Gradkowski on “Into the Night”
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 at 11:32 am in Oakland Raiders.
A transcription of an interview with Raiders quarterback Bruce Gradkowski on “Into the Night” with Tony Bruno, courtesy of Sports Radio Interviews.com:
On whether or not he thinks he will start this weekend:
Gradkowski: You never know. I just have to be prepared and keep working like I’ve been. If my number gets called again, I’ll just come in there and try and do what I did the other night. The fans are awesome. The way that stadium was rocking the other day was unbelievable and I love those fans more than they even know.
On whether or not he thinks the fans might’ve influenced Tom Cable’s decision:
Gradkowski: I don’t know if they influenced coach or not, but I think they just wanted to see what I could do and if I could give us a spark. I was very fortunate that we played well in the second half. Our guys were playing well. The young guys, Darrius (Heyward-Bey) and Louis (Murphy) had a great game and along with Darren McFadden, he played tough. Our offensive line was playing tough like they always do. It was a really good effort on all parts of the offense and our whole team. Our defense, some of the hits they made in the second half were unbelievable.
On what his favorite nickname is:
Gradkowski: Yeah. I really don’t care. I like hearing them all. I like that Bruce Almighty, that’s pretty sweet. Anything they say, that’s cool with me. I just go with the flow. It was definitely exciting hearing the fans chant my name and it was a good day and hopefully more to come.
On when he thinks he will know about starting:
Gradkowski: Yeah. You probably should know by Wednesday. Jason is a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback room, we’re in this together, we all have the same goal and that’s to win and win a championship this year. It’s going to be tough but we need to focus and do whatever it takes to do that.
On whether he thinks he has been given a fair shot to start in Oakland:
Gradkowski: Yeah I’d like to think that. You always want to compete and do the best you can to be the starter. It was very unfortunate the injuries I had over this past offseason. I can’t control that. It was hard for me to really compete for the starting job when I wasn’t out there. We acquired Jason, he’s a good quarterback and we just have to get things rolling and get on the right track this year.
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September 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
I was Oaktown last week so the wifee will be like ” You just went to a game, why do you need to go again!”
All who are married, know exactly what I’m talking about!
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LOL @ ray
yup – been there quite often!
my wife got mad at me on Saturday because we had rented a movie and got a Degiorno pizza for lunch, but HER brother called and asked if I could go down to the river and help him put his cabin on blocks. I skipped lunch and spent ALL friggin day helping him dig gravel, dirt and move cement blocks. we got finished just before dark and when I got home she was p1ssed because she had to be bored at home while I was away.
I said “YOUR brother needed MY help”. haha. oh well, chalk it up to pregnant hormones I guess
September 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
I love those fans more than they even know.
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I love you too Bruce
September 21st, 2010 at 11:36 am
Repost
LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:34 am
Mistic, Cable’s best moves BY FAR as head coach have been to bench the owner’s lost cause tall, big-armed quarterback.
Campbell just happens to be a nicer guy and can put sentences together.
I’m sure the team is behind Grad. The only reason Campbell got the job anyway was because 1. Bruce was injured and 2. he’s a pet project.
Why are we waiting for this guy to develop and reach his ceiling when we have a developed guy on the roster who ALREADY HAS a chemistry with the team?
In other words, you’re saying:
Well Jason has a higher ceiling because, um… he’s taller with a bigger arm. So let’s start him despite the ineffectiveness over the guy who is already playing well.
Again, Nation, Campbell is not a rookie.
He doesn’t have the vision by now, doubt he ever will.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:36 am
Bruce!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:38 am
Our offensive line was playing tough like they always do.
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LOL! Bruce is in serious denial. He’s certainly slurping Tom Cable with that comment!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
BBBBBBRRRRRRUUUUUUUCCCCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:40 am
You probably should know by Wednesday. Jason is a good quarterback.
We acquired Jason, he’s a good quarterback
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twice?
we know Bruce, we know. thats why he’s starting!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:40 am
DHB and Luis Murphy I’m sure really like getting the ball and they have shown what they can do when Bruce is in there.
I know Luis has had a couple of key drops already this season but its no secret that his best game came with Bruce at the helm at it appears the trend will continue unless Cable is overriden.
Cable’s gotten in Al’s ear before and he can do it again.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:40 am
You guys are goofy. BOTH quarterbacks are pretty servicable, and by playing each of them we are just improving our odds that one will take the reins and become great.
Like I typed earlier, Campbell must react well to this lesson and play better because Gradkowski is likely to keep getting it done.
In no way is this going to divide the locker room. Cable handled the JRuss situation and kept the team unified. He will make sure the players know that QB is open for competition just like every other non-kicking spot.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:41 am
He will make sure the players know that QB is open for competition just like every other non-kicking spot.
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or long-snapping spot
September 21st, 2010 at 11:42 am
Gradkowski: I don’t know if they influenced coach or not, but I think they just wanted to see what I could do and if I could give us a spark. I was very fortunate that we played well in the second half. Our guys were playing well. The young guys, Darrius (Heyward-Bey) and Louis (Murphy) had a great game and along with Darren McFadden, he played tough. Our offensive line was playing tough like they always do. It was a really good effort on all parts of the offense and our whole team. Our defense, some of the hits they made in the second half were unbelievable.
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That is a LEADER!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:42 am
Rue the Day List – Gradkowski Edition
September 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
Jason is a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback room, we’re in this together, we all have the same goal and that’s to win and win a championship this year. It’s going to be tough but we need to focus and do whatever it takes to do that.
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TEAM PLAYER! Jason – take notes, you whiny b1tch!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
THE RUE THE DAY THEY HATED ON OR WERE WISHY-WASHY ON GRADKOWSKI LIST:
Mistic1
Priesttj
Dakota
RaiderRockstar
Severeraiderz
Fat Kidd
KoolKell
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams
Raider75
THE SOON TO BE VINDICATED LIST:
Just Fire Baby
LA to TheBay
The Big Banana
Aig-Raiders
ArmChair GM
Kirk
TerrapinRaider
Try Some Reality
Beach
JB
Raider-DEE
Lefty12
IslandRaider
Armond
Braveheartraider
Raiderzmaverick
Bcz24
Weaselbit
Exlaraidersseasonticketholder
R8eray
Plunketthead
4eva
Chris in NY
September 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
I don’t know about the lockeroom but it has strangely divided the Raider Nation.
It must be a fear of Gradkowski’s physical stature and arm strength more than an endorsement of Campbell’s talent as obviously, he is not a rookie and has reels and reels of tape showing poor play.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
or long-snapping spot
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In my dreams
September 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
Tony Bruno should have said “shredded knees, torn pec and a pulled groin since your last NFL start. whats next … turf toe?”
September 21st, 2010 at 11:45 am
Quick note on the idea that Campbell needs time to develop. What about the WR’s? They are starving for development time and game experience with Campbell under center. With Grads, they are getting the ball and getting opportunities to make catches, and gain YAC. Developing Campbell during a lost cause season sounds OK in theory, but not when his development hamstrings the development of 5 other guys on the roster. I am OK with whomever we roll with on Sunday, but I hope it is for the right reasons, not development. We have been “developing” for 7 years, its time this team gets a “win now” attitude, even if they don’t yet have a “win now” skill set.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:46 am
Gradkowski’s throws didn’t look that weak to me. Certainly zippier than Gannon or Stabler. I think it is the side arm thing that worries…too many tips. But the kid is very accurate and his timing is right.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:47 am
Typical non commital blandishments. What else can we expect nowadays?
September 21st, 2010 at 11:48 am
Jason Campbell has accomplished more in Washington than Bruce Gradkowski has accomplished in Tampa Bay, St Louis or Cleveland. Even Oakland (last year)
to say it’s 50/50 would be a compliment to Grads and an insult to JCamp!
neither player is PROVEN or SOLID.
run the ball & play good defense to ensure wins
September 21st, 2010 at 11:49 am
“Blandishments” Great word!! I had to google it.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:50 am
What has Jason accomplished?
Bruce Gradkowski owns multiple NFL records!!!!
(Kind of kidding, but does feel good to say)
September 21st, 2010 at 11:51 am
“Second-year receiver Nick Miller was active for a regular-season game for the first time Sunday. He was deactivated for 15 games last season because of a shin injury, and he spent the final game on the injured-reserve list. However, he was the only active player who didn’t play against the Rams.”
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports-headlines/ci_16128633?nclick_check=1
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Bruce Campbell played?
September 21st, 2010 at 11:52 am
“The Raiders should be favored to win the AFC West and to reach the AFC championship game, if for no other reason than the amount of money they committed to their 53 players this season.
The Raiders are on the hook for $135.2 million, second only to the New York Jets ($135.7) among AFC teams and well ahead of division rivals San Diego ($108 million), Denver ($102.9 million) and Kansas City ($84.5 million).
The Washington Redskins lead the way at $178.2 million, with the Raiders seven spots back. The three other AFC West teams are in the bottom eight.”
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The owner is all in.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:53 am
I believe I saw Campbell blocking on extra points.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
The Oakland Raider Coliseum vibrates , the Silver & Black chant is BBRRUUUCCEE! The HELL’S BELLS in the background and the introduction to Ozzy’s Crazy Train….man I miss that already!!
BBRRUUUCCEE, BBRRUUUCCEE, BBRRUUUCCEE!!!!!!!!!
DONNNGG…., DONNNNNGG…., DONNNNGGGGG!!!!!
AAHHHH, HHAAAAA, HHAAAAAAA , HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:56 am
Myself and 5 others, including the loudest of the bunch my Brooklyn-based Italian wife, will do our best to get a Bruuuuuuuuuce chant going in AZ.
By the time it is late in the 4th quarter, and it is 31-10, the Nation will congregate behind the teams bench and we will get a good Bruuuuuuce one going.
Can’t wait!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:57 am
Niners best 0-2 team in football. lmfao!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:58 am
Niners best 0-2 team in football.
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no love for the Vikings or Cowboys?
September 21st, 2010 at 11:58 am
The Brooklyn Italians…. meeeeeeeengya! Fuhgetaboutit!
September 21st, 2010 at 11:59 am
Niners would smash Minnesota or Dallas if they played today.
September 21st, 2010 at 11:59 am
Rockstar just glad they don’t say it about us.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:07 am
Dakota,
How come drafting Andre Smith didn’t make the list?
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I just wanted a tackle…I was right about that too.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
just glad they don’t say it about us
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Agreed!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I just wanted a tackle…I was right about that too.
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Dakota,
JFB must be pleased with the Henderson/Veldheer rotation at LT
September 21st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Rockstar Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 7:58 am
Raiders might go 0-6 in division games
Chargers are the same. Donks & Chefs got better
Raiders are about equal to last year, 5 wins
Dumb post….Chargers are not the same, Cheifs are a fraud, and the donks how in the hell do you think they got better.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Saints are over-rated, they look a little lost on offense this year. Losing to them at home, was not the moral victory that 9er fans would like to think it is. Their entire offense revolves around Frank Gore, just like the Rams with Steven Jackson. One dimensional teams get popped in the post-season, if they even make it that far.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:04 pm
HB: Chargers crushed JAX to go 1-1, we barely beat the Lambs (by 2)
Broncos crushed Seattle, who crushed SF (which bcz calls the best 0-2 team out there)
Chiefs are 2-0 and beat Sandy Eggo. they are legit
September 21st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Lakers training camp begins in five days!
A classic Phil quote for the occasion: “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”
September 21st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Go bet on them next week then. Niners are going to stomp them. Had to return pick to beat the Browns.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Go MIami HEat!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I just wanted a tackle…I was right about that too.
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RYAN CLADY!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
The worst we will do is .500 in the division.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
LAAAAAKERS!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
It’s all about match ups and adjustments the teams that take advantage of them usually end up in the post season.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Go bet on them next week then
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I don’t bet money, Bells
I do bet fantasy football players though. too bad JFB doesn’t believe in his boy Bruce Gradkowski enough to do the same
September 21st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Broncos got better, yes if losing probowlers at multiple postions makes you better. Try watching a game. Give you that the Broncos played a good game last week.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Well start Castle, sure he is avalable.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
To bad AD dose not beleive in his boy Bruce to start him. Guy is a spark plug
September 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
12:07 [Comment From Raider Robin Raider Robin: ]
Do you think we will beat the cards? I think we will.We have stop the run and cover Larry like blanket. And start Bruce.
Tuesday September 21, 2010 12:07 Raider Robin
12:08 jerrymac: It’s a winnable game, no doubt. And I think Gradkowski will start. I don’t see being able to put the genie back in the bottle at this point. Of course, I never thought they yank Campbell after six quarters, either, so take that for what it’s worth.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I just wanted a tackle…I was right about that too.
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RYAN CLADY!
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Context baby. After the 2007 season everyone thought our o-line was a strength….then Cable Kwame Harrised us and it has all been down hill since!
Once you took the Longs out of the equation there were four basic factions back then: Those who wanted McFadden, those who wanted Dorsey, those who wanted Gholston and those who wanted Ellis. Only those that wanted Ellis have even one leg to stand on right now.
The number of people who claim to have wanted Ryan Clady at #4 (please, no silly trade back scenarios please) seems to have grown AFTER the draft, but very few of them actually can post proof of a comment wherein they actually said that.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
You heard it first…Bruce will START!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
JFB must be pleased with the Henderson/Veldheer rotation at LT
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LOL!!!
Hey, Bruce said that they are playing “tough” like they always do!!
Tough to watch maybe?
September 21st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Man P. Willis is a hell of a LB. About 25 pounds lighter than McLain. Maybe Ro nedds to shed a few pounds.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I just wanted a tackle…I was right about that too.
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Weak!!
Well when we drafted Kimbo Mitchell, I just wanted a Safety too.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
BTW – what happend with those Craptree predictions for last nights game some were making on here yesterday? One catch – 33 yds. Stellar…lol think I’ll stick with DHB thanks…
September 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
what happend with those Craptree predictions for last nights game some were making on here yesterday? One catch – 33 yds. Stellar
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NMD, wishful thinking
Divatree is on my fantasy football team. I’m not a fan of his or the 49ers. I just needed him to come through for me last night and obviously he didn’t
September 21st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
12:29 [Comment From utahraidersfan utahraidersfan: ]
how much was the gameplan changed between Campbell and Grads?
Tuesday September 21, 2010 12:29 utahraidersfan
12:30 jerrymac: Quicker developing plays, it seemed. Campbell seems a bit too deliberate at this point to run those as well as Gradkowski. Tuesday September 21,
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Interesting take from Jerry.
Basically, Jerome Plunkett is too deliberate for the quick short passes anyways.
First play of preseason, was a quick out to DHB, that was very deliberate and almost housed for a pick 6.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
JFB: we all know Jason Campbell struggles against the Dallas Cowboys
to be fair – Bruce didn’t exactly light them up on Thanksgiving, did he ???
September 21st, 2010 at 12:41 pm
to be fair – Bruce didn’t exactly light them up on Thanksgiving, did he ???
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I would like to see Campbell travel on 3 days notice into Dallas.
He got DHB a TD, his only one so far. That’s fairly impressive to me.
But no, he did not light them up. Few teams light up Dallas in Jerry’s new park last year.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Few teams light up Dallas in Jerry’s new park last year.
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venue means nothing these days
players LOVE playing at Oakland just to see the crazy fans talk trash and then shut down like a 7-11 when the Health Inspector comes knockin’
nobody “fears” the black hole. It’s because the Raiders aren’t what they used to be. Guys like Campbell & Gradkowski at QB aren’t going to get us in the playoffs this year and I think fans know that and avoid going to games. why waste the money?
