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Health of Raiders’ DTs a concern

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

There’s still three full days of recovery to go, but one of the Raiders biggest concerns heading in to Sunday’s game against the Houston Texans will be if they’ll be healthy enough to keep running back Arian Foster and their cutback running system under control.

Although John Henderson suited up and went out to practice Wednesday, he spent the end of the warm-up and drill portion of practice being worked on by trainers and was officially listed as not having practiced.

Henderson didn’t practice at all last week, and foot injuries become more of an issue when supporting some 335-plus pounds.

Also not practicing was defensive tackle Richard Seymour, which was no surprise given his admission Monday that he was affected by his hamstring pull against Arizona and was lacking explosion and power.

Seymour talked openly of trying to determine the best course of action _ weighing the help he can give against the risk of making it worse and having a condition which could limit him for the entire season.

It appears the best-case scenario would be to have Henderson and Seymour play at less than 100 percent against a team which desperately needs defensive tackles to both hold their ground and break through a zone blocking chain which will look to get Foster free on the backside.

Or perhaps one or the other doesn’t play, meaning more work for Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant and Jay Alford.

At worst, both Henderson and Seymour are unavailable or can’t finish the game against an offensive system which tends to be at its best late in the game with the lead when the defense is tiring.

More news, notes and quotes following coach Tom Cable’s post-practice briefing:

– Cable has coached zone blocking teams since working at Atlanta with Alex Gibbs, and talked about the best way for a defense to deal with it.

“They’re able to distort it. If they let it get moving, think of pulling on one end of the rope, and it all moves in the same direction,’’ Cable said. “If we allow that to happen it gets going on you, and they’ve done that a few times this year already. What you have to do is disrupt or distort that rope, make it uneven, if you will, and if you can do that, you take away those seams and those run lanes.’’

– A long injury list which Cable said for the most part was not overly serious.

Those who did not practice were WR Chaz Schilens (knee), LG Robert Gallery (hamstring), LB Travis Goethel (lower back), Henderson (foot), Seymour (hamstring), S Hiram Eugene (hamstring), CB Chris Johnson (ankle), CB Walter McFadden (hamstring) and WR Louis Murphy (clavicle).

Players listed as limited were G Cooper Carlisle (undisclosed), RG Langston Walker (elbow), CB Jeremy Ware (undisclosed) and TE Zach Miller (undisclosed).

Cable said Schilens “is making good progress. I’d say in the last five or six days, it’s been very positive.’’

– Alex Joseph, a first-year linebacker out of Temple, was added to the practice squad. He takes the place of Stevie Brown, who was promoted to the 53-man roster for the second time in two weeks prior to the Arizona game and may actually stay there awhile this time.

– Cable doesn’t seem overly concerned about a Raiders red zone defense which has given up touchdowns seven times in eight possessions.

Arizona did very little offensively against the Raiders but was 2-for-2 in close, making it look easy both times.

“We’ve been very productive and for three years we’ve been one of the very best red-zone defenses in football,’’ Cable said.“The other day, it was the simple fact of looking up a receiver in zone at a linebacker spot. Just a very fundamental thing down there.’’

– Cable was predictably (and wisely) tight-lipped when asked if more duty for Michael Bush would mean more use of Darren McFadden as a receiver.

McFadden has 73 rushes and 10 receptions through three games, with Bush playing only a small role in Week 3.

“You never know,’’ Cable said.

– Houston wide receiver Andre Johnson said by conference call he expected to play against the Raiders (he has a high ankle sprain) and is aware Nnamdi Asomugha shadowed and shut down Larry Fitzgerald against Arizona.

“He’s a great player, arguably the best cornerback in the game,’’ Johnson said. “He doesn’t really have many balls thrown his way. It’s not shocking to see that.’’

Johnson said Asomugha hasn’t shadowed him in the past.

When the Raiders beat the Texas 27-16 in Week 16, Johnson came in with 103 receptions for 1,408 yards and didn’t catch a pass until well into the second half.

Johnson got some coverage from Asomugha that day, and quite a bit from Chris Johnson, who missed last week’s game with an ankle injury and is now the nickel back when healthy instead of the starter.

