Slide show from Raiders’ loss to Titans
By Jon Becker
Monday, September 13th, 2010 at 12:23 am in Oakland Raiders.
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September 13th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Do we have to?
September 13th, 2010 at 12:32 am
4-12
September 13th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Only 1 week.
We know the team’s “limitations”
But its still only 1 week.
Win the next two and things will look up.
The team does DESERVE to get ripped for failing to ONCE AGAIN show up and compete
September 13th, 2010 at 1:16 am
with all the injuries yesterday to the Raiders and other teams, (that hit Weaver FB for Phili took-leg going backwards), QBs: Stafford, Kolb
Raiders could be getting some phone calls for Mr. Boller (any for Mr. Gradkowski just hang up Al).
as for other positions alot of safeties went down so the Raiders better sign Mr. S. Brown, before another team does = as 3 of our DBs went down, CJ, Huff, & Eugene
September 13th, 2010 at 1:20 am
You can take it to the bank, the Rams are going to run Steven Jackson all day, we have not proved we can stop a premier RB for 60 minutes, and their rookie, Bradford threw 55 passes week 1.
September 13th, 2010 at 2:03 am
Fellas, anyone thought we were going to be 16 and 0? Raiders lost,get the Rams next, should be at 500 with 14 games to go! Relax,How are the whiner fans doin? They got killed, picked to win the NFC WEST, PUNKED! Now if we lose to the Rams????? Then,panic
September 13th, 2010 at 2:37 am
There is no gimme games for the 2010 Raiders and you guys better get used to that. I dont care if its the Rams or the Bucs. Should be a better match up but no gimme.
September 13th, 2010 at 2:46 am
The Raiders lose the season opener for the 8th year in a row. The Raiders continue to make history for all the wrong reasons. I wont throw this season away yet, because I have them going 9-7 at best, but the coach (Basic Cable) needs a premium upgrade. People jumping off the Campbell wagon already? When he throws for 250 plus & 2 tds, everyone will say,,thats the Jason Campbell we were expecting, then all will be well again..
September 13th, 2010 at 2:56 am
It’s BS all this talk about how it’s not the end of the world, bad to fire coaches, etc.
Al obviously is to blame for whatever behind the scenes stuff that goes on hindering coaches from implementing game-plans, if that’s true or to what extent.
But the OL is the root of all our on-field problems, and that falls on Cable/Michalczik. They’ve had 2-3 years now to fix it, admittedly with mediocre cattle, but it’s clear with how players are playing out of position on the OL that those two coaches have little idea. We have some talented pieces in the OL, so for the same rubbish to happen in the Titans game yet again is inexcusable. Especially after our off-season and all the talk.
This is the same as last 7 seasons, all the post-game coach-speak, how they’re in training camp mode by week 7 still trying to teach the basics, working out how to prepare, getting the right starters in there, etc. Takes them forever to be proactive.
Same story will happen….week 2 we’ll either fall over the line against a bad Rams despite the same things we saw vs Titans, and just getting a win will invoke relief to keep things going another fortnight. Then we’ll get blown out again for a few weeks stretch, then we’ll pull out a good win against a play-off caliber team, then there’ll still be that talk about how to keep things going, keep working on it, blah blah.
BS.
Fire the HC and OL coach now. Get someone in who can teach it better and will utilize the talent in their natural positions. Al to pull his finger out and make some urgent trades for better OL.
Centers and Tackles is what we need. Light a fire under J.Campbell’s butt. It wont matter if we have JC or BG at QB if we have a top OL. Either/or in their skill sets will perform to a far greater capacity.
September 13th, 2010 at 2:59 am
i rambled a bit last post, but i dont effin care. Im crashing soon.
Enough is enough has been going on far too long. Too much lip service about how they will mix things up, utilize more sophisticated offense/defense, rotations, getting that hard-hitting mentality back, but it’s BS. The organization moves at snail’s pace. This organization cannot keep bleeding like this. 7 consistent years of on-field and off-field BS.
FMD
September 13th, 2010 at 3:00 am
truthfully, I wasn’t expecting to win this one, but I didn’t expect a blow out either. If we can win the next 2,(which we should) thwn we will be back in business! at least the donkeys lost…we are still right there boys, let’s not panick just yet…
September 13th, 2010 at 3:01 am
NO MORE BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s start a mantra GG…
NO MORE BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 3:08 am
I was demanding a win, or a competitive showing like an actual functioning offense etc. Same BS over and over again, giving up big plays, players going on about how “it worked in practice but for some reason we just made a mistake in the game”, same absurd OL penalties and break-downs, the Titans completely changed to 2nd gear in the 4th, let up, is the only time our OL started to function, but JC still dumping it. When the game was on the line in the first half, we were ill-prepared, ill-disciplined, woeful, and our QB was so under attack he freaking had to take a knee to avoid another sack, he was running for his life, JC was rattled due to the woeful OL and OL coaching and that no hoper Cable.
Mantra indeed, no more BS.
No way is that tripe served up week 1 acceptable especially after all the effin lip-service and off-season moves, and all the talk. Cannot stand Cable and his pre/post PC’s. Next time i hear him talk better be him thanking the Raiders for a gig on his exit out of there.
September 13th, 2010 at 3:10 am
Although we all were hoping & predicting scores, deep down we all probably knew we were gona lose that game, but the blowout was heartbreaking yet not surprising. Honestly if we win next week I wont be surprised, if we lose next week I wont be surprised. Back to life,,,back to reality.
September 13th, 2010 at 3:25 am
A guy like Campbell is not the problem anyway. Look at Brady. He’s the same type of pocket statue QB. But how often do we see Brady week in week out standing there with 5 yards pocket clearance, 5 7 even 10 secs, to hit receivers deep. They have such a solid OL they can afford to be a pass-heavy offense, short and long. That’s what our passing offense should be capable of when we pass.
There’s nothing wrong with vertical passing, many teams utilize it, often even. As long as you have an OL capable of sustaining it. If Al wants to get off watching balls fly 50 yards then pull your finger out, fire Cable Michalczik, trade for another Tackle or two and another Center or two.
And do it today to salvage the season, not when the season is a wash after week 5 and internally bleeding with empty stadiums and nationwide media mockery.
How much hype and talk did we get around the media, even from “haters”, about the Raiders being a playoff team. Raiders all talk no action. They had to come out there and make a statement that we were back. Now we undid all that with that insipid display and same BS post-game PCs.
September 13th, 2010 at 3:51 am
GG, have a good nite bro.
I got so frustrated went to sleep at 7:30pm and just woke up to the nitemare again. Central time here.
Until we get a professional OL, we need a scrapper like Bruce in there. Sorry but JC is not a leader. A leader doesnt slide 2 yards ahead of the first down marker. JC is just the master of the dump off.
September 13th, 2010 at 5:10 am
– McFadden looked like the running/receiving back the Raiders had envisioned when they drafted him. He’s never ran harder or better from scrimmage, gaining 95 yards with a long of 16. He consistently broke the first tackle and finished runs. He also caught six passes for 55 yards.
“Catching the ball, running with the football, blocking, he was able to convert some plays,” Cable said. “That’s the kind of player we envisioned him being. As I have said all along, if he is healthy, that’s what he’s capable of.”
Said McFadden: “I just feel like I did the best job that I could out there as far as how the coaches use me. You want to go out there and play hard and I feel like I did that today.”
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Any haters willing to suck it up and take one on the chin?
September 13th, 2010 at 5:13 am
Raiders inactives as reported from Nashville: RB Michael Bush, LB Travis Goethel, CB Walter McFadden, WR Chaz Schilens, DT Desmond Bryant, WR Nick Miller, G Bruce Campbell.
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Six players didn’t finish _ Robert Gallery (hamstring), Yamon Figurs (stinger), Hiram Eugene (lower leg), Michael Huff (knee) and Richard Seymour (hamstring).
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Who cares?
We don’t need these guys to lose by 25 at home against STL!
September 13th, 2010 at 5:20 am
When they showed T-Rex Gallery is 30 I laughed , how many seasons have we had him. Dmac ran hard and held onto the ball wasn’t crazy about the drop but he played well. Wow love the O-Line and young WR core just amazing , J.Campbell inspired the entire Raider Nation with his slide in front of the First Down.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Last thing we need Jerry, is to see a slideshow of what made us collectively sick to our stomachs. Please refrain from slideshows in the future unless it’s a win or at least a decent game.
Yesterday’s debacle told us everything we needed to know about this team. They got bullied. They get punched in the mouth and instinctively reach up to touch the blood, and cower backward. Raiders teams of yore were the bullies. This team collectively was psyched out and did not meet the Titan’s intensity. It was embarrassing to root for the 98 pound weakling.
Huff and Branch gave up early backbreaking plays and made a mediocre throwing QB look like Peyton Manning. The run defense seemed to come out with a mission of stopping CJ, but their resolve waned when the secondary made those mistakes.
Compounding the mess, the offensive line was atrocious. LT Henderson looked stuck in the wrong snap count as he got thoroughly quick counted off the line. I felt bad for Campbell as he took a beating. Still, even when he had time, he’d shuffle his feet like a boxer, instead of step up and throw the ball. On the one long throw to Murphy where he zipped it over his head, Campbell had all day, but was doing his Muhammad Ali dance. And Murphy has to go up and get the damn ball. Don’t just wave a hand at it. It should have been caught, but it appeared that Murphy was worrying about getting hit. Damnit guys, this is football, not tennis.
I think that the experiment of Veldheer at center has to end. He is still a good lineman and maybe could stand in for Gallery if Gallery is nicked up. But the line calls lacked any cohesion, and it affected the entire line. I think he pretty much gave away the snap count, as it seemed the Titans would jump just a hair before the ball was snapped. And our own old behemoths like Langston Walker couldn’t resist the urge to flinch in anticipation of the defensive end jumping the count.
Things we must face now. Our entire offensive line is still way below average. It’s too late to fix that now. Maybe next year. Coach Cable, whose forte is coaching and developing offensive lines should be fired just on account of guilt by association. He’s had 2 years make this a serviceable unit, but and it is the absolute weakness of the team. By comparison, do you think a Dungy led team would have a crappy defense? Or a Parcells led team would have a crap offense? So why would a team that has a career line coach have a crap offensive line? Please sign the petition to fire Cable.
I liked what I saw out of McFadden. He’s trying to prove he’s not a bust, but there are others on this team that need to be given their pink slips now. Bring back Stevie Brown, and demote Eugene. Bring back CJ and put Routt back to nickel team. Release Walker. Bring some better safety support…someone make a friggen tackle please. That long TD run by CJ, Rolando McClain got steamrolled in open space, and where was the safety support? 24-3, That was the point I had to turn off the game for awhile and collect my thoughts. It’s tough to continue to watch that garbage play.
We say we have improved, and defy the national media that “hate” us. But they are right to say that our team sucks.
September 13th, 2010 at 5:45 am
yo
September 13th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yes, I didn’t expect to get blown out…but…didn’t expect to win either!
I also believe that DMAC played harder than any player on the team…he got 95 yards against a very good defense! CJ…well you know he was going to break one…also…JC slides before the marker one more time…
September 13th, 2010 at 5:51 am
HairyBush Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Over the course of the previous week I stated my concerns with today’s game.