September 21st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I have seen a lot of posts about people wanting proof of another’s post.
Well, the web site I have been pimping on here will have that feature. Every post by a user will be easily found. That user ill have a home page of all his posts, date and time, and under which topic, and if you were to access say a post from poster X way back 6 months ago, you can still bring that thread back up, as well as quote your post.
On this site, you will be able to start your own threads.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:55 pm
No one fears the blackhole cuz its not filled with 69000 rabid fans anymore… its half full and they are moving people down to make it look full!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:55 pm
BRUCE ALMIGHTY!!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Kimbo Mitchell. Lmfao
I would actually like to see MM get some more time. He didn’t play one defensive snap that I saw. Special teams only.
Surely there are questions about his ability to cover. I personally don’t think we’ve seen enough of him to make that assessment. I know Branch has struggled, biting hard on play fakes.
Mitchell is a football player, not just “an athlete”. I am not saying he’s better than what we’re starting, I’m just saying, I’d like to see the guy get a few more snaps.
September 21st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Borderline.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
I love those fans more than they even know.
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I love you too Bruce
September 21st, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Seems like MM34’s playing time has went down dramatically this year, for whatever reason.
Maybe that Andy Slater guy was onto something.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Have a sense of humor would you Mista
September 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
All we need now is another longsnapper controversy…
September 21st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
JFB if you dont know I have a sense of humor by this time..
September 21st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Q: Did Loper secure himself a starting position in place of Carlie, when Gallery returns?
jerrymac: Doubtful. You don’t often see guys just switching sides, left to right.
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Bruce Campbell played LT in college, now at RG.
Langston Walker played LG last year filling in for Gallery, now at RT.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
RR, ask Jerry why he logs in as Fat Kidd and post retarded bullsh!t.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
JFB
Yes sir, MM played rather well late last year, mostly blitzing the Qb. Although he whiffed twice on Roethlisberger, he still was disruptive late. He gave up a TD against Washington on a goal line package, and a couple short receptions against Baltimore.
That being said, I feel he deserver a series or two, just to give Branch a little breather. Branch has been a little slow to react, and maybe fatigue is a part of it.
I know the guy wants to be physical and hit people, and that type of thing is know to fire a defense up. We must give him some time..
How was his coverage during the preseason. I get those games only when replayed on NFL network. By then I already know the result, and won’t usually watch. If they were live I would. I do not miss a minute of the regular season, it costs me too much $$. So, please enlighten me guys, how was MM’s coverage in the preseason, or were the looks limited?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I wouldn’t say you have no sense of humor, but let’s just say your not one of the most light-hearted posters on here.
(BTW, whatever happened to SeymourBush?? Just disappeared of the face of the earth)
September 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
LOL @ Brown.
I’m probably already on Becker’s “watch list” for negative comments about Cable, Gradkowski & McClain …
September 21st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
New England,
I didn’t notice any glaring mistakes by Mitchell (on a 49ers TD, although I don’t believe it was his “area” of the zone, he was wandering around lost).
He did knock the piss out of Forsett in the last preseason game.
Everything with him needs to be downhill. He plays well moving forward, but backpadeling and moving the hips is not his gig.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Another great thing about this site I’m telling you about, is you can immediately edit your post.
Up there I meant to put known, and put know. There is no way to fix that, and not sound like a retard that can’t speak. On the other site, click on edit post, insert the “N” that I missed, hit submit post, done.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
JFB, if your going to profess your lvve for a NFL Qb on a blog expect some kind of feedback, maybe you need to have the sense of humor not me. Im very light hearted on occasions maybe it doesn’t come across that way…
SeyMourBush also uses Just Win and several others I’m sure.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
love*
September 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Mitchell wasnt terrible in coverage, but he wasnt good enough to supplant Branch either. He gave up a hail mary for a TD against the Seahags, but it was called back for holding. I think Mitchell should be play a hybrid LB in our “big nickle”… Stevie Brown is better in coverage so he would be the guy to give Branch a breather
September 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RR, your on the watch list for not being a libtard in addition to the other things you mentioned. Make no mistake about it.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
JFB
I saw the hit. I had read about it, so I youtubed it. When I looked there was one lousy version of it, but I did see it. I would just love to see him occupying the middle of the field or rushing the QB. Remember last year against Jacobs, MM stood that big mo fo up on the goal line. I have no doubt Branch would’ve just bounced off.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
*playing
September 21st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
JFB, on your JC benching 2nd week @ halftime.
Im not going to make any assertions but thats just too coincidental. Do you want to volunteer anything at this time?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Mitchell is an all or nothing player though… he is either going to knock you block off or totally whiff…
September 21st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
For whatever reason, it still seems that Hiram and maybe Steve Brown or more in the plans than MM34, draft status be damned.
Dell said he saw him on the field defensively. If he was out there a lot, I missed it, because I never saw him.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I am not talking about MM starting. I am suggesting that he play a little more than he has. He was on the field in week one, and didn’t make any mistakes. He didn’t make any plays either, but no mistakes. He didn’t see any action outside of ST’s this past Sunday. I think he played one or 2 snaps on defense.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Why can’t you edit your post on this site?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
JFB, on your JC benching 2nd week @ halftime.
Im not going to make any assertions but thats just too coincidental. Do you want to volunteer anything at this time?
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I talk to Goats. I remote-viewed Tom Cable.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I think Mitchell should be play a hybrid LB in our “big nickle”…
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really?
I thought Thomas Howard played pretty well on Sunday (surprise!)
September 21st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
JFB
That is a major problem for me. That is Hi Eugene playing over MM. Brown, I’ve heard nothing but great things about him so, I am all for getting a look at him as well.
Eugene doesn’t do anything. Can’t tackle, can’t cover, and that stiff arm from last year was pathetic. it was more like a b!tch slap. Even Eugene playing over Huff at times last year was killing me. Why do they do this?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
In all seriousness, two things I have been money on as of late with the Raiders, are QB situations and draft pick/plans.
Two things I have been terrible at, RB predictions and roster cuts.
So if I am talking about the QB or the draft, listen closely. If I am talking about the RB or some guy being cut, pay no attention.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RRS
You just don’t likMM. LOL J/k bro……LOL
Yes, TH played very well, even made a nice tackle on a running play.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
My computer is tripping…it won’t let leave this blog!!
Can’t close windows I have open or open any other windows!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
your on the watch list for not being a libtard
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thats a short list on this blog!
I count maybe 5 of us that DIDN’T vote for current Prez Scumbag
September 21st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Don’t like him I meant. I hope you don’t likk him. Edit post icon please.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
You just don’t likMM
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LOL @ NE
yeah man. we’ve had our discussions about the Missle, but I dropped that a while back when you said to give the kid time to prove that he is or isn’t a good safety in coverage
for the most part. I may have had a few comments about Mitch when the rumor hit he was about to be cut to make room for Stevie or Hiram
please forgive!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
NE, wtf are you trying to explain?
After you hit the submit button you cant do anything. Before you submit your free to edit your heart out. Seems pretty simple…
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
CNBC has been rotating in people who asked questions to BO at the Town Hall yesterday. Most of them seem none to impressed.
Especially the black lady who said she was “exhausted” from defending him. She said she wasn’t sure why he started laughing when she said that to him.
Great guy he is!! “Sir I am getting exhausted defending you and my vote for you”
(Cheesy grin, chuckle, yuck-yuck-yuck)
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I hope many of you will at least check this other site out.
The features are light years ahead of this one.
It is not my site either, just for the record.
Like I said, you can edit your post, look up past posts, view all posts by a certain user, go back and view archives of old posts, and threads. Quote another poster’s post in order to respond, with cutting, and pasting. Many, many good features. You are all very knowledgeable guys, and would be welcome on this other site. i will let you know when it’s up and running.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Sorry, had to do it……..
Back to Bruce and Kimbo Mitchell
September 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
really?
I thought Thomas Howard played pretty well on Sunday (surprise!)
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THow played good on Sunday, but I think Mitchell would work in the same roll as a blitzer, and should be at least as good in coverage as howard. I think MM34 needs to see 5-10 snaps a game because big time hits definitely ignite the defense, and if he hits a qb expect a fumble for sure!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Yes but the number of people that will not repeat same mistake twice has risen at least 40%.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
thats a short list on this blog!
I count maybe 5 of us that DIDN’T vote for current Prez Scumbag
September 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Man, Mista and RR should not be allowed to be here at the same time… please stop hating on America!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
99
Exactly what I am talking about dude. You can not edit your post here after it’s been submitted. i thought I was pretty clear about that.
The other site will allow you to edit your post after submitting, whether it’s one minute or 8 days later.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
NewEngland,
Is it going to be a message-board, or is there going to be threads??
We still need Jerry to kick-start the topic occasionally.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
MM34 is nowhere near as fast as Howard or as good in coverage, but Howard can’t tackle aggressively like MM.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Imagine what would have unfolded if they weren’t hand picked guests! BO is a clueless imbecile.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
CNBC has been rotating in people who asked questions to BO at the Town Hall yesterday. Most of them seem none to impressed.
Especially the black lady who said she was “exhausted” from defending him. She said she wasn’t sure why he started laughing when she said that to him.
Great guy he is!! “Sir I am getting exhausted defending you and my vote for you”
(Cheesy grin, chuckle, yuck-yuck-yuck)
September 21st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Exactly. Thjat is why I want to see MM play a little. get his defense fired up with a sack or a big hit. 5-10 snaps would be perfect, closer to 10 though.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
NE, why would you want to edit a post after you sent it?
If you wanna flip flop that bad change your name to tj and just post as the wind blows.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
no, many threads. Threads that you yourself will be able to start.
Wanna post a thread about Branch, go for it.
Grads or Campbell, go for it. You can post your own topics, links, articles, you name it.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
NE, I wont be seeing you on that “other” blog. Id rather not be in a room full of tj’s flip flopping and changing their mind after the facts.
Besides they “love” me to much in here.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm
bcz24 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 9:39 am
“Half the locker room knows what “conundrum” means and feel smug about it. The other half feel they’re being talked down to and are resentful. It’s not a healthy situation.”
……………safe sex is important you should always use a conundrum when having sex it stops the spread of disease. the ribbed ones are good…
September 21st, 2010 at 1:39 pm
111
No wonder why people can’t stand you around here.
you may want to edit your post for many reasons. A misspelled word, something you may have forgotten.
It has nothing to do with flip flopping. How many posts do you see someone make correcting their spelling because they left a letter out, or hit the wrong key?
That is why you would want to edit your post.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Who is trying to flip flop. Flip flop on what you retard? What have I flip flopped on?
Please explain. And by the way mistabrownmoron, you’re not invited, because you’re an idiot. How’s that.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
fat kidd: you are a sick little pervert, aren’t you?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
LOL
September 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
By the way, on the other site, you will be able to edit your posts, fix misspelled words, any puncuation errors, missed keys, or inadvertently hit keys.
However, when you do edit your post, it will say in that post that it was edited, and how many times, and at what time.
So it’s not a flip/flop feature there browneye, it’s to fix any grammatical errors, omissions, and things of that nature. You know, things an edit would be useful for.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Using a conundrum is against Gawd’s plan for us all to be saddled with kids we don’t want.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
please stop hating on America!
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LOL
by hating on Condo, YOU are hating on America!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
NE,
I rather see typos & misspelled words then give people the ability to change their minds as the wind blows.
Furthermore, posters like Fat Runt need spellcheck to get their post corrected.
I dont come in here to make friends.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Brown: fatty, TJ, RMR, Kell & SeyGlenn can all go to new englandraider’s site
please allow him to keep pimpin it!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
NE,
I rather see typos & misspelled words then give people the ability to change their minds as the wind blows.
Furthermore, posters like Fat Runt need spellcheck to get their post corrected.
I dont come in here to make friends.
……………good job on that you have not made any friends in here………
September 21st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
saddled with kids we don’t want.
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just drop them off at the local high school for Steve Alford to pick up!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I only said being able to edit post will encourage flip flopping. I didnt accuse you of anything! And Im the moron here?? LOL
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New Englandraider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Who is trying to flip flop. Flip flop on what you retard? What have I flip flopped on?
Please explain. And by the way mistabrownmoron, you’re not invited, because you’re an idiot. How’s that.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:49 pm
LMAO @ New England not inviting me to a place that I already said I didnt want to go!
Hows that?
Im ok with it.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm
you’re not invited
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NE: is this an exclusive site that requires an invite?
that might help contain the troll population …
September 21st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Fat Mope wont be able to find his way so I think we are stuck with his 5 year old jokes and obsolete copy & paste jobs.
Kell only posts after a loss so we can get rid of him 8 weeks a year.
SeyMourGlenn wont show his mug anywhere unless its an ambiguous handle.
tj, threatened to leave once before and showed back up.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Brown: fatty, TJ, RMR, Kell & SeyGlenn can all go to new englandraider’s site
please allow him to keep pimpin it!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
brown
You’re a moron Just sit behind your screen and act tough. I’m scared. you got me.
Again, genius, it would say you edited your post, with the original time of post and the time of edit. So, you couldn’t post today, I wants Grads to start, and in two weeks change it to Campbell. It would give you away. Like I said, the edit post feature is not for flip flopping. I have about enough of you now. No one here can stand you. I have figured that out in very limited amount of time on the site. You’re a parasitic jerkoff, plain ans=d simple. Good day to u sir
September 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Where is Steve Alford?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Where is Steve Alford?
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best guesses
a. writing a novel on his life story
b. in jail
September 21st, 2010 at 1:55 pm
NE, I can only take your disparaging remarks as compliments given the context, circumstances, and origin of the remarks.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
“Defense of the Realm”
Breaking down the D
The Raiders sometimes erratic and under rated D helped seal the win…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/film_room
Henderson was beasty!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
NE,
At this time I would like to edit my previous post and join your blog.
September 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Nnumdi, were you at the town hall yesterday telling pres purple lips what a great job he is doing bankrupting us and killing the economy ?
September 21st, 2010 at 1:59 pm
NE, Nnamdi21 is pimpin his own site (RNS)
looks like you’ve got competition!
September 21st, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
MM34 is nowhere near as fast as Howard or as good in coverage, but Howard can’t tackle aggressively like MM.
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Howard was good Sunday.
MM has yet to do shazz. Tyvon’s been pretty bad…
September 21st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
RNS is Nnumdi’s site?
No wonder I havent gone there and gave him some “clicks”. I’m probably not invited anyway.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
MM has yet to do shazz
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MM34 = Siddeeq Shabazz ???
JFB, isn’t he playing for the Las Vegas Locomotives?
September 21st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
137. lol!
I also own Yahoo sports since I post there stuff here too occasionally!
Feel much better going into the week with a win.
Wish we could do that more often than not.
Hope we destroy Arizona. They’ve been bad. To lose or squeak by with a win agains them would be a drag.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I’ve said before that I think Howard would make a solid SS.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
the Most Honourable Edward Itt had a dastardly problem. he could not to save his own life, write nor express clearly in a conventional way that was decipherable to others.
but, with the advent of the internet he was able to post his gibberish endlessly without reprisal as there were no rules nor need for comprehension that had to be adhered to.
he received no embarrassment that his verbal goulash was neither intelligent nor insightful,
but it was Ed Itt-ed.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
140. Shabazz!
Wasn’t that late 70’s blacksploitation version of “Shazzam”?
