O-line issues still being sorted out
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 16th, 2010 at 3:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and observations Thursday from player availability and press briefings with coach Tom Cable and offensive coordinator Hue Jackson:
– Were the Raiders somehow tipping off the snap count in Week 1, enabling Tennessee to overwhelm the offensive line and get to quarterback Jason Campbell?
Some Titans players said as much following the game, and there was speculation that rookie center Jared Veldheer was somehow putting the Titans in the starting blocks.
“We’ve looked extensively at every area of that, and I think I can tell you I don’t think that’s the case,’’ Jackson said.
Although both Jackson and left tackle Mario Henderson acknowledged the need to be much better up front, both men believed the Titans got away with being offsides on a few occasions.
“Playing left tackle, if a guy jumps offsides, I have no chance. None,’’ Henderson said. “And it always looks worse coming from the back side, the blind side.’’
– Following practice, Henderson was in a group of about a dozen players in starting roles huddled around Cable, and then he was pulled aside for a few words and some additional work from line coach Jim Michalczik.
In the locker room, Henderson talked candidly about his struggles and conceded he probably shouldn’t listen to all the criticism and take it to heart.
He said it causes him to lose confidence but realizes “you’ve got to keep playing. I’ve still got to work. Move forward. I’ve just got to block out that negativity. It’s tough, though. I ain’t going to lie. It’s tough, man.’’
Cable said he thinks Henderson has a more “ornery’’ side to him, but admitted Henderson’s sensitivity to outside criticism has been a regular topic of conversation.
“You’re hitting on a real issue there and we do talk about that,’’ Cable said. “You know, what’s done, you’ve got to put it behind you. You learn from it and take what you can, but whether you’re a player or coach, you can get caught up in this stuff to the point where it will control you emotionally.
“He and I have spent a lot of time talking about staying away from that.’’
– The Raiders essentially threw rookie center Jared Veldheer off the high dive to see if he could swim, watched as he tried to catch his breath, and now there’s no guarantee he’ll get a chance to jump off the edge of the pool into the shallow end.
St. Louis comes to town with some confusing zone blitz packages from coach Steve Spagnuolo, but the Rams have lost 26 of their last 27 games, definitely are not the Titans, and will be playing in Oakland.
“I’m not ready to say that yet,’’ Cable said when asked if Veldheer would start at center.
Cable said he didn’t blame Veldheer for quarterback-exchange problems but noted “I think timing and rhythm is more of an issue.’’
Veldheer was given the starting job after not playing in the preseason finale against Seattle, with Samson Satele starting that game. Veldheer started at center for the first time against San Francisco after working there and at left tackle through training camp.
At Division II Hillsdale, Veldheer was exclusively a tackle. He played center in high school.
– Rookie fourth-round pick Jacoby Ford watched in amazement as teammate Yamon Figurs was the starting return specialist one week, only to be cut a week later in part because of a fumble on the game-opening kickoff return.
Ford will return kickoffs against the Rams, with Johnnie Lee Higgins returning punts.
“It definitely opens your eyes, especially when you’re new to the league,’’ Ford said. “It just goes to show you this is really a business and sometimes it goes like that. You can’t ever get complacent about anything. You’ve always got to be thinking today could be your last day, because tomorrow you could be gone.’’
– As difficult as it was for a former Texas All-America player to give credit to someone from Oklahoma, Michael Huff was impressed with what he’s seen from Rams rookie quarterback Sam Bradford.
“He’s real accurate and he’s more mobile than I thought he was,’’ Huff said. “We’ve definitely got to contain him and make sure we get in his face.’’
– Running back Michael Bush, listed as having practiced without limitations the previous day, was limited Thursday. Wearing a glove over his left hand which protected a fractured thumb, he politely declined to answer any questions about the injury.
It’s worth noting the Raiders were in full pads Thursday, meaning Bush may not be ready for full-on contact with the thumb. Sunday will be the 20th day since he had surgery for an injury which normally takes four to six weeks to heal in a best-case scenario.
– Jackson on fan support: “I would say to our fans: Come hang with us. Come here on Sunday and scream and go crazy and get behind this football team and watch us grow and get better. That’s what this is all about. It’s not a one-game season.’’
– Players who didn’t practice Thursday were WR Chaz Schilens (knee), Gallery, DT Richard Seymour, CB Walter McFadden (hamstring) and LB Travis Goethel (lower back).
Those were limited included Bush, CB Nnamdi Asomugha, S Hiram Eugene (hamstring) and CB Chris Johnson (stinger). DT Desmond Bryant (elbow) practiced fully for the second consecutive day.
Schilens, Goethel and McFadden can be expected to be inactive, with Gallery the least likely of the rest of the group to play. Cable said early in the week they were hoping to see him practice by Friday.
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September 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Primero!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Come by my tailgate,..brian will be there,..lots of people, booze, beer, pot, pills…barbeque,…beats the heck out of hangin in front of a grocery store or an old mans barber shop…lol.
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And you wonder why people would rather be in Dakota. I’d rather have my teeth pulled than watch a bunch of spoiled, trust fund babies from the burbs get drunk and moronic at a Raider game. That comment was the best advertisement to move to the country I’ve ever seen. Real estate agents across the pan handle should copy and paste it to their web pages.
September 16th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
“Playing left tackle, if a guy jumps offsides, I have no chance. None,’’ Henderson said. “And it always looks worse coming from the back side, the blind side.’’
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Yeah, I thought the guy was off-sides. and I don’t necessarily believe what the Titans said.
September 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
On the sack and fumble I thought the guy was offsides for sure. Was shocked when they didn’t throw a flag.
September 16th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
“Playing left tackle, if a guy jumps offsides, I have no chance. None,’’ Henderson said. “And it always looks worse coming from the back side, the blind side.’’
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Anyone DVR the game? J Hill, are you out there? Can any of you guys that DVR’d the thing slow it down and see if guys were jumping offsides?
September 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
“I’m not ready to say that yet,’’ Cable said when asked if Veldheer would start at center.
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Weird, like the Figurs thing.
September 16th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Upload the game for free at…
ATDHE.NET
September 16th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
DK, are you going to have the game on atdhe.net, this sunday?
September 16th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Super Mario needs some cheering up. All that will be there this Sunday should chant “Mar-ee-oh! Mar-ee-oh!”
September 16th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
what’s with this sensitive bull$hit, this is the NFL Mario! Cable needs pull his pants up, get out of Mario’s bedroom and annoint Barnes the starter!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Mario needs to use the criticism as motivation and channel it toward him playing BETTER instead of letting it hurt his confidence??
Come on man…it seems the guy doesn’t use criticism to motivate him to do better…instead it rattles him.
Not good…..
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
DK, are you going to have the game on atdhe.net, this sunday?
^^^^^^
If I don’t get a reasonably priced ticket by Saturday, then yep…I will watch it on atdhe.net hahaha
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
male cheerleader sounds toughter than our boy Henderson right about now
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Jackson, “It’s not a one-game season.”
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Are you kidding me? You cant sell out the opener and you think this isnt a make or break game?
0-2 losing at home to the Rams is as must a win as you can get otherwise the season is a failure
If things continue like week 1, the battle of the bay will be a blackout…
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Jackson on fan support: “I would say to our fans: Come hang with us. Come here on Sunday and scream and go crazy and get behind this football team and watch us grow and get better. That’s what this is all about. It’s not a one-game season.’’
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The Raiders certainly aren’t fan friendly.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
what’s with this sensitive bull$hit, this is the NFL Mario! Cable needs pull his pants up, get out of Mario’s bedroom and annoint Barnes the starter!
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Agreed.
All this talk coming from Mario and Cable sounds as if Barnes needs to start at LT this Sunday!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Mario needs to use the criticism as motivation and channel it toward him playing BETTER instead of letting it hurt his confidence??
Come on man…it seems the guy doesn’t use criticism to motivate him to do better…instead it rattles him.
Not good….this means Barnes should start at LT!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Guys, go to the game! There’ll be tailgating and drinking in the parking lot, with really cool people like Bob and Brien. I mean, we know how easy going these guys are. So buy your tickets now!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
DK, are you going to have the game on atdhe.net, this sunday?
^^^^^^
If I don’t get a reasonably priced ticket by Saturday, then yep…I will watch it on atdhe.net hahaha
hahahahaaha, wondering if it alot harder to watch the games if they are blacked out in oaktown, do you know bro? I canceled my sunday tickets because iam going to a handful of games this year
September 16th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
yeah, you can pretty much frame by frame the dvr, just aven’t ahd time to do it
September 16th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
yo
September 16th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Cable handled the Veldheer situation terribly. You can’t talk all this bull about it being “only one game” and say that all the problems are fixable and then bench your starting center. If he truly was our best option at center, which i dont think he is or was, then he should be playing and starting. If you were going to do anything, you start the vet in a hostile enviroment and if he struggles it gives u an extra week to prepare the rookie and has him coming into a much less hostile enviroment with expectations lower because of the struggles the previous week.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
DK, are you going to have the game on atdhe.net, this sunday?