1) I made clear I did not understand why Yamon butterfingers is returning kicks when he made it apperent he can’t hold onto the ball. I suggested Rock Cartright, he may not be flashy and not really a threat to go all the way, but he can make it to the 30 yard line and most importantly HOLD onto the ball!
2)overall playcalling. Today for example I could not understand why the Raiders went for FG’s when they clearly needed more points, Why not go for it on 4th down when you are down by a ton? It just doesn’t seem like there was any confidence, I’ll even go so far as to say that by the middle of the 3rd quarter they weren’t even trying to win, just trying to make the score not look so bad on paper.
3)Jason Campbell’s intensity. he looked lifeless and uninspired. I figured after he got knocked around a few times he would yell at the line or give some sign of life, he looked like a zombie. I’m not going to sit here and pretend I’m on Grads bandwagon but I will say he at least shows some fire which Jason Campbell and the Raiders did not.
4)I was thinking Darren Mcfadden was going to be a let down today, I was wrong. He was the only sign of life on the Raiders, he ran with heart. I hope he can do it for 16 games.
5) I questioned not playing Veldeer in the final preseason game just to get him more reps. The guy hasn’t played center since high school! Why wouldn’t you get him more reps? Doesn’t make sense to me. I think Veldeer has potential and am not putting him down being it was his 1st real NFL games. I am just questioning Cable’s judgement to throw him into that situation. I understand the other option is nothing special but at least he can snap the ball.
I can say so much more but I am so frustrated with this team I will not bother. I predicted the Raiders would lose today but I genuinenly thought it would be close, What do I know? looks like the Same old Raiders to me.
I will end on a positive note and say maybe by some miracle this game is not what we can expect to see for the rest of the season and we get our act together! GO RAIDERS!
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Rockstar this a repost from yesterday. (You asked if anyone was going to take it on the Chin regarding DMAC)
I have no problem “manning up”, the question is, will the Raiders step up there game?
September 13th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Yes, someone needs to take JC to some baseball camps to teach him how to slide. That one slide where he caught his cleats halfway, I was worried he’d tear up his knee. On the slide where he made 9 meaningless yards, if he just raised his leg up a little and jump slide he’d of made the first down.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:01 am
good points HBush…
What about the overall lack of intensity. Coming out of the tunnel at halftime, the Raiders looked like they knew they were in the middle of a long day. Where were the adjustments? We got some good garbage time momentum, but only after it got out of hand. I wont count that as an adjustment.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,JUST HOPE THAT WAS NOT DMAC’S GAME OF THE YEAR.IF OL GETS BETTER,SO WILL HE,WE HOPE.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:03 am
RaiderDebo Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Titans 38, Raiders 13
6. Calm down, Titans fans. Let’s see how your offense does against the Steelers next week before declaring Tennessee the favorite in the AFC South. The Raiders clearly have done nothing to improve in the offseason. Watching quarterback Jason Campbell struggle makes you realize JaMarcus Russell wasn’t the problem in Oakland. The Raiders dropped their eighth straight season opener in non-competitive fashion.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andrew_perloff/09/12/first.and.10/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0zOKMpBp0
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Even the national media is finally starting to come around.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Rockstar this a repost from yesterday. (You asked if anyone was going to take it on the Chin regarding DMAC)
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Hey, I agree…I was one who was worried that DMac wasn’t going to handle the workload…but man…he was the only player trying to prove something yesterday!!! My hat is off to him for what he did yesterday!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:04 am
JC=no heart whatsoever. Why do you think Shanarat would give him away for nothing? He knew the guy is an older version of JaMarcus. Three times the guy ran, slowed down, attempted to slide and just sat down. No effort, no attempt to make the first down at all. Gutless piece of garbage. This offensive line stinks, but somehow Bruce was able to win with them. Cable is not fit to be the head coach of a girls 8 & under badmiton team. He challanges the spot with less then 2 minutes left in a blowout? Great coaching fat azz. We all drank the koolaid Cable served up.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:05 am
the Raiders looked like they knew they were in the middle of a long day. Where were the adjustments?
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I said the same thing to my friend yesterday while we were watching the game! Unfortunetley garbage time stats mean nothing.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Please tell me that Cable is not this stupid,that he would keep a player on this team like Y.Figurs,amongst other glaring issues–this guy does not have a clue…the team was not prepared for this game,and the combination of him and Uncle Alz is not a good mix for us,S.Routt is not a football player…this does not look good..either Cable is extremely unawares..and-or-Uncle Alz is calling plays from the booth…sumthins got to change.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:10 am
I was thinking Darren Mcfadden was going to be a let down today, I was wrong. He was the only sign of life on the Raiders, he ran with heart.
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HairyBush = a man
September 13th, 2010 at 6:11 am
I was angry for this game but no more. I will just accept whatever comes our way. Usually by week 8 or 9 I am just pleading for the team to be competitive.
Now I am asking for that in week 1.
I understand the “unique” challenges. Let’s hope they have pride.
As for next week, I will NOT be surprised if they lose that one.
Run defense is suspect, the CB opposite Nnamdi gets abused, safeties blamed for long runs, p&ss poor O-Line play and tentative to downright AWFUL QB play.
HOpefully they learn from this. But how many times do you have to learn how not to get your azz stomped.
Tom Cable, Hue Jackson and John Marshall need to step up. Or Al needs to let them…whatever is going on up there…SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE
Constant blowouts are the norm rather than the exception around here.
Thank goodness for fantasy football
September 13th, 2010 at 6:11 am
I just about puked when the commentators were alluding to the fact that since the Raiders sucked with or without JaMarcus, that it wasn’t his fault. That was rubbing in the pain. I’d like to not remember that fata$s anymore.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:12 am
I was one who was worried that DMac wasn’t going to handle the workload…but man…he was the only player trying to prove something yesterday!!! My hat is off to him for what he did yesterday!!!
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Hwnrdr = a man
DMAC channeled his inner Humuhumunukunukuapua’a !!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:15 am
S.Routt is not a football player…this does not look good..either Cable is extremely unawares..and-or-Uncle Alz is calling plays from the booth…sumthins got to change.
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who called it first regarding “toast” Routt ???
the sideline sure helped him against Nate Washington, didn’t it?
please tell me how CJ37 could have done a WORSE job on that play – I’ll wait
if CJ37 is healthy, he should be starting … period
September 13th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Fire Cable now. He really looked retarded calling for a timeout to challenge in a game long decided with 2 minutes left. If he’s so concerned with erasing a 25 point deficit, why is he still kicking FG’s in the 4th qtr? He’s got the look on his face, really of the definition of dumbazz.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Haha…that he did Rockstar!
He channeled everything that came his way!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Run defense is suspect
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S&B: suspect?
39 carries, 205 yards & 3 TD’s
thats downright awful imo!
and yes, the big runs DO count …
September 13th, 2010 at 6:19 am
I liked when Jerry sarcastically called out “Darius Heyward Bey, anyone?” during one of his updates. You know where he stands on Jerry’s list.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Run defense is suspect
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S&B: suspect?
39 carries, 205 yards & 3 TD’s
thats downright awful imo!
and yes, the big runs DO count …
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I agree!
But I still feel, and Cam Inman, or Steve Corkran (sp?) agreed with me saying that DMac outplayed CJ…except for that long run of course…but 150 yards run/catch against a way better Defense!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:20 am
repost from yesterday (nobody responded – everybody was drunk)
ok, so whose the freakin loser that tried to convince everybody the run defense was fixed ???
39 carries, 205 yards & 3 TD’s
McClain = Morrison
Houston = Seymour (at end)
Seymour = Warren (at tackle)
Kelly & Routt = hot garbage (still – not again)
nothing has changed. We should have kept #52 and drafted Dan Williams or Terrence Cody!
a few observations:
Branch can’t cover Scaife and where was Mike Mitchell on the play? rushing the QB …
CJ’s 2nd rushing TD was right at ShoNasty & Eugene. he walked right into the endzone
CJ’s first TD was right at Wimbley & Branch
I thought Scott & Huff were the weak links on run D ???
September 13th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Rockstar,
Sadly, the team looked exactly like years past in every facet.
They look so unprofessional sometimes. Really. They look slow on both sides of the ball..and the flow is just miserable.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Hey, DHB made a catch and a crucial one inside the 3 that setup DMac’s and the Raiders lone TD…What was up with Murphy dropping that one in the endzone? That was way more inexcusable than DHB disappearing like he always does…
September 13th, 2010 at 6:23 am
DMac outplayed CJ
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if McFadden suited up for the Titans yesterday he would have had more highlites than Texans RB Arian Foster!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:24 am
THE VISION OF MARIO HENDERSON STANDING THERE WITH HIS ARMS AT HIS SIDES WATCHING THE BALL ROLL AROOUND UNTIL A TITAN GRAB’D IT….
September 13th, 2010 at 6:25 am
SnB offense defense specialteams :
is it too early to start the petition for a Nose Tackle in April 2011 ???
September 13th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Rockstar,
You know my position on the run defense.
They actually looked good for a while…but then again…that’s always the case.
Scheme problems in Oakland for sure….
September 13th, 2010 at 6:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:25 am
SnB offense defense specialteams :
is it too early to start the petition for a Nose Tackle in April 2011 ???
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There are so many holes on this team….well at least it looks like there are a lot of holes after week 1.
I would trade Bruce Gradkowski and get some help for the lines. If Super Bruce is such a star talent…surely we can get something in return right?
September 13th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Did Yamon Figurs ever get the ball past the 20? If the opposing kick team is going to kick into the end zone, please take the gift and kneel down. At least we dont have a 50% chance of fumbling the ball or starting on the 12 yard line. Forchrisakes!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:27 am
What was up with Murphy dropping that one in the endzone? That was way more inexcusable than DHB disappearing like he always does…
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Hwnrdr:
to be fair, Murphy dropped one like he always does (9 drops last year)
was Heyward-Bey in that movie “Ghost” ???
September 13th, 2010 at 6:28 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:24 am
THE VISION OF MARIO HENDERSON STANDING THERE WITH HIS ARMS AT HIS SIDES WATCHING THE BALL ROLL AROOUND UNTIL A TITAN GRAB’D IT….
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OMFG!!!! Clueless leading the blind clueless!!! Good thing his fat arse standing there at least touched the Titan player….
SNB…the scheme is Al Davis…think about it…John Marshall ran the D in Seattle when they almost won the SB…weren’t they blitzing Big Ben all day???
September 13th, 2010 at 6:30 am
is anybody still concerned about TScott starting at end over ShoNasty ???