September 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Jason Campbell = HeHateMe
September 21st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Hope we destroy Arizona. They’ve been bad. To lose or squeak by with a win agains them would be a drag.
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30 carries for DMAC. 30 snaps for John Henderson at DT
that should be enough to get he job done on Sunday – despite whoever plays QB
September 21st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
143. Didn’t understand it but it was awesome…
September 21st, 2010 at 2:05 pm
146. Maybe just maybe Bush will take some snaps too. Worried about DMC breaking down. Isn’t that sad?
I frankly wouldn’t play Bush till he was fully healed. No need other than the fact he’s in a contract year.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Peace owt and enjoy the day Nation. Gotta go work on the car get a hair cut and play some COD MOD WAR II with Tyvon and Huffy…
September 21st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Wasn’t that late 70’s blacksploitation version of “Shazzam”?
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all I know is Kazaam joined the Boston Celtics and they’re gonna rip the Lakers a new one this year!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:07 pm
I remain sanguine about Grads, but am not obsequious like Vegas.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Celtics win East over the Miami Sheat?
September 21st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Heat = most wins in the NBA
Celtics = second most wins
Lakers = eighth seed, knocked out in the first round by the Thunder!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
What’s black and brown and looks good on mistabrown? A doberman pinscher. …
September 21st, 2010 at 2:11 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Henderson was beasty!
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Yes he was. Cable and Marshall don’t have the front four in the right positions in my opinion.
The starting front four should be…
Houston/Henderson/Seymour/Kelly.
That’s a top 5 front four out of the entire league.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Arm,
Kelly at DE over ShoNasty?
Hmmmm…
September 21st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Part of me thinks that Campbell needs more time with the offense to make it click. But, then the other part of me seeing him run a couple of botched plays, not going for more, or knowing how to slide tells me were are better without him. Bruce and Boller have looked dependable so far.
Not that I have 4.5 million to spare, but I would keep JC on for this year to see how he rises to the challenges to his abilities, just as Grad and Boller have to their abilities. But, I’d give him a couple more weeks to do so or adios. Then put that money into some insentives to get our O to practice and perform better.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Any Chazerella sightings ????
September 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
1st and 2nd downs: Houston, Henderson, Kelly, Seymour
3rd downs: Houston, Kelly, Seymour, ShoHennessy
3rd down and long: Houston, Kelly, Seymour, Scott
September 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
THE RUE THE DAY THEY HATED ON OR WERE WISHY-WASHY ON GRADKOWSKI LIST:
Mistic1
Priesttj
Dakota
RaiderRockstar
Severeraiderz
Fat Kidd
KoolKell
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams
Raider75
THE SOON TO BE VINDICATED LIST:
Just Fire Baby
LA to TheBay
The Big Banana
Aig-Raiders
ArmChair GM
Kirk
TerrapinRaider
Try Some Reality
Beach
JB
Raider-DEE
Lefty12
IslandRaider
Armond
Braveheartraider
Raiderzmaverick
Bcz24
Weaselbit
Exlaraidersseasonticketholder
R8eray
Plunketthead
4eva
Chris in NY
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You forgot to put JT in there
I was one of the firts to give props to Grads.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Any Chazerella sightings
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Jerry Mac says (live chat) we shouldn’t expect much from him this season. ANY play or production later in the season = gravy
September 21st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Chaise Schilens is reclining in rehab.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Speaking of the front four I think were getting close my wish, a top 7 defense. If we can just get to 2-1 it really changes the landscape for the season. We could go into SD at 2-2 or 3-1. After Arizona we’re gonna have a tough stretch with HOU, SD, and SF.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Speaking of the front four I think were getting close my wish, a top 7 defense.
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we’re still 29th in run defense bro
getting much better with John Henderson in there though!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:25 pm
all I know is Kazaam joined the Boston Celtics and they’re gonna rip the Lakers a new one this year!
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Wishful thinking.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:25 pm
mama said, “please don’t raise your schilens to be chaisin’ no IR”.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
MistaBrown is the manager of the a..hole store.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
M: that was painful man
September 21st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
week 1 – CJ28 runs past an obviously-held Seymour for 76 yds and a TD.
week 2 – CJ28 runs for an 85 yd TD against Pitt that is called back on a holding call.
the song remains the same in Zeebaland.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:29 pm
MistaBr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Nnumdi, were you at the town hall yesterday telling pres purple lips what a great job he is doing bankrupting us and killing the economy ?
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Read a newspaper. Housing sales are up 11%.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Read a newspaper. Housing sales are up 11%
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that explains where Kell is!
We all thought he just didn’t show up to complain about Al Davis after wins ???
September 21st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm
1st and 2nd downs: Houston, Henderson, Kelly, Seymour
3rd downs: Houston, Kelly, Seymour, ShoHennessy
3rd down and long: Houston, Kelly, Seymour, Scott
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Houston/Henderson/Kelly/Seymour sounds real good to me as well.
Bottom line is Henderson needs to start, and either Kelly or Seymour should play end.
That stops the run.
Several of us, including me and Brien have been preaching that sermon from the minute we picked up Henderson.
Playing Seymour and Kelly as the two D tackles on first and second down, does NOT stop the run.
Big John Hendu = Stop the Run.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Mistabrown bought a new umbrella then cut a hole in it so he can see when it stops raining!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Yeah the run d scares me ( Im on record), but with the list of running backs we see this season, I don’t see it getting to top 15.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Rockstar,
the Nation has so long been grasping at any glimmer of anything positive that they are ready to anoint Bruce as King of the World and McF as his saviour sidekick. that same grasping onto any lifeline had people wishing that Chaz was an undiscovered Larry Fitzgerald.
none of the three are as they may have appeared to the starving masses, but a bowl of rice is better than a poke in the eye.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Jason Campbell should start on Sunday against the Cardinals.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Confucius say bowl of rice is better than a poke in the eye
September 21st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Cards running back is averaging 7 yards per carry but has two fumbles already.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Bring back Tom Flores.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:39 pm
a bowl of rice is better than a poke in the eye.
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hey fatty!
looks like you’re not the only philosopher in here!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Did anyone else that watched the Niner/Saints game last night find it eerily reminiscent of last years Monday Night Home opener that we played against San Diego?
Beat up the other team and dominate them for the majority of the game, but still end up with a loss.
That’s why I make no apologies for wins in this league, no matter how they come. An ugly win is still a win.
I’ll take an ugly win instead of a flashy loss any day of the week.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Jason Campbell should start on Sunday against the Cardinals.
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RF12, why ???
September 21st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Is Gradkowski in the hall of fame yet lol….j/k. May the coaching staff make the right decision and get us a win, whoever it may be. 2nd round pick has to be OL, 3rd rounder on a QB, maybe the kid from Houston will be available. Keenum i think is his name, but if Mallett somehow falls to the second we are looking at our starter.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Hope Kell makes enough money he’ll feel good enough to buy season tix. We need more butts in the seats. Especially if can get a win against Arizona. I’m still tryna think of a way we can shut down Houston.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Armchair,
good debating with you last night
September 21st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
They should give him one more chance. If he sucks again then start Bruce for the rest of the season.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Arm,
Drew Brees has faced some pretty awful secondaries (but good run defenses) the first 2 weeks of the season … Vikings & 49ers
491 yards & 3 TD’s combined in those games (not earth shattering #’s which surprises me) but the Saints are still 2-0
September 21st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
SevereRaiderz, glad to see you here. Hopefully you’re in a better mood. So, your reason that we should start Campbell is that we can just bench him if he plays bad? Well, wouldn’t that apply to everyone? Couldn’t we just start a cheerleaders, and bench her if she played bad? Is there any other reason you have to start Campbell? Like, I dunno, by listing any examples as to how he’s better than Gradkowski? Is that just it? Play him and yank him if he does bad?
September 21st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Hightower running isn’t the problem. It’s generally with him coming out of the backfield. I know cuz he was on my fantasy team last year. Beanie is the type o back that has caused us problems in the past. Explosive and powerful.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Raiders are ranked 23rd in 3rd down conversion AND 4th down conversion.
But they are ranked 5th in total 1st downs.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
2nd round pick has to be OL, 3rd rounder on a QB
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Raiders are 1-1 (tied with the donks & dolts) and it’s time to talk draft already ???
September 21st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
# raiderfan12 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Bring back Tom Flores.
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Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the old hindsight strategy is probably what’s been holding us back in the past 7 years?
We go with something new with Gruden, we’re in the AFC championship 3 years later.
We try something new with Gruden, and our win total increases 100% from the previous season.
Yet, we hire Shell, to go back to the past…look what happens.
We retain Cable, under the assumption that he’s “like Madden”, and look what happens.
Now we should bring back Flores? YIKES.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Only one positve can come from starting grads over the enxt few weeks. He will be exposed for who he really is. A very good number 2 tha can surprise a team or two and maybe steal a win or two be fore d coordinators game plan against him. This will finally kill all of the bruce for president garbage on this board.
By the way if you want to llok to the draft for a qb next year, go with jerod Johnson out of texas a&m.
6 foot 6 235 lbs of lean muscle can throw it a mile, with acuracy and touch and runs like the wind. Also plays a pro style offense under former nfl head coach and pass happy qb friendly o coordinator mike sherman. But im pretty sure most people wont like him on this board, even though thay havent watched him play.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
# raiderfan12 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Bring back Tom Flores.
………………
Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the old hindsight strategy is probably what’s been holding us back in the past 7 years?
We go with something new with Gruden, we’re in the AFC championship 3 years later.
We try something new with Kiffin, and our win total increases 100% from the previous season.
Yet, we hire Shell, to go back to the past…look what happens.
We retain Cable, under the assumption that he’s “like Madden”, and look what happens.
Now we should bring back Flores? YIKES.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:48 pm
We retain Cable, under the assumption that he’s “like Madden”
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who in the world said that ???
September 21st, 2010 at 2:50 pm
This will finally kill all of the bruce for president garbage on this board.
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couldn’t be any worse than Prez BO! *puke*
Bruce or Jason for President !!!
September 21st, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Rockstar, I’m pretty sure you were one of the people comparing Cable to Madden. If you want to deny it now, that’s fine.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
we’ll probably draft 3 DB’s in April because Huff, Routt, CJ37 & Hiram Eugene are all in the final year of thier contracts
of course we could always replace Huff & Eugene with Stevie B & Boyd (Mitchell starts next to Branch)
then re-sign CJ & Stanford since nobody else will want them …
September 21st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I’m pretty sure you were one of the people comparing Cable to Madden.
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bwahahahahahaha!
I’m pretty sure you had a man crush on Tim Tebow prior to the draft, too.
If you want to deny it now, that’s fine.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Another problem that must be looked into is the play of our safties. Branch is solid but seems to have slipped, missing tackles and blowing coverages. Huff played well yesterday but has trouble stringing good games together. Im waiting to see mm34 get some run, steveie brown as well. Brown is a ball hawk at single high, and mm34 is a destroyer, exactly what our strong saftey is supposed to look like. Reminds me of eddie anderson.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Rockstar, you’re now admitting you were one of the people who compared Cable to Madden? Why did you deny it just a minute ago?
Anyway, you weren’t alone. A ton of you guys were. And that’s been the problem in Oakland, hindsight. The Oakland Raiders need to move into the future, and stop trying to recreate what happened in the past. The league is always changing. You have to change with it.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
mm34 is a destroyer, exactly what our strong saftey is supposed to look like. Reminds me of eddie anderson.
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more like Derrick Gibson
September 21st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
SevereRaiderz, glad to see you here. Hopefully you’re in a better mood. So, your reason that we should start Campbell is that we can just bench him if he plays bad? Well, wouldn’t that apply to everyone? Couldn’t we just start a cheerleaders, and bench her if she played bad? Is there any other reason you have to start Campbell? Like, I dunno, by listing any examples as to how he’s better than Gradkowski? Is that just it? Play him and yank him if he does bad?
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No i would start Campbell because he has shown in the past that he can play at a higher level than Bruce can. Halfway through his 08-09 season he was having a great season. His team was 6-2 and he was in the top 5 in several stastical categories. Then the injury bug hit and he lost severalOL and Portis and the team went 2-6 down the stretch. Jasons best is better than Bruces best IMO and he doesnt have nearly the injury history. Bruce is a scrappy guy with high energy and a heart too big for his chest, but all that doesnt make up for a lack of raw physical tools and talent.
September 21st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
But if it came down to starting you or a cheerleader…id go with the cheerleader. im sure she has bigger balls.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
you’re now admitting you were one of the people who compared Cable to Madden? Why did you deny it just a minute ago?
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No. quit making stuff up man
you’re just mad that your boy Gruden talked up and mentored Tebow after your embarrassing “coat hanger” comment and that he ended up being a 1st rounder
September 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
SevereRaiderz, how far in the past do you want to go back? Should current performance weigh into the decision at all? If it’s all about how someone performed in the past, couldn’t we suit Jim Plunkett up? Maybe Stabler? Those guys have PROVEN, mind you, PROVEN that they could get it done in the past, just as Campbell has. If we’re going to just throw out CURRENT performance, and go with what guys were capable of in the past, why not go with a legend like Stabler or Plunkett? Why Jason Campbell?
September 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
5pm in Podunk. until tomorrow ladies – when we find out Jason Campbell is starting
September 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Repost:
what would have happened if we never gave Bruce that chance and yanked him after he took 2 sacks and lost a fumble against the jets? or after he threw 2 picks in 9 pass attempts against KC? or after he only threw for 183 yards against cincy with 2 tds, but throwing another int and losing another fumble? Or even worse what if we annointed Russell the starter after his comeback in Denver???
September 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
What was my “coat hanger” comment? I forgot. It sounds funny. Especially if it involves Tebow and his wild mother.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
SevereRaiderz, how far in the past do you want to go back? Should current performance weigh into the decision at all? If it’s all about how someone performed in the past, couldn’t we suit Jim Plunkett up? Maybe Stabler? Those guys have PROVEN, mind you, PROVEN that they could get it done in the past, just as Campbell has. If we’re going to just throw out CURRENT performance, and go with what guys were capable of in the past, why not go with a legend like Stabler or Plunkett? Why Jason Campbell?
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We can go way back like to when you said you would wear a Glenn Dorsey jersey to every home game or somethin stupid like that. Two seasons ago isn’t that long and last year we can hardly judge becaue he was without many of his starting offensive line and his starting RB. BJH’s last ok season was two years ago, he had a average camp, and and an average week one but made a difference this past week.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
OK, SevereRaiderz, I see what you’re saying. So, how many more victories does Bruce has to steer us to, then? He’s only been doing it for two years now, one of them against Pittsburgh. When will you think he’s proven himself? After cleaning up messes made by Al’s bomb throwers and winning games for 5 years? 6? How many saves does he need before he earns the starting spot? Again, he’s been doing it for 2 years now. So how long? Give me a number.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Rockstar, Tebow’s an overachieving fetus. Nothing more.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
you know, I hope Campbell has a great game this week, while the meatheads in here keep banging on the guy after the game Id love to see all of you eat your words. While all in here have read cables own words that the play calling was different with gradkowski with the shorter throws, why couldnt he do the same thing with campbell?……the o line hasnt given campbell any time to throw the ball and then again if the coaches would understand that you cant expect to get ANYTHING deep if your not beating them short, and thats what the differnce between the halfs. Campbell in the game hes in the 5-7 step drop looking to go deep with them post and go routes that takes alot of time to develop all the dbs have to do is play soft in turn Campbell holds on to the ball and he looks bad….the put in Bruce he gets the short routs since the dbs have been playing soft the entire 1st half so now Bruce looks like the hero….. and for the guy banging on campbell for throwing the ball in the ground on a screen pass, I reckon that Bruce did the same damn thing so check that, Im happy the raiders won but all this Campbell bashing is rediculous
September 21st, 2010 at 3:09 pm
He has only won us 2 games as a starter and 3 if you count last week….why so much faith in him???
