career reception?
“Heyward-Bey reached a milestone Sunday becoming the 397th player in Raider history to catch 10 passes for his career. Soon he will join the ranks of Alworth, Wells, Branch, Biletnikoff, Brown and Rice among the all time great Silver and Black wideouts.”
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Jill,
Its a fact not an excuse. Just because you sucked on Russell’s teets for the last 3 years dont ignore reality.
If JC turns out to be garbage i’ll be the first to say it. I just cant watch this O-line and criticize the guy.
Those slides are another story. That is flat out unacceptable!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
MM34 can’t cover himself with a blanket nevermind the opposition’s tight end/wideout/RB
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Agreed, but he doesn’t miss tackles.
No way should he be a S in the cover 2. Point is we need to STOP running the cover 2 zone D!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Fat Kidd you seem to know about bans as they happen. How is that?
Deja Vu.
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# MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
By the way…
My account was banned for about a week until I went around it. The first thing out Fat Kids mouth when I returned was “I thought you were banned”.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Titans Dline quick off the snap, I noticed that too, could be Vehldeer’s tipping his snap, I don’t really know either way, just a thought.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Jerry, dont you have something better to do than ban me?
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# fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
………………..i thought you were banned again?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Ghostthatwashillariustenwow.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Titans Dline quick off the snap, I noticed that too, could be Vehldeer’s tipping his snap, I don’t really know either way, just a thought
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interesting thought, i’m going to watch the game again
September 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
J Hill
Sorry. Just logged on and didn’t read through.
I’m not going to get into a pissing contest about whether MM34 can or can not cover. We have not seen whether he can or can’t. We have seen Branch though, and he can’t.
Everybody says ” Mitchell can’t cover”. He doesn’t get enough playing time to make an accurate assessment. If he can’t cover fine, but lets see it on the field. Aside from the Washington game last year, and a couple of small gains in the Baltimore game, I didn’t see Mitchell getting burned for big plays, or any plays at all. Aside from the 2 against Bali in which resulted in less than 25 yards for Ravens. And the one against Washington I think was Nnamdi’s fault. but I digress
September 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Fat Kidd you seem to know about bans as they happen. How is that?
Deja Vu.
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Inside Information
September 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
198 there is no doubt he froze up but im hoping he can get better protection going forward…2 things…that ford guy was definitely offsides on that play… i was going nuts…and tennessee’s defense is no-name but they are more than legit..they will beat up more than their share of o lines this year..maybe playing some weaker d lines over the next few weeks will help our poor lil o line to grow up and get confidence..i crack up when they show the size of these guys but they play like lil league
September 12th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Fat Kidd you seem to know about bans as they happen. How is that?
Deja Vu.
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Inside Information
……………….i am from palm springs and your not get it.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Jerry, you are Fat Kidd. You were a fat kid as a child and now your a fat adult and your little play moniker is Fat Kidd. You have the same 12 year old sense of humor as Fat Runt and you are one in the same.
Go ahead and ban me again pinhead.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I’m just tired of seeing our safeties bouncing off runners and totally whiffing on tackles leading to big gains. Give me a safety, a SS that can TACKLE. SS shouldn’t be asked to cover all that much anyway. If you’re going to put Hi Eugene out there, may as well give MM a shot. Funny he was playing at the end, when they thought Tennessee was going to keep on running.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Somewhere, deep in Alabama, Jamarcus is sippin “purple drank” and laughing his ass off.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Hi Al, my 10yr old daughter would like to know if she could start next week at M. Hendersons spot.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Im not get it?
You illiterate hack!
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# fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Inside Information
……………….i am from palm springs and your not get it.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Gradkowski will be starting by the end of the year.
And Cable is toast.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
MistaBrown,
Fact of the matter is you’re making excuses for the QB. This is a better Oline than YOUR boy JaMeatloaf had and Campbell looked WORSE!
I’ve seen enough!
Your boy Jacheckdown Campbell is not even a slimmer version of Russell. No pass to Zach Miller until midway through the 3rd qtr????
He’s terrible. And a win vs the lambs next week will mean NOTHING!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
JaMarcus in Houston. Ironically where the Purple Drank was invented (or made famous).
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Im not get it?
……………yeah i get it now wash my car..
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
God for bid we play a meaningfull game and have to depend on Jano the hook Kowski for a 40 yard field goal.
I would take my chances with 25 other kickers in this league!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
night to all
September 12th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
If JC turns out to be garbage i’ll be the first to say it.
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LOL!
More like the 1,000,001th person to say it.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
LMFAO JaCheckdown.. LO fuggin L
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
This O-line is better than last years or the previous two?
Get the FK out of my face Jill!
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J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
MistaBrown,
Fact of the matter is you’re making excuses for the QB. This is a better Oline than YOUR boy JaMeatloaf had and Campbell looked WORSE!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I would take my chances with 25 other kickers in this league!
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I’m with you on the porky pollock!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Kirk Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Gradkowski will be starting by the end of the year.
And Cable is toast.
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If it takes that long, New England will be picking #1.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Jerry take your fat lazy arse to bed!
Brilliant commentary during the game too! Your DSL line was out of service and your cell signal was in & out?
LMFAO you probably dont even own a car!
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# fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Im not get it?
……………yeah i get it now wash my car..
September 12th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Ok, you are not 100% brain dead then!
Good 2 know..
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# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I’m with you on the porky pollock!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Get the FK out of my face Jill!
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LOL!
Look who’s melting down already. Mr I never name call is already at it.
LOLOLOLOL!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
It was rather disgusting that Campbell wouldn’t even throw it down the field. I’m guessing considering his lack of accuracy it was a good idea to checkdown. Especially when it was 4th and 10 and he threw a 3rd pass. This QB is an idiot. We’ve seen it in Washington. That slide down soured me to this guy. Absolutely brutal
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Jill does calling you Jill really constitute “melting down” ?
Please…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
NE,
Been saying that all day!
Can’t believe some people are actually saying that first TS was on Routt. We were in a COVER 2 for crying out loud!
Terrapin was on here earlier on his Huff sucks rant, and I was like what?!?!?!
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No no no JHill, we’re referrin to very different plays. Huff did blow. So did Branch.
1st play from scrimmage Huff was out of position and looked lost as VY ran right by him for some good yardage. A long run by CJ, Huff was in the wrong position again on the crowded side of the play. He did make some nice plays however, still, the guy is regressing if he actually ever progressed from last year.
Now the Branch plays …maybe the long CJ play was the same play Huff was out of position that Branch missed the tackle, can’t remember. But Branch was to blame as noted above. It was not on Routt that play, Branch fell in the grass (maybe he was lost as he was still late) ..I saw this on the replay.
etc, etc.
The CBs (Nnam and Routt) didn’t play bad; but the Safties did.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
louis nurphy is our best reciever and need to get him the ball more.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Henderson-Gallery-Veldheer-Carlisle-Walker
or
Henderson-Morris-Satele-Carlisle-Green
Yeah Mista, I’d say the Oline has better players on it NOW than it did last year.
Oh, and the WRs are SECOND YEAR starters as opposed to rookies, and JLH is healthy.
And Jacheckdown Campbell STILL looked worse!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
@240
Yep, that kind of says it all.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I agree the play at safety was very disappointing. Play MM34.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Go watch Sesame Street.
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# fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
louis nurphy is our best reciever
September 12th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
That Jacheckdown is killing me. Classic
September 12th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Skins and Cows down to final play.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Jill does calling you Jill really constitute “melting down” ?
Please…
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Certainly Mr I never call anyone out of there name.
Mr I never do anything but talk football until Priest picks on me, lol.
Your football talk went right out the window AS USUAL real quick, lol.
Bottom line is most people saw it one way for a guy who has been in the league for how long?
A guy who couldn’t be given away by the Redskins????
You need to see more from Campbell before you will be the FIRST to say it? FIRST ?!?!?!??
Get your head outta your arsse!
The pass to Murphy was OVERTHROWN, but you need another week? Just like you wanted JaMeatloaf to start the rest of the year?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
next week is a home game the real o/c will be calling plays from the owners booth.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I hate being right all the time…
No..really…I do.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
man the dalls wash game good game…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
9erz whup whup. got whupped whupped. Where is the cheerleader?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Good night fellas. Keep the fighting to a minimum, most of us are Raiders fans.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
And the Titans HAD to be offsides a number of times. The jumps they were gettin on the ball was flat out ridiculous!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
new englandraider Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
9erz whup whup. got whupped whupped. Where is the cheerleader?
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Yeah that was funny schit, he disapeared quite quickly though…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Richochet Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I hate being right all the time…
No..really…I do.
………….mistabrown hates being wrong all the time!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Terrapin,
We’re on the same page. Didn’t mean to rehash the S debate. Was just bringing my man up to speed on our earlier convo.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Team needs to regroup oline changes are in order. not sure grads does any better in this situation…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Jill, my football talk went out the window? I think I pretty much covered everything from Jano, Murphy, Cable, DHB, O-line, DMAC, Routt, and Figurs.
I take it back maybe you are 100% brain dead regardless of the Jano agreement.
I also covered Fat Runt/Jerry being one in the same. What have yo done besides suck Russells teets even though he is long gone?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Wow! At least we knew it was over at halftime. Dallas though they won. Then lost. All in a 3 second span.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Fat McRunt shouldn’t you be begging your MOD to ban me?
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# fat kidd Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
………….mistabrown hates being wrong all the time!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
“This O-line is the best we’ve had in 5 years”
Sincerely
Jill
September 12th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Jill, my football talk went out the window?