Scott wasn’t the victim on any of those huge running plays and ShoNasty sacked VY (Scott didn’t)
September 13th, 2010 at 6:30 am
WELL SAID SnB POST-49
September 13th, 2010 at 6:32 am
JC is the older brother of JaMarcus. Except JaMarcus wouldn’t have slowed down, attempted to slide & just sat 2 yards short of the first down. Al compared JC to Jim Plunkett? Yea similar size, arm strength & mobility. One big difference….Plunkett had huge heart. JC has zero. How many players were wearing the T shirts under their jersey that said they would take the AFC West & then the Super Bowl??? JC was wearing his T shirt that read “Can’t wait to get my check on Tuesday”
September 13th, 2010 at 6:32 am
who called it first regarding “toast” Routt ???
the sideline sure helped him against Nate Washington, didn’t it?
please tell me how CJ37 could have done a WORSE job on that play – I’ll wait
if CJ37 is healthy, he should be starting … period
Yeah; All of a sudden S.Routt is supposed to be Michael Haynes or Willie Brown,this is a joke,that was just 1 amongst a # of things that happened…the team is a reflection of the Ownership and its Head-Coach, another problem is we can have good players but they are not being put into positions that can maximize there effectiveness (thats coaching) I agree that at least 1 thing should have been is that C.Johnson would have started over Routt, unless he is injured, there is no excuse for this.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:33 am
is anybody still concerned about TScott starting at end over ShoNasty ???
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I think we need to roll with Shaughnessy and see what we got, Scott is a one-trick pony that is a liability in coverage and usually the run d too. They keep trying to plug him in like a square block in a round hole on this defense.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:34 am
All I am saying is the team has huge holes in key positions.
Since Gradkowski is a star…certainly we could get a serviceable Left or Right Tackle….how about a backup Center somewhere. Or just draft picks.
Gotta make the move while the iron is hot
September 13th, 2010 at 6:35 am
I live in Missouri and watched the Rams/Cards game yesterday.
I’m concerned about our home opener.
Sam Bradford is a better QB than Vince Young already!
good thing they don’t have many WR options …
that Rams D looks friggin tough & scary. I thought for sure Derek Anderson was gonna get a concussion. I’m not sure how many times they actually sacked him, but he hit the turf HARD just about every other play.
and Ron Bartell dropped like 3 potential INT’s that hit him in the hands or chest (should we move Louis Murphy to DB?)
September 13th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Lure Mawae out of retirement.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:36 am
I say but Scott back on as a TE…at least he can help block (or can he?)
September 13th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Amazingly, the Raiders are -4.5 point favorites next week.
Our run D may get let off the hook a little. Rams threw the ball 55 times in a game they were leading, tied or never more than down by one score the whole game.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:38 am
I’m not worried about that one, Rockstar! The Rams only can get better, but AZ is NOT what they was even last year. But…why do I get this funny feeling that….Stephen Jackson from the 1 (their 1)
September 13th, 2010 at 6:39 am
I would trade Bruce Gradkowski and get some help for the lines. If Super Bruce is such a star talent…surely we can get something in return right?
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Why are you such a hater SnB?
The one guy at QB the last 5 years, who actually made some plays and made the O-line not look entirely pathetic, and you want to get rid of him to prove a point.
Who cares if it was a few games, one game, or one quarter like you like to say? That is one more game or quarter more than anyone else!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:40 am
S&B: regarding the OL
Veldheer should have been exclusively playing LT since Day 1 after being drafted. Why didn’t Mario Henderson need competition after giving up the league’s most sacks? We had Jared at center and Barnes at guard
Cable is an idiot. plain & simple
the line should look like this:
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Henderson/Barnes
September 13th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Two things that made me happy yesterday after a ver BAD Raider game!!!
1. My dad screaming because his 49ers lost 31-6 to Seattle (I didn’t know until I called him).
2. Dallas going down in DC!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:40 am
S&B: regarding the OL
Veldheer should have been exclusively playing LT since Day 1 after being drafted. Why didn’t Mario Henderson need competition after giving up the league’s most sacks? We had Jared at center and Barnes at guard
Cable is an idiot. plain & simple
the line should look like this:
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Henderson/Barnes
I FN AGREE!!!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Rockstar,
So your suprise team (Bears) and my suprise team (Redskins) both won yesterday.
Who do you think will go furthur??
September 13th, 2010 at 6:42 am
JFB,
Let’s just hope the Raiders don’t embarrass themselves.
Give me 4Qtrs of fundamentally sound football….
not 12 penalties, false starts, not knowing snap counts, bad snaps, poor reads, dropped passes, unfilled gaps, missed tackles, and about the worst coaching in a generation.
How about a boring well executed game plan. Keep it simple….short slants, more runs than passes….and a defense that may send a blitz once in a while and have safeties and corners not getting burned for 70 yards.
I am still disappointed, but not shocked, that this team looked like it was their first practice together.
Embarrassing.
Just compete baby….don’t care about wins and losses
September 13th, 2010 at 6:43 am
So your suprise team (Bears) and my suprise team (Redskins) both won yesterday.
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JFB, let the games begin
Bears = 9-7 (2nd place in division, wildcard)
Redskins = 8-8 (3rd place in division, no playoff birth)
September 13th, 2010 at 6:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:40 am
S&B: regarding the OL
Veldheer should have been exclusively playing LT since Day 1 after being drafted. Why didn’t Mario Henderson need competition after giving up the league’s most sacks? We had Jared at center and Barnes at guard
Cable is an idiot. plain & simple
the line should look like this:
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Henderson/Barnes
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Maybe…but its too late now. Cable ain’t going back on his deal…this is his project ala Kwame Harris style.
The line is an unmitigated mess.
They need to trade whatever “tradeable” talent is on the roster and secure a tackle and guard. Satele back at center…at least he does the line calls and can snap the ball….and get Veldheer in at Right Tackle and Barnes at Left Tackle.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:46 am
My congrats go out to Exla, who completely mopped the floor with me in Dell’s fantasy league
I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get BLOWOUT OF THE WEEK
Crabtree choked (2 catches for 12 yards) and I should have started the Giants D instead of the Packers D!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Picture #18 tells its own story
Shanahan would not do any favours for Al Davis ..JC is not a better QB than #5 thats clear to see,he had most of the reps during camp but still looked confused
September 13th, 2010 at 6:49 am
I just hate how the Raiders look PHYSICALLY overwhelmed on the football field.
OVERWHELMED!
Something is either wrong with the preparation or the talent.
YOu should not get blown out like this so often. THats what makes them bad. And the way they play, it usually doesn’t matter who the opponent is.
These blowouts take the fun out of watching them play.
Its sad when they are down 24-6 at halftime…game over.
Just when will this ragtag group of fringe players get sick and tired of getting blown out.
The losing I can handle…and have accepted because of the “unique” challenges.
Its the blowouts I can’t stand!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:50 am
HWNRDR,LOOK’S LIKE PARKING LOT ACCESS WILL BE EASY THIS WEEK ,EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE HOME OPENER…
September 13th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Violent Hands Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Picture #18 tells its own story
Shanahan would not do any favours for Al Davis ..JC is not a better QB than #5 thats clear to see,he had most of the reps during camp but still looked confused
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So why do the Raiders always end up with fringe NFL players at the most important positions.
ITs been like this for 25 years!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:53 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:50 am
HWNRDR,LOOK’S LIKE PARKING LOT ACCESS WILL BE EASY THIS WEEK ,EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE HOME OPENER…
That’s what I said about…say 11AM yesterday…
September 13th, 2010 at 6:54 am
They looked MENTALLY overwhelmed too. Kill the head the body follows. Fire Cable.
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:49 am
I just hate how the Raiders look PHYSICALLY overwhelmed on the football field.
OVERWHELMED!
Something is either wrong with the preparation or the talent.
YOu should not get blown out like this so often. THats what makes them bad. And the way they play, it usually doesn’t matter who the opponent is.
These blowouts take the fun out of watching them play.
Its sad when they are down 24-6 at halftime…game over.
Just when will this ragtag group of fringe players get sick and tired of getting blown out.
The losing I can handle…and have accepted because of the “unique” challenges.
Its the blowouts I can’t stand!
September 13th, 2010 at 6:55 am
YES,THANKS 4 THE SLIDE-SHOW JERRY,NOW CAN U SHOW ME PHOTO’S OF MY HOUSE BURNING DOWN, OR MY CAR WITH A COUPLE OF FLAT TIRE’S.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I have been one of the sharpest critics of both Darren and JC amongst the semi-pro’s.
I never would have imagined Darren looked that good, and never could have imagined Jason would look that bad.
He was like Michael Spinks out there. Just taking a dive, collect his check and hope he maintains his health.
Can’t have that at the QB position, because EVERY NFL team takes on the mentality of the QB, either conciscously or sub-conciscously.
September 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
the root of the problem is in training camp..none of the players are being held accountable because some of the old school Raider traditions just dont work in the modern day NFL..
thousands of fans watching you practice everyday makes a big difference and makes you attend to detail..
minimal blocking and tackling because your afraid to get guys hurt..so how do you find out how tough they are? its obvious when you watch, this team dosent hit in practice…they just read the company-line afterwards.. `that practice was so tough and everything is comming together BS`
September 13th, 2010 at 7:03 am
I think there is a lack of talent on both lines
it’s not a matter of being “coached up” or “developed”
I’m done blaming asst coaches & coordinators
Davis & Cable put together these lines and they aren’t up to NFL standard
Cable’s post game presser just says “little details” are the reason why we lost by 25 to the Titans, who weren’t even a playoff team last year. Cable says we’re playoff calibur – did it look like that to you fellas ???
September 13th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Jerry, Is this slideshow a ploy to motivate us fans? Is this what they show the players? One picture speaks a thousand words, so 54 pics speaks 54K words. You’ve done your work in words for a month. Please write us a nice bedtime story. Please concoct a positive spin/storyline and attempt to blow some fairydust smoke up our azz article. I’d like to hear that we aren’t this bad.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:05 am
JFB: Manning threw for 425+ yards and 3 TD’s yesterday
they couldn’t run the ball or stop the run and got smoked by the usually pass happy Texans …
thoughts ???
September 13th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Violent Hands Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
thousands of fans watching you practice everyday makes a big difference and makes you attend to detail..
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I’ve been thinking the same exact thing. The Raider players are in a protected cocoon.
Shielded from the media..shielded from the fans…shielded from any scrutiny.
Allowed to look great amongst the vineyards of Napa.
But then look TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL come game day.
Like I’ve said before, just compete…stop these obscene blowouts
September 13th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Gradkowski played WELL last year w/ the same pathetic line.
He earned the starting position.
Raiders brought in mediocre Campbell with a loser attitude.
And this is what happens.
He needs to be yanked NOW.
Chances are tho, they’ll go 0-4 before they make the change.
Evryone can see it.
Coaching staff has heads up their @sses.
Receivers who can’t catch a ball that bounces off their hands or who are unwilling to take the effort to reach up w/ 2 hands should be cut.
and Campbell stinks.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:06 am
I was very impressed with McFadden yesterday. What said a lot for him in my opinion was how he looked in the first quarter. Jersey covered in grass and HUGE blue mark on his helmet. He got after someone and had a hell of a day. He looked every bit the #4 overall draft pick, and at least gave us something to build from.
JC just got abused man… another very telling play, we took a f*@k!ng KNEE on second down in the second quarter… did that really happen?
If we dont go get some OLineman this week Cable will be gone by week 4.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:07 am
the pix were courtesy of Jon Becker (the mod)
like it or not, those pics tell the story of what actually transpired on the field yesterday
September 13th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Dakota said a few things this offseason:
Cable sux
O-Line sux
McFadden is a good player (rue the day)
pretty good weekend for him, except ND lost to Mich
ouch!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Guys…I’ll say it one more time.