^^^^^^
If I don’t get a reasonably priced ticket by Saturday, then yep…I will watch it on atdhe.net hahaha
hahahahaaha, wondering if it alot harder to watch the games if they are blacked out in oaktown, do you know bro? I canceled my sunday tickets because iam going to a handful of games this year
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I’m going to handful of games also.
I still have my Sunday Ticket and Red Zone Channel because DirecTV worked with me and lowered the price from 49.99 to 29.99 a month this year.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Dknight
i can upload previous games on Atdhe or just watch the live ones
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
severe, cable is a dam idiot, simple as that
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Agree 100% with #23. Cable is a dumba$$
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Cable handled the Veldheer situation terribly. You can’t talk all this bull about it being “only one game” and say that all the problems are fixable and then bench your starting center. If he truly was our best option at center, which i dont think he is or was, then he should be playing and starting. If you were going to do anything, you start the vet in a hostile enviroment and if he struggles it gives u an extra week to prepare the rookie and has him coming into a much less hostile enviroment with expectations lower because of the struggles the previous week.
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EXACTLY!!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
We need to pick 1 person for center and go with him for a couple games at least…Hows there supposed to be rythym if there changing every game…..Pretty stupid
September 16th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Raiders Rams
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
September 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
I cancelled mine, which i had for 5 years and they never lowered or nothing. last year the gave me the promotion plus hbo showtime for 6 months
September 16th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Dknight
i can upload previous games on Atdhe or just watch the live ones
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You should be able to watch the live ones….
September 16th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
It makes no sense how you dont give a rookie LT no reps at C last preseason game, wtf!!! and Severe good points and give the nod in a hostile environment. We have a retard as a coach. He should just be a motivator speaker for the Raiders haahahahhaa not the HC
September 16th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Re watching that Titans game and yeah, they were off sides several times and some really blatant and ugly holding on big Titans plays went uncalled.
To give the refs SOME kind of credit on one VY 3rd down conversion the Umpire lined up 15 yds deep wasn’t in postion to see it but it was so horribly blatant it should have been called.
Ridiculous and worse than incompetent.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
It makes no sense how you dont give a rookie LT no reps at C last preseason game, wtf!!! and Severe good points and give the nod in a hostile environment. We have a retard as a coach. He should just be a motivator speaker for the Raiders haahahahhaa not the HC
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Yeah some moronic judgement going on. Cable’s not play caller anymore so we got that going (we hope) but who thought Figurs was a good idea?
Who green lit Veldheer?
His a-zz needs pink slipped too.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Anyone DVR the game? J Hill, are you out there?
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Sorry man …
Don’t have it on DVR.
DirecTV malfunction.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Mario needs to use the criticism as motivation and channel it toward him playing BETTER instead of letting it hurt his confidence??
Come on man…it seems the guy doesn’t use criticism to motivate him to do better…instead it rattles him.
Not good….this means Barnes should start at LT!
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Dude your hi-gh. Barnes is horrible. Titans were off sides several times.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Wow…it pisses me off, how much this country has blown it economically by going to bed with a Communist country like China for so long.
Playing with Communist countries economically and trading with them is a LOSING proposition!
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Bush and the Repubs sold us out to the Reds then walked out of office and left us with the steaming pile.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Mario needs to use the criticism as motivation and channel it toward him playing BETTER instead of letting it hurt his confidence??
Come on man…it seems the guy doesn’t use criticism to motivate him to do better…instead it rattles him.
Not good….this means Barnes should start at LT!
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Dude your hi-gh. Barnes is horrible. Titans were off sides several times.
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Agree they were offsides a few times….but can Barnes be any worse or as inconsistent as Hendu or Walker at either tackle postion??
September 16th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Wow…it pisses me off, how much this country has blown it economically by going to bed with a Communist country like China for so long.
Playing with Communist countries economically and trading with them is a LOSING proposition!
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Bush and the Repubs sold us out to the Reds then walked out of office and left us with the steaming pile
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Yep…and it actually started with Reagan.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
It makes no sense how you dont give a rookie LT no reps at C last preseason game, wtf!!! and Severe good points and give the nod in a hostile environment. We have a retard as a coach. He should just be a motivator speaker for the Raiders haahahahhaa not the HC
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Lol i said the same thing about him being a motivational speaker.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
i posted a few days ago that i thought the titans were off sides on several plays, i watched it live, and have it on dvr.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
they should bench jason campbell and start gradkowski he was great in the preseason and he is more mobile
September 16th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
SD_Raider_619 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
I cancelled mine, which i had for 5 years and they never lowered or nothing. last year the gave me the promotion plus hbo showtime for 6 months
^^^^^^^
You gotta tell him that times are tough and you want to stay with them, but if they don’t help you out and lower the price of the ticket…your are going to AT&T UVERSE….you can get the Red Zone channel thru them for cheap.
That’s what my bro did.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Leslie Frazier for coach 2012!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Re watching that Titans game and yeah, they were off sides several times and some really blatant and ugly holding on big Titans plays went uncalled.
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I’m watching the game right now too. I looked at that play several times. Looks like the DE just got a good jump, to me.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
bigerb Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
they should bench jason campbell and start gradkowski he was great in the preseason and he is more mobile
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I say we give him more time…plus if we put Grads in and he fails do we go to Boller??? I also want to make sure Campbell is realy that bad and Grads is really hurt. If you look at the stats the only real good game Grads had last year was against Piisburgh because of some`home cooking and a stupid PI committed by the Steelers. Give both Grads and JC time before we make a switch that there is no coming back from
September 16th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Good lookin out Dknight, I will call them tomorrow cause iam thinkin now to switch to Dish Network cause the have the sling box and i can watch everything on my Droid X hahahahahaha
September 16th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I’m outro, yall take it easy.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Man, that sucks if they were truly offsides. I only watched it live but I thought I saw a hands to the face by the defender on Carlisle that went uncalled on the very play that he was called for holding.
You know, many make it out to be conspiracy theorist crap but there definitely seems to be a ref bias against the Raiders. On the play where JC walked away from center, I think he thought the defender would get called for being ‘unabated to the QB’. Welcome to the Raiders, JC.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
take care severe
September 16th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Here are the “Highlights” (Lowlights) from the game posted on NFL.com. I think the second play is the sack, strip play.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010091205/2010/REG1/raiders@titans/watch
September 16th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
As they say in Russia, tough shiztzky.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Wow alot of people on espn and SI are saying that the Rams have the game in the bag….
September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
JC – Jesus Christ?
I think Campbell should work that angle. Sort of like “He Got Game”.
September 16th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
The only thing i would say homefield but no one is going to be there so that wont help the Raiders. Deep down inside if Cable would of ripped a new one to the O-line and switch people around I would of gone out of my way to make the game this sunday. But hell no, Cable is a straight up retard!!! You need to hold every single player accountable!!!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Jackson on fan support: “I would say to our fans: Come hang with us. Come here on Sunday and scream and go crazy and get behind this football team and watch us grow and get better. That’s what this is all about. It’s not a one-game season.’’
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hey coach!!!!! how many gdam games did you get blown out over there in balt over the last 3-4 yrs???? now you tell us how we are supposed to act with this one. this is EXACTLY how ALL our seasons have started… PLEEEEEZZZZZZE. IDIOT A HOLE PRIK
September 16th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
OMG!!!
They want to blame our OL issues that game on the refsnit calling offsides?!?!?
WEAK!!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
619,
I’m from oak park, where you at?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Man 2 Man defense against a guy like Vince Young is not smart.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
619,
We (me, you, Thec, other members of the nation in SD) should attend the SD- Raiders game.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Watching this 100 top players on NFLN. They’re showing all of these old white guys from the ’30s that would get their spleens ruptured in today’s league. I’m changing the station.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Cable should’ve given himself a broken jaw already.
Herrera, Cable, Lal, Fassell, Michalczik should all be fired.
Raiders, UFL expansion team.
Raiders would struggle to .500 in the SEC.
Al should sell the team to Mark Davis, retire gracefully, spend more time catching up with friends, let Mark hire a GM and a real HC, a more professionally run football department will ensue because those guys jobs WILL be on the line.
Performance-based dynamic.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
619 is San Diego, O, not Sac. Sac’s 916.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
could someone please explain why we didnt hire Nathan Vasher??