– Former Raiders showing up elsewhere _ the Carolina Panthers signed guard-center Chris Morris. The Seattle Seahawks added Slade Norris to the practice squad.

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  • djohnnyg

    There arent many good kickers in the nfl, jano becuase of his long leg, and kick off play is one of the best.
    ————–
    One of the best??? He is NOT clutch. Tell me, how many game winners has this loser produced? Don’t give me the 63 yarder he made. That kick was made under NO PRESSURE. No one expected him to make that kick, therefore NO PRESSURE. Pressure and clutch is making a kick with no time left on the clock. The kick Sunday wa from 32 yards and it may very well have ruined the season. I hardly call that an asset. He has effectively demoralized the team. Now they no doubt feel that no matter what they do, this clown is gonna blow it when it really matters. No, they are not outright saying that to the media, but you can bet you’ll see it in their performance as the season moves forward.

    There is a HUGE difference in 1-2 and 2-1. Now, Oakland has to beat a Houston team which is considered one of the better ones in the league, THEN they have to play SD who they NEVER beat and the list goes on. If we lose to those teams we’re 1-4 instead of a more manageable 2-3. THAT IS HUGE going into Mile High.

    If the goal was 8-8 JanoChokeSki seriously hurt that.

    Remind me of all of Chokeski’s clutch kicks please. There are none. How about that key divisional match up against Shanahan a couple yrs. back? He hits the first one, then hits the post on the next. Thanks Jano. Then this past week.

    This team cannot afford to just have players blow games like that in the delicate state they are in. These aren’t the Steelers who can overcome losing to sub-par opponet. His failure is even more magnified.

    This POS will miss again if he ever gets the chance. Unless it’s from 20 yds. or under, I guarantee it.

    But we’ll just keep sending him love and kisses like the coach does as we watch another season go down the crapper.

  • aig-raiders

    Wow we lead the league in redzone opportunities. Man, I can’t believe it. It has been so awful the last 7 years and now we are moving the ball prett good now. Can’t wait until midseason when they really get in synch and work out the kinks.

  • RaiderRockstar

    They addressed O Line in later rounds with a two projects with lots of upside.

    ***

    Cable screwed that up, didn’t he?

    Veldheer should have been LT only since the day he was drafted. Campbell RT only

    we made a pair of tackles learn center and guard instead …

    now the holdover Tackles (Henderson & Walker) stink and the rookies aren’t ready!

  • mistic1

    @ Raider75
    not many good kickers in the NFL?
    According to FG%, there are 25 that are better than Janikowski!
    ========================================================= There arent very many good kickers i the nfl. This is why you have such high turn over, not only year to year, but also in season. Havent you notice that now a lot of teams have a short range guy, and a lng rang and kick off guy? Well sebass gives us both.

    No argument with the fact he has stated off shakey this year. He has historically been streaky, but when he is on he is very good.

    Yes kickers in the hall of fame, see jan stenerude is in the hof! He has a much lower career fg % than sebass at 66%!

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:04 am
    According to FG%, there are 25 that are better than Janikowski!

    Isn’t Jano like 90% inside of 40 for his career? And has made more 50+ yarders than any active kicker?

    I gotta check the stats, but the guy is better than he’s played so far and I think he got his kick in the @%% last Sunday.
    ===========================================
    But the guy can kick from 60+ when it doesn’t matter!
    LOL

  • The Big Banana

    Just think….

    In week 2, the Chiefs should have lost to the Browns. The dirty freak, Shaun Smith, grabbed Macks nuts which aggravated him into committing a personal foul, pushing the Browns out of FG range which would have won the game.

    In week 3, Jano missed a gimme FG to win the game against the Cardinals.

    2 plays away from a tie for 1st in the West.

    It’s still early but, ah, what could have been…..

  • LA to TheBay

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
    They addressed O Line in later rounds with a two projects with lots of upside.

    ***

    Cable screwed that up, didn’t he?

    Veldheer should have been LT only since the day he was drafted. Campbell RT only

    we made a pair of tackles learn center and guard instead …

    now the holdover Tackles (Henderson & Walker) stink and the rookies aren’t ready!
    ——————————————

    Yes, this was dumb.