You need guys like Manning, Brady, Rivers and company to win in this league consistently.
Not scrappy players who use their feet. Of course retreads that can’t get the ball off doesn’t work either.
Its all an indictment on the General Manager for the predictament this team finds itself in every year. They haven’t had a good QB since Plunkett…and Gannon was Gruden’s boy….
I am not sure that the QB is the problem right now. That line is good for nothing…screens were batted, lineman false starting and too many other penalties, Left Tackle not leaving his stance….
You can’t win without a line….and if you need a mobile QB because your line is garbage…your season is already over…
September 13th, 2010 at 7:14 am
I was never sold on the McFadden being a bum lines but I thought the TRADE DMAC rants were hilarious. Im glad he had a good game, but I thing we should definitely see if he can string a few of those together… If our OLine made the trip to Tennessee you think he could have broke 100?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
You know, the one thing that keeps repeating in here are: Gradkowski played well with the same O-line and even willed his way to a win against the mighty Steelers!!! That’s heart…that’s determination!!! That is what we need!!! 53 players with that same mentality!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:17 am
JFB: Manning threw for 425+ yards and 3 TD’s yesterday
they couldn’t run the ball or stop the run and got smoked by the usually pass happy Texans …
thoughts ???
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Likely will be playing in the AFC championship game.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I am not sure that the QB is the problem right now. That line is good for nothing…screens were batted, lineman false starting and too many other penalties, Left Tackle not leaving his stance….
You can’t win without a line….and if you need a mobile QB because your line is garbage…your season is already over…
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Agreed 100 percent
JCamp didn’t win over any Raider fans who were on the fence about him, but he didn’t have much help from the O-Line or defense either. and there were some drops out there too
September 13th, 2010 at 7:17 am
what up Nation???
September 13th, 2010 at 7:18 am
That whole game can be attributed to our HORRIBLE OLine.. JC got abused right from play one and he was playing tentative and scared… rightfully so. Everyone on the line other than Gallery needs to be replaced immediately. Sign Groves (at least he is a real NFL center) Sign Ugoh, trade for Mankins
September 13th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Speaking of balls being batted down yesterday…JC threw the ball into the hands that were batting it down…
September 13th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Likely will be playing in the AFC championship game
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the Texans?
wow! bold prediction from JFB (Vegas)
September 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Those screen passes were batted down partly because JC just locked in on them as soon as he started his back-peddle.
You watch the Brett Favre’s, Peyton Manning’s, Tony Romo’s, Donovan McNabb’s…..these guys are always faking one way, going the other, looking people off.
The guy is 6′4, and every team runs a screen when basically the O-lineman don’t even block the D-lineman, and they never have three screens batted down in one game.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:20 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams
Shielded from the media..shielded from the fans…shielded from any scrutiny.
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the main reason why this team dont win anymore
September 13th, 2010 at 7:20 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
You know, the one thing that keeps repeating in here are: Gradkowski played well with the same O-line and even willed his way to a win against the mighty Steelers!!! That’s heart…that’s determination!!! That is what we need!!! 53 players with that same mentality!!!
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Not the same OLine. Veldheer made Satele look like a freakin pro bowler. Henderson is getting worse by the week. Walker… well He is the SAME guy we cut 3 years ago…. Grads would have had heart and determination all the way to Injured Reserve yesterday…
September 13th, 2010 at 7:21 am
LOL…..no the Colts.
If your QB can throw for 420 yards, you have a chance to win every week.
Didn’t the Colts win their only Super Bowl when they were 29th in rush defense, and gave up an NFL record for rushing yards in one game to the Jags??? (The answer is yes)
September 13th, 2010 at 7:22 am
they looked like they had a new game plan on friday night (al’s contribution) and never practiced it on saturday.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:22 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
You know, the one thing that keeps repeating in here are: Gradkowski played well with the same O-line and even willed his way to a win against the mighty Steelers!!! That’s heart…that’s determination!!! That is what we need!!! 53 players with that same mentality!!!
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I am not into looking for Savior’s.
They don’t exist.
If Gradkowski was the man…he’d be the starter right now. The coaches and Al Davis went out of their way to make a run at McNabb..when that failed they went with Campbell.
They saw something they didn’t like in Gradkowski and are certainly looking at more film than just the 4th QTR of the Palomaluless Steelers, another team that failed to make the playoffs BTW…AND went ahead and replaced that secondary.
I don’t believe in saviors and I hate the concept of the underdog.
You win with the best players who have talent AND heart.
If Gradkowski gives the team a chance to win…if he makes us playoff caliber…why isn’t he playing then?
Either your Owner and GM is incompetent or Gradkowski is just not that good.
Which is it?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
In the game against the 49ers in preseason, the one where Campbell was sacked and beat into a golf cart, Bruce came in WITH THE SAME EXACT LINE, and wasn’t sacked once and left the game grinning from ear to ear.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
all jeff fisher had to do was bring up film from 1985 when he was playing and say it’s the same thing go get em. as soon as you see 7 step drop (every passing down) delay blitz.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Thanks Bcz…but that will that Grads has…I think he is the only one on that team…well, besides DMac yesterday!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
all jeff fisher had to do was bring up film from 1985 when he was playing and say it’s the same thing go get em. as soon as you see 7 step drop (every passing down) delay blitz.
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hahahahahahahaha…
September 13th, 2010 at 7:24 am
grads isn’t playing because al davis made the decision on campbell based on his ability to throw deep balls and that is all that matters to al. hence russell.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:25 am
They saw something they didn’t like in Gradkowski and are certainly looking at more film than just the 4th QTR of the Palomaluless Steelers
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could it be his propensity to injury?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Even though we looked bad, all is not lost. Lets see how we do in the home opener… we still have 15 games left…
September 13th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Ok guys…look deeper into my post….Grads has heart and will and determination! Shouldn’t we demand that from all our players? And JFB said it right…Bruce came in that game with the same line!!! JC is starting because Al paid him til next year… not saying JC CAN’T be the guy…but he looked lifeless out there yesterday!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:29 am
look on the bright side, we found dmac he had some swivel to him afterall. now if he can stay healthy and reproduce his results when we get bush back and have a thunder and lightening tandem we get be a good power run team. maybe our best option. get’s them tough, being a run team and that’s what we need.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
In the game against the 49ers in preseason, the one where Campbell was sacked and beat into a golf cart, Bruce came in WITH THE SAME EXACT LINE, and wasn’t sacked once and left the game grinning from ear to ear
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Ok…so why isn’t he starting then?
I have no allegiance to Campbell per se….I just want to win…and I have grave doubts that Gradkowski is the answer.
I keep seeing JT O’Sullivan, Shaun Hill and Jon Kitna…You will get a spark..but the limitations become crystal clear in due time and change occurs….
If Gradkowski is a playoff caliber QB, why would the raiders experiment with a former 1st round bust with damaged goods?
Unless one thinks the RAiders don’t care about winning anymore.
I just don’t think Gradkowski is that good….sorry
September 13th, 2010 at 7:31 am
just the fact that shanahan dealt campbell to us should send alarms out. first thing shanahan did was look at his qb and decided jc has got to go, call the raiders.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:33 am
i am in grads camp and have been since last year. guys fiery and gutsy and that crap rubs off. henderson needs someone to baby sit his focus out there and obviously jc didn’t get that memo.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:34 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Ok guys…look deeper into my post….Grads has heart and will and determination! Shouldn’t we demand that from all our players? And JFB said it right…Bruce came in that game with the same line!!! JC is starting because Al paid him til next year… not saying JC CAN’T be the guy…but he looked lifeless out there yesterday!
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NO!
The freekn GM and Coaches should only recruit and start players that have those characteristics and replace players that don’t have them.
Talent AND heart is not an option…its mandatory!
Campbell was damaged goods coming in…Gradkowski was damaged goods coming in.
Both have played a good game here and there.
I am just frustrated with the “quick fix” mentality that goes with the Gradkowski crowd.
The guy is a career 53% passer who’s won-loss record mirrors Campbell.
There is NO SAVIOR here.
Unless the Raiders are so inept as to completely miss a playoff QB right in front of their noses while playing a QB that may be out of the league in a year or two.
Makes no sense!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:34 am
if you think it’s going to get better with jc think again. defenders know that he loves to check down, so cover the closest receivers and blitz.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:33 am
i am in grads camp and have been since last year. guys fiery and gutsy and that crap rubs off. henderson needs someone to baby sit his focus out there and obviously jc didn’t get that memo.
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Nope. The answer is to get a real Left Tackle that doesn’t need baby sitting.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
does people here still think we will win the division??
or do they think as me, that we will fight for #3 spot?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
SnB,
Who is saying he is a playoff caliber QB? You keep stretching these points to prove whatever it is you are trying to prove.
We all just want TO SEE if last year was a fluke, or if he can build on it that success. It’s not like it will take 3 years to figure it out, 4-5 games should do.
The reason he isn’t playing is because Al Davis is set in his ways. He made moves to replace the NFL MVP because he didn’t have a strong enough arm, lol!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:36 am
jc’s decision making is quite a bit slower than grads’ too. grads get’s rid of the ball quicker and has more pocket awareness. jc didn’t feel some of that pressure you could tell.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Here’s how I would try to fix the O-line with the pieces we have:
Left tackle: Khalif Barnes
Left guard: Robert Gallery (Daniel Loper if Gallery’s hurt)
Center: Jared Veldheer
Right guard: Langston Walker
Right tackle: Mario Henderson
Barnes is nothing spectacular, but he has at least shown he can be a successful left tackle in this league, which is more than one can say for Henderson.
Gallery at left guard is self-explanatory and Loper is the best option for backup.
I wouldn’t pull the plug on the Veldheer at center experiment just yet. I’d see how he handles the next two games. First, going against the Rams, who don’t exactly have a spectacular defensive interior, should give him some good experience. Second, going against Arizona’s 3-4 in week three will let us know if he can handle the big nose tackles. If he continues to struggle, then it’s time to put Satele back in or, preferably, sign Justin Hartwig.
Walker’s at right guard would be putting him back where he looked good last year and his size would be an asset in the “phone booth” and his lack of speed would be disguised to a degree.
Henderson at right tackle would allow him to concentrate on his strength–run blocking–as well as get him away from the speed rushers he can’t handle as a left tackle. Plus, it would allow Campbell to see the rushers coming if (when) they do get by Henderson.
That’s the best solution I can offer with the pieces we’ve got.
Looking at this year’s upcoming draft, outside of the first round, it’s a pretty weak crop. So, if I were GM, I’d be on the phone to AJ Smith in San Diego and Belichick in New England offering every draft pick I could to get Marcus McNeill and/or Logan Mankins. If there’s a year to trade away all your draft picks, 2011 is it.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:37 am
snb, we got what we got in lt. it is what it is. i didn’t mention that as an option because it’s obvious that henderson is a special player (project)
September 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
new england wouldn’t deal mankins to us, they have our number one pick next year, think they are going to help us out?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Wow…I never said that Bruce was the answer either…and I agree with that line that the GM and coaches should start players that have those characteristics…but, do we? And yes, i know that Bruce won that game in the 4th qtr against a Polomaluless Steelers and I know had Troy been playing we probably would not have won… I’m just saying that JC looked lifeless out there and yes…defenders know that he checks down…so its easier to defend against him!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
this quote from jc is telling….
