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Cable quick hits

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable addressed the media Monday in his weekly press briefing and made some of the following observations:

– Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski was at the facility early and kicking, attempting to rectify whatever went wrong with three misses in a 24-23 loss to the Arizona Cardinals Sunday. Cable said he told Janikowski the Raiders would need him and that he expected him to win a couple of games down the road.

– Red zone offense and play on third down will be heavily scrutinized within the next 48 hours in terms of personnel, execution and play selection Cable said there were plays to be made in close that weren’t being made.

– Cable was generally pleased with the play of the offensive line, noting the handful of times Gradkowski had ample time to throw. He said he has seen improvement and as far as holding the line responsible for the loss “I wouldn’t put that on them at all.” He thought alternating left tackles Mario Henderson and Jared Veldheer were up and down but showing progress.

– Penalties are being committed because of a lack of discipline when players are getting caught up in the competitive moment.

Cable said the delay of game penalty at the 1-yard line by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski came when the quarterback simply ran out of time and Cable wasn’t able to get officials to recognized his request for a time out.

The same thing happened during Week 1 with Jason Campbell, when Cable couldn’t get a time out called when the Raiders had the wrong personnel in the game for the play that was called.

– The insertion of Mike Mitchell into the base defense for a time at strong safety came after Walter McFadden aggravated a hamstring, with Michael Huff forced to play some corner and Tyvon Branch moving to free safety.

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour said during the open locker room session he was at less than 100 percent and was bothered by his hamstring injury, but opted to play through it. That situation, Cable said, will be watched closely this week at practice.

– The workload of running back Michael Bush should increase this week after getting his first game time in more than a month.

Note: I’ll check in later, but am spending most of my day working on an obituary for George Blanda, who died Monday at age 83.

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238 Responses to “Cable quick hits”

  1. aig-raiders Says:

    Debo,

    I read the article and I think I understand it quite well. You just dont get it just like you thought JFB was bashing Bruce but he wasnt. Bruce threw into single coveerage is what he is supposed to do. You want him to throw into double coverage?

    Get over it. You’re still defending any black personel on the Raiders. Jawalrus, JC and even Hue. Just about everyone on here recognized that Hue sucks yesterday except you.

  2. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2nd?

  3. stubblebuzz Says:

    RIP, Mr. Blanda. What a great competitor. I just hope it wasn’t the sight of Seabass missing that 32-yarder that killed him.

  4. olinesux Says:

    That’s exactly why cable should be fired…stupidly supporting benderson I mean Henderson….cant stand that lazy slob

  5. Pretty Rick Says:

    Tom Cable is pleased with the rotating of the left tackles,,said the O-line play was up & down but showing progress,,,hmm,,can you do anything other than just laugh?

  6. Norco Bob Says:

    Tom Cable is mentally retarded,..Im convinced of that,..Im also convinced thats why he was offered the job. Im real.

  7. JB Says:

    George would not have missed that kick. He pulled many a game away from the hands of defeat. I’m old enough to remember George’s play on the Raiders. He was a player. Kicking or passing, he didn’t care. He’d do whatever it took to win the game when given the opportunity. He’s been there and done it.

  8. ArmChair GM Says:

    Somebody please answer the following question objectively…

    How good would Rich Gannon have been if he played behind our current offensive line. No Barrett Robbins, no Lincoln Kennedy, no Steve Wisniewski.

    Thank you.

  9. RaiderDebo Says:

    Aig,

    You just said Bruce was throwing into single coverage. Doesn’t that imply that the right plays were being called? Guys were open. The plays were there. Bruce said it himself. The failure from the 1-yard line is almost entirely on him. With all the breaks we got in this game, the play of McFadden, and the play of the defense, there’s no way it should have come down to a field goal. This man crush you have on Bruce is embarassing. Bruce could throw five picks (which easily could have happened yesterday) and you’d still be blowing him.

  10. Pretty Rick Says:

    Im now officially convinced we’re going 5-11. That’ll make the Patriots happy,,being that they have our 1st rnd pick in the upcoming draft. Cable for Mayor!!!

  11. KoolKell Says:

    How can you answer a hypothetical question, objectively?

  12. olinesux Says:

    Richs career would have been over before it started…

  13. Raider75 Says:

    F’CK Janiahanki

  14. Que Says:

    Hue s fine and will be great for the raiders in the long run. Im a jason campbell fan and grads played well he had alot of attempts and did well 1st half. I notice no one is upset with him over the goal line mess up thats interesting but in the end the raiders will fine long as they can stop the run and keep all qbs healthy somehow.

  15. ArmChair GM Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    How can you answer a hypothetical question, objectively?
    _______________________________________________________

    It’s called hypothesis which is a scientific principle used by scientists all the time. A Theory is a hypothesis that has some factual support behind it.

    Did you go to school?

  16. JB Says:

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Somebody please answer the following question objectively…

    How good would Rich Gannon have been if he played behind our current offensive line. No Barrett Robbins, no Lincoln Kennedy, no Steve Wisniewski.

    Thank you.
    *************************

    He would have done just fine. He was exceptionally mobile, had great pocket presence, had a quick release, was the definition of a leader in the huddle, was an accurate passer and knew everybody elses job better than they did. So why do you ask? He would have been all over & in the faces of the coaches about fixing what he perceived was wrong. He regularly got on his O-line personnel when they screwed up. That held true for RB’s & WR’s too. He was THE QUARTERBACK & everyone knew it.

  17. Pretty Rick Says:

    Raider Debo,,dont pick on Bruce or they’ll come get ya.
    LEEEAAVVEE BRUUCE ALOONNE!!

  18. KoolKell Says:

    This is Hue’s 3rd shot at OC. There were 2 other 1 year unsuccessful stint’s before.

  19. ArmChair GM Says:

    # olinesux Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Richs career would have been over before it started…
    ________________________________________________________

    Agreed. I wanna see how many other people here can recognize this blatantly obvious observation.

  20. winston99 Says:

    Everyone that just cant seem to grasp the concept that YES, THE LOSS WAS ENTIRELY JANIKOWSKI’S FAULT is driving me nuts. But then again, nobody is MAKING ME READ THE POSTS, so it’s my fault. Everyone can point to other times during the game we screwed up, and that’s “really why we lost” or “it shouldn’t come down to the kicker.” But we put the win on a 90+% chance, a 32 yard field goal. He missed, and THAT IS WHY WE LOST. You can nit pick mistakes, bad play calling in any game.But bottom line, we win if our Millions$man can make a chip shot. THAT’S IT! And that is straight up bad luck. And the back of Tom Cable’s neck looks like a pack of hot dogs.

  21. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The insertion of Mike Mitchell into the base defense for a time at strong safety came after Walter McFadden aggravated a hamstring, with Michael Huff forced to play some corner and Tyvon Branch moving to free safety.

    ***

    didn’t some semi pro bloggers suggest we do just that … all offseason?

    does Raider O have Cable’s ear?

    better quit calling him a talking monkey!

  22. St. Jimmy Says:

    – The workload of running back Michael Bush should increase this week after getting his first game time in more than a month.

    —–

    So with the production and tremendous play of McFadden, does Bush now get the start, and considered the number 1 back, or is he back to number 2?

  23. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  24. St. Jimmy Says:

    I just don’t see how McFadden’s carries can or should be reduced, he is running too good.

  25. aig-raiders Says:

    Debo,

    Let’s separate the 2 ok. Throwing into single coverage is not the same thing as a good play called. Not every single one of our receiver will be double teamed on each play. That is impossible. The fact that Bruce throws into coverage shows the right decision was made. So yeah, my man Bruce delivered when had to. I see nothing wrong with putting the team in position to win with a chipshot. That’s called clutch.

    On the other hand, we have one of the worst pass protect Oline in the league and your boy Hue consistently dialed up passes in the redzone. You dont call a screen pass on 3rd down on our final drive. You do that on first and 2nds. On top of that, you dont call for a running play when you have less than 2 mins left and 80 yds to go.

    Weaselbit and JFB both were there and confirmed that we basically ran the same plays over and over again. I think it was Weasel’s wife that even predicted which side we would run the ball to. That is not good playcallling and coaching. But I know you see things different. Like how you think the Raiders didnt give Jawalrus enough time.