  • PurpleDrank81

    If you watch game tape on Campbell he looks like guard will fit him alil better. He started playin him at right guard because he wanted him to get more snaps its not a giant transition from playin right guard to right tackle but I still like him at guard more just because he can pull alot easier and was known as a run blocking player coming out of the draft… Veldheer should have never stepped in on the center spot and I think Cable knows that now just doesnt want to admit it. He didnt spend a bunch of time playing center so it’s not like he wasnt playing at LT too…The kid will be a starter and switching him in and out is a very dangerous move

  • The Big Banana

    SF’s Anthony Davis:

    “He tried to feel me,” Davis said. “That’s weird, right?”

    LOL! Yes, Anthony, it’s weird.

  • RaiderRockstar

    LOL @ Anthony Davis!

  • LA to TheBay

    I gotta run, Nation.

    Semi-Pros, keep doin’ your thing (you know who you are).

    For those of you on the Doom and Gloom tip,

    Please… do us all a favor. Find another team.

    Week 3 and they wanna say the season’s over. Lol. Glad YOU don’t play for the team.

  • mistic1

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:04 am
    According to FG%, there are 25 that are better than Janikowski!

    Isn’t Jano like 90% inside of 40 for his career? And has made more 50+ yarders than any active kicker?

    I gotta check the stats, but the guy is better than he’s played so far and I think he got his kick in the @%% last Sunday.
    ===========================================
    But the guy can kick from 60+ when it doesn’t matter!
    LOL
    =======================================================

    That post would make sense except for the fact that the entire team hasnt mattered over the last seven years. You have to be in meaningful games to make meaningful kicks! in 6 of his 10 years he has been over 75%, in the nfl when your kicker is over 70% he is considered a good kicker. also when your kicker is your main scoring threat as jano has been on seveal occasions, it skews the stats.

  • The Big Banana

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/28/video-
    emerges-of-shaun-smith-grabbing-anthony-daviss-junk/

  • CJ Legend 34

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:16 am
    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
    They addressed O Line in later rounds with a two projects with lots of upside.

    ***

    Cable screwed that up, didn’t he?

    Veldheer should have been LT only since the day he was drafted. Campbell RT only

    we made a pair of tackles learn center and guard instead …

    now the holdover Tackles (Henderson & Walker) stink and the rookies aren’t ready!
    ——————————————

    Yes, this was dumb.

    —————————————————-

    All I know is Henderson sucks! He can’t move his face. They might as well started him at Left tackle. WHy they tried him at center is beyonfd me.

  • LA to TheBay

    Oh, I’ll have some stats for the numbers people later.

    Be good, Nation.

  • mistic1

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
    They addressed O Line in later rounds with a two projects with lots of upside.

    ***

    Cable screwed that up, didn’t he?

    Veldheer should have been LT only since the day he was drafted. Campbell RT only

    we made a pair of tackles learn center and guard instead …

    now the holdover Tackles (Henderson & Walker) stink and the rookies aren’t ready!
    ——————————————

    Yes, this was dumb.
    ======================================================= One of the main reasons cable will be fired…along with his win loss record.

  • CJ Legend 34

    LA to TheBay thanks for making me see the light all at one time I am pissed.

    FIRE CABLE!!!!!!!

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Janikowski was drafted by a Raider team that had been 8-8 in the previous two seasons, and the justification for drafting him was that he would win the close games that were within 3. He has never really been put to the test because we were only competitive for his first 3 seasons, where he only had one clutch field goal I can think of, at KC, 2000 season, his rookie year. Since 2003 we haven’t even been competitive so it’s moot anyway. We could have had a girl kicking for us and it wouldn’t have made an iota of difference, oh, except one win over the Jets in that time. Wow. And that’s assuming the girl wouldn’t have made the same field goal. Jano has never truly been put to the test. So here he is in an opportunity to close out a game that puts as at 2-1 for the first time in years, and he muffs it. And it’s a 30 yard chip shot. HE IS A BUST! And anyone who doesn’t think so is just a chromosome or two away from being retarded…you know, like Jano.

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Some kickers are great when the kick is not for the win. Have to see if Seabass can become clutch. He has to prove it.

  • PurpleDrank81

    Fire Cable and Hire Who??? Do you really think that Hue Jackson is going to be a super upgrade? If we didnt promote Jackson who’s going to take his job? Does any1 want it?