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Yup!
What was your last post that was football related between me and you?
The minute someone disagreed with you, football talk went out the window, and your clown attempts at comedy surfaced.
Fact – MistaBrown called for Russell to start the whole year. Said he was the best QB on the team.
Fact – MistaBrown needs to see more from Jacheckdown. Thought he did well considering the circumstances.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
It’s Official Raiders, do NOT have the worst offensive line in the NFL, the Cowboys do…a blatant hold (twice in one play by the same player), by the RT that cost the Cowboys the game-winning touchdown as time expired.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Fact – Mistabrown thinks Henderson-Morris-Satele-Carlise-Green was an Oline that needed no changes.
LMFAO!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
just a bad outing ..simple as that. hopefully they rebound. but i’m not having my hopes to high for this.
campbell did not show himself well today (not that he had much he could do from the laying down position) but even when given the chance he failed.
that slide totally deflated us. i was shocked! you would never make it as a raider if you have no guts no desire no heart. thats the raider heritage the raider tradition (not as of late however).
cable is a terrible head coach. the guys out of his league. only todd haley is worse.
THIS IS HIS OLINE!!!! and it was the worst performer today.
goodnight
September 12th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Bring back Chris Morris
- Mista Brown
September 12th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Do you hear that?
The sound of a phone ringing, fans looking for tickets for next week, and following weeks, preventing the ever present, seemingly endless blackouts for home games??
I don’t either.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Cornbread Green = Stud
- MistaBrown
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Now your putting words in my mouth. Is this also a called a meltdown?
Jill, your telling me Veldeer & Walker was an upgrade?
LMFAO!
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# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Fact – Mistabrown thinks Henderson-Morris-Satele-Carlise-Green was an Oline that needed no changes.
LMFAO!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
All Jacheckdown Campbell needs is a better Oline
- MistaBrown
September 12th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Jill, when you can get nowhere with me just start making up things I never said.
Oh wait…
September 12th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Now your putting words in my mouth.
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You didn’t really post that did you.
Not right after your best Oline in 5 years crack.
Right up there with I never call anyone names first, lol!
September 12th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
just start making up things I never said.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Jill what name am I calling you?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Well Dallas lost their first game and almost everyone has them picked to go to the Superbowl. And I doubt everyone will jump off of their bandwagon now.
Just saying there’s a lot of football left, but we need to completely revamp that offensive line to have a legit chance at anything.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
This O-line is better than last years or the previous two?
Get the FK out of my face Jill!
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I may be reading between the lines here but gawd damn if this post FROM YOU doesn’t say you like last years Oline better than this years.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Armchair,
Dallas made a game of it. Something we did not do. Did you watch the game?
Do you see the difference or is your head up your anus like Jill’s ?
September 12th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Jill what name am I calling you?
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Don’t worry about it Mrs Brown.
I know you are suffering from early dementia.
September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Mrs Brown
How many more games does Jacheckdown get before you give you blessing to move on?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Here are the folks who came closest to predicting the correct score….
BART Bridge Blues ===============> Titans 34-27
Dakota ==========================> Titans 31-21
HairyBush =======================> Titans 24-21
Jmello21 ========================> Titans 21-17
Just Fire Baby ==================> Titans 24-13
Kirk ============================> Titans 24-17
La Milicia Negra ================> Titans 31-17
Norco Bob =======================> Titans 44-13
Raiders22 =======================> Titans 24-13
Stabler76 =======================> Titans 30-10
Stoopidmike =====================> Titans 27-13
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
No, you must be able to first read to go between the lines. You said this years O-line is better than last years. That is the dumbest thing I’ve read here since Fat Runt posted. How you watch todays game and say this O-line is better than previous is beyond me.
Go ahead and try and put more words in my mouth you Russell teet sucker!
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J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
MistaBrown,
Fact of the matter is you’re making excuses for the QB. This is a better Oline than YOUR boy JaMeatloaf had and Campbell looked WORSE!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Mario needs to stop spending his free time in the tattoo chair and get is ass a conditioning coach…
all that time you spent getting ‘inked up’ you could have got some agility training to help w/ those heavy feet you’ve got.Maybe then he’d be able to move a little quicker when the ball is snapped.
Guy stands there like a freakin’ statue w// the DE running past him, or looking down at a fumble as it’s picked up by the other team…
c’mon man, you’re a starting left tackle in the NFL, please start playing like one!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Jill I wont condemn any Qb with this O-line and these WR’s.
So probably not in 2010.
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# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Mrs Brown
How many more games does Jacheckdown get before you give you blessing to move on?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MistaBrownstainsonyourtightywhiteys:
Get your panties out of a bunch. Dallas scored less points than we did and they are picked by many to go to the SB.
I’m not saying that we are a better team than Dallas, I’m simply saying that a loss is a loss. Whether it’s by 3 points or 30. Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.
In last years season opener we beat up the Chargers for 55 minutes, and still found a way to lose. And the fact that we almost beat them didn’t result in us having a successful season.
Get some more fiber in your diet bro. You’re too full of hot air.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Was anyone else hoping for a Bruce Almighty sighting? I was — by the end of the 1st quarter before things even got out of control.
I’m not trying to pin too much on Campbell. Obviously the o-line was probably the biggest disaster. Well, that or the obvious, total disorganization and generally flat, lost play of the team — which is a reflection of poor coaching.
Campbell would be a decent QB on a loaded team with great o-line and running game that only needs a caretaker at QB. Think Trent Dilfer’s Ravens, Kerry Collins of the ‘08 Titans, etc. But Campbell’s not making things happen on his own and I don’t see him inspiring anyone else with his play.
The slide on the 3rd-down run when even a moderately easy dive would’ve picked up a 1st down was one of the saddest plays I’ve ever seen as a Raider fan.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
504 raider says…
Cable hand picked these guys.
Barnes was a LT before he got here. Cable says he a RT/RG
Veldheer was a LT, now he a Center.
L Walker was a RG. Now he a RT
B Campbell was a LT, now he’s a RG
Satele still a center, just a bad choice like Kwame Harris.
Henderson was unmotivated and is now paired with an unmotivated Coach. The only time he played well was when Kiffin was fired and said Mario was a bust on his way out to Tennessee. That has since worn off and he is back to normal.
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Im extremely angry about today. Enough is enough. This is not one of those days when you persevere and try to go back to the drawing boards etc. Cable and OL coach need to be fired immediately. We’ve put up with 2+ seasons of this under Cable/Michalczik. Also Cable’s 9-20 record of losses by 3 TDs or more should mean be the end today.
I want blood today.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Does he need to yoke up like all the other cut & ripped O-line in the league? You twit..
Its called technique! Thats what he is missing!
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VanHeathen Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Mario needs to stop spending his free time in the tattoo chair and get is ass a conditioning coach…
September 12th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Campbell shouldn’t have started the 2nd half, he wasn’t the same after the closeline sack that Mario whiffed on…btw; thought blows to the QB’s helemt was a penalty, probably a ‘no call’ for the questionable diving at the knees call he got the previous series…
Why aren’t we helping Mario out w/ a te? one that isn’t a reserve lineman?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Jill,
I guess Chris didnt get the memo you sent out about this O-line being outstanding compared to last years!
lol
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Chris in NY Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I’m not trying to pin too much on Campbell. Obviously the o-line was probably the biggest disaster.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
VanHeathen Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Mario needs to stop spending his free time in the tattoo chair and get is ass a conditioning coach…
all that time you spent getting ‘inked up’ you could have got some agility training to help w/ those heavy feet you’ve got.Maybe then he’d be able to move a little quicker when the ball is snapped.
Guy stands there like a freakin’ statue w// the DE running past him, or looking down at a fumble as it’s picked up by the other team…
c’mon man, you’re a starting left tackle in the NFL, please start playing like one!
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The DE totally jumped the count on that one. I’m not sure if he was offsides or not, it sure looked like it live. I rewound that play and watched it in slow motion. The DE was clearly into the initial lunge of his rush before the ball was snapped. It looked bad, but Mario never really had a chance on that one.
There was an issue all day with the snap count. It seemed like the Titans knew the count every time and our own o-line didn’t. Very strange. Also, another reflection of lousy coaching and Campbell’s weaknesses.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
No a loss is not a loss. If you are in the game with 3 seconds to go you have something to rally around for the next week and keep moral up. When you get blown up on opening day after your nitwit coach has been saying all off season you are a playoff team going for a SB it tends to put a dark cloud over things!
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ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I’m not saying that we are a better team than Dallas, I’m simply saying that a loss is a loss. Whether it’s by 3 points or 30. Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
It’s Official Raiders, do NOT have the worst offensive line in the NFL, the Cowboys do…a blatant hold (twice in one play by the same player), by the RT that cost the Cowboys the game-winning touchdown as time expired.
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This is called grasping for straws..one play does not a line make.
However, in the spirit of things, the Cowboys LT just might rival Kwame as being the most inept LT in the last 5 years, if that helps.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
I said the exact same thing earlier but according to jill I stopped talking football.
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# Chris in NY Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
The DE totally jumped the count on that one. I’m not sure if he was offsides or not, it sure looked like it live. I rewound that play and watched it in slow motion. The DE was clearly into the initial lunge of his rush before the ball was snapped. It looked bad, but Mario never really had a chance on that one.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Whatever missus…his feet are glued to the field, he’s slow off the ball, call it whatever you like, technique, agility, he’s slow to react…
i can tell you are an expert on the subject
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Raider Nation, it’s the O-Line. When your center is a rookie who didn’t play center in college, D-II ball….He has potential to be very good, but we need a vet. Steady O-line play changes the entire game.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Mrs Brown,
Show me where I said this year’s Oline is outstanding.