  26. aig-raiders Says:

    *single coverage

  27. PassTheCheetos Says:

    Didnt Rich’s career end because of poor oline play? Maybe no one other than me remembers.

  28. ArmChair GM Says:

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Somebody please answer the following question objectively…

    How good would Rich Gannon have been if he played behind our current offensive line. No Barrett Robbins, no Lincoln Kennedy, no Steve Wisniewski.

    Thank you.

    # JB Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    He would have been all over & in the faces of the coaches about fixing what he perceived was wrong. He regularly got on his O-line personnel when they screwed up. That held true for RB’s & WR’s too. He was THE QUARTERBACK & everyone knew it.
    _____________________________________________________

    So Mario Henderson, Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele, Langston Walker, and a lot of these guys would have either been told to shape up or ship out. He would have gotten in the face of whoever he needed to until changes were made.

    So basically he WOULDN’T have been playing behind most of these guys based on their consistently poor level of play for the past few YEARS now.

  29. PassTheCheetos Says:

    He was hurt because of bad pass protection.

  30. aig-raiders Says:

    St. Jimmy Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    I just don’t see how McFadden’s carries can or should be reduced, he is running too good.
    ————

    He’s not. He’s Al’s boy so he will get the start until he gets hurt.

  31. ArmChair GM Says:

    # PassTheCheetos Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Didnt Rich’s career end because of poor oline play? Maybe no one other than me remembers.
    ______________________________________________________

    Excellent! Another good observation.

  32. The Big Banana Says:

    And the back of Tom Cable’s neck looks like a pack of hot dogs.

    ============================================

    LMAO!

  33. aig-raiders Says:

    Hue may be a good motivator and HC but he aint no X’s and O’s genius like Sean Payton or Gruden.

  34. inonewordraider Says:

    How many times did Bruce get sacked against the Cards? How many yards did Mcfadden gain? Our line was fine this game, we are a better team than they are but we beat ourselves

  35. KoolKell Says:

    Somebody please answer the following question objectively…

    How good would Al Davis have been if he didn’t have Ron Wolf?

    30-85

  36. RaiderDebo Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    Debo,

    Let’s separate the 2 ok. Throwing into single coverage is not the same thing as a good play called. Not every single one of our receiver will be double teamed on each play. That is impossible. The fact that Bruce throws into coverage shows the right decision was made. So yeah, my man Bruce delivered when had to. I see nothing wrong with putting the team in position to win with a chipshot. That’s called clutch.

    On the other hand, we have one of the worst pass protect Oline in the league and your boy Hue consistently dialed up passes in the redzone. You dont call a screen pass on 3rd down on our final drive. You do that on first and 2nds. On top of that, you dont call for a running play when you have less than 2 mins left and 80 yds to go.

    Weaselbit and JFB both were there and confirmed that we basically ran the same plays over and over again. I think it was Weasel’s wife that even predicted which side we would run the ball to. That is not good playcallling and coaching. But I know you see things different. Like how you think the Raiders didnt give Jawalrus enough time.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    They got DHB singled up against Toler time and time again. He’s bigger, stronger and faster than that guy. He got open every time except for once when Toler made a good play. It’s the reason we had the ball on the 1-yard-line in the 1st place when DHB forced him to interfere. I see nothing wrong with continually trying to exploit a favorable matchup. We just needed better execution. Gradkowski needed to be sharper and DHB has to start making some tough catches. If they execute right there, everything else is moot. The playcalling was very aggressive yesterday and I like that.

  37. The Big Banana Says:

    This loss is on the special teams! 7 points allowed on the TD return + 9 points in missed FGs. 16 point differential. And that, folks, is how you explain losing the game despite outgaining them 364 yards to 227 and only 1 turnover to their 3. Despite our redzone problems, we were in position to get FGs. Despite the O-line, we gained 364 yards.

  38. Raider75 Says:

    Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski was at the facility early and kicking, attempting to rectify whatever went wrong with three misses in a 24-23 loss to the Arizona Cardinals Sunday.
    ………

    Here’s a clue motherf’cker, how about your fat azz practicing BEFORE you miss 3 kicks and lose a game that could make or break the season.

    Typical Raiders. WAIT UNTIL YOU F’CK UP AND THEN DECIDE TO PRACTICE!

    JESUS H CHRIST! WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS F’N CLOWN CIRCUS SIDE SHOW?

  39. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am
    ****ATTENTION****

    Random Drug Tester ================> Cards 28-24

    =======================================

    The winner and this week’s Blogamus Maximus is Random Drug Tester
    ———————————————
    Thank you…Thank you…Thank you!

    My first, last, and only moves as Blogamus Maximus will be to ban Dichocet, closely monitor Real MaddenRaider, censor KoolKell and of course….

    Cut Janikowski!

  40. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Raider75 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski was at the facility early and kicking, attempting to rectify whatever went wrong with three misses in a 24-23 loss to the Arizona Cardinals Sunday.
    ………

    Here’s a clue motherf’cker, how about your fat azz practicing BEFORE you miss 3 kicks and lose a game that could make or break the season.
    ______________________________________________________

    Right again. But again this goes to accountability. It’s common knowledge that he doesn’t do squat in training camp. He has habitually been given a free pass and it came back to bite us in the butt yesterday.

    That again is on Jano of course, but also on the coaches for allowing mediocrity and complacency to be the standard.

  41. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am
    ****ATTENTION****

    Random Drug Tester ================> Cards 28-24

    =======================================

    The winner and this week’s Blogamus Maximus is Random Drug Tester
    ———————————————
    Thank you…Thank you…Thank you!

    My first, last, and only moves as Blogamus Maximus will be to ban Dichocet, closely monitor Real MaddenRaider, censor KoolKell and of course….

    Cut Janikowski!
    _________________________________________________________

    Hahahahahahaha. Yes Sire!

  42. A.B. Paine III Says:

    You aint squat RDT. I predicted the Cardinals would win 24-23 back in June.

  43. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Typical “bad relationship” type treatment from my Raiders again, just like your worst girl-friend.

    Lose the game, but cover the spread and kill me in the pool.

    But of course, of “All In” for next Sunday.

  44. ctheraiderfan Says:

    As fans we always have to complain about something, the O-line is terrible, Hue’s playcalling is terrible but with all that we were in a position to win the game and should have. We’re 11th in the entire NFL in total offense with a so-call terrible line. We’ve 360+ two games in a row with a terrible offensive coordinator. We are competing now with a real chance to win games and that hasn’t happen in the last 5 years. I love Gruden to death but he was 8-8 his 1st two season and sean peyton was 7-9, 10-6 and 7-9 in his 1st 3….

  45. Random Drug Tester Says:

    *of = i’m

  46. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Jimmy Jon Posted – September 27, 2010 06:12 PM

    A true competitor, a warrior on and off the field, the likes of his kind are sure to be not surpassed by today’s GQ showboats. A man’s man, in the roughest game today, polictial correctness aside, He aspired to greatness, never let down his fans, a true performer. He is sadly missed and loved by the many friends he left behind. A true performer, he is a Raider forever, may God bless his soul!

    A lucky Raider Fan who watched his exciting play, determination to excell, and Commitment To Excellance! Rest In Peace……….

  47. aig-raiders Says:

    I give up Debo. If you thought DHB was open time and again, we saw 2 diff games. The cards were smart in forcing us to beat them with DHB. Let’s just say you have more confidence in him than 90% of the fans and bloggers on here.

    Is DHB black btw? oh yeah he is. Dude, I know and you know you protect black personel on the Raiders. Let’s the skip the BS already.

  48. r8eray Says:

    The cause of George Blandas death was a missed game winning field goal by Janikowski…

    Jano should be arrested and charged for murder in the first degree!!

  49. Random Drug Tester Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    You aint squat RDT. I predicted the Cardinals would win 24-23 back in June.
    —————————–

    link please

  50. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Here is the proof:

    # A.B. Paine III Says:
    June 13, 2010 at 11:51 am

    The Raiders will begin the season 1-3. First four games:
    Titans 29, Raiders 13, Raiders 17, Rams 10, Cardinals 24, Raiders 23, and Texans 35, Raiders 0.
    —————————————

    I am Blogimus Maximus!

