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No declarations on Gradkowski-Campbell

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable made no declaration Sunday as to who his starting quarterback would be against the Arizona Cardinals, saying it was something he’d deal with this week.

There were no injuries to list, and most of the talk centered on the Raiders’ ability to be physical and play hard after a difficult opener.

More to come in the postgame wrap on how the quarterback switch helped ignite the Raiders, the platoon system of left tackles Mario Henderson and Jared Veldheer, the big games turned in by wideouts Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy and a career-best 30-carry game for running back Darren McFadden . . .

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240 Responses to “No declarations on Gradkowski-Campbell”

  1. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Here we go…….

  2. J Hill Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    The way DMac ran the ball today, doubt you see any changes on the Oline. Veldheer will continue to get “transitioned” into the LT spot.

    By the way, who’s the backup C once Veldheer takes over LT?

    Personell decisions have truly been headscratchers.

    Sign Jake Grove!

  3. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I’ll call it! Start Bruce! F’k Campbell! No anticipation from this guy! And that has always been the knock on him ..gotta get the ball out!

  4. EMRaiders Says:

    Wow. What a difference decent QB play makes. I’m not sure about JC, whether he’s not good enough or whether he just needs more time with the offense. But Grad made him look like the back up today. I would expect Bruce to start next week not only after this performance, but also based on the preseason play, which though it wasn’t a lot, it was good. And last year of course. Not only that, but the team seems to respond to him. Let’s see what he can do against the cards next week. And hopefully get us to 2-1 and build some momentum before playing Houston and SD.

    Now, I wouldn’t get all excited about just one half of a game. We were playing the Rams, and we don’t know how this Oline would hold up against a good D.

    What about McFadden! Man this will be his break out year or what? Let’s hope so. He’s more than a change of pace back, I take my words back, eat them, and enjoy doing it for this type of production.

    Murphy is a stud. And he’s only going to get better. Miller is a stud too. DHB needs more production to fall in that category, but it seems like he’s making strides. At least he’s catching balls now.

    I can only imagine what the running game will be once Bush comes back… look out NFL! Here comes the McBush Train! (Or BushFadden, McBushden, or whatever name you can come up with.)

  5. TerrapinRaider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
    J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    The way DMac ran the ball today, doubt you see any changes on the Oline. Veldheer will continue to get “transitioned” into the LT spot.

    By the way, who’s the backup C once Veldheer takes over LT?

    Personell decisions have truly been headscratchers.

    Sign Jake Grove!

    *********************************

    Veldheer would not be a good LT (maybe RT). Cable is trying to force something that just may not be there. He’s getting beat too much at LT. Start training up Bruce Campbell already!

  6. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Yo B, 2nd half crowd noise was on point.

    Had the stereo surround on, first half was non-existant.

    Amazing what playing with a lead will do for the defense.

  7. J Hill Says:

    Next changes to be made …

    Stevie Brown for Tyvon Branch

    Shaugnessy for Trevor Scott.

  8. severeraiderz Says:

    severeraiderz Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    edward teach Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    Plunketthead Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    Hue deserves credit?
    Bruce gets all the credit
    ********************************************************
    Read the post again. I didn’t say Bruce didn’t deserve any credit. I said Hue deserves a lot of it as well.

    He calls the plays, and in case you didn’t notice there were more than a few adjustments made at halftime in that department.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Big reason for the offensive turnaround is that we got back to pounding Run DMC, cut down on the 5 and 7 step drops, and had som more designed rollouts. Bruce executed when we needed him to though and he deserves to start. My only worry is how long will he hold up before he gets hurt because he is gonna take some shots behind this O-line

  9. J Hill Says:

    Veldheer would not be a good LT (maybe RT). Cable is trying to force something that just may not be there. He’s getting beat too much at LT. Start training up Bruce Campbell already!

    ——————————————————-

    You can’t possibly think Bruce Campbell would be a better LT than Veldheer. I saw Veldheer get beat bad twice early in the game. Looked pretty good in the 2nd half.

  10. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I like Ty Branch!

  11. TerrapinRaider Says:

    He could be J Hill. He could be. But we would never know because Cable is only playing him at RG. Go figure.

    My Terps are showing if given the time to develop they can produce (Merriman, Vernon Davis, DHB, and Bruce Campbell?) ..sorry ..being a homer

  12. DKnight007 Says:

    Da Bruce Grads to start from here on out all the way, until he plays like crap or gets hurt!

    Can’t believe Cable actually made the smart moves by starting Satele at Center and putting Jared in at LT and bringing in Grads in the 2nd half!

    Wow! It might have saved Cable another week or two!

    Glad DMC shut you haters up again this week! LOL

    Nice to see Stevie Brown get activated and make some plays on special teams also!

  13. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Let me make the decision for you Cable: BRUCE starts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Raider75 Says:

    A win is a win…

    However, this was a sloppy performance that included a pick by both QBs against a Rams secondary that had a starter from the practice squad,

    A botched 4th down call on the 5 yard line (because of poor play calling and Cable not being able to properly call a timeout,

    A missed FG,

    Multiple penalties including holding, false start, pass interference, illegal contact, and many more…,

    Dumb play from McFadden and Miller failing to recognize the blitz assignments that led to sacks and fumbles, McClain getting victimized on the 1st TD and impersonating a WWE Superstar, Veldwhatever letting people run by him at tackle, and many more.

    But hey, a wins a win.

  15. J Hill Says:

    My Terps are showing if given the time to develop they can produce (Merriman, Vernon Davis, DHB, and Bruce Campbell?) ..sorry ..being a homer

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    My bad man. Didn’t put your handle together with that.

    I actually like BC. I think he needs to replace Carlisle though. If Gallery is coming back anytime soon, wouldn’t mind seeing Loper take Carlisle spot. Dude was SOLID today.

  16. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    McFadden really manned up!
    The guy was not only running hard, and as well as he did in college, but he was FINISHING the run.
    Way to go McFadden!

  17. lefty12 Says:

    Terrapin-many lineman who become tackles in the NFL start at guard and are moved to tackle once they get acclimated to the league-especially guys who are raw when they enter the league.

  18. J Hill Says:

    Raider O Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    J,

    I like Ty Branch!

    ——————————————————

    We know!

    But dude is TERRIBLE against the pass. Gave up 2 MORE TDs this week.

    FIVE so far for the season!

  19. buckeyeraider Says:

    Vegas,
    You gotta be on cloud nine right about now. Giants reeled in struggling Padres and your boy Bruce makes his winning appearance halftime week 2, just as you predicted. Must be livin right.

  20. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Cable had to have made the decision about bringing in Bruce at halftime himself.
    Now he’s got to deal with a pizzed off Al.
    Don’t be pizzed off Al, we won.
    You said it yourself, JUST WIN BABY!!!

  21. ajoakrader Says:

    sup nation yes we won the game. dmac is a beast right now. but should have not been this close.

  22. lefty12 Says:

    75-now it’s Cables fault when he calls a time-out and the officials won’t recognize it.Amazing.

  23. JB Says:

    Props to DMac. I was one of his non-fans and he’s now doing things I did not think he could. He’s running hard with passion. It’s about damn time. Good for him! I really want to see Bush do the same.

    Now for he JCampbell Gradkowski contest. Bruce just seems to be able to motivate the people around him to get their best. JCampbell, for whatever reasons, just doesn’t seem to get into it. He doesn’t motivate the players around him. I think he’s probably a better passer but that in itself is not enough. JCampbell needs to compete for the starting position. Right now, I say start Gradkowski until he gets knocked out of the game or fails to move the team and score. Our O-line is a disaster and that’s not changing anytime soon so whoever the QB is, they’ll just have to adapt.

    DHB had a much better day but he simply needs to fight harder for the ball and he needs to quit jumping up to catch the ball when that’s not necessary.