Said Campbell: “It’s tough. A lot of our plays are designed to go downfield. It makes it a lot harder, those guys getting a good (pass) rush the way they did. Sometimes you just check it down.”
seven step drop, watch for delayed blitz cause all the teams will be doing it
September 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
SnB,
Who is saying he is a playoff caliber QB? You keep stretching these points to prove whatever it is you are trying to prove.
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Well, if he’s not a playoff caliber QB then you are saying that he is marginally better or the same as Campbell.
Way too deterministic to push for a change after 1 week of action.
Assuming Campbell wasn’t dranking….and overweight and missing meetings…he should be the starter assuming he outplayed Gradkowski and Boller in training camp.
I wouldn’t push for change now since both QBs are roughly the same talent.
As for your comments about Davis…isn’t that the root cause of this mess? You HAVE to be able to evaluate talent. If one cant’ do that…you can’t win!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Grads is used to playing for the University of Toledo’s, the Bucs, Browns and Raiders.
He knows he is 6′1 and throws side-arm. That’s why he has all these little tricks on getting rid of the ball quicker, running around, throwing sidearm passes like the TD to JLH the last preseason game.
He is the perfect flawed QB for a flawed team. JC played for an Auburn team that had NFL talent everywhere, and than went to play for the Redskins who made the playoffs in his rookie year while he sat and watched.
JC might be a Pro Bowler for the Patriots or Jets, but he is not equipted to play for a team with serious holes.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:44 am
makes what dmac did even more impressive because we are a very predictable team and they know jc is going to check down and they know to send a blitz and they know when we are going to run.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:50 am
SnB,
We are just going to go around and around here this morning, no sense doing that.
Just do me a favor, when Bruce comes in and the whole team looks better, don’t give me the “if they all played like that for JC” and “if he is so good why did other teams get rid of him” lines.
Just let him come in with a clean slate and see what happens. If he sucks, I will admit it, if he doesn’t, I want you to admit it.
Deal?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Left guard: Robert Gallery (Daniel Loper if Gallery’s hurt)
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PA: who filled in for Gallery when he pulled a hammy yesterday ???
September 13th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Louis Murphy had a TD not counted last year vs SD because he didn’t finish the catch no big deal except to Raiders fans, same type play for Lions and its a National Travesty.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Wasn’t Loper in there for Gallerey yesterday?
September 13th, 2010 at 7:53 am
RaiderRockstar,
I thought it was Loper, which is why I listed him as the main backukp for Gallery…I admit I could be mistaken though
September 13th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Exactly!!! but at least we were not the only ones!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:55 am
I’m not ready to call Jason Campbell a bust yet.
I’m not ready to say that Bruce Gradkowski is better than him, either.
I still think JCamp is the man. He simply doesn’t have the tools in place to be successful. Are there a few plays from yesterday he’d like to have back? sure
Keep in mind this is his 9th different play caller in as many seasons and he’s probably playing at less than 100 percent (SF game). I think he gets better as the season progresses and the run defense remains among the league’s worst
7-9 at best this year, unfortunately
September 13th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Are we all excited to watch Javier Arenas return kicks tonight for the Chiefs??
Hope he houses one and the Chefs win, while both Cassel and Rivers blow out their knees.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Louis Murphy had a TD not counted last year vs SD because he didn’t finish the catch no big deal except to Raiders fans, same type play for Lions and its a National Travesty.
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Calvin Johnson is one of the league’s best WR’s
LouMurph had 8 other drops last year as a rookie 4th rounder – also a bad route runner
big difference!
Darrius Heyward-Ghost needs to step up and be the team’s #1 WR or we’re done for
However, my boy JLH had 3 yards from scrimmage yesterday. whoop whoop!
September 13th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Rockstar,
Pretty sure Bruce has had similar situations with play-callers in his years in the league.
Does he get the same lee-way if he takes a snap and just takes a knee?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:00 am
I believe Yamon Figurs is our leading producer at the WR position right now, lol.
I’m ready for the Nick Miller era to begin.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:50 am
SnB,
We are just going to go around and around here this morning, no sense doing that.
Just do me a favor, when Bruce comes in and the whole team looks better, don’t give me the “if they all played like that for JC” and “if he is so good why did other teams get rid of him” lines.
Just let him come in with a clean slate and see what happens. If he sucks, I will admit it, if he doesn’t, I want you to admit it.
Deal?
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No! Actually I will be more fired up.
I will ask why the HELL the coaches and the owner elected to throw away yet ANOTHER season.
I was livid last year for the same reason. If you KNOW the better guy is on the bench…then he should freekn play.
But I know that many love good ole Al and his idiosyncracies…..I can’t stand it!
Play the best f’n player! Is that hard?
So no, if Gradkowski rips it up after week 5 or so…then I will probably start sounding more like MR and company than they could ever sound like.
This abyss of blowouts week after week after week has to stop and if it could be prevented in TRAINING CAMP than it should be allowed to be prevented.
STOP USING THE FIRST 8 WEEKS OF THE SEASON LIKE ITS OTAS AND TRAINING CAMP
September 13th, 2010 at 8:03 am
I’m ready for the Nick Miller era to begin.
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I like Nick, but he is like what number 7 on the depth chart… Long time before he sees the field…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Does he get the same lee-way if he takes a snap and just takes a knee?
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Gradkowski had his chance to be the starting QB here and lost it due to injury.
2 shredded knees allowed Frye to come in last year.
a torn pec & groin strain allowed Kyle Boller to make the roster and push for the #2 job (and JCamp the unquestioned starter)
the polish popgun simply isn’t durable enough – especially behind this garbage O-Line
September 13th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Bruce would be the starter if it was not for blowing out both his knees last year. JC would not be a Raider if not for Bruce being injury prone.
Hue gets the blame for the offense, Al gets the blame for not upgrading the Oline (he worked on D instead)
And Cable gets blame for getting blown out again.
But its crazy all the hate in here for Cable. Hue made all the calls yesterday and his O could not execute a simple screen pass. How about that pass to the RB? who passed to JC who took off running without looking to see if anyone was open.
Bottom line the Titans threw the kitchen sink at the O line and they were not anywhere near ready for it. And the QB sucked royally. Looked like a rookie, not a pro who has been starting for 5? years.
Heres hoping we can do something about being blitzed because every team will do it untill we stop it. The only good news is most teams do not have the horses to run it all dam day. The other good news is Bruce will put a stop to it when he gets his chance
September 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
I forgot to mention the HUGE jump the Titans were getting. It was if they knew the snap count.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am
so much for Seymour & Kelly dominating Jake Scott, Eugene Amano & Leroy Harris, eh ???
LOL!
you guys crack me up
September 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Yeah it was pretty schitty
September 13th, 2010 at 8:08 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am
so much for Seymour & Kelly dominating Jake Scott, Eugene Amano & Leroy Harris, eh ???
LOL!
you guys crack me up
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LOL….Henderson didnt look too bad out there
September 13th, 2010 at 8:08 am
ltr…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:08 am
DMac is the leading receiver… 6 catches for 55 yds, with ZMiller in second 4 catches for 43yds. Louis Murphy was the leading WR with 4 catches for 28yds. So essentially our offense looked exactly the same, except Jamarcus got to sit home and laugh.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:42 am
this quote from jc is telling….
Said Campbell: “It’s tough. A lot of our plays are designed to go downfield. It makes it a lot harder, those guys getting a good (pass) rush the way they did. Sometimes you just check it down.”
seven step drop, watch for delayed blitz cause all the teams will be doing it
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So I would hope that we change our play calling somewhat to compensate for the lack of time…
we saw in preseason what our edges were going to look like.
you need time to pull off the 7 step drop… we dont have that luxury…Change the game planning to suit your team….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Hue gets the blame for the offense
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Plunk: good point
Raider fans often forget that the previos two stints as OC for Hue Jax (Washington, Atlanta) were not successful
September 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
bcz24 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:08 am
DMac is the leading receiver… 6 catches for 55 yds, with ZMiller in second 4 catches for 43yds. Louis Murphy was the leading WR with 4 catches for 28yds. So essentially our offense looked exactly the same, except Jamarcus got to sit home and laugh.
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BRL plays they would have had 10 sacks….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
snb,
But I know that many love good ole Al and his idiosyncracies…..I can’t stand it!
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I am not sure many love al, i think he has bloggers working for him that state their love for him because they have to.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
DMAC is the man!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Hue gets the blame for the offense
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Plunk: good point
Raider fans often forget that the previos two stints as OC for Hue Jax (Washington, Atlanta) were not successful
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I dont think anyone forgot… The “fans” just have a lot of optimisim… what were you right about hue????
September 13th, 2010 at 8:11 am
LOL Hobs……mark me down
September 13th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Despite all the kool aid drinking about playoffs, the bottom line is 8-8 would be a good year and most of us would be happy that we made it that far.
Al will get some oline help and we know he will switch coaches when he thinks the team is ready. But for now we need a dam QB. Lots of QB’s do very well with crappy olines
September 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
thec,
al wants the team to play a certain way, why do you think they have so many calls to go vertical? it’s not the coaches, it’s al and they do not have the option to run what they want.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am
so much for Seymour & Kelly dominating Jake Scott, Eugene Amano & Leroy Harris, eh ???
LOL!
you guys crack me up
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so what did you expect to happen???
September 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
LOL you guys killing me with the QB change talk now…..Grads would netted the same result…..all five members of the oline were awful….im sure Bama woulda beat them
September 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
oh yeah bauce, you are down. lol
September 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
what were you right about hue????
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Thec: No, I said that JCamp & Hue Jax were the two biggest additions this offseason
But as far as predictions go I only said that Jackson “has to be an improvement over Cable” – which remains to be seen
September 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
dmac is getting picked up as a free agent on most fantasy leagues!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Aint this the truth
133.NoMoreFargas Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Louis Murphy had a TD not counted last year vs SD because he didn’t finish the catch no big deal except to Raiders fans, same type play for Lions and its a National Travesty.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
When your offensive line stinks, you need a QB that can improvise and make positive things happen.
That is NOT Jason Campbell.
Jason Campbell looks the part — tall, angular, athletic, strong arm, nice spiral — but he won’t get the job done. And it’s not just because he’s playing behind a bunch of turds masquerading as an NFL offensive line.
Nope, Jason Campbell won’t get it done because he can’t think on his feet, or successfully improvise when a play breaks down. All he will do is check down and pad his completion percentage, but he will not get you a crucial first down with a pass in any long yardage situation. That’s not his game. And to be a better than average QB at the NFL level, you’ve got to be able to react, think, move and then throw an accurate, catchable pass. Campbell can not do that.
He’s a scrub. Period. End of story.
You guys can laugh all you want, but the Raids do have a QB that doesn’t look the part — but he’s the real deal. He doesn’t have the ideal size or the cannon arm. But he’s smart, he’s a leader, he improvises, he can move, he sees the field, and most importantly – he throws an accurate, catchable ball.