September 21st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Dirty Bath Water,
By accusing people of rooting for Campbell to lose, you in essence admit that you root for Bruce to lose. You’re the one sinking to that level, not us. We just want the best QB to play. You have another agenda. What is it? I don’t know. I have my speculations, considering how Campbell got here, the timing of it, etc. But anyhow, the Campbell supporters are the ones playing politics. They’re your Raider fans who would root against the team in a heart beat if winning meant Gradkowski establishing himself and the team as a winner.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:14 pm
SevereRaiderz, I’m factoring in the games that Gradkowski didn’t start, as well. I’m factoring in his entire performance, as a whole, and the fact that he’s played far better than any starter we’ve had, since he’s been here, and right up to this day. My “faith” in him is that he should be our starter. I have “faith” that he’s the best QB on our roster, and this faith is based on factual data, so it’s really not even faith. Basically, I can see right before my eyes that Bruce is better. You can’t. You’re the one who needs “faith” to convince yourself that Campbell is better than Bruce. You need “faith” to convince yourself of things that you just can’t see in real life. Not me.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
OK, SevereRaiderz, I see what you’re saying. So, how many more victories does Bruce has to steer us to, then? He’s only been doing it for two years now, one of them against Pittsburgh. When will you think he’s proven himself? After cleaning up messes made by Al’s bomb throwers and winning games for 5 years? 6? How many saves does he need before he earns the starting spot? Again, he’s been doing it for 2 years now. So how long? Give me a number.
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When he proves he can lead the team to victory on a weekly basis with the other team gameplanning for him and having significant game tape on him, then i will say he is our guy. He has won only 3 games for us and 2 as a starter. Are you already drinking the Kool-aid that you accuse others of drinking when you criticize Davis??? Is it because your boy Gruden drafted him, maybe we should bring back Tui as well, now that guy has heart and he can scramble. Only player in NCAA history to throw for 300 and rush for 200, sounds like a player to me.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Armchair,
good debating with you last night
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It’s all good Severe. You’re my brother and I mean that. All of us that come in here and bleed the silver and black are brothers. Just like any family, we don’t always agree or get along, but in the end, when it comes to football, we’re family.
Madden Raider you hear that?
You’re my brother too. Even though we seldom agree.lol
September 21st, 2010 at 3:21 pm
the o line hasnt given campbell any time to throw the ball
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LOL…and Grads has had time to throw the ball? Go back and watch the game, then comment. Pay close attention on 3rd and 7 with 3 minutes left to go and our offense needing a first. How long did Grads have to get rid of it when the blitzing defender came shooting up the middle untouched? Yet he delivered a perfect ball before Murphy even made his cut. First Down! Raiders offense keep the ball. When have you known our offense to keep the ball when needed most at the end of the game to ICE it? Campbell would have gotten sacked, GUARANTEED and you’d be in here whining about the O-line. Please..
September 21st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
When he proves he can lead the team to victory on a weekly basis with the other team gameplanning for him and having significant game tape on him, then i will say he is our guy.
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LOL…And how do you suppose he get the chance to do that when you want him on the bench?
September 21st, 2010 at 3:25 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:16 pm
When he proves he can lead the team to victory on a weekly basis with the other team gameplanning for him and having significant game tape on him,
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Is Campbell proving that right now?
September 21st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:14 pm
SevereRaiderz, I’m factoring in the games that Gradkowski didn’t start, as well. I’m factoring in his entire performance, as a whole, and the fact that he’s played far better than any starter we’ve had, since he’s been here, and right up to this day. My “faith” in him is that he should be our starter. I have “faith” that he’s the best QB on our roster, and this faith is based on factual data, so it’s really not even faith. Basically, I can see right before my eyes that Bruce is better. You can’t. You’re the one who needs “faith” to convince yourself that Campbell is better than Bruce. You need “faith” to convince yourself of things that you just can’t see in real life. Not me.
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as a raider in games that he has thrown at least 9 passes he is 3-4. His stats in those games are 7 tds, 4 ints, 11 sacks taken, 5 fumbles, 3 lost. He has thrown for over 200 yards twice for us and has yet to win back to back games, so you have “faith” that he will do something that he has never done in a Raider uniform is what you are telling. damn RMR for some that does this ALL DAY you sure do suck at it.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Slammer McClain makes a tackle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8esNW2gBEI
September 21st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Campbell has had short stints of success in Washington. He closed the ‘07 season well, and looked good in early ‘08. Then fell apart. It looks like those people game planning against Campbell have his number. So, yes, Campbell proved he can win as an established starter, for a short period of time. What’s also proven is that he hasn’t done crap since early ‘08, and that he just flat out tanked in ‘09. It is PROVEN, actually, that this is a QB on the down side of his career. He has proven that he HAS WON in the past, but what he’s also proven is that he CAN’T WIN NOW! And this is proven by his inability to lead his team to victories in most of ‘08 and ALL of last year.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Repost:
what would have happened if we never gave Bruce that chance and yanked him after he took 2 sacks and lost a fumble against the jets? or after he threw 2 picks in 9 pass attempts against KC? or after he only threw for 183 yards against cincy with 2 tds, but throwing another int and losing another fumble? Or even worse what if we annointed Russell the starter after his comeback in Denver???
=======================================================This is perfect. This shows the double standard that Campbell is up against. Campbell has proven that in this leauge he can be a very good qb, bruce has proven he can be a scrub. Campbell was on his way to a possible probowl season before the foreskins imploded last year. He only needs time to grow into his role on this team.
Im sure he has lost all respect for cable, after that dispicable act of cowardice.
Also one reason people bash Campbell is because of his conservative approach. BEING CONSERVATIV IS WHY HE HAS MORE TDS THAN INTS IN HIS CAREER!!! THE QB SHOULDNT TAKE RECKLESS CHANCES WITH THE FOOTBALL WITH THE GOAL OF FIRING UP THE TEAM! THE QB MUST MANAGE THE GAME AND PROTECT THE BALL!!! WHEN YOU HAVE A TEAM WITH ENOUGH TALENT AROUND YOU YOU DONT HAVE TO TAKE THOSE KIND OF CHANCES. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A GUY CHECK DOWN AND THROW IT AWAY THAN TURN IT OVER BECAUSE HE IS A GUN SLINGER!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
You have to pull up an awful of numbers there (mostly irrelevant numbers, at that), to make the argument that Bruce is a lousy QB. It’s going to be a tough sell just 2 days after Bruce led us to a comeback victory…again.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
You have to pull up an awful lot of numbers there (mostly irrelevant numbers, at that), to make the argument that Bruce is a lousy QB. It’s going to be a tough sell just 2 days after Bruce led us to a comeback victory…again.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:34 pm
SevereRaiderz, as long as Gradkowski is on the roster, I’m cool with it. He can just come in and keep cleaning up Campbell’s messes. It’s a tough way to win, but as long as Cable can keep getting Gradkowski in there by half time, we should win 9 games.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Eagles name Vick starter after all
September 21st, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Looks like the Eagles are focusing on what’s best for the team and what gives them the best chance of winning. I wish some other NFL teams would take notes…
September 21st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:29 pm
severeraiderz Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Repost:
what would have happened if we never gave Bruce that chance and yanked him after he took 2 sacks and lost a fumble against the jets? or after he threw 2 picks in 9 pass attempts against KC? or after he only threw for 183 yards against cincy with 2 tds, but throwing another int and losing another fumble? Or even worse what if we annointed Russell the starter after his comeback in Denver???
=======================================================This is perfect. This shows the double standard that Campbell is up against. Campbell has proven that in this leauge he can be a very good qb, bruce has proven he can be a scrub. Campbell was on his way to a possible probowl season before the foreskins imploded last year. He only needs time to grow into his role on this team.
Im sure he has lost all respect for cable, after that dispicable act of cowardice.
Also one reason people bash Campbell is because of his conservative approach. BEING CONSERVATIV IS WHY HE HAS MORE TDS THAN INTS IN HIS CAREER!!! THE QB SHOULDNT TAKE RECKLESS CHANCES WITH THE FOOTBALL WITH THE GOAL OF FIRING UP THE TEAM! THE QB MUST MANAGE THE GAME AND PROTECT THE BALL!!! WHEN YOU HAVE A TEAM WITH ENOUGH TALENT AROUND YOU YOU DONT HAVE TO TAKE THOSE KIND OF CHANCES. I WOULD RATHER HAVE A GUY CHECK DOWN AND THROW IT AWAY THAN TURN IT OVER BECAUSE HE IS A GUN SLINGER!!!!
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Gradkowski has the kind of approach where he likes to take risks and thats not always bad. He threw one pick sunday and had two other near picks, one of those being in the red zone and having it dropped by the defender. None of his supporters have responded to that post because they can’t their reasoning when confronted with facts.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Michael Vick is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He’s my dawg!
September 21st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
But for Lane Kiffin, the boyish coach with the golden interview skills, the man who believes he wields a whistle on campus fields like Picasso moved a paintbrush on canvas, the failure to examine all the angles in his move to USC must be crushing right now. If everything Midas touched turned to gold, Lane Kiffin has to be looking at his head-coaching hands, the same hands that left behind a steaming wreck in both Oakland and Tennessee, and wondering to himself: Why does everything I touch turn to crap?
September 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Wow. Look how many words it takes Mistic and Severe to sell us on the idea that Bruce Gradkowski is a bad QB. Anyone going to read that whopper? I’m going to pass. Poor guys. Their agenda is to sell us on the flaws of a QB two days after he leads a team to victory! lol. Wow.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Campbell I’m told by Redskin fans is doing what he did in DC …… Indecisive and can’t read the defense
September 21st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
i just cant believe how as fans, even when we win, we lose cause some of yall have to B1TCH about one thing or another.
I FAQHIN HATE RAIDER HATING RAIDER FANS!
September 21st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:32 pm
You have to pull up an awful lot of numbers there (mostly irrelevant numbers, at that), to make the argument that Bruce is a lousy QB. It’s going to be a tough sell just 2 days after Bruce led us to a comeback victory…again.
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He has only led one comeback victory where he wasn’t the starting QB and those numbers are his stats as a raider, hardly a lot. Im just presenting you with the facts and you obviously have no argument to them as displayed by your irrelevent post above that merely comments on, but fails to respond to my argument. Sad.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:43 pm
STR, people are upset because the QB that led us to victory…AGAIN…is probably going to be benched for another mediocre starter, again.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Hank Basket anyone ???? Released by Buffalo, poor Kendra
September 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
WHO IS BRUCE GRADKOWSKI ????
VS. NY JETS 10-19 2 SACKS 1 LOST FUMBLE NO TDS FINAL 38-0 LOSS
VS. BUNGLES 17-34-183 2 TD 1INT 1 FUMBLE LOST
VS. COWGIRLS 18-35-200 1TD 3 SACKS 1 FUMBLE LOST FINAL
24-7 ( THE TD CAME IN GARBAGE TIME)
The steeler game was his best game as a pro, but I dont think he can be that guy every sunday, sometimes the sun even shines on a dogs ass.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
SevereRaiderz, it’s all good. Let Campbell start. And we’ll just keep bringing Gradkowsk in at half time to save him. Sort of like baseball. We’ll platoon our quarterbacks by having Campbell out there trying to work that old vertical game, scrambling around, throwing the ball god knows where…then at half time we’ll bring in Gradkowski. Hopefully we won’t be down by too much at half. It’s not the smartest way to approach a season, but for some reason, Campbell just has to get his playing time. So fair enough. First half Campbell, second half Gradkowski. As long as we get Gradkowski in there by half time, we should be a 9 win team. Just so long as Campbell doesn’t really dig us into a hole.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Wow. Look how many words it takes Mistic and Severe to sell us on the idea that Bruce Gradkowski is a bad QB. Anyone going to read that whopper? I’m going to pass. Poor guys. Their agenda is to sell us on the flaws of a QB two days after he leads a team to victory! lol. Wow.
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Like you sold us on the flaws of Al Davis during and after one of the best drafts this team has had in a decade. This is what you have to resort to??? Trying to rally people to your cause because you need backup, pretty pathetic. Newsflash: you have no friends here, no you is going to play Capt. Save-a-ho3 for u.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Campbell I’m told by Redskin fans is doing what he did in DC …… Indecisive and can’t read the defense
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true.
i have two buddies that are redskin fans and the only thing they told me when they heard of the campbell pick up was “good luck, russell was a rookie that couldnt read defenses and now you have a veteran that still cant…good luck”
September 21st, 2010 at 3:47 pm
With the current OL, we’re better off with Bruce.
Campbell takes too long to read the defence and has a slow release.
When we went for it on 4th and inches, Cable had to try and call a time out because Campbell didn’t realize that the offense was in the wrong formation.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“…we all have the same goal and that’s to win and win a championship this year” I love ya Bruce, but lets not get carried away, we barely beat the Rams after getting dismanteled by the Titans in 2 quarters…Gotta love the optimism though!
September 21st, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Larry Johnson Released by Redskins!!
Great, you know who has had a hard on for this guy for a long time.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:49 pm
That was Jason Campbell? I though it was Aaron Brooks! my bad…
September 21st, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Campbell I’m told by Redskin fans is doing what he did in DC …… Indecisive and can’t read the defense
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I was actually told different, i was told that he is a good QB not a great QB and was often held back by the constant changes in offensive coords and the major change in offensive philosophy when Zorn replaced Gibbs. I was told he won’t turn the ball over, he will make good decisions, and he utilizes his TE and backs in the passing. I was warned about him checking down though.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:51 pm
The facts are that JC has 6 sacks in 6 quarters behind this OLine and Grads has 0 sacks in 2 quarters.
The facts are that small armed Grads has a 7.36 yards per attempt average as compared to cannon armed JC’s 5.14 average.
The facts are that JC has 1 TD in 6 quarters and Grads has 1 TD in 2 quarters.
The facts are that JC averages 44.5 yards passing per quarter and Grads averages 81, almost double.
The facts are that Grads led this team to a come from behind victory after the stink spread by a JC-led offense.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:51 pm
He threw one pick sunday and had two other near picks, one of those being in the red zone and having it dropped by the defender. None of his supporters have responded to that post because they can’t their reasoning when confronted with facts.
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BS!
I responded to that.
You forgot to mention the dropped pick from Campbell on that first drive.
The pick Grads almost threw in the red zone after his QB sneak hit the DB in the chest because he couldn’t get his arms up fast enough due to him holding DHB. Should’ve been a flag.
The other “almost” pick was when his arm was hit and the ball was batted down. The play where the ref DID throw the flag for a personal foul on the defender.
Unlike the completely errant throws by JC that were and almost were picks.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:51 pm
SevereRaiderz, why are you still fighting? I thought we agreed. Campbell should start, and if he fails, put Gradkowski in. I think that system will work. When Campbell fails week after week, throwing balls all over the place, looking confused, delay of game penalties, the whole 9, we just put Gradkowki in at half time. As long as Gradkowski gets into the game by half time, we have a chance of winning 9 games this year.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
WHO IS BRUCE GRADKOWSKI ????