    TC better spend his entire week with the O-line. When Gallery is not in there they really suffer on the left side. We saw that today. Satele still sucks. So does Cooper and Walker at ORT. he OLT position has become a revolving door. I don’t think Veldheer is the answer there. I still like him at center.

    We are extremely lucky that we won today. Next week will be harder yet to win.

  24. ajoakrader Says:

    offensive line played better but all the credit to grads. hey, did’nt see the change coming but good. we need to win some football games bottom line

  25. Kirk Says:

    Veldeer only got beat once.

    The other time Campbell held the ball too long and didn’t step up in the pocket.

  26. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Veldheer must be wondering what the hell position he’ll be playing next week…center?…LT?…quarterback?…
    You have to admit the kid busts his arse and does the job whatever position he plays.

  27. Kirk Says:

    “Personal foul, number fifty-five…”

    “Spiking the receiver..”

    I became convinced today that the only thing that matters in the NFL is who your quarterback is.

  28. HairyBush Says:

    JFB: How pyched are you?

  29. J Hill Says:

    I understand the Gradowski pass was tipped for the INT, but they the heck were we passing the ball up 2 scores with 4 min to go in the game?

  30. buckeyeraider Says:

    Terrapin,
    That game was an encouraging sign from DHB. That was a sweet catch late in the game. Went up caught it at it’s highest point. Came down, spun out of the tackle and picked up extra yardage. He had some nice moments in preseason, but it was good to see it in reg. season.
    Good sign for Raiders fans.

  31. ajoakrader Says:

    Grads. need to start next week. if any comparisons need to made to plunkett it’s Grads. i know Pastorini got hurt but he wasnt’ playing that great anyway. damn i got a memory.

  32. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Buck,

    Remember, Giants vs. Reds in the playoffs.

    Shall be fun!!!!

  33. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hey Vegas!

    Not only did Bruce come in and save the day but the SF Giants won and SD lost!
    Sweet!

  34. lefty12 Says:

    Not only did DHB lead the team in receptions,at least he was for most of the game,he was also interfered with twice and neither was called,yet Huff was called for int. on a perfectly played ball.

  35. armond Says:

    kirk the nfl is very sissified like polomalu said a few years ago. that wasnt a penalty and im glad he did it. it wasnt a late hit it was during the play. imagine getting penalized for doin your job during the play. ooh u tackled him too hard. what a joke.

  36. ajoakrader Says:

    DHB was very impressive best day as a pro. broke some tackles he played with confidence.

  37. Just Fire Baby Says:

    HairyBush,

    I am psyched for the entire RaiderNation that we got a W, and have something to root for going forward.

    90% of the league knows what Campbell is all about.

    Grads is the wild-card. He may stink, he may be great, nobody really knows. He is “effectively wild” and tough to game-plan for.

    If the D plays like it did in the second half, we will be just fine.

  38. ajoakrader Says:

    raiders need to close out better with the lead should have scored a td but i’ll take a win anyday no matter how we do it

    GO RAIDERS!!!!

  39. J Hill Says:

    he was also interfered with twice and neither was called

    ——————————————————-

    I actually thought Campbell missed him on those plays. The first one was underthrown, and the 2nd was WAY overthrown.

  40. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    DHB played with confidence the minute that Bruce started throwing the ball to him. He did indeed break some tackles. Miller and Murphy are solid and DHB may yet prove Al right.

  41. ajoakrader Says:

    The team for some reason plays better when Grads is in. we need to stick with him until proven other wise. maybe the qb we needed was here all along.

  42. armond Says:

    lefty we are on the same page with these penalties just like the hold on seymour last week when cj went for 76. run dmc is running with swagger like he did in arkansas. i told yall that boy is tough. averaged over 20 carries a game his last 2 year there and dished out some punishment. was considered to have the best stiff arm in the ncaa. dont like how hujack went away from him 2 much. that guy better get better with his situational playcallin. he left alot points out there.

  43. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I guess Looper played well, no penalties that I remember, and no big lapses.

    Someone can correct me if not.

  44. armond Says:

    dmc shouldve been allowed to finish off a few drives with tds. notice how all the great hbs get to score when inside the 10? we went away from him even on 3rd and short which is ridiculous!! there will come a time where they have to ride him all the way there.

  45. ajoakrader Says:

    lets keep the momentum. start Grads from now on. the Raiders are finally seeing who plays better should play. it would be stupid for the raiders to name campbell starter for this week. Grads is the man bottom line.

  46. J Hill Says:

    yet Huff was called for int. on a perfectly played ball.

    ——————————————————

    Almost perfect. He got there a tad bit early.

    Not mad at him on that play at all.

  47. HairyBush Says:

    Raider75: McClain impersonating a WWE Superstar———————————–
    And I loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  48. lefty12 Says:

    JHill-the 1st one is where he jumped(maybe he didn’t have to) and got 1 hand on the ball-the defender had his other arm.The second one the defender armbared him and impeded him from going to the ball.On both the official was standing right there.

  49. Pretty Rick Says:

    McFadden had a great game. Bruce showed a lot of heart today, the only problem is Bruce has more heart than skill & I dont think its enough to produce a winning season. But Im definitely not gona hate on him today, he came in & did what he was supposed to do & we won as a result of it,,but I think its safe to say McFadden is legit now. McClain will probably get fined for that body slam but I cant lie,,,I loved it. I remember when Terdell Sands did that a few years back. Rams- 20 Raiders- 17 Im glad I was wrong.

  50. HairyBush Says:

    !!!!

  51. ajoakrader Says:

    i’m just glad we got the win. with all the other punk afc teams winning. we needed to keep pace, big win.

  52. armond Says:

    donald brown gets the ball on 2 n goal from the 8 and scores. u watchin huejack?

  53. J Hill Says:

    I guess Looper played well, no penalties that I remember, and no big lapses.

    Someone can correct me if not.

    ——————————————————-

    You are correct.

    He needs to be part of the starting 5.

    Didn’t miss Gallery one bit!

    Gallery needs to go back to OT!

  54. HairyBush Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    HairyBush,

    I am psyched for the entire RaiderNation that we got a W, and have something to root for going forward.

    90% of the league knows what Campbell is all about.

    Grads is the wild-card. He may stink, he may be great, nobody really knows. He is “effectively wild” and tough to game-plan for.

    If the D plays like it did in the second half, we will be just fine
    ———————————
    I hear ya bro! Good to see a win!! ( I was hoping for a blow out)

  55. ajoakrader Says:

    We will have Bush back next week that will give us the 1-2 punch the league will be scared of. offensive line still needs work though. but this is the NFL, the wins are earned not given to.

    Go Raiders!!!!!

  56. lefty12 Says:

    He couldn’t be worse than what we’ve been putting ther.

  57. J Hill Says:

    I agree Lefty. Just saying the passes were off target, IMO.

    The first one DHB had to slow down, which is how the DB ran right up into him. I think the PI should have been because he never turned around to make play on the ball.

    The second one, I thought the DB was kinda holding DHB, but the ball was overthrown by AT LEAST 5 yards.

  58. Raiderbuck Says:

    Bull,.. this team is the same burger same bun – more of the same. Personnel are just terrible. Another LONG season for us.

    I guess I can hang my Raider gear up for another year,..

  59. Random Drug Tester Says:

    armond Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    donald brown gets the ball on 2 n goal from the 8 and scores. u watchin huejack?
    —————————–
    did u notice that Peyton saw the Safety playing in the middle…re-aligned the blocking, pointed to the left side and BOOM…8yd rushing TD…untouched.

  60. buckeyeraider Says:

    I don’t see how Cable could go back to JC right now. Really don’t. It would be deflating to the entire team, and maybe more importantly it’s flagging fan base.