I cant believe Lions is a better franchise than the raiders… Now I know why Al had Matt Millen put in the Lions, so he knew at least we were team 31 and not 32.. well Millen gone, tahhdaahh…
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the team must be cool to ride with Ware & Mitchell as depth, since Asomugha, Johnson, McFadden, Eugene and Huff are all banged up
pretty sure #21 #24 & #37 will play at home against STL though
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Nathan Vasher was a great CB in Chicago, and for sure better than Routt and or Chris Johnson.
But before the Devin Hester era in the bears, Vasher was a terrifying weapon, he returned a FG 108yds, Hester did the same thing the year after.
He wasnt Dante Hall in the return game, but he has sure hands, and he is fast… we should have picked him up..
on another note, all here assured me that Jacoby Ford would set the field on fire with his returns, when does that happen?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Cable should crack Davis’s jaw, although I don’t think it will make any difference. I think Davis is already dead.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Al should retire and spend more time with friends? GG, the reason Al still works is because he has no friends.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
John Madden said years ago that we needed to pick a left tackle in the first round. We chose McFadden.
Dumbest team in football.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Wow alot of people on espn and SI are saying that the Rams have the game in the bag….
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They’re probably basing it on what they saw from both teams last Sunday. What should they base it on? Your faith? That’s not their job. Their job’s to keep it real. Rams are improving, Raiders are getting worse.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
I’ve been on the “stay the course” with Cable crowd, but he is rapidly losing my trust and support..
Step it up tubby….
September 16th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
RMR,
What are you talking about? I’m from SD.
I’m sure there is more than one Oak Park in CA.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
I have far less respect for Cable than Davis. Cable has done nothing for the Raiders. Al is part of the fabric of everything Raiders. I do love Al, just his time is up as a hands-on Owner/GM football-mind. I’d rather see Al step down gracefully alive with everyone’s respect and appreciation, than have him squeeze the life out of the Raiders, Oakland-Alameda and LA, the fan bases, decomposing with the Raiders till he dies.
Cable has absolutely zero coaching talent, shouldnt be a HC in the NFL. Seriously, if he was available for hire, no other NFL team would hire him for anything but OL role. Look how many actual HCs are out of work too. Billick, Gruden, Mariucci, and many legit HCs having to work in DC or OC roles instead.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Al should sell the team to Mark Davis, retire gracefully, spend more time catching up with friends, let Mark hire a GM and a real HC, a more professionally run football department will ensue because those guys jobs WILL be on the line.
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that would kill him off. could you imagine if his son turned the team around. OMG
September 16th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I’ll definitely be at the SD-RAIDER game.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
“Playing left tackle, if a guy jumps offsides, I have no chance. None,’’ Henderson said. “And it always looks worse coming from the back side, the blind side.’’
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Anyone DVR the game? J Hill, are you out there? Can any of you guys that DVR’d the thing slow it down and see if guys were jumping offsides?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Al could do it anyway under the media-friendly premise of failing health…handing the team over to Mark. Doing it like that garnering sympathy from media/fans, and sidestep snickering thoughts he did it cos he realizes he is no longer tactically relevant and a trend-setter in the NFL.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Make Amy Trask the GM.
She would probably kick a..
September 16th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Amy Trask would be worst than Davis
September 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
O, I didn’t know there was an Oak Park in San Diego. Only ones I’ve heard of are Sacramento and Chicago. My bad.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Amy Trask is an idiot. Anyone who’s been there this long and can put up with this is just as guilty as Al, as far as I’m concerned. I read an interview with her once, and she said she believes in the vertical game, man defense, etc. She is an Al shill. There is nothing between her ears.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
i dont remember a ton of offsides but they were in the nuetral zone alot i thought…
September 16th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
GG Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
I have far less respect for Cable than Davis. Cable has done nothing for the Raiders.
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He’s only doing what Al tell’s him to do.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I am in CV bro, and I will be there for the Dolts/Raider game.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Screw that…Henderson needs to be gone. Anyone standing around while his qb is getting sacked and fumbles should be cut. If you make a mistake that’s cool but make it going full speed not watching…he does that way too many times. Show me….don’t tell me.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
He said he respects Al more, Kell, didn’t say Cable was more responsible. Anyhow, I don’t understand this respect for Al’s past, either. I think Al’s a fraud. I think he weaseled the team from Valley, hired guys like Ron Wolf to build him a real team, then ran them out and took the credit. Repeated the process years later with Gruden.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
A pro QB would ave a field day with D-Lineman trying to get a jump. Elway used to eat our lunch with hard counts.
It was noisy though.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
He said he respects Al more, Kell, didn’t say Cable was more responsible. Anyhow, I don’t understand this respect for Al’s past, either. I think Al’s a fraud. I think he weaseled the team from Valley, hired guys like Ron Wolf to build him a real team, then ran them out and took the credit. Repeated the process years later with Gruden.
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I have to agree. Because the fact is, he hasn’t done squat since Ron Wolf.
Facts & Figures mean things people.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Oprah to buy the Raiders next year
September 16th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Cable should run for Presidency. He’s definitely got that whole “sell nonsense-talk, deflect and spin-doctor” ability down pat.
Mr President, the economic crisis is worsening, etc, what are your key strategies for health care, unemployment, etc.
Cable: Well I dont know that right now. I mean we just need to let rip, think loose, go back this Monday and work our tails off, draw up a plan, keep building this thing.
Mr President, you mean you don’t have a plan?
Cable: No no, yes we do, just we don’t have it planned. What I mean is we havent put the pieces together, but we’re gonna bring back that old kick-az USA pre Cold War, that’s our plan. We’re gonna hit hard and be a force, you know. I mean, when we think about greatness we think about the Yankees, the Celtics, and 50’s Macarthurism, you know.
Mr President, why the back-flip from last week, regarding the expulsion of certain staffers.
Cable: Well, we just needed to take care of our party, you know, at the time we thought it was something, you know, but then when then we felt if we did that it would happen, you know.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# Kirk Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Make Amy Trask the GM.
She would probably kick a..
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I think so too, a female GM would be great for this sport too..
I believe Amy Trask eats 2 Warren Sapp’s for breakfast… she could handle it..
September 16th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
GG Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Cable should run for Presidency. He’s definitely got that whole “sell nonsense-talk, deflect and spin-doctor” ability down pat.
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Exactly, just the way Al likes it.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
– Jackson on fan support: “I would say to our fans: Come hang with us. Come here on Sunday and scream and go crazy and get behind this football team and watch us grow and get better. That’s what this is all about. It’s not a one-game season.’’
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I will be hanging, screaming, booing(if necessary) Hue. Not only do I want to see your boys grow and get better, I want to see some wins!
I decided to go with a Wimbley jersey, our sack leader this year IMO.
Can’t wait for opening day!!
September 16th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Al is 81, so on his Big Mac & Cole Slaw diet, I’m thinking we only have another 40 or so years of this left. My grandkids will see the Raiders dominant again !!
September 16th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
But Cable cant coach at all. Just what Al wants. Someone to stand up and say all the right things, etc, keep blowing smoke up our azzes and give off the perception of actually doing anything himself. And whatever he does do, which he does, he’s shown himself to be incompetent. I wouldn’t entrust him either with any major decisions or gameplanning.
He just stands there and tries to sell the players to the players in the lockerroom. But the players surely see thru him, cos he doesnt actually inspire them with any confidence that he is even doing his job let alone doing it well.
You need an actual talented HC who has a resume of achievement being a pep-talker, being loud, because the players would believe it, coming from a guy who knows what he’s doing.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Yep.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
“We’ve looked extensively at every area of that, and I think I can tell you I don’t think that’s the case,’’ Jackson said.”
Come on! Everyone saw the video of Campbell leaning back before hiking the ball! How is it that everyone sees it except our coaching staff! Please fix it Jackson!
September 16th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
So you would rather have a Singletary freaking out, dropping his pants, thanking other coaches for kicking his teams ass? How do you want Cable to act?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
You think Hue is going to say “yea my dumbazz qb was tipping the plays”?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Although it won’t happen, anybody think Cable will put in Grad after halftime if things go the same as last week?
September 16th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Lix333 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Come on! Everyone saw the video of Campbell leaning back before hiking the ball! How is it that everyone sees it except our coaching staff! Please fix it Jackson!
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I just re-watched the first half. I didn’t see any leaning back or other tells…..but I’m no expert.
Looked to me, that the guy just got a good jump. It happens sometimes.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
I have rewatched the game several times, slow motioning through most of the first half plays. I am no expert, but I could not see him rocking backwards. The Tits were getting off on the count, but I can’t see the tell.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I just don’t understand how we don’t know who are Center is, how we don’t know who is going to play what at this point in the year. The O-line has been a problem ever since Robbins went AWOL years ago. This is what’s scary to me, and as I QB, I’d be tripping too. That’s what I saw in JC’s face throughout the entire game last week.