  51. RaiderDebo Says:

    ctheraiderfan Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    As fans we always have to complain about something, the O-line is terrible, Hue’s playcalling is terrible but with all that we were in a position to win the game and should have. We’re 11th in the entire NFL in total offense with a so-call terrible line. We’ve 360+ two games in a row with a terrible offensive coordinator. We are competing now with a real chance to win games and that hasn’t happen in the last 5 years. I love Gruden to death but he was 8-8 his 1st two season and sean peyton was 7-9, 10-6 and 7-9 in his 1st 3….
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Thank you! I think some people need to go back and watch the game again. After reading all this stuff about the playcalling and OL play, I couldn’t figure out if I watched the same game.

  52. turner42 Says:

    Yes Jano should’ve made the kick, duh…But how do you not score from the 1? Let’s see, good running game, mobile qb, and they didn’t try a play action roll out once! After you pick up the PI, how about have DHB run a slant off a fade fake? Absolutely put this on the play caller just as much as Jano. Jano has won plenty of games for this team in the past, he deserves some kind of break, put the heat on this new “genius” of an OC, 1-5 in the red zone is beyond pitiful.

  53. RaiderDebo Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    I give up Debo. If you thought DHB was open time and again, we saw 2 diff games. The cards were smart in forcing us to beat them with DHB. Let’s just say you have more confidence in him than 90% of the fans and bloggers on here.

    Is DHB black btw? oh yeah he is. Dude, I know and you know you protect black personel on the Raiders. Let’s the skip the BS already.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2

    All right. 3rd time now you’ve brought race into this, so I’ll bite. Where is the race thing coming from? And please be specific!

  54. Pretty Rick Says:

    Is it too early to talk about coaching candidates? you know the usual suspects,,Jim Harbaugh, Jim Fassel,,Kevin Gilbride,,the super bowl winner’s O-coordinator,,& the wish list: Jon Gruden,,& Bill Cohwer,,because if we lose Sunday,,which we probably will,,the subject will once again become the topic of discussion.

  55. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    I still want to know WTF happened on the delay of game penalty.

    What was the problem ? Headset not working ? Play get in late ?

    I mean, you’re 2nd and goal at the half-yard line, and you can’t get a play called and the ball snapped in time to avoid a delay there ? Are you kidding me ?

    Vegas, you’re right…part of the blame, maybe even most of the blame goes to Bruce there for not calling the time out. A more experienced QB sees the play clock at 7 seconds, realizes his line isn’t set, knows a delay penalty is almost unavoidable at that point, turns to the official takes the time out, walks to the sideline, and we likely score on the next play and wind up winning the game.

    But WTF was Cable doing ? When the Raids break huddle late and it’s fairly obvious a delay penalty is coming, Cable has got to get a time out called.

    You bet Bruce should have called the time out on his own, but when he didn’t, Cable had a good 7 seconds to get an official’s attention and call it himself. That’s his job, to manage the clock and coach. He has to see the play is late 10 seconds before the clock expires. If his QB isn’t heads-up enough to call the TO, then he damned well better do it himself.

    It was obvious watching that play unfold on TV that the Raids were gonna get flagged for delay. It was easily avoidable.

    Cable’s got a lot of explaining to do.

  56. RaiderDebo Says:

    Aig,

    You may not have confindence in DHB, but he definitely got the Cards’ attention. On the money drive, they put DRC on him and DHB kicked his ass.

  57. ArmChair GM Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Here is the proof:

    # A.B. Paine III Says:
    June 13, 2010 at 11:51 am

    The Raiders will begin the season 1-3. First four games:
    Titans 29, Raiders 13, Raiders 17, Rams 10, Cardinals 24, Raiders 23, and Texans 35, Raiders 0.
    ___________________________________________________

    Cant argue with that. You should have said it again when Banana set up this whole contest every week.

  58. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Oh yeah?

    Well I said:

    # Random Drug Tester says:
    June 12, 2010 at 11:51 am

    The Raiders will begin the season 1-2, First 3 games:

    Titans 38 – Raiders 13, Raiders 16 – Rams 14, and Cardinals 24 – Raiders 23 (with a gut-wrenching choke on a chip-shot FG)
    —————————-
    so….NO YOU ARE NOT!!!

  59. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Are there really still a few cornholes here defending JaMoron and failing to see that Gradkowski is better than JaTussin AND JaCampbell ?

  60. MistaBr0wn Says:

    The mindset of a loser.

    “Cable said he told Janikowski the Raiders would need him and that he expected him to win a couple of games down the road”

  61. mistic1 Says:

    MM34 finally got some run. He sucked in special teams coverage but played well in the strong spot. stevei brown looked good yesterday as well. With the declining play of branch, and the up and down play of huff maybe we will see more of these two youngsters moving forward..

    Maclain seems to play better in the second half. he looked good yesterday stuffing the backs behind the line and in the hole. Outside of groves taking the wrong angle on wells the lbs played well.

    D-line was good too. Unfortunatley how ever scott is not holding the edge against the run, seems to be striclty a pass rush specialist.

  62. MistaBr0wn Says:

    Amazing how this happens week to week! Top notch coaching staff!
    _____

    Cable said the delay of game penalty at the 1-yard line by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski came when the quarterback simply ran out of time and Cable wasn’t able to get officials to recognized his request for a time out.

    The same thing happened during Week 1 with Jason Campbell, when Cable couldn’t get a time out called when the Raiders had the wrong personnel in the game for the play that was called.

  63. MistaBr0wn Says:

    And it was you that was heaping praise on him when he got hired.

    Weren’t you also calling for a conservative game plan against AZ?

    Genius!
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    This is Hue’s 3rd shot at OC. There were 2 other 1 year unsuccessful stint’s before.

  64. olinesux Says:

    No man dumb benderson false started on third and 2 led to maser points that is just one example…go back and watch how many times he blocked no one…he ISA left tackle that don’t look left!!!!

  65. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Death of a Legend…

    This was posted on his birthday on the 17th and updated today.

    Gone but not forgotten…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/legends_of_the_silver__black

    RIP Blanda!

  66. mistic1 Says:

    Awesome to see DHB and Dmac take over the game. DHb struggled in the first half. The mental maturity of the this kid is way beyond last year. to be able to fight back and make the money catch on 4 and 12 was a thing of beauty. I enjoyed seeing him make the catch in the middle of the feild as well. he still is trying to get physically tough enough to play with th men in the leauge, and needs to get better over the middle in traffic, and when the ball is in the air deep. But again he is trending upward and looks to be a legit number one in the making.

    Macafdden showed the physicall toughness, after falling on his tailbone. Looked like it slowed him a bit, but he kept grinding, and the touchdown drive in the second quarter he was amazing. Raider youth on the rise.

  67. Nnamdi21 Says:

    olinesux Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    No man dumb benderson false started on third and 2 led to maser points that is just one example…go back and watch how many times he blocked no one…he ISA left tackle that don’t look left!!!!

    =================

    Don’t know why Branes isn’t competing for reps at LT. Veldheer’s absolutely horrible filling for Mario.

    Then I saw Barnes at RT and he’s bad too. Maybe he’d be better at his natural LT, but I kinda doubt it.

    When did Al forget great Raider Olines make great Raider teams?!

    Oh yeah, thats right, when Cable convinced him the ZBS was the el cheapon way to go.

    We need TDs not yards chewed up between the 20s.

  68. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Still not impressed with DHB as an “average” let alone “above average” NFL receiver.

    If he is running down the field for a pass and I see a defender on the TV screen…I don’t feel like he has much of a chance to catch it.

  69. MistaBr0wn Says:

    Maybe continuity is over rated.

    Fire the meathead!

  70. Nnamdi21 Says:

    67. Word.

    It was good to see Bey get involved. He was targeted 11 times, caught 3, but it wasn’t like he dropped 8. Much much better than last year.

    Still needs to high point the ball and extend his hands but much better and looks like he is trending upwards.

    DMac is much better this year too especially in pass protection.

    Plays with aggression too. YES!

  71. mistic1 Says:

    Grads was terrible inthis game. He is a turnover waiting to happen. Looking at his last 6 quarters, i have counted at least 6 of his passess bouncing off of defenders. Eventually he will get burned. If The dropped ints areconverted we are not talking about the kicking game today at all.