    The entire team, not just the offense, hell the whole stadiom seemed to be energized by his presence. Grads came in and gave that stagnant team a lift.

    Even the Defense played more inspired. They fed off the crowd. They really put the clamps on Steven Jackson in the 2nd half.

    What did he end up with, anyway?

  61. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Put Gallery at RT…that’s what I did in Madden’08…then I cut him to get rid of his salary.

  62. Hot Shot Says:

    it sucks we gave up a 4th round draft pick for a bench warmer.Rookie Bradford out played campbell.Campbell is not even worth a 6 ot 7th round pick.

  63. BigTed707 Says:

    I’ll TAKE IT!

    Props to DMC, DHB, BIG JOHN, and even ROUTT!

    What else can I say but BRUUUUUUUCE!

    Go Raiders (2-1)!

  64. lefty12 Says:

    Jackson had 75 yds

  65. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Routt played like crap in the first half, and nearly dominated the second half with a couple of pass breakups and a pick.

    Was CJ even out there??

  66. raiderfan12 Says:

    With bruce & jason we barley beat the rams by couple of points. If the Rams had a go to receiver we would of lost the game.

  67. J Hill Says:

    Adding Bush and Scillens to the offense along with Gradowski is going to add a lot to the offense.

  68. lefty12 Says:

    What happened to Jerry today?.He didn’t blog and whenever we lose he has updates after every qtr. and a couple of post game updates.Maybe he is in shock.

  69. DKnight007 Says:

    If JC would have been in there in the 2nd half….he would have been sacked more than Grads would have!

  70. Hot Shot Says:

    If Bruce was in at the start of the game we would of scored 14 or more points most likely.

  71. lefty12 Says:

    I’m not into complaining after a win,but why doesn’t JLH fair catch those punts in front of him to keep the ball from bouncing past him?His one return was pretty sweet though.

  72. Pretty Rick Says:

    Numberswise Braford outplayed Bruce as well, but Grads was able to make it count when it mattered most. Eitherway it was an ugly win,,we barely beat a team with a rookie starting at Qb. We need better coaching. “Bill (Cohwer),,answer the phone”.

  73. buckeyeraider Says:

    Thanks Lefty.
    The schedule maker sure put the Raiders new and improved Run D to the test right out of the gate. CJ2K week one, and NFC leading rusher week 2. Guy had 1,400 yds last year for a horrible Rams team with no other options. Pretty impressive. That guy is a beast in his own right. To hold him to 75 ain’t bad.

    I thought Big John Henderson looked good in the middle today.

    Rolando is going through some growing pains, though. To be expected. He looks good side to side and in pursuit. But like Cable said last week he still needs to attack the hole more aggressively. He gave up big run early, shoulda made the stop, IMO.

    Loved the body slam,BTW. Those are 15 yds I can live with. Almost looked like old school Renegade Raider football.

  74. TerrapinRaider Says:

    What did he end up with, anyway?

    8************************\\

    less thabn 100yds rushing

    glad to c dhb gettin cred …the guy couldve had an absolutely monster game today

  75. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Gradkowski is our only hope to win 6 or 7 games. Without him, we could be 2-14. Campbell is not a starting QB in the NFL. He’s too slow in everything he does, he’s a poor leader and he’s terribly inaccurate.

    The sad thing is that McFadden, DHB and Murphy played well and we only won by 2, at home, against the worst team in the league.

    We just don’t have the personnel to beat top-level teams. But Gradkowski will make the games worth watching.

  76. BigTed707 Says:

    Boo on Cable with that 4th down attempt in a 0-0 game.
    Boo on Jano for that shankeroo.

    We should have had at least 6 more. However, If we were up 9-7 at halftime, would Cable have made the change at QB?

  77. raiderfan12 Says:

    C’mon guys the Rams almost beat us. Wasn’t for the roughing the QB in the 4qtr we would have lost the game sure.

  78. 504 Raider Says:

    Raider O Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    Cable played Mario and Veldheer at LT. Who does that?!

    Who alternates their LTs in the same game?!
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Only O-Line Gurus do that sh!t.

  79. DKnight007 Says:

    Notice how when Grads came in the offense and whole team played better? Since the O-Line is not very good….a QB who gets rid of the ball quicker, has good pocket awareness, and who is mobile is very important for the Raiders offense right now.

    Can’t you blind people who don’t like Grads see that?

  80. raiderfan12 Says:

    In the 2nd half we should of score alot more points with Bruce and we didn’t.

  81. ArmChair GM Says:

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    September 17th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    With our o-line the way it is currently constructed, Gradkowski has already proven that he can win games and be successful, at home and ON THE ROAD.

    He proved it last year in Pittsburgh, and he proved it this year in the preseason when he took over when Campbell got hurt.

    So any support for Gradkowski shown here is based on what he has already shown, as opposed to Campbell who we are still playing the wait and see game. Period.
    ____________________________________________________

    Dare I say…..almost prophetic?

  82. DKnight007 Says:

    # raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    In the 2nd half we should of score alot more points with Bruce and we didn’t.

    ^^^^^^^
    Blame conservative play calling and penalties for that….

  83. BornInOakland Says:

    If anyone but BRUCE starts next Sunday then the Raiders are a sham! And I say that as a fan since 1975. He lifted this team up last year under Russell and was a complete difference after Campbell. Russell was an idiot. Campbell is not and I feel bad for him but this is the NFL and the only thing that matters is winning.

    Let Bruce G start all the time and those numbskull INT’s will go away too. The guy is Gannon. Let’s win this thing.

  84. raiderfan12 Says:

    Next week we play at Arizona with a better offense and defense and we will see how good Bruce is in the whole game.

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    C’mon guys the Rams almost beat us. Wasn’t for the roughing the QB in the 4qtr we would have lost the game sure.

    ********************************

    Bruce had the Rams frustrated, and caused penalties due to it.

  86. buckeyeraider Says:

    Ted,
    I thought the Raiders got a bad spot on DMac 3rd down run. Thought forward momentum clearly had first down. That was a bad call on 4th. They seemed to run the QB sneak effectively all preseason. They couldn’t do it again for what, 3 inches, a link in the chain?

    That hurt, comin away empty there. It seemed to give the Rams a lift,too.

  87. lefty12 Says:

    Ted-you don’ think we should have gone for it with 4th and inches?
    12-even without that penalty,weren’t we ahead.You don’t know we wouldn’t have won.We had been stopping them all day.

  88. DKnight007 Says:

    # raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    C’mon guys the Rams almost beat us. Wasn’t for the roughing the QB in the 4qtr we would have lost the game sure.

    ^^^^^^^
    Probably….but they didn’t.

    That doesn’t change the fact that the offense and team played better when Grads was the QB.

  89. beach Says:

    Great victory and Bruce was a LEADER. He is the starting QB. He has proven to everyone that he has the guts and toughness to win in the NFL. Jason Campbell belongs on the bench until BRUCE cannot physically play! Some guys have it, and a lot of guys don’t at the QB position. BRUCE has it!

  90. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    LOL at the QB settings in that league.

    55 pts for Romo who only had 1 TD and 2 picks?

    Ryan throws 3 TDs and only has 28 pts.

    TERRIBLE!

  91. BornInOakland Says:

    Oh and those of you that don’t want Bruce G to play….. What is your answer? And don’t say fire Cable. That’s not the question. If you don’t want Bruce in their, state yer case. Otherwise, shut the hell up. Complaining is easy. That’s for 12 year olds. What’s your answer?

  92. StayinBlack Says:

    Gruden drafted Bruce he was coached up by him for a few yrs and its evident that his ability to extend plays out of trouble situations and compete. Its Gradkowski demeanor that sets him apart from the other QB’s on our team. Now can he be consistent and bring home another winnable football game next week?