September 16th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Perception thing still the main motive unfortunately.
Al avoiding the media lulz of “another HC was fired during the 2009/2010 off-season”. The players are paid to play, put up and shut up. Asomugha etc were championing Cable, but if we’d signed Cowher/Gruden as HC, none of them would’ve give two hoots about Cable or fighting for his stay as HC.
Instead of actually doing the RIGHT thing…in the most important few facets: GM+HC, letting them run a football department. Everything else flows from that facet. Hiring/maintaining puppet spin-doctors isnt going to fix anything. Only further gives credence to the Billboard.
Al did good getting players like Seymour, Wimbley, etc. But then holds it all back with suffocating the rest of the football department.
Raiders would IMMEDIATELY be successful if Al stayed in the player/business side of things, but let a legit GM and HC run the team.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
KoolKell
How are you old friend?
In fact how is everyone on this dusty old blog? It has been a while, a loooong while…
September 16th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Any Raider Head Coach has to:
*Play Man 2 Man Defense
*Rush 4 Lineman
*One Deep Safety
*Vertical Offense
*Play who Al says play
*Run a soft camp
*Watch their words
*Take the fall
So, their hands are pretty well tied. That’s why Coaches with options go elsewhere.
Gotta be tough taking the fall for someone else.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Hey Dogg, what’s up?
September 16th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
I don’t mean guys like McDaniels, Mangini, or Millen, either.
Dont just hire anybody, or think some new-Kiffin reminds you of Madden, or Campbell reminds you of Plunkett type thinking.
You just look at whose got a proven resume and give them what they need to get their signature.
The objective of an owner, one would think, is to have a competitive good team, so that the dollars roll in, no blackouts, broker stadium deals, etc.
It seems Al’s objective is that dementia of just having something running the way it always did, for the sake of it. Like running a mom-and-pop video store in a modern era of digital downloads and iPods. Little to no expertise with modern technology, scant regard for it, and not even caring about the business, instead just having this thing so you can sit and reminisce with.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Many moons ago, I predicted that Campbell would be benched week 2 at halftime.
I am sticking with it.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
KK
Remember a while back I was asking you about Eugene, Oregon? Well I liked it so much I bought 2 houses and moved my entire family! It is amazing, so much more bang for your buck up here.
I was able to buy 2 houses, one that is a 2 & 2(mother in law’s) with several mature redwoods on the property as well as another 3 & 2(me and my family) with a huge amount of open country and trees for less than the price of a 2 & 2 in the city where I used to live in the Bay Area! Both houses are within 2.5 miles of each other.
The kicker is I was able to buy both houses outright without having to finance a single dime! So I ordered up the NFL Ticket on DTV and I’m loving it! I will miss taking my kid to Raiders/A’s/Warriors games but we still will visit family down there and all of a sudden my son is an Oregon Ducks fan, who’s football team is VERY good btw.
I have been stopping in here ever once in a while and I finally saw you were hanging around so I wanted to share the news. Hope you and your family are well, keep holding down for me and my family in our absence!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Vegas!
I moved to Oregon bro!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
do u thinks grads would have run for 9 yards on 3rd and 10 n slide..no way..campbell needs a heart..he is the tin man…when is the last time jlh has had a punt return for more than 15yards
September 16th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Dogg,
For real?? Where at?
Florence, Newport, those are some of my favorite’s spot to go camping back in the day.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Yeah, your Oregon Ducks hung a 72-0 beat down on my newly acquired New Mexico Lobo’s.
Hoops will be a different story!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Vegas (soory bro, but you will always be Vegas to me, unless, of course it pisses you off)
I am now a resident of Eugene, Oregon. Not too far from the coast. I am digging it! So did you used to live up here or just camp here? I am digging it!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Don’t feel bad, they whooped up on the Vols too. The Ducks have a brand new basketball arena that I am eager to check a game at.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I’m happy for you Dogg. Sounds like a nice setup for the family.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
ownership doesnt “have to” mean hands in the football department cookie jar like doing that and being successful gives an owner more elephant stamps than an owner who is a pure business man.
Eg…
Steve Bisciotti came from a working-class family in a Baltimore suburb. His parents, Bernard and Patricia Bisciotti, moved to Severna Park, Maryland, in March 1961. His father died of leukemia when Steve was 8.
Growing up, Bisciotti loved sports. His father took the children to Baltimore Orioles and Colts games. In his senior year at Severna Park High School, he played on the football team, though he has said he “wasn’t much of a high school athlete.”
In 1982, Bisciotti graduated from Salisbury University in Maryland with a degree in liberal arts. A year later, at 23, he and his cousin Jim Davis started Aerotek, a staffing company in the aerospace and technology sectors. Running the company out of a basement office with secondhand equipment, Bisciotti and Davis produced $1.5 million in sales in the first year. Aerotek grew into the Allegis Group, which is now the largest privately held staffing firm in the United States and 6th in the world. Bisciotti’s involvement in the sports business has brought more attention to his once low profile company.
On March 27, 2000, NFL owners approved the sale of 49% of the Ravens to Bisciotti. In the deal, Bisciotti had an option to purchase the remaining 51% for $325 million in 2004 from Art Modell. On April 9, 2004 the NFL approved Steve Bisciotti’s purchase of the majority stake in the club.
One of the first projects Bisciotti directed as owner of the Ravens was to build the team’s state-of-the-art training and practice facility, which opened in October 2004.
Bisciotti is currently the third youngest owner in the NFL (after 44-year-old Daniel Snyder and 48-year-old Randy Lerner).
September 16th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Eugene, what is that about an hour or so away from the coast?
The family used to always go to Coos bay and such, than in college, it was about a 4 hour or so drive to Florence.
Right on the ocean, nobody around what-so-ever. Many a great camping time in those parts.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
KK
Thanks bro, I appreciate all of your feedback over the last couple of years.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Vegas
I have big plans to take my son up and down that coast. I have heard nothing but good things!
I am out for now, good chatting with you bro. I will be back and I will have more questions about the Oregon Coast.
Hope you and your family are doing well my friend!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
College towns are good Real Estate towns. Keep the rain gutters clean.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
GG
Look at the Rooneys. 6 superbowls, Class, Coaching Continuity……Modest…..
September 16th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
If these guys running the show, throw Veldheer under the bus for a road, season-opening start, and than don’t give him the benefit of at least one start at home, than WTF was the point?
September 16th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
GG
Look at the Rooneys. 6 superbowls, Class, Coaching Continuity……Modest…..Consistent Winners, Consistent Style of Play……
September 16th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
GG
Look at the Rooneys. 6 superbowls, Class, Coaching Continuity……Modest…..Consistent Winners, Consistent Style of Play……Beloved by the Community……
September 16th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
GG
Look at the Rooneys. 6 superbowls, Class, Coaching Continuity……Modest…..Consistent Winners, Consistent Style of Play……Beloved by the Community……Small Market, New Stadium…..
September 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Obviously Bisciotti isnt just jetting about playing golf. He would sit in and keep up to speed with everything going on in the football dept, (as well as other departments), on a daily/weekly basis. He would give input, be there when the GM needs his approval on things, or they have contract issues etc. Like we see in Hard Knocks. Just he’s not suffocating the life out of it either.
When Al was young he was a go-getter, cutting-edge. The world was in front of him to take. But when you get to Al’s age, all those octogenarians do is sit on porches or verandas and reminisce, worry about their daily medications, take naps, find solace in entertainment: radio shows, tv shows, movies, catch-up with old friends, have social situations to mingle with people, feel relevant, not cocooned.
Progression of age and understanding. Like when you’re 18-20 all you do is go out, party and bed women. When you get married, say, 29, you push that side of you away, focus on a new phase. When you start having a kid or multiple kids, you again put another part of you aside.
A hands-on sports owner when young (30-60) is ok, when around 80, it’s time to step aside, ease up the load, delegate more, plan ahead by having setting up the continuance-party and letting them run things while you sit and watch, taking the training wheels off them so they can hit the ground running when you either pass away or retire alive.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
go ahead and put Chaz on IR…he aint playin any time soon. Gotten to the pt where they dont even provide updates really.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Pittsburgh a Powerful rival back in the day, still going strong.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Pittsburgh a Powerful rival back in the day, still going strong.
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Hey, at least we Bruce’d them last year and knocked them out of the playoffs!!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
GG Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
when around 80, it’s time to step aside, ease up the load, delegate more, plan ahead by having setting up the continuance-party and letting them run things while you sit and watch, taking the training wheels off them so they can hit the ground running when you either pass away or retire alive.