Better than last year = outstanding in your book?
Ahhh, yeah, I forgot the high reagard you had for last years group.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
So Mario needs to drop 100lbs with a conditioning coach – Check
This O-line is better than any O-line we’ve had in 5 year’ per Jill – Check
Sebass doesn’t suck – Check
Murphy doesn’t have alligator arms – Check
DHB’s still photos are rockin per tj – Check
Ok bring on the Rams we will sellout for sure – Check
September 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Thats horrible to think that the Patriots might have the first pick…Put Grads in. I think next week’s game 2 will be a hollow victory like last years game 2 against the chiefs…
September 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Hey Chris …
MistaBrown is looking for a friend, can’t you tell?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
But this is an upgrade over Satele because Jill told me so…
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TheChosenOne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Raider Nation, it’s the O-Line. When your center is a rookie who didn’t play center in college, D-II ball
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Another teams know our snap count because the motions of our centers are always the same before the snap. I noticed it last year, and pointed it out on this blog. Someone who has connections needs to tell the Raiders coaches.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
LT B.Campbell/trade for someone
LG Gallery/Veldheer
C trade for someone
RG Walker/Veldheer
RT Barnes/Henderson
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MistaBrownstainsonyourtightywhiteys:
Get your panties out of a bunch. Dallas scored less points than we did and they are picked by many to go to the SB.
I’m not saying that we are a better team than Dallas, I’m simply saying that a loss is a loss. Whether it’s by 3 points or 30. Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.
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You’re a pathetic hypocrite…AREN’T YOU?
You state “Get your panties out of a bunch.”?? followed by “Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.”???
That’s your rip to another poster???
when YOU POSTED THE FOLLOWING, EARLIER??
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
It’s over.
I’m talking about our season.
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
And we wonder why the NFL analysts laughs at us every single week?
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Shut up, hypocrite.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Nope!
Chris is a major putz but even the blind can see the obvious!
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# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Hey Chris …
MistaBrown is looking for a friend, can’t you tell?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
LMAO
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# Richochet Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MistaBrownstainsonyourtightywhiteys:
Get your panties out of a bunch. Dallas scored less points than we did and they are picked by many to go to the SB.
I’m not saying that we are a better team than Dallas, I’m simply saying that a loss is a loss. Whether it’s by 3 points or 30. Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.
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You’re a pathetic hypocrite…AREN’T YOU?
You state “Get your panties out of a bunch.”?? followed by “Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.”???
That’s your rip to another poster???
when YOU POSTED THE FOLLOWING, EARLIER??
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
It’s over.
I’m talking about our season.
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
And we wonder why the NFL analysts laughs at us every single week?
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Shut up, hypocrite.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
+ Fire Cable/Michalczik
September 12th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Who cares what the 49rs, Dallas, Indy, or any of these other losers did!?!??!?!?!
WE lost and have to look forward to AT LEAST the bye week before Al oks Jackson to ok Cable to make a change from Jacheckdown.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
All we need to complete this buffonery is for SeyMourGlen & tj to show up!
No offense Jill as inept and ridiculous as you are you dont compare to those 2 bewbs!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Mario needs to WHATEVER it takes to become a competent LT in this game, period. I’m sure Cable had him doing extra pushups during camp because he was in such tremendous shape…
September 12th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Yah Im sure Cable is in the chain of command as far as sitting a player…LMAO
September 12th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Some of you are morons!!
Camp was SOFT!! I don’t care if the 9ers did it too. Stop giving excuses!!
You ate an idiot!! That’s a fact!!!
Fire Cable!!!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Coaching: The Titans dictated the tempo from the outset and seemed more prepared than the Raiders. This falls on coach Tom Cable and his coaching staff. Grade: F
copy/pasted from Steve Cochran’s report card, sums up the offensive line, the defense against big plays, etc…
September 12th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Same old Raiders… Looks like year 8 of this…
Bad Oline
poor QB play
Horrible WR drops
Secondary out of position
Non agresive play from LBs
No push from the DTs
Missed sacks by the DEs
Ok play from the RBs
That about sums it up
September 12th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Shut up, hypocrite.
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
LMAO
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Mista Brown Stains and Piece-o-schit together.
For them it is a match made in heaven.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Are*
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Damn this game was winnable. The Raiders just played sad.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I think the saddest thing about the o-line’s troubles is that each of them blew out there. It’s not like there was one weak link that can be excised.
Henderson got beat a few times (though I give him a pass on the fumble because the d-end jumped the count and was arguably offsides).
Walker got beat several times.
Veldheer didn’t know when to snap the ball and was generally unspectacular.
Gallery totally whiffed on blocking a CB on that tricky throwback play to Campbell that would’ve gained decent yardage otherwise.
Carlisle got called for a hold and was his usual sub-par self.
There’s honestly not a ton that can be done to upgrade this unit at this point. They’ll need some help via better scheming. Not sure if we have anyone capable of replacing Henderson at this point. Gallery should stick at LG. I can live with the Veldheer experiment at center. So that leaves the right side:
- Walker can’t play tackle. Far too slow against skilled speed rushers. Bump him to RG where he can be a force in the running game and his sluggishness isn’t as exposed. Bump Carlisle to the bench. Start Bruce Campbell at RT.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Hmmmm I was told our O-line is vastly improved this year!
Jill, your comments?
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Chris in NY Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I think the saddest thing about the o-line’s troubles is that each of them blew out there. It’s not like there was one weak link that can be excised.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
If there is a loss next week then the season is lost. I’m still thinking 8-8, but if they keep playing like this then 4-12
September 12th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
morilla Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
At least DMC shut some of you idiots up today….
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Already said this once in here. A large % of his yardage was gained on soft defensive schemes. Go back and watch again, I already have.
Let’s see if he can smash it North and South from scrimmage when D’s are playing it legit.
Saying that, it was good to see him do something for once.
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He was on pace for 100 at half, dummy.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Hey, DHB had 1 catch. The ball kind of rattled around in his arms and he sort of fell on it.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
They all are until kickoff.
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# RNOraiderFan Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Damn this game was winnable. The Raiders just played sad.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
unless you are a 6th grader with 3rd grade mentality.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Most people SWEAR you are a child and you ….
Nevermind.
I have to keep reminding myself of your early stages of dementia.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Henderson got beat a few times (though I give him a pass on the fumble because the d-end jumped the count and was arguably offsides).
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This was his worst play, after the fumble he just stood there. He didn’t try to jump on the ball. Then when the other player got it a ran he just watched. And I don’t think he knew the player was down by contact. If I was Cable we would of been yanked out of the game right there, hell I would of gave him a bus ticket home and put in Barnes.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Jill, why dont you forget about me and focus on Chris from NY. He is making your O-line statement look ridiculous as I said it was.
I’ll stand back and watch you try and stuff words in his mouth…
lol
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
many problems, and this is hardly an excuse, but so true:
postgame feeling was Titans were jumping the snap count and getting away with it.
the crowd watching the game with me was screaming it!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Try and read it slowly this time Mrs Brown
Henderson-Gallery-Veldheer-Carlisle-Walker > Henderson-Morris-Satele-Carlisle-Green.
Are you really telling us that you would prefer to have Morris and Cornbread back?????
September 12th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
G’night all
Oh,
Fatt McDonald dont forget to ban me.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Changes I’d make before the next game:
1. Gradkowski for J. Campbell
2. B. Campbell at RT, Walker down to RG
3. CJ in for Routt
4. Nick Miller in for Figurs
September 12th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Mistabrownstains, every time you open your mouth and pass gas you make a fool out of yourself.
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LOL!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
There’s honestly not a ton that can be done to upgrade this unit at this point.
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Sure there is.
Barnes-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Veldheer.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Bruce Campbell is an agile and tough tackle, best suited to LT.
Veldheer is better suited to LG/RG/RT
Walker should be playing RG
Henderson is better suited to RT
Barnes is a serviceable RT/LT
We need a starting Center and Satele can back-up.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Henderson got beat a few times (though I give him a pass on the fumble because the d-end jumped the count and was arguably offsides).
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This was his worst play, after the fumble he just stood there. He didn’t try to jump on the ball. Then when the other player got it a ran he just watched. And I don’t think he knew the player was down by contact. If I was Cable we would of been yanked out of the game right there, hell I would of gave him a bus ticket home and put in Barnes.
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I’ve gotta believe he didn’t realize there was a fumble. It was very late in the play that the ball came out and I just think Mario had no idea. I don’t think any football player, outside of possibly Randy Moss, would pull something like that on purpose.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
1 Gradkowski for Campbell good
2 Campbell in at RT Walker at RG good
3 CJ in for routt Bad
4 Nick Miller for Fuged up hands can’t be worse but I’d rather have JLH in
September 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
3. CJ in for Routt
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Why so CJ can be the one chasing the WR when Branch bites on a PA in a cover 2?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Kirk? You abuse the right to be confused, and abused…
Foolish boy…
Norco Bobbo difference of 6 total
Richochet: difference of 8 total
What do we win, besides world wide acclaim??
# Kirk Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Here are the folks who came closest to predicting the correct score….