  93. raiderfan12 Says:

    Bruce did not frustrate the Rams, the Rams are just no good. The Raiders should of won by 20 points or more.

  94. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Campbell’s teams have always played better without him than with him.

    2007 ‘Skins, they went 4-0 with Todd f’n Collins after going 5-7 with Campbell!! Is Todd Collins even in the league anymore??

    Today was another example of that.

  95. DKnight007 Says:

    # raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Next week we play at Arizona with a better offense and defense and we will see how good Bruce is in the whole game.

    ^^^^^^^^
    He should do fine….as long as he doesn’t get hurt with the inconsistent O-Line play.

  96. BigTed707 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    C’mon guys the Rams almost beat us. Wasn’t for the roughing the QB in the 4qtr we would have lost the game sure.

    ********************************

    Bruce had the Rams frustrated, and caused penalties due to it.
    ____________________________
    Bruce earned that flag with his brilliant acting.

  97. Vinous Says:

    I think Cable continues to make good moves. The problem: talent.

    I don’t think anyone can say the Raiders made poor picks this draft with McClain and Houston as the top picks, but the Ol only has two rookies as backups. Neither are truly ready, though Valdheer may be ready around the 10th game. Barnes and Satele are disappointments. The defense with big changes this year are ready to perform at a high level.

    Grad is the right QB for this team because he gets rid of the ball. Campbell throws fine…but has a much slower tempo than Grad…and holds the ball too long. It is not JUST the OL, even though they should take a big part of the blame.

  98. ArmChair GM Says:

    # raiderfan12 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    C’mon guys the Rams almost beat us. Wasn’t for the roughing the QB in the 4qtr we would have lost the game sure.
    ________________________________________________________

    If it wasn’t for the Tuck Rule, we would have been to two Superbowls last decade.

    If it wasn’t for the Immaculate Reception, we would have been to yet another Superbowl.

    If the Cowboys offensive line didn’t hold last week on the last play of the game, they would have beaten the Redskins…

    we can go on and on

    It doesn’t matter. A win is a win.

    As many times as the Raiders have been victimized by terrible and at best questionable calls, we won the game and should be happy about it.

  99. SnakeStabler Says:

    Nobody has mentioned that we didn’t have Richard
    Seymour for this game either. And did Asomugha
    return after he was shook up on that tackle where
    he used his head?

  100. EMRaiders Says:

    I called Rams 7 Raiders 3 at the half.

    With the final being Rams 14 Raiders 17. Pretty good I have to say.

    Start Bruce, the fans in the stadium calling his name and the ones at home on the couch doing it too will translate to more sold out home games.

    Be smart Raiders, the guy has the heart and spark that this offense needs. I don’t think anybody can deny how the offense responds better to him.

    At times, JC had the same look JR had after plays.

    If you look at Bruce, he has a look of just having fun out there.

    My vote is with Bruce.

  101. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    I agree with you Ted. With our offensive line we have have no business going for it on fourth and inches.
    “You always take the points”–J. Madden.

  102. lefty12 Says:

    Shoulda,woulda,coulda-all that really matters is we did win the game.

  103. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Sorry to say.

    Jason Campbell was the WORST quarterback I have ever seen play…..at any level of football.

    He needs to be cut with immediate effect.

    Bruce may not be the long-term answer…but he’s the answer right now.

    Give him the ball and see if he can do it over the long-haul.

    If he’s the next Kurt Warner rags to riches..Great…

    If he’s the next Shaun Hill…well…he’s still the best option on the roster and will keep the team competitive…which is all I want for now.

    A win is a win dammmit and it feels pretty good.

    Still in it…1-1

    Oh, and when you stop the run…good things happen…like keeping your offense in the game and giving them many chances to do something with the ball

  104. buckeyeraider Says:

    Are you talkin about Arizona who got beat today like 31-6 or something like that? A team that also struggled with these same Rams week one. Next week is a winnable game. The NFL is a week to week league.

    Today’s win wasn’t a thing of beauty for sure. Start Bruce, and let’s see what happens. This offense should get M. Bush, Chaz and eventually Gallery back. Then, let’s see what we’ve got.

  105. hendu Says:

    Flores and Papa both had a problem with RMs body slam, 15 yard penalty,etc I kind of enjoyed it,back in the day,yea,you lose 15 yards, but it sends a message,I see both sides. As Coach Madden said,you have to be smart as to WHEN you slam them,period!

  106. DKnight007 Says:

    Glad to see D-Mac shut you haters up again! LOL!

    Luv it!

  107. J Hill Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I agree with you Ted. With our offensive line we have have no business going for it on fourth and inches.
    “You always take the points”–J. Madden.

    ——————————————————

    You HAVE to go for it in that situation.

    FB Dive to Reese was a HORRIBLE call though!

    INCHES ?????

    Shoulda been a QB sneak!

  108. beach Says:

    Give a ton of credit to DMAC, too! He played his heart out and got results 2 weeks in a row!

  109. new englandraider Says:

    Tyvon Branch directly responsible for 2 more TD’s today. 5 for the year. He is excellent in coverage. No liability there.

  110. itzSteve Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I guess Looper played well, no penalties that I remember, and no big lapses.

    Someone can correct me if not.

    ——————————————————-

    You are correct.

    He needs to be part of the starting 5.

    Didn’t miss Gallery one bit!

    Gallery needs to go back to OT!
    _____________________

    I guess no one saw the LB who killed Campbell in the second quarter when he ran right by Loper untouched…hmmmmm. Gallery get well quick, we need you!!!

  111. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Call me crazy, but I think Bruce lights it up for close to 400 yards next week.

    He will have his biggest fan in the audience!!!

  112. new englandraider Says:

    JHill post 18 already said it. Yep Branch 5 td’s so far.

  113. itzSteve Says:

    I think the OL bashing needs to concentrate on the pass blocking and blitz pick up…I’ll take 167 yds rushing all day long. Not bad for a no hope OL…

  114. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    That’s what I thought and said about the McClain upending hit Hendu.
    McClain left a memory in the mind of a lot of players on other teams.
    Slam ‘em like Tatum.

  115. TerrapinRaider Says:

    You guys are givin cred but i don’t think you really know just how big of a game DHB would have had today.

    I’m talkin about a 2TD 180yd performance ..it was or should have been a monster breakout game. But 1H of play was neglected with Campbell at QB.

  116. J Hill Says:

    I guess no one saw the LB who killed Campbell in the second quarter when he ran right by Loper untouched…hmmmmm. Gallery get well quick, we need you!!!

    ——————————————————

    Funny!

    When Veldheer was at C and Willis knifed in unblocked, everyone swore that was on the C.

  117. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Do we need Mr. Schilens taking up a roster spot on IR?

    Perhaps another O-Tackle should be brought in.

    And Tyvon Branch stays on the field….he played for this team last year and can still play.

    No, Mike Mitchell is not getting on the field in a starting role…

  118. lefty12 Says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again-it is amazing how the Oline doesn’t look nearly so bad when Grads is playing QB.He doesn’t just stand back waiting-he anticipates and gets rid of the ball.

  119. J Hill Says:

    Gallery get well quick, we need you!!!

    ——————————————————-

    At LT !!!!

  120. Raider O Says:

    McClain’s hit/ body-slam was great!
    I loved it, and I enjoyed watchng him celebrate.

    Do It again McClain!!!! Body- slam larry Fitz!!

  121. J Hill Says:

    And Tyvon Branch stays on the field….he played for this team last year and can still play.

    —————————————————-

    Start Stevie Brown.

    Branch gives up way too many TD in the passing game. And I mean plays where he is NO WHERE to be found.

    5 TDs in 2 games mayne! FIVE !!!!

    How many more do you want to see him give up?