  72. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    We just lost one of the Greatest Raiders to ever play the game, and you Idiots are worring about averages? How about 2 minutes of respect for Mr. Blanda?

  73. Pretty Rick Says:

    Mistic1,,dont talk bad about Bruce or they’ll get ya.
    LEEAAVEE BRUUCE ALOONE!!!!!

  74. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    “Cable said the delay of game penalty at the 1-yard line by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski came when the quarterback simply ran out of time and Cable wasn’t able to get officials to recognized his request for a time out.”

    Simply ran out of time ?

    WTF does that mean ?

    We know he ran out of time, dumbass. That’s why the Raids were penalized, wound up taking 3 instead of getting 6, and ultimately cost them the game.

    The question is why did he run out of time.

    What was the problem ?

    You just don’t ’simply’ run out of time. There’s some sort of phuck up involved, and it’s the responsibility of the HC to identify the problem and FIX IT, not to make a brainless remark that he ’simply’ ran out of time.

    Grads shouldn’t get a pass for not calling the time out, but Cable should be worrying about his job after that delay of game debacle yesterday instead of making moronic statements about ’simply’ running out of time.

    Cable is a simpleton.

  75. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Thank You, Nation, he was deep in our hearts, God rest his soul!

  76. A.B. Paine III Says:

    At least JaWalrus had a good excuse for sucking.

  77. MistaBr0wn Says:

    Bruce got away with murder yesterday. Against a good Def like B-More or NY he might get picked 4/5 times game. He is accurate with the ball but also he is careless as hell!

    _____

    Mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Grads was terrible inthis game. He is a turnover waiting to happen. Looking at his last 6 quarters, i have counted at least 6 of his passess bouncing off of defenders. Eventually he will get burned. If The dropped ints areconverted we are not talking about the kicking game today at all.

  78. mistic1 Says:

    Cooper carlisle is a liabilty. B campbell wa suited but cant get on the field. i would hate to see this year roll by with out letting b campbell get a feel. We alreday know what carlisle is, we also know this is not a playoff team. Start the youth movement now.

  79. davidon Says:

    Ditch JaniCHOKEski and sign Waters

  80. Pretty Rick Says:

    STAY THE COURSE!

  81. mikedlopes Says:

    Kyle Boller and Bruce Campbell and a John Gruden billboard imo..

  82. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Grads was terrible inthis game. He is a turnover waiting to happen. Looking at his last 6 quarters, i have counted at least 6 of his passess bouncing off of defenders. Eventually he will get burned. If The dropped ints areconverted we are not talking about the kicking game today at all.

    ===================================

    Grads on a ‘terrible’ day is still better than JaMoron or JaCampbell on their best day.

  83. suxkinda80s Says:

    THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO

    # JB Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Somebody please answer the following question objectively…

    How good would Rich Gannon have been if he played behind our current offensive line. No Barrett Robbins, no Lincoln Kennedy, no Steve Wisniewski.

    Thank you.
    *************************

    He would have done just fine. He was exceptionally mobile, had great pocket presence, had a quick release, was the definition of a leader in the huddle, was an accurate passer and knew everybody elses job better than they did. So why do you ask? He would have been all over & in the faces of the coaches about fixing what he perceived was wrong. He regularly got on his O-line personnel when they screwed up. That held true for RB’s & WR’s too. He was THE QUARTERBACK & everyone knew it.

    WELL i THINK HE DID PLAY WITHOUT ROBBENS YOU FRICKING MORON. HE ABOUT GOT HIS NECK BROKE FROM DERRICK BROOKS AND THEN HAD HIS LABIUM TORN BY THE DUDE FROM THE CHIEFS, AND THAT WAS IT FOR GANNON.

  84. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Raider99, Who missed the passes that bounced off of them????? No one is paying attention, got it!

  85. mistic1 Says:

    Cable coaching himself right out of a job. Arizona did the best they could to give the raiders that game. Poor o-line, and qb play lost that game ofr us yesterday. Of course our kicker missed the clincher in the end, but we know jano is streaky. WE have seem him have one of these mini slumps before. Im sure he will be get hot again, but the o-line cant be fixd, and grads cant improve, for hr is already at his ceiling.

  86. Thec07 Says:

    Keep the laughs coming guys…

  87. Thec07 Says:

    Jano should be booting touchbacks all day with his leg… A team should never be able to return a kickoff…

  88. mistic1 Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    Mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Grads was terrible inthis game. He is a turnover waiting to happen. Looking at his last 6 quarters, i have counted at least 6 of his passess bouncing off of defenders. Eventually he will get burned. If The dropped ints areconverted we are not talking about the kicking game today at all.

    ===================================

    Grads on a ‘terrible’ day is still better than JaMoron or JaCampbell on their best day.

    =======================================================

    Im afraid this argument doesnt stand up to the facts.

    Grads career 307 of 579 for 3241 yds.

  89. The Big Banana Says:

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Oh yeah?

    Well I said:

    # Random Drug Tester says:
    June 12, 2010 at 11:51 am

    The Raiders will begin the season 1-2, First 3 games:

    Titans 38 – Raiders 13, Raiders 16 – Rams 14, and Cardinals 24 – Raiders 23 (with a gut-wrenching choke on a chip-shot FG)
    —————————-
    so….NO YOU ARE NOT!!!

    ============================================

    LOL!

  90. Pretty Rick Says:

    I know there’s alot of hate for Campbell,,I think he’s a decent Qb, nothing spectacular about him or anything, but if I remember correctly, wasnt it Campbell that beat us silly last year when he was with the Redskins? If Im wrong I have no problem owning up to it, but the same guy everyone’s bashing is the same dude who made us look like a bunch of punks last year.

  91. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Thec, like your take on this, we should have some beers one day at the game……Are we just the only ones thinking this! Lol

  92. DKnight007 Says:

    MistaBr0wn Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    The mindset of a loser.

    “Cable said he told Janikowski the Raiders would need him and that he expected him to win a couple of games down the road”

    ^^^^^^^
    Let’s home not!

    Score TD’s and stop playing to lose by settling for FG’s Cable and Jackson!

    Dammit!

  93. The Big Banana Says:

    # Pretty Rick Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    I know there’s alot of hate for Campbell,,I think he’s a decent Qb, nothing spectacular about him or anything, but if I remember correctly, wasnt it Campbell that beat us silly last year when he was with the Redskins? If Im wrong I have no problem owning up to it, but the same guy everyone’s bashing is the same dude who made us look like a bunch of punks last year.

    =============================================

    Even the Browns made us look like a bunch of punks last year.

  94. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    I screamed SP’s more than a week ago, Cable doesn.t visit this blog!

  95. Thec07 Says:

    860, what up bro…Yeah its cool not to kick the dog after the raiders lose a heart breaker….

  96. Thec07 Says:

    I called the SP’s before, and during presea….
    I had a problem with the coin toss…We won, and yet deferred, I question that logic…but hey thats why we have the cable guy at coach right….

  97. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    It bites thou, Bro, lol, we really need to regroup after that fiasco!

  98. Thec07 Says:

    Anyway back to the cave….Still the NATION…..

  99. raidertay Says:

    Missed in the Seabass hoopla. I thought Seymore played a BEAST of a game. Especially going up against an ALL Pro lineman in Faneca. His play also translated to McLain coming freely on a lot of tackles. I like our front 7.

  100. Ryan Says:

    Call me an optimist, but I think Seabass goes on a tear. I’m thinking he will hit the next 25 kicks. Just a hunch.

  101. Thec07 Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    It bites thou, Bro, lol, we really need to regroup after that fiasco!

    +++++++++++++++++

    Lastly, the team will play better, would not be shocked if we pull an upset playing at home. season is far from over still have 14 left, not going to jump off the bridge, or blow sh!t up…

  102. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Still talking about Campbell? wow.
    Fire Janilowski!

  103. Thec07 Says:

    anyway back to the shadows….

    Only nation that is worth….Raider NATION…

  104. mistic1 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    Mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Grads was terrible inthis game. He is a turnover waiting to happen. Looking at his last 6 quarters, i have counted at least 6 of his passess bouncing off of defenders. Eventually he will get burned. If The dropped ints areconverted we are not talking about the kicking game today at all.