BART Bridge Blues ===============> Titans 34-27
Dakota ==========================> Titans 31-21
HairyBush =======================> Titans 24-21
Jmello21 ========================> Titans 21-17
Just Fire Baby ==================> Titans 24-13
Kirk ============================> Titans 24-17
La Milicia Negra ================> Titans 31-17
Norco Bob =======================> Titans 44-13
Raiders22 =======================> Titans 24-13
Stabler76 =======================> Titans 30-10
Stoopidmike =====================> Titans 27-13
# Thec07 Says:
September 11th, 2010 at 8:38 p
BART Bridge Blues ==================> Titans 34-27
Dakota =========================> Titans 31-21
HairyBush =======================> Titans 24-21
Jmello21 ========================> Titans 21-17
Just Fire Baby =====================> Titans 24-13
Kirk ============================> Titans 24-17
La Milicia Negra ====================> Titans 31-17
Norco Bob =======================> Titans 44-13
Raiders22 =======================> Titans 24-13
Richochet =======================> Titans 34-17
Stabler76 =======================> Titans 30-10
Stoopidmike =====================> Titans 27-13
The Big Banana ===================> Titans 24-2
Mac =================================> Titans 19-13
September 12th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
BEAST Campbell is NOT ready.
Has a really poor game at RG in the last preseason game.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
BEAST Campbell is NOT ready.
Has a really poor game at RG in the last preseason game.
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Based on the assessment of Cable and Michalczik. Who should be fired immediately. These two heads must roll today.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I’ve gotta believe he didn’t realize there was a fumble. It was very late in the play that the ball came out and I just think Mario had no idea. I don’t think any football player, outside of possibly Randy Moss, would pull something like that on purpose.
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I rewatched this play 6 times. He was looking at the ball. It looked like he was too out of breath to even try to dive on the ball. It was right at his feet. He watched the other player dive on it, then get up, then run down the field. RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM!!! Man that play pissed me off. For a minute I thought the Raiders had resigned J.Russell and had him playing LT
September 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Just watched the second half again, did anybody noticed how none of our screens worked? The Titans were always in the right place to either slap the ball to the ground as soon as JC threw it (because of the Oline not being able to block), or there was a defender ready to tackle the receiver before the ball even got to him. It’s like they knew what we were going to do. That’s great film room study right there.
Also I noticed that JC was indeed very hesitant and unsure with the ball. But like I said before, I don’t blame him. I would be too if I had those huge linemen coming for my head and no one to block them. I have not given up hope on him yet, but he does need better line play. If Grad goes in he might be dealing with the same issue.
One thing to consider though is that Tenn D might be a lot better than given credit for. Specially the line. Keep an eye on their play the next couple weeks, we might’ve been only the beginning of a series of whoopings they might dish out.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
3. CJ in for Routt
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Why so CJ can be the one chasing the WR when Branch bites on a PA in a cover 2?
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OK. Didn’t realize that one was on Branch. To me CJ and Routt are pretty close so I’m not going crazy about that at this point.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
From now Im only listening to Norco Bob…he seemed to be the most on point….we need 10 Stevie Browns. tough, emberassing loss.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
JC was running and the first down marker was 1 yard away. He is 6′5 and 240, there is a DB 5′11 195, so he slides. 4th down Raiders, what a coward.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
We can nitpik about the Oline all day long, but I know I saw plenty of other QBs taking hits today.
The QB gave us NO CHANCE today.
Call it gunshy, took too many hits, whatever. He wasn’t even looking at the WRs today. You have to be able to anticipate the pressure, step up, step aside, and make a friggin play!
JC doesn’t have “IT” at all.
Hue needs to throw this game plan right out the window and go with quick throws to the WRs. If the WR is not wide open downfield, Jacheckdown is not going to make the throw.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
the question is who hurts us worse-henderson or satale as veldheer is probably better than either of them.it would also be nice to see what barnes is like at right tackle.if we make wholesale changes i’m for left to right-veldheer,gallery,satele,walker,barnes with b.campbell gettig some reps at rg.just my 2 cents worth.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Our screens didn’t work because that was the only good play we had in the preseason. So the Raiders did it over and over again to win these meaningless preseason games. They game the whole NFL a lot of tape to stop thier best play.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
game=gave
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
You knew they were just not ready to play this game from the start. Figurs fumbles the kickoff and then the offense comes out and looks like a random group of guys they pulled out of the stands.
Cable’s on thin ice. I just don’t think the guy is bright enough to be a decent head football coach in the NFL. Sorry.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
I think that slide had to do more with him not realizing where the first down marker was. Plus remember the head firs slide from Gannon a few years back? Either way, that was his fault. And yes, I do agree that he looked hesitant while doing it.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
I would be too if I had those huge linemen coming for my head and no one to block them.
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Which is why JC should be on the couch right next to you. 6′5 240 and you’re acting shook?
Get Gradowski in there!
September 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
GM?? I post the following, and all you can do is rush to Mr. B to whine and cry about you thinking he’s a big meany because he laughed at you? Followed by those juvenile “go jump off a bridge” takes?? What are you, 12?
Listen, young lady…if you mouth off silly crappola, try and remember what you said before you attack others for the same…ok, pumpkin?
Here…read it again.
Then cringe.
Repeat where necessary.
# Richochet Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
MistaBrownstainsonyourtightywhiteys:
Get your panties out of a bunch. Dallas scored less points than we did and they are picked by many to go to the SB.
I’m not saying that we are a better team than Dallas, I’m simply saying that a loss is a loss. Whether it’s by 3 points or 30. Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.
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You’re a pathetic hypocrite…AREN’T YOU?
You state “Get your panties out of a bunch.”?? followed by “Either way you can’t base an entire season off of one game.”???
That’s your rip to another poster???
when YOU POSTED THE FOLLOWING, EARLIER??
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
It’s over.
I’m talking about our season.
· ArmChair GM Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
And we wonder why the NFL analysts laughs at us every single week?
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Shut up, hypocrite.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I like that Oline lefty. Hell I’m up for giving Gallery another shot at T, anyone but Henderson.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Well, slept off the disappointment.
I have to be honest. They look like all the past 7 or 8 years.
That performance right out of camp was inexcusable. The press conference response typical…we make mistakes and on and on and on
I seriously question the team’s preparation. Again, not competitive in all 3 phases of the game with sloppy penalties. Give me a crisp well executed game plan please….not O-Line getting EMBARRASSED, bad snaps and double digit penalities…all the while not getting the ball to the receivers
That O-Line looks BAD against the pressure….really bad….and that’s all they are going to see until they can stop it.
I really hate the idea of playing a QB like Gradkowski. Hate it. I have seen that story 100,000 times and am not convinced he will do anything of note. I think the reason he’s on this team and was available through the tender is because he has weaknesses that will be exploited over 16 gms.
As for Campbell, he’s ANOTHER retread right now that better damn well realize he’s on his way out of the league. He’s got to play better. Blocking or not, he looked like a rookie and held the ball too long.
Hue Jackson was calling deep routes too much I think. SCRAP THAT CRAP AND PLAY SMALL BALL AND MOVE THE CHAINS
Its not over yet because its week 1. But the indicators look AWFULLY bad.
Let’s see how they respond this week
September 12th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Someone please point out one time when J. Campbell was EVER good. (Besides the game he played against the Raiders last year…go figure).
September 12th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Right now this team looks destined for another 5-11, 6-10 type season. The only thing that could change that is bringing in an elusive, mobile, gritty QB like Gradkowski to keep plays alive long enough to make up for the deficiencies of the o-line.
Of course, Cable is completely lost as well as stubborn and a terrible talent evaluator and thus will never even consider this switch until it is far too late.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I have to be honest. They look like all the past 7 or 8 years.
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2nd that.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
JHill,
The problem is the playcalling looked like last year. Lots of deep drop and the QB looking way down field.
Again, why not get started with the short stuff…why a couple of quick slants…stuff that gets the ball out quickly.
It looked like last year.
Maybe the O-Line hates Campbell and loves Gradkowksi?
Who knows…but I am deeply skeptical of QBs that are gritty but lack talent….
I am skeptical of players tossed on the scrap heap and expected to star.
Unfortunately, we are seeing why these players come available….too many times.
Hopefully Bush comes back and the Raiders just pound the ball with Bush and DMAC
I’ve said this for a long time….the Raiders should be a run first team….get these delusions of decades past out of our heads..
September 12th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I hope if they throw Grad in there he does a lot better, because I like his heart and passion. But the oline playing like they did today really makes me think that no matter who is back there, they won’t be able to do much.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
djohnnyg Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Someone please point out one time when J. Campbell was EVER good. (Besides the game he played against the Raiders last year…go figure).
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When you CAN’T develop your own talent…especially at QB and have to rely on flawed players rejected from others…what do you expect.
This is all on the coaches to get those flaws corrected.
Campbell looked bad this week. But he looked better during camp, at least from the press clippings since Raider camps are closed off….so he’s the better QB right?
If not. Then this team doesn’t have a chance if the coaches aren’t playing the best 53..right
Also, this league rarely let’s serviceable QBs fall through the cracks…see Charlie Whitehurst…if Gradkowski was truly a starting talent…someone would have made a play for him…..
A starting QB for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and no takers AFTER his near perfect 2 games…..come-on man…the Raiders scouting isn’t that good.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Yes. Kudos to DMac who looked good out there today.
Of course, I’ve been saying for years he needs to get more than 7-10 sporadic touches per game to get it going and start making some plays — but of course Tom Cable never saw it that way and always stuck with the vet he was comfy with over the young guys with huge potential. (FYI, same thing is happening at RG right now and happened with the Kwame Harris experiment as well).
September 12th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
and that’s all they are going to see until they can stop it.