  122. buckeyeraider Says:

    Gotta give a lot of the credit to DMac. I think we may finally be seeing what a healthy Darren McFadden can do. Now, the question is, can he stay healthy?

    The guy has been impressive so far. I couldn’t believe there were still some bashing him after last week. Hell, he was the only player on O to get off the plane in Tenn, last week. There were still people talking crap about him. Claiming he got it in garbage time, and talking about fantasy stats vs real stats. Just BS.

    Some people just like to whine and complain, I think. They should be getting back a 245 change of pace back here soon. They will make a nice 1-2 punch.

  123. lefty12 Says:

    JHill-it’s called selective bashing-if they don’t like you,everything’s your fault.

  124. J Hill Says:

    He doesn’t just stand back waiting-he anticipates and gets rid of the ball.

    ——————————————————

    Exactly!

  125. BigTed707 Says:

    145yds Rushing for DMC, 75yds for Steven Jackson.

    Who predicted that?

  126. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill,

    I haven’t forgotten what Branch did last year. Near Pro-Bowl year for the kid.

    Don’t throw him away yet. No way.

    Then we have to go through the same growing pains with Stevie Brown or some other kid.

    Branch stays.

  127. J Hill Says:

    Do we need Mr. Schilens

    ——————————————————

    Absolutely.

    8 games is better than nothing!

  128. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Stevie Brown earned his spot on the Raiders’ roster permanently, he and Mr. Groves made the two major tackles on punt and kick coverage.

  129. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Campbell is the WORST QB I have ever seen.

    I was getting ready to call for JaDavis after that 1st half.

    He’s a nice guy but a horrible QB…worst I have ever seen at any level of football.

    He’s terrible and should be cut immediately.

    I don’t know how I suckered myself into supporting the guy.

    Just awful…and once again reflects on the poor judgement of myself and the General Manager

  130. itzSteve Says:

    on a side note…other than the missed FG, the special teams were solid today…nice to see Stevie Brown contribute, and Groves…way to run into a tackle!

  131. Raider O Says:

    Huff played Great, and so did DMC, Bruce, McClain, Routt, Wimbley, and Groves.
    The DL, and the D had a good day. I know it was the Rams, but our D looks good so far.

  132. morilla Says:

    Still a lot of things to work on. Gallery needs to be moved to LT. It was obvious to see the difference in play when Grads comes in. But we all know that happens. He needs to stay the starter until proven otherwise. DMAC continues to make me a believer. When that team gets on fire they are a force. They also need to watch on finishing the game, it almost turned into another Raider “let them back in it” situation.

    McClain made a statement today. He knew he would get flagged for that but didn’t give a f–k. They need to continue to play pissed off.

  133. J Hill Says:

    Near Pro-Bowl year for the kid.

    ——————————————————

    Not even close!

    Made a BUNCH of mistakes in the passing game last year. SO WHAT he made a bunch of tackles against the run. They were FAR from impact plays. A lot of “Kirk Morrison” type tackles.

    A safety giving up TDs is NOT doing his job!

  134. hendu Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER, like the way you think,pick the right time and place, its a friggin contact sport.

  135. UCSBPreMedMike Says:

    Mike Shanahan: “Yea, we lost in overtime today. But, I got over on Al Davis, once again, into taking Jason Campbell…$4 million sucka! So it makes up for it! Bwahahaha.”

  136. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Best news though even as great a day as Mr. McFadden, leading rusher of the day in the NFL had as well as the comeback victory Mr. Gradkowski had; that Mr. Heyward-Bey & Mr. Murphy each led the team with six, yes 6 receptions for 80-90 yds each. We now have two legit starting WRs.

  137. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Yup…Al Davis needs to stay out of the QB business

    Back 2 back…2 worst QBs in NFL history on his roster….Pathetic

  138. J Hill Says:

    I don’t know how I suckered myself into supporting the guy.

    —————————————————–

    Well whatever it was, you’re doing it for Branch now, lol!

  139. RaiderRetribution Says:

    and just as important was the play of Mr. Routt and Mr. Huff their pass coverage was outstanding.

  140. Raider O Says:

    Huff and Branch are our best S now, Brown needs to develop, and Mitchell needs to improve his coverage skills.
    WRs are paid to play too, and that WR made a great catch. Get over it.

  141. 504 Raider Says:

    Last night I watched LSU game and their CB Pat Peterson is like Revis. Actually he is like Charles Woodson because he returns kicks and ints to the House. He was matched up with Miss State’s top receiver all night. There was a big 3rd down play where he wasn’t on top WR but quickly realized it before the snap and quickly switched to him.

    I know we don’t have a #1 pick but Al might try to trade up for this guy. He is the Real Deal.

    The best thing I like about this kid is he demands to the coaches to cover the best WR and to return punts. That is something our $15 million man does not do.

  142. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Man, I lost some money on Dallas today but picked it up on Houston.

  143. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Ravens are probably wishing they had kept Clayton.

  144. lefty12 Says:

    We’ve always had them-today we had a QB use them.

  145. J Hill Says:

    I gotta believe that the 4 million to Jason Campbell was not guaranteed.

  146. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    I gotta believe that the 4 million to Jason Campbell was not guaranteed.
    ==================================
    I hope not.

    Would have been better off giving the $4M to JaDavis.

    Just an awful, awful QB.

    Cut him right now!!!!!

  147. MetalRaiders Says:

    McFadden looks good this season I just hope he can stay healthy. I enjoyed the win today but the Raiders are lucky to have played a team worse than them and have teams similar or worse than them the next 6 games. So this should give them a chance to get their offense going where they can start scoring some touchdowns. Cause the 2nd half schedule is going to be murder. You saw what happened when they played a good team. They still have a long way to go to become a good team.

  148. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider O Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
    Huff and Branch are our best S now, Brown needs to develop, and Mitchell needs to improve his coverage skills.
    WRs are paid to play too, and that WR made a great catch. Get over it.
    ===============================================
    Good post

  149. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Solid Defensive line performance, strong & consistent run defensive stops from the DTs by Mr. Kelley, Mr. Henderson, and Mr. Bryant.

  150. edward teach Says:

    If Bruce has to throw for 400 yards next week we’re in trouble.

    Bush could play. If he does, we pound it right down their throats with him and Dmac until they start cheating to stop it, then we beat them with play action.

    I hope we force the issue on defense. If we only rush four and sit back their receivers will kill us.

  151. buckeyeraider Says:

    SnB,
    Campbell does not seem to be the right QB for this team, especially with this O-line. He seems to have no pocket presence, and holds the ball too damn long.

    Somebody, Kirk I believe called it correctly. On his one sack and fumble, he had a nice pocket to to step up in, but just stood there.

    Veldheer, didnt do a bad job really. Ran his guy around the corner….JC just didn’t feel the rush and step up in the pocket. Result..sack and fumble.

    The O-line just looks much better with Grads. Senses the rush, gets the ball out quicker and just seems to play with urgency and purpose. And it seems like he is genuinely enjoying himself and having fun out there. Which is infectous with his teammates. In a good way.

  152. Raider O Says:

    Branch had a great season last year, he had 1 PB vote, and now you want him on out!?!
    He is still developing, and he couldn’t play his rookie season due to injury!

  153. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Mitchell needs to check with Huff on how to cover and Huff needs to check with Mitchell on how to hit.
    Huff had a pretty good game though.

  154. J Hill Says:

    Stevie Brown is a SS!

    Remember the coaches wanted to keep him over MITCHELL!

    A former LB, and his touted around the ball skills?!?!?

    I want to see him NOW!

    Pretty obvious that the TWO remaming weak links as starters on defense are Branch and Scott.

  155. skjjcruz Says:

    The Polish Pharoah leads us to victory and over a team we were supposed to beat!