    ===================================

    Grads on a ‘terrible’ day is still better than JaMoron or JaCampbell on their best day.

    =======================================================

    Im afraid this argument doesnt stand up to the facts.

    Grads career 307 of 579 for 3241 yds. 17 td 18 ints

    Campbell 1032 of 1689 for 11127 yds. 56 td 40 ints.

  105. raidertay Says:

    Random Drug Tester Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Still not impressed with DHB as an “average” let alone “above average” NFL receiver.

    If he is running down the field for a pass and I see a defender on the TV screen…I don’t feel like he has much of a chance to catch it.
    ========================

    Agreed, but you have to admit he looks a helluva a lot better then last year. A couple more Summers of progression like that and we will realy have somethin special.

    We hit the lotto wit Louis Murphy. the guy is simpl a gamer. He makes that draft not hurt as much.

  106. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Gradkowski is 14pts per game worth better than Campbell.

  107. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Cable, in my eyes, is in his deathrows right now, a new Coach, unfortunately not Chucky, not Hue, but a Real Coach, as I see it, is coming forth. AD is so pizzed, his eyes are watering. It won’t help us this year, but AD isn’t dying without a new SB ring, print it!

  108. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Fix the O line save the Raiders.

    Al needs to remember that…

  109. raidertay Says:

    Whats up wit Chaz??? Wasnt that Dude suppose to be back by Game 4.

  110. Nnamdi21 Says:

    105. Stats are misleading sometimes.

    Grads did what neither of the other two could.

    Move the ball with some consistency and score points.

  111. waklaboo Says:

    Won’t even warm up on a few kicks before trying the FG. Scholarship complaceny paid off.

  112. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Janikowski is a POS! gimme Jeff Jeager!

  113. raidertay Says:

    Grad had a good game. Almost INTs dont count. Thats like saying we almost won yest.

  114. Nnamdi21 Says:

    raidertay Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    Whats up wit Chaz??? Wasnt that Dude suppose to be back by Game 4

    =======================

    I’m starting to think he’ll never be back

  115. Raiderjambo Says:

    RIP George Blanda- “A TRULY GREAT RAIDER”.
    Sorry coaching staff and players, but no more excuses. You’re paid very well to perform as a professional(?) football player/coach on any given game day. If we scrubs performed half as bad at our trade/profession as you guys do, we’d be out on our a**es. So please, enough is enough, let’s for once and for all, get the job done, without any more excuses or bs.

  116. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Janikoswki= Cole Ford’s lost twin brother!

  117. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Nnam, what have I preached for the last 3 years? O-Line. Anyone get it yet?

  118. mistic1 Says:

    DHb being able to draw flags on defenders is another sign that he is developing quickly. The defense is afraid of dhb and ( gulp) play making ability! This was key in the last drive yesterday. Im pleased with his progress. He reminds me of roy williams, but i think his ceiling is higher. he dmac are prime examples of how when guys come out early they need to mature both mentally and physically before they are ready for prime tiime. Dmac now has an nfl body, and DHB is still growing into his man body, he is going to be a huge weapon.

  119. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Jano took some of the date rape drug he uses to romance up his dates before the game!

  120. DKnight007 Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    Fix the O line save the Raiders.

    Al needs to remember that…

    ^^^^^^^
    Hire Jim Harbaugh or Jon Gruden and fix the O-Line!

    That will save the Raiders.

  121. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Jano needs to drop 80 lbs of Jano!

  122. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Bring in a minimum wage kicker: That will also save the Raiders!

  123. ArmChair GM Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Im afraid this argument doesnt stand up to the facts.

    Grads career 307 of 579 for 3241 yds. 17 td 18 ints

    Campbell 1032 of 1689 for 11127 yds. 56 td 40 ints.
    _____________________________________________________

    This is irrelevant. Lets talk about points scored.

    THIS SEASON through the same amount of time(6 quarters)….

    J Campbell-16 points

    Bruuuuuuuce- 36 points

    Print those statistics!

  124. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    The sky isn’t fallin just yet, lets see what we are about and how we resond to it. I’ve been here too long, an we are the RAIDERS!

  125. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    They call me Bruce! is set at QB for the next 2 years. If you want to see Campbell play wait for him at the nearest Arena.

  126. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Gotta tip my hat to Nnamdi. Whatever they are paying him he’s worth it. What he did to Fitz yesterday was a frikin masterpiece!…Also, Richard Seymore earned his huge salary yesterday (can’t say the same for Tomy Kelly).

  127. DKnight007 Says:

    It’s sad that Janos choke job probably caused one of the greatest clutch kickers in Blanda to pass after watching that cluster bleep of a game yesterday!

    Sheesh

    RIP George Blanda

  128. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Tom Cable can’t fix the O-line and can´t call a time out…why does he still have any type of responsability during the game? His only job should be to answer questions from the press like a 5 year old kid.

  129. Carl Weathers Says:

    winston99 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    Everyone that just cant seem to grasp the concept that YES, THE LOSS WAS ENTIRELY JANIKOWSKI’S FAULT is driving me nuts. But then again, nobody is MAKING ME READ THE POSTS, so it’s my fault. Everyone can point to other times during the game we screwed up, and that’s “really why we lost” or “it shouldn’t come down to the kicker.” But we put the win on a 90+% chance, a 32 yard field goal. He missed, and THAT IS WHY WE LOST. You can nit pick mistakes, bad play calling in any game.But bottom line, we win if our Millions$man can make a chip shot. THAT’S IT! And that is straight up bad luck. And the back of Tom Cable’s neck looks like a pack of hot dogs.
    ******************
    Agreed. Also, that last line is freakin hilarious!!

  130. Carl Weathers Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    Gotta tip my hat to Nnamdi. Whatever they are paying him he’s worth it. What he did to Fitz yesterday was a frikin masterpiece!…Also, Richard Seymore earned his huge salary yesterday (can’t say the same for Tomy Kelly).
    *******************
    Absolutely.

  131. mistic1 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    # mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Im afraid this argument doesnt stand up to the facts.

    Grads career 307 of 579 for 3241 yds. 17 td 18 ints

    Campbell 1032 of 1689 for 11127 yds. 56 td 40 ints.
    _____________________________________________________

    This is irrelevant. Lets talk about points scored.

    THIS SEASON through the same amount of time(6 quarters)….

    J Campbell-16 points

    Bruuuuuuuce- 36 points

    Print those statistics!

    =======================================================
    My post was in response to a claim that grads is better than campbell, the numbers dont bear that out. Hue Jackson has already made it clear campbell is not quit ready to take the reigns, and grads is further along in the offense at this time. how ever once jc does get comfortable in his new surroundings grads must return to the bench.

    yetsreday you saw fluttrting cans of cream corn lofted ever so precariously towrd the defenders. Also the mechanics of his throwing motion along with his physical stature are problematic.

    Grads is a god number two, but he doesnt have the minerals to be number one.

  132. kidseven Says:

    Sebastian Gradkowski is a great kicker. Get over it.

  133. Kirk Says:

    #129

    LOL!

  134. Carl Weathers Says:

    correction, abso-muthafuggin-lutely!

  135. Kirk Says:

    No, the loss wasn’t entirely Jano’s fault.

    Al Davis overrode the coaching staff when they wanted to waive Mike Mitchell, and Mike Mitchell missed the tackle that led to a 102 yard touchdown return.

    The loss is Al Davis’ fault.

  136. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Raiders 101, pay attention.

    Raiders will offload the bus and be the most biggest and dynamic team in the stadium.

    Raiders will dominate all phases of the game, and will humbly leave your stadium in tatters and your team destroyed.

    Raiders will have the Biggest and most destroying O-Line in the league. The O-Line has always carried a Raider Super Bowl Team.

    OOP’S, We don’t have an O-Line for 7 Years, But we spent Trillions for special team players, sound familer?

  137. mistic1 Says:

    This raider team is about where they should be. People must have thought benching campbell would put us in the playoffs. Now you see grads is not a playoff qb, he was less than ordinary against two weak opponents. Cable is is not a play off caoch, and our o-line is not play off calibur. We will win maybe 6 or 7 games at the most. This is why you must go to the youth movement now.