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I sooooooo wish that was what he’s doing!
September 16th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
We have to beat the Steelers….My Co-Worker is From Pittsburgh(In Love W/ Terry Bradshaw) and talks so much crap about the Raiders and said last year was a fluke…Please god let us beat the Steelers
September 16th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Cant really compare Rooney to Davis, because Rooney wasn’t hands-on. He was always a Bisciotti type. Davis built more like the egocentric and football-guru Halas and Brown, hands-on types. Which is fine.
Just these types of guys struggle letting go, all their lives power/control-freaks, mopping up hungrily the accolades and glory that comes with being a one-man band.
But their time always comes, and the worst thing is when guys dont know when to retire gracefully….like Favre for instance. He’s an example of that in the player pool. He suffocates the life out of the team, players, coaches, by wanting to continue to lap up the spotlight, unable to let go, like a mid-aged crisis guy still trying to hit on 18 yo girls acting/dressing like a 20 year old, sports-car, hair implants dyed hair, but is tacky and lost grip of himself.
Clint Eastwood aged gracefully and accepts his age, making movies that fit his age and where his age’s mentality is at, others have 50 face lifts and still try to make ‘young men’ movies that faceplant in the cinemas.
All Al has to do is just do business, hand over the reigns to Mark, and let him do what he wants—hire a GM, HC like Gruden, etc. Even if Al hates those thoughts, like they spite him. Tough! This is your SON’S organization now, you’re stepping aside to let him manage it, cos he’s gonna have to when you pass on, so let him live and learn, let him build his own confidence and smarts by making moves himself swim or sink, be there to support him, not suffocate him and pressure him to do things YOUR way.
September 16th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
like a mid-aged crisis guy still trying to hit on 18 yo girls
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Uh-oh, watch it now.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Ok for mid-aged guys to hit on younger girls by being their age, just sexy in his older ways, not fat and gross and uncouth, just not trying to come off as a 20 year old with comb-overs and twenty-something clothing, etc. Girls wont dig that.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
The Davis legend is not as strong here as I guess it is elsewhere. Old-timers around here know better.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Many moons ago, I predicted that Campbell would be benched week 2 at halftime.
I am sticking with it.
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That would be surprising. I doubt Campbell comes out unless he is injured. Your prediction may come true if we are struggling half way thru the season.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
What’s Campbell making 5 mill? He aint coming out.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Kwame Harris made 5 mill, he didn’t come out either.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
All Al has to do is just do business, hand over the reigns to Mark, and let him do what he wants—hire a GM, HC like Gruden, etc. Even if Al hates those thoughts, like they spite him. Tough! This is your SON’S organization now, you’re stepping aside to let him manage it, cos he’s gonna have to when you pass on, so let him live and learn, let him build his own confidence and smarts by making moves himself swim or sink, be there to support him, not suffocate him and pressure him to do things YOUR way.
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I don’t think Al got the memo in regards to doing that, would be interesting though. What’s his son like anyway? I never see or hear about him for the most part.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
What’s Campbell making 5 mill? He aint coming out.
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He makes 7.74 mill over 2 years, not sure what his exact salary is this year. (probaly enough that he isn’t getting yanked)
September 16th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
go ahead and put Chaz on IR…he aint playin any time soon. Gotten to the pt where they dont even provide updates really.
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totally agree, fill the roster spot with someone who will see the field.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Are we going to do predictions for Sunday’s game?
September 16th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Raider 24-13
September 16th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Raiders 17-10
September 16th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Oops I 4got the *S
September 16th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
WHAT’S THE THINKING BEHIND NOT YANKING A GUY THAT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY..SO U LET THE GUY HURT THE TEAM SALARY WISE AND ON THE FIELD TO?
September 16th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I predict…
-Mcfadden will have another solid game
-The Raiders have 5 sacks as a team (2 by Wimbley)
-DHB finaly gets a nice deep pass thrown his way, and he catches it.
-Steven Jax, held under 100 yards
-Stan Routt has an int
-Jason Campbell stays off the ground and gives up on awkward sliding.
-The black hole smothers Zach Miller after he catches a TD in the 1st quarter
-Howie Long’s son admits he secretly wants to play for the Raiders.
Print that! lol
September 16th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
WHAT’S THE THINKING BEHIND NOT YANKING A GUY THAT MAKES A LOT OF MONEY..SO U LET THE GUY HURT THE TEAM SALARY WISE AND ON THE FIELD TO?
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Ask Al Davis, I don’t make the rules
September 16th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
I am really hoping to see Mr. McClain & Mr. Houston step w/ two tackles behind the line of scrimmage and two sacks.
I agree I think Mr. Routt gets an int as well Mr. Asomugha (Rams’ HC & OC will want to see how Bradford does against the best a few times, and they will pay).
September 16th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
7 sacks, Bradford going down alot.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
I do think Mr. Heyward-Bey has his breakout game, 6 catches 100 yards.
September 16th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
HAIRYBUSH,GOOD DAY 2 U AND EVERYONE,ITS PRETTY MUCH A LEAGUE WIDE POLICY,JUST DOSE NOT MAKE SENSE 2 ME.BUT,AS THEY SAY “IT AINT MY MONEY”
September 16th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Raiders lose 24-17 because of vanilla defense and no blitzing in the fourth quarter.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
LOL!
Did tj write this for you?
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# RaiderRetribution Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
I do think Mr. Heyward-Bey has his breakout game, 6 catches 100 yards.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
KK you been at this hard for 12 hours straight?
Give it a break man Im sure your growing in that chair.
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# KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Kwame Harris made 5 mill, he didn’t come out either.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
GG, if you don’t think Clint has had work done on his face, too, you’re naive. Clint’s 80 years old. Name one 80 year old you know personally who looks nearly in as good of shape as Clint. Clint is a product of hollywood just like every other actor. He’s made up to look a certain way, to make audiences think he’s something they want to believe he is. His current role is just that of aging, tough Marine who’s had it with political correctness in this country, and he’s cosmetically designed to look that way. If Clint wasn’t an actor, had no money, he’s just be some toothless old guy on a porch.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Cable is operating like its week 3 in the pre-season.
FK’n derelict!
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“I’m not ready to say that yet,’’ Cable said when asked if Veldheer would start at center.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Ok let’s do the prediction game, this is like most of the fun now lol.
My guess optimistic self says a Raiders 17 Rams 14 result. We fall over the line playing badly against a bad team.
My pessimistic self says Rams 28 Raiders 17. The Cable post-game PC of “we had some mental lapses, dont understand, we trained really hard, we ran those plays successfully during the week, just need to tidy some things up, go back and build on it, and you know let this thing rip, it’s not the end of the world, we’re getting better, blah blah”.
Ie, more bad preparation, more bad OL coaching and OL rostered starters out of natural positions, more bad play-calling, more brain fades and giving up big plays on D, and unable to convert 3rd and longs.
So…
this time im doing a double prediction.
Raiders 17-14
Or
Rams 28-17
September 16th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Cable’s “we’ll fix this eventually, more stuff to tidy up and build on” is the talk of this thing we keep seeing from sub-standard coaching under Al….where our training camp goes right thru till about week 8-10 of the season before the RIGHT starters are starting, the OL is functioning better, and more wrinkles on offense/defense have been allowed by Al.
Us moving like snails thru incompetence and draconian management methods, us 2-6 before the light turns on for a few games at the end.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Yep
September 16th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
WR Vincent Jackson will demand 9 mil per season plus the compensation to Denver.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
not denver, I meant SD
September 16th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
If he stays in SD he sits 7 games,traded 5 games,so he’ll definitely ask more from SD.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
The o-line was extraordinarily sloppy, but the DE clearly jumped on that sack fumble when he beat Mario.
Crowd noise was also an issue but I guarantee either Campbell or Veldheer had a tell. Guys were jumping the count all day and they even said as much after the game. Why would they make that up? Hopefully Jackson and Cable are just being secretive when they say they don’t think it was an issue. Otherwise they’re too dumb to even know it’s a problem, let alone fix it.
I’d love to see Bruce Campbell get in there sooner rather than later. Yes, he needs some work. Needs to play with more confidence and urgency, but what he’s lacking in those areas he makes up for with long arms, tremendous strength and raw physical ability. I think he’s our future LT, but he needs to be in there at some position contributing and getting the hang of it now. However, I have no faith in Cable’s assessments and fear that switch won’t come until AD orders it.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Or OKs it.
September 16th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
with al davis in charge raiders 35 rams 13
September 16th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
If it was a Gruden HC in charge UNDER an Al Davis in charge…Raiders 35-13 is feasible.
