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Madden, Torre, but no Gallery, Seymour

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 16th, 2010 at 11:31 am in Oakland Raiders.

As the Raiders concluded their media window for Thursday’s practice, visitors heading toward the field included John Madden and Joe Torre.

But as they completed warmups and drills, there was no sign of Robert Gallery or Richard Seymour, the latest in a rash of hamstring strains which has plagued the club.

Rookie cornerback Walter McFadden remains out with a hamstring injury sustained in the final preseason game. Hiram Eugene had a hamstring issue and was back on the field. Darren McFadden and Chris Johnson missed a significant portion of training camp with hamstring issues.

Johnson, out Tuesday with stinger, was back on the field. So was cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (groin).

During special teams practice, Jacoby Ford was the deep man on some kickoffs, paired with Rock Cartwright, an indication he could be returning kickoffs with Johnnie Lee Higgins handling punts.

Torre has been friends with Davis since the two grew up in Brooklyn. Davis is at the facility but was not out at practice when the media departed.

The Dodgers are in town, playing against the Giants.

More to come later . . .

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  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    IndianaRaider Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    That’s not the case, I still believe he wants one more ring before coaching up above, but I highly doubt anyone from here can do a better job, but who am I to cast the finger of doubt?
    ————————————
    Sure, and people in hell want ice-water.

  • PurpleDrank81

    The injuries are killing me

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    To those people who are being Al-apologists and saying silly things like “when Al dies the Raiders have no heart”.

    The problem is you’re standing for blind loyalty itself, the notion of it.

    Where you’re at error is suggesting that blind loyalty to Al somehow makes you or somehow means a person is a “true” Raider fan.

    I have undying loyalty (like all of us do) to the Raiders. That’s our team. Al is a great man, blah blah, who helped shape that team etc. But even after Al dies, the Raiders continue. Showing blind loyalty to Al is irrelevant. If Al’s ways are the direct result of the Raiders stinking for 7 years, why must one show blind loyalty to Al if that person is the catalyst for that team’s woes? If all one is doing is being blindly loyal to Al, then it’s like you dont even care about football, or the Raiders, all you care about is being a fan of a human, win or lose you dont care, as long as you’re there flying the Al flag. You go to the Coliseum and turn your back to the game and just sit there watching Al, that’s what you’re there for. To blindly support and cheer. The game, the team, then is irrelevant to you.

    I say this to prove to you that no you do NOT blindly support Al, because you dont do that, go to games to turn your back on the game and just watch adore Al, win or lose doesnt matter, every season is a 16-0 season cos Al is always there and you’re watching him. Yay. No, that’s not true. You know it. You go there to support the Raiders, the actual football team.

    Halas and Brown too reached their moments and the fans pleading for them to gracefully pull aside. The Bears and Browns continue. Fans support a team, a tribal thing, belong to a clan (Raider-Nation, not Al-Nation).

    I dont think you’ll find ONE Raider fan who does not respect Al, all his achievements, what he’s done to create the Raider thing. And we all love him for who he is. He’s cool, still is. We love the guy as a guy. But that doesn’t mean we have to sell our souls, abandon our principles, our football sense, and just sit there suffering thru this phase of Raiders where you have a very old control-freak owner who is just sitting there reminiscing and soaking it all up counting the days off till he passes away, and thus hurting this organization from making a genuine surge towards greatness again.

  • GaterRaider

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 11:53 am
    all you guys talkin bout madden video games and whining…lol

    ***

    hey ROMAC, when are you gonna sign autographs next?

    RMR wants to meet you at Arden Fair …
    ****************************************************
    bro that is rmr, cant you tell?

  • RaiderRockstar

    thanks raider rockstar, having a boy.

    ***

    cool man, me too

    my wife isn’t due until 11/28 though (our first)

    got a name picked out?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Male cheerleader:

    7-9
    2-14
    4-12
    7-9
    5-11
    7-9
    8-8

    That’s the list of the Niners’ records since 2003. Not as bad as the Raiders, obviously, but you guys know a thing or two about getting “whup whup”ed lately too.

    Oh and you also lost a debacle of an opener by 25 points. Except you were supposed to win that game.

    So, basically, put a sock in it.

  • NorCalBones

    Hmmm, Madden & Torre…..Replacements for Henderson & Carlisle ?? Couldn’t hurt……

  • RaiderRockstar

    that is rmr, cant you tell?

    ***

    Gater, I had no idea

    thanks for the info man!

  • mistic1

    @ SilverNBlackPA & bcz24

    You have one point that i will agree with, Davis is in a class by himself because he is a football man, this separates him from every one on the list, with the exception of the 2nd generation guys you mentioned. Also just because you heard it doesnt make it true. just because we dont hear about other owners that doesnt mean that they dont themselves get involved. But again when you have accumulated OVER 50 YEARS OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, YOU ARE IN A LEAGUE OF YOUR OWN.