I really hate the idea of playing a QB like Gradkowski. Hate it.
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That is all they are going to see until we have a QB that can anticipate and make a play. What we’ve seen 100 000 times is the QB who won’t make a throw unless a guy is wide open. A guy who makes up his mind in the 1st qtr to throw short for the rest of the game to try and avoid getting hit?
SnB …. The “slide” 2 yds short of the 1st down marker said it all man.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
what many seem to be overlooking is,as jhill points out, all qbs in the nfl get flushed out of the pocket regularly.the key is once they are flushed they must keep their eyes downfield.today it looked as if as soon as campbell was flushed,instead of stepping up or moving to the side,he immediately looked to check down-never looking downfield for a wr or his te.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
SnB …. The “slide” 2 yds short of the 1st down marker said it all man.
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Gutless.
Both JC and MH don’t have the heart for this game
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
“The “slide” 2 yds short of the 1st down marker said it all man.”
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Exactly!!!
I wanna hear somebody ask him about that directly.
“Jason, why are you such a pu$$y”?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
It looked like last year.
Maybe the O-Line hates Campbell and loves Gradkowksi?
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LOL!
Look man, it is what it is.
Gradowski BELIEVES in himself DESPITE this Oline. JC SHOULD be head and shoulders above him, but he’s not. This is not some rookie making his first start. Campbell is in year 5, right? I’ve already seen enough. Rather see Grads and Boeller.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Heart and passion and grit and all that is B.S.
If the team is putting passionless players on the field, then the MaddenRaiders’s of the world are spot on in their assessment of Al Davis.
They played a really bad game with admittedly flawed players at way too many positions…especially offense.
Gradkowski is a QB in the mold of JT O’Sullivan, Doug Flutie, Jon Kitna, Shaun Hill, Sage Rosenfelds, Jeff Blake, and on and on and on. Don’t take the bait and waste the time
They fire for a game or two…and hoot and holler…but that Rudy stuff doesn’t win games
Campbell is a flawed QB too. But there were a set of skills that coaches liked once upon a time. Unless you believe the coaches are INTENTIONALLY playing the wrong players?
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Plus what is up with Louis dropping a fo sure TD (again)
September 12th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
chris-how could cable ever give the touches to mcfadden when he was always hurt?he didn’t get touches because he was hurt,not because the coaches favored someone else.that has been reported time and again.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Exactly Lefty …
No one expected Veldheer to come in and dominate. His missnaps didn’t REALLY hurt us, that I recall. I think there were 3. The first one Campbell saved and we ended up with 3 points, right? I know the other one caused JC to take a knee, but it was on 1st dn. Just saying they weren’t drive killers.
The constant 2 and outs is what stands out to me. 3rd down plays where the QB is throwing 5 yds short of the marker. 4th down plays where the QB is throwing short of the marker. 4th and 2 at the 5 and kicking a FG!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Then you guys have once again indicted this coaching staff and owner.
Where do they find these terribly flawed players and how do they always end up on THIS team?
The QB situation should have been fixed years ago with all those draft picks…but the evaluation system they employ here is obviously bad.
How does a QB who can’t see an open receiver get named the starter?
Personally, I don’t think he’s that bad…at least not yet. I think the whole team came out there UNPREPARED AGAIN for the task at hand.
They sit around sipping tea reading press releases about OTA greatness instead of doing the hard stuff…blocking, tackling, throwing and catching.
Again, to me its Campbell or bust.
Too bad they don’t have a young QB in the 3rd slot instead of wasting it on a guy like Boller.
Would the set of QBs on this roster be considered starters anywhere else? How about the O-Line? Could any of those 5 start anywhere else? How about DHB and Murphy? See them in the starting lineup?
No. So that means its a team that flawed and has a lot of work ahead of it.
Let’s see what happens next week
September 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Plus what is up with Louis dropping a fo sure TD (again)
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Griffin got a hand on that ball.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
“Plus what is up with Louis dropping a fo sure TD (again)”
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One thing that I have noticed for the past seven years is it seems like Raiders are always playing not to get hurt. You see it in the tackling (or lack of), the running out of bounds when they could go for more yardage, the dropped passed over the middle (afraid of the big hit) etc. etc. I see it as a symptom of guys not willing to give it their all for the team. Why go all out when the team isn’t going anywhere.
This franchise just doesn’t try hard enough. Coaching has everything to do with that.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Louis should of fought for that ball. JC should of fought for that 1rst down. Mario should of fought for that fumble.
GUTLESS TEAM
September 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Campbell is a flawed QB too.
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So in the battle of the flawed QBs …
Gradowski believes the WRs are open and throws them the ball.
Jacheckdown doesn’t see anyone open and throws it to the RB.
Were talking what’s most likely to happen here now,
September 12th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
I’m still sulking, and will be in hiding pretty much for the rest of the week. I just have to say to NORCO BOB, I thought you were just a little nay saying, buzz killing blogger, but you almost hit that score on the head.(he said it would be 44-13, Titans) Good call jacka$$! At least the Donkeys lost…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
McClain should of fought to make a few more tackles. Kirk was better then that.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Let’s see what happens next week
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Oh, we’ll win next week and beat Arizona.
But the ? was were we a playoff team, not are we the worst team in the league.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
This is what i see looking at the o-line.Campbell is not a bad Qb.Our line is not made for drop back passers.Look at the Qbs we have had over the years all drop back passers don,t do nothing with this line.Bruce Grad.steps forward into the pocket to throw and uses the protection givin to him and also moves within the pocket to buy time.Campbell just drops back and that,s it.Hes to predictable.He wont work with this line period.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Kirk was better then that.
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No he wasn’t.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
qb is the most difficult position in football to evaluate coming out of college.every team has made bad picks on them.as for murphy and dhb-both could and would start for many other teams.murphy could have had a possible td in the 1st qtr if the pass wasn’t overthrown and dhb had 2 passes thrown his way,i believe, and caught the only one that was catchable.it wasn’t their fault they weren’t involved.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
We should have drafted Conner instead of B Campbell, and we should have drafted John Skelton instead of Goethel. Skelton will be a legit QB in this league in about 2 years. Of course, if we would have drafted Skelton we probably would have ruined him…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Hot Shot, I’ve been saying that for a few years now. Thats a dead on assesment.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
McNabb would of been a great QB to have with our line.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
I thought we did OK on CJ until he broke that big one, after that the whole team quit.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
And who ever said Jano sucks needs to stay off that crack too.Hes doing his job and not to many on the team can say that.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
qb is the most difficult position in football to evaluate coming out of college.every team has made bad picks on them.as for murphy and dhb-both could and would start for many other teams.murphy could have had a possible td in the 1st qtr if the pass wasn’t overthrown and dhb had 2 passes thrown his way,i believe, and caught the only one that was catchable.it wasn’t their fault they weren’t involved.
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And the Raiders haven’t been able to evaluate a QB to save their freekn lives.
Outside of the Gannon score…which was Gruden…this franchise has not had a serviceable QB since 1984
WTF
September 12th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
I thought we did OK on CJ until he broke that big one, after that the whole team quit.
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I did too. CJ had a lot of -1 -2 1 and 2 yard runs
September 12th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
We should be 2-1 ant the end of week 3, if not, I say we are doomed. If we can’t beat the Lambs and the Tards, then we are in for another horrific season,(11+ losses)
September 12th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
HellzBellz Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
We should have drafted Conner instead of B Campbell, and we should have drafted John Skelton instead of Goethel. Skelton will be a legit QB in this league in about 2 years. Of course, if we would have drafted Skelton we probably would have ruined him…
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But you knew the Raiders just HAD to have this guy.
CAn’t even make the active roster.
Thank goodness they didn’t waste a 1st rounder on him. You know that was debated hard
September 12th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
“Campbell’s interception and 32-yard return by Chris Hope, setting up another Tennessee score, was another instance of the Raiders making it way too easy for the Titans.”
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That was Zach Miller’s fault.
He started lined up in the back field along with DMC and Campbell in the shot gun, went in motion to the slot and then ran a slant when Campbell clearly thought it was a comeback. Too much ocoverage anyway and shouldn’t have been thrown, but seems like it was on Miller…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
And who ever said Jano sucks needs to stay off that crack too.Hes doing his job and not to many on the team can say that.
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I don’t know, he missed two easy ones
September 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
What’s disappointing is that there isn’t a young QB on the roster that could be under development.
Anyway, if Campbell and the offense can’t get it going next two weeks with strong performances..or at least serviceable ones…
Then go with the little guy.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Can we please bench Veldheer now because like i said he isnt the best center on this team. Or if we insist on keeping him in the lineup we might as well start Bruce too because with veldheer in the lineup we will continue to struggle.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Henderson staring off into space while the ball was at his feet was priceless. I laughed my a.. off.
WTF was he looking at? We need Gradkowski in there telling him to stop watching the big screen and play football!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Clay Matthews is the man
September 12th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
3 things I think that would have drasticly cahanged the game: 1) If Murph catches that deep pass over the middle that he only got 1 hand on
2) If Murph catches the TD that was right to him.
3) If Campbell knows where the 1st down line is and slides 1 yard later on that 3rd down when he slid up short.
Those were all good drives, and we had the momentum in the game at those points, but, as usual, shot ourselves in the foot.(or face, since they turned out to be suicidal)
September 12th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Henderson staring off into space while the ball was at his feet was priceless. I laughed my a.. off.
WTF was he looking at? We need Gradkowski in there telling him to stop watching the big screen and play football!