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Bruce Gradkowski is 1-0 this season.
Campbell is 0-1 this season.
Career wise Gradkowski is .500 at 2-2
Gradkowski wins games and can do so in hostile environments.
That’s who he is.
We know much more about him than we do about Campbell at this point.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Gradkowski has to play it fast and loose, becuase he doesnt have the goods to play it any other way. He is too short to see over the line of scrimage, so he has to leave the pocket. he is not strong enough to get the ball deep, so he has to utilize a quick pasing scheme. Once defensive coordiantors have film on him running this years raider offense he is finished. Back qb’s look good alot of times becuase the defense game planned for some one else.
Also some of you hypocrates are harping on Campbells short comings sunday, but totaly ignore grads screw ups!!!!! He was very close to having 3-4 balls intercepted in 1 half of football!!!! Campbell was not nearly as bad as that!! Be honest.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Michael Vick is replacing Kevin Kolb next week as the starter.
Kerry Collins replaced Vince Young last week.
Bruce Gradkowski should replace Jason campbell next week as the starting QB.
Nuff Said.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:55 pm
RAIDER NATION BABY!
a win is a win, doesnt matter if it was against the rams or colts. it motivates and gets things going by letting our players know they can win.
it gets worse before it gets better and we all know we’ve had the worst. only place to go is up.
i say 6-3 and maybe even 7-2 going into the bye week.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Mistic, it’s cool. I’m on board, man. You guys have sold me on it. Campbell is a far better QB than Gradkowski. Gradkowski is just an overachieving scrub. But, for some reason, that little sucker just gives us a spark and we almost always play better when he’s in the lineup. So, here’s what we do. We start Campbell. And when Campbell inevitably starts playing horribly, as he has since he’s been here, we make sure to get Bruce in by half time, and this gives us a chance of winning. Makes sense to me. We do the old Campbell/vertical game experiment thing in the first half, then get down to serious football in the second half. A long as we get Grads in there by half time, we could be a 9 win team.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:57 pm
J Hill Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:51 pm
He threw one pick sunday and had two other near picks, one of those being in the red zone and having it dropped by the defender. None of his supporters have responded to that post because they can’t their reasoning when confronted with facts.
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BS!
I responded to that.
You forgot to mention the dropped pick from Campbell on that first drive.
The pick Grads almost threw in the red zone after his QB sneak hit the DB in the chest because he couldn’t get his arms up fast enough due to him holding DHB. Should’ve been a flag.
The other “almost” pick was when his arm was hit and the ball was batted down. The play where the ref DID throw the flag for a personal foul on the defender.
Unlike the completely errant throws by JC that were and almost were picks.
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It doesnt matter anyway, all that matters is if the pick is made. Just using that as an example of how bruce is willing to take more risk, usually because he has to due to his lack of raw physical tools. Not a bad thing but it could get us burned and if a ball is tipped and picked it counts as an int jus the same as it would if a wr tipped it and it was picked.
September 21st, 2010 at 3:57 pm
He’s too short, he has no arm, he runs funny, he’s etc….
As long as he keeps winning games, who cares?
September 21st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I’d like to see Mike Vick’s leg gnawed off.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
mistic1 …Gannon has to play it fast and loose, becuase he doesnt have the goods to play it any other way. He is too short to see over the line of scrimage, so he has to leave the pocket. he is not strong enough to get the ball deep, so he has to utilize a quick pasing scheme. Once defensive coordiantors have film on him running this years raider offense he is finished. Back qb’s look good alot of times becuase the defense game planned for some one else.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
It doesnt matter anyway,
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It doesn’t matter ????
I think it absolutely matters.
If you look at everything in CONTEXT, I’d take the guy who isn’t throwing errant passes.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
WHO IS BRUCE GRADKOWSKI ????
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Bruce Gradkowski is 1-0 this season.
Campbell is 0-1 this season.
Career wise Gradkowski is .500 at 2-2
Gradkowski wins games and can do so in hostile environments.
That’s who he is.
We know much more about him than we do about Campbell at this point.
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True, but the point is to find out about your starter before you bench him. We don’t know what JC is and really know very little about grads. Though we do have a lot more knowledge on the latter
September 21st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
I think Campbell gets the nod but he will be on a short leash. cable has demonstrated that he’s not afraid to yank him. Also take the seven step drop out of the playbook and give him some more roll outs. Get a little more creative. Oh, and let’s see a wildcat with Mcfadden and Bush now and then.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
how can people still call for tyrone plunkett?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
KK:
Me and my dead Golden Retriever are with you on that.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I’d like to see Mike Vick’s leg gnawed off.
…………………….mike vick has changed he still fights his dogs but no longer will place bets on them!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I’d like to see Mike Vick’s leg gnawed off.
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Why?
He did something that was basically accepted by Americans until he got busted for it.
I don’t think he should have done a day in jail.
Granted, they should have rescued his dogs, and he should be banned from going near dogs again. But dog fighting was not even on the radar, even though everyone knew it existed, until Vick was found to have been involved with it.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
J Hill Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
It doesnt matter anyway,
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It doesn’t matter ????
I think it absolutely matters.
If you look at everything in CONTEXT, I’d take the guy who isn’t throwing errant passes.
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so a ball hitting a DB in the chest isnt an errant pass, the hold on DHb doesntmatter if the refs have been letting those types of plays go all game long. If the ball is picked we likely lose, as i said and int is an int.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
KK:
Me and my dead Golden Retriever are with you on that.
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I saw that on PFT, was that you?
I just lost my Akita btw.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
At this point, I see no reason to throw the support behind Campbell. What has he done to earn it?
In fact, I’d argue that he has done a few things to deserve to be benched, starting with that bahlless slide 2yds short of the 1st marker last week.
Not getting the WRs involved AT ALL last week was sad. Especially when the backup can come in under the SAME cirumstances and go 10-16 to those guys.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I was reading this article where someone from one of those animal activist organizations was talking about how when Vick got busted, they got a ton of new membership, supporters, donations, etc. About a year later? Nothing. The members that had signed on when Vick got busted stopped sending in money, they stopped answering their phones, etc. You tell me.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
mistic1 …Gannon has to play it fast and loose, becuase he doesnt have the goods to play it any other way. He is too short to see over the line of scrimage, so he has to leave the pocket. he is not strong enough to get the ball deep, so he has to utilize a quick pasing scheme. Once defensive coordiantors have film on him running this years raider offense he is finished. Back qb’s look good alot of times becuase the defense game planned for some one else.
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Gannon was 6′3″ or 6′4″ bruce is 5′11″
September 21st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
No, that wasn’t me.
If Vick won’t play well this week maybe they’ll choke him to death.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
so a ball hitting a DB in the chest isnt an errant pass,
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You know it’s not.
If you saw the play, Grads was ANTICIPATING where DHB was going to be. Had he not been held ILLEGALLY, it would have been a TD.
The ball that Campbell threw on that first drive hit the DBs in the HANDS. He threw it right to him as oppossed to tossing it over the DB to an open DHB!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
bruce is 5′11″
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LOL!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:08 pm
I think D coordinators have seen film on Campbell and you see the results
September 21st, 2010 at 4:09 pm
You know, Grads wouldn’t be the first qb with average skils who over acheives and inspires his teamates to do the same. It’s not all about the physical skill set. The NFL graveyard is full of guys that can chuck it 80 yards (see Jamarcus Russel). It’s about the intanigables: like grit, determination and fearlessness. Fact is, the team just plays harder for the guy.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
If Vick doesn’t play well this weekend, maybe they could set him on fire.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The most hilarious irony of the Michael Vick hysteria:
People being angry at him for abusing animals while eating meat.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:11 pm
The most important thing to me is with Gradowski in there, DHB and DMac looked l ike top 5 picks!
Not only that, his mobility has to be accounted for.
That’s a lot of things for the D Coordinator to game plan for.
PLUS …
I like the way Gradowski interacts with the coaches!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Comment From JamesJames: ]
Campbell is way too conservative. He doesn’t improvise much besides scrambling. I guarantee you he would have thrown the ball away on the play where Bruce found Murphy in the endzone.
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i truly believe this statement. anyone else?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Campbell has shown NO evidence of being a playmaker.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
I buy it…
For some players the game slows down for them. Campbell slows down for the game.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
10 catches for DHB and Murphy with Grads. 2 with JC.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
@ Armchair & all other posters bungi jumping off gradkowskis balls!!!!
lets compare
Grads: 2006-to present 290-523 2986 yards, 16 td, 17 int 6 fumbles.
Named the starter by john gruden 2006, washed out in 07 after 1 game. picked up by the browns couldnt beat out derick anderson charlie fry or brady quinn. Grads has never had a completion percentage over 55%
Campbell: 20o6- present 1032-1689 11,127 yards, 56 td,
40int, 11 fumbles.
Campbell was drafted in 05 but didnt start a game unti 06, and has been a starter ever since! Campbell was thought highly enough of to survive 7 coordinator changes, Joe gibbs in offensive guru loved campbell. It just so happens that we are running a version of his/gilman/davis offense here.
Comparing apples to apples where do you see any evidence that grads is a better qb??
He may be ahead of campbell at the moment, but once campbell gets the feel, grads couldnt carry or see over campbells jock strap.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
J Hill Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:07 pm
so a ball hitting a DB in the chest isnt an errant pass,
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You know it’s not.
If you saw the play, Grads was ANTICIPATING where DHB was going to be. Had he not been held ILLEGALLY, it would have been a TD.
The ball that Campbell threw on that first drive hit the DBs in the HANDS. He threw it right to him as oppossed to tossing it over the DB to an open DHB!
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The DB has 5 yards to jam a db and was all over DHB, Grads shouldnt have made the throw period. On JC’s pick it was bad throw that he was trying to get to Louis murphy over the middle. The DB made a great play on the ball to catch, re-watch it. On Grads int it was a bad ball that was nearly tipped at the line and then had the route jumped by a DB.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
If Vick doesn’t play well this Sunday, maybe they should bash his skull in with a chunk of concrete?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Campbell has the tools. His problem is in his head. he needs a sports shrink.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The most hilarious irony of the Michael Vick hysteria:
People being angry at him for abusing animals while eating meat.
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LOL!
A lot of “hunters” on this site.
Man’s best friend thing I guess.
Where’s the outrage for the chickens????
September 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Choking dogs to death because they won’t fight anymore is somwehat more severe than mere abuse MR.
But then you probally know and agree with that, you just love an argument.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Campbell plays with very little confidence. Grads is the complete opposite.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The most hilarious irony of the Michael Vick hysteria:
People being angry at him for abusing animals while eating meat.
……………….i eat hamburgers i dont make them fight!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I was pretty outraged with the last chicken I ate-damn thing was tough.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
If Mike vick doesn’t play well this Sunday, maybe they should hang him?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The most hilarious irony of the Michael Vick hysteria:
People being angry at him for abusing animals while eating meat.
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LMAO!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
MMMMMMMMMMMM Lamb chops
September 21st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I’d like to see Mike Vick’s leg gnawed off.
I bet you would like to be the one to do it
Kannibal Kell
September 21st, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:00 pm
mistic1 …Gannon has to play it fast and loose, becuase he doesnt have the goods to play it any other way. He is too short to see over the line of scrimage, so he has to leave the pocket. he is not strong enough to get the ball deep, so he has to utilize a quick pasing scheme. Once defensive coordiantors have film on him running this years raider offense he is finished. Back qb’s look good alot of times becuase the defense game planned for some one else.
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Gannon cant be compared to grads. Gannon excelled in grudens offense, grads was cut by grudem!!!! What are you talking about?????
September 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
On JC’s pick it was bad throw that he was trying to get to Louis murphy over the middle. The DB made a great play on the ball to catch, re-watch it. On Grads int it was a bad ball that was nearly tipped at the line and then had the route jumped by a DB.
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I think YOU need to rewatch it.
Gradowski’s ball WAS tipped, lol. CMON!
You’re right about JC’s INT. Such a terrible ball all around, I’m surprised the DB caught it.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
If Mike vick doesn’t play well this Sunday, maybe they should hang him?
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If he played in the “SOUTH” division maybe.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
@ Armchair & all other posters bungi jumping off gradkowskis balls!!!!
lets compare
Grads: 2006-to present 290-523 2986 yards, 16 td, 17 int 6 fumbles.
Named the starter by john gruden 2006, washed out in 07 after 1 game. picked up by the browns couldnt beat out derick anderson charlie fry or brady quinn. Grads has never had a completion percentage over 55%
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Mystic I don’t care what Grads did in 2006.
I care about what he has done with the Raiders. And with the Raiders he is .500.
I think we can all agree that .500 football = 8-8 with a horrible offensive line.
That is a vast improvement over what we’ve seen the past 7 years.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Not that we need it or anything but would anybody sign Larry Johnson as our #3 running back or has he completely lost it as a player?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:21 pm
24 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Not that we need it or anything but would anybody sign Larry Johnson as our #3 running back or has he completely lost it as a player?
………………..id sign him in a heartbeat……
September 21st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
lots of hard miles on LJ , no thanks.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
LJ
September 21st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
If Mike Vick doesn’t play well this Sunday, maybe they should electrocute him?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
repost
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
@ Armchair & all other posters bungi jumping off gradkowskis balls!!!!
lets compare
Grads: 2006-to present 290-523 2986 yards, 16 td, 17 int 6 fumbles.
Named the starter by john gruden 2006, washed out in 07 after 1 game. picked up by the browns couldnt beat out derick anderson charlie fry or brady quinn. Grads has never had a completion percentage over 55%
Campbell: 20o6- present 1032-1689 11,127 yards, 56 td,
40int, 11 fumbles.
Campbell was drafted in 05 but didnt start a game unti 06, and has been a starter ever since! Campbell was thought highly enough of to survive 7 coordinator changes, Joe gibbs in offensive guru loved campbell. It just so happens that we are running a version of his/gilman/davis offense here. Campbell has had completion percentage over 60% for the season 3 times.
Comparing apples to apples where do you see any evidence that grads is a better qb??
He may be ahead of campbell at the moment, but once campbell gets the feel, grads couldnt carry or see over campbells jock strap.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I notice that no one is making a case for Jason Campbell using Jason Campbell’s production or positives.
That says a lot.
Standing question is what has Campbell done to earn the job???!!???!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:22 pm
lots of hard miles on LJ , no thanks
………………go buy some bacon a make them fight…
September 21st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=4485
Larry Johnson hasn’t really had that many carries overall. He had 2 great years. He’d be a better #3 than Bennett or Cartwright no? Cartwright stays based on special teams of course.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Campbell haters,
The difference between me and you is that if Grads gets the start i will be as ok with the decision as if Campbell gets the start. I can see the logic in either choice, some of you don’t or won’t and i have no problems with that. We all want a win (except RMR… unless he can somehow link it to Gruden, Bruce Allen,or Kiffin). I feel Campbell gives us the best chance at long term success, the last QB we have drafted and was any good was Stabler and that was in ‘68 my mom hadnt even turned 1yrs old yet. If Campbell proves he can’t be our starter and Grads shows us he can be more than an OK starter some of the time, I’ll be all in for the Polish Cannon. As long as the team can achieve and maintain success, I’m happy.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Bruce!
Bruce!