Again, laugh all you want, but Bruce Gradkowski is one of the better QB’s in the NFL. He’s young and somewhat inexperienced, but he’s a WINNER. Gruden may not have been a personnel genius, but he found a gem in Gradkowski, just gave up on him too soon. Gradkowski has his game together now. The game has slowed down for him and he will excel if given a chance. Even behind the crap we have for an OL.
The Raids ran into a buzzsaw in Tenn. Team was flat, poorly coached, uninspired. The Raids needed a QB that would step up and lead, instead we got a scrub sliding short of a first down.
This team isn’t going to the Superbowl with the overmatched OL it currently fields — but it can be competitive and even make the playoffs — provided it puts a QB that can lead and make things happen on the field.
That QB is Bruce Gradkowski.
Hopefully Al Davis and the coaches get Campbell out and Gradkowski in before the 2010 season goes down the drain.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Come on guys…..life isnt over yet! Usually I would be pissed but hey it is what it is…..let’s lick our wounds and get ready to beat the RAMS!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
thec,
al wants the team to play a certain way, why do you think they have so many calls to go vertical? it’s not the coaches, it’s al and they do not have the option to run what they want.
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why do i think, really…. I dont know who is calling the plays, but they are not good calls when we have an Oline that gives you what 1.5 sec to throw..Mr. Davs or not….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:14 am
HAHAHAHA Bruce Gradkowski…..you guys are too funny
September 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
so what did you expect to happen???
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Thec: I expected the run defense to be awful and Routt to get torched starting opposite #21
unfortunately, I was right on both counts
September 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Thec…..exactly! Oline was beyond pitiful
September 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Tyvon Branch’s pass interference really hurt
September 13th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Funny thing is the Raiders actually blitzed on Tyvon Branch PI call…..they sent MM and Groves!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:16 am
but why is the oline bad? could it be that the other team always knows what the raiders want to do because the owner dictates the plays that always have to be run? all you have to do is blitz them, overwhelm them. as soon as you see the qb making more than a 3 step drop you pin your ears back and go, then make sure you have the check down receivers covered and man to man on the wide outs chances are the ball will never get there. look at a tape from 1985 and i am sure jeff fisher didn’t even have to do that and you will see we are doing the same thing.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I may get killed for saying this but if Veldheer doesnt play better we may need Satele back in there starting
September 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am
if Veldheer doesnt play better we may need Satele back in there starting
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already been said bro and you’re correct
Veldheer is a Tackle
September 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am
LOL Hobs……naw i dont think that is the case…..all five olineman didnt even win battle at POA yesterday…..seriously bad
September 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I may get killed for saying this but if Veldheer doesnt play better we may need Satele back in there starting
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I was one for starting satele if he would be servicable, and then move Veldheer somewhere elese on the line….To me the whole line outside of him is a sieve…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am
if Veldheer doesnt play better we may need Satele back in there starting
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already been said bro and you’re correct
Veldheer is a Tackle
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LOL seems like it…..speaking of Tackles…..do we have any?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Well, we are now in year 4 of the Tom Cable-zone blocking (now with a sprinkle of power blocking thrown in) and it has gotten progressively worse each season.
Al gave Kiffin one game with the Tampa 2, lol, but Cable gets 4 years of this schyt?
Time to wake up and quit blaming the QBs, RBs and WRs for the offensive woes…this crap is 100% on Tom Cable and his o-line.
How are QBs supposed to perform when they have defenders in their shorts? How are RBs (other than Barry Sanders) supposed to find holes where there are none? How are WRs supposed to make plays when the play is over before they run their routs?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
What the hell was Mario Henderson doing? LOL
September 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
because they were overwhelmed, can’t help if tennesse knew what was going to take place. c’mon i told you they were going to go after veldheer last week when you asked and make us play stupid and beat ourselves.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Thec: I expected the run defense to be awful and Routt to get torched starting opposite #21
unfortunately, I was right on both counts
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No you were not.
Sorry bruh.
Routt didn’t get beat one time.
Question for you, on the real. Why do you think Branch sent out an apology?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
# Dakota Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Well, we are now in year 4 of the Tom Cable-zone blocking (now with a sprinkle of power blocking thrown in) and it has gotten progressively worse each season.
Al gave Kiffin one game with the Tampa 2, lol, but Cable gets 4 years of this schyt?
Time to wake up and quit blaming the QBs, RBs and WRs for the offensive woes…this crap is 100% on Tom Cable and his o-line.
How are QBs supposed to perform when they have defenders in their shorts? How are RBs (other than Barry Sanders) supposed to find holes where there are none? How are WRs supposed to make plays when the play is over before they run their routs?
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Redneck……you are correct sir……oline is awful man lol…..but DMAC needs to be traded lol ask Bo
September 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
What the hell was Mario Henderson doing?
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Not playing football thats for sure….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
So, where can we find a decent O-line coach? Cable is good at throwing the red challenge flag when we are down by 30 with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, nothing else.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:22 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
because they were overwhelmed, can’t help if tennesse knew what was going to take place. c’mon i told you they were going to go after veldheer last week when you asked and make us play stupid and beat ourselves.
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They went after entire oline…..each member fked up….and gallery is so soft its crazy
September 13th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Routt didn’t get beat one time.
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Jhill: Nate Washington would call you a liar
September 13th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Question for you, on the real. Why do you think Branch sent out an apology?
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because he was personally responsible for 3 td’s….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:22 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
What the hell was Mario Henderson doing?
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Not playing football thats for sure….
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Yeah baby huey is what he looked like….i vouched for him but he making me look bad….oh well
September 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Veldheer will get better, he just needs more time to get his snapping down and he will be fine.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Jhill: Nate Washington would call you a liar
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Wrong, that was all on Brach…He was the safty that should have hat the top covered…..
September 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Question for you, on the real. Why do you think Branch sent out an apology?
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because he was personally responsible for 3 td’s….
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Yeah branch’s PI changed the game because VY was on his way to a bad game until then
September 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
remember 4 years ago when Cable hand-picked kwami harris to become the next toni boselli?…cable has a good eye for talent baby!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Raider fans often forget that the previos two stints as OC for Hue Jax (Washington, Atlanta) were not successful
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Not this Raider fan.
I brought this up a few times, and got knives thrown at my head.
Fiery guy, but does not seem like an X’s and O’s wizard.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Our run D actually didnt look terrible. The option play with VY and CJ is gonna beat a lot of teams for big yards. Im not surprised with the let down that allowed CJ to go untouched 74yds… We couldnt keep the D off the field. Outside of the 74yd embarasser we did hold CJ pretty good. Same old song though, we probably have a defense that ranks in the top 10-15 in the NFL, but with no offensive support they just get run into the ground.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Question for you, on the real. Why do you think Branch sent out an apology?
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Jhill: you’re late!
go back and read post #42
September 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Guys guys guys! Calm down! Its all good! We beat Rams this weekend and have a ball at tailgate!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Branch blew coverage on the nate washington play, he fell for the play fake…He was responsible for over the top coverage…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
ITs the RAiderman99 post that I can’t stand.
You say this about a guy on the doggone bench! BAsed on an almost mythical 4th QTR
I don’t believe the Raider coaches are that STUPID to leave a QB, that you so eloquently waxed poetic about being one of the top QBs in the league, on the bench.
They would start him and Campbell would still be on the waiver wire.
Give me a doggone break with that mess.
Campbell was terrible yesterday…no doubt….but he didn’t lose this game by himself..not even close.
That whole team looked like shhhhhhhhhh.
Both lines, secondary, receivers, coaches AND the QB.
They have played like yesterday for the last 8 years.
Let’s save the QB switch talk until we see Campbell absolutely holding back the offense ala JaDavis last year.
When he’s missing open receivers, throwing pick six’s, taking unnecessary sacks etc…then put him out.
Again do you think the coaches and GM are that incompetent to leave a QB on the bench that is the better option?
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
still missing the point bauce…..yeah they went after the whole line because they knew, that was their game plan. watch campbell if more then 3 steps come on delayed blitzes. they know hell every team knows the raiders want to go deep all the time so blitz early and often especially with a rookie center that is not really a center. and we have a full back who doesn’t block very well too boot.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Raider fans often forget that the previos two stints as OC for Hue Jax (Washington, Atlanta) were not successful
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Not this Raider fan.
I brought this up a few times, and got knives thrown at my head.
Fiery guy, but does not seem like an X’s and O’s wizard.
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LOL ok VR……under Spurrier? Guess who called plays? Atlanta in 07 with BERNARD Petrino and Vick not even there….you tell me
September 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Rockstar and Bauce,
Not all is lost for a wasted week 1 for JLH.
He leads the team in QB rating!!!!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
not so sure we will beat the rams. rams are probably looking at this game as maybe their only win so blitz blitz blitz.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
A day later …..
The problem we have is the big play on defense …
STILL!
Tyvon Branch PERSONALLY gave up 3 TDs yesterday.
First TD to Washington, Raiders were in a cover 2 and Branch sells out to stop the run. WTF !!!!!!
2nd TD to Johnson he is right in the hole and gets SHOOK the phugg up, lol. Well, I guess me and my man RRS predicted that when you guys were on Huff for getting shook up by Forte, lol.
3rd TD to the TE Branch sell out HARD on the run on 3rd down and the TE slips right behind him.
Branch is so aggressive against the run, the coaches in the box see that all day long.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
and mcclain got held on that play jerry so infamously pointed out that he blew. obvious that the offensive player had a hold of us shirt and arm pulling him
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
still missing the point bauce…..yeah they went after the whole line because they knew, that was their game plan. watch campbell if more then 3 steps come on delayed blitzes. they know hell every team knows the raiders want to go deep all the time so blitz early and often especially with a rookie center that is not really a center. and we have a full back who doesn’t block very well too boot.
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Hobs….i get exactly what you are saying my friend…..but when we WENT DEEP allthe time in 04 and 05 the line didnt suck as bad as they do now so i wont use the cliche line of its AL!…….but we are in agreement about fullback…..ACTIVATE TONGA NOW
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Wrong, that was all on Brach…He was the safty that should have hat the top covered…..
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TB is a SS that plays in the box or covers TE’s most downs
Remind me how many times you’ve ever seen him streaking down the sideline or coming over from centerfield to help cover WR’s
he got faked out by VY, but it was Routt’s responsibility to cover Washington and it wasn’t even a challenge. Meanwhile DeAngelo Hall scooped up a fumble and won a game for the Redskins – LOL!
Raiders luck, I guess
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
The O-Line looked like hot garbage against SF in the practice season. Many of us, including myself thought that the rookie Veldheer was overmatched, considering his experience. Once again, with Veldheer starting at Center, the line looked awful again.
Veldheer could be a very good LT some day, he seems talented. He might even make a good center some day, if he is really that versatile. But after ONE awful pre-season start, how in holy heck did Cable conclude he was ready to start yesterday.
Satele struggled in run blocking, but at least with him at the pivot, our offense looked respectable. Between the rookie Center, Langston Walker’s fat azz, and “Hands on my Hips” Henderson, we dont stand a chance in the rest of these 15 games.