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That made me sick, if I was his team mate I would of kicked his a$$
September 12th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
HB, the QB should not be sliding when his team desperately needs a first down.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Gruden should be hired back.we need to turn these girls into men.At least he will put the best players in and use them right.Cables too scared to hurt their feelings.Fire the hand puppets.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
The Raiders should make a play for Vick.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
“Fire the hand puppets.”
Now that’s funny.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
You guys may be going a little hard on JC, calling for his head already is not necessary. The dude was getting demolished before he could even finish his drop back. It reminded me a lot of the Shell 2 era…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
HellzBellz Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
We should have drafted Conner instead of B Campbell, and we should have drafted John Skelton instead of Goethel. Skelton will be a legit QB in this league in about 2 years. Of course, if we would have drafted Skelton we probably would have ruined him…
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But you knew the Raiders just HAD to have this guy.
CAn’t even make the active roster.
Thank goodness they didn’t waste a 1st rounder on him. You know that was debated hard
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Debated so hard that we didnt take him until the 4th round…..ridiculous post. We needed o-line help and B. Campbell has huge upside there. Unless Conner can play LT or return kicks there is nothing that he could have done to help this team today.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Fire Cable!!
Fire the OL coach!!
Cut Eugene!!
Cut Cooper!!
Cut Walker or move him to RG!!
Fire the WRs coach!!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
The Raiders should make a play for Vick.
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NO Sir!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
B campbell got hugh push in the preseason.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Al didnt want Gruden cause he runs it his way and it won our division doing it his way not Als.fire kiss butt cable.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Why no Vick? He is the perfect QB to play behind this Oline.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
OK fellas, I’m going back into hiding. Maybe I’ll see talk to you guys next week, (if we win).
1 good thing: I have CJ2k, and Matt Forte on my fantasy team, I kicked a$$ in the fantasy world, but I would trade it for a Raider victory any day…
September 12th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
HellzBellz Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
You guys may be going a little hard on JC, calling for his head already is not necessary. The dude was getting demolished before he could even finish his drop back. It reminded me a lot of the Shell 2 era…
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$ sacks in the 1st half did give me a feeling of De ja vu. Good thing that we have an intelligent QB who didnt take another sack the rest of the game. Funny thing that if our o-line could have got the passing game going we would have had a chance. McFadden actually had as good of a game as CJ2K and had we won he would be getting natipnal attention for it
September 12th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I’m out too. To drunk to stay awake…….
Later Nation!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Campbell is not bad. just bad with our style of line.Bruce will do better with that line.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
You guys may be going a little hard on JC, calling for his head already is not necessary. The dude was getting demolished before he could even finish his drop back
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Dude had plenty of opportunities to make some plays and simply didn’t deliver ONE TIME.
Screen plays being slapped down. Balls being thrown late. Balls overthrown.
You’re saying that’s ok because he was hit the play before?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
one more thing at the end of this week only one AFC west team will have a win..The division is not lost! LOL
September 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Move Veldheer to left tackle…move mario to right tackle and make walker or Barnes our right guard
September 12th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Fat Monkey:
-didn’t play Veldheer at C in the last preseason game. Why? He needs practice.
-Soft Camp (not a lot of tackling & blocking). Why?
-OL Guru, but we have one of the worst OL in the league.
Fire the Fat Monkey!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Fire the Fat Monkey!
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Why? I don’t think that will happen. Fat Monkey entertains the boss with a cute dance while eating assistant coaches.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
It’s not JC!
It’s the OL!!
It’s the Fat Monkey wirh his soft camps and great work with our OL.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
So..to repeat from a week ago..not good to have so many questions going into the first game of the year.
Even worse?
Having even more questions AFTER the first game of the year..
Ouch
September 12th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
All three QBs on the roster are Failures. They had their chance with other teams and failed. Why should they do any better in Oakland.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
You guys may be going a little hard on JC, calling for his head already is not necessary. The dude was getting demolished before he could even finish his drop back
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Dude had plenty of opportunities to make some plays and simply didn’t deliver ONE TIME.
Screen plays being slapped down. Balls being thrown late. Balls overthrown.
You’re saying that’s ok because he was hit the play before?
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Its hard to deliver anything when you dont and cant trust your o-line. His internal clock was telling him that he had 2 seconds to either find a receiver or find a checkdown. Notice that all of the sacks came in the 1st half, he learned his lesson and that lesson was get rid of the ball or get destroyed.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I don’t have any queastions, I have answers. The Raiders are not a good team. period.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Can’t win with backup players JHill. You know that.
Gradkowski would just be for entertainment purposes…a sort of “Bad News Bears goes good” story.
But they don’t win much either.
Games with him will look more like the Dallas and Washington games…and less like the 4th QTR of the Steeler game, who by the way got rid of their secondary after that season.
Gotta stick with Campbell, at least till week 5.
If they look inept…then do whatever you want…because I’ll be casually watching by that point anyway
September 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
JC looked lost…seems Wash fans weren’t kidding on his up and down play.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
favre failed in atl,s.young failed in tb,unitas was cut more than once,plunkett failed in ne and sf,etc.-it happens.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
bad QBs
Good RBs
Bad OL
Ok WRs
Good DTs
Bad DEs
Ok LBs
Ok Ss
Good CB
that about sums it up
September 12th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
# RNOraiderFan Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I don’t have any queastions, I have answers. The Raiders are not a good team. period.
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Cool…is this like a Jeopardy thang? Where you give the answer first?
Do I have to reply in a form of a question??
Oh wait..I just did.
Ok, Double Jeopardy…what’s the answer?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Bruce won when he played and against good teams too.Face it he moves the chains.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
oh ya one great CB. we can hang our hat on that!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Fat Monkey & his great work with our OL:
-Walker is too slow to play OT, but he starts at RT, and we play Campbell (the most athletic OL we have) at RG.
-Veldheer needed more reps at C, but he didn’t play the last preseason game. Not even a Q?!?!
-Cooper is killing us, but he continues to start due to his exp in the ZBS!
Fire The Fat Monkey!!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
favre failed in atl,s.young failed in tb,unitas was cut more than once,plunkett failed in ne and sf,etc.-it happens
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Another problem with the Raiders….they keep trying to use the same old formula.
Scouting was not as good as it is now. Teams rarely give up good QBs unless they have two of them.
Relying on retreads is a heavy dosage of luck and chances are you are getting a VERY limited player (hence why he is available)
I don’t believe in fairy tales Lefty. If I go into a fight, give me the overwhelming odds..
Leave the wish on a prayer crap to Disney
September 12th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
favre failed in atl,s.young failed in tb,unitas was cut more than once,plunkett failed in ne and sf,etc.-it happens.
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Sooooo..according to you, JC will succeed in?????
Chicago?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Gradkowski = Shaun Hill, JT O’Sullivan and Jon Kitna
No thanks…….
And if Campbell = Jay Schroeder or Billy Jo Hobert…then so-be it.
Maybe the scouts will finally figure something out one of these days
September 12th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
I’m out, Later Nation!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Lethargic…….
Who are the Raiders?
September 12th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Lefty,
For every Plunkett, how many Koy Detmer’s do we get
For every Unitas, how many Aaron Brooks’
There is a formula…hell the Chargers belted out two pro-bowl QBs…..
They need to draft a mentally stable quarterback someday that has the tools…not big armed guys with no work-ethic or drug addiction
September 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Gradkowski has done well every time hes been in for us.How can you say hes not better than any of the Qbs on our roster.Hes better than Hill and JT and Kitna.He moves around and makes plays like Garcia use to do.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
We can’t develop QBs!
We can’t hire a great HC with exp to help us draft/ develop a QB.
I blame our QB problems on Al!
September 12th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
“We’re not proud of how we played today,” Campbell said. “I thought they were more detailed today than we were and more physical. It’s deflating … because of all the things we put into camp, all offseason, all training camp, preseason. …
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/12/SPVC1FCR0N.DTL#ixzz0zNzTpHyp
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Preparation is so important. Gotta hope they are focused this week.
Too many quotes like that over the years
September 12th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
i never said campbell would succeed,i was just commenting that some qbs were failures with one team but successful with another.don’t put words in my mouth.you know exactly what i said-nothing more,nothing less.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Gruden can take this same team and win with these guys.Book that
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
you mean like ryan leaf-one of the chargers great picks.
September 12th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Hot Shot Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Gradkowski has done well every time hes been in for us.How can you say hes not better than any of the Qbs on our roster.Hes better than Hill and JT and Kitna.He moves around and makes plays like Garcia use to do.
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Really? He’s better than Hill, JT or Kitna. Based on a 4th QTR against a pittsburgh team that basically fired its secondary that year and missed the playoffs.
A preseason game? How about that Dallas game? Or the Washington game?
Bruce is as much a question mark as anyone in the league.
The history books are full of players with a good game or hell, even season here and there.
If he’s the best option on this team….the season is over
September 12th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
If he’s the best option on this team….the season is over
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Very well may be.
But if you think a bunch of checkdowns is going to get us anywhere, then you are mistaken.
Like you said … 31 other GMs couldn’t have been wrong could they? Why didn’t ANYONE want Jacheckdown Campbell?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
you mean like ryan leaf-one of the chargers great picks.
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Or Akili Smith and David Klingler….Joey Harrington etc…
You have to keep trying to develop that ELITE signal caller….otherwise your team just gets lost and end up being very forgettable….