    Besides noe of what you said counters my point. When an employee / coach, doesnt do what he is told by the owner of the team/ business, he will be fired!! this is true in every walk of life, not just at the coliseum.

  • big chill

    awesome RR, congrats on first. we have first name of being Mason, we asked her mom to come up with a chinese name for the middle name cause my girl is chinese and her mom came back months later saying she likes stephen and we were like what and then her dad the other day says he like dan, and these are old school traditional chinese my girl is more americanized so we don’t have a middle name yet.

  • RaiderRockstar

    5-11
    7-9
    8-8

    ***

    the 49ers are gradually getting better?

    pretty good considering the crapsack they have at QB!

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    That’s what tradition is about. You HONOR the greats of your TEAM. Every single one of those who helped make it great. Players, Coaches, and Al. Ie, when Al passes on, the Raiders WILL continue, and they will HONOR him with all the appropriate stuff—like keeping to certain traditions like never changing uniform, no retiring of numbers, being a bad-ass organization (the Ravens manage this without an Al, for example), naming things after him, putting A.D. on the sleeves in perpetuity, etc etc.

    And the Raider-Nation will continue and grow and all the future years of success WILL be done to HONOR Al. Al’s honoring and respect will always be there everytime a Raider puts on a jersey and the fans fill the Coliseum.

    This thing of “no Al no Raiders” is BS self-brain-washing, it’s cult-ish. Like the moment Al dies, you cancel the team, cancel it’s history, and pull out of the NFL forever. Do you not realize that doing that, for example, would be everything that Al would not stand for, would not want, and that it would mean you’re preventing Al from living on a hundred years from now.

    Pull your heads in FFS. We love and respect Al, but there’s nothing wrong (in fact everything right) with fans/media/beat-writers being upset with Al like when you give someone an intervention in order for them to snap out of it and start putting things right. Cos it being righted (success) means Al’s name and legacy is HONORED better.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    But again when you have accumulated OVER 50 YEARS OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, YOU ARE IN A LEAGUE OF YOUR OWN.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    That knowledge was useful 25 years ago. Not so much these days. What has it gotten us lately?

    And this:
    “When an employee / coach, doesnt do what he is told by the owner of the team/ business, he will be fired!! ”

    Football isn’t like other businesses. The only thing most owners tell their coaches is “Win.” With Davis, it’s not that way. It’s “Win how I tell you to.”

  • SilverNBlackPA

    the 49ers are gradually getting better?

    pretty good considering the crapsack they have at QB!

    ++++++++++++++++

    Yes they are. Gives me a little hope for the Raiders.

    But still, no 49ers fan should be in here strutting around like a peacock.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    I dont think you’ll find ONE Raider fan who does not respect Al, all his achievements, what he’s done to create the Raider thing. And we all love him for who he is. He’s cool, still is. We love the guy as a guy.

    +++++++++

    Wait a little while, I can think of a few guys who will be by to disprove this

  • mistic1

    For everyone on this board that is so obsessed with pointing out MR.DAVIS’s failures over the the very recent history of 7 years. I think we are losing perspective. Agreed the number of regular season losses over this 7 year stretch is mind boggling, but the big picture is getting to the superbowl and winning. Here is a list of teams with longer superbowl drought than our beloved raiders…enjoy .

    Longest active Super Bowl appearance drought

    Team Last appearance
    Super Bowl
    (1966-present) Seasons since last superbowl
    New York Jets 42
    Kansas City Chiefs 40
    Minnesota Vikings 33
    Miami Dolphins 25
    Cincinnati Bengals 21
    Washington Redskins 18
    Buffalo Bills 15
    San Diego Chargers 14
    San Francisco 49ers 14
    Jacksonville Jaguars Never (franchise started in 1995) 13
    Dallas Cowboys 13
    Green Bay Packers 12
    Atlanta Falcons 11
    Denver Broncos 11
    Tennessee Titans 10
    Baltimore Ravens 9
    St. Louis Rams 8
    Houston Texans Never (franchise started in 2002) 8
    Oakland Raiders 7

    Drop the purple drank and relax

  • MistaBr0wn

    Do you ever work?

    ____

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Does Seymour EVER practice?

  • bcz24

    mistic1 Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    For everyone on this board that is so obsessed with pointing out MR.DAVIS’s failures over the the very recent history of 7 years. I think we are losing perspective. Agreed the number of regular season losses over this 7 year stretch is mind boggling, but the big picture is getting to the superbowl and winning. Here is a list of teams with longer superbowl drought than our beloved raiders…enjoy .