Unfortunately, Cable not in charge and clueless under a Davis in charge = The Cable-Blow-Out Ratio. Or a scrappy win playing badly against a bad team.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Btw, i would like nothing better than to be proven wrong, and seeing us slam the lambs 30-7. All cylinders firing. Us making a run for playoffs. Etc. Whether Cable’s “HC” or not.
But the proof is in the pudding too. Analogy…when you taste test something like a pot of rice, to see if it’s ready or needs more ingredients etc, you dont eat the whole pot before determining so. You take a small sample as representation of the collective.
Cable’s tenure already with all the incompetence and blow-out games is the sample taste test. He’s no good. We can clearly improve this team (even if Al’s still pulling strings) if we hired better coaches — HC, OL, ST, WR. They would get the same cattle to play better, play with more wrinkles, and Al would be okay with it.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
We have a brand new,blog approved OC.How did that work out last week?
September 16th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Excited to see what Jacoby Ford can do. Have a feeling he may break one off in the return game. Didn’t do much in the preseason but also had a nagging injury. Usually he’s one of those guys who seems to be playing at a different speed from everyone else on the field. Hopefully we see some of that Sunday.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Hopefully he won’t get many chances.That is what I’d like to see.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
In the perfect word he’d only get one chance at a return-opening KO or 2nd Half KO,unless he also returns punts!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
What about that BREAD of Nick Miller?
What a waste of roster spot!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
GG Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
If it was a Gruden HC in charge UNDER an Al Davis in charge…Raiders 35-13 is feasible.
Unfortunately, Cable not in charge and clueless under a Davis in charge = The Cable-Blow-Out Ratio. Or a scrappy win playing badly against a bad team.
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Last year the Raiders played horrible against teams that were avaerage or bad, therfore I can easily see a Ram victory 44-9. Here’s Cable after the game:
“Obviously we’re disappointed about what happened out there. I think we seemed out of focus. I thought we prepared well all week; made some adjustments from last week, but I think we’ve got a little more work to do; iron some things out; little things. I thought Jason played well in the first half. He had those two interceptions there but I thought we saw some improvement out there. I thought the defense did some things, but as I said, we’ve got more work to do. We’ll look at the film, make some corrections, and get ready for Arizona next week.
0-2 is just 0-2. Seasons not over. Still a lot of football left out there. The guys know we need to play better. We’ll take a look and see what we can do better and just..you know…try and fix this thing. Okay? Thanks.”
September 16th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Sorry,my bad,I didn’t complain about anything in the 2 above comments.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
What about DHB? Is he still on the team? Talk about a FRAUD!This guy will not even be on any roster on any arena team!I thought he is much improved? This team is a JOKE! Lets face it nation we will not get better till Al lets go of this team and CHUCKY COMES BACK!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I’m waiting for the Disney version of our season where we draft a donkey and teach it to pull left.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
If you guys listened to other coaches you’d realize Cable talks the same as most of them-they never say sh!t-just coach talk that beats around the bush.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
CHUCHY AIN’T COMING BACK.You guys complain about Davis living in the past,damn.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
you play too win the game!!!!what? you play too win the game!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
CAMPBELL SHOULD BE BENCHED AT LEAST THAT SLOTH WHAT OF GOTTEN US THAT FIRST DOWN BUT WE WOULD OF GOT THE SAME RESULT…….DAM IT COULD BE WORSE! WE WILL BE BETTER WHEN GRAD COMES IN AND BRINGS THAT FIRE THAT THE TEAM FEEDS OFF OF!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I’m waiting for the Disney version of our season where we draft a donkey and teach it to pull left.
Now that’s some funny sh..
September 16th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Jon Gruden still hates officials
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 16, 2010 6:49 PM ET
You can take Jon Gruden out of the NFL, but you can’t take disgust towards football officials out of Jon Gruden.
Gruden, an assistant coach at Carrollwood Day School in Tampa, recently incurred a 15-yard penalty for chewing out officials, according to JoeBucsFan.com
The penalty took place in the first quarter of the team’s season opener. Gruden watched the rest of the game from the stands after choosing to remove himself from the sidelines.
“Whether or not it was his celebrity, I don’t know, but the officials made the call,” Carrollwood Day School athletic director Frank Mabry said. “I was right there myself. In all honesty, he was upset with the officials and he did receive a sideline penalty and a warning, but it was definitely overblown.”
Gruden reportedly kept yelling at officials from the stands, calling one “Forrest Gump.”
I could make some statement about sportsmanship here, but the image of Gruden crushing some high school ref cracks me up. Just a coach just trying to stay in game shape.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Yea. Get over Gruden. It’s over. Move on and hope we draft that donkey that can pull left.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
The thing that kills me about Cable is that he’s out there the first week of camp having walk-through practices, like it’s the first day of JV football practice and guys need to learn the basics.
This is the NFL. You’ve got OTAs, minicamps, etc. You get the feeling Cable has no idea where to set the bar and how to really, truly compete at this level.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Anybody know where I can get some tix for cheap? I gotta see this game live.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
djohnnyg Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
“Obviously we’re disappointed about what happened out there. I think we seemed out of focus. I thought we prepared well all week; made some adjustments from last week, but I think we’ve got a little more work to do; iron some things out; little things. I thought Jason played well in the first half. He had those two interceptions there but I thought we saw some improvement out there. I thought the defense did some things, but as I said, we’ve got more work to do. We’ll look at the film, make some corrections, and get ready for Arizona next week.
0-2 is just 0-2. Seasons not over. Still a lot of football left out there. The guys know we need to play better. We’ll take a look and see what we can do better and just..you know…try and fix this thing. Okay? Thanks.”
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yeah that’s why i gave two predictions, cos it’s probably 40:40:20 ratio of Cable-Blowout:Scrappy-win:slam-rams.
It’s true that a lot of HC PC’s are hackneyed comments etc, but Cable does have a way of being utterly delusional, frustrating, demonstrating his puppetness, and talking absolute nonsense like how Russell used to make comments that were impossible to decipher.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Try ‘Darkside Tickets’.Have seen them on raidernews.com but must admit I don’t know anything about the place.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Suprafresh & 619,
Let me know where you guys going to be at, so we can have a nice smoke session before the game. It makes the BBQ better!
September 16th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
This is bad: Shannon Sharpe on NFLN just picked the Rams to win the game Sunday. Think about this. St. louis has lost 26 of their last 27 games with their last win coming last year in a squeaker against Detroit, and he picks them to beat the Raiders in their home opener?
I don’t know where the Raiders get off on being “over confident” but I hope they were watching that prediction. News flash to Raiders: Everybody thinks you suck now! Still overconfidant?
September 16th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
I can also see the game going this way: Raiders come in all pi$$ed off and dominate everything BUT the score and open up 13-0 lead with announcers saying “it should be much more than that but key Raider mistakes have kept the Rams in it”. Then, Rams get a long run from Jackson, a pick 6 off Campbell, and the Raiders get nervous and start panicking and give it up again and end up losing 28-16.
September 16th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Raiders will be blacked out, too
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 16, 2010 6:40 PM ET
Neither of Sunday’s NFL games in California will be televised locally.
We previously noted that Sunday’s Chargers game will be blacked out in San Diego, and now it’s been announced that the Raiders-Rams game in Oakland has failed to sell out and will be blacked out as well.
It’s the Raiders’ eighth straight blackout; the only game they sold out last season was the home opener.
The two games in California on Sunday are expected to be the NFL’s only Week Two blackouts. The Lions still have about 2,000 tickets available for their home opener, but they have been granted a 24-hour extension, which means it’s a near-certainty that their game against the Eagles will be televised in Detroit. Any tickets that are still unsold by 1:00 local time Friday can be purchased by the team at 34 cents on the dollar, and the Lions will likely do just that to avoid a blackout.
The Raiders and Chargers, on the other hand, decided that having their games on local TV wasn’t worth the couple hundred thousand dollars or so it would have cost to purchase the remaining tickets
September 16th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
These t.v. guys are basing their predictions on what they saw last Sunday. Rams are playing better than last year, Raiders are playing worse. What are they supposed to do? Appease Raider fans, or do their job?
September 16th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
It’ll be Raiders down 21-16 and sack Bradford late in the 4th,black hole starts to go wild, Raiders get pumped. They force a punt with about 5 mins. left which JLH fumbles; Rams recover on the Raider 19 and Rams backup running back runs around left end with a score to wrap it up. 28-16 Rams.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
rams will have the lead 6-3 with two minutes to go but the raiders will have the ball with the bases loaded.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
So I guess when it doesn’t turn out that way,D,you’ll be here next week saying how wrong you were.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
“What are they supposed to do? Appease Raider fans, or do their job?”