  138. Carl Weathers Says:

    – Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski was at the facility early and kicking, attempting to rectify whatever went wrong with three misses
    **************************
    And? Was he missing or was he hitting them? Yesterday he looked like a kicker that usually finds himself in the unemployment line on Monday.

  139. ArmChair GM Says:

    Mistic,

    Looking at Drew Brees through the first 3 games of the season, how would Drew Brees would perform behind our O-line as currently constructed?

    I’ll wait.

  140. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Man, sit Jano and let the other Pollack kick the FGs! it worked wonders at the QB position!

  141. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Arm, At least he didn’t get killed!

  142. howieislong Says:

    one win can turn the season around.houstons pass defense is like swiss cheese right now.

  143. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Why does Stanfford Routt look like he has no clue where to stand on every third & long? he’s playing better, though

  144. Plunketthead Says:

    Time to put together three wins in a row
    This team was built to kick asss
    Texas will be sad on Sunday, along with the Raider haters

  145. mistic1 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    Mistic,

    Looking at Drew Brees through the first 3 games of the season, how would Drew Brees would perform behind our O-line as currently constructed?

    I’ll wait.

    =======================================================

    Im not sure i understand what your getting at withthis question. Are you saying grads struggled because of the o-line, and no qb will do very well behind it?

    I agree with that the o-line needs an over haul. However i think once campbell has a better grasp of this offense and his new weapons, he should be reinserted. Because even though the o-line is garbage, campbell has more talent than grads, is more accurate than grads, protects the ballbetter, and has experience over grads. bad o -line or not the best players need to be on the field once they know the offense.

    Grads is better coming in releif when teams don have a chance to game plan. i would be surprised if grads lasted much more than a game or two.

  146. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Time to put together three wins in a row
    This team was built to kick asss
    …………………………..
    and obviously not to kick FGs.

  147. howieislong Says:

    campbell is a robot.this team needs grads fire.

  148. mistic1 Says:

    Cables smoke and mirors pull a gradowski out my hat, diversion has run its course. cable his o-line, and grads were exposed for the shams they are.

  149. VT Raider Says:

    How many times will Cable say there are some things they need to “clean up a bit”, this week?

  150. mistic1 Says:

    howieislong Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
    campbell is a robot.this team needs grads fire.

    ======================================================= Grads fire is a given, but he just isnt a good enough player to take this team any where. too many inaccurate passes and boneheaded decisions. This is why he hasnt been able to keep a starting job in this league.

  151. howieislong Says:

    exposed?!ha ha.we’ve gained more yards and are moving the ball better in a game and a half than we have in what 5 years!

  152. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    offense had 364 total yards. why the hell are we talking about the QB? that dammed 20% (1/5) redzone efficiency killed us!

  153. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    One thing I noted this week, as bad as I have come down on this Dreaded O-Line, the team that has always copied us, envied us, tried to evolved to us, and brought them to a SB victory, is going down the same happy road as us. Welcome Giants, to 7 years of Raiderdom!

  154. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    man, samsung satele must be hollow, looks pretty big but gets shoved around like he weighed 180. grow more hair or something dude!

  155. howieislong Says:

    raider d is third best in league.(nfl .com)

  156. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Mistic. Cable doesn’t hav a clue what this team can do, he thinks he is a CEO, won’t be long, imho!

  157. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Louis Murphy, ranks 13th in receiving yds…wow!

  158. ArmChair GM Says:

    Mistic I’m not sure what games you’re watching fam, because Campbell is not accurate. He was missing Murphy across the middle left and right when he started.

    It was his pick that led to him being benched.

    Grads has two picks: 1) after the d-lineman tipped it into the air, 2) after the ball hit DHB in the hands and he bobbled it up.

    Grads picks are not because of over or under throwing receivers.

    You gotta keep it one hunnet!

  159. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Darren McFadden, ranks 3rd in rushing yds

  160. howieislong Says:

    13th best receiver,3rd best runner,offense finally has a pulse.

  161. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Cable ranks 1st in pimp hand rating

  162. howieislong Says:

    one thing to miss 3 fgs but man up and deal with it dont slither out the back door without talking.

  163. mistic1 Says:

    Campbell moved the ball agaisnt the rams, and was killed for not getting in the enzone! Grads has gotten us in the enzone a couple of times, however his penchant for crucial mistakes is just under the surface. He has beneifited from lots of dropps by the defense. How ever this ternd will not last. Also the arm strength, and accuracy issues are there. he couldnt get the ball to dhb on the fade to the back of the enzone, the ball actually hit the db in the ass!!! Once his luck runs out this will more than cancel out any positve by the seat of your pants helter skelter stuff he does. he is a poor mans jeff garcia / doug flutie, no where near as talented.

  164. ArmChair GM Says:

    I’m sorry man…Campbell is not accurate.

  165. howieislong Says:

    not accurate or aware.(see first down slide)

  166. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    “grads cant improve, for hr is already at his ceiling.”

    Let me get this straight…the Jason Campbell supporter says grads can’t improve, he’s already at his ceiling.

    WRONG.

    Jason Campbell is the one that can’t improve. Started for 3 years and reached his ceiling. All he’s ever done is put up a decent completion %. Means very little because his teams didn’t score points and lost. He was given ample opportunity as a starter and failed miserably. Washington couldn’t dump him quick enough. They were ecstatic to get a 4th for him.

    I was happy when the Raids got JaCampbell. Not bcz I thought Campbell was any good, but bcz it meant JaMoron was OUT. I was willing to give Campbell the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best.

    But you know what ?

    Washington was right to give up on Campbell. He isn’t any good and he never will be. Looks the part, tall and throws a nice spiral, but that’s about it. Can’t improvise, lacks accuracy on intermediate and long passes, lackadaisical, can’t read defenses, and a gutless wuss as evidenced by his slide in Tenn.

    He’s reached his ceiling and unfortunately for him it’s not even equal to Gradkowski’s floor.

    Gradkowski on the other hand, has had limited chances to show what he can do as a starter and what his ceiling can be with some more experience. In the chances he’s been given he’s shown flashes. Grads is already clearly better than Campbell. It’s obvious the Raid offense is alot better with Grads at the helm instead of JaCampbell. That’s why it only took 6 quarters for him to unseat JC as the starter.

    JaCampbell is a confirmed turd. Grads will prove to be a better than average NFL QB.

  167. mistic1 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
    Mistic I’m not sure what games you’re watching fam, because Campbell is not accurate. He was missing Murphy across the middle left and right when he started.

    It was his pick that led to him being benched.

    Grads has two picks: 1) after the d-lineman tipped it into the air, 2) after the ball hit DHB in the hands and he bobbled it up.

    Grads picks are not because of over or under throwing receivers.

    You gotta keep it one hunnet!

    =======================================================

    grads had a pass bounce off a dfenders hands in the endzone second week in a row, when he over threw miller who was double covered. Thats a double whammy, inaccurate pass,and a poor decision!

    The pass to Dhb was a terrible throw. DHB had to stop his feet and jump back across his own body to lay out becuase the pass was way off target!! You cant tell if he even got a hand on the ball. The pass was grads attempt tpo come back to the middle of the field late, another bone headed mistake.

  168. Nnamdi21 Says:

    D solid but Subs hurt…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/film_room

  169. Nnamdi21 Says:

    168. some of that on Grads has to be that he didn’t play with the wides much in fact, MOST of our wides were sporadic thru camp missing lots of time with dings and other such.

    I remember that Vitto reporter guy mentioning “How can they develop a rythym between QB and WR with them out so much?”

    We have our answer…they can’t

  170. mistic1 Says:

    RAIDERMAN99 Says
    Gradkowski on the other hand, has had limited chances to show what he can do as a starter and what his ceiling can be with some more experience. In the chances he’s been given he’s shown flashes. Grads is already clearly better than Campbell. It’s obvious the Raid offense is alot better with Grads at the helm instead of JaCampbell. That’s why it only took 6 quarters for him to unseat JC as the starter.

    JaCampbell is a confirmed turd. Grads will prove to be a better than average NFL QB.