    Longest active Super Bowl appearance drought

    Team Last appearance
    Super Bowl
    (1966-present) Seasons since last superbowl
    New York Jets 42
    Kansas City Chiefs 40
    Minnesota Vikings 33
    Miami Dolphins 25
    Cincinnati Bengals 21
    Washington Redskins 18
    Buffalo Bills 15
    San Diego Chargers 14
    San Francisco 49ers 14
    Jacksonville Jaguars Never (franchise started in 1995) 13
    Dallas Cowboys 13
    Green Bay Packers 12
    Atlanta Falcons 11
    Denver Broncos 11
    Tennessee Titans 10
    Baltimore Ravens 9
    St. Louis Rams 8
    Houston Texans Never (franchise started in 2002) 8
    Oakland Raiders 7

    Drop the purple drank and relax
    ******
    Which one of those teams is 29-84 since going to their last SB…

  • MistaBr0wn

    Jerry McDonalds/Fat Kidd,

    KKKell wants Seymour to practice injured see if you can make that happen at Alameda, thanks!

    Feel better KKKell? While you sit here on your fat lump 18 hours a day copying & pasting and repeating yourself like a Mental patient you are asking for Seymour to practice with a bad hammy or ankle, whatever the case may be.

    Mope.

  • RaiderRockstar

    no 49ers fan should be in here strutting around like a peacock

    ***

    LOL!

    he’s a Male Cheerleader. all they do is strut around like a peacock …

  • mistic1

    @ bcz24

    again the big picture is the key here, i understand the 29-83 is an outrage, but that is beside the point. The point is plenty of teams that supposedly have non meddling owners have a longer drought than we do. We need to back up of the ledge a little, and be grateful that we are still one of the storied franchises, despite our recent ( albeit ugly) history of 7 years.

  • MistaBr0wn

    That peacock line is pretty funny. What will be even funnier is Singletary thanking S Payton Sunday after they lose like he did P Carroll.

  • MistaBr0wn

    *Monday

  • Plunketthead

    GG

    Say Al steps down and we hire a bang up GM and coach.

    Team is a low market and they cant shell out for Ozzie Newsome and Ballecheats.

    Most will be retreads, has beens, wannabees and never will bes.

    Theres no proff that things will improve much, besides we will probaly get a bean counting businesman for a owner who will interfer (see Jerry Jones)

    He will run the team to impress others, make business contacts, make sure he doesnt lose money and have a hard on for uppitty “idiots who would be in jail if he was not for his geneosirty.

    Good luck with that.

    Excuse the spelling I got my scrips refilled. : )

  • bcz24

    Im not looking for a SB. Im looking for my team to return to relevence. I dont expect to go from 29-83 to the super bowl. But is a fuggin 8-8 season beyond reason? How many of those teams have had ZERO winning records since their last super bowl. Lets face it, aside from “the gruden years” the Raiders havent been relevent since 1981…

  • RaiderRockstar

    What will be even funnier is Singletary thanking S Payton Sunday after they lose like he did P Carroll

    ***

    yeah, the Saints are about 100 times better than the Seaturds!

  • mistic1

    Maybe some people would rather be viking fans, lots of playoff runs, no super bowl jewelry. Or a team that wins in the regular season year in and year out but never qualifies for the big one.

  • bcz24

    The Niners might actually lose by MORE than 25 this week… I have Brees, Im hoping he puts up some astronomical #s Monday… like say 400yds 5tds :D

  • MistaBr0wn

    JLH & Ford were both active week 1 so having Figurs return kicks or even being on the roster was a complete waste of a spot. N Miller or S Brown could have been in that slot but I guess it will Pears.

    lmao

  • Plunketthead

    67 mistic

    Theres 31 other teams that will kick you in the butt every chance they get.
    Draft picks are 50/50 for the most. Lots of it has to do with luck and getting the top 5 QB which can make all the diff in the world.

    Cowboys and Jets are HUGE money markets.
    Jets have not sniffed a SB in a gazillion years.
    Cowcracks have won one? playoff game in the past 12 years or so

  • MistaBr0wn

    RR,
    I dont know if you saw it last week or maybe the week before. Fat Runt says he was eating dinner with Jerry and your name came up as someone who emails Jerry and complains about the Runt.

    Just an FYI..

  • mistic1

    @ bcz24

    herm edwards said “you play to win the game” Oakland is super bowl or bust, that is the Davis way. Based on the list i gave you the davis way is more succesful than most.This is why we have been to a confrence championship at least once in every decade since the 60′s. this is why we have played in a superbowl in almost every decade, save 1.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    mistic1 Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
    Maybe some people would rather be viking fans, lots of playoff runs, no super bowl jewelry. Or a team that wins in the regular season year in and year out but never qualifies for the big one.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    I was a year and a half old the last time the Raiders won their Super Bowls. I admire the stories and films and whatnot of the Raider legends of the past, but for most of my remembered life, this team has been mediocre at best.