A string of 6-10 with an occassional 9-7 ot 10-6 every 10 years……
That’s the Raiders right now because of a LACK of elite players…especially at the QB position
Marc Wilson
Jay Schroeder
Todd Marinovich
Jeff Hostetler ` 2 years
Billy Jo Hobert
Jeff George
Donald Hollas
Rich Gannon ` 3 years
Kerry Collins
Aaron Brooks
Josh McCown & Culpepper
JaDavis
Bruce Gradkowski / Jason Campbell?????????
September 12th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
He plays alot better than what we have.The drop back passers wont work with this line.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
J,
How do you know 31 GMs didn’t want him?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
That list is all drop back passers.It dont work.Gannon was good cause he was not a drop back passer.he moved around.All the others on the list besides Bruce are statues in there playing.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
how do you know what kind of camp we ran?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
He plays alot better than what we have.The drop back passers wont work with this line.
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Then you can’t win
September 12th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
I think JC can be a solid QB in our system, if we can fix our OL problems.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
O,
Because they tried to trade him for 2 years with no takers. Or do you think the Redskins were basically asking for too much in return = why he was not traded?
Me thinks if any of the other GMs wanted him doesn’t get traded to us for a future 4th.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Hot Shot Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
That list is all drop back passers.It dont work.Gannon was good cause he was not a drop back passer.he moved around.All the others on the list besides Bruce are statues in there playing.
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Rich Gannon won throwing the ball and the O-Line was good.
Rich Gannon also was in his 12th or 13th year by the time the Raiders got him. And ultimately, he did not win the big one.
The only mobile QBs I liked were Steve Young and Randall Cunningham….and Randall didn’t win the big on either.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I think JC can be a solid QB in our system, if we can fix our OL problems.
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Maybe that is true. I’d say a lot of QBs would have success on a number of teams if they didn’t have to worry about getting hit.
Guess that’s why there are MAYBE 5 QBs in the whole league who every other team wishes they had?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Yeah Al made sure Gannon didnt win by trading Gruden to the Bucs.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
O,
Because they tried to trade him for 2 years with no takers. Or do you think the Redskins were basically asking for too much in return = why he was not traded?
Me thinks if any of the other GMs wanted him doesn’t get traded to us for a future 4th.
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I take it you are not a fan of the GM decisions then.
They had no other choice. THey clearly didn’t like Gradkowski for some reason. Otherwise why make the trade and the contract? WHile Gradkowski got a 2nd round tender and a million dollars?
Hue JAckson and Al Davis felt the need for change. Again, the QB situation was made hopeless due to a series of poor decisions.
Let’s see what happens next week.
AGain, this is the price you pay when you have a high bust draft pick in JaDavis and a string of other failures at the position (Andrew Walter, Tuiassossopo etc)
September 12th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I guess with all the teeth gnashing about the O-Line and the devotion to the mobile fleet footed Gradkowski….
We can see why Al Davis wanted Vince Young so bad….
LOL!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
SnB,
I didn’t have a problem with the trade at the time. Except for the fact that it wasn’t McNabb that we were getting. Honestly didn’t know that much about him.
But I’ve seen this story 100 000 times as you say.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
I was upset yesterday and posted some thoughts on certain firings.
But seriously, you can’t yank the QB after the 1st week.
Nor can you fire the coach or make any significant changes to the starting lineup.
Those early season changes would absolutely negate everything you were working on and working for over the last 9 months.
It would repudiate everything you have done to date.
Not after week 1. And I would have said the same if the little guy was named the starter.
This is not the same situation as JaDavis. Campbell works hard and the coaches have confidence in him. They got to work on fixing this. Unfortuately they don’t have much time.
Week 2 and its already a MUST WIN game…….
Oh well…we’ve been here before
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
They Do what Al says or they are gone.We were a good team and Al made sure he messed it up by getting rid of chucky.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
SnB,
I didn’t have a problem with the trade at the time. Except for the fact that it wasn’t McNabb that we were getting. Honestly didn’t know that much about him.
But I’ve seen this story 100 000 times as you say.
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True…I was hoping for McNabb too….but it didn’t work out. Still doesn’t change the fact that Davis and Jackson felt the need to make the trade AND shellout the cash.
Yup, we’ve seen this story 100,000 times.
But guess what, the other channel has the same well-worn re-runs too.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
It’s the O-Line stupid Cable!
Fix the O-Line, start Satele at Center, start Veldheer at RT, and start Barnes at LT. Get the running game going with Cartwright or Bennett and utilize DMC like they did vs Titans in the passing game.
Hue Jackson needs to call more quick developing passing plays, and plays that will move and roll out the pocket to buy JC or Grads more time at QB.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Fix the O-Line, start Satele at Center, start Veldheer at RT, and start Barnes at LT.
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And Campbell still won’t throw it until the man is open.
Not one time did I see him even ATTEMPT to ANTICIPATE a WR coming out of a break or going to an open area.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
We have kiss a## coaches on this team and thats the major problem.Cables like hi Al how can i kiss your butt today.Lmao
September 12th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
It’s the O-Line stupid Cable!
Fix the O-Line, start Satele at Center, start Veldheer at RT, and start Barnes at LT. Get the running game going with Cartwright or Bennett and utilize DMC like they did vs Titans in the passing game.
Hue Jackson needs to call more quick developing passing plays, and plays that will move and roll out the pocket to buy JC or Grads more time at QB.
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Excellent post. THey have to stop going for the kill shot all the time and just develop some rythm.
Get DHB early on quick slant..oh never mind.
Until the RAiders stop trying to recreate the 70’s…this garbage will persist.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
If the Lambs beat them next week in the home opener and if the O-Line plays like girls again….what will the old man Al’s and Cables excuse be then?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Fix the O-Line, start Satele at Center, start Veldheer at RT, and start Barnes at LT.
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And Campbell still won’t throw it until the man is open.
Not one time did I see him even ATTEMPT to ANTICIPATE a WR coming out of a break or going to an open area.
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I would hope that he or Gradkowski or even Boller were doing this in camp?
These are basic fundamentals you are talking about JHill. If its that bad….then the season is lost.
Tennessee applied pressure all game long and the Raiders players had no answer.
The coaches made precious few adjustments that I could see…game didn’t change much
September 12th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Brien, you work fast food and you think you’re rich.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
# J Hill Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Fix the O-Line, start Satele at Center, start Veldheer at RT, and start Barnes at LT.
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And Campbell still won’t throw it until the man is open.
Not one time did I see him even ATTEMPT to ANTICIPATE a WR coming out of a break or going to an open area.
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Yeah it seems I have been posting the same chit the last 5-6 years…..oh wait…I have! LOL
Freakin sad….
September 12th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
If the Lambs beat them next week in the home opener and if the O-Line plays like girls again….what will the old man Al’s and Cables excuse be then?
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Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
Hopefully the game plan takes into consideration the limitations on the line…Hopefully
September 12th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
“I don’t even know if it was even that great of a play action,” cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “It’s just a matter of us being more disciplined. That play is dead … we did it in practice, we nailed it every time. Came to the game, lot of things going on in your head … we had a big mistake, you can’t have those mistakes. We were in the perfect defense for it.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/12/SPVC1FCR0N.DTL#ixzz0zO9zaXUO
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Man….Nnamdi has to be getting sick of this….hope they improve the team for his sake…
September 12th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Three plays later, Tennessee defensive end Jacob Ford blew by left tackle Mario Henderson like Henderson never saw him and jarred the ball loose from Campbell on a sack. Actually, Henderson didn’t see Ford.
“They had some great jumps and I think the one on the fumble – I am not going to say anything before I see it on film – but I feel he was definitely offsides,” Henderson said. “I never even saw him until he was past me. The crowd noise played a part and we couldn’t hear the snaps, just looking at the ball.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/12/SPVC1FCR0N.DTL#ixzz0zOAUMBNS
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Man – Didn’t stand a chance.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Cable took a sack.Als sack.lol
September 12th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
That guy was offsides and the offense needed to change up the snap count.
They didn’t adjust fast enough.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Henderson was thinking of a sandwich or something.You could of drove a ford truck through there and he wouldnt of seen it.lol
September 12th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Later Gents. I’m tired.
J, we will continue this later.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Grads lead the team to big wins last year and has good pocket awareness and can make plays when improvising.
Grads won Offensive Player of the Week last year and I haven’t seen any Raider QB come close to doing that since….guess who? Gannon!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
I agree Dknight007
September 12th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
so you don’t like cable because he tries to work with davis instead of against him like lance?the only way for anyone to be successful with this team is work with the old man not constantly butt heads with him.why is that so hard for some of you to understand?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Cable is failing with trying to improve the O-Line and that is supposed to be his specialty??
Not good!
September 12th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Thats not a coach its a puppet.No cable has no nuts.Gruden coached the way he wanted to and we won games.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Gruden might of got traded but at least he didnt did not look like a crapy coach when he left Oakland.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Rolando McClain should start giving interviews and signing autographs for fans cause right now he SUCKS. Don’t act like you’re above it all and then come out and get pushed all over the field.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
cable said if one of the top tackles had been available we would have drafted him instead of mclain.then we took 2 olineman later.it seems we are trying to fix the line.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
wrong,hot shot.gruden did work with the old man,but he obviously didn’t like it-therefore his departure.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Grads lead the team to big wins last year and has good pocket awareness and can make plays when improvising.
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That’s what Atlanta was doing with Vick…Improvising..winning a few big games…but it didn’t work in the medium turn.
Get me a real QB please!
September 13th, 2010 at 12:00 am
I was reading Can Inman’s articale, and he did explain one play to me (I was at a bar w/ multiple TVs & Direct TV- so no sound to the Raider game).