    It’s a great day in the Nation! Tom it’s not a fluke, Gradkowski’s the man, don’t go back to JC. We’ ve got a team that can win games, just give us a chance, leave the Pharoah behind center and the Raiders can finally compete!

  156. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    The team came alive with Bruce on the field. Should be a no brainer to start Grads next weekend, Cable does not have a brain though, and Al hand picked the next Plunkett, so Raiderlogic says they start JC….DMac made me a believer, no more hating on my part, dude ran with attitude and purpose!

  157. new englandraider Says:

    we can’t just go by stats to judge whether a player is good or not. If you look at the amount of plays Branch was on the field for, compared to others at his position, the numbers are staggering. He played well over 100 more plays than the next guy in tackles for DB’s. Bottom line is, his numbers are skewed. When your defense is on the field for more than half the game, someone is going to have huge tackling numbers. Branch is not impressive at all. Although he did have a nice stuff today.

  158. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders will have two sack leaders with 10 plus sacks this season (I called it two weeks ago), Mr. Wimbley with another & Mr. Houston with the key taking the Rams out of the red zone sack, keeping the Rams from scoring early. Mr. Scott was in Bradford’s face all day as well.

  159. beach Says:

    Defense was solid. I loved the way we jumped on Bradford on the opening drive! That’s how you treat a rookie QB!

  160. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Buckeye,

    J.C is not the right QB for the NFL….I have never seen worst play than I have the 1st 6 QTRs of this season.

    We were headed to losing to the worst team in the NFL….and a 1-15 season with that unbelievalbe BUST of a QB.

    JaDavis and Jason Campbell…LSU and Auburn don’t know QBs

    AL Davis has shelled out a lot of money to the two worst QBs in NFL history…JaDavis and Campbell!

    Wow!

  161. morilla Says:

    I think I am going to order a #55 jersey just because of that slam. A rookie comes in and pulls that? A lot of respect was earned for that young man today.

  162. 504 Raider Says:

    Who’s our center next week? Darnell Dockett cleans my colon.

  163. RaiderRetribution Says:

    O-Line still struggled in pass protection, run blocking was solid.

    Mr. Vehldeer getting bulldogged by a safety though; I’m sure that taught him to get low.

  164. Raider O Says:

    SnB,

    Branch is not great, but he is solid at SS. We have a few young Ss behind him and Huff to compete as well. I don’t worry about Ss as much as I do the OL. We have a lot of problems there.

  165. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill,

    Branch can hit and he can run. He’s made plays…the Rams scored 14 points….come’on man!

    The receiver made a good play.

    We need to stop rushing rookies around here and let them develop some.

    Branch is the Strong Safety…not even a question mark for me really

  166. J Hill Says:

    O and SnB …

    You guys like Branch ????

    Fine by me.

    You are entitled to your incorrect opinions.

    5 TDs and counting!

    You jump all over Huff for missing a tackle in the preseason, but 5 TDs given up by your boy is not an issue?

    LMFAO!

  167. lefty12 Says:

    Branch is by far the weak leak on our Def. at this point in time.He is constantly getting burnt and missing key tackles.If he doesn’t step it up he should lose his starting job.If his name was Routt,people would be screaming for his head.

  168. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Morilla, I agree that Mr. McClain’s slam was awesome even though it cost us 15yds and made for a quick TD, it helped set a tone the Raiders had not had on defense in a very long time. Even more so was him inspiring the crowd and accepting the penalty.

  169. J Hill Says:

    Branch can hit and he can run.

    —————————————————–

    He’s a S not a LB!

    PRIMARY responsiblity if PASS defense.

    Not looking forward to him checking Gates twice and Vernon Davis.

  170. 504 Raider Says:

    McClain is going to get fined $5,000 for that Slam. The good news is that he will get an endorsement deal with Denny’s.

    Introducing Denny’s New 5 Grand Slams, by Rolando McClain.

  171. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did MM34 even play today??

  172. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    saw that too. a safety put vehldeer on his azz on a bull rush, pretty pathetic

  173. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am probably the only one NOT to jump on Huff at all.

    He’s doing a fine job as well.

    The problem has been the front 7 slowing down the RB…they did that today…hence no misses from the safety.

    and 5TDs? You still blaming Branch for that bomb to Nate Washington….that’s what happens when you instruct your safeties to be aggressive on the run.

    The pass interference…that’s life….

    Stevie Brown will make all sorts of mistakes out there for a lot longer than a game….see Veldheer.

    I had no problem with the effort from the defense today.

    None…and I haven’t been able to say that very often

  174. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Chris Johnson might be a great replacement at SS. He has always been a solid tackler. He has lost a step in pass coverage, though I do not think it will be that concerning from the SS position as one does not have to be as quick as a corner.

  175. new englandraider Says:

    you guys couldn’t be more right in your assessment of Branch. He doesn’t cover at all, bites easily on play fakes, and misses point of attack tackles.

  176. armond Says:

    snb do we have to cut everybody u dont like.if campbell isnt the starter then he would be a viable backup. damn u flip on people real quick.

  177. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    J Hill Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    Branch can hit and he can run.

    —————————————————–

    He’s a S not a LB!

    PRIMARY responsiblity if PASS defense.

    Not looking forward to him checking Gates twice and Vernon Davis.
    ==============================================
    When your front 7 has struggled like it did in week 1…your safety is going to focus on run defense…..a weakness of this team for sure and why so many safeties have been run out of here.

    If the front 7 plays well…you will see more 10 and 14 point games this year…..Branch can check the TE….

  178. 30 year raider Says:

    gallery is not being moved to LT… ITS VELDHEERS position he will get better week by week.. loper played pretty well… it was either him or satele idk who that allowed laurinaitas in on that 2nd qrt sack… t.branch needs to be out there period! s. brown should not be thrown out there like veldheers was last week – give brown some plays here and there tho…..dmac looks like a man on a mission…him and bush will form a solid one 2 punch…

    JUST FIRE BABY— PROPS ON THE CAMBPELL BENCHING OF GAME 2 AT THE HALF…

  179. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    blame branch all you want. Our D line is not built to stop the run. fix the dline, then blame the safeties all you want

  180. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I talked a lot about Huff, but I did say he played well the last 2 weeks. I want to see the best players on the field, and at this time Huff is the best FS. I also think Branch is the best SS. We need to improve our pass rush, to allow our DBs to make more plays. Period!

  181. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Next week wherever Larry Fitzgerald is, Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha must and will be there.

  182. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    armond Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    snb do we have to cut everybody u dont like.if campbell isnt the starter then he would be a viable backup. damn u flip on people real quick.
    =====================================
    I don’t want to see Campbell take another snap. The team looks slow and that says a lot with all the track stars out there.

    Kyle Boller is the backup at a lot cheaper price tag.

    With Campbell on the roster…good ole Al will still be tempted.

    Campbell is horrible and I am calling it right now.

    I have flipped on him because he is a terrible, terrible QB.

    He should be out of the league man

  183. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    504!

    I like that!

    Denny’s new McClain Slam-every offensive player on every opposing team can have one for free!

  184. armond Says:

    branch reacts too slow to a play. he doesnt anticipate the ball comin his way even tho he should cuz people are attacking him now.

  185. buckeyeraider Says:

    Vegas,
    He was in on special teams, I know. Saw him jumping on Groves after Groves got blocked into the kickoff returner. Don’t think he got in on defense, though.

    Maybe the guy in Fla. was right, and the def. staff has soured on him.

    Man, was I wrong. I thought he would be a big part of the defensive gameplan. Not a starter at safety, but I thouhgt Marshall would really be sending him after QB’s. So far, he can’t seem to get on the field.