Bruce!!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
KoolKell – Love it. Awesome post haha. Or hell..stick him in a ring with 12 nasty pit bulls.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
bottom line is we have two QBs on our roster that no other team wanted on theirs. one has already proven they can atleast win with this team and the other hasnt proven a dam thing.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
@ Arm chair,
Nice try, those are his career stats to date. I posted them so everyone can see the big picture. Compared to campbell over the same time period leaves no doubt who is the superior football player.
You dont want to look at the total body of work, but you would rather judge jc on 6 quarters of football!?!?!?!
THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
J Hill – I personally like Campbell but Gradkowski has earned the starting position. Lets just hope that Campbell plays well if forced into action. What happens if Gradkowski has a bad game and Campbell comes in and plays better? Any given Sunday. What if DHB goes back to normal and McFadden gets injured and Murphy drops every pass. We can play this game all day. We’ve been bagging on McFadden for 2 years and DHB for all of last year. Campbell is the new target to hate on while everyone else is playing well.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Vick’s got some nasty Karma coming, oooh boy!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Choking dogs to death because they won’t fight anymore is somwehat more severe than mere abuse MR.
But then you probally know and agree with that, you just love an argument.
…………..
Oh, another one of these guys who’s above arguing, if not only for the fact that he always seems to be in them as well.
So, riddle me, England Raider. How do you think the meat gets to your plate? Is the animal still alive when you eat it? And, do you eat just enough of it to where it could still survive, then let it free? That animal had to have faced some sort of torture. First it had to have been taken by force from its habitat. You can’t talk an animal into coming to a butchering factory with you. You have to knock them out, then cramp them into a vehicle. That’s not torture?
Vick killed dogs because they were no longer able to fight.
The meat industry kills animals so they can sell them to people who will eat them, FOR JOY.
I’m intellectually honest enough to know they’re BOTH wrong. You, on the other hand, are not. That’s the difference between me and you.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Old Kell,…honestly,..you need to get yourself a medical card,..and get high every day…nobody needs pot more then you. Sorry you lost your Akita though dude.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:29 pm
@ JHILL
READ POST # 307 ITS PRODUCTION VS. PRODUCTION.
JUST THE COLD HARD FACTS!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Vick’s got some nasty Karma coming, oooh boy!
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Yeah it was called prison. Karma is a funny thing Kell
September 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:23 pm
repost
mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
@ Armchair & all other posters bungi jumping off gradkowskis balls!!!!
lets compare
Grads: 2006-to present 290-523 2986 yards, 16 td, 17 int 6 fumbles.
Named the starter by john gruden 2006, washed out in 07 after 1 game. picked up by the browns couldnt beat out derick anderson charlie fry or brady quinn. Grads has never had a completion percentage over 55%
Campbell: 20o6- present 1032-1689 11,127 yards, 56 td,
40int, 11 fumbles.
Campbell was drafted in 05 but didnt start a game unti 06, and has been a starter ever since! Campbell was thought highly enough of to survive 7 coordinator changes, Joe gibbs in offensive guru loved campbell. It just so happens that we are running a version of his/gilman/davis offense here. Campbell has had completion percentage over 60% for the season 3 times.
Comparing apples to apples where do you see any evidence that grads is a better qb??
He may be ahead of campbell at the moment, but once campbell gets the feel, grads couldnt carry or see over campbells jock strap.
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They won’t respond to this post…..they simply can’t. Its hard to argue with who has had the better career numbers and both players were drafted by playoff teams.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
J Hill:
You’re right about DHB connecting with Bruce in that game.
He wasn’t just catching the ball either but breaking tackles.
Maybe Al is going to be proven right about that guy.
That’s reason enough to keep Bruce out there Al.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
And why the hell are we hating on Campbell? He played 1 and a half games on a new team with a new offensive coordinator. Hes a Raider, can’t we accept him and give him another chance if it happens in the future? Don’t but the man alive just yet. Hes not Jamarcus Russell and by a long shot.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:32 pm
vick should stop fighting dogs and rmr should stop choking his chicken……
September 21st, 2010 at 4:32 pm
MR,..Im heading to Mont Bleu thursday,..try again with a parlay card,..last sundays I didnt come close,…did have the Niners though,…lost on Oakland,…what do you say Holmes?.,..slam a couple beers on the beach…my lock of this upcoming week is SF,…no line out yet but SF will destroy the Chiefs. Word.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Don’t burn the man alive I meant to say.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
After watching the game ( i think most people here havnt actually watched it) Campbell moved the ball the entire first half! He killed the last drive with an int. Every other drive fail was due to piss poor o-line play, penalties blown assignments, failure to execute! Even jano screwed up a scoring oppurtunity!
Just like washington Campbell is being scapegoated!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
MR:
How does the meat get to my plate? Well, sometimes I buy it and sometimes I shoot it.
Is the animal still alive when I eat it?
Well, it seemed that way when my first wife cooked it.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Black qb’s almost always get the quick hook.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
How long should we give Campbell to find his groove?????
Week 6 ?? Then maybe he gets the offense???
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
My input on the QB situation,..I saw it up close,..Campbell without question sucks,..period…that little Polock should not only start sunday but the rest of the year,..if he gets hurt or plays poorly go with Boller,…Campbell is a crappy version of Aaron Brooks,…my wet dream is to have Gruden reunited with Gradkowski in Oakland,..only reason I went to Rickys the other night was to hope to see Jon there,..and kidnap him,..I was for sure drunk enough to do it.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:35 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
bottom line is we have two QBs on our roster that no other team wanted on theirs. one has already proven they can atleast win with this team and the other hasnt proven a dam thing.
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correction: hasn’t been given a sufficient oppurtunity to prove a damn thing.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I’m going on the record as saying…I like Jason Campbell as well as Bruce Gradkowski. Boller is a decent #3 to have. I’m happy to have the guys we currently have until they completely suck altogether and then I’ll want someone else but so far so good. We’ll see how everyone fares over the course of the year.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Black qb’s get the quick hook?…lol…in Oakland they get paid!…I doubt owners give a hoot what the qb looks like these days,..they will put out a green transvestite under center if it would win games.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Lynn – I think you go with the hot hand right now in Gradkowski for sure but its nice to have both guys just in case.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
EnglandRaider, have you ever watched a documentary film that shows how animals are treated by legitimate meat industries? Ever seen a video of foreign factory workers, outsourced by American meat companies, club a cow or horse until it’s bloody and dead? No. But you’ll read about Michael Vick and ooo and aah at the horrible things he did to animals. About as far as your research goes with the meat industry, however, is your search for Arby’s coupons in the Sunday paper.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
mistic1= Campbells agent.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
some of you guys are talking crazy. Gradkowski is the man and our system fits his style perfectly. Correct me if I’m wrong but did Jason Campbell ever take the skins to the playoffs? He doesn’t win games in the final minutes of a game like Bruce can, he tosses interceptions, he fumbles and all around he looks like he’s stuck in the mud behind the line. Grads wouldn’t just sit down a few yards from the first down marker he’d take the hit and get it.
This team looks totally different with Bruce behind center, and whoever doesn’t see that, wasn’t really watching the game. I was really hoping that he’d be our starter this year, and then we got campbell – who really wasn’t ever any good in washington either, he is in fact a serviceable backup though.
BRUCE IS THE MAN FOOLS! and he better be starting this weekend, I’m already thinking about ordering my Grads jersey.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Norco – Green Transvestite at QB? You’re on to something. Al Davis will surely make it happen and say he was the first to make it happen and be successful. I’m surprised AD hasn’t had the 1st woman QB yet. Theres still time.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
.only reason I went to Rickys the other night was to hope to see Jon there,..and kidnap him,.
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Yikes, is that why Radnich asked you to quit calling/stalking him?
You a nasty little groupie?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:39 pm
This from our captain who has the reign to say what he pleases-
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha had this strange reaction: “The thing is, we might have been down 7-3, it could have been 7-6. So it wasn’t like we were getting killed by the Rams, so I guess that’s why it would be surprising.
“But at the same time, it’s good that the offense didn’t let it mess up what they were doing. They were still able to run the ball, still able to move the ball with Bruce. So as long as it works out, I think everybody’s OK with it.”
September 21st, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Damn,..first old kell mentioned Arbys the other day,..now MR,..thanks,..Im there in an hour,..extra horsey sauce. Book that.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
He may be ahead of campbell at the moment, but once campbell gets the feel, grads couldnt carry or see over campbells jock strap.
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Hmm…This sounds familiar…let’s see….ah yes, priest once made that very statement except instead of Campbell, it was Russell at the time. Well, Grads is still here.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
My input on the QB situation,..I saw it up close,..Campbell without question sucks,..period…that little Polock should not only start sunday but the rest of the year,..if he gets hurt or plays poorly go with Boller,…Campbell is a crappy version of Aaron Brooks,…my wet dream is to have Gruden reunited with Gradkowski in Oakland,..only reason I went to Rickys the other night was to hope to see Jon there,..and kidnap him,..I was for sure drunk enough to do it.
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GRUDEN DRAFTED GRADS IN 06, THEN CUT HIM IN 07!!!!!!!
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
September 21st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Im actually a regular caller to Gary,..and Ralph n Tom,..have been for several years,…they welcome my calls,..and Im on the Bruno segment alot too.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
MR:
Sure I’ve seen documentaries showing how animals for slaughter are treated. In fact I made a resolution.
I swore never to watch documentaries again.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Black qb’s get the quick hook?…lol…in Oakland they get paid!…I doubt owners give a hoot what the qb looks like these days,..they will put out a green transvestite under center if it would win games.
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Eldridge Dickey would disagree im sure
September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Mystic,…times have changed,..Iv heard Jon say great things about him late last year,…he is ready now,..wasnt as a rookie.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
As far as giving Campbell time to develop because it’s a “lost season”? C’mon. Say that when we are 1-4 and I’ll agree with you, but this was SUPPOSED to be a year when we make the playoffs….maybe. I say keep the hot hand going and see if we can end this seven year funk and if Bruce fails and teams watch film and are able to scheme and destroy him, then go to plan b-Campbell.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Mistic – Campbell had em lined up in the WRONG FORMATION on the 4th and short. He is not playing with confidence.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:42 pm
bruce gradkowski is and always will be a pollock!!!theres your downside and nothing can be done about it.once a pollock always a pollock.Two pollocks were walking in the woods when they came across a sheep with it’s head stuck in a fence.
The one pulls down his pants & does the sheep.
Then he turns to his buddy and said, “Ok it’s your turn.”
So his buddy sticks his head in the fence
September 21st, 2010 at 4:42 pm
# mistic1 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Black qb’s almost always get the quick hook.
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LMAO! You’re right Mistic, Campbell didn’t get much of a chance at all in Washington. How many years was he the starter there?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I just think the when Grads is in there they actual look like a real NFL team. Which is converting 3rd down and putting points on the board . Not checking down for a 4yrd out.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Im actually a regular caller to Gary,..and Ralph n Tom,..have been for several years,…they welcome my calls,..and Im on the Bruno segment alot too.
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eeeew. Too disgusting.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
EnglandRaiders, so you’ve seen how the meat industry treats animals, yet you’re still pretending what Vick did was worse. Are you just stupid?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
It’s clear the majority of us, including those at the game, want Grads. No sense arguing with just a couple of stubborn folks over this. Fact is, Grads has played better than any other QB we’ve had here over the past 2 years.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Comparing a domesticated animal like a dog being forced to fight,..to slaughtering cows,..well I wouldnt make that comparison…I think what Vick did was sick,…to have that as a hobby,..purely sick…Im not thrilled how we mass kill chickens and cows,..but its not done for enjoyment,..just sayin.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
For all you fantasy football guru’s on here! – when your backup QB gets hurt and your main QB has a bye week, for the last 3 years or so what name would you most def see on the waiver wire?
If you answered Jason Campbell then you hit the nail on the head, the guy doesn’t put up huge yards or even multiple td’s a game but you know he’s out there if you absolutely have to have someone to start.
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCE!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
please don’t introduce race into this debate.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
We can sit here and blame Campbell all day but would anybody want to stand behind the revolving door of Henderson/Veldheer, Satele, Carlisle and Walker? Can’t hate on Gallery or the other guy’s who’s name didn’t get called on Sunday because he played well. Seriously…Anybody want to take a crack at it?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
severeraider, all though you may be right about not given a sufficient oppurtunity but he did have a better o-line and wrs in washington to prove it, but didnt. shanarat went in knowing the kinda QB he had to deal with and dealt him. and us needing a QB picked him up.
i hope we just stick to what is working to win.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Are people in here supporting Campbell because he’s black? Why don’t we just get a better black QB, if that’s what it’s about? Because Campbell stinks in any color.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
They dont find it disgusting old man,..in fact Pat conner emails me once in a while for me to call,..to liven up a dead show,..and Iv met them both over the years,…its all good with us dude,..Gary has hundreds of loyal listeners/callers,..he likes that.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
What bothers me the most is that Tom Cable is terrible at analyzing his own talent for the offensive line. TERRIBLE!!! After all the time hes had to do it.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
MR,..you and me,..Mont Bleu,..thursday,..you in?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
# 24 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
We can sit here and blame Campbell all day but would anybody want to stand behind the revolving door of Henderson/Veldheer, Satele, Carlisle and Walker? Can’t hate on Gallery or the other guy’s who’s name didn’t get called on Sunday because he played well. Seriously…Anybody want to take a crack at it?
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Tony Romo
September 21st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
MR:
I gotta say you’re a great straight man. Lol!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Norco Bob, what Vick did isn’t for enjoyment, either. It’s gambling. They’re betting on those dogs. They were running a casino. It was a business. Guys from the hood were making real money, and they got Vick to invest in it. Dogs can’t fight anymore, they get killed. Meat industry is in it for profit, too, to sell meat to fat Americans like you, who think they need meat in their diet. In both cases, you have animals being tortured and killed for the greed of a few. Bob, stick to cheap alcohol, pills, and the Raiders’ parking lot, the only 3 things you know anything about.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:48 pm
STR – Better O-Line and receivers? Dude…the Redskin O-Line is ALWAYS injured and besides Santana Moss..what WR’s have been worth a damn for him? He’s also had terrible coaches to go along with it all.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Lynn – Romo would fumble or throw an interception as well…hes notorious for that.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Comparing a domesticated animal like a dog being forced to fight,..to slaughtering cows,..well I wouldnt make that comparison…I think what Vick did was sick,…to have that as a hobby,..purely sick…Im not thrilled how we mass kill chickens and cows,..but its not done for enjoyment,..just sayin.
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Bob, is that you??????? my, my. good for you!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
24 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
And why the hell are we hating on Campbell? He played 1 and a half games on a new team with a new offensive coordinator. Hes a Raider, can’t we accept him and give him another chance if it happens in the future? Don’t but the man alive just yet. Hes not Jamarcus Russell and by a long shot.
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Good post and vice versa about some hanging their heads if Grads gets the start. I guess part of me wants Jason to start so this won’t be a year long thing where we have to question whether he was pulled too soon. If Grads is winning thoe questions won’t arise, but their is nothing in Bruce’s history that says he can win on a consistent basis.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Raider_j_Hawk Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
some of you guys are talking crazy. Gradkowski is the man and our system fits his style perfectly. Correct me if I’m wrong but did Jason Campbell ever take the skins to the playoffs? He doesn’t win games in the final minutes of a game like Bruce can, he tosses interceptions, he fumbles and all around he looks like he’s stuck in the mud behind the line. Grads wouldn’t just sit down a few yards from the first down marker he’d take the hit and get it.