    =======================================================

    I dont see anything in grads career history that suggest that he will be any better than he is now, not very good. even if you dont like campbell you have to admit that grads is not playing very well, he certainly isnt really seperating himself from campbell. The coaches say campbell is not comfortable, ok ill buy that. but dont sell me on grads, his year so far is like all the other years in his career, mediocre. Again once these passes get picked off, and they will, all grads fans will see what the rest of the nfl including al davis already know, grads is a stunt double, a back ground singer, he is not cut out for the lead role.

  171. Carl Weathers Says:

    Janikowski may have cost us the win at the end but a kicker should not be attempting 6 FG’s.
    Put it in for 6 ffs!

  172. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Yeah, Grads is not pretty, but he gets it done where it counts on the score board.

    Cable’s stupid for pinning it on Grads. He did what he was supposed to and got the Raiders in position to score 33 points yesterday.

  173. mistic1 Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    168. some of that on Grads has to be that he didn’t play with the wides much in fact, MOST of our wides were sporadic thru camp missing lots of time with dings and other such.

    I remember that Vitto reporter guy mentioning “How can they develop a rythym between QB and WR with them out so much?”

    We have our answer…they can’t

    ======================================================

    even more eveidence that grads cant do it! he had the same guys last year! I would say the the improved DHB, and Dmac are really helping to extend grads career at this point!

  174. KoolKell Says:

    Passer rating of 72 yesterday.

  175. olinesux Says:

    you mean”check down” campbell… or i will slide two yards before the first down campbell or i should be the starter and now i will put campbell or no fire campbell? i think they are the same guy….

  176. mistic1 Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
    Yeah, Grads is not pretty, but he gets it done where it counts on the score board.

    Cable’s stupid for pinning it on Grads. He did what he was supposed to and got the Raiders in position to score 33 points yesterday.

    =======================================================

    Again cable setting up the qb as the sacrificial lamb! Cables o-line is just as responsible as grads for that stinker yesterday!

    Grads set us up on the final drive, however it looked to me like a gave us as many chances to lose the game as he gave us to win. WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THROUGH SIX QUARTERS OF FOOTBALL GRADS HAS HAD AT LEAST 6 OF HIS PASSES BOUNCING OFF DEFENDERS. lOOK AT HIS CAREER STATS HE THROWS JUST AS MNAY PICKS AS TD, THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! wHERE IS THE EVEIDNCE THAT THE TIGER WILL CHANG HIS STRIPES AND AVOID THE COSTLY TURN OVERS?

  177. howieislong Says:

    grads has earned a chance at houston and sds atrocious pass d.

  178. mistic1 Says:

    Grads should start becuase jackson says campbell doesnt have the system down yet. But in another week or so move over bacon here comes something meatier!

  179. priesttj Says:

    Gradkowski is skating on very thin ice, he has to clean up his game or he’ll be back on the bench in a hurry. He takes WAY too many chances with the football and he’s skittish in the redzone. He just is a much better player coming out of the bullpin. That way teams can’t gameplan him.

    I agree whileheartedly that Campbell was very unsure of himself and looked confused at times. But in the next few weeks if they give him reps and he sits and watches Grads attack defenses I see Campbell and Boller being better options for the starting spot in the near future.

  180. Carl Weathers Says:

    Grads has to be the QB becuse he can escape the ever pursuing defenders.

    Also regarding int’s, he takes chances and he makes plays. What would you rather have? a Favre type QB or a Dilfer?

  181. Carl Weathers Says:

    predictions for the MNF game?

    I says Bears 31-27

  182. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj I agree 100% with #180, of course I’ve already said all that so stop piggy backin on my post. Have a couple drinks and speak from your heart so I can have a good laugh!

  183. KoolKell Says:

    I knew Al Davis wouldn’t approve a “Ride the Back” gameplan, as Hue Jackson said he likes to do.

  184. olinesux Says:

    henderson sux so does cable end of story…not qb not k nobodybut henderson…

  185. priesttj Says:

    What bothers me the most is I’ve seen you guy’s murder Russell and others for a lot less than what I saw from Grads yesterday. I’m not down on him nor do I believe he lost the game BUT he certainly didn’t win it. And he had ample opportunities to do so.

    We should’ve won 33 to 17 or we should’ve lost 33 to 17 if they catch his picks. He simple has to get better and if he doesn’t I want him to sit down…………..period

  186. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KKKell your just upset you predicted a conservative run first game plan and it didnt happen.

    Sour grapes old fool…

  187. mistic1 Says:

    Carl Weathers Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    Grads has to be the QB becuse he can escape the ever pursuing defenders.

    Also regarding int’s, he takes chances and he makes plays. What would you rather have? a Favre type QB or a Dilfer?

    =======================================================
    Dilfer and farve have the same number of rings.

    Grads is flashy, campbell is steady ( when he knows the offense). i would rather have steady and safe matched with our young defense, and young skill players. game manegement is just as important as making plays.

    Example kordell stewart was an extermely dangerous play maker, but also turned the ball over alot in between those amazing plays. the end result was not good eneough. Grads doesnt have kordells play making ability but he is just as prone to the big mistake! slow and staedy is better when the team is not good enough to overcome mistakes from the qb. plus the qb must protect the ball, that is one of his main jobs, grads is not the answer.

  188. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj, maybe Grads just needs a wife & kid to get his game dialed in…

    Thats what you recommend for JaMeatloaf, right?

  189. howieislong Says:

    your right put campbell back in so he can manage the game and our whopping 13 pts a game.

  190. Carl Weathers Says:

    Mistic, he may not be the answer but he’s the best option on the current roster.

  191. howieislong Says:

    campbell can manage the losses as they pile up.

  192. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    RIP, George.

    A true legend, from a time when MEN played football. Thoughts and prayers to his family, and loved ones.

  193. priesttj Says:

    Is he really the best option or is he the best option to YOU? because what I saw yesterday he’s NOT the best option if he plays like that. Way too many miscues fortunately he didn’t pay for them but some of that stuff was buttnecked ugly………..period

  194. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj is right on point piggy backin my post from yesterday.

    I knew you were a genius tj!

  195. mistic1 Says:

    howieislong Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    campbell can manage the losses as they pile up.

    =======================================================
    Grads is a stop gap until campbell is up to speed. lets face it, so many people fell in love with grads, and now cant adnit that he has played poorly in his appereance this year! based on yesterday Im not sure how big the gap is between he and campbell at this time. Im sure campbell will get another shot this year.

    looking at it with out bias grads has not distinguished himself, and his insertion into the line up has not produced the just add water microwavable instant offense that most people on here thought it would.

    By the way this is why I love nfl .com and direct tv i had a chance to see this guys act in tampa and cleveland, and already knew who he was. most peopel here have not seen enough of jc or grads to really compare, they are posting from a place of emotion and lack of knowledge. Apples to apples look at career stats, these two have the same amount of years in the leage, and the numbers say campbell is a better qb, even if at the moment grads has a better feel for the offense. Once campbell clicks, he needs to be in becuase he is simply a better talent.

    Grads career 307 of 579 for 3241 yds. 17 td 18 ints

    Campbell 1032 of 1689 for 11127 yds. 56 td 40 ints.

    Grads has never had a completion percentage over 54%…yuck

    Campbell has been as high as 64%

  196. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Cable needs to start running wind sprints after practice, so that the next time he needs to call a T.O. he can RUN down to where the refs are, instead of waddling and not getting their attention….

  197. olinesux Says:

    64% checking down to backs for three yard gains…

  198. priesttj Says:

    Everybody is slamming Jano well if you look at that game Grads had more opportunities to win that game than Jano had and he came up just as empty. He stunk it up in the redzone and put the ball at risk way too many times. Now i’;m witholding judgement because I’m giving him then benefit of the doubt. A bad game and maybe pushing too hard to keep the job and just needs to settle down. But I don’t want to see a repeat of that crap com,e Sunday. He needs to play smart and lead us to the best of his ability. Houston is beatable but we cannot beat them if he’s playing like he did vs the Cards.

  199. mistic1 Says:

    olinesux Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
    64% checking down to backs for three yard gains…

    =======================================================
    Grads could do better if he checked down or threw the ball away rather than trying to force the ball.