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    CABLE, JACKSON,

    RUN THE TEAM YOUR WAY!

    BENCH AL’S SCHOLARSHIPS!

    START YOUR PLAYERS!

    AL’S GOING TO FIRE YOU GUYS NO MATTER WHAT!

    YOU’VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE!!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    how can you hate Al Davis and love Ron Wolf, John Madden, Jon Gruden or Bruce Gradkowski?

    who do you think signed thier checks?

  • aig-raiders
  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Let’s not fight w/ea other. We’re all Raider fans. We all want the same thing, victory on Sunday.

    …………..

    That’s not true. There are a lot of people here rooting for Gradkowski to fail. They’d much rather see Gradkowski lose than the Raiders win. Just read the comments. You’ll know who they are. And don’t be fooled by their, “Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be rooting for him”. Read everything outside of that. They slip up every time.

  • mistic1

    HE IS A BUST! And anyone who doesn’t think so is just a chromosome or two away from being retarded…you know, like Jano.
    ========================================================
    Some kickers are great when the kick is not for the win. Have to see if Seabass can become clutch. He has to prove it.
    =============================================================== @ The Real GradkowskiRaider , This is the pot calling the kettle black, you named yourself after a career back up with more ints than td’s…..and were retards?!?!?

    @ exlaraiderseasonticketholder , this is my point we dont know if he is clutch because the team hasnt been relevant.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, you going to be rooting for Houston when Grad is in the lineup?

  • RaiderRockstar

    PD81: Bruce Campbell played LT at Maryland

    who else besides an O-Line Saboteur would make him a RG?

    one of his biggest assets at the combine was his long arms, speed and athletic ability …

    right guard is a mauler on most teams. Langston Walker would be ideal there!

  • RaiderRockstar

    HE IS A BUST! And anyone who doesn’t think so is just a chromosome or two away from being retarded…you know, like Jano.

    ***

    bwahahahaha!

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic…3rd down, a Houston D lineman blows right by our o line, sacks gradkowski. Are you smiling on the inside? We know the answer.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Mistic, you going to be rooting for Houston when Grad is in the lineup?
    ===============================================================
    Funny bra, of course not. I bleed silver & black, marc wilson, jay shroeder, jeff george, marijaunivich, rusty hilger, donald hollas, rick mirer, jafatass, I rooted for them all. Even though i knew they sucked.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    1 second to play, on the 1 inch line. Raiders down by 4, Gradkowski under center. What are you rooting for, Mistic? Come on, be honest. You’re anonymous. Nobody knows who you really are. You would be sick to your stomach for the rest of the night if we punched it in and won, and Gradkowski was a hero, wouldn’t you?

  • Ryan

    Raiders 38
    Texans 17

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    # mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Funny bra, of course not. I bleed silver & black, marc wilson, jay shroeder, jeff george, marijaunivich, rusty hilger, donald hollas, rick mirer, jafatass, I rooted for them all. Even though i knew they sucked.

    …………

    You forgot to add Jason Campbell to that list.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Mistic…3rd down, a Houston D lineman blows right by our o line, sacks gradkowski. Are you smiling on the inside? We know the answer.
    =============================================================
    The view from gradkowski’s nut sack must be obscuring your ability read my post.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, you hate Gradkowski. It’s obvious. It is IMPOSSIBLE to root for a team when they have a player who you hate. Especially a QB. You’re rooting for Houston.

  • aig-raiders

    Mistic,

    still waiting on JC’s career record. You gonna answer some day?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # djohnnyg Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    There arent many good kickers in the nfl, jano becuase of his long leg, and kick off play is one of the best.
    ————–
    One of the best??? He is NOT clutch. Tell me, how many game winners has this loser produced? Don’t give me the 63 yarder he made. That kick was made under NO PRESSURE. No one expected him to make that kick, therefore NO PRESSURE. Pressure and clutch is making a kick with no time left on the clock. The kick Sunday wa from 32 yards and it may very well have ruined the season. I hardly call that an asset. He has effectively demoralized the team. Now they no doubt feel that no matter what they do, this clown is gonna blow it when it really matters. No, they are not outright saying that to the media, but you can bet you’ll see it in their performance as the season moves forward.