Jason had the same problem in DC, that he has in Oakland no o-line. I’m from DC trust me I know what he can do. With an Idiot coach, dumb play calling and no line, he still threw for 3,800 hundred yards and 20 with a qb rating of 80+ and 20 td’s. Bruce is not the man, he can get you 4 wins tops dont get caught up in the hype, you beat the Rams Jason has beat 88% of the teams in the NFL. GET THE GUY SOME BIG UGLYS WHO CAN BLOCK AND HE WILL BE EXCEPTIONAL. Bruce is a fan favorite that will fizzle when the big boys come to town, We beat the Rams people the Rams.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
EnglandRaider, I thought you were above arguing? You’ve made how many comments today, and how many of them were directed toward me? Either you like arguing, or you’re trying to be my friend.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Are people in here supporting Campbell because he’s black? Why don’t we just get a better black QB, if that’s what it’s about? Because Campbell stinks in any color.
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Exactly! Introducing race into this is asinine.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Raider_j_Hawk Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:38 pm
some of you guys are talking crazy. Gradkowski is the man and our system fits his style perfectly. Correct me if I’m wrong but did Jason Campbell ever take the skins to the playoffs?
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YOU ARE WRONG ON TWO COUNTS. Campbell to the skins to the playoffs in 07!!!!
Grads is a fit for this system???!?!? Do you know what system we run?!?!?!
Air coryel, sid gilman/ vertical pasing game. Im afraid you need a bis arm to run this scheme. No noodle arm qb can do it, and that is grads a noodle arm qb!
Fouts, Rypien, Williams, Plunkett, Stabler….
You need a big arm to play this scheme, its strictly for the big boys!
do a little more research so you may have informed opinions.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I dont drink cheap booze dude,..we always have Don Julio,..Patron,…Grey Goose,…if you call bud lite cheap then ok…ans BS if you dont think Vick and his loser friends/hangers on didnt get a thrill from watching these dogs shred each other youre wrong,..if it was only gambling they would be playing poker.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:55 pm
MR:
Well, I guess I do like arguing. I really got enough friends though but thanks anyway.
Like I said you’re a great straight man.
I gotta tell you though this got be boring.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Bob
We buy free range organic meats and produce, don’t we?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Norco Bob, I know you’re brain damaged. But try to follow: Vick’s friends were running a casino, not just gambling. It’s a business. Since they’re not going to get a license to run a riverboat casino, they’re doing it under the table, fighting dogs. It’s about making money, you drunk.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Comparing a domesticated animal like a dog being forced to fight,..to slaughtering cows,..well I wouldnt make that comparison…I think what Vick did was sick,…to have that as a hobby,..purely sick…Im not thrilled how we mass kill chickens and cows,..but its not done for enjoyment,..just sayin.
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Vick did what he did as a business that made money, just like these people that have cows and chickens. There are much more humane ways to house these animals, but they are less profitable. I have owned 3 pitbulls in my life at various times, when i was younger a neighbor of mine lied and said my pitbull bit one of her kids, which he would never do, and we had to have him put down. She was yelling how “those types” of dogs are vicious and killers and know how to do nothing else but destroy and attack, a sentiment shared by many i have encountered. Yet when someone uses them for the purpose that so many say they are born and bred for suddenly they are up in arms.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
They still sell that Ranier Ale out there in California?
September 21st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I do.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:57 pm
England Raider, stop trying to convince people you’re not a boring loser with a boring life.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
STR – Better O-Line and receivers? Dude…the Redskin O-Line is ALWAYS injured and besides Santana Moss..what WR’s have been worth a damn for him? He’s also had terrible coaches to go along with it all.
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now with that being said, how is he suppose to come in here and help our team win with the same type of questionable line and one good WR?
im not talking schit about campbell cause whatever helps us win will work, but grads has the same thing to deal with and has produced W’s
September 21st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Severeraiders…Iv never once met a person that owned a pit bull as a pet that wasnt a complete punk,..as Im sure you are,..total weakling that has to walk around the park with his pitbull to show haw tough he is.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
EnglandRaider, you’re not a cool guy who knows a lot about beer, ok? Stop. Talk Raiders. It’s the only subject you’re wise on. Everything else, you sound like a fish out of water, like you don’t know what you’re talking about.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
One day severeraider,..your “pet” will wake up in a pissed off mood,..and if a little kid is in the room, there goes the kids throat.
September 21st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
This was great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8esNW2gBEI
Don’t catch a pass in front of Slammer McClain Arizona.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Know alot about beer?…when people ask me what my favorite beer is,..I answer…cold.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The Big Banana Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Are people in here supporting Campbell because he’s black? Why don’t we just get a better black QB, if that’s what it’s about? Because Campbell stinks in any color.
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Exactly! Introducing race into this is asinine.
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Wrong again!!!!! Black qb’s were more often then not forced to change position just to be in the nfl!!! This still goes on today. Most never get a shot like Campbell, or some of the recent wave of black qb’s. Still far too many dont get a fair shake, while their white counter parts stink it up year after year.
Bruce has not distinguished himself in this league in any way. Campbell has proven himself as a starter and has far better numbers then grads when you compare the two careers. Yet some people dont want to look at the big picture, they would rather base it on 6 quarters of football. If its not race than what is it??
Jay cutler sucked last year with his new team for a full season he is still there?
But you want to becnch Campbell after 6 quarters.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
No, catch a pass in front of Slammer McClain. It’s an automatic 15 yards and a first down, every time. If I’m Arizona, I’m going after McClain every play. To agitate him, see if I can get him to commit more penalties.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
MR,..was it all to do with gambling then when they would electricute and drown these poor dogs?…keep it real dude.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Norco, my favorite beer is the kind with alcohol.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Norco, they couldn’t take the dogs to shelters. Would have given up their operation. Nobody adopts old beat up pits anyway. They would have just died in the crowded shelter. It’s horrible what they did, but it was business.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Sorry JC let me be the first to apologize, THIS COACHING STAFF IS ACTUALLY WORST THAN THE ONE YOU HAD IN WASHINGINGTON, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A SCAPEGOAT INSTEAD OF FIXING THE REAL ISSUE, TOM FABLES BABY, THE O-LINE!!!!!!!!!!!! HE STINKS AS AN O-LINE COACH, AND HE STINKS AS A HEAD COACH!!!!!!! SORRY GUYS BRUCE ALMIGHTEY CANT FIX THAT!!!!!!ALTHOUGH HE GETS AN A FOR EFFORT. AL DAVIS WAS RIGHT JC IS THE BEST QB THE RAIDERS HAVE HAD SINCE RG EMBRACE THAT BECAUSE IT’S REAL.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Well whatever man,..I say the gambling aspect to them was all a charade,..they just liked the sick violence of it all,..and betting on it was their way of justifying it…Im real dude.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Vick’s Dogfighting business. Nonsense. Multimillionaires don’t go into nickel & dime business’s.
They buy Real Estate.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
MR:
Stop feeding me straight lines.
The only boring thing about my life is talking to you.
Do I know anything about beer?
Sure you pour it in a glass and drink it.
Now, go away.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:06 pm
September 21st, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I dont drink cheap booze dude,..we always have Don Julio,..Patron,…Grey Goose,…if you call bud lite cheap then ok…ans BS if you dont think Vick and his loser friends/hangers on didnt get a thrill from watching these dogs shred each other youre wrong,..if it was only gambling they would be playing poker.
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im sure the only thrill that is there is because your betting money and hoping to double or triple up. the only difference with dog and rooster fights compared to boxing and UFC is the animals fight for life.
other than that they are gamblers trying to make money….just like poker.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Well Im goin to watch the Giants game,..Im out. If Cable proclaims Campbell as the starter tomorrow Im done,..period…I will donate the rest of this years season tickets to my worst enemy,…cya.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Severeraiders…Iv never once met a person that owned a pit bull as a pet that wasnt a complete punk,..as Im sure you are,..total weakling that has to walk around the park with his pitbull to show haw tough he is.
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
One day severeraider,..your “pet” will wake up in a pissed off mood,..and if a little kid is in the room, there goes the kids throat.
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Have been living in apartments since i was 17 so i havent had one for a while. My pit was a regular dog that i walked like a regular dog would get walked. He was named truck and he was with my grandmothers dogs a collie and a poodle. His ears weren’t clipped and he was much better with the neighbor hood kids than any dog on the block. You must be a punk trying to insult someone over the internet, pretty sad.
I see you share the sentiments about pitbulls that so many others do. Get one, raise him and it will change your tune
September 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Those Pitbulls were nothing more than an accoutrements, the same as the street punks.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
It’s true that McClain got a 15 yard penalty and gave up a first down but he also left a memory with a lot of people-Tatum style.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
LOL @ Bruce vs JC, its a color thang!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Norco, like I said earlier, that’s because you’re not very smart when it comes to things outside of Raider tailgating and drug abuse. You don’t know what you’re talking about, that’s why people who do are trying to help you. Vick’s old buddies from the hood were using this as their primary source of income. They got Vick to invest in it, let him use their property, etc. That’s how it works. Rich athletes from the hood are under a lot of pressure to “help out” some of the old homies. Dog fighting is a business, period. The execution of those dogs, as horrible as it was, was business as well. They take the dogs to vets or shelters, and they’re giving themselves up. It’s just out of the equation. It’s a crazy world, and people are going to do what they do to survive.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:09 pm
EnglandRaider, here’s the memory McClain’s penalty left on the league:
GO AFTER MCCLAIN! IT’S A GUARANTEED 15 YARDS AND FIRST DOWN!
That’s how scared they are.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
EnglandRaider, top pretending you’re distinguished, smart, leisurely, etc. You’re a loser. You’re not going to convince anyone that you’re someone special by playing the part on a football blog. Loser.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Vick paid his dues. Next.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Know alot about beer?…when people ask me what my favorite beer is,..I answer…cold.
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best answer i have ever heard for that question, lol, good one there
September 21st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
I only brought up race because i am at a loss trying to figure out how grads can suck since 06, campbell has produced him since 06, has much more talent, but people want to bench him after 6 quarters.
Also people want to point out campbells short comings through six quarters and ignore grads short comings going back to last year!
Race may not be the issue, and perhaps I am bit sensitive having watched my favorite qb’s forced to play in canada, sit the bench and get dumped after huge years. But if some one could honestly look at the career stats for these two and give a solid alternative i am willing to listen.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
For Vick’s guys to take the dogs to a shelter when they were no longer able to fight would have been like a dope dealer taking an overdosed user to the ER themselves. Just doesn’t work that way.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:16 pm
gwest12 Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Sorry JC let me be the first to apologize, THIS COACHING STAFF IS ACTUALLY WORST THAN THE ONE YOU HAD IN WASHINGINGTON, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A SCAPEGOAT INSTEAD OF FIXING THE REAL ISSUE, TOM FABLES BABY, THE O-LINE!!!!!!!!!!!! HE STINKS AS AN O-LINE COACH, AND HE STINKS AS A HEAD COACH!!!!!!! SORRY GUYS BRUCE ALMIGHTEY CANT FIX THAT!!!!!!ALTHOUGH HE GETS AN A FOR EFFORT. AL DAVIS WAS RIGHT JC IS THE BEST QB THE RAIDERS HAVE HAD SINCE RG EMBRACE THAT BECAUSE IT’S REAL.
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Although I think we should play Bruce, Campbell is stil a competent QB. He’s certainly no Russell.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Grad hasn’t sucked, Mistic. You’re lying. And that’s what makes your race argument fall flat on its face. If you’ve read my comments here, you’d know I believe that racism is still a problem in America, and that it’s definitely prevalent in the NFL. Bring up the possibility of racism by addressing facts, not claiming someone sucks when you know they don’t. Bruce just led us to another victory two days ago. And you’re saying he sucks? Listen to yourself.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
For Vick’s guys to take the dogs to a shelter when they were no longer able to fight would have been like a dope dealer taking an overdosed user to the ER themselves. Just doesn’t work that way.
…………………solution dont do it at all……
September 21st, 2010 at 5:26 pm
@ The Real MaddenRaider
Grads: 2006-to present 290-523 2986 yards, 16 td, 17 int 6 fumbles.
Named the starter by john gruden 2006, washed out in 07 after 1 game. picked up by the browns couldnt beat out derick anderson charlie fry or brady quinn. Grads has never had a completion percentage over 55%
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This looks like sucking pretty bad to me, i mean the numbers dont lie, nor does the game film, nor do I.
These are the cold hard truths that you dont want to swallow.
Do I really need to chronicle the plight of the black qb on thios blog?? I thought most knowledgable fans already knew about it.
Lastly i raised the possibilty that the fan base is impatient with campbell, this could be a race issue. We won inspite of bruce and cable, they almost botched a game we had no business losing!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:27 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:10
true. they didnt all have vicks ability to play ball and make money so they had to make it somehow. and what gambler is gonna back down from someone telling them they have a pitbull that can beat their pitbull with a few hundred dollars supporting it
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Then they shoulda detailed cars, for a few hundred dollars. lol They wanted to be tough guys, plain and simple.
I’d like to see Vick neutered, at least.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Sorry, Mistic, I was basing my opinion on Gradkowki leading us to victory. I thought winning was the object of this game. Guess it isn’t.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
jeff george, rusty hilger, marc wilson, jay shroeder, andrew walter, todd marinovich, kerry collins, they all got more than 6 quarters, and they all sucked much worse than campbell!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Aaron Brooks, Jamarcus, even Vince Evans also got more than 6!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
For Vick’s guys to take the dogs to a shelter when they were no longer able to fight would have been like a dope dealer taking an overdosed user to the ER themselves. Just doesn’t work that way.
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too dam funny bro, but true.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I’m gonna call the Dig Wisperer to come in and fix this blog, damnit!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:27 pm
SouthTexasRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:10
true. they didnt all have vicks ability to play ball and make money so they had to make it somehow. and what gambler is gonna back down from someone telling them they have a pitbull that can beat their pitbull with a few hundred dollars supporting it
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Then they shoulda detailed cars, for a few hundred dollars. lol They wanted to be tough guys, plain and simple.
I’d like to see Vick neutered, at least.
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i think i heard that he sued a woman for giving him herpes or vice versa….thats pretty close to what you asked for.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
woops, Dog Whisperer
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# fat kidd Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
…………………..guns dont kill people,people kill people………
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Guns don’t kill people?
Then what happens when the trigger is pulled while a gun is aimed at a person? Does it just tickle them?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# fat kidd Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
…………………..guns dont kill people,people kill people………
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Guns don’t kill people?
Then what happens when the trigger is pulled while a gun is aimed at a person? Does it just tickle them?
…………….the gun dont pull the trigger people do…….
September 21st, 2010 at 5:34 pm
The only purpose a gun serves is to kill or severely disable people. How could any moron state that guns don’t kill people? What a retarded thing to say.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Fat Kidd, if guns don’t kill people, what do guns do?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:35 pm
@ The Real MaddenRaider
Sorry, Mistic, I was basing my opinion on Gradkowki leading us to victory. I thought winning was the object of this game. Guess it isn’t.
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Nice but that dog wont hunt either, i dont buy it.
Dmac and the defnese led us to victory, not grads.
hue jacksons halftime play calling adjustmenst won that game, not grads. DHB led us to victory with his huge fourth quarter catches for first downs, not grads.
In fact grads nearly threw the game away 3 times, and was picked once in the fourth quarter!
Cable also won on sunday…..should he be retained as well?
Al Davis won on sunday….but people want him gone too.
Ther is a double standard at work here!!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Fat Kidd, if guns don’t kill people, what do guns do?