We need to just stick Veldheer at LT and roll with his learning curve. Put Satele back at Center and start scouring the wire for any other veterans that might be available. Let Henderson,Loper, and Campbell compete for the RT spot.
I honestly believe that the horrible play of the O-line permeated through the whole team yesterday. The defense was decent initially, but just wore down over time, as they always do. McClain wasn’t a superstar but he looked much more solid than he did in the pre-season. DMAC was a revelation. It isnt fair to judge the WR’s based on yesterday because J. Campbell wasnt getting anything to them, and it isnt fair to judge J. Campbell based on yesterday because he spent the entire game running for his life.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Jhill: you’re late!
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Sorry man …
Kid is sick today, was up really late.
I’ll check it out. Thought I would just jump in.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
What is it about our D and 3rd and long? VY looked like he was eating pie converting those 3rd & long against our D.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
So, where can we find a decent O-line coach? Cable is good at throwing the red challenge flag when we are down by 30 with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, nothing else.
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If we are going to run this zone blocking crap, at least get a guru in here….Alex Gibbs walked away from the Seachickens…former Raider coach….time to take the last thing away from Cable….let’s get some decent coaching for our o-line.
The o-line is an unmitigated disaster, as I feared it would be. And you can’t hang anything on Hue Jackson’s performance…an OC can’t run his offense when he has a bunch of soft azz o-linemen ruining things before the plays can develop.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Rockstar and Bauce,
Not all is lost for a wasted week 1 for JLH.
He leads the team in QB rating!!!!
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JLH da man! Throw him the ball more often…. with DHB and Louis not handling biz…..JLH needs more snaps
September 13th, 2010 at 8:31 am
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
The O-Line looked like hot garbage against SF in the practice season. Many of us, including myself thought that the rookie Veldheer was overmatched, considering his experience. Once again, with Veldheer starting at Center, the line looked awful again.
Veldheer could be a very good LT some day, he seems talented. He might even make a good center some day, if he is really that versatile. But after ONE awful pre-season start, how in holy heck did Cable conclude he was ready to start yesterday.
Satele struggled in run blocking, but at least with him at the pivot, our offense looked respectable. Between the rookie Center, Langston Walker’s fat azz, and “Hands on my Hips” Henderson, we dont stand a chance in the rest of these 15 games.
We need to just stick Veldheer at LT and roll with his learning curve. Put Satele back at Center and start scouring the wire for any other veterans that might be available. Let Henderson,Loper, and Campbell compete for the RT spot.
I honestly believe that the horrible play of the O-line permeated through the whole team yesterday. The defense was decent initially, but just wore down over time, as they always do. McClain wasn’t a superstar but he looked much more solid than he did in the pre-season. DMAC was a revelation. It isnt fair to judge the WR’s based on yesterday because J. Campbell wasnt getting anything to them, and it isnt fair to judge J. Campbell based on yesterday because he spent the entire game running for his life.
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Good post but dont follow your LT solution at all
September 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
# Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
What is it about our D and 3rd and long? VY looked like he was eating pie converting those 3rd & long against our D.
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OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BRUTHA! MISS ELIZABETH! SLIM JIM!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
MANASE TONGA NOW!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Still can’t get over the way that McClain got blown up on that long Chris Johnson TD. It was like a perfectly diagramed play where all Titans where exactly where they were lined up to be, and all Raiders were manhandled or thrown out of the way. Javon Ringer would have gone for a long TD too. But that steamroll of McClain gave me flashbacks of getting creamed as a freshman LB playing JV ball against fullbacks 80 lbs bigger than me. Ouch!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Not all is lost for a wasted week 1 for JLH.
He leads the team in QB rating!
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LOL
his 1 catches for 2 yards is more than Schilens, Ford & NMiller combined!
and he didn’t fumble, so he’s already ahead of Figurs too …
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
So the question REALLY is: who do we fix Cable?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
well the fact that al favors a light camp doesn’t help our trenches. they need to be hit and this team looked soft because they were. that maybe part of the problem. sea legs
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Re post 42 …
I thought the run defense was just fine. Did exactly what I said they would do. It’s no surprise that CJ broke a big run. I was very happy with the run defense over all. We are not going to face a guy like CJ who can break one at any time like that for the rest of the year.
Like Jerry said, minus that one run 3.5 yds per carry.
I’m more concerned with the over aggressive play from Branch. And the injury to our boy Huff.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
So now our safeties and CBs suck again? Well, I guess I know what we are picking with the #9 and #41 picks in the 2011 draft!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
People were on me about wanting 2 FBs onthe roster and we saw yesterday that Reece cant block his way out of a wet paper bag
September 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Not #9…
We don’t own a first round pick in 11
September 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am
don’t have a first rounder next year
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
#9 and #41 picks in the 2011 draft!
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You dont get a first round pick becuase of seymour…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
well the fact that al favors a light camp doesn’t help our trenches. they need to be hit and this team looked soft because they were. that maybe part of the problem. sea legs
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Yeah i dont dig that soft crap either
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
I hate to say it.
Trade Nnamdi for Mankins and a third round pick
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
# J Hill Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Re post 42 …
I thought the run defense was just fine. Did exactly what I said they would do. It’s no surprise that CJ broke a big run. I was very happy with the run defense over all. We are not going to face a guy like CJ who can break one at any time like that for the rest of the year.
Like Jerry said, minus that one run 3.5 yds per carry.
I’m more concerned with the over aggressive play from Branch. And the injury to our boy Huff.
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Fk Huff….we got Hiram Eugene!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Oh yeah, forgot…no help on the way in 2011 for the o-line that way huh?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
what did Henderson have to say about his performance…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
# Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am
I hate to say it.
Trade Nnamdi for Mankins and a third round pick
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And Mankins plays where?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Belichek grinning ear to ear. He’ll pick a future HOF lineman with the Raiders #1 draft pick next year
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Still can’t get over the way that McClain got blown up on that long Chris Johnson TD. It was like a perfectly diagramed play where all Titans where exactly where they were lined up to be, and all Raiders were manhandled or thrown out of the way. Javon Ringer would have gone for a long TD too. But that steamroll of McClain gave me flashbacks of getting creamed as a freshman LB playing JV ball against fullbacks 80 lbs bigger than me. Ouch!
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G123: I’ve learned that criticizing ROMAC (Willis, Lewis and HOF candidate) is not allowed in here.
he’s better than Kirk Morrison by default and will absorb no blame or fault for run defensive woes this season. Please forward all hate mail to Trevor Scott or Michael Huff
thank you
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September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
If we take away the big run then Run D was ok….and if we take away the hurries, the saks, the holding calls, and the offsides the O-line played beautufully!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
firing cable is not the answer……you will lose the players even more. got to slug it out and hope that al changes the playbook or kicks the b
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Dump the ZBS…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
what did Henderson have to say about his performance…
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The Neanderthal said nada
September 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
he got faked out by VY, but it was Routt’s responsibility to cover Washington and it wasn’t even a challenge
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Sounds like you might need a refresher course in the cover 2.
I’m not sure how you expect the corner to cover the deep zone and the short zone. Routt released Washington to Branch’s zone, and Branch was out of position = 6.
It’s pretty plain as day man, and I’m not going to really go back and forth with you on this one, lol. Too tired. But let’s say you are right. Is there any other play that you feel Routt gave up? The game was 7-3 after that play.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:37 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Dump the ZBS…
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Hate svelte oline play
September 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
McLain is a rookie MLB starting for a team that has had the worse run defense in the league the past 5 years.
I would not even mention him in yesterdays sorrid affair
September 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Again do you think the coaches and GM are that incompetent to leave a QB on the bench that is the better option?
Um…yes. Refer to Yamon Figurs for a recent example of inexplicable decisions by the coaching staff. Figurs had done EVERYTHING possible to get himself cut during the preseason and yet he gets to start.
I’m willing to give JC another look, but you can’t deny Bruce has managed to win behind this sh@tty line before and he does seem to inspire his players. He’s not an ideal Raider QB, but neither was Gannon. I’m just looking for the W.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Now, on to the positives….
McFadden anyone?
Good start to his year of redemption. Imagine what he would have done playing with Tennessee’s o-line against our soft D, instead of playing with our lousy o-line?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
One thing that Hue pissed me off on what first offensive play of game…..why call a screen off top? MistaBrown in all his wisdom called us doing that play a week or two ago….if he knew it then Fisher did as well…..SMH
September 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
yeah i don’t like zbs either, power game with the run will fix the o line in a jiff, if dmac can reproduce what he did yesterday and add bush to the mix. let them attack instead of react.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
ROMAC is a rookie, he is doing a lot of thinking…
The game should slow down for him as time goes by i do beleive…However the question is did having a 350 lb run clogger help him???
September 13th, 2010 at 8:39 am
# Dakota Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Now, on to the positives….
McFadden anyone?
Good start to his year of redemption. Imagine what he would have done playing with Tennessee’s o-line against our soft D, instead of playing with our lousy o-line?
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No trade him for ______…..he was gonna fumble twice remember Bo?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Weren’t we losing 10-3, with like one first down on 3 or 4 drives and CJ had 5 carries for 7 yards?
Once the D realized this offense was just going backwards every drive, that’s when the big runs started happening.
Same ol, same ol. Sustain a few drives and put up points and that in itself will help the run D.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:40 am
One thing that Hue pissed me off
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No that JLH pass to campbell…WTF….
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
JLH for QB! Talk about mobility!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Fk Huff….we got Hiram Eugene!
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LOL!
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
let’s say you are right. Is there any other play that you feel Routt gave up? The game was 7-3 after that play
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not off the top of my head
down 7-3 to start is bad though brother. especially with CJ2K in their backfield
we were supposed to force them to pass to insure a victory. Routt & Branch let them know “hey, you can pass on us too!”
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Did anyone notice they had Richard Seymour play NT yesterday? I saw disaster happening early on! Kelly was playing the UT and even when Big John came in he was playing UT position….or unless they were playing a 4-3 UNDER the entire game…..
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
i was thinking what in the heck did hue do to get the favor he was getting, just from his previous play calling gigs.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
I was impressed with DMAC… He even showed some swivel… Ran hard the whole game, he is a maker…
September 13th, 2010 at 8:42 am
McFadden got garbage stats. Tennessee gave up the 10 yard chunks he got in the second half protecting against the long pass. Don’t read to much into that “breakout” game of McFadden. That was Cable’s gift to McFadden and Campbell easing up the horses and accepting defeat.
What made no sense was kicking FG’s in the 4th Q. and then throwing red flags with 2 minutes left and 25 down. wtf? is Cable that retarted?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Guys pipe down…..season not over yet……its damn near close though lol
September 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
What’s the most important position in football ?
QB, right ?
Can we agree on that ?
I think we can.
I think we can also agree our offensive line is pathetic.
So let’s go on record now…
Who should be playing the most important position behind the crap we have up front ?
Which QB gives us any hope ?
RAIDERMAN99 goes on the record and says Campbell is a scrub and Gradkowski is a better than average NFL QB.
RAIDERMAN99 predicts Raids will waste first quarter of season watching JC flounder at QB before switching to Gradkowski and making run at playoffs.