    There is a HUGE difference in 1-2 and 2-1. Now, Oakland has to beat a Houston team which is considered one of the better ones in the league, THEN they have to play SD who they NEVER beat and the list goes on. If we lose to those teams we’re 1-4 instead of a more manageable 2-3. THAT IS HUGE going into Mile High.

    If the goal was 8-8 JanoChokeSki seriously hurt that.

    Remind me of all of Chokeski’s clutch kicks please. There are none. How about that key divisional match up against Shanahan a couple yrs. back? He hits the first one, then hits the post on the next. Thanks Jano. Then this past week.

    This team cannot afford to just have players blow games like that in the delicate state they are in. These aren’t the Steelers who can overcome losing to sub-par opponet. His failure is even more magnified.

    This POS will miss again if he ever gets the chance. Unless it’s from 20 yds. or under, I guarantee it.

    But we’ll just keep sending him love and kisses like the coach does as we watch another season go down the crapper.
    ………..

    great post!

    Mistic, you claim that in the NFL if your kicker is over 70% they are considered a good kicker.

    Once again, brother, THAT IS YOUR OPINION. You have no way of proving or backing up that claim. I have never, NEVER, heard one analyst, coach, or broadcaster say this and I have been watching football for over 30 years.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Mistic, you hate Gradkowski. It’s obvious. It is IMPOSSIBLE to root for a team when they have a player who you hate. Especially a QB. You’re rooting for Houston.
    ===============================================================
    Seriously bra stop it,this has been my team my whole entire life, I go back with this team since before they left me high and dry and went to l.a.. Silver & black til I die. Just because your a closet niner fan doesnt mean we are all like you.

  • StayinBlack

    I might be late to the discussion but having both Henderson and Seymour out really hurts us on D.

  • PurpleDrank81

    Arian Foster will have under 100 yards

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Arian Foster will have under 100 yards
    …..

    I have no choice but to start this dude this week, but I’ll take a Raiders win over Fantasy Football any day.

  • mistic1

    Once again, brother, THAT IS YOUR OPINION. You have no way of proving or backing up that claim. I have never, NEVER, heard one analyst, coach, or broadcaster say this and I have been watching football for over 30 years.
    ===============================================================
    some of the greatest kickers in history have fg% under 70%, try these on for size, stenerude hall of famer 66%, our beloved blanda r.i.p 52%, mark mosely 65%.

    Kicking is a roll of the dice, finding guys that can be over 70% for their career isnt that easy, otherwise you would see lots of kickers stay with one team for long periods of time.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, are you related to Jason Campbell? Why do you want him to start when you know Gradkowski is better than him? Do you know Campbell personally?

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:30 am
    And don’t be fooled by their, “Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be rooting for him”. Read everything outside of that. They slip up every time.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Didn’t u perfect that “don’t get me wrong”?

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    SammyTheBull, what previous name did you post under?

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Mistic, are you related to Jason Campbell? Why do you want him to start when you know Gradkowski is better than him? Do you know Campbell personally?
    =============================================================== What are you trying to do? I havnt brought up campbell at all today before this post. If hue jack says campbell is not ready Im rolling with hue jack! This however does not negate the fact that your lover garbkowski stinks out loud.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, you don’t think Campbell is better than Gradkowski? I thought that was your whole problem with Gradkowski, is that he was starting over Campbell, who you think is better. Wasn’t that your argument yesterday, or the day before that?

  • raiderzmaverick

    Score Texans 34, Raiders 20.

    Don’t know why I’m such a pessamist except watching the Titans game when we had to try to handle a running threat and a throwing threat we couldn’t manage it.

    Maybe that was just because we were worried about the QB sneaking each play so were playing too cautious…..

    We’ll see I guess. We did play a lot better “D” the last 2 weeks (albiet against teams that aren’t exactly offensive powerhouses).

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    wOOT! The purses are out for a lunchtime swing I see. Don’t throw any shoulders out, and becareful of pulling a hammy. Something in the water I hear.

    -.=

  • Kirk

    Grads is a good quarterback.

    Any quarterback who can score points with this offensive line and these receivers is a fking genius.