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I agree. My point it is Raiders can’t point to all those “positive press clippings” as an excuse this time around.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Until the raiders can consistently pass the ball they will struggle with whoever they play
Rams 21
Raiders 13
September 16th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Al just sent this week’s gameplan down to Cable:
“Stop Ferragamo!”
September 16th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
I would love to be wrong Lefty. I will freely admit it. Believe me, I want ‘em to destroy St. Louis and turn out to be a good team this year, it’s just that I’ve seen this movie so many times I know the ending by heart.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
only fools recognize an NFL blackout as something to be concerned about. NFL corporate designated some rules 40 years ago in the tele-StoneAge and they stay with it. teams still get their TV revenues regardless of ticket sales and that pays ALL of the bills.
shrug. go to the game or don’t go to the game, your choice. the fan in the 75-mile TV radius is the only one who suffers.
as kids we would listen to Bill King call the game on radio with the TV picture (soundless) as backup when we weren’t actually at the Raider game. so, listen to Greg Papa and the should-be HOFers.
Raider on.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
I have a feeling that the Raiders could win ,say,27-10 and most would be on here biotching because we gave up 10 pts.,or we were called for some dumb penalty in the middle of the 3rd qtr.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Jerry Jones is lobbying for the league to change the way they share revenues; he doesn’t like sharing with the smaller market teams. What that might mean for Oakland if it goes through, i’m not sure.
Would AL be forced to try and move back to LA under such a scenario?
September 16th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
M Lone-the only problem with that is the Raiders radio set-up is terrible,if you can even find the feed.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
I have a feeling that the Raiders could win ,say,27-10 and most would be on here biotching because we gave up 10 pts.,or we were called for some dumb penalty in the middle of the 3rd qtr.
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I wouldn’t. I’d be jumping around naked doing back flips, I’m just so dam jaded at this point.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
raiders take the opening drive for a td ,someone picks off sam braford for a td,thats 14-luv ist qtr ,steven jackson fumbles raiders get 3 from field goal thats 17/luv ,dhb goes deep 60yrd td 24/luv halftime,3rd qtr kickoff to jacoby ford he could go all the way td 31/luv .rams get a drive going kick a field goal 31-3 4th qtr raiders ball hand off to rock cartwright fumble the rams recover 7 plays and a td 31-10 raiders get ball three and out punt rams get another field goal 31-13 bradford gets sacked in end zone 33-13 final score.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Lefty12,
you are correct sir. many here seem to derive self-valuation from their byotching about any microscopic thing.
it is the nature of the internet.
clarity is not necessary, but appearing to value insignificance is a hole to keep digging.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
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Evenin, M Lonetree, Kidd, MR, Lefty NATION.
Midnight snack for yoall.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
I doubt if LA or anywhere else would take the Raiders back as long as Davis is in control.I believe Jones’s big complaint is merchandise revenue,but I could be wrong.If that is the case,I don’t believe it would hurt the Raiders ‘that’ bad.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Lefty, all the Raiders have to do is start winning and everything would be fine.
Al says “Just Win Baby”. It’s about dam time to start doing it.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
D,you watch.Even if we win big this week,next week most will be on here predicting doom the next week.Can’t blame them but it would be nice to come here and read some positive or at least hopeful comments.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
At least I do get props out here (mid west) for being a Raider fan. In a weird way there’s respect for someone who would actually be a fan of the losingest team in the league in an area where Packers and Bears rule the fanbase. Not to mention the usual frontrunner fans you see wearing the Steeler, Cowboy and Patriot gear. People are like “Raiders??? Really? Why?”
September 16th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
September 16th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
http://www.karisweets.com/
Evenin, M Lonetree, Kidd, MR, Lefty NATION.
Midnight snack for yoall.
September 16th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
RAIDERS 24-3 DMAC GAME BALL W/120YDS+ & 2 TD’S B17C#ES….. Cant wait to be at macafee sunday gettin faded and talkin ish to lambs fans!!!!!!! GO RAIDERS!!!!
September 16th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
In a perfect world, J Cambell will be 19-22 for 308 yrds, DHB will have 6 catches for 110 yrds and 2 TD, McFadden will have 115 yards and 2 TDs and 85 yrds rec, D-Line will have a combined 6 sacks and Mitchell will lay the hit that lands Bradford on the IR for the year.
But when the smoke clears, it will probably be more likely; Oakland penaltys 12-110 yrds, J Cambell 15-36 144 yrds, 2 INT, McFumbles 15 yards & 2 fumbles and injures his hammy, DHB gets 1 catch for 4 yrds and disappears for the rest of the game, Murphy catches 3 passes and drops 5 others, no sacks from the front 4, O-Line surrenders 4 more sacks on the QB, and the camera man does a close up with Al watching on.
Final score: 9-6 with the Rams winning the battle of the FG’s.
I only pray this was a bad dream and the raiders actually show up and play a solid game this week.
September 16th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
I remember when I heard we signed Hue Jackson as the OC, from the Baltimore Ravens. I thought, “Wait a minute. When have the Baltimore Ravens EVER been known for the high powered offense?” Can somebody help me understand why Hue Jackson was a good call to come in and “fix” our anemic offense? Does anybody know if Tom or Al made the call?
September 16th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
When you have Tom Cable calling plays and running everything, Hue Jackson is a significant upgrade over Cable. But Hue per se isn’t some mastermind OC. But he can still prove to be good, or acquire more expertize thru his tenure here and become a highly sought-after OC.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: Bush. A fracture takes about 6 weeks to heal. That is easy part. The sprain centered about the fracture takes 12 weeks or more to heal. The defense is not going to go after the ball, if Bush gets the call. They are going to go after the fractured debilitated thumb! You know what that is going to lead to: TURNOVER!!!!!
But Curly Joe, is going to call his number (if he can start) until he fumbles the ball.
My prediction last week was that DMAC was going to have a good game because of injury to M.B. I knew that Cable would have NO CHOICE but to give him more than 11 carries (the most he had last year-correct me if I am wrong). Guess what DMac carried the ball 18 times. Less than almost any other “star” running back in the league. Yet DMac had a great game. One to be proud of. I also predicted that it would not be coaching that made the call but chance. I still believe that it was chance that gave Dmac the call (s).
My prediction regarding running the ball is this: If Bush can run the ball, the coach is going to split the running. Neither will approach 100 yards in the game, Bush will fumble the ball at least once and we will lose do to misuse of personal. TC in the post game NC: “The doctor’s released him to play so we thought he was good to go. I held him out in practice so his thumb would heal up, it is just that he took a good hit right on the thumb and that cost us the game. I am not blaming anybody, if not for that one play we would have won this game. Against a really good team. Don’t let their record fool you, they came to play and they plaayed really well. They deserved the victory. It is what it is….bla, bla, bla. I am laying down the hammer though. No one can wear the special tee shirts I ordered for the team, regarding the AFC west and Superbowl championships, until we win at least one game.”
September 17th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Al made the hire and then told Cable about it. This was during the phase where we were not even sure if they retained Cable.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Some of you people would turn on your own mother at the drop of a hat if it made you look good.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:25 am
I can count in a month all the positive comments about Hue Jackson after we got him . Lose one game now he’s a bum. Anybody but JaMarcus right? one game and you’ve already turned on the guy to replace him. You loved DMC’s dirty drawers and now he’s McSkinny. Everyone was so positive about this team a week ago now they’re a bunch of bums. Veldheer worship was burning up this blog 2 weeks ago now can’t get a vote.
Fans are very fickle………
September 17th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Hey genius,Cable isn’t calling the plays,Jackson is.So keep showing how smart you are and continue to talk about Cable will or won’t call Bushes or McFadden’s number.And some of you have the nerve to question Cable’s intellect.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Regarding the Blackout. I would rather mute the TV and listen to Pappa and Flores or Plunkett call the game than listen to the idiots T.V. commentators. Especially, Gannon. What a lousy commentator Gannon turned out to be. I never want to hear him call another game. I actually saw him at Supercuts and got him to sign my sports page. A millionaire at Supercuts (?!). That is right, on Park Street in Alameda. The girls told me that he tips 1 dollar!! What a tightwad. I am not rich but I tip $6.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:29 am
AIG-I don’t recall the Raiders ever saying Cable might not return.It was the media and the fans(?) speculating he was out.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Soooooooo correct,Priest.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Papa’s been annoying since the Raiders have sucked. He’s assumed the role of team shill, talking up the vertical offense, etc. That’s not the Papa from 7, 8 years ago. It’s obvious Al pays him well to pretend the Raiders are the same team they were when Gruden was here.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Lefty,
O.K. lefty you got me. Of course the OC calls the plays, my bad. So please, enlighten me. So you are saying that Hue decides who is going to start on offense, not TC? So why doesn’t TC give Hue (or any OC, for that matter) any credit in any of his pre or post game interview? He ALWAYS makes it sound like HE makes the decision who starts.