Playoffs ? Playoffs ?!?
Yup, Jim Mora…PLAYOFFS !
RAIDERMAN99 is on the record.
Campbell sucks…Gradkowski better than average NFL QB.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
i was thinking what in the heck did hue do to get the favor he was getting, just from his previous play calling gigs.
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Hobs….listen….he never called plays in Washington….not with Spurrier there…….ATL 2007? You tell me what was happening
September 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
the question is did having a 350 lb run clogger help him?
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Who ???
September 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am
What’s the most important position in football ?
QB, right ?
Can we agree on that ?
I think we can.
I think we can also agree our offensive line is pathetic.
So let’s go on record now…
Who should be playing the most important position behind the crap we have up front ?
Which QB gives us any hope ?
RAIDERMAN99 goes on the record and says Campbell is a scrub and Gradkowski is a better than average NFL QB.
RAIDERMAN99 predicts Raids will waste first quarter of season watching JC flounder at QB before switching to Gradkowski and making run at playoffs.
Playoffs ? Playoffs ?!?
Yup, Jim Mora…PLAYOFFS !
RAIDERMAN99 is on the record.
Campbell sucks…Gradkowski better than average NFL QB.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no Grads is not!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
I wanted to chuck my beer at the TV when I saw Yamon Figurs actually do a little fist pump over an 8 yard catch. woohoo!!! effing loser scrub. Get off my team!!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
firing cable is not the answer……you will lose the players even more. got to slug it out and hope that al changes the playbook or kicks the b
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Man I hope you mean for this season only. If this continues Cable has to go this offseason. I can see keeping him around for the remainder of the season no matter what, but the Raiders need a legit NFL HC…not an under qualified short bus riding wife beater HC.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
No that JLH pass to campbell…WTF….
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I’ll second that.
Liked DMAC on the reverse though.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
i am just saying i am not as high on hue as some in here and he would be the same as cable as a hc. yes al, scratch that yes mr davis
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
I think I like Raiderman99
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Ways to improve for the long haul:
* cable has to put love interests aside and bench Henderson for Khalif
* gonna be some growing pains but bench Carlisle for Cambpell (Carlisle was manhandled) thereby having a power blocking line essentially taking Cable out of the equation
* let JLH continue to return punts
* hope our receivers figure out how to get open and catch the ball
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
B4R
Maybe not mankins but Nnamdi is the only player we have with real trade value and we get scorched in the air and on the ground almost every game.
Most are in agreement we wont win or look respectable untill we fix the Oline.
I said this two years ago and it was not popular but I say trade Nnamdi for some help on the line
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
back to lurking, first game we we lousy hopefully they make adjustments and we win this sunday…LTR NATION
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
dakota,
no legit hc is going to work for al, can’t run your own system….screw that. can’t pick your own coaches….double screw
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
# inonewordraider Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Ways to improve for the long haul:
* cable has to put love interests aside and bench Henderson for Khalif
* gonna be some growing pains but bench Carlisle for Cambpell (Carlisle was manhandled) thereby having a power blocking line essentially taking Cable out of the equation
* let JLH continue to return punts
* hope our receivers figure out how to get open and catch the ball
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But then when JLH scores a TD you will cry about that black guy doing an endzone dance you cant do!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Mario Henderson needs to go, they had to have Khalif Barnes next to him almost the entire first quarter. How are we gonna score points with 6 linemen in on all passing downs; and they still couldnt stop them. Its just embarrasing…and with the #9 overall in 2011 already used, no help is on the horizon, unless Veldheer can move back to LT.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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that’s what I’m sayin!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
# Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
B4R
Maybe not mankins but Nnamdi is the only player we have with real trade value and we get scorched in the air and on the ground almost every game.
Most are in agreement we wont win or look respectable untill we fix the Oline.
I said this two years ago and it was not popular but I say trade Nnamdi for some help on the line
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Oh plunk i said same thing to….i wanted us to not re sign the guy to be honest
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Rams threw the ball 55 times at home in a 17-13 loss.
If we could be so lucky!!!!!
55 passes, I will take that any day of the week.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
# BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Mario Henderson needs to go, they had to have Khalif Barnes next to him almost the entire first quarter. How are we gonna score points with 6 linemen in on all passing downs; and they still couldnt stop them. Its just embarrasing…and with the #9 overall in 2011 already used, no help is on the horizon, unless Veldheer can move back to LT.
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The entire oline has to go if thats the case
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
when JLH scores a TD you will cry about that black guy doing an endzone dance you cant do!
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bwahahahahaha
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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I agree 100%.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
trade for haynesworth? shanahan traded campbell to us, would he trade haynesworth? any answers?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
# guest123 Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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that’s what I’m sayin!
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Yeah but a few guys like Jhill, Just LOSE and BHP say otherwise….they love athletic linemen only lol
September 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Did anyone notice they had Richard Seymour play NT yesterday?
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And he played rather well my friend.
The CJ big run was a misdirection draw on 1st and 10 against our nickle defense. Wimbley and Scott were at the ends with Howard in at LB.
Seymour was actaully held on the play, but Branch still should’ve made that tackle in the hole. Of course Howard was no where to be found, and the rest is history.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
# Dakota Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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I agree 100%.
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Henderson looked good out there for our defense and clogs the middle……funny i and Dakota…including RRS have seen this all summer….how come the coaches cant?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I wish we could trade Nnamdi straight up for Darnell Dockett
guy single handedly shut down Steven Jackson yesterday. thats why Bradford passed 55 times
September 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
# J Hill Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Did anyone notice they had Richard Seymour play NT yesterday?
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And he played rather well my friend.
The CJ big run was a misdirection draw on 1st and 10 against our nickle defense. Wimbley and Scott were at the ends with Howard in at LB.
Seymour was actaully held on the play, but Branch still should’ve made that tackle in the hole. Of course Howard was no where to be found, and the rest is history.
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No he didnt! He was playing NT like a 3 tech guy….that isnt what we need!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
The last person we need is fat albert
September 13th, 2010 at 8:51 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I wish we could trade Nnamdi straight up for Darnell Dockett
guy single handedly shut down Steven Jackson yesterday. thats why Bradford passed 55 times
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Hell no…..guy too small to play 4-3 NT in our scheme….but he better than KELLY at the UT
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
# Plunketthead Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
The last person we need is fat albert
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I like albert but we dont need him……he doesnt play oline!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Let’s face it, you cant sugercoat chit and make it taste like candy. The o line is pathetic. You can’t coach them up. I don’t think either QB is going to avoid IR this year.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Bo, if you are out there, congrats on the Michigan game. That QB is for real.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Haynesworth would just come here and blow all gap responsibilities trying to make a play so he can get more guaranteed money.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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You think VY had all day to throw yesterday, that lineup allows for reading the paper and having a beer for the QB.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Morning peoples!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Did Tommy Kelly play yesterday?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
# DMAC Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Morning peoples!
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You played well yesterday….only person that did
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
# Dakota Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Bo, if you are out there, congrats on the Michigan game. That QB is for real.
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That guy isnt a QB
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
The CJ big run was a misdirection draw on 1st and 10 against our nickle defense. Wimbley and Scott were at the ends with Howard in at LB.
Seymour was actaully held on the play, but Branch still should’ve made that tackle in the hole. Of course Howard was no where to be found, and the rest is history.
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Wimbley is a pass rusher, not a run defender. thats why the Browns traded him – too 1 dimensional
Branch outside the box is sad bro. burned in coverage and no run support either
CJ2K in space is the best in the biz though and that Titans OL is excellent
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
I “like” him too but between injuries and his “head” not being right, we would be lucky to get three or four good game efforts from him a year
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Sign “The Gradkowski Movement.” Jason Cant-slide is not the answer. He is only the king of dump offs. The offense likes Bruse Gradkowski, because of his leadership skills.
Sign here,
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September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
http://www.firecable.com
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
# J Hill Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Time to start John Henderson people…….Tommy Kelly permanently the UT and Seymour as LDE….make Houston and shaughnessy the RDEs inthe base…..you wanna stop run for real?
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You think VY had all day to throw yesterday, that lineup allows for reading the paper and having a beer for the QB.
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Verses the triple shots of patron he had yesterday with the base d?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Let’s assume that DMC continues to play well against the Lambs, RB controversy when Bush comes back in week #3?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Did Tommy Kelly play yesterday?
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ROG: I’m not sure, but I know he got a huge game check
September 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
What was up with the DE on Titans getting off on the ball so quickly?
It was like we never changed the snap-count. Down-set-hut……sack.
Was it because of the noise? Rookie center? Cement-headed QB? Cable and Hue not thinking that far ahead?
Seriously, our O-line has enough issues blocking guys on a even plain, that just wasn’t even fair.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
How are we gonna score points with 6 linemen in on all passing downs; and they still couldnt stop them. Its just embarrasing
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Agreed
September 13th, 2010 at 8:56 am
For the first time I can really say…
Don’t blame the loss on me.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:57 am
At least a real Qb got me 72.65 points in our FF League yesterday even in defeat. Thank goodness I have Peyton!
September 13th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I blame the snap count issues on Veldheer. He must give some tic or gesture that sets the defense off. There’s no way that they can judge the perfect moment to come off the line.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I thought we were getting pressure on VY, especially early in the game. He just did what he always does, ran out of the pocket and made a play.
You look at the box score and VY did what he usually does. about 18 passes with 13 complete. He is good at getting rid of the ball and he just seems to WIN with mediocre QB play
September 13th, 2010 at 8:58 am
no, rb controversy unless we make one, both are on record saying they don’t care who starts, they’re buds.
September 13th, 2010 at 8:58 am
DMAC is that really you?
September 13th, 2010 at 8:58 am
new post gents
September 13th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I’d have been better off starting Jason Campbell yesterday in my FF league than the guy I chose (and we even lose points for sacks)…
Is that good for the Raiders or bad for my FF team?
+1 Internets if you can guess who I started…
September 13th, 2010 at 9:07 am
But then when JLH scores a TD you will cry about that black guy doing an endzone dance you cant do!
I’m mexican partner so I could show your sisters how to salsa merengue whatever you want, I just think a man scores a td and moves on the next play because it isn’t the last time that’s gonna happen
September 13th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Question for you guys in Oaktown that go to games and know about ticket prices and value….
My buddy won 2 luxury suite tickets with clubhouse access (think that means free food and beverages) and parking pass to an upcoming Raider game from a casino here in Reno.
Wants to sell the pair of tickets for $200. Told him he could probably get more.
Anyone know what they’re actually worth ??
September 13th, 2010 at 9:25 am
$195.00
September 13th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Mc Fadden ran fantastic yesterday!!!! He needed to be the featured back a whole game.He needed to get accustomed to being patience and picking the holes in the lines and then shooting through it like a rocket. He was fast and shifty. I had not seen this running style in games from him until yesterday. I think he has what is takes to be a major positive impact for the Raider team.
The Raiders have too many of the same style receivers. Ford, Higgins, DHB, They are the same type of player. Raiders, try a average speed, good route running, good air adjusting, jumper, wide body, with great hands receiver. A receiver with great body control build great confidence with quarterbacks.Just food for thought.