  186. morilla Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    Morilla, I agree that Mr. McClain’s slam was awesome even though it cost us 15yds and made for a quick TD, it helped set a tone the Raiders had not had on defense in a very long time. Even more so was him inspiring the crowd and accepting the penalty.
    ——————————————–

    That was so good to see. He knew it was coming and got up and started to get the crowd into it. They need that. I am all for that kind of play once and awhile and taking those kind of flags. You want to scare the sh-t out of people. You want them to fear you. It’s something that hasn’t been there in a very long time.

  187. new englandraider Says:

    I’m not talking about Branch against the run. i’m talking about his lack of coverage ability and the fact that he bites hard on play fakes.

  188. morilla Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    blame branch all you want. Our D line is not built to stop the run. fix the dline, then blame the safeties all you want
    ———————————
    They did a pretty good job in the second half. They can play when they want to.

  189. 30 year raider Says:

    CAMBPELL looks scared out there plain an simple… scared and lost… lacks confidence…

  190. DKnight007 Says:

    Some of you people forget that Veldheer, Brown and McClain are still ummmmm….ROOKIES?

    Rookies makes mistakes people….just have to hope they are limited mistakes and they learn from their mistakes quickly!

  191. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Jason Campbell is a good quarterback. He is too stiff though to succeed with this offensive line.

    He needs to roll out when needed, get in the players faces, instead of being the calm quarterback, if he is not going to be a rah-rah type of leader.

  192. Hot Shot Says:

    Bruce brought fun into the game.The raiders were having fun out there.It was great to see.They look flat with campbell in there.

  193. 30 year raider Says:

    # buckeyeraider Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Vegas,
    He was in on special teams, I know. Saw him jumping on Groves after Groves got blocked into the kickoff returner. Don’t think he got in on defense, though.

    Maybe the guy in Fla. was right, and the def. staff has soured on him.

    Man, was I wrong. I thought he would be a big part of the defensive gameplan. Not a starter at safety, but I thouhgt Marshall would really be sending him after QB’s. So far, he can’t seem to get on the field.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    whats up buckeye?? i was thinking the same thing when that fla guy wrote that a few weeks ago..mm#34 will get passed up on the depth chart by s.brown in 2 weeks

  194. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Vehldeer will be a great offensive lineman, but he does need to eat more fish and many more steaks.

  195. itzSteve Says:

    what I don’t understand is…Campbell has a stronger arm than Grads, why didn’t Hue call any of those quick slants to DHB when HE was in the game…the play calling was different in the second half. Hue was WAY more conservative when Campbell was in the game.

  196. Raider O Says:

    Buckeye,

    Groves played on ST and Defense. He was our WLB. TH played too.

  197. lefty12 Says:

    ‘When your front 7 has struggled as it did in week 1′-kind of funny.Take away the 1 long Johnson run that Branch missed the tackle on and Johnson avgs less than 3.5 yds per carry.

  198. 30 year raider Says:

    i still think we need to deal for logan mankins and put him in at C tho… a starting 5 of
    lt veldheers
    lg gallery
    c mankins
    rg loper
    rt walker or mario
    might be arite with a more mobile QB

  199. morilla Says:

    Reading the comments on ESPN and NFL.com. Washington fans are posting all over the place on there. There seems to be one constant theme.

    “See, we told you so!”

  200. 30 year raider Says:

    # itzSteve Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    what I don’t understand is…Campbell has a stronger arm than Grads, why didn’t Hue call any of those quick slants to DHB when HE was in the game…the play calling was different in the second half. Hue was WAY more conservative when Campbell was in the game.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    like i said hes lost out there.. has no confidence and now everyone knows it…cambpell has a deer in the headlights look

  201. SnakeStabler Says:

    Start Snake next week versus the Cards not Lamonica.

  202. armond Says:

    snb u said the same sh!t about dmc dhb last year as well. my point is u flip on anybody and it doesnt take much.keepin grads doesnt mean cutting campbell. based on your reasoning we should cut branch 2. u defend him but he has been a weak link giving up these td’s.dont see what scott did to unseat shawny either. get these personal moves in order and we can do some thangs.

  203. RaiderRetribution Says:

    504 I’m going to Denny’s tommorow night and having a grand-slam, just because of you & Mr. McClain.

    that was one of the best posts

  204. beach Says:

    Cable’s best move as a Head Coach in the NFL: going to the bench and Gradkowski to save the day! YES!

  205. itzSteve Says:

    # 30 year raider Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    # itzSteve Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    what I don’t understand is…Campbell has a stronger arm than Grads, why didn’t Hue call any of those quick slants to DHB when HE was in the game…the play calling was different in the second half. Hue was WAY more conservative when Campbell was in the game.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    like i said hes lost out there.. has no confidence and now everyone knows it…cambpell has a deer in the headlights look
    ______________________

    that’s why I don’t get it…those types of plays are designed to create rhythm and give the QB some confidence. Hue never created that rhythm for Campbell’s confidence to grow.

  206. buckeyeraider Says:

    How’s it going 30 Yr?
    Trying to keep things in perspective. I didn’t want to get too low after last weeks debacle. Wasn’t the end of the world. Don’t want to overreact after this win. This was a game they should’ve won. They struggled at home vs lowly Rams.

    But a win is a win. Next week is a winnable one too. I’d like to see this team start to build some confidence. Last year, after a win the next week they’d seem to fall on their face. Like to see them put together back to back w’s.

    As far as MM34, I’d like to see more of him out there. Maybe he needs to improve his coverage, but he defenitely brings a physical presence this team needs. Plus, he has a knack for blitzing. Times them well. Hopefully he gets back in Marshall’s good graces.

  207. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Snake great analogy, love the old school.

    Mad Bomber & the [real] Snake.

    Mr. Lamonica had Mr. Wells & Mr. Biletnekoff to throw to, Stabler had Fred & Mr. Branch, greatest difference though to both of their successes was they each had the best center-left side line in the NFL in Mr. Shell, Mr. Upshaw, & Mr. Otto & Mr. Dalby.

  208. Hot Shot Says:

    Bruce knows the offense alot better and changes plays at the line.He also reads defenses better than campbell.

  209. DKnight007 Says:

    # Hot Shot Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Bruce knows the offense alot better and changes plays at the line.He also reads defenses better than campbell.

    ^^^^^^^
    Another plus for Grads to be the starter.

    Grads basically has greater intangibles than JC does right now as the starter for this team.

  210. itzSteve Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    # Hot Shot Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Bruce knows the offense alot better and changes plays at the line.He also reads defenses better than campbell.

    ^^^^^^^
    Another plus for Grads to be the starter.

    Grads basically has greater intangibles than JC does right now as the starter for this team.
    ________________

    intangibles = HEART!!!

  211. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I like our set of defensive backs, we are deep, very deep, Raiders’ deepest since the Raiders were running with the night:
    Mr. Nnamdi Aomugha, Mr. Routt, Mr. Huff, Mr. Branch, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Ware, & Mr. Stevie Brown.

  212. RaiderRetribution Says:

    & Mr. Eugene

  213. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    What are you all going to do when JC starts the game in Arizona? you know Al is going to ask for the next Plunkett

  214. RaiderRetribution Says:

    great move the Raiders made this morning, cutting Mr. Pears and signing & activating Mr. Brown.

  215. morilla Says:

    wait until halftime when he gets pulled again.

  216. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Our D looked OK against a rookie QB and the worst team in the NFL. Please understand that the Cards are going to hang 20+ next week on us.

  217. 30 year raider Says:

    # buckeyeraider Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    How’s it going 30 Yr?
    Trying to keep things in perspective. I didn’t want to get too low after last weeks debacle. Wasn’t the end of the world. Don’t want to overreact after this win. This was a game they should’ve won. They struggled at home vs lowly Rams.

    But a win is a win. Next week is a winnable one too. I’d like to see this team start to build some confidence. Last year, after a win the next week they’d seem to fall on their face. Like to see them put together back to back w’s.