Please tell me that was not a play called in by the OC, Hue.
The play where I though at first the Titans or Raiders were off-sides/illegal motion and Campbell takes a knee for a one yard loss. Free play for the defense.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:01 am
so,are you saying campbell isn’t a real qb?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Lefty,
I am saying that the Raiders need a real QB like any other team in the league.
Going with guys that play sandlot is entertaining but doesn’t win in the medium to long-term.
I hope Campbell is a real QB. Jury is still out. He has the tools to be one…arm strength, accuracy, touch etc…but you have to show it.
I wish the Raiders had a young QB on the roster that they could bring along in case Campbell and the Little Guy don’t work out.
Right now, after week 1…Lefty…I would say no. That offense was offensive yesterday and looked totally unprofessional. Just like last year.
Let’s see if they learn and adjust in week 2
September 13th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Gruden left cause he wanted control over the team.Als the reason he left.Gruden was doing alot of it his way just not evertything.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:11 am
So ive been reading a few of the comments here, and its quite obvious that some of you guys have never played football in your lives.
The number one problem with the Raiders is al davis,so enough of this fire the coach bs.
-evidence: the raiders are running the same man/base/no blitz defense, they have ran for the last 10 coaches. You cant blame JC if the 3 wr’s are running 15 yrd routes and the only thing protecting him is Mario henderson, and carslie. Would you have faith dropping back to make a pass???
The def looked improved today, in that that played better at the point of attack. McClain looked solid, and outside of Rout, they all played well.
Yes, most teams give up yards on the ground, i.e the Colts ect, so plz stop saying that McCain is at fault because he was blocked on 1 particular play, b/c the truth of the matter is he made alot of plays that wouldnt have been made last yr.
And oh yea, it is Chris Johnson!!!!, the best running back in the NFL, he’s gonna have big numbers, that why they call him the best.
Valdeer played bad, but he’s a rookie, center calling line shifts and adjustments in the NFL for the very first time. Besides the mental errors( which can be fixed) he held his own and didnt allow 1 sack. imo let him continues to leard and grow….
…stop hating on McClain. Valdeer and the d-line,ect because if it was up to you haters, our best player today (Mcfadden) wouldnt be wearin silver n’ black this yr
September 13th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Defense did ok but they were on the field way too much.They were tired.Just like last season.Branch played terrible and put people on the o-line back in there drafted positions.Thats like telling a right hander your not a right hander no more your left handed from now on.What a joke of a line coach.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Titans 38, Raiders 13
6. Calm down, Titans fans. Let’s see how your offense does against the Steelers next week before declaring Tennessee the favorite in the AFC South. The Raiders clearly have done nothing to improve in the offseason. Watching quarterback Jason Campbell struggle makes you realize JaMarcus Russell wasn’t the problem in Oakland. The Raiders dropped their eighth straight season opener in non-competitive fashion.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andrew_perloff/09/12/first.and.10/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0zOKMpBp0
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Even the national media is finally starting to come around.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:16 am
he was getting things done his way by working with the old man and convincing him to do the things he wanted.you are correct,he wanted control and by the way things turned out in tb we should be glad he didn’t get it.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:21 am
TB players were just sissys who didnt like gruden telling them they sucked.He was hard on them to toughen those guys up.The younger guys dont like discipline and they cant handle being told what to do and being yelled at.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:26 am
well who was responsible for having all those players who sucked on the team?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Players now days get their little pu##s hurt to easy.
September 13th, 2010 at 12:53 am
I JUST MADE AN ACCOUNT FOR THIS DISCUSSION BOARD, I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING YOUR POSTS FOR A WHILE…
I WANT TO CLEAR ONE THING UP FIRST…
M-I-K-E M-I-T-C-H-E-L IS AWFUL !!!!!! MIKE MITCHELL HONESTLY DOESNT KNOW HOW TO TACKLE …THANKS AL DAVIS YOU IDIOT…I KNOW THE GAME OF FOOTBALL AND HAVE BEEN A RAIDER/SPORTS FAN FOR A LONG TIME.. HES A BRUTAL PLAYER
TITAN GAME QUICK NOTES…
Jason Campbell= No wonder he was only worth a 4th round pick…the Redskins aren’t idiots ( but us Raider fans dont look at that ) … He’s aweful…and Yea we know how bad our line is, but put someone in there than can make the best of that situation WHAT CAN WE DO…Put in Bruce Gradkowski ( the guy that takes his players to eat at his parents house and beats the Steelers the next day ) HE COMPETES, AND WILL GET YOU THAT EXTRA YARD…
McFadden= Yes he was the only bright spot, but like someone said in an earlier post it was primarily in soft coverages…I mean my god that was the most painful and grinding 95 rushing yards I have ever seen…
Khalif Barnes= very uncoordinated…aweful
Stanford Route- bound to be picked on and burned by number 2 wide Receivers all year long
and if it isn’t him its chris johnson…
RAIDER FANS, BRACE YOURSELF… IF YOU WATCHED THE WHOLE GAME THIS MORNING YOU NOTICED WHEN THEY SHOWED AL DAVIS IN THE LUXURY BOX ( LOOKING LIKE HES ABOUT TO DIE) HE ORDERED SOME AFRICAN AMERICAN GUY SOMETHING ABOUT ASKING ABOUT “WHO CALLED THAT PLAY” AND FRANTICALLY NODDED HIS HEAD AND RAN UP THE STAIR CASE ….I HAVE PLAYED IT BACK NUMEROUS TIMES…HES A FREAKN JERKOFF PEOPLE
September 13th, 2010 at 1:49 am
hey501, stop cryin, its WEEK one, on the road! The whiners got killed in Seattle,and others as well.Remember,8and8 is what we have,a few lucky bounces and 9 and 7. Raiders!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 2:52 am
This game showed us what we already knew: That the offensive line needed better players and time to jell.
Expecting this team to be in the playoffs is like assuming you’ll win the lottery.
On this OL we’ve got two new players and one is a new CENTER! Plus we’ve got a new QB.
It bothered the hell out of me when Cable announced ONE WEEK before the season that Veldheer would be the center and he hadn’t even played there in two weeks!
In the game those lousy snaps made you want to eat your effin beer can.
Veldheer did improve as the game went on though and what the hell it was his FIRST game as center.
Campbell looked pretty much as we thought. He’s slow to make up his mind, fixates on his intended receiver and has a slow release.
He’s not Plunkett Al.
If he was, Shanahan wouldn’t have given him to the Raiders. Shanahan decided instead to play an ageing but good quarterback who’s been injured so much he hasn’t completed a season in three years.
On the other hand, Campbell’s a vast improvement over Russell and it’s early days yet. He’s at least competent, has better footwork, knows what’s gong on,
and can scramble better.
This was also HIS first game.
Then there’s Henderson. You’d think he’d at least wave to all those guys running by him.
Maybe we should go back to telling him there’s a Kiffin on every team we play. Talk about inconsistent!
On the defense too we’re playing rookies and there are going to be errors.
What’s Huff’s excuse?
We brought in some good players through the draft this year and it’s going to take time.
McFadden finally looked like the McFadden of the first year and he was playing with the same OL.
In a couple of weeks Bush should be back and the running game should improve and open it up for the passing game.
I still think we’ll be around 8-8. Like every other member of the Nation, I just want to see some progress.
Hey, if you’re an optimist sometimes good things happen. If you’re a pessimist, good things never happen.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:14 am
on the one play that jerry points out for mcclain, he was held, watch it. you can plainly see the offensive player had shirt and arm pulling him. jerry you should know better.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am
it’s not the players it’s the system…..al’s system. as soon as the defensive blitzer see’s campbell drop back seven steps which is all the time they know raiders throwing it deep so blitz. al’s simple schemes that stand the test of time is the blame all here. all jeff fisher had to do was look up film from when he played the raiders in 1985 and well we are still playing the same offense and defense. cable had to know they were going to go after the qb hard esp veldheer but would al let him do anything different? welcome to raiderville hue.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:21 am
they looked like they had a new game plan on friday night (al’s contribution) and never practiced it on saturday.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:52 am
The offensive line schemes were HORRIBLE! Guys out of position. Guys pulling to block someone who had already penetrated and blown up the play. Embarrassing line work by all involved.
September 13th, 2010 at 10:18 am
One thing that i notice, is people just dont understand what they are watching.
The o-line was awful!!! This is on Cable not just because he coaches them, but becuase he picked these guys for their positions on this team. Veldheer did fine for his first nfl start, as a rookie in hostile territory. he made some rookie mistakes, the rest of your team should be good enough to overcome them, they were not. Walker, carlile, and henderson are killing our offense! Bring in barnes for henderson, and we need to get b campbell ready to replace carlisle! Move henderson over to the right tackle spot where he wont be exposed to spedd rushers.
Gradkowski over jason campbell outrageous. campbell was under sever pressure the entire game!! It is not the offensive system that failed, its the execution of the pass protection. Stop with the complaints about the seven step drops, every team in the leauge has this for deep passing. This is not a unique Al davis thing. Campbell was under pressure even with short drops, and being in the shot gun. No qb can succeed under those conditions. If it wasnt for his athletic abilty to move around, and his rocket arm, it would have been much much worse. Gradkowski does not have the arm strength, to throw on the run like Campbell and he is not tall enough to look over the top of the pass rush and throw like campbell did all day long yesterday. Lets be real.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I dont know what you are watching.Bruce out played campbell in the preseason and played well last season won games when he started.He has a good enough arm to throw passes.Watch his film tape.