Oh yah. Regarding your comment and the crummy radio station feed. Go to FM 105.3 and you will get crystal clear reception of Tom and Greg calling the game.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Lol wow comcast sportsneet central show tonight had shot of Norco Bob and I cussing out the Saints preseason 09…….pretty funny we were drunk and it was damn near 100 degrees that day
September 17th, 2010 at 12:43 am
A HC with a OC will usually give the call to the OC because he does the gameplan only in weighty matters will the HC make a switch due to lack of production or otherwise. The HC and the OC work in concert to get the best personnel groupings then the OC gameplans with those personnel groupings. The OC by in large does all playcalling. Except in specific situations where the HC makes a decision.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:46 am
Priest……i agree with ya as well
September 17th, 2010 at 12:46 am
I don’t get the station.I try and listen on this thing.I can get the games,but not pre and post game shows.
I do believe it is common for coordinators to decide what players play in what packages.They can be overruled by the HC,but that doesn’t usually happen.I may be wrong,but I think that is sop.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Well bhp a win this weekend will surely help right?
September 17th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Reminder for those that dont know…..Raider legend Otis Sistrunk will be at John Vella’s store on saturday……also if Raiders win sunday the Bauce and Norco Bob will be at Ricky’s celebrating!
September 17th, 2010 at 12:53 am
The Raiders need a win as bad as we need the economy to improve. I think we get it if we take care of the ball.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Priest and Lefty. Unfortunately, all those great plays that Jackson called were in the pre-season. Even though I am just a stupid doctor, and you and Lefty are waay smarter than I when it comes to football. You have to admit that the offense was awesome under Hue Jackson, and that is why everybody loved him. Then in the season opener, the offense was pathetic. The team lost by 25 points!! Who is responsible for that. Mario Henderson, Walker? Lefty, does Jackson decide who starts on the o-line also? In my field, you have to localize the lesion and then remove it. The sooner you do that the better the prognosis. I am not blaming Jackson, but we have to find the problem and excise it. Otherwise, the patient ….does not win.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:56 am
B,tell John one of the old gang from the ex-Rugger’s Inn on Hesperian said hello.Ask him how that cheap ba$tard Gattos is doing.
September 17th, 2010 at 12:56 am
leftster…..u not coming sunday?
September 17th, 2010 at 12:57 am
Leftster i will do my friend
September 17th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Yeah sirblitz…..it was rough but we goonna have to forget tenn and set eyes on stl and produce a win for the ppl
September 17th, 2010 at 1:00 am
Along with playcalling is execution, you may know what to do and have a great plan but if it’s not executed according to plan it doesn’t matter it wont work. That sometimes LOOKS like a bad playcall but all it was, is bad execution.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Guys we just gonna have to hope whoever is on that field sunday will man up….excuses or failure wont be tolerated
September 17th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Well bhp…..execution and play calling generally result in major ass whippings
September 17th, 2010 at 1:04 am
Sir,sorry. I read on here all the time about things people perceive to be Cable’s fault when usually someone else is to blame.I get tired of the constant whining by many who proclaim to know so much more than the coaches.Personally,I agree with you about Jackson.We did lay an egg in Tenn. but I’m hoping it was an aberration and not the norm.We shall see.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:05 am
At least we get to see Ford on ST…along with JLH……thats good news
September 17th, 2010 at 1:07 am
And so it did, no excuses if you don’t play as well as you possibly can every week your chances of getting beat are great. Teams lose more games than they win IOW most teams beat themselves the better teams execute and take advantage of the other teams mistakes.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:09 am
Yeah lefty we didnt show up but some blame has to go cable…..team was flat and oline stunk…..plus post game pressers are pitiful at best
September 17th, 2010 at 1:09 am
B,unfortunately,I was in a pretty bad accident last week and am bed ridden.My right side is pretty much useless as of now.If you are ever on a golf course,don’t feed the wife a couple bloody-maries,get her a vodka and cranberry and then let her drive the cart.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Bhp…..And we aint good yet…..until we show it…..the negative shhhhhh will hang over
September 17th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Sorry to hear that Lefty12, hope you get better soon brotha. A Raider win might be just the tonic you need in that situation.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:14 am
I know B I know until we get there we just gotta keep pluggin’, can’t quit……
September 17th, 2010 at 1:14 am
I don’t absolve Cable,but I don’t put the total blame on him either.I don’t know about him,but i do like the way he seems to have ADs ear and seems to be changing the ‘culture’ on the team.Now if he can just win!
September 17th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Damn leftster….thats cold biz
September 17th, 2010 at 1:16 am
Adios guy’s I’m toast!!
September 17th, 2010 at 1:17 am
Yeah quitting is something i wont do….last week hurt…..but real men rise above it…..can we?
September 17th, 2010 at 1:18 am
Thanks Priest.It will be a slow process,kind of like the righting our ship has been.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:20 am
Yeah im outro too…….JUST WIN……..BAUCE
September 17th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Agreed,B.The way most have given up after one game is really starting to get to me.I really believe we will dominate this week.At least I hope so.And if we don’t,maybe the next week.or the next,or……but i will never quit on them.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:23 am
I am a Raider fan since I was nine (46 years ago). I did not abandon them when Al abandoned us, in 1982. I was first in line for the psl’s when they came back in 95 (?). I will be at every game, sober and making my vocal contribution to hinder the opponents offense until there is no hope. Priest, I hear you on the post game, frequently, and you definitely know your stuff. You are optimistic and see things that I do not see until you point them out. I appreciate your input BUT this team has to WIN or I am going to keep on spewing my vile attacks on the leadership of this team. It is just me venting. We have too much talent on this team to perform that badly. Who do you think is responsible for that? I believe it is the HC. He is like a CEO. His job is to make sure all the tom brass do their jobs, he has to have the ability to motivate his troops, devise the strategy that gives this organization the best chance to win on a consistent basis. We have all the components to compete with any other team in this league. Look at Shaun Payton, for example. How long did it take him to put the hapless NO Saints, with discarded players into a CONSISTENT POWERHOUSE. Why does TC deserve more time than Payton to elevate this team to, at least, respectability?
September 17th, 2010 at 1:39 am
Sir,you make good points and I apologize for being a smart a$$.I am by no means sticking up for Cable,just him being blamed for things he does or doesn’t do.
September 17th, 2010 at 1:45 am
No problem, Lefty. I better get some work done before I go to sleep. Go Raiders!!!
September 17th, 2010 at 2:08 am
Lefty12:
Too bad brother. Never let your wife drive.
September 17th, 2010 at 2:16 am
I am a Raider fan since I was nine (46 years ago). I did not abandon them when Al abandoned us, in 1982. I was first in line for the psl’s when they came back in 95 (?). I will be at every game, sober and making my vocal contribution to hinder the opponents offense until there is no hope. Priest, I hear you on the post game, frequently, and you definitely know your stuff. You are optimistic and see things that I do not see until you point them out. I appreciate your input BUT this team has to WIN or I am going to keep on spewing my vile attacks on the leadership of this team. It is just me venting. We have too much talent on this team to perform that badly. Who do you think is responsible for that? I believe it is the HC. He is like a CEO. His job is to make sure all the tom brass do their jobs, he has to have the ability to motivate his troops, devise the strategy that gives this organization the best chance to win on a consistent basis. We have all the components to compete with any other team in this league. Look at Shaun Payton, for example. How long did it take him to put the hapless NO Saints, with discarded players into a CONSISTENT POWERHOUSE. Why does TC deserve more time than Payton to elevate this team to, at least, respectability
I agree with everything you said, however don’t forget that Sean Payton decided to stay with the Cowboys as the OC instead of being the HC for the Raiders. He took the reigns of a better team in the Saints the next year. Mr. Davis simply does not appeal anymore to the elite coaches in the league and he historically does not overpay for this position either.
Even after the loss, hard to argue at this point that Cable shouldn’t be the coach. What is Jackson going to do it instead. Al needs his puppet. Leave Jackson to figure out the offense.
September 17th, 2010 at 8:30 am
good morning nation,
September 17th, 2010 at 9:30 am
everyone waiting for the other shoe to drop?
September 17th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Head Scratcher Question? WTFrak is a guy who played 5 years of college football and didn’t start until his 5th year suddenly the starting left tackle for a NFL team? Get the frak outta here, dump the project and draft or trade for a guy who started at least 3 years in college and is a instant starter in the NFL not a ongoing project! My God who is this guy related to in the organization , no way should he even have been drafted!