    As far as MM34, I’d like to see more of him out there. Maybe he needs to improve his coverage, but he defenitely brings a physical presence this team needs. Plus, he has a knack for blitzing. Times them well. Hopefully he gets back in Marshall’s good graces.
    ###############

    hes a specialty player BUCKEYE, i do like him in those blitz packages as well but hes prob a liability in coverage… when BUSH ans CHAZ come back the offense will have a few more playmakers to work with

  218. kidseven Says:

    Where are the Bruce haters? “He’s a castoff…he’s not an NFL QB….he’s too small…weak arm…fragile…” did I miss anything?

    All he does is make plays.

    No QB controversy.

  219. morilla Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    Our D looked OK against a rookie QB and the worst team in the NFL. Please understand that the Cards are going to hang 20+ next week on us.
    —————————————————

    with what weapons? Did you see their performance today?

  220. Raidervill Says:

    Grads deserves the start against the Cards. He proved it on the field in the preseason and today in the 2nd half.

    Grads already has great chemistry with Miller/Murphy and started something with DHB today.

    Grads makes quicker decisions with the ball.

    Grads makes game winning plays. The toss to Murphy with two Rams in his face was the game winner and a thing of beauty.

    Grads may not be perfect, but he makes the Raiders competitive right now. There is no reason he can’t be as good as Jeff Garcia was for the Niners. That is who he reminds me of. Small put smart, tough and just knows how to play the position.

    One Nation Baby…

  221. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    No QB controversy……I hope.

  222. Hot Shot Says:

    The raiders made the mistake of making Campbell starter instead of having him compete for it.Same thing they did with russell.Campbell clearly was not the best Qb in preseason yet he still started.Personal clearly don,t put the best on the field.

  223. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Next week, the Raiders are going to run Mr. Bush down there throats and Mr. McFadden will turn the corners, he ran hard today and smart. What I liked most was when there was nothing there Darren turned up field and got a yard or two.

    (Although the Raiders need to stop running behind Mr. Carlsie & Mr. Walker in short yardage situations- stopped for a loss twice in the red zone).

    One will have a hundred yards, (I can see Mr. McFadden getting a spell after this weeks load), each will score.

  224. 30 year raider Says:

    # Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    What are you all going to do when JC starts the game in Arizona? you know Al is going to ask for the next Plunkett
    #########################

    your right he may start next week but if hes flat again he should get YANKRD AT THE END OF THE 1ST QRT.. SCREW WAITING TILL THE HALF….

  225. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Ohhhhh yeah dig it Macho!

  226. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Im a jc guy but today bruce showed his worth…..i gotta roll wiht pop gun

  227. mikedlopes Says:

    Campbell had some deep throws on the first drive, and he had some nice check downs to DHB/DMAC/Murphy. It’s not our fault he takes a whole game trying to find a rhythm. Gradwinski brought a surge of power to our O-line, and our receivers put in some good work! DMAC is a leading rusher in the NFL now.. If we can just capitalize on our the gifts our defense/special teams bring up and convert more 3rd downs and capitalize when we get near the red zone. We will be a force..

    especially once seymore, gallery, chaz get back.. omg.. then Tyvon just needs to learn how to cover and we’ll be winners all day.

  228. mikedlopes Says:

    not to mention when Campbell did have time, he just M.Henderson’d on us and just stared at the clouds.

  229. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Hot shot I agree, Gradkowski though never got a shot to compete at all though due to his injury as well as the preselection of Mr. Campbell.

    There will be a QB controversy, because of the fan & media factor.

    One major plus for Bruce is when Mr. Zach Miller, yes Zach not one of the WRs dropped a ball late, Grads cringed, but then laughed with the team, kept the team together. Final drive made the passes to Louis & Co. as well as Darren’s tough runs sealed the victory.

  230. DKnight007 Says:

    # itzSteve Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    # DKnight007 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    # Hot Shot Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Bruce knows the offense alot better and changes plays at the line.He also reads defenses better than campbell.

    ^^^^^^^
    Another plus for Grads to be the starter.

    Grads basically has greater intangibles than JC does right now as the starter for this team.
    ________________

    intangibles = HEART!!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    Intangibles = Playmakiing ability and the ability to make something happen out of nothing.

  231. zopi Says:

    Guess someone finally saw the light.
    Great going with Gradkz and letting Hue loose.
    Campbell should stay in the bench, and I would even say get Boller ahead of him.
    I’d rather see Boller end up as the starter, anyone but Campbell.
    Great someone rectified before it was too late. The change sparked everyone.
    Now if they could only throw away the Cable guy.
    On the defensive side, someone needs to weed out that dummy Branch

  232. DKnight007 Says:

    The only person in the entire Raider organization who will want Campbell to start the next game will be of course the Old Looney Delusonal man Al Davis!

    Oy vey….not that meddling old man again and his warped decision making! Ugh…

  233. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Rams are a better team than they were last year, this year the worst team is… they do have a really good quarterback in Sam Bradford, so this is a great victory, and somewhat like playing in & making your first catch in a real game, the confidence grows, and it will especially for our WRs and front seven, they were w/o there best player , Mr. Seymour today.

  234. itzSteve Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    # itzSteve Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    # DKnight007 Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    # Hot Shot Says:
    September 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Bruce knows the offense alot better and changes plays at the line.He also reads defenses better than campbell.

    ^^^^^^^
    Another plus for Grads to be the starter.

    Grads basically has greater intangibles than JC does right now as the starter for this team.
    ________________

    intangibles = HEART!!!

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

    Intangibles = Playmakiing ability and the ability to make something happen out of nothing.
    ________________________

    Grads <———— Makes every one of his teammates play better!!!

  235. raideralex99 Says:

    I guess Shanahan tried to pull a fast one over Al but Cable was smart enought to figure it out … Campbell sucks.

  236. Hot Shot Says:

    Bruce plays just like Rich Gannon use too.Smart and studies.knows how to read defenses.Changes plays at the line.Uses all the players on the team to spread the ball around kinda like the saints run their offense.Knows his stuff.Campbell looks like a lost kid out there.Campbell is boring to watch too.

  237. raiderzmaverick Says:

    2nd Half, our D totally came to life. They stopped them for like 5 drives in a row which were almost 3 and out.

    If we play like we did in that 2nd half we will be a descent team. But, like they said last week when 1 game doesn’t determine the whole season, one good half of football doesn’t either. Both sides need to keep up the energy level and carry it over to the next game.

  238. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I think the worst play was one of the last in the 2nd quarter. Campbell dropped back to pass, didn’t find anyone, had time and just threw the ball at his feet to get rid of it. There was not a defender within 4 yards of him and none had broken away from their defender. He just gave up as his primary dumpoff option wasn’t open.

  239. Que Says:

    I am new to replying on this blog but there has been some racial tones i ve seen in the past . for example jerome plunkett. I know some of us wouldnt say these kinds of things if we were in the company of african american company. I also think we should still wait and see before making a huge change a qb so soon. I think cable has opened up something that could ruin the team. The win was important but its still about a bigger picture and that would be could our short thrower leader of men which I ll say myself is a leader but what happens when you go from coming off the bench and the other team and defensive coordinator game plans for you. Its very much different being the starter who is game planned for. Bruce gives the spark and has passion one can only hope he can throw that ball deeper when the times comes. I watched the game again and still thought the same, a win but the quick yank of players by cable my not be good for the team in the long run. The tackles slash centers lol , the qbs . This team is still the team with a bad offensive line very unknown WRs and maybe junk QBs. One guy has the ability to short ball and stay in games and teh other with time can do exactly what Al davis and the raiders have been . HArd runs and PLay action. Thats raiderway, its something I have myself had a hard time staying to like , I am a die hard gruden guy. And still upset this guy isnt coaching today.good win go raiders

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