……………….gun kills deer people eat deer…
September 21st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Campbell sucks. Who throws the ball in the ground without anyone within 8 yards of him? He’s no play maker, no drive, no heart, no motor. He is mediocre.
I have a coulpe of die hard Redskin fan friends who were so glad he was traded. Then they proceeded to laugh their asses off at me and said just wait and see. Well they were right.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
So. Vehldeer or Henderson?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Aaron Brooks, Jamarcus, even Vince Evans also got more than 6!
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You missed the point. The way I remember people did not want brooks here either!!! People wanted andrew walter. Evans was a career back up way past his prime. Evans could have been a starter in leauge in his prime but never got a shot!! jamarcus may have set the black qb back 25 years with his purple drank stupor.
My point is you dont yank the starter with a new team after six quarters of unsinpired ( not terrible) play!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Also my family is from the south so most of the men have guns, just the way of life down there i guess.
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dam right we do, i have two handguns and about 12 rifles in mine. and its a way of life meaning we will shoot anyone who trespasses in our property. i live in the country side and it takes to dam long for the authority to get here if someone is trespassing.
if i see someone sneaking around, i know there are not here to sell me subscriptions to a magazine, they are here to rob my ass. besides everyone in texas atleast owns a 12-gauge shotgun, lol
September 21st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Hey, I’m just saying that if there is one owner in the NFL that is color blind, its Al.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Campbell sucks. Who throws the ball in the ground without anyone within 8 yards of him? He’s no play maker, no drive, no heart, no motor. He is mediocre.
I have a coulpe of die hard Redskin fan friends who were so glad he was traded. Then they proceeded to laugh their asses off at me and said just wait and see. Well they were right.
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Do you watch football??? The play was a screen, and it was covered, there were no out lets, and defenders were every where. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO THROW IT IN THE DIRT IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE!!! If your going to bach him talk about his int at the end of the half, at least that way you sound like someone that actually knows something about the sport!
September 21st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Campbell sucks. Who throws the ball in the ground without anyone within 8 yards of him? He’s no play maker, no drive, no heart, no motor. He is mediocre.
I have a coulpe of die hard Redskin fan friends who were so glad he was traded. Then they proceeded to laugh their asses off at me and said just wait and see. Well they were right.
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pretty much the same thing was told to me with from my redskin buddies, lol.
and they WERE right
September 21st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Hey, I’m just saying that if there is one owner in the NFL that is color blind, its Al.
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I agree with you on this, to large degeree, this is one reason why he is a favorite of mine. My point was about the fan base, not the ownership.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
What Cable is doing with the OL is driving me crazy.
All that playing people out of position and rotating the LT. I guess he sees what he’s got and doesn’t like it. Make up your mind Cable.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Pop Quiz:
Its only 2 games into the season but…
DHB has 7 receptions for 91yds
Crab Diva has 3 receptions for 44yds
If this trend continues how long do you think it will take the media to recant …”Hey, Al was right”?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Veldheer has done fairly well for a rookie. Especially when Cable has him playing center one week and LT the next.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:47 pm
what about these numbers?????
Campbell: 20o6- present 1032-1689 11,127 yards, 56 td,
40int, 11 fumbles.
These numbers look pretty good, and what if he actually gets a chance to play with a talented team, and uner one coordiantorfor more than a year at a time.
Put down the purple drank…this kid just needs time with this team.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:47 pm
yeah campbell had a bad game lets bench him,and if gradkowski has a bad game in arizona lets bench him ,then kyle boller has a bad game lets bench him,then will trade for mike vick and if he has a bad game lets bench him.then will bring back j. russell and if he has a bad game we will bench him.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Pre-Season Passer Rating:
Gradkowski 125.9
Boller 102.9
Campbell 70.4
Season Passer Rating:
Gradkowski 70.6
Campbell 61.9
While Campbell looks confused. Gotta go with Gradkowski.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Cables o-line is a joke, this is the reason he has to go!!! The way i see it we satele, henderson, carlisle all must go.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
the 40ints is a little high for me to be honest compared to only 56tds
and campbell is the checkdown maestro hence the high completion percentage.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:50 pm
There were no sacks in the second half of that game.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:51 pm
My point is you dont yank the starter with a new team after six quarters of unsinpired ( not terrible) play!
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mistic1, bro, so then we are suppose to wait a few years to see if he developes the way the redskins did? then trade him?
dude that expirement came and went with russell and we dont have or cant even afford 6 more quarters to lose. campbell doesnt have a learning curve being a veteran. he either produces or he doesnt, and being 6 quarters with us or 4 years with the skins…..he hasnt.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Mystic:
You’re right that the OL is a problem, but that’s one reason why Bruce should be playing. He reads the defence faster and gets rid of the ball. Campbell has a hard time making up his mind.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Excuse me? You idiot, he could have taken off and made a play. But let’s remember back to his awe inspiring slide for the first down. A thing of beauty. The dude is a slouch.
You know damn well a playmaker would have never given up on a play in 1.5 seconds. And Grads would have at least tried. We don’t need a half-arsed game manager right now. We need someone to make plays.
Shannahan is laughing at us once again. He knew what he had.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Is it just me, or does Cable look more removed and uninformed from this team than he did in Pre-Season? His comments, non comments, general lack of knowing this team, with his less commitments, and the disgeneration of our O-line, he was an O-line guru, seem to me to just not add up?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Was at the game and dissapointed in all the Bruce chants before Campbell was pulled. Bruce has had more time with these guys so he should be further along than Campbell but is he the best solution for us long term? I say Cable made the right decision after seeing the outcome so he deserves credit and I know I’m in the small minority but dang, do we have to be that tough on our guys? What happens when Bruce has a bad game?
September 21st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Campbell was given the staring job in camp. He never earned it.
We don’t have time to develop anyone anymore. We need to win and now.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:00 pm
i just say let campbell sit an watch so when grads messes up, he will be the one being chanted.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Inone, when is it right to pull the plug, we had no first half stats, not saying Campball can’t get it done, but from what I saw, he was a zombie on the field, held way too long, couldn’t get it done. Did you see a different game?
September 21st, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Hell yeah Terrapin I haven’t noticed you commenting too much in here lately, bask in it brother! Our squad is brimming with talented chip on the shoulder guys that were supposed to be busts like DHB and DMAC and with a fiery leader behind center giving us our identity, sky’s the limit
September 21st, 2010 at 6:03 pm
morilla Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Campbell was given the staring job in camp. He never earned it.
We don’t have time to develop anyone anymore. We need to win and now.
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so dam true man, for real
September 21st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Seriously, if Campbell was in the game there’s a serious chance the offense would have continued to look absolutely dismal – as it did for his entire 6Qs. I had no hope at that time that things would change.
The O just had no rhythm. Bruce came in and it all changed.
Campbell’s not even getting good use out of Miller. Bruce is getting good use out of all of them. You just can’t keep losing. You lose your team. You have to win games. Period!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:11 pm
lmao
September 21st, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Inone, when is it right to pull the plug, we had no first half stats, not saying Campball can’t get it done, but from what I saw, he was a zombie on the field, held way too long, couldn’t get it done. Did you see a different game?
I felt like he made some plays with his feet, took hits and got up like he always does, avoided a lot of mistakes, and managed the game. With a bad oline very young drop prone receivers I think he deserved the chance to figure it out and pull out a win. He also has the best tools of our QBs and although I am glad Bruce is at the healm because of the spark he’s brought the team I don’t think we as fans should have called JC out so soon when the guys been such a pro. I know I’m pretty alone on this one, then again I didn’t like the booing Russell was getting last year because it doesn’t help our teams confidence and therefore chance of winning
September 21st, 2010 at 6:17 pm
inonewordraider Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Was at the game and dissapointed in all the Bruce chants before Campbell was pulled. Bruce has had more time with these guys so he should be further along than Campbell but is he the best solution for us long term? I say Cable made the right decision after seeing the outcome so he deserves credit and I know I’m in the small minority but dang, do we have to be that tough on our guys? What happens when Bruce has a bad game?
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Very good question
September 21st, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Inone, I agree, but until Jason puts points on the board, scrambles to get it done behind this pourous O-line, that by the way is Cables forte, I have got to go with Bruce, look at the numbers, they don’t lie!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Thats why I said let JC start against the Cards. Put him on a short leash. Let him tie his own rope. Split reps with Bruce. You probably only need 1 quarter to see if he is on his game. If he stumbles in comes Bruce!
Sign me up for the start JC with a short leash list..
September 21st, 2010 at 6:22 pm
KKKell, what are you talking about? Nobody scolds me. Especially a female.
And If I want to play with it thats my business. Nobody can stop me.
What did your wife tell you about being a blog fixture 18hrs a day ?
September 21st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
KK,I think you live in Ca,no? Im not sure what youre talkin about Starbucks for,but you best under stand you/we live in the Wild Wild West, no? Think Im on point! ps,yea,youre not goin see 6 shooters in Oakland,its banana clips and any clip,period post482 thats what the fellas roll with,get real
September 21st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Mista, til this O-line is fixed, bench Campbell, he is of no use, he is gun shy, doesn’t believe in his line for a pocket, with good rights, and our O-line is going to destroy QB’s all this year. That is fact, and may take out our RB’s as well, depending on how well other teams read us.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Thats why I said let JC start against the Cards. Put him on a short leash. Let him tie his own rope. Split reps with Bruce. You probably only need 1 quarter to see if he is on his game. If he stumbles in comes Bruce!
Sign me up for the start JC with a short leash list..
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Nah ..you can’t turn back. Gradkowski earned the start – that simple. Let Campbell earn it back.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Who do you know that refers to a woman as “handsome” ?
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# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Fatt Kidd
She’s a handsome woman.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:28 pm
hendu Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
KK,I think you live in Ca,no? Im not sure what youre talkin about Starbucks for,but you best under stand you/we live in the Wild Wild West, no? Think Im on point! ps,yea,youre not goin see 6 shooters in Oakland,its banana clips and any clip,period post482 thats what the fellas roll with,get real
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If someone has a .22, .25, or snub nose .38 you would never know they were packin
September 21st, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Still LMAO!!! A 70yr old woman at that! KKKell, you are a piece of FK’ng work!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Hendu
Sorry, yeah there’s a few groups out here in the Bay Area for open carry rights. They go posing out in Walnut Creek ( a conservative area east of the Bay) in Starbucks, too funny.
I never see those people in Oakland or SF. Just sayin, I think those people….weird.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Need I say, last game is exactly why Mike Mitchell should be in!
Hits matter. Physicality matters! The whole teams feeds off of it.
Once the phyical hits started it lit a spark and that when the Raiders began to physcially dominate the Rams. Everybody started to get in.
This is what the coaches (and maybe Al) is missing when it comes to Mitchell.
Mitchell probably won’t do any worse than Branch in coverage at this point.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Super sike!!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
476&477
If the mood of the team is favoring Bruce. If they have more confidence in Bruce. If Bruce is a better leader. If JC doesn’t have the fire and he has folded his tent Im in agreement with you.
If JC still has the teams confidence & respect you give him another shot even if its 1/2 more quarters. At this stage of the season we can afford him that.
As derelict as Cable is, he has a better view of the situation than we do!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Mista, she could provide Kell with financial security way beyound his wifes means, he would even leave the barbershop for Nancy!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
The Raiders need a more physical presence that would light up the opponent. I think McClain is coming around to see this. He’s actually playing more and more physical each week since preseason. The defense would feed off of it.
Install Mitchell on more snaps, get the crowd amped, get the defense amped b/c they would want some skin too.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
The only people against armed law abiding citizens are punks, thief’s, Democrats, and tyrants.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Brownstains
You obviously have no respect or appreciation of women, so……..I guess that’s one of your problems, why you’re so unhappy.
On the other hand, I love women, and it comes back to me.
Yeah, that’s a handsome 70yr old woman.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Brownstains
You obviously have no respect or appreciation of women, so……..I guess that’s one of your problems, why you’re so unhappy.
On the other hand, I love women, and it comes back to me.
Yeah, that’s a handsome 70yr old woman.
………….he likes women ma thumb and her four daughters……
September 21st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
OUT, had enough, later RAIDERS FANS!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
S Stevie Brown, WR Jonathan Holland were waived.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
476&477
If the mood of the team is favoring Bruce. If they have more confidence in Bruce. If Bruce is a better leader. If JC doesn’t have the fire and he has folded his tent Im in agreement with you.
If JC still has the teams confidence & respect you give him another shot even if its 1/2 more quarters. At this stage of the season we can afford him that.
As derelict as Cable is, he has a better view of the situation than we do!
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I submit that we cannot afford Campbell that priviledge. This team has loss too many games and needs to turn this around to change the mindset of these players. Winning does that. And if so, when Campbell does come in he has a much more confident team around him. A team that knows how to win. We need to change the mindset now.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
If not having a chubby for a 70yr old women on her 20th face lift, eyes the size of ping pong balls, and dumb as dirt qualifies as not appreciating women then I am guilty as charged.
U idiot.
September 21st, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
If not having a chubby for a 70yr old women on her 20th face lift,
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?????? WTf are you talking about, dummy?
September 21st, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I’m just pumped about what DHB “could” have done to the Rams! And pumped about what DMC is doing now! You get these two guys going and fix that line you have one helluva thing to try to stop!
September 21st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
September 21st, 2010 at 6:40 pm
If not having a chubby for a 70yr old women on her 20th face lift,
……………………i am talking about the nancy pelosi who is the speaker of the house,the attractive women with natural beauty, firm ripe breasts a a$$ so nice i would wear it as a hat………..who are you talking about?
September 21st, 2010 at 6:48 pm
474,severeraiderz,see youre point! I believe Bobby Kennedy and MLK were killed by 22 caliber weapons.That said,change of topic, Raiders! This mornin, knbr were already putting the Raiders as a Niner win,cant wait! Much money waiting from niner fans
September 21st, 2010 at 6:53 pm
The first ever UFL sellout
Posted by Mike Florio on September 21, 2010 7:47 PM ET
At a time when more than a few NFL teams are struggling to sell all of the tickets to their games, one of the five UFL teams has managed to fill up the home stadium in the franchise’s debut.
The UFL announced today that the Omaha Nighthawks have sold all seats to Friday night’s game against the Hartford Colonials.
Sure, Rosenblatt Stadium holds only 24,000 — but that will still beat the league’s regular-season attendance record by nearly 10,000.
The Omaha roster includes plenty of players with NFL experience, including Wendell Bryant, Maurice Clarett (OK, Clarett really doesn’t have much NFL experience), Ricardo Colclough, Damion Cook, Devard Darling, Dusty Dvoracek, Robert Ferguson, George Foster, Jeff Garcia, Charles Grant, Ahman Green, Morlon Greenwood, Cate June, Jeb Putzier, Aaron Rouse, Stuart Schweigert, D.J. Shockley, and Gary Stills.
The game will be televised on HDNet at 7:00 p.m. ET. The Colonials are 1-0; Omaha didn’t play in Week One.
September 21st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I see they waived Stevie Brown, S and Johnathan Holland, WR. I thought Stevie Brown was a player. Many were placing him ahead of Hiram Eugene. What happened? If two go off two must be added. Who’s been added?
September 21st, 2010 at 7:42 pm
WE NEED COLT BRENNAN BACK!!!
September 21st, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Get rid of Boller or Jason, and bring back Colt Brennan. Let’s be done with failed players. While Grad is our best bet now, Colt Brennan could be our future. Wake up Raider Nation!
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