    And after 29-84….yeah, you’re damn right I’d take some wins in the regular season.

    Let’s say the Raiders pull a move like the Jets did last year: get hot at the end, squeak into the playoffs and then go on a miracle run to the AFC Championshp only to get knocked out.

    Do you think I’d be pissed? F#!k no, man! I’d be sorry they lost, but at this point the joy that comes with winning games is enough for me.

    Let’s get a few winning records and a couple playoff berths in a row and then I’ll start complaining about never making a Super Bowl

  • RaiderRockstar

    Brown: I have never e-mailed Jerry Mac 1 time

    I e-mailed Becker before though, to offer condolences after the loss of his father

    I haven’t seen fatty in forever – did he get banned?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Forgot to add: until that happens, I envy Vikings and Eagles fans their consistent success.

  • bcz24

    Wheres the like button on this thing??? LIKE post 83! I could NOT agree more. I think we are the same age too lol.

  • MistaBr0wn

    Fat Mope has been MIA since I asserted he is Jerry.

  • mistic1

    Another point not to be missed is tigers dont change their stripes. the Rooney family has a certain way they run things, it worked in the 7O’s and it worked recently, however for most of the 80′s and part of the 90′s they sucked. did they change how they do things? NO! What do you know they are winners again, doing things the way they always have. New coke is always a bad idea. Football like everything else is cyclical, the davis formula is tried and true, we will be back its just a matter of time.

  • Nnamdi21

    KoolKell Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Does Seymour EVER practice?

    ================

    Doesn’t need to a whole lot…

  • bcz24

    Man I wish I had your optimism mistic… I really do. Oh and BTW… the Steelers have won 6 SB’s and they hardly “sucked” for the 80′s and 90′s…

    “In the NFL’s “modern era” (since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970) the Steelers have posted the best record in the league. The franchise has won the most total games, won the most divisional titles, earned the best winning percentage (including every expansion team), earned the most All-Pro nominations and has the most Super Bowl wins (six) since the modern game started in 1970. It is 2nd overall in playoff wins and tied with the Miami Dolphins for most regular-season wins.”

    Yup… they suck

  • RaiderRockstar

    Fat Mope has been MIA since I asserted he is Jerry.

    ***

    LOL!

    I can’t imagine Jerry Mac trolling his own blog acting like a complete fool with confucious jokes, cut & pastes from every PFT article on the planet and a serious man crush on CJ Spiller …

  • RaiderRockstar

    Doesn’t need to a whole lot…

    ***

    vets should lead by example, not be given special privledges. How do you think Brett Favre’s teammates feel that he reports on 08/17 and they’ve been there since March or April?

    not a way to earn respect…

  • Just Fire Baby

    How about those SF Giants baby!!!!

    At least I got one team worth watching.

  • MistaBr0wn

    Well my account was banned. A week later I went around the ban and the first thing out of Fat Dork’s mouth was “I thought you were banned”

    I was immediately banned again. I again went around the ban and he repeated the same thing “I thought you were banned”.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    –”The Dodgers are in town, playing against the Giants”–

    yeah, and Odense is in Spain playing Getafe? and so freaking what?

  • mistic1

    @ bcz24

    Bra you just proved my point, thank you. A very successful team overall that has had plenty of lean years especially in the eighties, and parts of the nineties, but they stayed the course. Oh yeah the stats are a bit misleading, they after all routinely feasted on the likes of the browns, and oilers twice a year in the old afc north.

  • Just Fire Baby

    LMN,

    Giants-Dodgers is pretty big in the Bay Area (although I good bunch of Raider Nation probably doesn’t think so).

    Was the ESPN game last night, and Danny Glover and Joe Montana were in attendance.

  • DKnight007

    The work that Cable has done with the O-Line will make or break him!

    He is stubborn.

    Veldheer was drafted as freakin TACKLE and he is reaching to have start at Center?? He should be getting reps and experience as the starting RT!

    Barnes should replace that lazy unaware goof Hendu at LT and Satele needs to start back at Center!

    Satele at least has more experience than Veldheer.

    Veldheer should just be the backup Center and not the srarter??

  • raidertbone

    Dodgers vs. Giants this year – who cares? Just like Broncos vs. Raiders usd to be a really big deal. Now it only makes news when you get either Shannon Sharpe or Dick-head Sapp doing pre-game commentary!

  • bcz24

    There was no “old AFC North” There was an “AFC Central” back in the 5 team divisional alignment.