    Example forcing the ball to miller in the flat all picked off, when he should have thrown the ball at his feet to avoid the turn over.

  200. Carl Weathers Says:

    Grads is the best option for our O-line.

  201. olinesux Says:

    three checkdowns and you punt…nah id rather him throw to recievers down the field and not overthrow them like campbell….

  202. KoolKell Says:

    Running the ball is the best option for our O-line.

    Should have let Dmac/Bush carry us.

  203. 24 Says:

    Its a sad day in the Raider Nation with the loss of George Blanda. The old Raider greats are starting to leave us. RIP Blanda.

  204. priesttj Says:

    Mystic1

    They know as well as we do, their hating on him because their guy is stubbing his toe. Point is I wnat the best guy NOT MY GUY. In here they fall in love with certain players and when they come up stinky they run and hide.

    I think Grads is very valuable to the organization just not as a longterm answer as a starter. Doesn’t mean he can’t win games for us. But you have to know what role to cast players in. As a coach you have to look at this objectively not favoring anyone except the best guy for the job………..period

  205. Mistabr0wn Says:

    A balanced attacking offense is what we need.

    Keep throwing darts eventually you will hit something..
    _____

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Running the ball is the best option for our O-line.

    Should have let Dmac/Bush carry us.

  206. mistic1 Says:

    olinesux Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    three checkdowns and you punt…nah id rather him throw to recievers down the field and not overthrow them like campbell….

    =======================================================

    Grads over threw miller over the middle in the endzone, into double coverage, should have been picked. he overthrew Dhb in the back of the endzone, dhb had smoked the corner. he also under threw dhb on a corner fade and hit the db in the ass!!!! Should have benn picked. Grads is scrappy but far to eratic to be counted on as anything ohter than a temporary relief qb.

  207. Carl Weathers Says:

    speaking of QB’s, kiffens boy trent edwards was released today.

  208. 24 Says:

    If you don’t have a balanced offense, you’re also keeping DHB and Murphy from developing, which they obviously are starting to do. They are getting better with each game. In time, everything should click much better. The pieces are progressing and everything should be better by mid season. I’m just hoping for an average team at least. Lets have an 8-8 season at least.

  209. olinesux Says:

    there is no other option campbell wont even throw it into the endzone…

  210. Norco Bob Says:

    Im on board to go back to Campbell sunday,..the seasons over, might as well lose big instead of nail biters. Im going to the game sunday,..in jail by halftime.

  211. Norco Bob Says:

    Im done with both Kowskis on the Raiders,..bench em both.

  212. mistic1 Says:

    I love how people say davis cant draft but i see play makers all over the field.Ford looked very good as kick returner, lets get him on the field on offense ahead of jlh. Dmac DHB, MM34 (except for the special team channel), Houston, macclaine, shaugnessy, ware, all looked good!!! veldeheer was decent how about getting b campbell in the mix! we do know Al wants his draft picks to play, cable is apinting himself into a corner o-line stinks and you cant get b campbell on the field.

  213. KoolKell Says:

    24 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    If you don’t have a balanced offense, you’re also keeping DHB and Murphy from developing, which they obviously are starting to do.
    ———————————–
    Developing players or winning Sunday?

    They sacrificed Campbell last week to win games, now.

    Arizona came into the game giving up 155 yds per game on the ground. Win the damn game and develop players in the off-season.

  214. Carl Weathers Says:

    #210 LMAO!

  215. Norco Bob Says:

    Kell, Im sending you a months supply of Saki.

  216. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic

    Are you smoking crack? Let’s see here. Your boy wonder JC got us 16 points in 6 quarters. Grad got us 36 in 6 qtrs. If I recall correctly, Grad did get us down to a chipshot to win the game no? WTF has JC shown you? I wonder why you forgot to bring up JC’s winloss record with a 7th ranked D with the Skins. JC is the black Alex Smith. How many offensive coordinators between both of them? Around 15+.

  217. Norco Bob Says:

    Niners been kickin themselves for 6 years now with havin to see Aaron Rodgers…not that I care….actually I think its great.

  218. mistic1 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    24 Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    If you don’t have a balanced offense, you’re also keeping DHB and Murphy from developing, which they obviously are starting to do.
    ———————————–
    Developing players or winning Sunday?

    They sacrificed Campbell last week to win games, now.

    Arizona came into the game giving up 155 yds per game on the ground. Win the damn game and develop players in the off-season.

    =======================================================

    i would agree if this was a team that could actually make the play offs, but they are not good enough. Its time develop the youth now so we can build for next year. Adress the o-line in the draft, and let b campbell and veldheer hit the ground running.

  219. 24 Says:

    KoolKell – I’m not saying don’t run it more if its working for you and I’m not saying pass for the sake of developing…I’m merely pointing out the fact that our balance will workout in the end. DHB and Murphy are awakening and that will benefit us when we need them.

  220. Norco Bob Says:

    Rodgers is the best qb in NFL…manning and brady included.

  221. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Donald Driver has been playing football since the Nixon admin.

  222. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Cutler will be a Raider some day

  223. mistic1 Says:

    @ AIg

    JC is the black Alex Smith.
    ……………………………………………….

    Jc struggled and wasnt/ isnt ready, per hue jack. grads is ready just not talented. When campbell is ready his talent will show that he is better than grads. Again the career stats tell you that. Numbers dont lie. campbell also didnt have the weapons that this team has in place. campbell with time in the systaem and a better o-line next year still may prove you wrong, but grads ha already maxed out! Sorry its the truth.

  224. olinesux Says:

    rodgers is badazz

  225. KoolKell Says:

    Only 16 games in a NFL schedule. Every game is important. Win ugly until you can win pretty. Win, Just, Win.

  226. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Luvie Smith is 1 notch above Art Shell.

  227. olinesux Says:

    nah campbell is a neverwas…

  228. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    A QB’s most important stat is his win/loss record. I dare you to tell me his win/loss record. The only reason JC and Alex Smith are still in the league is because they were first round draft picks. You know it as well as I do.

    I will wait patiently on this blog for your posting of JC’s career win/loss record. That is if you dare post it.

  229. priesttj Says:

    Mystic1

    AIG is obsessed with the color of the QB’s skin rather than his talent. He is anti black and anything that looks dark at QB gives him the willies. So I’m just saying he has issues that go way beyond football.

  230. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Good to see Jano was hard at work today correcting his issues after taking the entire off-season and pre-season off. Cant wait for him to wobble out to the hash marks Sunday.

    Commitment to Excellence!

  231. Kirk Says:

    When asked if the Sun was going to come up tomorrow, Cable said, “Well that depends on how things work out with respect to the time space continuum.”

  232. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KKKell, in week 2 we won and you didnt show your sour mug for 3 days…

    On that note I hope we pull one out Sunday so you make yourself scarce until mid week.

  233. KoolKell Says:

    Arizona came into the game giving up 155 yds per game on the ground.

    Why not play to our strengths, and their weakness’s and win the damned game?

    Teams pounded the heck out of us last year didn’t they????

  234. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ…who do you want at QB sunday?…by the way,..call Gary manana,..you can thank me man I got ya back in.

  235. Mistabr0wn Says:

    tj, what was your pet name for Russell, Black Moses? Just checking..

    No reply necessary!
    _______

    priesttj Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Mystic1

    AIG is obsessed with the color of the QB’s skin rather than his talent.

  236. aig-raiders Says:

    Priest,

    BS. Actually I am pointing out that you and Debo are homers. You guys defend black QB’s regardless of their actions and performance. You and Debo thought that the Raiders were not patient enough with Jawalrus. Only a homer would think that and ignore all of Jawalrus’ personal issues.

    I’m sure JC is a great guy but he cannot lead men and play QB in the NFL. That is a proven fact.

  237. beach Says:

    Only somebody with way too much money would pay a field goal kicker $4 mil per season. And this is what we get! Unfreakin believable!

  238. hendu Says:

    It seems norco Bub doesnt like truck drivers,he should remember that many truck drivers haul what Bub likes,Norcos and Stronger,my fellow Raider fan! Teamsters just got us a new 5 year deal,nothing out of pocket, pay as you go.Like 10 bucks per visit,and for you BOB,5 bucks per prescription

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